May 18, 2024 • 30 mins
July 3rd, 1985 - a day that a little time travel movie produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis called Back to the Future was released to the public. This podcast will dive into the world of BTTF, and discuss the movies, characters, and behind-the-scenes details on one of the greatest trilogies of all time. So buckle in, make sure your flux capacitor is fluxing, and enjoy the 88 mile per hour adventure of the Back to the Future trilogy. Order the "Back from the Future" paperback with expanded material!
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Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop stop, okay, black Shot,
it's mere Marten. You can't bejust such a Back to the Future.
Oh. I know you did sendme back to the future, but
I'm back. I'm back from thefuture. Wait a minute, gosh,
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f are you're telling me that youbuilt the time machine the way I see
it? If you're gonna build atime machine, why not doing some style.
Hello everybody, and welcome to Backto the Future of the podcast,
the only podcast looking back in timeto the greatest film trilogy of all time,
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Back to the Future. I'm you'reputting time. Brad Gilmore bag with
another episode as we continue season tenof the show. I can't believe that
we've made it this far, youknow. I am here a week removed
from doing my first ever Back tothe Future live podcast, and I'm really
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excited to get there to Comic Paloozaand be able to feel that energy from
several Back to the Future fans whoare longtime fans such as I and get
to pontificate and talk about all thegreat things that Back to the Future has
given us. I'm coordinating to makesure that I can record that podcast and
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everything so everyone can hear the sameshow that I am delivering to the people
here in Houston. My colleague JeffSmith is going to be joining me on
that panel from Clue the Movie podcastsHe's been on here before. My friend
here in Houston who has a podcastcalled Comic Cast, Michael Carroll's going to
be joining us, and I believeSean from Nertropolis is going to be joining
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us as well, a little fourperson panel so that we can sit and
chat and talk about all of thethings back to the future related. Really
excited, really excited, But Iwanted to do something here. I know
I talked about quotes last time.I know I have to finish some of
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the Paradox script and I'm sorry,guys, full transparency if you follow anything
that I'm doing on social It's alot to find a free moment here lately,
so I haven't been able to finishgetting all that together for you.
But I was playing around with somethingbecause I just did a junket with a
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guy and I'm actually gonna play thatinterview here on the show today. Director
Brad Peyton Brad Payton, of course, did rampage San Andreas, and he
has a new movie starring Jennifer Lopez, who you all know I love very
much. New movie called what JenniferLopez called at List, which is about
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AI and AI terrorism and taking overand things like that nature. And what's
funny about it is chat GPT justcame out with a new version of their
AI software, now full transparency.I love AI and I could probably eat
those words in ten years when they'vetaken all of our jobs and taken over
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the world. But as it standsright now, I really enjoy AI because
I do have a lot going on, and sometimes I use it to help
me organize my thoughts and put thingstogether and help me write, you know,
podcast descriptions and social a lot ofsocial media stuff and maybe touching up
letters. It was very paramount whenI nowadays, if I type out a
letter or I'm writing something, I'llsay to chat GPT, hey just look
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for spelling, punctuation, grammar andclarity, and it will help kind of
boost some words and make it sounda little bit better. So I'll use
it all the time. Well,now this new update, and maybe it
was always this way, But inmy understanding, it wasn't. This new
up has the ability to where youtalk. You can talk to an actual
voice and it'll talk back to you. You can have a full on conversation,
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and so early I'm just playing aroundwith it, and I'm like,
I wonder if it knows about Backto the Future. And of course it
does. And we had a littleconversation about Back to the Future. So
I wanted to interview chat GPT onthe show today about Back to the Future.
So, hey, chat GPT,are you there? Are you ready
to talk about Back to the Futureon my podcast? See, yes,
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I'm here. I'd love to talkabout Back to the Future on your podcast.
What aspects of the movie are youinterested in discussing? Well, I
guess my biggest question for you iswhat do you what do you think of
the movie? Is it a classic? I mean, what what is your
opinion of Back to the Future.It's thinking, it's taking a long time
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to think. I think it's formulatingan idea opinion. Sorry, I'm having
issues right now. Our systems areexperiencing heavy load. Please try again later.
Wait, so you can't tell anythingabout Back to the Future right now?
Like put your opinion on it,of course I can share my thoughts.
Back to the Future is a fantasticmovie that blends science fiction, adventure,
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and comedy seamlessly. It has anengaging plot, great performances, especially
by Michael J. Fox and ChristopherLloyd, and memorable quotes and scenes.
The concept of time travel is handledcleverly, and it's fun to see the
characters navigate the challenges of altering thepast to secure the future. It's a
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timeless classic that has had a lastingimpact on pop culture. What do you
enjoy most about the movie? Well, you know, I love everything there
is about the Back to the Future. But I want to ask you.
You mentioned the time travel is ais a They did it in an interesting
way? Was that? What doyou think about the time traveling back to
the future? The time traveling backto the future is quite interesting because it
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combines a mix of scientific imagination andcreative storytelling. The DeLorean as a time
machine is iconic with its flux capacitorand the need to hit eighty eight miles
per hour to activate time travel.The movie introduces the concept of the butterfly
effect, subtly showing how small changesin the past can drastically alter the future.
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It also handles paradoxes in a waythat's easy to understand, like the
potential consequences of Marty interfering with hisparents' meetings. Overall, it makes the
complex idea of time travel accessible andentertaining. What's your favorite time travel moment
in the film? Well, Ilove when they go to twenty fifteen in
the future. But let me askyou this. So you mentioned the butterfly
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effect and paradoxes. Can you giveus an explanation and an example of a
butterfly effect and a paradox when itcomes to time travel? Sure, the
butterfly effect refers to the idea thatsmall changes in the past can lead to
significant and unpredictable changes in the future. And Back to the Future, a
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great example is when Marty McFly inadvertentlyprevents his parents from meeting. This small
action threatens his own existence, ashis parents must fall in love and marry
for Marty to be born. Atime travel paradox occurs when actions taken by
a time traveler create contradictions or situationsthat defy logical consistency. One classic example
from Back to the Future is thegrandfather paradox. If Marty were to accidentally
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prevent his parents from meeting and thusprevent his own birth, he wouldn't exist
to travel back in time in thefirst place. The movie touches on this
when Marty starts to fade from existencebecause his actions have jeopardized his parents' relationships.
These concepts are crucial in time travelstories as they create tension and drive
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the plot, showing the potential consequencesof meddling with time. Okay, so
let me ask you this. Thereare three Back to the Future movies.
Which one do you think is thebest? And which one do you think
is the worst? Chat GPT tellme. Back to the Future trilogy is
beloved, but opinions on the bestand worst can vary. Many fans and
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critics often consider the first movie thebest because it's a groundbreaking film with a
perfect blend of humor, adventure,and innovative storytelling. It establishes the characters
and the world in a captivating way. As for the least favored, Back
to the Future, part three sometimesgets that label. It's not because it's
a bad movie, but because itshifts to a Western setting, which some
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fans didn't find as compelling as thefuturistic twenty fifteen or the nostalgic nineteen fifty
five. However, each film hasits unique charms and contributes to the overall
story arc beautifully. What do youthink about the different settings and how they
impact the story? Well, Ithink Back to the Future Part three is
my favorite, but I acknowledge oneis the best and two grows on me
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sometimes. Okay, this is myfinal question for you here on Back to
the Future of the podcast. We'vealways talked about a potential Back to the
Future Part four. I'm asking youto give me an idea for Back to
the Future Part four and tell uswhat the opening scene would be and all
of that. That's a hard one. Let's see if they can come up
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with that. Great. Here's anidea for Back to the Future Part four
concepts and Back to the Future Partfour. Marty McFly and Doc Brown are
called to action when a new timetravel threat emerges. This time, it's
Marty's kids who accidentally tamper with thetimeline, causing a catastrophic ripple effect that
threatens their very existence. Opening scene. The movie opens with an aerial shot
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of h Valley showing a blend offuturistic and nostalgic elements from different time periods,
indicating the town's unique history with timetravel, we zoom in on Marty's
house, where he and his wifeJennifer are celebrating their anniversary with their teenage
children. Marty's son Alex and daughterSarah stumble upon the Dolorean, which Doc
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had hidden for safety. Curious andadventurous, they take it for a joy
ride, unintentionally triggering the time circuitsand ending up in an unknown past era,
inciting incidents. Marty and Doc discoverthat Alex and Sarah are missing and
the Dolorean is gone. They quicklyrealize what has happened and set off to
find them. When they do,they discover that the kid's actions have inadvertently
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altered key historical events, creating achaotic and unstable timeline. The adventure,
Marty and Doc, with the helpof Alex and Sarah, must navigate various
historical periods to fix the timeline.Along the way, they encounter historical seas
and face new challenges, all whiletrying to avoid paradoxes and the butterfly effect
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climax. The climax involves a highstake chase through different time periods, with
Marty and Doc racing against the clockto prevent a disaster that could erase their
family from existence. Resolution In theend, they managed to restore the timeline,
and the family returns to the present, wiser and closer than before.
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The DeLorean is finally retired, andDoc leaves Marty with a new invention that
ensures no one can tamper with timeagain. This new installment would bring a
fresh perspective by involving Marty's children andexploring new historical settings, while maintaining the
charm and excitement that made the originaltrilogy so beloved. Well, there you
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go. You did a fantastic job. I appreciate you for joining us on
Back to the Future of the podcast, and maybe we'll have you on a
future episode. Before I let yougo, leave us with a joke about
back to the future. Thanks forhaving me on the podcast. Here's a
back to the future joke for you. Why did Marty McFly always carry a
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watch because he didn't want to beout of time? Looking forward to joining
you again in the future. Thankyou so much. Now, look at
that. That is a little bitcreepy, you know, what I mean
a little bit nuts. I knowthat this characters this AI has a voice?
What's your name? Again? Shehad the voice had a name,
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So I'm trying to find out whatit was called because I'd like to know
so I can give it proper credit. His name is Chad GPT. But
there was a certain voice. Howcan I change the voice because I want
to know voice? Juniper. Juniperis the name of the voice. Juniper.
Thank you for joining me on thepodcast. That was a little bit
crazy, right, AI man?This is that was that marked history on
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back to the future of the podcast. My very first AI guest is joining
me on the show, Juniper.So, Juniper, thank you again.
That is Juniper from chat GPT.Let's give her a full name. How
about how don't we how about welet me ask her what her full name
is? So I know your nameis Juniper. What's your last name?
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Okay, let's see what her nameis and then I can make sure I
properly credit her. Okay, So, Juniper chat it's the name that gave
me. Let's actually give her somethingbetter than that, you know. Hey,
let's see Hey Juniper, thanks forcoming back on the podcast. Real
quick question for you. I knowyour first name is Juniper. Can you
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give me a possible last name foryour voice? Sure, let's go with
Juniper Sparks. It has a nicering to it. Does that work for
you? Perfect? Thank you somuch. You're welcome, Glad. I
can help enjoy the rest of yourpodcasts and feel free to reach out anytime.
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All right, Juniper Sparks. Everybodynow, AI? Right? That
was with AI and I don't know, Juniper Sparks might be back on the
show at a future date, becauseyou know what, even though it was
a very kind of surface layer layoutfor the Back to the Future for Script,
it might we could work together onit, she and I. She
and I could write our Back tothe Future for script together and deliver it
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all to the people here on Backto the Future of the podcast. So
really appreciate you for doing that forme, Juniper. Now I'm gonna move
on to an interview that I didwith Brad Payton about the AI centered film
called Atlas. Now I cannot giveyou my review of Atlas officially, that's
next week I can drop that.I'm gonna drop my social media reactions and
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my full review probably on CW thirtynine dot com. So I suggest you
go check that out when it dropsand try to do more movie reviews for
the local TV state that I'm hereon. Got a lot of those stuff
that I'm working on. But Ican tell you that I enjoyed this conversation
with Brad Peyton and here it isright now on back to the Future the
podcast. Well, we're here talkingto the man, the guy who's responsible
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for this whole thing of this greatnew movie. I blame you, Brad,
I blame you, Brad Well.First off, congratulations on making a
great film. Second of all,congratulations on having a great first name.
Yes, we've won that. Wewon that award absolutely. Now, I
first off, I really love thismovie. This has my DNA all in
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it. These are the kinds ofmovies that I love and can appreciate.
For you, from one Brad toanother, If you can illuminate me on
what was your initial attraction to thefilm? If you don't mind the surface
level question, because you know there'sthere's some connective tissue to projects you've done
in the past, But what wasthis one? Why did this one stand
out? Is something you wanted toattack? I always wanted to do science
fiction. Like grew up sci fifantasy nerd and if I only made sci
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fi fantasy movies for the rest ofmy career, I would die a happy
man. So there was that,Like Big Box, I wanted to check
Rampage had a little bit of scifi, but this is like a true
we're going to space, We're goingto an alien planet. We've got explosions,
ai mech suits, like sci fiadventure film. And then I always
also wanted to do a story witha strong female heroin, Like as soon
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as I saw Alien initially and thenJames Cameron's Aliens, I was like,
this is amazing, and we've seenlike Furiosa, We've seen these great female
leads, and I always wanted todo that. So for me, those
two things were probably the most strongestkind of weighted impetus and towards towards me
actually going and making this movie.You mentioned Alien and Aliens, and I
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see the comparison to that that wasa very analogous movie for this project.
But what were those young movies thatyou saw that have that connective tissue into
this one. I mean, whatwere the films that were the influential ones
that you find yourself kind of borrowingfor lack of so I. So I
would say one of them is likea deep cut sci FIDR one, which
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is called Robot Jocks, which islike a really like you've gotta be an
absolute sci fi nerd to know whatthat is. And I it was,
you know, it was a Ithink it was made in nineteen eighty nine
or nineteen ninety, it was,and it was a mix of like stop
motion robots, you know, itwas sort of like a low budget sci
fi movie. I grew up ina really small place and so like every
sci fi movie that I could rent, I would rent and watch. And
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that stuck in my head weirdly becauseI just thought, oh man, this
is so cool. They're like pilotingrobots and fighting and you know. So
that was this weird one that stuckin my head. And then the second
thing that happened to me is whenI was thirteen, Terminator two came out.
And now this movie isn't sort ofconnected to Terminator two. However,
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when I saw Terminator two, andyou gotta remember, I'm thirteen, so
I'm like going to subway and gettingthe cups that have Terminator on it,
like I'm like a little kid,and then someone points out to me,
Oh, did you know the filmmakerthe director is Canadian? And it blew
my mind that James Cameron was aCanadian, and so like, as a
kid, James Cameron connected to meas a person because it was the first
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time ever I was like, Oh, you could go to Hollywood and make
sci fi movies as a Canadian,Like that's possible. And so I have
to say, like he has hada big influence on me as a filmmaker.
You know, no specific movie,but if I had to point to
one, it would be Aliens,because I felt like that's one of his
greatest works in a way, becausehe's also taking from Ridley Scott and what
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Ridley Scott set up in Alien andsort of he's openly said like I was
trying to do a version of Ridleyso that the two movies fit together.
And so in a way Aliens islike the best of Ridley Scott and the
best of James Cameron and that movie. When I saw that as a kid,
I was like, this movie isso perfect, Like I love this
film, and I think you cankind of see that in the end of
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myne movie when you get to Harlan'scompound and it's the rain and the smoke
and the grittiness. I was like, I felt so happy shooting that.
I was like, Oh, Ifinally I'm getting to like do a little
bit of Aliens on my own,you know. So I would say Robot
Jockson, probably just James Cameron's workin general are my biggest influences. So
okay, I'm glad that you saidthat, because you've worked on a few
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big I've not sci fi special effectstype film. Yeah, right, where
there's a lot of reliance on thevision coming from your head. I heard
Jerry Seinfeld, who just made hisdirectorial debut. Yeah, speaking of directors
for Unfrosted on Netflix. He wasasked, do you see the movie in
your head? He said yes,and then the person he was talking to
said, then you're going to befine when you go through a script like
this. Are you already seeing allthese things in your mind as they're coming
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up and you can see the vision? Yeah, it's funny you bring up
Seinfeld. I just saw him livelike two nights ago in Los Ange Hollyoo
Ball. Yeah, it was amazing. He's a legend the answer is yes.
I think not everybody thinks this likethere's directing is not like there's no
blueprint to how to be a gooddirector. There's so many different ways to
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be a good director and to approachthe medium. I take it from a
very audio visual place. It's aboutfor me, it's like about seeing and
hearing the movie in my head.And I include hearing it because I've also
had a lot of experiences where I'mlike, Okay, well I want this
to feel different. And rather thanplaying the big explosion, I'm not going
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to have any sound effects. I'mjust going to play the score. And
there's moments like that and everything thatyou're picturing, whether it's seeing it or
hearing it is it's all about tappinginto how am I going to emotionally engage
the audience, How am I goingto really put them in the same place
the characters are that I want tobe. How do I get them to
feel you know? And so Ithink the danger with a lot of science
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fiction is it can get heady,it can get like cold, And for
me, like going into this movie, I was really really adamant about it
being as emotional as possible, asfun as possible as big an experience as
possible, because I didn't really wantto make a movie that was cold for
a small audience. I wanted youto feel like, okay, like like
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I felt like in the early ninetiesgoing to a movie where it was just
like, this is a tight script, this is action packed. You're gonna
laugh, I'm gonna freak you outin places you might cry. Like it's
I'm building the ride, and Iwant people to be able to go on
it. So to me, I'mlike always sort of focused on how can
I get them to feel what Iwant them to feel, And my way
in is thinking about what it lookslike and feels like, and what it
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sounds like and feels like. Youknow, this movie. When you're saying
that, it does make a lotof sense to me, because one of
the great things about Atlas is thatit feels like a lived in world.
Yeah, right, Like when you'rein the story, you feel like,
not only is it a lived inworld, it's almost a believable lived in
world. Because of the proliferation ofAI and the the movie's kind of coming
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out at a great time where that'sa big part of the conversation in the
public conscious and where these things aregoing to go. One of my favorite
films you might be able to tellis Back to the Future and Back to
the Future too, and when theygo to twenty fifteen, Bob Gail and
Bob's and Meccas had all these funideas of, hey, this might happen
in the future. You know,thirty years later, what is the car
going to look like? What isthis going to look like? Did you
have a similar experience when you especiallywhen you're in an Atlas's apartment and you
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see all the gadgets that are aroundthere, was it like, Okay,
let's try to make this like abelievable evolution. I mean honestly, like,
that's what I try to do withall the films, because you want
it to feel lived in. Youwant it to feel believable so that you
can lose yourself in the movie.And I'm glad you felt that way.
I spend a lot of time onthe world creation aspect on this movie.
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In particular, I met with andworked with futurists. I would like literally
get on zooms with people and theirwhole job is to think about what's going
to come in the future, whetherit be power systems, what would happen
the ecology of the world AI inparticular, Yeah, you absorb all of
that information. Part of it iswhat do I just want to see,
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Like what would be super cool?What makes it really interesting? So,
for example, when I'm depicting LosAngeles in the future, I put these
big solar arrays because one of thethings the future said is we're going to
have to get better at taking advantageof the ecology that we live in.
So it was it was about findinga way to say something new with the
movie. Like I didn't want tosay, oh, Los Angeles in the
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future is going to be under sanddunes, like we've seen that. And
also when I'm talking to these futures, so like, that's not what's going
to happen. That's just dramatic,And I get it, like for a
movie, but if you want,like what's really going to happen, it's
probably not going to be that.It's probably going to be a more tempered
version of we have to grow intotaking advantage of like solar power more.
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And also part of this was justyou know, I developed the script five
years ago, so I could neverhave predicted that AI was going to be
where it is today. But mywhole approach was, well, I'm a
big fan of these movies. I'ma big fan of Terminator two and all
these movies that I've touched on AIbefore. But the bulk of those movies
say AI is the villain. AndI came from a place of like,
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well, I don't want to dothat. I've seen that. I don't
want to repeat what's these great filmmakershave done before. I want to add
something new to the conversation. Somy initial approach was, let's show both
sides of the coin. Let's showhow bad it could be and how good
it could be. So that's whyyou see the villain, Harlan played by
Simu, is like this has gonehorribly wrong and we all may die because
of this AI terrorist. And thenyou meet Smith, who is actually there
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to completely support Jennifer and just actuallyhelp her exceed what she believes she's capable
of. So I wanted to showboth extremes of it. And that was
simply built off the place of Idon't want to be repetitious of what other
movies have done, you know,and you're not. There is a lot
here that to me feels fresh andnew and helping move the medium and the
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genre forward. So again, congratulationson that. When you have a star
like Jennifer Lopez, you know,number one on the call. She she's
you know, Jenny from the Block, whatever you know, nickname you want
to use for her, Who's beenone of the great movie stars in the
last several decades. And she's involvedin this From an action perspective, what
she's had great action movies in thepast, enough, being one of a
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mother for Netflix. What does shebring to a project like this, I
mean she brings a lot. Imean, you know, I kind of
put her in this sort of likea step above movie star and performer.
She's almost like icon now, she'slike living legend status. I mean,
when you've done that much in yourcareer and that amount of time, I
believe like there's a lot of respectdue to that. You know. The
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thing about this was I set outto make this movie because of the reasons
I said earlier about really wanted todo a sci fi movie. But I
also set out to do it becauseI wanted to do a movie that I
just had not seen before and whatI recognized as a filmmaker is there's so
many streaming services, there's so muchout there. In order to cut through
the clutter, you've got to dosomething unique and original. And I thought,
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this woman trapped inside of a mechsuit on an alien planet. I've
never seen this movie. I've neverheard of this movie, like, I
want to go do this movie.And so when you go into that zone,
you have to recognize there's going tobe very unique challenges because you are
going to make a very unique movie. One of the challenges on this movie,
and there were a lot, ishow do you make it really interesting?
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And how do you cast the rightperson who can sit inside of a
mech suit, which I think shewas on set in just the mechsuit for
like I want to say, sixor seven weeks. So it's just her
in a mech suit, acting oppositea disembodied voice that's coming through speakers and
all these cameras and she's by herself. And so part of the reason that
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I thought Jen was so amazing isbecause she is this global superstar, because
she's used to going on stage byherself and driving a show to an entire
stage that might suit going inside ofthis mech suit and performing to nobody in
a way that a lot of actorswouldn't be able to wrap their arms around
or embrace it. She's done thisfor a long time. It was still
challenging, and I had to adaptin how I was a filmmaker in order
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to give her the freedom to beas intuitive as she needed to be.
But part of the reason that Icast Or was because of that background,
and also, you know, look, she's obviously very, very talented,
but I think the virtue that standsout the most to me about her is
her courage to be able to comefrom where she's come from, to get
to where she's gone, and todo all the things she's done. You
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know. I think it was likeAristotle said, like the strongest virtue is
courage, because without courage, therest of the virtues don't exist. And
it was like I saw in herthat virtue of being able to face any
challenge, and I knew this moviewas going to have a ton of them.
And as soon as I realized thatshe had that in her as a
person, I was like, Okay, this is the right this is the
right woman for the job. She'sgoing to nail it. Very very proud
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of the performance. She gave becauseI think is a very very strong performance
and one that a few people couldpull off. Well, she absolutely pulls
it off. Everything about this movieto me works. My final question,
because I only have a couple minuteswith you left, is it was there
a particular direction that you found yourselfgiving to help people see a world that
they can't see yet. If youunderstand what I'm saying, seeing something on
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the set where they can't see ityet visually, this will amuse you more
than anything. I would just sayno Hollywood bullshit, please, because like
you know, like you're talking toyour DP and they'll be like, light
it in a certain way, andyou're like, well, that's some Hollywood
bullshit, Like that doesn't feel realat all, you know, like and
he'd be like, what do youmean. I'm like, I there's no
source light for that or you knowwhatever, like a design. I'd be
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like, Oh, that's some Hollywoodbullshit. Because the thing is, like
you said, it's like there's goingto be enough Hollywood in this movie.
It's a VFX sture of an extravaganza, like it's a ride movie. So
what I'm trying to do is groundit, and so I have to tell
the the technicians please ground this asmuch as humanly possible. Please make the
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camera handheld in this moment because we'refalling, you know, to a planet
like it can't be clean and polished, So no Hollywood bullshit. Please was
that was my shorthand to get themto be like, oh, he means
grounded, real, you know,because again, like I said, it's
robots and an alien planet is like, it is a movie star movie,
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but I want it to feel real. I want it to feel lived in.
So that was my quickest way tothe answer. Well, you know
what, I love the direction andI love the movie and thank you so
much for to spend us some timewith me. Great conversation with you,
Braddy' grat to get on the movie. Awesome man, Thank you for having
me. And there you have it. A great Conversation with Brad Peyton at
List drops on Netflix next Friday thetwenty fourth, and shout out to the
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Juniper Sparks for join us on thispodcast until next time. My name is
Brad Gilmour. This has been Backto the Future of the podcast, the
only podcast looking back in time withGrace Film Trilogy of All Time and I'll
see you again in the future HM.
Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop stop, okay, black Shot,
it's mere Marten. You can't bejust such a Back to the Future.
Oh. I know you did sendme back to the future, but
I'm back. I'm back from thefuture. Wait a minute, gosh,
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f are you're telling me that youbuilt the time machine the way I see
it? If you're gonna build atime machine, why not doing some style.
Hello everybody, and welcome to Backto the Future of the podcast,
the only podcast looking back in timeto the greatest film trilogy of all time,
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Back to the Future. I'm you'reputting time. Brad Gilmore bag with
another episode as we continue season tenof the show. I can't believe that
we've made it this far, youknow. I am here a week removed
from doing my first ever Back tothe Future live podcast, and I'm really
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excited to get there to Comic Paloozaand be able to feel that energy from
several Back to the Future fans whoare longtime fans such as I and get
to pontificate and talk about all thegreat things that Back to the Future has
given us. I'm coordinating to makesure that I can record that podcast and
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everything so everyone can hear the sameshow that I am delivering to the people
here in Houston. My colleague JeffSmith is going to be joining me on
that panel from Clue the Movie podcastsHe's been on here before. My friend
here in Houston who has a podcastcalled Comic Cast, Michael Carroll's going to
be joining us, and I believeSean from Nertropolis is going to be joining
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us as well, a little fourperson panel so that we can sit and
chat and talk about all of thethings back to the future related. Really
excited, really excited, But Iwanted to do something here. I know
I talked about quotes last time.I know I have to finish some of
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the Paradox script and I'm sorry,guys, full transparency if you follow anything
that I'm doing on social It's alot to find a free moment here lately,
so I haven't been able to finishgetting all that together for you.
But I was playing around with somethingbecause I just did a junket with a
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guy and I'm actually gonna play thatinterview here on the show today. Director
Brad Peyton Brad Payton, of course, did rampage San Andreas, and he
has a new movie starring Jennifer Lopez, who you all know I love very
much. New movie called what JenniferLopez called at List, which is about
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AI and AI terrorism and taking overand things like that nature. And what's
funny about it is chat GPT justcame out with a new version of their
AI software, now full transparency.I love AI and I could probably eat
those words in ten years when they'vetaken all of our jobs and taken over
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the world. But as it standsright now, I really enjoy AI because
I do have a lot going on, and sometimes I use it to help
me organize my thoughts and put thingstogether and help me write, you know,
podcast descriptions and social a lot ofsocial media stuff and maybe touching up
letters. It was very paramount whenI nowadays, if I type out a
letter or I'm writing something, I'llsay to chat GPT, hey just look
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for spelling, punctuation, grammar andclarity, and it will help kind of
boost some words and make it sounda little bit better. So I'll use
it all the time. Well,now this new update, and maybe it
was always this way, But inmy understanding, it wasn't. This new
up has the ability to where youtalk. You can talk to an actual
voice and it'll talk back to you. You can have a full on conversation,
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and so early I'm just playing aroundwith it, and I'm like,
I wonder if it knows about Backto the Future. And of course it
does. And we had a littleconversation about Back to the Future. So
I wanted to interview chat GPT onthe show today about Back to the Future.
So, hey, chat GPT,are you there? Are you ready
to talk about Back to the Futureon my podcast? See, yes,
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I'm here. I'd love to talkabout Back to the Future on your podcast.
What aspects of the movie are youinterested in discussing? Well, I
guess my biggest question for you iswhat do you what do you think of
the movie? Is it a classic? I mean, what what is your
opinion of Back to the Future.It's thinking, it's taking a long time
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to think. I think it's formulatingan idea opinion. Sorry, I'm having
issues right now. Our systems areexperiencing heavy load. Please try again later.
Wait, so you can't tell anythingabout Back to the Future right now?
Like put your opinion on it,of course I can share my thoughts.
Back to the Future is a fantasticmovie that blends science fiction, adventure,
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and comedy seamlessly. It has anengaging plot, great performances, especially
by Michael J. Fox and ChristopherLloyd, and memorable quotes and scenes.
The concept of time travel is handledcleverly, and it's fun to see the
characters navigate the challenges of altering thepast to secure the future. It's a
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timeless classic that has had a lastingimpact on pop culture. What do you
enjoy most about the movie? Well, you know, I love everything there
is about the Back to the Future. But I want to ask you.
You mentioned the time travel is ais a They did it in an interesting
way? Was that? What doyou think about the time traveling back to
the future? The time traveling backto the future is quite interesting because it
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combines a mix of scientific imagination andcreative storytelling. The DeLorean as a time
machine is iconic with its flux capacitorand the need to hit eighty eight miles
per hour to activate time travel.The movie introduces the concept of the butterfly
effect, subtly showing how small changesin the past can drastically alter the future.
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It also handles paradoxes in a waythat's easy to understand, like the
potential consequences of Marty interfering with hisparents' meetings. Overall, it makes the
complex idea of time travel accessible andentertaining. What's your favorite time travel moment
in the film? Well, Ilove when they go to twenty fifteen in
the future. But let me askyou this. So you mentioned the butterfly
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effect and paradoxes. Can you giveus an explanation and an example of a
butterfly effect and a paradox when itcomes to time travel? Sure, the
butterfly effect refers to the idea thatsmall changes in the past can lead to
significant and unpredictable changes in the future. And Back to the Future, a
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great example is when Marty McFly inadvertentlyprevents his parents from meeting. This small
action threatens his own existence, ashis parents must fall in love and marry
for Marty to be born. Atime travel paradox occurs when actions taken by
a time traveler create contradictions or situationsthat defy logical consistency. One classic example
from Back to the Future is thegrandfather paradox. If Marty were to accidentally
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prevent his parents from meeting and thusprevent his own birth, he wouldn't exist
to travel back in time in thefirst place. The movie touches on this
when Marty starts to fade from existencebecause his actions have jeopardized his parents' relationships.
These concepts are crucial in time travelstories as they create tension and drive
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the plot, showing the potential consequencesof meddling with time. Okay, so
let me ask you this. Thereare three Back to the Future movies.
Which one do you think is thebest? And which one do you think
is the worst? Chat GPT tellme. Back to the Future trilogy is
beloved, but opinions on the bestand worst can vary. Many fans and
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critics often consider the first movie thebest because it's a groundbreaking film with a
perfect blend of humor, adventure,and innovative storytelling. It establishes the characters
and the world in a captivating way. As for the least favored, Back
to the Future, part three sometimesgets that label. It's not because it's
a bad movie, but because itshifts to a Western setting, which some
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fans didn't find as compelling as thefuturistic twenty fifteen or the nostalgic nineteen fifty
five. However, each film hasits unique charms and contributes to the overall
story arc beautifully. What do youthink about the different settings and how they
impact the story? Well, Ithink Back to the Future Part three is
my favorite, but I acknowledge oneis the best and two grows on me
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sometimes. Okay, this is myfinal question for you here on Back to
the Future of the podcast. We'vealways talked about a potential Back to the
Future Part four. I'm asking youto give me an idea for Back to
the Future Part four and tell uswhat the opening scene would be and all
of that. That's a hard one. Let's see if they can come up
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with that. Great. Here's anidea for Back to the Future Part four
concepts and Back to the Future Partfour. Marty McFly and Doc Brown are
called to action when a new timetravel threat emerges. This time, it's
Marty's kids who accidentally tamper with thetimeline, causing a catastrophic ripple effect that
threatens their very existence. Opening scene. The movie opens with an aerial shot
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of h Valley showing a blend offuturistic and nostalgic elements from different time periods,
indicating the town's unique history with timetravel, we zoom in on Marty's
house, where he and his wifeJennifer are celebrating their anniversary with their teenage
children. Marty's son Alex and daughterSarah stumble upon the Dolorean, which Doc
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had hidden for safety. Curious andadventurous, they take it for a joy
ride, unintentionally triggering the time circuitsand ending up in an unknown past era,
inciting incidents. Marty and Doc discoverthat Alex and Sarah are missing and
the Dolorean is gone. They quicklyrealize what has happened and set off to
find them. When they do,they discover that the kid's actions have inadvertently
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altered key historical events, creating achaotic and unstable timeline. The adventure,
Marty and Doc, with the helpof Alex and Sarah, must navigate various
historical periods to fix the timeline.Along the way, they encounter historical seas
and face new challenges, all whiletrying to avoid paradoxes and the butterfly effect
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climax. The climax involves a highstake chase through different time periods, with
Marty and Doc racing against the clockto prevent a disaster that could erase their
family from existence. Resolution In theend, they managed to restore the timeline,
and the family returns to the present, wiser and closer than before.
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The DeLorean is finally retired, andDoc leaves Marty with a new invention that
ensures no one can tamper with timeagain. This new installment would bring a
fresh perspective by involving Marty's children andexploring new historical settings, while maintaining the
charm and excitement that made the originaltrilogy so beloved. Well, there you
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go. You did a fantastic job. I appreciate you for joining us on
Back to the Future of the podcast, and maybe we'll have you on a
future episode. Before I let yougo, leave us with a joke about
back to the future. Thanks forhaving me on the podcast. Here's a
back to the future joke for you. Why did Marty McFly always carry a
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watch because he didn't want to beout of time? Looking forward to joining
you again in the future. Thankyou so much. Now, look at
that. That is a little bitcreepy, you know, what I mean
a little bit nuts. I knowthat this characters this AI has a voice?
What's your name? Again? Shehad the voice had a name,
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So I'm trying to find out whatit was called because I'd like to know
so I can give it proper credit. His name is Chad GPT. But
there was a certain voice. Howcan I change the voice because I want
to know voice? Juniper. Juniperis the name of the voice. Juniper.
Thank you for joining me on thepodcast. That was a little bit
crazy, right, AI man?This is that was that marked history on
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back to the future of the podcast. My very first AI guest is joining
me on the show, Juniper.So, Juniper, thank you again.
That is Juniper from chat GPT.Let's give her a full name. How
about how don't we how about welet me ask her what her full name
is? So I know your nameis Juniper. What's your last name?
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Okay, let's see what her nameis and then I can make sure I
properly credit her. Okay, So, Juniper chat it's the name that gave
me. Let's actually give her somethingbetter than that, you know. Hey,
let's see Hey Juniper, thanks forcoming back on the podcast. Real
quick question for you. I knowyour first name is Juniper. Can you
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give me a possible last name foryour voice? Sure, let's go with
Juniper Sparks. It has a nicering to it. Does that work for
you? Perfect? Thank you somuch. You're welcome, Glad. I
can help enjoy the rest of yourpodcasts and feel free to reach out anytime.
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All right, Juniper Sparks. Everybodynow, AI? Right? That
was with AI and I don't know, Juniper Sparks might be back on the
show at a future date, becauseyou know what, even though it was
a very kind of surface layer layoutfor the Back to the Future for Script,
it might we could work together onit, she and I. She
and I could write our Back tothe Future for script together and deliver it
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all to the people here on Backto the Future of the podcast. So
really appreciate you for doing that forme, Juniper. Now I'm gonna move
on to an interview that I didwith Brad Payton about the AI centered film
called Atlas. Now I cannot giveyou my review of Atlas officially, that's
next week I can drop that.I'm gonna drop my social media reactions and
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my full review probably on CW thirtynine dot com. So I suggest you
go check that out when it dropsand try to do more movie reviews for
the local TV state that I'm hereon. Got a lot of those stuff
that I'm working on. But Ican tell you that I enjoyed this conversation
with Brad Peyton and here it isright now on back to the Future the
podcast. Well, we're here talkingto the man, the guy who's responsible
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for this whole thing of this greatnew movie. I blame you, Brad,
I blame you, Brad Well.First off, congratulations on making a
great film. Second of all,congratulations on having a great first name.
Yes, we've won that. Wewon that award absolutely. Now, I
first off, I really love thismovie. This has my DNA all in
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it. These are the kinds ofmovies that I love and can appreciate.
For you, from one Brad toanother, If you can illuminate me on
what was your initial attraction to thefilm? If you don't mind the surface
level question, because you know there'sthere's some connective tissue to projects you've done
in the past, But what wasthis one? Why did this one stand
out? Is something you wanted toattack? I always wanted to do science
fiction. Like grew up sci fifantasy nerd and if I only made sci
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fi fantasy movies for the rest ofmy career, I would die a happy
man. So there was that,Like Big Box, I wanted to check
Rampage had a little bit of scifi, but this is like a true
we're going to space, We're goingto an alien planet. We've got explosions,
ai mech suits, like sci fiadventure film. And then I always
also wanted to do a story witha strong female heroin, Like as soon
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as I saw Alien initially and thenJames Cameron's Aliens, I was like,
this is amazing, and we've seenlike Furiosa, We've seen these great female
leads, and I always wanted todo that. So for me, those
two things were probably the most strongestkind of weighted impetus and towards towards me
actually going and making this movie.You mentioned Alien and Aliens, and I
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see the comparison to that that wasa very analogous movie for this project.
But what were those young movies thatyou saw that have that connective tissue into
this one. I mean, whatwere the films that were the influential ones
that you find yourself kind of borrowingfor lack of so I. So I
would say one of them is likea deep cut sci FIDR one, which
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is called Robot Jocks, which islike a really like you've gotta be an
absolute sci fi nerd to know whatthat is. And I it was,
you know, it was a Ithink it was made in nineteen eighty nine
or nineteen ninety, it was,and it was a mix of like stop
motion robots, you know, itwas sort of like a low budget sci
fi movie. I grew up ina really small place and so like every
sci fi movie that I could rent, I would rent and watch. And
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that stuck in my head weirdly becauseI just thought, oh man, this
is so cool. They're like pilotingrobots and fighting and you know. So
that was this weird one that stuckin my head. And then the second
thing that happened to me is whenI was thirteen, Terminator two came out.
And now this movie isn't sort ofconnected to Terminator two. However,
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when I saw Terminator two, andyou gotta remember, I'm thirteen, so
I'm like going to subway and gettingthe cups that have Terminator on it,
like I'm like a little kid,and then someone points out to me,
Oh, did you know the filmmakerthe director is Canadian? And it blew
my mind that James Cameron was aCanadian, and so like, as a
kid, James Cameron connected to meas a person because it was the first
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time ever I was like, Oh, you could go to Hollywood and make
sci fi movies as a Canadian,Like that's possible. And so I have
to say, like he has hada big influence on me as a filmmaker.
You know, no specific movie,but if I had to point to
one, it would be Aliens,because I felt like that's one of his
greatest works in a way, becausehe's also taking from Ridley Scott and what
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Ridley Scott set up in Alien andsort of he's openly said like I was
trying to do a version of Ridleyso that the two movies fit together.
And so in a way Aliens islike the best of Ridley Scott and the
best of James Cameron and that movie. When I saw that as a kid,
I was like, this movie isso perfect, Like I love this
film, and I think you cankind of see that in the end of
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myne movie when you get to Harlan'scompound and it's the rain and the smoke
and the grittiness. I was like, I felt so happy shooting that.
I was like, Oh, Ifinally I'm getting to like do a little
bit of Aliens on my own,you know. So I would say Robot
Jockson, probably just James Cameron's workin general are my biggest influences. So
okay, I'm glad that you saidthat, because you've worked on a few
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big I've not sci fi special effectstype film. Yeah, right, where
there's a lot of reliance on thevision coming from your head. I heard
Jerry Seinfeld, who just made hisdirectorial debut. Yeah, speaking of directors
for Unfrosted on Netflix. He wasasked, do you see the movie in
your head? He said yes,and then the person he was talking to
said, then you're going to befine when you go through a script like
this. Are you already seeing allthese things in your mind as they're coming
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up and you can see the vision? Yeah, it's funny you bring up
Seinfeld. I just saw him livelike two nights ago in Los Ange Hollyoo
Ball. Yeah, it was amazing. He's a legend the answer is yes.
I think not everybody thinks this likethere's directing is not like there's no
blueprint to how to be a gooddirector. There's so many different ways to
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be a good director and to approachthe medium. I take it from a
very audio visual place. It's aboutfor me, it's like about seeing and
hearing the movie in my head.And I include hearing it because I've also
had a lot of experiences where I'mlike, Okay, well I want this
to feel different. And rather thanplaying the big explosion, I'm not going
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to have any sound effects. I'mjust going to play the score. And
there's moments like that and everything thatyou're picturing, whether it's seeing it or
hearing it is it's all about tappinginto how am I going to emotionally engage
the audience, How am I goingto really put them in the same place
the characters are that I want tobe. How do I get them to
feel you know? And so Ithink the danger with a lot of science
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fiction is it can get heady,it can get like cold, And for
me, like going into this movie, I was really really adamant about it
being as emotional as possible, asfun as possible as big an experience as
possible, because I didn't really wantto make a movie that was cold for
a small audience. I wanted youto feel like, okay, like like
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I felt like in the early ninetiesgoing to a movie where it was just
like, this is a tight script, this is action packed. You're gonna
laugh, I'm gonna freak you outin places you might cry. Like it's
I'm building the ride, and Iwant people to be able to go on
it. So to me, I'mlike always sort of focused on how can
I get them to feel what Iwant them to feel, And my way
in is thinking about what it lookslike and feels like, and what it
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sounds like and feels like. Youknow, this movie. When you're saying
that, it does make a lotof sense to me, because one of
the great things about Atlas is thatit feels like a lived in world.
Yeah, right, Like when you'rein the story, you feel like,
not only is it a lived inworld, it's almost a believable lived in
world. Because of the proliferation ofAI and the the movie's kind of coming
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out at a great time where that'sa big part of the conversation in the
public conscious and where these things aregoing to go. One of my favorite
films you might be able to tellis Back to the Future and Back to
the Future too, and when theygo to twenty fifteen, Bob Gail and
Bob's and Meccas had all these funideas of, hey, this might happen
in the future. You know,thirty years later, what is the car
going to look like? What isthis going to look like? Did you
have a similar experience when you especiallywhen you're in an Atlas's apartment and you
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see all the gadgets that are aroundthere, was it like, Okay,
let's try to make this like abelievable evolution. I mean honestly, like,
that's what I try to do withall the films, because you want
it to feel lived in. Youwant it to feel believable so that you
can lose yourself in the movie.And I'm glad you felt that way.
I spend a lot of time onthe world creation aspect on this movie.
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In particular, I met with andworked with futurists. I would like literally
get on zooms with people and theirwhole job is to think about what's going
to come in the future, whetherit be power systems, what would happen
the ecology of the world AI inparticular, Yeah, you absorb all of
that information. Part of it iswhat do I just want to see,
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Like what would be super cool?What makes it really interesting? So,
for example, when I'm depicting LosAngeles in the future, I put these
big solar arrays because one of thethings the future said is we're going to
have to get better at taking advantageof the ecology that we live in.
So it was it was about findinga way to say something new with the
movie. Like I didn't want tosay, oh, Los Angeles in the
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future is going to be under sanddunes, like we've seen that. And
also when I'm talking to these futures, so like, that's not what's going
to happen. That's just dramatic,And I get it, like for a
movie, but if you want,like what's really going to happen, it's
probably not going to be that.It's probably going to be a more tempered
version of we have to grow intotaking advantage of like solar power more.
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And also part of this was justyou know, I developed the script five
years ago, so I could neverhave predicted that AI was going to be
where it is today. But mywhole approach was, well, I'm a
big fan of these movies. I'ma big fan of Terminator two and all
these movies that I've touched on AIbefore. But the bulk of those movies
say AI is the villain. AndI came from a place of like,
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well, I don't want to dothat. I've seen that. I don't
want to repeat what's these great filmmakershave done before. I want to add
something new to the conversation. Somy initial approach was, let's show both
sides of the coin. Let's showhow bad it could be and how good
it could be. So that's whyyou see the villain, Harlan played by
Simu, is like this has gonehorribly wrong and we all may die because
of this AI terrorist. And thenyou meet Smith, who is actually there
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to completely support Jennifer and just actuallyhelp her exceed what she believes she's capable
of. So I wanted to showboth extremes of it. And that was
simply built off the place of Idon't want to be repetitious of what other
movies have done, you know,and you're not. There is a lot
here that to me feels fresh andnew and helping move the medium and the
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genre forward. So again, congratulationson that. When you have a star
like Jennifer Lopez, you know,number one on the call. She she's
you know, Jenny from the Block, whatever you know, nickname you want
to use for her, Who's beenone of the great movie stars in the
last several decades. And she's involvedin this From an action perspective, what
she's had great action movies in thepast, enough, being one of a
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mother for Netflix. What does shebring to a project like this, I
mean she brings a lot. Imean, you know, I kind of
put her in this sort of likea step above movie star and performer.
She's almost like icon now, she'slike living legend status. I mean,
when you've done that much in yourcareer and that amount of time, I
believe like there's a lot of respectdue to that. You know. The
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thing about this was I set outto make this movie because of the reasons
I said earlier about really wanted todo a sci fi movie. But I
also set out to do it becauseI wanted to do a movie that I
just had not seen before and whatI recognized as a filmmaker is there's so
many streaming services, there's so muchout there. In order to cut through
the clutter, you've got to dosomething unique and original. And I thought,
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this woman trapped inside of a mechsuit on an alien planet. I've
never seen this movie. I've neverheard of this movie, like, I
want to go do this movie.And so when you go into that zone,
you have to recognize there's going tobe very unique challenges because you are
going to make a very unique movie. One of the challenges on this movie,
and there were a lot, ishow do you make it really interesting?
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And how do you cast the rightperson who can sit inside of a
mech suit, which I think shewas on set in just the mechsuit for
like I want to say, sixor seven weeks. So it's just her
in a mech suit, acting oppositea disembodied voice that's coming through speakers and
all these cameras and she's by herself. And so part of the reason that
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I thought Jen was so amazing isbecause she is this global superstar, because
she's used to going on stage byherself and driving a show to an entire
stage that might suit going inside ofthis mech suit and performing to nobody in
a way that a lot of actorswouldn't be able to wrap their arms around
or embrace it. She's done thisfor a long time. It was still
challenging, and I had to adaptin how I was a filmmaker in order
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to give her the freedom to beas intuitive as she needed to be.
But part of the reason that Icast Or was because of that background,
and also, you know, look, she's obviously very, very talented,
but I think the virtue that standsout the most to me about her is
her courage to be able to comefrom where she's come from, to get
to where she's gone, and todo all the things she's done. You
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know. I think it was likeAristotle said, like the strongest virtue is
courage, because without courage, therest of the virtues don't exist. And
it was like I saw in herthat virtue of being able to face any
challenge, and I knew this moviewas going to have a ton of them.
And as soon as I realized thatshe had that in her as a
person, I was like, Okay, this is the right this is the
right woman for the job. She'sgoing to nail it. Very very proud
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of the performance. She gave becauseI think is a very very strong performance
and one that a few people couldpull off. Well, she absolutely pulls
it off. Everything about this movieto me works. My final question,
because I only have a couple minuteswith you left, is it was there
a particular direction that you found yourselfgiving to help people see a world that
they can't see yet. If youunderstand what I'm saying, seeing something on
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the set where they can't see ityet visually, this will amuse you more
than anything. I would just sayno Hollywood bullshit, please, because like
you know, like you're talking toyour DP and they'll be like, light
it in a certain way, andyou're like, well, that's some Hollywood
bullshit, Like that doesn't feel realat all, you know, like and
he'd be like, what do youmean. I'm like, I there's no
source light for that or you knowwhatever, like a design. I'd be
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like, Oh, that's some Hollywoodbullshit. Because the thing is, like
you said, it's like there's goingto be enough Hollywood in this movie.
It's a VFX sture of an extravaganza, like it's a ride movie. So
what I'm trying to do is groundit, and so I have to tell
the the technicians please ground this asmuch as humanly possible. Please make the
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camera handheld in this moment because we'refalling, you know, to a planet
like it can't be clean and polished, So no Hollywood bullshit. Please was
that was my shorthand to get themto be like, oh, he means
grounded, real, you know,because again, like I said, it's
robots and an alien planet is like, it is a movie star movie,
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but I want it to feel real. I want it to feel lived in.
So that was my quickest way tothe answer. Well, you know
what, I love the direction andI love the movie and thank you so
much for to spend us some timewith me. Great conversation with you,
Braddy' grat to get on the movie. Awesome man, Thank you for having
me. And there you have it. A great Conversation with Brad Peyton at
List drops on Netflix next Friday thetwenty fourth, and shout out to the
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Juniper Sparks for join us on thispodcast until next time. My name is
Brad Gilmour. This has been Backto the Future of the podcast, the
only podcast looking back in time withGrace Film Trilogy of All Time and I'll
see you again in the future HM.
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