June 3, 2024 • 27 mins
July 3rd, 1985 - a day that a little time travel movie produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis called Back to the Future was released to the public. This podcast will dive into the world of BTTF, and discuss the movies, characters, and behind-the-scenes details on one of the greatest trilogies of all time. So buckle in, make sure your flux capacitor is fluxing, and enjoy the 88 mile per hour adventure of the Back to the Future trilogy. Order the "Back from the Future" paperback with expanded material!
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Back to the Future: The Podcast is produced and presented by Brad Gilmore, and is not affiliated with the Back to the Future franchise. This show is meant for entertainment and documentary purposes only, and does not intend to infringe on any copyrights of Universal Pictures, Back to the Future, or any of its characters, clips or music. Brad Gilmore expresses views and statements which represent that of the hosts and the guests of the program alone. The statements made on this program are in no way intended to represent views of any other organization affiliated with the hosts or guests and in no way represent the views of the sponsors.
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Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop. Okay, it's great,
Marten. Can't be such a backto the future. Oh. I know
you did send me back to thefuture, but I'm back. I'm back
from the future. A right,Wait a minute, waitsh f are you're
(00:27):
telling me that you built the timemachine the way I see it? If
you're gonna build a time machine,why not doing some style? All right,
guys, Brad Gilmore here, welcometo Back in the Future, the
podcast only podcast looking back in timeat the Grist film trilogy of All Time.
Back to the Future again, I'myour friend in time, Brad Gilmore.
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You' all getting a mobile edition ofBack to the Future of the podcast.
I am en route to a destinationand I put it in the GPS
and it said you got forty minutesish. So I pulled out my handy
Zoom pod track recorder, which,by the way, I just got.
I've been a big Zoom H fourend user for at least a decade,
(01:15):
and I switched over to this podtrack over the weekend and I really like
it. You know, it hasa four channels. You can even have
soundboard on it. You can eachhave your own audio out to hear your
headsets and stuff if you need that. It's a really nifty little studio.
Kind of reminds me of the roadProcaster or what is it called roadpod pro
(01:37):
Caster? Yeah, road caster,the road Caster one and two, which
I have as well. And thisworks like a dream. You know.
It's much smaller and mobile, andit doesn't have all the capabilities I don't
think that the road caster does,but it's it does a great job.
So shout out to a zoom.That's not even a product placement, not
even a product placement, but youknow what, shout out to Zoom.
(01:59):
I am recovering from what was quitethe weekend at the George R. Brown
Convention Center in Houston, Texas.A lot of you have probably already heard
by the time this goes up,the live podcast that we did at Comic
Palooza. When I say we andme myself, Michael Carroll, Sean the
(02:21):
mayor of nerd Tropolis, and JeffSmith, who's the documentarian for Who Done
It at the Clue documentary and healso co hosts Clue Movie podcast with me
and if y'all haven't checked out aClue movie podcast again, I know I've
given it several plugs. And you'veheard Jeff on this show before, and
I think I even played the pilotedition of the show on here. I
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really have had so much fun watchinga movie one minute at a time.
And to be honest with you,the first time I ever heard of that
concept was Back to the Future minute, which I was supposed to be a
guest, but my internet connection wasawful and I couldn't do the show.
I mean, I was in theroom, me and Norman Benford chat out
(03:07):
to DJ Norman Norman from Rucker Park. We were. We were in the
room trying to do it and gethim done, but I just couldn't just
couldn't get my internet to work backthen, and I had an old Mac
book. Anyway, these are minordetails. That's the first time I heard
of the by the minute way oflooking at a movie and doing a podcast
by it. Because I'll be honestwith you, the Back to the Future
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podcast, the one that you're listeningto right now. To give you a
brief origin story, I was incollege. This is nine years ago.
I remember it vividly, although Idon't remember the class because I wasn't beying
attentions. But I was in aclass and it was coming up on twenty
fifth it was twenty fifteen, butcoming up on future day of twenty fifteen,
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and it was early in the year. I started thinking about, Man,
I can't believe this is the yearthat they went back to the future.
We're in it. This is crazy, and I'm trying to figure out,
Okay, what am I going todo with my solo feed the Brad
Gilmore Show. And at the time, The Brad Gilmore Show was just a
weekly podcast where we broke down theunderground hip hop scene in Houston. That's
(04:18):
exactly what it was. So,I mean I talked to rappers pretty much
every week, so whether that bea Slim Thug, Paul Wall, Chamellionaire,
those are a few that I hadon. Rizza was on the show,
and a lot of underground cats who'veyou know, gone on since to
do a lot of great things.Shout out to them all. But I
was trying to think of, youknow, hey, what are my next
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episode is going to be? Forthe for the Brad Gilmour Show. And
then I said, you know,it'd be cool to do a six to
eight episode arc of a retrospective onBack to the Future. And that's how
the show started. It was aBack to the Future retrospective, and so
I started reaching out to people andthat's where I reached out to Jason Aaron
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and Kevin Pike and Jeffrey Weissman andClaudia Wells, all who were on early
episodes of the show, and Ithought, man, this is cool.
They all said yes, wow,okay, and then I said, well,
I have all the I'm starting toget all these episodes. Cassine Gaines
was on one of the early ones. I said, I'm getting all these
episodes. Maybe it should just beits own feed. And at the time,
(05:26):
I didn't know anybody who had morethan one podcast. This is again
early but this pre podcast boom period. This is when you know, Adam
Carolla was still the podfather and allthat. So I didn't know anybody who
had more than one podcast, andI was a little bit concerned about trying
to keep that up, you know. And anyway, long story short,
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I went ahead and said, look, I'm gonna make it my own feed.
It'll be Back to the Future ofthe retrospective, which then morphed to
Back to the Future of the podcast, and we'll just talk about it for
this eight episode run and that'll beit. And then what I found while
trying to put this podcast together washow much I enjoyed it. I just
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enjoyed talking about the movie. Andwhat this podcast made me do was learn
more about the movie than I everhad before and really look at it and
think about it and understand it ata deeper level. And I actually got
a note from somebody on Twitter theother day. I don't know if I
could pull this up while I'm ata red light. I'm really playing risky
(06:30):
business here. If I can pullit up, I will. But I
got a Twitter mentioned from somebody theother day talking about the podcast and how
they had just discovered it and theydidn't know that it existed. And hold
on, let me see if Ican find this. Let's say, scroll
scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll scroll. Where is this?
(06:51):
It's got to be here? Soah, here it is. This is
from a cosmic blink. Is hisname or name? On Twitter? I
just discovered your Back to the Futureof the podcast. I know, almost
ten years late. It started offa little shaky, but you quickly won
me over. With some great guestsand co host I enjoyed discussions. I
(07:12):
know you've done a lot since then, but I wanted to say thanks hashtag
pinheads, and so I want togive a shout out to Cosmic Blink because
it has been a passion project.And what I've loved most about this show
is I I'm kind of happy thatI didn't know a lot about the movie.
(07:35):
I didn't know a lot that allof you probably listening to the show
would scream at me through your headphonesor through your car speaker, be like,
how do you not know that you'regetting this wrong? Because just because
this has been my favorite movie doesn'tmean I'm the foremost expert. And I
almost feel on this show like aguy I've interviewed before and gotten to meet
(08:01):
a couple of times in person.Rick Harrison from The Pond Stars, Rick,
if you and by the way,I dropped that because I really enjoyed
the interview that we did on thecollection podcast. But Rick, if you've
ever seen Pond Stars, paw nnot the other one. He you know,
will know about an item. Somebodybrings an item into his shop,
(08:22):
say it's a historical document signed bya president. He'll tell you about the
item, he knows some of thebackground of the item, and then he
goes what what does he always do? Hey, I'd like to call in
an expert and to really take alook at this. And that's when I
feel like I've done with this show. Is I know enough? But I
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want to call in experts. Iwant people who know more than me on
the show. You know, It'slike Denzel said in An American Gangster,
the loudest one of the rooms,the weakest one in the room. And
sometimes I just want to ask thequestions and get the information. And it's
just kind of ironic that after I'vehosted it Back to the Future podcast,
I am looked at as officionado andin some ways I guess it's an apropos
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title, but in a lot ofways it's not right. I am a
fan, I will always be afan, and just because I'm a fan
doesn't mean I know everything. Justbecause I talk on this show doesn't mean
I know everything. Just because Iwrote a book about it doesn't mean I'm
the expert on it. And likethe books the same way as the podcast,
(09:28):
I put that book out, andthen two years later I know way
more than when I was writing thebook, which I'm working on doing something
about that, by the way,But anyway, that's my point. My
point is it's great to grow,and it's great to grow with something,
and it's great for y'all to hearmy growth. If you go listen from
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this show today and you go backand listen to the very first episode I
put out in twenty fifteen, Iactually sound different because it's been nine years,
almost ten, and there's been threeor four times I've really contemplated not
doing this podcast anymore. I don'tknow, through perhaps my own anxieties about
certain things, and I just Ijust never want to do anything that wouldever
(10:13):
hurt the podcast or hurt the franchise, which I don't know what I could
do, but you know what I'msaying, I just want to make sure
I live up to the billing.And there's been times I've got busy and
not been able to be as attentiveto it. There's been times I've recorded
episodes, as you know, andlost them. But this this weekend that
I had getting prepared to do theBack to the Future Live podcast, you
(10:37):
know, having conversations. As you'veheard. The last several episodes have just
been interviews I've done for other thingswhere Back to the Future had some sort
of connection to it, whether thatbe Leslie's Amechis Bill Maher who was on
the show, the guys from Cobra, Kai Eli Roth, John Cryer,
all of them being on the show. I think made it, you know,
(11:01):
interesting to hear how back to theFuture is really a part of everybody's
life. But I've been reinvigorated byit and I really want to bring brand
new episodes to you all and reallykill I mean, I've been working on
the season ten for like a yearnow. I think we've done more episodes
this season than ever, and Ithink that this is a nice This podcast
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today is serving as a nice littleepilogue, I think to season ten.
Now. I know I haven't finishedthe Paradox chapters or a script yet podcast
yet. I am going to dothat, but I do think this is
a nice place to put a pinin season ten because that live show is
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so much fun and boyd is fortyfive minutes go by fast? They give
you forty five minutes at this comicconvention. Let me actually give you this.
Here's the story that I'm gonna endwith. This is my epilogue.
So I got to give a shoutout to Laker Jim. Laker Gym has
never he has been on this show. With the Fletch podcast, I had
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the guys from Fletch cast on andwe talked about the eighty five trilogy theory
and back to the Future in Fletchand you know, two of my favorite
movies of all time. And Ieven like Fletch Lives. I don't like
Confess Fletch, but Laker Jim wouldagree Back to the Future is a better
trilogy than the three Fletch movies wehave. But nevertheless, Laker Jim text
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me and says, oh, look, because let me say this, I
am not plugged in to the comicconvention scene. I've been to prior to
this weekend to comic cons and theywere both Comic Palooza, they were both
in Houston. They were both forReality of Wrestling because I was calling the
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wrestling shows that we were doing there. But Laker Jim text me and says,
hey, check this out, andhe sends me any text with a
link of Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox We're going to be in Houston
at Comic Palooza, and I'm like, oh wow, that's crazy, And
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you know, he said, youknow, you got to find a way
to be there. And again,I don't go to comic cons. It's
not that I wouldn't like them,because I actually had a hell of a
time over the weekend, but Ijust never go. I never think about
going. So anyway, I goand look up comic poalosic look up when
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it is Okay, it's at theend of May, I'm in town.
I'm not doing anything. Let mejust send an email over So I send
an email to the Comic Palooza staffand I want to give them a big
shout out. They were awesome,and I said, hey, my name
is Brett Gilmour. Was CW thirtynine ESPN Radio. I do it Back
to the Future podcast. Would loveto I see that Michael J. And
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Cris Christopher Lloyd are going to behere. Would love to be involved in
some kind of way. And reallyI had no idea of how I wanted
to be involved. I would haveloved to do media with him, you
know, but I'm sure they getthat request in every place they go,
and I've had Christopher Lloyd on theshow and I'm so thankful for that.
So I'm thinking, okay, that'sI just want to get involved some kind
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of way. So I didn't haveany thoughts. Heard back from them a
couple of days later, Hey,Brad, thanks for reaching out. We
think that we'd love to have youout as part of media. We'd like
for you to cover some of theevent and would love for you to do
maybe something on that comic Pollson.A couple of days go by, I
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get reached out again. Hey,you have a Back of the Future podcast.
We have a podcast program. We'dlove for you to do the podcast
live. I said, yes,let's do it. And then so then
I go to do the podcast andI'm thinking, okay, well, let
me have Jeff Smith come down anddo it. I have my boy Sean
from Nertropolis and I've been trying towork on stuff together late recently, and
Michael Carroll, who's so many timesby saving Grace and he doesn't understand how
(15:07):
much I appreciate that man and whathe does at ESP and I some five
and Gal Media. I've been workingwith Michael for five years now and He's
just a great dude, and everytime I would see him, we would
talk comic book movies and stuff likethat. So he asked me to do
his podcast that was live at ComicPalooza. I said yes, So anyway,
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they do that, and then I'mseeing this meet and greet opportunity.
I'm realizing because I asked to moderatethe panel, they already had somebody moderating
it. Shout out to Ertie Manouseand so I'm like, look, I
was talking to loved ones and prettymuch they were saying like, look,
you're never going to be in thesame room, or you don't know if
you're ever going to be in thesame room as Christopher Lloyd and Michael J.
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Fox. Again, you might aswell just get the photo, you
know. So, I mean,I didn't get any preferential treatment, and
I didn't expect an he didn't askfor any I was just a fan like
everybody else, and I went inthere and I paid my money to get
that photo with Michael J. Foxand Christopher Lloyd because it meant these movies.
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It meant so much to me.I mean, I mentioned it on
the show over the years, I'msure, and I mentioned in the book,
my grandmother succumbed to Parkinson's disease.You know, that's what ended her
life, you know, were thelong term effects of it. And she
didn't have it for nearly as longas Michael Jay has had it, but
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she got it older in age,whereas he got it younger. And it's
strange to me that these have alwaysbeen my favorite movies, you know,
and when they became my favorite movies, it was a similar around a similar
time that my grandmother was diagnosed withParkinson's And the ability to stand next to
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Michael j and to Christopher Lloyd,even for a brief few seconds and get
a photograph was pretty incredible, youknow. It was really amazing because Christopher
Lloyd, I've said it to him, and I've said it on this show,
and I've said it always has alwaysbeen one of my favorite actors.
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I've seen nearly every movie that he'sdone, including some that you know,
people probably not have heard of,like Going South, which was the original
western he did with Mary stein Bergenand Jack Nicholson. And to have that
photo, which is now prominently displayedon my refrigerator and obviously in my phone
for life, it meant a lot, man, And honestly, I sat
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down, I was waiting for Jeffwho was in line to meet Chris Lloyd
sitting there at Comic Palooza looking atthat photograph, and I got emotional.
I'm getting emotional almost right now thinkingabout it because of what it means to
me and what these movies have meantto me. They're more than just favorite
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films that I've watched. They've beencomfort food. They've been man, I've
had a really rough week. Letme put Back to the Future on.
They've done all kinds of things forme, and I've had hours and hours
and hours of conversation. I've hadhours and hours of writing thousands of words,
and I've had several podcasts off ofthis show, you know, just
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conversations with people. I've been onother people's shows talking about Back to the
Future more than I can even remember, you know. And to be sitting
in the same building at the sametime as Michael J. Fox, Christopher
Lloyd, getting the photo and thengetting to go sit in front of an
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audience, you know, which Ididn't even think anybody was gonna turn up
for a podcast. It was atthe end of the night it was eight
o'clock. People stuck around and theychecked out Back to the Future of the
podcast live and I don't know wehad I don't know, maybe forty people
in there or something. It wasn'ta huge room anyway, but to have
those moments, I mean, itwas incredible. And then to post the
(19:26):
photo on Instagram and have Leslie's andMecha say, oh, you're with my
buddies. I mean, Leah Thompsoneven liked the photos. It's insane.
And what it reminds me of isreally what Back to the Future has always
been about. Back to the Future, as I said in the live podcast,
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is about choices. That's what thatmovie's about in a lot of ways,
how one choice can change your entiredidn't. And I think about that
stuff all the time. I goback and like, if my mother,
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you know, my mother was bornin Oklahoma, my father in Waco,
Texas. My grandparents are in Alabama. Somehow these three people are these three
entities and find their way to Houston. If my mother didn't live in the
house that she lived in, Iwouldn't have gone to the schools that I
lived in, do you know whatI mean? I went to because it
was in that neighborhood. If Ididn't go to those schools, I wouldn't
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have met my best friends where westarted a band together. If I didn't
start that band, I wouldn't havebeen into radio. If I didn't start
in the radio, wouldn't linked withBooker. If I didn't do that,
I wouldn't have done this podcast.Like there's so many things, so many
things that have happened because of onechoice. One choice, you know.
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Had I not started this podcast,I never would have gone and taken that
photo. It was that choice.Had I not started this podcast, I
would have never reached out to ComicPalooza, thinking I had some podcast credibility
to even try to get in theroom. Had I not reached out to
Comic Palooza, I wouldn't have hostedthe twentieth anniversary panel with John Heater and
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Efrin Ramirez for Napoleon Dynamite. Idid that this weekend, insane. I'm
backstage talking to John Heater and EfrinRamirez. We're talking about Christoph Lloyd.
We're talking about Back to the Future. In the back we're talking about Back
to the Future. We're talking aboutmovies that we like Chris Lloyd in efrom
Ramirez mentioned the Lone Ranger, whichI had not seen. John Heater didn't
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even hear of that. He wason I indb looking it up. And
then I'm sitting there talking to themabout Clue and John Heater again didn't know
that Christoph Lloyd was in Clue.I was like, he played Professor Plumbos.
Oh my god, he did.And just to have that conversation back
stage was awesome. I wish Iwould have recorded that. Then we went
out on stage and and had themoment that we had with them, and
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they were great by the way.I mean, I can't put them over
enough, and how gracious they were, and we had great conversation on stage,
and I just really enjoyed it.Man, just really enjoyed this weekend,
and I reinvigorated my love for Backto the Future. It did,
and I'm working on doing some thingsfor this show to bolster this show up,
(22:34):
make it more awesome. Get betterguests. You can't really get better
guests. Get more guests. Letme say that, how you top Lea
Thompson and Bob Gail and Chris Lloydand Chrispin Glover and all the other casts
I've had on you know, it'sjust been an incredible, incredible honor to
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do this show, and this weekendmade me feel like that. It made
me feel happy, and by theway, had some Back to the Future
of the Podcast fans in Comic Balooza. Some people stop me and recognized me
somehow and we had some good conversationsthere. So shout out to the Comic
Balza crowd again. I fell athome. I felt at home, you
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know. But look, guys,I'm going to put the pin in season
ten with this. I'll be backlater this year. Don't worry. I'm
not going anywhere this year. It'sonly May. I guess maybe by the
time you hear this, it's June. But it's June. We got six
months of the year left, andI'm gonna make sure that I come up
(23:41):
with some bad ass ideas for backto the Future of the podcast and keep
this thing going. I've, likeI said, I thought it several times,
calling it a day. I eventold my wife at one moment for
this season season ten, I said, I'm gonna do season ten. Ten
seasons. That sounds like a goodrap, but I'm just not. I'm
just not finished yet. You know, I'm just not finished yet. And
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I want to make this show better. I want to bring y'all better conversations,
more engage, conversations, more thought. And this is where I'm gonna
leave y'all. I'm gonna leave youall with an unanswerable question. He might
say, what's what does that mean? Well, there are certain questions that
you can think about in movies thatyou just can't answer. I get this
(24:26):
from the Rewatchables podcast, which theyjust did Back to the Future too.
I'm gonna make that a topic ofconversation, trust me. In season eleven.
There are unanswerable questions. But I'mgonna leave you this unanswerable question,
which is something that comes up ina movie that is difficult to find what
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the answer is. It's almost likewhat's in the briefcase in pulp fiction.
You know, we don't know,we'll never know. It's unanswerable question posed
to me minutes before I walked outon stage with John Heater and e Fren
Ramirez for the Napoleon Dynamite panel.This question was posed to me by Jeff
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Smith. And this is the answer, all right, this is the question.
Rather, it doesn't have an answer. If Marty did not go back
to nineteen fifty five and have thatinteraction with Goldie Wilson where he told Goldie
Wilson, that's right, you're gonnabe mayor may man, I kind of
(25:34):
killed that may right. If hedidn't have that interaction with him that put
the seed in his brain to runfor mayor, then what did what made
Goldie Wilson want to run for mayorin nineteen eighty five and be mayor?
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How did that happen? It's anunanswerable question, but I'm leaving that to
you pinheads. Give us the answer, Tweet them to me, email them
to me Brad Gilmour at Can't WaitForever dot com. It's my email.
You can also hit me up onthe soshas at Brad Gilmour pretty much everywhere
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except for TikTok, which is atBoat Gilmore. And this has been back
to the future of the podcast seasonten. I hope you enjoy the live
show. This is kind of anepilogue to the live show, and we
will see you for season eleven andwe're gonna have hell of a season eleven.
But until then, I'm your friendin time. Brad Gilmore This is
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back to the Future of the podcast, the only podcast looking back in time
at the greatest film trilogy of alltime. Back to the future and I
will see you again in the future. The UK, The Sting, the Punctica,
Hi, everybody. This is BobGail, co creator Back to the Future,
and you're listening to Brad Gilmore.Stop. Okay, it's great,
Marten. Can't be such a backto the future. Oh. I know
you did send me back to thefuture, but I'm back. I'm back
from the future. A right,Wait a minute, waitsh f are you're
(00:27):
telling me that you built the timemachine the way I see it? If
you're gonna build a time machine,why not doing some style? All right,
guys, Brad Gilmore here, welcometo Back in the Future, the
podcast only podcast looking back in timeat the Grist film trilogy of All Time.
Back to the Future again, I'myour friend in time, Brad Gilmore.
(00:50):
You' all getting a mobile edition ofBack to the Future of the podcast.
I am en route to a destinationand I put it in the GPS
and it said you got forty minutesish. So I pulled out my handy
Zoom pod track recorder, which,by the way, I just got.
I've been a big Zoom H fourend user for at least a decade,
(01:15):
and I switched over to this podtrack over the weekend and I really like
it. You know, it hasa four channels. You can even have
soundboard on it. You can eachhave your own audio out to hear your
headsets and stuff if you need that. It's a really nifty little studio.
Kind of reminds me of the roadProcaster or what is it called roadpod pro
(01:37):
Caster? Yeah, road caster,the road Caster one and two, which
I have as well. And thisworks like a dream. You know.
It's much smaller and mobile, andit doesn't have all the capabilities I don't
think that the road caster does,but it's it does a great job.
So shout out to a zoom.That's not even a product placement, not
even a product placement, but youknow what, shout out to Zoom.
(01:59):
I am recovering from what was quitethe weekend at the George R. Brown
Convention Center in Houston, Texas.A lot of you have probably already heard
by the time this goes up,the live podcast that we did at Comic
Palooza. When I say we andme myself, Michael Carroll, Sean the
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mayor of nerd Tropolis, and JeffSmith, who's the documentarian for Who Done
It at the Clue documentary and healso co hosts Clue Movie podcast with me
and if y'all haven't checked out aClue movie podcast again, I know I've
given it several plugs. And you'veheard Jeff on this show before, and
I think I even played the pilotedition of the show on here. I
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really have had so much fun watchinga movie one minute at a time.
And to be honest with you,the first time I ever heard of that
concept was Back to the Future minute, which I was supposed to be a
guest, but my internet connection wasawful and I couldn't do the show.
I mean, I was in theroom, me and Norman Benford chat out
(03:07):
to DJ Norman Norman from Rucker Park. We were. We were in the
room trying to do it and gethim done, but I just couldn't just
couldn't get my internet to work backthen, and I had an old Mac
book. Anyway, these are minordetails. That's the first time I heard
of the by the minute way oflooking at a movie and doing a podcast
by it. Because I'll be honestwith you, the Back to the Future
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podcast, the one that you're listeningto right now. To give you a
brief origin story, I was incollege. This is nine years ago.
I remember it vividly, although Idon't remember the class because I wasn't beying
attentions. But I was in aclass and it was coming up on twenty
fifth it was twenty fifteen, butcoming up on future day of twenty fifteen,
(03:53):
and it was early in the year. I started thinking about, Man,
I can't believe this is the yearthat they went back to the future.
We're in it. This is crazy, and I'm trying to figure out,
Okay, what am I going todo with my solo feed the Brad
Gilmore Show. And at the time, The Brad Gilmore Show was just a
weekly podcast where we broke down theunderground hip hop scene in Houston. That's
(04:18):
exactly what it was. So,I mean I talked to rappers pretty much
every week, so whether that bea Slim Thug, Paul Wall, Chamellionaire,
those are a few that I hadon. Rizza was on the show,
and a lot of underground cats who'veyou know, gone on since to
do a lot of great things.Shout out to them all. But I
was trying to think of, youknow, hey, what are my next
(04:40):
episode is going to be? Forthe for the Brad Gilmour Show. And
then I said, you know,it'd be cool to do a six to
eight episode arc of a retrospective onBack to the Future. And that's how
the show started. It was aBack to the Future retrospective, and so
I started reaching out to people andthat's where I reached out to Jason Aaron
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and Kevin Pike and Jeffrey Weissman andClaudia Wells, all who were on early
episodes of the show, and Ithought, man, this is cool.
They all said yes, wow,okay, and then I said, well,
I have all the I'm starting toget all these episodes. Cassine Gaines
was on one of the early ones. I said, I'm getting all these
episodes. Maybe it should just beits own feed. And at the time,
(05:26):
I didn't know anybody who had morethan one podcast. This is again
early but this pre podcast boom period. This is when you know, Adam
Carolla was still the podfather and allthat. So I didn't know anybody who
had more than one podcast, andI was a little bit concerned about trying
to keep that up, you know. And anyway, long story short,
(05:48):
I went ahead and said, look, I'm gonna make it my own feed.
It'll be Back to the Future ofthe retrospective, which then morphed to
Back to the Future of the podcast, and we'll just talk about it for
this eight episode run and that'll beit. And then what I found while
trying to put this podcast together washow much I enjoyed it. I just
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enjoyed talking about the movie. Andwhat this podcast made me do was learn
more about the movie than I everhad before and really look at it and
think about it and understand it ata deeper level. And I actually got
a note from somebody on Twitter theother day. I don't know if I
could pull this up while I'm ata red light. I'm really playing risky
(06:30):
business here. If I can pullit up, I will. But I
got a Twitter mentioned from somebody theother day talking about the podcast and how
they had just discovered it and theydidn't know that it existed. And hold
on, let me see if Ican find this. Let's say, scroll
scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll scroll. Where is this?
(06:51):
It's got to be here? Soah, here it is. This is
from a cosmic blink. Is hisname or name? On Twitter? I
just discovered your Back to the Futureof the podcast. I know, almost
ten years late. It started offa little shaky, but you quickly won
me over. With some great guestsand co host I enjoyed discussions. I
(07:12):
know you've done a lot since then, but I wanted to say thanks hashtag
pinheads, and so I want togive a shout out to Cosmic Blink because
it has been a passion project.And what I've loved most about this show
is I I'm kind of happy thatI didn't know a lot about the movie.
(07:35):
I didn't know a lot that allof you probably listening to the show
would scream at me through your headphonesor through your car speaker, be like,
how do you not know that you'regetting this wrong? Because just because
this has been my favorite movie doesn'tmean I'm the foremost expert. And I
almost feel on this show like aguy I've interviewed before and gotten to meet
(08:01):
a couple of times in person.Rick Harrison from The Pond Stars, Rick,
if you and by the way,I dropped that because I really enjoyed
the interview that we did on thecollection podcast. But Rick, if you've
ever seen Pond Stars, paw nnot the other one. He you know,
will know about an item. Somebodybrings an item into his shop,
(08:22):
say it's a historical document signed bya president. He'll tell you about the
item, he knows some of thebackground of the item, and then he
goes what what does he always do? Hey, I'd like to call in
an expert and to really take alook at this. And that's when I
feel like I've done with this show. Is I know enough? But I
(08:43):
want to call in experts. Iwant people who know more than me on
the show. You know, It'slike Denzel said in An American Gangster,
the loudest one of the rooms,the weakest one in the room. And
sometimes I just want to ask thequestions and get the information. And it's
just kind of ironic that after I'vehosted it Back to the Future podcast,
I am looked at as officionado andin some ways I guess it's an apropos
(09:07):
title, but in a lot ofways it's not right. I am a
fan, I will always be afan, and just because I'm a fan
doesn't mean I know everything. Justbecause I talk on this show doesn't mean
I know everything. Just because Iwrote a book about it doesn't mean I'm
the expert on it. And likethe books the same way as the podcast,
(09:28):
I put that book out, andthen two years later I know way
more than when I was writing thebook, which I'm working on doing something
about that, by the way,But anyway, that's my point. My
point is it's great to grow,and it's great to grow with something,
and it's great for y'all to hearmy growth. If you go listen from
(09:48):
this show today and you go backand listen to the very first episode I
put out in twenty fifteen, Iactually sound different because it's been nine years,
almost ten, and there's been threeor four times I've really contemplated not
doing this podcast anymore. I don'tknow, through perhaps my own anxieties about
certain things, and I just Ijust never want to do anything that wouldever
(10:13):
hurt the podcast or hurt the franchise, which I don't know what I could
do, but you know what I'msaying, I just want to make sure
I live up to the billing.And there's been times I've got busy and
not been able to be as attentiveto it. There's been times I've recorded
episodes, as you know, andlost them. But this this weekend that
I had getting prepared to do theBack to the Future Live podcast, you
(10:37):
know, having conversations. As you'veheard. The last several episodes have just
been interviews I've done for other thingswhere Back to the Future had some sort
of connection to it, whether thatbe Leslie's Amechis Bill Maher who was on
the show, the guys from Cobra, Kai Eli Roth, John Cryer,
all of them being on the show. I think made it, you know,
(11:01):
interesting to hear how back to theFuture is really a part of everybody's
life. But I've been reinvigorated byit and I really want to bring brand
new episodes to you all and reallykill I mean, I've been working on
the season ten for like a yearnow. I think we've done more episodes
this season than ever, and Ithink that this is a nice This podcast
(11:22):
today is serving as a nice littleepilogue, I think to season ten.
Now. I know I haven't finishedthe Paradox chapters or a script yet podcast
yet. I am going to dothat, but I do think this is
a nice place to put a pinin season ten because that live show is
(11:43):
so much fun and boyd is fortyfive minutes go by fast? They give
you forty five minutes at this comicconvention. Let me actually give you this.
Here's the story that I'm gonna endwith. This is my epilogue.
So I got to give a shoutout to Laker Jim. Laker Gym has
never he has been on this show. With the Fletch podcast, I had
(12:03):
the guys from Fletch cast on andwe talked about the eighty five trilogy theory
and back to the Future in Fletchand you know, two of my favorite
movies of all time. And Ieven like Fletch Lives. I don't like
Confess Fletch, but Laker Jim wouldagree Back to the Future is a better
trilogy than the three Fletch movies wehave. But nevertheless, Laker Jim text
(12:24):
me and says, oh, look, because let me say this, I
am not plugged in to the comicconvention scene. I've been to prior to
this weekend to comic cons and theywere both Comic Palooza, they were both
in Houston. They were both forReality of Wrestling because I was calling the
(12:45):
wrestling shows that we were doing there. But Laker Jim text me and says,
hey, check this out, andhe sends me any text with a
link of Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox We're going to be in Houston
at Comic Palooza, and I'm like, oh wow, that's crazy, And
(13:07):
you know, he said, youknow, you got to find a way
to be there. And again,I don't go to comic cons. It's
not that I wouldn't like them,because I actually had a hell of a
time over the weekend, but Ijust never go. I never think about
going. So anyway, I goand look up comic poalosic look up when
(13:28):
it is Okay, it's at theend of May, I'm in town.
I'm not doing anything. Let mejust send an email over So I send
an email to the Comic Palooza staffand I want to give them a big
shout out. They were awesome,and I said, hey, my name
is Brett Gilmour. Was CW thirtynine ESPN Radio. I do it Back
to the Future podcast. Would loveto I see that Michael J. And
(13:50):
Cris Christopher Lloyd are going to behere. Would love to be involved in
some kind of way. And reallyI had no idea of how I wanted
to be involved. I would haveloved to do media with him, you
know, but I'm sure they getthat request in every place they go,
and I've had Christopher Lloyd on theshow and I'm so thankful for that.
So I'm thinking, okay, that'sI just want to get involved some kind
(14:16):
of way. So I didn't haveany thoughts. Heard back from them a
couple of days later, Hey,Brad, thanks for reaching out. We
think that we'd love to have youout as part of media. We'd like
for you to cover some of theevent and would love for you to do
maybe something on that comic Pollson.A couple of days go by, I
(14:41):
get reached out again. Hey,you have a Back of the Future podcast.
We have a podcast program. We'dlove for you to do the podcast
live. I said, yes,let's do it. And then so then
I go to do the podcast andI'm thinking, okay, well, let
me have Jeff Smith come down anddo it. I have my boy Sean
from Nertropolis and I've been trying towork on stuff together late recently, and
Michael Carroll, who's so many timesby saving Grace and he doesn't understand how
(15:07):
much I appreciate that man and whathe does at ESP and I some five
and Gal Media. I've been workingwith Michael for five years now and He's
just a great dude, and everytime I would see him, we would
talk comic book movies and stuff likethat. So he asked me to do
his podcast that was live at ComicPalooza. I said yes, So anyway,
(15:28):
they do that, and then I'mseeing this meet and greet opportunity.
I'm realizing because I asked to moderatethe panel, they already had somebody moderating
it. Shout out to Ertie Manouseand so I'm like, look, I
was talking to loved ones and prettymuch they were saying like, look,
you're never going to be in thesame room, or you don't know if
you're ever going to be in thesame room as Christopher Lloyd and Michael J.
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Fox. Again, you might aswell just get the photo, you
know. So, I mean,I didn't get any preferential treatment, and
I didn't expect an he didn't askfor any I was just a fan like
everybody else, and I went inthere and I paid my money to get
that photo with Michael J. Foxand Christopher Lloyd because it meant these movies.
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It meant so much to me.I mean, I mentioned it on
the show over the years, I'msure, and I mentioned in the book,
my grandmother succumbed to Parkinson's disease.You know, that's what ended her
life, you know, were thelong term effects of it. And she
didn't have it for nearly as longas Michael Jay has had it, but
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she got it older in age,whereas he got it younger. And it's
strange to me that these have alwaysbeen my favorite movies, you know,
and when they became my favorite movies, it was a similar around a similar
time that my grandmother was diagnosed withParkinson's And the ability to stand next to
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Michael j and to Christopher Lloyd,even for a brief few seconds and get
a photograph was pretty incredible, youknow. It was really amazing because Christopher
Lloyd, I've said it to him, and I've said it on this show,
and I've said it always has alwaysbeen one of my favorite actors.
(17:30):
I've seen nearly every movie that he'sdone, including some that you know,
people probably not have heard of,like Going South, which was the original
western he did with Mary stein Bergenand Jack Nicholson. And to have that
photo, which is now prominently displayedon my refrigerator and obviously in my phone
for life, it meant a lot, man, And honestly, I sat
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down, I was waiting for Jeffwho was in line to meet Chris Lloyd
sitting there at Comic Palooza looking atthat photograph, and I got emotional.
I'm getting emotional almost right now thinkingabout it because of what it means to
me and what these movies have meantto me. They're more than just favorite
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films that I've watched. They've beencomfort food. They've been man, I've
had a really rough week. Letme put Back to the Future on.
They've done all kinds of things forme, and I've had hours and hours
and hours of conversation. I've hadhours and hours of writing thousands of words,
and I've had several podcasts off ofthis show, you know, just
(18:41):
conversations with people. I've been onother people's shows talking about Back to the
Future more than I can even remember, you know. And to be sitting
in the same building at the sametime as Michael J. Fox, Christopher
Lloyd, getting the photo and thengetting to go sit in front of an
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audience, you know, which Ididn't even think anybody was gonna turn up
for a podcast. It was atthe end of the night it was eight
o'clock. People stuck around and theychecked out Back to the Future of the
podcast live and I don't know wehad I don't know, maybe forty people
in there or something. It wasn'ta huge room anyway, but to have
those moments, I mean, itwas incredible. And then to post the
(19:26):
photo on Instagram and have Leslie's andMecha say, oh, you're with my
buddies. I mean, Leah Thompsoneven liked the photos. It's insane.
And what it reminds me of isreally what Back to the Future has always
been about. Back to the Future, as I said in the live podcast,
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is about choices. That's what thatmovie's about in a lot of ways,
how one choice can change your entiredidn't. And I think about that
stuff all the time. I goback and like, if my mother,
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you know, my mother was bornin Oklahoma, my father in Waco,
Texas. My grandparents are in Alabama. Somehow these three people are these three
entities and find their way to Houston. If my mother didn't live in the
house that she lived in, Iwouldn't have gone to the schools that I
lived in, do you know whatI mean? I went to because it
was in that neighborhood. If Ididn't go to those schools, I wouldn't
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have met my best friends where westarted a band together. If I didn't
start that band, I wouldn't havebeen into radio. If I didn't start
in the radio, wouldn't linked withBooker. If I didn't do that,
I wouldn't have done this podcast.Like there's so many things, so many
things that have happened because of onechoice. One choice, you know.
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Had I not started this podcast,I never would have gone and taken that
photo. It was that choice.Had I not started this podcast, I
would have never reached out to ComicPalooza, thinking I had some podcast credibility
to even try to get in theroom. Had I not reached out to
Comic Palooza, I wouldn't have hostedthe twentieth anniversary panel with John Heater and
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Efrin Ramirez for Napoleon Dynamite. Idid that this weekend, insane. I'm
backstage talking to John Heater and EfrinRamirez. We're talking about Christoph Lloyd.
We're talking about Back to the Future. In the back we're talking about Back
to the Future. We're talking aboutmovies that we like Chris Lloyd in efrom
Ramirez mentioned the Lone Ranger, whichI had not seen. John Heater didn't
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even hear of that. He wason I indb looking it up. And
then I'm sitting there talking to themabout Clue and John Heater again didn't know
that Christoph Lloyd was in Clue.I was like, he played Professor Plumbos.
Oh my god, he did.And just to have that conversation back
stage was awesome. I wish Iwould have recorded that. Then we went
out on stage and and had themoment that we had with them, and
(22:07):
they were great by the way.I mean, I can't put them over
enough, and how gracious they were, and we had great conversation on stage,
and I just really enjoyed it.Man, just really enjoyed this weekend,
and I reinvigorated my love for Backto the Future. It did,
and I'm working on doing some thingsfor this show to bolster this show up,
(22:34):
make it more awesome. Get betterguests. You can't really get better
guests. Get more guests. Letme say that, how you top Lea
Thompson and Bob Gail and Chris Lloydand Chrispin Glover and all the other casts
I've had on you know, it'sjust been an incredible, incredible honor to
(22:56):
do this show, and this weekendmade me feel like that. It made
me feel happy, and by theway, had some Back to the Future
of the Podcast fans in Comic Balooza. Some people stop me and recognized me
somehow and we had some good conversationsthere. So shout out to the Comic
Balza crowd again. I fell athome. I felt at home, you
(23:18):
know. But look, guys,I'm going to put the pin in season
ten with this. I'll be backlater this year. Don't worry. I'm
not going anywhere this year. It'sonly May. I guess maybe by the
time you hear this, it's June. But it's June. We got six
months of the year left, andI'm gonna make sure that I come up
(23:41):
with some bad ass ideas for backto the Future of the podcast and keep
this thing going. I've, likeI said, I thought it several times,
calling it a day. I eventold my wife at one moment for
this season season ten, I said, I'm gonna do season ten. Ten
seasons. That sounds like a goodrap, but I'm just not. I'm
just not finished yet. You know, I'm just not finished yet. And
(24:04):
I want to make this show better. I want to bring y'all better conversations,
more engage, conversations, more thought. And this is where I'm gonna
leave y'all. I'm gonna leave youall with an unanswerable question. He might
say, what's what does that mean? Well, there are certain questions that
you can think about in movies thatyou just can't answer. I get this
(24:26):
from the Rewatchables podcast, which theyjust did Back to the Future too.
I'm gonna make that a topic ofconversation, trust me. In season eleven.
There are unanswerable questions. But I'mgonna leave you this unanswerable question,
which is something that comes up ina movie that is difficult to find what
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the answer is. It's almost likewhat's in the briefcase in pulp fiction.
You know, we don't know,we'll never know. It's unanswerable question posed
to me minutes before I walked outon stage with John Heater and e Fren
Ramirez for the Napoleon Dynamite panel.This question was posed to me by Jeff
(25:11):
Smith. And this is the answer, all right, this is the question.
Rather, it doesn't have an answer. If Marty did not go back
to nineteen fifty five and have thatinteraction with Goldie Wilson where he told Goldie
Wilson, that's right, you're gonnabe mayor may man, I kind of
(25:34):
killed that may right. If hedidn't have that interaction with him that put
the seed in his brain to runfor mayor, then what did what made
Goldie Wilson want to run for mayorin nineteen eighty five and be mayor?
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How did that happen? It's anunanswerable question, but I'm leaving that to
you pinheads. Give us the answer, Tweet them to me, email them
to me Brad Gilmour at Can't WaitForever dot com. It's my email.
You can also hit me up onthe soshas at Brad Gilmour pretty much everywhere
(26:17):
except for TikTok, which is atBoat Gilmore. And this has been back
to the future of the podcast seasonten. I hope you enjoy the live
show. This is kind of anepilogue to the live show, and we
will see you for season eleven andwe're gonna have hell of a season eleven.
But until then, I'm your friendin time. Brad Gilmore This is
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back to the Future of the podcast, the only podcast looking back in time
at the greatest film trilogy of alltime. Back to the future and I
will see you again in the future. The UK, The Sting, the Punctica,
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