July 8, 2025 • 44 mins
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đź“š Summary
In this conversation, Joanna Sanchez discusses the significance of self-acceptance and compassion in overcoming feelings of shame. She emphasizes the importance of acknowledging one's feelings and finding a supportive space to share these experiences, which can lead to emotional healing and personal growth.
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đź«€About Joanna
Joanna Sanchez a transformational guide for women who have already walked the path of mindset work, therapy, and personal growth and are now ready to descend from the mind into the body. She holds space with reverence, and deep devotion, inviting women to remember their innate feminine wisdom, find safety in their body, and come home to themselves through deep embodiment.
Her guidance is not surface-level; it’s cellular and deeply transformative. She walks women through the shadows of body shame, fear, and emotional contraction with safety and compassion. Through Wildly Devoted Embodiment Academy, retreats, women circles, and 1:1 coaching, she helps women heal not just their thoughts, but their nervous systems, their wombs, their expression, and their relationships.
She weaves together ceremonial work, somatic healing, sensuality, and grounded action to support women in making new courageous choices that actually reflect who they are within... NOT who the world told them they needed to me.
She is the kind of guide who says, “I see your true self—and I also see where you’re still playing small. Let’s liberate that….”
She also teaches women how to access God not just in prayer, but in their hips, their voice, their tears, their rage, and the union of their inner masculine & feminine energies.
🤓 Takeaways
- Love sharing the codes of grace and compassion for self.
- Everything happens exactly as it's meant to.
- Finding acceptance is crucial for emotional healing.
- It's okay to not love yourself right now.
- Accept the parts of you that you don't like.
- Shame loves to hide in the dark.
- Talking about shame is significant for healing.
- Having someone to share your experiences with is important.
- Awareness of the shame we hold is the first step.
- Creating a supportive environment fosters growth.
⌛ Chapters
00:00 Dope Offers for You
01:22 Joanna Sanchez: A Journey of Self-Discovery
09:30 The Importance of Being in Your Body
10:56 Embodiment and Connection to Self
12:41 The Journey of Intuition and Truth
14:31 Feminine Embodiment vs. Linear Living
16:26 Understanding Disembodiment
20:06 Navigating Inner Noise and Distortion
22:43 Meeting Yourself Where You Are
28:25 Acceptance and Grace in the Journey
34:33 The Ongoing Practice of Embodiment
44:22 Outro
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Woohoo on this episode of Babe Philosophy the.
First step for a woman that's feeling ashamed and maybe
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disconnected is just fine. Acceptance.
Just be like you know what? I accept that maybe I don't love
myself right now, and I accept that there is parts of me that I
don't like and I accept the shame.
Shame loves to hide in the dark too.
So by having somebody to talk about this with is so important.
Having somebody where you can belike, I've been experiencing
(01:48):
shame because of this. I've been experiencing this kind
of shame. That's actually something that I
do inside of my Academy, like really becoming aware of the
shame that we're holding on to. This is Babe philosophy.
Podcast where questions matter more than answers, where liminal
spaces are revered, and where magic is practical.
(02:08):
We are your hosts, Melly Wolf, and live wickedly.
Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Welcome to Babe Philosophy with Liv and the gorgeous Melee
(02:34):
Melee, Melee, melee, melee. It's all your Mama.
That was awesome. I'm dying right now because Liv
is wearing these outrageous sunglasses and just like
everything she does is cracking me up, even if it's not funny,
just because she has these fucking sunglasses on.
God damn. It was one of those sunglasses
inside kind of vibes, you know? Does anybody have those?
(02:58):
I do. Definitely OK anyways we are so
excited today because we have miss Joanna Sanchez with us who
funnily enough Liv has met in the past and I met Joanna
recently out in Boulder, Co and thought she was just the dopest
(03:19):
chick and we had to have her on the pod cuz she does some cool
stuff. Joanna, tell us about yourself.
Who are you? Hi, well, First off, I have been
trying to just recollect my memory on like how I know Liv.
So I like I know I followed you for a while and like connected
(03:39):
on Instagram and then I just I don't remember.
I have like memory problems I feel like.
I dude, I have a very vague similar kind of memory.
Mellie was just like, I met thiswoman she's great, would love to
have her on the pod. And I was like, I vaguely
remember running into her at some point following each other
on Instagram and than just loving her.
And now I just have this abidinglove.
(04:01):
So we'll just leave it at that. Yeah, we'll just leave it at
that. That's great.
I'm so. Happy that we're.
Here our souls were meant to collide again in some way.
I love it. I can fuck.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you so much, Mellie for bringing me on.
And just I love what you ladies are doing.
I read the e-book that you ladies have and I was just like,
(04:22):
this is so beautiful because it just, I feel like it brings in
so much of like the spiritualityand stuff, but it also has like
this fine, like babe type of twist thing.
You know what I mean? Like the pink, hot pink and
everything that you ladies are doing.
I yeah, it has a special place in my heart.
And I just started to kind of connect to this podcast.
So I feel deeply honored and so grateful to be here and to be
(04:46):
able to share with your listeners.
I really do feel like this, thisthing you guys are creating is
gonna be big. And so like, I feel it.
Like I just feel the vastness ofit.
I feel the intention that you ladies are putting into it.
And so, yeah, like I said, I'm really grateful to be here.
So my name is Joanna, and this is always so fun because I feel
(05:07):
like there's so many iterations of me.
Like every podcast that I go into, it's like, what's your
what? Introduce yourself.
I'm like, OK, we'll see what comes out today.
But yeah, I am the soul in this earth that has always felt like
I have a mission. Ever since I was like even five
years old. I just felt this like deep
knowing that I was here for something.
(05:30):
And I always just let it let that kind of guide me.
And it kind of played out into thinking that I was going to be
a doctor, right? That I was going to help people
through helping them heal in that way.
And then realized like, I didn'tlike school in the ways that I
thought I was going to like school.
I liked elementary school and middle school, high school.
(05:50):
But then I got to college and I started taking all these classes
and I was like, I don't want to take this shit.
This is not worth it to me. And so I found, I found personal
training during that time, foundpersonal training during that
time. And I was like, like, it just
happened so randomly. I went to this Crunch gym
because I was getting into bodybuilding and I was like
promoting these supplements at this gym.
(06:12):
And the guy at the gym was like,hey, do you want to be a
personal trainer? You look the part.
And I was like, I've never done that.
So yeah, why not? It's like, we'll train you.
OK. So I started just like doing
personal training and I started to connect so deep with my
clients, and it just brought this deep passion to support
people. And so that started with the
(06:32):
physical body and the health. And so I changed my major
exercise science after that was working corporate.
And I was like, fuck this. What the fuck is this life?
Why did I get my degree? I'm not meant to be in this
place. I had so much anxiety.
I was like, I need to get the fuck out.
A lot of traction. I was like, oh, my thoughts
create my reality. I can change this.
Yeah. And I was like, let me hire.
(06:54):
A mentor, I was reading books about like hire a mentor if you
want support. I was like, OK, so I hired a
mentor, got out of that corporate job, started my
fitness coaching business. And I did that for, I feel like
it was like 5 or 6 years. And then I went deep into my
spiritual journey and I just like, yeah, there's so much that
we can go into with that. But Long story short, I started
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to realize that I had a lot of chaos in my mind and I was
finding myself in anxiety and depression.
I was always chasing him. So deep in my mask I had no idea
what the fuck my feminine was. I was just like go go, go.
I need to make sure that I survived so I don't live in
poverty like I did in my childhood.
Just need to keep going. And so then that got me to a
(07:37):
place where like my health was really bad.
My hair was falling out, my hormones were all flatlined.
And yeah, that just took me downa path where I was like, OK, I
need support. So I did therapy for two years,
and that was so good for my awareness.
And then I was like, I feel likethere's more than just what I'm
learning here. Like, I'm coming here every
(07:58):
week. We're doing hypnotherapy.
I'm talking about the stuff. But like, I still feel so
disconnected from my body. I still feel so like, tight and
tense and rigid. I feel like I'm not living the
life that I want to live. Like there has to be something
more. And that's when I found feminine
embodiment and I went down that path and I was like, holy moly.
(08:19):
And I'm sure we can get more into like what that means, but
just creating safety in my body,connecting to who I am as a
woman, connecting to my womb after six years of not even
having a cycle and like coming back to my femininity and my
cyclical nature. And just like this whole world
started to open up for me. And so I decided to switch my
business from just fitness coaching and supporting people
(08:40):
with the physical aspect to supporting them with the
emotional and energetic too. And that's what I do now and
it's amazing. I'm so happy.
I feel so fulfilled, purposeful,and like I'm willing to do
whatever the fuck it takes to get this just this like
embodiment revolution that I feel so deeply connected to, to
get it out there. So I'm excited to share more
about that. But yeah, that's a little,
(09:01):
that's in a nutshell. That's what decided to come out
tonight. Amazing.
I love it because I resonated somuch with and this is something
I remember thinking when I firstmet you, Joanna.
It's like I resonated so much with your story because I kind
of had a similar trajectory. And in my lived experience of
doing bodybuilding and getting really into fitness, and then
(09:24):
realizing that like even though I was doing all this stuff with
my body, I was just totally disconnected from it.
And that leads to this beautifultopic for today, which is the
question of, is it bad to be disconnected from my body?
And I feel like Joanna's such a great person to talk to us about
(09:45):
this, given the work that she does in the path that she's been
on. And yeah, I would love it,
Joanna, if you'd just kind of give us a little bit of a kind
of understanding or a summary of, like, what does it even mean
to be in your body? Like what does that even mean?
Such a good question. Yeah.
So First off, for anyone listening, it's not a bad thing
(10:06):
to be disconnected from your body.
I don't think we need to shame ourselves if we're not connected
to our body. If anything, we can look at it
and be like, Oh my gosh, I want to experience more aliveness.
I want to experience more joy, more happiness in my life.
I want to feel more connectedness to myself.
And so the fact that I'm not connected to my body is actually
a sign that I get to go into it and create what I want, create
(10:26):
how I want to feel. And so yeah, there's never, I
always preface everything with like this is not to shame
anyone. This is just to bring awareness
because almost everyone has experienced some level of
disembodiment. And so embodiment and living in
your body, what it means is to inhabit yourself fully through
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all dimensions. So we have physical, mental,
energetic and emotional and all of these bodies come together.
And so we know most women start first with like the physical
body and creating health. And then maybe we go into
mindset mental, but a lot of us have been disconnected from our
emotional or energetic. And so when we can feel
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ourselves through every dimension of our being and we
can connect to the language of what the different bodies are
sharing with us, we have a deeper awareness of ourselves.
And so to me, what it feels, what it, what I, what it means
that we're not, you know, tryingto sugarcoat it, it means to
allow your soul to fully inhabitevery bit of you.
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And so then that's, that looks like having, when you're
speaking, it's coming from a place of your soul's essence.
When you're moving through life,it's coming from a place of your
soul's essence. And it's also the ability to be
able to see, to tell what is distortion from the past versus
what is my actual truth. Because when we have that
awareness, then we can start living a life where it's like,
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oh shit, my truth is telling me to make this crazy decision in
my life. And although my illusions and
my, my mental body might be bringing up fear, I can feel
energetically, I can feel my soul, I can feel my emotions, my
emotional guidance system guiding me to this decision,
even if it doesn't make any logical sense.
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And so I'm going to follow that.And that's what a lot of people
are afraid of is to follow the flow of where your intuition is
taking you. Because they're so heavily,
especially a lot of women nowadays are so heavily in the
mental body that they're listening to this and they're
not connecting to their womb andtheir hearts and what that is
actually telling them to, to do and how to move forward in life.
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So that's a little synopsis on that.
That was excellent. And I, I even want to say like
the way you presented that I actually haven't.
And this is a hilarious gap to me.
Now that you've pointed this out, the way that you put that
you named all the bodies and that being in the body is being
at that like center point where every, everything's converging
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and you're experiencing all of you, right?
And then you're coming from yoursoul's essence, no matter what's
happening. And I'm like, Oh yeah, brain
like that just locked in something for me to hear it put
like that. I, I, I always use the term like
alignment, but then that comes with like in my own mind's
visualization like this very like up and down linear, like
this is the way to be that. But when you were talking about
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like the fullness, I felt if this makes any sense, more like
horizontal expansion. Like I can take up space, like I
can be big. And that's a big thing that
Mellie and I are, are always talking about is the the too
much thing, right? Like being too much.
And I really feel like I was hearing that.
And what you're saying is like alot of what the brain comes up
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with or like what our bodies arelike tuned into and our
reactions and our triggers are the, the contractions of, oh,
this is too much. If I do this, XYZ will happen.
And it's always like fear based and it's reinforced negatively.
And, you know, and then that's where you're talking about when
we get in check with where we are now, is that a distortion or
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is that my real truth? I just, yes, I really appreciate
your perspective on this. And I'm excited to have a
different lens on embodiment because I think I've just, I've
been doing the same thing over and over again.
And it's, you know, that just, it runs out, runs out at some
point. And so I like this idea of like
taking up the horizontal space, you know, being a big bitch, if
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you will. Big bitch energy.
Let's go. Bitch energy BBE.
But it's like, it's what I'm hearing.
It's like instead of living a linear life, right?
That's why what I do is called feminine embodiment.
It's like we're living a non linear life, right?
And even though we are living a non linear life, that does not
mean you're still not using the masculine.
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It's you go into the body first,into your feminine depth first,
your feminine passion first. Like that is the priority,
right? That that fire inside of you and
then you infuse that with, OK, logically, how am I going to
make this happen in this 3D reality?
How am I actually going to put the steps and take the action to
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bring this feminine passion forward into my life and what I
want to create? I love this and you know, it's
making me think of something that Liv and I talked about.
I've talked about quite a lot onthis on this podcast and we
talked about it more in the beginning, less so more
recently. But we talked about taking a
bottom up versus a top down approach to the world.
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And that like the and you just made the through people that
aren't watching and they're listening.
Joanna just like made this motion from like the bottom up
through her throat and up to herhead.
And that is something that I think is so powerful is like
leading with your your bottom upfrom from the inside.
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And then like, I love the way you put it, just like
rationalizing that and how to actualize that in the, you know,
material world instead of absorbing everything from the
outside, from the top through the head and down into the body.
But I would love to hear your and I just kind of summarized
what Liv and I spoke of when, when we speak of the top down
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versus bottom up approach. But I'd love for you to kind of
just explain for the people thataren't getting it, like what is
disembodiment then? So if we if we know what
embodiment is now, what is it tobe disembodied?
Great question. Really.
Yes. Beautiful question.
So to be disembodied, it's talking about what we just
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shared, like living so in this linear motion, right?
Living your life based on what you think you need to do, based
on what people have told you that you need to do and be in
order to quote, be successful, be liked, be loved, all of that
stuff, right? And so when you're living in a
disembodied state, it's that you're not really, it's, it's
(16:59):
the top down method, right? Like, it's like you're living
from the external world. What is the external noise
teaching me and telling me? And I'm going to use that to
dictate what I do in my life, right.
Rather than when you're embodiedor, you know, an embodiment.
I also want to for the, for the listeners, embodiment is not
like a destination. Embodiment is not a destination.
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It's an ever unfolding journey. You will continue to embody more
and more and more of who you are.
It's not like, oh, I'm just embodied and I'm not, you know,
so just wanted to put that out there.
But yeah, when you're in a stateof disembodiment, some ways that
you can tell is where you know it's hard for you to sit still,
right? It's hard for you to have
stillness with yourself and connect with yourself without
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always thinking about the To Do List or feeling guilty of
feeling still being still, right?
Another sign of disembodiment isseeking for external pleasures,
finding yourself in this state of overconsumption.
Maybe it's like overly scrollingor maybe using food as like a
pleasure seeking tool. That was what I dealt with.
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I dealt with a lot of emotional eating and binge eating and I
didn't realize it was just because I was disconnected from
the pleasure in my body, right. So embodiment teaches you how to
activate that pleasure from within and then that's an
automatic shift in your behaviorthat I didn't stop emotionally
eating just because I was like, I'm gonna stop emotionally
eating. It just happened as I started to
deepen and descend into my body and like really feel my
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connection to her. I was like, oh, wow.
Like I have pleasure in here. I don't need to search for it
externally. And I was also like a heavy
drinker on the weekends, always seeking for pleasure externally.
And I see that also translate inthe way women behave in the
world is, you know, what is the next quick hit of pleasure I can
get because I'm so disconnected from my pleasure.
And they don't even know that unconscious.
So that's another sign of disembodiment.
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Another sign is just like, you know, I'm, I'm currently working
with this woman. She's such a beautiful soul, but
she says it. She's like, I have just lived my
whole life based on A + B = C and like everything has to have
a step by step. Like it's linear, right?
We talked about that. So it's like it's this linear
fashion living and the inabilityto kind of just like rest and
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surrender to the flow of what God source essence wants to
create through you, right? So disembodiment almost, you
know, if people are more unlike the have heard these concepts of
like ego versus soul, I guess disembodiment you can kind of
put it with the label of living more of like this ego based
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living, which is rooted in illusion.
It's rooted in past trauma, it'srooted in emotional baggage.
It's rooted in core beliefs thatyou created as a child.
And then embodiment is more of like soul living where it's
like, oh, I can witness that there's these parts of myself
that come up. There's this loud voice in my
head. There's this ego construct
that's happening, but I'm, I've turned up the volume of my inner
(19:56):
world so much that and I can listen to that and kind of shut
this little voice down a little more and live my life from that
place so. Yeah, you're doing, yeah, you're
doing such a beautiful job of like putting these things in
frames. One of the things that we really
are trying to do with Babe philosophy is like take these
esoteric and imperial concepts and make them fucking human so
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people can use them and not leaving them this like niche
elite thing or weird woo woo thing like this thing off to the
side. Because really what we're
talking about is like how to be human.
Like actually functionally, how to be a human.
You've said something here that I think, you know, I have.
I'm just, like, getting a grip on, OK?
Even Mellie and I were talking about, like, talking about the
food. Like, she and I have had a week.
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We just noticed, like, as we're moving through these, like,
transformations in these expansion phases in our life
where we've said yes to something big and we've listened
to the tiny voice in us that tells us to do the crazy fucking
thing. Every time we go that direction,
there's some kind of initiation somewhere that comes for us at
some point. And we've watched each other go
through multiple iterations, theovereating and, and the binge
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cheating definitely comes up. We both have our little voices
that like, want us to do substances or used to want us to
like create drama and issues in our relationships instead of
just sitting in the discomfort, you know, all of these like
little things that you do. And I feel like in my
experience, and I don't want to like say what Mellie's
experience is, I just feel like I'm also witnessing this in her.
(21:26):
We're like finally getting to this place where we like have
all this grace and we can kind of like step back and see what's
happening and kind of like hold more of it and like mother
ourselves more and like see it in each other and be softer
about it. However, it did not start like
that, right? Especially if you're like
running your masculine. It was like a I'm going to beat
myself with a stick because I know better and I'm not doing
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better. How dare I collapse into binge
eating. I know binge eating is bad.
It's going to make me fat. I'm so bloated now.
And then I would get into this like thing where it's like,
well, I already did it so fuck it.
Like I ruined the diet. I ruined the workout plan.
So like may as well just go hardin the paint.
So now I'm going to be binge eating for days on end until
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like I feel like I need to throwup and food makes me feel sick.
Yep, I'm I'm kind of intense andI'm sure there are other women
out there who do similar things.So I think what I would love to
hear your perspective on is how do we know when we're in our
like getting into our embodiment?
Like what voice do we trust? Do we trust all of them?
(22:31):
Like how do I, when I drop in here and it's like noisy as
hell, what do I do? Who do I listen to?
How do I know I'm actually like listening to my essence and not
just continuing to repeat the programming?
Yeah, wow. Yeah.
I mean, that in itself, even formyself, I'm still navigating,
you know, it's an ever unfoldingjourney of like, whoa,
(22:53):
especially when you have a trigger that's like coming up a
catalyst that life shows you. I follow this this guy and he
talks about like life lessons being catalysts, right?
And when those catalysts arise, those are they could be
initiations, right? Like deep initiations and shit
gets so loud that you're like, Ican't even understand what's
going on. Like for me, for instance, I
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have a lot of relational trauma that I'm healing in this current
relationship that I'm in. And so, you know, when it comes
to like my business and my purpose and like things that
I've already gone through the initiatory process, like money,
for instance, I can hear my intuition.
But when it comes to relationship shit, I'm still
learning how to navigate like, Oh my God, what the fuck is
this? What is not it, blah, blah,
(23:35):
blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, So my heart goes to
all of us because we all deal with the noise that exists
within. And this isn't about perfection.
It's just about continuously walking the path to do the best
that you can at listening for what that voice is.
So one thing that really helps me, that is very beneficial for
(23:57):
me and for my clients as well isjust like getting into the body
as much as possible when you arein a state of dysregulation,
taking yourself to a devotional space.
This is what I, what I, what I do.
I have a devotional space, whether it's in my little living
room or in my room where I just go there to meet myself, to be
with myself, right? And so when things just get
(24:17):
really loud really all over the place, I just allow myself to be
with that and to fully feel because typically when it's like
a distortion like that that's arising, that when it gets
really loud is because that partof you is just asking to be met,
right? So can we meet that part?
Can we welcome it? Can we accept it?
Can we love it? Let's not resist the noise.
Let's lean into the noise because beneath the noise is the
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silence that we're looking for, right?
And so can I meet that noise? Can I meet the distortion?
Can I meet? OK, How does this want to
express right now? Oh, it's chaos in my mind.
OK, I'm going to shake my freaking head.
I'm going to shake my body. I'm going to make noise.
Like, how does this want to likeexpress through my voice?
OK, I'm freaking overwhelmed. Like this morning I went to the
gym and on my way back I was just like feeling like so much
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like rage. Like, oh, am I feeling so rage?
I was like, you know what? I don't need to know why, I just
am feeling it and it's like feels heavy.
So I'm just gonna freaking scream in my car and I just
started screaming. Then after that I felt so much
better and so much lighter. So that's like, that is my
biggest piece of advice is just like, take yourself there to
that space where you can just meet that part, breathe into it.
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Move your body's circular movements as healing is healing
energy. When you do like circular
movements with your body, it brings healing to those parts.
Notice where is that living in my body?
Is it in my head? Is the noise in my head?
Maybe I'm feeling contraction inmy tummy.
Maybe I'm feeling like tension in my shoulders.
Let me move this part. Let me, let me continue to just
like meet it with my breath, with my movement, with my sound,
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with my awareness, and then see what happens and see what's
beneath there. See what, what is actually
living beneath that. Because typically if it's rage,
then beneath that there's going to be sadness.
And then beneath that you're going to tap the tenderness of
yourself, the tenderness of yourheart.
And then beneath that you're going to find your truth.
So it's a cool part about embodiment is that our truth is
always living inside of us. Sometimes we just have to
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maneuver and move our way into it through the discomfort.
So I'm loving all of the frames that you're putting this in
because so juicy concepts, yeah,they're so juicy.
And these are all concepts that Liv and I talk about all the
time. But but Liv and I have our like
established like lexicon and like rhetoric for how we
describe these things. And it's fun to have like
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somebody put these same conceptsin different words.
And it just like it's it's great.
It's fucking awesome feel. Like we're all trying to do the
same thing with different ways of doing it.
Yeah, yeah, yes. Surprising right now for sure.
It's so. Necessary though, yeah.
Yeah. So to bring it a little bit like
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back to the question, because I feel like now we have a really
good understanding of like, OK, what does embodiment?
What does disembody meant? Like how do I get into my body?
And then the question really is like, is it bad to be
disconnected from your body? And I'd, and you spoke to it a
little bit in the beginning of the episode, Joanna.
But I feel like, you know, if I go back to a younger version of
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myself, right? And I'm kind of like listening
to this stuff and maybe I'm feeling a little resentful.
Maybe I'm feeling a little bit like defensive.
Maybe I'm like, I don't know, like this all seems weird, like.
But then underneath it, like I think that that's coming from a
place of knowing on some level that I am disconnected from my
body and feeling shame about it.So I'd love to like stop for a
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second and just talk to that girl and, and speak her
language. Cuz I feel like all of this is
really beautiful and all of thisis really powerful.
But I think it's for the woman who's disconnected from her
body, you know, it almost feels like too much maybe, or it
almost feels like overwhelming or, or just impossible or like a
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concept that just seems so bizarre.
And maybe she's feeling shame about not being feminine and
flowy and doing circles with herbody, you know, like, I would
love to just speak to her and ifand like, what would you say to
her? And obviously, like, if she
doesn't want the help, she doesn't want the help.
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But if she does, like, where canshe start?
What can she do? Yeah, beautiful way of putting
that. And just like rounding it back
in. Slam the questions today, girl.
Slam them. Thank you SO.
OK, this is, This is so good 'cause it makes me think outside
of the box too. So when I think of that, I think
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of like the versions of ourselves maybe that we're like
in bodybuilding, we're kind of just like.
So. Into like that right yeah like
that girl right yes yes. So the, the path to embodiment,
I feel like in the beginning stages, you do have to bring the
mind, like you have to go into the mind first, into the mental
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1st. And So what that means is like
for anyone that's just wanting to start off, I mean, for me,
having a therapist helped me. For me, having a mentor that was
a little bit more focused on themental helped because I needed
that to soften first before I can soften into my body, right?
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I needed those paradigms and like my, my concepts of what
life was to shift first before Ifelt safe enough to be like, oh,
yeah, this makes sense. Like creating safety in my body,
all of that. So that's one way is going
through the mind first, becomingaware of like, oh, wow.
Like there is a lot of thoughts in here and there is a lot of
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anxiety and depression and you know, these things.
And maybe there is shame associated with that.
But the biggest thing, the firststep I feel like is just on a
mental level, accepting, just accepting where you're at,
accepting that you are in this place that feels uncomfortable,
accepting that everything in life that has happened up until
this point was exactly what you needed, exactly what you needed.
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I, I come from a place I truly, deeply love sharing the codes of
like grace and compassion for solve.
I also live my life with this belief that everything happens
exactly as it's meant to, that there is nothing happening in
any other way than that. And that has just allowed me to
find so much acceptance for myself.
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So the first step for a woman that's feeling ashamed and maybe
disconnected and just like thinking back to like that
version is that it's just fine. Acceptance.
Just be like, you know what? I accept.
I accept that maybe I don't lovemyself right now and I accept
that there is parts of me that Idon't like and I accept the
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shame. Shame loves to hide in the dark
too. So by having somebody to talk
about this with is so important.I believe so significant, right?
Having somebody where you can belike, I've been experiencing
shame because of this. I've been experiencing this kind
of shame. That's actually something that I
do inside of my Academy. That's the first one of the
that's like the second module that we do is like really
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becoming aware of the shame thatwe're holding onto, right?
Like there's been so much that we've been conditioned to, we
feel ashamed of within ourselves.
We feel ashamed of our voice, feel ashamed of our bigness, of
our too muchness, of our expression.
And so I believe the first step for a woman like that is to seek
support and find acceptance for where you're at.
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Knowing that where you're at right now doesn't mean you're
going to always stay there. It just means that it's part of
your puzzle, part of your soul'sevolution, part of what you came
here to learn. So yeah, more on the mental
level. In order to get into the body,
we have to work on this first. Yeah, I love that.
I think that's a really good reminder because there's so many
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messages, right, about like, embodiment, get into your body,
get out of your head, like feel yourself, right.
And then I think it's actually really counterproductive for the
woman who's totally in her head to be like, you know, like Liv
was saying, like beating her, beating herself with a stick,
like demanding herself to get into her body.
Like it doesn't work that way. That's not, that's not the route
that we're gonna take, right? It's like you have to allow
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yourself, if you're really caught up in your mind, like
you're not gonna find embodimentby, you know, torturing yourself
into it. You're gonna have to really just
allow yourself to be in your mind and say it's OK.
And and and yeah, that grace, that grace, the codes of grace.
I fucking love that. Yeah, I also really love in how
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you framed that. It actually really tied into
what you were talking about in, you know, when you get to the
point that you like have your devotional space and you can
circle your body. You said you kept saying meet
yourself, meet yourself, meet yourself.
And your advice right there was meet yourself where you are.
And if where you are is a very mental creature like you plan
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out your day in your head, you wake up, you're going through
your To Do List. You're managing a bunch of
different things. Like if you know that your mind
is a strength of yours, it's what got you here.
Meeting yourself where you are would be meeting yourself in
your mind. And it was, it actually brought
me back to like when I was superashamed of my body and like so
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ashamed I wouldn't even wear a bathing suit around other women
kind of ashamed. And I just remember bringing
that awareness to how I was speaking to myself just like
right off the RIP. Just that practice in and of
itself was so eye opening and like it changed me to like
actually hear and go, Oh my God,I hear these things in my head.
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I wasn't paying attention before.
And then I'm like, well, who's saying that?
It's my mind, I'm saying it, it's me.
I'm saying this to myself. Oh my God.
And then like the shame that came with that and being like,
oh, I'm talking to myself reallyshitty.
I feel a lot of shame around that.
And then and then acknowledging the shame gave me the
opportunity to grieve that to actually be like this is
terrible. Like I shouldn't have to feel
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like this. Why do I talk to myself like
this? Where did I get this from?
And then it just kind of it justkind of snowballs.
I when I was doing my one-on-onecoaching practice, I used to
tell women this all the time, which is like, I hope a bastion
of hope. If you're like this feels
overwhelming. And I feel like I could start
with my mind, but how long is itgoing to take me?
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I remember telling people as soon as you open the store, you
can't close it. Like as soon as you choose to
make this shift, there's no going backward.
Like it's that Matrix red pill, blue pill.
Once you take that pill, you're you're in it.
Like there's no going backward. You're not going to get plugged
back in. So don't worry about how long
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it's going to take you the second you choose.
OK, I'm going to figure out how to become embodied.
I have no fucking clue what thatmeans and how to do it, but I
believe there's more for me. So I'm gonna give it a shot.
As soon as you make that choice,like you're in ceremony and then
you're in ceremony for fucking life.
Like you. You did it like you're, you're
in it. Yeah.
So just like some encouragement and not from a fear place, not
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from like a you're committed nowand it's never gonna end, but
more just like this place of like one step at a time and one
step at a time and one step at atime and one fucking step at a
time over and over and over again.
Yeah. And like, I feel like all three
of us are here just saying like,that is what it is.
And it's a practice. Like we're just, we're always
practicing, just constantly practicing.
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And it's just a way that we liveour life and it keeps things
flowing and it keeps our hips incircles instead of jagged lefts
and rights. And it's it's a, it's a good
thing. It's a good thing.
Yeah. Thank you for just the way you
framed all of this. It's beautiful.
Yeah, seriously. Yeah, I.
Always like I like the women that I work with are the women
that have done that mental work,you know, that have like done
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the mindset work, have found some kind of awareness and some
kind of like freedom and that, but are like, oh shit, I'm ready
for more now. You know, 'cause like you said,
it's just one step at a time, one step at a time, one step at
a time. So embodiment is for that woman
that has already taken those steps, have met herself where
she's at. She's had maybe some support
with personal development. Maybe she's listened to the
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podcast, she's reading the book,she's doing all this stuff, but
she's like, whoa, like it's a felt experience.
Like the woman that comes to me,like I just feel like this is my
next step. Like this connection to my body,
this connection to my feminine because I've mastered, you know,
typically it goes from like hypermasculine where it it hurt
them to then connecting more to the mind in a healthier way.
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And then I believe the masculinethen like that masculine
connection to the mind then supports the descent into the
feminine and into the body. Yeah, I believe that.
Yeah, it does. It does take steps, right.
It's like, you know, I personally believe this too,
that like, if somebody's never done the work and they go to an
ayahuasca ceremony, like, what the fuck's gonna happen?
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You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, that's my, my perspective on that is like you
can't just throw yourself into something without meeting
yourself 1st and titrating your nervous system into something
that's a little less like it's aword I'm looking for, like less
initiatory, you know, like it's baby steps is what I'm trying to
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get out baby steps. Yeah, I'm also thinking of like
when Liv and I, our path has been really like parallel in, in
the past couple years and last year, like a year and a half ago
we went or like a year, I don't know how long, a year and a half
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ago we went through a breakup year.
A year ago we went through really hard breakups and we were
just like, so in our heads aboutit, it was like what, what?
Like just constantly like what could we have done?
How could we have been better? Oh my God, I hate him.
How could he have done better? You know, just head, head, head,
head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, like so much
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head. And then as we started to like
reclaim ourselves a little bit, what actually happened 1st?
And you're making me think of this right now, Joanne.
And I'm like kind of putting thedots together is like, like I
always used to joke that like I'm we, we daddy, we called it
daddy ourselves. Like we daddied ourselves.
We got into our masculine in a way that felt containing.
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We got into our masculine in a way that was like, I can take
care of me, I'm safe with me, I'm strong enough, I can think
my way through things, I can make enough money for myself.
Like we got really masculine, but it was very empowering
because we were containing ourselves.
It was like we were daddying ourselves.
We were being our own, like sugar daddies, you know, and
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giving ourselves what we needed with our minds.
And then from that point on, we started to drop into our
feminine. We started to drop into the
embodiment. We started to drop into the
emoting, the moving, the feeling.
And like, that's where we've been for the past year is like
really exploring that. And on this journey of like,
what you're talking about, this feminine embodiment.
And I'm really now realizing that like we got there through
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daddy ING ourselves and being the masculine for ourselves.
Yeah. Yeah, like the masculine created
the pathway, kind of created thedirection into then the
feminine. And then I find also that it's
like mind to body, masculine to feminine.
And then at least in my personaljourney and like from women that
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I've spoken to, it's like then once like the feminine feels
like, oh wow. Like we are really connecting,
we are feeling, we're emoting, like you said.
Then all these other like mentalconstructs start to make more
sense. Like, at least for me, for
instance, like learning manifestation from a place of
embodiment, not from a place of just like my mind.
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So what I'm saying is like, I feel like it's like mind to body
and then the body feeds the mind, right?
It's like this beautiful journeythat I've, I've just noticed
within myself and kind of like what you're sharing as well.
It's like then we have to bring that feminine depth back to the
mind in a new way. And then they're both working
together in union, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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That's totally how Babe philosophy was born and it's how
we have to do it. Literally.
We tried to script ourselves to record a little AD for our
grimoire and it is the most uncomfortable, stilted, grody
thing I've ever seen either of us do.
And we literally just re recorded it before this podcast
because we were like, I don't think we can be scripted.
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I think we need to just let whatcomes up comes up because this
whole thing is just inspired action.
So again, like, like what we said, once you open that door,
you ain't going back, baby. Just keep getting one step at a
time. Keep your phone going the way
that. You thought you needed to do
them and you're like wait, what the fuck doesn't?
Feel. Right.
Wait, this is not fucking working at all.
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This is terrible. Why was I doing it like this
before? What the hell?
Well, it's funny, I did. Listen to that.
I listened to the to the. It's the one that's on the
website, right? Yeah, for yeah, right now, the
one that's the last, the one that's gone out the last couple
episodes is the the it's scripted.
It's less scripted than the first time we recorded, but it's
still scripted. Not the intro to our episode,
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but the but it's a grimoire. Not the grim.
The intro to our episode, it's the the ad.
Grimoire. Yeah, the.
Book that's. The one, isn't it The one when
you download the e-book, you have it on there, you can see
it, you can hear it. Well, maybe I.
Don't know I. Was just going to say, well,
I've listened to that, it soundsgreat.
So this is my perspective on it.Oh my.
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God, it's so good. OK, well, thank you so much,
Joanna, for coming on. This was fucking incredible.
I feel like it just kind of tiedeverything together so
beautifully. And you are clearly such a gift
to this work. And I'm so excited.
I mean, on my mind, I'm like imagining.
I'm like, Oh my God. When we to do a Bay Philosophy
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retreat, we have to have Joanna come and do an embossment
workshop. That'd be so fucking.
Cool, I would still be there. Yeah, amazing.
OK, Well, I would love if you could tell our listeners where
they can find you and know more about you and work with you,
etcetera. Yay.
Yeah, so right now I'm on Instagram at I am Joanna
(42:28):
Sanchez. Joanna Sanchez with AZ at the
end and same thing TikTok. I'm getting started on YouTube.
I'm actually moving a lot of my energy and focus onto YouTube.
I really feel more connected to longer form type of content.
And so you'll find me there started doing some shorts short
stuff there. But yeah, I am Joanna Sanchez on
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all platforms. I have a podcast also called the
I'm moving through it podcast and we'll, we'll connect to you
about bringing you ladies on there.
And yeah, on Instagram you can find in my link, I have a
retreat coming up, which is in Sedona and I'm really excited
about that. And then I also have an Academy
for women that are, have alreadydone the mental work, personal
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development work and are seekingthat deeper part in connection
to their body and their feminine.
I have an Academy that's a 13 week school that supports a
woman from getting everything wejust talked about into the body,
creating safety sensitivity in her body, learning how to
liberate emotions in a powerful way without getting too sucked
into them, and then expanding like her magnetism, her
pleasure, and living life from that that place.
So you can find those on Instagram.
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Oh my God. Yes, Queen.
Yes, thank. You for being.
Out here and doing this fucking thing, I can tell you're so in
your gift. You found your mission, dude,
and you're fucking living it andit's beautiful.
And thank you for sharing. Seriously, thank you.
Thank you so much. Thank you for this.
I'm so happy that we get to Co create together and just like
share this medicine and this wisdom with so many powerful
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babes out there. Yeah.
Fucking fuck it up. Yes, all right, listeners, well,
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Let us know if you're in your head or your heart or your body
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What is up babes? We are super excited.
We have something super special for you that we've been working
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Woohoo on this episode of Babe Philosophy the.
First step for a woman that's feeling ashamed and maybe
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disconnected is just fine. Acceptance.
Just be like you know what? I accept that maybe I don't love
myself right now, and I accept that there is parts of me that I
don't like and I accept the shame.
Shame loves to hide in the dark too.
So by having somebody to talk about this with is so important.
Having somebody where you can belike, I've been experiencing
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shame because of this. I've been experiencing this kind
of shame. That's actually something that I
do inside of my Academy, like really becoming aware of the
shame that we're holding on to. This is Babe philosophy.
Podcast where questions matter more than answers, where liminal
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We are your hosts, Melly Wolf, and live wickedly.
Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Welcome to Babe Philosophy with Liv and the gorgeous Melee
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Melee, Melee, melee, melee. It's all your Mama.
That was awesome. I'm dying right now because Liv
is wearing these outrageous sunglasses and just like
everything she does is cracking me up, even if it's not funny,
just because she has these fucking sunglasses on.
God damn. It was one of those sunglasses
inside kind of vibes, you know? Does anybody have those?
(02:58):
I do. Definitely OK anyways we are so
excited today because we have miss Joanna Sanchez with us who
funnily enough Liv has met in the past and I met Joanna
recently out in Boulder, Co and thought she was just the dopest
(03:19):
chick and we had to have her on the pod cuz she does some cool
stuff. Joanna, tell us about yourself.
Who are you? Hi, well, First off, I have been
trying to just recollect my memory on like how I know Liv.
So I like I know I followed you for a while and like connected
(03:39):
on Instagram and then I just I don't remember.
I have like memory problems I feel like.
I dude, I have a very vague similar kind of memory.
Mellie was just like, I met thiswoman she's great, would love to
have her on the pod. And I was like, I vaguely
remember running into her at some point following each other
on Instagram and than just loving her.
And now I just have this abidinglove.
(04:01):
So we'll just leave it at that. Yeah, we'll just leave it at
that. That's great.
I'm so. Happy that we're.
Here our souls were meant to collide again in some way.
I love it. I can fuck.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you so much, Mellie for bringing me on.
And just I love what you ladies are doing.
I read the e-book that you ladies have and I was just like,
(04:22):
this is so beautiful because it just, I feel like it brings in
so much of like the spiritualityand stuff, but it also has like
this fine, like babe type of twist thing.
You know what I mean? Like the pink, hot pink and
everything that you ladies are doing.
I yeah, it has a special place in my heart.
And I just started to kind of connect to this podcast.
So I feel deeply honored and so grateful to be here and to be
(04:46):
able to share with your listeners.
I really do feel like this, thisthing you guys are creating is
gonna be big. And so like, I feel it.
Like I just feel the vastness ofit.
I feel the intention that you ladies are putting into it.
And so, yeah, like I said, I'm really grateful to be here.
So my name is Joanna, and this is always so fun because I feel
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like there's so many iterations of me.
Like every podcast that I go into, it's like, what's your
what? Introduce yourself.
I'm like, OK, we'll see what comes out today.
But yeah, I am the soul in this earth that has always felt like
I have a mission. Ever since I was like even five
years old. I just felt this like deep
knowing that I was here for something.
(05:30):
And I always just let it let that kind of guide me.
And it kind of played out into thinking that I was going to be
a doctor, right? That I was going to help people
through helping them heal in that way.
And then realized like, I didn'tlike school in the ways that I
thought I was going to like school.
I liked elementary school and middle school, high school.
(05:50):
But then I got to college and I started taking all these classes
and I was like, I don't want to take this shit.
This is not worth it to me. And so I found, I found personal
training during that time, foundpersonal training during that
time. And I was like, like, it just
happened so randomly. I went to this Crunch gym
because I was getting into bodybuilding and I was like
promoting these supplements at this gym.
(06:12):
And the guy at the gym was like,hey, do you want to be a
personal trainer? You look the part.
And I was like, I've never done that.
So yeah, why not? It's like, we'll train you.
OK. So I started just like doing
personal training and I started to connect so deep with my
clients, and it just brought this deep passion to support
people. And so that started with the
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physical body and the health. And so I changed my major
exercise science after that was working corporate.
And I was like, fuck this. What the fuck is this life?
Why did I get my degree? I'm not meant to be in this
place. I had so much anxiety.
I was like, I need to get the fuck out.
A lot of traction. I was like, oh, my thoughts
create my reality. I can change this.
Yeah. And I was like, let me hire.
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A mentor, I was reading books about like hire a mentor if you
want support. I was like, OK, so I hired a
mentor, got out of that corporate job, started my
fitness coaching business. And I did that for, I feel like
it was like 5 or 6 years. And then I went deep into my
spiritual journey and I just like, yeah, there's so much that
we can go into with that. But Long story short, I started
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to realize that I had a lot of chaos in my mind and I was
finding myself in anxiety and depression.
I was always chasing him. So deep in my mask I had no idea
what the fuck my feminine was. I was just like go go, go.
I need to make sure that I survived so I don't live in
poverty like I did in my childhood.
Just need to keep going. And so then that got me to a
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place where like my health was really bad.
My hair was falling out, my hormones were all flatlined.
And yeah, that just took me downa path where I was like, OK, I
need support. So I did therapy for two years,
and that was so good for my awareness.
And then I was like, I feel likethere's more than just what I'm
learning here. Like, I'm coming here every
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week. We're doing hypnotherapy.
I'm talking about the stuff. But like, I still feel so
disconnected from my body. I still feel so like, tight and
tense and rigid. I feel like I'm not living the
life that I want to live. Like there has to be something
more. And that's when I found feminine
embodiment and I went down that path and I was like, holy moly.
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And I'm sure we can get more into like what that means, but
just creating safety in my body,connecting to who I am as a
woman, connecting to my womb after six years of not even
having a cycle and like coming back to my femininity and my
cyclical nature. And just like this whole world
started to open up for me. And so I decided to switch my
business from just fitness coaching and supporting people
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with the physical aspect to supporting them with the
emotional and energetic too. And that's what I do now and
it's amazing. I'm so happy.
I feel so fulfilled, purposeful,and like I'm willing to do
whatever the fuck it takes to get this just this like
embodiment revolution that I feel so deeply connected to, to
get it out there. So I'm excited to share more
about that. But yeah, that's a little,
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that's in a nutshell. That's what decided to come out
tonight. Amazing.
I love it because I resonated somuch with and this is something
I remember thinking when I firstmet you, Joanna.
It's like I resonated so much with your story because I kind
of had a similar trajectory. And in my lived experience of
doing bodybuilding and getting really into fitness, and then
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realizing that like even though I was doing all this stuff with
my body, I was just totally disconnected from it.
And that leads to this beautifultopic for today, which is the
question of, is it bad to be disconnected from my body?
And I feel like Joanna's such a great person to talk to us about
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this, given the work that she does in the path that she's been
on. And yeah, I would love it,
Joanna, if you'd just kind of give us a little bit of a kind
of understanding or a summary of, like, what does it even mean
to be in your body? Like what does that even mean?
Such a good question. Yeah.
So First off, for anyone listening, it's not a bad thing
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to be disconnected from your body.
I don't think we need to shame ourselves if we're not connected
to our body. If anything, we can look at it
and be like, Oh my gosh, I want to experience more aliveness.
I want to experience more joy, more happiness in my life.
I want to feel more connectedness to myself.
And so the fact that I'm not connected to my body is actually
a sign that I get to go into it and create what I want, create
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how I want to feel. And so yeah, there's never, I
always preface everything with like this is not to shame
anyone. This is just to bring awareness
because almost everyone has experienced some level of
disembodiment. And so embodiment and living in
your body, what it means is to inhabit yourself fully through
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all dimensions. So we have physical, mental,
energetic and emotional and all of these bodies come together.
And so we know most women start first with like the physical
body and creating health. And then maybe we go into
mindset mental, but a lot of us have been disconnected from our
emotional or energetic. And so when we can feel
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ourselves through every dimension of our being and we
can connect to the language of what the different bodies are
sharing with us, we have a deeper awareness of ourselves.
And so to me, what it feels, what it, what I, what it means
that we're not, you know, tryingto sugarcoat it, it means to
allow your soul to fully inhabitevery bit of you.
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And so then that's, that looks like having, when you're
speaking, it's coming from a place of your soul's essence.
When you're moving through life,it's coming from a place of your
soul's essence. And it's also the ability to be
able to see, to tell what is distortion from the past versus
what is my actual truth. Because when we have that
awareness, then we can start living a life where it's like,
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oh shit, my truth is telling me to make this crazy decision in
my life. And although my illusions and
my, my mental body might be bringing up fear, I can feel
energetically, I can feel my soul, I can feel my emotions, my
emotional guidance system guiding me to this decision,
even if it doesn't make any logical sense.
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And so I'm going to follow that.And that's what a lot of people
are afraid of is to follow the flow of where your intuition is
taking you. Because they're so heavily,
especially a lot of women nowadays are so heavily in the
mental body that they're listening to this and they're
not connecting to their womb andtheir hearts and what that is
actually telling them to, to do and how to move forward in life.
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So that's a little synopsis on that.
That was excellent. And I, I even want to say like
the way you presented that I actually haven't.
And this is a hilarious gap to me.
Now that you've pointed this out, the way that you put that
you named all the bodies and that being in the body is being
at that like center point where every, everything's converging
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and you're experiencing all of you, right?
And then you're coming from yoursoul's essence, no matter what's
happening. And I'm like, Oh yeah, brain
like that just locked in something for me to hear it put
like that. I, I, I always use the term like
alignment, but then that comes with like in my own mind's
visualization like this very like up and down linear, like
this is the way to be that. But when you were talking about
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like the fullness, I felt if this makes any sense, more like
horizontal expansion. Like I can take up space, like I
can be big. And that's a big thing that
Mellie and I are, are always talking about is the the too
much thing, right? Like being too much.
And I really feel like I was hearing that.
And what you're saying is like alot of what the brain comes up
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with or like what our bodies arelike tuned into and our
reactions and our triggers are the, the contractions of, oh,
this is too much. If I do this, XYZ will happen.
And it's always like fear based and it's reinforced negatively.
And, you know, and then that's where you're talking about when
we get in check with where we are now, is that a distortion or
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is that my real truth? I just, yes, I really appreciate
your perspective on this. And I'm excited to have a
different lens on embodiment because I think I've just, I've
been doing the same thing over and over again.
And it's, you know, that just, it runs out, runs out at some
point. And so I like this idea of like
taking up the horizontal space, you know, being a big bitch, if
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you will. Big bitch energy.
Let's go. Bitch energy BBE.
But it's like, it's what I'm hearing.
It's like instead of living a linear life, right?
That's why what I do is called feminine embodiment.
It's like we're living a non linear life, right?
And even though we are living a non linear life, that does not
mean you're still not using the masculine.
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It's you go into the body first,into your feminine depth first,
your feminine passion first. Like that is the priority,
right? That that fire inside of you and
then you infuse that with, OK, logically, how am I going to
make this happen in this 3D reality?
How am I actually going to put the steps and take the action to
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bring this feminine passion forward into my life and what I
want to create? I love this and you know, it's
making me think of something that Liv and I talked about.
I've talked about quite a lot onthis on this podcast and we
talked about it more in the beginning, less so more
recently. But we talked about taking a
bottom up versus a top down approach to the world.
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And that like the and you just made the through people that
aren't watching and they're listening.
Joanna just like made this motion from like the bottom up
through her throat and up to herhead.
And that is something that I think is so powerful is like
leading with your your bottom upfrom from the inside.
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And then like, I love the way you put it, just like
rationalizing that and how to actualize that in the, you know,
material world instead of absorbing everything from the
outside, from the top through the head and down into the body.
But I would love to hear your and I just kind of summarized
what Liv and I spoke of when, when we speak of the top down
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versus bottom up approach. But I'd love for you to kind of
just explain for the people thataren't getting it, like what is
disembodiment then? So if we if we know what
embodiment is now, what is it tobe disembodied?
Great question. Really.
Yes. Beautiful question.
So to be disembodied, it's talking about what we just
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shared, like living so in this linear motion, right?
Living your life based on what you think you need to do, based
on what people have told you that you need to do and be in
order to quote, be successful, be liked, be loved, all of that
stuff, right? And so when you're living in a
disembodied state, it's that you're not really, it's, it's
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the top down method, right? Like, it's like you're living
from the external world. What is the external noise
teaching me and telling me? And I'm going to use that to
dictate what I do in my life, right.
Rather than when you're embodiedor, you know, an embodiment.
I also want to for the, for the listeners, embodiment is not
like a destination. Embodiment is not a destination.
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It's an ever unfolding journey. You will continue to embody more
and more and more of who you are.
It's not like, oh, I'm just embodied and I'm not, you know,
so just wanted to put that out there.
But yeah, when you're in a stateof disembodiment, some ways that
you can tell is where you know it's hard for you to sit still,
right? It's hard for you to have
stillness with yourself and connect with yourself without
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always thinking about the To Do List or feeling guilty of
feeling still being still, right?
Another sign of disembodiment isseeking for external pleasures,
finding yourself in this state of overconsumption.
Maybe it's like overly scrollingor maybe using food as like a
pleasure seeking tool. That was what I dealt with.
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I dealt with a lot of emotional eating and binge eating and I
didn't realize it was just because I was disconnected from
the pleasure in my body, right. So embodiment teaches you how to
activate that pleasure from within and then that's an
automatic shift in your behaviorthat I didn't stop emotionally
eating just because I was like, I'm gonna stop emotionally
eating. It just happened as I started to
deepen and descend into my body and like really feel my
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connection to her. I was like, oh, wow.
Like I have pleasure in here. I don't need to search for it
externally. And I was also like a heavy
drinker on the weekends, always seeking for pleasure externally.
And I see that also translate inthe way women behave in the
world is, you know, what is the next quick hit of pleasure I can
get because I'm so disconnected from my pleasure.
And they don't even know that unconscious.
So that's another sign of disembodiment.
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Another sign is just like, you know, I'm, I'm currently working
with this woman. She's such a beautiful soul, but
she says it. She's like, I have just lived my
whole life based on A + B = C and like everything has to have
a step by step. Like it's linear, right?
We talked about that. So it's like it's this linear
fashion living and the inabilityto kind of just like rest and
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surrender to the flow of what God source essence wants to
create through you, right? So disembodiment almost, you
know, if people are more unlike the have heard these concepts of
like ego versus soul, I guess disembodiment you can kind of
put it with the label of living more of like this ego based
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living, which is rooted in illusion.
It's rooted in past trauma, it'srooted in emotional baggage.
It's rooted in core beliefs thatyou created as a child.
And then embodiment is more of like soul living where it's
like, oh, I can witness that there's these parts of myself
that come up. There's this loud voice in my
head. There's this ego construct
that's happening, but I'm, I've turned up the volume of my inner
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world so much that and I can listen to that and kind of shut
this little voice down a little more and live my life from that
place so. Yeah, you're doing, yeah, you're
doing such a beautiful job of like putting these things in
frames. One of the things that we really
are trying to do with Babe philosophy is like take these
esoteric and imperial concepts and make them fucking human so
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people can use them and not leaving them this like niche
elite thing or weird woo woo thing like this thing off to the
side. Because really what we're
talking about is like how to be human.
Like actually functionally, how to be a human.
You've said something here that I think, you know, I have.
I'm just, like, getting a grip on, OK?
Even Mellie and I were talking about, like, talking about the
food. Like, she and I have had a week.
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We just noticed, like, as we're moving through these, like,
transformations in these expansion phases in our life
where we've said yes to something big and we've listened
to the tiny voice in us that tells us to do the crazy fucking
thing. Every time we go that direction,
there's some kind of initiation somewhere that comes for us at
some point. And we've watched each other go
through multiple iterations, theovereating and, and the binge
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cheating definitely comes up. We both have our little voices
that like, want us to do substances or used to want us to
like create drama and issues in our relationships instead of
just sitting in the discomfort, you know, all of these like
little things that you do. And I feel like in my
experience, and I don't want to like say what Mellie's
experience is, I just feel like I'm also witnessing this in her.
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We're like finally getting to this place where we like have
all this grace and we can kind of like step back and see what's
happening and kind of like hold more of it and like mother
ourselves more and like see it in each other and be softer
about it. However, it did not start like
that, right? Especially if you're like
running your masculine. It was like a I'm going to beat
myself with a stick because I know better and I'm not doing
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better. How dare I collapse into binge
eating. I know binge eating is bad.
It's going to make me fat. I'm so bloated now.
And then I would get into this like thing where it's like,
well, I already did it so fuck it.
Like I ruined the diet. I ruined the workout plan.
So like may as well just go hardin the paint.
So now I'm going to be binge eating for days on end until
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like I feel like I need to throwup and food makes me feel sick.
Yep, I'm I'm kind of intense andI'm sure there are other women
out there who do similar things.So I think what I would love to
hear your perspective on is how do we know when we're in our
like getting into our embodiment?
Like what voice do we trust? Do we trust all of them?
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Like how do I, when I drop in here and it's like noisy as
hell, what do I do? Who do I listen to?
How do I know I'm actually like listening to my essence and not
just continuing to repeat the programming?
Yeah, wow. Yeah.
I mean, that in itself, even formyself, I'm still navigating,
you know, it's an ever unfoldingjourney of like, whoa,
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especially when you have a trigger that's like coming up a
catalyst that life shows you. I follow this this guy and he
talks about like life lessons being catalysts, right?
And when those catalysts arise, those are they could be
initiations, right? Like deep initiations and shit
gets so loud that you're like, Ican't even understand what's
going on. Like for me, for instance, I
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have a lot of relational trauma that I'm healing in this current
relationship that I'm in. And so, you know, when it comes
to like my business and my purpose and like things that
I've already gone through the initiatory process, like money,
for instance, I can hear my intuition.
But when it comes to relationship shit, I'm still
learning how to navigate like, Oh my God, what the fuck is
this? What is not it, blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, So my heart goes to
all of us because we all deal with the noise that exists
within. And this isn't about perfection.
It's just about continuously walking the path to do the best
that you can at listening for what that voice is.
So one thing that really helps me, that is very beneficial for
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me and for my clients as well isjust like getting into the body
as much as possible when you arein a state of dysregulation,
taking yourself to a devotional space.
This is what I, what I, what I do.
I have a devotional space, whether it's in my little living
room or in my room where I just go there to meet myself, to be
with myself, right? And so when things just get
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really loud really all over the place, I just allow myself to be
with that and to fully feel because typically when it's like
a distortion like that that's arising, that when it gets
really loud is because that partof you is just asking to be met,
right? So can we meet that part?
Can we welcome it? Can we accept it?
Can we love it? Let's not resist the noise.
Let's lean into the noise because beneath the noise is the
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silence that we're looking for, right?
And so can I meet that noise? Can I meet the distortion?
Can I meet? OK, How does this want to
express right now? Oh, it's chaos in my mind.
OK, I'm going to shake my freaking head.
I'm going to shake my body. I'm going to make noise.
Like, how does this want to likeexpress through my voice?
OK, I'm freaking overwhelmed. Like this morning I went to the
gym and on my way back I was just like feeling like so much
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like rage. Like, oh, am I feeling so rage?
I was like, you know what? I don't need to know why, I just
am feeling it and it's like feels heavy.
So I'm just gonna freaking scream in my car and I just
started screaming. Then after that I felt so much
better and so much lighter. So that's like, that is my
biggest piece of advice is just like, take yourself there to
that space where you can just meet that part, breathe into it.
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Move your body's circular movements as healing is healing
energy. When you do like circular
movements with your body, it brings healing to those parts.
Notice where is that living in my body?
Is it in my head? Is the noise in my head?
Maybe I'm feeling contraction inmy tummy.
Maybe I'm feeling like tension in my shoulders.
Let me move this part. Let me, let me continue to just
like meet it with my breath, with my movement, with my sound,
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with my awareness, and then see what happens and see what's
beneath there. See what, what is actually
living beneath that. Because typically if it's rage,
then beneath that there's going to be sadness.
And then beneath that you're going to tap the tenderness of
yourself, the tenderness of yourheart.
And then beneath that you're going to find your truth.
So it's a cool part about embodiment is that our truth is
always living inside of us. Sometimes we just have to
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maneuver and move our way into it through the discomfort.
So I'm loving all of the frames that you're putting this in
because so juicy concepts, yeah,they're so juicy.
And these are all concepts that Liv and I talk about all the
time. But but Liv and I have our like
established like lexicon and like rhetoric for how we
describe these things. And it's fun to have like
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somebody put these same conceptsin different words.
And it just like it's it's great.
It's fucking awesome feel. Like we're all trying to do the
same thing with different ways of doing it.
Yeah, yeah, yes. Surprising right now for sure.
It's so. Necessary though, yeah.
Yeah. So to bring it a little bit like
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back to the question, because I feel like now we have a really
good understanding of like, OK, what does embodiment?
What does disembody meant? Like how do I get into my body?
And then the question really is like, is it bad to be
disconnected from your body? And I'd, and you spoke to it a
little bit in the beginning of the episode, Joanna.
But I feel like, you know, if I go back to a younger version of
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myself, right? And I'm kind of like listening
to this stuff and maybe I'm feeling a little resentful.
Maybe I'm feeling a little bit like defensive.
Maybe I'm like, I don't know, like this all seems weird, like.
But then underneath it, like I think that that's coming from a
place of knowing on some level that I am disconnected from my
body and feeling shame about it.So I'd love to like stop for a
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second and just talk to that girl and, and speak her
language. Cuz I feel like all of this is
really beautiful and all of thisis really powerful.
But I think it's for the woman who's disconnected from her
body, you know, it almost feels like too much maybe, or it
almost feels like overwhelming or, or just impossible or like a
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concept that just seems so bizarre.
And maybe she's feeling shame about not being feminine and
flowy and doing circles with herbody, you know, like, I would
love to just speak to her and ifand like, what would you say to
her? And obviously, like, if she
doesn't want the help, she doesn't want the help.
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But if she does, like, where canshe start?
What can she do? Yeah, beautiful way of putting
that. And just like rounding it back
in. Slam the questions today, girl.
Slam them. Thank you SO.
OK, this is, This is so good 'cause it makes me think outside
of the box too. So when I think of that, I think
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of like the versions of ourselves maybe that we're like
in bodybuilding, we're kind of just like.
So. Into like that right yeah like
that girl right yes yes. So the, the path to embodiment,
I feel like in the beginning stages, you do have to bring the
mind, like you have to go into the mind first, into the mental
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1st. And So what that means is like
for anyone that's just wanting to start off, I mean, for me,
having a therapist helped me. For me, having a mentor that was
a little bit more focused on themental helped because I needed
that to soften first before I can soften into my body, right?
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I needed those paradigms and like my, my concepts of what
life was to shift first before Ifelt safe enough to be like, oh,
yeah, this makes sense. Like creating safety in my body,
all of that. So that's one way is going
through the mind first, becomingaware of like, oh, wow.
Like there is a lot of thoughts in here and there is a lot of
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anxiety and depression and you know, these things.
And maybe there is shame associated with that.
But the biggest thing, the firststep I feel like is just on a
mental level, accepting, just accepting where you're at,
accepting that you are in this place that feels uncomfortable,
accepting that everything in life that has happened up until
this point was exactly what you needed, exactly what you needed.
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I, I come from a place I truly, deeply love sharing the codes of
like grace and compassion for solve.
I also live my life with this belief that everything happens
exactly as it's meant to, that there is nothing happening in
any other way than that. And that has just allowed me to
find so much acceptance for myself.
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So the first step for a woman that's feeling ashamed and maybe
disconnected and just like thinking back to like that
version is that it's just fine. Acceptance.
Just be like, you know what? I accept.
I accept that maybe I don't lovemyself right now and I accept
that there is parts of me that Idon't like and I accept the
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shame. Shame loves to hide in the dark
too. So by having somebody to talk
about this with is so important.I believe so significant, right?
Having somebody where you can belike, I've been experiencing
shame because of this. I've been experiencing this kind
of shame. That's actually something that I
do inside of my Academy. That's the first one of the
that's like the second module that we do is like really
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becoming aware of the shame thatwe're holding onto, right?
Like there's been so much that we've been conditioned to, we
feel ashamed of within ourselves.
We feel ashamed of our voice, feel ashamed of our bigness, of
our too muchness, of our expression.
And so I believe the first step for a woman like that is to seek
support and find acceptance for where you're at.
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Knowing that where you're at right now doesn't mean you're
going to always stay there. It just means that it's part of
your puzzle, part of your soul'sevolution, part of what you came
here to learn. So yeah, more on the mental
level. In order to get into the body,
we have to work on this first. Yeah, I love that.
I think that's a really good reminder because there's so many
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messages, right, about like, embodiment, get into your body,
get out of your head, like feel yourself, right.
And then I think it's actually really counterproductive for the
woman who's totally in her head to be like, you know, like Liv
was saying, like beating her, beating herself with a stick,
like demanding herself to get into her body.
Like it doesn't work that way. That's not, that's not the route
that we're gonna take, right? It's like you have to allow
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yourself, if you're really caught up in your mind, like
you're not gonna find embodimentby, you know, torturing yourself
into it. You're gonna have to really just
allow yourself to be in your mind and say it's OK.
And and and yeah, that grace, that grace, the codes of grace.
I fucking love that. Yeah, I also really love in how
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you framed that. It actually really tied into
what you were talking about in, you know, when you get to the
point that you like have your devotional space and you can
circle your body. You said you kept saying meet
yourself, meet yourself, meet yourself.
And your advice right there was meet yourself where you are.
And if where you are is a very mental creature like you plan
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out your day in your head, you wake up, you're going through
your To Do List. You're managing a bunch of
different things. Like if you know that your mind
is a strength of yours, it's what got you here.
Meeting yourself where you are would be meeting yourself in
your mind. And it was, it actually brought
me back to like when I was superashamed of my body and like so
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ashamed I wouldn't even wear a bathing suit around other women
kind of ashamed. And I just remember bringing
that awareness to how I was speaking to myself just like
right off the RIP. Just that practice in and of
itself was so eye opening and like it changed me to like
actually hear and go, Oh my God,I hear these things in my head.
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I wasn't paying attention before.
And then I'm like, well, who's saying that?
It's my mind, I'm saying it, it's me.
I'm saying this to myself. Oh my God.
And then like the shame that came with that and being like,
oh, I'm talking to myself reallyshitty.
I feel a lot of shame around that.
And then and then acknowledging the shame gave me the
opportunity to grieve that to actually be like this is
terrible. Like I shouldn't have to feel
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like this. Why do I talk to myself like
this? Where did I get this from?
And then it just kind of it justkind of snowballs.
I when I was doing my one-on-onecoaching practice, I used to
tell women this all the time, which is like, I hope a bastion
of hope. If you're like this feels
overwhelming. And I feel like I could start
with my mind, but how long is itgoing to take me?
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I remember telling people as soon as you open the store, you
can't close it. Like as soon as you choose to
make this shift, there's no going backward.
Like it's that Matrix red pill, blue pill.
Once you take that pill, you're you're in it.
Like there's no going backward. You're not going to get plugged
back in. So don't worry about how long
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it's going to take you the second you choose.
OK, I'm going to figure out how to become embodied.
I have no fucking clue what thatmeans and how to do it, but I
believe there's more for me. So I'm gonna give it a shot.
As soon as you make that choice,like you're in ceremony and then
you're in ceremony for fucking life.
Like you. You did it like you're, you're
in it. Yeah.
So just like some encouragement and not from a fear place, not
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from like a you're committed nowand it's never gonna end, but
more just like this place of like one step at a time and one
step at a time and one step at atime and one fucking step at a
time over and over and over again.
Yeah. And like, I feel like all three
of us are here just saying like,that is what it is.
And it's a practice. Like we're just, we're always
practicing, just constantly practicing.
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And it's just a way that we liveour life and it keeps things
flowing and it keeps our hips incircles instead of jagged lefts
and rights. And it's it's a, it's a good
thing. It's a good thing.
Yeah. Thank you for just the way you
framed all of this. It's beautiful.
Yeah, seriously. Yeah, I.
Always like I like the women that I work with are the women
that have done that mental work,you know, that have like done
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the mindset work, have found some kind of awareness and some
kind of like freedom and that, but are like, oh shit, I'm ready
for more now. You know, 'cause like you said,
it's just one step at a time, one step at a time, one step at
a time. So embodiment is for that woman
that has already taken those steps, have met herself where
she's at. She's had maybe some support
with personal development. Maybe she's listened to the
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podcast, she's reading the book,she's doing all this stuff, but
she's like, whoa, like it's a felt experience.
Like the woman that comes to me,like I just feel like this is my
next step. Like this connection to my body,
this connection to my feminine because I've mastered, you know,
typically it goes from like hypermasculine where it it hurt
them to then connecting more to the mind in a healthier way.
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And then I believe the masculinethen like that masculine
connection to the mind then supports the descent into the
feminine and into the body. Yeah, I believe that.
Yeah, it does. It does take steps, right.
It's like, you know, I personally believe this too,
that like, if somebody's never done the work and they go to an
ayahuasca ceremony, like, what the fuck's gonna happen?
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You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, that's my, my perspective on that is like you
can't just throw yourself into something without meeting
yourself 1st and titrating your nervous system into something
that's a little less like it's aword I'm looking for, like less
initiatory, you know, like it's baby steps is what I'm trying to
(37:23):
get out baby steps. Yeah, I'm also thinking of like
when Liv and I, our path has been really like parallel in, in
the past couple years and last year, like a year and a half ago
we went or like a year, I don't know how long, a year and a half
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ago we went through a breakup year.
A year ago we went through really hard breakups and we were
just like, so in our heads aboutit, it was like what, what?
Like just constantly like what could we have done?
How could we have been better? Oh my God, I hate him.
How could he have done better? You know, just head, head, head,
head, head, head, head, head, head, head, head, like so much
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head. And then as we started to like
reclaim ourselves a little bit, what actually happened 1st?
And you're making me think of this right now, Joanne.
And I'm like kind of putting thedots together is like, like I
always used to joke that like I'm we, we daddy, we called it
daddy ourselves. Like we daddied ourselves.
We got into our masculine in a way that felt containing.
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We got into our masculine in a way that was like, I can take
care of me, I'm safe with me, I'm strong enough, I can think
my way through things, I can make enough money for myself.
Like we got really masculine, but it was very empowering
because we were containing ourselves.
It was like we were daddying ourselves.
We were being our own, like sugar daddies, you know, and
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giving ourselves what we needed with our minds.
And then from that point on, we started to drop into our
feminine. We started to drop into the
embodiment. We started to drop into the
emoting, the moving, the feeling.
And like, that's where we've been for the past year is like
really exploring that. And on this journey of like,
what you're talking about, this feminine embodiment.
And I'm really now realizing that like we got there through
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daddy ING ourselves and being the masculine for ourselves.
Yeah. Yeah, like the masculine created
the pathway, kind of created thedirection into then the
feminine. And then I find also that it's
like mind to body, masculine to feminine.
And then at least in my personaljourney and like from women that
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I've spoken to, it's like then once like the feminine feels
like, oh wow. Like we are really connecting,
we are feeling, we're emoting, like you said.
Then all these other like mentalconstructs start to make more
sense. Like, at least for me, for
instance, like learning manifestation from a place of
embodiment, not from a place of just like my mind.
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So what I'm saying is like, I feel like it's like mind to body
and then the body feeds the mind, right?
It's like this beautiful journeythat I've, I've just noticed
within myself and kind of like what you're sharing as well.
It's like then we have to bring that feminine depth back to the
mind in a new way. And then they're both working
together in union, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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That's totally how Babe philosophy was born and it's how
we have to do it. Literally.
We tried to script ourselves to record a little AD for our
grimoire and it is the most uncomfortable, stilted, grody
thing I've ever seen either of us do.
And we literally just re recorded it before this podcast
because we were like, I don't think we can be scripted.
(40:39):
I think we need to just let whatcomes up comes up because this
whole thing is just inspired action.
So again, like, like what we said, once you open that door,
you ain't going back, baby. Just keep getting one step at a
time. Keep your phone going the way
that. You thought you needed to do
them and you're like wait, what the fuck doesn't?
Feel. Right.
Wait, this is not fucking working at all.
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This is terrible. Why was I doing it like this
before? What the hell?
Well, it's funny, I did. Listen to that.
I listened to the to the. It's the one that's on the
website, right? Yeah, for yeah, right now, the
one that's the last, the one that's gone out the last couple
episodes is the the it's scripted.
It's less scripted than the first time we recorded, but it's
still scripted. Not the intro to our episode,
(41:21):
but the but it's a grimoire. Not the grim.
The intro to our episode, it's the the ad.
Grimoire. Yeah, the.
Book that's. The one, isn't it The one when
you download the e-book, you have it on there, you can see
it, you can hear it. Well, maybe I.
Don't know I. Was just going to say, well,
I've listened to that, it soundsgreat.
So this is my perspective on it.Oh my.
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God, it's so good. OK, well, thank you so much,
Joanna, for coming on. This was fucking incredible.
I feel like it just kind of tiedeverything together so
beautifully. And you are clearly such a gift
to this work. And I'm so excited.
I mean, on my mind, I'm like imagining.
I'm like, Oh my God. When we to do a Bay Philosophy
(42:04):
retreat, we have to have Joanna come and do an embossment
workshop. That'd be so fucking.
Cool, I would still be there. Yeah, amazing.
OK, Well, I would love if you could tell our listeners where
they can find you and know more about you and work with you,
etcetera. Yay.
Yeah, so right now I'm on Instagram at I am Joanna
(42:28):
Sanchez. Joanna Sanchez with AZ at the
end and same thing TikTok. I'm getting started on YouTube.
I'm actually moving a lot of my energy and focus onto YouTube.
I really feel more connected to longer form type of content.
And so you'll find me there started doing some shorts short
stuff there. But yeah, I am Joanna Sanchez on
(42:51):
all platforms. I have a podcast also called the
I'm moving through it podcast and we'll, we'll connect to you
about bringing you ladies on there.
And yeah, on Instagram you can find in my link, I have a
retreat coming up, which is in Sedona and I'm really excited
about that. And then I also have an Academy
for women that are, have alreadydone the mental work, personal
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development work and are seekingthat deeper part in connection
to their body and their feminine.
I have an Academy that's a 13 week school that supports a
woman from getting everything wejust talked about into the body,
creating safety sensitivity in her body, learning how to
liberate emotions in a powerful way without getting too sucked
into them, and then expanding like her magnetism, her
pleasure, and living life from that that place.
So you can find those on Instagram.
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Oh my God. Yes, Queen.
Yes, thank. You for being.
Out here and doing this fucking thing, I can tell you're so in
your gift. You found your mission, dude,
and you're fucking living it andit's beautiful.
And thank you for sharing. Seriously, thank you.
Thank you so much. Thank you for this.
I'm so happy that we get to Co create together and just like
share this medicine and this wisdom with so many powerful
(43:56):
babes out there. Yeah.
Fucking fuck it up. Yes, all right, listeners, well,
like subscribe, comment, let us know what you thought.
Let us know if you're in your head or your heart or your body
or where the fuck you are. And follow us at Babe dot
Philosophy on Instagram. We love you.
(44:16):
Later. Babes.
Later babes. So good.
Yeah, so beautiful. Thank you for listening to Babe
Philosophy. If you enjoy the show, please
like, rate and subscribe wherever you listen and follow
us on Instagram at Babe dot Philosophy.
Later babes.
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