June 8, 2025 • 51 mins
The boys sit down with Bulldogs star Jacob Preston to chat about the fiery Eels vs Bulldogs clash. He opens up about life at the Doggies, his rise in the NRL, and the culture under coach Cameron Ciraldo. Preston also shares insights on his teammates and what drives the squad.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks guys, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, we love you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I had nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
With that, mate, No, who cares.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, Jacob, thanks for coming over me. No worries, mate,
thank you going me on and finally got out of you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, it's a big talking point. Presto.
My message Pressto reckoned a month ago, just before his suspension.
He was like, yeah, bloody, he only lives up the road.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Bloody.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I THO keenurs come on? And then and I was like,
he's keen to go on. Sometimes you get the vibe
where someone's not yea, Presto, mate, let's get over, let's
get in there. And then boss, it was like the
earth had just ended and Presto had gone underground.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Or suspensions do that?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, well I don't know if they do. And then
he he must be you must be a hard blow
to date.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. I think I text my misses a bit better
than I've got back to you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So I was gonna say, if you're better than doing that,
because she would have left you pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Quick if I tear what YouTube blokes in the same room. Wow,
I mean I remember the day Bo, what you was
that made both for manly you and yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, Brook, you over your bulldog's day. Mark. Yeah, he
come on off the bench and you sub someone off
quite quickly too. They must have blown out of steam.
Joey Simpson, Nah, I think Ray might have gone to
the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And then I moved into the.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Of course, and your parents were sitting next to me.
That was a weird thing. Yeah, I'm in there watching
and then I heard him. Your mum must have mentioned
your name and I looked over and someone told me, oh,
that's Jacobs. Yeah, played well too. He did play well.
He played really really good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Didn't didn't break any tackles.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It was a tough day, but you guys prettle bit
of a score on us.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But isn't it funny how far the club has come.
I remember that that first day it was like Ciro's.
It was Siro's first game. He charged with all this
hope and I thought you guys were strong in the
first twenty minutes, but you just sue the combination. They
hadn't form like Berdo and Villi Army were oil and water.
They couldn't get their combination going. But usually come a
(02:06):
long way to see them.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Jacob, Yeah, definitely. I think the obviously we didn't start
too well in twenty The first game wasn't too good,
but I think the first five rounds of twenty twenty
three after that we actually played some half decent footy.
We beat Melbourne and Melbourne and that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Then the year kind of went downhill from there, But
twenty twenty four and onwards it's, yeah, it's definitely gone
up here.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You can see like it takes people sometimes when they
get like a star player overt all club or like
a new coach and they want instant success. It's like,
we've got this boat, now we're going to kill it.
That was a bit like that year with the Dogs,
where it was like you guys had Foxy come over,
Birdo kickout and everyone was like that, they're going to
make an instant impact. But it takes. It takes at
(02:46):
least a couple of years to get like combinations people.
I think people underestimate how long it takes to actually
get a group to understand each other as players.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, definitely, I think that twenty twenty three year it
was a lot of kind of learning new systems. Obviously
some of the boys had you've been under zero at
Panriff but for a lot of the boys at the club,
there's a lot of learning the system and some kind
of I guess couldn't really get their heads around it.
But yeah, another year on twenty twenty four, it kind
of started to click. And now this year it's got
even better.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Jacobs and guys. It's not just even like understanding each
other's games, understanding the angles to run, how you like
to receive the ball, all those things. It's as very
simple sometimes as just catching another person's pass. I always
say a pass every playmaker's pass has. It's like a
thumb print. Everyone's just slightly different. And I remember playing
(03:35):
for it with Andrew for a long time and then
go to a different halt for inormation and the ball
just dips a little bit different. Other people throw at
a certain angle. All those kinds of things you've got
to get used to, you know, Hence the importance of
your school works relentlessly over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, even some hearts like catching a little bit wider
or closer to the rock. So just been tough sitting
on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I imagine I'm telling you they're missing you that that last game,
you know, forty four forty four to six, you have
that Dolphins game. I can see they're really missing you
out there. Mate. For you, what do you? What do
you do as far as when you're suspended and you're
able to run and do everything? What's it? What's the
typical week for you at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, and I'm definitely missing being out there and I
can't wait to get back when you got one more
game now. But yeah, because it's quite a long stint.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I didn't think they gave you enough suspension.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, the eye gouging.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Because it was quite a long stin kind of been
like a little mini preseason, I guess. So the boys
got a couple of days off during the by round
last week, but I've been in most days training hard
and Travy Tumar.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Oh it's bloody tough, isn't it. Rehab rehab trainings is
a lot harder. I mean, sorry, suspension training overheal training.
When you're not trained with the main group a lot
of the time because they're playing, it is to they
flogged out.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They might match them, so like it's pretty much like
planning getting the same columber as you're doing the game.
But you're just doing like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Aimless running and I put it up a little bit
closer to the Yeah there, I'm really on the bit.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
My radio sensibility is kicking a big game against Paramounta
two traditional rivals up against each other. You know a
lot about the history of these two clubs up against
each other.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
In the eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, a huge and the massive battle the including.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The fact that when Paramuter won the first premiership in
nine to eighty one, the fans burnt the old Cumberland
Oval green Sea into the ground. So that's when they
had to build so where Paramount of Stadium was now
it's so combank. Yeah there used to that used to
be a ground called Cumberland Oval, had a green sea
in there and it was it was run down, it
(05:50):
was like decrepit and when they won them their first
ever competition, the fans just burnt it to the ground.
Hence they had to build a new ground which which
would become Paramouter Stadium and now Combink. But in that
about five I think it was six years, they had
to share the ground more over with the Bulldogs. Yeah,
so you had the two powerhouse sides playing out of belmore.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So it's like what it's like Penrith and Power this
year right come back? Yeah, Wow, Wow. Who would you
say is the biggest rivalry, like, because it feels like
Bulldogs have a rivalry like everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, a lot of clubs, but I'd say probably Big Power.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And then obviously Good Friday was always a big game.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's a big it's a Jacob. It's such a great club.
And I'm saying that because you're here, say the people,
it's such a great club. When the Newcastle Knights coming
in ninety eight, we stole your players, we stole your coaches,
We tried to steal your culture, everything about it, like
the Newcastle Knights, the foundations of that club. You know,
we're if you had an architecture looking after but we
(06:49):
had the same architect as you, Blake, So we tried
to copy that culture and it's it. And there's certain
there's certain things I always find about a Bulldogs player,
like toughness, you know, not really think about playing around
and opposition more play through short ball, playing all those
little things that I think have just stayed in the
culture of the club for such a long time. And
(07:10):
bellmore oval Man I tear in the nineties playing a
Bill Moore oval. It was, it was it was wild.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Bellmore was incredible. I've played a couple of games,
been lucky enough to play a couple of games there now,
and it just seems every time we like every game,
next time we play at Belmo, it gets bigger and bigger.
There was a game there against Camber last year and look,
it was crazy at the stadium, but then on the
streets that the main street of it was going off
like crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, do you find that, Like you're a kid from
the northern beaches, Like you see the scenes over in
Belmore after you guys win and it's just like DJ's
in the streets, like Belmore is basically shut down. It's
like every week's a Grand Final like it basically it
looks like how Liverpool is at the moment when they
when they win the football, like they shut the streets down.
There's like flares going off, like it's insane. Is that
(07:56):
like just crazy for you being out there?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is, It's crazy. It's definitely different what I've kind
of grown up. But then go on and get and
be part of it. It's so special and I say
it all the time, but we have the best fans
in the game and to make them happy. It's unreally,
they are.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
A loyal fan. Like someone was telling me the other
day one of the boys who went to the Bulldogs
and then a few years later ended up leaving. He said,
when he went to and this is a very modern
take on this, when he went to the Dogs, he
gained like twenty thousand social media followers straight away and
he said when he left, they all unfollowed him. Yeah,
it shows how loyal these fans are, like to get
(08:30):
around their players, like the boys that are there. The
fans just get around you and build you up so much.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They support you no matter what. Yeah, they're very loyal.
But yeah they give your stuff, They give your presents
and stuff at fans honey stuff. I got given a
shirt the other day, like just at a fan signy.
Think it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's good. So that area defined by the football team
in a lot of ways, you know, and vice versa
is the fans and the people of that community they draw,
they draw a steam soff esteem by how the football
side's going. It's just it's just insane and do you
know what pressure There's been a lot of tough years
with the Bulldogs and it's not nice going, you know,
(09:06):
when you've got the foot in your throat all the
time and you're scrapping away. But it's not bad sometimes
for a club to experience that, to experience a little
bit of time down there, because then when you rise again,
like new blokes have done, everyone appreciates the more you know,
and it just sends a certain buzz through the community.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, definitely for sure. Like like I was saying in
twenty twenty three, it's kind of the opposite end of
the spectrum. It was very very much as struggle towards
the back end there. We had a game against Newcastle
sixty six nil and that was definitely tough times. But
to see where we've come come from and who we're
at now, and then the crowds and stuff slowly built
up along the way, it's very special.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You see. Like those young blokes who like the Boys,
are the young fellows that went into that Penricide who
started winning comp like Burdo Critter, they come into a
team where you almost expect every year it's going to
come kind of easy and you're going to win a
Grand Final every year, Like a lot of you guys
at the Dogs have come in at a time where
you understand how hard it is to not just make
(10:04):
the top eight, but to like get to a Grand final,
like to get to finals. Now, I imagine you boys,
it's something that will stop you boys being complacent, Like
even though he's are at the top end of the ladder,
you're not taking it for granted like a lot of
his teams can do sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Nah, for sure, we know we've done nothing yet, like
kind of learned a lot from last year. We kind
of went on a bit of a run there and
got to the finals and we kind of burnt out.
I guess a little bit. It wasn't really how we
wanted to end the year and to kind of put
a fire under our belly to go bigger and better
this year. And I think it's pretty evident with how
we're training and you're not getting complacent at all.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
This is going to be a mega game against Earls
because Eels are really starting to form. You can see that, Rosies,
all the stuff that Rosey tried to put in those
early rounds with Mitchell Moses coming back in the side,
you can see that, you know, all the things like
something last week, you know, Jacob looking at some of
their little attacking sequences and players were very very classy.
Yonge's starting to really pick up and find himself. It's
(10:59):
going to be a cracking game. What sort of crowd
are we expecting.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
They're trying to beat the Good Friday crowd, which was
sixty five thousand. That's their goal. Well, they're doing the
ten dollar tickets again did on Good Friday. That's their
goal wherever they get there, and I'm not too sure,
but it would be pretty crazy to see that was
the biggest regular season crowd ever?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Is that at a call, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, you don't get like they get it at Origin
and Finals, but you'd always see when you watch a
cor on TV and you see like half one side's full,
the camera goes the other side, it's just completely empty.
That game when you just played Good Friday, that was
chaos A like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It was incredible. We kind of we kind of walked
out of the hotel as well as before the game,
we stayed at the Pullman and the Bulldogs kind of
organized a fan get together like, so we walked out
the hotel when the scenes were incredible, it was like
see your people one hundred meters worth of people just
fully bulldogs, kid it up, cheering us on. And it
was very cool experience as well. And we're told you
(11:57):
kind of just.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Embrace it the call walk. So what happen on day game?
Do you boys stay at the hotel near Homebush the
night before?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, and then so that you're starting that tradition where
you walkers turning through the fans to the stadium.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, Well that was for Good Friday. We don't
do that every week, okay, but yeah, that was obviously
a big occasion and we wanted to embrace the big
crowd and kind of get a taste of it. So yeah,
that was very special. And but yeah we do we
stay out there before games as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ye right, yeah, it's a good policy. I just love
staying away the nothing. It's YouTube and I love you.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think it gets you a good night's sleep. Do
you have a roomy? Do you guys do roomy? Still?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I haven't had a roomy, kind of swapped and changed
a couple, but.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I've had who's been this year?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Harry Hayes is how interesting character, but he's a great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So Harry Hayes, He's he's not the one who only
debuted this year, right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
He debuted last year, but he's been in the team
ever since. Yeah, yeah, he's been going really well. Actually
he's actually living at Baga.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So you see other the Northern Meachs as well.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, he's a Central Coast boy, but he's he's moved
down to here and moved to Canal for a bit,
but he's living Baga.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now what's he what's we about him? He's got any
weird superstitions, No, no superstitions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
He's just an interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Humor.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah said humor, but is talking about weird sense of humors?
Max King one of the great How he is so
undercover funny, Like he's so funny for a bloke who
kind of like seems unassuming and very quiet, and then
once he gets comfortable in a group, you can't stop
him from talking.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Can't he spin a yarn? But like, honestly, I was
quickly say I want to give a massive shout out
to Maxie because he's origin Deaby. Was so good to
see Bloody on real and yeah, so happy for him.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Got it wrapped for him too when Laurie put him on,
like the first was first change. Yeah, he came on.
Of course I didn't kick off to Spencer, kicked off
the Max. He says, I don't know what it says
more about Spencer Max but less. But he's terrific.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh man, he's such good and we were at Melbourne together.
But he when he heard his achilles, it was like
borderline retirement, like king, he was. He was so like
low mentally he was. He do like nine months of rehab,
come back first run and he just gets so much
pain in it again that he couldn't even like they
just couldn't. They just had him on a what bike
for so long and he was like so the physios
(14:11):
didn't even know what to do. They were like, we
don't know how to fix this. It's so it's actually
a miracle that he's even back on the field playing.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The other thing about Max is and everybody's different, everyone
has their different bullies. But he is a man of faith.
He says that all the time. For him to go
through a really difficult period like that, there must have
been times that he was questioning going, oh like you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, to help me or what yeah, yeah, I know
what you mean, I know what you mean. He's a
big believer. I think he gives a lot of Well
I've seen his partner come out even when he made
his day Bill and was like, obviously they're very into
their faith and they gave a lot of that sort
of gratitude back to God.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Good on him.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Since you've been to church, me in school, probably since school.
We impressed. They went the same school. It was a
Catholical Christian.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Ridden right yeah, okay, well okay, what were.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You doing rest? They can't read all right?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, you're a few years younger than me because I
was in your brother's year.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Dana was in your ye.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, actually saw your old man at seven eleven the
other day. Yeah, but your you have a youngest brother
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yes, it would have been my stepdad.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah but yeah, yeah, yeah he would have come up.
I was young in him for ages.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah he's a good fellaw.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, I was for you. Hey, what's ages for you?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The chat? Yeah, we sat there probably forty five minutes
in the seven eleven minutes are.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Forty five minutes and the seven eleven Yeah, we're there
for mate.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We were there for ages. We were literally spinning yards
for so long like that with people because we just
filled up and there was cars like banking up behind
where our cars were filling up and just like waiting
for us to leave.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, let's the conversation, can you.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A lot of it was about Jacob, and then we
started talking about Dane, who I went to school with.
He was in my age. And then we started talking
to your youngest and he was telling me how much
you love footy. He had like footy he had. I
think he had bulldog shorts on.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Actually he actually last year was the ball boy for
the dogs. But was he He actually tackled at Streaker,
but yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Streaker like he's like eight or nine? Though?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Is he he's fifteen?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Now fifteen? She's not a bad judge of I cannot
pick kids age anymore. I was watching these kids trained
down at Cholera the other day and I was watching
train for ages and I was like, how good are
these guys going? Like I thought they were under seventies
because they look quite big. They were like under eleven's
The kids are getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sure yeah, yeah, sure good on them.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Eating the old church talking about that before, I just
I think the only time I go to church to
these days is funerals, even weddings. I sort of way
to get there, sort of stayed head towards the back.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, pretty morbid, pretty morbid thing to bring up your.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Sure, you know, as you get older, you know, as
you get older and you sort of you get off
more of the depressing sort of things. I find drinking
after a funeral is actually fun the way I wouldn't
say the word be fun. I'd probably get more of
a shine or a buzz, like you know, they get
that sort of feeling that comes of it's hard to explore.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, I suppose, like me and pressed those age right now,
it's like birthdays and weddings is like the big events
I suppose for you, Like you're done really celebrating birthdays
and weddings. Your only real time to get together as
a group is funerals. So that I suppose is like
your weddings now.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right, man, that's true, It's it's actually it's actually very
very true. Yeah, yeah, it is actually quite depressing. You
get there sometimes. But but I didn't mean that when
you go to twenty first or stuff there or weddings
and that you have a beer afters. But when you
go to a funeral and everyone's emotions are on edge
and things are down there. After a few beers, everything
(17:42):
just really starts to pack up. Well, Hence wedding crashes.
Wedding crashes compared to Chaz, you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Haven't seen wedding crashes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I have, But yeah, Will Ferrell's characters, so Vince fitz
Vawn and Owen Wilson their characters. They crash weddings to
pick birds, ladies and uh, and they come across Will Ferral.
He's a bandoned weddings. He goes, man, I've got a funerals.
He goes, women there are so hard.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I should watch it. Press that's good.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I did I remember watching him?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I was, yeah, watching tonight watch last Treament watch it is.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Now impressed it now pressed her. Let's now, let's keep
this tight. You know, I absolutely understand. I'm just going
to ask you this. I'm not going to ask you
about what position he may play against Paramatt or anything
like that. Lachlan Galvin, how's he how's he doing?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he's only been in for a couple of days,
but he's been really good. He's a really nice fella.
He's been ripping in at training and he's really can
learn all the systems and stuff, and yeah, he's a
really good kid.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Impressed her with the football.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, definitely lots of skill there, lots of it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Looks like you played against him a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I actually had never played against him. Last time we
played the Tigers, I was injured, which was last year,
and I haven't had the chance.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You didn't play one thirty. A lot to you more
three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What's because he's got what I want to talk about
it because you've you're known, you had a lot of
great haircuts and the Bulldogs, right, you have an excellent haircut.
The Northern Beach is mullet, it's great. A bit of
blonde through it. I'm sure you squirt lemon and when
you're when you're home alone. Lachlan Garvin's haircut now it's
making a lot of headlines at the moment. Is is
he copying flak at training because he looks at it's
(19:27):
like the bowl cut.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is it too early to take the fish out of it?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I saw that picture with the ball cut, but it
doesn't look that bad in person.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So yeah, yeah, might have just been a bad day.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, it might have been a bad Engle woman too,
sure of view commercials, you.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Know, but yeah it looks like Lloyd Christmas Fro dumb
and dumber.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He does.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
He's got that in there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
He does. Any of the boys, like any any piss
take or anything like that going on in practical jokes
on him?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah no not yet, Yeah, now yet they'll come. Yeah,
they'll come, for sure, they will.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, who gets who is like the practical joker in
the squad? Who gets on top of like like those
are kind of awkward situa iss when everyone's like, oh hey,
Lachla must whos the one that breaks the ice?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah? Creat is a man and he's awesome and kind
of breaking the ice and making everyone feel comfortable. We
think he's done amazing jobs since he came in doing
that and he connects the group.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Is Turps there, Jakie Turpin as well. He's one of
the great ice breaker.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I've never met him before. And then I was at
a at a pub in Brisbane. There was a long
lineup and Coopers Mate, there's bloke just out the front
of Mate out the front. He wants he wants to
know can you get him in? I looked out and
it was a little pumpkinheaded turban tine, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, So I think that was a magic round or
something and weird, weird sort of night for Terps, dad
and I. It was karaoke at this bar and brizzy
and it also managed to come inside with sex Bow.
So I don't know if if you ever heard of
sex Bow pressed, it's a perfect and it was like
it's like a convention where like basically like couples and
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just whoever's like really into that sort of thing go
there and at the bar when we're all doing karaoke,
it's like the whole of sex Bow would come into
this this pub and for whatever reason, I don't know
how it came up. I don't know if Terps had
been telling everyone in the thing, but they all thought
me and Terps were dating. All the couples in at
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sex Bo it's.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
A strange conclusion to reach one a northern hotel.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But we were sitting around having a beer and then
like this guy she was asking terms like how long
we'd be together, and I was like what, and Turfs goes, oh,
like just to start coming because they're all in there,
and like the kinky sort of couples and terms have
been saying the medium been dating for like three years.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, that was. It happened to me and Joey once.
We were out once and Blake come up and go,
you guys partners and we're like, what, I've got a
better taste than that. I mean, we have sex, but
we are from cesnoch.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
You know that is very true.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Last thing, unlock you can. I asked you did he
has he did? They ask him to address the group?
Do you address the group in any way, shape or form,
not asking for the contents? No, no, no, no, just
got on.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Gott got in and trained and yeah, it's been been
really good.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Look do you look nervous?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I think it would have been. It's like anyone's
first It's kind of like your first day of school.
You're always nervous. But the boys got around him and.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You guys got like a pretty mad It looks like
from the outside looking and he's a mad close group,
particularly this year. It looks like you celebrate every wind,
you celebrate all the tries. It looks like anyone gets
pushed over, you guys back them up and try to
fight whoever it is is. Do you like I suppose
it's a professional sport, Like you all get on with it.
But do you feel like is that like putting is
(22:22):
Galvin coming like affecting anyone's like head or anything. Everyone's
pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, everyone's sweet. Everyone just gets on with it. Yeah,
Like like you said, we're really connected and we're just
welcome in, welcomed him in. So yeah, it go out
there and ye're welcome and it's been really good.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You get there sometimes within clubs and people on the
outside will say, oh, mate, this is what's going in
the club is obviously really expecting the group. From my experience,
players just get on with it, you know what I mean. Yeah,
you just you get on with the game.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's like when it's like when players, it's like when
fans go, how could he sign for this club in
twelve months time? But all the boys are off him
and it's like no one, no one ever cares.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You all getting a new contract, that's fine, No one ever.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I've never seen someone go, mate, go up to someone
and go like pressed, I can't believe you signed for
them next year. That's it, Like no one ever really
gives the ship's.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah a presser, how's Cameron how's coach soeraldo going? Has
he turned into a coach? Hit? Yeah, because I don't
think you're not a first grade coach unless you become
angry and paranoid.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Is he is?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He same old sera, same old zero.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Definitely not angry your parently with it all.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, he's very calm and collected. And yeah, he's been
awesome so far. I've kind of had him my whole career.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And yeah, I was talking to Maxi King and Toby
Sex when they come on the Sunday Show about a
month or so ago, and was after the Broncos game
with a bad loss, and he said at halftime, which
you know, thirty odd thirty od neils how Siro and
he goes, mate, he was that calm. She was that calm.
In fact, he was so calm and talking about what
we had to do on the second half. He said,
we came out after half time went ashually, we can
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turn this around and maybe be these blokes now that's yeah, yeah,
that's that's that's sort of coach. You can do that conventure.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
We had full confidence we could have come out in
that second half and won the game. And I think
we put eighteen points on in that second half, and
we fully believe you could. And yeah, just the way
he addresses the playing group really simplifies it, dumbs it down,
and it was just on us to go out there
and do it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
What about the Raiders game?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That was incredible?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It was incredible?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, do you play that? Was that your first week?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
First week's?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, it's considering like, how could the Raid particularly like Raiders.
They're in the top four, Raiders aren't. They're on a
team that they're out of the bottom ete and they're
beating you by eddy and you come back. Raiders are
a proper Premiership contender now this year.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Turn our men up here for a second. We'll tell
pressed about what took place. Give me five jackair mate.
Me and Jack got a story about the Raiders Dogs
Remember that night.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, they are leading to the game.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
The old man just kept saying to me, I've got
a really good feeling that the Dogs this weekend because
I think Camera were favorites and it was a big
game Camera. It was a big crowd, A lot of
Doggies fans came down and at half time, what was
the scored half time?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was just full half time? Were down about twenty
or nails. Yeah, And something happened in the game and
I bumped Jack and run a couple of mates and said,
just get on the dogs straight away thirty one dollars.
And they were like, mate, don't be stupid, and I said,
just do it.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And Jack at his birthday right, and they had We're
in We're in BONDI I believe it. Of all places,
we never go there. And you look over and on
the screen you see first try from across the room,
the old man just dead eyed me. Second try, dead
eyed me, and I've gone the bus is going.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To get it. We're just dead on across the road.
I just Ricky raising the overse goun hmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Put on a bit of a show, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He played out Who was seb Chris?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Poor Chris.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You'll have nightmares about him?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What about? What about him? Before we talk about critic
you went into Origin camp.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I did. Yeah, I got the chance to go in.
It was really cool.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
What what'd you take that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah? It was awesome. It was awesome to kind of
get to know all the boys, kind of kind of
soak up the experience and just.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Kind of learn off Hawley what a champion.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, he was awesome. He's such an easy blot to
kind of talk to and he did a great job.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
What about Craig Bellamy? Do you have a conversation with Craig?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You had a brief convert not too much, but he
seems really cool as well.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Let me get a bit. You come up there, shook
your hands to congratulations where you're going.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's exactly what he said.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, that's the kind of guy he used.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I could see you now, he would love he'd love
to coach you, like you're right up his alley as
a player. But you know, I had dinner with Himole
last night as well, and he'd never even spoke to Craig,
and he said the exact same thing. He was like,
I didn't know how to take him or approach him
because I've watched him for so long and kind of
being like he's got a bit of a scary aura. Yeah, definitely,
you know, like you don't know how to cop him.
(26:48):
And he said the same thing. He's like that come
up and he was just the nicest bloke. I imagine
it'd be pretty sick for like a lot of those
boys who have never had anything to do with him
to it breaks down a little bit of a wall
because you've just been coached against him for so long.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, well, you've been coached against him, and you've also
kind of grown up watching him coach all his dominant teams,
So to kind of be able to meet him and
understand how he kind of works, it is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Was he very hands on? Did he get his hands
or did he kind of sit back like was he
talking in video? He just like just kind of sit
back and just let Laurie do his thing and then
just chime in if you had to. Yeah, it was
more so he just sat back and chimed in every
now and then. Laurie and the assistant coaches did the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Did you have the game pressod? They take you to
the game?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Na, So I left.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I was there from Tuesday to the Saturday a though,
and then they left to Brisbane on the Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So you you blokes were in there, of course for
the experience. You stand its cord. Did you do a
post against the team? Did they have you blows here?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah? So we kind of did a couple of opposed sessions.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
The weather.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
The weather. The first couple of days was horrendous at
Blue Mountains, and then we actually had to move training
to Penriff on the fourth day just because the weather
was so bad and we got some sun and some
sun finally and we got to They did like a
post session against Ride and I just jumped in the
right side and played against him.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, right, Yeah, when you're on the camp sometimes you
get a whole new appreciation of the guys you play against.
Who did you when you went in the camp firstly
on the field, who did you look at and just
go man like, who really stood out for you?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah? It was obviously all of the boys are pretty impressive,
but I think Nathan Cleary the way he goes about
his business is pretty special. And Isaiah how he kind
of addresses the group as well, and yeah, summarizes everything.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Nathan lots of extras.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, Yeah, he's the last man on the field always.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
What about like, because you said I've got so many
good backroll Like you were before your suspension, you were
being tossed up to be in the side as well,
you know, Angus Crichton, Liam Martin, Hudson Young was on
the bench, and then yourself and Dylan Lucas were kind
of being tossed up as well. What did you learn
from some of the other experience background was in there.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, just how they train as well, how they prepare
training like Angus Kricht and he goes one hundred percent
at everything, which is yeah, which I actually really like it.
I embrace that and probably take that to my training
now and kind of try and make sure I do
that as well. Yeah, cool to see.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Paul Samuel Walker Apparently it's just just hate it every
day because every day there's always someone at club level
who just goes like you want to go in and
you do your body sore, and there's always someone that's
going one hundred and ten percent when you're wanting to
go fifty At our club at Melbourne, it used to
be Dalphanuken would just like on a day where everyone
was sore, he just would still be sore, but he'd
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just want to kill everyone. Matt Lodge was that at
Manly as well, would just run and Ethan Bullymore Bitcoin
Bully Moore, you know Bullymore. He's I don't know, he
loves his but loves his big cooin. He's an accountant, by. Yeah,
he works at a firm every day, every day off
he goes in there.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And Harry on well unusual man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, he's quirky individual, but same thing Bull. I've never
seen anyone score so many tries at training, but they're
not in the game as many.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Tries, but Make scores a lot in the garden he does.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But at training. Mate, if you if if you watched
him at training, you'd think he's going to go out
and school eight tries.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
He scores a lot like push your support.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, because he reads me. You read he's a
stock man. You'd see he's a full stock man figures. Yeah,
he loves numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
What about blakes. Whenever you going to camp, you always
strike up a really good relationship someone like I'm in
Origin camp. I room with Lorry a couple of times
and made he was a dream roommate. Apart from the
fact used to walk around naked all the time. I heard, Yeah, neist,
total nudist. What about yourself when you went to camp,
was there anyone you really sort of went, yeah, you
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didn't think that, Like, well, you're surprised. What a good
bloke they were.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
All the fellows are really good fellas to be honest. Yeah, yeah,
everyone was really good fellas. I was hanging out Obviously
the Dogs boys are fair bit Gritter and Maxie King,
but I got to know all the boys really well,
and yeah, they're all really good fellas. And yeah, just
tried to take a lot from what they did at
training and their preparation and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Who wasn't who wasn't a good fellow. I'm a pretty
easy go I know, impressed those two. He's too good
of Blake. Wouldn't even if someone was an asshole, you'd
find a way to get along with him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That Stephen Crichton, I think he has got the his
trajectory at the moment, twenty four years of age. What
he's doing, he's on the trajectory to be like a
Malma Ninger type figure for you, Boke something his leadership.
(31:27):
Can you just give us some insight in the leadership
day by day?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, we'll get to experience origin camp kind of see
where he kind of picked some stuff off Yoe and stuff,
And I'm getting to see him do that at Woodogs
in Clubland every every day. Is pretty special. The way
he kind of connects the group through his through his words, obviously,
but also for his actions. Yeah, it's pretty cool to
be a part of.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
When he first went to the club, did he walk
Did he walk in straight away just have a presence
and took leadership.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah. I think he kind of came in a little
bit later just because of how Penrif had gone the
year before. But he walked straight into an army camp.
And I guess we were like we had captains and
like our leaders read in Berdo and stuff, Kingy, but
then Creator at the army camp just kind of just
blew everyone away with how he kind of handled it all.
(32:18):
And yeah, from there it's just yeah, I guess it's
that aura we.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Had zero on the potty. Uh that year after he
named Cruder as captain, and he actually said that army camp.
He'd never even thought Creta was in contention to really
be captain. He was looking at Berdo and Marnie and
then he said that army camp when he when he
watched him, how he came in, how we had the group,
how we communicated with everyone. That was when he was like, well,
I think credit has got to be our skipper.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah he was. It was actually incredible to kind of
kind of witness it and be part of it. He
kind of just brought everyone together, got everyone for everything.
And just like I said, connection, connection, like the way
he connects the group. I haven't really been I haven't
really experienced that before. I don't I don't know really
how to explain it. But he understands each individual for
who they are and knows how to get everyone connected.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And it isn't so important like not just on the field,
not just some dressing, but even just when you're out
on the training field, that connectivity, because when you're doing fitness,
I remember, if you got good leadership out there, everyone
drags each other along, Everyone looks after each other. And
I've found a lot of times with fitness, when you
do fitness almost as an individual pursuit and you ignore
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everyone else, it makes it ten times harder when you
actually take on the role of come on, presso let's go,
come on, coop, push, you know, Jack, come on, catch
up a little bit. It actually it actually makes everything
easier for everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That connection. It makes everything easier, but it also holds
everyone accountable. I guess that just rises the intensity and
I guess the level of fitness. Everyone's kind of get
into and yeah, it's something he's done.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, he seems like it seems like a bloke that
rarely gets tired. Like you can tell he's trained at
a high intensity for a long time. The difference between
the best teams and the worst teams is how the
best teams react when they're tired and under fatigue, right,
Like the communications. The first thing that goes when anyone's tired,
and you can tell crit is the blow that is
just he drills it into himself every day when he's
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tired in pre season, he just forces himself to talk.
So that's a comes habit.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He's constantly communicating at training or on the field like
it's just yeah, it's next level communication. And I think
that comes out on the field the way he defends.
I think you know that Origin most recent Origin game,
how he defended was pretty incredible, and I'd say it's
up there with one of the best Origin. You depend
alongside you heart yeah, oh yeah too.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah. Yet he what blows me away is sometimes a
ballger pinned out and the critter and and you winger
carraz and it's two on two with them and they're
on the attack, attack and him it'll be over like
a thirty minute space. A lot of times, you know,
players will feel rightfully feel isolated. He just goes bang,
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goes up there and just hits them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
No hesitation, doesn't panic, just back himself, which comes from
his preparation. He does it at training so he knows
that when it's time to do what he has to do,
he just use it backs himself.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's pretty sick like going historically, going from a lot
of the boys that left Penrith or even back in
the day that you would have seen like blokes that
used to leave like the Melbourne Storm when they had
the Big three there. They usually go. When they signed
a different club on more money, people go, oh, you
know they're going to make a big difference, and then
they kind of fall off a cliff. They rarely do
see him get better. I don't think one of recent times,
(35:29):
like when nicka Heinz left and he wanted the Dalim
the next year, Like it's very rare to see him
leave such a good club and then go get better.
Whereas critics like crit is another one left Penrith off
the back of a couple of premierships. You and you go,
is he going to get better? Or is he going
to sort of plat o out leaving such a good club.
But he's just gotten better and better every year.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah. Just I think he's put it down to his
work ethic, how hard he's willing to train, the amount
of preparation he does, the amount of a video he does. Also,
it's yeah, it's that elite level. And yeah, I guess
when he goes down in the field, that shows.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And the bloke, as far as performance is concerned, in
the last thirty months, it's not too far off him.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Who.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think he's been a revelation. In fact, I think
he could. I think he could play Straight of Origin.
State of Origin now if you needed him. Was Bronson
Cherry Bronson, Cherry has burned. He's just Buren fantastic for
you blokes, great finisher, great work ethic, you know, obviously
a bloke who works hard off the field.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, definitely, Bronson has been awesome. Obviously, he came back
from Fay to time out and as soon as he
got to the club he just had this willingness to
rip in and he got he got there, he did
all the hard work and then I guess critic came
a couple of weeks later and has helped him heaps
as well in terms of defensive movements and stuff. But yeah,
he's been great for us. He does a lot of
the dirty work people don't really see at times, but
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us players on the field do see that, and we
really do appreciate that. And yeah, that's pretty pretty cool
to have them both.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We had just had a car a few weeks ago
on the potty, and you just sparked my memory of
what he said when you would have been there this
year Whence Critic came to the club, they particularly the
defensive movements on the edge. Zero had a system that
he knew worked leaving leaving Panoris, but you guys worked
so hard at it for so long, but it never
(37:16):
really clicked. It wasn't until Critter came and showed you
guys like it actually works and showed you guys how
to sort of do it. Did you experience that as well?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, definitely. I feel like in twenty twenty three, some
of us trusted the system and I was probably didn't
showed enough respect, I guess. And the system relies on
everyone going after it and everyone kept doing their job.
But then when Critic came, we kept working at it,
and we had players buy into it at all, players
brought into it, and for it to work, everyone has
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to be buying into it. And then yeah, him just
showing I guess outside backs that they sticked to it
with the process that it will it will work out.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So it's very honest for Josh Josh Josh Ocari gas
men were working on it, gains, but even I wasn't
sure I was going. I was just gonna it. But
he certainly he certainly turned that around a couple of
those us. I'm gonna ask a few questions here before
I do. How's Gus going good?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I was good.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, he's done. He's done a remarkable job now with
a number of clubs club He doesn't get credit for
the Wars. Remember he had about six months of he
went over there. He was that behind the scenes, did
recruiting for him and tidy a few things up in
their organization and left. But he had a fair impact there.
Does when the boys have a win? Does he ever?
(38:35):
Because what we used to do in Origin it sounds weird.
I find it sort of weird that players these days
would do it, but we used to, right, everyone, let's
go get around the piano and we get a blake
pulled the piano out and we all just sit around
with with books. Gus hand out with shoot and we
just we reheard the words typed out for all the
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songs we want to see like piano man like that.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Really?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, great tracks was for it was at least sick
for sing along.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I'd love a sing along. But it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He hasn't done it.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
No, no not.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You got to get on to it. Yeah, get on him,
say Gus, come on mate, he made his You got
to get the piano and do some single.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Where did you get the piano from? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You're in Belmore. I'm pretty sure they can find it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Is he is?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
He kind of scary?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh, he's one of those guys that has that aura
about him some other I guess Craig Bellamy, you kind
of grow up in their massive figures in the game.
And I remember when I first met him when I
was I was at the Roosters at the time, and
he's looking to bring me able to the dogs, and
I remember how nervous I was walking into Jabelle's Cafe,
which is in Bellmore there, and I was just like well,
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it's sat down with him and feel good. Yeah, it's
crazy and he still has that aura to this day.
To be honest, I don't think that will ever change.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You could give a blasts coach ninety five origin third game,
we're playing them up in Queensland and they'll beating us
at halftime, and I've beat us at full time. But
it'd been a nod serious with the Super League war
and Gus had sort of been distracted. He'd been dragged
from here, left, right and center. And the first two
games that he got beid he was sort of philosophical.
(40:13):
A third game, by half time he had an half
and just got there and just went around the group
and just came right out you know what I do?
He goes, I just look at this group?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
And just took everyone and he went to a million
and goes, mate, have you ever fucking done a two
on one? You're fucking out there, you're going through it's
a fuck on two and one, and to give it
early and he just goes round, just giving it to Blakes.
And he got to one of the players last and
he goes, and you last, He said, yous mate, I
sit there every fucking morning and once you come downstairs
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for breakfast, your fucking hair's never done, your breath steaks.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Do you have any silf respect at all? Jesus nippicking
towards the end.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, a black guy played with a Newcastle who ended
up going down in there Penrith. He had a tough time,
he didn't play well, out of form and he wasn't
he admits himself. He said he wasn't really toe on
the line. And he said he got there once playing
Newcastle at Penrith and Gus just come into the sheds
at halftime and he goes, he come here and pulled
his wallet out, got a heap of coins and just
(41:14):
threw the man and said, get the fucking train back
to Newcastle.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You're done.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I remember the year when I left Melbourne and signed it.
Mainly right before I signed it, mainly I met with
Syra camp Serroundo at that cafe.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
It was how stupid, zero, how dumb of you. Anyway,
he goes, mate, me jo Bell's tomorrow, me and Gus
will be there and I was like sweet, and I
was kind of like and I don't know. You used
to work with Gus quite a bit at Channel nine,
but I don't know if I if I met him.
I was really young. I can't remember meeting him. So
I was kind of nervous because obviously he's I got
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an aura around him, and I was like, sort of
hype myself up all day. I don't get too nervous
to meet me. People just kind of nervous that I've
gone in, right. I thought about a couple of jokes
to sweeten it up. Walked in and it's just Row.
Then I went, oh, where's Gussie. Guess no, they just
texted me. Then he said, no, you can do it
on your own. That must have gave you the feeling that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Said.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I was like, okay, so Ciro's just CIO's just taken.
This meeting is a charity meeting, and there's no chance
of getting you signed to this club. To be fair,
they had thirty two players signed in their top thirty
at this stage. They actually had to cull two or
three people.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Isn't a wonderful, but that's a wonderful excuse in this
surly cap age. Mate, we're desperate to sign you, we
can't fit, we haven't got a spot left or the
salary cap iss squooze are hard, brother.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, it's the best way you can get away with murder.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, on your teammates, yep, give us some insights for
the Doggies fans. Who's the fastest in the squad?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
The fastest? I think Bronson, Yeah, I think in precesson
you've got the fastest time. Roger for bree take a bow,
Roger strongest, Oh, pound for pound to be Curtis Myron. Oh, yeah,
he's Yeah, he's little beast. He's a little beast in
the gym. You met the old man, you met his
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dead his uncle Brad, his uncle Brad.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Good here. He's a tough player, very very good player.
Good fella too, really good fellow, bad head, bad head
on it. But you don't get a little Blake. Look
at Blake's head and you don't like. But he bucked
that train. He was a good fella.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Most annoying team mate, Oh, most annoying. Like I said,
I'm pretty nice. I just throw Harry Hayes under the
bus we drive together, so you can be honest. I
love listening to Maxicans.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Sometimes I've got I went back to you know, when
you go back to your camera roll, just go back
and just like reminisce on some years.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
We've just got some the funniest videos of King. He
just in his budget smugglers in the sheds, just chewing
everyone's ears off. He was just reminded me how big
a pest he was when we all went on a
team trip to Bali as well. Yeah I've heard about
I really have heard about that trip. Yeah, yeah, those
were Nelson started to punch someone's face. Mate, King he
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was he was, he was so funny man, he was
just he was driving him. He's such a good good
for Team Raley vibe. But if you get him on it,
if you're in a bad mood on a day and
King corners, oh it's a long day.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Who's the most okay, who's there's obvious places who are
really skillful. Who's a bloke that would who surprises you?
Trained with the dogs as far as their skills consumed, I.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Say it wouldn't surprise me. But Bailey Hayward's very skillful
and he puts a lot of work into it. He's
a good touch footy player, right, yeah, he was growing
he growing up is really good. Yeah, I've heard stories.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Got played against him back in touch.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
You've played against everyone in touch.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Footy though under fifteens or something, because one of the
boys said, we was playing the other day and they
were like, we played against him up at State Cup somewhere.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, up in Port Macquarie. Skillful player, very skillful and
yeah he's obviously he was a touch back background. It
kind of kind of helps.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, skill, but he should tip offizes those players in
your middle field and like Kurt that can do a
bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, can play a variety of different positions, and he's
been doing a really good job for us this year.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
How's Kirk going, Jack is a question because I know Kurk,
but I don't know him well. Killer a bit of
an odd ball Jack, odd ball.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
No, No, he's a good fella, Kurt. He's a good fella.
A bit old school Killers old school that's what I
me and him got along with it well because he's
he's he's yeah, he's a bit more old school. He's funny,
sort of lad. He's maybe getting on along in the
tooth now. He might be one of the oldest in
the club.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He's the oldest. He's the oldest. He was actually my
roommate last year, was Killing. He's from the middle of
nowhere in Queensland.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, from Collinsville.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, well, I know is there's like a dinosaur museum there.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's a random thing, Jack. Can you google where they
might be a dinosaur museum in.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Queen Winter Winston, that's the one Winter.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
And you know he's a good bike and a good
teammate because he's always been want to help his teammates out,
you know, I mean up in Newcastle, was helping Kat
a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Less leave that one alone. Teachers pet like zero apart
from Critter, who's like, who's always.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
You know, teachers pet. I wouldn't say that teachers teachers
Petre's there's a couple of boys are really good relationships,
like his son.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Who's the whol now? Who is a term using used
in wrestling, which is someone who is the bad guy
or people take the piss out of all the time,
who's the who's the whipping boy?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, I'll cop I'll cop that wrap myself. I find
myself under the bus?
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Are you joking? How dare they do that to the
nicest guy?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Sometimes I probably deserve some of it, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
It keeps right now just quite just up that you
know how everybody says, oh, you know, who would you
want to date your sister? Who's a nice spoke in
the NL, and everyone goes Jake Turovitch all the time.
I'll tell you right now, Presto, after this, I think
you're going to take that title. I didn't realize just
how nice you were until we've come on.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Here, let's bringing a Let's bring a cousin, Kate.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
It's actually a dating show.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I just finished, just to finish with Presto. Now a
little bit more about yourself. Who's support growing up?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah? I was a Manly fan obviously, growing up on
Norm Beaches. So and me and we were very dominant
at the time. Kind of seven to thirteen fourteen was
kind of the peak of their power.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
It was your favorite player.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I used to love Bred Stewart obviously and Jamie Lyon,
but then I got to know Chuck everything what mos
throughout the years as well.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
He took Quirky cat.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
A good players during that here were fifty fifty's Jamie Lyne.
You talk about, you know, best presence being coming. I
don't know it's going to say ugly wrapping. It's not
the right but you look at him and you go
and then as soon as the ball hits his hands
and everything, he's just yeah, junius football.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
He would have played a lot more kind of rep games.
I think he stopped playing for a bit there as well.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
He just he just got to the point he said,
I don't need it and he was happy being a
club football. I got a bit of criticism at the time,
but at the end of the day he just goes.
I just I love playing football, love playing with the mates,
and that's why I did. I mean, he quit Paramatta
and went for twelve months, went back to we War
and just did pig shooting and played for the local side.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I think I think Bozo and those books at Manley
basically had to go out there and convince him to
come to Manley. I think he was happy just.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
To not to stay out there.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I'm pretty sure he was happy.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, he came back to Manley. He went to St Helens. Yeah, yeah,
James Grahams so he turned up and they went look
at this bloke like he's he's been basically strapped himself
to the Sizzler buffet for the last six months. And
then they he said, mate, listen'd fitness nearly lapping him,
and as soon as they started to do boor work
and everything, they just went, oh my god, look at
this guy.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Because you're a man. You played Did you play Howard
mats and SG ball at Manley?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I played all my junior reps for the North in
the beersh did you play it?
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But they didn't get you here.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I played one development game and was ball average and
really didn't really get an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
It seemed like there was a late developer, right, Yeah
I was.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I was for sure.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, probably didn't start growing that much until I was
about sixteen seventeen. How Matt's at the time was sixteen.
But I was definitely smaller kids.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Manly's all but always been in love with. They love
the biggest kids at the younger stage. Sometimes they missed,
they missed some blokes falling through the crack.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
So that's pressed her talk a couple before who they've
missed out on, who they've missed of late that's gone.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Through the Sammi v Sami Verrels.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Semi Verels. But who was just before to Marlay?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I didn't even know he was a local until
until recently.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Cramer Kingfish.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I didn't, Yeah, because his mum has the barbershop. She cuts,
she owns a barbershop, she does Auntie Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
And Keyle Weeks, Yeah he was he was a manly
played first grade so my first yeah, they let him go. Yeah,
my first ever Bears game. Me and Kyle were halves,
half partners really under fifteen. Yeah you play half. I
was playing five at the time. I played how Mates
at five eight and I broke my leg.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
And you know what press out when you just said
that about North Sydney. I've soon you play for North
Sydney somewhere. I don't know where it was, but I
actually when you say about North Sydney, I've soon you play. Yeah,
soon you played there. I don't know where it was.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
You might have been at Harrod Matt when I was
at s G Ball maybe.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, I played all my actually played power Matt's STU
Ball flag and then Cup with North Sydney, so played
he might have.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
You might have had a call from the Bears.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah mate. Yeah, what a great advertisement. Twenty seven ladies.
In January, the Dogs Tical Sun returns.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Stay of the Dogs. I think you're about to win
a few Premiership a pressed Thank you so much mate,
and we said this before your congratulations mate, on what's
going on in your career, how you handle yourself off
the field, and mate, good luck against the Earls.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Thank you so much for Thanks Christo, thanks for finding replying,
thanks for having me on list.
Thanks guys, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, we love you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I had nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
With that, mate, No, who cares.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, Jacob, thanks for coming over me. No worries, mate,
thank you going me on and finally got out of you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, it's a big talking point. Presto.
My message Pressto reckoned a month ago, just before his suspension.
He was like, yeah, bloody, he only lives up the road.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Bloody.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I THO keenurs come on? And then and I was like,
he's keen to go on. Sometimes you get the vibe
where someone's not yea, Presto, mate, let's get over, let's
get in there. And then boss, it was like the
earth had just ended and Presto had gone underground.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Or suspensions do that?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, well I don't know if they do. And then
he he must be you must be a hard blow
to date.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. I think I text my misses a bit better
than I've got back to you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So I was gonna say, if you're better than doing that,
because she would have left you pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Quick if I tear what YouTube blokes in the same room. Wow,
I mean I remember the day Bo, what you was
that made both for manly you and yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, Brook, you over your bulldog's day. Mark. Yeah, he
come on off the bench and you sub someone off
quite quickly too. They must have blown out of steam.
Joey Simpson, Nah, I think Ray might have gone to
the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And then I moved into the.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Of course, and your parents were sitting next to me.
That was a weird thing. Yeah, I'm in there watching
and then I heard him. Your mum must have mentioned
your name and I looked over and someone told me, oh,
that's Jacobs. Yeah, played well too. He did play well.
He played really really good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Didn't didn't break any tackles.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It was a tough day, but you guys prettle bit
of a score on us.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But isn't it funny how far the club has come.
I remember that that first day it was like Ciro's.
It was Siro's first game. He charged with all this
hope and I thought you guys were strong in the
first twenty minutes, but you just sue the combination. They
hadn't form like Berdo and Villi Army were oil and water.
They couldn't get their combination going. But usually come a
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long way to see them.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Jacob, Yeah, definitely. I think the obviously we didn't start
too well in twenty The first game wasn't too good,
but I think the first five rounds of twenty twenty
three after that we actually played some half decent footy.
We beat Melbourne and Melbourne and that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Then the year kind of went downhill from there, But
twenty twenty four and onwards it's, yeah, it's definitely gone
up here.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You can see like it takes people sometimes when they
get like a star player overt all club or like
a new coach and they want instant success. It's like,
we've got this boat, now we're going to kill it.
That was a bit like that year with the Dogs,
where it was like you guys had Foxy come over,
Birdo kickout and everyone was like that, they're going to
make an instant impact. But it takes. It takes at
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least a couple of years to get like combinations people.
I think people underestimate how long it takes to actually
get a group to understand each other as players.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, definitely, I think that twenty twenty three year it
was a lot of kind of learning new systems. Obviously
some of the boys had you've been under zero at
Panriff but for a lot of the boys at the club,
there's a lot of learning the system and some kind
of I guess couldn't really get their heads around it.
But yeah, another year on twenty twenty four, it kind
of started to click. And now this year it's got
even better.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Jacobs and guys. It's not just even like understanding each
other's games, understanding the angles to run, how you like
to receive the ball, all those things. It's as very
simple sometimes as just catching another person's pass. I always
say a pass every playmaker's pass has. It's like a
thumb print. Everyone's just slightly different. And I remember playing
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for it with Andrew for a long time and then
go to a different halt for inormation and the ball
just dips a little bit different. Other people throw at
a certain angle. All those kinds of things you've got
to get used to, you know, Hence the importance of
your school works relentlessly over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, even some hearts like catching a little bit wider
or closer to the rock. So just been tough sitting
on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I imagine I'm telling you they're missing you that that last game,
you know, forty four forty four to six, you have
that Dolphins game. I can see they're really missing you
out there. Mate. For you, what do you? What do
you do as far as when you're suspended and you're
able to run and do everything? What's it? What's the
typical week for you at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, and I'm definitely missing being out there and I
can't wait to get back when you got one more
game now. But yeah, because it's quite a long stint.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I didn't think they gave you enough suspension.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, the eye gouging.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Because it was quite a long stin kind of been
like a little mini preseason, I guess. So the boys
got a couple of days off during the by round
last week, but I've been in most days training hard
and Travy Tumar.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Oh it's bloody tough, isn't it. Rehab rehab trainings is
a lot harder. I mean, sorry, suspension training overheal training.
When you're not trained with the main group a lot
of the time because they're playing, it is to they
flogged out.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They might match them, so like it's pretty much like
planning getting the same columber as you're doing the game.
But you're just doing like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Aimless running and I put it up a little bit
closer to the Yeah there, I'm really on the bit.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
My radio sensibility is kicking a big game against Paramounta
two traditional rivals up against each other. You know a
lot about the history of these two clubs up against
each other.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
In the eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, a huge and the massive battle the including.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The fact that when Paramuter won the first premiership in
nine to eighty one, the fans burnt the old Cumberland
Oval green Sea into the ground. So that's when they
had to build so where Paramount of Stadium was now
it's so combank. Yeah there used to that used to
be a ground called Cumberland Oval, had a green sea
in there and it was it was run down, it
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was like decrepit and when they won them their first
ever competition, the fans just burnt it to the ground.
Hence they had to build a new ground which which
would become Paramouter Stadium and now Combink. But in that
about five I think it was six years, they had
to share the ground more over with the Bulldogs. Yeah,
so you had the two powerhouse sides playing out of belmore.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So it's like what it's like Penrith and Power this
year right come back? Yeah, Wow, Wow. Who would you
say is the biggest rivalry, like, because it feels like
Bulldogs have a rivalry like everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, a lot of clubs, but I'd say probably Big Power.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And then obviously Good Friday was always a big game.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's a big it's a Jacob. It's such a great club.
And I'm saying that because you're here, say the people,
it's such a great club. When the Newcastle Knights coming
in ninety eight, we stole your players, we stole your coaches,
We tried to steal your culture, everything about it, like
the Newcastle Knights, the foundations of that club. You know,
we're if you had an architecture looking after but we
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had the same architect as you, Blake, So we tried
to copy that culture and it's it. And there's certain
there's certain things I always find about a Bulldogs player,
like toughness, you know, not really think about playing around
and opposition more play through short ball, playing all those
little things that I think have just stayed in the
culture of the club for such a long time. And
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bellmore oval Man I tear in the nineties playing a
Bill Moore oval. It was, it was it was wild.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, Bellmore was incredible. I've played a couple of games,
been lucky enough to play a couple of games there now,
and it just seems every time we like every game,
next time we play at Belmo, it gets bigger and bigger.
There was a game there against Camber last year and look,
it was crazy at the stadium, but then on the
streets that the main street of it was going off
like crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, do you find that, Like you're a kid from
the northern beaches, Like you see the scenes over in
Belmore after you guys win and it's just like DJ's
in the streets, like Belmore is basically shut down. It's
like every week's a Grand Final like it basically it
looks like how Liverpool is at the moment when they
when they win the football, like they shut the streets down.
There's like flares going off, like it's insane. Is that
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like just crazy for you being out there?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is, It's crazy. It's definitely different what I've kind
of grown up. But then go on and get and
be part of it. It's so special and I say
it all the time, but we have the best fans
in the game and to make them happy. It's unreally,
they are.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
A loyal fan. Like someone was telling me the other
day one of the boys who went to the Bulldogs
and then a few years later ended up leaving. He said,
when he went to and this is a very modern
take on this, when he went to the Dogs, he
gained like twenty thousand social media followers straight away and
he said when he left, they all unfollowed him. Yeah,
it shows how loyal these fans are, like to get
(08:30):
around their players, like the boys that are there. The
fans just get around you and build you up so much.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They support you no matter what. Yeah, they're very loyal.
But yeah they give your stuff, They give your presents
and stuff at fans honey stuff. I got given a
shirt the other day, like just at a fan signy.
Think it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's good. So that area defined by the football team
in a lot of ways, you know, and vice versa
is the fans and the people of that community they draw,
they draw a steam soff esteem by how the football
side's going. It's just it's just insane and do you
know what pressure There's been a lot of tough years
with the Bulldogs and it's not nice going, you know,
(09:06):
when you've got the foot in your throat all the
time and you're scrapping away. But it's not bad sometimes
for a club to experience that, to experience a little
bit of time down there, because then when you rise again,
like new blokes have done, everyone appreciates the more you know,
and it just sends a certain buzz through the community.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, definitely for sure. Like like I was saying in
twenty twenty three, it's kind of the opposite end of
the spectrum. It was very very much as struggle towards
the back end there. We had a game against Newcastle
sixty six nil and that was definitely tough times. But
to see where we've come come from and who we're
at now, and then the crowds and stuff slowly built
up along the way, it's very special.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You see. Like those young blokes who like the Boys,
are the young fellows that went into that Penricide who
started winning comp like Burdo Critter, they come into a
team where you almost expect every year it's going to
come kind of easy and you're going to win a
Grand Final every year, Like a lot of you guys
at the Dogs have come in at a time where
you understand how hard it is to not just make
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the top eight, but to like get to a Grand final,
like to get to finals. Now, I imagine you boys,
it's something that will stop you boys being complacent, Like
even though he's are at the top end of the ladder,
you're not taking it for granted like a lot of
his teams can do sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Nah, for sure, we know we've done nothing yet, like
kind of learned a lot from last year. We kind
of went on a bit of a run there and
got to the finals and we kind of burnt out.
I guess a little bit. It wasn't really how we
wanted to end the year and to kind of put
a fire under our belly to go bigger and better
this year. And I think it's pretty evident with how
we're training and you're not getting complacent at all.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
This is going to be a mega game against Earls
because Eels are really starting to form. You can see that, Rosies,
all the stuff that Rosey tried to put in those
early rounds with Mitchell Moses coming back in the side,
you can see that, you know, all the things like
something last week, you know, Jacob looking at some of
their little attacking sequences and players were very very classy.
Yonge's starting to really pick up and find himself. It's
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going to be a cracking game. What sort of crowd
are we expecting.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
They're trying to beat the Good Friday crowd, which was
sixty five thousand. That's their goal. Well, they're doing the
ten dollar tickets again did on Good Friday. That's their
goal wherever they get there, and I'm not too sure,
but it would be pretty crazy to see that was
the biggest regular season crowd ever?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Is that at a call, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, you don't get like they get it at Origin
and Finals, but you'd always see when you watch a
cor on TV and you see like half one side's full,
the camera goes the other side, it's just completely empty.
That game when you just played Good Friday, that was
chaos A like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It was incredible. We kind of we kind of walked
out of the hotel as well as before the game,
we stayed at the Pullman and the Bulldogs kind of
organized a fan get together like, so we walked out
the hotel when the scenes were incredible, it was like
see your people one hundred meters worth of people just
fully bulldogs, kid it up, cheering us on. And it
was very cool experience as well. And we're told you
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kind of just.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Embrace it the call walk. So what happen on day game?
Do you boys stay at the hotel near Homebush the
night before?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, and then so that you're starting that tradition where
you walkers turning through the fans to the stadium.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, Well that was for Good Friday. We don't
do that every week, okay, but yeah, that was obviously
a big occasion and we wanted to embrace the big
crowd and kind of get a taste of it. So yeah,
that was very special. And but yeah we do we
stay out there before games as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ye right, yeah, it's a good policy. I just love
staying away the nothing. It's YouTube and I love you.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think it gets you a good night's sleep. Do
you have a roomy? Do you guys do roomy? Still?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I haven't had a roomy, kind of swapped and changed
a couple, but.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I've had who's been this year?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Harry Hayes is how interesting character, but he's a great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So Harry Hayes, He's he's not the one who only
debuted this year, right.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
He debuted last year, but he's been in the team
ever since. Yeah, yeah, he's been going really well. Actually
he's actually living at Baga.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So you see other the Northern Meachs as well.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, he's a Central Coast boy, but he's he's moved
down to here and moved to Canal for a bit,
but he's living Baga.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now what's he what's we about him? He's got any
weird superstitions, No, no superstitions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
He's just an interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Humor.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah said humor, but is talking about weird sense of humors?
Max King one of the great How he is so
undercover funny, Like he's so funny for a bloke who
kind of like seems unassuming and very quiet, and then
once he gets comfortable in a group, you can't stop
him from talking.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Can't he spin a yarn? But like, honestly, I was
quickly say I want to give a massive shout out
to Maxie because he's origin Deaby. Was so good to
see Bloody on real and yeah, so happy for him.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Got it wrapped for him too when Laurie put him on,
like the first was first change. Yeah, he came on.
Of course I didn't kick off to Spencer, kicked off
the Max. He says, I don't know what it says
more about Spencer Max but less. But he's terrific.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh man, he's such good and we were at Melbourne together.
But he when he heard his achilles, it was like
borderline retirement, like king, he was. He was so like
low mentally he was. He do like nine months of rehab,
come back first run and he just gets so much
pain in it again that he couldn't even like they
just couldn't. They just had him on a what bike
for so long and he was like so the physios
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didn't even know what to do. They were like, we
don't know how to fix this. It's so it's actually
a miracle that he's even back on the field playing.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The other thing about Max is and everybody's different, everyone
has their different bullies. But he is a man of faith.
He says that all the time. For him to go
through a really difficult period like that, there must have
been times that he was questioning going, oh like you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, to help me or what yeah, yeah, I know
what you mean, I know what you mean. He's a
big believer. I think he gives a lot of Well
I've seen his partner come out even when he made
his day Bill and was like, obviously they're very into
their faith and they gave a lot of that sort
of gratitude back to God.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Good on him.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Since you've been to church, me in school, probably since school.
We impressed. They went the same school. It was a
Catholical Christian.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Ridden right yeah, okay, well okay, what were.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You doing rest? They can't read all right?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, you're a few years younger than me because I
was in your brother's year.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Dana was in your ye.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, actually saw your old man at seven eleven the
other day. Yeah, but your you have a youngest brother
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yes, it would have been my stepdad.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah but yeah, yeah, yeah he would have come up.
I was young in him for ages.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah he's a good fellaw.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, I was for you. Hey, what's ages for you?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The chat? Yeah, we sat there probably forty five minutes
in the seven eleven minutes are.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Forty five minutes and the seven eleven Yeah, we're there
for mate.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We were there for ages. We were literally spinning yards
for so long like that with people because we just
filled up and there was cars like banking up behind
where our cars were filling up and just like waiting
for us to leave.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, let's the conversation, can you.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A lot of it was about Jacob, and then we
started talking about Dane, who I went to school with.
He was in my age. And then we started talking
to your youngest and he was telling me how much
you love footy. He had like footy he had. I
think he had bulldog shorts on.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Actually he actually last year was the ball boy for
the dogs. But was he He actually tackled at Streaker,
but yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Streaker like he's like eight or nine? Though?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Is he he's fifteen?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Now fifteen? She's not a bad judge of I cannot
pick kids age anymore. I was watching these kids trained
down at Cholera the other day and I was watching
train for ages and I was like, how good are
these guys going? Like I thought they were under seventies
because they look quite big. They were like under eleven's
The kids are getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sure yeah, yeah, sure good on them.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Eating the old church talking about that before, I just
I think the only time I go to church to
these days is funerals, even weddings. I sort of way
to get there, sort of stayed head towards the back.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, pretty morbid, pretty morbid thing to bring up your.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Sure, you know, as you get older, you know, as
you get older and you sort of you get off
more of the depressing sort of things. I find drinking
after a funeral is actually fun the way I wouldn't
say the word be fun. I'd probably get more of
a shine or a buzz, like you know, they get
that sort of feeling that comes of it's hard to explore.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, I suppose, like me and pressed those age right now,
it's like birthdays and weddings is like the big events
I suppose for you, Like you're done really celebrating birthdays
and weddings. Your only real time to get together as
a group is funerals. So that I suppose is like
your weddings now.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right, man, that's true, It's it's actually it's actually very
very true. Yeah, yeah, it is actually quite depressing. You
get there sometimes. But but I didn't mean that when
you go to twenty first or stuff there or weddings
and that you have a beer afters. But when you
go to a funeral and everyone's emotions are on edge
and things are down there. After a few beers, everything
(17:42):
just really starts to pack up. Well, Hence wedding crashes.
Wedding crashes compared to Chaz, you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Haven't seen wedding crashes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I have, But yeah, Will Ferrell's characters, so Vince fitz
Vawn and Owen Wilson their characters. They crash weddings to
pick birds, ladies and uh, and they come across Will Ferral.
He's a bandoned weddings. He goes, man, I've got a funerals.
He goes, women there are so hard.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I should watch it. Press that's good.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I did I remember watching him?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I was, yeah, watching tonight watch last Treament watch it is.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Now impressed it now pressed her. Let's now, let's keep
this tight. You know, I absolutely understand. I'm just going
to ask you this. I'm not going to ask you
about what position he may play against Paramatt or anything
like that. Lachlan Galvin, how's he how's he doing?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he's only been in for a couple of days,
but he's been really good. He's a really nice fella.
He's been ripping in at training and he's really can
learn all the systems and stuff, and yeah, he's a
really good kid.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Impressed her with the football.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, definitely lots of skill there, lots of it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Looks like you played against him a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I actually had never played against him. Last time we
played the Tigers, I was injured, which was last year,
and I haven't had the chance.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You didn't play one thirty. A lot to you more
three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What's because he's got what I want to talk about
it because you've you're known, you had a lot of
great haircuts and the Bulldogs, right, you have an excellent haircut.
The Northern Beach is mullet, it's great. A bit of
blonde through it. I'm sure you squirt lemon and when
you're when you're home alone. Lachlan Garvin's haircut now it's
making a lot of headlines at the moment. Is is
he copying flak at training because he looks at it's
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like the bowl cut.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is it too early to take the fish out of it?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I saw that picture with the ball cut, but it
doesn't look that bad in person.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So yeah, yeah, might have just been a bad day.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, it might have been a bad Engle woman too,
sure of view commercials, you.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Know, but yeah it looks like Lloyd Christmas Fro dumb
and dumber.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He does.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
He's got that in there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
He does. Any of the boys, like any any piss
take or anything like that going on in practical jokes
on him?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah no not yet, Yeah, now yet they'll come. Yeah,
they'll come, for sure, they will.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, who gets who is like the practical joker in
the squad? Who gets on top of like like those
are kind of awkward situa iss when everyone's like, oh hey,
Lachla must whos the one that breaks the ice?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah? Creat is a man and he's awesome and kind
of breaking the ice and making everyone feel comfortable. We
think he's done amazing jobs since he came in doing
that and he connects the group.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Is Turps there, Jakie Turpin as well. He's one of
the great ice breaker.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I've never met him before. And then I was at
a at a pub in Brisbane. There was a long
lineup and Coopers Mate, there's bloke just out the front
of Mate out the front. He wants he wants to
know can you get him in? I looked out and
it was a little pumpkinheaded turban tine, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, So I think that was a magic round or
something and weird, weird sort of night for Terps, dad
and I. It was karaoke at this bar and brizzy
and it also managed to come inside with sex Bow.
So I don't know if if you ever heard of
sex Bow pressed, it's a perfect and it was like
it's like a convention where like basically like couples and
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just whoever's like really into that sort of thing go
there and at the bar when we're all doing karaoke,
it's like the whole of sex Bow would come into
this this pub and for whatever reason, I don't know
how it came up. I don't know if Terps had
been telling everyone in the thing, but they all thought
me and Terps were dating. All the couples in at
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sex Bo it's.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
A strange conclusion to reach one a northern hotel.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But we were sitting around having a beer and then
like this guy she was asking terms like how long
we'd be together, and I was like what, and Turfs goes, oh,
like just to start coming because they're all in there,
and like the kinky sort of couples and terms have
been saying the medium been dating for like three years.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, that was. It happened to me and Joey once.
We were out once and Blake come up and go,
you guys partners and we're like, what, I've got a
better taste than that. I mean, we have sex, but
we are from cesnoch.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
You know that is very true.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Last thing, unlock you can. I asked you did he
has he did? They ask him to address the group?
Do you address the group in any way, shape or form,
not asking for the contents? No, no, no, no, just
got on.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Gott got in and trained and yeah, it's been been
really good.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Look do you look nervous?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I think it would have been. It's like anyone's
first It's kind of like your first day of school.
You're always nervous. But the boys got around him and.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You guys got like a pretty mad It looks like
from the outside looking and he's a mad close group,
particularly this year. It looks like you celebrate every wind,
you celebrate all the tries. It looks like anyone gets
pushed over, you guys back them up and try to
fight whoever it is is. Do you like I suppose
it's a professional sport, Like you all get on with it.
But do you feel like is that like putting is
(22:22):
Galvin coming like affecting anyone's like head or anything. Everyone's
pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, everyone's sweet. Everyone just gets on with it. Yeah,
Like like you said, we're really connected and we're just
welcome in, welcomed him in. So yeah, it go out
there and ye're welcome and it's been really good.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You get there sometimes within clubs and people on the
outside will say, oh, mate, this is what's going in
the club is obviously really expecting the group. From my experience,
players just get on with it, you know what I mean. Yeah,
you just you get on with the game.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's like when it's like when players, it's like when
fans go, how could he sign for this club in
twelve months time? But all the boys are off him
and it's like no one, no one ever cares.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You all getting a new contract, that's fine, No one ever.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I've never seen someone go, mate, go up to someone
and go like pressed, I can't believe you signed for
them next year. That's it, Like no one ever really
gives the ship's.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah a presser, how's Cameron how's coach soeraldo going? Has
he turned into a coach? Hit? Yeah, because I don't
think you're not a first grade coach unless you become
angry and paranoid.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Is he is?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He same old sera, same old zero.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Definitely not angry your parently with it all.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, he's very calm and collected. And yeah, he's been
awesome so far. I've kind of had him my whole career.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And yeah, I was talking to Maxi King and Toby
Sex when they come on the Sunday Show about a
month or so ago, and was after the Broncos game
with a bad loss, and he said at halftime, which
you know, thirty odd thirty od neils how Siro and
he goes, mate, he was that calm. She was that calm.
In fact, he was so calm and talking about what
we had to do on the second half. He said,
we came out after half time went ashually, we can
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turn this around and maybe be these blokes now that's yeah, yeah,
that's that's that's sort of coach. You can do that conventure.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
We had full confidence we could have come out in
that second half and won the game. And I think
we put eighteen points on in that second half, and
we fully believe you could. And yeah, just the way
he addresses the playing group really simplifies it, dumbs it down,
and it was just on us to go out there
and do it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
What about the Raiders game?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
That was incredible?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It was incredible?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, do you play that? Was that your first week?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
First week's?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, it's considering like, how could the Raid particularly like Raiders.
They're in the top four, Raiders aren't. They're on a
team that they're out of the bottom ete and they're
beating you by eddy and you come back. Raiders are
a proper Premiership contender now this year.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Turn our men up here for a second. We'll tell
pressed about what took place. Give me five jackair mate.
Me and Jack got a story about the Raiders Dogs
Remember that night.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, they are leading to the game.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
The old man just kept saying to me, I've got
a really good feeling that the Dogs this weekend because
I think Camera were favorites and it was a big
game Camera. It was a big crowd, A lot of
Doggies fans came down and at half time, what was
the scored half time?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was just full half time? Were down about twenty
or nails. Yeah, And something happened in the game and
I bumped Jack and run a couple of mates and said,
just get on the dogs straight away thirty one dollars.
And they were like, mate, don't be stupid, and I said,
just do it.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And Jack at his birthday right, and they had We're
in We're in BONDI I believe it. Of all places,
we never go there. And you look over and on
the screen you see first try from across the room,
the old man just dead eyed me. Second try, dead
eyed me, and I've gone the bus is going.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To get it. We're just dead on across the road.
I just Ricky raising the overse goun hmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Put on a bit of a show, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He played out Who was seb Chris?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Poor Chris.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You'll have nightmares about him?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What about? What about him? Before we talk about critic
you went into Origin camp.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I did. Yeah, I got the chance to go in.
It was really cool.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
What what'd you take that?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah? It was awesome. It was awesome to kind of
get to know all the boys, kind of kind of
soak up the experience and just.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Kind of learn off Hawley what a champion.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, he was awesome. He's such an easy blot to
kind of talk to and he did a great job.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
What about Craig Bellamy? Do you have a conversation with Craig?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You had a brief convert not too much, but he
seems really cool as well.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Let me get a bit. You come up there, shook
your hands to congratulations where you're going.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's exactly what he said.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, that's the kind of guy he used.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I could see you now, he would love he'd love
to coach you, like you're right up his alley as
a player. But you know, I had dinner with Himole
last night as well, and he'd never even spoke to Craig,
and he said the exact same thing. He was like,
I didn't know how to take him or approach him
because I've watched him for so long and kind of
being like he's got a bit of a scary aura. Yeah, definitely,
you know, like you don't know how to cop him.
(26:48):
And he said the same thing. He's like that come
up and he was just the nicest bloke. I imagine
it'd be pretty sick for like a lot of those
boys who have never had anything to do with him
to it breaks down a little bit of a wall
because you've just been coached against him for so long.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, well, you've been coached against him, and you've also
kind of grown up watching him coach all his dominant teams,
So to kind of be able to meet him and
understand how he kind of works, it is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Was he very hands on? Did he get his hands
or did he kind of sit back like was he
talking in video? He just like just kind of sit
back and just let Laurie do his thing and then
just chime in if you had to. Yeah, it was
more so he just sat back and chimed in every
now and then. Laurie and the assistant coaches did the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Did you have the game pressod? They take you to
the game?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Na, So I left.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I was there from Tuesday to the Saturday a though,
and then they left to Brisbane on the Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So you you blokes were in there, of course for
the experience. You stand its cord. Did you do a
post against the team? Did they have you blows here?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah? So we kind of did a couple of opposed sessions.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
The weather.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
The weather. The first couple of days was horrendous at
Blue Mountains, and then we actually had to move training
to Penriff on the fourth day just because the weather
was so bad and we got some sun and some
sun finally and we got to They did like a
post session against Ride and I just jumped in the
right side and played against him.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, right, Yeah, when you're on the camp sometimes you
get a whole new appreciation of the guys you play against.
Who did you when you went in the camp firstly
on the field, who did you look at and just
go man like, who really stood out for you?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah? It was obviously all of the boys are pretty impressive,
but I think Nathan Cleary the way he goes about
his business is pretty special. And Isaiah how he kind
of addresses the group as well, and yeah, summarizes everything.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Nathan lots of extras.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, Yeah, he's the last man on the field always.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
What about like, because you said I've got so many
good backroll Like you were before your suspension, you were
being tossed up to be in the side as well,
you know, Angus Crichton, Liam Martin, Hudson Young was on
the bench, and then yourself and Dylan Lucas were kind
of being tossed up as well. What did you learn
from some of the other experience background was in there.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, just how they train as well, how they prepare
training like Angus Kricht and he goes one hundred percent
at everything, which is yeah, which I actually really like it.
I embrace that and probably take that to my training
now and kind of try and make sure I do
that as well. Yeah, cool to see.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Paul Samuel Walker Apparently it's just just hate it every
day because every day there's always someone at club level
who just goes like you want to go in and
you do your body sore, and there's always someone that's
going one hundred and ten percent when you're wanting to
go fifty At our club at Melbourne, it used to
be Dalphanuken would just like on a day where everyone
was sore, he just would still be sore, but he'd
(29:32):
just want to kill everyone. Matt Lodge was that at
Manly as well, would just run and Ethan Bullymore Bitcoin
Bully Moore, you know Bullymore. He's I don't know, he
loves his but loves his big cooin. He's an accountant, by. Yeah,
he works at a firm every day, every day off
he goes in there.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And Harry on well unusual man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, he's quirky individual, but same thing Bull. I've never
seen anyone score so many tries at training, but they're
not in the game as many.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Tries, but Make scores a lot in the garden he does.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But at training. Mate, if you if if you watched
him at training, you'd think he's going to go out
and school eight tries.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
He scores a lot like push your support.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, because he reads me. You read he's a
stock man. You'd see he's a full stock man figures. Yeah,
he loves numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
What about blakes. Whenever you going to camp, you always
strike up a really good relationship someone like I'm in
Origin camp. I room with Lorry a couple of times
and made he was a dream roommate. Apart from the
fact used to walk around naked all the time. I heard, Yeah, neist,
total nudist. What about yourself when you went to camp,
was there anyone you really sort of went, yeah, you
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didn't think that, Like, well, you're surprised. What a good
bloke they were.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
All the fellows are really good fellas to be honest. Yeah, yeah,
everyone was really good fellas. I was hanging out Obviously
the Dogs boys are fair bit Gritter and Maxie King,
but I got to know all the boys really well,
and yeah, they're all really good fellas. And yeah, just
tried to take a lot from what they did at
training and their preparation and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Who wasn't who wasn't a good fellow. I'm a pretty
easy go I know, impressed those two. He's too good
of Blake. Wouldn't even if someone was an asshole, you'd
find a way to get along with him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That Stephen Crichton, I think he has got the his
trajectory at the moment, twenty four years of age. What
he's doing, he's on the trajectory to be like a
Malma Ninger type figure for you, Boke something his leadership.
(31:27):
Can you just give us some insight in the leadership
day by day?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, we'll get to experience origin camp kind of see
where he kind of picked some stuff off Yoe and stuff,
And I'm getting to see him do that at Woodogs
in Clubland every every day. Is pretty special. The way
he kind of connects the group through his through his words, obviously,
but also for his actions. Yeah, it's pretty cool to
be a part of.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
When he first went to the club, did he walk
Did he walk in straight away just have a presence
and took leadership.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah. I think he kind of came in a little
bit later just because of how Penrif had gone the
year before. But he walked straight into an army camp.
And I guess we were like we had captains and
like our leaders read in Berdo and stuff, Kingy, but
then Creator at the army camp just kind of just
blew everyone away with how he kind of handled it all.
(32:18):
And yeah, from there it's just yeah, I guess it's
that aura we.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Had zero on the potty. Uh that year after he
named Cruder as captain, and he actually said that army camp.
He'd never even thought Creta was in contention to really
be captain. He was looking at Berdo and Marnie and
then he said that army camp when he when he
watched him, how he came in, how we had the group,
how we communicated with everyone. That was when he was like, well,
I think credit has got to be our skipper.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah he was. It was actually incredible to kind of
kind of witness it and be part of it. He
kind of just brought everyone together, got everyone for everything.
And just like I said, connection, connection, like the way
he connects the group. I haven't really been I haven't
really experienced that before. I don't I don't know really
how to explain it. But he understands each individual for
who they are and knows how to get everyone connected.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And it isn't so important like not just on the field,
not just some dressing, but even just when you're out
on the training field, that connectivity, because when you're doing fitness,
I remember, if you got good leadership out there, everyone
drags each other along, Everyone looks after each other. And
I've found a lot of times with fitness, when you
do fitness almost as an individual pursuit and you ignore
(33:27):
everyone else, it makes it ten times harder when you
actually take on the role of come on, presso let's go,
come on, coop, push, you know, Jack, come on, catch
up a little bit. It actually it actually makes everything
easier for everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That connection. It makes everything easier, but it also holds
everyone accountable. I guess that just rises the intensity and
I guess the level of fitness. Everyone's kind of get
into and yeah, it's something he's done.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, he seems like it seems like a bloke that
rarely gets tired. Like you can tell he's trained at
a high intensity for a long time. The difference between
the best teams and the worst teams is how the
best teams react when they're tired and under fatigue, right,
Like the communications. The first thing that goes when anyone's tired,
and you can tell crit is the blow that is
just he drills it into himself every day when he's
(34:12):
tired in pre season, he just forces himself to talk.
So that's a comes habit.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He's constantly communicating at training or on the field like
it's just yeah, it's next level communication. And I think
that comes out on the field the way he defends.
I think you know that Origin most recent Origin game,
how he defended was pretty incredible, and I'd say it's
up there with one of the best Origin. You depend
alongside you heart yeah, oh yeah too.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah. Yet he what blows me away is sometimes a
ballger pinned out and the critter and and you winger
carraz and it's two on two with them and they're
on the attack, attack and him it'll be over like
a thirty minute space. A lot of times, you know,
players will feel rightfully feel isolated. He just goes bang,
(34:56):
goes up there and just hits them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
No hesitation, doesn't panic, just back himself, which comes from
his preparation. He does it at training so he knows
that when it's time to do what he has to do,
he just use it backs himself.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's pretty sick like going historically, going from a lot
of the boys that left Penrith or even back in
the day that you would have seen like blokes that
used to leave like the Melbourne Storm when they had
the Big three there. They usually go. When they signed
a different club on more money, people go, oh, you
know they're going to make a big difference, and then
they kind of fall off a cliff. They rarely do
see him get better. I don't think one of recent times,
(35:29):
like when nicka Heinz left and he wanted the Dalim
the next year, Like it's very rare to see him
leave such a good club and then go get better.
Whereas critics like crit is another one left Penrith off
the back of a couple of premierships. You and you go,
is he going to get better? Or is he going
to sort of plat o out leaving such a good club.
But he's just gotten better and better every year.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah. Just I think he's put it down to his
work ethic, how hard he's willing to train, the amount
of preparation he does, the amount of a video he does. Also,
it's yeah, it's that elite level. And yeah, I guess
when he goes down in the field, that shows.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And the bloke, as far as performance is concerned, in
the last thirty months, it's not too far off him.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Who.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think he's been a revelation. In fact, I think
he could. I think he could play Straight of Origin.
State of Origin now if you needed him. Was Bronson
Cherry Bronson, Cherry has burned. He's just Buren fantastic for
you blokes, great finisher, great work ethic, you know, obviously
a bloke who works hard off the field.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, definitely, Bronson has been awesome. Obviously, he came back
from Fay to time out and as soon as he
got to the club he just had this willingness to
rip in and he got he got there, he did
all the hard work and then I guess critic came
a couple of weeks later and has helped him heaps
as well in terms of defensive movements and stuff. But yeah,
he's been great for us. He does a lot of
the dirty work people don't really see at times, but
(36:49):
us players on the field do see that, and we
really do appreciate that. And yeah, that's pretty pretty cool
to have them both.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We had just had a car a few weeks ago
on the potty, and you just sparked my memory of
what he said when you would have been there this
year Whence Critic came to the club, they particularly the
defensive movements on the edge. Zero had a system that
he knew worked leaving leaving Panoris, but you guys worked
so hard at it for so long, but it never
(37:16):
really clicked. It wasn't until Critter came and showed you
guys like it actually works and showed you guys how
to sort of do it. Did you experience that as well?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, definitely. I feel like in twenty twenty three, some
of us trusted the system and I was probably didn't
showed enough respect, I guess. And the system relies on
everyone going after it and everyone kept doing their job.
But then when Critic came, we kept working at it,
and we had players buy into it at all, players
brought into it, and for it to work, everyone has
(37:45):
to be buying into it. And then yeah, him just
showing I guess outside backs that they sticked to it
with the process that it will it will work out.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So it's very honest for Josh Josh Josh Ocari gas
men were working on it, gains, but even I wasn't
sure I was going. I was just gonna it. But
he certainly he certainly turned that around a couple of
those us. I'm gonna ask a few questions here before
I do. How's Gus going good?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I was good.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, he's done. He's done a remarkable job now with
a number of clubs club He doesn't get credit for
the Wars. Remember he had about six months of he
went over there. He was that behind the scenes, did
recruiting for him and tidy a few things up in
their organization and left. But he had a fair impact there.
Does when the boys have a win? Does he ever?
(38:35):
Because what we used to do in Origin it sounds weird.
I find it sort of weird that players these days
would do it, but we used to, right, everyone, let's
go get around the piano and we get a blake
pulled the piano out and we all just sit around
with with books. Gus hand out with shoot and we
just we reheard the words typed out for all the
(38:55):
songs we want to see like piano man like that.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Really?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, great tracks was for it was at least sick
for sing along.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I'd love a sing along. But it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He hasn't done it.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
No, no not.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You got to get on to it. Yeah, get on him,
say Gus, come on mate, he made his You got
to get the piano and do some single.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Where did you get the piano from? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You're in Belmore. I'm pretty sure they can find it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Is he is?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
He kind of scary?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh, he's one of those guys that has that aura
about him some other I guess Craig Bellamy, you kind
of grow up in their massive figures in the game.
And I remember when I first met him when I
was I was at the Roosters at the time, and
he's looking to bring me able to the dogs, and
I remember how nervous I was walking into Jabelle's Cafe,
which is in Bellmore there, and I was just like well,
(39:43):
it's sat down with him and feel good. Yeah, it's
crazy and he still has that aura to this day.
To be honest, I don't think that will ever change.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You could give a blasts coach ninety five origin third game,
we're playing them up in Queensland and they'll beating us
at halftime, and I've beat us at full time. But
it'd been a nod serious with the Super League war
and Gus had sort of been distracted. He'd been dragged
from here, left, right and center. And the first two
games that he got beid he was sort of philosophical.
(40:13):
A third game, by half time he had an half
and just got there and just went around the group
and just came right out you know what I do?
He goes, I just look at this group?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
And just took everyone and he went to a million
and goes, mate, have you ever fucking done a two
on one? You're fucking out there, you're going through it's
a fuck on two and one, and to give it
early and he just goes round, just giving it to Blakes.
And he got to one of the players last and
he goes, and you last, He said, yous mate, I
sit there every fucking morning and once you come downstairs
(40:43):
for breakfast, your fucking hair's never done, your breath steaks.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Do you have any silf respect at all? Jesus nippicking
towards the end.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, a black guy played with a Newcastle who ended
up going down in there Penrith. He had a tough time,
he didn't play well, out of form and he wasn't
he admits himself. He said he wasn't really toe on
the line. And he said he got there once playing
Newcastle at Penrith and Gus just come into the sheds
at halftime and he goes, he come here and pulled
his wallet out, got a heap of coins and just
(41:14):
threw the man and said, get the fucking train back
to Newcastle.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You're done.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I remember the year when I left Melbourne and signed it.
Mainly right before I signed it, mainly I met with
Syra camp Serroundo at that cafe.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
It was how stupid, zero, how dumb of you. Anyway,
he goes, mate, me jo Bell's tomorrow, me and Gus
will be there and I was like sweet, and I
was kind of like and I don't know. You used
to work with Gus quite a bit at Channel nine,
but I don't know if I if I met him.
I was really young. I can't remember meeting him. So
I was kind of nervous because obviously he's I got
(41:48):
an aura around him, and I was like, sort of
hype myself up all day. I don't get too nervous
to meet me. People just kind of nervous that I've
gone in, right. I thought about a couple of jokes
to sweeten it up. Walked in and it's just Row.
Then I went, oh, where's Gussie. Guess no, they just
texted me. Then he said, no, you can do it
on your own. That must have gave you the feeling that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Said.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I was like, okay, so Ciro's just CIO's just taken.
This meeting is a charity meeting, and there's no chance
of getting you signed to this club. To be fair,
they had thirty two players signed in their top thirty
at this stage. They actually had to cull two or
three people.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Isn't a wonderful, but that's a wonderful excuse in this
surly cap age. Mate, we're desperate to sign you, we
can't fit, we haven't got a spot left or the
salary cap iss squooze are hard, brother.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, it's the best way you can get away with murder.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, on your teammates, yep, give us some insights for
the Doggies fans. Who's the fastest in the squad?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
The fastest? I think Bronson, Yeah, I think in precesson
you've got the fastest time. Roger for bree take a bow,
Roger strongest, Oh, pound for pound to be Curtis Myron. Oh, yeah,
he's Yeah, he's little beast. He's a little beast in
the gym. You met the old man, you met his
(43:03):
dead his uncle Brad, his uncle Brad.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Good here. He's a tough player, very very good player.
Good fella too, really good fellow, bad head, bad head
on it. But you don't get a little Blake. Look
at Blake's head and you don't like. But he bucked
that train. He was a good fella.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Most annoying team mate, Oh, most annoying. Like I said,
I'm pretty nice. I just throw Harry Hayes under the
bus we drive together, so you can be honest. I
love listening to Maxicans.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Sometimes I've got I went back to you know, when
you go back to your camera roll, just go back
and just like reminisce on some years.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
We've just got some the funniest videos of King. He
just in his budget smugglers in the sheds, just chewing
everyone's ears off. He was just reminded me how big
a pest he was when we all went on a
team trip to Bali as well. Yeah I've heard about
I really have heard about that trip. Yeah, yeah, those
were Nelson started to punch someone's face. Mate, King he
(44:03):
was he was, he was so funny man, he was
just he was driving him. He's such a good good
for Team Raley vibe. But if you get him on it,
if you're in a bad mood on a day and
King corners, oh it's a long day.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Who's the most okay, who's there's obvious places who are
really skillful. Who's a bloke that would who surprises you?
Trained with the dogs as far as their skills consumed, I.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Say it wouldn't surprise me. But Bailey Hayward's very skillful
and he puts a lot of work into it. He's
a good touch footy player, right, yeah, he was growing
he growing up is really good. Yeah, I've heard stories.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Got played against him back in touch.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
You've played against everyone in touch.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Footy though under fifteens or something, because one of the
boys said, we was playing the other day and they
were like, we played against him up at State Cup somewhere.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, up in Port Macquarie. Skillful player, very skillful and
yeah he's obviously he was a touch back background. It
kind of kind of helps.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, skill, but he should tip offizes those players in
your middle field and like Kurt that can do a
bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, can play a variety of different positions, and he's
been doing a really good job for us this year.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
How's Kirk going, Jack is a question because I know Kurk,
but I don't know him well. Killer a bit of
an odd ball Jack, odd ball.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
No, No, he's a good fella, Kurt. He's a good fella.
A bit old school Killers old school that's what I
me and him got along with it well because he's
he's he's yeah, he's a bit more old school. He's funny,
sort of lad. He's maybe getting on along in the
tooth now. He might be one of the oldest in
the club.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He's the oldest. He's the oldest. He was actually my
roommate last year, was Killing. He's from the middle of
nowhere in Queensland.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, from Collinsville.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, well, I know is there's like a dinosaur museum there.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's a random thing, Jack. Can you google where they
might be a dinosaur museum in.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Queen Winter Winston, that's the one Winter.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
And you know he's a good bike and a good
teammate because he's always been want to help his teammates out,
you know, I mean up in Newcastle, was helping Kat
a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Less leave that one alone. Teachers pet like zero apart
from Critter, who's like, who's always.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
You know, teachers pet. I wouldn't say that teachers teachers
Petre's there's a couple of boys are really good relationships,
like his son.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Who's the whol now? Who is a term using used
in wrestling, which is someone who is the bad guy
or people take the piss out of all the time,
who's the who's the whipping boy?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, I'll cop I'll cop that wrap myself. I find
myself under the bus?
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Are you joking? How dare they do that to the
nicest guy?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Sometimes I probably deserve some of it, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
It keeps right now just quite just up that you
know how everybody says, oh, you know, who would you
want to date your sister? Who's a nice spoke in
the NL, and everyone goes Jake Turovitch all the time.
I'll tell you right now, Presto, after this, I think
you're going to take that title. I didn't realize just
how nice you were until we've come on.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Here, let's bringing a Let's bring a cousin, Kate.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
It's actually a dating show.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I just finished, just to finish with Presto. Now a
little bit more about yourself. Who's support growing up?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah? I was a Manly fan obviously, growing up on
Norm Beaches. So and me and we were very dominant
at the time. Kind of seven to thirteen fourteen was
kind of the peak of their power.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
It was your favorite player.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I used to love Bred Stewart obviously and Jamie Lyon,
but then I got to know Chuck everything what mos
throughout the years as well.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
He took Quirky cat.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
A good players during that here were fifty fifty's Jamie Lyne.
You talk about, you know, best presence being coming. I
don't know it's going to say ugly wrapping. It's not
the right but you look at him and you go
and then as soon as the ball hits his hands
and everything, he's just yeah, junius football.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
He would have played a lot more kind of rep games.
I think he stopped playing for a bit there as well.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
He just he just got to the point he said,
I don't need it and he was happy being a
club football. I got a bit of criticism at the time,
but at the end of the day he just goes.
I just I love playing football, love playing with the mates,
and that's why I did. I mean, he quit Paramatta
and went for twelve months, went back to we War
and just did pig shooting and played for the local side.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I think I think Bozo and those books at Manley
basically had to go out there and convince him to
come to Manley. I think he was happy just.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
To not to stay out there.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I'm pretty sure he was happy.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, he came back to Manley. He went to St Helens. Yeah, yeah,
James Grahams so he turned up and they went look
at this bloke like he's he's been basically strapped himself
to the Sizzler buffet for the last six months. And
then they he said, mate, listen'd fitness nearly lapping him,
and as soon as they started to do boor work
and everything, they just went, oh my god, look at
this guy.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Because you're a man. You played Did you play Howard
mats and SG ball at Manley?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I played all my junior reps for the North in
the beersh did you play it?
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But they didn't get you here.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I played one development game and was ball average and
really didn't really get an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
It seemed like there was a late developer, right, Yeah
I was.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I was for sure.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, probably didn't start growing that much until I was
about sixteen seventeen. How Matt's at the time was sixteen.
But I was definitely smaller kids.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Manly's all but always been in love with. They love
the biggest kids at the younger stage. Sometimes they missed,
they missed some blokes falling through the crack.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
So that's pressed her talk a couple before who they've
missed out on, who they've missed of late that's gone.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Through the Sammi v Sami Verrels.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Semi Verels. But who was just before to Marlay?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I didn't even know he was a local until
until recently.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Cramer Kingfish.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I didn't, Yeah, because his mum has the barbershop. She cuts,
she owns a barbershop, she does Auntie Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
And Keyle Weeks, Yeah he was he was a manly
played first grade so my first yeah, they let him go. Yeah,
my first ever Bears game. Me and Kyle were halves,
half partners really under fifteen. Yeah you play half. I
was playing five at the time. I played how Mates
at five eight and I broke my leg.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
And you know what press out when you just said
that about North Sydney. I've soon you play for North
Sydney somewhere. I don't know where it was, but I
actually when you say about North Sydney, I've soon you play. Yeah,
soon you played there. I don't know where it was.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
You might have been at Harrod Matt when I was
at s G Ball maybe.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, I played all my actually played power Matt's STU
Ball flag and then Cup with North Sydney, so played
he might have.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
You might have had a call from the Bears.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah mate. Yeah, what a great advertisement. Twenty seven ladies.
In January, the Dogs Tical Sun returns.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Stay of the Dogs. I think you're about to win
a few Premiership a pressed Thank you so much mate,
and we said this before your congratulations mate, on what's
going on in your career, how you handle yourself off
the field, and mate, good luck against the Earls.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Thank you so much for Thanks Christo, thanks for finding replying,
thanks for having me on list.
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