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Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop stop, okay, black Stock,
it's me. It's me, It'sMartin. You can't just set you
back to the future. Oh.I know you did send me back to
the future, but I'm back.I'm back from the future. Wait a
(00:24):
minute, Wait, gosh, fare you telling me that you built the
time machine the way I see it? If you're gonna build a time machine
out, why not doing some style? Hello everybody, and welcome to Back
(00:44):
to the Future of the podcast,the only podcast looking back in time for
Chris film Trilogy of All Time Backto the Future. I'm youre spending time,
Brad Gilmore. I know it's beena little while. I've been sporadic.
It happens. People who've listened tothis show for nine years. Geez,
they know I can be sporadic.But you know, like again,
this is this is a show thatI do out of love. I don't
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do it to profit off of it. I don't do it for any other
reason than to just bring you allcontent when I can. And you know,
the last couple of episodes have beenkind of centered around what you could
call my day job, where Iget to interview a lot of cool people
and talk to them about a varietyof projects. I had the Cobra Kai
guys on, John Cryer was onwho auditioned for the role Marty McFly and
(01:29):
Back to the Future and today thisepisode's no different. What I what I
do you know is I always tryto find somebody who I can make that
connection to, Like when you interviewsomebody, I'm sure there's people listening out
here who have their own podcasts ortheir own show or something where they interview.
(01:51):
I always say, okay, sayI'm interviewing tof for Grace, Okay,
which I have before? Okay,what is my angle on tofer?
Like? What am I looking for? Like, what's our connection going to
be? I know he's got theshow, So I always think, Okay,
what are they promoting? What haveI seen what they're promoting? If
I can see it, let mesee it first so I can talk to
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them more intimately about it. Andthen I think, okay, off of
the regular show, where else canI go with them? You know what
else can I do? Where canwe take this thing? And I try
to figure out is there any pointof reference that will both enjoy and people
know me. No. I likejust a couple of things, movies from
the eighties, especially back to thefuture in pro wrestling and hip hop.
(02:36):
If I can find a way toweave that into a conversation, I will.
And so recently I've had some guestswho I know either one. They're
back to the future fans. Theyare enthusiasts, they love it. You
know mikey Day when he was onhere, the Cobra Kai guys, John
Cryer, just to name a few, and there's no different. There's a
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director Eli Roth as well. Youknow he was in Gloria's Bastard's. He's
done a lot of great horror films. He had a new one called Thanksgiving
starring Nell. Everyone knows I loveNell from the Big Shot and Addison Ray
who's a big TikTok star and thingsof that nature. And I remember he
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did a movie called A House witha Clock in its walls and when they
were pulling up to the Marquee,he was doing it for ambuling. When
they're pulling up to Marquee, aspaceman from Pluto's up there. I immediately
clock it being a Back to theFuture fan, and I thought when I
when I looked at my schedule andknew I was going to interview Eli Roth,
I said, man, that wouldbe a good thing to ask him.
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And when you do these press interviews, they're fun because you actually do
get to talk to the people,and you know, everyone kind of knows
what it is. You know,we're talking to about one project in particular,
and mainly they're like seven minutes.Sometimes they're ten, sometimes they're fifteen,
sometimes they're twenty. But normally,you know, the publicists are always
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on you to finish the interview becausethey got to do Eli. When I
talked to him this morning, heprobably did I'm just guessing, but he
probably did, you know, atleast two hours of interviews ten minutes each
ish, right, So whatever thatboils down to, you know, what
is that twelve interviews? Maybe?So he did the twelve interviews, and
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so I know I got to comeup with something different. I wanted to
talk to him about Back to theFuture. But I remember, as I'm
doing this episode or this interview,I was running out of time. Because
he's a great, great storyteller,great talker, has great answers to questions,
and I almost ran out of timewith him before I could ask the
back to the future question. ButI would have kicked myself if I didn't.
So I'm gonna play you Eli Rothnow. Before we play it,
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I do want to warn you all. For some reason, when I do
these, I always export the mainfile so I have it unedited and clean.
For some reason, I couldn't findthe clean interview of this. I
have it from my Collection podcast,which if you haven't listened to my other
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show and you love like interviews ofthe day with some big names, let
me tell you about the Collection realquick. That's a show I really would
hope y'all check out. I meana lot of the big names are in
the intro to the show you'll hear. But recently Eli Roth, Remy Maud,
Darren Aronofsky, aj Styles, AndyMcDowell, David Ayir, Josh Hutcherson.
Just to name a couple who've beenon recently. Recently, Brad Meltzer,
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John Cryer. I mean, I'vehad some good ones recently. We're
the rest of them, Grayson Waller, Holt and Moore, Tierney kel Mitchell,
Dame Dash, bill Ingwall, SeanMichaels, The Cobra, Chai Guys,
Matthew Lillard, Adam Ases, ChrisTucker, Chum Lee, Brett Baar,
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Tim Qualls, Ed Begley Junior,Sherry Shephard, Matthew McConaughey, Tiffany
Theeson, Trish Stratus, Jack Osborne, Jordan Johnson, Hans Shane, Belcourt,
bun Be. I mean it goeson, as you could tell.
I forgot that I had some ofthese, so definitely go check out the
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collection. I always have. Likeyou know, I try to drop two
or three a week. I'm tryingto do over one hundred interviews this year,
and I've already done fifteen, Ithink in January. I don't think
I've done any in February yet,So fifteen interviews in January pretty good start.
I think I'm gonna hit my onehundred goal. I've already got a
few on the books coming up.But nevertheless, let me not bore you
with details. I am still I'mjust gonna shoot my shot here. I
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will always do back to the futureof the podcast always. I think the
only way I'll ever stop doing thisshow is if I can get Michael J.
Fox, Tom Wilson and Robert Zemecka'sinterviews. If I get those three,
I think I'm gonna bring the showto a close, because how do
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you top that? Right, howdo you top it? Fed everyone else
from the cast who I've wanted totalk to on here, those are the
three that elude me. Elizabeth Showould be a good one. But it's
not like a Nassa like I don'tneed it, but I would like it.
You know, I don't need it, but I would like it.
So if I can get those three, I think I'm gonna put a bow
on this thing. We're on seasonten and I'm still working every I'm telling
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you, I try all the timeto get these people on the show.
And when I say these people,these icons on the on this little show,
maybe one day we'll get We've hadBob Gail on, which is like
probably him and Chris Lloyd, LeaThompson, Chrispin Glover. I could have
never imagined any million years talking tothese people. It is great. But
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I'm going to go ahead and we'regoing to play my interview Eli Roth from
the collection here on Back to theFuture the podcast again. I'm your friend
and time Brad Gilmour, We'll seeyou again in the future and enjoy this
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Brad Gilmour brings you a collection ofconversations with stars from movies. Matthew
McConaughey, Brad Gilmore, Mark Wohlberg, Hey, how are you the legendary
mister Christopher Lloyd Christopher, how arewe doing well? I'm doing good,
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doing, my friend? Good morning? Thank you so much Brad for having
me. I appreciate this. BudEllie Rippert, thank you for having me.
Comedy Jay Leno joins us, Jay, how you doing? Hey?
Chris Tucker is in the bill thatChris Tusher. Good morning to you,
Hey, good morning to you.How are you, Gabriel Fluffy Iglesias,
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Good morning music, Lola men Bro, thank you, thank you for having
me. The legendary front man ofAC d C. Brian Johnson joins us.
Right now, Brian, how youdoing, Good morning, Brad,
Look give me funny Grammy Award winnerMaya joins us, Are and more and
more. This is the collection.Now your hosts the boat. Brad Gilmore
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so excited to talk to this guy. I'm such a fan of him.
His movie Thanksgiving is now on digitaland Blu ray and DVD. The director
himself joins us, mister Eli RothEli, good morning to you, Hey,
good morning, hey man. Firstoff, this movie, I know
it's out for now everyone and cansee. If they didn't get into theater,
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they can get it on digital,they can get it on Blu ray
and DVD. It was such afun movie. And this is somebody who
I'm not saying that horror isn't mymy normal bag, if you will,
but I do enjoy a nice slashermovie from time to time, and this
one kind of hit me on allthe fields. It was firing on all
cylinders, and I'm sure that's somethingyou've heard a lot about. Has the
feedback for Thanksgiving been what you wantedit to be? Oh, it's incredible.
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I mean, look, you know, you never you know, making
movies this faith based system. Youjust hope to God it all worked out,
like you never know, I meanwhat people are going to think.
But you know, I have apretty good understanding of audiences and as I
just think, approach it like afan myself, Like I had been waiting
all these years to see this movie, and I've been waiting to see a
slasher film based and Thanksgiving? Whatwould I want to see? And yeah,
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it's been incredible. You never know. I'm very, very grateful that
fans came out to support it andto support new mythology. You know,
right now it's hard to get anew movie be out there. Everyone wants
sequels, they want reboots, andyou know, first studios to take a
chance and put the money out thereto advertise something new in theaters only,
it's pretty wild. And the fanscame out and supported it, and I'm
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forever grateful them. Look now I'min a situation where it's not only out
on Blu Ray, DVD and digital. It's back in theaters, which I
didn't even expect. I thought maybethey'll do a Thanksgiving your release, but
to have it out there already ispretty wild. So you know, the
fan demand was high and I'm verygrateful for it. Yeah, it's been
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much more successful, you know,just I guess had legs and it's continued
to, I think, find newviewership. And even though it just came
out, You're right, people areattached to this new mythology. And you're
right, man, Marvel has dominated, DC has dominated, the remakes have
dominated, and that's all well andgood. There's a place for that.
But I think that to have newmovies out there and have new stories and
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have what a talented cast, especiallythe young cast when we talk about and
Milo and Addison, Yeah, it'sit's it's really great. I mean,
I feel very very lucky. Andthat's the great thing about a Splasher film
is you can make that discovery.And you know, Johnny Depp started in
them, Maren elm Street. Youknow, when you start with with these
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movies, you can The great thingis you don't you don't know who's going
to live. You know and who'sgoing to die and you are you know,
associations from other things. So wegot very lucky to look Patrick Dempsey.
You're anchoring with these amazing veteran actorsPatrick Dempsey, Gina Gershaw and Rick
Houfman. And then you have otheryou know, actors like Tim Dillon that
come in for a part that areso fun. But really the joy is
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in finding someone like a nel VerLack who's the lead where you just don't
know it, you just and she'slike a young Julia Roberts. I think
she's an amazing, amazing actor withsuch an incredible future ahead of her.
You know. Part of the funis finding someone like now and then pairing
her with you know, Addison Ray, who most people know from social media,
but it's really really focused in studyingacting and really serious about acting,
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and it's terrific in the film.And then other actors like Milon Mannheim,
who everybody knows in Disney's Zombies,finally breaking out and doing something all raised
and adult, is a superb actor, and Jamaza Sineli and Gabriel Davenport,
it's Jenna Warren. It's just afantastic, fantastic group. I got really
lucky, and there was certainly thenicest bunch of kids I've ever worked with.
I mean, everyone who worked asthe Pau's been great, but this
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is a this is a really specialgroup, and I think audiences responded to
it. There's insane amounts of tiktoksand social media just about the young cast.
And that's the fun of all Rfilms. You can bring new faces
to the screen and keep the innovating. You're actually right, and as much
as you launch a new mythology,you know you're right. This can be
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the launch of a whole new generationof actors that we're going to see in
movies going on forward. I agreewith you about now. By the way,
I saw her in a Disney Plusshow called Big Shot or the Big
Shot, Big Shot. Yeah,and she was fantastic in there as a
lead, just fantastic, stole everyscene she was in. She's she's a
real deal. I mean she's aserious trained New York actor. Her her
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father's an acting teachers, an actor. I mean she comes to like an
acting family, went to high schoolperforming arts like. She's a real deal.
And her performance was so grounded andso real, and she is you
know, beautiful, like a youngJulia Roberts. But she's all she's just
got this like incredible natural beauty,almost like she's not aware of it.
And that's what it said in itsaid. The way I described her in
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the script was this is the mostbeautiful girl in school who doesn't realize she's
the most beautiful. She doesn't realizeit yet, she's no aware of how
no idea like awareness of how prettyshe is. And and she just is
just a naturally sweet person and agreat actor. So anyone you pair her
with the scene is going to bebetter. So you put her with,
you know, with Patrick Dempsey,they were so fantastic, and Rick Hoffman
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and you know, Tamasa Samlian myown Manheim. I mean, we had
a really really terrific cap and everybodyjust went for it. And that was
when I'm wrapping the actors for themovie, they go, what should we
watch Friday the thirteen? To mybloody Valentine. I was like, no,
no, no, for now.I was like, watch Betty Blue
with Batres Dahl, watch for theguys, watch watch Sorcerer a freaking watch
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five easy pieces. And they're like, what they didn't expect those to be
the recommendation to go. But theseare great inspiring performances. You watch Jack
Wilkinson and five these pieces. Lookhow much he does without saying a word.
That's the look on his face,and suddenly they're like, oh yeah,
wait, wait, we can putthat style that can be in this
movie. I can do that.So it's just sort of opening their minds
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up to the possibility of what youcan do in a slasher films. Like
the acting doesn't have to be bad. It should be great, but it
doesn't have to be overdone. Itshould just be real. You and these
kids do not know they're in ahorror film. They're not aware of it.
They're not making jokes. You justhave to play it all. You
can have fun and you can dostupid things, but you got to play
it real, like this is reallyhappening. So I got very lucky with
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the cat but I love them.I think they're all going to have,
you know, great futures. Oh. I agree that Patrick DENSI kid,
he's got something, man, he'sgot something. I can't put my finger
on it, but he gives me. He's try romantic comedy. It's not
hard film. I think he mightbe. I think he might thrive in
that. You know, when youmake slasher movies or horror films, however
you want to characterize it, typicallyas opposed to a superhero film. You
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know, the budgets aren't the same, right, you have typically a smaller
budget with horror films. But Iwanted to ask you, with that smaller
budget, does it breed more creativity? Because I feel like if you have
limitless money, you just you know, feel like you can do whatever,
and when you have constraints, itkind of breeds some more innovative thinking.
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Well, more money is more eyeball, you know, unless you're at the
Christopher Nolan level, and then there'sno pressure. You know, when you
as soon as you start getting intothat level of money, people start going
it has to make that money back, which means it has to appeal to
a wide audience, which means yougot to kind of cut the edges off
and you can't kind of take thoserisks that you could, you know,
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if a movie. Most of thesemovies are being made for I mean the
means are two hundred and fifty million, three hundred millions. June runs for
fifteen, so you know, whereyou'd have weeks to shoot a scene.
You don't have to make any decisions. You can shoot it this way,
you can shoot it that way.I think it's a great luxury to have.
But for me, like that openingBlack Friday riot with four nights the
whole thing from the moment they pullup at the store through the gunshot at
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the end of the sequence. Soit's two nights outside in the cars in
the parking lot and two nights insidefor the riot. So you have to
plan and make decisions and basically preedit the movie in your head, and
then you just got to hope itall goes right when you're shooting it.
You know, it's this organic processwhere you're staging it and running people around
and you have stung people. Youdon't know it's going to work. You
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just have to believe it's going towork and prepare for it. And it
was a very complex scene to do, but you know, thankfully it all
came together. It was a lotof planning and a great team around me.
So I like it. I mean, I like those scenes where sometimes
you only have one nice shoot ata kil SCE and you're like, I
wish I had more time and shecould have got more shot. And then
the other time, you know,all you need is a corn holder in
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the years, it's the simplest thingI shot at. Rehearse and rehearse the
footage and the stats in the ear. It took seven takes to do it
right, but we got it.And then it's adding the sound effects.
It's like, you don't need toblow up a planet, you don't need
these elaborate giant space and just needlike a crazy idea. And that's the
front of horror. Is that thebest idea? Wins? Oh Man really
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just does. Sometimes the creativity thebest idea wins. I love that.
Now, a couple last things foryou here again we're talking to Eli Roth.
You get Thanksgiving on digital, Bluray, DVD and back in theaters
as well, as he pointed outto us, now I want to I
want to ask you this, Eli, This kind of concept came from a
trailer that was shot for The Grindhouseall those years ago with Quentin Tarantino Rober
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Rodriguez. More so than did youever think this would come to fruition?
What did did you learn it?By continually working with greats like those two,
that kind of impacted your own directingstyle. Well, it's a great
question. I mean, first,you know, the idea for this is
Jeff Brandella. I wrote We weretwelve years old, and when we came
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up with the idea of doing it, thanks people Flature Film. And it
was just because we were in Massachusettswatching every other holiday and get done thinking
when are they going to do Thanksgiving? Why not Thanksgiving? So it really
was kind of out of necessity.And then when Quinton and Robert asked me
if I wanted to do a faketrailer, you know, I was like,
of course, I got it.It's Thanksgiving. We kind of already
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had it written. So in termsof what I learned from those guys,
I mean, Robert is a difference. You know. He talked kind of
the relationship with art and fear andcreativity and the importance of you know,
momentum and not overthinking things and justlike you have an idea, you write
it, you do it, youdon't stop, don't let fear paralyze you.
That was a really, really great, great lesson I ever learned from
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Robert and from Clinton. It's hereally really his shots come from the you
rehearse it with your actors get itso it's running like a real scene,
like a play, and then youstart to figure out where the camera goes.
That it's the camera moves have tobe motivated by the actors, and
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the actors have to know their backstoryand that every minor character he's as he
told me, he's like Mia Wallacedoesn't know she's gonna me in the movie
for twenty minutes. Think she's inthe mean whileas movie she thinks she's the
star of the film. And that'swhy the performance is great. And that's
how every actor has to be.They have to think that they are the
center of the movie. So youhave to know who they are, know
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the backstory, know who their friendsare, and have the actor play it
that way, and that's how youget it to all feel like a real
universe. But he would clear theset, have everyone walk in, rehearsal,
rehearsal, rehearsal. Then he bringsin his DP Bob Richardson. They're
looking at through the lenses. They'refiguring out the camera moves, but it
all comes from the actor. Andthat's one thing I try to do,
is that go to the location withthe actors. We rehearse if we run
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it, would you walk in hereand stand here. I look at Once
you've got that down, you takethe time to really figure that out,
everything goes fast, Oh man,I have I love that answer, And
Eli, I'm running ot of timewith you, but I have about thirty
forty seconds left. And I haveto ask you this because your movie house
with a clock in its walls lovethat one as well. But what I
wanted to point out about that iswhen I saw the trailer, I looked
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at the marquee on that movie theaterand it said spaceman from Pluto. That
spoke to me. I knew exactlywhat it was in reference to the Back
to the Future original title, whydid you wanted to throw that Easter egg
in? And how big of aBack to the Future fan are you?
I love Back to the Future andI also loved you know, I was
making a movie for Ambler, right, So I did that for Spielberg,
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you know, I wanted ten tosee it and doing the movie for his
company, and I like it feltright. It felt right, you know,
for the time period of the movie. But yeah, Back to the
Future is just one of those classes. And I loved the fake title.
I love the idea that they didit under a fake title, and I
just loved the lore of that,and I wanted to, you know,
just give a little nod out tothe grade, especially a movie that takes
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place in that time period, madea lot of sense. Man well again
thanksgiving out digital Blu Ray DVD backin theaters. Eli wrote the director,
congrats on the movie success Man,and we can't wait for the sequel.
Thank you. I appreciate it workingon it. Now, have a good
one, Eli Eli Roth. Everyone
Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop stop, okay, black Stock,
it's me. It's me, It'sMartin. You can't just set you
back to the future. Oh.I know you did send me back to
the future, but I'm back.I'm back from the future. Wait a
(00:24):
minute, Wait, gosh, fare you telling me that you built the
time machine the way I see it? If you're gonna build a time machine
out, why not doing some style? Hello everybody, and welcome to Back
(00:44):
to the Future of the podcast,the only podcast looking back in time for
Chris film Trilogy of All Time Backto the Future. I'm youre spending time,
Brad Gilmore. I know it's beena little while. I've been sporadic.
It happens. People who've listened tothis show for nine years. Geez,
they know I can be sporadic.But you know, like again,
this is this is a show thatI do out of love. I don't
(01:07):
do it to profit off of it. I don't do it for any other
reason than to just bring you allcontent when I can. And you know,
the last couple of episodes have beenkind of centered around what you could
call my day job, where Iget to interview a lot of cool people
and talk to them about a varietyof projects. I had the Cobra Kai
guys on, John Cryer was onwho auditioned for the role Marty McFly and
(01:29):
Back to the Future and today thisepisode's no different. What I what I
do you know is I always tryto find somebody who I can make that
connection to, Like when you interviewsomebody, I'm sure there's people listening out
here who have their own podcasts ortheir own show or something where they interview.
(01:51):
I always say, okay, sayI'm interviewing tof for Grace, Okay,
which I have before? Okay,what is my angle on tofer?
Like? What am I looking for? Like, what's our connection going to
be? I know he's got theshow, So I always think, Okay,
what are they promoting? What haveI seen what they're promoting? If
I can see it, let mesee it first so I can talk to
(02:13):
them more intimately about it. Andthen I think, okay, off of
the regular show, where else canI go with them? You know what
else can I do? Where canwe take this thing? And I try
to figure out is there any pointof reference that will both enjoy and people
know me. No. I likejust a couple of things, movies from
the eighties, especially back to thefuture in pro wrestling and hip hop.
(02:36):
If I can find a way toweave that into a conversation, I will.
And so recently I've had some guestswho I know either one. They're
back to the future fans. Theyare enthusiasts, they love it. You
know mikey Day when he was onhere, the Cobra Kai guys, John
Cryer, just to name a few, and there's no different. There's a
(02:58):
director Eli Roth as well. Youknow he was in Gloria's Bastard's. He's
done a lot of great horror films. He had a new one called Thanksgiving
starring Nell. Everyone knows I loveNell from the Big Shot and Addison Ray
who's a big TikTok star and thingsof that nature. And I remember he
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did a movie called A House witha Clock in its walls and when they
were pulling up to the Marquee,he was doing it for ambuling. When
they're pulling up to Marquee, aspaceman from Pluto's up there. I immediately
clock it being a Back to theFuture fan, and I thought when I
when I looked at my schedule andknew I was going to interview Eli Roth,
I said, man, that wouldbe a good thing to ask him.
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And when you do these press interviews, they're fun because you actually do
get to talk to the people,and you know, everyone kind of knows
what it is. You know,we're talking to about one project in particular,
and mainly they're like seven minutes.Sometimes they're ten, sometimes they're fifteen,
sometimes they're twenty. But normally,you know, the publicists are always
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on you to finish the interview becausethey got to do Eli. When I
talked to him this morning, heprobably did I'm just guessing, but he
probably did, you know, atleast two hours of interviews ten minutes each
ish, right, So whatever thatboils down to, you know, what
is that twelve interviews? Maybe?So he did the twelve interviews, and
(04:28):
so I know I got to comeup with something different. I wanted to
talk to him about Back to theFuture. But I remember, as I'm
doing this episode or this interview,I was running out of time. Because
he's a great, great storyteller,great talker, has great answers to questions,
and I almost ran out of timewith him before I could ask the
back to the future question. ButI would have kicked myself if I didn't.
So I'm gonna play you Eli Rothnow. Before we play it,
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I do want to warn you all. For some reason, when I do
these, I always export the mainfile so I have it unedited and clean.
For some reason, I couldn't findthe clean interview of this. I
have it from my Collection podcast,which if you haven't listened to my other
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show and you love like interviews ofthe day with some big names, let
me tell you about the Collection realquick. That's a show I really would
hope y'all check out. I meana lot of the big names are in
the intro to the show you'll hear. But recently Eli Roth, Remy Maud,
Darren Aronofsky, aj Styles, AndyMcDowell, David Ayir, Josh Hutcherson.
Just to name a couple who've beenon recently. Recently, Brad Meltzer,
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John Cryer. I mean, I'vehad some good ones recently. We're
the rest of them, Grayson Waller, Holt and Moore, Tierney kel Mitchell,
Dame Dash, bill Ingwall, SeanMichaels, The Cobra, Chai Guys,
Matthew Lillard, Adam Ases, ChrisTucker, Chum Lee, Brett Baar,
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Tim Qualls, Ed Begley Junior,Sherry Shephard, Matthew McConaughey, Tiffany
Theeson, Trish Stratus, Jack Osborne, Jordan Johnson, Hans Shane, Belcourt,
bun Be. I mean it goeson, as you could tell.
I forgot that I had some ofthese, so definitely go check out the
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collection. I always have. Likeyou know, I try to drop two
or three a week. I'm tryingto do over one hundred interviews this year,
and I've already done fifteen, Ithink in January. I don't think
I've done any in February yet,So fifteen interviews in January pretty good start.
I think I'm gonna hit my onehundred goal. I've already got a
few on the books coming up.But nevertheless, let me not bore you
with details. I am still I'mjust gonna shoot my shot here. I
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will always do back to the futureof the podcast always. I think the
only way I'll ever stop doing thisshow is if I can get Michael J.
Fox, Tom Wilson and Robert Zemecka'sinterviews. If I get those three,
I think I'm gonna bring the showto a close, because how do
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you top that? Right, howdo you top it? Fed everyone else
from the cast who I've wanted totalk to on here, those are the
three that elude me. Elizabeth Showould be a good one. But it's
not like a Nassa like I don'tneed it, but I would like it.
You know, I don't need it, but I would like it.
So if I can get those three, I think I'm gonna put a bow
on this thing. We're on seasonten and I'm still working every I'm telling
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you, I try all the timeto get these people on the show.
And when I say these people,these icons on the on this little show,
maybe one day we'll get We've hadBob Gail on, which is like
probably him and Chris Lloyd, LeaThompson, Chrispin Glover. I could have
never imagined any million years talking tothese people. It is great. But
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I'm going to go ahead and we'regoing to play my interview Eli Roth from
the collection here on Back to theFuture the podcast again. I'm your friend
and time Brad Gilmour, We'll seeyou again in the future and enjoy this
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so excited to talk to this guy. I'm such a fan of him.
His movie Thanksgiving is now on digitaland Blu ray and DVD. The director
himself joins us, mister Eli RothEli, good morning to you, Hey,
good morning, hey man. Firstoff, this movie, I know
it's out for now everyone and cansee. If they didn't get into theater,
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they can get it on digital,they can get it on Blu ray
and DVD. It was such afun movie. And this is somebody who
I'm not saying that horror isn't mymy normal bag, if you will,
but I do enjoy a nice slashermovie from time to time, and this
one kind of hit me on allthe fields. It was firing on all
cylinders, and I'm sure that's somethingyou've heard a lot about. Has the
feedback for Thanksgiving been what you wantedit to be? Oh, it's incredible.
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I mean, look, you know, you never you know, making
movies this faith based system. Youjust hope to God it all worked out,
like you never know, I meanwhat people are going to think.
But you know, I have apretty good understanding of audiences and as I
just think, approach it like afan myself, Like I had been waiting
all these years to see this movie, and I've been waiting to see a
slasher film based and Thanksgiving? Whatwould I want to see? And yeah,
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it's been incredible. You never know. I'm very, very grateful that
fans came out to support it andto support new mythology. You know,
right now it's hard to get anew movie be out there. Everyone wants
sequels, they want reboots, andyou know, first studios to take a
chance and put the money out thereto advertise something new in theaters only,
it's pretty wild. And the fanscame out and supported it, and I'm
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forever grateful them. Look now I'min a situation where it's not only out
on Blu Ray, DVD and digital. It's back in theaters, which I
didn't even expect. I thought maybethey'll do a Thanksgiving your release, but
to have it out there already ispretty wild. So you know, the
fan demand was high and I'm verygrateful for it. Yeah, it's been
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much more successful, you know,just I guess had legs and it's continued
to, I think, find newviewership. And even though it just came
out, You're right, people areattached to this new mythology. And you're
right, man, Marvel has dominated, DC has dominated, the remakes have
dominated, and that's all well andgood. There's a place for that.
But I think that to have newmovies out there and have new stories and
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have what a talented cast, especiallythe young cast when we talk about and
Milo and Addison, Yeah, it'sit's it's really great. I mean,
I feel very very lucky. Andthat's the great thing about a Splasher film
is you can make that discovery.And you know, Johnny Depp started in
them, Maren elm Street. Youknow, when you start with with these
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movies, you can The great thingis you don't you don't know who's going
to live. You know and who'sgoing to die and you are you know,
associations from other things. So wegot very lucky to look Patrick Dempsey.
You're anchoring with these amazing veteran actorsPatrick Dempsey, Gina Gershaw and Rick
Houfman. And then you have otheryou know, actors like Tim Dillon that
come in for a part that areso fun. But really the joy is
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in finding someone like a nel VerLack who's the lead where you just don't
know it, you just and she'slike a young Julia Roberts. I think
she's an amazing, amazing actor withsuch an incredible future ahead of her.
You know. Part of the funis finding someone like now and then pairing
her with you know, Addison Ray, who most people know from social media,
but it's really really focused in studyingacting and really serious about acting,
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and it's terrific in the film.And then other actors like Milon Mannheim,
who everybody knows in Disney's Zombies,finally breaking out and doing something all raised
and adult, is a superb actor, and Jamaza Sineli and Gabriel Davenport,
it's Jenna Warren. It's just afantastic, fantastic group. I got really
lucky, and there was certainly thenicest bunch of kids I've ever worked with.
I mean, everyone who worked asthe Pau's been great, but this
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is a this is a really specialgroup, and I think audiences responded to
it. There's insane amounts of tiktoksand social media just about the young cast.
And that's the fun of all Rfilms. You can bring new faces
to the screen and keep the innovating. You're actually right, and as much
as you launch a new mythology,you know you're right. This can be
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the launch of a whole new generationof actors that we're going to see in
movies going on forward. I agreewith you about now. By the way,
I saw her in a Disney Plusshow called Big Shot or the Big
Shot, Big Shot. Yeah,and she was fantastic in there as a
lead, just fantastic, stole everyscene she was in. She's she's a
real deal. I mean she's aserious trained New York actor. Her her
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father's an acting teachers, an actor. I mean she comes to like an
acting family, went to high schoolperforming arts like. She's a real deal.
And her performance was so grounded andso real, and she is you
know, beautiful, like a youngJulia Roberts. But she's all she's just
got this like incredible natural beauty,almost like she's not aware of it.
And that's what it said in itsaid. The way I described her in
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the script was this is the mostbeautiful girl in school who doesn't realize she's
the most beautiful. She doesn't realizeit yet, she's no aware of how
no idea like awareness of how prettyshe is. And and she just is
just a naturally sweet person and agreat actor. So anyone you pair her
with the scene is going to bebetter. So you put her with,
you know, with Patrick Dempsey,they were so fantastic, and Rick Hoffman
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and you know, Tamasa Samlian myown Manheim. I mean, we had
a really really terrific cap and everybodyjust went for it. And that was
when I'm wrapping the actors for themovie, they go, what should we
watch Friday the thirteen? To mybloody Valentine. I was like, no,
no, no, for now.I was like, watch Betty Blue
with Batres Dahl, watch for theguys, watch watch Sorcerer a freaking watch
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five easy pieces. And they're like, what they didn't expect those to be
the recommendation to go. But theseare great inspiring performances. You watch Jack
Wilkinson and five these pieces. Lookhow much he does without saying a word.
That's the look on his face,and suddenly they're like, oh yeah,
wait, wait, we can putthat style that can be in this
movie. I can do that.So it's just sort of opening their minds
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up to the possibility of what youcan do in a slasher films. Like
the acting doesn't have to be bad. It should be great, but it
doesn't have to be overdone. Itshould just be real. You and these
kids do not know they're in ahorror film. They're not aware of it.
They're not making jokes. You justhave to play it all. You
can have fun and you can dostupid things, but you got to play
it real, like this is reallyhappening. So I got very lucky with
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the cat but I love them.I think they're all going to have,
you know, great futures. Oh. I agree that Patrick DENSI kid,
he's got something, man, he'sgot something. I can't put my finger
on it, but he gives me. He's try romantic comedy. It's not
hard film. I think he mightbe. I think he might thrive in
that. You know, when youmake slasher movies or horror films, however
you want to characterize it, typicallyas opposed to a superhero film. You
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know, the budgets aren't the same, right, you have typically a smaller
budget with horror films. But Iwanted to ask you, with that smaller
budget, does it breed more creativity? Because I feel like if you have
limitless money, you just you know, feel like you can do whatever,
and when you have constraints, itkind of breeds some more innovative thinking.
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Well, more money is more eyeball, you know, unless you're at the
Christopher Nolan level, and then there'sno pressure. You know, when you
as soon as you start getting intothat level of money, people start going
it has to make that money back, which means it has to appeal to
a wide audience, which means yougot to kind of cut the edges off
and you can't kind of take thoserisks that you could, you know,
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if a movie. Most of thesemovies are being made for I mean the
means are two hundred and fifty million, three hundred millions. June runs for
fifteen, so you know, whereyou'd have weeks to shoot a scene.
You don't have to make any decisions. You can shoot it this way,
you can shoot it that way.I think it's a great luxury to have.
But for me, like that openingBlack Friday riot with four nights the
whole thing from the moment they pullup at the store through the gunshot at
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the end of the sequence. Soit's two nights outside in the cars in
the parking lot and two nights insidefor the riot. So you have to
plan and make decisions and basically preedit the movie in your head, and
then you just got to hope itall goes right when you're shooting it.
You know, it's this organic processwhere you're staging it and running people around
and you have stung people. Youdon't know it's going to work. You
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just have to believe it's going towork and prepare for it. And it
was a very complex scene to do, but you know, thankfully it all
came together. It was a lotof planning and a great team around me.
So I like it. I mean, I like those scenes where sometimes
you only have one nice shoot ata kil SCE and you're like, I
wish I had more time and shecould have got more shot. And then
the other time, you know,all you need is a corn holder in
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the years, it's the simplest thingI shot at. Rehearse and rehearse the
footage and the stats in the ear. It took seven takes to do it
right, but we got it.And then it's adding the sound effects.
It's like, you don't need toblow up a planet, you don't need
these elaborate giant space and just needlike a crazy idea. And that's the
front of horror. Is that thebest idea? Wins? Oh Man really
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just does. Sometimes the creativity thebest idea wins. I love that.
Now, a couple last things foryou here again we're talking to Eli Roth.
You get Thanksgiving on digital, Bluray, DVD and back in theaters
as well, as he pointed outto us, now I want to I
want to ask you this, Eli, This kind of concept came from a
trailer that was shot for The Grindhouseall those years ago with Quentin Tarantino Rober
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Rodriguez. More so than did youever think this would come to fruition?
What did did you learn it?By continually working with greats like those two,
that kind of impacted your own directingstyle. Well, it's a great
question. I mean, first,you know, the idea for this is
Jeff Brandella. I wrote We weretwelve years old, and when we came
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up with the idea of doing it, thanks people Flature Film. And it
was just because we were in Massachusettswatching every other holiday and get done thinking
when are they going to do Thanksgiving? Why not Thanksgiving? So it really
was kind of out of necessity.And then when Quinton and Robert asked me
if I wanted to do a faketrailer, you know, I was like,
of course, I got it.It's Thanksgiving. We kind of already
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had it written. So in termsof what I learned from those guys,
I mean, Robert is a difference. You know. He talked kind of
the relationship with art and fear andcreativity and the importance of you know,
momentum and not overthinking things and justlike you have an idea, you write
it, you do it, youdon't stop, don't let fear paralyze you.
That was a really, really great, great lesson I ever learned from
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Robert and from Clinton. It's hereally really his shots come from the you
rehearse it with your actors get itso it's running like a real scene,
like a play, and then youstart to figure out where the camera goes.
That it's the camera moves have tobe motivated by the actors, and
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the actors have to know their backstoryand that every minor character he's as he
told me, he's like Mia Wallacedoesn't know she's gonna me in the movie
for twenty minutes. Think she's inthe mean whileas movie she thinks she's the
star of the film. And that'swhy the performance is great. And that's
how every actor has to be.They have to think that they are the
center of the movie. So youhave to know who they are, know
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the backstory, know who their friendsare, and have the actor play it
that way, and that's how youget it to all feel like a real
universe. But he would clear theset, have everyone walk in, rehearsal,
rehearsal, rehearsal. Then he bringsin his DP Bob Richardson. They're
looking at through the lenses. They'refiguring out the camera moves, but it
all comes from the actor. Andthat's one thing I try to do,
is that go to the location withthe actors. We rehearse if we run
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it, would you walk in hereand stand here. I look at Once
you've got that down, you takethe time to really figure that out,
everything goes fast, Oh man,I have I love that answer, And
Eli, I'm running ot of timewith you, but I have about thirty
forty seconds left. And I haveto ask you this because your movie house
with a clock in its walls lovethat one as well. But what I
wanted to point out about that iswhen I saw the trailer, I looked
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at the marquee on that movie theaterand it said spaceman from Pluto. That
spoke to me. I knew exactlywhat it was in reference to the Back
to the Future original title, whydid you wanted to throw that Easter egg
in? And how big of aBack to the Future fan are you?
I love Back to the Future andI also loved you know, I was
making a movie for Ambler, right, So I did that for Spielberg,
(21:47):
you know, I wanted ten tosee it and doing the movie for his
company, and I like it feltright. It felt right, you know,
for the time period of the movie. But yeah, Back to the
Future is just one of those classes. And I loved the fake title.
I love the idea that they didit under a fake title, and I
just loved the lore of that,and I wanted to, you know,
just give a little nod out tothe grade, especially a movie that takes
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place in that time period, madea lot of sense. Man well again
thanksgiving out digital Blu Ray DVD backin theaters. Eli wrote the director,
congrats on the movie success Man,and we can't wait for the sequel.
Thank you. I appreciate it workingon it. Now, have a good
one, Eli Eli Roth. Everyone
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