May 1, 2024 • 51 mins
Skateboarding's not just about the tricks; it's about the stories, the culture, and the people that turn the wheels. That's exactly what we capture in our latest chat with Zach Peacock as we meander through the legacies of legends like Spike Jonze, who seamlessly stitched skateboarding into the fabric of film and photography. Our conversation swerves from the spectacle of extreme sports, funded by the likes of Red Bull, to the intimate connections within the motorcycle community, proving that behind every kickflip and custom bike, there's a tale waiting to be told.
Remember those days when a freshly unwrapped skate video could keep you up at night with anticipation? We take a trip down memory lane, reliving those moments while also appreciating the evolution from sponsor-me tapes to the pure joy of witnessing raw talent. As we reflect on the special encounters with skate icons, Zach and I also dissect the current skate scene, drawing parallels with economic challenges that resonate across various industries.
Yet, life's not all about perfect landings and smooth rides. We dive into the deeper end, addressing the sobering topics of crisis and suicide among friends, underscoring the significance of community and support during the darkest times. Our heartfelt exchange reminds us to embrace life with audacity, to reach out, and hold on to the shared bonds that can sometimes be the only lifeline. Join us for an episode that melds the adrenaline of extreme sports with the compassion of real human connection, and everything in between.
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Zach Batista (00:07):
Hello, hello.
This is Zach Batista from B2ZPodcast, and last episode we
left off at photography andvideography of skateboarding
horses and pole dancers, as wellas acknowledging the film
talents of skateboarding legendSpike Jones.
(00:30):
And now, without further ado,what you've all been waiting for
the continuation of theSkateboarders Odyssey with Zach
Peacock.
Brandon May (00:43):
It was fully flared set up.
No, that was just on the street.
Zach Peacock (00:47):
The intro was like that was purposeful.
They set that up and did allthat.
Brandon May (00:53):
But it's just a skate video.
It's just run and gun, getafter it.
What about the skate videoAlmost or yeah Right?
Is it yeah Right?
Zach Peacock (01:02):
Are you talking about Cheese and Crackers on the
mini ramp?
Nah, they're doing all of thesecrazy things and also so girl
skateboards, it's under the, theumbrella of crail tap.
Crail tap is like royal trucks,girl and chocolate skateboards,
four-star clothing, leavingsomebody out, whatever.
All those, those littleentities that they have under
that umbrella.
Their real type was spike,spike j, and spike Jones is a
(01:27):
skateboarder and filmskateboarding with his friends
and grew up riding BMX andskateboards and he just happened
to be skating with Eric Costinand Mike Carroll and Rick Howard
.
That was his group of people.
So as he got better at filmingand then, like somebody saw his,
like a video that he hadproduced, and then they were
like, oh shit, will you film ourmusic video?
So then, like the beastie boys,whoever runs the beastie boys
(01:49):
hit him up.
So he did all the beastie boysmusic videos.
So he has, like this wealth ofmusic video filming because of
skateboarding.
He got him into music videosand then he started filming like
he did her and where the wildthings are spike spike.
He's done so many amazing, realbig budget movies that dude's a
fucking skateboarder yeah and sothese skits that are in all
(02:10):
those girl videos that you'retalking about, like the
invisible boards and like thelike, all that stuff, like there
, there is these skits that arevery cinematic and very, those
are all spike.
Every bit of is spike, and sohe's been like a heavy part of
all that, like introducingcinema into skateboarding.
Brandon May (02:29):
How do you feel about the overproduction side of
things in extreme sports LikeRed Bull?
Zach Peacock (02:35):
I love dude.
My favorite Instagram is RedBull's Instagram.
Like, I strive towards thatkind of shit.
Like, yeah, they're gettingpermit, they're pulling permits
and yeah, they're like it.
A lot of it is like they'vetook the time to do control,
it's controlled situations.
But there is still people likethey have the money and they are
putting the money back intothis shit.
Anytime.
(02:55):
Somebody's putting the moneyback, like red bull and monster
and all that.
I don't drink energy drinks atall, but the fact that they have
the money to put into this shitand they like, like I don't.
There's other companies thatdon't give a shit about
skateboarding or extreme sportsor whatever, but these companies
are funding these situationsand it's like they could not
very well be doing any of thisshit.
(03:16):
They don't have to do any ofthis stuff, but they know that
this is what people want to see.
Yes, human beings being pushedto the limits and finding the
limits.
Brandon May (03:25):
Right.
Skateboarding is in a roughspot right now.
Zach Peacock (03:28):
I think it's just everything Like the industry,
like tattooing, is slow.
My buddy Steve like themotorcycle industry is slow.
I think he said he's down$100,000 from last year.
Holy shit.
Like everybody is taking a hitright now.
But like everybody is taking ahit right now, but it's just.
The state of the world is wildright now you're going to born
free yeah, I go to born everyyear who are you going out there
(03:48):
with?
with steve okay, yeah, becauseI'm fun, because I'm with steve,
like I the last three yearsthat I've been with him or so,
like he's been documenting fourspeed kings at born free and I
get to go and enjoy it, likethat's the nice thing about
knowing what I need to shootwhat are the perks of that job,
of what like working with uh?
I wasn't sure if you missedcycle brain I got to see behind
(04:10):
the veil, like I got to see likehow the industry actually is
and it's dope.
Like I'm meeting up with peoplethat are like really tied into
these all these things you seeon the internet.
You're like, damn, that's adope bike.
Like how long did that take?
I know how long that bike tookto build.
I know how long the bike behindme, I know how long that bike
took to build.
And you're seeing, I know whensomebody's coming up with
(04:30):
something, I know how manypeople are actually pulling the
strings behind this shit, and sothat was the tight thing.
And then, uh, obviously theperks are like hanging out with
these bike builders that you'velike been like I was all gassed
Like when you meet your firstpro skateboarder that they're
bigger to me the movie stars.
So when I'd meet my first proskateboarder, I'd be like, oh
fuck, that's Mac chef over there.
Fuck, that's Mac chef.
And then you get into likemotorcycles and you're like, oh
(04:53):
fuck, that's.
That's like this face Superfamous.
Zach Batista (04:58):
There's all these things.
Zach Peacock (04:59):
You feel me.
Yeah, like all the San DiegoCustom guys Ricky Carmichael,
James Stewart.
Brandon May (05:03):
Yeah, the.
Zach Peacock (05:04):
San Diego Custom dudes.
I'm like.
Their bikes are fucking toughEvil, fucking Knievel.
Exactly, but a lot of thosedudes aren't alive anymore.
Yeah, and those are your dirtbike guys.
I didn't come up in the dirtbike shit so for me it was more
the street.
Yeah, and all the unknown guys,the unknown industries out of
san diego, like all thoseunknown dudes, do they're the
first guys doing wheelies onharley's documented.
(05:25):
That was like I was attracted,like I'm not interested in
anything at a base level.
If you're taking this boringshit and you're doing something
wild with it, then I'minterested.
Yeah, that's.
Yeah, I'm not interested inmotorcycles, I'm interested in
pushing motorcycles to theirbreaking point right, right and
you and you do that.
Brandon May (05:46):
You know I used to be like dang, I don't even need
a bike.
I used to get enjoyment.
Zach Batista (05:52):
With a bike carousel through them.
Brandon May (05:53):
Yeah, what'd you get today, he would let me ride
every one of them.
Zach Peacock (05:58):
You know what I mean.
I'm not one of those guysthat's like a pavement queen,
like this is my fucking baby.
Like those guys it's like likea pavement queen, like this is
my fucking baby.
Like it's got 30 miles on thebike because you ride it every
fucking weekend and that's it.
Like, no, no, no, like the bikethat I have right now.
I got it at the end of december23.
We're now april 24 and my bikehas almost 3 500 miles on it I
(06:19):
got some like some quickquestions.
Brandon May (06:22):
What are your skate brands right now?
If you're getting trucks likeget, run us through a board
setup, what's your deck gonna be?
Zach Peacock (06:28):
well, the board right now, just because I'm I'm
deeper than that, like myparticular things about it is
the shape, like I.
I follow brands because of theshape of the board and all
skateboarders have the madness.
We're all crazy particular.
That's why I'm sure that's whyyou asked this question, because
every one of us are lunaticsand we have, like, our specific
things about it everyone's alittle different too for a
(06:49):
little and like, literally likelittle weird millimeters is like
I'm like, oh, I'm not riding 56wheels, I'm not bombing hills,
I'm not cruising like I have ahardness to my wheel, I have
like.
So, with that being said, shaneo'neill's shape of board that
he's been riding since the olddays, like he was on.
I started following ShaneO'Neill just because obviously
he's an amazing skateboarder,but when he was on Skate Metal
(07:11):
he had the same shape on SkateMetal that he had on Primitive
and now his own brand, aprilSkateboards.
So his shape on April has beenmy favorite shape and it's an
8.125.
That's the size board that Iride.
Brandon May (07:23):
That's bigger than normal, huh no?
Zach Peacock (07:25):
8.125 is smaller than 8.25, but it's bigger than
an 8-inch board.
Brandon May (07:29):
Okay.
Zach Peacock (07:30):
And to today's standards that's a small board.
Most people ride an 8.5, 8.6.
Okay, all that weird massivelike to me.
I don't ride any of that shit.
Like, I want a smaller, I wantsmaller.
I want to flip my board.
I want to like be able, I wantit to be maneuverable.
So I bounce between an 8.125and an 825, eight and a quarter,
but usually it's 8.125.
(07:50):
So it's 8.125 april board andit can't be eight and an eighth
in.
An eighth isn't the same as8.125.
That's different.
Brandon May (07:59):
They're micro millimeters apart but it makes a
fucking difference.
And when you're going all right, when you're going and you're
buying another deck, right, andyou're trying to reduplicate the
shape or you're trying toimprove upon the shape, I don't,
I don't.
Zach Peacock (08:14):
I'm at the point too, like I said, like the
change, like I struggle withfighting change, so I know that
I can do all the tricks that Ican do on that Shane 8.125.
So I'll call every skateboardshop in Southern California Like
, hey, you guys got that AprilShane 8.125?
And one of them will have iteventually.
Or I can buy it from thewebsite.
The website has it, but I don'twant to pay the $25 shipping
(08:37):
and I like to go into the shop.
I like to touch shit.
Brandon May (08:42):
I like to get to FaceTime with the fucking dude
who's selling me the board.
How many years have you beenskating?
I?
Zach Peacock (08:44):
got baby pictures on a skateboard but I didn't
start.
Zach Batista (08:47):
We're going to have to get those pictures.
Zach Peacock (08:49):
I'm saying I didn't, I didn't give a shit
about the, I was just pushingher.
It was a toy, it was achildren's toy until sixth grade
.
Sixth grade, I was like, oh,you can move.
That's when it clicked.
You can do shit on this.
And then seventh and eighthgrade, cause I was like a little
cholo.
I grew up in like all Hispanicand black neighborhoods.
It was like I had like thelittle bit of hair on the front
(09:09):
of my my head slicked backshaved head.
Zach Batista (09:12):
I had like the cholo haircut.
Zach Peacock (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, dickies flannels, bone thugs in
harmony Tupac.
And then I got into seventhgrade and I was like oh, there's
other white people in my areathat I live in.
I didn't see other white kidsuntil seventh grade and all the
other just coincidentally, thewhite kids were the
skateboarders and they were bigbaggy fucking clothes Like this
(09:34):
is the 90s Big baggy clothes,skate company logos and all this
shit.
And I was like what the fuck?
I was like addicted.
I was like what the fuck isthat?
And I was like what the fuck isthat?
And then they were like show mea skate video.
What the fuck is a skate video?
Brandon May (09:45):
Yeah.
Zach Peacock (09:46):
So we're watching Fulfill the Dream and Rodney
Mullen versus Daewon Song likeall these original skate videos
from my era like the girl mouseand chocolate, like the
chocolate tour.
We're watching all this shitand I was just like my fucking
brain exploded Right because youhad to wait to get the tape.
Zach Batista (10:01):
It's not like you could just open up your phone.
There was no YouTube, no, no,there was no social.
Brandon May (10:04):
You put it on and you're just glued to the TV.
Zach Peacock (10:07):
Yeah, man, we're going to the local skate shops.
At the time it was Rebel, likeit was Rebel and BSA Board Shops
of America.
Those are the two local skateshops.
When I was growing up and likeI'd go to thoseater brothers and
(10:29):
get like a thrasher or transworld skateboarding and then
you'd see in them and they'd beadvertising, advertising y'all
fucking new skate videos comingout and I go to the skate shop
and I'd be like you guys gotthis shit yet.
And they're like no, maybe nextmonth.
And I come back and but we werethere all the time hanging out.
We're degenerates, dude.
We didn't do shit.
We go to school and go to theskate shop who's your favorite
skateboarder right now?
of all time.
It's always been brent, actually, okay, yeah brennan's always
changed because brent actuallyis style like I don't care about
(10:50):
how hard the trick is, I careabout how good the trick looks.
And brent actually has made uh.
I mean, he's been pro for along time but his career has ups
and downs and stuff.
He's like super, he's like the,maybe like the Cypress Hill of
skateboarding, like everybodyknows who he is, but he's not in
the light, so that.
But Brent actually is myfavorite Cause he makes you want
(11:14):
to skate by pushing down thestreet, parker street Park,
cause I like transitions.
Okay, yeah, I'm a tranny skater.
Uh, stairs or manual pad I grewup watching rodney moan and day
long song, so I'm always gonnapick a man man, that's my first
skater that I have met in personand it was fucking nuts.
Brandon May (11:37):
It was a yeah like inspiring moment.
I've never seen, you know,outside of like my homies and
stuff like that, but somebodywho's like got a stamp on their
fucking name skate, that shit isunbelievable.
Yeah, you know, it's likewatching a contortionist, a
fucking you know, uh, one ofthese circus to soleil type
(11:59):
things it's an awe-inspiringexperience when and I got to
skate with him, you know, withme and davis, one of my homies
we went out to like cityindustry.
He was gonna do someunderground competition or some
shit.
We went to to like cityindustry, he was gonna do some
underground competition or someshit.
We went to this warehouse andday one song was just there and
I was like immediately scared asfuck yeah I was like oh, do you
(12:19):
get like that?
Zach Peacock (12:20):
sometimes you get, I don't get starstruck anymore,
but I will, I'll work my way upto it like and what I mean by
that is, uh, I'm not gonna likewhen I was a kid, I'd be trying
to do the hardest shit I knewhow to do in front of those pro
skaters, because then you wantthem to to give you props or be
like damn, I was tired, orwhatever, or maybe they can get
you sponsored, because I grew upin the era of having to send in
(12:41):
sponsor me tapes or bumpinginto a pro.
And then, and then being that,like, you always hear about
those like those like goldenticket situations where it's
like the pros at the spot andyou're ripping and they're like,
hey, give me a call tomorrow,or whatever, and you're like, oh
fuck, I'm gonna skate for thiscompany maybe.
So that was my generation ofdoing that.
So for me, like, I kind of feltlike I had to show off when the
pros were around.
Now I don't fucking care aboutany of that, and there are
(13:04):
people too, and so that wasthat's the thing is like when I
I'm more hyped and I'm like, ahfuck, I get to see this person
in person.
Brandon May (13:10):
Right.
Zach Peacock (13:11):
Instead of just on the internet, we got a little
sidetracked.
My my setup is 8.125.
Brandon May (13:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock (13:18):
I read independent trucks.
I read one, 39, cause that'sthe accurate size for the board,
cause you want to have yourtrucks to match the board, 53
millimeter bones wheels.
And they're the one, oh ones.
I like the harder wheels, Idon't want no soft wheels.
The, I think it's I forget whatthe name is of the wheel, but
they're side cuts.
It's like the b it's.
It's not the a, it's the b one,so that the side of the wheel
(13:39):
is completely cut off so I canlock into shit better.
Yeah, and then seven eightshardware uh, bone swiss bearings
and then some kind of mob griplike a number three or number
four mob grip man.
Brandon May (13:50):
Okay, so for all of those who know what all of that
means.
There you go.
You feel me, I know some ofthat stuff, but not all of it,
but I know that's important tosome of you guys out there.
So there's that information.
I do have a question.
Uh, every morning you come inand you watch, uh or I call it
you do research.
Yeah, you know, it's like yourmorning meeting.
Zach Peacock (14:12):
You watch your?
Brandon May (14:12):
podcast you get into your interest for the month
or for the.
You know, yeah, what is yourinterest and what are you
researching right now?
Zach Peacock (14:20):
I could care less about school when I was a kid,
and then the second.
You get out of school.
All you want to do is learn andlike you can't get enough of
that shit.
So and youtube is a wealth ofthat so I'll sit in here I make
I got my routine, I make a bagel, you know what.
I sit down and then I watch, Iget on youtube and then I mean
the algorithm's pretty good onyoutube, on like instagram to
where it knows what I want towatch, so sending me like pop it
(14:43):
up, yeah, tech videos,motorcycle videos, skateboarding
videos and all that.
So I'm just like obsessed withlike the newest thing, so that.
And people ask me a lot like oh, what do you like?
What's a good podcasting mic?
I'm not podcasting, but I knowwhat's a good podcasting mic.
What's the best iPhone?
What's the best what havelaptop?
It's like I don't.
I'm not buying these things onthe regular, but I know what
(15:06):
they are because I like I likelearning about why it makes that
the best thing, and so that'slike that's, that's the.
That's the biggest part of itwas for me, it's just learning
as much as I can about all theweird little industries.
I want to know about the newestcameras.
I want to know about the newestanything the new, some weird
skate tech that might be comingout.
Brandon May (15:25):
Very technology based.
Is there anything on your radarthat you're waiting to get
right now?
Technology- wise.
Zach Peacock (15:32):
The weird cameras have reached.
Technology has reached a peakwith with cameras.
Right now you can go 8k.
They have cameras that do allthis other fancy extra shit.
Honestly, it's like we'vereached a point.
Like most people's TVs are like4k TVs, so you're not seeing
much of a difference.
You can get an 8k TV, butyou're going to downscale it to
4k or you're going to downscaleit to 1080 and then upload it on
(15:53):
YouTube.
Youtube's not showing you 8kvideos and it's like for the.
There is 8k TVs but there's notthat many platforms haven't
caught up with it yet.
Zach Batista (16:02):
It's not there yet .
Zach Peacock (16:04):
So with cameras we've kind of reached a point
like right now, if we're filmingthis, I'm filming at 4k, at 24
frames a second and like eightor 10 bit if I'm going to color
grade it 10 bit probably.
So there's those little thingsthat you would have it set up.
But that's a pretty baselinethat your phone does better than
(16:25):
that.
Like I have a seven S, three, aSony camera and it does all
these amazing things.
And most of the time, like I'musing those amazing things on a
niche Like if the job calls forthat, then I'll use the low
light, if the job calls for a 10bit, then I'm going to use 10
bit.
But most of the time if you'rejust putting something on the
internet, like all of us aredoing, I'll film 4K 24 for like
(16:46):
an interview type thing.
If I want to slow down, I'll use4K 60 if I'm shooting skating
or something like that.
But if I want it really slowthen I'll use like 4K 120 if I
want to slow it down even more,I like shooting in 4K because I
have the ability to reframe thefootage.
But honestly it's like that'skind of it.
Almost every camera that youbuy today on the market does
everything I just said.
(17:06):
That's why I say I feel likewe've kind of reached a level
with technology.
If you're, if you're in a nichemarket, if you want a thousand
frames, a second slow-mo,there's two camera companies
that like there's I mean there'sa couple, but there's two sub
$20,000.
There's two companies that youcan get a body, a camera body,
to do that.
Brandon May (17:24):
That's a crazy area to be in too, because now it's
a matter of what you're shooting.
Zach Peacock (17:29):
Once everything plateaus out and it gets very
competitive, again it's we'reback to a point where the
content, what you're doing, iswhat's important, like, if you
like is is it cinematic?
Are you telling a story right?
Is the person you'reinterviewing worth a shit?
There's all that.
That's kind of like what it'sall come back down around Fucks.
Brandon May (17:51):
I mean, I don't know, man, like, how long am I
knowing you now?
Zach Peacock (17:57):
Since how long you've been tattooing what?
Brandon May (17:59):
are you doing with your pictures?
Like are you?
Are you going to put them on agallery?
Zach Peacock (18:03):
Well, if you've we have art shows here all the
time yeah, and I like they.
It's the shitty thing about the, about instagram and the
internet is like things go onthere to die yeah like nobody's.
But what I've been being moremindful about is when I shoot
shit now is I'm like, oh, thiswould make a dope print.
So if you look around the roomthat we're sitting in everything
(18:24):
in here other than the twophotos that you shot that are
right behind your head- yeaheverything else in here, I took
yeah, so that's I was lookingyeah, I used to work here, guys,
and I was wondering if myphotos were still up.
They're still up they're rad.
They're still on the wall.
Brandon May (18:40):
That'll tell you how good they are yeah, I used
to shoot photography for a longtime when there's no use to
that's like some skateboardingbullshit cop I do I do?
I just, uh, been focusing onother things.
When I came to Elizabeth street, that was one of the things I
was excited about is I got totalk to him about photography
and man, we, we always wouldjust kick things around.
(19:01):
You know he would be doing atechnique and I'd be like, hey,
man, how you doing thattechnique?
You know, uh, to improve ourtattoo photography most of the
time Then we'd also just fuckaround in the front too.
You know, somebody had a bikeout front and we'd do a little
commercial real quick, or youknow.
Zach Peacock (19:18):
We were marketing ourselves before we even knew
what the fuck that was.
Yeah, like we were just filmingshit because we're like, damn,
this will make a cool littlevideo Right, like that one.
Like one of my favorite videosI shot in the shop was one of
you tattooing that.
That, uh, that older woman,that one time like with that, uh
, with that killer mic song.
yeah, fuck man, that's like oneof my favorite videos yeah and
(19:38):
that was just like you just youfilm a bunch of bullshit.
Because like, oh, I watchedthis youtube video on how to do
this weird little effect or editand premiere.
And so now I'm like, now I'mtrying to recreate that and like
I have people in my life likehow extreme do I want to go?
Do I just want it to be a cooltattoo video?
Or do I want to call one of mybuddies who can do wheelies for
fucking six blocks and get likea cool motorcycle video?
(20:02):
Or like, do I want to call myfriend who like rides horses
amazingly, like I like knowingall these different avenues so
that I can like, like how manyviews do I want this to get?
Cause I will get a gorgeousgirl to spin around on the pole
and I'll get a million views.
Zach Batista (20:14):
Easily.
Zach Peacock (20:15):
Or if I want this to just be about the art, then
I'm going to go like filmsomebody painting or film
somebody tattooing or that kindof shit.
Brandon May (20:21):
And the only way you get those pole jobs is if
you're not a fucking creep.
Zach Peacock (20:26):
You can't be a kook man, you can't be a kook
man, you can't be a fuckingcreep man like he tattoos a ton
of women my clientele is like 9798 female.
Brandon May (20:36):
I tattoo a ton of women.
The only way that happens is ifyou're not fucking googling
over them and you, you'rerespectful.
Actually, I told a lady theother day.
I was like I don't fucking givea fuck what you are.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like that shit doesn't matterto me.
Well, you know what gender youare.
Like I'm going to cause.
She was like I can't believeyou're talking to me like that,
(20:57):
cause I sent a message which Ididn't know.
I sent it.
It was kind of fucked up, butin the moment that shit fit you
know what a fucked up soft time.
Right now she's like my husbandis sharing the instagram and he
saw it too and I was like well,he didn't fucking say anything
(21:18):
so what I was like?
Zach Batista (21:19):
yeah, I was like well, he didn't fucking say
anything.
Brandon May (21:21):
Don't call me out on it yet then I started talking
shit.
But yeah, good times, man.
Give me a good story.
Give me a funny story, eitherwithin tattooing, skateboarding
or within the motorcycleindustry.
Give me something funny that'shappened to you or something.
Yeah, give me something.
Zach Peacock (21:39):
So this is the one that I tell everybody, cause,
like, customers always come inand they always ask, like what's
the wildest shit that that'shappened to you?
I started tattooing after thenight.
I started tattooing, like Imean, I've been tattooing my
friends since like 2008, 2009,2010 or whatever, but I started
taking it serious like 2011.
That's when I tried to get intoa shop and do all that shit,
but we had this thing calledtattoo Fridays at my mom's house
(22:01):
.
My mom didn't give a fuck.
She's like you guys want todrink, you guys want to fuck off
?
I didn't ever drink, but myfriends did, and it was like a
safe, safe place or whatever.
So we'd come there and all myfriends would get trashed and
then they would just I'd just dodumb shit on them.
I like, and we do it like everyother Friday.
Sometimes it'd be every Friday.
Like I tattoo him till likefour or five in the morning.
I tattooed all.
My best friend, dave Garlinger.
(22:21):
I tattooed a diamond on thebottom of his foot because he
was trash, played 18.
Well, he forgot that he wasgonna go golfing the next day so
all day I'm getting textmessages like fuck you, you,
piece of shit you tattooed meand I'm like let me do that.
Zach Batista (22:35):
Fuck you, bitch you were.
Zach Peacock (22:36):
You were threatening my life the night
before so I was like you,fucking bitch, you're the one
who, like you, asked for it,fuck you, that's why I did it,
yeah.
So anyways, that was likethat's just like the precursor
to everything.
So everybody always asks me,like what's the wildest shit?
That, like, because the 90swere wild.
I didn't tattoo in the 90s, Ijust got all the stories I got
tattooed in the 90s.
(22:57):
But uh, I mean, I know likeI've been getting tattoos since
I was 14.
So because anybody listening tothis might be like you're not
old enough to be gettingtattooed in the 90s, like I know
, I was getting tattooed ingarages.
Yeah, we know, in the back oftattoo shops yeah.
In the fucking 90s.
Yeah, you got money, you gottattooed.
Yeah, that's how it was.
They didn't give a fuck how oldyou were, whatever Anyways, so
(23:19):
the wildest, whenever a customerasks me like what's the wildest
shit?
I haven't had too many weirdwild encounters tattooing, but
this was the wildest one thathappened to me.
We were at the tattoo shop inMarina Valley that we used to be
in and this girl comes in andshe's like hey, I need to get a
coverup.
I'm like all right, what do youwant to get covered up?
And she's pretty, she's realflirty, whatever.
(23:41):
And I was with my ex-girlfriendDanielle at the time and she so
I'm like I'm not trying andlike that's kook shit, like we
just talked about, like I'm nottrying to hit on the fucking
customer.
Zach Batista (23:52):
Anyways it's business.
Zach Peacock (23:54):
You don't shit where you eat.
So she's coming in and I'm justtrying to like whatever.
So I'm talking to this chickand she is like ah, I got to get
this tattoo covered up.
And I'm like okay, I'm likewhat is it?
What do you like?
What do you want to get coveredup with?
She just drops her pants.
She's wearing some.
This is the Juicy Couture times.
Zach Batista (24:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, the Juicy Couture sweatsuit,
yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock (24:17):
She just pulls.
She's not wearing underwear, noshit, and she just yanks down
her pants and she's got hersweatpants around mid-thigh,
yeah, and she's pointing rightabove her shit.
Come on, she's pointing rightabove her shit.
Come on At this name that shehas.
And it's a tiny little name.
It's probably like an inch wideby like a quarter of an inch
tall and it's just some dude'sname.
I don't remember what thefucking dude's name was.
(24:39):
She's in the lobby of the tattooshop.
Everybody's there.
There's customers waiting toget tattooed.
Like I'm just trying to paintthe picture.
There's a bunch of people inthe lobby and she just drops
trout right there and I was like, oh fuck, we're doing it.
So I'm trying not to like, trynot to be a creep about it.
The shit just yanked her pantsdown and isn't wearing underwear
.
And she's like I got to getthis covered up.
And I'm like, okay, what do youwant to cover it up with?
(25:00):
And so then we go back andforth for a little and I was
like, okay, cool, I'm assumingat this point that they got a
divorce.
They broke up.
Whatever.
She has this dude's nametattooed on her, right above her
business.
It's like it's below the waistbut it's above her shit.
Yeah, you know that's the areaand so we do everything.
(25:22):
We set the appointment up.
We ended up landing on.
I was like why don't you justcover her with like a star?
I don't know if she had a staron her arm or like why I went to
that, maybe the juicy couturesweatsuit.
Brandon May (25:32):
I was like oh, you're simple, you'll get some
stars on your.
Stars was a thing on your basic.
That's right, 2011.
Zach Batista (25:36):
You know, like maybe people were still getting
stars.
So then, uh, a month goes by,or?
Zach Peacock (25:42):
however long it was, to the appointment.
She comes back and we didn't dowalk-ins at that shop and so
set her up with an appointment.
She comes back.
She's wearing something similar.
I'm just comfortable.
You don't want to get tattooedand be uncomfortable, which is
funny, because I'll usually talkshit on people for not getting
dressed like.
When I see somebody atstarbucks wearing like pajamas,
I'm like the fuck couldn't getyour fucking clothes on.
Yeah, you asshole, it takes twoseconds to put pants on.
(26:05):
Put your fucking pants on soanyway, like, like I, I'm
opinionated, so she comes in toget tattooed and then so same
thing happens.
She comes into my booth.
We had rooms but there's nodoors on the room and like you
can see through, like if you'reat the back of my room at that
shop, you could see like therewas a drawing desk on the
outside of the room, so there'slike four people drawing and can
see into the booth, right inbooth, right in no big deal, and
(26:30):
it's like it's creepy.
You got doors on your fuckingbooths in your tattoo shop, like
yeah, you have to take thedoors off.
So we're, there were rooms, butthey didn't have any doors on
them.
So she comes into my booth andshe I was like all right, cool,
like this is, let's see if thisfits pulls her pants off, just
yanks them down, like she putsher thumbs into the waistband
and just pulls them downmid-thigh, okay, so now I'm
getting down on my knees becauseI need to be.
(26:51):
Yeah, she was super pretty,super pretty, which was fucked
up, and everything looked nicetoo.
We'll say that.
So, it was fucked up.
So, I get down on my kneesbecause I need to be
straightforward with putting thestencil on.
You're not going to put astencil on somebody's waist.
Standing up and leaning down onstupid doesn't work like that
doesn't make sense because, likemost people might be like,
(27:13):
what's your new fucking knees?
you know, like people's bullshit, yeah, yeah.
So anyways, I get down on myknees.
I have the stencil of the star.
It was like three stars therewas the big star in the middle
and then there's two small starsnext to it, just so it kind of
like almost like a gradient,like a fade of stars wonder
woman basically good.
So I hold the stencil up and thestencil covers that and I was
like oh look it's.
I didn't want to have.
(27:33):
I didn't want her to have likethis eight inch star or lower
stomach Look at, and we're goingto black this thing out.
Yeah, I was able to lookridiculous.
Why do you have a solid blackstar on your lower stomach?
The fucking, what happened?
Obvious.
So I made the star just bigenough to cover the tattoo and
then the other ones were kind ofshaded, so it had some style to
(27:54):
it.
So I was like all right, thisworks, make a stencil, put the
stencil on.
She lays on the bed like themassage table to get tattooed.
I'm tattooing her and she'sjust like immediately like
moaning, oh shit, and not likein pain moaning, yeah, but she's
just like porn star moaning.
(28:14):
And'm like god damn it, dude,this sucks.
I got a girlfriend this chickis wild, dude like.
And then I like I'd betattooing her and I'm like in
her shit.
I'm like on her lower stomachtattooing her shit, and I'd
occasionally look up andeverybody that's drawing at the
table is looking it's like theygot their head in the fucking
booth, like they all got a bigsmile on their face like, ah,
(28:34):
zach got a fucked up clienttoday.
Yeah, so I'm doing the tattoo,and then she's saying wild shit
the whole time.
She's just like damn, I wish Iwould have wore underwear today,
like oh, she was trying to.
Yeah, she's wild dude, real wildand I didn't know what to say.
I was just like this is myfirst six months tattooing in a
shop.
Oh shit, so I'm.
These are my first experienceswith dealing with these kind of
people and so I'm like I'mtattooing.
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, Iguess you should have like I'm
(28:58):
doing my job, I'm trying to pullbrandon can attest to this.
Brian brandon knows that thatspot to tattoo the lower stomach
, the skin sucks, dude.
It's like the armpit.
The armpit, the back of theknee, the elbow ditch the knee,
ditch the inner thigh.
These are all soft skin areasand they fucking suck.
You gotta stretch like crazy.
There's no tension behind it.
(29:18):
So I'm right above a woman'sbusiness and I'm trying to
stretch while, like not being acreep, I'm not trying to stretch
into her vagina, you know liketrying to hover and stuff.
Yeah, dude I'm all up in hershit and I'm pulling line, I'm
trying to tattoo it.
She's saying this wild shit,she's moaning, it's out of
control, dude.
So I get the tattoo done andthen, like I put, there wasn't,
(29:39):
we weren't using second, therewas no second skin back then.
So I just put a little piece ofsaran wrap, I tape it up clean.
She goes, looks at it, she'slike, oh, it's perfect.
Oh, and when I left out was Iasked her.
I was like trying to makeconversation because she's
moaning.
So I'm trying to get her tostop moaning Break it up, yeah,
so.
I go so what's up?
Did you get a divorce, like youand your boyfriend Like I'm
sorry to hear, and she goes oh,no, no, no, we're still together
(29:59):
.
Oh, come on, I was like, and Ididn.
Was like, okay, I'm covering upsomebody's name that you're
still with.
I don't know where the fuckthis is, and obviously you're
still in a relationship, right,and you're throwing it out there
like that.
Zach Batista (30:19):
this is fucking wild yeah, you don't even want
to know where it's going on,yeah, so I was like all right,
cool.
Zach Peacock (30:23):
So we bandaged the tattoo and, like I said the
whole time, she's just likefucking moaning.
She's saying wild shit.
It was a wild situation and ifI was a piece of shit, boyfriend
, maybe I would have acted on it.
But and it's like and I'm nottrying to like I said my shit
where I sleep, right, where Ieat, and so we bandage it up and
all like that.
There's.
Every guy knows this.
Maybe women know this too,because they might be knowing
(30:43):
that they're doing this.
There's two types of hugs thatyou get from a woman, and one of
them is like they kind of pokethe ass out you know like you
get one of those like or you getlike the over the shoulder,
that kind of like plays into theass, out hug where they're just
like give me a hug, the fuckout casual.
Zach Batista (30:58):
But yeah, she doesn't want to.
Zach Peacock (30:59):
She's like trying to be nice.
Zach Batista (31:00):
Okay, I'm learning no ass out hugs.
Yeah, that's the thing.
There's two types of hugs.
Brandon May (31:05):
There's that one the ass out.
Zach Peacock (31:07):
Hug is kind of like we're friends or like I'm
just giving you a hug becauseyou leaned in.
Zach Batista (31:12):
So I'm humoring you.
Zach Peacock (31:13):
The second kind of hug is where they push their
crotch into you On bugglies,okay.
Zach Batista (31:18):
And so you go to give them a hug.
Brandon May (31:20):
We'll call that the cooter hug.
Zach Peacock (31:21):
And they lean in so you get that hug.
She pushed so I didn't even gofor a hug, like I kind of put my
hand out and she reached in fora hug.
So I was like okay, cool, andmy mom, like I said, my mom's
real touchy, you know whatever.
So I hug everybody, I toucheverybody.
It's my mom's fault.
My mom fucking brainwashed meto like oh, we touch people when
we talk.
(31:42):
So she leans in completely and Iokay, we're hugging, so I go to
give her a hug and she justlike smashes her brand new
tattoo into my hip groin area,like she just leans all of it in
and she's just like.
And then she's like next to myear and she's just like thank
you for everything so much.
That was like.
That couldn't have been better.
(32:02):
I don't remember verbatim whatshe said, but she said some,
some wild shit into my fuckingear.
Okay, and we're standing rightnext to a desk where there's
four other tattooers.
Yeah, so it wasn't like we're inmy booth and we're like I'm not
and I'm trying to throw it out.
She, you know, like that kindof thing.
I'm not trying to pick up onthis bitch and wild man, what
(32:25):
the fuck.
So everybody, she's doing it infront of all the customers and
she's like whispering shit in myear where everybody else at the
desk can hear it and I'm like,oh, I'm glad you liked the
tattoo, Like, if it needs totouch up or whatever, hit me up
like ball, that kind of thing.
And then, uh, that was it.
She paid, she left, never sawher again.
Brandon May (32:42):
I you know, I've always been on and he tattooed
this girl and she was fuckingmoaning like crazy too.
But I didn't believe it.
Just like in real sex, I don'tbelieve it.
Zach Peacock (33:04):
No, just kidding but, I didn't believe it if I
had to say, if I was judging onthe situation and everything
like in hindsight, because I'vealways been most guys are pretty
fucking dumb.
If there's any women listeningto this podcast, every one of
(33:25):
you fuckers.
If you like a guy, just fuckingtell him.
We're stupid dude.
We don't play the sign games.
If you want us to work, I'mdown to work for it.
I'll work for it all the time.
That's a good message too, butif you care about if you want to
like, if you're trying toholler at some dude, we're not
picking up on any of yourfucking signs.
We're dumb straight up.
Brandon May (33:42):
I was explaining that on one of the previous
episodes.
I was like chicks, like theshiny guy, yeah, but the real
ones are out doing stuff.
Yeah, you gotta catch us outthere already.
So that's the thing.
Zach Peacock (33:53):
If this girl was like moaning and putting it out
there and giving me thesketchier of the two hugs and
thinking that I'm going to catchon.
Like I said, I had a girlfriend, I wasn't catching on at all,
but like that doesn't tell methat you care about me, you like
me, you want to date me, any ofthat kind of shit.
Zach Batista (34:10):
I'm retarded.
Zach Peacock (34:11):
I need you to be like in my DMS to tell me hey,
motherfucker, I like you, likelet's go do some shit, shit.
I need you to tell me infucking person I'm not gonna, I
don't pick up on your signs andlike the girls that I could like
and the girls that I'm like,thinking like, oh, how the fuck
do I go about this?
Men are stupid.
Man, if you don't tell usstraight up, like you think,
(34:32):
that there's like those memes onthe internet where it's uh,
it'll be like a meme where hehasn't messaged me back in two
hours, he's probably thinkingabout some other girl.
And then it cuts to like a guydoing wheelies on his motorcycle
, having a good old time.
That's what the fuck we're doing.
We are not thinking about other.
Maybe there's like 20% of menare thinking about other women,
maybe, but if you see myInstagram and I'm riding
(34:53):
motorcycles, I'm tattooing, I'mskateboarding, I'm like an
active dude.
I have time for you still, Iwill make time for you, but I'm
not thinking about some otherfucking chick.
Like I just told you, I justblew off some chick who's
throwing it at me the wholefucking time.
I'm not thinking about someother girl that doesn't.
I'm not doing that.
We're we're, we're stupid.
(35:14):
You have to write the shit on apiece of paper and then I might
misinterpret it that way haveyou ever been like girl crazy?
no, no, no, yeah he's always hadthat perspective, my thing,
though, is uh, this soundsfucked up, but this is the
reality of it.
I want a girlfriend who's goingto look good next to me, that's
(35:36):
.
Brandon May (35:37):
I can't be any more honest than that I mean that
people will think that there'ssomething wrong with that, but
it's just choice.
Zach Peacock (35:44):
I'll tell you right now your choice defends
people.
Fuck off you know how people golike oh, you're an ass, you're
a tick guy, you're this guy,you're that guy.
Before I'm interested in I candate a chick who's completely
flat.
I don't care about any of thatkind of.
I love tits.
If I had, if it was like titsor ass, like I'm all tits all
day, me too.
Brandon May (36:00):
I enjoy some titties.
Titties for sure.
Yeah, holy cow If you don'thave pretty eyes.
Zach Peacock (36:06):
Don't fucking send me a message.
I care about eyes.
If you look at my track record,every girl that I've ever been
with has had some fucking crazy,insane eyes.
I like eyes too.
Zach Batista (36:21):
I fucking love eyes of eyes.
I'm eyes and teeth.
Oh my god, if you guys, if youget a big grill, I'm not
interested for sure, and I got afucked up.
I was the only one out there.
Zach Peacock (36:24):
I got a couple.
I got like that.
I have like a little weirdsnaggle tooth and it drives me
nuts.
So it's like I think that's whyI'm a little bit more critical.
Like, yeah, whenever I see somegirl like fucking veneers or
whatever, like just super hyperwhite teeth, I'm just like why
am I so attracted to this chick?
Brandon May (36:35):
what the fuck?
Right, right, yeah, eyes.
I mean my thing is big earlobes, you know, I'm saying I get the
flick in them, motherfuckersthat's what's up, something to
nibble on that girl.
Zach Peacock (36:44):
You know, hey bitch, let me lean up into that
do you have anything else forhim?
Brandon May (36:49):
um, no, man, I I'm trying to think of all the
things that, because a lot ofpeople don't have access to
peacock, and so this mightdefinitely be another.
Zach Batista (36:58):
If he's, if he's open to it, we bring him back on
.
Brandon May (37:00):
Well, I feel like they're definitely going to be
like.
Well, he didn't ask the rightquestions.
Zach Peacock (37:04):
Well then, down in the comments, you can ask the
questions that you want me toanswer next time.
Yeah, if you guys have anyquestions.
Brandon May (37:10):
Please follow up on this episode.
This guy.
I mean, we're trying to get asmuch as we can into these
episodes, but there's just somuch.
Zach Batista (37:21):
Uh, the people we're bringing on are not just
one episode type of onedimensional.
Brandon May (37:23):
Yeah, um, we can sit here and talk about film.
Well, I can talk.
Zach Peacock (37:27):
I can talk for three hours about the motorcycle
accident.
Yeah.
I can talk for three hoursabout the transplant, right, I
can tell you, no like it, justthose things.
They're not.
We were only doing this for anhour or so.
You know however long this endsup being.
It's not long enough and youdon't want to bum people out or
bore them Like maybe I'm notinteresting at all, Exactly,
(37:48):
Exactly.
Brandon May (37:49):
I mean for some motherfuckers you will, for some
you fucking won't.
That's just how it works.
Zach Peacock (37:53):
I ain't here for everybody, fuck it.
Brandon May (37:55):
John Mayer doesn't get play in everybody's radio.
Zach Peacock (37:57):
Boom, you definitely don't get play in
mine.
Brandon May (38:00):
What you listening to these days?
Yeah.
Zach Peacock (38:02):
It's always going to be like Southern hip hop,
always Like Outkast Jeezy, likeall that kind of stuff, like
that is my favorite shit.
But as of I mean like I fuckGuilty Pleasure, I fucking love
Lady Gaga, dude, okay.
I'll be banging that shit.
Okay, I was screaming that shit.
Yes, all my friends were notwhat I was expecting.
(38:23):
Everybody off on the sessionyesterday.
Yeah, cause I was driving mycar, cause I live in Whittier
and I'm like but I'm a Riversideboy all the way and so like the
quickest way I can get back toRiverside, everything will be
fine.
But I'm in Whittier and weusually skate in LA.
La got all the spots and LA gota fucking homeless problem, so
the cops don't give a fuck aboutskateboarding right now.
So we've been getting away witha lot of shit out that way.
So we're going and skating LA,san Pedro, long Beach, whatever,
(38:47):
anywhere on that side of ourlike geography.
We're going out that way Causethey don't give a fuck about us
right now, when usually you getbusted for rolling down the
street on a skateboard.
That's gotta be nice, thoughhuh on a skateboard.
Brandon May (38:56):
That's got to be nice, though, huh.
Zach Peacock (38:57):
We get more tries for sure.
Skateboarding is not a firsttrick thing.
Some of the blessed ones it is,but not for us.
Brandon May (39:03):
You know, it's interesting that the bums
haven't tried to take over skateparks.
Zach Peacock (39:07):
Well, you know what's crazy, dude?
There's a fucking respect thatgoes into that shit.
Like we're in the streets I gotto move your crack needle so I
don't hit it when I'm going offthe lift lip of the edge of this
curb to hit this rail orwhatever the fuck.
I'm skating and like I'm notfucking with them.
They're not fucking with us.
Zach Batista (39:24):
There's a respect.
Zach Peacock (39:26):
Thankfully we're not getting robbed by homeless
people and because we're willingto fight too, that's.
The other thing is like I got aweapon, I will hit you with
this fucking.
You think I'm not willing to gotake my camera.
I'm gonna fuck you up.
That's straight up, right.
So I think they know.
Maybe a couple homeless peoplegot beat up, or they just know
that, like we come from the samefucking place as you dude, I'm
focused.
Brandon May (39:46):
You fuck around with a skateboard, it's only a
matter of time till.
Zach Peacock (39:49):
You get it, but even not even talking about the
shitty side of that, like if youfuck with me, I'm gonna beat
your ass.
The side of it that I'm talkingabout is just like you're on a
hard trip right now.
I'm right next to you, I'm notfucking with you, you're not
fucking with me.
There's like this unspokenrespect and it's like maybe this
dude is homeless because hecame from a fucked up upbringing
.
I didn't come up from anybetter of an upbringing.
I just have like a slightlymore drive to keep me from being
(40:13):
homeless.
So it's not that there's like areal thing like homeless people
don't fuck with skateboardersfor the most part Do you
consider yourself a positiveperson?
I'd like to think so, but Idon't think I come off as
positive at all.
Brandon May (40:26):
Right, right, right .
I was just leading into that,just so you guys know I'm trying
to bring.
We are trying to bring peoplethat we think are cool you know
what I mean and have our livinglife in the right fashion.
That's 100% the reason webrought Peacock today.
You don't necessarily have tobe some cookie cutter
motherfucker to enjoy life, man.
You don't have to be Mr.
(40:47):
Soft-ass, fucking Mr Nice, toeverybody all the time.
You can make mistakes, you canget fucking knocked off your
bike and get back up and fuckingcontinue life in the fashion
that you want to.
It doesn't even have to takethat fucking long.
It's just a, it's a choice in,uh you know, maintaining uh, uh
a value within your life andkeeping your, your soil rich,
(41:10):
Zach what would you say topeople that look up to you, that
think you're motivational?
Zach Peacock (41:20):
I don't know.
Ask me a question, I'll I'lltell you the answer.
I don't know.
Ask me a question, I'll tellyou the answer.
I don't know.
Yeah, just, uh, just ask.
Yeah, yeah, don't like, don'tbe afraid to fail, just keep
doing it, find things that driveyou and get in the driver's
seat.
Zach Batista (41:37):
Fuck yeah, might've I throw a quote at you.
No, let me see what you think.
This is get in the driver'sseat.
Fuck yeah, might have a throw aquote at you.
No, let me see what you think.
So this is a Apollo Coilo, hesaid.
I believe enlightenment orrevelation comes in daily life.
I look for joy, the piece ofaction.
You need action.
I'd have stopped writing yearsago if it were for the money.
(41:58):
I thought that was perfect.
As as especially as it went on.
Zach Peacock (42:01):
That's perfect.
Well, that ties intoskateboarding.
Yeah, exactly.
Zach Batista (42:03):
Yeah, Because it's like.
Zach Peacock (42:05):
I didn't get into skateboarding for the money, the
fame, any of that shit.
From the time that I got intoskateboarding that wasn't there.
You did it because you wantedto do it.
So, yeah, I agree with thatwholeheartedly for sure, because
now you can get into, likethere's I tattoo a lot of
teachers and the teachers aretelling me that the kids don't
want to pay attention becausethey're like, well, I'm just
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going to be a youtuber when Igrow up.
I'm just going to be a fuckingpro skateboarder when I grow up
and you're like that's a onepercent of people that that
actually fucking works for ifyou're willing to put that much,
I don't think people understandhow much fucking effort goes
into that stuff.
Yeah, and time and all that.
I got to the point that I'm atbecause I just gave.
I cared about the shit that Iwas interested in and it just so
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.
Brandon May (42:47):
Vision, yeah, relentless fucking pursuit.
Zach Batista (42:49):
That don't like no he's not fucking going
half-hearted at all at anythinghe's doing, just because some
may fall less on the prioritylist.
Brandon May (42:57):
No, I'm not money driven at all.
That he's doing Just becausesome may fall less on the
priority list doesn't mean thathe's approaching them with any
less vigor and living life tillit's fucking fullest.
Zach Peacock (43:09):
Like I say, I'll skate till I can't walk.
That's the quote of my life.
But if I ever woke up andskateboarding just wasn't fun or
it just got fucking boring orwhatever like stepping on the
skateboard didn't give me thatendorphin release that I that I
get I'd stop fucking doing it.
I'm not I'm not.
Zach Batista (43:25):
Yeah, that'd be the day.
Zach Peacock (43:26):
I'm not so tied into this shit at all.
I'm doing this because I wantto fucking do this.
I want to maintain a level ofphysique, I want to maintain a
level of trick selection, like,like, I want, I want this shit
yeah, he used to fucking.
Brandon May (43:42):
I used to struggle working here.
You know what I mean.
Me and brian used to butt heads.
We used to have our differences.
It was a different time.
We were different people atthat time and peacock would be
like he would look at me theshitty fucking look.
If you fucking hate it so much,why don't you just fucking
leave?
I tell everybody why don't youjust fucking leave?
I tell everybody, why don't youjust?
It's your fucking choice.
He's like I wouldn't fuckingshow up for this shit if I was
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you, if I felt this way, yeah,yeah.
Zach Peacock (44:05):
If I got tired of tattooing tomorrow.
I love all my customers, but ifI was over tattooing tomorrow,
I'd go be a fucking filmmaker iffilming was more important.
I've never said no to anything.
I've always like I've like.
If it's like some suspect shit,then I'm like, ah, I might push
it out a little bit.
But even when you asked meabout this I was like, well fuck
, I've never been interviewed ona podcast.
Let's go fucking interviewRight, try it out.
Zach Batista (44:27):
This might be my favorite shit to do to talk to
people, and I would have neverfucking known that if I.
That's what we're finding outtoo, that we do like this and no
one's told to stop yet.
Zach Peacock (44:40):
That's why we keep going, and if they do tell you
to stop, fuck them.
Yeah, we do have that.
Fuck them back too.
That's what it's like.
Like I said, it's skateboarding.
I'm not doing this shit becauseI'm interested in what anybody
else thinks, like we're negative, shitty people, Like poor
ghetto kids.
Because skateboarding isobtainable.
You can get this thing fromyour friend.
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All your friends can take allthe parts of their boards and
give you a loaner shitty assboard.
Like it's the poor kids thing todo is skateboarding.
Like if you snow, like JohnCardiel said, like if you you
have to be of means to get up on, like you have to have.
Like to be a snowboarder, youhave to have a car that can get
you up the hill.
You have to put gas in the car.
You have to have all the gearto keep you dry and comfortable.
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You have to have, you have tobuy the snowboard.
You have to buy the boots, youhave to buy the lift ticket.
Zach Batista (45:28):
There's all these fucking A super expensive hobby.
Zach Peacock (45:36):
Yeah, there's all these like then you can go in
your front yard.
Brandon May (45:40):
Right, you don't need shit.
I got one of his skateboards.
Zach Peacock (45:42):
Right now I'm riding one of his old decks and
shit Well it's the same thingwhen you were telling me when
Miles was all getting into it.
It's like I went out and boughthim a fucking complete Yep.
Brandon May (45:50):
He still got it.
You feel me.
Zach Peacock (45:52):
Because I wanted like, if you're showing any
interest at all know whatskateboarding did for me.
So I'm gonna turn that shitaround all the kids at the skate
park.
One of our closest friends is.
He's like 21 years old.
This dude garza doesn't evenhave his paperwork.
He's illegal, like a legalhispanic kid does.
Anytime I see a pair of shoesthat are size nine, I just buy
the shoes because I know he'sfucking ripping.
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He's an amazing skateboarderand it's like if I keep giving
him a pair of shoes, then that'sanother month that he gets to
skateboard.
Brandon May (46:19):
That's big homie shit too.
Zach Peacock (46:22):
It's just because I know he is fucking amazing and
he loves the shit and I seemyself in him and it's like if
somebody was doing that for methen I'd push 10 times harder.
Brandon May (46:30):
That's what I was going to ask.
There was nobody in your worldthat was big homie.
Zach Peacock (46:34):
No, my buddy, aaron, aaron Crowick, that dude.
If it wasn't for Aaron, Istarted skating for SRH clothing
, supporting Radical Habits.
I started skating for SRHclothing because that was
Aaron's favorite company, ohokay, and because I couldn't
give him money for him to driveus around.
He just did it.
He was just like the good dude.
He was the older guy, he hadhis shit together, he had a job,
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he had a car, his parents hehad like loving parents that
were down to support him forwhatever the fuck he wanted to
do.
They give him the gas card whengas was 90 cents a gallon, you
know, like right.
And then they just be like yeah, fill the van up.
His parents have this minivan,and then we take the minivan, we
go skate all over southerncalifornia and then we bring the
car back stinking like sweat,fucking tires, bald, empty gas
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tank.
They didn't give a fuck.
They're like oh, whatever.
If it wasn't for Aaron and hisparents, I would not be at the
level that I am at skateboardingand the love that I have for
skateboarding.
I probably still loveskateboarding, but, as Aaron
Kroc, if it wasn't for that dude, I wouldn't have shit like
skateboarding wise Because thatdude, like he wasn't driving us
around so I could be the bestskateboarder in the group.
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He was driving us around becauseit was what we did on the
weekends.
Like we all hopped in thatstinky ass, astro van, and
whipped that shit all fucking.
We stayed at his house.
We ate all the food in hisfridge because I didn't have no
fucking food.
Pissed his parents off Sure,probably like pissed the bed or
did some wild shit you know likedidn't stunk up everything.
I didn't know any better whenthe skate videos would come out.
He had a job, he'd buy theskate videos.
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We'd go to his house.
We'd have like a littlepremiere get together.
So when I was of, when I wascapable to get sponsored as
skateboarding, I went in.
The first company I sent asponsor me tape into was srh was
because I was going to pay this.
I was like I can't give thisdude money.
I can't do anything for thisdude that he doesn't already
have, but I can fill his closetwith shit that he loves.
Brandon May (48:20):
And so that's what I did.
Zach Peacock (48:21):
And I didn't have a car to get down to.
They were in Vista.
They'd send me stuff to thehouse, but if I went down to the
warehouse they'd let me, they'dgive me a big ass, the biggest
box you can get from Amazon.
I mean now it's Amazon, butback then it was just so people
have like some context.
It was massive cardboard boxand I go to the warehouse and
they tell me, whatever you canput in this thing you can take
home.
Oh shit.
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So I'd fill this thing withthousands of dollars of clothing
and I'd bring him.
And then I just like he was, Ijust this is my ride, I'd kind
of play it off like that so theywouldn't think nothing.
And then I'd just be like don'tthe fucking box.
I'd be like what do you?
want Grab whatever the fuck youwant, throw it in the box.
Zach Batista (48:57):
I'll just say it's for me.
Brandon May (48:59):
I did that for years.
Zach Peacock (49:01):
There was no website to look at, to pick at.
I'd just be like they'd send meshit.
I'd be like yeah.
I wore a medium this month I'mchanging my shit up.
Brandon May (49:07):
That's like the dream.
And then I give it to Aaronright as a skateboarder, to get
sponsored and just Pillage, dude.
Yeah, that's tight.
Zach Peacock (49:18):
Any other last minute shout outs no, I mean,
I'm just thankful for everything.
Yeah, everybody in my life.
You fuckers know who you are.
Yeah, yeah.
Brandon May (49:25):
And I'm thankful for you giving this interview.
I really appreciate it.
This is one more chapter in ourrelationship as friends.
You know me, man, I'm alwaysgoing to have some new on the
horizon and we're gonna keeppushing for all the wild shit in
your life.
I've been, I've gotten thephone call and I've answered the
phone every fucking time he'scalled me definitely a resource
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that I'll tap into when I'mabsolutely ready to lose my shit
, and you know he'd be comingsometimes.
Zach Peacock (49:54):
It's good sometimes it's not always the
answer you want, but it might bethe answer you need to hear.
Brandon May (50:00):
I got to be prepared to call Peacock on the
phone because he's going to be.
It's not always in my favor.
I'm a dick man and I might, Imight.
You might be like on the.
Zach Peacock (50:10):
I've had plenty of friends call me when there's
when they're on the edge of likebeing suicidal and shit, and
I'm just like don't be a fuckingbitch, don't do it Right, let's
go skate, let's go fuck off,let's go do it.
Like I'll come pick you up,we'll go do some shit, but
that's what they needed, likefour or five friends, and one of
the friends that called me allthe fucking time.
The time he didn't call me, hekilled himself.
Brandon May (50:29):
Damn.
Zach Peacock (50:30):
That's just how it is Like I was able, Except for
the time that he didn't call me.
He didn't reach out.
Yeah, I didn't call, I couldn't.
Brandon May (50:39):
You better, man, be careful in these streets.
I see you out there in Whittierdipping around like it's, you
know, corona, or?
Zach Peacock (50:43):
some shit.
I'm living my life.
I don't ride motorcyclesbecause they're safe.
I don't ride skateboardsbecause they're safe.
I don't run my fucking mouthbecause it's safe.
Brandon May (50:52):
Yeah, be careful out there.
Zach Batista (50:58):
I appreciate you two coming on the show, of
course.
Zach Peacock (51:01):
It's fun man.
Thank you so much, brother.
There'll be more.
Thank you.
Hello, hello.
This is Zach Batista from B2ZPodcast, and last episode we
left off at photography andvideography of skateboarding
horses and pole dancers, as wellas acknowledging the film
talents of skateboarding legendSpike Jones.
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And now, without further ado,what you've all been waiting for
the continuation of theSkateboarders Odyssey with Zach
Peacock.
Brandon May (00:43):
It was fully flared set up.
No, that was just on the street.
Zach Peacock (00:47):
The intro was like that was purposeful.
They set that up and did allthat.
Brandon May (00:53):
But it's just a skate video.
It's just run and gun, getafter it.
What about the skate videoAlmost or yeah Right?
Is it yeah Right?
Zach Peacock (01:02):
Are you talking about Cheese and Crackers on the
mini ramp?
Nah, they're doing all of thesecrazy things and also so girl
skateboards, it's under the, theumbrella of crail tap.
Crail tap is like royal trucks,girl and chocolate skateboards,
four-star clothing, leavingsomebody out, whatever.
All those, those littleentities that they have under
that umbrella.
Their real type was spike,spike j, and spike Jones is a
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skateboarder and filmskateboarding with his friends
and grew up riding BMX andskateboards and he just happened
to be skating with Eric Costinand Mike Carroll and Rick Howard
.
That was his group of people.
So as he got better at filmingand then, like somebody saw his,
like a video that he hadproduced, and then they were
like, oh shit, will you film ourmusic video?
So then, like the beastie boys,whoever runs the beastie boys
(01:49):
hit him up.
So he did all the beastie boysmusic videos.
So he has, like this wealth ofmusic video filming because of
skateboarding.
He got him into music videosand then he started filming like
he did her and where the wildthings are spike spike.
He's done so many amazing, realbig budget movies that dude's a
fucking skateboarder yeah and sothese skits that are in all
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those girl videos that you'retalking about, like the
invisible boards and like thelike, all that stuff, like there
, there is these skits that arevery cinematic and very, those
are all spike.
Every bit of is spike, and sohe's been like a heavy part of
all that, like introducingcinema into skateboarding.
Brandon May (02:29):
How do you feel about the overproduction side of
things in extreme sports LikeRed Bull?
Zach Peacock (02:35):
I love dude.
My favorite Instagram is RedBull's Instagram.
Like, I strive towards thatkind of shit.
Like, yeah, they're gettingpermit, they're pulling permits
and yeah, they're like it.
A lot of it is like they'vetook the time to do control,
it's controlled situations.
But there is still people likethey have the money and they are
putting the money back intothis shit.
Anytime.
(02:55):
Somebody's putting the moneyback, like red bull and monster
and all that.
I don't drink energy drinks atall, but the fact that they have
the money to put into this shitand they like, like I don't.
There's other companies thatdon't give a shit about
skateboarding or extreme sportsor whatever, but these companies
are funding these situationsand it's like they could not
very well be doing any of thisshit.
(03:16):
They don't have to do any ofthis stuff, but they know that
this is what people want to see.
Yes, human beings being pushedto the limits and finding the
limits.
Brandon May (03:25):
Right.
Skateboarding is in a roughspot right now.
Zach Peacock (03:28):
I think it's just everything Like the industry,
like tattooing, is slow.
My buddy Steve like themotorcycle industry is slow.
I think he said he's down$100,000 from last year.
Holy shit.
Like everybody is taking a hitright now.
But like everybody is taking ahit right now, but it's just.
The state of the world is wildright now you're going to born
free yeah, I go to born everyyear who are you going out there
(03:48):
with?
with steve okay, yeah, becauseI'm fun, because I'm with steve,
like I the last three yearsthat I've been with him or so,
like he's been documenting fourspeed kings at born free and I
get to go and enjoy it, likethat's the nice thing about
knowing what I need to shootwhat are the perks of that job,
of what like working with uh?
I wasn't sure if you missedcycle brain I got to see behind
(04:10):
the veil, like I got to see likehow the industry actually is
and it's dope.
Like I'm meeting up with peoplethat are like really tied into
these all these things you seeon the internet.
You're like, damn, that's adope bike.
Like how long did that take?
I know how long that bike tookto build.
I know how long the bike behindme, I know how long that bike
took to build.
And you're seeing, I know whensomebody's coming up with
(04:30):
something, I know how manypeople are actually pulling the
strings behind this shit, and sothat was the tight thing.
And then, uh, obviously theperks are like hanging out with
these bike builders that you'velike been like I was all gassed
Like when you meet your firstpro skateboarder that they're
bigger to me the movie stars.
So when I'd meet my first proskateboarder, I'd be like, oh
fuck, that's Mac chef over there.
Fuck, that's Mac chef.
And then you get into likemotorcycles and you're like, oh
(04:53):
fuck, that's.
That's like this face Superfamous.
Zach Batista (04:58):
There's all these things.
Zach Peacock (04:59):
You feel me.
Yeah, like all the San DiegoCustom guys Ricky Carmichael,
James Stewart.
Brandon May (05:03):
Yeah, the.
Zach Peacock (05:04):
San Diego Custom dudes.
I'm like.
Their bikes are fucking toughEvil, fucking Knievel.
Exactly, but a lot of thosedudes aren't alive anymore.
Yeah, and those are your dirtbike guys.
I didn't come up in the dirtbike shit so for me it was more
the street.
Yeah, and all the unknown guys,the unknown industries out of
san diego, like all thoseunknown dudes, do they're the
first guys doing wheelies onharley's documented.
(05:25):
That was like I was attracted,like I'm not interested in
anything at a base level.
If you're taking this boringshit and you're doing something
wild with it, then I'minterested.
Yeah, that's.
Yeah, I'm not interested inmotorcycles, I'm interested in
pushing motorcycles to theirbreaking point right, right and
you and you do that.
Brandon May (05:46):
You know I used to be like dang, I don't even need
a bike.
I used to get enjoyment.
Zach Batista (05:52):
With a bike carousel through them.
Brandon May (05:53):
Yeah, what'd you get today, he would let me ride
every one of them.
Zach Peacock (05:58):
You know what I mean.
I'm not one of those guysthat's like a pavement queen,
like this is my fucking baby.
Like those guys it's like likea pavement queen, like this is
my fucking baby.
Like it's got 30 miles on thebike because you ride it every
fucking weekend and that's it.
Like, no, no, no, like the bikethat I have right now.
I got it at the end of december23.
We're now april 24 and my bikehas almost 3 500 miles on it I
(06:19):
got some like some quickquestions.
Brandon May (06:22):
What are your skate brands right now?
If you're getting trucks likeget, run us through a board
setup, what's your deck gonna be?
Zach Peacock (06:28):
well, the board right now, just because I'm I'm
deeper than that, like myparticular things about it is
the shape, like I.
I follow brands because of theshape of the board and all
skateboarders have the madness.
We're all crazy particular.
That's why I'm sure that's whyyou asked this question, because
every one of us are lunaticsand we have, like, our specific
things about it everyone's alittle different too for a
(06:49):
little and like, literally likelittle weird millimeters is like
I'm like, oh, I'm not riding 56wheels, I'm not bombing hills,
I'm not cruising like I have ahardness to my wheel, I have
like.
So, with that being said, shaneo'neill's shape of board that
he's been riding since the olddays, like he was on.
I started following ShaneO'Neill just because obviously
he's an amazing skateboarder,but when he was on Skate Metal
(07:11):
he had the same shape on SkateMetal that he had on Primitive
and now his own brand, aprilSkateboards.
So his shape on April has beenmy favorite shape and it's an
8.125.
That's the size board that Iride.
Brandon May (07:23):
That's bigger than normal, huh no?
Zach Peacock (07:25):
8.125 is smaller than 8.25, but it's bigger than
an 8-inch board.
Brandon May (07:29):
Okay.
Zach Peacock (07:30):
And to today's standards that's a small board.
Most people ride an 8.5, 8.6.
Okay, all that weird massivelike to me.
I don't ride any of that shit.
Like, I want a smaller, I wantsmaller.
I want to flip my board.
I want to like be able, I wantit to be maneuverable.
So I bounce between an 8.125and an 825, eight and a quarter,
but usually it's 8.125.
(07:50):
So it's 8.125 april board andit can't be eight and an eighth
in.
An eighth isn't the same as8.125.
That's different.
Brandon May (07:59):
They're micro millimeters apart but it makes a
fucking difference.
And when you're going all right, when you're going and you're
buying another deck, right, andyou're trying to reduplicate the
shape or you're trying toimprove upon the shape, I don't,
I don't.
Zach Peacock (08:14):
I'm at the point too, like I said, like the
change, like I struggle withfighting change, so I know that
I can do all the tricks that Ican do on that Shane 8.125.
So I'll call every skateboardshop in Southern California Like
, hey, you guys got that AprilShane 8.125?
And one of them will have iteventually.
Or I can buy it from thewebsite.
The website has it, but I don'twant to pay the $25 shipping
(08:37):
and I like to go into the shop.
I like to touch shit.
Brandon May (08:42):
I like to get to FaceTime with the fucking dude
who's selling me the board.
How many years have you beenskating?
I?
Zach Peacock (08:44):
got baby pictures on a skateboard but I didn't
start.
Zach Batista (08:47):
We're going to have to get those pictures.
Zach Peacock (08:49):
I'm saying I didn't, I didn't give a shit
about the, I was just pushingher.
It was a toy, it was achildren's toy until sixth grade
.
Sixth grade, I was like, oh,you can move.
That's when it clicked.
You can do shit on this.
And then seventh and eighthgrade, cause I was like a little
cholo.
I grew up in like all Hispanicand black neighborhoods.
It was like I had like thelittle bit of hair on the front
(09:09):
of my my head slicked backshaved head.
Zach Batista (09:12):
I had like the cholo haircut.
Zach Peacock (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, dickies flannels, bone thugs in
harmony Tupac.
And then I got into seventhgrade and I was like oh, there's
other white people in my areathat I live in.
I didn't see other white kidsuntil seventh grade and all the
other just coincidentally, thewhite kids were the
skateboarders and they were bigbaggy fucking clothes Like this
(09:34):
is the 90s Big baggy clothes,skate company logos and all this
shit.
And I was like what the fuck?
I was like addicted.
I was like what the fuck isthat?
And I was like what the fuck isthat?
And then they were like show mea skate video.
What the fuck is a skate video?
Brandon May (09:45):
Yeah.
Zach Peacock (09:46):
So we're watching Fulfill the Dream and Rodney
Mullen versus Daewon Song likeall these original skate videos
from my era like the girl mouseand chocolate, like the
chocolate tour.
We're watching all this shitand I was just like my fucking
brain exploded Right because youhad to wait to get the tape.
Zach Batista (10:01):
It's not like you could just open up your phone.
There was no YouTube, no, no,there was no social.
Brandon May (10:04):
You put it on and you're just glued to the TV.
Zach Peacock (10:07):
Yeah, man, we're going to the local skate shops.
At the time it was Rebel, likeit was Rebel and BSA Board Shops
of America.
Those are the two local skateshops.
When I was growing up and likeI'd go to thoseater brothers and
(10:29):
get like a thrasher or transworld skateboarding and then
you'd see in them and they'd beadvertising, advertising y'all
fucking new skate videos comingout and I go to the skate shop
and I'd be like you guys gotthis shit yet.
And they're like no, maybe nextmonth.
And I come back and but we werethere all the time hanging out.
We're degenerates, dude.
We didn't do shit.
We go to school and go to theskate shop who's your favorite
skateboarder right now?
of all time.
It's always been brent, actually, okay, yeah brennan's always
changed because brent actuallyis style like I don't care about
(10:50):
how hard the trick is, I careabout how good the trick looks.
And brent actually has made uh.
I mean, he's been pro for along time but his career has ups
and downs and stuff.
He's like super, he's like the,maybe like the Cypress Hill of
skateboarding, like everybodyknows who he is, but he's not in
the light, so that.
But Brent actually is myfavorite Cause he makes you want
(11:14):
to skate by pushing down thestreet, parker street Park,
cause I like transitions.
Okay, yeah, I'm a tranny skater.
Uh, stairs or manual pad I grewup watching rodney moan and day
long song, so I'm always gonnapick a man man, that's my first
skater that I have met in personand it was fucking nuts.
Brandon May (11:37):
It was a yeah like inspiring moment.
I've never seen, you know,outside of like my homies and
stuff like that, but somebodywho's like got a stamp on their
fucking name skate, that shit isunbelievable.
Yeah, you know, it's likewatching a contortionist, a
fucking you know, uh, one ofthese circus to soleil type
(11:59):
things it's an awe-inspiringexperience when and I got to
skate with him, you know, withme and davis, one of my homies
we went out to like cityindustry.
He was gonna do someunderground competition or some
shit.
We went to to like cityindustry, he was gonna do some
underground competition or someshit.
We went to this warehouse andday one song was just there and
I was like immediately scared asfuck yeah I was like oh, do you
(12:19):
get like that?
Zach Peacock (12:20):
sometimes you get, I don't get starstruck anymore,
but I will, I'll work my way upto it like and what I mean by
that is, uh, I'm not gonna likewhen I was a kid, I'd be trying
to do the hardest shit I knewhow to do in front of those pro
skaters, because then you wantthem to to give you props or be
like damn, I was tired, orwhatever, or maybe they can get
you sponsored, because I grew upin the era of having to send in
(12:41):
sponsor me tapes or bumpinginto a pro.
And then, and then being that,like, you always hear about
those like those like goldenticket situations where it's
like the pros at the spot andyou're ripping and they're like,
hey, give me a call tomorrow,or whatever, and you're like, oh
fuck, I'm gonna skate for thiscompany maybe.
So that was my generation ofdoing that.
So for me, like, I kind of feltlike I had to show off when the
pros were around.
Now I don't fucking care aboutany of that, and there are
(13:04):
people too, and so that wasthat's the thing is like when I
I'm more hyped and I'm like, ahfuck, I get to see this person
in person.
Brandon May (13:10):
Right.
Zach Peacock (13:11):
Instead of just on the internet, we got a little
sidetracked.
My my setup is 8.125.
Brandon May (13:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock (13:18):
I read independent trucks.
I read one, 39, cause that'sthe accurate size for the board,
cause you want to have yourtrucks to match the board, 53
millimeter bones wheels.
And they're the one, oh ones.
I like the harder wheels, Idon't want no soft wheels.
The, I think it's I forget whatthe name is of the wheel, but
they're side cuts.
It's like the b it's.
It's not the a, it's the b one,so that the side of the wheel
(13:39):
is completely cut off so I canlock into shit better.
Yeah, and then seven eightshardware uh, bone swiss bearings
and then some kind of mob griplike a number three or number
four mob grip man.
Brandon May (13:50):
Okay, so for all of those who know what all of that
means.
There you go.
You feel me, I know some ofthat stuff, but not all of it,
but I know that's important tosome of you guys out there.
So there's that information.
I do have a question.
Uh, every morning you come inand you watch, uh or I call it
you do research.
Yeah, you know, it's like yourmorning meeting.
Zach Peacock (14:12):
You watch your?
Brandon May (14:12):
podcast you get into your interest for the month
or for the.
You know, yeah, what is yourinterest and what are you
researching right now?
Zach Peacock (14:20):
I could care less about school when I was a kid,
and then the second.
You get out of school.
All you want to do is learn andlike you can't get enough of
that shit.
So and youtube is a wealth ofthat so I'll sit in here I make
I got my routine, I make a bagel, you know what.
I sit down and then I watch, Iget on youtube and then I mean
the algorithm's pretty good onyoutube, on like instagram to
where it knows what I want towatch, so sending me like pop it
(14:43):
up, yeah, tech videos,motorcycle videos, skateboarding
videos and all that.
So I'm just like obsessed withlike the newest thing, so that.
And people ask me a lot like oh, what do you like?
What's a good podcasting mic?
I'm not podcasting, but I knowwhat's a good podcasting mic.
What's the best iPhone?
What's the best what havelaptop?
It's like I don't.
I'm not buying these things onthe regular, but I know what
(15:06):
they are because I like I likelearning about why it makes that
the best thing, and so that'slike that's, that's the.
That's the biggest part of itwas for me, it's just learning
as much as I can about all theweird little industries.
I want to know about the newestcameras.
I want to know about the newestanything the new, some weird
skate tech that might be comingout.
Brandon May (15:25):
Very technology based.
Is there anything on your radarthat you're waiting to get
right now?
Technology- wise.
Zach Peacock (15:32):
The weird cameras have reached.
Technology has reached a peakwith with cameras.
Right now you can go 8k.
They have cameras that do allthis other fancy extra shit.
Honestly, it's like we'vereached a point.
Like most people's TVs are like4k TVs, so you're not seeing
much of a difference.
You can get an 8k TV, butyou're going to downscale it to
4k or you're going to downscaleit to 1080 and then upload it on
(15:53):
YouTube.
Youtube's not showing you 8kvideos and it's like for the.
There is 8k TVs but there's notthat many platforms haven't
caught up with it yet.
Zach Batista (16:02):
It's not there yet .
Zach Peacock (16:04):
So with cameras we've kind of reached a point
like right now, if we're filmingthis, I'm filming at 4k, at 24
frames a second and like eightor 10 bit if I'm going to color
grade it 10 bit probably.
So there's those little thingsthat you would have it set up.
But that's a pretty baselinethat your phone does better than
(16:25):
that.
Like I have a seven S, three, aSony camera and it does all
these amazing things.
And most of the time, like I'musing those amazing things on a
niche Like if the job calls forthat, then I'll use the low
light, if the job calls for a 10bit, then I'm going to use 10
bit.
But most of the time if you'rejust putting something on the
internet, like all of us aredoing, I'll film 4K 24 for like
(16:46):
an interview type thing.
If I want to slow down, I'll use4K 60 if I'm shooting skating
or something like that.
But if I want it really slowthen I'll use like 4K 120 if I
want to slow it down even more,I like shooting in 4K because I
have the ability to reframe thefootage.
But honestly it's like that'skind of it.
Almost every camera that youbuy today on the market does
everything I just said.
(17:06):
That's why I say I feel likewe've kind of reached a level
with technology.
If you're, if you're in a nichemarket, if you want a thousand
frames, a second slow-mo,there's two camera companies
that like there's I mean there'sa couple, but there's two sub
$20,000.
There's two companies that youcan get a body, a camera body,
to do that.
Brandon May (17:24):
That's a crazy area to be in too, because now it's
a matter of what you're shooting.
Zach Peacock (17:29):
Once everything plateaus out and it gets very
competitive, again it's we'reback to a point where the
content, what you're doing, iswhat's important, like, if you
like is is it cinematic?
Are you telling a story right?
Is the person you'reinterviewing worth a shit?
There's all that.
That's kind of like what it'sall come back down around Fucks.
Brandon May (17:51):
I mean, I don't know, man, like, how long am I
knowing you now?
Zach Peacock (17:57):
Since how long you've been tattooing what?
Brandon May (17:59):
are you doing with your pictures?
Like are you?
Are you going to put them on agallery?
Zach Peacock (18:03):
Well, if you've we have art shows here all the
time yeah, and I like they.
It's the shitty thing about the, about instagram and the
internet is like things go onthere to die yeah like nobody's.
But what I've been being moremindful about is when I shoot
shit now is I'm like, oh, thiswould make a dope print.
So if you look around the roomthat we're sitting in everything
(18:24):
in here other than the twophotos that you shot that are
right behind your head- yeaheverything else in here, I took
yeah, so that's I was lookingyeah, I used to work here, guys,
and I was wondering if myphotos were still up.
They're still up they're rad.
They're still on the wall.
Brandon May (18:40):
That'll tell you how good they are yeah, I used
to shoot photography for a longtime when there's no use to
that's like some skateboardingbullshit cop I do I do?
I just, uh, been focusing onother things.
When I came to Elizabeth street, that was one of the things I
was excited about is I got totalk to him about photography
and man, we, we always wouldjust kick things around.
(19:01):
You know he would be doing atechnique and I'd be like, hey,
man, how you doing thattechnique?
You know, uh, to improve ourtattoo photography most of the
time Then we'd also just fuckaround in the front too.
You know, somebody had a bikeout front and we'd do a little
commercial real quick, or youknow.
Zach Peacock (19:18):
We were marketing ourselves before we even knew
what the fuck that was.
Yeah, like we were just filmingshit because we're like, damn,
this will make a cool littlevideo Right, like that one.
Like one of my favorite videosI shot in the shop was one of
you tattooing that.
That, uh, that older woman,that one time like with that, uh
, with that killer mic song.
yeah, fuck man, that's like oneof my favorite videos yeah and
(19:38):
that was just like you just youfilm a bunch of bullshit.
Because like, oh, I watchedthis youtube video on how to do
this weird little effect or editand premiere.
And so now I'm like, now I'mtrying to recreate that and like
I have people in my life likehow extreme do I want to go?
Do I just want it to be a cooltattoo video?
Or do I want to call one of mybuddies who can do wheelies for
fucking six blocks and get likea cool motorcycle video?
(20:02):
Or like, do I want to call myfriend who like rides horses
amazingly, like I like knowingall these different avenues so
that I can like, like how manyviews do I want this to get?
Cause I will get a gorgeousgirl to spin around on the pole
and I'll get a million views.
Zach Batista (20:14):
Easily.
Zach Peacock (20:15):
Or if I want this to just be about the art, then
I'm going to go like filmsomebody painting or film
somebody tattooing or that kindof shit.
Brandon May (20:21):
And the only way you get those pole jobs is if
you're not a fucking creep.
Zach Peacock (20:26):
You can't be a kook man, you can't be a kook
man, you can't be a fuckingcreep man like he tattoos a ton
of women my clientele is like 9798 female.
Brandon May (20:36):
I tattoo a ton of women.
The only way that happens is ifyou're not fucking googling
over them and you, you'rerespectful.
Actually, I told a lady theother day.
I was like I don't fucking givea fuck what you are.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like that shit doesn't matterto me.
Well, you know what gender youare.
Like I'm going to cause.
She was like I can't believeyou're talking to me like that,
(20:57):
cause I sent a message which Ididn't know.
I sent it.
It was kind of fucked up, butin the moment that shit fit you
know what a fucked up soft time.
Right now she's like my husbandis sharing the instagram and he
saw it too and I was like well,he didn't fucking say anything
(21:18):
so what I was like?
Zach Batista (21:19):
yeah, I was like well, he didn't fucking say
anything.
Brandon May (21:21):
Don't call me out on it yet then I started talking
shit.
But yeah, good times, man.
Give me a good story.
Give me a funny story, eitherwithin tattooing, skateboarding
or within the motorcycleindustry.
Give me something funny that'shappened to you or something.
Yeah, give me something.
Zach Peacock (21:39):
So this is the one that I tell everybody, cause,
like, customers always come inand they always ask, like what's
the wildest shit that that'shappened to you?
I started tattooing after thenight.
I started tattooing, like Imean, I've been tattooing my
friends since like 2008, 2009,2010 or whatever, but I started
taking it serious like 2011.
That's when I tried to get intoa shop and do all that shit,
but we had this thing calledtattoo Fridays at my mom's house
(22:01):
.
My mom didn't give a fuck.
She's like you guys want todrink, you guys want to fuck off
?
I didn't ever drink, but myfriends did, and it was like a
safe, safe place or whatever.
So we'd come there and all myfriends would get trashed and
then they would just I'd just dodumb shit on them.
I like, and we do it like everyother Friday.
Sometimes it'd be every Friday.
Like I tattoo him till likefour or five in the morning.
I tattooed all.
My best friend, dave Garlinger.
(22:21):
I tattooed a diamond on thebottom of his foot because he
was trash, played 18.
Well, he forgot that he wasgonna go golfing the next day so
all day I'm getting textmessages like fuck you, you,
piece of shit you tattooed meand I'm like let me do that.
Zach Batista (22:35):
Fuck you, bitch you were.
Zach Peacock (22:36):
You were threatening my life the night
before so I was like you,fucking bitch, you're the one
who, like you, asked for it,fuck you, that's why I did it,
yeah.
So anyways, that was likethat's just like the precursor
to everything.
So everybody always asks me,like what's the wildest shit?
That, like, because the 90swere wild.
I didn't tattoo in the 90s, Ijust got all the stories I got
tattooed in the 90s.
(22:57):
But uh, I mean, I know likeI've been getting tattoos since
I was 14.
So because anybody listening tothis might be like you're not
old enough to be gettingtattooed in the 90s, like I know
, I was getting tattooed ingarages.
Yeah, we know, in the back oftattoo shops yeah.
In the fucking 90s.
Yeah, you got money, you gottattooed.
Yeah, that's how it was.
They didn't give a fuck how oldyou were, whatever Anyways, so
(23:19):
the wildest, whenever a customerasks me like what's the wildest
shit?
I haven't had too many weirdwild encounters tattooing, but
this was the wildest one thathappened to me.
We were at the tattoo shop inMarina Valley that we used to be
in and this girl comes in andshe's like hey, I need to get a
coverup.
I'm like all right, what do youwant to get covered up?
And she's pretty, she's realflirty, whatever.
(23:41):
And I was with my ex-girlfriendDanielle at the time and she so
I'm like I'm not trying andlike that's kook shit, like we
just talked about, like I'm nottrying to hit on the fucking
customer.
Zach Batista (23:52):
Anyways it's business.
Zach Peacock (23:54):
You don't shit where you eat.
So she's coming in and I'm justtrying to like whatever.
So I'm talking to this chickand she is like ah, I got to get
this tattoo covered up.
And I'm like okay, I'm likewhat is it?
What do you like?
What do you want to get coveredup with?
She just drops her pants.
She's wearing some.
This is the Juicy Couture times.
Zach Batista (24:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, the Juicy Couture sweatsuit,
yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock (24:17):
She just pulls.
She's not wearing underwear, noshit, and she just yanks down
her pants and she's got hersweatpants around mid-thigh,
yeah, and she's pointing rightabove her shit.
Come on, she's pointing rightabove her shit.
Come on At this name that shehas.
And it's a tiny little name.
It's probably like an inch wideby like a quarter of an inch
tall and it's just some dude'sname.
I don't remember what thefucking dude's name was.
(24:39):
She's in the lobby of the tattooshop.
Everybody's there.
There's customers waiting toget tattooed.
Like I'm just trying to paintthe picture.
There's a bunch of people inthe lobby and she just drops
trout right there and I was like, oh fuck, we're doing it.
So I'm trying not to like, trynot to be a creep about it.
The shit just yanked her pantsdown and isn't wearing underwear
.
And she's like I got to getthis covered up.
And I'm like, okay, what do youwant to cover it up with?
(25:00):
And so then we go back andforth for a little and I was
like, okay, cool, I'm assumingat this point that they got a
divorce.
They broke up.
Whatever.
She has this dude's nametattooed on her, right above her
business.
It's like it's below the waistbut it's above her shit.
Yeah, you know that's the areaand so we do everything.
(25:22):
We set the appointment up.
We ended up landing on.
I was like why don't you justcover her with like a star?
I don't know if she had a staron her arm or like why I went to
that, maybe the juicy couturesweatsuit.
Brandon May (25:32):
I was like oh, you're simple, you'll get some
stars on your.
Stars was a thing on your basic.
That's right, 2011.
Zach Batista (25:36):
You know, like maybe people were still getting
stars.
So then, uh, a month goes by,or?
Zach Peacock (25:42):
however long it was, to the appointment.
She comes back and we didn't dowalk-ins at that shop and so
set her up with an appointment.
She comes back.
She's wearing something similar.
I'm just comfortable.
You don't want to get tattooedand be uncomfortable, which is
funny, because I'll usually talkshit on people for not getting
dressed like.
When I see somebody atstarbucks wearing like pajamas,
I'm like the fuck couldn't getyour fucking clothes on.
Yeah, you asshole, it takes twoseconds to put pants on.
(26:05):
Put your fucking pants on soanyway, like, like I, I'm
opinionated, so she comes in toget tattooed and then so same
thing happens.
She comes into my booth.
We had rooms but there's nodoors on the room and like you
can see through, like if you'reat the back of my room at that
shop, you could see like therewas a drawing desk on the
outside of the room, so there'slike four people drawing and can
see into the booth, right inbooth, right in no big deal, and
(26:30):
it's like it's creepy.
You got doors on your fuckingbooths in your tattoo shop, like
yeah, you have to take thedoors off.
So we're, there were rooms, butthey didn't have any doors on
them.
So she comes into my booth andshe I was like all right, cool,
like this is, let's see if thisfits pulls her pants off, just
yanks them down, like she putsher thumbs into the waistband
and just pulls them downmid-thigh, okay, so now I'm
getting down on my knees becauseI need to be.
(26:51):
Yeah, she was super pretty,super pretty, which was fucked
up, and everything looked nicetoo.
We'll say that.
So, it was fucked up.
So, I get down on my kneesbecause I need to be
straightforward with putting thestencil on.
You're not going to put astencil on somebody's waist.
Standing up and leaning down onstupid doesn't work like that
doesn't make sense because, likemost people might be like,
(27:13):
what's your new fucking knees?
you know, like people's bullshit, yeah, yeah.
So anyways, I get down on myknees.
I have the stencil of the star.
It was like three stars therewas the big star in the middle
and then there's two small starsnext to it, just so it kind of
like almost like a gradient,like a fade of stars wonder
woman basically good.
So I hold the stencil up and thestencil covers that and I was
like oh look it's.
I didn't want to have.
(27:33):
I didn't want her to have likethis eight inch star or lower
stomach Look at, and we're goingto black this thing out.
Yeah, I was able to lookridiculous.
Why do you have a solid blackstar on your lower stomach?
The fucking, what happened?
Obvious.
So I made the star just bigenough to cover the tattoo and
then the other ones were kind ofshaded, so it had some style to
(27:54):
it.
So I was like all right, thisworks, make a stencil, put the
stencil on.
She lays on the bed like themassage table to get tattooed.
I'm tattooing her and she'sjust like immediately like
moaning, oh shit, and not likein pain moaning, yeah, but she's
just like porn star moaning.
(28:14):
And'm like god damn it, dude,this sucks.
I got a girlfriend this chickis wild, dude like.
And then I like I'd betattooing her and I'm like in
her shit.
I'm like on her lower stomachtattooing her shit, and I'd
occasionally look up andeverybody that's drawing at the
table is looking it's like theygot their head in the fucking
booth, like they all got a bigsmile on their face like, ah,
(28:34):
zach got a fucked up clienttoday.
Yeah, so I'm doing the tattoo,and then she's saying wild shit
the whole time.
She's just like damn, I wish Iwould have wore underwear today,
like oh, she was trying to.
Yeah, she's wild dude, real wildand I didn't know what to say.
I was just like this is myfirst six months tattooing in a
shop.
Oh shit, so I'm.
These are my first experienceswith dealing with these kind of
people and so I'm like I'mtattooing.
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, Iguess you should have like I'm
(28:58):
doing my job, I'm trying to pullbrandon can attest to this.
Brian brandon knows that thatspot to tattoo the lower stomach
, the skin sucks, dude.
It's like the armpit.
The armpit, the back of theknee, the elbow ditch the knee,
ditch the inner thigh.
These are all soft skin areasand they fucking suck.
You gotta stretch like crazy.
There's no tension behind it.
(29:18):
So I'm right above a woman'sbusiness and I'm trying to
stretch while, like not being acreep, I'm not trying to stretch
into her vagina, you know liketrying to hover and stuff.
Yeah, dude I'm all up in hershit and I'm pulling line, I'm
trying to tattoo it.
She's saying this wild shit,she's moaning, it's out of
control, dude.
So I get the tattoo done andthen, like I put, there wasn't,
(29:39):
we weren't using second, therewas no second skin back then.
So I just put a little piece ofsaran wrap, I tape it up clean.
She goes, looks at it, she'slike, oh, it's perfect.
Oh, and when I left out was Iasked her.
I was like trying to makeconversation because she's
moaning.
So I'm trying to get her tostop moaning Break it up, yeah,
so.
I go so what's up?
Did you get a divorce, like youand your boyfriend Like I'm
sorry to hear, and she goes oh,no, no, no, we're still together
(29:59):
.
Oh, come on, I was like, and Ididn.
Was like, okay, I'm covering upsomebody's name that you're
still with.
I don't know where the fuckthis is, and obviously you're
still in a relationship, right,and you're throwing it out there
like that.
Zach Batista (30:19):
this is fucking wild yeah, you don't even want
to know where it's going on,yeah, so I was like all right,
cool.
Zach Peacock (30:23):
So we bandaged the tattoo and, like I said the
whole time, she's just likefucking moaning.
She's saying wild shit.
It was a wild situation and ifI was a piece of shit, boyfriend
, maybe I would have acted on it.
But and it's like and I'm nottrying to like I said my shit
where I sleep, right, where Ieat, and so we bandage it up and
all like that.
There's.
Every guy knows this.
Maybe women know this too,because they might be knowing
(30:43):
that they're doing this.
There's two types of hugs thatyou get from a woman, and one of
them is like they kind of pokethe ass out you know like you
get one of those like or you getlike the over the shoulder,
that kind of like plays into theass, out hug where they're just
like give me a hug, the fuckout casual.
Zach Batista (30:58):
But yeah, she doesn't want to.
Zach Peacock (30:59):
She's like trying to be nice.
Zach Batista (31:00):
Okay, I'm learning no ass out hugs.
Yeah, that's the thing.
There's two types of hugs.
Brandon May (31:05):
There's that one the ass out.
Zach Peacock (31:07):
Hug is kind of like we're friends or like I'm
just giving you a hug becauseyou leaned in.
Zach Batista (31:12):
So I'm humoring you.
Zach Peacock (31:13):
The second kind of hug is where they push their
crotch into you On bugglies,okay.
Zach Batista (31:18):
And so you go to give them a hug.
Brandon May (31:20):
We'll call that the cooter hug.
Zach Peacock (31:21):
And they lean in so you get that hug.
She pushed so I didn't even gofor a hug, like I kind of put my
hand out and she reached in fora hug.
So I was like okay, cool, andmy mom, like I said, my mom's
real touchy, you know whatever.
So I hug everybody, I toucheverybody.
It's my mom's fault.
My mom fucking brainwashed meto like oh, we touch people when
we talk.
(31:42):
So she leans in completely and Iokay, we're hugging, so I go to
give her a hug and she justlike smashes her brand new
tattoo into my hip groin area,like she just leans all of it in
and she's just like.
And then she's like next to myear and she's just like thank
you for everything so much.
That was like.
That couldn't have been better.
(32:02):
I don't remember verbatim whatshe said, but she said some,
some wild shit into my fuckingear.
Okay, and we're standing rightnext to a desk where there's
four other tattooers.
Yeah, so it wasn't like we're inmy booth and we're like I'm not
and I'm trying to throw it out.
She, you know, like that kindof thing.
I'm not trying to pick up onthis bitch and wild man, what
(32:25):
the fuck.
So everybody, she's doing it infront of all the customers and
she's like whispering shit in myear where everybody else at the
desk can hear it and I'm like,oh, I'm glad you liked the
tattoo, Like, if it needs totouch up or whatever, hit me up
like ball, that kind of thing.
And then, uh, that was it.
She paid, she left, never sawher again.
Brandon May (32:42):
I you know, I've always been on and he tattooed
this girl and she was fuckingmoaning like crazy too.
But I didn't believe it.
Just like in real sex, I don'tbelieve it.
Zach Peacock (33:04):
No, just kidding but, I didn't believe it if I
had to say, if I was judging onthe situation and everything
like in hindsight, because I'vealways been most guys are pretty
fucking dumb.
If there's any women listeningto this podcast, every one of
(33:25):
you fuckers.
If you like a guy, just fuckingtell him.
We're stupid dude.
We don't play the sign games.
If you want us to work, I'mdown to work for it.
I'll work for it all the time.
That's a good message too, butif you care about if you want to
like, if you're trying toholler at some dude, we're not
picking up on any of yourfucking signs.
We're dumb straight up.
Brandon May (33:42):
I was explaining that on one of the previous
episodes.
I was like chicks, like theshiny guy, yeah, but the real
ones are out doing stuff.
Yeah, you gotta catch us outthere already.
So that's the thing.
Zach Peacock (33:53):
If this girl was like moaning and putting it out
there and giving me thesketchier of the two hugs and
thinking that I'm going to catchon.
Like I said, I had a girlfriend, I wasn't catching on at all,
but like that doesn't tell methat you care about me, you like
me, you want to date me, any ofthat kind of shit.
Zach Batista (34:10):
I'm retarded.
Zach Peacock (34:11):
I need you to be like in my DMS to tell me hey,
motherfucker, I like you, likelet's go do some shit, shit.
I need you to tell me infucking person I'm not gonna, I
don't pick up on your signs andlike the girls that I could like
and the girls that I'm like,thinking like, oh, how the fuck
do I go about this?
Men are stupid.
Man, if you don't tell usstraight up, like you think,
(34:32):
that there's like those memes onthe internet where it's uh,
it'll be like a meme where hehasn't messaged me back in two
hours, he's probably thinkingabout some other girl.
And then it cuts to like a guydoing wheelies on his motorcycle
, having a good old time.
That's what the fuck we're doing.
We are not thinking about other.
Maybe there's like 20% of menare thinking about other women,
maybe, but if you see myInstagram and I'm riding
(34:53):
motorcycles, I'm tattooing, I'mskateboarding, I'm like an
active dude.
I have time for you still, Iwill make time for you, but I'm
not thinking about some otherfucking chick.
Like I just told you, I justblew off some chick who's
throwing it at me the wholefucking time.
I'm not thinking about someother girl that doesn't.
I'm not doing that.
We're we're, we're stupid.
(35:14):
You have to write the shit on apiece of paper and then I might
misinterpret it that way haveyou ever been like girl crazy?
no, no, no, yeah he's always hadthat perspective, my thing,
though, is uh, this soundsfucked up, but this is the
reality of it.
I want a girlfriend who's goingto look good next to me, that's
(35:36):
.
Brandon May (35:37):
I can't be any more honest than that I mean that
people will think that there'ssomething wrong with that, but
it's just choice.
Zach Peacock (35:44):
I'll tell you right now your choice defends
people.
Fuck off you know how people golike oh, you're an ass, you're
a tick guy, you're this guy,you're that guy.
Before I'm interested in I candate a chick who's completely
flat.
I don't care about any of thatkind of.
I love tits.
If I had, if it was like titsor ass, like I'm all tits all
day, me too.
Brandon May (36:00):
I enjoy some titties.
Titties for sure.
Yeah, holy cow If you don'thave pretty eyes.
Zach Peacock (36:06):
Don't fucking send me a message.
I care about eyes.
If you look at my track record,every girl that I've ever been
with has had some fucking crazy,insane eyes.
I like eyes too.
Zach Batista (36:21):
I fucking love eyes of eyes.
I'm eyes and teeth.
Oh my god, if you guys, if youget a big grill, I'm not
interested for sure, and I got afucked up.
I was the only one out there.
Zach Peacock (36:24):
I got a couple.
I got like that.
I have like a little weirdsnaggle tooth and it drives me
nuts.
So it's like I think that's whyI'm a little bit more critical.
Like, yeah, whenever I see somegirl like fucking veneers or
whatever, like just super hyperwhite teeth, I'm just like why
am I so attracted to this chick?
Brandon May (36:35):
what the fuck?
Right, right, yeah, eyes.
I mean my thing is big earlobes, you know, I'm saying I get the
flick in them, motherfuckersthat's what's up, something to
nibble on that girl.
Zach Peacock (36:44):
You know, hey bitch, let me lean up into that
do you have anything else forhim?
Brandon May (36:49):
um, no, man, I I'm trying to think of all the
things that, because a lot ofpeople don't have access to
peacock, and so this mightdefinitely be another.
Zach Batista (36:58):
If he's, if he's open to it, we bring him back on
.
Brandon May (37:00):
Well, I feel like they're definitely going to be
like.
Well, he didn't ask the rightquestions.
Zach Peacock (37:04):
Well then, down in the comments, you can ask the
questions that you want me toanswer next time.
Yeah, if you guys have anyquestions.
Brandon May (37:10):
Please follow up on this episode.
This guy.
I mean, we're trying to get asmuch as we can into these
episodes, but there's just somuch.
Zach Batista (37:21):
Uh, the people we're bringing on are not just
one episode type of onedimensional.
Brandon May (37:23):
Yeah, um, we can sit here and talk about film.
Well, I can talk.
Zach Peacock (37:27):
I can talk for three hours about the motorcycle
accident.
Yeah.
I can talk for three hoursabout the transplant, right, I
can tell you, no like it, justthose things.
They're not.
We were only doing this for anhour or so.
You know however long this endsup being.
It's not long enough and youdon't want to bum people out or
bore them Like maybe I'm notinteresting at all, Exactly,
(37:48):
Exactly.
Brandon May (37:49):
I mean for some motherfuckers you will, for some
you fucking won't.
That's just how it works.
Zach Peacock (37:53):
I ain't here for everybody, fuck it.
Brandon May (37:55):
John Mayer doesn't get play in everybody's radio.
Zach Peacock (37:57):
Boom, you definitely don't get play in
mine.
Brandon May (38:00):
What you listening to these days?
Yeah.
Zach Peacock (38:02):
It's always going to be like Southern hip hop,
always Like Outkast Jeezy, likeall that kind of stuff, like
that is my favorite shit.
But as of I mean like I fuckGuilty Pleasure, I fucking love
Lady Gaga, dude, okay.
I'll be banging that shit.
Okay, I was screaming that shit.
Yes, all my friends were notwhat I was expecting.
(38:23):
Everybody off on the sessionyesterday.
Yeah, cause I was driving mycar, cause I live in Whittier
and I'm like but I'm a Riversideboy all the way and so like the
quickest way I can get back toRiverside, everything will be
fine.
But I'm in Whittier and weusually skate in LA.
La got all the spots and LA gota fucking homeless problem, so
the cops don't give a fuck aboutskateboarding right now.
So we've been getting away witha lot of shit out that way.
So we're going and skating LA,san Pedro, long Beach, whatever,
(38:47):
anywhere on that side of ourlike geography.
We're going out that way Causethey don't give a fuck about us
right now, when usually you getbusted for rolling down the
street on a skateboard.
That's gotta be nice, thoughhuh on a skateboard.
Brandon May (38:56):
That's got to be nice, though, huh.
Zach Peacock (38:57):
We get more tries for sure.
Skateboarding is not a firsttrick thing.
Some of the blessed ones it is,but not for us.
Brandon May (39:03):
You know, it's interesting that the bums
haven't tried to take over skateparks.
Zach Peacock (39:07):
Well, you know what's crazy, dude?
There's a fucking respect thatgoes into that shit.
Like we're in the streets I gotto move your crack needle so I
don't hit it when I'm going offthe lift lip of the edge of this
curb to hit this rail orwhatever the fuck.
I'm skating and like I'm notfucking with them.
They're not fucking with us.
Zach Batista (39:24):
There's a respect.
Zach Peacock (39:26):
Thankfully we're not getting robbed by homeless
people and because we're willingto fight too, that's.
The other thing is like I got aweapon, I will hit you with
this fucking.
You think I'm not willing to gotake my camera.
I'm gonna fuck you up.
That's straight up, right.
So I think they know.
Maybe a couple homeless peoplegot beat up, or they just know
that, like we come from the samefucking place as you dude, I'm
focused.
Brandon May (39:46):
You fuck around with a skateboard, it's only a
matter of time till.
Zach Peacock (39:49):
You get it, but even not even talking about the
shitty side of that, like if youfuck with me, I'm gonna beat
your ass.
The side of it that I'm talkingabout is just like you're on a
hard trip right now.
I'm right next to you, I'm notfucking with you, you're not
fucking with me.
There's like this unspokenrespect and it's like maybe this
dude is homeless because hecame from a fucked up upbringing
.
I didn't come up from anybetter of an upbringing.
I just have like a slightlymore drive to keep me from being
(40:13):
homeless.
So it's not that there's like areal thing like homeless people
don't fuck with skateboardersfor the most part Do you
consider yourself a positiveperson?
I'd like to think so, but Idon't think I come off as
positive at all.
Brandon May (40:26):
Right, right, right .
I was just leading into that,just so you guys know I'm trying
to bring.
We are trying to bring peoplethat we think are cool you know
what I mean and have our livinglife in the right fashion.
That's 100% the reason webrought Peacock today.
You don't necessarily have tobe some cookie cutter
motherfucker to enjoy life, man.
You don't have to be Mr.
(40:47):
Soft-ass, fucking Mr Nice, toeverybody all the time.
You can make mistakes, you canget fucking knocked off your
bike and get back up and fuckingcontinue life in the fashion
that you want to.
It doesn't even have to takethat fucking long.
It's just a, it's a choice in,uh you know, maintaining uh, uh
a value within your life andkeeping your, your soil rich,
(41:10):
Zach what would you say topeople that look up to you, that
think you're motivational?
Zach Peacock (41:20):
I don't know.
Ask me a question, I'll I'lltell you the answer.
I don't know.
Ask me a question, I'll tellyou the answer.
I don't know.
Yeah, just, uh, just ask.
Yeah, yeah, don't like, don'tbe afraid to fail, just keep
doing it, find things that driveyou and get in the driver's
seat.
Zach Batista (41:37):
Fuck yeah, might've I throw a quote at you.
No, let me see what you think.
This is get in the driver'sseat.
Fuck yeah, might have a throw aquote at you.
No, let me see what you think.
So this is a Apollo Coilo, hesaid.
I believe enlightenment orrevelation comes in daily life.
I look for joy, the piece ofaction.
You need action.
I'd have stopped writing yearsago if it were for the money.
(41:58):
I thought that was perfect.
As as especially as it went on.
Zach Peacock (42:01):
That's perfect.
Well, that ties intoskateboarding.
Yeah, exactly.
Zach Batista (42:03):
Yeah, Because it's like.
Zach Peacock (42:05):
I didn't get into skateboarding for the money, the
fame, any of that shit.
From the time that I got intoskateboarding that wasn't there.
You did it because you wantedto do it.
So, yeah, I agree with thatwholeheartedly for sure, because
now you can get into, likethere's I tattoo a lot of
teachers and the teachers aretelling me that the kids don't
want to pay attention becausethey're like, well, I'm just
(42:25):
going to be a youtuber when Igrow up.
I'm just going to be a fuckingpro skateboarder when I grow up
and you're like that's a onepercent of people that that
actually fucking works for ifyou're willing to put that much,
I don't think people understandhow much fucking effort goes
into that stuff.
Yeah, and time and all that.
I got to the point that I'm atbecause I just gave.
I cared about the shit that Iwas interested in and it just so
(42:47):
.
Brandon May (42:47):
Vision, yeah, relentless fucking pursuit.
Zach Batista (42:49):
That don't like no he's not fucking going
half-hearted at all at anythinghe's doing, just because some
may fall less on the prioritylist.
Brandon May (42:57):
No, I'm not money driven at all.
That he's doing Just becausesome may fall less on the
priority list doesn't mean thathe's approaching them with any
less vigor and living life tillit's fucking fullest.
Zach Peacock (43:09):
Like I say, I'll skate till I can't walk.
That's the quote of my life.
But if I ever woke up andskateboarding just wasn't fun or
it just got fucking boring orwhatever like stepping on the
skateboard didn't give me thatendorphin release that I that I
get I'd stop fucking doing it.
I'm not I'm not.
Zach Batista (43:25):
Yeah, that'd be the day.
Zach Peacock (43:26):
I'm not so tied into this shit at all.
I'm doing this because I wantto fucking do this.
I want to maintain a level ofphysique, I want to maintain a
level of trick selection, like,like, I want, I want this shit
yeah, he used to fucking.
Brandon May (43:42):
I used to struggle working here.
You know what I mean.
Me and brian used to butt heads.
We used to have our differences.
It was a different time.
We were different people atthat time and peacock would be
like he would look at me theshitty fucking look.
If you fucking hate it so much,why don't you just fucking
leave?
I tell everybody why don't youjust fucking leave?
I tell everybody, why don't youjust?
It's your fucking choice.
He's like I wouldn't fuckingshow up for this shit if I was
(44:04):
you, if I felt this way, yeah,yeah.
Zach Peacock (44:05):
If I got tired of tattooing tomorrow.
I love all my customers, but ifI was over tattooing tomorrow,
I'd go be a fucking filmmaker iffilming was more important.
I've never said no to anything.
I've always like I've like.
If it's like some suspect shit,then I'm like, ah, I might push
it out a little bit.
But even when you asked meabout this I was like, well fuck
, I've never been interviewed ona podcast.
Let's go fucking interviewRight, try it out.
Zach Batista (44:27):
This might be my favorite shit to do to talk to
people, and I would have neverfucking known that if I.
That's what we're finding outtoo, that we do like this and no
one's told to stop yet.
Zach Peacock (44:40):
That's why we keep going, and if they do tell you
to stop, fuck them.
Yeah, we do have that.
Fuck them back too.
That's what it's like.
Like I said, it's skateboarding.
I'm not doing this shit becauseI'm interested in what anybody
else thinks, like we're negative, shitty people, Like poor
ghetto kids.
Because skateboarding isobtainable.
You can get this thing fromyour friend.
(45:02):
All your friends can take allthe parts of their boards and
give you a loaner shitty assboard.
Like it's the poor kids thing todo is skateboarding.
Like if you snow, like JohnCardiel said, like if you you
have to be of means to get up on, like you have to have.
Like to be a snowboarder, youhave to have a car that can get
you up the hill.
You have to put gas in the car.
You have to have all the gearto keep you dry and comfortable.
(45:23):
You have to have, you have tobuy the snowboard.
You have to buy the boots, youhave to buy the lift ticket.
Zach Batista (45:28):
There's all these fucking A super expensive hobby.
Zach Peacock (45:36):
Yeah, there's all these like then you can go in
your front yard.
Brandon May (45:40):
Right, you don't need shit.
I got one of his skateboards.
Zach Peacock (45:42):
Right now I'm riding one of his old decks and
shit Well it's the same thingwhen you were telling me when
Miles was all getting into it.
It's like I went out and boughthim a fucking complete Yep.
Brandon May (45:50):
He still got it.
You feel me.
Zach Peacock (45:52):
Because I wanted like, if you're showing any
interest at all know whatskateboarding did for me.
So I'm gonna turn that shitaround all the kids at the skate
park.
One of our closest friends is.
He's like 21 years old.
This dude garza doesn't evenhave his paperwork.
He's illegal, like a legalhispanic kid does.
Anytime I see a pair of shoesthat are size nine, I just buy
the shoes because I know he'sfucking ripping.
(46:12):
He's an amazing skateboarderand it's like if I keep giving
him a pair of shoes, then that'sanother month that he gets to
skateboard.
Brandon May (46:19):
That's big homie shit too.
Zach Peacock (46:22):
It's just because I know he is fucking amazing and
he loves the shit and I seemyself in him and it's like if
somebody was doing that for methen I'd push 10 times harder.
Brandon May (46:30):
That's what I was going to ask.
There was nobody in your worldthat was big homie.
Zach Peacock (46:34):
No, my buddy, aaron, aaron Crowick, that dude.
If it wasn't for Aaron, Istarted skating for SRH clothing
, supporting Radical Habits.
I started skating for SRHclothing because that was
Aaron's favorite company, ohokay, and because I couldn't
give him money for him to driveus around.
He just did it.
He was just like the good dude.
He was the older guy, he hadhis shit together, he had a job,
(46:54):
he had a car, his parents hehad like loving parents that
were down to support him forwhatever the fuck he wanted to
do.
They give him the gas card whengas was 90 cents a gallon, you
know, like right.
And then they just be like yeah, fill the van up.
His parents have this minivan,and then we take the minivan, we
go skate all over southerncalifornia and then we bring the
car back stinking like sweat,fucking tires, bald, empty gas
(47:17):
tank.
They didn't give a fuck.
They're like oh, whatever.
If it wasn't for Aaron and hisparents, I would not be at the
level that I am at skateboardingand the love that I have for
skateboarding.
I probably still loveskateboarding, but, as Aaron
Kroc, if it wasn't for that dude, I wouldn't have shit like
skateboarding wise Because thatdude, like he wasn't driving us
around so I could be the bestskateboarder in the group.
(47:38):
He was driving us around becauseit was what we did on the
weekends.
Like we all hopped in thatstinky ass, astro van, and
whipped that shit all fucking.
We stayed at his house.
We ate all the food in hisfridge because I didn't have no
fucking food.
Pissed his parents off Sure,probably like pissed the bed or
did some wild shit you know likedidn't stunk up everything.
I didn't know any better whenthe skate videos would come out.
He had a job, he'd buy theskate videos.
(47:59):
We'd go to his house.
We'd have like a littlepremiere get together.
So when I was of, when I wascapable to get sponsored as
skateboarding, I went in.
The first company I sent asponsor me tape into was srh was
because I was going to pay this.
I was like I can't give thisdude money.
I can't do anything for thisdude that he doesn't already
have, but I can fill his closetwith shit that he loves.
Brandon May (48:20):
And so that's what I did.
Zach Peacock (48:21):
And I didn't have a car to get down to.
They were in Vista.
They'd send me stuff to thehouse, but if I went down to the
warehouse they'd let me, they'dgive me a big ass, the biggest
box you can get from Amazon.
I mean now it's Amazon, butback then it was just so people
have like some context.
It was massive cardboard boxand I go to the warehouse and
they tell me, whatever you canput in this thing you can take
home.
Oh shit.
(48:41):
So I'd fill this thing withthousands of dollars of clothing
and I'd bring him.
And then I just like he was, Ijust this is my ride, I'd kind
of play it off like that so theywouldn't think nothing.
And then I'd just be like don'tthe fucking box.
I'd be like what do you?
want Grab whatever the fuck youwant, throw it in the box.
Zach Batista (48:57):
I'll just say it's for me.
Brandon May (48:59):
I did that for years.
Zach Peacock (49:01):
There was no website to look at, to pick at.
I'd just be like they'd send meshit.
I'd be like yeah.
I wore a medium this month I'mchanging my shit up.
Brandon May (49:07):
That's like the dream.
And then I give it to Aaronright as a skateboarder, to get
sponsored and just Pillage, dude.
Yeah, that's tight.
Zach Peacock (49:18):
Any other last minute shout outs no, I mean,
I'm just thankful for everything.
Yeah, everybody in my life.
You fuckers know who you are.
Yeah, yeah.
Brandon May (49:25):
And I'm thankful for you giving this interview.
I really appreciate it.
This is one more chapter in ourrelationship as friends.
You know me, man, I'm alwaysgoing to have some new on the
horizon and we're gonna keeppushing for all the wild shit in
your life.
I've been, I've gotten thephone call and I've answered the
phone every fucking time he'scalled me definitely a resource
(49:47):
that I'll tap into when I'mabsolutely ready to lose my shit
, and you know he'd be comingsometimes.
Zach Peacock (49:54):
It's good sometimes it's not always the
answer you want, but it might bethe answer you need to hear.
Brandon May (50:00):
I got to be prepared to call Peacock on the
phone because he's going to be.
It's not always in my favor.
I'm a dick man and I might, Imight.
You might be like on the.
Zach Peacock (50:10):
I've had plenty of friends call me when there's
when they're on the edge of likebeing suicidal and shit, and
I'm just like don't be a fuckingbitch, don't do it Right, let's
go skate, let's go fuck off,let's go do it.
Like I'll come pick you up,we'll go do some shit, but
that's what they needed, likefour or five friends, and one of
the friends that called me allthe fucking time.
The time he didn't call me, hekilled himself.
Brandon May (50:29):
Damn.
Zach Peacock (50:30):
That's just how it is Like I was able, Except for
the time that he didn't call me.
He didn't reach out.
Yeah, I didn't call, I couldn't.
Brandon May (50:39):
You better, man, be careful in these streets.
I see you out there in Whittierdipping around like it's, you
know, corona, or?
Zach Peacock (50:43):
some shit.
I'm living my life.
I don't ride motorcyclesbecause they're safe.
I don't ride skateboardsbecause they're safe.
I don't run my fucking mouthbecause it's safe.
Brandon May (50:52):
Yeah, be careful out there.
Zach Batista (50:58):
I appreciate you two coming on the show, of
course.
Zach Peacock (51:01):
It's fun man.
Thank you so much, brother.
There'll be more.
Thank you.
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