#38 | Jarchy - Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
I saw him doing it with your telling, well, Jackett
wanted to get turned up because we keep Jack's levels down.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah right, yeah, you're probably work.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
He's like that.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
He's like a hermit that lives in the basement. It's like,
we only put the addic down.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Pope, it's the game.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, it's a gimp in the suit. We only unzip
Stephen Lennard.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
It rubs on the skin or else it gets the
hose again, precious, put in the mouse.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What you touch, you fucking touch on Bill Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
We're good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We leave all that in.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah as well, we can.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Level at it, and we should leave the stuff that
you were saying before you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Were saying it two kids, so we could probably.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Leave most of it and we'll just be I know,
we've gone. You've got an image to look after judge reckon.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's an image we're looking after.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Just be careful, guys, fits and whip if I take offense.
That's a joke. Excuse me here, just coughing away.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Honestly, man, I've been crooked for the last week in
a minute, so I feel you just got drop by something.
You feeling a lot better now.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You haven't been well, have you?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And then this preak just made me do a one kilometer.
You ever done that? Ship? No fucking don't do it?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Ye, holy fucking I don't, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It changed my I was. I was worried about my
state coming into this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, well I'm glad that you've brought your sickness into
our house.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, no, I'm good now I just did a one kilometer.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, that's hard work. When we get through certain notes,
you know, we're better endurance.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
We got you've got Dad's got the ski in the garage?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
He goes it?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Mate, he rips into it.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Actually, no, you've got ten seconds off, one minute off, Yeah,
ten second that's good.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
You're in a salt bike, man, you love the assault bike.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
What is your salt bike?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's the bloody Yeah, that one that is fucking hard yacker.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, the old shet out there, the House of blood,
sweat and tears, actually tears.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Anyway. Introduction for you, Jack Edward Archdale aka Jarchie as
a lot of people might know you as h Put
from the We Men World podcast Brief Time on Radio,
which we'll get to. Yeah, but now exciting for you, Jarchie.
You're actually the first guest who's been in the new set.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I wanted to raise that, gentlemen. And it looks bloody good.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, it's warm, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it's nice. It's warm, it's cozy. I've got red
behind me. Oasis. It's like it's own little oasis, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's we wanted to create. How would you just covered
a place where people felt safe?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I feel safe, do you know what I mean? I
feel I feel safe minus the company within the rad Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Just like we want to make it like we're just
sitting in a lounge room with friends and family. So
if you want to take your shirt off, that sounds
a bit like going to an island and then going
to not that sort of island.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Pretty Lord of the Flies.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Pretty quickly we were.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Talking about another island. I think he was referring to
he doesn't we.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Don't like him, and he died in prisons.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, allisedly, Yeah, poor fella.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Look we were actually we didn't be here, damn it.
Some stuff on the walls. We want to put some
stuff up. You got any advice maybe for the set made.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
To be honest with you, I feel like you've done
pretty well loving this painting over here gives a good
little warm vibe, velvet curtains, the paneling. What about one
of the boys, the.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Suns somewhere, Well, that's us there, that's in the picture
with red.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, that's a great point.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Maybe a bottle of merlo or something.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Now we're cooking with some gas. Yeah, I was expecting whiskey.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Disappointed a lot of it's it's pretty early. It's not
even it's just ticked over to midday exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I was going to say, when I get the bus
into the city sometimes at ten thirty to have lunch
at twelve. I had to admit it, but I just
put those little bottles of odri in her pocket, maybe
slam a few down, arrived nice and hot.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I've always said there's nothing better than bus drinking.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
No bust drinking is it's actually a very enjoying because
the bus is it's a sad place to be. But
when you had alcohol on your bus, yeah, it makes
it fun.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, I don't enjoy uber beers. Something about an uber
beer makes me uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I feel like, because it's easy to get in trouble. Yeah,
you know, he might, he might look in the rear
view and you're drilling. I had a can a Guinness
in a big Guinness error at the moment.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
They're big cans, right, big cans, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well average cans yeah, speak right yeah. And I was
drilling a Guinness and he's like you drinking the mate
and I'm like, no, no, mate, not at all at
the feet and then had it and he's like you're
you're a fucking disgrace. Yeah, and I felt shame.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, they do. It's funny, uber And it's funny
when you go to places sometimes is it bigger population,
it's less personal. Uber's like walking down the street in
a little country town. A bus is like walking down
the street in New York City, exactly right. So you
can get away with I haven't said that. I'll tell

(05:29):
you judge I was sitting on the bus once and
this bloke says to me, you look one of those
John's blakes. And I went, oh, really, and I said
who are they? And he goes, oh, it makes a
couple of funk with Well, we said a few other
things too.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Your half right, I remember you come home because the
last person that someone would expect, like they would never
expect to see dad on the bus.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Drilling fucking mini bottles of vodka.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah right, because again and there's no way he's that
big a degenerate.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
But he is.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Man, I'll tell you what you remember. You guys might
know chur Mike Munroe, Yeah, great, play respect to journa.
I am. I'm sitting on the on the bus blind
and then Mike Munroe gets on and he's blind as well,
and I said, he goes, what do you doing? Many
I said, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mike?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It was just like a reunion, was like, this is
your life to invite all these rallies on. He had
two models of them, Uh champagning hen good, look, look
he was going to a celebration. It looks like he
was just bustaking exactly a few exactly, you know, a
lot of feedback people wanted for the room was and
I thought it was very clever doing like lego models

(06:42):
of ourselves, like some sort of game. When you said
doing and then there was now said lego models, I
thought it was going to something else said hey son, Hey.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, why don't we Have you ever had an
encounter with Matthew before? It was just the first time meeting.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, Maddie, we actually worked together. So to keep in mind,
I was a shit kicker I worked at. My first
job out of UNI was in commercial I started commercial
radio at Bathist UNI, and I had to do a
two month internship in order to graduate, and unpaid internship,
and they offered me a job there at today ifm
as an account coordinator for after two weeks. Ok you beauty,

(07:26):
I've got a job out of UNI. And you were
on the Grill team at the time, so we frequented
the same building. We would have met him passing a
few times. I actually have a bit of a funny
yarn that I remember. Do you remember that barbershop that
was right outside? Yes, yep, Turkish fella correct, yep. I
was sitting there getting a haircut once and they loved

(07:48):
you and you were walking out. I think you're knocked
off and you were walking out and he goes, Maddy money, mate,
I got some traditional fucking grub for you, this food,
and I just I remember what I've remember this vividly
for since then. And you go to your mate. He goes, yeah, brother,
have some and you go, I'm all right. He goes.

(08:09):
You go, I'm just eating. I'm just eating, but I'm
all good. He goes, no, I have some, and you go, okay,
thanks mate. You took one. He goes, go on, and
you go because you're obviously taking it forgets take over
the family. Yeah, times are tough. Yeah, you go and
you go. He goes, go mate, have a bite.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You go right.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He goes, good, isn't it? You go, yeah, man, that's good.
He goes take another. You go, I'm all right, No,
this is good mate. He goes take another. You go, well,
thanks mate, watching my old thing. And you walked out
with two handfuls of this fucking traditional mart I saw
you're walking down.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The other was He was a character. I think of
his name for the of the podcast. He was he
had a lot of intensity, Yeah, a lot of intentions,
a lot of intensity used to be funny in the
days with a grill team, so Triple M Boys, you'd
beat downstairs a trip lamb, which would be like, you know,
five out of ten. Then you go upstairs to Kyle
and Jackie A and it was like a party going on,

(09:09):
you know, now ten out of ten. Unfortunately, when they left,
you walk up and I was like Elvin's graveyard. It
was great, morbid and sad.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Sad.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Times have changed pretty fucking quickly too.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He's met at the Ricky Stewart lunch last week. Was
it official official meeting? Yeah, yeah, we were over there,
Me and Josh were sitting on the same table.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yes, and we were.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
How impressed were we when Dad and Joey went up
and did a mate a bit of a standing.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
He was half right, Yeah, correct, there was one party
that was cracking jokes, I think a little better than
the other.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
And I didn't realize Joey was that funny.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
H We returned up Fletch goes the Lunchie goes. Because
I didn't know Judge when I was there, Like when
I first accepted, I didn't know that joe was going
to be there alone. Both us on stage, so we're
both little apprehensive. We touch base before me and we said, listen,
let's look it up like a couple of performing chimpion zoos.
Lit's get up, you know. We said, yeah, So anyway,

(10:11):
Fletcher goes, you're right, and I said, job's fine. When
he has a couple of beers, he said, I just
told me he's off the drink. I said, were the ship, Yeah,
it was, there was some There was a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
One liner said, me and you looked at each other. Jos,
that didn't go down.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, just as we're recombination. She was just setting it
up for me.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, he was out.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, exactly right, mate. That was That was a good lunch.
I enjoyed that. It was when you were up there though,
I was like, fucking if you had you wouldn't you
need a button knife? And atention? Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, there was a fair bit of attention sensing through it.
You didn't want to sit next to him at once.
Sat was obviously Fletch was MC and Maddie Nable like
Fletcher and then Nays were supposed to be interviewing you guys,
and I remember watching you when you us get up there, Dad,
you and Joeys so to sitting next to try in
the mill. You tried to push Knaves to sit next
to Joey and then Names just kind of pushed you

(11:07):
back in and then you sort of are forced to
sit next to it.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It takes a lot to make Fletch nervous and Naves apprehensive,
but they were beforehand.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Were that.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, they're apprehensive. But it's funny because they both turned
up for different they're doing the interviewing. They didn't speak
to each other. So Fletcher's asking questions like your blokes,
all right, tell us about mad mondays and that, and
and then Naves at the other end of the spectrum
going fellows still about your childhood. Who's going to win this?
We got the air conditioner on the heater here.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Exactly right. Yeah too, it's oil and water with those
two kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
You're a League fan, But Judge, I am a League fan.
Who do you go for? Chokes mane Wow, I wouldn't
suspected that from you because that's what every fucking blokes
because you're quite from the country, working class.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
But this is the thing, mate, what team does any
country kid go for? You know what I mean. Everyone goes, oh,
they're fucking. When I was eight years old and going
for the roosters, I didn't know what the eastern suburbs
of Sydney was, correct, I had no idea about any
of that. It's either I think country kids either go
for teams based on their color, the colors the animal
or who their or a relative goes from.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Or true roosters. You would have had a few on
the farm, right.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, correct, man, the brothers.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Good look at my well, was your old man like
a rooster?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
He go for he's a Raiders fan. My old girl
goes for the Chuks. My uncle played Under nine as
East or something. So mom mum went for the Chalks, yes,
back in the seventies. So I just went with what
mum went for.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, really funny now like you go and see
country kids and the extra dimension now is the individual
they'll go for you. Suddenly, you know Tigers. When they
went the camp and Benji was in, there was a huge,
huge number of Tigers fans and now of course the
emergence of Nathan and this dynasty. Every kid you asked
you to go for for the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
One hundred But that's a great point one hundred percent.
It's interesting as well when I was gone because I
played union union grand up and thanks for the interview.
I better duck off. This has been good boys. But
it was it was strong. It was it was it
was a strong code. Yeah. Now it's you know, no

(13:21):
offense to the boys. It's essentially decimated. Yeah, and league
league rains supreme. We didn't fuck with AFL at all
and we never have. It just wasn't in our culture.
It was union the league and they were sort in
their connect and now it's just I think it's purely
rugby league. Now kids don't even know about rugby union.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, you see in school boys it's quite still big
in union. That's probably like almost the biggest part of union.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
They want to make the Australian school boys and its that,
but most of the school boy kids just end up
getting signed to they all go to league clubs after
that kid. Yes, actual pathway set up.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, the ruguy large and our real clubs are so
confident that the kids won't switch. They send their best
kids to Scots College and Joey, isn't it now? Yeah,
just get a good each will just pick up. That's issue.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
A lot of them are yeah, a lot of them
actually just made that up. I actually don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well and Crichton they were discussed.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, they diss went to King King right, yeah, rich schools.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So yeah, you're dead right, Mane.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I just thought about what about you too? Blokes? How
do you blokes?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Me grinder?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, I set my age range up about.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Love be.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right down my avenue?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Where did we make we met lad?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, we did a shoot for ko yeah, Vulk, you're
dead right.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I could not have been more hungover. Yeah that day,
and we had to like we're going down to Woollongong.
It was you and yeah and we're going down to
Wollongong to you know, roll with Vulcan and I go
you beauty, and I just I just had it made
a mistake. I'm just going to carry aw on the
on the Thursday night, going to do a martial arts

(15:05):
session with Australia's greatest. When you hungover at my age.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
As well, not ideal, No, and especially some of the
stuff we were doing. Remember we had to do like
everyone had to pick a song and to do an
entrance song. Remember that.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
She was. At my point we were just going to
still kick the sheets thinking about that.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I made I still cringe with myself, just going
what were you thinking? Like we all picked a song
and then you go out in front of volt and
he was just even. He was all he would just
like clap you in and go yeah, like it was.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'll give you a tip right now, and you would
have learned up on it. You don't let the advertising
people or the creative ever come up with an idea, mate, Yeah,
that's right. It's like they've been living under a rock.
They're not Seinfeld. You have no idea. You just get
there and sometimes I'll turn up a shoots and They've
got this whole written things were going to do no
way do that?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean, but muddy. The difference is you're a
stage in your career where that is much more are
plausible an option.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's called legendary status. I get your boys. Sorry I forgot.
Sometimes you forget.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, you know, I'm just going to I'll be here
to remind you the whole way through the podding.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's taken me twelve months. There's been some idy to
get the legendary.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, but and I don't say it as forward as him,
But if there's an idea, I'll on the sly talk
to someone I trust, go that's got to change, because
I cannot do that. Like that is just so outside
my comfort zone. It's not even funny.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I'm much better at pushing back now, like because a
lot of the time, especially with brands, they'll give you
these ideas and they go, I reckon, that'll be good.
I'm like, if I fucking do that, people are going
to teart strips off me. So you've got to be yeah,
you've got to kind of have a bit of nut
and just be able to push back and say no.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's right. Well, I mean it's like, you know, you're
a country boy and you get someone from let's say
point Piper who sits there, who's a creative and they
get this. He'll think this is going to be funny,
and you look and go, yeah, if I go back
to the country after doing that, I'm really beating up.
So even once we can turn up, like sometimes you
get there and okay, what you got to go for

(17:09):
and you've got to go for this, and you got
to stand and say good a. It tastes great, and
you look down at the thing. It's six hours. How
hard can it be? So I used to sit there
for the six hours and go yeah, now I go just.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Get fifty three.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm getting too old for this shit, as Danny Glovers said.
So I turn up and say, right, shoot, six hours. Boys,
tell you what forty five minutes. And it's amazing when
you're telling you've got to be somewhere in forty five minutes.
They get it done.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'll get it done. Yeah, yeah, give them an inch
and they'll take them ale. Yeah, yeah, it's funny, like
that's funny. I guess the whole point of that is
the bloke from Point Piper coming up with that thing.
They're coming up maybe like a country thing from the
perspective of a bloke they grew up in Point Piper. Correct,
And then you're going that ain't it?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well? What they'll do is and how many times do
you see this? I see? It bugs me when you
see people who don't know about it, about sport, particularly
working class sports, and they decide to do a TV
show a movie about it, and a person who plays
let's say a ragbul league player, This bloody ell mate,
I'm thinking about going down to the pub and having
six beers and I might have a pie after it.

(18:16):
What do you reckon blue? Yeah, I've said, you know,
we don't actually talk like yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Some do definitely, but on average. But if you've watched
Footy Legends, which have you ever seen that, Dad was
a commentator in that. So it's the one where Arndeau
is the half back. Yeah, and they play in like
a Nines tournament.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Some of the actors that they got for it, they can't.
They even make looking like a put down, like scoring
a try. They even make it look awkward. I was
watunate the other day and I was actor like literally, but.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
But credit to them like that is the hardest thing
about sports movies is getting particularly physical sports like Raby
League and the NFL, getting that part of it right.
But exchanges, natural exchanges on the street don't have to
be yeah bloody ell mate, just knocked off and had
thirty schooners, you know, like people like just talk normally.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'll tell you what it's akin to. It's akin to
when ossies go overseas say they might have grown up
in bond I like, and then they get over to
fucking Europe or America and somethings like, you know, you
go there, the old Bloody Dog and Moon when the
girls weld.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Copper. You can't understand me?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Warring Warring?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, where you go?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, I'm just gonna go down to Manhattan. They were
left on the third when you go to Hill's Kitchen
across And.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So where in the country where you from? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So I'm from a small I grew up in a
small town called Walker, which is it's near Tamworth, about
fifty minutes from Tamworth.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Go to Tamworth Music Festival, the Country Music Festival.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And is that a rhetorical question?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah it wasn't I have to answer it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah mate, Yeah I love it. We grew up going
to it and now it's yeah, I love it. It's
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It's good. It's the equivalent if you're saying, you know
where you're from. And I'll call a roy ever seen
ever seen in the ocean?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Not really, because he doesn't have to go.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's a choice.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
It going to happens once a year, bro.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's a choice to gee.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Sorry mate, So lovely, so lovely, das We're so angry. Sorry,
I don't like I saw you.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Just curl them up and getting in a protective fetal
position there.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
To get my belt off.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No doubt you. No, we did.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
We didn't star one night star casino and I said,
I'll introduce you. You make a smart ass comment and
I'll stand up like I'm furious and start to take
my belt. But yeah, yeah, and people are actually going,
oh my god, is this like is this real happening?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, but he didn't take We're going to do it
like I've been over my nap. We'll put your pants
down and I'll actually spank you in front of like
and there was all the fop imagine. But we didn't
take the pants off. He still spanked me with the belt.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh god, you did it. Yeah, you committed to that.
We did it.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah yeah, but it was all for the next like
five minute after because we were so serious about it,
and I pretended like I was actually hurt.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'll tell it's most of it. Could have got an direction.
People know that's a joke.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I think they got it. I'm really sure they got it.
Was did you get hammered in the country like when
you started doing because you started making your name, by
doing like skits and things on TikTok. Were you getting
hammered by your mates in the country or were they
quite accepting there, because imagine it'd be tough, mate.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I think there's a bit of a dichotomy to it.
So it's when I start. I was working on a
sheep station when I started, so I basically just started
making videos and it was just day to day life
working on a station, and and I'd try and make
them funny and that was all good. That was fine.
And then, you know, I only learned this relatively recently,

(21:56):
Like I've had mates. When we started, you know, I
built this sort of social media or whatever. And then
we decided to do a podcast. And then I'd heard
through the grapevine just a few people who are friends
of mine who were just fucking tearing strips off me.
Oh really, Oh fuck you just being like, oh, this
preck thing so you can do like podcasts or whatever.
They were just and I found that pretty interesting. But

(22:18):
then I just sort of we were speaking briefly about
this beforehand before we went on air. It's just something
you need to accept when you get into this game.
People are always gonna you'll have detractors, and that comes
with it, That comes with the territory, especially if you're
putting yourself out there, and especially in a market like Australia,
where I think there is an element of tall Poppy

(22:39):
syndrome that runs pretty rampant. I would argue, I think
there's a lot of people out there who are so
they want to see you win, and there's an equal
amount that would love to see you.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I think the tall poppy thing runs universal, even the
most well meaning people in the world who just want
success for you. Is that Look at the Taylor Swist situation. Yeah,
like she's got to the point now of this fan
that all of a sudden you go out the other
side and suddenly you've got a certain amount of population
that is starting to grow with this hate and this

(23:10):
vitriol fairly towards us.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, Yeah, big time, big time, And it seems to
be a natural occurrence, and I think just it's something
that you just need to mate. It's, you know what,
A lot of it. The good thing about it, a
lot of it's behind your back.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, so you're not here right as long as it's
not christ Yeah, saying what goes around comes around.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Steps, just going why are you coming yourself to sleep
every night? So that's good, but we yeah, it's an interest.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Have you found Have you found that at all with
getting hammered behind my bag?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah? Well for lack of a bit of a time. Yeah, yeah,
you know doing the radio show, you're doing good, you're
making good moves. Have you found any of that any
sort of comments?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Oh yeah, but you know what I found.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Look, I've had to put up with it when I
was playing footy, even more so than now, So I've
dealt with it for a while. To be right now,
putting myself out there in like media and stuff is
actually ten times less painful than when I'd go out
on a set like and play and then get hammered
because you get blamed for if you go in as

(24:21):
a halfback in a side where in my case, I
would go in a back up if Munster was heard
or Jerome Hughes was the you know, the two best
players in the comp at the time, and then I'd
just get hammered. If we lost, it was instantly because
he was in there and those we didn't have our
so I was getting made. I would just always and
I used to read it quite a bit, and I
used to actually take it for content when we do

(24:42):
the Family podcast and I'd read out my worst sledge
of the week. Yeah yeah, like Eminem, get on top
of them before they can say nasty shit about Except
what happened was they kept coming even more because then
they wanted to be on the podcast, So I thought
I was clever. Hey, I'll get on top of it before. No,
it came like a soon army after that, and I
was getting hammered on the street and helling out. Yeah,

(25:04):
which was fun.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
It sounds like it only ceds that level.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
They got one. One thing they're experts at is finding
a sweet spot. Yeah, that's what they're very good, very
very good. I mean, it's a lot of this stuff
is it's foreign to me because I don't do social
media and I go through life blissfully unaware. Like the
worst thing I have when you're growing up is basically
people writing things in the back of toilet doors, like
you here at eleven. See that's well, what do it

(25:33):
used to do? Sometimes if you're playing bad, people would
write a letter to the editor. Yeah, fucking let's get
some time in there. You must be cranky. And I
had this one bloke that always call me and just
let you like them, just let you know I got
your back if you turned a pace three of them
on the Newcastle hild of Blokes wrote a pretty nasty
thing about you. So every time that bloke would ring
and I'd see his number one game, Oh here we go.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
That's on another one.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, ignorance is blisz it is. It's a good way
to deal with it. I found that at the start
of it, Like when I was when I first started
doing the videos. It would, you know, you get a
hundred good comments and one bad one, and the bad
one would stick with you and then I was like,
what the fuck am I doing? It would hurt my feelings,
I'll be like Jesus. And then I just the more
that I did it, the more that I became accustomed

(26:17):
to that being something that is going to be unavoidable.
I couldn't give a fuck anymore. Yeah, you know the
way I think about it, like because I used to
click into their profile. Sometimes sometimes I go back to
and forth with them and I'm enjoying that. But I
click into the profile and I look at the blanke.
I'd be like, I wouldn't have a beer with this.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, can I say you told me so?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Excuse me that piece that word wasn't acceptible to medieval times.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You come in here and use that foul now in
our house. My gorgeous mother's upstairs brother.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh so sorry.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Her boyfriend Carlos is a good look and rest not wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
She needed some comment, But I would I would look
in their profiles like I wouldn't even have to be
here with this blake, and I go funk. I'd let
that opinion fuck my day up. I'm like, that's that's
a strange way to operate that someone that I don't
even know or care about, I'm going to let them
dictate how I feel abo that. So I just I
just stopped it.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That's what We've got to be very careful, because what
happens if if you read one comment out of one
hundred and that one sticks with you, why you've got
to give it up is the fact that what you'll
be trying to do all the time is impressed the
one percent and you'll lose the ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Couldn't agree more.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's put so well, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I remember there was I'm trying to remember who exactly
it was. It was an actor or like an artist,
and they come out and they said I would get
all these comments on posts, and I got one really
negative one time, and I bit back and sprayed him.
And this lady who comments on all my stuff for years,
been to every one of your shows, commented, I comment

(28:04):
on all your stuff message all the time, and I've
never ever so it was that sorry Jack, Jack says, yead.
It was guy Sebastian and he said, I come in
on all your stuff and he and she was like,
you've never applied to me once, and he was like, fuck,
that's so true. Like I folk, I gave the time
of day to someone who hammered me. Yet there's a

(28:26):
lady who's supported me for years and I've never applied
to us.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Mate, that's dead right.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, it's but the breeze over the good ship, you do, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
A lot of it, a lot of most of it's positive.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So it's sort of the bra Streisen rule is this
is what happens is and by it commenting, you're shining
a light on it. Now, Barbara streisand had this amazing house.
I think that was right in Malibu. It might have
been a huge one, and the paparazzi went and got
a photo. So she took the paparazzi to court as
a consequence means and means of people. She shone the

(28:58):
light on it, and then.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Just you did, right, wasn't it? Her mansion was on
some fucking website where there was a million mansions, and
it was before they were taking photos of satellites with
satellite something like that, and she said, I don't want
my fucking house in this website. No one would have
known it was her house until she said, that's mine.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Shine a light on.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, I've heard.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Se on you did you see that video of Dad
singing the other day?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Just breathtaking, lots of good feedback till it happened. I
imagined kind to you know. I went, I just came
from a concert seeing the great Deon Warwick, right, of course,
de On Warwick who walk on like you're look you're laughing.
She sung walk on By and Heartbreaker which he wrote

(29:49):
for it, some of the greatest songs of all time.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And then I went and watched it and I came
home and I was just inspired, thinking, man, have I
wasted my life? You know, I'm being a television star
and a regular the icon there should have been a singer.
And I walked in Cooper's struggling away and I thought,
you know what I give this TikTok finger?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Can I give you that you made the right ties
for Footye? What? No?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
TV?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
You rushed TV? Can I ask you? I've had a
theory on country people for a while.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Cousins are attractive.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, so their siblings your parents?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Right? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I wanted to say, the names that come out of
the country, I always find very common, strong names. You
coming to the city, did you find everyone in the
city they strive to have their kids' names as unique
and like one of one.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Do you always think that.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yes, I do think that I reckon. You know what's
his good name? Fucking John?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, Keith, William, Keith, Greg Gary, Gary Cooper Jack Jack.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
You know some of these actors who name their kids
and make me go god, you know this school, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Brother, walk correct, that's and they think, oh, you know
I name this kid this sick unique name. No one's
got it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
There's a fucking reason no one's got it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, this is twinkle Dust.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, Elon Musk's kid like b part server.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's a fucking formula.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, Michael Jackson's kid blanket, Yeah, I get so angry.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah. Yeah. Look, there are things in this world that, right,
they'll rile me up to like an unnecessary level, and
that's one of them I think about all the time.
And then you know, even when me and Mimi say
we're getting hitched in a few weeks and then we're like,
let's just let's crack on with Rugrats, like we're ready
to get you ready to go? So yeah, and some
which means.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
For the first time, serious man, that's going to be fun,
I think, I hope. So let me know how it goes.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I will FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, there's a reason why there's one rooster in
thirty hens. Don't do it, brother, don't do it upstairs
and in here, don't do it. Just trust me.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Thanks of the warm words and even Steph she was
sort of she was dropping some girls names. You know,
it's a girl. She was like, what about this? What
about that? I was done. It seems a weird thing
to me that people have stopped calling their dogs dog names,
and they starting to call their kids. There's dogs called
Gary and kids kids called Rover. Yeah, we fucking swapped.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's your point. Yeah the real Yeah, Gary
and Keith Bill, they're actually the dogs and names do
these days.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Graham. I heard a bloke calling his dog Graham the
other day his doctor coffee's going Graham Graham, which I
thought was the funniest fucking thing over there.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Cat called Phil.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, yeah, filmed his sprints.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Cross the road at the this is this is quite
incredible story.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Is Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
You told her Ricky Stewart lunch. So I'm pumped already.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Sorry, we're in it.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
We will act like we haven't heard it too.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I actually a cat in the mid eighties. People watching
Chili called Phil, and I had a I wasn't actually
the fastest. My foot speed, my turner speed, we knew. Yeah,
So I went across to got a pair of spikes,
went across the Tech College and was doing sprints. Anyway,
mcat and Phil and I pretty close. Animals love me,

(33:29):
ye anyway, So I started doing sprints. One day Phil
just crossed the road, come across and would it would
it was? We'd race together. That's fucking bizarre cat, I know,
and made we do a sprint walk back. He'd walk
back with me and we'd sprint, and as you know
how quick cats are. When I could beat Phil and you,

(33:51):
I was ready for the n RL. Did you actually
about you, Brett Mullins Like I mean Phil, I just
got a big there, make it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, now we've been teasing this a little bit, Judgy.
I want to get to your days of two days
selling in the sales. Yeah, you spoke about your saw
dad having a haircut.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Why sales?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's what I want to ask a country boy coming
to the big smoke.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Mate. It was. It was literally just because they offered
me a job, Okay, So I fell into it. I
was doing commercial radio. I'd had aspirations to get on air.
I didn't know the path. I fucking you could smell
the gum leaves on me when I got in. Never
had sushi, you know, fucking never had sushi, Never had sushi.
So I got it when I was about twenty two,
and I just mate, I was doing an internship and

(34:35):
they offered me a job. And Dad was always like, mate,
if you can get work out of UNI, like your
beauty and I just I saw the job and I said,
fucking awesome. And I think one of the main things
I regret. I remember speaking a producer. Remember Jamie Angel.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Mate, that was Dad's boss.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Remember I used to do a Jamie Angel character all
the time. I was so basically he was a cocaine
sniffing mess smoking lunatic. Used to go all the time.
Oh mate, listen, I don't think the audience like that.
You know, talked about me. I said, the audience love it, and.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
You don't know who you are, mate. He So I
was interested in getting into the the on air side
of things when it was producing whatever. I just wanted
to wezem my way in. But I also had this
inherent country fucking feeling in me that they'd give me
this job. I need to see this out before I
felt like I was betraying them, which in hindsight was

(35:31):
a silly way to feel. That comes with age, I
suppose and experience. So I remember speaking to Jamie Angel
at one of these drinks. He was from Yvreel and
so I sort of bonded with him. Fuck, I'm from
wolcome mate, like we're from the same traps. And I
said I'm actually interested in, you know, maybe your side
of the fence. And he said, mate, come and come
and have a chat to me and we'll figure it out.

(35:51):
And then I was a bit conflicted. I was thinking,
am I betraying these guys who have given me a job? Like?
Should I go and chat to him? I'm not sure?
So I never really went down and yarned it. And
I was at the acres and I saw him for
the first.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Time and recently fucking years ago.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
This was when I was still working at CFM. Jamie,
how are you going?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
You guys?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Who are you? And I said, oh, Jack, As I said,
remember I was gonna come and have a chat. He
goes too late, bad luck, turn around and walk. It
rocked me. I was like holy funk.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I was like, holy, I'll be an angeled.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, that's right because the character of Jamie Angel, he
worked it always when used across to him, he was
the he was back announcing for Inverel FM.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It was FM in Verels station, that was Huey Lewson News.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Take a break, Angel, send me in the Angel.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That made me feel a lot better than did you.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Did you knock around with a lot of the personalities
at the time who were on Today or Triple Am.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Not really, Mate, we were, Mate. I was in I
was in data entry, so I was and even sell them.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You were just putting the data.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I was putting the bookings into the system. And I
did that for about two and a half years and
then I was like, oh fuck, I'm a bit over this,
and so I went and became a logistics manager for
a furniture company.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
How was that that sounds fun?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I actually loved it, Matt. I was working in a
warehouse by myself. I just had to build furniture, fucking
make sure the orders got it. I was there by myself, Mate,
and I'm like having a great grand all the time.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, no stress, a lot less stressful.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I found. Look, I'm not great at the attention of
detailed stuff, so I actually found this data entry thing
I would be fucking up a fair bit and that
would cause a great deal of stress for me going
into work. The Sunday scaries for me, Mate, were horrific.
Oh really, because I just knew I was going to
go into a show that that I'd created on.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
The Friday, and you know what, that's Monday problem.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I used to say future Jack's issue and then future Jackie,
are you fucking dickhead? Now it's us? Yeah anyway, But yeah, look,
I enjoyed. I enjoyed it. I work with really good people.
Radio stations are a fun place to work. I got
to do voice work, I got to do different things,
which was a cool part of it. But the core
job that I was doing not really to say.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
When Colin Jack left it would be easy to saw uranium.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Oh mate, it was yeah, pretty punchy stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Should we go into that.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I'm about to get there. I want to ask Jue
a quick question as because you're you're quite philosophical. You're
a great thinker, okay, and I want to run something
past you quickly because with the ever changing landscape, Oh
here we go. Sorry, did you just swear?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Please?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Cussing? You feel free? With the ever changing landscape in
Australian media, do you see mainstream media such as newspaper,
radio and TV changing across the next five years?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Look?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Do you think it's going away from it?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Curbs print, print and radio?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Burmi?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Are they no?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Look? It is changing mate, there is that you know?
Think about this when when radio had a stronghold on
the mark it that was the only option. Audio on
demand wasn't really a thing, you know, and now you've
got so essentially you if you love a radio station,
you sort of plumped with that talent, correct, do you know?

(39:14):
In each time slot and then you're dealing with I
mean there's ads through everything, but you're dealing with a
high sort of a portion of ads within those shows
as well, because they've got to sell the advertising space
in order to generate revenue. So it's podcasting coming through
to me is a superior product because you can choose
who you want to listen to. People actively seek out

(39:36):
your podcast because they want to hear you talk.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
That was just an example, it was an act. It
was more of a general statement. You no, but they do.
They seek you out because they want to listen to you.
Whereas if you're on radio, that's you. You're sort of
you're pushed upon the audience.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You're seeing a music festival as opposed to exactly right.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And I think, you know, with TV mate, I kind
of missed the days when we had the guy and
it was simple. It was kind of simpler, I think
being spoiled for choice, which we are. It's harder.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I sit on Netflix for an hour trying to pick
a movie.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It's shocking, mate, and eye bloody. Like remember you go
to video easy and you get two other nighters and
three weeklies. And I've said this before, and you'd sit
down as a family watch the movie. The movie. At
the end, you'd go, that was fucking shit. Yeah, but
you'd watch the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah you would, Yeah, you go. Yeah, it's funny because
you know, the old man would bring back movies like shocking.
Asia said, movies like The Deer Hunter. When I was
a kid, they would never have watched. But when I
look back now, I go, wow, like one of my
favorite movies of all time. But you know, I'll tell
you another one. Jackson was really interesting working commercial radio.

(40:45):
The golden rule commercial radio, the formula they always go by,
and now Kyle and Jackson's really smashed that apart was
you know, song, three minute break song advertising, So theye
Jamie said, come on, guys, three minutes, keep it light,
bright and get out in the high People are drawn
now to podcasting. They're like long form conversation. Yeah, it's

(41:06):
it's gone cycle. You're dead, right, It's so different. They're
willing to sit there for an hour. Yeah, radio is
sort of you get that quick fix and then you're
back to the song with us. Right, Okay, we're going
to Van Halen now more Van Halen, No guns and roses.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Hell yeah, good lose in the news Power of Love Angel.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Okay, Matthew, Now, let me just introduce Maddie's segment. He's
got a segment Jarge called tough Talk. So he writes
all these questions himself. These are the hard hitting questions.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
You may have not have been asked these sort of
questions by hard hitting journalists like Matthew before, but you
have to answer them and if you don't, that's consequence.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Who kisses?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, we've got the Bob cap wait down there to
chew your face off talking about truce like that or
chewing your face out. It feels to laugh. There's not
nothing too seriously seriously the media landscape. Nothing divides generations

(42:24):
like halftime entertainment.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh mate, I was telling I was telling him on
the Family podcast this week, so him, Trish and Jack
didn't really like it, but I informed them about the
Kendrick Drake beef and like how Serena and Scissor were
the exes. They didn't know that it would leave that to.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Your own concerts. You're singing to the whole world. Who
gives a ship if you don't get on with some Canadian.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Wrapper when you get anger? Yeah I loved it.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, Look I'm not that fucking involved with it.
So you know it's cast where the friendly.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Goes to me Garfield?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know, just a cat did make steam?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Don't Mickey?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Way back there?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
So we're talking about you know who worked at sales
at Today FM? Is it truth that after Colin Jackie left,
the only thing he could really sell the companies was
ear plugs, trauma counseling and high broachure ear bags just
in case the dial was stuck on one four winning cars?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
How did you know?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
You say about two jib as always sell things? He said,
funerals and erect oldysfunction panning whistless a river again on
Colin Jackie leaving getting start, Yeah, Colin jack leaving, It's
sort of almost fitting. They replaced by called Rove given

(43:55):
the fact that the ratings were roving to other stations
have never returned.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It was the bird he did it with Sam Bloody
lovely girl the Bachelor.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah the bash. Yeah, yes, she was a lovely girl.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
She was.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
She got place with Rove. Bring anyone down?

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Where is he still?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
He does some protroject he owns all of that.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, he does roving enterprises, so he owns the brother.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
What's he rolling it?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Oh, jesu, we shouldn't be I've got male envy.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I really do similar.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Now before the mate, that's the chap before the interview,
you spoke about how one thing you did like about
Today FM. You see your fans of Ed Aaron and
Hughesy their show. Having said that at the time your
fans of nailing your screwed him to the wooden floor
as well.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Both provide the same sensation which I like.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And of course then Merrick, what's coming? Merrick is a
good bloke. He is a good, good fellow. Ironic that
he surnames wats You never lit the ratings up, although
when the bosses were here the show, they go, what
the fuck are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
This?

Speaker 3 (45:18):
This is could be the best tough to you've done.
None of them are question They're all.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Like, you're like a stand up. This is fucking unreal.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Who are the two blokes who like.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Now have come Tommy and Nate on the Breakfast Show today.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Good blokes, good blokes.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, I love the podcast.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Don't waste your money on fortune. Tell the boys. That's
tough talk for this week.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Brilliant love it. Not a single question in there for Josh,
They're all rhetorical. I preferred that I love it. Oh
that was I'm telling you, that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
That's got me going.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
How long did it take to write that up?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Six minutes? Just sometimes for just I got two hours
await for the last six minutes. You get the adrenaline
gun type, bright and punchy.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
That's why your legendary status it is thirty three years
in the media, still going strong.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Soft hair.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
That was fucking great.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Run us through the partty Now we've got there. Finally,
we mean well podcasts, we mean well. You and lou
first of all, you and Luisa Daldon who lose great
from New Zealand. She's a weapon, she's is she the
brains behind it?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Fuck me swinging you listen?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
She a heavy lifting Yeah yeah, yeah, mate, she is.
Her work ethic probably superseds that of mine. I rely
on sometimes I rely to heavily on my creativity and
just show up there on the on the spot. On
the spot, lo's better. It's it's sort of organizing and
channeling that energy.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Well I knew that because when you did Our Fine Day,
Lou was sick and Jorge said, Mate, I've got to record.
Can you do his favor and come over and fill in?
I went yes, sweet went over. I said, so what
are we talking about? He just showed me his phone notes.
He had four dot points. It was working with your
dad and it was like, ex what was it like

(47:13):
playing footy? And then it was like game question mark
and then feedback and I was like, is that what
we're doing there? He's like, yeah, yeah, we'll just roll
with it.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Boys. I listened to the podcast. You sounded like two
drunks basically to the Doorway in the dark.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Mate, and that you were lucky you got some fucking
dot points to be honest with.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah, no, but I liked it.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I think we I actually really enjoyed that podcast. It's
a standout for me. I think we bounced off each other. Well,
I think it flowed.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
We're brilliant. Yeah, we're getting Honestly, if you didn't hate
if you didn't have Lou and I didn't have this fellah.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Where did you had? You meet your left?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
So we we actually steph laying in bed, she showing
these videos. She goes, how funny is this bird? I go, yes,
she's prett funny because Lou was doing her own videos
and stuff. And then it turns out we had a
mutual friend. Her boyfriend at the time was really good
mates with a good made of mine from back in
Wolker We go fuck small world. Turns out she lived

(48:13):
four hundred meters away from us, and I just bumped
into it the coffee shop and and I said, she
goes TikTok boy, and I said, hey, TikTok girl. I said,
what's going on? And we just started yawning, and I said, mate,
let's do some Let's do some videos together. And then
we started doing videos together, just you know, comedy skits
and that sort of thing. And then Tom and Eddie
from how they Sport. So I went to UNI with

(48:34):
both of those blokes. I live with them at Bathos.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
And the Patudo Advocate Boys as well, and the Patto
Boys something in that Uni Brothers.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Uni. A lot of really successful people have come out
of basis. Yeah. I was trying to think of it.
As long as you do it sounds like we're going
to come poste an amazing amount of people come out
of there. Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
It was surprised. Yeah, we were surprised that anyone from
our mob has done anything of mate, really, but those two,
as you know, super successful with their podcast. And I
was one of those blokes that was always, oh, fuck,
I've got this thing I want to do great Australian yarns,
and I'll do this podcasting, great idea. And at this
wedding one day and Eddie just tore strips off me.

(49:17):
He goes, can you shut the fuck up? He goes, mate,
you have been yarning about this for that long. He's like,
you've done fuck all. We've told you if you want
to do a podcast, come come with us. We'll do
whatever you want. We've got the resources. And I was
thinking about it, and I was like, I reckon Loe
would be great. So I pitched it to the boys

(49:37):
and said, I'm thinking about maybe if we do a
podcast that lou would be my partner and we just
make it a sort of We didn't know what it
looked like they said, great, we'll do three trial shows.
We did three trial shows and Mate, we just left
the studio laughing. It just felt really great, and that
became our pilot episode, and so it just and then
it's just sort of grown. It's just grown from there.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Chemistry is more important than content.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I could not agree more. And I think one of
the great things as well is that the audience is
grown with us. Lou and I are not old friends,
We're not old school friends. We didn't fucking know each other.
We just started to making videos, so we were learning
a lot about each other as the podcast progressed. So
the audience sort of watched our friendship blossom and they
grew with us, which I think was a really good

(50:21):
thing too.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I'm curious about this because, like with the boys, like
it's a little bit like a couple of angles here,
you know, playing support alongside of my brother Harves. We
work in partnership. There were times we had massive blues
on the field. Times were over each other. On this podcast.
We've had storm outs. Now I'm working with the family.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
He was pointing at Jack.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Then we've had we've had disagreements, a pointing at couper,
some people think they know better, like Cooper. You know,
I've always worked with people closest to me, only occasionally
here and there. I've worked with people that you've got
to like, are there times with you? How is it
with you and Lou? There's some days one's feeling a
little off.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Oh yeah, yeah. I'm a bit of a shutdowner. So
if I am fucking if I'm pissed off, I tend
to shut down like a robot. And she, she is good,
just like Steph is good at forcing me to talk
through it, talk for it, because I'll just be like

(51:23):
fuck this, you know. And it's happened very rarely. Lou
and I have actually never had had a huge blue
We've had minor disagreements that might leave us leaving the
podcast studio a little off each other, but we've never
had We've never had a full blone stick, which is
I think that speaks volumes to the chemistry that we've
got and the friendship that we've developed that it it

(51:47):
just seems to work, and we're sort of on the
same page with most of the stuff that we do.
It would I'd hate to be on a different page
to her and everything that we do and we're just
constantly butting heads, but we just seem to be on
the same page, so that I'll alleviates a lot of
that potential stress, you know, because I think if you
have pure creative differences with someone that you're in a
creative field with, that's where the stinks are going to start. Yeah,

(52:10):
you know, if you if you see the podcast going
this way and I see it going that way, we're
gonna connect and butt heads there. But we seem to
have the same trajectory.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
What I love about you guys is like, but we
we lean into it as well. Dad's TV show. You
guys lean to it as well. You don't try to
be like a traditional like oh, like it's highly produced
and but shit starts going wrong. You just lean into
it and you just go with it. And just like
like if you might argue with Lou about something and

(52:40):
then it just ends and it's your podcast. You're just
screaming at each other, basically just venting.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Live on the poddy, which we do.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, and it's the best part of it.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I think it's because yeah, it's a level of friendship
that we can do that and we know that the
podcast our main thing with the podcast what we've found
and I don't know if you've seen this money, especially
with the inception of social media, it just seems to
me that it's made things fairly divisive. Everyone's opinion seems

(53:10):
to be the most important opinion. Their opinion is the
most important, and everyone has different opinions based on their
life experience. And I just say it, like, you know,
fucking one ball person from Love Island tells me who
I should vote for in the next election. You know,
I just think that sometimes it's like there's too much
of that. So we made a concerted effort at the
start of before doing this where we're like, we're never

(53:31):
going to do anything really political. I think there's enough
of that. There's enough of that in the media as
it is. Let's just try and make people laugh for
an hour. Let's just try to do that.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, you know, not to say.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That we won't get behind causes or will do you know,
we can do that, but just in terms of the divisiveness,
we just wanted to remove ourselves from it. And to
be honest, you're kind of the black sheep in media.
I think if you take that approach, Yeah, I think
it's I think people are just born with it. It's
like you hear people you said about that people going.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Person. The other day, I say, I will never ever
vote labor. I thought, Jeffrey Darmond, doesn't you own liberal?
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But your spot on the
phrase you used to hear all the time when I
grown up as a kid. You never hear these days.
It's do you know what? You make a good point?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
How can I just it's the civil discourse seems to
be something of the past, where it's just people just
scream opinions at each other and then never take anything in.
I like to think I'm not a smart man. I
like to think that I'm malleable enough to be able
to hear different, differing opinions and then formulate a judgment
based on what I've taken in. You know, because I'm

(54:40):
not going to solve cancer or cure can any problems
or you know, I'm not gonna I'm not that guy.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, A shame because we brought you here. I got
this lamp.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Time's aggressive.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You sold.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
What I was saying, was I The thing I hate
most is when somebody gives their I might say my opinion,
they go no, I don't agree with that and give
theirs and I go, okay, like why I try to
try to understand their perspective, but they give me they
give me zero, like they don't. They just go I
believe it, Like that's the and I'm like, can you
just elaborate a little bit so I try to understand it.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, I think that's that ship. That's probably a fairly
common way that people sort of with each other these days.
It's just yeah, it's just a bit fucking repetitive, mate,
to be honest with you. I love nothing more than laughing,
that's right. So if like, that's why I think I'm
the luckiest like in the world, it's now my job
to go in and sit with one of my best
friends and just try and make eag you laugh for

(55:39):
an hour. Yeah, and that's the gig.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I just really love laughing at people. That's really why
I want to be back, and then laughing at them
as they turn around and realize it was me.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, as they're slightly bleeding out. Yeah, that's a little
sadistic matter. I will be honest with you, but I
respect it. That's not John.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
When he stayed by someone and then you.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Just lean down as the light starts to fade, and
you lean down, you go. They'll never know.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I heard this story once which I love this right
when elves a lot of Elvis is great. Mate twenty passed.
He was laying in his coffin, open casket. Only certain
amount of people were allowed to come and see him,
and James Brown arrived and James Brown walked up the
great chance around leading down to Elius and I thought
he's going to kiss him and win.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I win.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's dark. That's there's also a great James Brown impersonation
to I feel good.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I feel like I I've actually never done where he's
off his chops, that type of thing America, it's man's world.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I feel good. He's got some of the great coked
up performances of all time, even on news interviews, and.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
They had the one where he's got the glass.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
He's mad. I can't believe. Yeah, you love you.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
While we're on impersonations, you got any for us because
you when you have got an immaculate ear for replicating.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Noise, Well, I've got one that I've done on the
pody before I can do a bit of James Blunt.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Oh yeah, that's a weird one.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
It is odd, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah? Okay, are you ready going?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I haven't done this for a while. That hold on,
are you singing? I'll sing it?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Okay, she said to me, go Staddy on me.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I want to tell me what the wise man says
when they came down from heaven smoked nine till the seventh,
all the ship that they could find, but they couldn't
be safe from you, couldn't be free of your And
now they know there's no way out and there pretty
sorry enough for what they've done.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
There were three wise men. That's very good. I'm sitting
with now.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
It's a good song.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I think if something happens to the podcast, you could
be a very good James Blunt personation. I don't know
if anyone will turn up, because somebody good. Many James
Blunt fans out there?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
There is is there, there's plenty of Yeah, James Blunt,
I'm a James Blunt man, right, Yeah, I put him in.
I'm a Blunt.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I'll put him in. Chris Martin, James Blunt, the bloke
who's the bloke and Maroon five that.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
You hate, Adam run me through that.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I just you know, when he took your shirt off
at the Super Bowl at Atlanta. I reckon, you take
your shirt off. If you've got a dad's pot, if
you've got a ship body, then you take it off
and people go yeah. But when you know you're ripped, yeah, good,
and you take your shirt off, you go.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Well, that's a bit harsh, because what's the point of
getting ripped if you can't take your shirt off?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
It's just it just shows your vein. Yeah, I mean
I love big fat slobs.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Well, there's been a bit of a theme late. We
went away to Fiji recently. Judge and the Eagle Rock
come on and people are getting their pants.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Big Am was getting offended by Yeah. He didn't realize
he'd never heard of the igorock thing where you take
the pants?

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Are you fair? Never heard it? Is that right?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I never heard it.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I've never heard that song and add my pants up
really never.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
He thought it was weird. He freaked out when me
and Jack's pants come on and he was like, what
do you guys do when you're doing and we were like,
it's what you do and he then we had to
explain him the next day.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Is that a country thing?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
No, I wouldn't say, because because you're doing.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, maybe it's a phenomenon, just a few things.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
At the moment, I think the pants down, think I
don't get it, but you know, the people, it's a
thing for a long time. I think he's another one
wants your opinion. I think sweet Caroline needs to be
flushed in. I told her for another twenty years.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, the whole crowd. When I see it on ads
or I see people start seeing in the pub, I
think to myself, oh mate, you're too late to the party. Listen,
you've missed it.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I'm half with you on that one. Half half.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Well what does that means?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Well, if I'm fucking bling and she comes on, I'll
probably bel a liberal direct. Yeah no, but I get
what you mean. It's fucking overdone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, come on, Lukey came the other night. Remember he
starts with it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
That had a bit on there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
But were you drinking? Were you drinking alcohol?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
No, not me. I only do that strictly on the
bust of me, exactly. That's right for breakfast on Sundays
Blue with a wife. Oh god, fuge wife, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
A couple of years ago, a Trician and I went
a Broadway and we saw the Neil Diamond musical Yeah
jazz singer, and it was unbelievable and it was like peaking.
Then all of a sudden, literally this the blake is
playing games. Oh my god. He said, I've just got
a WhatsApp? Can we put it on the screen? And
was Neil Diamond basically sending his congratulations through hearing how

(01:00:53):
good it was. And they put him on the beach
when he was talking, right, so he's like, hey, guys,
is Neil Damon here?

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
He sounds like Christophe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I like it, like, hey gays, it's me Neil And
this is fantastic. Another about eight minutes, everyone's going, oh
fucking hell, mate, can we shut this old blake down?
Give back off the music? He kept talking and you know,
I come up with this concept and talking about everyone's
going on no, like, how is this going to end?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Mate? That's I've got a similar theory about wedding speeches.
Oh fucking shout.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Out to dream Blue White.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah he was doing crowd he was doing crowd work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That was special to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
That was that was the greatest watch your theory. Sorry, Joe. Well,
I just so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I caught up my best man the other day. I said, mate,
we're doing five minutes and under each speech. I said,
there's a few few people talking and we're doing a
bit of a stand up affair. So I said, just
let's keep it five and under. Speaking to my MC
and celebrant yesterday, Corko Corky goes, yeah about Taos, mate,

(01:02:07):
I said, no, he goes, fucking little weasel. I said,
what he goes? As soon as I called Toby and
said that, He's called up my mum and said, noll,
Jorge has just told me that it's five minutes an
under for this, but I can't do it. She's gone, Toby,
don't listen. You speak for as long as no.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Why does he sound like that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
That's just how he talked.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
That is that is torture. How much you love the
bride and groom to listen more minutes?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Mate, I've sat through one that went for thirty seven minutes.
I actually I got up and last mate, I went
for a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
And the fucking pe Tricia and I did. Recently, there
was one where people clearly trying to out to each
other and it got to the point, this was hour
and a half in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
We just went that's fucking you know, that is insane. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I was MC in one recently and introduced the dad
of the bride.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Oh my fucking lord.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
He got up there. He had four pages, right, but
he couldn't get through the first page. He was so
nervous and stuttering. And now I was sitting there going
I cut him off, and the groom and that were
going get him off. But what I didn't know, I'd
let him go by the time he got to the
third page. Now his ex wife was there as well,
with the with the like her new husband and the

(01:03:26):
husband even they were all head down. I was going,
I thought that that bad for this bloke. I feel
horrendous for him. It was actual painful. And I got
up there and I midway through I was thinking of
all these jokes of how when I can bring the
crowd back just go wow, thanks for that. There it's
not it's a funeral, not not a funeral. But it

(01:03:46):
was so sad that everyone like I just went, wow,
give him another hand round of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
A easy to Yeah, that would have been the easy
one of my dear mates. He played rugby league and
Rabbi Uni right wind. We went to his wedding overs seas,
and the father in law he didn't. They didn't really
know each other due circumstances. So what the father. They
got him up to speak and he just he printed

(01:04:12):
all the stuff off Wikipedia and read it. Yeah yeah.
And then he went to the Warrington Wolves.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
True story.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
He played fifty three games, scoring seventeen tries. Well, what
a career.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
He went to Monster and rugby Union. They won a
European Cup. Unfortunately he did not take part in the
match winning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And then it gets down to the legal issues a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Yeah yeah yeah, source bracket https.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah yeah, I'm just going to go through the bibliography.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Oh boy, before we let you go. The back end
of last year, you and Lou were on weekends at Nova.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
We were mate, we were where's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
That you don't you were doing once a week or
we were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Once once a week. So we did a bit of
a trial, bit of a trial and over, which was good.
I enjoyed it. Is that, mate. We decided to let
that sit. We enjoyed the experience. Just park it for now.
I just think my main focus for this year and
probably the next year, and fucking the year after is
to cultivate WE Mean Well as much as we can,

(01:05:20):
to put all of my time and energy into WE
Mean Well. So whilst I love the experience, I actually
truly enjoyed doing radio and it was a bit of
a full circle moment for me. That was kind of
what I wanted to do coming through Uni. That was
my intent at university. So having my own show, having
the phat out of there, I was like, this is cool.
But it's just a timing thing, mate, and we're just

(01:05:42):
I just really want to focus on making we Mean
Well the best shit podcast that we can make it. So, yeah,
that's where it's at.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
What's good with podcasting as well, Like radio has that
many guidelines, Like what you guys talk about on the
podcast itself, you'd have to cut it in the product
that you guys have created, which is so good you
got to cut it in half to actually air it
on radio. Yeah, I say, so many different rules.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And shit correct and that's what we've sort of come from.
Like going from podcasting the radio is sort of like
coming like full freedom to your restrainer in jail. Not
that that's about I mean, it is, as you said before,
it's quicker. So it's you're not having to sit there
and talk for fucking yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
That's right to the ways. It's easy yet, but it's
more districtive exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I am. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
How have you found coming from radio traditionally into this
podcasting world?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I see what it is, Jus. It's it's you know,
like it's all about timing. It's a lot about preparation. Particularly,
it's like with Cooper and I and yourself having a
guess that side of it's easy. But when I first
went in to one on one interviewing, it was hard
because I would sit there and go, you know, even
for the TV interviews and stuff like that. So right,

(01:06:52):
how long we want? Thirty minutes? So I would plan
for a thirty minute interview. P youve got no idea
what cadence the person you're interviewing talk.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
So some people will go, and I've interviewed a few
and they just go, I don't know that maybe ah, yeah,
you know, I want to stay humble. I want to
talk about that. You go in Jesus Christ, ten minutes
in with three quarters away. So now for you, if
I like to do a one on one interview and
it's going to go for half an hour. I've got
a plan for an hour and a quarter hul on
the run. Yeah, okay, because I've been You get the

(01:07:21):
cold sweat when you get there sometimes and the person
is like painfully humble and you're saying that. Tell us
about people saying you're the greatest of all time. Some
people accept that talk for ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Other people will shut it down and go, oh, you know,
feel awkward and say, oh no, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
It's a great point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That's why I made it for youself. I can write
it down for you and Lou before you go, as
long as you give you credit for it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
He wants to credit everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Put it on the tomb.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Oh well, brilliant Archie, Jack Matthew, any.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
More questions for judge? We're good being generous.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Do you have any questions for us?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I just want to say, I just want to say
thank you for having me on boys this. I'll be
honest with you, Maddie. As a country key growing up
and watching you, this is a this is a special
experience from me, and obviously watching till Footy creeds it
is very special as well. There but Matte it is
very special for me, so I appreciate you, you guys
having me in and it's been a fucking blast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Now wish I could say the same. Well, you know
you can. We appreciate you coming over. Thanks boys, Thank
you to all of all listeners who continue to listen
to us. Look, if you're enjoying the podcast, just do
us a favorite. Hit that follow button on your podcast
app right now. It helps us bring you great new

(01:08:49):
episodes and make sure that you won't miss anything whether
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follow or subscribe and stay in the loop. Anyway, guys,
cheers

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