#35 | Mitchell Starc

In this episode, Australian fast bowler Mitchell Starc joins Cooper & Matty for an insightful chat. The trio dives into Australia's recent triumph over India, the breakout performance of young talent Sam Konstas, and some fascinating behind-the-scenes stories from within the Australian camp. There's plenty of banter, laughs, and cricket insights you won't want to miss!

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0:00-Australia v India

6:30-Virat

11:00-Highest IPL Bid

11:50-Sam Konstas

20:20-The Pressures

22:00-Touring

31:40-Chris Lynn

34:00-Best Ground

35:20-Best Batsman

39:12-Best Teammate

40:00-Tough Talk

48:50-Jack & Starcy

50:00-Mitch Marsh

51:00-Steve Smith Audio

52:30-Marnus & Lyon

54:00-Lone Survivor

 

 

 

 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Wow, Daddy, Hey Mitch, thanks for thanks.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
On the podcast with us. Mate, appreciate it. Brother, thanks congratulations.
Made incredible series against the Indians always but maybe you
personally fantastic.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it was a huge summer. I mean, the crowds,
the Bibles on screens, but to have the Indians here
haven't been for a long time, so it was We
knew it was a big series, and I mean after
the first test we sort of I mean we had
to sort of regroup and then from there it was.
It was awesome to be part of and very busy

(01:10):
but a great series.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's that they fight hard. I think the thing I
love about the Australian Indian Test Series is that both
sides fight hard. Yeah, there's a little bit of shit
in the series, which is that's what sports about. You know.
It brings like the very Kally yeah, shoulder charge. It's
great because it brings it just adds another layer of
emotion in the series for the crowd as well.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. I think the certainly Australia India rivalry, if you like,
it's it's grown every time we've played them, and we
hadn't won the trophy for ten years and they won
the last two times they come to Australia. You mentioned
Virat's very He's an imposing figure and the crowd just
love him over there. I love him in Australia and
their fans travel so well. So and then a five

(01:54):
Test series, the sort of the hype leading into it
was so big, and then for them to win the
first Test, I think it just grew on the back
of that and being five tests, and you know, you
get broadcasts in India, broadcasts in Australia, so everything was
just heightened and it wasn't lost on us. But by
the end of it it was just it was great

(02:14):
to be able to take the trophy back and then
just just sort of reflect on that as a group
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Is bigger than Australia England at the moment the rivalry.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I've heard that a bit lately and I think now
that it's five tests, it's you could almost argue it's
on par. I don't think it's it's bigger. I think
because the history of the Ashes it goes so far back.
I still think I still think as a player anyway,
I still think the Ashes sits just above. But certainly
it's grown you on you and when you have the

(02:44):
likes if you're out Rawa, all the big names and
just how much cricket is loved in India, it's hard
to argue that it's not going to keep getting bigger
and bigger. And if not, if it's not already on par,
it could go past in time to come.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Internally, do you lads like as a squad, are you
guys more pumped to play India or England?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think no matter the series where it's an Ashes
a white ball series, you still love beating England and everything.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, as Australian. You just want a fun things right,
So you know it'd be a great question to ask
again next in twelve months time, because we've got the
Ashes next summer, so we've gone Indian series into Ashes series.
It could be a different looking group for us perhaps,
but I still think I still think the Ashes just

(03:32):
sits just a step above from my players perspective anyway.
Do you think that's.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Because like a lot of the Aussie boys go over
and play in the IPL. Is that because you guys
probably have better personal relationships with the Indian cricketers as
opposed to the England once, so when you come up
against England like you genuinely probably don't like them as much.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's a good question. I think. I think the IPL
itself has developed those relationships, whether they the Indian players
all the English because there's so many the Poms come
and play as well. I played with Phil Salt last
year and still chat to him now. I've only played
one season of IPL with him, so I think I
think cricket as a whole has whether it's taken away
some of the leagle, but I think it's developed those

(04:16):
relationships with the players, so you still well you could
go one step further. You still want to beat your
mate or your best mate, almost more so than someone
you don't know, right, So yeah, true, you may not
be the same leagle, but you still want to beat
the guys just as bad. So yeah, I don't know
if that the relationships change. I played with very out

(04:36):
at IPL years ago and he's so different off field
to on field. So I still got a great relationship
with him even though I don't play in the same
team anymore. But he still wants to beat Australia more
than anything. Likewise, I still wanted to.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
They good sledges out in the Test, just gorn.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Do they sledge you quite heavily?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, apparently I bowled too slow, So I'm back on
a little fellow a couple of times. Yeah, but a
lot of it's in Hindi, so we got usbond Quada
can can translate. Yeah, so he can speak it and
understand it. So there's a few times where he knew
what they were going to bowl or what they were
talking about. So yeah, a lot of the time you

(05:17):
don't really know what they're saying unless you you know,
you know Hindi. But at times that there's a little
bit of niagle, yeah, and for us, so there's not
too many smart guys in our team.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Do you like so like in sport oftentimes you can fight.
You know, you're out there competing, you're fighting hard, you
walk off and everything melts away the change Do you
socialize with Indian players or just in general mid series
she's just a mid mid test match these dates.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, there's a little bit of interaction. I mean that
the Brisbane tester was a fever of rain, so it's
quite a small players area that changes are quite close together.
The corrals are pretty small, so you probably that was
probably one of the games where was more interaction because
there's so much time off the field. They didn't hang
around too long after test matches, so Sydney they were
gone before before our families had left the change room.

(06:08):
So yeah, it's just a I feel like there's a
bit of a more an interaction period after games of
the IPL, whereas this series it was a bit different
to if we're playing England or New Zealand. Who in
New Zealand you can't get him out of the change
rooms because all your beer and eating all your foods.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, he is like, yeah, apologies to as just a
slight joke there, guys really don't mean it. He's a
question fair because IPL is such a big thing and
so important to a kruct's career. You know, as we know,
you know, a sporting career is only it's a short
one if you're out there. Let's imagine they're in a

(06:48):
Test match and you have a really spiteful encounter with
a very colleague on the film. Could that impact your
IPL career.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It's a good question. It's been joked about before. Whether
that's true or not, I'm not sure it could do.
And we had the auction day three of the first
Test match, which was pretty unusual. So yeah, I mean
there's a I think there's a fair bit more made
in the media or off the field about how players
might be too nice because you know, you're looking for

(07:17):
an IPL contract or something like that, and yeah, we
might not sledge like that in ten to fifteen years ago,
but you're still trying to win just as bad. So yeah,
I know there's the whole IPL factor comes into it.
But I'd argue that you know that auction was day
three of the first Test. After that, I wouldn't. I
would argue that our the way we approached the rest
of the series didn't change whether he had a contract

(07:39):
or not.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Has there ever been a like a scenario where someone
just has become like public enemy number one in India
and they haven't sort of like been picked up to
go over the IPL or that's never been the case,
or they've been picked up cheap because no one really
wanted them because they thought the fans would hte it.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So while there was a little bit of spite between
Australia Indian and there was there was usually that some
of the Australian players weren't picked up the course of it.
Whether that be true or not, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I went through like a nine
year period into so I didn't pay a whole lot
of attention to it. Yeah, I mean there's a lot
of a lot of Austrailing coaches have been over foreign coaches.
There's still a lot of strains go. I guess that
could be a factor. At the time, it was also
you know, teams are trying to build a I guess

(08:27):
they've got a big selection of players. I mean there
was fifteen hundred players when in the auction this year
and they got cut down to five hundred, so there's
still only ten teams with you know, you've got eight
overseas players each each squad, so people are going to
miss out. So yeah, I mean you could argue either way.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
So the players will sit together, like the day or
the night of the auction when it happens, do you
guys sit together? I mean, what now? How does it feel.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
This? Well? I had a buid word in go, so
this year what we did was, I don't know if
we'll bol on a bat in Perth, but we finished
the day's player and it'd already before we've gotten the
team beans, and there's a few guys that are pretty
keen to follow it whow how they're going or for
how other guys are going. I was pretty lucky. I
was early on in the auction, so I didn't have
to I I didn't want to watch it, and Alisa

(09:14):
was watching it back home, so she was giving me updates,
and then I just ended up being on. I end
up turning on in my room and all of a sudden,
it's two hours gone. I'm still sitting in the seat
looking at watching other people go in the auction. So
it can change pretty quickly with how how do you
want to follow what you see?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's not like because I always pictured the auction like
did they sort of it's like a it's like a
horse auction, right, They almost parade you around when there's
just so that's so there's people that go and they're
standing there while people are bidding on them.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Player wise, Yeah, so the players what a stupid question.
I mean I thought that would be.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
A funny thing to do, Like, wouldn't that be a
fun night? You go and you sort of get I
mean it'd be horrible. You go for like you know
what I mean, like a real cheap price. What is
the kind of what is the average price? Like, what's
what's what are people going for these days?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
So you put your when you nominate for the auction,
you put those reserve prices. So your highest reserve is
to crawl, which is I don't know whatever that is
in two craw and in Indian rapeats is maybe just
shy for in a grand maybe Australian something like that.
I could be lying. That's so that's a top reserve.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So you said that for yourself.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, so you get you get four tiers of reserve. Yeah,
so you can go and you can go and real
low and hope that there's teams that want you and
go real high, or you go, I'll go in the
top bracket and run my mark, I guess. And then
all the teams sit at the auction, So it's not
like the Draft in America or anything like that. We
you know, your top prospects come and sit in. All
the team owners are there. They've got their teams behind them,

(10:50):
all their strategists and all the rest with the paddles.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And and you.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Know, your photo comes up with your IPL stats and
you go, right, he's a reserve price. Does anyone want
to make a bid? And then there's a bit of
cat and mouse and some guys get absolute motters, some
guys might get passed in and you get a second
crack at the end. If you get passed in, the
list of passing players goes back to the teams and
go right, I want to see you have a crack

(11:16):
at him again.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
And you come in again and what's the highest that
you've seen?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
What's like of an Aussie, like one of your teammates
or yourself, but like, what what is the highest bid
that you've seen that, You're like, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
This year we had Richard Pant and Tresi with the
two highest which were I think twenty seven twenty eight Crawl,
which is like near on five six.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Million, so they and how many games do you play
in it?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Your fourteen round games plus finals, so you could play
seventeen games.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Incredible, isn't it? It's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's no wonder you just moved into a new.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
We just took fifteen minutes just buttering you up to
hit you with that boom tish mate, young Sam Sam
Constance come, oh my god. Probably not since you know,
Shane Warn has almost been such so much, so many
headlines around a young guy coming into a Test match
and you know, after that debut test pretty amazing, it was.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It was great to see and yeah, for a nineteen
year old, he's full of confidence. He's just he was
able to be himself. It's not an arrogance. It's just
a really comfortable in his own skin, very outgoing, wants
to come and say hell hello to you. If you're
meet him the first time or you met him thirty
seconds ago. He's just a lovely kid. And then yeah,
it just came out and played his own way.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And it's amazing, Mitch because it's as big as it gets.
You know, it's a boxing day test match. He's about
to go out there on debut against India. It's absolutely huge.
How was he What was he like in the change
rooms as he was about to walk out?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, all right, So we were in the warm up
on boxing hasn't even been presented his cap yet, and
Nathan Lin and I were warming up with him and
he's like, oh, boys, when you reckon, I'll get nervous.
It feels like a great game. Really.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You hate to hear that too, Like you don't want.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
To hear that, David.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I didn't say boo for the whole day. I was
crapping my pants and these kids like it's a great
game kicking it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, that's like that's like for the in the female
world when the girls like I can just eat whatever
I want and I never put weight on.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's like the equivalent for that.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's just nothing like that actually in my in my world,
it is. Well, Gordy tell Us says the same thing
when State of Origin Cameron Smith stayed. He's looked across
at Cameron Smith was far from a household named he'd
almost just started playing NRL, you know, handful of games
and he's looking over and this will be really nervous
and something happened and whoever's going to be the goalkicker

(13:50):
I think must have had a twinge in warm up
and do you want a goal kick? Anyway? Gordon's going
new walked over and said, oh he Philly and Philly
all right, yeah, I'm good as guy. And he said, mate,
you do a goalkicking day? He said yeah, He said
how do you feel about it? He said, yeah, you'll
kick no problem at all and just went out there
and just just did it.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Similar to that Ryan Pappenhausen and Zix I remember like
when he when he first started playing first grade, he
come off the bench and played through the middle and
things like that, and Camera Smith was still playing at
this stage, and Smith he heard his Smithy had heard
his ac joined or heard his drawing any one of
these games. Perhaps may have played just under ten games,
and it was like, oh, mate, you're.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Happy to goalkick in that?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
And he was like yeah, he's sweet, like just had
so much confidence and then he was trying to put
his hand like there was times when perhaps you know,
there was experienced players out there like Munster and droome
Us and he'd be wanting to take the field goal
and stuff like that, like just trying to push to
take on these big moments. Some people just have like
so much confidence coming.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Out of him like that. That was like was seeing
that was amazing? What so taught me through? What was
the reaction? All the mood you know, when you blokes
were all watching and the change in there and all
of a sudden he's like ramp doing all these trick
shots for fours and sixes. What what were you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, it was it was quite something. It was I
think for the first over that he started doing it,
it was like what is going on here? What's his
kid doing? To Basically everyone was on board apart from
one player, and everyone was like this is awesome, Like
he's taking it on and his kids, he's got he's
either got nothing between the years or he's got big.
There's only one bloke and Steve Smith was stressing I'm

(15:28):
not hating. It was just like this is bizarre. And
then it's been quite a bit made of it, quite
an older team and I remember coming down he goes, No,
I'm past it, tricks done, It's past me. I'm too
old for this. Yeah, you're probably right. I think I'm
there too.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Wow, it was just incredible to see, like when he
came back into the like, what what was the reaction
of the boys when he walked when he walked back in,
or what was the reaction because oftentimes, you know, it's funny.
I remember once going it was a Sheffield child game.
We're on an end of your trip? Were blind drunk?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Not in eight? And it was New South Wales versus
Victoria And honestly there was about twenty people in the
whole stadium. We're there at the mcg anyway. Shane Lee
being he's got out there made he's got about seventy
two and as he's coming off and we stood near
that near the tunne where he's walking up the change room.
I've gone well, played being and he turned and just
went and smashed like smash smashed his seat right near me,

(16:24):
And I thought myself, seventy two, I mean that's pretty good.
I thought he'd be pretty happy. So how was seeing
when he came in he got sixty?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Was it? He got sixty? In pretty quick time and
they'd just taken down woman that where you all the
rest of us couldn't hit on pretty much. I don't
think he was in the changer when he got out,
but I've been a few tests gone now he's been
pretty similar. I think when he got out in the
first or second innings in Sydney in a similar sort
of way, being really aggressive and sort of taking it on.

(16:53):
He was pretty unhappy with the shot and that gave
himself a few uppercuts. But I think sixty in his
first test and MC he was like ninety three thousand
people there was the man. So I wasn't in at
that time. I can't imagine would have give himself a
upper card. He would have been disappointed getting out, but
to play the way.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Did Yeah, is he like that, like if you're going
to go over to beer, like off field, off the paddick.
Obviously he's like a bit of a you know, he's confident.
You got a bit of a swagger on the field.
But is he like that off the field as well?
Or is he is he completely different?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Blow?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's pretty much him. He was. He was out there
signing wollographs and he knows who the camera is yeah,
very confident. Yeah, but no that that was him in
a nutshell which he played the cricket these two tests away.
He's off the field just very confident, very very comfortable
in his own skin. He I think he had Oscar
Piastre and the change rooms on my day three and
walk straight up to him for his hand mate, how

(17:45):
are you? Yeah? Woll okay, how's my mate Danny Ricardo going?
He doesn't race anymore?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Mate? The Coali bump and there's no virts got there
and right with a young blake here. He probably thinks
he's getting a little bit ahead of him self and
he gave him the bump to sort him out. How
was How was Sam? You know what? What sort of
advice did you blokes give him? Or was it just
water for ducks back?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
It seemed like water for Duck's back. He the fact
that he not bit back. He sort of stood his
ground and said something of you're at just as like, well,
this is a nine year old kid. He's not phased
by Virat who's a god in India, by coming and
giving him a bump.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
I can't remember what he said exactly, but it was
bloody hilarious. Probably shouldn't throw Hi under the bus.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
I feel free.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
But even like you said before, that last knock on
that final day in Sydney, where you know you're chasing,
you're chasing the school, and I imagine you can go
out there and chasing it like a you know, smallish margin.
I can imagine sometimes you're treading on eag shells. It's
very easy to play nervous, and particularly all the hype
everything around him, which we would think the pressure on

(18:56):
his shoulders. And he walked down there and he just
started marching down the wicket. I'm just going this bloke
is just fantastic. He just set the tone for that day.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
You're spot on and again play with biker whuns there
and just take on the game. I think that's whether
he was instructed to do that from when he came
into the squad or not. He's taken it upon himself to,
like you say, not just get into a you know,
try and find your way into Test cricket. He's sort
of taking the game on, taking the big names on
and perhaps maybe went a little bit too far with

(19:26):
the shot he got out on him, but the fact
that he got us off to a quick start on
a tricky wicket chasing. I think in one way or
another that sort of calms a group down as well.
When you've got a nine year old kid and just
taking it on and playing freely.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, this is the thing, right, Like I had people
who have never really watched cricket being like, how good
is this test? Like just because of the headlines that
sort of come out, like obviously Colely bumping this nine
year old kid and then this kid going out there
on his debut and just like doing all these trick
shots against like one of the best teams in the world.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It's did you just guys see it?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
The same thing where it was like this test has
sort of become bigger than any test we've been apart,
like just it was just in every headline to the paper.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, well we had seventy thousand people there on day five.
It hasn't happened for a long time. I remember it
used to be like a gold coin donation on day five.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oftentimes they just they throw the gates open just so yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Because no one would want to go to Day five.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Normally fall on a Monday, and I mean we had
it was the Christmas New Year break, right, but yeah,
day five. Normally it's not as enticing unless that it's
a really exciting game or and the Indian fans travel
so well, so to have seventy thousand, I think we
had three hundred and fifty thousand people.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
For the Test match, which wow, that's incredible. You said
the word tricky before tricky wicket. He's going to need
some good people around him. It's going to be a
tricky next twelve months for him, you know, to suddenly
be a kid that nine percent of the population hadn't
heard of. Suddenly he's a star, international star now, yeah,

(21:00):
he's it can be. It can be tricky, Mitch, Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Can be, and and he's got so much to learn
and he's got a long time to do that. He's
nineteen years of age. Yeah, yeah, I think I started it.
He sent me a fat maybe if you're really old.
He sent me a photo after the Sydney Test and
it was at Dremoine Oval. I think I must have
been watching a Lisa play and I felt like I
look young in that fat and he's about this high.
And now he's in the change of him. So there's

(21:25):
a few there's been a few instances now I'm getting
made to feel old, but yeah, you're right. We're going
to Sri Lanka. He wouldn't have played there before, very
different conditions. It's going to test this game and see
where he's at. And then the next Test tour after that,
well we've got the Test Final in England, which he
wouldn't I don't think he's played in England, and then
we go to the West Didneys for three tests, so

(21:45):
you know, three next tours for him, which conditions he
probably wouldn't have experienced yet.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
English tabloids.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, there's that. I mean there's only one test, so
they're not in it because they're not they have to
finished sixth.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Sweet you said before twenty eleven your first Test tests,
some big names, they'd let you know you're ponting Clark hussy.
How you said for how nervous we walk into that
change room for the first time.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah. I was lucky that I debd in the white
ball game the year before. So I remember going on
my first tour for Australiers to India in about September
in twenty ten, so when on someone got injured, I
got called into the Test squad. Hadn't been India before.
I hadn't met half these blokes before, and they had
already got over there because I was a replacement and

(22:33):
rocked up. And remember the first day I was downstairs
waiting to get on the basket training and I had
to get some from a bag and I was hunched
over and get knocked over by something Ricky ponting crap,
How are youngster from then? I think I was very
lucky that I had a fair few new South Wales
guys in the group to make me feel somewhat more

(22:55):
comfortable around the group. But it was like chalk and
cheese with Sam. I remember chatting to Uzy about it.
In a test when we David, we just like stand
in the corner, be quiet, wait for a spot to
open up in the change room and then we'll sit
down and only speak when spoken to. And there's this
young kid just like getting around everyone.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And what the dynamic of a test like, well, talk
about the one in twenty eleven when you're in between tests.
He's having big nights like as a squad, are you
going out and like a bit of team bonding on
the piss or is it very much is like he
is locked in for the whole sort of duration of
the test.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Now we're a pretty flexible group. There's a lot of golf.
I mean, it changes from it depends what the gap
in the tests are. So we had a pretty big
gap between Perth and Adelaide, so everyone got to go
home for a couple of nights. You sort of the
lead up tends to be about three days, so you
have roughly again depending on how big the gap is,

(23:48):
but you normally have that. So we work backwards from
day one. Day before is always optional, so I don't
think I've been to an optional session in fifteen years.
And then day before that's a main session. So that's
as structured as we get, so everyone will turn up there.
Nets are structured, there's a bit of fielding, maybe getting
the gym a bit, and it's that's as structured as
our team gets. And the day before that's individuals. So

(24:10):
everything will be facilitated. If you want to hit for
three hours, you can hit for three hours, bowl x
amount of overs, if you want a field, if you
want to go in the gym, everything's facilitated, but up
to your individual prep. Outside of that, you know, in
terms of the drinking side of it, I don't think
I had to. Well, I think bowling wise, that stuff hurts.
So we tend to pick and choose our times. Yeah, ok,

(24:32):
and mostly make up in the times were we got
off or at the end of a series and there's
no there's no rules around it. We're all all big
boys or old enough to make decisions. So that's where
it falls on you if you go too hard or.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Let's what we had Dave Warner on the podcast last year,
and he the way he described it, it was like
he was having like a bottle of what was he
drinking gin or something before before some massive games in that.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, it seems he seems.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kind of flexible in his own Obviously it works for
different people. But that's why I thought that is everyone
doing that or is bowling because you're you know, you're
probably doing a lot more running those boys, like can
you you have to be a bit more professional with it.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Again, we're all you're old enough to make your own Decisionyah.
So yeah, bowling hurts a bit, so I would hate
to do that hungover or not that I have, I've
I can choose my times a bit more, so, you know,
if the boys are gone having a few beers and
it's back to back tests. I'll have a zero or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, I was just recently this to a podcast on
the great Keith Miller. Of course probably you know, alongside
Chaine Warner is probably the most charismatic cricketers of all time.
And when he was war hero and as revered as
he was in Australia, in England he was he was
a guide. So he was just out there all the time.
And they said very often he'd just be out on

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the town and goes straight from wherever he was nightclubs
or other places and just up at the Test match.
And Bradman hated him for doing. They didn't get along,
very different personality. So Bradman one day at heading Lee
and Leeds made him field long on and then made
him go down the other end of the field like anyway.
Someone eventually, one of the poems gave him a bike

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so he would fill long on then ride to the
other the right to the other end and back. They
one of the one of the greatest characters of all time.
And you know, like in those days or even you
talk about guys like Doug Walters in the seventies and
that just on the source every night and getting out there.
But very very different these days yourself, which like superstitions.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Not really, I don't think it's a superstition, but and
I don't know why I do it, but because I've
been asked the fair a few times, I, for whatever reason,
they get to the end of my mark, I always
turn left. I don't know why. Training It doesn't matter really,
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
He right handed, left handed?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Left always left.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, it's funny how your brain works for that. Sometimes. Yeah,
you get that some one lude turns one side of
the field. You just feel more balanced.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Still, we're all strange, aren't we.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
We are, well some strange. I'm talking about Jack like
on devoot, which where you go back right and you're
on your mark, You've got the ball in the left hand,
you're about to run in like what was like how nervous.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Were I can't even tell you how nervous? I reckon.
So Mum Alisa was there as well, and I reckon
that we were very lucky all I was lucky that
we bowled first, so they didn't have time to really
sit there all day and think about it, and straight
out there. We had a debut with Daby Warner and
James Pattinson, so three of us on debut and the

(27:43):
way Elisa describes it was hardly said boot before the game,
probably didn't say anything during that first session. Came out
to say hello at lunch and barely said a word.
Then it wasn't until like the end of day one
where I kind of okay. But I think it was
like that first of all, first ball, I was just
happy to h.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, where to go?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Talk us through that first ball were you can't remember.
I know it hit the wickets, so that's a good start.
I can't remember the first but I remember the first
wicket was was Brendan McCallum.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Oh yeah, it's good, good scout first up.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, So I was happy to get one on debut.
We won the Test match, so it was our first
team song for the three debut times. We had a
new coach, some new staff, so it was it. It
was a cool week, you know the key Wes beat
us the next week, but that first the first week
was was was awesome to be part of.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, what are there some insights with your favorite Like, firstly,
do you love touring? Do you like you know the
touring aspect of it, because I mean it is demanding
and being away from your loved ones. But do you
enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. I still enjoy it. I
think some of the novelties this is very first wall problems.
Don't get me wrong, the whole flying and living out
of hotels and suitcases. The novelties worn off a bit.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Sometimes you wish there was a class above the first time.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We're actually talking about a lead athlete team.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, like I say, first of all problems, like, we're
very well looked after. That I'll start there. It's very rarely,
is it not a good hotel? Or yes, we fly
business class. I'll be at the front end of Morrow. Yes,
So in that regard we're very well looked after. But
I've played three formats for what near on fifteen years,

(29:27):
so the whole living out of suitcases does get a
bit dull sometimes, But yeah, to all, life can be great.
I mean some of the I feel like England's almost
the best one because there's no flying. You're on a
bus between between cities and stuff. You're on a bus,
so it's cards in the back or guys want to
do their own thing. So in that regard being around

(29:48):
the group's great. There's a big golf and contingent at
the moment. It's a lot of golf being played. So
as a group, I think we're in such a sweet spot.
Even though we're a bit older, that's still it's still
great to be a part of. And I still love
playing cricket with him.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Run us through the socialite Like you're saying, there's a
there's a card group, there's a golf group. Who's the
what cards.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Are you playing?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
And who's sort of in that group?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
He's like five hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Or it was a bit of five hundred. It's thirty
one going on at a minute.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
What's that one?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
It was brought in by a couple of Victorians. So
you get three cards and you've got to make you
the high score with the same suit. You don't want
to be last. Basically it goes around the table. Yeah right,
it's a.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Very simple game for simple minded cricketers hence Victorians.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah. A lot is purely a joke.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Who's the best golfer in the because like obviously it
has to be a batsman.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Right, Uh, there's a few good golfers. There's a bit
of a bit on the table too, but Davy was
very good. He was off about four three or four.
Maxi's off one, and there's a bunch of us like
between five and ten, and then we try and get
as many involved as we can. We had Mitch marsh
and I were designated golf commissioners, so it started through

(31:04):
COVID and ended up getting my hands on well a
lot of time in hotels, so I found a found
a replica master's jacket and logo, so I've got that
and played for the jacket. So we'd set up tournaments
and different sort of style formats and play for the
jacket and got more and more people involved. If you

(31:24):
didn't have a handicap, we'd sort of designate if you're
a professional athlete in a bat and ball sport, you
can't be more than aid staff. We sort of extended
to like dirty maybe, but try to get everyone involved
and have golf days and just get out of hotels
and have some fun.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I've never seen like I've never seen someone who's not
a golfer hit a ball like a cricketer like me
and Jack played with Chris Lynn and lind Sanity dead set.
I don't know how we could even see the ball
as well on this day. It had a big night
the night before, and we just just continued on and
he was dead set cracking it. It would have been

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going three hundred easy and everyone's just going wow. And
then he's going then in true like fashion, just full
of confidence.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
You go.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
That one's on the top of the gabba.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Are you amazed me? Sometimes with cricketers, how you know
you're in your left bowler right b or vice versa.
Are you you are left golfer?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah? On one of those traditional ones lefty left. So
Josh Hazward's one he bowls right, that's left, plays golf left.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You're right because ten ten Dooker, he's a left bowler,
isn't he? Ten Dooker left bowler? Right? Because I know
Lara plays right when he plays golf.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
He can play both.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Cany oh, Kenny, Yeah, there's a few. Yeah, left right,
because he's the amazing one. To Michael Hussey, Michael Hussey
is a righty, but he loved Allan Border growing up,
so actually taught himself to play left. Oh wow, that's amazing.
It's an interesting cookbar Not.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Really so, is that?

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Hang on?

Speaker 4 (32:58):
We got we can turn Jack up and down.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
As well, just on, just on Lenny from before. I
don't think you remember you that day. Also, it was
for a charity event and there was lots of press
around and there might have been a golf buggy with
a reporter and a cameraman rock up to him right
after he had a big hit, and he proceeded to
probably give one of the worst of the whole golf
day I've I've ever heard of my life.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
How many takes you and he did?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, he did seven different They were like, we just
want to can you just tell us about the day.
He ended up doing seven different takes. And then by
the end, the girl just didn't even I don't even
think she ended up. It didn't go to air. It
was Channel seven and to promote the Mick Fanning golf
charity Day. Sweet and it was so bad, so bad
he could barely talk and he's got yeah, and then
she just ended up brushing it completely.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Your favorite city to visit, firstly, you know, socially, you
know on tour, but socially of the off the pitch.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
She's a good question. I mean, England's very easy to
go to isn't it. It's very much like home. You
can get out, you can go to restaurants, you can
walk around. They got lovely golf courses, so yeah, London's
great for that, and get outside of London and play
Sunningdale and things like that.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Favorite cricket city, like your favorite pitch.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I'll give you two. I think playing at Lords is
very special. Of early on I was always running drinks
there and then managed to get a few games there.
And it's for cricket as anyway. It's like the home
and cricket right so and at times it's very proper,
not always because sometimes you run a blokeout and they spray.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh yeah, that's right, and all the oldies in the
clubhouse hurling abuse.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You is you're pretty well. It's pretty funny. That is good.
That's a cool place to play. But I think for me,
Adelaide was awesome, just the they always get a huge
crowd there. I think they do it so well. The
cricket's great. The wicket is probably the best in the country.
It's in recent years it's always been the pink Ball Test,
so they do the whole week so well. The facilities

(35:00):
are great, the people are great. I've always enjoyed that
Test match, so they're probably too that stand out to me.
There's probably a few more, but off the top of
my head.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
The question I was gonna ask, I mean a question,
I was gonna ask your favorite guy to bowl too.
I don't ask you the mats at the end of
the day, remember warning Shane Warren saying he'd love to
bowlder Darryl Callmon every single day. It was his bunny,
But yourself like, who's the batsman like that? You've got
amazing respectful that your bowld to that, Just go mate.
This guy is just something special.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
The one that stands out probably a Abdville is he
was someone he doesn't play anymore, but he read the
game so well. He was an unbelievable player. When I
Stuth Africa's best. I actually got the chance to play
with him in the IPL and was lucky enough to
see him first hand from the non strikers. And I
remember one game vividly. It was Dale Stain was bowling

(35:53):
and he was an unbelievable ball or two and we're
in a bit of strife and ab was smacking him
everywhere and he's I know what he going to bowl.
He's he's not trusting his Yorkus, so he's going to
bowl length and if he goes whir, I'm going to
step inside and hit him six over the leg side.
If he does this, I'm going to step in step
the leg and hit him over that way bowl exactly
what he thought he'd six. Wow, he goes Now he's
going to do this because he hit him that one.

(36:14):
He did that. This bloke's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
These were batsmen. Do they have genuinely have time to
react like two bowls or do they have to almost
rely on their instincts and like what they think is
going to come because you only get a split second, right.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I'm talking about a bowler.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I just been like yeah, yea, yeah. I'd imagine these
best in the world. They sort of know what they're
doing all the time, Right, There'll be an element of
like that ab sort of reading the field and going
I think he's going to do this, so premeditating to
a degree, But at the same time they're just so good.
That's why they're the best, because they can react so quickly.
They can get the reading off the field and yeah,

(36:55):
I'm sure there's an element of premeditation, particularly in T twenty.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
When you are batting, what do you what do you
look for? What's your what's your focus?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Not eating the head?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah it's a pretty good one. I still get anything.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Do you hate it?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Do you hate going out batting?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Like?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Just as a bowler you're just like, oh no, I
don't I please don't put me.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Oh you know what, it's one of the best incentives
for bowlers having to bat is the long year bat
unless you have to bowl. Yeah, yeah, it's not that
we hate it. I much more enjoy batting in red
bull cricket than white ball cricket because when I have
to bat in white ball cricket, it's almost come out
and trying well, try and hit boundaries from the get go,

(37:38):
and I can't do that anymore, not than I over could.
But whereas in Test cricket you've got a bit more time,
you tend to be batting with a batter, have a
bit of fun with it. So I certainly enjoy red ball.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Do you do you bounce fast bowlers? Because in the
seventies and eighties, almost a gentleman's agreement fast bowlers didn't bounce.
Fast bowlders is that gone? Now that is gone.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It still remains at training, so you never bounce the
other balls at training, but it's gone now. At cricket
it's I'm going to get you before you get me.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well, I imagine if you're in the in the eighties
with the West Indies, you certainly wouldn't be bouncing them
because you know now it was going to come back
five attack, like Michael holding coops one of the greatest
fast bowls of all time. They said he could have
been a four hundred meter runner at the Olympics. Just
beautiful mover. When he first come as a young guy,
his run up was almost from the site screen and

(38:25):
the he's called him whispering death. Just come in and
like he's just beautiful movement. And they said that the
run in was just like mesmerizing. He has he stepped
towards crease and the guy who had almost the best
record against him was Kim Hughes and it might have
been Allen Boarder. One of them said to Kim Hughes,
I watch your secret and he says, I don't watch
the run up. He said as he goes back to

(38:47):
the site screen, he said, I put my head down
and counter five, then put it up at the end,
he said, otherwise you just get transfixed with it. Yeah,
is that an interesting story?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
That one actually was interesting. I was just I should
have put my head down when you were telling Yeah, sorry,
I was about to turn your mic off. Have you
got an all time favorite teammate?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
We're pretty close unit the bowlers. Yeah. Again, we're very lucky.
So the four of us are all New South Wales.
Josh pat and I pretty much grew up together. I
played first time I met Josh we were both both
trialing for the under seventies New South Wales team. He
was country, I was city. He was a big dog.
Everyone knew about Josh Hazel with this big kid from
the country, terrorized people and then made the team together

(39:36):
and have played in every team since. So got a
great bond with Joshy Pats a little bit younger but
same same deal. Sort of grew up together with the
three of us through New South Wales cricket and as
the oldest and sort of went from act to South
Australia to New South Wales because he didn't want to
face us. Yeah, and then the four of us played
so much cricket for probably played together for twelve years maybe,

(40:00):
so the four of us spent a lot of time
away from cricket together, obviously touring together as well, And
I'd say, yeah, between the four of us, that's pretty
all right.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Now you can only save one of them, Like they're
in a lifecraft's going down. You only have one life
jacket picked between one of those three if you like,
you have to otherwise they all go down.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, a part of me wants to say Josh, but
I'd have to pick Pat because he's got too much
cash and he's got all the contact. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, she's yells himself well done, he's a good Now
it's time. It's a segment we call tough tour. That's
the tough questions. Now, of course you're married to Lisa Hurley.
She's a great Australian cricketer in her own right. She's
Queensland and how state of origin?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Night, I'm glad you asked this. So, yes, she was
born in Queensland.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
So she remains a Queensland for three days of the year.
Yeah right, yeah, So she's played all the sports for
New South Wales captain New South Wales. I think they
moved to New South Wales when she's about four or five,
but for three days of the year is in my own.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
During the State of Origin series as a coreens Lander,
does there IQ go down eighty points? I've got to
be real, yeah, uncle, sorry?

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Are you guys? Are you? Are you a big league
like you guys?

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Are your league family? A?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Probably not as much as I used to be. Do
you have a team? Yeah? So I was. I was
big on St George, so I haven't jumped ship. Probably
just don't watch as much as I used to.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Don't know what?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Who does? Who does what? Like Saint George?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Respectfully, Saint George.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
They're not the best game to watch on the weekend anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Sir George la Warreck. By the way to Coops. Just
be careful there, mate, Yeah, that's careful. What do you mean? Yeah, no, no,
Sir George la Warre. Mate, don't forget that.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
What do they not like it?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
If year?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Well, there's you know, cub's got to be respectful, you know,
Sir George la Warre. It's a merged club.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
But no one says I've offended I've offended Coueenslanders. I've
affected offended victorians. I've affected offended kiwiz. I don't want
to offend the region.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So that's a niche thing you that you don't want
to offend. You've offended a country and two other states.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Fellow, still working city, Okay, sorry, back to tough talk
Elics Perry Icon of Cricket. She told me that your wife,
A Lissa, is a champion sledger behind the stumps. Have
you ever won an argument?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I'm still waiting to win one. I think. Yeah, it's
I'm married a wiki keepers, so I knew what I
was in for. Yeah, it's best to take my medicine.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, yeah, I know that's about. Yeah. What do you
argue over? Generally toilet seeds being up and down.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
And pretty good with that. What do we argue about?
Probably me spending too much time cutting the grass?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, really don't.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Argue too much, and I spend enough time together.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
There's grass you can't. Did she ever sledge you of
your bowling? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, yeah, she sledged my bowling a little bit. She
I think she saves it all from a golf game.
So yeah, right, she a good golfer, better than me.
I hear you.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Guys every year they're telling them in a fox force
to have have a have a day, have a tournament.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
No, we play for a trophy. This is way too
competitive to bloody athletes. Who Yeah, so we play for
an annual trophy, so it goes you round. So there's
no said amount around the golf. But every time we
do play together, you play for points. So end of
on news, you've we've made the rule that the losers

(43:30):
to present to the winner and I've only been presented
the traphy once.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah right, yea, yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
That doesn't that's pretty maulating.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
What about like the festive season, right when you get
out of there bit of backyard cricket, do you hit
it with a bit of the short stuff?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
You see? My backyard cricket is Boxing day Test match of.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Course, of course, but do you play Do you ever
get out there and just sort of roll the arm
over it?

Speaker 5 (43:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
We we So one of my best mates runs an
indoor center and greet academy. So back years ago we
used to both have nets at the same time. He'd
feedballs or throw balls to both of us and we
used to try and hit them at each other. So
we got banned from training together and I did. I
did bowl to her once. I was coming back from

(44:14):
a back stressy so I was in rehab bowling stage
and I reckon I was at the SCG. She said, oh,
I'll come and face them. So I was bowling a
few tour off the short run and she wasn't to
worry about the pace. It was more of the bounce
in the release and then two competitives start to go back.
I was going to get in trouble for bowling too much.

(44:36):
So yeah, it hasn't been a lot of training against
one another. We'll go to the gym and stuff. But
cricket wise, that got cut off a while ago.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Mate, what's the mood in the house? Right? If you
get a five fer and around the same time she's
having a tough run drops a couple of catchers, gets dark,
what's the or vice versa, what's the mood like?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I'd say we are both pretty grumpy when things aren't
going well. I'd say we're pretty level when it's going well.
We've both been out on ninety nine, which was one
to talk about. That was interesting. Yeah, I'd say She's
put it this way. If I win it golf, I
have to give it's I've got to wait like at

(45:21):
least a beer and a half before I start giving
a crap about it because she's a bad loser.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Really, what's that? What's the emotion when you get it
on ninety nine? Because it's a fast bowler. Ninety nine's
a hell of a cheap. Were you filthy or did
you just yeah? I suppose it was.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
It was in India, so it would have been cool
to get one in India, But it was a long
time ago now when I used to be able to
bat got out for ninety nine. I think Steve Smith
got out for ninety six the same game, So I
think part of me was like, I got to ninety nine,
that's cool. Part of me was like.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Flu stories As I said, this a fire that burns
in me is going to release a little bit of
the pressure.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I remember once they took Fox Sports took me Channel
nine actually, when I was still there, they took me
to pre ashes camp about access as far as the
medium would just shown some of the stuff we did
with the Rugby League at the time when players were
coming off or being substituted. I'd ask him a question
on the sideline, and you know, they were nine were
after that sort of access anyway, Stuey McGill mcguilla he

(46:28):
stood up and said, mate, I'm telling you now, I
don't care if I got scored one hundred and fifty.
If you stuck a microphone in front of it in
front of my mouth and I'm coming off. I job you,
And I said mcguilla, I've seen you Bat. You wouldn't
get one hundred and fifty. Shout out. Now you're bro
Brandon make champion high jumper Conwalth Games gold, just mister

(46:51):
metal at Paris. Okay, the younger brother thing is there.
Although you're wishing all the very best, is there part
of you that was anxious, harboring a bit of anxiety
as far as if he'd got a gold medal he
might be cast a wee shadow on your success, thus
being relieved when he didn't get a medal.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
No, not relief. No, I've loved watching him. I think
one thing. I'll go on a bit away from the
question here, but I've loved the fact that I get
great perspective from him as an individual athlete. And I'm
very lucky that I've been in a team sport the
whole time. I've got. If I don't do well, likely
with someone another one of the other ten blugs is

(47:32):
going to do something well. Whereas individual year it can
be a lonely road. Sometimes it's a tough gig. You
can be stuck in your own own head a few times.
So no, I think it was. It was awesome to
see him win that gold medal in the Calm Games.
There's been times where I remember watching him. We're in COVID,
it might have been a soko somewhere, and I never

(47:56):
thought I'd be standing on a field in Dhaka in
Bangladesh in the middle of a training session with the
iPad watching him jump in and have the whole team
in between fielding jewels come and watch to see how
he's going. So that was pretty cool. And then this
most recent one, having the family back home and watching
watching him on the big screen handled himself well yeah,

(48:16):
so yeah, very proud of him.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, because I wish my younger brother all the yeah
that he ever cast a shadow on my success.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
You and your brother have a great relationship, I will,
I will say as well all of us. Really, I've
only ever played team sport. It must be so tough.
I got so much admiration for like a sport like
boxing in particular, where it's just you training every day.
It must be so hard because some days you get
into even teensport training and you're going, oh, I do
not want to be here, but you kind of feed

(48:46):
off everyone else's imagine swimming.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Swimming, you just got your head in the bucket.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
You can't even put headphones on and listen to music.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
He's watching that black line that's.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yesterday.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I know this.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
We do have a bit of a sort of a
expose and emotional connection to Ustaky because Jack, every year
he plays, him and his mates play a boxing day
test down at the local park and hardboard and everyone
gets given a like a jersey and they get there,
they take on a persona a player.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
And every year Jack is you are you that grumpy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And you don't look dissimilar. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Every year.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
I just remember then I've got the top. So like
we'd buy your polo, your white polo from Low's. I've
had mine probably for six seven years now, and I've
had stark on it for seven years, just across the back.
And like we put our own sponsorship on my team's names.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
We'll just turn it down.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Seriously, we usually only get.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
To two like we let him do quota apologies about that. Now,
let's let's sort of let's let's lift it out of
the gutter for a second here, now, Fletcher HEINDI a
little bit of audio here. They interviewed your cricketers reasonably,
and we discovered some some things about poor old Mitch Marsh.

(50:07):
Does Mitch Marsh have a small appendage?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yes? Is it true?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
You have the smallest penis in the current cricket cricket squad?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yes? Is that true?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I love the fact he owns it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I mean he's not a ligitectfest so it's pretty hard
to lie.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Is that? Is that?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Obviously if FLETCHENHEINDI knew that, it is that somehow public knowledge?
Like how is that such public knowledge?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
How does that get out? It's funny all the things
he's done done in cricket, all the success he said
when he when he walks to the to the crease,
now he's in the field, they flash to him. All
I can think is small penis. Anyways, some things you
just need to keep to yourself. Now, Mitch. When the players,

(50:59):
you know, celebrate out of having a few beers after
a series win, which which Cricket was most likely to
get a guitar and entertain the boys.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Good question probably is that Mitch Well, he's one of
the good ones.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Is there a player that's not good on the guitar?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I know what you're alluding to.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Well, let's have a listen, because, in my opinion, tickets
are on sales soon. Steve Smith has a really unique
musical talents.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Did I see you.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Dance around your dress? And I've seen you painful?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
That the small tim was he going through something?

Speaker 3 (51:55):
That's the clearest I've ever heard it, because normally when
it starts being played the whole rooms in.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Does he does that get played in team meetings and
stuff and he hates it?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Does he really regret it? I think now the fact
that he's taken up golf and I haven't seen him
with the guitar lately, he probably says enough.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Was that Covid? Was that like Covid he tought himself
or something?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I feel I don't know if it's the same minor
if it was the second one, but there was one
while he's at the IPL Yeah, And I don't know
if that's the one he posted with yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
What he's self taught. It's a bad advertise for the
home I'll.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Tell you what.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
What's worse, Like Steve Smith singing or some of Dave
Warner's dancing videos. I love getting on Dave's Instagram and
just watching all of his when he went to his
real TikTok period.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, he's on fire with quick fire questions best mate
the Australian side. You've said it before player if you're
sitting on a long haul flight.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah right, I can finish that question. Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Why does everyone always say that about manus?

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I don't think he knows how just to sit there
quietly or like watch a movie on a plane, or
he has to have that interaction. So thankfully he's found
Steven Smith, so we just try to put those two
together now on flights. But yeah, he just has to
there's so much cricket going on. He's found golf as well,
but he's always on. I'd love to have his energy sometimes,
but at the same time, I can't do.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That small doses cordial like he can't have like if.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
He loves his coffee, so he's got his own coffee
bean roasting company. But so he just must be full
of cafe.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, God, a player, And I've told me this about
the Red League players. We always joke it players who
the player who's batting overs relationship was? And she don't answer.
It makes the line there's something here. Self explained to
player who looks most like a Garbo Travis Head. Of
course she's I like him, Travis Head. He looks like

(53:52):
a real character player, the best player to have a
night out with. He'd be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Travis said, Yeah, let's go with Trevor because he he's
bloody funny without the beer and him let alone when
you put ten guinnesson.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, he's is that when Marnus comes into his own Like,
is Marnus good? Because those kind of people with those like,
you know, real out their personalities sort of when it's
when it's a Monday, you're like, stay away from me.
But come Friday night, is Marnus? Does everyone love being
around him? I'm still not okay perfect.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Because when when ninety interviewed him, it was I was
just going, man, this is bizarre. Something's just not right
with that bloke. Play I've got here to play. Who
shouldn't drink? Well, probably Marnus go to that Now where's Shandy?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Is he as top is because he's got that South
African background? Who's that that?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Oh yeah, yes, oh Shandy, he's got the lag of tops.
Now to finish with Mitch, and we appreciate, really appreciate
your time. There's a thing we do here called lone Survivor.
Now this is to establish who you believe is Australia's
greatest quicker. So it's on elimination. Whatever we go through,
I throw some names that you you pick an would
you rather?

Speaker 4 (54:55):
He'll give you two names? And it just keeps going through.
Played it horrible. I just thought I'd just back out.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
It's economy of words, mate. David Byrne or Ian Healy
Boonie Boonie or Jeff Thompson, Tom Jeff Thompson or glenm
grath pige Okay, Glenn mac grath, Adam Gilchrist pige Glen McGrath,
Dave Warner pige. That was quick, wasn't it. Glenm grath,

(55:26):
Mark wore pigete. I see Junior in at Fox Boards sometimes. Man,
he's a sour dude.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
He's a champion, Okay, glenm grath, Steve.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
War a child ah go on Tager.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, I love that on the West Indies with him
and Curtly Imbros and he just stands his ground.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
So he came on and Ashes Tour in nineteen as
like our mentor in the Ashes bit, and I hadn't
really spent much time with him. I grew up love
watching him and I didn't play a whole lot of
that to her. So I played golf with Targan Mitch
Marsh for four or five rounds. He was bloody great.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
He made his awesome. We got there once. We did
a net session once Newcastle with the Shields and he's
pretty straightforward with his opinions on cricketers. I said, what's
say I asked you once about Allan Donald and yeah,
I just Paul. I don't want to offend out South

(56:26):
African listeners. Uh, Steve wore Alan Border.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Oh, now you're getting tough, Steve, Steve wore.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Ricky Ponting getting real tough.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Now there's a lot of great crickets.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Gee whiz Ah.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Punter or Dennis Lilly.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
You know, I'd love to know Dennis Moore, but I
don't know him much at all, So I want to
stay with Punter.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Shane Warn Wow punter, Donald Bradman, Wow, Wow there, Ricky
Ponting he wins Loan survived.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It's a hot take.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
That is over Donald, Sir, Donald Bradman, that's a scoop.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
You know what, if I had more time and you
weren't going to take the piss out of me, I'd
share the Donald Bradman Baybruce story. But I want to know.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I want you to tell because I want to I
want to hear Stark his reaction to it.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Come on, tell him.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I'm just going to make sure I got the I
don't know whether it was Arthur Morris or Stem McCay,
but one of the players. Anyway, what happened was Bradman's
Invincibles become. Babe Ruth was a massive Bradman fan. So
after they went through England Clean Sweet and went through
the Bay, Bruce sent a letter telegram to Donald Bradman
inviting the Australian cricket side to stop through his guests

(57:44):
of the New York Yankees. So they went there and
of course a fair crowd turned up to watch now
to see the great Donald Bradman, and Babe Ruth asked
him to step step into the cage and never hit
and donal as Donald said, no, I'd rather not just
it anyway. One of the players, now I don't know
what was Stean McKay, but might or Arthur Morris, I'm
not sure one of the players. People I'm sure will
correct me on this. But he went in and the

(58:06):
Yankees picture through the first one bang home run, second one,
bang home run, and Babyruce said, how'd you do that?
And he said, they just keep throwing me full tosses.
True story, Yeah, true story.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'd love for someone to validate it, because Dad's told
us that since I reckon we were four years old,
and no, I've never heard it from another source. I'd
love if anyone out there who has actually heard.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
That before please let us know.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I'm sure they will, or if he was lying, let
it get his touch about that as well.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I'm sure they will. Good story, Good luck with the
tortist flank. Really appreciate your time, brother, Thank you, Thank you, guys,