July 13, 2025 • 44 mins
Matthew & Cooper sit down with Tim Tszyu ahead of his massive bout with Sebastian Fundora.
They chat legacy, his famous father, Manny Pacquiao, the boxing world — and share a few laughs along the way.
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3:30-Ancestry
5:00-Russia
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14:00-Interaction with Manny
15:40-Boxing Community
16:30-Tyson Fury
17:00-Zab Judah
19:00-Adopting Styles
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Episode bios or social bios and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
If you want to watch Tim Zoo take on Fondora,
we've got the fight link in our bio, so check
it out. Thanks, guys, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well imagine that Tim doing that to your own son,
pretending he was adopted.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For most of his life.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
By the end, bro, I was hoping I was.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Characteria's old fiance. He was like gorgeous look at man,
blonde and blue eyed surf to the rest of it.
Sometimes the ball might have jump back into the paddock.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And he had unlike that. He had like a mad personality.
He was funny. I was rooting for them to work out.
Fortunately I didn't. Are we we're good to go. We
got the cameraman in the corner as well. Those people
that can't see on the YouTube. Timmy Timmy Zoo, Welcome
to the studio, mate. We're very excited to have you
on something that you wouldn't actually realize. You know how,
(00:52):
a lot of a lot of dads when they have
a drink, they might get a they might put a
music video or they've got a YouTube clip that they
get here. Everyone kids coming here and a look at this.
Matthew John's is one. Every time he drinks without fault
for the last ten years, he always plays the highlights
of Costa Zoo versus Zab Judah all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's a great fight. It's the perfect fight. You got
the loud mouth with the big entourage and all of
a sudden, Yeah, we all know the story. Yeah, Johnny
told me. Johnny Lewis told me a great story. Actually
having a beer one day just starts sound like an alcah.
Johnny said that going into the way in, of course
(01:34):
Judah had Tyson, Pernel Whittaker, all those guys around him.
Judah and he said, we costure. You know, God, you
know a lot more of me. But the cost you
put like was an actually probably a nady kilo man.
Where he said Judah was probably a sixty kilo man.
And he said at the way in, he said, there
was a moment where Pernel, Whittaker and Tyson, all those
(01:55):
guys just moved away and your dad put his hand
around Zab Judah's waste and wear too small. Yeah, mind games.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, you know what another story was my
dad found out. My dad's whole campaign around that fight
was called Destiny, that this was his destiny. This this uh,
this fight, this was you know, it was all the
marbles for the undisputed title. So so the whole campaign
before the fight was his was was called Destiny. And
(02:23):
I think a month before the fight, Zab had a
daughter named Destiny. I think it was freshly born and
it wasn't out in the public. It was just low key.
But my dad found out about her and he whispered
in Zab's eve at the weigh in. He goes, I
(02:47):
hope your destiny is all right. She's well, my destiny
comes tomorrow night. And apparently, you know, he was talking
and everything and then he just like was rattled, didn't
know what to say, you know that buzzed in.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Mind The rest is histue boxing
is and correct me if I'm wrong, but boxing seems
like it's ninety percent mental.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Right, Yeah, Like, but you know what now it's sort
of like changing. It's become more of a like a show. Yeah,
you know, sometimes you get to have that like that
last bit that we get to actually see someone and
then say your last little bit of words. These days
it becomes more about just trash talking, just talking it up.
But there is a certain bit that you can do
(03:34):
and to mentally get inside your opponent.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
How do you go with like the obviously it is
very showman shit right to sell and whatnot. But you
don't seem like the kind of guy that that that
comes like naturally too, like you're naturally quite quiet?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Do you respectful?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah? Yeah, Like do you do you find that side hard?
Or like do you just like to be.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The thing for me? I just like to be authentic.
I don't want to be someone that I'm not. You know,
it's hard to you obviously obviously obviously people get exposed
when they're when they're putting on an act and let's
go on that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, saying but yourself, everyone else is taken. But your
dad used to do make the thing like getting mind games.
Remember used to have the steel balls in his hands
and used to say things like, mate, this is like
I do this to strengthen my hands and make me
a bigger punch. Or it might have been finding charmbo
Mitchell and his head. I've worked on his new punch
you see Chameo Mitchell going fuck, just just on that.
(04:36):
I was just reading sort of. I've been reading a
book which is pretty grim, the history of the Soviet Union.
But of course your roots are in sarah Off, Russia.
It's just tough, industrial mining town. Do you get back there, Tim,
Have you been there?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I haven't been. I've been once in my life and
that was when I was in year one, and I
still have memories of it. For some reason. It just
always stuck in my in my head, even from such
a such a young kid back then. But I spent
a month there and I just, yeah, just have little
(05:13):
glimpses of it. I remember one time it was just
it was summer and the sun wouldn't go down until
like twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Does it stay up that long?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeahause the higher or lower hour in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There's a day and it's after the school formal where
there's sunshine twenty four hours in the whole day.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So yeah, it was interesting because your family has correct
Korean blood ancestry Mongolian Korean. Yeah, because what was interesting
was Sarah had a big post World War One, had
a big prisoner of war camp which had a lot
of Mongolian Chinese, but predominantly Koreans, and they said, as
(05:58):
a consequence, the town has a big Korean influence, which
I thought.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Was that was probably from that's where we probably came.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You got.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like, obviously you haven't been back to Russia since you won,
but do you have quite a big back to Russia
or you've been back there, just.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Just haven't been to the How how.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You received in Russia? Do you do you have a
big following there? I think so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think so. The thing the thing with my dad,
it's very strange, like he's he's very well known in Russia,
like David Beckham, really type type level in Russia. So
it's it's that type of that type of life and
profile that he's got there. And when we lived there,
(06:45):
me and my brothers, we sort of had that that
weird privilege, I'd say, but we're not because we were
brought up in Australia, we're not. We weren't used to it.
That's that's one of the things that made us want
to come back to Australia.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I met your dad about a month after your dad
and your mum defected, and he was at the Newcastle
Races with Johnny Fight coming up there and and first
thing like you the really dark eyes. He shook my hand.
Honestly it was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Strong handshake, strong handshake. I noticed the same thing when
I thought you were like power moving broken.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But house preparation has.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Been Tim, it's been good. It's been good. It's been
all six weeks back and forth from from us, so
it's been it's been quite good. Boys fly in from
America and I've had another guy flying from from New
Zealand talk South Paw emulate that type of story, is.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That when you're when you're getting a sparring partner, do
you try to get someone who is similar as similar
as possible, even height wise?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, because to be difficult with Vondora.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, he's a tall man, right.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, So the boys are six for four South Paws
tall rangy. So that's what we're going with.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow, do you tim when you go into camp? Like
I remember hearing stories about Marvin Hagler. Marvin Hagler would
hire the whole floor of a hotel and would basically
go into exile. What extent do you do as far
as camps concerned.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't like to overthink too much and try and
keep it not balanced, that'd say. I'd say, just somewhere
where I can go home and just be relaxed, you know,
not thinking about boxing NonStop. Otherwise it's it becomes too much.
You sort of just rock up on fight night and
you want to be ready like that, you know. So Yeah,
(08:50):
for me, I don't. I don't need to get out there.
I used to go to America and be around around
it all, but it wasn't It wasn't for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
being around boxing twenty four hours is too much training.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, well I can only imagine some of the people too. Yeah.
I mean, let's face it to him, everyone wants something
off you, like taking a little piece that's fatigued.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, of course, of course, and just being a home
sometimes is just a bit more relaxing, you know, more
of peace.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
July twenty MGM grand amazing card. Trying to think, you know,
as good a card, you know, as far as the
strains are concerned, because of course, Pakio's come out of
time for Barrios. I remember Jeff Fanik when he fought
to Zoom and Nelson for the first time. That was
the undercard to Mike Tyson's first fight when he got
out of the Colonel Clink against Raddick. But this is
(09:43):
an amazing opportunity, Paki, How what what's it? What's it
been like knocking around with Many?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
His aura, you know when he when he walks in,
you feel sort of feel his presence. It's pretty it's
pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Have you Is this your first time eating you before?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I did a bit of sparring with him. Yeah, so
I go according to to work with him for two
weeks in the Philippines. Is that is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is that weird? Because he's he's forty six now he'd
be closer to your old like to questions age, is
that weird? Has he had a conversation where he's like
it's a bit surreal for him to nah, he hasn't
said that.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
No, he doesn't say much. I'll be honest. Really, yeah,
he doesn't say much. He's uh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, that must have been an experience being in the
Philippines with Many. You're talking about the level of fame.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, it was. It was it was.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Like a like a god wow, you know, like the
cricketers in India kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
May this this? I mean, Paki how is what has given?
Like the Filipinos like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You know, yeah, pressed he was going for presidentship?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Was he going for president?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, well him, but he he wouldn't walk the streets
of Philippines. You can't even No, no, she made me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Sleep on the couch last night.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what, you know why I slept on? So
he lost his credit card right down at the beach somewhere,
and he's looking for ages. Mum ends up canceling it.
The moment she cancels it, as it always does, someone
messaged me saying, oh, it's turned up at the pub.
I can tell your dad. Someone's found it at the pub.
So he's obviously been around the pub too. And then
(11:31):
and then he cracked the ships because she canceled it
for him.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
No, no, no, I cracked the ships because before that
she kept asking questions, going, have you traced your steps?
And I went, yeah, I have. What did you do
with the last time I paid for coffee? Oh? What
sort of coffee? Just man, what sort of coffee? I've
lost my credit card. It just went on and on
and so forth. So I' a bit tied around the neck.
But yeah, but but yeah, but many that that level
(11:56):
of fame there. I had a friend who was flying
from the Philippines to the US and they're sitting on
the plane and they said, sorry, there's delay delayed two
hours because many peck hours he was running lay for
the plane.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
They just kept you know, when I when I came
to the Philippines, there was just a massive line at
the airport. One of the customs officers in the in
the Philippines comes tim come straight through. They grabbed my
bags and I'm straight into the car. I've got a
bit of Filipino spending money straight to me, straight into
(12:34):
the hotel. And I was like, oh, this is this
is good, this is not.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I might move over.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What did you What did you learn sparring?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I wouldn't say much about the sparring. The first time,
first time we met, were standing face to face from
each other about the spa. So so that was unreal.
But yeah, I was I wasn't allowed to go full
hard yep, I was allowed to. I was trying to
have to have to try to imitate Keith thurmant Or, okay,
(13:06):
and I'm not used to that. So it was a
cool experience being around it all. But to continue on
in terms of my career, wasn't going to do too much?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What did you you were your warn not to go
too hard? Was the same warning given to him.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Or no, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, did he go pretty hard?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, okay, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
He would like he would he would take off the
whole round and then like in the end he would
like pick it up in the last thirty seconds. He
comes out with these spurts.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Because he's going he's forty six, He's going to break
his own record. He's trying to break his own record
as the oldest weldweight champion. Yeah, he's as a boxer.
How like give us a bit of an insight. How
hard is that going to be? Like how big a
mountains that for him to close?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think it's I think it's the biggest mountain right
now for him. You know, like he's done his eight
division world champion, which is crazy old record status. But
to be who is fighting Marios, Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, he's made. He's he's some sort of fighter and man.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, and forty six. It's unfortunately it's a hard age.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, we even see like look at the UFC, even
even Volk he just he just won thirty six is
the oldest in that division, and chatting with him even
he was like that was that was so I had
to train so hard because give him my age. Man,
he's got ten years.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Say that there's saying boxesn't you can grow all overnight?
See that? We fighters, Yeah, fighters very often after their
greatest victory can just exhale a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Did I see a video as well of you as
a kid and like as Manny Paki was walking out
to a fight and he waved it you like you
came out to him. What was the deal with that?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Two thousand and nine, I went to watch Pato MGM
grand We're on fire now. It's always been a big
dream one. Yeah, And we were near the entrance and
I was screaming out team back out, back out, back out,
and he sort of looked up and he was looking
around like I remember, for the rest of my.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Life, I've never seen them like packing out. When are
you beau to go out there? Like it's just so
happy to yea over that time. But you see when
you had the lead singer Survivor singing Ey the Tiger
and he's just walking behind him and he's looking.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
So funny is that Has that been crazy for you?
Like it like obviously you flew over there to SPA
and that first time you meet him, are you like, like,
did you tell him that was you and the crowd?
Did you tell him about that moment.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And he remembers about the crowd?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah? That guy. Do you know when you get people sometimes,
tim do you remember fifteen years Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, did you tell him like the moment? Did you
be like Actually, when I.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Was a kid, I didn't tell him you don't want
to be you don't want to don't like that. Other
guys that used to tell me that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, do you run into have you had much to
do with like some of the greatest legends in fight's history,
Because I imagine amongst even though there's lots of trash
talk and stuff the boxing world, there must be I
feel like a real community of visual respect.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And the crazy thing is like being in the boxing
scene now in America, like being just amongst it and
around it. Even going to the fights the other day,
it was just like you see all these top boxes
from from different divisions and different errors, and they're all
recognizing You're saying hi to you and You're like, that's
(16:39):
that's the biggest trip out for me. Like that was
like these guys that I've watched throughout the years and
they're coming up to you and saying that's how much
they like your style and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Just the best in every sport team they know the sport.
I love it with Mike Tyson might. Tyson just knows
the history of fighting and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But it's like kinds of Fury. Yeah that next to
Tyson Fury my brother's fight. And we start talking. He's like, man,
I watched your fight against Tony Harrison. He goes, I
loved it, and I'm like, no, wait what you watched
my fight? Yeah, I'm tripping now and I'm like, no way, watchful.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Listened to a podcast. A guy who gave you a
really good rap was Ricky Hatton. Ricky was talking about
you know where he beat your dad in Manchester that
night and then he was like, spoke after it and
he said, I got to give a rap. He said
there were no excuses. Costure was really grateful. He's a
great guy and he said I saw his son Tim
fight really and what do you say, Oh, yes, t
(17:39):
lad MAT's got got heavy hands.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Has people that your dad's fought have they like through
your journey as people reached out or like you have
come across.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, we saw each other at the Charlo phone and
it was cool to just connect, you know how.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He with the mask, he was cool.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah. Yeah, he's turned his life around. He's like a nurse, Neil,
is he really Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, he's he's turned into a nurse and yeah he's
doing he's doing great.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah. I remember like when your dad fought him, he
was considered at the point he was in the argument
best panther pan Fi. Yeah, well when your dad dropped him,
he was never the same fighter again.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, he actually became an undisputed champ.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did he really?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah didn't he didn't he get like he got banned
for a bit for touching the raft, right, he.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Went up the division and beat Cory Spinks and became
undisputable champion.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Disappeared afterwards.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, it must have been when dad started drinking. Have
you got a did you have a hero when you
were growing up like fighting wise?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Uh? Roy Roy Jones? Yeah, yeah, yeah really, but then
when growing up in the in the teen teenagers, it
was I used to always watch Floyd Mayweather and yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Do you like because when you when you have a
league players listen to this will understand. Like when you
have a hero going up, you try to like you
always try to play the same position as them, and
like in juniors and try to adopt some of their
habits in boxing, Is that the same, like different styles
that you try to adopt.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah. I was always trying to do a bit of floid.
Yeah yeah, not obviously outside but inside the ring. The
way he used to box was like for me, it
was like perfection, you know. I always looked up to him.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Used to be funny. You go to to the public
gyms like fitness first you go up there and when
Floyd was you know, firing. Yeah, you used to get
blokes and they put the mits on stuff and everyone
had their hands around their waist, you know. All I said,
why doesn't want to be costing? Sebastian, I'll ask you
(19:53):
a question here. And I've always of the belief there's
a difference between the smart thing and the right thing,
And I've times the smart thing is oftentimes dictated by
other people. The right thing is something that just exists
within you. Now with the fondora fault and you had
the head cut. Everyone went, well, the smart thing was
to go bang, you know, I don't know, declared a drawer,
(20:17):
I went to the card. I'm not sure at what
point of the fight it was, but for you, in
you was the right thing to continue to fight.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, like even to this day, like you when I
just said, like I was at these fights and you
got the legends saying how much of a fighter you are?
You know, and it's all because of what you show,
you know, what you what I did on that on
that given night, and forever be forever be lived.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
The response, like the response that you got from that,
because obviously you got beat but I imagine you would
have gained a lot of a huge response and respect
from the fighting community, like we people reaching out from
after that fight a bit.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, there was a lot of respect, Yeah, respect, the
fact that the amount of blood that I went through
was crazy and to be to keep fighting on.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You know, I like this the other day. The human
body actually hasn't got that much blood in it, but actually,
well most human bodies haven't got that much blood in it.
Like I think it's something like and I might be
wrong here, probably hang on. Jack's holding up seven leaders,
eight leaders, Okay, it's eight leaders of blood in it,
which that's not that much.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
With that fight.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I remember watching that fight. You would have gone through
about two or three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
There was that much after, did you feel? Yeah? Right,
because that's what they do. You know what they do
with horses. Back in the old days with the horses.
They used to blood horses. They used to train them
like choke the horse with but now they used put
it around, get it. So the vein the juggle vane
needs to prick the jae Levan it lose all this
(22:00):
blood and go and lay down, fall asleep, and the
next day get up and regenerated. So that's what I'm
saying is to him. Have you ever thought about.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Is that all it takes sports science? Sports science has evolved.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But Fandora that that fight, I reckon. I'm not going
to say I reckon? Do you reckon? He would be
incredibly at the moment apprehensive, given the fact that when
you watch that fight, like I could see until the headcut,
the confidence was just draining out of him and it
was just basically a matter of time.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's what he wants to rewrite.
That's his motivation, you know, is that because his victory
was sort of overshadowed by the fact that what was
happening inside the ring, you know. And I think that's
that's his biggest motivation. And for me, my biggest motivation
is what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It's like Rocky, like the last Rocky where the last
of where he's he he no one expects him to win,
and he gets in there and he rips in and
then the other guy, the modern he was like the
modern Antonio Tabor.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He he beats him, but everyone like claps Rocky out,
Like Rocky was the one who was more respected. I
imagine for fun Door.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For one second, it was a movie, not a documentary.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No, no, no. But for me, this is the this
is the thing, Tim, It's the message that that movie conveys. Okay,
the message that movie conveyed that touched my heart and
I'm sure it touched many hearts across Australia.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like after it, did.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You sense anything from fun Door? Like have you did
you speak to him after the fight?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Really a well, we sort of interacted straight after the fight. Yeah,
where he came and gave me the belt back. Yeah, uh,
and that's what that was about it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, Well, like you know, boxing, Tim like to move
in the outsider. I might have completely wrong. He looks
like a really sort of nice sweet guy. You're you're
a technician as a fighter. How much do you have
to get yourself or do you have to demonize the
other fighter or can you just clinically just go about
(24:10):
your work emotionless?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, there is no emotion right, Yeah, the the emotion
ones are actually harder, you know, So the fact that
there's no emotion in it?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you always been like that, like as a kid,
like even in Where does that come from?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I don't know, because there's lots of Like there's lots
of footy players who I look at and they have
the same, very much the same demeanor as you. Like
Nathan Clear is kind of that one as well, like
very technical and like not much like not much emotion,
and it benefits him in big moments because he can
calm himself down under pressure and he's able to execute.
(24:52):
Like is that something that you trained? Like, I know
you work a lot with mental coach and stuff. Is
that something that you trained or is that certain of
your identity.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think I think it's a bit of birth. Yeah, well, yeah,
I think it's a bit of birth. And I think
with the fund door that I did sort of lose
control as soon as the as soon as the cut happened,
I went into my into someone that I'm not rather
than being very methodical. And when you.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Couldn't see it was like putting Stevie Wonder in the Yeah,
that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did did the doctor look answered? He checked it out?
Did he did? He want to stop the fight?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But I'm not sure I was. I was actually in
my head. I was thinking that this fight would be stopped.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah right, yeah, how did? How is your mom watching?
I mean, your poor mom, she's going she's going through
it three times? Yeah, you know costure, she must be
just going.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
She's not watching, she doesn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Just it's just too much.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I think it's a bit heavy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Has your brother going to it? Because he's been I
remember coming on coming to show. Your brother's got a
sixth cent of humor. Yeah, it looks like he's got
a sixth cent to you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
When he's on the show talking about where he had
a chocolate milk and I had it. I went back
and and he like, God, I think he's just a
sinuated he.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Has Oh man, if you two got a good relationship,
like how hell must of you guys hang out outside
not much keeping, you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Know, is cool. He's just we're into two different things.
You know. He's a rule.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Bush was like hunting and that.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
No, just just goes out there. He just goes for
a walk with his dogs. Yeah, it's a rule.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Is he married, Niki?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yes he is. He is. Yeah, he had a low
key wedding without telling anyone. Mom found out from the
from from the newspaper.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
She called me, do you know what's funny?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Begin to get married?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, this is something we share in common because Matthew's
brother Andrew John's same thing. Bring us. One day, I
was just he was in Bali or something, right, he
was overseas, and he goes, I just got married. This
was like four months ago. And then they came out
in the paper later.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And we were like, at least cool, thanks, that's right.
Likely apetually it's first marriage, is yeah, third time. She's
a nice girl, she's a chance.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, she's also make sure we look that he's married.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Life count for you.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It's good. It's good. Yeah, the same for me and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Trust media, you'll be on the Sundays and Diamonds most days.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The Stones.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Were just joking very much back to the FA fight
after what was that period like after because you how
long did it take for you to get back in
the ring after that fight? It was pretty soon, right.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, it took a bit because I had still had
the cut to sort of let it heal. Yeah, But
I was in Hawaii for like two weeks and I
came back and went to Thailand and started prepping for
a fight against Victor Virgil Waitsis. Yeah, and then that
got postponed because of my cut still hasn't healed. And
then yeah, then I went to America and for it.
I think it was October.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, right. That's that's the reason. Another reason Timmy just
get so much respect, not just from the fight community,
everyone is the fact that you stay active and the
fact that, like you know, you're prepared for Keith Thurman,
Thurman pull that broken broken hand and all of a sudden,
Fandora you've been preparing for just someone completely different. You
(28:53):
still take the fight.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, Yeah, And that's that's the best thing about this
camp is that I've actually had time to to actually
slow things down, be able to work on things, work
on the mistakes, work on things that don't work, find
out stuff that don't work, find out stuff that works,
and be able to, yeah, to work on them.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Do you how much? How much take do you do?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I don't do too much?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, I don't like to watch too much.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Are the fighters that do that like watch a lot
of video really? Yeah, and analyze like.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
What they analyze everything? Really, I try and understand see
what he's going to understand it? Understand it?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Or what about for yourself? Like do you watch a
lot of fights back and see like how you might
have handled a scenario or your own sort of fighting
style a little bit more so than watching an opponent.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I like to watch boxing in general, but
I don't really like to watch opponents on my soul.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Do you like watching your brother?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You don't like that?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
No, Like is that it's just stressful because you've just
got this style?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Poe always?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Would it be like, is it stressful as a brother
to watch your brother fight?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like you get nervous in that?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah? First fight, I was shoulding myself. I'll be honest.
I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how
to feel. I had to just like try to relax myself,
calm myself down. Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
He certainly drags opponents into every time we fight, it's
it's eventful. Yeah, he loves to war.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Who are the fighters you really like watching these days?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
These days? Uh m hm, no one, there's heavyweights. I
don't mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my favorite fight at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He's animal and it's funny like chubby boy, chubby boy.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, it doesn't have like the typical like Anthony Joshua Mexican.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeh monster. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is there any like Giopatyre in Australian boxing because he
broke that guy's jawel the up day.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know what a gentleman there like broke his jaw
then went organized the bloke to organize his doctor to
operate on did he afterwards?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It was good drinking it through a straw.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
The funny thing about Giant, So in twenty twenty, we
had a big trip for the Storm after our season
to Byron Bay and me and Brandon Smith. There's a
beautiful pie shop and it's like the kebab store. It
stays open all night, so after a few beers you
can go there and get a pie. And Gie was
there and he come up, was talking to us, mate,
and he hadn't I don't even think he'd had a
(31:51):
professional fight yet. But we knew he was a boxer
because like I think Brandon, Brandon watches boxing a lot.
He's got a good fighter, street fighter. And this blow
come up to guy and mate, I don't know what
it is with drunk punners and wanting to when they
know someone's a good fighter, wanting to try to get
them to fight him. This bloke would not leave him
alone and was going after him, after him, and Brandon
(32:14):
was like, what are you doing? Like you're gonna get
killed if he turns lucky. He's pretty like he was
just telling them like piece off. Mate, I didn't really
buy it, buy it, but mate, after watching him knock
that bloke out the other day, looking back on that moment, that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Bloke could have. You know, some blokes deserve to be
knocked out, you know what I mean. But you're right,
you do you ever get that? Do you ever get
people coming up drunks.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Maybe because I'm not in that scene. Yeah right, not
in that scene, So I don't really don't.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Really, you're not really a drinker. No, no, Like after
a fight with really, how do you unwind? Like, how
do you celebrate a fight post fighter?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Just just relaxed with with a few friends and that's it.
We're just get something to you.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You're like the perfect human. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That's that's very like.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's I imagine a lot of fighters after a long
training camp, they want to blow off steam.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Do you not.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
You don't really don't, don't have the urges, don't have
the feeling. Yeah, it's done.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
You must just be happy.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Said about the Mexican monster, like the Mexican the Mexican
fighters like that. You know, you watching Alvarez of course,
all how many Mexicans you have? You thought, and yeah,
oh yes, okay, you cleaned him up pretty quick. Remember
they call your dad the executioner.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, you had a few spared, a few tough, tough, tough.
They hit hard as well, and the style is just
very rugged. You know, you're always in for hard and
hard spy. Good to the body as well.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Right, one of the one of my mates. He actually
just leaves up the road. He's Australian, but he's from
Mexican background, Australian fighter Mateo Tapia.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah he's of course.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, yeah, he's a bloody good fighter.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah. And like you said, I've spied hundreds and hundreds
of rounds with him.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, he's a good Like you said, they've got a
certain style, right, like he loves like he drops a
lot of blokes by going to the body.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, Wow, he's got a good body show. He's hit
me a couple of times in the body and.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You're just like, that's a Mexican trade around the body.
Yeah right, Vez I saw. It's a real shame of
his son's fighting ja Jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Fuck just you know, look he should beat the ship there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I mean when you look at these influencer boxes, right Paul,
Logan Paul and Jake Paul even like KSI those guys
get in, do you look at them and kind of
go like, are they good fighters?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Or I don't think they're bad? Yeah, Okay, they're having
a good little crack at it. Yeah, I don't think
what's his name, Logan Paul's good, He's pause all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Okay, do you see like, obviously it's shaman ship, right,
they're making money, yadyada. But do you look at it
from a boxing point of view and go like it's
a little disrespectful to the sport or it's just or
is it good for the sport?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, it's actually not bad. Yeah, like it brings more eyes.
I think Jack Paul's doing a good job. He's he's
trying to take over women's boxing.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He signed all the women and giving them a good pay,
so you know, if that's what it takes, then good
on him.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You know, he said before the changing face of boxing
isn't like the showmanship and everything. I must say when
Logan Paul fought Floyd Mayweather, it was so frustrating because
he was just taking the piss and you know what
I mean, he must be clever Floyd, given the fact
that he goes to all these exhibition fights around the
world and he never really does a job on any
(35:57):
of them. I suppose if he does others.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
They were yeah, yeah, yeah, what about like the Mike
Tyson verse Jake Paul one, which we were watching it
and we were kind of we almost felt bad for
Mike given his age and like where he was at physically.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But yeah, no, no, no, I just I know you mean,
like I really felt for like after it when you
when he was biting his glove and that, it was
almost like it's really strange. It was almost like a
young kid with insecurity, you know what I mean? Do
you get that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But like those and obviously it's a big payday, right
and it's a big for showmanship, but like did you
do you look at that and go like, oh that
was hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, that's just because it was Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, everyone's hero right exactly.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And you could tell he couldn't perform the way he
could perform, just because when you get in the ring
there's so many people and your your body shuts down,
you know, your your hands can't throw any more. You
go through a combo and you're completely gas. That's what happens,
you know, And that's exactly what he went through.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Its fund isn't when they're so good, the networks are
now building fights with promos and that that you actually
all the way through Mike Tyson and Jake Paul's are
going fuck. Tyson's going to get him and then all
of a sudden, the fight started. Fuck, they've got me.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I knew that. I knew that straight away. I knew
it couldn't couldn't could.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, because they market it well, like they released videos
of him on the pads and he he looks good.
Dad was gone, Mate, Mike's going to get.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Him a killer, mate was talking about it. Yeah it
was Jeff. Anyone said. When Jeff trained Mike for a
little stint, he said he had all these hang hangers
on around him. It was really hard to keep Mike focused,
and he said the other thing was mine. Mike was
just focusing purely on power. He said to the point
that Jeff likes a high work rate, you know, and
(37:45):
he was. He said made. He'd do two or three punches,
and then he turned to one of his hands like
hangers on and go, how that looks good? And Jeff
was saying, fucking come on, keep it looking looking for brakes.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, right, Hey.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That's that's the featherweight. It's style like like Jeff Finick
you yeah, yeah, a lot of punches just heavyweight. You
can't you can't throw them any punches.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Some of the have you seen some of the old
Jeff fights on.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The yeah, fucking NonStop.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It's fucking unbelievable. I saw the one report Victor Collasius
how today the Puerto Rican and they're just like they're
just headbutting each other and elbow and each other. If
it's unbelievable. Apparently the referee in that collagious head butter
Jeff had he head butts him back. He said, hey,
fellas blah blah blah. Then collacious headbuts in the end
(38:34):
and he pulled him in a suit. Is that Why?
Is that what we're going to do. If that's why
you want to fight, go for it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'll just let him go.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Just let him go, mate. You should see how brutal
it is. They after the fight, Johnny Lewis said, Jeff
had like about twenty like golf ball lumps on the
top of the head of os. Just let them go.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Newcast I want to talk about Newcastle re Sectors. Newcastles,
We've got a strong connection as our family. It looks
like a place that you love to fight. You know,
they call it zoo Castle. Up there, you just be
Joseph Spencer. Up there is your last fight. What does
that community feel for you?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Up there. Like. Look when I went out in the
Dennis Hogan fight, like to the stadium with the crowd,
I was like, it was crazy. It was just crazy.
I've never experienced such a thing that they really get
behind you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I felt like a like it was a hometown for me,
you know, and I don't Rember. I'll always have that
connection there, especially my dad. Yeah, Dad's history there, Nikita,
what Nikita's done there as well, So you know, it's
a big family legacy for us.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It used to be big nights when your dad thought
there put Roger Mayweather through the ropes. Yea, some great
fights now before we let you go, mate the bunnies,
your bunnies, you're.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
A big set.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
They're done, right. Have you been watching You're a new
feeing growing up?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
And then yeah, why because your dad was fighting the
I really liked Andrew, you know, it looked at me like,
(40:22):
no way, So what was your favorite player?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah? I remember watching the movie he had the.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Movie Yeah, yeah, the one with Nike and he was
like practicing kicking and that is that that one thinks
it was like a training documentary.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I remember it always on in our TV at home.
So I always used to like, uh yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Good photos of you and your dad a little Swallows restaurant.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah with Joey. Yeah really you go to
dinner with him and that once.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think I think he might have I think Costume
might have caught up with Joey recently in the country.
Did Joey said Joey's life?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Did you guys ever think about like inviting dad to
those you did you see a couple of weeks where
Joey caught up with Cursor. You don't remember Cursor, the
Australian Rapper. Did you see that picture? So it was
(41:27):
game two sad of Origin and they must have both
been at the airport and Curse has taken a selfie
with Joey and put it up mate if you I
don't want to allude to some of the stuff that
people were commenting on it, but there was lots of
comments to elicit substances, pingers and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Correct get the ideas in your head. It was that weird.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I was going, this is such a strange combination these
two together.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
He was coming in the rabbits basically talking about all his.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, yeah, they were having like there was like an
argument that took place in the comments at one stage
of who took who took more pingers. But here's the
thing Joey and Curser were commenting on it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Now tim to finish with. We're going to do a
thing called loan Survivor SOP. I'm not good explaining, Okay,
So what's going to happen is Dad will give you
one second. You just give me a pen. I'm going
to eliminate one person because he spoke about Roy Jones
is in the list, and that because that'll be a spoiler.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay, sweet, So Dad will give you to two fighters
and you pick who would you rather, and it goes
down to the list until there is one loan survivor
and that is the winner of it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Fighters. You you're meyer and love the most throughout history.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And he's just ripped Roy Jones off.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I took it off because as soon as I say
Roy Jones, you're just going to tear through the list. Okay,
first one to really use you one Robert A Duran
or Jake Paul Dan. Yeah, how good? Roberto Duran Sugar a.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Leonard Oh Duranne.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Roberto Duran Marvin Hagler, Duran Duranne, Tommy Hearns. There's the
four Kings. You see that how good is incredible? Roberto
Duran triple Gnadie Glofkin triple G, Okay triple G, Jeff
Fennick triple G, triple G, Oscar de la Hoya triple G,
triple G, Julia Caesar Chavez triple G, Canelo Alvarez t G,
(43:35):
triple G, Floyd Mayweather O triple G, triple G. Mike Tyson,
Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, Mini pak Ya, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson,
Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, cost your Zoo July
(43:59):
twenty mgm Grand Yeah, Sebastian Vanda two point zero.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It's going to be on main event. I get it
via your ko or Fox Tell mate, thanks for coming on.
Last question, is there any real player that you think
is because a lot of them try their hand of boxing,
Are there any of them that you think are actually?
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I reckon that a car but Foxes I said, we
had Foxy on a few weeks ago and he doesn't
remember when we did rehab training.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
One time when we're both injured, they put gloves on him.
He can fight.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I've seen him through some hands on the street.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
His grandfather Wally one let even eleven time national champion,
eleven different divisions. Well incredible. Yeah, he's quick, he's quick
man quick as oh yeah, he's quick.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Not quick with
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Thanks, appreciate you coming over, man,
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Episode bios or social bios and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
If you want to watch Tim Zoo take on Fondora,
we've got the fight link in our bio, so check
it out. Thanks, guys, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well imagine that Tim doing that to your own son,
pretending he was adopted.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
For most of his life.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
By the end, bro, I was hoping I was.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Characteria's old fiance. He was like gorgeous look at man,
blonde and blue eyed surf to the rest of it.
Sometimes the ball might have jump back into the paddock.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And he had unlike that. He had like a mad personality.
He was funny. I was rooting for them to work out.
Fortunately I didn't. Are we we're good to go. We
got the cameraman in the corner as well. Those people
that can't see on the YouTube. Timmy Timmy Zoo, Welcome
to the studio, mate. We're very excited to have you
on something that you wouldn't actually realize. You know how,
(00:52):
a lot of a lot of dads when they have
a drink, they might get a they might put a
music video or they've got a YouTube clip that they
get here. Everyone kids coming here and a look at this.
Matthew John's is one. Every time he drinks without fault
for the last ten years, he always plays the highlights
of Costa Zoo versus Zab Judah all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's a great fight. It's the perfect fight. You got
the loud mouth with the big entourage and all of
a sudden, Yeah, we all know the story. Yeah, Johnny
told me. Johnny Lewis told me a great story. Actually
having a beer one day just starts sound like an alcah.
Johnny said that going into the way in, of course
(01:34):
Judah had Tyson, Pernel Whittaker, all those guys around him.
Judah and he said, we costure. You know, God, you
know a lot more of me. But the cost you
put like was an actually probably a nady kilo man.
Where he said Judah was probably a sixty kilo man.
And he said at the way in, he said, there
was a moment where Pernel, Whittaker and Tyson, all those
(01:55):
guys just moved away and your dad put his hand
around Zab Judah's waste and wear too small. Yeah, mind games.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, you know what another story was my
dad found out. My dad's whole campaign around that fight
was called Destiny, that this was his destiny. This this uh,
this fight, this was you know, it was all the
marbles for the undisputed title. So so the whole campaign
before the fight was his was was called Destiny. And
(02:23):
I think a month before the fight, Zab had a
daughter named Destiny. I think it was freshly born and
it wasn't out in the public. It was just low key.
But my dad found out about her and he whispered
in Zab's eve at the weigh in. He goes, I
(02:47):
hope your destiny is all right. She's well, my destiny
comes tomorrow night. And apparently, you know, he was talking
and everything and then he just like was rattled, didn't
know what to say, you know that buzzed in.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Mind The rest is histue boxing
is and correct me if I'm wrong, but boxing seems
like it's ninety percent mental.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Right, Yeah, Like, but you know what now it's sort
of like changing. It's become more of a like a show. Yeah,
you know, sometimes you get to have that like that
last bit that we get to actually see someone and
then say your last little bit of words. These days
it becomes more about just trash talking, just talking it up.
But there is a certain bit that you can do
(03:34):
and to mentally get inside your opponent.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
How do you go with like the obviously it is
very showman shit right to sell and whatnot. But you
don't seem like the kind of guy that that that
comes like naturally too, like you're naturally quite quiet?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Do you respectful?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah? Yeah, Like do you do you find that side hard?
Or like do you just like to be.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The thing for me? I just like to be authentic.
I don't want to be someone that I'm not. You know,
it's hard to you obviously obviously obviously people get exposed
when they're when they're putting on an act and let's
go on that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, saying but yourself, everyone else is taken. But your
dad used to do make the thing like getting mind games.
Remember used to have the steel balls in his hands
and used to say things like, mate, this is like
I do this to strengthen my hands and make me
a bigger punch. Or it might have been finding charmbo
Mitchell and his head. I've worked on his new punch
you see Chameo Mitchell going fuck, just just on that.
(04:36):
I was just reading sort of. I've been reading a
book which is pretty grim, the history of the Soviet Union.
But of course your roots are in sarah Off, Russia.
It's just tough, industrial mining town. Do you get back there, Tim,
Have you been there?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I haven't been. I've been once in my life and
that was when I was in year one, and I
still have memories of it. For some reason. It just
always stuck in my in my head, even from such
a such a young kid back then. But I spent
a month there and I just, yeah, just have little
(05:13):
glimpses of it. I remember one time it was just
it was summer and the sun wouldn't go down until
like twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Does it stay up that long?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeahause the higher or lower hour in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There's a day and it's after the school formal where
there's sunshine twenty four hours in the whole day.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So yeah, it was interesting because your family has correct
Korean blood ancestry Mongolian Korean. Yeah, because what was interesting
was Sarah had a big post World War One, had
a big prisoner of war camp which had a lot
of Mongolian Chinese, but predominantly Koreans, and they said, as
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a consequence, the town has a big Korean influence, which
I thought.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Was that was probably from that's where we probably came.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You got.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like, obviously you haven't been back to Russia since you won,
but do you have quite a big back to Russia
or you've been back there, just.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Just haven't been to the How how.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You received in Russia? Do you do you have a
big following there? I think so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think so. The thing the thing with my dad,
it's very strange, like he's he's very well known in Russia,
like David Beckham, really type type level in Russia. So
it's it's that type of that type of life and
profile that he's got there. And when we lived there,
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me and my brothers, we sort of had that that
weird privilege, I'd say, but we're not because we were
brought up in Australia, we're not. We weren't used to it.
That's that's one of the things that made us want
to come back to Australia.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I met your dad about a month after your dad
and your mum defected, and he was at the Newcastle
Races with Johnny Fight coming up there and and first
thing like you the really dark eyes. He shook my hand.
Honestly it was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Strong handshake, strong handshake. I noticed the same thing when
I thought you were like power moving broken.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But house preparation has.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Been Tim, it's been good. It's been good. It's been
all six weeks back and forth from from us, so
it's been it's been quite good. Boys fly in from
America and I've had another guy flying from from New
Zealand talk South Paw emulate that type of story, is.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That when you're when you're getting a sparring partner, do
you try to get someone who is similar as similar
as possible, even height wise?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, because to be difficult with Vondora.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, he's a tall man, right.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, So the boys are six for four South Paws
tall rangy. So that's what we're going with.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow, do you tim when you go into camp? Like
I remember hearing stories about Marvin Hagler. Marvin Hagler would
hire the whole floor of a hotel and would basically
go into exile. What extent do you do as far
as camps concerned.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't like to overthink too much and try and
keep it not balanced, that'd say. I'd say, just somewhere
where I can go home and just be relaxed, you know,
not thinking about boxing NonStop. Otherwise it's it becomes too much.
You sort of just rock up on fight night and
you want to be ready like that, you know. So Yeah,
(08:50):
for me, I don't. I don't need to get out there.
I used to go to America and be around around
it all, but it wasn't It wasn't for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
being around boxing twenty four hours is too much training.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, well I can only imagine some of the people too. Yeah.
I mean, let's face it to him, everyone wants something
off you, like taking a little piece that's fatigued.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, of course, of course, and just being a home
sometimes is just a bit more relaxing, you know, more
of peace.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
July twenty MGM grand amazing card. Trying to think, you know,
as good a card, you know, as far as the
strains are concerned, because of course, Pakio's come out of
time for Barrios. I remember Jeff Fanik when he fought
to Zoom and Nelson for the first time. That was
the undercard to Mike Tyson's first fight when he got
out of the Colonel Clink against Raddick. But this is
(09:43):
an amazing opportunity, Paki, How what what's it? What's it
been like knocking around with Many?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
His aura, you know when he when he walks in,
you feel sort of feel his presence. It's pretty it's
pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Have you Is this your first time eating you before?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I did a bit of sparring with him. Yeah, so
I go according to to work with him for two
weeks in the Philippines. Is that is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is that weird? Because he's he's forty six now he'd
be closer to your old like to questions age, is
that weird? Has he had a conversation where he's like
it's a bit surreal for him to nah, he hasn't
said that.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
No, he doesn't say much. I'll be honest. Really, yeah,
he doesn't say much. He's uh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, that must have been an experience being in the
Philippines with Many. You're talking about the level of fame.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, it was. It was it was.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Like a like a god wow, you know, like the
cricketers in India kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
May this this? I mean, Paki how is what has given?
Like the Filipinos like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You know, yeah, pressed he was going for presidentship?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Was he going for president?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, well him, but he he wouldn't walk the streets
of Philippines. You can't even No, no, she made me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Sleep on the couch last night.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what, you know why I slept on? So
he lost his credit card right down at the beach somewhere,
and he's looking for ages. Mum ends up canceling it.
The moment she cancels it, as it always does, someone
messaged me saying, oh, it's turned up at the pub.
I can tell your dad. Someone's found it at the pub.
So he's obviously been around the pub too. And then
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and then he cracked the ships because she canceled it
for him.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
No, no, no, I cracked the ships because before that
she kept asking questions, going, have you traced your steps?
And I went, yeah, I have. What did you do
with the last time I paid for coffee? Oh? What
sort of coffee? Just man, what sort of coffee? I've
lost my credit card. It just went on and on
and so forth. So I' a bit tied around the neck.
But yeah, but but yeah, but many that that level
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of fame there. I had a friend who was flying
from the Philippines to the US and they're sitting on
the plane and they said, sorry, there's delay delayed two
hours because many peck hours he was running lay for
the plane.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
They just kept you know, when I when I came
to the Philippines, there was just a massive line at
the airport. One of the customs officers in the in
the Philippines comes tim come straight through. They grabbed my
bags and I'm straight into the car. I've got a
bit of Filipino spending money straight to me, straight into
(12:34):
the hotel. And I was like, oh, this is this
is good, this is not.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I might move over.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What did you What did you learn sparring?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I wouldn't say much about the sparring. The first time,
first time we met, were standing face to face from
each other about the spa. So so that was unreal.
But yeah, I was I wasn't allowed to go full
hard yep, I was allowed to. I was trying to
have to have to try to imitate Keith thurmant Or, okay,
(13:06):
and I'm not used to that. So it was a
cool experience being around it all. But to continue on
in terms of my career, wasn't going to do too much?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What did you you were your warn not to go
too hard? Was the same warning given to him.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Or no, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, did he go pretty hard?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, okay, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
He would like he would he would take off the
whole round and then like in the end he would
like pick it up in the last thirty seconds. He
comes out with these spurts.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Because he's going he's forty six, He's going to break
his own record. He's trying to break his own record
as the oldest weldweight champion. Yeah, he's as a boxer.
How like give us a bit of an insight. How
hard is that going to be? Like how big a
mountains that for him to close?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think it's I think it's the biggest mountain right
now for him. You know, like he's done his eight
division world champion, which is crazy old record status. But
to be who is fighting Marios, Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, he's made. He's he's some sort of fighter and man.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, and forty six. It's unfortunately it's a hard age.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, we even see like look at the UFC, even
even Volk he just he just won thirty six is
the oldest in that division, and chatting with him even
he was like that was that was so I had
to train so hard because give him my age. Man,
he's got ten years.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Say that there's saying boxesn't you can grow all overnight?
See that? We fighters, Yeah, fighters very often after their
greatest victory can just exhale a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Did I see a video as well of you as
a kid and like as Manny Paki was walking out
to a fight and he waved it you like you
came out to him. What was the deal with that?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Two thousand and nine, I went to watch Pato MGM
grand We're on fire now. It's always been a big
dream one. Yeah, And we were near the entrance and
I was screaming out team back out, back out, back out,
and he sort of looked up and he was looking
around like I remember, for the rest of my.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Life, I've never seen them like packing out. When are
you beau to go out there? Like it's just so
happy to yea over that time. But you see when
you had the lead singer Survivor singing Ey the Tiger
and he's just walking behind him and he's looking.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
So funny is that Has that been crazy for you?
Like it like obviously you flew over there to SPA
and that first time you meet him, are you like, like,
did you tell him that was you and the crowd?
Did you tell him about that moment.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And he remembers about the crowd?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah? That guy. Do you know when you get people sometimes,
tim do you remember fifteen years Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, did you tell him like the moment? Did you
be like Actually, when I.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Was a kid, I didn't tell him you don't want
to be you don't want to don't like that. Other
guys that used to tell me that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, do you run into have you had much to
do with like some of the greatest legends in fight's history,
Because I imagine amongst even though there's lots of trash
talk and stuff the boxing world, there must be I
feel like a real community of visual respect.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And the crazy thing is like being in the boxing
scene now in America, like being just amongst it and
around it. Even going to the fights the other day,
it was just like you see all these top boxes
from from different divisions and different errors, and they're all
recognizing You're saying hi to you and You're like, that's
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that's the biggest trip out for me. Like that was
like these guys that I've watched throughout the years and
they're coming up to you and saying that's how much
they like your style and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Just the best in every sport team they know the sport.
I love it with Mike Tyson might. Tyson just knows
the history of fighting and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But it's like kinds of Fury. Yeah that next to
Tyson Fury my brother's fight. And we start talking. He's like, man,
I watched your fight against Tony Harrison. He goes, I
loved it, and I'm like, no, wait what you watched
my fight? Yeah, I'm tripping now and I'm like, no way, watchful.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Listened to a podcast. A guy who gave you a
really good rap was Ricky Hatton. Ricky was talking about
you know where he beat your dad in Manchester that
night and then he was like, spoke after it and
he said, I got to give a rap. He said
there were no excuses. Costure was really grateful. He's a
great guy and he said I saw his son Tim
fight really and what do you say, Oh, yes, t
(17:39):
lad MAT's got got heavy hands.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Has people that your dad's fought have they like through
your journey as people reached out or like you have
come across.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, we saw each other at the Charlo phone and
it was cool to just connect, you know how.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He with the mask, he was cool.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah. Yeah, he's turned his life around. He's like a nurse, Neil,
is he really Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, he's he's turned into a nurse and yeah he's
doing he's doing great.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah. I remember like when your dad fought him, he
was considered at the point he was in the argument
best panther pan Fi. Yeah, well when your dad dropped him,
he was never the same fighter again.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, he actually became an undisputed champ.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did he really?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah didn't he didn't he get like he got banned
for a bit for touching the raft, right, he.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Went up the division and beat Cory Spinks and became
undisputable champion.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Disappeared afterwards.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, it must have been when dad started drinking. Have
you got a did you have a hero when you
were growing up like fighting wise?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Uh? Roy Roy Jones? Yeah, yeah, yeah really, but then
when growing up in the in the teen teenagers, it
was I used to always watch Floyd Mayweather and yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Do you like because when you when you have a
league players listen to this will understand. Like when you
have a hero going up, you try to like you
always try to play the same position as them, and
like in juniors and try to adopt some of their
habits in boxing, Is that the same, like different styles
that you try to adopt.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah. I was always trying to do a bit of floid.
Yeah yeah, not obviously outside but inside the ring. The
way he used to box was like for me, it
was like perfection, you know. I always looked up to him.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Used to be funny. You go to to the public
gyms like fitness first you go up there and when
Floyd was you know, firing. Yeah, you used to get
blokes and they put the mits on stuff and everyone
had their hands around their waist, you know. All I said,
why doesn't want to be costing? Sebastian, I'll ask you
(19:53):
a question here. And I've always of the belief there's
a difference between the smart thing and the right thing,
And I've times the smart thing is oftentimes dictated by
other people. The right thing is something that just exists
within you. Now with the fondora fault and you had
the head cut. Everyone went, well, the smart thing was
to go bang, you know, I don't know, declared a drawer,
(20:17):
I went to the card. I'm not sure at what
point of the fight it was, but for you, in
you was the right thing to continue to fight.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, like even to this day, like you when I
just said, like I was at these fights and you
got the legends saying how much of a fighter you are?
You know, and it's all because of what you show,
you know, what you what I did on that on
that given night, and forever be forever be lived.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
The response, like the response that you got from that,
because obviously you got beat but I imagine you would
have gained a lot of a huge response and respect
from the fighting community, like we people reaching out from
after that fight a bit.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, there was a lot of respect, Yeah, respect, the
fact that the amount of blood that I went through
was crazy and to be to keep fighting on.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You know, I like this the other day. The human
body actually hasn't got that much blood in it, but actually,
well most human bodies haven't got that much blood in it.
Like I think it's something like and I might be
wrong here, probably hang on. Jack's holding up seven leaders,
eight leaders, Okay, it's eight leaders of blood in it,
which that's not that much.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
With that fight.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I remember watching that fight. You would have gone through
about two or three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
There was that much after, did you feel? Yeah? Right,
because that's what they do. You know what they do
with horses. Back in the old days with the horses.
They used to blood horses. They used to train them
like choke the horse with but now they used put
it around, get it. So the vein the juggle vane
needs to prick the jae Levan it lose all this
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blood and go and lay down, fall asleep, and the
next day get up and regenerated. So that's what I'm
saying is to him. Have you ever thought about.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Is that all it takes sports science? Sports science has evolved.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But Fandora that that fight, I reckon. I'm not going
to say I reckon? Do you reckon? He would be
incredibly at the moment apprehensive, given the fact that when
you watch that fight, like I could see until the headcut,
the confidence was just draining out of him and it
was just basically a matter of time.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's what he wants to rewrite.
That's his motivation, you know, is that because his victory
was sort of overshadowed by the fact that what was
happening inside the ring, you know. And I think that's
that's his biggest motivation. And for me, my biggest motivation
is what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It's like Rocky, like the last Rocky where the last
of where he's he he no one expects him to win,
and he gets in there and he rips in and
then the other guy, the modern he was like the
modern Antonio Tabor.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He he beats him, but everyone like claps Rocky out,
Like Rocky was the one who was more respected. I
imagine for fun Door.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For one second, it was a movie, not a documentary.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No, no, no. But for me, this is the this
is the thing, Tim, It's the message that that movie conveys. Okay,
the message that movie conveyed that touched my heart and
I'm sure it touched many hearts across Australia.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like after it, did.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You sense anything from fun Door? Like have you did
you speak to him after the fight?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Really a well, we sort of interacted straight after the fight. Yeah,
where he came and gave me the belt back. Yeah, uh,
and that's what that was about it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, Well, like you know, boxing, Tim like to move
in the outsider. I might have completely wrong. He looks
like a really sort of nice sweet guy. You're you're
a technician as a fighter. How much do you have
to get yourself or do you have to demonize the
other fighter or can you just clinically just go about
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your work emotionless?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, there is no emotion right, Yeah, the the emotion
ones are actually harder, you know, So the fact that
there's no emotion in it?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you always been like that, like as a kid,
like even in Where does that come from?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I don't know, because there's lots of Like there's lots
of footy players who I look at and they have
the same, very much the same demeanor as you. Like
Nathan Clear is kind of that one as well, like
very technical and like not much like not much emotion,
and it benefits him in big moments because he can
calm himself down under pressure and he's able to execute.
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Like is that something that you trained? Like, I know
you work a lot with mental coach and stuff. Is
that something that you trained or is that certain of
your identity.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think I think it's a bit of birth. Yeah, well, yeah,
I think it's a bit of birth. And I think
with the fund door that I did sort of lose
control as soon as the as soon as the cut happened,
I went into my into someone that I'm not rather
than being very methodical. And when you.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Couldn't see it was like putting Stevie Wonder in the Yeah,
that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did did the doctor look answered? He checked it out?
Did he did? He want to stop the fight?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But I'm not sure I was. I was actually in
my head. I was thinking that this fight would be stopped.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah right, yeah, how did? How is your mom watching?
I mean, your poor mom, she's going she's going through
it three times? Yeah, you know costure, she must be
just going.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
She's not watching, she doesn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Just it's just too much.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I think it's a bit heavy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Has your brother going to it? Because he's been I
remember coming on coming to show. Your brother's got a
sixth cent of humor. Yeah, it looks like he's got
a sixth cent to you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
When he's on the show talking about where he had
a chocolate milk and I had it. I went back
and and he like, God, I think he's just a
sinuated he.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Has Oh man, if you two got a good relationship,
like how hell must of you guys hang out outside
not much keeping, you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Know, is cool. He's just we're into two different things.
You know. He's a rule.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Bush was like hunting and that.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
No, just just goes out there. He just goes for
a walk with his dogs. Yeah, it's a rule.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Is he married, Niki?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yes he is. He is. Yeah, he had a low
key wedding without telling anyone. Mom found out from the
from from the newspaper.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
She called me, do you know what's funny?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Begin to get married?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, this is something we share in common because Matthew's
brother Andrew John's same thing. Bring us. One day, I
was just he was in Bali or something, right, he
was overseas, and he goes, I just got married. This
was like four months ago. And then they came out
in the paper later.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And we were like, at least cool, thanks, that's right.
Likely apetually it's first marriage, is yeah, third time. She's
a nice girl, she's a chance.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, she's also make sure we look that he's married.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Life count for you.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It's good. It's good. Yeah, the same for me and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Trust media, you'll be on the Sundays and Diamonds most days.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The Stones.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Were just joking very much back to the FA fight
after what was that period like after because you how
long did it take for you to get back in
the ring after that fight? It was pretty soon, right.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, it took a bit because I had still had
the cut to sort of let it heal. Yeah, But
I was in Hawaii for like two weeks and I
came back and went to Thailand and started prepping for
a fight against Victor Virgil Waitsis. Yeah, and then that
got postponed because of my cut still hasn't healed. And
then yeah, then I went to America and for it.
I think it was October.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, right. That's that's the reason. Another reason Timmy just
get so much respect, not just from the fight community,
everyone is the fact that you stay active and the
fact that, like you know, you're prepared for Keith Thurman,
Thurman pull that broken broken hand and all of a sudden,
Fandora you've been preparing for just someone completely different. You
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still take the fight.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, Yeah, And that's that's the best thing about this
camp is that I've actually had time to to actually
slow things down, be able to work on things, work
on the mistakes, work on things that don't work, find
out stuff that don't work, find out stuff that works,
and be able to, yeah, to work on them.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Do you how much? How much take do you do?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I don't do too much?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, I don't like to watch too much.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Are the fighters that do that like watch a lot
of video really? Yeah, and analyze like.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
What they analyze everything? Really, I try and understand see
what he's going to understand it? Understand it?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Or what about for yourself? Like do you watch a
lot of fights back and see like how you might
have handled a scenario or your own sort of fighting
style a little bit more so than watching an opponent.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I like to watch boxing in general, but
I don't really like to watch opponents on my soul.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Do you like watching your brother?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You don't like that?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
No, Like is that it's just stressful because you've just
got this style?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Poe always?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Would it be like, is it stressful as a brother
to watch your brother fight?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like you get nervous in that?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah? First fight, I was shoulding myself. I'll be honest.
I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how
to feel. I had to just like try to relax myself,
calm myself down. Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
He certainly drags opponents into every time we fight, it's
it's eventful. Yeah, he loves to war.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Who are the fighters you really like watching these days?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
These days? Uh m hm, no one, there's heavyweights. I
don't mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my favorite fight at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He's animal and it's funny like chubby boy, chubby boy.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, it doesn't have like the typical like Anthony Joshua Mexican.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeh monster. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is there any like Giopatyre in Australian boxing because he
broke that guy's jawel the up day.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know what a gentleman there like broke his jaw
then went organized the bloke to organize his doctor to
operate on did he afterwards?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It was good drinking it through a straw.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Mate.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
The funny thing about Giant, So in twenty twenty, we
had a big trip for the Storm after our season
to Byron Bay and me and Brandon Smith. There's a
beautiful pie shop and it's like the kebab store. It
stays open all night, so after a few beers you
can go there and get a pie. And Gie was
there and he come up, was talking to us, mate,
and he hadn't I don't even think he'd had a
(31:51):
professional fight yet. But we knew he was a boxer
because like I think Brandon, Brandon watches boxing a lot.
He's got a good fighter, street fighter. And this blow
come up to guy and mate, I don't know what
it is with drunk punners and wanting to when they
know someone's a good fighter, wanting to try to get
them to fight him. This bloke would not leave him
alone and was going after him, after him, and Brandon
(32:14):
was like, what are you doing? Like you're gonna get
killed if he turns lucky. He's pretty like he was
just telling them like piece off. Mate, I didn't really
buy it, buy it, but mate, after watching him knock
that bloke out the other day, looking back on that moment, that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Bloke could have. You know, some blokes deserve to be
knocked out, you know what I mean. But you're right,
you do you ever get that? Do you ever get
people coming up drunks.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Maybe because I'm not in that scene. Yeah right, not
in that scene, So I don't really don't.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Really, you're not really a drinker. No, no, Like after
a fight with really, how do you unwind? Like, how
do you celebrate a fight post fighter?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Just just relaxed with with a few friends and that's it.
We're just get something to you.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You're like the perfect human. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That's that's very like.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's I imagine a lot of fighters after a long
training camp, they want to blow off steam.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Do you not.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
You don't really don't, don't have the urges, don't have
the feeling. Yeah, it's done.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
You must just be happy.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Said about the Mexican monster, like the Mexican the Mexican
fighters like that. You know, you watching Alvarez of course,
all how many Mexicans you have? You thought, and yeah,
oh yes, okay, you cleaned him up pretty quick. Remember
they call your dad the executioner.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, you had a few spared, a few tough, tough, tough.
They hit hard as well, and the style is just
very rugged. You know, you're always in for hard and
hard spy. Good to the body as well.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Right, one of the one of my mates. He actually
just leaves up the road. He's Australian, but he's from
Mexican background, Australian fighter Mateo Tapia.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah he's of course.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, yeah, he's a bloody good fighter.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah. And like you said, I've spied hundreds and hundreds
of rounds with him.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, he's a good Like you said, they've got a
certain style, right, like he loves like he drops a
lot of blokes by going to the body.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, Wow, he's got a good body show. He's hit
me a couple of times in the body and.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You're just like, that's a Mexican trade around the body.
Yeah right, Vez I saw. It's a real shame of
his son's fighting ja Jake Paul.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Fuck just you know, look he should beat the ship there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I mean when you look at these influencer boxes, right Paul,
Logan Paul and Jake Paul even like KSI those guys
get in, do you look at them and kind of
go like, are they good fighters?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Or I don't think they're bad? Yeah, Okay, they're having
a good little crack at it. Yeah, I don't think
what's his name, Logan Paul's good, He's pause all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Okay, do you see like, obviously it's shaman ship, right,
they're making money, yadyada. But do you look at it
from a boxing point of view and go like it's
a little disrespectful to the sport or it's just or
is it good for the sport?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, it's actually not bad. Yeah, like it brings more eyes.
I think Jack Paul's doing a good job. He's he's
trying to take over women's boxing.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He signed all the women and giving them a good pay,
so you know, if that's what it takes, then good
on him.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You know, he said before the changing face of boxing
isn't like the showmanship and everything. I must say when
Logan Paul fought Floyd Mayweather, it was so frustrating because
he was just taking the piss and you know what
I mean, he must be clever Floyd, given the fact
that he goes to all these exhibition fights around the
world and he never really does a job on any
(35:57):
of them. I suppose if he does others.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
They were yeah, yeah, yeah, what about like the Mike
Tyson verse Jake Paul one, which we were watching it
and we were kind of we almost felt bad for
Mike given his age and like where he was at physically.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But yeah, no, no, no, I just I know you mean,
like I really felt for like after it when you
when he was biting his glove and that, it was
almost like it's really strange. It was almost like a
young kid with insecurity, you know what I mean? Do
you get that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But like those and obviously it's a big payday, right
and it's a big for showmanship, but like did you
do you look at that and go like, oh that
was hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, that's just because it was Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, everyone's hero right exactly.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And you could tell he couldn't perform the way he
could perform, just because when you get in the ring
there's so many people and your your body shuts down,
you know, your your hands can't throw any more. You
go through a combo and you're completely gas. That's what happens,
you know, And that's exactly what he went through.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Its fund isn't when they're so good, the networks are
now building fights with promos and that that you actually
all the way through Mike Tyson and Jake Paul's are
going fuck. Tyson's going to get him and then all
of a sudden, the fight started. Fuck, they've got me.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I knew that. I knew that straight away. I knew
it couldn't couldn't could.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, because they market it well, like they released videos
of him on the pads and he he looks good.
Dad was gone, Mate, Mike's going to get.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Him a killer, mate was talking about it. Yeah it
was Jeff. Anyone said. When Jeff trained Mike for a
little stint, he said he had all these hang hangers
on around him. It was really hard to keep Mike focused,
and he said the other thing was mine. Mike was
just focusing purely on power. He said to the point
that Jeff likes a high work rate, you know, and
(37:45):
he was. He said made. He'd do two or three punches,
and then he turned to one of his hands like
hangers on and go, how that looks good? And Jeff
was saying, fucking come on, keep it looking looking for brakes.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, right, Hey.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
That's that's the featherweight. It's style like like Jeff Finick
you yeah, yeah, a lot of punches just heavyweight. You
can't you can't throw them any punches.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Some of the have you seen some of the old
Jeff fights on.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The yeah, fucking NonStop.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It's fucking unbelievable. I saw the one report Victor Collasius
how today the Puerto Rican and they're just like they're
just headbutting each other and elbow and each other. If
it's unbelievable. Apparently the referee in that collagious head butter
Jeff had he head butts him back. He said, hey,
fellas blah blah blah. Then collacious headbuts in the end
(38:34):
and he pulled him in a suit. Is that Why?
Is that what we're going to do. If that's why
you want to fight, go for it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'll just let him go.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Just let him go, mate. You should see how brutal
it is. They after the fight, Johnny Lewis said, Jeff
had like about twenty like golf ball lumps on the
top of the head of os. Just let them go.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Newcast I want to talk about Newcastle re Sectors. Newcastles,
We've got a strong connection as our family. It looks
like a place that you love to fight. You know,
they call it zoo Castle. Up there, you just be
Joseph Spencer. Up there is your last fight. What does
that community feel for you?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Up there. Like. Look when I went out in the
Dennis Hogan fight, like to the stadium with the crowd,
I was like, it was crazy. It was just crazy.
I've never experienced such a thing that they really get
behind you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I felt like a like it was a hometown for me,
you know, and I don't Rember. I'll always have that
connection there, especially my dad. Yeah, Dad's history there, Nikita,
what Nikita's done there as well, So you know, it's
a big family legacy for us.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It used to be big nights when your dad thought
there put Roger Mayweather through the ropes. Yea, some great
fights now before we let you go, mate the bunnies,
your bunnies, you're.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
A big set.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
They're done, right. Have you been watching You're a new
feeing growing up?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
And then yeah, why because your dad was fighting the
I really liked Andrew, you know, it looked at me like,
(40:22):
no way, So what was your favorite player?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah? I remember watching the movie he had the.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Movie Yeah, yeah, the one with Nike and he was
like practicing kicking and that is that that one thinks
it was like a training documentary.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I remember it always on in our TV at home.
So I always used to like, uh yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Good photos of you and your dad a little Swallows restaurant.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah with Joey. Yeah really you go to
dinner with him and that once.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think I think he might have I think Costume
might have caught up with Joey recently in the country.
Did Joey said Joey's life?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Did you guys ever think about like inviting dad to
those you did you see a couple of weeks where
Joey caught up with Cursor. You don't remember Cursor, the
Australian Rapper. Did you see that picture? So it was
(41:27):
game two sad of Origin and they must have both
been at the airport and Curse has taken a selfie
with Joey and put it up mate if you I
don't want to allude to some of the stuff that
people were commenting on it, but there was lots of
comments to elicit substances, pingers and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Correct get the ideas in your head. It was that weird.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I was going, this is such a strange combination these
two together.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
He was coming in the rabbits basically talking about all his.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, yeah, they were having like there was like an
argument that took place in the comments at one stage
of who took who took more pingers. But here's the
thing Joey and Curser were commenting on it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Now tim to finish with. We're going to do a
thing called loan Survivor SOP. I'm not good explaining, Okay,
So what's going to happen is Dad will give you
one second. You just give me a pen. I'm going
to eliminate one person because he spoke about Roy Jones
is in the list, and that because that'll be a spoiler.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay, sweet, So Dad will give you to two fighters
and you pick who would you rather, and it goes
down to the list until there is one loan survivor
and that is the winner of it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Fighters. You you're meyer and love the most throughout history.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And he's just ripped Roy Jones off.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I took it off because as soon as I say
Roy Jones, you're just going to tear through the list. Okay,
first one to really use you one Robert A Duran
or Jake Paul Dan. Yeah, how good? Roberto Duran Sugar a.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Leonard Oh Duranne.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Roberto Duran Marvin Hagler, Duran Duranne, Tommy Hearns. There's the
four Kings. You see that how good is incredible? Roberto
Duran triple Gnadie Glofkin triple G, Okay triple G, Jeff
Fennick triple G, triple G, Oscar de la Hoya triple G,
triple G, Julia Caesar Chavez triple G, Canelo Alvarez t G,
(43:35):
triple G, Floyd Mayweather O triple G, triple G. Mike Tyson,
Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, Mini pak Ya, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson,
Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, cost your Zoo July
(43:59):
twenty mgm Grand Yeah, Sebastian Vanda two point zero.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It's going to be on main event. I get it
via your ko or Fox Tell mate, thanks for coming on.
Last question, is there any real player that you think
is because a lot of them try their hand of boxing,
Are there any of them that you think are actually?
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I reckon that a car but Foxes I said, we
had Foxy on a few weeks ago and he doesn't
remember when we did rehab training.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
One time when we're both injured, they put gloves on him.
He can fight.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I've seen him through some hands on the street.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
His grandfather Wally one let even eleven time national champion,
eleven different divisions. Well incredible. Yeah, he's quick, he's quick
man quick as oh yeah, he's quick.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Not quick with
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Thanks, appreciate you coming over, man,
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