August 6, 2025 • 17 mins
Back to the Future: The Podcast
Produced and Hosted by Brad Gilmore
July 3rd, 1985 — the day a little time travel movie produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis changed cinema forever. Back to the Future hit theaters and instantly became a cultural phenomenon. This podcast dives deep into the world of Back to the Future — exploring the trilogy’s unforgettable characters, iconic moments, hidden details, and behind-the-scenes stories that helped make it one of the greatest film franchises of all time. So buckle in, make sure your flux capacitor is... fluxing, and enjoy the 88 mile-per-hour adventure through time.
🎉 Order the new expanded edition of Brad Gilmore’s book — Why We Love Back to the Future
Back to the Future: The Podcast is independently produced and presented by Brad Gilmore. This program is not affiliated with the Back to the Future franchise and is intended solely for entertainment and documentary purposes. All views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not reflect the opinions of any other entity or sponsor. This show respects the intellectual property rights of Universal Pictures and all creators of Back to the Future.
Produced and Hosted by Brad Gilmore
July 3rd, 1985 — the day a little time travel movie produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis changed cinema forever. Back to the Future hit theaters and instantly became a cultural phenomenon. This podcast dives deep into the world of Back to the Future — exploring the trilogy’s unforgettable characters, iconic moments, hidden details, and behind-the-scenes stories that helped make it one of the greatest film franchises of all time. So buckle in, make sure your flux capacitor is... fluxing, and enjoy the 88 mile-per-hour adventure through time.
🎉 Order the new expanded edition of Brad Gilmore’s book — Why We Love Back to the Future
Back to the Future: The Podcast is independently produced and presented by Brad Gilmore. This program is not affiliated with the Back to the Future franchise and is intended solely for entertainment and documentary purposes. All views expressed are those of the host and guests and do not reflect the opinions of any other entity or sponsor. This show respects the intellectual property rights of Universal Pictures and all creators of Back to the Future.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Stop. Stop. Okay, relax, stot, it's three Larten.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You can't just set you back to the future.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh I know you did send me back to the future,
but I'm back.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm back from the future.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Wait a minute, my gosh, five are you're telling me
that you built the time machine the.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Way I see it?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
If you're gonna buil a time machine, why not doing
some style?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, let's bring on my friend Brad gil Yeah.
Brad's with the CW thirty nine in Houston. He's also
a critics choice. He's got a new book out. Yes,
a fans look at the back of the Future franchise.
All right, it is why we love Back to the Future.
He's also hosting a SummerSlam preview show with Mama Guy
Booker T five time champion on ESPN Radio. Or our
(01:00):
pal is Brad Gilmour. Brad, how you doing? Good to
see you man? So help us out here. Okay, Naked Gun,
you're all over the movies too? Is there like Tony's question,
there is is there a generation that just is not
gonna have any idea what this movie Naked Gun is
this weekend and it's gonna hurt it at the box
office because I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
A big hit. I think it's gonna be a big hit.
But I do agree with Tony there's a whole generation
of people who have no idea what the naked gun is.
You say, Leslie Nielson, you might as well be speaking
in Mandarin. But I think when you have Liam Neeson,
you have Pam Anderson, they've been on one of the
generational press runs. Especially with them as a couple. I
think it's gonna peak everybody's interest and every I haven't
seen the movie yet, but everybody's giving it rave reviews.
(01:38):
And to me, the joke when they say man's laughter
and it's man slaughter is such a classic naked gun
joke that I think that they're gonna nail this land
in Now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Are you confirming Liam Neeson Pam Anderson they are a couple.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
They were very coy about it there. They're a coy
about it. But I don't know why Liam Neeson's being
so coy. I mean, you're talking about one of the
all time top ten dimes. We're talking about all time
fine list with Pamela Anderson. I'd be yelling it from
the mountaintops if I was him, But I think that
I'm gonna go on record of the Dan Lavatar show
Brad Gilmers confirming them as a couple. I have no
inside knowledge of that, but I'm wearing a suit, so
(02:11):
it makes me feel more legitimate.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, and you got a microphone, You're in a studio.
Everything about it screams legitimacy. I believe it. I choose
to believe Zaz. Now, Brad, your book is about Back
to the Future. I love Back to the Future. I
love it to the point where I can recite whole
sections I do any sort of prompt my guy Dave
over here, said, Oh, Mayor Goldie Willis say, said Mayor
(02:33):
Goldie Wilson. I like the sound of that, A colored mayor.
That'll be the day you'll see, mister Carruthers. I'll clean
up this town good. You can start by sleeping the floor.
I love Back to the Future. It is timeless. What
is I was thinking about actually today, sitting on the couch,
I said, is this the most not the best movie ever,
(02:53):
but the most.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Perfect movie ever? What is it? Why do people love
Back to the Future so much? Well, I think there's
a few I do agree with you. It is a
perfect movie, and if you don't take my word for it,
Quentin Tarantino said it's on his short list of perfect
movies that have ever been made. And to me, what
people love about it is, yes, we like the time travel,
we like to fantasize about it. But Bob Gail came
up with the idea for this movie when he found
(03:16):
his father's yearbook in the basement and they went to
the same high school, and he was like, what would
happen if my parents and I went to high school together?
And that is where the basis of Back to the
Future is, And it really comes down to it's a
movie about choices, just like life is how one thing
can change your entire future. And I really believe that's
what's made it last for these last four decades and
why it's so generational because everybody look effects age jokes
(03:39):
don't land, but that story will always stand the test
of time, quite literally, and I think that's why it
is a perfect movie and people come back to it
year after year.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I agree with everything that everybody is saying here about
the greatness and perfection adjacent that that movie is. The
Only issue is with Mayor Goldie as my pal. David
TRIENI the sinophile, pointed out to me many moons ago,
and he's right. What is revealed is that Goldie reaches
his dream of being the mayor, but he's a terrible mayor.
Look at the town in nineteen eighty five versus fifty five.
(04:10):
I'm going to be the mayor one day, Like well man,
it turned into crap under your watch man. It's like
a an are I mean an X rated movie house
over there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
There is also the griminess of the nineteen eighties. I
don't think we can put all that on Mayor Goldie Wilson,
because he did cleaned up the town. He did do
what he did wanted to do. We don't know how
many administrations he's in, how many times has he been elected?
What does the city council look like? There are many
factories he's making truth to power and you're giving them cover.
Are there many factors that go into it. You can't
(04:41):
all put that on Mayor Goldie Wilson. But we do
know that he started a lineage of his family where
by the third movie, or by the second movie, the
third Goldie Wilson is putting hover conversions in automobiles of
the day, so he started something and you know, for
people to aspire to whether he was a great mayor
or not. I stand by my guy Goldie propaganda.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Brad is Back to the Future two better than Back
to the Future three?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
How do you rate those two? So Back to the
Future three is my favorite of the trilogy. I know
that's going to raise a lot of eyebrows. But before
you question me too much on it. Christopher Lloyd, who
played Doc Brown, when I talked to him on my podcast,
he said Back to the Future Part three was his
favorite of the trilogy. So I feel like I'm backing
it up with some more credibility other than the suit
and the big hair. But I think that Back to
(05:24):
the Future Part two is one of the more interesting
movies ever made. I can't think of a sequel really
until you were talking about the Avengers movies. They do
this in Avengers Endgame, but where you go in the sequel,
you go back to the first movie and see it
from a different angle. It's such an interesting film, and
you can make the argument that it gave us the
more iconography, the Flying Delarey and the Mister Fusion, the
hubver Boar, the Almanac, the Pepsi Perfect, the Cafe Eighties.
(05:47):
There's a lot more iconography from Back to the Future
Part two, the maybe even its predecessor.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wow, So the book is why we'll love Back to
the Future. Have you ever if you break it down, Brad,
if you ever come across a more ridiculous plot line
than going back in time and trying not to have
sex with your mother?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You know, when you frame it that way, sure, it
can be ridiculous on its surface, but at the same time,
when you think about it, if you went back to
your high school. Okay, I'm not gonna get weird here,
but if you go back to the high school and
the person that the woman, the girl that everybody wants
to take to the Enchantment under the Seed Dance, even
if she happens to be your mother, finds you appealing, Right,
(06:29):
aren't you flattered a little bit by that? He's actually
kind of flattered by it at first. He's like, you're
so hah, you're so ha, You're so young, right, because
he didn't want to say hot because that would definitely
have made it weird. It definitely would have made it weird.
But Bob Zamechis who directs the movie. He says, the
way that you pay that storyline off, and it's his
favorite line in the movie. It's when they kiss in
the parking lot of Hill Valley High and she says,
(06:51):
when I kiss you, it's like I'm kissing my brother,
Like there's some space time continuum that told her that
somewhere down the road you're going to be related. That's
what made the movie work for him. And that's if
it's good enough for Bob Zemechis we're talking about Forrest Gump,
we're talking about Castaway, it's good enough for me. Brad.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I want to tie a threat from Naked Gun to
back to the Future because Naked Gun is seth MacFarlane
is the mind behind that. And there's a scene in
Family Guy where they come back to nineteen eighty five
and Marty's dad is like, you don't think it's weird
that the kid that we have looks exactly like the
(07:28):
dude that we saw in high school. That's the biggest
plot point. That's the biggest plot holes. It's not what
you said that. It's the idea that George McFly was
cool with.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hey name Okay, we're gonna name him Marty cool. That's
a cool name of Like, wait.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
A second, he looks exactly like Marty.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wait, come on, man, but do you remember somebody you
hung out with for a week thirty years ago in
high school. I can't even remember the name of my
best friend in high school, and we're supposed to expect
that he doesn't. He remembers Calvin Klein so intimately that
he's like, oh yeah, maybe there's a somewhat resemblance thirty
years later. I'm not by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You want to talk about creepy relationship stuff. The one
in Big Is actually does result in in vigorous love
making with a twelve year old boy. Well, she's an
adult woman, she doesn't know who lays down with a
twelve year old It's creepy the merits of that one.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, you mentioned.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Zamechis and that he's air tight and he's to be
taken so credible. But his other movie, and we already
mentioned it, Castaway, I'm bothered by the fact. Talk about relationships.
He goes his plane crashes into the sea, you know,
and he survives it somehow, and he lands on this
island and somehow survives and gets off the island and
(08:44):
he throws himself out into the waters and a boat
happens by and he's saved. It costs him, his friend,
his ball, all of it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He makes it all the way back to Nashville, Tennessee. Yes,
he goes to visit Helen Hunt.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
She's like, you missed the Super Bowl. Man, we got
a football team. You missed the whole thing. We almost
won by yard and have exit.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Hey, I don't know if you heard.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I was lost at c for the last half decade.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You're telling me about a football team. I don't give
a crap hold on that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Like you want to catch him up to all the
important things. I got married. Also, we almost beat the
greatest show on turn.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, maybe I can distract you from the from the
fact that it took me about eleven minutes to get
over your your tragic loss at sea to get remarried.
Not just to get remarried, but I've had the time
to make a baby too. From also watch a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Let me get you all cut up on what you miss.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, it's also from the departed Uh school of subtlety.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
When the movie ends with him at a literal crossroads. Yes,
yet like the rat crawling across the window there. Yeah, no,
I agree, I agree, but look, Za Mecca's also has
a lot of look more killer than filler. When you
talk about who framed Roger Rabbit, Romantic, the Stone, three,
Back to the Future movies, we're talking about all that
in the nineteen eighties going into the very first year
of the nineties, and then he follows that up with
(10:08):
Forrest Gump and then Castaway. I don't know if we
had a great run like that in some years, Like
who's a director who's done that many films in such
a short amount of time with that amount of quality.
I can't think of one in the last twenty years.
Who is it? Who is it?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
This is actually perfect cause we've been talking about this
this week, right, like, not as far as directors go,
but actors. Has anyone had a better run than wolves It?
Tom Hanks was nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Four, right, what I said about, Well, my submission, Brad
was Jim Carrey nineteen ninety four. If I ask you
to find me an actor who had three huge box
office hits in the same year on the level of
Dumb and Dumber, The Mask and ace Ventura, who do
you put up against them?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh? I'm here, I'll go ho. I'm sorry, let Brad,
I don't think you could beat that one. To be
honest with you, Jim Carrey is a phenomenal call. That's
a really phenomenal call. I'm trying to think off the
top of my head somebody who would rival that, and
it's not coming to me. I'd have to go back
and look at some of those early Leo years, because
I think there was a year where it was departed.
It was catch me if you can. Right before that
when we're talking like height of his movie stardom, But
(11:06):
as far as movies that everybody knows right off the rip,
and those are your first really three starring vehicles, I
don't think that you really beat a Jim Carrey in
the early nineties.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
If you're tethered to one calendar year, that's a different thing.
If it is a streak, the greatest movie streak for
one actor ever is Hand Solo, He Goes, He Goes,
Ford Goes Solo, Doctor Indiana Jones, Rick Deckard, and Blade Runner.
If you got to play any one of those roles,
(11:35):
one of those iconic roles in your life, that would
be the greatest. He played those three Cats three straight movies.
He and then he makes Witness, so he's John Book
hit this movie run look it up. There is no
interruption in the early eighties for what doctor Indiana Jones guy.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
On behalf of Henry Jones Junior.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Indiana was the DOGSTAD.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Appreciate that you called them doctor Jones because you know what,
he earned it. He went to you know, six years
of p of archaeology school's right to be called.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He earned that. Yeah, he definitely earned that. He earned that.
But you know what, a lot of people talk about
Indiana Jones being the best trilogy of all time. I
really take umbrage with that because you have a fourth
and fifth movie that, to me don't hold up to
the caliber of Last Crusade or Raiders. That's why Back
to the Future is the best pure trilogy out there.
If you want to talk about Godfather, the first two
are great, and then you have Godfather three. What is
(12:27):
another pure trilogy? You have like nine or twelve Star
Wars films, you have too many Avengers movies. What is
a pure trilogy that's better than Back to the Future.
I pose this question to the room.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well, Brad, let me just out I'm gonna stick up
for Godfather three. I think Godfather three is a good movie.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's not a good movie. It is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It struggles, Sophia Cobla stinks. You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You know what Godfather three's problem is, it's not Godfather
one and two.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's its problem.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
If you didn't see one and two, you just saw
Godfather three, say this is a really good movie.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Coppola is terrible and that you're right. But the but
the thing that really takes away from it. I agree
with the mean. Overall, it's a pretty good picture. The
worst thing about it is that Paccino forgets how he
played Michael Corleone in one and two. Go watch him
play three. It's like, who do you think you're doing here? Man,
You're doing al Pacino.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Go back to.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Doing the measured Michael Corleone that you used to do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Every time that I was like, oh man, he lost.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I settled down, man, Brad.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
One more thing for you here again, Brad's book fortieth
anniversary Back to the Future. Why We Love Back to
the Future forty years of fandom, flex capacitors and timeless adventures. Brad,
what's the one thing while you were putting out the book.
You're doing all your research, you're talking to people. What
have you that you learned about Back to the Future?
That was your favorite thing?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You didn't know before it was that George Hamilton was
going to be cast as Doc Brown and be his
Consolieria No. I think the most interesting thing that I
found out was the original title of the film was
back to the Future. But the studio executive Since Steinberg
at the time, said that movie that title makes no
what is the movie about? How do you go back
to the future? That doesn't make any sense. So he
(14:04):
sent a note to Spielberg and Zamechas and said, I
have the perfect name for this movie. It'll make it
the number one movie of all time and this name
will ring true for decades and decades after the fact.
And his idea for the movie, serious as a heart attack,
was Spaceman from Pluto. He said, that's the perfect title
for this movie, and they all were freaking out because
(14:24):
he had some other good ideas. He changed a Doc
Brown's chimp to a dog. So it went from Shemp
to Einstein that we know. It went from Eileen to
the Rain that was after his wife. It went from
the Springtime in Paris, dance to the Enchantment under the
Seed Dance. He was really all killer, no filler, But
then he came with spaceman from Pluto and to me,
the filmmakers from what I found out, were shocked by this.
(14:45):
They didn't know how they were going to get out
of it. So Spielberg sent him a facts something they
used to do in the eighties and I'm sure all
you gentlemen are familiar with. And they said, thanks for
the joke. It really brightened up our spirits. And they
never heard from Sid Schinberg again and it was called
back to the future from then on out.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Wow, Wow, did you ever hear the stories? You talk
Spielberg and you know Indiana Jones and all that. Are
you aware of the transcript that exists of Spielberg And
when they're putting together the character of Indiana Jones and
what's his name, George Lucas is saying, well, he has
(15:21):
to be edgy. Indiana Jones has to be edgy, and
Marian who is his? They catch up in where are
they Burma or wherever they are not Burma Nepaul right
top in the mountain to bat Yes, when they meet
If you look at the language in that bar when
they meet, it's pretty clear that what they're trying to
pay off is what George Lucas wanted, which is that
(15:42):
Mary And when they first met, was twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I was a child. I was in love, right, it
was wrong, and you know it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You O me, yeah, this is I like this man.
That's right, But that is true that she was that
George Lucas wanted his backstory to be that he dated
a twelve year old girl. And spiel this is true.
Look up the transcript. You can find it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Brad.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Are you aware of this?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I am aware of it, and I am disturbed as
everybody should be. But I will say a better story
for me from Indiana Jones is that they're sitting on
a beach. George Lucas says to Steven Spielberg, I know
you want to direct the James Bond movie. I got
a better idea. I have an idea about an archaeologist
named Indiana Smith, a little bit off on the title.
But then in the third movie, the father of Indiana
(16:25):
Jones quite literally is James Bond. I love how they
brought that all back together.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Bred excellent job, man, tell everybody how they get the
book again. Why we love Back to the Future.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, available wherever books are sold. Amazon's the easiest one.
We have interviews with the cash crew. We talk about
the three movies, we talk about the animated series, the musical,
the video game, and so much more. I really appreciate
it if you take it out.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, and if you're into obviously WW like me. He
and Booker T tomorrow doing a pre show SummerSlam pre
show on ESPN Radio. There it is five time champions,
five time good scene to Brad. Thanks man, Thanks Brad,
Thanks guys,
Stop. Stop. Okay, relax, stot, it's three Larten.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You can't just set you back to the future.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh I know you did send me back to the future,
but I'm back.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm back from the future.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Wait a minute, my gosh, five are you're telling me
that you built the time machine the.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Way I see it?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
If you're gonna buil a time machine, why not doing
some style?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, let's bring on my friend Brad gil Yeah.
Brad's with the CW thirty nine in Houston. He's also
a critics choice. He's got a new book out. Yes,
a fans look at the back of the Future franchise.
All right, it is why we love Back to the Future.
He's also hosting a SummerSlam preview show with Mama Guy
Booker T five time champion on ESPN Radio. Or our
(01:00):
pal is Brad Gilmour. Brad, how you doing? Good to
see you man? So help us out here. Okay, Naked Gun,
you're all over the movies too? Is there like Tony's question,
there is is there a generation that just is not
gonna have any idea what this movie Naked Gun is
this weekend and it's gonna hurt it at the box
office because I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
A big hit. I think it's gonna be a big hit.
But I do agree with Tony there's a whole generation
of people who have no idea what the naked gun is.
You say, Leslie Nielson, you might as well be speaking
in Mandarin. But I think when you have Liam Neeson,
you have Pam Anderson, they've been on one of the
generational press runs. Especially with them as a couple. I
think it's gonna peak everybody's interest and every I haven't
seen the movie yet, but everybody's giving it rave reviews.
(01:38):
And to me, the joke when they say man's laughter
and it's man slaughter is such a classic naked gun
joke that I think that they're gonna nail this land
in Now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Are you confirming Liam Neeson Pam Anderson they are a couple.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
They were very coy about it there. They're a coy
about it. But I don't know why Liam Neeson's being
so coy. I mean, you're talking about one of the
all time top ten dimes. We're talking about all time
fine list with Pamela Anderson. I'd be yelling it from
the mountaintops if I was him, But I think that
I'm gonna go on record of the Dan Lavatar show
Brad Gilmers confirming them as a couple. I have no
inside knowledge of that, but I'm wearing a suit, so
(02:11):
it makes me feel more legitimate.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, and you got a microphone, You're in a studio.
Everything about it screams legitimacy. I believe it. I choose
to believe Zaz. Now, Brad, your book is about Back
to the Future. I love Back to the Future. I
love it to the point where I can recite whole
sections I do any sort of prompt my guy Dave
over here, said, Oh, Mayor Goldie Willis say, said Mayor
(02:33):
Goldie Wilson. I like the sound of that, A colored mayor.
That'll be the day you'll see, mister Carruthers. I'll clean
up this town good. You can start by sleeping the floor.
I love Back to the Future. It is timeless. What
is I was thinking about actually today, sitting on the couch,
I said, is this the most not the best movie ever,
(02:53):
but the most.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Perfect movie ever? What is it? Why do people love
Back to the Future so much? Well, I think there's
a few I do agree with you. It is a
perfect movie, and if you don't take my word for it,
Quentin Tarantino said it's on his short list of perfect
movies that have ever been made. And to me, what
people love about it is, yes, we like the time travel,
we like to fantasize about it. But Bob Gail came
up with the idea for this movie when he found
(03:16):
his father's yearbook in the basement and they went to
the same high school, and he was like, what would
happen if my parents and I went to high school together?
And that is where the basis of Back to the
Future is, And it really comes down to it's a
movie about choices, just like life is how one thing
can change your entire future. And I really believe that's
what's made it last for these last four decades and
why it's so generational because everybody look effects age jokes
(03:39):
don't land, but that story will always stand the test
of time, quite literally, and I think that's why it
is a perfect movie and people come back to it
year after year.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I agree with everything that everybody is saying here about
the greatness and perfection adjacent that that movie is. The
Only issue is with Mayor Goldie as my pal. David
TRIENI the sinophile, pointed out to me many moons ago,
and he's right. What is revealed is that Goldie reaches
his dream of being the mayor, but he's a terrible mayor.
Look at the town in nineteen eighty five versus fifty five.
(04:10):
I'm going to be the mayor one day, Like well man,
it turned into crap under your watch man. It's like
a an are I mean an X rated movie house
over there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
There is also the griminess of the nineteen eighties. I
don't think we can put all that on Mayor Goldie Wilson,
because he did cleaned up the town. He did do
what he did wanted to do. We don't know how
many administrations he's in, how many times has he been elected?
What does the city council look like? There are many
factories he's making truth to power and you're giving them cover.
Are there many factors that go into it. You can't
(04:41):
all put that on Mayor Goldie Wilson. But we do
know that he started a lineage of his family where
by the third movie, or by the second movie, the
third Goldie Wilson is putting hover conversions in automobiles of
the day, so he started something and you know, for
people to aspire to whether he was a great mayor
or not. I stand by my guy Goldie propaganda.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Brad is Back to the Future two better than Back
to the Future three?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
How do you rate those two? So Back to the
Future three is my favorite of the trilogy. I know
that's going to raise a lot of eyebrows. But before
you question me too much on it. Christopher Lloyd, who
played Doc Brown, when I talked to him on my podcast,
he said Back to the Future Part three was his
favorite of the trilogy. So I feel like I'm backing
it up with some more credibility other than the suit
and the big hair. But I think that Back to
(05:24):
the Future Part two is one of the more interesting
movies ever made. I can't think of a sequel really
until you were talking about the Avengers movies. They do
this in Avengers Endgame, but where you go in the sequel,
you go back to the first movie and see it
from a different angle. It's such an interesting film, and
you can make the argument that it gave us the
more iconography, the Flying Delarey and the Mister Fusion, the
hubver Boar, the Almanac, the Pepsi Perfect, the Cafe Eighties.
(05:47):
There's a lot more iconography from Back to the Future
Part two, the maybe even its predecessor.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wow, So the book is why we'll love Back to
the Future. Have you ever if you break it down, Brad,
if you ever come across a more ridiculous plot line
than going back in time and trying not to have
sex with your mother?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You know, when you frame it that way, sure, it
can be ridiculous on its surface, but at the same time,
when you think about it, if you went back to
your high school. Okay, I'm not gonna get weird here,
but if you go back to the high school and
the person that the woman, the girl that everybody wants
to take to the Enchantment under the Seed Dance, even
if she happens to be your mother, finds you appealing, Right,
(06:29):
aren't you flattered a little bit by that? He's actually
kind of flattered by it at first. He's like, you're
so hah, you're so ha, You're so young, right, because
he didn't want to say hot because that would definitely
have made it weird. It definitely would have made it weird.
But Bob Zamechis who directs the movie. He says, the
way that you pay that storyline off, and it's his
favorite line in the movie. It's when they kiss in
the parking lot of Hill Valley High and she says,
(06:51):
when I kiss you, it's like I'm kissing my brother,
Like there's some space time continuum that told her that
somewhere down the road you're going to be related. That's
what made the movie work for him. And that's if
it's good enough for Bob Zemechis we're talking about Forrest Gump,
we're talking about Castaway, it's good enough for me. Brad.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I want to tie a threat from Naked Gun to
back to the Future because Naked Gun is seth MacFarlane
is the mind behind that. And there's a scene in
Family Guy where they come back to nineteen eighty five
and Marty's dad is like, you don't think it's weird
that the kid that we have looks exactly like the
(07:28):
dude that we saw in high school. That's the biggest
plot point. That's the biggest plot holes. It's not what
you said that. It's the idea that George McFly was
cool with.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hey name Okay, we're gonna name him Marty cool. That's
a cool name of Like, wait.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
A second, he looks exactly like Marty.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wait, come on, man, but do you remember somebody you
hung out with for a week thirty years ago in
high school. I can't even remember the name of my
best friend in high school, and we're supposed to expect
that he doesn't. He remembers Calvin Klein so intimately that
he's like, oh yeah, maybe there's a somewhat resemblance thirty
years later. I'm not by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You want to talk about creepy relationship stuff. The one
in Big Is actually does result in in vigorous love
making with a twelve year old boy. Well, she's an
adult woman, she doesn't know who lays down with a
twelve year old It's creepy the merits of that one.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, you mentioned.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Zamechis and that he's air tight and he's to be
taken so credible. But his other movie, and we already
mentioned it, Castaway, I'm bothered by the fact. Talk about relationships.
He goes his plane crashes into the sea, you know,
and he survives it somehow, and he lands on this
island and somehow survives and gets off the island and
(08:44):
he throws himself out into the waters and a boat
happens by and he's saved. It costs him, his friend,
his ball, all of it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He makes it all the way back to Nashville, Tennessee. Yes,
he goes to visit Helen Hunt.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
She's like, you missed the Super Bowl. Man, we got
a football team. You missed the whole thing. We almost
won by yard and have exit.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Hey, I don't know if you heard.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I was lost at c for the last half decade.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You're telling me about a football team. I don't give
a crap hold on that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Like you want to catch him up to all the
important things. I got married. Also, we almost beat the
greatest show on turn.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, maybe I can distract you from the from the
fact that it took me about eleven minutes to get
over your your tragic loss at sea to get remarried.
Not just to get remarried, but I've had the time
to make a baby too. From also watch a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Let me get you all cut up on what you miss.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, it's also from the departed Uh school of subtlety.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
When the movie ends with him at a literal crossroads. Yes,
yet like the rat crawling across the window there. Yeah, no,
I agree, I agree, but look, Za Mecca's also has
a lot of look more killer than filler. When you
talk about who framed Roger Rabbit, Romantic, the Stone, three,
Back to the Future movies, we're talking about all that
in the nineteen eighties going into the very first year
of the nineties, and then he follows that up with
(10:08):
Forrest Gump and then Castaway. I don't know if we
had a great run like that in some years, Like
who's a director who's done that many films in such
a short amount of time with that amount of quality.
I can't think of one in the last twenty years.
Who is it? Who is it?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
This is actually perfect cause we've been talking about this
this week, right, like, not as far as directors go,
but actors. Has anyone had a better run than wolves It?
Tom Hanks was nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Four, right, what I said about, Well, my submission, Brad
was Jim Carrey nineteen ninety four. If I ask you
to find me an actor who had three huge box
office hits in the same year on the level of
Dumb and Dumber, The Mask and ace Ventura, who do
you put up against them?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh? I'm here, I'll go ho. I'm sorry, let Brad,
I don't think you could beat that one. To be
honest with you, Jim Carrey is a phenomenal call. That's
a really phenomenal call. I'm trying to think off the
top of my head somebody who would rival that, and
it's not coming to me. I'd have to go back
and look at some of those early Leo years, because
I think there was a year where it was departed.
It was catch me if you can. Right before that
when we're talking like height of his movie stardom, But
(11:06):
as far as movies that everybody knows right off the rip,
and those are your first really three starring vehicles, I
don't think that you really beat a Jim Carrey in
the early nineties.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
If you're tethered to one calendar year, that's a different thing.
If it is a streak, the greatest movie streak for
one actor ever is Hand Solo, He Goes, He Goes,
Ford Goes Solo, Doctor Indiana Jones, Rick Deckard, and Blade Runner.
If you got to play any one of those roles,
(11:35):
one of those iconic roles in your life, that would
be the greatest. He played those three Cats three straight movies.
He and then he makes Witness, so he's John Book
hit this movie run look it up. There is no
interruption in the early eighties for what doctor Indiana Jones guy.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
On behalf of Henry Jones Junior.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Indiana was the DOGSTAD.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Appreciate that you called them doctor Jones because you know what,
he earned it. He went to you know, six years
of p of archaeology school's right to be called.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He earned that. Yeah, he definitely earned that. He earned that.
But you know what, a lot of people talk about
Indiana Jones being the best trilogy of all time. I
really take umbrage with that because you have a fourth
and fifth movie that, to me don't hold up to
the caliber of Last Crusade or Raiders. That's why Back
to the Future is the best pure trilogy out there.
If you want to talk about Godfather, the first two
are great, and then you have Godfather three. What is
(12:27):
another pure trilogy? You have like nine or twelve Star
Wars films, you have too many Avengers movies. What is
a pure trilogy that's better than Back to the Future.
I pose this question to the room.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well, Brad, let me just out I'm gonna stick up
for Godfather three. I think Godfather three is a good movie.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's not a good movie. It is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It struggles, Sophia Cobla stinks. You know what.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You know what Godfather three's problem is, it's not Godfather
one and two.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's its problem.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
If you didn't see one and two, you just saw
Godfather three, say this is a really good movie.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Coppola is terrible and that you're right. But the but
the thing that really takes away from it. I agree
with the mean. Overall, it's a pretty good picture. The
worst thing about it is that Paccino forgets how he
played Michael Corleone in one and two. Go watch him
play three. It's like, who do you think you're doing here? Man,
You're doing al Pacino.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Go back to.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Doing the measured Michael Corleone that you used to do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Every time that I was like, oh man, he lost.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I settled down, man, Brad.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
One more thing for you here again, Brad's book fortieth
anniversary Back to the Future. Why We Love Back to
the Future forty years of fandom, flex capacitors and timeless adventures. Brad,
what's the one thing while you were putting out the book.
You're doing all your research, you're talking to people. What
have you that you learned about Back to the Future?
That was your favorite thing?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You didn't know before it was that George Hamilton was
going to be cast as Doc Brown and be his
Consolieria No. I think the most interesting thing that I
found out was the original title of the film was
back to the Future. But the studio executive Since Steinberg
at the time, said that movie that title makes no
what is the movie about? How do you go back
to the future? That doesn't make any sense. So he
(14:04):
sent a note to Spielberg and Zamechas and said, I
have the perfect name for this movie. It'll make it
the number one movie of all time and this name
will ring true for decades and decades after the fact.
And his idea for the movie, serious as a heart attack,
was Spaceman from Pluto. He said, that's the perfect title
for this movie, and they all were freaking out because
(14:24):
he had some other good ideas. He changed a Doc
Brown's chimp to a dog. So it went from Shemp
to Einstein that we know. It went from Eileen to
the Rain that was after his wife. It went from
the Springtime in Paris, dance to the Enchantment under the
Seed Dance. He was really all killer, no filler, But
then he came with spaceman from Pluto and to me,
the filmmakers from what I found out, were shocked by this.
(14:45):
They didn't know how they were going to get out
of it. So Spielberg sent him a facts something they
used to do in the eighties and I'm sure all
you gentlemen are familiar with. And they said, thanks for
the joke. It really brightened up our spirits. And they
never heard from Sid Schinberg again and it was called
back to the future from then on out.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Wow, Wow, did you ever hear the stories? You talk
Spielberg and you know Indiana Jones and all that. Are
you aware of the transcript that exists of Spielberg And
when they're putting together the character of Indiana Jones and
what's his name, George Lucas is saying, well, he has
(15:21):
to be edgy. Indiana Jones has to be edgy, and
Marian who is his? They catch up in where are
they Burma or wherever they are not Burma Nepaul right
top in the mountain to bat Yes, when they meet
If you look at the language in that bar when
they meet, it's pretty clear that what they're trying to
pay off is what George Lucas wanted, which is that
(15:42):
Mary And when they first met, was twelve years old.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I was a child. I was in love, right, it
was wrong, and you know it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You O me, yeah, this is I like this man.
That's right, But that is true that she was that
George Lucas wanted his backstory to be that he dated
a twelve year old girl. And spiel this is true.
Look up the transcript. You can find it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Brad.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Are you aware of this?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I am aware of it, and I am disturbed as
everybody should be. But I will say a better story
for me from Indiana Jones is that they're sitting on
a beach. George Lucas says to Steven Spielberg, I know
you want to direct the James Bond movie. I got
a better idea. I have an idea about an archaeologist
named Indiana Smith, a little bit off on the title.
But then in the third movie, the father of Indiana
(16:25):
Jones quite literally is James Bond. I love how they
brought that all back together.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Bred excellent job, man, tell everybody how they get the
book again. Why we love Back to the Future.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, available wherever books are sold. Amazon's the easiest one.
We have interviews with the cash crew. We talk about
the three movies, we talk about the animated series, the musical,
the video game, and so much more. I really appreciate
it if you take it out.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, and if you're into obviously WW like me. He
and Booker T tomorrow doing a pre show SummerSlam pre
show on ESPN Radio. There it is five time champions,
five time good scene to Brad. Thanks man, Thanks Brad,
Thanks guys,
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