Tuned to 88 MPH: The Time Travel Radio Hour

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
This is Bob Gail, co creator Back to the Future, and
you're listening to Brad Gilmore.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Stop stop, okay, black Stock, it's me, great Martin.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You can't be just such a bat to the future.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
Oh. I know you did send me back to the.

Speaker 5 (00:14):
Future, but I'm back.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
I'm back from the future.

Speaker 6 (00:20):
A right.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Wait minute, wait, gosh, fuck?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Are you telling me that you built the time machine.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
The way I see it? If you're gonna build a
time machine, why not doing some style? Hello everybody, you're
welcome to you back up the podcasting only podcast Looking
Back in Time to Grace film trilogy of All Time
Back into the Future. I am your friend in time.
Brad Gilmour, the author of Why We Love, Back to
the Future, forty years of flex Capacity, Oh excuse me,

(00:54):
forty years of fandom, flex Capacitors and Timeless Adventures. Available
wherever books are sold. If you want to go grab
a copy on Amazon. You can keep us on the
charts over there. We hit number one in our category,
which I was in incredibly thankful for. So make sure
that you continue to do that what I wanted to
do today. This is a kind of a cool thing,

(01:17):
I guess for everyone to check out, because I kind
of for my day job in radio and television, I
do a lot of celebrity interviews, as I'm sure you'll
remember from this podcast how I got a lot of
the great guests from the Back to the Future world
on here. And normally you do these things in like

(01:40):
media tours. Right start off, I was doing a lot
of radio tours. Now I do a lot of junkets,
and I do, you know, less radio tours than I
used to, But I still love the radio format obviously
the podcast format. Love those kind of interviews where you're
just listening and it brings people in. So anyway, for
this book, I was not the interviewer, but the interviewe

(02:06):
and I got to do a radio tour where I
talk to people all over the country and it was
an interesting format. Again, I've always been on one side
of it, so it's kind of cool to see the
other side of it and be the subject in instead
of the subjected, or be the subject instead of.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
The interviewer would probably be a better way to say it.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
And so what I was able to do was able
to get some audio from some of those interviews that
I did and kind of compile them so you could
kind of hear conversations with what people maybe who aren't
as some of them are, some of them aren't nerdy
about back to the future as we are. You can
kind of go and and hear from different radio hosts

(02:49):
from around the country and we just you know, engage
in casual conversations about back to the Future. So I
hope you enjoy this radio tour I got of the Dolorean.
I went all across the nation to talk about why
we Love Back to the Future. The audio quality is
up and down depending on the station I was talking to.
The last interview, their audio is really quiet. I try

(03:09):
to bring it up as much as I could, it
was having difficulty doing it, so just bear with me
on that last one. But here we go. Let's get
ready for this ride through time, this radio ride through time.
Here on back to the Future.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Pot How are you, my man?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
We're talking? Is the full name of the book is
Why We Love Back to the Future. Forty years of fandom,
flux capacitors and timeless adventures.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
That's the one man, that's the one Vini.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
I love it. I just met Doc Brown for the
first time. Christopher Lloyd at a con, you know, and
many years back, I was fortunate enough to have right
right here in this studio with me, Michael J. Fox himself,
and I really I geeked out. It was kind of
you know, I totally geeked out.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
You know what's crazy, Vinny is in the book. I
actually like go into I had the opportunity. I've had
the opportunity to interview Chris Lloyd before, but never in person,
and last year would kind of set my love back
for Back to the Future, although it never left.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
But one of the things that did.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It was they were here in Houston at a attic
con called Comic Palooza. I went ahead and wanted to
go meet them, and then that was just such an
exhilarating experience for me. I was like, you know what,
I need to go back and I needed I need
to get this book out to the people.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Oh yeah, I can't wait to check it out. I'm
hoping it arrives today or tomorrow, you know, before we
even get into the book too. Being a huge you
got to be a huge fan. Is Brad Kilmoury wrote
a book about loving Back to the Future forty years
of fandom and it is true. I remember the night.
I remember the night I went to the theater and
fought that movie. I was a high school senior. I

(04:47):
was a senior senior year and leaving and knowing I
just saw. You know, somethings are really special. Just everything
from Huey Lewis's tune to the skateboarding. You know, it's
just magical. But let me ask, there's all this rumor
going around about a prequel series or that, you know
and Michael J. Fox may produce. Do you know anything

(05:08):
about that?

Speaker 4 (05:09):
So you know, look, there's been rumors for years that
there's gonna be some continuation of the story. They're going
to do it Back to the Future for the guys
from Cobra Kai you know, have an idea of to
kind of adapt it to a Netflix version or a
short you know, series of some kind limited series. But
Bob and Bob, that's a Robert Zemeckis the director and
Bob Gail the co creator and writer. They have literally said,

(05:30):
over their dead bodies, this will not happen. They think
that the story is perfect as it is. As a
fan of Back to the Future and in the universe
and the lore of it, would I like this.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
See something new. Yeah, I would like to see something.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
But if we only get those three movies, the animated series,
the game, the musical, I can live with that, but
it would be interesting to see how they would kind
of dive back into it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah. I love hearing you say that too. My daughter
caught the musical actually in London. She was doing a
semester abroad. I'm seeing the musical here in Connecticut in
just a couple of weeks. Back to the Future or
the Back to the Future of the musical, which you
know has been getting rave reviews. Now, let me ask
you this. So you know I'm pretty good. I'm not
great whenever I know my stuff. I know my movies.

(06:17):
I know about Eric Staltz. You're not gonna get me there,
you know, Brad, I know a lot of trivia about
Back to the Future. Do you think you have something
that I might not know?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, there's plenty in the book that that I think
would come to a surprise to some people.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
But let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Let me let me test your trivia here, Vinnie, do
you know the original name of the movie?

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah? I know, you got me right out of the gate.
How bad is that back to the Future is such
a great name too. No, but maybe it don't ring
about when you say, what is it?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Well, so so the producer at Universal at the time,
his name is Sid Shineberg. They were talking about the
title of the movie. This guy had some good ideas, right,
He said, Look, you should call him Doc Brown instead
of Professor Brown. It shouldn't be the Springtime in Paris dance,
maybe Enchantment under the Sea. You shouldn't call her Eileen,
you should call her Lorraine. These are all studio notes,
you know. He should docs shouldn't have a pet chimp

(07:10):
named Shmp. He should have a dog name of Einstein.
These are studio notes that Sid Sheinberg was giving out.
But the one that he had, he goes, look, I
know y'all are thinking about calling this movie back to
the Future. That title makes no sense. It is not
a good title. How can you go back to the future?
It doesn't make sense to me. The perfect name for
this movie that will make it stand out above the

(07:30):
rest to be a summer blockbuster hit. You should name
this movie Spaceman from Pluto. And he was serious as
a heart attack. That was what he said. The executive
of the studio should be the name of the movie.
And thankfully Steven Spielberg, you know, he wrote him a
note back saying, oh, we really appreciate your joke and
your sense of humor. It's kept us all, you know,

(07:50):
in good spirits on set. And they never heard from
Sid Sheinberg again. But years later, Eli Roth, who's the director,
he had a movie called A House with a Clock
in Its Walls starring Jack Black, and there's a scene
where there a bus stop or a bus is passing
a movie theater and on the marquee is Spaceman from Pluto.
So it was like a little nod to the title
that never was, you know, I mean that was that was.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
The day and age of Buckaroo Bonzai and you know,
Howard the Duck. And but that's the kind of stuff
that can kill a movie.

Speaker 8 (08:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
What I always wondered about Back to the Future too,
is uh I was a huge fan of Elizabeth, you know,
his girlfriend in the first one.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm trying to think of Claudia Wells. Claudia Wells All,
that's right.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
It goes the other way. That was the interesting thing
the girl for the sequel to have the karate kid's girlfriend,
this future Oscar nominee in a role. I was stunned
by that, I remember at the time, and she didn't
even have a huge role. I'm like, how did they
get Elizabeth shot? And why? Uh? And the story that

(08:57):
I was told back then, it's not this that's being
told now by the original actress Claudia Wells. She's out
being very vocal nowadays saying what was it? What does
she say now that she had another movie she was doing,
or so that was an odd switch room. It's kind
of like Darren from Bewitched.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well so actually from from Claudia. And I've gotten to
know Claudia over the over the last several years, a
great woman. You know, her mother had fallen ill. Her
mother fell ill, you know, while they were ramping up
for the sequel, and she said, you know, I just
can't in good conscience leave my mother's side, And so
then they recast the role. What's is interesting is Claudia

(09:36):
Wells had a kind of a tumultuous time and back
to the future. I guess there's one way you could
say it. She was cast and then she had a
serious this is in the original movie, she had a
series get picked up by ABC called off the rack,
so she had to pull out of Back to the Future.
They recast Jennifer Parker with Malaura Harden, so as Malaura
Harden and Eric Stoltz were the stars of Back to
the Future. And then when they let go of Eric

(09:58):
after six eight weeks of shitt shooting, Melor Harden was
too tall for Michael J.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
Fox, so they had to let her go.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
And then by that time Claudia Wells was able to
do it again, so that's how she got into the
first movie and.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Then the second one.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I think that they get Elizabeth Shoe just because Back
to the Future was the biggest movie in nineteen eighty five,
so the sequel was going to be huge. So even
a small role is a big role in a movie
like that.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
That's well said. That's why he wrote the book. While
we love Back to the Future as a fan findless Adventures.
You know, I sat in the studio with Michael J.
Fox and he was saying how the Eric Staltz was
making this movie down the street and he was dressed
up as a were wolf and he felt silly and
he was very frustrated by that. I read him the
riot act Bright I'm like, you can't diss teen Wolf

(10:47):
in here, teen and you do all the time. I go,
you did in your book, and he was laughing about it.
He goes, I think I do underrest. I'm like, people
love teen Wolf, but you've probably seen Michael J. Fox
in print before making comments that he wanted in on
this movie being made a couple of blocks over and
then Boomy got the call.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and I think he referred to
it as wolf drag is what he said. He was
dressed in wolf drag and uh, and and that was
his characterization in his book of it. And yeah, I mean,
and then you know when you when you're doing that,
and teen Wolf is great. I love teen Wolf, but
respectfully to teen Wolf, but respectful to teen Wolf, it's
no back to the future. I mean, if you could

(11:29):
have your brothers, you're going back to the future ten
times out of ten.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah, So, uh, what else what can people get in?

Speaker 9 (11:38):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Why we love back to the Future outside of I'm
assuming timeline or in all three move are you hitting
all three movies? Or since it says forty years of fandom,
is your book focused on the original?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So no, it's it goes through. We do the entire trilogy.
We talk about each of them. We even talk about
some of those scenes that hit the cutting room floor
that maybe should have been left in the movie. There's
an entire chapter about a cut scene from Back to
the Future too. We talk about the animated series, the
theme park ride, even the musical, which I've been privileged
to see. We really go in depth with this, and

(12:11):
I've had a Back to the Future podcast for the
last ten years where I've talked to Bob Gail, Christopher Lloyd,
Crispin Glover, Harry Waters Junior, who actually writes the introduction,
who played Marvon, Barry, Lea Thompson, so many people involved
with the film series, and a lot of those little
cool anecdotes that I've found out firsthand. They're also in
the book. So it's the entire universe of Back to
the Future. Is featured in Why We Love Back to

(12:34):
the Future.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
So I want people to grab it. It's in bookstores now.
Came out this week May sixth. I don't know how
you did a podcast for ten years. I don't know
how you got that much material from Well, there's a universe,
and I am a huge fan of it, but ten
years of a podcast on it. That's a lot of
hard work, man, that's a lot of research.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I would imagine a lot of research. But you know
what this book was. This book was ten years in
the making really for me, really a lifetime in the making.
And I'm just really happy for people to check it out.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
And I'm one of them. Brad Gilmore, thanks so much
for taking the time and good luck. I hope sales
are great for the book.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Hey, I appreciate it, Vinnie and I will see you
in the future.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
Why we Love Back to the Future? Forty years of fandom, flux,
Capacitors and timeless adventures. Our guest Brad Gilbert. Hey, Brad,
why do we love back to the Future. I can't
believe it's been forty years.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been forty years since that faithful day on
July the third of nineteen eighty five, when movie audiences
serves flopped to see this Robert Zamecha's picture Steven Spielberg Presents,
co written and created by Bob Gail. Look, people love
Back to the Future because it's one of those It
literally and and I don't I guess the pun is
in there because it's in the book. It's a timeless story,

(13:55):
it's a generational story. Everybody can actually sit there and
pontificate the question that actually spawned this film, which is
what would it be like to go to high school
with your parents? And if you ever asked that question,
that's gonna get your mind going. And then you throw
in time travel, a crazy scientist, and all kinds of
mishaps and misfortunes.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
This movie and this.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Story, this trilogy of movies has just continued to be
able to capture everybody for these last four decades.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Again, our guest author Brad Gilmour, why we love Back
to the Future.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
Earlier this morning I played a clip of the day
from co star Leah Thompson. She had no idea making
that movie that it was going to be so huge.
Did you find that true with most of the cast?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
I think so. I mean, obviously, when Steven Spielberg puts
his name on something, you think it's going to go,
you know, and it's going to have obviously a lot
of eyes on it. But this movie, it took a
while to get it kind of out of production. They
had the script for several years before it it was
green lit. Robert Semechis and Bob Gail hadn't really had
a huge hit in their career up until this, and

(15:06):
then Zamechas really hit it big with Romancing the Stone,
and once he did that, all the movie studios were like, oh, hey,
what else, what else you want to do? And he
came back to the future. But also think about this
is they shoot this movie for eight weeks with a
different actor in the main role, and then they recast
and have to reshoot everything. It was kind of a
of a hectic production at times, so I can understand

(15:27):
why the vibe on set might have been like are
we doing something good? Like are gonna people gonna like
this movie? But I think when Michael J. Fox came
on and it came out in the summer, you saw
this thing is gonna have some massive legs.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Did they think it's going to be four decades of
people talking about this movie and somebody like me wanting
to spend hours upon hours and years of his life
writing a book about it. I don't know, but I
think that once it came out, you saw how fantastic
it was.

Speaker 9 (15:56):
And Michael J. Fox wasn't the first choice to play
the lead, right so.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
He was the first choice, but he wasn't available. He
was doing Family Ties at the time. Alex Keaton, he's
the biggest star in television. It's the biggest show in television.
And Gary Goldberg, the producer, said, you know, he's just
not available. Family Ties his priority. So they cast Eric Stoltz,
who's a fine actor. Eric stolts had done several things,
he's done several things since, and they shoot with him

(16:24):
for eight weeks on this movie. They were getting to
the point of the film where they were saying, like,
all right, guys, you know what are you working on next?

Speaker 7 (16:30):
Like what do you have lined up?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And then one faithful evening they said, look, we're just
not getting the jokes that we want in the movie.
The movie's not funny. It feels real dark with Eric
as the lead. So Bob and Bob and Steven Spielberg
made the decision to pull the plug on Eric Stoltz
and recast Marty McFly as Michael J. Fox, meaning though
that Michael J. Fox had to film Family Ties during

(16:54):
the day and film Back to the Future at night,
but he was willing to do it, and obviously he
was the right decision.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
Wow, Eric Stults, the Pete Best of Back to the Future,
the second Pete Best show I've done this morning. That's
a long shot that the Beatles fans get it well,
it's it's fascinating, makes the great. He would make a
great Mother's Day gift. Mom's love. I mean they grew
up with it. Brad Gilmour, Why we love back to

(17:24):
the Future. Congratulations and come back to the Future and
the Johnny Rock Show soon.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Okay, Hey Johnny anytime.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I really appreciate your time.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
I love you. Good shun Hey, welcome out to the
Manx this morning. He's We're Radio one on four point
one broadcasting live on iHeartRadio. What's up, guys, h We
have a guess on the line and I want to
I want to get to him quickly because I know
they he's got limited time. He's doing one of those
things where he's calling folks from around the country. Because

(17:56):
I believe it or not, it's forty years of one
of the best movies ever, which is Back to the Future,
and we've got on the line with us right now.
We've got or who has written a book about it,
and I thought it'd be really interesting because I know
a lot of our listeners probably identify with the movie
Back to the Future. How you doing, Brad, Hey.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
What's going on? Russ? What's going on? Everybody? I'm doing
good man. I appreciate the time.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, buddy, you know they send us these things all
the time, like do you want to talk to this
person of that person? When I saw what your book
is about, I'm like, I think for our audience, it
kind of fits perfectly, because I mean, everybody leves back
to the future. But what made you want to write
a book about it?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Well, you know, man, ever since I first saw the
first movie and then back when I was a young,
young kid, something about it just to me is one
of those things you can't really explain it. It was
like almost like lightning struck my heart's clock tower, if
you will.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
And I just loved it ever since.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
And I started doing a podcast about it back in
twenty fifteen, and next thing, you know, we've done eleven
seasons of that show, and I just kind of kept
thinking about Back to the Future, different theories, what if
they did this, how did they do that? And then
I said, you know what, someone should write a book
about it, and why the hell not me?

Speaker 5 (19:08):
There must be a lot of nuances about Back to
the Future that I'm not thinking about though, because I can't.
I can't think of it like a full podcast I
would do about it. What is it that we're missing
that a lot of us don't realize happened that you
maybe during the movie or or or you know, there
are things that are are super interesting that we don't
know about.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I think I think probably the most fascinating one
that the layman may or may not know. But to
me this is an incredible story. Is that Michael J. Fox,
who is synonymous with Marty McFly, Marty McFly probably the
coolest character in the history of cinema, right up there
with Indiana Jones and James Bond in my opinion.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
He was not originally Marty McFly. Michael J. Fox did
not get cast in Back to the Future.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Originally. Originally that part went to Eric Stoltz and Eric
Stultz filmed Back to the Future eight weeks of production.
They were almost finished with it, and then when Robert Zemeckiz,
the director, and Steven Spielberg sat back and looked at it,
they go, this movie isn't working, it's not funny. It
doesn't have the charm. We need to recast the main role.
So then they had to go back to Michael J. Fox.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
They asked him, would you do this movie?

Speaker 4 (20:13):
And he had to film Family Ties during the day
and film Back to the Future at night. And that's
that was incredible to me that we could have had
a whole different Marty McFly.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, wasn't one of the storylines in one of the
Marvel movies where they had gone back to I don't
know that everything had changed or a different world or whatever.
And they're like, what are you talking about. He's not
He's not Marty McFly, it's Eric Stultz.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, they do that in the flash.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
In the Flash they have that conversation Eric Stoltz is
Marty McFly.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
But you know, there's a couple of interesting casting choices.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Claudia Wells, who originally plays Jennifer Parker in the first
Back to the Future. She was recast in the sequels
by Elizabeth Schue. But originally Jennifer Parker was played by
Malaura Harden and then when they cast Michael J. Fox,
she had to be fired because she was too tall.
But these are small things about the making of the movie.
But there's so much more. We go into the sequels.
We talk about the musical that just came out a

(21:10):
few years ago, the animated series the theme park Attraction,
deleted scenes from the films and why they may or
may not have been good things to cut out or
should they have left them in, And there's been so
much insight. I've gotten to talk to Christopher Lloyd, Leah Thompson,
Crispin Glover, Bob Gail, Robert Zemeckis, Mike, Harry Waters, Junior

(21:31):
Don Full of Love, all people who are in the
movie Claudia Wells, like we talked about, I've talked to
them over the years, and they've given me so much
interesting insight to the making of these movies that I thought, Man,
there's a lot here that I could compile into this book.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
And we interviewed who is the guy that is the
bad guy.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
At Tom Wilson fift tennant.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been either a super
nice guy and he seems to still embrace it.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well and he should, you know. I think that when
you look at the trilogy, I do a whole chapter
about the old Man Biff, and people can dive into that,
but when you look at the movies, he plays seven
different versions essentially of the same character over three films,
and they're each distinctive in their own different ways. And
to me, his acting chops. He was throwing a thousand

(22:20):
in the Back to the Future trilogy, and he's a
hilarious guy. But to me, he's probably the greatest cinematic
villain of all time because because he has zero redeeming qualities.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
Darth Vader is awesome, Tony Montana is awesome.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Any movie villain you can think of, you either understand
their pathology or you think they're kind of cool. Biff Tannon,
he's just a butt him.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yeah, he does a butt and you you would have
done he would have done a lot more afterwards, because
you're right his acting ability. He plays so many different
types of characters, but he's sort of just as always
has kind of been biff On.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
You know what, Sometimes you just hit a role so
far out of the park that it just becomes who
you are. Even Michael J. Fox, who went on to
do a lot of things after Back to the Future.
Right when you say Michael J. Fox, people go, oh,
Marty McFly, Christopher Lloyd, who is in another one of
my favorite movies, which is Clue of the Movie, which
also came out in nineteen eighty five. A lot of

(23:18):
people don't realize that Chris Lloyd played a doctor and
a professor in the same year. Because he played Professor Blumm.
He went on to do a whole bunch of stuff.
But still more more than Taxi, more than Roger Rabbit,
more than the Adams Family. You think, Christopher Lloyd, Doc Brown,
It's just how big that movie does.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, you're right, Angel. Question for Brad Gilmour, who has
written a book It's Why We Love Back.

Speaker 11 (23:40):
To the Future forty years later. One of the things
I find interesting with his book with this series, Brad
is and I would like your thoughts on it is
the fact that because of this series of movies, all
the rules for time travel from this conception of movies
going forward was set back to the future.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
And you know what's funny is in in The Avengers
End Game, which is a time travel movie, Tony Stark's
character or Tony Stark played by Robert Doddy Junior.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Obviously he kind of makes funny.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
He's like, wait a minute, you're basing your entire plan
to save the universe on Back to the Future. And
the funny thing is they kind of make it seem
like that's not how time travel works, but then in
the movie they go back into other movies and change
what happens so that they create a different future.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
So it's exactly like Back to the Future.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
And to me, this is what people think of when
they think of a time travel story.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
That's funny, I guess ryan question for Brad Gilmore, it's
fine because I also really love the Back to the
Future series and they're so iconic for me growing up
and from from the industrial Lton Magic doing the original effects.
It pre digital, by the.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
Way, just but my thing was always this And I
don't know if you felt this way too, right, because
Back to the Future too takes place in twenty fifteen,
and I found twenty fifteen to be very disappointing because
of that.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right, did you have the same thought, Because when I
saw that holographic shar shark, I'm like hoverboards, I'm like,
I know.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
This is coming twenty fifteen.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Twenty fifteen gets here, and all I have is a
bad credit score and I drive a twenty twelve hundred
Stana Fai.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Well, first of all, don't knock the Santa Fe. It's
a quality automobile. But secondly, when it comes to what
they were able to do in twenty fifteen, there were
some things that didn't happen. Right, we pay with stuff
with our thumb print, you know, we can you know,
have a picture and picture. There's a lot of different
like small little inventions that they came up with that
actually did end up panning out. There are holographic cinemas.

(25:38):
We saw Tupac at Coachella, and then the year after
twenty sixteen there a year off the Cubs won the
World Series, so they weren't so so wrong. But we
don't have flying cars, which I don't know how it
is where you all live. I live in Houston, Texas,
and flying cars with the people in the drivers in
this city and state, that is not a good idea.
So I think that we're really good here in twenty

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twenty five. But to me, what was great about that
twenty fifteen version in Back to the Future was that
it was the one of the only movies I can
remember where they go into the future and it's not
some dystopian distratten. We're all wearing silver suits and no
one has any money. Like it was like, hey, here's
a hopeful version of what the future could look like.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Hey, that first weekend that it came out, I can't
really remember. I know it was ended up being a blockbuster,
but was it really big the first weekend that Back
to the Future came out, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
July third, nineteen eighty five. Essentially it it dominated the
entire year. Is the highest grossing movie of nineteen eighty five.
It was number one for thirteen fourteen weeks in the theaters,
which nowadays, you know, if a movie's number one two
weeks in a row, it's considered a massive success. So
imagine dominating the entire summer into the early fall. Yeah,

(26:51):
it was the biggest movie of nineteen eighty five. And
what's also interesting is until they saw the success of
Back to the Future, they had no plans in making
a two or three. That's not what they thought back then.
They were just like, let's make a really good movie.
And a lot of people seem to remember it saying
to be continued at the end of the film. That
wasn't added until the home video release, and they knew
they were going to do the sequel. It was meant

(27:13):
to be a standalone film, but the success said, you
know what, the people want more of this.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Hey, well with Michael J. I know Michael J. Fox
was on Family Ties at the time, but was Family
Ties super popular because I can't I remember watching it,
but I can't remember if it was like super popular
then or if it popularity got bigger after Back to
the Future.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
So I think it's you know, it kind of goes
both ways.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
But it was super popular and by the time Back
to the Future was the number one movie in the theaters,
Family Ties was the number one situational comedy of its day,
and so I think that they kind of fed into
one another, but it was it was so big that
that's why the producer Gary Goldberg originally wouldn't let Michael J.
Fox off of the set to go do Back to

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the Future because he was like, this, this show is
so large, it's so massive, it's making so much money.
We can't risk losing you from half the season. And
that's why Michael J. Fox had a full double duty.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, he was one of the biggest stars of that
year for sure. Yeah, Ryan, question for Brad Gilmour.

Speaker 12 (28:14):
Brad, I'm looking at photos of you as as we're
talking to you and whatnot, and you're you're a very
well dapper dressed man. You live in Texas, got cool
little background looks like they're A question for you, is
this when it comes to love?

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Could you be with somebody.

Speaker 12 (28:30):
Who did not like the Back to the Future series?

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well, that's a great question, but the answer to is
very simple.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
There is no one on the face of God's Green Earth,
or any known universe or anywhere the space time continuum
that doesn't love Back.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
To the Future.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I haven't met on these guys. So the power of
love will be strong with anybody and everybody because we
all can celebrate the greatest film trilogy of all time,
Back to the Future. And if they haven't seen it yet,
that's actually my favorite thing. If I meet somebody who
hasn't seen Back to the Future, which is a rarity,
but if they haven't, it's like, it's the best time

(29:06):
of my life. I'm like, we're gonna go watch it.
Let's make plans. You're coming over tonight, We're going to
go on this wild ride.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
How many times have you seen it?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
So I've thought about this. It definitely for the first movie,
I mean and This is not an exaggeration.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
It's probably in the hundreds somewhere.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
For the sequels a little bit lower than that, you know,
probably several dozen.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
But this was religion.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I mean, if I'm feeling really good and i just
want to kill some time, hey, let's throw on back
to the future.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
If I'm feeling down, let's throw them back to the future.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
And then when I'm writing this book, you end up
watching the movie in a different way. I found myself
looking at the background a lot more and like really
listening to the dialogue and trying to figure out where
they set things and like, oh, there's a hidden easter egg.
Oh look, there's Lone Pine Mall, but it's Twin Pines
Mall in the future, and things like that, Like this
is such a rewatchable film, which I think also has

(29:56):
lent itself to why it's been around for these four decades.
Did always been relevant?

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Was Huey Lewis and the news always set to do
the music for it? Or was that at a last
minute add in?

Speaker 4 (30:10):
No, Yeah, they mean Sports had come out in eighty four,
I believe, and it was huge. Obviously Huey Lewis was
big back then. If you remember the eighties.

Speaker 11 (30:19):
They were the biggest band in the world at the time.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
That time, they were huge, Yeah, huge, And to me
back then in the eighties, a lot of movies you
think of Beverly Hills, cop or another favorite of mind
that came out in eighty five, Fletch, a lot of
them had like these synse soundtracks axel lef you know,
the Valdemeyer scores or what have you. What was great
about Back to the Future had that classic cinematic feel
with Alan Silvestri's score, but then some great rock and

(30:44):
roll in there with the soundtrack. And really, music is
such a big part of Back to the Future because
the power of Love doesn't really have to do a
time travel or anything like that. I think it's one
of the few iconic movie songs that can be played
in other movies and commercials. It's kind of transcended the
film in a lot of ways. But you also have
Johnny be Good in there, you have Earth Angel in there,
you have back in Time in there. It's a very

(31:06):
musical kind of film. Back to the Future is and
people don't think about that enough, but Huey Lewis man
that power of love to this day, it still rings off.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
It's a pretty damn good so I believe it or not.
We have a wide range of an audience. I mean,
you know, like very wide range. And there are several
people texting us right now saying I've never seen Back
to the Future. Can you imagine a And what do
you say to someone who's like twenty four years old
and never seen Back to the Future, Why would they
watch such an old movie?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, well, first I would tell them, you know, look, congratulations,
because you're about to see the greatest movie ever made.
And you can only experience that once. You know, everyone
remembers their first time, and that's what they're gonna remember
when they watched the movie. And to me, what's great
about it is it's not just an old movie. Yes,
it's forty years old, Yes we can we've established that,
But the movie is generational. I'm the youngest of four.

(31:56):
My brother and I are twenty three years apart. Right,
that's a pretty good age gap. He was old enough
to beat my father. And what's great about this is
back to the Future. It's been a cultural touchstone for
us because everybody can relate to that idea. What was
it like to go to high school with your parents.
And if you just say that is really the premise
of the movie, because this is how the movie came about.

(32:16):
Bob Gail found his father's yearbook and didn't know his
dad was the president of his graduating class, and thought,
what would it be like if I went to school
with my parents and found out my dad was like
a nerd and I didn't want anything to do with him.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
That is where the genesis of this movie came from.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
And if you think about that premise, that question, you
can understand why this movie is great. So congratulations again
to your audience who has not seen Back to the Future,
they're going to remember their first time. It's problem night
tonight Baby.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
The book is called Why We Left Back to the
Future Forty Years of Fandom, Flux, Capacitors and Timeless Adventures,
and it's out on paperback right now. Brad, thank you
for taking time to talk to us. I know you've
got you also have a connection with professional wrestling, don't you. Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Yeah, Me and Booker T, my man Booker T.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
We've been doing it for twelve years together, doing a
reality wrestling our promotion down here in Houston and a
radio show on ESPN ESPN Radio The Hall of Fame.
So yeah, pro wrestling, back to the Future, eighties movies,
I love it all true or false.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Is HollyHood Haley Jay in your area right now?

Speaker 4 (33:18):
HollyHood Haley J. Yes, Hollywood Haley J. Lives like a
couple blocks away from me. Actually love Haley. She just
came down to reality wrestling. Great, great girl.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah she moved there. She moved to Texas to do.

Speaker 12 (33:30):
Dayana because we kicked her out of Florida.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
She had a battle with one of the girls that
is on our show, Ambernova and just recently lost the
title the Ambernova. But listen, buddy, thank you for taking
time to talk to us. Brad, we appreciate it. And
good luck with the book.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Hey, thanks you all. I really appreciate y'all.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
You got it man, take care all right, we'll come back.
It's time for the King of Denmark Run Holmes to
make his daily proclamation. You're listening to the monsters in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Thank you for listening to the John and Heidi Show.
Excited to visit right now with Brad Gilmore, and we're
gonna talking about why we love Back to the Future
so much because He's got a book out. It's called
Why We Love Back to the Future forty Years from Fandom, Flux,
Capacitors and Timeless Adventures. And I am a huge fan
of the movie and I am so excited to check
out this book. I can't believe it's been forty years, Brad.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Four decades, four decades of dominance from Back to the
Future July third, nineteen eighty five. That's when fans first
flocked to see this future fable.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
And man, it's been a one hell of a ride since.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, and we are ten years into the future from
you know, when they went to the future and Back
to the Future too, that was ten years ago, so
we are living way, way, way in the future.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Bread.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
You know, it's weird. It's weird to think about Back
to the Future trilogy is now a trilogy of movies
about the past.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Because they all are now taking place in the past.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And it's amazing to me how much they got right
when they you know, did Back to the Future too.
And again that I'm a member of several groups where
this gets talked about, you know a lot. So I
have a feeling your book's going to sell well because
I know there's a lot of people that are interested
in this. What was it that drew you to this
and what made you decide I have to write a
book about this?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Well, you know, it's funny that you asked said, because
when I was young and I first saw the film,
you know, it was after its theatrical release, and I
was captivated by it instantaneously. You know, my grandfather was
born in the nineteen teens, my grandmother in the twenties,
my father in the forties, my mother in the fifties,
And for some reason, watching this movie, I felt like
it gave me a window into like their lifetime, and

(35:37):
I was so fascinated with history in the past. And
this film just kind of hit on all levels. It's
got a romance in it, it's got sci fi, it's
got action, it's got comedy. But really the root of
the story is great because Bob Gail, who co wrote
the film, he found his father's yearbook one day and said, Man,
I wonder what would happened if I cause they went

(35:57):
to the same high school. He was like, I wonder
what happened if I went to the same to high
school with my dad at the same time? Would we
have been friends? Would I hated him what he was
he and ner would I've been a jerk? And it
was that idea that got the ball rolling on creating
what I feel is not only the greatest trilogy of
all time, but absolutely the greatest eighties movie of all time,
and absolutely the greatest time travel story ever told.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
And so I was always.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Fascinated with it, and I started doing a podcast just
talking with friends about Back to the Future. That led
me to interviewing so many people from the cast Leah Thompson,
Crispin glove Or, Christopher Lloyd, Bob Gail, Robert Zemeckis, Jeffrey Wiseman,
Don full of Love, who plays Mayor Goldie Wilson, Claudia Wells.
I mean, the list goes on and on that I thought, man,
I want to adapt all these interesting stories and tidbits

(36:43):
that I've gotten from the people who did it over
the years into some sort of book. And that's where
we are now. While we love Back to the Future,
I love it.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I love it again in the book Why We Love
Act to the Future forty years of fandom, flux capacitors
and timeless adventures, And again, I think the timing on
this is perfect because you know, again, forty years ago
is when this hit the theaters and there are people
who watched this as a child who now watch this
with their children. And the thing that's nice you can

(37:12):
do that it's a movie that you know, is a
good movie for all ages. That's not the case for
every movie that came out in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Well, no, no, what's actually funny is that Back to
the Future of the script got rejected by a lot
of studios at first because it wasn't raunchy enough. You know,
the fast times at Ridgmond high films of that. You know,
there's several others that we could list kind of a
raunchier comedy. This one wasn't raunchy enough. Everybody said you
should take it to Disney. Go to Disney. Disney would
love this movie. And then Disney read the script and

(37:42):
they're like, are you crazy? This movie is.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
About incest, the mother falls in love with the sun.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Are you out of your minds? And so Disney didn't
want to make it either, but finally Universal decided to
give it, to give it a go.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And again I was saying earlier, I'm in several like
Facebook groups that are Back to a future fan, and
there are people who watch the movie and they point
out all this little thing or that little thing and
some of that stuff. Those are things that I've noticed.
But I think at the end of the day, it's
not a perfect movie. But boy, it's pretty darn clothes,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Ah No, I mean I would say it's perfect.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I would say it's perfect narratively, narratively, an execution is perfect. Yeah,
there might be small things where hey, is that really
Eric Stolt's fist, or oh look there's Biff Stunt double
there in the car instead of him. There's all those
small little things. But as far as a narrative and
execution and a script, this script is so good that
they teach it in screenwriting school. They go, this is
how you write a script.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
This is how you set up things.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Here's exposition, here's payoff, this is how you should construct
your three act structure. I mean, it is a beautifully
written script. And so I would say I would say
it's you know who else says it's a perfect movie,
Quentin Tarantino. Quentin Tarantino says Back to the Future is
a perfect movie. So I'm gonna go with Quinton on
that one.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I agree, and it is a thing that I will
say is really fun. When they did the first one,
they didn't even know they were to be doing the sequels,
but it almost felt as though they did. There was
so much setup that perfectly played out in two and three. Again,
just it is my favorite trilogy of all time. And
again I love the fact that you wrote a book
on this and then thank you for taking the time
to chat with me about it today.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Hey, no problem at all, and you know, we go
into the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
We talk about the sequels, we talk about the musical,
the animated series, the theme park ride, the fan theory.
So it's a book for you. You will love this.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm excited. Brad Gilmour has been our guest today. Brad,
thanks for your time, sir.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Hey, thank you so much, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Absolutely again. The book is called Why We Love Back
to the Future, Forty Years of Fandom, Flux Capacitors and
Timeless Adventures. I'll do that last piece and Timeless Adventures.
You can find it right now. It's available and I've
got a link to it in the show notes.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Sport.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Today, I'd like to welcome.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Everyone, k Show Frank mckaye here with the one and
only Bred Gilmore. And he does so many things, and
he does so many things well as a musician, television host,
radio personality, and once in a while there's a little acting.
But the latest from him is why we love Back
to the Future. Forty years of fandom, flux capacitors and

(40:14):
timeless adventures. And it's a book and you get it
right now, and it's just it's a musket I'm ordering
a couple for friends of mine that are into this.
But without further ado, let me bring on Brad, Brad Gilmore,
how are you, hey, man.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
I appreciate that introduction. I appreciate you checking out the book.

Speaker 8 (40:33):
Man.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, well, listen, very excited about it. For some reason,
it doesn't get old. And maybe it's the concept, you know,
the concept keeps it fresh. But every you know, every
little while you get into a huge conversations about Back
to the Future. I'm thrilled that you did this. How

(40:56):
long in the making has it been for you?

Speaker 7 (40:58):
Well, for me, if I'm being honest, it's a lifetime
in the making.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
But you know, i'd say last you know, five years,
you know, I put I had a different version of
this book out before.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
But then I thought, man, there's so much more I
can add to it.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
So I started doing a podcast for Back to the
Future back in twenty fifteen, and that led me to
talking to Crispin Glover, Leah Thompson, Christopher Lloyd, Bob Gail,
Robert Zemeckis, you know a lot of people involved with it.
I was even thankful to have Harry Waters Junior, who
plays Marvin Barry in the film. He writes the introduction
of the book Saturday Night Lives. Mikey Day writes the
forward to the book, And to me, it was it

(41:32):
was several years in the making. But last year I
went to a comic con here in Houston, and Michael J.
Fox and Christopher Lloyd were there, And although I had
talked to Christopher Lloyd before, I'd never met the man
in person and shook his hand. And there was something
about that experience and seeing hundreds and hundreds of people
lined up around the convention floor wanting to meet these guys.
It made me go, man, everybody loves this movie. I

(41:54):
love this movie. I want to put out that quintessential
fans book of why we love Back to the future.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Yeah, well, listen, it's well done and a mission accomplished
on it. And quite frankly, it's an important film too.
I mean not just because you know Spielberg and everybody
who was involved with it, but it it has so
much to do with top culture and embraced top culture.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
Uh, it was.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
It was certainly a sign of the times, but also
a sign of no pun intended sign of the future
of what was going on. And the fact that they
they made the three back to back to back it
is mind blowing if you think about it, but but
well thought out, and you wonder why more people don't
do that. They certainly don't have the cloud or the

(42:42):
budget to do that. But how unique in your research
did you find that? That is, you know, somebody that
shot three three films back to back to back.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
So yeah, it's a really great question. What's interesting is
they shoot back to the future one. There's no plan
to do a sequel or make it a trilogy at all.
The little ending teas where they fly off and they
say we you know, we got to go back to
the future was just a joke and a way to
end the movie. And so what was interesting it became
the number one film of the year nineteen eighty five,

(43:13):
fourteen week straight number one highest grossing film. Michael J.
Fox is the biggest movie star in the world. And
then they say, look, we need to do sequel. We
need to do a sequel to this movie that people
want it. So, while Robert Zamechis was doing Who Framed
Roger Rabbit in eighty eight with Christopher Lloyd as well,
he and Bob Gail started to put together an idea
for a script where you would see Michael J. Fox's

(43:34):
Marty McFly go back to the nineteen sixties and he
would find out that Lorraine was a flower child, and
he gets arrested for being a conscientious objector to the
Vietnam War, and there's all kinds of craziness that happens
in this original script for Back to the Future Part two.
But then Zamechas called Bob Gale and said, hey, what
if we went back into the first movie. We have

(43:55):
this unique idea or ability to go back into the
first movie, get from different angles, re experience that first film,
because that's what people want in a sequel.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
They want the same movie but different.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
And so they wrote this script called paradox Universal saw
it and said, hey, there's too much here for one movie,
but there's enough here for two movies. And that's when
they made the decision to shoot two and three back
to back.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Geez, you know, just a one.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
Yeah, I didn't realize that, and you clarified me on that.
But amazing the history we don't see or that we
don't know. Have any of the actors or the people
behind the cameras, do any of them? Not like the film.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
I haven't met anybody on this God's Green Earth, this
known universe, or anywhere in the space time continuum that
doesn't love Back to the Future.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Now.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I know. There's a comedic bit that Tom Wilson, who
plays bif Tann, and he does a joke song kind
of about everybody asking him about Back to the Future
all the time. Because the movie was so big, and
because it's transcended for four decades, it's been in the
pop culture sphere and always relevant, always consistently present, always

(45:08):
on cable, always on television, people always talking about it.
So many of those people, really all of them are
most synonymous with Back to the Future. Robert Zamechas is
an incredible film director, who went on to do Forrest Gump,
and like I said, who framed Roger Rabbit Romancing The
Stone Castaway here last year in theaters, which I got
to interview him for, but people still think about him.
For Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd was Jim Ignatowski.

(45:30):
He played Professor Plumb. He went on to do The
Adams Family and so many different other things. He's still
known as Doc Brown. Michael J. Fox is most known
for Martin mcflaugh even though he did teen Wolf, Spin
City and so many other things. Leah Thompson, the list
goes on our Crispin Glover. This movie was so massive
that they're all known for it. So I'm sure at times,
at different points in their life there's been some Back

(45:50):
to the Future fatigue for them, but they still all
realize how incredible of an experience this has been for them,
and they all love the movie. So I haven't heard
anybody ever say, never heard anybody say they don't love
Back to the Future.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent.
I don't know how many times I've seen it, just
over and over. What about the predictions and and you know,
people talk so much about that. They're pretty right on
on on certain things, you know, and and some things
that just cure luck. But how many of the of

(46:24):
the predictions of futuristic predictions stand out to you that
that have come through.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
We know there's there's a few, right, I mean, there's
a you know, like they've predicted almost those ray band
meta glasses with the AI voice command assistance, like Alexa
and Siri were president Back to the Future Part two,
paying with things with your thumb print or now we
use face I D picture and picture, which people forget about.
But Back to the Future invented picture and picture. There

(46:52):
was no such thing before that. But we see young
Marty watching several things at once. And of course the
Cubs they a year off. They were just a year
off from the Cubs winning the World Series, so they
were close.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
That's the freak thing in that. That's the freak thing.
The other things there are real, real things that happened.
But amazing, absolutely amazing. Brad, tell us anything else we
should know about the book, and you know, we want
everybody to get it. And if you can give us
a website or a social media side where we could

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follow along with what you're doing. In the book.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, you can follow me on all social media at
Brad Gilmour. Back to the FutureBook dot Com is where
you can learn more about the book. It's on Amazon,
Barnes and Noble, all your regular retailers. But it's about
Back to the Future of the first movie. We talk
about the sequels. We go into the theme park ride,
the animated series, the musical cut scenes from the film
that may or may not have made the movie better,
a whole conversation about a cut scene from Back to

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the Future Part two.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
I talk about Doc Brown's inventions.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
We talk about the different versions of the time machine,
my favorite friends in time and I have collaborators along
the way, including Jeff free Wiseman, who played George McFly
in parts two and three. We get to hear his
story of getting recast when Chrispin Glover didn't elect to
do the sequels. There's so much information in here, and
again I've been able to compile quotes over these ten
years of doing Back to the Future of the podcast.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Who give me insight?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
People from Bob Gail and Christopher Lloyd and Leah Thompson,
Crispin Glover, just the insight that they gave me I
was able to adapt to this book, and so we
talk about all things back to the Future and why
we love Back to the Future.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
Bred Gilmore, congrats on everything, certainly the book, and we're
going to be talking about it as we let you go.
Thanks for being here.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Frank bred Gilmore, one and only bred Gilmore, and just
so many things and so many things.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well everyone, Hey, Brad, thanks for coming on.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
Hey, I appreciate him.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
So greetings, fellow nerd. Yeah, absolutely, big time. Why back
to the Future. What got you so interested in this movie?
Because you're obvious too young to have grown up with it,
like I did.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
You know, it's a great it's a great question because
back in the day I saw it on television one
time and something about it just spoke to me. And
you know, I'm the youngest of four siblings from my father.
My dad's in his eighties and my oldest brother's twenty
three years older than me, and so I always kind
of looked for ways to relate to them, I think,
and Back to the Future is a movie that I

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have found over these four decades since its released, that
everybody has seen or at least heard about, if you
haven't seen it, and it's always a great conversation piece.
And to me, it's the three movies together that the
best trilogy ever made, best pure trilogy ever made. I
stand on it. I will debate it to the cows
come home as they say, this is the best film
trilogy of all time and back to the futures on

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a shortlist of perfect movies.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
So I might have to argue with you on that.
So forth, when you've got Star Wars, when you've got
Indiana Jones.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Hold on, now see look, look, Scott, I like you,
but you're already wrong. Here's the issue pure trilogy. Look,
the an original Star Wars trilogy. Yes, but then there's
been movies added on to them. We ruined it absolutely
in the Skywalker Saga, which is nine films by itself.
Indiana Jones there's five of them. That's not a trilogy,
that's five movie.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
But really, after after the first three, they're they're they're
also really bad. Although the fifth Indiana Jones wasn't horrible, so.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
I actually have a fondness for all Indiana Jones, with
Last Crusade being the best of the five in my opinion.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Then it's Raiders, Temple of Doom. You're gonna not like me.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I feel like I really appreciative, but Temple of Doom
is my least favorite of the five.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Okay, okay, cool. So we're on the same we're on
the same wavelengths. So but to me, it's a pure trilogy.
There's been no td TV adaptation, Netflix Limited Series reboot, remake.
The closest thing we got was a Saturday Morning animated
cartoon or the Back to the Future musical, and.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
It really, I mean it's held up over time. I mean,
there are obviously things that the portray and the future
that we have not seen, but very close. I mean,
we don't necessarily have hoverboards, but we've got we've got
self driving scooters on every street corner at every major
sitting now, so that's very fairly close.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
They did some things, you know, they invented with the
ray band, meta glasses that they have now, Virtual Assistant AI, Siri, Alexa.
Those were all in Back to the Future picture and
picture and then they were a year off from the
Chicago Cubs winning the World Series. We pay for things
with our thumb print. They got a lot right, and
what I love most about their depicture of the future
is it wasn't some dystopian, you know, war torn country

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that we lived in. It was just like, hey, this
is probably what's gonna happen in thirty years. And you know,
we don't get flying cars, but you know we get
some cool things.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
We've got Brad Gilmore here on the Scott sand Show.
His latest project is book Why We Love Back to
the Future. Forty years of fandom, flux Passitors and Timeless Adventures.
You get into some fan theories. What's your favorite fan
theory without revealing too much?

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Well, to me, what I love most about this movie
and why the podcast has continued for so many years
is there's so many little things you can debate in
small threads. But there's a cut scene from Back to
the Future Part two where you see Biff tannin Old
Biff from Back to the Future Part two, he hijacks
the Dolorean. He comes back and we see him sweating

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and he looks like he's really in rough shape, and
then that's where it cuts off. In the movie. There's
a cut scene where he actually disappears right when he's
laying there on the car. He disappears completely erased from existence,
and we get into the reasons why, and we also
talk a lot about was that a good idea to
cut the scene?

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Was it not a good idea to cut the scene?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
And I throw out a few of my own ideas
of what could have happened to Biff.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
You know, Back to the Future could have been so
different and probably not as successful if changes had not
been made during the production. I mean, can you imagine
Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly instead of Michael J. Fox.
I don't think it it works. And I like Eric Stoltz.
He's done some great movies and great TV shows and
the DeLorean, I mean, what a classic decision to make

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that the time machine. The movie could have turned out
completely different were it not for a few minor changes.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Well, I mean, the movie would have added Eric Stoltz
is Marty McFly getting into his time traveling refrigerator and
trying to get to a nuclear test site in order
to get back to the future. When it really been
the movie that we know it today. And I think
Michael J. Fox, I mean, as Marty McFly, he's up
there as the coolest character of all time. It's him
it's Indiana Jones. Like we talked about James Bond, there

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might be a few others of just pure coolness on screen.
The man invented rock and roll in skateboarding, come on now,
he's one of the greats of all time. And I
think Michael J. Fox he understood how to balance the
craziness of the plot with the humor. If he never
felt like it got dark, and with Eric Stoltz, by
all reports in the footage that I've seen, is it
felt dark. He was playing it as if his mother

(53:59):
was actually coming on to him, as if he was
actually stuck in the nineteen fifties with no conceivable way
of how to get back to the future. He played
it real, which I understand. He's a great actor, but
that's not the sensibility they were looking for in Back
to the Future.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
They wanted some more jokes, they wanted some levity. That's
what Michael J.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Brought.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And the caster of Doc Brown certainly iconic as well.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, Christopher Lloyd, to me obviously is Doc Brown is
one of those everyone knows, great Scott. Everyone knows what
a jiggawatt is, even though that's the incorrect pronunciation of it.
It's gigawatt, but he said jigawatt, So I say jiggawatt, okay.
And look, Chris Lloyd has done so much in his career.
Jimmy Natowski on Taxi one of the biggest shows of

(54:39):
all time. He went on to do The Adams Family.
He went on to do Clue the movie later that
year in nineteen eighty five, which I'm actually very fond of.
He playing both a doctor and a professor in the
same year. Might I add, but he is most known
for Back to the Future, as is everybody, and his
performance as Doc Brown is second to none. Man, It's
second to none. That's what I think also stands out

(55:01):
about this film. Everybody brings it. Everybody's throwing ninety seven
down the middle when their performances, especially in Back to
the Future Part one.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
So, Brad, if you could hop into the DeLorean and
visit any moment from the Back to the Future trilogy,
what scene would you want to visit in person?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
So the scene I would like to see in person
is one of my favorite of the film, and I
never hear anybody say it's their favorite, but it is
mine because it makes me laugh every time. Even though
I know the joke is going is going to happen.
They're there at the Baines residence in nineteen fifty five.
Calvin Klin is sitting at the dinner table along with
his mother, Lorraine Baines, and she grabs him by the
leg and then he runs out of the of the

(55:39):
house because he's so nervous that his mother has the
hots for him to use my Michael J. Fox impression,
and his future grandfather says, he's an idiot. It comes
from upbringing. His parents are probably idiots too, And you
know what, I just want to see that in a
person because my favorite line of the movie because it
makes me laugh. So if I could be the fly
on the wall in that conversation, I would now the
second scene I would say is and back to the

(56:00):
Future part three when they find the DeLorean in the
del Gatto mines, the old DeLorean that Doc Brown from
eighteen eighty five buried it there for them to discover
nineteen fifty five. I would like to be along for
that Jules Vernie in Adventure.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
And I know we're almost up the time, but we've
got to give some love, some credit to Lorraine, to
Leah Thompson, who in my age, we all fell in
love with Leah Thompson in the late eighties.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
I still am in love with Leadopson. I don't think
that love has ever left for me. I had the
privilege of interviewing her one time years back, and she
called me a dream boat, and I don't think that
I've come down off that high since. But she was
miraculous in this film because she had to play that
old version of Lorraine that we see at the very beginning,

(56:48):
the nineteen eighty five version where she got the bottle
of vodka and she's sad, and it looks like a
woman who best years were behind her and not looking
forward to tomorrow, but knowing that she still has to
live it. And you saw the sadness in Lea Tom's
face in that scene in nineteen eighty five. I think
that her acting is phenomenal as that version of the rain.
And then when she's younger, you understand what kind kind

(57:09):
of and even though it's weird, you understand why Marty
is kind of flattered that this very attractive young woman,
even though it's his mother, like, has this crush on him.
It's a strange thing to get down, but you understand
because she is so breathtaking. Lee gorgeous still is, but
in this movie you understand why everyone was chasing after

(57:30):
Lorraine rad Gilbore.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Why we Love Back to the Future forty years of fandom,
flux capacitors and timeless adventures. Where else can we find you?
On social media? Podcast all those things?

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah, you can find Back to the Future of the
podcast wherever you get podcasts, this book Why we Love
Back to the Future, Back to the Future book, dot Com, Amazon,
Barnes and Noble, all those good places you can find
me on all social media at Brad Gilmour, I.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Could nerd out with you for hours. Man, Brad, it's
nice to meet you. Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Let's do it again sometimes, Scott.

Speaker 8 (57:58):
Hello, mister Gilmore, good morning.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Hey, how's it going on? Jose?

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Why We Love Back to the Future Forty years of fantom,
flux capacitors and timeless Adventures. I mean, this movie does
not get old. One of the few movies not to
have been remade into two thousands because of its just
classic imperiod piece theme. Why are people still in love
with this movie?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Man?

Speaker 7 (58:24):
It's generational, Jose.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
It's one of those movies that you can watch with
your eldest family member or youngest family member and you
have the same enjoyment out of it every single time.
And the thing is the concept, the heart of this movie,
the way that it came about was Bob Gail had
this idea what happened? He found his father's yearbook and
he said, what would happen if I went to school
with my dad? Like? Would we have been friends? Would

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we have liked each other? Like if my parents and
I were the same age, how would that be? And
that was the question that was asked, and you know what,
they turned it into what I considered the greatest film
trilogy of all time and time travel everyone has a
fascination with, especially during this period going back forward and Dolori,
and it's just as cool as all hell. So there's

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so many reasons why people still love this movie and
love all these movies so many years later.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
And I mean a lot of things had to fall
into place, because what people don't realize was Michael J.
Fox was not the original star character. He was not
fall in place.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yes, so much had a fall in place. Originally, they
cast Eric Stoltz, who's a fine actor. They shot with
him Jose for eight weeks. They got to the point
of the movie where it was like, Hey, we're wrapping up.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
What else you got up next?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
What are you doing? What are you working on? They
thought they were all done and planning their next move,
and then one night, Steven Spielberg and Robert Zamechis and
Bob Gail who Bob Gail co creator Back to the Future,
they all assembled on the Universal lot and said, look,
we're gonna have to let Eric go because we're not
getting the jokes that we want. The movie's not hitting
in the same way we wanted to, And they made

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the decision to.

Speaker 7 (01:00:03):
Go back to Michael J.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Fox. Ask Gary Goldberg, who's the producer of Family Ties,
which Michael J.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Fox was the star on at the time as Alex P.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Keaton. They asked him, Hey, can we get Michael and
and they said yes, so long as he still puts
Family Ties first. So Michael J. Fox was filming Family
Ties in the day, shooting Back to the Future at night,
and in July third, nineteen eighty five, with audience's first
flock to see this time travel story in theaters, Michael J.

(01:00:30):
Fox had the number one movie a number one television
show in the country.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Now and then I was watching this great YouTube video
on the psychology saying that like to two thousands, to
two thousands, tens and even now have been all really
a big blur. But this movie came out forty years
ago and in stood to test the time in the
movie about in the eighties, but about the fifties. What
is it about the fifties and that people love and

(01:00:57):
can still go back to, like you know, maybe a
quo time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Well, it was a quieter time, but it was also
the rise of the teenager. Before then, you know, there
wasn't really the characterization of teenager as we know it,
and they hit on it in the movie where You Go,
where they're all at Lose Cafe and they're hanging out
after school and their rock and roll started to come
in the mid fifties, Elvis and Chuck Barry. Chuck Barry

(01:01:22):
a little bit before Elvis, but Elvis put out That's
all Right in nineteen fifty four, and we really started
getting going and skateboarding and all these things started in
this nineteen fifties. So that was kind of where teenagers began.
And to me, everyone can relate to being the guy
who wants to ask out the hottest girl in school
and can't do it, doesn't have the courage to. And

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then it's great that Marty kind of gives his dad
the talk that a dad would give to a son
in order to go and get Lorraine and ask her
to the Enchantment under the Seed Dance. There's those universal themes,
and then you just add this fantastical element of time
travel which everyone has thought about. Hey, if I could
go back and do this, or if I could live
to see two hundred years into the future, I wonder
what would happen. There's that universal themes and these fantastical

(01:02:06):
elements which has just kept this movie so much in
the pop culture conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
Now, what would be your argument for not making a
remake of this movie?

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
So I actually don't have an argument to not remake
the movie. I'm one of the few Back to the
Future loyalists who say, hey, look.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
I'm up for as long as the Bobs are involved.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
That's Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis, the creators and Back
to the Future. As long as they're involved in some capacity,
I'm all for it because I know they would steward
the franchise in a positive direction, but like if it's great. Like,
for instance, I saw the Ghostbusters movie Answer the Call,
the one that had the all female cast, and I
was excited for a new Ghostbusters movie, and I went

(01:02:51):
and saw it, and I didn't really like it. It
had nothing to do with the cast being all female.
I just didn't connect with the movie as much. And
I thought, man, that's so I've been waiting so much
more so long for a great Ghostbusters movie and this
one just didn't hit the mark for me. But then
I found out Jose that it didn't tamper my love
at all for the original two Ghostbusters movies. It was
then that I said, you know what, I'd be open

(01:03:13):
to a new Back to the Future if it's great, amazing.
I have more Back to the Future of my life
that I can dissect and talk about. If it's not great,
I still have the original trilogy, which is perfect as
it is.

Speaker 8 (01:03:25):
Wow, So what can people expect out of this book?
I mean, I know if you can't shar too many nuggets,
but what should people expect from this book?

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
So look, it's not just about the making of Back
to the Future and its sequels. I mean, we definitely
do that, but this book has several different layers to it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
We talk about the making of the movies and the casting.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
We talk about the musical, which just started a few
years ago. We talk about the animated series, the theme
park attraction, the Back to the Future video game, the
comic book series that came out. We dive into fan theories.
We talk about Doc Brown's greatest inventions, what the future
of Hill Valley might look like. So it's all compiled
into this book. And you know, I've had the privilege
of talking to Christopher Lloyd, Bob Gail, Bobson, beck Is,

(01:04:05):
Leah Thompson, Crispin Glover, Jeffrey Wiseman A Mikey Dave from
Saturday Night Live actually writes the forward to the book.
But I've talked to all these people over the years
on my podcast about Back to the Future, and they've
given me so much great nuggets and inside of information
that I wanted to compile them in some kind of way.
And that's what people can expect and why we love
Back to the Future.

Speaker 8 (01:04:26):
If you were to go back to the future to
your younger days, what would you change about yourself or
the advice you would give yourself right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Now, you know what, the advice that I would give
myself is just stay calm. Everything happens well when you
just stay calm, don't overreact, don't underreact, just stay level,
and everything's going to be all right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
But I'm one of those guys who I start thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
About the butterfly effect, like and if I go back,
I don't want to change anything, because you know what,
you know, we've all taken some lumps and cuts and bruises,
but everything we're not makes us everything we are, So
I wouldn't change a thing. But I would love to
go in to the future and see what it looks like.
I just want to be an observer, fly on the wall.
I don't want to cause any paradoxes or interrupt the
space time continuum, jose but I would love to see

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what the world looks like in a hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
Years preg Gilmore things most so much for your time.
Why we love back to the future forty years of fandom,
flux capacitors and timeless adventures. Thank you so much for
your time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Hey appreciate you, jose More. Hey guys, how y'all doing.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Hey, Hey Brad Why do we love Back to the
Future so much?

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Because it's the greatest movie ever made, It's the greatest
trilogy ever made. It's a generational story that has stood
the test of time and continues to find new audiences
year after year.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
I know, is that crazy?

Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
Like it's so true. I saw this and I see
you have a it's a book, right, a new book out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Yeah, Why we love Back to the Future? Forty years
of fandom, flux capacitors and timeless adventures forty years?

Speaker 10 (01:05:55):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Why?

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
Hey, Tom, why are you making me feel old?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Man?

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
That was my childhood right there?

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Yeah. I mean, I think it's everybody's childhood, and I
think it continues to be everybody's childhood. You know, when
somebody finds this movie for the first time, there's something
about it that's just generational. And it doesn't matter that
it's a movie that came out forty years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
And when I watched it a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
My nephews, who are you know, they were I don't know,
maybe eight and nine at the time, it was like
it was a brand new movie. You know. It didn't
feel dated, it didn't feel old, It didn't feel like
a forty year old movie. It felt something fresh, and
it has these themes that everybody can relate to, Like
have you ever thought about it? Like what would it
be like to go to high school with your parents?
That's a strange concept to think about, and I think

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that's part of the appeal. You had these universal themes
with the fantastical elements and a cool car that can
travel through time.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
Will your movie will forever be relevant?

Speaker 10 (01:06:50):
Well let me ask you this, Brad, why did they
come out with that to the Future three? I think
they were good when they were done too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Oh well, hold on now it's now. Look, I'm from
the great state of Texas. Well, we love a good
Western okay. And to me, Back to the Future three,
I love Back to the Future three. It's one of
my It sometimes is my favorite of the trilogy. And
you know who else's favorite it is? And I and
the quote is in the book Christopher Lloyd. His favorite
is Back to the Future Part three. What do you
say about that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
No way?

Speaker 10 (01:07:19):
Everybody knows that two was the best.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Come on two, two?

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
I mean two original?

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Look, two is great. But that's what's great about this trilogy.
It's the greatest movie trilogy of all time best pure
trilogy of all time, and like for me personally, sometimes
two is my favorite, sometimes it's one, sometimes it's three,
and and the stories are so close and they're so intertwined.
I can't watch Back to the Future and not immediately
want to see Back to the Future two and Back

(01:07:52):
to the Future three. I spend a lot of hours
watching Back to the Future. I guess what I'm saying,
But all of them are interchangeable and they can be
your favor in any given moment.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
Man, that's great. Now you've also been a host of
the Back to the Future podcast? Is that true?

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Yeah? Man, So this word all started back in twenty fifteen,
this was the year that we finally made it to
the future. I was looking around. I'm like, hey, there's
got to be a podcast about back to the Future.
There's a podcast about everything, you know, there's a podcast
about like, which are the best seedless watermelon? There's got
to be one about back to the Future. And so
I was looking around and I didn't find one. So
I said, you know what, I might as well started.

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And that led me to talking to Crispin Glover, Leah Thompson,
Christopher Lloyd, Bob Gail Robert Zemeckis. The list goes on
and on of the people I've been able to interact
with from the Back to the Future world because of
the podcast, And it was those stories that I heard
from all these cast members and creators that made me go, Wow,
this information should be compiled in some sort of literary

(01:08:49):
project that can last the test of time in the
same way as the movie did. And that's where the
book came from.

Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Man, how did you like really like watch the movies
like up close over again and kind of like does
the analyze and talk about them and all that? Is
that how you kind of got going on the podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
Yeah, you know, it was just like, Hey, I just
want to I just want to have more conversations with
people who love this movie as much as I did.
And you know, thankfully so many people were receptive and
and and have actually made contributions to this very book.
Harry Waters Junior, who plays Marvin Barry from the movie,
who sings Earth Angel that we all tried to sing
to our high school sweethearts as well. He actually writes

(01:09:29):
the introduction to the book, Saturday Night Lives. Mikey Day
writes the forward to the book, and Jeffrey Wiseman, who
took over the role of George McFly. He writes a
section about his experience with Back to the Future, and
it really is it's a it's a love letter.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
It's a love letter.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
That's why it's called why We Love Back to the Future,
because I've never met somebody who goes, oh, back to
the Future, that movie sucks. No, everybody loves this movie
and there's something about it that you just cannot find
a flaw in.

Speaker 10 (01:09:57):
Yeah, you're right, absolutely, it's one of our phases. Also,
you've been announcer for WWE Hall of Famer Booker T's
Reality of Wrestling promotion in Texas, So that's awesome, you know,
working with Booker T for big WWE fans as well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Yeah. No, Book's the best man, you know, I've I've
I've worked with Booker now since twenty twelve, and he's
actually one of my closest friends. I probably talked to
Booker more on the phone than anybody, even my own mother,
on a daily basis. And we've been able to grow
Reality Wrestling. We have our ESPN radio show, which is
called The Hall of Fame, where we talk about pro
wrestling combat sports boxing. And you know what, Booker t

(01:10:36):
is a big Back to the Future fan. He's a
big Back to the Future fan as well. I think
that he might like the Beverly Hills Cop series of
movies a little bit more, but he loves back to
the future.

Speaker 7 (01:10:45):
So we can always talk some great eighties movies together.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
Well, if people want to check you and Booker out,
how can they do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
You can find our Reality Wrestling YouTube channel, the Hall
of Fame podcast where we you know, talk about pro
wrestling every single every single week. You can check that
out and really give our show, give our show a test.
That Reality of Wrestling promotion we have down here in Houston.
It's the first promotion to ever be giving a WWE
official designation as one of the premier schools in the

(01:11:12):
entire world if you want to get to the next level.
So that's right here in Houston, Texas, and Booker and
I are very proud of that.

Speaker 10 (01:11:19):
Isn't that awesome? How like mainstream sports like ESPN and
you know other big sports nityas Fox Sports, et cetera,
how they kind of you know, accepted wrestling now finally
after all these years. You know, it was always like, oh,
wrestling is is? You know, that's more entertainment, that's not
real sports. But now all of a sudden, WWE and

(01:11:40):
professional wrestling is everywhere and that awesome. How like the
ESPN's at all have accepted professional wrestling is?

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
It is incredible?

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
And you know, I've always been a wrestling fan since
the age of five years old. When I first saw
Stone Cold Steve Austin what give me a hell?

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
When I first saw him, he was the guy. And
then now to actually just this past April, I was
there in Las Vegas, Nevada at WrestleMania doing a live
national radio show for ESPN with Booker t talking about
wrestling for hours on end and taking callers from around
the globe to talk about the thing that we all love.
We all love pro wrestling, and we all love back

(01:12:17):
to the future. These are the two universal truths in life.

Speaker 10 (01:12:21):
How do you feel about John Cena?

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
You know what, I love that he did seventeen.

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
I love that he did the heel turn.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
I think that, look, if this is his last run,
everyone always wanted to see it, so we're getting to
see it. I don't know how long it's going to last,
but to see him and Randy Orton lockhorns one more
time for the world title is going to be very
nostalgic for me. They're at Backlash in Saint Louis, so
we're gonna see, We're gonna see. And I think that
Cody's run needed to come to an end. I think
Sina was the best person to do it. I don't

(01:12:49):
you know Travis Scott, who who was kind of involved
in that main event for WrestleMania. He's actually, you know,
The Rock announced this on Pat McAfee, so I don't
mind saying it. You know, he's doing up with us
at Reality of Wrestling in a training capacity alright, coming up.
So you know, look, there's a lot of cool things
going on to the world of wrestling. But I love
John Cena. You know, he's one of the greatest of

(01:13:09):
all time. So I hope that he feels satisfied at
the end of this year.

Speaker 10 (01:13:15):
Brad Gilmore, why we love Back to the Future forty
years of fandom, Buck Capacitor Timeless Adventures Again. If people
want to pick the book up, how can they do that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
You can get wherever books are sold on Amazon's always
the easiest place. Back to the Future book dot com.
You can find them wherever man, Brad.

Speaker 10 (01:13:32):
Thank you so much for checking in, my friend. It
has been a fun interview and looking forward to checking
the book out. We love Back to the Future and
looking forward to you know, hearing you talk to wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Hey, man, anytime you want me to talk a little
pro wrestling, you just give me a call.

Speaker 10 (01:13:44):
Now, Hey, what's your social media?

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Real quick at Brad Gilmour everywhere B R A, D
G I, L M, O R E. You can find
me on every social app there.

Speaker 10 (01:13:55):
Thanks Brad, Thanks for checking in.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Hey, take care, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I'll tell you what exists the excitement for Back to
the Future. The fortieth anniversary of this fabulous film is
this July. It was released and initially set in the
year nineteen eighty five. I saw it in its original run,
Thank you very much. The film follows protagonist Marty McFly,
who attempts to return to his home time after accidentally
traveling back to the year nineteen fifty five. It didn't

(01:14:22):
seem that far away back then. He's in a DeLorean.
I've actually been in a doloreous see how I'm excited
about this film. It's regarded as one of the greatest
films ever made to this day, joining us to tell
us more about it and his new book, Why We
Love Back to the Future. It's Houston area writer, TV
hosting radio personality Brad Gilmore. Brad, welcome to Hello Houston.
Thank you for dressing up. You look fabulous.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Oh you know, I even have Deloreans on my tie here.
You know, I wanted to make sure I went all
the way. I really appreciate the invitation. I love talking
about Back to the Future and why we all love.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
You know, a lot of people don't know that Eric
Stoles was first choice for the lead.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Not only was he first choice, Eric still was cast
to be Marty McFly. They shot on the movie for
seven to eight weeks. They were gotten to the point
of the film where they were wrapping up and they
were talking about what their next project was, and then
Roberts A. Mekas the director of the movie, showed some
of the dailies to Steven Spielberg and Spielberg goes, you know,
you're just not getting the laughs that you want, And
they made a crazy decision to recast their main lead

(01:15:20):
in the movie eight weeks into production, and they had
a Fire Stoltz and hire Michael J.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Fox. What well I read before we get off of
that that Stultz looked at this movie as more of
a serious throwback to the past. And then that's why
that Spielberg was like, he's too serious.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Well, he was playing it as if it were really happening,
and like it if you went if any he had
any all due respect Eric Stolt's great actor, but yeah,
he had. He had people call him Marty. He was
very method on the set. You know, you referred to
him always as Marty, and uh yeah, I mean, but
you know what if you went back in time and
you were stuck there and your mom started to come
on to you a little bit, you might be playing
it really serious too, you know, instead of the jokes

(01:15:55):
that Michael J. Fox did it with.

Speaker 13 (01:15:57):
But which did you start to really love? I mean
back to the future. And that's pretty niche in that
you saw the movie, how you look kind of young?
What's like when did you get into this?

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
So I got in the movie real young. I saw
it on television one time and it just captured my imagination.
I'm the youngest of four and my oldest brother and
I are twenty three. Years apart, so we don't have
a lot in common culturally speaking right over the times
that we grew up. But Back to the Future was
something we bonded with. My dad is in his eighties.
He grew up in the fifties, so for me, it
was almost a connection to my family in a lot

(01:16:30):
of ways, which I think is where this movie first
came to be. Bob Gail, the writer of Back to
the Future co creator, found his dad's yearbook and said, oh, wow,
you know, I didn't know that my dad was the
president of his graduating class. I would have never had
anything to do with the president of my graduating class.
And they went to the same high school. So we thought,
I wonder what would happen if I went to high
school with my parents? Would we be friends or not?

(01:16:52):
And that was the germ of the idea that birth
Back to the Future of the franchise and kind of
you know, the family element has always been something that
stuck with me.

Speaker 13 (01:17:00):
That's amazing because this is your second book about Back
to the Future. How did you do two books on
Back to the Future? How much content can you really?

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Yeah, well, look, I went all the way back to
the past, future, present, all of through the FaceTime continuum. Well,
what's great about these movies is they continue to find
an audience and there continue to be spin off projects
around it. There was a musical that launched in twenty
twenty actually right before the pandemic in the West End
in London, and then it's transferred over here to the
United States. I got to see it on Broadway back

(01:17:31):
in twenty twenty three. It's coming to Houston, I believe,
this summer. And there's an animated series. There was a ride,
there's a comic book, there's a video game. There's so
much about Back to the Future that you can really
dive into. And that's what I wanted to do with
this one, coming up on this fortieth anniversary. I wanted
to really get into why we actually love this movie
and what.

Speaker 13 (01:17:47):
Connects us to And so I guess you know, for you, you
were mentioning how it really ties back to your family
and your roots and that connection it brought to you.
Why do you think it's still such a cultural phenomenon
across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
You know, Quentin Tarantino regarded as a perfect movie, and
I think when people see the film, it's hard to
find a flaw in it, and I think it explores
themes that were all curious by not only the family factor,
but a time machine. Who hasn't thought about if I
could only go back and change this, And that's what
the film's you know, hits on Crispin Glover's character, George McFly.
If I would have stood up to the bully, would

(01:18:20):
my life have been different? Well, it turns out that
if you do stand up for yourself, maybe your life
turns out different. I think those themes of time travel
and just wondering what would have been is what makes
people keep coming back to it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Well, clearly it's dated, but I don't think it's one
of those movies. Well I'm dated to their opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Your opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Well, I mean, you know, I don't think it's one
of those movies that can be remade in twenty thirty
to go back to nineteen ninety You know what I'm saying,
do you?

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
You're the expert, So yeah, I mean, if Back to
the Future were to be set in the past today,
it would be nineteen ninety five, which doesn't really feel
like that long ago. But for me, yeah, the Bobs,
Bob Gale and Robert zemechis you know who created this franchise.
They actually said, over their dead bodies, will there ever
be another Back to the Future movie or series? I

(01:19:08):
think you could do it. You know you could do it,
but should you? Should you?

Speaker 7 (01:19:13):
That's the could you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
How would you even cast it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
You know, I mean, there's just.

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
No you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Michael J.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Fox was so.

Speaker 13 (01:19:22):
Yeah, Well, we do have a question from our YouTube comments.
My British computer guy says, I want to know which
is his favorite of the movies.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
There were three, right, there's three Back to the Futures
right Back to Future one, two and three obviously for me,
and I don't know if it's just because I'm from
Texas and something about Westerns are just embedded in our DNA,
but I actually love Back to the Future three the most,
which is actually an opinion not hailed by Minute's. It's
the most unpopular of the three. But you know who
shares it with me, it's Christopher Lloyd. When I talked

(01:19:52):
to Christopher Lloyd, who plays Doc Brown in the films,
he said part three was his favorite as well. So
that's that's my But you know what it changes every day.
It's like asking me what My favorite food is like
some days it's Mexican, some days it's sushi. But I
love all the food. I love all the back to
the future.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
If somebody is actually listening that hasn't seen this.

Speaker 13 (01:20:11):
Movie, okay, congratulations, I haven't seen this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Movie you're in. I wouldn't say it with Brad, He'll
tell you everything that's about that.

Speaker 13 (01:20:19):
By the way, my British computer guy says no to
your movie three.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Then he's not my British computer guy.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
What's your elevator pitch? Why do should Celestie this movie tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:20:30):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Why should you see it tonight? Because it hits on
all the universal themes. It's time travel, it's fantasy, it's
sci fi, it's romance. It is perfectly cast, perfectly directed,
perfectly executed and written. And to me it is not
only the greatest film of the eighties, it's the greatest
trilogy of all time. And it is on the mount
rushmore greatest films ever made.

Speaker 13 (01:20:47):
So should I watch it? You know, one, two, and three?

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
Or if you want to do it properly? Do you
want to do it the right way? You know you
watch them all in one night so you can go
on that cinematic space time travel ride. But to me,
what's great about these movies is I can pick them
up wherever they are. Once you know the film, you
can watch it like wherever it is in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
I'm guessing they've redone the quality so that yeah, it
looks like it was shot yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what's only interesting about
that is so the quality has gotten so good. You
can see a little bit of the old age makeup,
like on their necks and a little bit where the
wrinkles are. Because it's so good. But yeah, I mean
it to me though, it just still feels fresh even
though it was forty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Have we ever written in a DeLorean? I have?

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Have you?

Speaker 13 (01:21:27):
No, I've the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
She would be like, what's the DeLorean?

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 13 (01:21:32):
I'd be like, oh that car. So my bridge computer guy,
by the way, says two all the way.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
So two is great. So here's what's interesting too, is
Back to Future two is where they actually go to
the future, and the future was twenty fifteen, and when
you look at it now, you say, okay, we don't
have flying cars or hoverboards, but they did get a
lot of things right, you know, picture and picture, paying
with things with your thumb print or your face ID,
Google glasses. There's like a lot of small little things.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Black and the black janitor becoming the mayor. Yeah, that
was the first social statement that's already matter.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Yeah, if you come from mayor right, mayor Goldie Wilson.

Speaker 13 (01:22:04):
So if somebody wants to have a conversation about this
with you, where can they find out?

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
It's morning though.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
You can follow me on all social media at Brad
Gilmour Back to the FutureBook dot com, get it wherever
you can listen to the podcast. We'll talk back to
the Future all day long.

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