July 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Tom Starling joins the boys for a wild episode full of laughs, inside stories, and 2025 Raiders chat.They prank-call Adam Elliott and take a hilarious trip down memory lane.
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0:00-Brodie Jones’ Dad
1:00-Adam Elliot Prank
5:00-Pranks
9:00-Canberra
12:15-Roommates
19:15-Ricky v Cooper
21:15-Teams to Beat
22:15-Katoa
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We were known to.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We were reminiscing on some pranks upstairs before a couple
that I wanted to bring up Brody Jones. Shout out
to Brody who plays up the Newcastle Knights. Obviously we
used to do a prank quite regularly where we would
ring up as his dad and we would yeah, we
would he's dad, Glenn Jones, and we would ring different
teammates at the Knights of him and say, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Mate, it's Glenn Jones.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We just wanted to wish you a happy birthday on
random days when it wasn't their birthday, and then start
singing happy birthday to him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And I can't remember we used to get but they'd
be like, oh mate, birthday. They go, thanks, thanks Glenn,
but it's actually not my birthday.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Make sure we finished the whole song. That'd be trying
to bart in, but make sure we just keep singing
the song.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And if Starlo was on the phone being Glenn, I
was off phone being.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Brody and he goes, oh, sorry, Brody.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Told me he was your birthday, and he was going, Brody, Brody,
it's not his birthday and I go, oh sorry, dad, sorry,
goes Bloody Brodie Brody.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Like coin of make your request, we cansert it into
the podcast. Can we give that a go straight after
this interview?
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah if it works, If not, cut it, yeah,
snippet to me forget Elliot Elliott.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, actually doesn't have my numb but they be trained.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
He's injured. He's injured. We'll try it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Receive you can get Adam Elliot clet Jones.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You've seen the whole birthday?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Hello Adam, there you go, mate? Is Glenn Jones, Brodie's dad?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hey mate, there you're going good.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Brother.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Brady was just telling me it's your birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, no, my birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
He was just saying, it's your birthday. We're going to
sing happy birthday for you.
Speaker 8 (01:56):
Happy birthday too, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear right,
Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Brady was saying, it's your birthday, his birthday. Who's you saying?
Speaker 9 (02:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Not this another?
Speaker 8 (02:25):
Oh sorry, that's all right?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Oh my, sorry about that, mate. Here's how's your here's
your partner gone?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah she's good, mate, she's gone great.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah, make good us as here's your bicet Yeah yeah
I thought so. Yeah yeah yeah mate, just keep doing
your rehab and looks like you'll be you'll be back
sooner rather than later. Mate, it's good to good to
see you when you're back out on the field.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
I miss you.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
Er brother, right, happy birthday?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Don't get on your brother, my gotcha. I didn't even
tell him leave this only so stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's Cooper John were he would he with Dad and
Starlow and everyone.
Speaker 9 (03:43):
I'll do.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
And then I'm going this is up again.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh my sorry I was. You were so nice about it.
You're just gonna let you go.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh you're actually were Actually we're.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just Brody goes on the day before.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh that's so good. Anyway, we'll let you go.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy birthday, mate, Happy birthdays. Appreciate appreciate the school one too.
I'll drink that worked out. Well, there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now we'll go back to the interview. We also used
to get one of Jack's mates, Jayden Marfu. Now, hangover
pranks are probably the best kind of phone call prank
because you alway feel a bit silly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Little bit alcohol lovely. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
One of Jack's mates, Marfu, got quite intoxicated and was
carrying on a little bit around about the northern Beaches
in the off season, Starlow was down and Star He goes, oh,
we should get him, we should get him, and you
come up with this character.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, we just made I've made up. We've got some
footage of you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You wrote it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Still, Yeah, we had it. We had it this way,
We'll go this way. We really had him on, had
him on toast and he was hung the phone up
and we all started pissing ourselves laughing while you could
hear the fear and his voice, the poor fellow.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We rang him.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Ten minutes later he was in the car on the
way to dy police station, ready to turn himself in
because we said that we had him on CCTV footage running.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
A cab mate.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Another prank call.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Now, are you allowed to You told us an excellent
prank just before on one of your Raiders teammates, because
you are a prank star.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Can we disclose that one?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, we can disclose that one. He's don't hate me
for it, but I just do it. So Matthew Nicholson,
a new English import, young fellow. He's only twenty one,
sol of the earth he is. He's a great But
we've got to let him know that he's swimming with
the shafts now and he's a bit he's bit nove
to what's happening anyway, you know the Swish, the Swish
(06:03):
account things, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So you send a video, someone pays you and you
send a video to.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
The factor on half a million dollars in fact, you
wanted to take fifty bucks of horns.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, a bit of a small percentage going to yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I think it's about fifty percent actually, because Joey does it,
your brother does it, and he charges an armament. Yeah. God. Anyway,
So Maddie, Maddie's you know, he's played a couple of
really good games the first grade and he's bounced around,
chest out anyway. So he's coming one day and we're
(06:33):
sitting in the sauna and he's gone off, just start
up my Swish account. How good is that? Mate, that's awesome?
He goes, yeah, charging George one hundred books and I'm like,
one hundred quid, mate, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Pupa down a bit anyway, So he brings it down
and a couple of days go by and mate, have
you got any any swishes? No? Swishes that met anyway.
So this was Captains one before Magic Ground. So I've
(06:54):
come in and I've it's like bold man, I've went
on order order a swish under an alias. So I've
gone so you're right it up and you can see
where it comes from, Like what what the request is? Anyway?
So I've gone to Hi, Maddie. My wife's a massive
fan of yours. Ever since your debuted, she's been obsessed
with us. She refers to you as Maddie Muffins and
(07:16):
it's her birthday. Can you please sing a happy birthday
and refer to yourself as Maddie Muffins. And so I've
put this in off. It's charged me sixty bucks or
whatever it was that that I was sitting there. It
was before training, and I've told a few of the
boys and we're all like laughing, like there's no way
he forced for this, like Maddie Muffins, Like there's no
way anyway. So he's so we we've finished training and
(07:36):
he's coming and we're all sitting around in the changing
room and he's looking at his phone. We're like, well,
looking over it and going has he seen it? Has
he seen it? Anyway? So he walks out the front
and then Morgan, his housemate and fellow englishman's come back
from the car car park and Maddie's walking out, and
Maddie walked past and goes, I've just got my first
Swiss on fucking bosn' stop talking about it anyway. So
(07:56):
he's walked out there straightaway. Morgans comes running in and
he's he's doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So he's we're.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Sitting there, we're all more fine, and it pops up.
Your swishes come through, mate, and it was and he's
referred to himself as hey, it's hate too. So this
this made up girl I made was Kathy. Hey Kathy,
it's Maddie Muffins here. I just want to wish you
a massive happy birthday and then sings the whole happy
Birthday song to him, stitches and then as and then
he's hopping the cars. We'll go on to the airport for
(08:24):
Magic Ground and then I'll just put it straight in
their group chat group WhatsApp group chat and said thanks
for them, thanks for the message, muffin or something like that.
He just went pale wide apparently he just had nothing
to come back to, but all weight it was all
Muffins and then we went against Melbourne up there at
Magic Ground. The last clip that Stick showed was the
Maddie Muffins video. I sent it to him. So I've
got one request this week, Stick, I want this played
(08:46):
and the teammate and it was all time. So that's
that's his new nickname.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
May He's good.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, he's a good player. Man won to.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You can get some good English back rolls at the Raiders,
you were saying before, Elliot Whitehead, Johnny Bateman, Madi Nichols.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well that started that they have. The Raiders have been
the best club at adapting for recruitment. They used to
get all their players or most of them out of
Brisbane as of South's Brisbane, so Melmourninger, Gary Coyn, Belcher,
Peter Jackson. So it just goes on and on. When
the Broncos come in, that dried up. So Tim Sheen's
for the Raiders went to New Zealand signed Reuben Wiki,
(09:27):
Quentin Ponga, Johnny Lomax. Then all of a sudden the
Warriors coming to the competition and scouted around for but
now have found those English players, batch of English players, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Similar conditions that from makes them. Yeah, morning one minus two, so.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I have an advantage for you. Made it was it
was going down there playing those great Raiders sides in
the middle of the nineties and playing on Friday night
a football We played a minus six one night. Oh fuck, and.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The locker rooms are cold.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They're still like they're all like brick and like you're
in they're just feeling so uncomfortable down there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's that's well. We can use the word advantage just
if we're playing good football, like making it real tough.
But if we're not playing good yeah, it's not going
to be much of advantage. Teams will just come down
and roll. But we've we've made it a real real
focus for this year. We've been we've been poured home
the last few years. So we've made it a real
focus to try and make make that that that a
tough road trip again.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Your training, your track suits and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He lets us train throughout the week, but captains run,
it's you're run out there and whatever you're wearing in
that game. He made a real real focus of it
on this on the past week the weekend because it
was freezing cold, and he said no, no, no skins tops.
You get out there and you're you get ready to go.
So but he's he's getting a bit old too, so
he likes the rugg himself up. I do remember one
(10:44):
session down there, This is a few years ago. It
was a Captains run and it was like it was
the worst I've seen Camber. It was like raining, windy raining.
It was like almost sleep in the air. It was
like minus two or something like that. It was horrible.
It was raining. We ran out there for Captains run
and it was like shivering cold, like everyone was rugged.
Doune walks out there and we did. We started warming
up and Sticks you could see Stick was hating and
(11:04):
you know what you're fucking doing. Yeah, it's going side.
It went up into the game, so that yeah, it's
he's he's You.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Get snow there, like does it snow in camera?
Speaker 9 (11:14):
Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah? I mean you get like a like a small
layer at certain parts of the year, but it's not
like in the morning like you do you got that
that ice frost.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You've you've seen the game in ninety ninety nine, haven't you?
Two thousand?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it was, yeah, yeah, the White Jerseys.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, there was a mirror of snot Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What what was the difference then? As to why then.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Just particularly particularly cold day and they had obviously up
in the snowy mountains had a downpour and the snow
and it just triggled into camera. So yeah, it was
a mirror of snow.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Wow, Tim Bailey, thanks for that.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The weather different, If that's what the difference cold, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I didn't know, like if there was a certain thing
that starts snow and like why ninety two thousand? Yeah,
well I thought somebody would Continu're going to dig it
up for you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Can I ask you?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Starlow?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You are a very tight knit group.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Canberra is a place because everyone always talks about Melbourne
when everyone goes to Melbourne. The culture and everyone's so
tight because no one's from there. Everyone moves there, hang out,
get coffees.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Is a very similar in camera, yeah, obviously. Yeah, it's
a lot more than Melbourne too. Like you if you
have drive, if you've driven more than twenty minutes, you're
like you're on the other side of Canberra. So all
the boys live pretty close together and everyone pretty much
has moved away from their their family and stuff all
that and creating their families down there, So it's a
really tight knit group. And it also helps that we're
(12:37):
we're all around the same age. You've got a couple
of the younger fellas, but there's also a pretty tight
knit group of us. They're around the same age, and
that's similar stages in our career and our lives. So mate,
it's it's a really good, really good environment down there.
It's a great place to live. I know people probably
don't look at it like that, but you know, once
you once you live down there, it's very nice place
to live. It's it's always clean, it's always it's always
(12:59):
easy to get around. It's really nice restaurants and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And Parliament House.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, you get a question cons down That was.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My next question. How many times have you been to Questacon?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Actually just the once when I went down there for
year six camp there. We drove actually I did, mean,
Hunter drove past it once to go in there, and
they were charging like twenty five bucks or something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm not going to are you serious?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Started a swish accout, Yeah, start a swish account, muff,
Yeah serious, twenty five bucks?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? Yeah, honestly, you should cut in half on a
school night, but I'll drink that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Seriously, I can't believe it. Did you find anything?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm waiting for YouTube to kick in. Typically at the
moment with your.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Wife, you get the Wi Fi passed.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't know what here.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
We gets working slowly.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You can you're gonna goog on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, probably just the game? Oh right, the white snows.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I thought he was googling as to why like it's snowed.
Then No, I thought that was that's a bit technical.
I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hey, what about do you have a roomy when you
go away?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, Hudson?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Is it always Hudson always? You guys room together for
a while.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah. Since coming, Yeah, I've only had probably a handful
of different roomors. There was one week that Huddah was
in I had and Huddles in Origin camp. I had
Hosco the other week, which is which is good. We're
obviously familiar with each other. But he's a bad Sleephosco Zachskin.
I try to be real quiet around him.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I don't know, he's nose mate stuck in the curtains.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, he's doing something, but so I tried to keep
it quietly. But yeah, I've had when Haddo was in
Origin camp a few years ago and Elliott Whitehead was
injured Jordan Rapana and so I've gone from having Hudson Young,
who professionally wakes up at all hours a night to
stretch and be a professional, to Jordan Rapana. And the
people that know Jordan Rapana were talking about because he's
(14:46):
come back from the shops online in bed just chilling out.
He's come back from seven eleven or something in the city,
and he's come back with a bag full of lollies
and treats and stuff like that. He goes my brother,
he wants some. So I was like, you know what,
when in right? So we're sitting there to see how
strapping but he's got the bag full while he's like
he loves it. Anyway, I was sitting there watching the Gulf.
I've drift off to sleep, and I'll wake up in
(15:06):
the middle of the night to turn the golf off
to the TV still still running, and I go up
to toilet, come back down and then I sort of
lay down for a little bit in here, a little
crunkling in the in the night, and I was like,
da I see him eating something? Is he still eating anyway,
I wake up. I just drift off to sleep. Wake
up in the morning, said did you wake up in
the middle of the night, started eating some food. He goes, yeah,
(15:28):
color melala, my bro, I got hungry.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He's a character, mate, wraps. I remember, funny you say
that because Kyle Weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I remember with Kay at Manly a few times when
we played a mudgy against the Knights against Jack and
I go. I was pretty tired, went to bed quite early,
and next door it was all the Kiwi boys and
Kay goes, I'm going to leave you here, Bro, I'm
just going to go next door and I was like, yes, sweet.
They were in there playing Call of Duty. I reckon
until about three am and scream. They were that loud
(16:01):
and chair hill and they were laughing. I was like,
I could not sleep all night, can come back in.
And then he was on FaceTime to his misses until
like four am.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I was like, okay, bro, we got to play.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I said, we're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Playing at like two pm to morow.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Jesus gone good.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Oh yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
The last month unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah yeah, he's like obviously
he's speed, but he's awareness for the game. He's getting
better week in week out, and obviously we've seen him
a little bit last year and seeing his blistering pace.
But I think he's positional as I don't think you've
really ever played fullback. I don't played more six, so
(16:38):
fullback's fairly new to him in recent times. So yeah,
he's just he's growing and his defensive stuff is in
behind the ball, has been really good on our goal line.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So a lot of people wouldn't know either, but he is.
And you'd be able to attest to this start pound
for pound one of the strongest.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
In the gym there is.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He really never seen anything like a lot of the
manly boys were unbelievably strong, but I think K pound
for pound one was the strongest across like from body
weight until how much waiting.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But yeah, he's made. He's a gifted athlete for sure.
But you know, when he does stuff, it's never like's
you never see him like he's always just doing it
with what he's trying. Yeah, when he's running, he's just
like is he like he's just gliding? And I think
he's lateral movements to mate where he gets that lateral
movement where you can sort of just get out of
a tackle where it's going sideways a little bit forty
(17:26):
five degree.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Angle skip when he gets on the outside of the
swoop shape. Anyway, boys, we found we've got it.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
So you're just are you just showing us a video
of that game.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm just I'm just showing just the conditions are playing in.
Wow and yet snow Snow game?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, okay, Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Interesting the Raiders win that one. We win this one.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You just I think you did. But the worst Tigers, I.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Think that looks tough.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
I think you forget that we're mainly an audio platform.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
But it's just reaction, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I'll try and chuck the footage of it on the
YouTube exactly. The game that you've played, your debut game?
Was that really cold that night? That I do remember that.
I remember it was like on your hands and stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Ye did you play against Shack They?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Was there any chat on?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think there was a little bit when he got
leveled by he didn't let him live.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Did you did we ever play against each other?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Were you playing in that game where when we come
down and played at g O O and Louis was.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
In the hearts as well?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I played in that one. That was that was a
bad day and made his history when you and Louis
carved up and yeah we did. We almost got all
the contract. Really was that a big spray because ahead, well, yeah,
I think we were. If you're coming down with Louis
and carving us up in the halves, it's a that was.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That was one of my better games.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Who was Louis Chris Lewis, That's right, That's that's why
Ricky can't stand you?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, who said you can't stand me. We were to
Sticky the.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Other day because we did our show after you win
the other night, and and he was talking about Big Papa,
and at the press conference, Ricky said, I rate Josh
in the top five raiders of all time. He said,
alongside the Glen Lazarus, the Malman Ingers, the Bradley Clyde,
so on and so forth. And I can't sit after it,
and I said, Ricky's too humble to say it, but
(19:16):
Ricky is, without doubt the best player I ever played against.
And I stand by that. He was amazing. Anyway, stick
rang me and I finished the comment and said, and mate,
you know, and I'll even say that even though he
pushed me. He pushed me, sa coop anyway, I have
a laugh. See he ran me as oh man, here
go mate. Kaylee just showed me, you know, recorded the
(19:37):
show and she showed me what you said. Mate, that's
really nice thing. So I said, we'll see. You only
said it because I believe it. Now mate, on your young.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Bloke now made. I laughed and said, Sticky, don't worry,
he said, I made.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I don't want to feel like I've done I did
the wrong thing. I said, Sticky, we love it, I said,
he does. He has got a tendency to get ahead
of himself.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Mate, Well it gave me it was I enjoyed it
because he gave me lots of jokes, like given us
a lot of jokes.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Love.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You feel free to bring me anytime.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
So charlote, who's the best side you played against this year?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Melbourne? That that was a tough game up there. I
know that the field probably wasn't didn't suit probably both teams.
It was a bit of a chopped up at the
end of Majorian But yeah, Melbourne they're tough, they're good outfit.
And then and then the Warriors going over there there's
some good sides, and then you've obviously got Bulldogs. I've
(20:36):
just named probably the top four. But yeah, yeah, the
Bulldogs make when they when they that that second half
momentum that was tough to stop. And you've got Stephen
crighton out there. He's tough to handle and stuff like that.
But yeah, look, obviously there's some there's some good teams
out there and.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's some bad ones to Starlo, So who would you
say is playing the work.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I haven't played all the teams and so I can't.
I can't comment on that just yet. At at the
end of the season, I'll come back one.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Every year we always talk about, you know, tight competition,
but in reality, I reckon in the last five six years,
there's probably been three teams to win the camp. This
year is totally different. This year man, you know, like
you blokes, but.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I forgot about the Canola were there too. They were
they were good, like well this glays from losing it.
We scored on the bell so you know when they
when they put it together, there they are dangerous sides.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
So it's yeah, you look at but yeah, you look
at sides like Cornella and we don't talk about a lot,
but they can be a dangerous so mainly have been
terribly inconsistent, but you get them on their day. This
is a season where a team like could literally come
from the clouds and just win it. It's that tight.
You've got all of a sudden Penras starting to emerge again. Mate,
You've got the Dolphins, who when you think about contendercy,
(21:47):
you don't even think about the Dolphins. They've won six
of their last night and mates, they've had some big scalps,
they've got some injuries, big wins, and they've got some
injuries too that they'll probably get some people coming back
back into the air.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, don't get started out. Have you been seeing have
you been?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I've said a bit, But like it's fair as he
was when I was playing. He plays so square on you.
And you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Know I catch Dad all the time in the bathroom
just watching his highlights with his shirt on with that American,
with that American Johnson and Johnson tweeting my nipple rings.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, Wayne got it because he was They Penrith had
he marked down. Penrith said, they marked him down from
a distance in their planning. They said, what's going to happen?
In a few years time, we're probably going to lose
Jerome Jerome Leway, you know, because we won't be able
to offer the money that we want to and all
the other guys who are getting better and better, and
they went, he's the bloke.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
He's going to blow the little little.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Partner Nathan and then Wayne heard about him and Peter
O'Sullivan and they just said. Wayne just said, mate, we'll
pay whatever, and just went in there and just blew
Penrith completely out of the ballpark. But it's just been
the right decision, Like that kid will retire. I'm confidence
that he'll retires one of the great half packs. Yeah,
he's that good a football.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, as I mentioned plays how square he plays and
stuff like that. The whole attack goes off the back
and the Marshall King. He's a few injuries this year,
but he when he's fitting helf, he's dangerous.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah, question Starlough. A lot of people get interested in
this sort of stuff. Have you ever had a surreal
moment playing against someone? And I'll use the example of
Semi Verrels. We spoke to Semi Verrels here and he
said his surreal moment was coming on his daut and
playing against Cameron Smith and camera Smith giving him like
a bunny chop and just going, holy fuck, I'm playing
(23:34):
I've just been cheap shot by Cameron Smith. Have you
had a moment where you go on the field and
just gone, I can't believe I'm playing against this blake.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Probably like a few times, I reckon, there's Cameron Smith.
We played him in a prelim final up there up
in Brisbane. In that COVID twenty twenty year played Cameron
Smith then and again I think I tried to give
him one and he didn't even like he just trying
to hit water. Yeah, I hit him and he just
like he came out and did like a like a
like a drop player from Dummy off. And I've hunted
from the inside and tried to give him, give him
(24:02):
money I give He didn't even flinch and kept going
on with his job. He's done that a few times.
But mate, I played in the game that Sonny Bill returned.
Oh yeah, down in camera that was that was pretty cool.
Like that had the full Sonny Bill camp set up
on him and stuff all that and and other good
sticky story goes. He goes, mate, when when Sonny Bill
(24:23):
comes on the field, I want everyone come from heaven
and Earth just to just fly out at him. And
I'm running back. But there was probably sixty minutes in
the game he had he played the last little bit,
and I'm running down there in the grind of probably
about the forty five tackles or whatever. And then I'll
see I'll turn me right, see Sonny Bill with a
card in his hand, and we've just kicked it down
and like, oh, he's coming here. And then they've they've
taken money in and then he's come on the field
(24:44):
and I'm sitting at a I'm like, oh, here he comes.
I've got to go. I've just got to go flying
out of the line. I flew out of the line,
mean me. Now, I've got the clip that it's pretty funny.
And so I've just thrown everything came down the bigets
an offline and off they go. But Luke, I think
it might have been Luke Carey drops it and I've
got up on the men get that out, so thinking
I've just made these forces ever, but he's just throwing
(25:05):
this bad offline. It was just lucky that I can't.
I think I'm ninety sure, it was just he's just
had a handling error, but yeah, insane. Yeah, so suddeny
Bill was pretty cool and my my dors is growing
up were against so we were Benji Marshall and Robbie
far So they were I've got to play against Benji.
I think it might even was that the Sea House
(25:26):
games were you there with Benji Jack. There was a
house game that I played Benji and I was like,
oh that that's that was like me box ticked that one. Anyway,
I've got to play Benji one year when he was
at the house, which was just like because the best fan,
So I was like that was like a box tick
for that one.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The best player you ever played against, You've gone off
the fill and going oh Jesus.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Jesus that stuff. The hardest person that I always just
used to hate tackling and was jared with your hard
graves because you just single out and just go straight
at you with your elbow and everything like that. But
he was always tough to play. But the best player
I'm trying to think of, I guess like you have
to say he was Kemp Smith because I played against him.
But yeah, yeah, you're furtheresting from that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, worst player you played against, so yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Guess you would have to say that. Yeah, it's hard
to sort of think that you come up against like
to the s he's always a tough competitor, Cleary Clear. Yeah, again,
you've got Cleary, you got there's so many good players. Yeah,
there's hard to sort of single one out. But there's
a lot of the moment, Yeah, a lot of I
want to.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I want to and I'm not going to go too
far into this, into the incident because you've talked about
a lot of times before, you've been dealing with it
for the last three or four years. You know, if
people don't know there was the fight up in the
Central Coast which you were dealing with in court and whatnot.
I wanted to ask you though, because you see a
lot of incidents and off field scandals so to speak.
(26:54):
Not that that was a scandal, but you see clubs
kind of turn on their players or look look at
it as an opportunity to probably get rid of players.
But you and Canberra and particularly Sticky, it looks like
he's really had your back through the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah. Yeah, mate, I was very fortunate that I had
had stick in the club I was at. I was
at that club in that position. Another club might have
I only played probably paid maybe ten to fifteen earl. Yeah,
probably only ten to fifteen animal games I've played and
fairly new on the scene. And then you know, for
this to happen, it was quite a big thing, like
(27:28):
for when it had happened. So they probably could have,
like I think it was coming off contract that year,
and they could have easily just gone like, we'll just
you know, put him to the side, put him on, Yeah,
we'll let him let it like, you know, not not
engage as much as can. But I think it just
comes back to you Stick as a human being and
what the club's about. They're looking after their own stuff
like that, and Stick, you know, Stick raying you right
(27:49):
away and said, mate, he's sort of like I couldn't
explain to everything what happened, but he just sort of said, mate,
did you are you in the wrong? I said, no,
there's no I didn't do anything, and he goes, I've
got you got straight on the front foot and started
saying that like this is not true and he and
he backed me up and yeah, as you saw, I said,
teams can just probably put your eyes, yeah side, But
like they put faith in me and let me go
(28:11):
out and play footy, and if I didn't, wasn't to
have to play foot in that time. I honestly don't
know what I'd be able to do, but you know,
I made it a real goal of mine to give
back to the club and try and prove them right
for sticking by me. That was it tough?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But sorry, was it tough trying to play footy and
deal with all that ship as well, like the cord
staff lawyers and all that ship.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, well mate, it was like played the first as
I mentioned before, probably ten fifteen games in you're starting
to play your own real career and you're trying to
deal with becoming an inneral player, how that how that
works and you know what works, what doesn't work, and
how do you prepare for a game and all this
sort of stuff and that then that's that's a full
time job in itself. And then away from footy, I've
(28:52):
got this, got this thing. I'm trying to navigate me,
navigate me. Like my family has never been involved in
anything like this before. So, as I mention before, I'd
lucky enough to have a lot of people around me
that would help me through mum and dad and extended
family and stuff like that. But yeah, that was tough,
Like you just always had that on the back of
your mind. You'd get to the footage training and you
do your bit, and then like every sort of moment
(29:13):
away from that, you're just thinking about like the sort
of funny story not funny stoo. But when it first happened,
I went and met the lawyer, met me lawyer, and
you run through me charge sheet. I'm just there thinking,
like I was just worried about footy, like oh I
don't get sacked, or like what's going to happen all
this sort of stuff like that was only twenty one
at the time. And then yeah, he's read out like
(29:34):
so you're facing X amount of years in prison. I'm
just got sorry what, Like that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So that was an option like or not case.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
He just tells you what, like you've got this charge, discharge,
this charge, this is what, this is what you're doing.
And it was like like fifteen ye I was like
sorry what and then like they're like oh shit, this
is like rich is real. Like so that was like
only a couple of days after the actual event. So yeah,
having to navigate that and then also having to navigate
your anil career, this thing that you've been working up
to your whole life to try and get to and
you finally got there, and then then I've got this darkly,
(30:05):
I just followed me around for four years, five years,
and it's still ongoing.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Is it still going on now?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, So I've been cleared of everything. I'm more in
the clear. And there's two police officers in court at
the minute that have been charged, so they're still going.
So I still still not like I like to go
back to court at the start of the year to
testify whatever whatever the right word is for it, to
have to relive it again go through it. I had
to take three days off training, so it's still dragging on,
(30:32):
but through the hardest that trouble.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Thing when they give you the worst case scenario, I was,
this is a whole different nowhere near that. But I
got caught when I was having a squirt down Nelly
way about one am in the morning. Anyway, that copper's
got me, went to my fingerprinted me charged with offensive
behavior and I remember sitting with a solicitor gun yep,
and he goes, well, let's just have a look. Okay,
(30:58):
now this is a maximum six months in jail. I'm like,
fucking oh no, just imagine you're going to go to jail.
I'm going to be having sex in the shower.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, school.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Making twelve months.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I played guilty there uge.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, that was Yeah, that was a tough that was
I was just for my heart sacked everything. I can't
imagine the head and it was all battered up. We've
just been Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So it was just a lot about Ricky, but it
also says a lot about you, the fact that Ricky
just asked you the question and then you said, no,
I've done nothing wrong with him, just to believe that
straight away.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, well I think that's that's been one of the
sticks things is you know, you do right by him,
will do right but you and Stick's obviously really good
at reading people, and he knows if you're a good bloke,
and like he doesn't recruit if you're not a good bloke,
you're not coming to you're not coming to canber or
if you're not a good bloke and you're not playing
for Stick. If you're not a good bloke, and you know,
obviously means stick have a really good relationship. And as
(32:00):
he said, like he said, and one of his big
things is don't lie to me, even if you're in
the wrong. Don't lie to me, and like we'll work
for it. If you're in the wrong, will work for it.
But you know, I just don't lie to me. And
like I obviously had nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And recruiting good blokes, then why is it that Matt
Tomco got signed.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
We didn't have a choice to him. It just every
team needs a grub.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Talk about one of the great characters in a sight,
Matt too is one of the best.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The boys told me that because he because when I
look at him on the field sort of the way
he plays in that to me, he looks like a
pretty sort of straight laced conservative bloke.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He's yeah, he's an interesting character. Matt Tomokay, he's quirky.
He's very quirky. He's all time man's that's the footy dynamics,
isn't it. The people that you come across in the
rugby league change room. Like it's like right now, even
like we just just rattle off our whole team and
just go like what a weirdo. But like it's it's
like a good old if you're not a weirdo, you're
a bit of a weirda.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It is funny that rugby league, right, Like it's like
opposite to the school yard where there's so many different personalities.
You can pick your group, you can pick who you know,
your sort of gang is. When you're in a raby
league team, anybody who comes in. If you want to
be a successful culture, you just you just embrace everyone.
You're just buying to everyone's weirdness. You have to otherwise,
like you just don't yell as a team.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Camaraderie spirits as important as you know, your hands on
your feet.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, it's just it's just so vital. Yeah, we often
joke about like if someone just walked through our training
right now and you just observe this, they'll be going
they need to be locked up in a learning bit. Yeah,
just like it's just like, yeah, it's just it's it's
fun like you just like you go on to training
with your mates and you're having a laugh and you've
got these odd characters are doing random stuff. So yeah,
(33:41):
Matt Tomko is up there with one of the one
of the top whereidos but Yeah, we love him down there.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
He's got some great teeth, great venue, he's got some vine.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Careful with the veneers be there's a thing there found
with in Premier League a lot of players in certain
clubs getting ham strings and soft tissue injuries, particularly ham strings,
and they were having the players were getting the then
is is and what it does changes your bite And
it's proven with your bite, like if you're you've got
(34:13):
a problem with your bite, it'll actually go down India
neck and go and infect your hamstring.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah, because there was a big thing in this primary
when I was over there, I have a lot of
trouble with hamstrings. And our doctors said to me, I'm
going to have a look at They had to look
at my jaw line. They said, now it's okay because
at the time they were fitting people with like a
device to slip with to try to straighten out their
bite for people with hands.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Sorry, sorry starts with some of these some of these
story he tells these days because he's been getting caught
out a lot lately for some of his yards. We
have to have a bullshit label across a certain certain
fact check, just a warning, well.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Somebody is wrong. Maybe it's not me, Maybe it's the
people on the message. I'm just I'm just delivering that.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a call dad like to say that just hang it,
let me just s eat it back to you to
say that getting veneers affects your hamstrings, which are completely
two different areas of the body.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
It's the bite, mate, There's.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
No need to get googl out cobber.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Let's just I will say.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
One of the boys at Melbourn. I don't want to
disclose who it was, because he wanted to get a
better jaw line. So we bought this device which he
would chew on in order to try to get the
muscles in his jaw better, like a.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Little rubber thing.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah yeah, have you seen that thing?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
The boys bite and bite on it relentlessly. It's like
chewing gum basically, but it just doesn't taste good. And
he ended up doing a hammy like But it was
like three or four weeks later as his jaw was
talking about. I don't know if it affected his bite,
but I will say there is a slight trend link.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Okay here it is now It says some research suggests
a connection between jaw position and athletic performance, including hamstring flexibility.
No official studies has been into veneers causing this, but
if veneers do affect a bite, it will affect hamstrings.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well there, we should do a study.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, how many of the boys got veneers? Just to
mocoas got normal?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He said beautiful until Ricky.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
To just get Ricky segment to let him go, Josh
future hamstring soft shoe injuries the.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Fox Josh Josh, Yeah, and he had a couple, had
a couple of hammymle got veneers.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He's got hamstring cheap cheese and his che said hamstrings.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He did his knee.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
He went close enough, it's part of the leg.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, that seems like a massive stretch. I don't not
not Campbell Graham, I would say, you're right, No, I'm
pretty good there there.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, show me yours?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You got fake teeth though?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
One of them?
Speaker 9 (36:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Just one?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Because I had one half a tooth knocked out? How's
that playing football? Because I never were a mouth guard.
You go a talk on the Phils playmaker.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's probably a dangerous for messages.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
It's not so much the hit a tea where where
I found out I was playing a game passed it
and someone had inside pressure and hit me right in
the back. You know, you get hit in the back
and your bite down, bit half my tongue off.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It was hanging by thread.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But we're having a big night out that night, so
I still went out. People were like, you were in nightclub,
just go you got to go to the hospital and nah,
and blood was just going and people were screaming, what
asked about? That's yeah, we got there once star abe man.
We had a real back in the day at the
nights Man, we had a real discipline as far as
going out and drinking. You know, come a hell of
(37:34):
high water. And once I got there and cut my
knee wrestling someone at a pub, like needed fourteen stitch
it upside of the knee. But all the boys are
going to Fanny's nightclubs. I can't miss it on that.
So I ran the doctor and see Fanny's nightclubs, can
just stitch me up there?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So he said yeah, So he come to the.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Nightclub, stitch me up, and just on we go. We
march a dawn did the docks day. Maybe he was
a man of the cloth of faith.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Did you what's your before we let you go? Well,
have you ever had a bad injury?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No, I've bote me jaw, that was about it. Oh really,
cheese actually did it to me playing for Melbourne up
in the COVID bubble. Yeah, is that. I don't know
why I went low on him. That's dumb decision for
me to go low on the cheese. And yeah, not
a place to go.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Triangle.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So that's probably That's not really the only really injury
I've had in first grade. I've probably only missed two
or three. I missed three games for that.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, because I remember you got knocked out pretty badly
as well, and so you knock out, do you remember? Okay,
this is this is a trend that and none of
us got involved in it because we wouldn't do this
sort of thing, and it was a very silly trend
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
We would not disclose kids to do it. But there
was a thing called danger can do you guys.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Remember that trend, So you would what you would do
is you would a danger can chant would start and
one of the boys would smash like a can over
their head head and then when it was like exploding
like a beer can, you'd scull it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But I don't know if you guys, you.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Definitely would remember when I say this, there was a
certain player who thought one time it would be a
smart idea to do that game but with a glass
bottle and glassed himself and it just went all over
him and he split his head.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And it was in a venue.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah it was that was.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
What club we're talking?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, they just said Burwood, So now they've they've narrowed
it down to newcomer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I was trying to keep it as broad as you
give me a OA, what positions you play?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
No, you wouldn't know him.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I don't see he doesn't play anymore, don't no, no,
but he Jack brought in the danger can? What about that?
We're just having a drink at the church. This was
at the church house out in the back of the garage.
And then Jack just out of nowhere starts doing the
danger can thing like the danger can? What is this
(39:59):
this bloke doing it? And he starts whacking himself over
the head of the can and then passes on the
next plable, Jack, what are you doing? And he's like that,
it's a game, let's all play it. So anyway ended
up being a good game to play. Yeah, I know
it was, but there is the glass. The glass.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
He ended up getting kicked out of the pub too.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, you can't glass people, even if it is yourself.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Even if it is you get me charged a piece
out to It was a bad cart oh yeah, but
it wasn't like a beat. It was like one of
them like small, like longer glasses that you get like
maybe a cocktail in and he's just got him on
the edge of that.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Just bang, fucking hell the i Q test.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
Yeah, Jack, I'll give him credit to because I remember
it was on a Saturday night and he rocked up
to twenties training. He rocked up the twenties training on
the Monday, and you know what, he hit it so well.
No one asked me.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I believe he went out that night. I think he
just wrapped his head up and put it.
Speaker 9 (40:51):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah great, what an excellent blake.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
We won't we won't name him, but he knows exactly
who is.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah. But the small group of people that there your number, Darky.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Year, all you guys at Lace United enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Right, I thank Starl.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Congratulations. You haven't a fantastic year, mate, both yourself personally
but the team is a collective and maybe be mat
It's great to see the emergence of the green machine.
Brother good Good on your great boys problem
We were known to.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We were reminiscing on some pranks upstairs before a couple
that I wanted to bring up Brody Jones. Shout out
to Brody who plays up the Newcastle Knights. Obviously we
used to do a prank quite regularly where we would
ring up as his dad and we would yeah, we
would he's dad, Glenn Jones, and we would ring different
teammates at the Knights of him and say, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Mate, it's Glenn Jones.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We just wanted to wish you a happy birthday on
random days when it wasn't their birthday, and then start
singing happy birthday to him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And I can't remember we used to get but they'd
be like, oh mate, birthday. They go, thanks, thanks Glenn,
but it's actually not my birthday.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Make sure we finished the whole song. That'd be trying
to bart in, but make sure we just keep singing
the song.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And if Starlo was on the phone being Glenn, I
was off phone being.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Brody and he goes, oh, sorry, Brody.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Told me he was your birthday, and he was going, Brody, Brody,
it's not his birthday and I go, oh sorry, dad, sorry,
goes Bloody Brodie Brody.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Like coin of make your request, we cansert it into
the podcast. Can we give that a go straight after
this interview?
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah if it works, If not, cut it, yeah,
snippet to me forget Elliot Elliott.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, actually doesn't have my numb but they be trained.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
He's injured. He's injured. We'll try it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Receive you can get Adam Elliot clet Jones.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You've seen the whole birthday?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Hello Adam, there you go, mate? Is Glenn Jones, Brodie's dad?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hey mate, there you're going good.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Brother.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Brady was just telling me it's your birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, no, my birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
He was just saying, it's your birthday. We're going to
sing happy birthday for you.
Speaker 8 (01:56):
Happy birthday too, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear right,
Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Brady was saying, it's your birthday, his birthday. Who's you saying?
Speaker 9 (02:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Not this another?
Speaker 8 (02:25):
Oh sorry, that's all right?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
Oh my, sorry about that, mate. Here's how's your here's
your partner gone?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah she's good, mate, she's gone great.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah, make good us as here's your bicet Yeah yeah
I thought so. Yeah yeah yeah mate, just keep doing
your rehab and looks like you'll be you'll be back
sooner rather than later. Mate, it's good to good to
see you when you're back out on the field.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
I miss you.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
Er brother, right, happy birthday?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Don't get on your brother, my gotcha. I didn't even
tell him leave this only so stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's Cooper John were he would he with Dad and
Starlow and everyone.
Speaker 9 (03:43):
I'll do.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
And then I'm going this is up again.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh my sorry I was. You were so nice about it.
You're just gonna let you go.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh you're actually were Actually we're.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just Brody goes on the day before.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh that's so good. Anyway, we'll let you go.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Happy birthday, mate, Happy birthdays. Appreciate appreciate the school one too.
I'll drink that worked out. Well, there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now we'll go back to the interview. We also used
to get one of Jack's mates, Jayden Marfu. Now, hangover
pranks are probably the best kind of phone call prank
because you alway feel a bit silly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Little bit alcohol lovely. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
One of Jack's mates, Marfu, got quite intoxicated and was
carrying on a little bit around about the northern Beaches
in the off season, Starlow was down and Star He goes, oh,
we should get him, we should get him, and you
come up with this character.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, we just made I've made up. We've got some
footage of you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You wrote it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Still, Yeah, we had it. We had it this way,
We'll go this way. We really had him on, had
him on toast and he was hung the phone up
and we all started pissing ourselves laughing while you could
hear the fear and his voice, the poor fellow.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We rang him.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Ten minutes later he was in the car on the
way to dy police station, ready to turn himself in
because we said that we had him on CCTV footage running.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
A cab mate.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Another prank call.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Now, are you allowed to You told us an excellent
prank just before on one of your Raiders teammates, because
you are a prank star.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Can we disclose that one?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, we can disclose that one. He's don't hate me
for it, but I just do it. So Matthew Nicholson,
a new English import, young fellow. He's only twenty one,
sol of the earth he is. He's a great But
we've got to let him know that he's swimming with
the shafts now and he's a bit he's bit nove
to what's happening anyway, you know the Swish, the Swish
(06:03):
account things, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So you send a video, someone pays you and you
send a video to.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
The factor on half a million dollars in fact, you
wanted to take fifty bucks of horns.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, a bit of a small percentage going to yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I think it's about fifty percent actually, because Joey does it,
your brother does it, and he charges an armament. Yeah. God. Anyway,
So Maddie, Maddie's you know, he's played a couple of
really good games the first grade and he's bounced around,
chest out anyway. So he's coming one day and we're
(06:33):
sitting in the sauna and he's gone off, just start
up my Swish account. How good is that? Mate, that's awesome?
He goes, yeah, charging George one hundred books and I'm like,
one hundred quid, mate, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Pupa down a bit anyway, So he brings it down
and a couple of days go by and mate, have
you got any any swishes? No? Swishes that met anyway.
So this was Captains one before Magic Ground. So I've
(06:54):
come in and I've it's like bold man, I've went
on order order a swish under an alias. So I've
gone so you're right it up and you can see
where it comes from, Like what what the request is? Anyway?
So I've gone to Hi, Maddie. My wife's a massive
fan of yours. Ever since your debuted, she's been obsessed
with us. She refers to you as Maddie Muffins and
(07:16):
it's her birthday. Can you please sing a happy birthday
and refer to yourself as Maddie Muffins. And so I've
put this in off. It's charged me sixty bucks or
whatever it was that that I was sitting there. It
was before training, and I've told a few of the
boys and we're all like laughing, like there's no way
he forced for this, like Maddie Muffins, Like there's no
way anyway. So he's so we we've finished training and
(07:36):
he's coming and we're all sitting around in the changing
room and he's looking at his phone. We're like, well,
looking over it and going has he seen it? Has
he seen it? Anyway? So he walks out the front
and then Morgan, his housemate and fellow englishman's come back
from the car car park and Maddie's walking out, and
Maddie walked past and goes, I've just got my first
Swiss on fucking bosn' stop talking about it anyway. So
(07:56):
he's walked out there straightaway. Morgans comes running in and
he's he's doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So he's we're.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Sitting there, we're all more fine, and it pops up.
Your swishes come through, mate, and it was and he's
referred to himself as hey, it's hate too. So this
this made up girl I made was Kathy. Hey Kathy,
it's Maddie Muffins here. I just want to wish you
a massive happy birthday and then sings the whole happy
Birthday song to him, stitches and then as and then
he's hopping the cars. We'll go on to the airport for
(08:24):
Magic Ground and then I'll just put it straight in
their group chat group WhatsApp group chat and said thanks
for them, thanks for the message, muffin or something like that.
He just went pale wide apparently he just had nothing
to come back to, but all weight it was all
Muffins and then we went against Melbourne up there at
Magic Ground. The last clip that Stick showed was the
Maddie Muffins video. I sent it to him. So I've
got one request this week, Stick, I want this played
(08:46):
and the teammate and it was all time. So that's
that's his new nickname.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
May He's good.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, he's a good player. Man won to.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You can get some good English back rolls at the Raiders,
you were saying before, Elliot Whitehead, Johnny Bateman, Madi Nichols.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well that started that they have. The Raiders have been
the best club at adapting for recruitment. They used to
get all their players or most of them out of
Brisbane as of South's Brisbane, so Melmourninger, Gary Coyn, Belcher,
Peter Jackson. So it just goes on and on. When
the Broncos come in, that dried up. So Tim Sheen's
for the Raiders went to New Zealand signed Reuben Wiki,
(09:27):
Quentin Ponga, Johnny Lomax. Then all of a sudden the
Warriors coming to the competition and scouted around for but
now have found those English players, batch of English players, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Similar conditions that from makes them. Yeah, morning one minus two, so.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I have an advantage for you. Made it was it
was going down there playing those great Raiders sides in
the middle of the nineties and playing on Friday night
a football We played a minus six one night. Oh fuck, and.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The locker rooms are cold.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They're still like they're all like brick and like you're
in they're just feeling so uncomfortable down there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's that's well. We can use the word advantage just
if we're playing good football, like making it real tough.
But if we're not playing good yeah, it's not going
to be much of advantage. Teams will just come down
and roll. But we've we've made it a real real
focus for this year. We've been we've been poured home
the last few years. So we've made it a real
focus to try and make make that that that a
tough road trip again.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Your training, your track suits and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He lets us train throughout the week, but captains run,
it's you're run out there and whatever you're wearing in
that game. He made a real real focus of it
on this on the past week the weekend because it
was freezing cold, and he said no, no, no skins tops.
You get out there and you're you get ready to go.
So but he's he's getting a bit old too, so
he likes the rugg himself up. I do remember one
(10:44):
session down there, This is a few years ago. It
was a Captains run and it was like it was
the worst I've seen Camber. It was like raining, windy raining.
It was like almost sleep in the air. It was
like minus two or something like that. It was horrible.
It was raining. We ran out there for Captains run
and it was like shivering cold, like everyone was rugged.
Doune walks out there and we did. We started warming
up and Sticks you could see Stick was hating and
(11:04):
you know what you're fucking doing. Yeah, it's going side.
It went up into the game, so that yeah, it's
he's he's You.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Get snow there, like does it snow in camera?
Speaker 9 (11:14):
Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah? I mean you get like a like a small
layer at certain parts of the year, but it's not
like in the morning like you do you got that
that ice frost.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You've you've seen the game in ninety ninety nine, haven't you?
Two thousand?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it was, yeah, yeah, the White Jerseys.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, there was a mirror of snot Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What what was the difference then? As to why then.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Just particularly particularly cold day and they had obviously up
in the snowy mountains had a downpour and the snow
and it just triggled into camera. So yeah, it was
a mirror of snow.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Wow, Tim Bailey, thanks for that.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The weather different, If that's what the difference cold, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I didn't know, like if there was a certain thing
that starts snow and like why ninety two thousand? Yeah,
well I thought somebody would Continu're going to dig it
up for you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Can I ask you?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Starlow?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You are a very tight knit group.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Canberra is a place because everyone always talks about Melbourne
when everyone goes to Melbourne. The culture and everyone's so
tight because no one's from there. Everyone moves there, hang out,
get coffees.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Is a very similar in camera, yeah, obviously. Yeah, it's
a lot more than Melbourne too. Like you if you
have drive, if you've driven more than twenty minutes, you're
like you're on the other side of Canberra. So all
the boys live pretty close together and everyone pretty much
has moved away from their their family and stuff all
that and creating their families down there, So it's a
really tight knit group. And it also helps that we're
(12:37):
we're all around the same age. You've got a couple
of the younger fellas, but there's also a pretty tight
knit group of us. They're around the same age, and
that's similar stages in our career and our lives. So mate,
it's it's a really good, really good environment down there.
It's a great place to live. I know people probably
don't look at it like that, but you know, once
you once you live down there, it's very nice place
to live. It's it's always clean, it's always it's always
(12:59):
easy to get around. It's really nice restaurants and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And Parliament House.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, you get a question cons down That was.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My next question. How many times have you been to Questacon?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Actually just the once when I went down there for
year six camp there. We drove actually I did, mean,
Hunter drove past it once to go in there, and
they were charging like twenty five bucks or something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm not going to are you serious?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Started a swish accout, Yeah, start a swish account, muff,
Yeah serious, twenty five bucks?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? Yeah, honestly, you should cut in half on a
school night, but I'll drink that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Seriously, I can't believe it. Did you find anything?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm waiting for YouTube to kick in. Typically at the
moment with your.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Wife, you get the Wi Fi passed.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't know what here.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
We gets working slowly.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You can you're gonna goog on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, probably just the game? Oh right, the white snows.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I thought he was googling as to why like it's snowed.
Then No, I thought that was that's a bit technical.
I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hey, what about do you have a roomy when you
go away?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, Hudson?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Is it always Hudson always? You guys room together for
a while.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah. Since coming, Yeah, I've only had probably a handful
of different roomors. There was one week that Huddah was
in I had and Huddles in Origin camp. I had
Hosco the other week, which is which is good. We're
obviously familiar with each other. But he's a bad Sleephosco Zachskin.
I try to be real quiet around him.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I don't know, he's nose mate stuck in the curtains.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, he's doing something, but so I tried to keep
it quietly. But yeah, I've had when Haddo was in
Origin camp a few years ago and Elliott Whitehead was
injured Jordan Rapana and so I've gone from having Hudson Young,
who professionally wakes up at all hours a night to
stretch and be a professional, to Jordan Rapana. And the
people that know Jordan Rapana were talking about because he's
(14:46):
come back from the shops online in bed just chilling out.
He's come back from seven eleven or something in the city,
and he's come back with a bag full of lollies
and treats and stuff like that. He goes my brother,
he wants some. So I was like, you know what,
when in right? So we're sitting there to see how
strapping but he's got the bag full while he's like
he loves it. Anyway, I was sitting there watching the Gulf.
I've drift off to sleep, and I'll wake up in
(15:06):
the middle of the night to turn the golf off
to the TV still still running, and I go up
to toilet, come back down and then I sort of
lay down for a little bit in here, a little
crunkling in the in the night, and I was like,
da I see him eating something? Is he still eating anyway,
I wake up. I just drift off to sleep. Wake
up in the morning, said did you wake up in
the middle of the night, started eating some food. He goes, yeah,
(15:28):
color melala, my bro, I got hungry.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He's a character, mate, wraps. I remember, funny you say
that because Kyle Weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I remember with Kay at Manly a few times when
we played a mudgy against the Knights against Jack and
I go. I was pretty tired, went to bed quite early,
and next door it was all the Kiwi boys and
Kay goes, I'm going to leave you here, Bro, I'm
just going to go next door and I was like, yes, sweet.
They were in there playing Call of Duty. I reckon
until about three am and scream. They were that loud
(16:01):
and chair hill and they were laughing. I was like,
I could not sleep all night, can come back in.
And then he was on FaceTime to his misses until
like four am.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I was like, okay, bro, we got to play.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I said, we're.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Playing at like two pm to morow.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Jesus gone good.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Oh yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
The last month unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah yeah, he's like obviously
he's speed, but he's awareness for the game. He's getting
better week in week out, and obviously we've seen him
a little bit last year and seeing his blistering pace.
But I think he's positional as I don't think you've
really ever played fullback. I don't played more six, so
(16:38):
fullback's fairly new to him in recent times. So yeah,
he's just he's growing and his defensive stuff is in
behind the ball, has been really good on our goal line.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So a lot of people wouldn't know either, but he is.
And you'd be able to attest to this start pound
for pound one of the strongest.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
In the gym there is.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He really never seen anything like a lot of the
manly boys were unbelievably strong, but I think K pound
for pound one was the strongest across like from body
weight until how much waiting.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But yeah, he's made. He's a gifted athlete for sure.
But you know, when he does stuff, it's never like's
you never see him like he's always just doing it
with what he's trying. Yeah, when he's running, he's just
like is he like he's just gliding? And I think
he's lateral movements to mate where he gets that lateral
movement where you can sort of just get out of
a tackle where it's going sideways a little bit forty
(17:26):
five degree.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Angle skip when he gets on the outside of the
swoop shape. Anyway, boys, we found we've got it.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
So you're just are you just showing us a video
of that game.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm just I'm just showing just the conditions are playing in.
Wow and yet snow Snow game?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, okay, Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Interesting the Raiders win that one. We win this one.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You just I think you did. But the worst Tigers, I.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Think that looks tough.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
I think you forget that we're mainly an audio platform.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
But it's just reaction, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I'll try and chuck the footage of it on the
YouTube exactly. The game that you've played, your debut game?
Was that really cold that night? That I do remember that.
I remember it was like on your hands and stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Ye did you play against Shack They?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Was there any chat on?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think there was a little bit when he got
leveled by he didn't let him live.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Did you did we ever play against each other?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Were you playing in that game where when we come
down and played at g O O and Louis was.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
In the hearts as well?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I played in that one. That was that was a
bad day and made his history when you and Louis
carved up and yeah we did. We almost got all
the contract. Really was that a big spray because ahead, well, yeah,
I think we were. If you're coming down with Louis
and carving us up in the halves, it's a that was.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That was one of my better games.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Who was Louis Chris Lewis, That's right, That's that's why
Ricky can't stand you?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, who said you can't stand me. We were to
Sticky the.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Other day because we did our show after you win
the other night, and and he was talking about Big Papa,
and at the press conference, Ricky said, I rate Josh
in the top five raiders of all time. He said,
alongside the Glen Lazarus, the Malman Ingers, the Bradley Clyde,
so on and so forth. And I can't sit after it,
and I said, Ricky's too humble to say it, but
(19:16):
Ricky is, without doubt the best player I ever played against.
And I stand by that. He was amazing. Anyway, stick
rang me and I finished the comment and said, and mate,
you know, and I'll even say that even though he
pushed me. He pushed me, sa coop anyway, I have
a laugh. See he ran me as oh man, here
go mate. Kaylee just showed me, you know, recorded the
(19:37):
show and she showed me what you said. Mate, that's
really nice thing. So I said, we'll see. You only
said it because I believe it. Now mate, on your young.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Bloke now made. I laughed and said, Sticky, don't worry,
he said, I made.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I don't want to feel like I've done I did
the wrong thing. I said, Sticky, we love it, I said,
he does. He has got a tendency to get ahead
of himself.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Mate, Well it gave me it was I enjoyed it
because he gave me lots of jokes, like given us
a lot of jokes.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Love.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You feel free to bring me anytime.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
So charlote, who's the best side you played against this year?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Melbourne? That that was a tough game up there. I
know that the field probably wasn't didn't suit probably both teams.
It was a bit of a chopped up at the
end of Majorian But yeah, Melbourne they're tough, they're good outfit.
And then and then the Warriors going over there there's
some good sides, and then you've obviously got Bulldogs. I've
(20:36):
just named probably the top four. But yeah, yeah, the
Bulldogs make when they when they that that second half
momentum that was tough to stop. And you've got Stephen
crighton out there. He's tough to handle and stuff like that.
But yeah, look, obviously there's some there's some good teams
out there and.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's some bad ones to Starlo, So who would you
say is playing the work.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I haven't played all the teams and so I can't.
I can't comment on that just yet. At at the
end of the season, I'll come back one.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Every year we always talk about, you know, tight competition,
but in reality, I reckon in the last five six years,
there's probably been three teams to win the camp. This
year is totally different. This year man, you know, like
you blokes, but.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I forgot about the Canola were there too. They were
they were good, like well this glays from losing it.
We scored on the bell so you know when they
when they put it together, there they are dangerous sides.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
So it's yeah, you look at but yeah, you look
at sides like Cornella and we don't talk about a lot,
but they can be a dangerous so mainly have been
terribly inconsistent, but you get them on their day. This
is a season where a team like could literally come
from the clouds and just win it. It's that tight.
You've got all of a sudden Penras starting to emerge again. Mate,
You've got the Dolphins, who when you think about contendercy,
(21:47):
you don't even think about the Dolphins. They've won six
of their last night and mates, they've had some big scalps,
they've got some injuries, big wins, and they've got some
injuries too that they'll probably get some people coming back
back into the air.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, don't get started out. Have you been seeing have
you been?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I've said a bit, But like it's fair as he
was when I was playing. He plays so square on you.
And you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Know I catch Dad all the time in the bathroom
just watching his highlights with his shirt on with that American,
with that American Johnson and Johnson tweeting my nipple rings.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, Wayne got it because he was They Penrith had
he marked down. Penrith said, they marked him down from
a distance in their planning. They said, what's going to happen?
In a few years time, we're probably going to lose
Jerome Jerome Leway, you know, because we won't be able
to offer the money that we want to and all
the other guys who are getting better and better, and
they went, he's the bloke.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
He's going to blow the little little.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Partner Nathan and then Wayne heard about him and Peter
O'Sullivan and they just said. Wayne just said, mate, we'll
pay whatever, and just went in there and just blew
Penrith completely out of the ballpark. But it's just been
the right decision, Like that kid will retire. I'm confidence
that he'll retires one of the great half packs. Yeah,
he's that good a football.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, as I mentioned plays how square he plays and
stuff like that. The whole attack goes off the back
and the Marshall King. He's a few injuries this year,
but he when he's fitting helf, he's dangerous.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah, question Starlough. A lot of people get interested in
this sort of stuff. Have you ever had a surreal
moment playing against someone? And I'll use the example of
Semi Verrels. We spoke to Semi Verrels here and he
said his surreal moment was coming on his daut and
playing against Cameron Smith and camera Smith giving him like
a bunny chop and just going, holy fuck, I'm playing
(23:34):
I've just been cheap shot by Cameron Smith. Have you
had a moment where you go on the field and
just gone, I can't believe I'm playing against this blake.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Probably like a few times, I reckon, there's Cameron Smith.
We played him in a prelim final up there up
in Brisbane. In that COVID twenty twenty year played Cameron
Smith then and again I think I tried to give
him one and he didn't even like he just trying
to hit water. Yeah, I hit him and he just
like he came out and did like a like a
like a drop player from Dummy off. And I've hunted
from the inside and tried to give him, give him
(24:02):
money I give He didn't even flinch and kept going
on with his job. He's done that a few times.
But mate, I played in the game that Sonny Bill returned.
Oh yeah, down in camera that was that was pretty cool.
Like that had the full Sonny Bill camp set up
on him and stuff all that and and other good
sticky story goes. He goes, mate, when when Sonny Bill
(24:23):
comes on the field, I want everyone come from heaven
and Earth just to just fly out at him. And
I'm running back. But there was probably sixty minutes in
the game he had he played the last little bit,
and I'm running down there in the grind of probably
about the forty five tackles or whatever. And then I'll
see I'll turn me right, see Sonny Bill with a
card in his hand, and we've just kicked it down
and like, oh, he's coming here. And then they've they've
taken money in and then he's come on the field
(24:44):
and I'm sitting at a I'm like, oh, here he comes.
I've got to go. I've just got to go flying
out of the line. I flew out of the line,
mean me. Now, I've got the clip that it's pretty funny.
And so I've just thrown everything came down the bigets
an offline and off they go. But Luke, I think
it might have been Luke Carey drops it and I've
got up on the men get that out, so thinking
I've just made these forces ever, but he's just throwing
(25:05):
this bad offline. It was just lucky that I can't.
I think I'm ninety sure, it was just he's just
had a handling error, but yeah, insane. Yeah, so suddeny
Bill was pretty cool and my my dors is growing
up were against so we were Benji Marshall and Robbie
far So they were I've got to play against Benji.
I think it might even was that the Sea House
(25:26):
games were you there with Benji Jack. There was a
house game that I played Benji and I was like,
oh that that's that was like me box ticked that one. Anyway,
I've got to play Benji one year when he was
at the house, which was just like because the best fan,
So I was like that was like a box tick
for that one.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The best player you ever played against, You've gone off
the fill and going oh Jesus.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Jesus that stuff. The hardest person that I always just
used to hate tackling and was jared with your hard
graves because you just single out and just go straight
at you with your elbow and everything like that. But
he was always tough to play. But the best player
I'm trying to think of, I guess like you have
to say he was Kemp Smith because I played against him.
But yeah, yeah, you're furtheresting from that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, worst player you played against, so yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Guess you would have to say that. Yeah, it's hard
to sort of think that you come up against like
to the s he's always a tough competitor, Cleary Clear. Yeah, again,
you've got Cleary, you got there's so many good players. Yeah,
there's hard to sort of single one out. But there's
a lot of the moment, Yeah, a lot of I
want to.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I want to and I'm not going to go too
far into this, into the incident because you've talked about
a lot of times before, you've been dealing with it
for the last three or four years. You know, if
people don't know there was the fight up in the
Central Coast which you were dealing with in court and whatnot.
I wanted to ask you though, because you see a
lot of incidents and off field scandals so to speak.
(26:54):
Not that that was a scandal, but you see clubs
kind of turn on their players or look look at
it as an opportunity to probably get rid of players.
But you and Canberra and particularly Sticky, it looks like
he's really had your back through the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah. Yeah, mate, I was very fortunate that I had
had stick in the club I was at. I was
at that club in that position. Another club might have
I only played probably paid maybe ten to fifteen earl. Yeah,
probably only ten to fifteen animal games I've played and
fairly new on the scene. And then you know, for
this to happen, it was quite a big thing, like
(27:28):
for when it had happened. So they probably could have,
like I think it was coming off contract that year,
and they could have easily just gone like, we'll just
you know, put him to the side, put him on, Yeah,
we'll let him let it like, you know, not not
engage as much as can. But I think it just
comes back to you Stick as a human being and
what the club's about. They're looking after their own stuff
like that, and Stick, you know, Stick raying you right
(27:49):
away and said, mate, he's sort of like I couldn't
explain to everything what happened, but he just sort of said, mate,
did you are you in the wrong? I said, no,
there's no I didn't do anything, and he goes, I've
got you got straight on the front foot and started
saying that like this is not true and he and
he backed me up and yeah, as you saw, I said,
teams can just probably put your eyes, yeah side, But
like they put faith in me and let me go
(28:11):
out and play footy, and if I didn't, wasn't to
have to play foot in that time. I honestly don't
know what I'd be able to do, but you know,
I made it a real goal of mine to give
back to the club and try and prove them right
for sticking by me. That was it tough?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But sorry, was it tough trying to play footy and
deal with all that ship as well, like the cord
staff lawyers and all that ship.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, well mate, it was like played the first as
I mentioned before, probably ten fifteen games in you're starting
to play your own real career and you're trying to
deal with becoming an inneral player, how that how that
works and you know what works, what doesn't work, and
how do you prepare for a game and all this
sort of stuff and that then that's that's a full
time job in itself. And then away from footy, I've
(28:52):
got this, got this thing. I'm trying to navigate me,
navigate me. Like my family has never been involved in
anything like this before. So, as I mention before, I'd
lucky enough to have a lot of people around me
that would help me through mum and dad and extended
family and stuff like that. But yeah, that was tough,
Like you just always had that on the back of
your mind. You'd get to the footage training and you
do your bit, and then like every sort of moment
(29:13):
away from that, you're just thinking about like the sort
of funny story not funny stoo. But when it first happened,
I went and met the lawyer, met me lawyer, and
you run through me charge sheet. I'm just there thinking,
like I was just worried about footy, like oh I
don't get sacked, or like what's going to happen all
this sort of stuff like that was only twenty one
at the time. And then yeah, he's read out like
(29:34):
so you're facing X amount of years in prison. I'm
just got sorry what, Like that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So that was an option like or not case.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
He just tells you what, like you've got this charge, discharge,
this charge, this is what, this is what you're doing.
And it was like like fifteen ye I was like
sorry what and then like they're like oh shit, this
is like rich is real. Like so that was like
only a couple of days after the actual event. So yeah,
having to navigate that and then also having to navigate
your anil career, this thing that you've been working up
to your whole life to try and get to and
you finally got there, and then then I've got this darkly,
(30:05):
I just followed me around for four years, five years,
and it's still ongoing.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Is it still going on now?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, So I've been cleared of everything. I'm more in
the clear. And there's two police officers in court at
the minute that have been charged, so they're still going.
So I still still not like I like to go
back to court at the start of the year to
testify whatever whatever the right word is for it, to
have to relive it again go through it. I had
to take three days off training, so it's still dragging on,
(30:32):
but through the hardest that trouble.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Thing when they give you the worst case scenario, I was,
this is a whole different nowhere near that. But I
got caught when I was having a squirt down Nelly
way about one am in the morning. Anyway, that copper's
got me, went to my fingerprinted me charged with offensive
behavior and I remember sitting with a solicitor gun yep,
and he goes, well, let's just have a look. Okay,
(30:58):
now this is a maximum six months in jail. I'm like,
fucking oh no, just imagine you're going to go to jail.
I'm going to be having sex in the shower.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, school.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Making twelve months.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I played guilty there uge.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, that was Yeah, that was a tough that was
I was just for my heart sacked everything. I can't
imagine the head and it was all battered up. We've
just been Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So it was just a lot about Ricky, but it
also says a lot about you, the fact that Ricky
just asked you the question and then you said, no,
I've done nothing wrong with him, just to believe that
straight away.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, well I think that's that's been one of the
sticks things is you know, you do right by him,
will do right but you and Stick's obviously really good
at reading people, and he knows if you're a good bloke,
and like he doesn't recruit if you're not a good bloke,
you're not coming to you're not coming to canber or
if you're not a good bloke and you're not playing
for Stick. If you're not a good bloke, and you know,
obviously means stick have a really good relationship. And as
(32:00):
he said, like he said, and one of his big
things is don't lie to me, even if you're in
the wrong. Don't lie to me, and like we'll work
for it. If you're in the wrong, will work for it.
But you know, I just don't lie to me. And
like I obviously had nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And recruiting good blokes, then why is it that Matt
Tomco got signed.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
We didn't have a choice to him. It just every
team needs a grub.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Talk about one of the great characters in a sight,
Matt too is one of the best.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The boys told me that because he because when I
look at him on the field sort of the way
he plays in that to me, he looks like a
pretty sort of straight laced conservative bloke.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He's yeah, he's an interesting character. Matt Tomokay, he's quirky.
He's very quirky. He's all time man's that's the footy dynamics,
isn't it. The people that you come across in the
rugby league change room. Like it's like right now, even
like we just just rattle off our whole team and
just go like what a weirdo. But like it's it's
like a good old if you're not a weirdo, you're
a bit of a weirda.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It is funny that rugby league, right, Like it's like
opposite to the school yard where there's so many different personalities.
You can pick your group, you can pick who you know,
your sort of gang is. When you're in a raby
league team, anybody who comes in. If you want to
be a successful culture, you just you just embrace everyone.
You're just buying to everyone's weirdness. You have to otherwise,
like you just don't yell as a team.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Camaraderie spirits as important as you know, your hands on
your feet.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, it's just it's just so vital. Yeah, we often
joke about like if someone just walked through our training
right now and you just observe this, they'll be going
they need to be locked up in a learning bit. Yeah,
just like it's just like, yeah, it's just it's it's
fun like you just like you go on to training
with your mates and you're having a laugh and you've
got these odd characters are doing random stuff. So yeah,
(33:41):
Matt Tomko is up there with one of the one
of the top whereidos but Yeah, we love him down there.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
He's got some great teeth, great venue, he's got some vine.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Careful with the veneers be there's a thing there found
with in Premier League a lot of players in certain
clubs getting ham strings and soft tissue injuries, particularly ham strings,
and they were having the players were getting the then
is is and what it does changes your bite And
it's proven with your bite, like if you're you've got
(34:13):
a problem with your bite, it'll actually go down India
neck and go and infect your hamstring.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah, because there was a big thing in this primary
when I was over there, I have a lot of
trouble with hamstrings. And our doctors said to me, I'm
going to have a look at They had to look
at my jaw line. They said, now it's okay because
at the time they were fitting people with like a
device to slip with to try to straighten out their
bite for people with hands.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Sorry, sorry starts with some of these some of these
story he tells these days because he's been getting caught
out a lot lately for some of his yards. We
have to have a bullshit label across a certain certain
fact check, just a warning, well.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Somebody is wrong. Maybe it's not me, Maybe it's the
people on the message. I'm just I'm just delivering that.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a call dad like to say that just hang it,
let me just s eat it back to you to
say that getting veneers affects your hamstrings, which are completely
two different areas of the body.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
It's the bite, mate, There's.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
No need to get googl out cobber.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Let's just I will say.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
One of the boys at Melbourn. I don't want to
disclose who it was, because he wanted to get a
better jaw line. So we bought this device which he
would chew on in order to try to get the
muscles in his jaw better, like a.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Little rubber thing.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah yeah, have you seen that thing?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
The boys bite and bite on it relentlessly. It's like
chewing gum basically, but it just doesn't taste good. And
he ended up doing a hammy like But it was
like three or four weeks later as his jaw was
talking about. I don't know if it affected his bite,
but I will say there is a slight trend link.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Okay here it is now It says some research suggests
a connection between jaw position and athletic performance, including hamstring flexibility.
No official studies has been into veneers causing this, but
if veneers do affect a bite, it will affect hamstrings.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well there, we should do a study.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, how many of the boys got veneers? Just to
mocoas got normal?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He said beautiful until Ricky.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
To just get Ricky segment to let him go, Josh
future hamstring soft shoe injuries the.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Fox Josh Josh, Yeah, and he had a couple, had
a couple of hammymle got veneers.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He's got hamstring cheap cheese and his che said hamstrings.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He did his knee.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
He went close enough, it's part of the leg.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, that seems like a massive stretch. I don't not
not Campbell Graham, I would say, you're right, No, I'm
pretty good there there.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, show me yours?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You got fake teeth though?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
One of them?
Speaker 9 (36:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Just one?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Because I had one half a tooth knocked out? How's
that playing football? Because I never were a mouth guard.
You go a talk on the Phils playmaker.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's probably a dangerous for messages.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
It's not so much the hit a tea where where
I found out I was playing a game passed it
and someone had inside pressure and hit me right in
the back. You know, you get hit in the back
and your bite down, bit half my tongue off.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It was hanging by thread.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But we're having a big night out that night, so
I still went out. People were like, you were in nightclub,
just go you got to go to the hospital and nah,
and blood was just going and people were screaming, what
asked about? That's yeah, we got there once star abe man.
We had a real back in the day at the
nights Man, we had a real discipline as far as
going out and drinking. You know, come a hell of
(37:34):
high water. And once I got there and cut my
knee wrestling someone at a pub, like needed fourteen stitch
it upside of the knee. But all the boys are
going to Fanny's nightclubs. I can't miss it on that.
So I ran the doctor and see Fanny's nightclubs, can
just stitch me up there?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So he said yeah, So he come to the.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Nightclub, stitch me up, and just on we go. We
march a dawn did the docks day. Maybe he was
a man of the cloth of faith.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Did you what's your before we let you go? Well,
have you ever had a bad injury?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No, I've bote me jaw, that was about it. Oh really,
cheese actually did it to me playing for Melbourne up
in the COVID bubble. Yeah, is that. I don't know
why I went low on him. That's dumb decision for
me to go low on the cheese. And yeah, not
a place to go.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Triangle.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So that's probably That's not really the only really injury
I've had in first grade. I've probably only missed two
or three. I missed three games for that.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, because I remember you got knocked out pretty badly
as well, and so you knock out, do you remember? Okay,
this is this is a trend that and none of
us got involved in it because we wouldn't do this
sort of thing, and it was a very silly trend
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
We would not disclose kids to do it. But there
was a thing called danger can do you guys.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Remember that trend, So you would what you would do
is you would a danger can chant would start and
one of the boys would smash like a can over
their head head and then when it was like exploding
like a beer can, you'd scull it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But I don't know if you guys, you.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Definitely would remember when I say this, there was a
certain player who thought one time it would be a
smart idea to do that game but with a glass
bottle and glassed himself and it just went all over
him and he split his head.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And it was in a venue.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah it was that was.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
What club we're talking?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, they just said Burwood, So now they've they've narrowed
it down to newcomer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I was trying to keep it as broad as you
give me a OA, what positions you play?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
No, you wouldn't know him.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I don't see he doesn't play anymore, don't no, no,
but he Jack brought in the danger can? What about that?
We're just having a drink at the church. This was
at the church house out in the back of the garage.
And then Jack just out of nowhere starts doing the
danger can thing like the danger can? What is this
(39:59):
this bloke doing it? And he starts whacking himself over
the head of the can and then passes on the
next plable, Jack, what are you doing? And he's like that,
it's a game, let's all play it. So anyway ended
up being a good game to play. Yeah, I know
it was, but there is the glass. The glass.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
He ended up getting kicked out of the pub too.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, you can't glass people, even if it is yourself.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Even if it is you get me charged a piece
out to It was a bad cart oh yeah, but
it wasn't like a beat. It was like one of
them like small, like longer glasses that you get like
maybe a cocktail in and he's just got him on
the edge of that.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Just bang, fucking hell the i Q test.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
Yeah, Jack, I'll give him credit to because I remember
it was on a Saturday night and he rocked up
to twenties training. He rocked up the twenties training on
the Monday, and you know what, he hit it so well.
No one asked me.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I believe he went out that night. I think he
just wrapped his head up and put it.
Speaker 9 (40:51):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah great, what an excellent blake.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
We won't we won't name him, but he knows exactly
who is.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah. But the small group of people that there your number, Darky.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Year, all you guys at Lace United enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Right, I thank Starl.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Congratulations. You haven't a fantastic year, mate, both yourself personally
but the team is a collective and maybe be mat
It's great to see the emergence of the green machine.
Brother good Good on your great boys problem
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