#60 | Jake Trbojevic - Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah, if you say something that you might regret, we'll
send it to Buzz roth Field and then we'll take.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
It out exactly, send it all the media out let's
so you wouldn't believe what Jake I wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Believe what Jake said about.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Your buzz sound you get it? Joke had it.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So right there, give me a test testing So you go, beautiful,
We're on, We're on.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Is this thing on? One? Two? One too?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Check one too. We'll just go from me anywhere.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good on you, Jake. Thanks for being here, man, thanks
for having us. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, you're a good bloke.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oftentimes when people come here so you venture over this
part of the world much. But for you just down
the road, tough dry five minutes mate.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're living at worry Wood, n Yeah, that's where the
surfers are. He's right, really yeah? Yeah? Do you get
out there much, Jake? Do you get out the back?
Are you very buoyant?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Actually, believe it or not, we went surfing in the
off season as a team. I've got one of the
big boards.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh actually, all right, well you get up yeah? Really,
maybe you miss your calling? Are you a good swimmer?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Are used to be until I got, like, you know,
a bit heav.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, that had to be dragged dragged through the water.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, Like, one thing I want to bring up Jake
is because everybody always says, and this has been the
thing probably for the last decade, I reckon any NRL player.
There's not many NRL players you'd want to marry your sister.
But when that question gets asked, probably ninety percent of
the NURL has always said, Jake TARROI bitch. And somebody
actually took that literally. Corey Woddell actually took that to
the extremity of setting you up with his sister. Are

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you very happy with that?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I hope so?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I mean he can.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
We just try to Is it Corey Woddell's sister or
is it just someone that Corey picked up along the
way and said, okay, you can just give me a solo.
I want to get in thick with another contract the
brother in law.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, but you're going out to you hang out with
wads quite a bit, play together.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, is he do you reckon? What do you raid
him as a bloke? Yeah? Outside of being a brother
in law. If he wasn't your brother in law, you reckon.
You'd be made for him.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, me too. Oh yeah, but I'm not related, you
know what I mean, Like he's okay, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just just on that on your manly teammates, Jake, can
you just fill me in because I'm getting bits and
pieces all the time to continue to come in about
DC his wedding and the grub who m seated some
of the things he said.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Jake got a few that you got a fair you
mentioned in it.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was funny, I'll tell you. It was funny. You
got the disabled toilet one. Really that was the best.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, not that we can say it on it, but
there was a yeah, there was a couple of disabled
toilet jokes.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well it's just a joke. It's an old one. I'd
say to like you do it shows I actually gave
it to Cook.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I know that one.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Not that one.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Sure about you gave me one and it was about
Ben Hunt going into Harley camp. That it was that
was the worst of them. That it wasn't, Jake, because
Dad gave me that one.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That was a good one.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Smoking sell one to do with the MC people. If
you're listening, you want to have a laugh in the
so you just go right it it's just a couple
of rules here. Okay, let's respect the neighbors. You're going
to go outside, let's not too loud of course. You
know that's where you get your beers up there. Don't
take them outside, smogers. Please be good over there, you
head over that side, you know, don't smoke inside of course,
and look for people we want to use. The disabled

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toilet is just over there. Do your very best.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, it was. If you're disabled, find another toil And
that's what I said. I said, look, ladies, toilet over here,
bloke's toilet around there, and if you're looking to do
the disabled toilets over there, and if you're disabled, just
find somewhere else to go the toilet. But the worst
part was like there are a lot of people in
wheelchairs there because like some of Chess's grandparents and was

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in there.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
What would have loved it? Mate? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, what was having a laugh? What was having a laugh?
He's one of manly he's a manly great whock.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
He sings the if you ever see him in the sheds,
he sings the song with the boys or the every
time the Boys have a win.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh yeah, yes, yeah, great, yeah, I've met him before. Yeah,
easiest trivic fellow and.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
One of the smartest minds. Sorry, like greatest memories rugby
league and cricket you'll ever see. Is he a cricket
as well? Loves his cricket, loves his footy, anything about
mainly any any test tours. He's rugby league cricket from wow. Everything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's funny when when you're an MC or you're doing something,
it's horrible when you look into the crowd and you
can just see there's one person just staring at you,
not into it. She coops you one of you know
those ones where I've had a few weeks have looked
in the audience you think you're flying. Everyone else sort
of haven't laughed, but your turn, and there's one bloke
sometimes associated, usually close to the bride, there's just death staring.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
At I didn't know one person I did notice about
because he wasn't laughing. He was Des. He was there
and there was a couple of jokes that made about
Des and I was like, and I couldn't tell because
he wasn't really laughing. I couldn't tell whether it was
like offending him or not. But then after he come
up to me and he was like, mate, that was
plenty funny, Like that was bloody funny.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
There was one to Philip philp who he gets our
crowd going on the Thursday and Sunday night Terriffy Blake.
He told me the other day, he goes, Mate, I
just speaking gig the other day he said, I was
on fire. It's just one of the best I did.
But I looked around and he said Kent. He was
in the front row and just death stirring me the
whole time. He said, I made a joke going, ah,
look at this rest in Kent face.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I actually wanted to before we get on with asking
you some questions about yourself. The you and Matthew have
a bit of a rich history obviously on the Northern beaches.
But Dad, one of my favorite beach is great. You
know legends who's got more power on the Northern Beaches.
I'm not sure it's Jake for sure, you have to
he'd run for he'd run for the premier.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
As you head to a central coast up to Newcastle.
So you be careful me.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're dominant.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'll get my pos on you.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
But with those guys, the prank that Dad got you
and Turbo with in was it in the Rebel Sport
Day from Day from Dy but he was done in
the makeup. That's still I rewatched that quite a bit.
That's still one of the best pranks.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know. I don't know if I'm going to say this,
but I cotton on early you did. I was first
face to face. I went, that's Maddie John's.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah. I heard that they edited around and then I.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Did a bit of acting, you know what I mean.
I signed that when I was signing the pawn mag.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
That you knew by that I knew, yeah, because Jake
doing the porn magas he goes, is this the main edition?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
But he didn't give it back.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
The producer or whoever was there come up and said,
I do not ruin this, but like we've paid good
money to get all this stuff on you, and like
so I just went along with that, and it probably
worked out better because I gave the keys to the
could get in the car, you know what I mean.
If I didn't know, that would have worked out.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
So Tommy didn't. Like Tommy had zero idea, no, because
because you can if you've seen like Dad around a
lot you can see in the face it kind of
look like him.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well you hope you know that Tom had a promo
you know, maybe not?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, And with Tom, you know, that's the thing I've
learned about humans. God doesn't give you anything. Yeah. Tom
is fast, he's got a good spurt, he's somebody's looks.
But he's an idiots.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
He's actually he's not an idiot. He's actually intelligence. He's
actually an under not even undercover. He's a genius when
it comes to reading and writing books.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Mark, Yeah, ninety four point three eight. How do you
go any that anything mathematical? Give him an equation or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You're good, Tom? Okay, how are you at maths?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Like them?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
All?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right? But like when you're comparing me to Tom terrible?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
But Tom couldn't make forty five tackles, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, he's struggling with the twenty five at the moment.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Now, by the way, how good is lehigh?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
But you boys are playing outstanding at the moment. Last
week Good Winner three on the truck when recording this
and last week Good winn in Melbourne. Yeah, look and
the scene can I say the scenes afterwards Jakie when
you were in the sheds and they flashed down and
you kicked those poor power Aid bottles. They did nothing
to you, but you just decided to just kick him.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
So happy.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I know, I just I don't think I could believe
we just won in Melbourne, you know what I mean,
and a good win. I felt like an idiot aftter.
I didn't know the camera was on either, you know.
But anyway, have.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You had many wins in Melbourne in your career.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Believe it or not. I've had four, that's good, believe
it or not.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, you guys have kind of always been like a
bogie side for Melbourne.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
When we we well that was probably like long before
my time where mainly we're really dominant competitive.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But even when like even of the modern sort of generation,
even when you guys haven't been on your best, like
playing at Brookvale Oval when Storm come there, they kind
of struggled to play against your there.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We've been really good against him at Brookvale Over up
until this year. They touch us up in round five,
But the previous three before that we'd actually played for
quite well.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You remember a couple of them. I was a part
of one of them. Thanks for bringing me into it, Jakie. Yeah,
I was a part of one of them, probably probably
one of the more iconic wins. The mean we have
had a Bookie oval. Yeah, but that's well, that's why
it's got its name obviously now and you know what
that name.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Is, right, Jakie the Cup John's Cup.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yes, and I didn't even feed in that line as well,
that's just actually yes, yeah, thank you very much. I
appreciate you acknowledging that.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You're doing good form out of the blue. You sort
of found a bit of consistency. That's how I been
an issue consistency, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So I don't know, three good games, We've still got
a long way to go. You wouldn't say it the
consistent side yet. Week to week and even during a
game you could get ten minutes of gratefully ten minutes
of you know what, we're going to throw it out,
you know what I mean. So keep building on that.
We've got a tough one this Weekend's Bulldogs. They have
been a very consistent team. So it'd be nice to
go and back up our performance last week.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
How do you go?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Would be good? I mean, think about consistency, is right, is.
I mean, you've got to take them perspective. I mean,
one day we're going to die, you know. And since
she's done that speech, she freeze you up. I will
say this, if that's your barometer always for if you
should care, you'd fucking care about nothing or nobody.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's a great fallback option to always have that in
your back pocket, right, Like, it's excellent unmanly this year,
because there's been and I swear it's been the story
of sort of Mandy's identity probably the last three or
four years. There's always a bit of distraction going on
amongst the playing group, but particularly the last month. How
do you, as a leader and like push a lot
of the off field distraction aside to just get on

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with your job.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know. I stress out of it, if I'm
being honest.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Does it That's what captains do, don't they all leaders
of the team. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's hard when it's not going well. I'd like to
say I've got better at it. I thought I had,
but then this year, I don't know. Times is quite tough.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Because you wear losses quite like they affect you quite happy.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, Well, like I want merely to go well, you
know what I mean, whether I'm out there, anyone's out there,
I want the club to go well. I've been there
since I was fourteen fifteen, you know, so it is tough,
and women are not going great, but it's the last
few weeks have been enjoyable, and be nice to keep
building on that because it makes life way easier.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's amazing, and a team isn't And I think you're
the best example of it, Jake. People just some people
on the side, and everyone should just care so much,
you know. And I've seen you sometimes been tears after
a loss, so disappointed and deflated by it. And I
don't want you to comment on this, but there's always
one or two, sometimes two or three blokes in the

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team which and I'm not exaggerating, just don't care. Right
for them, It's just a game and they get paid
for it. And in the really good sides, those players
don't so much get don't hide. They get converted. You
know that, you know, they get converted by the strong
leadership in the bad clubs, you know what you make
their attitudes just you know, spreads like COVID through the

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team and you know, and again I don't want you to
comment on this, but I look at the dead situation,
right and you know, the massive the massive blobe, and
imagine you get PTSD. When you saw it, you'd be going, oh,
I've had a few of those, but you know, to
be in the shed to give them spray. Then looks
over it and there's blokes in the show room allegedly
sort of laughing and being jvial, Like fucking hell, Like, you.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Wouldn't comp that, would you, Jake, like referring to the
dead thing. Obviously, there's like it comes from a good place.
I think, like he just he just wants to win.
He's a winner, you know what I mean. He's one
of the greatest coaches I've ever had, So it is
I guess it is hard when you see that. Yeah,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, what was the question again?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
For you? You get there sometimes, yeah, and you'd be
so deflated. And I'm not asking the name players, but
there'd be times during your career they'd be so deflated
and you'll glance over in the room and you can
just see these blokes and they're having a little bit
of laugh together. Yeah, what the fucking hell.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, Definitely, it definitely is hard, as as you said,
especially when you invest so much and you sort of
care so much. And like I was saying it just before,
like mainly sort of I've been at mainly since I
I want merely to do well. I want merely to
be a great club, you know what I mean. And
I look at all the throughout the history we've been
a great club, you know, like ninet Grand finals on
eight Premierships, you know, the last forty years I've had

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won every decade, you know what I mean. So I
want to be a part of that. And it's it's
hard right when it's not going well. So it is
definitely hard when you care so much. But I guess
that's what's sort of that's just part of me, I guess.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And that's part of it. Like Jake, like they use
the Gold Coast the area itself as an excuse. They go,
look at the beautiful breaches, blah blah blah blah, and
I've got this, that and the other. Mainly, you know,
this area is not that much different, you know what
I mean. It's not known as this sort of glitter strip,
but there's a lot of distractions here. There's a lot
of beautiful breaches, there's a lot of things to do,

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doesn't stop mainly being successful.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, well, I think one thing that like, I don't know,
you just look at the club. They've just had people
who just want to be successful, hard works. I look
at the generation before me, the Stuart Brothers, what males,
you know, Jamie l Matpmn, all hard players, wanted to
play for each other, you know what I mean, And
just I don't know, that's what they built their identity on. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just I guess I'm at the club to like,

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we've time to time, we do that, but we're not consistent,
you know what I mean. So that's where I want
us to sort of get to, you know what I mean.
They just build it on hard work and they've just
I don't know, it's hard to explain.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is there a game, Jake, Was there a moment or
anything when you're a kid that makes you fall in
love with the club.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah? Yeah, with what we see it every time we
verse the storm, we see the twenty eleven were actually
Maddy Nabel like sort of does a piece for us,
and it's just yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's like fail. Yeah, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The fighting and don't we don't contain violence, but just
the way they just back each other up. Like Bren
Stewart ran from Honestly, he looked like you got slingshot
over there to running because for his brother, you know
what I mean that sort of stuff, It gives you goosebumps, yep,
Like yeah, like I just just seen they like sort
of played by a code, you know, the way they
played like they.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Were just and I reckon Jake that that side. At
the time there was a great rivalry against the Melbourne Storm.
But I remember hearing some of the Blakes, so I
tear what happened. Jake was in this certain game in
the year. It was two thousand and eight and two
thousand and eight season, and they had always been a
favoriti niggle between Manly and Melbourne and just played brook

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Vale Label and Melbourne won. However, there was a couple
of stinks in the game, and I think one of
the Melbourne players gave Brent Kyde a Russian toothbrush. People
has dropped your knee of his achilles, and the players, yeah,
Russian toothbrush, so they dropped the player. Brent Kite dropped
the ball, just turned around and started throwing them. And
the next day I run into some of the manly

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boys and they were like, mate, and I said, fire
game last night, and they said, yeah, mate, we're not.
We just decided I'm not going to take any of
their fucking ship, you know. And I suppose that that
was part of that team's success, definitely.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm just how passionate they were for the area. Like
I still see Bret Stewart a fair bit today, you know,
he's around the club a bit, seeing how passion he
is for the club, you know what I mean, I
understand why they were so successful. They were such great
players and top white males they're coaching, you know, in
the lower grades, and I don't know, just you just
understand why they were so successful. And then obviously they
had des leading them, and he's just a great leader

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of men, right, very passionate, worked extremely hard, and I
just I know just why that they sort of built.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
When you were young, Jakie, like your first year in
the that NRL squad training, who was like who was
the boat you looked up to?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's quite yeah, Well I was lucky, right, So
I was. When I was fifteen, I was coaching at
Man of Our Raiders. So I actually coached Jamie Lyon's sons.
His two sons and Maddie bowen sons were playing at
the race, so I sort of knew them. So they
were Actually they were really good mentors for me, those two,
and it helped that I knew them because I'm a
bit of an introvert, you know what I mean. I
don't put myself out there, yea coming into a great side.

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I wasn't really playing. I was just training.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
But it's daunting first, very daunting, Yeah, and then everyone's
older than now, and then.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Like also like you know what I found funny? Like
I didn't know whether to call like Anthony, what man?
Do I call him Anthony or Chock? Like everyone calls
him chock?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
What you have to earn?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah? How do I do that?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
That was just like did you what did you do?
Did you did you use?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I think I said Anthony, I can't remember, And then
I quickly realized that was that was that was.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Anthony does.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
But what's some good that? What good karma for you?
It just shows like people listen to that and get
an appreciation there. You put yourself out there, you spent
your time, You're coaching the under fifteen side, and inadvertently.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I was sorry, coaching under six is under six.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Sorry you're fifteen, apologize and you're coaching the under sixers
and you got to know those guys help get you
into that team.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It was a great blessing this guys. They're still great
mates of mine.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Who was your first coach there when you first come out?
Yeah right, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Just very passionate. His passion was his greatest strength is
the way he was about to run out there with us,
like you know what I mean, like you just wanted it,
you know.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It was the toughest bloat mate.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
He and he and Kieran just peas in a pod.
I've actually got it to's jersey the ninety seven Grand Final.
We swapped it and the jersey is just covered in blood.
Trish wanted to wash it and I said, mate, don't
wash it. It's just because at that game he went
off twice, remember, stopped on his head.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's right, I'll do it. Stud marks in his eyes
and that right.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, it's half you know what, I can't believe. It's
great you got his jersey, but how do you swap
a Grand Final winning jersey? I never understand how they
do that to this day.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I heard, yeah, there's an old trick. Here's an old trick.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
He what's the old trick.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
The old trick is you changed jerseys at halftime. So
whenever I played in a State of Origin and Australian team,
they always have two jerseys. So I'd say to the
gear Stewart, I've got a tear in this jersey or
something and I'll put that one in a bag and
then half time get the other jersey and that's the
one this swapped. Isn't that in the middle of an
important game?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Did you do that in the Grand Final? You took
your jersey off, through it in your bag and got
a new jersey. Yep, that's very smart, because I remember
when when ys smart. Remember when we played out a
mudge and it was Jack and I playing against each
other and after the game, Jack went we shouldwap jerseys
like this is a pretty cool moment for the family,
and I was like, yeah, that's right. I took it off,
swapped him with it and it ended up in a drawer.
And I remember Newcastle felt like they won and we

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felt like we lost because we were I think we
were favorites to win that game, and and I went
back in the shed rum was filthy. And then how
happy was Rossy ROSSI our gifts to it. Rossie, who's
a terrific bloke. He's like the nicest bloke in the world.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Great gearst you're too, Me and him picking up the
bottles together. Anyway, after I kicked him, he is awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
He's the best bloke. And Rossie goes and I'm like, shirtless,
just got this night jersey and he goes, who's your
fucking And I swapped it with my brother, thinking like oh.
He goes, oh yeah, good, and he goes fuck off, yeah,
oh yeah, and he goes, that's going to costure and
we just can We've just drawn and I was like, Rossie,
I don't need this right now, right now in this
moment talked about it didn't end up charging me, thank fuck.

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But they take it. They they're very they don't they
don't let you give jerseys out very lightly these days.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I hated it in a because every time I played
for Australia, I wanted to keep your jersey. I was
not swapping right, Actually I did once where I wanted
to Kieran fourn I was very happy to do that.
But then once we're playing Scotland and a bloke come
up to me and said, oh, can we swap? And
I was I didn't know what. I said yes because
I didn't know what to say, and I was after
I was secretly burning because I love keeping my jerseys
sort of things.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Scottish jersey, well here we only want to swap with
was Yeah, that's one of the.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Reasons why it stopped. Jake and that that was the
tradition in Grand Finals as soon as the full time
siren went. You know, in the eight seventies and eighties ongoing,
they would swap jerseys and it stopped when sponsorship start
to become so prolific because you know, if.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
You're in the you're in a team photo.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
You're in a two polo and you're wearing the other jersey,
which is killed me looking back.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah I was the player.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean in the other I just
won the comp.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I haven't won a comp, so I don't know how
what it feels like, but you're wearing the other team's
jersey in the photos. That would hurt me.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah. Imagine being the head of the CEO of a
company who's paid all this money to they just won
the comp You're wearing the Bulldogs jersey.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah. Pepsi is the sponsor this year and Coke's the
opposition also wearing these Coke Coke jerseys.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, that's yeah, that makes sense, I think, because I
think that is a big issue. Even that they say
like they don't want to swap jerseys now because when
they get photos after the Grand Final, I think sponsors
actually like haven't written in these days.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm pretty sure it would be.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, but you never see really, you don't see too many.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You see way you're swapping now.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Jake, how how you were raised? Right? So a lot's
been said about this, but I remember turning up at
Mona val Oval when we're coaching, when the boys were
playing for Hardboard, and there was yourself, Tom and Ben
and the family, your mom and dad everyone there and
they're putting mom and dad working the barbecue. You guys
are doing the lines on the field, put the witches

(21:30):
hats out, all that sort of stuff, Like where'd that
come from? Is that the old man driving that?

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah? Definitely, it was definitely mum and dad. Like I
don't know. Once we started playing for the Raiders. I
think from a year or two since we started playing.
Dad was just right into it. He was always on
the barbie. He was the president. He's just all down there.
It was part of our life, Like we go down
there every Friday hour, but we're excited for it. We
had lots of great friends, Like down there it was
all are You'd be there all night because Dad's on

(21:58):
the barbie. Then we go back the next morning. We'd
first there and you'd be there till the end because
we're setting up. And I don't know. That was definitely
coming from my mom and dad. They're always a big
part of it. But we loved it, you know what
I mean. It was cool, Like we go down a
year at six am, would be playing midday or whatever.
Then you watch every game play and then watch every
game after that.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You're old boy. Even at Captain's Run, still at Manly,
your boy will get down on the bar Actually he's
on the barbie tomorrow on the glass barbie. Yeah, he
over there with some snags and like that's obviously he
doesn't have to do it. But you and Tommy like
that's Ingraind and Bennie in all of you boys like
the amount of work that you guys do with Junior
forty two and and probably thankless promo. You know how

(22:38):
the boys would have to do promos for sponsors sometimes
and the boys might go, oh look not today like
you boys go above and beyond to just give back
to Manly but also the local community. Oh sorry, it's
a nice.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Ground announcing. One day. I think you were a ground.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Announced Oh yeah, monotone ground announce it. But I was
did me best?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
But that is that is in crab Art.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Did you know when he was playing and did haro
mats and ball? I think I might have been just.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
When the boys were playing. I'm listening and the ground anounce,
I went, man, that ain't Grand Goldman and uh which
is the older announcer. But I'm sitting now I know
that voice and look up and you're the grand announcer.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah see I remember seeing you with is it Keith
the Onslow Keith? He was there with you that day.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yes, he was the guy that discovered Andrew and I
was he what recruitment officer was?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, he was really nice.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
He was our manager for the Junior Kangaroos in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Was he terrific for a great rugby league.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Man. Yeah, no, I remember seeing, remember seeing he's down.
There was up on the mic, number one and let
you number one, what a try.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I was so bad she actually had to commentate, No,
not commentating, just announced that score.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, to scored lineups before the game.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
And it's only you are there was anyone else with you.
It's just me that that's actually a pretty tough gig
if you're not like if it's just your first time
doing things.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Because I used to go and what Tom play? Right?
And I was I must have been an SG ball,
So I mustn't have been playing that day, right, because
it mats an SG ball, So I must have been
the twenties or something. Yeah, And they didn't have anyone
and I did it once and then it just become
a thing. I was on for home games.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That is so funny. From you, that is so good
because you look, we talked about how much you love
Manly now. But you're a nice supporter growing up, right,
And is that like you can give this fellow a
rap if you want or don't. Jeez, what where does
that come from?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'll be honest with you. I started the first game
I ever watched was two thousand and one, the semi
final against the Roosters. Yep, Adam McDougall and Joey had
the Blinders. I think they won about forty to six
or something, right, and then from then on in it
was Adam McDougall and Andrew John's my two favorite players,
like really mad one. Yeah, because that game, go back

(24:50):
and watch the highlights. Mad he played so good and
then obviously just jumped in the bandwagon. Then a few
weeks later, Grand Final twenty four, you'll lead a half
time gone out to this my team.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
There's a moment in that game that a little period
in the game to symbolizes Joey and competitor and you
know his ability to play. He gets not totally unconscious,
started that game and a few minutes later it takes
the ball, beats about five blakes, scores and turns around
the Rooster's blakes and goes fuck you, fuck you, and
fuck you.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Really I've watched the because when I was young, I
got the two thousand and one sorry, two thousand and
one Nights here you'd watch all the games in highlights. Yeah,
that game, watch it. There's some great commentary like Ray
Warren was calling him Messiah. Yeah, Peter Sterling goes he's
a bit like it was.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah really but that that year, you know, Jake, because
I was over in Wigan, I was, I was in
England and Andrew suffered injury in the middle of the year,
missed about six weeks. In all of those games they
did see a pump by fifty and then the game
that he returns, they played at home against the Broncos
who were flying and night to put forty in nil.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
There is like when I remember watching some of the
highlights from those years and Joey was he nearly won
a dal a M one year and he'd only played
like I think a third of the games in the season. Yeah. Yeah,
but like there is a handful of players like that
who are so the team not relying on them. But
there are some years where if they lose that one player,

(26:15):
and Turbo is an example, like some years like when
Turbo's been out. Yeah, basically you know, like there's been
so many losses in a row after it because you're
so much of.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
The attacks twenty one when he got the Dali M,
we started oh and four. Yeah, that's right, we got
a winning round five, we kicked a drop goal. He
wasn't playing and then he come back in mudgie round
six and he won. Dallim we may top four from
oh to four. Yeah, he's just like just the belief
you got from having him on the fields.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
It is a different like and I've only played the
one year at Manley, but when the difference in having
Turbo out there versus not whether whether he had a
big game or not, it was like the confidence you
give everyone else. Sometimes you go into the game.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Like what they like, do what you see. It's their
presence and like from when he's at fullback for instance,
the way he sort of directs people around and like
just communications. Yeah, it's just like different. And I feel
like when he plays, the whole crowd bloody has a leaft,
you know what I mean? The lookball oble is different.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Every time he gets the ball, everyone gets to their feet.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Was he What was he like as a kid as
a player? Was he was? Was always a freak?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, he's always just Yeah he's from a young age
just scoring trid.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
That frustrate you because I'm proud older brother, but may
you work your ass off right? Your gift, and it
is a gift. It's passion. That's your gift, and people
underestimate that, mate, getting up for games, having passion. Mate,
it's a skill, and it's a gift that's yours. You know,

(27:51):
Tom's an incredible athlete. You know watching him times you
watching him and go, fuck, hell, come on, give me
a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I would love some of that, a bit of speed.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Or something, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
You've got to be very proud, like very like watching
him go out there and play well and whatever, overcome
everything and just be so resilient, like yeah, very like
he's one of the most resilient people I've ever seen
what he's had to like go through and people talking
about him.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
And he works. He works bloody hard.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So hard that no one understands how hard he works.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Was he good at other sports?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
He played AFL? You had to hear the body type
first sort of AFL. You know what he was really
good at, Like I'm talking freakish at nippets?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Oh really?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah. I've seen the pictures of him in.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
His sprint and the beach flags from under eights. Now,
when is when can you start going to the States.
I think that's ten whatever age it is to under fourteen's,
the sprint and the beach flags. He was first or
second in the state every time at the cardival, really
every year.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm thinking. You know what I'm thinking,
just gonna race down he and Damien.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I think Tom's has grown out. I don't think flag
suits him and he Oh yeah, I mean the whole
big turning circle.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Got a question, Hey, Jakie, longtime fan, first time listener
to Jubilee. I was just going to say to you
when you were talking about Tom during that twenty twenty
one year. So we were in lockdown with the Manly Boys,
Roosters Boys, and Panthers boys that year, and you just
spark my memory. I think Des gave chairs the big
bungalow because all the coaches got given like I.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Need to sorry, I need to stick up for chess
here anyway, keep going.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
We used to walk past Das all the time as like,
because you're always it's weird you're living and playing against
all these teams and dees. Anyone that came near him.
Everyone knew not to say a word to.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Him out for chess. Yeah, because he had three kids,
he actually paid for that bungalow.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh did he so wow?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
People who said he got given a entitled No, he
paid for it right anyway, Des, and he's alread Yeah, wait,
when Des walked in a room, even when he was
your coach, he owned that room, like you can be
talking whatever he'd walk in and he just that room
was his. You know, I don't think I've ever seen
anyone like it. Maybe Melvin Inger, but like when it's
just I don't know. And was it tough?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Because we we all you know, coaches go through such
ups and down, highs and lows of the season plus COVID,
How did you guys find it living alongside the coach
every day? Because I've at Newcastle.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I loved, I loved it. I loved It's one of
those things.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Because it's so hard because you've got a coach who's
just like living it every day and then the players
try to get away from it, like what were your
days off?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, he was actually really good, I think early on
everyone said because obviously he loves it, right, and he
was just just go into so much detail.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
He's a days off.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
We're gonna have days off, right, But I'll tell you
a funny story. So I've been out for a month.
I told my loop, believe it, I'm not power athletes.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
How have you ever done a soft tissue in power athlete?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Come back? Right? And we played the Tigers and we won.
We actually won quite convincingly, but I defended very poorly, right,
and just like I'm talking on the ground that sort
of stuff, right, anyway, I was. I was literally I
went through on a mile, I'm going to retire stages, right,
And I went to I went up to Desir's bungalow.
He was on his own, Christine hadn't moved up there yet,

(31:10):
and we went through every tackle, watch every tackle with men.
At one stage, he had me on the floor in
his bungalow showing me the wrestling move and how to sprawl.
Like I'm literally on his floor and he's sprawling on.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Me like teaching your hands on it, like there's that
old story.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
And him in his room.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Walked in, ok It.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
That was the sort of depth you go to, like
you could see I was. We watched every single tackle
I did, and it was actually a few that I
think I played eighty minutes, right, But I just wasn't
happy with it. Right, and we watched every like I'm
talking from when the player I was tackling hit the
ground to when they got up. We just looked at
everything and then he was even showing me like that
should fit.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
But it's good. It's a good rap for you there, Jackie.
I can jump in with you. Like a lot of players,
if they have a bad game, they kind of want
to forget about it and just move on. Whereas it's
a good sign in you and it's a good lesson
for young kids who are listener might want to be
wanted to play in a roll one day, like your
proactiveness to go to your coach and actually watch every
single tackle like it's a sign that you want to
get better as well, because a lot of people and

(32:11):
I'll pull my hand up. I used to do it
sometimes after a shit game where you just flush it
and almost want to just move on to the next week.
You'd tell, ah, wow, that was I was trying to have,
you know what, No more wraps for either of you this, no, no, sorry,
you can you can take over from there. But like
you're has that always been something with you? Like is
that something you just want to get better?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah? I think so. But also sometimes it does get
what you just said, like you had to you don't
go so well or whatever, and teams are going well,
you literally just want the next week. But I think
I don't know. I think it is you just always
knew you'd have something really proactive for you to work
on and you could get better. And you knew if
he told you something, you would have thought about it
till three a m. That bloody night.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You're real foot, you know, like you'll watch you'll watch
all the games.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I used to, like when I first come into first
go to watch every show, every game, every Now I
really watch a game.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
What about shows?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I used to watch every single show just and now
I just can't do it. Just too much anxiety, too
much stress that I just can't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Too much.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Well, I was going to say, for you, mate, like
for you're when it comes to rugby league're one hundred
out of one hundred half measures. I was going to
ask you that how do you how do you get
away from the game? How do you finish a game
and then let it go?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
And yeah, it's been half for me, Like my wife
Alex has been great for that for me. Perspective in life,
you know what I mean, like realizing there's so much
more than just footy. But it's hard, Like it's as
I said, I put so much into it and I
just want mainly to do well.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Like it's I tell you what she she does you
in in the Sunday paper. One of that stuff was horrific.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
But she deserves the medal for bloody dealing with me.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
And they asked, what is is? What's Jake like around
the house? Yeah, how he's with a cook that she goes.
He's sort of you know, similar, He's probably not that great.
He does things like he wraps the this in ol foil.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
That's honestly a thing I need. I need something.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
What else to do with He put the electric in
the dish washing.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I didn't do that, and you know what, I couldn't
be bothered. I just could not be sorry. I couldn't
be bothered to wash it. And I was like, that's
going and I'm just so did it break it? It
didn't the first time, so I thought it was sweet.
The second time I did. Yeah. My latest one was
you know those metal bowls, yea, I put that in
the microwave.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
It literally caught on fire. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
It literally was like, mate, it is it's I did
it with.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I didn't know that was foil apparently that's yeah, it's
I thought it was aiming in foil. I didn't know
it was oluminium.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, I put I put foil in a while before. Okay, well, cheese,
you's not that stupid. Another thing. I give him the
betat of the doubt and then he just stashed me
in the back. I thrown it in there and instantly
it was like it was like a storm cloud in there.
There was like lightning and ship going about. I gotta
get this.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Do yourself, makes me stations and at the end of
the day, we're all going to die one day, right.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's right. Just let yourself be free made correct.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Anyway back to Alex deserves the bloody metal for dealing
with me, honestly, ups and down, Like yeah, ups and
downs honestly.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
But you're naturally you are like quite an anxious person, right,
very nervous, very yeah. But but that's because you care,
Like when it comes to your footy, you I care
so much.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That sometimes it's like I look forward to a day
where I don't have to care as much. Is that
is that? Am I spot on? Dad? Well, you like it,
but I don't know if I'm fast forwarding away something
that's so good, like I love it? But also why
do not feel like this? You know what I mean?
You hope that doesn't come across the wrong way because
I love it.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Jake, You're exactly right, mate. I at the start of
my career I had great disdain for people who after
like was able to just let things go straight away,
disdain the word no. I couldn't. I just couldn't understand it.
Why an't you hurting?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Like?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And then I realized later on that my attitude was
actually burning me out. Yeah, you know. And you look
at Bovo right like Beav is an example, like we'd
lose an Origin game or a test game. I look
over and be like, oh yeah, it would be laughing
and to be hurting a little bit. But he's able
to let it go. And hence why he played here
in the UK almost five hundred pers because you know,

(36:21):
it didn't take a mental toll the day the day
that I got injured and I knew it wouldn't play again.
I'll be honest with you, Jake. Set the emotion I
felt relief most. The emotion I felt the most was relief.
I was like, yeah, fuck, it's over. I can stop
torturing myself.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
See I think like that sometimes too. Then, But then
I think what also drives me is that I play
alongside my brothers too. It's something I just don't want
to give up. I don't want to give it up anyway,
but I don't want to get that feeling. And ever
since Ben's coming in, Like obviously me and Tom took
it for granted, right, So Tom deboot my fifth game.
So we've always played together, so it was just like, yeah, whatever,

(36:58):
But now Ben's playing. It's just like I think that's
what just like drives me to I just want to do.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
You worry about Ben on the field?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, about everything, more so than Tom because he is
the like the youngest.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Like, yeah, I definitely worry about Ben. I wanted to
do well. If he's worrying about something, I'm worrying about it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
But you also wear it like a little inside for people.
You were like when Turbo was going through a lot
of his injuries, like you would wear a lot of
that too. I remember when Urb's got hurt mid year
twenty twenty three, like that took a fair toll one
like you. It seems like as the oldest you wear
a lot of the pressure of all the boys.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, I don't like seeing bad things happen, you know
what I mean. And then obviously know what everyone says
about you know, Tom and that sort of thing, And
I just know how much hard he were. I just
don't want it to happen, you know what I mean.
It just kills me. So it's great seeing him play
some good foot That's great seeing all his hard work payoff.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Can I ask a tough question here, Jake? And I
think it's a question I'm going to ask because you know,
bloke's like yourself and Tom Right, it's so easy to respect,
so easy respect. There's young blokes out there, young foot
ball as, young people in general, young girls and everything
that are in on the end of like horrible trolling,
like even blokes like you and Tom Cobbett Online.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, I don't. I don't go on my social media.
I just don't go on it. Like I've I got
it there in case I have to do something, but
I put it on loot. My other brother who doesn't
play foot Luke's phone. Yep, I was like, change the
password and do not tell me at all costs, because
you know when you first I deleted the ARP, and
then I'd get bored, so I'd go back on it
right just to look at things. And then now I've
had it gone for years, so I don't need to

(38:31):
look at it, right. But yeah, you still definitely as
like people say, you know you're fat, you're slay. Well
that's true, but you know what I mean, it just
don't make you feel good, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Why Yeah, why give something the attention if it's just
going to be negative and like.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It's people get Some people get a right access to
you they don't deserve, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Like you think about those people who do that, right,
and you got to think of it like this. Here,
he's a person that was born one day and their
mother and father had such great ambitions for them. You know,
they grant going to be a doctor, are they going
to do this? Such ambitions and these people end up
sitting in a basement trolling people that were better than
How the fuck do they live with themselves? And I

(39:11):
feel so sorry for their parents.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, I know it's hard, like it frustrates you at times.
Then you just got to I don't know, you put
into perspective. So I'm just doing my best. Honestly. It's like,
you go out there, compete as hard as you can.
I've had to say, like people for said, like, you
compete as hard as you can in that moment, and
then it's done. It's easier said than done, but that's
why you try.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
And well, And I just bring that up because I
want people like young to hear to understand that even
Joke Travoivis and Tom Travoyevich, who the easiest place to
respect cop shit off these morons?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, well, I think there's probably not even outside of athletes.
So you're in the media now obviously, but you you
have a good perspective. You've lived through three generations when
it was like the newspaper and then technology kind of
sort of came in, and now it's like full thriving
to an AI level where everybody gets access to everything.
You being off like, you don't have that habit like

(40:03):
probably a lot of us younger guys have, So you
don't you don't know what people think about it.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Now I have it on bliss.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's the best thing I've done. I would say to
any professional athlete. I know they've got to do it
for promos and promos and they make money off it,
which I get that, But if I was saying performance,
I'd get rid of it. Honestly, I don't know what
it serves for you for your performance. I guess you
get paid from it some people, but I would advise
anyone to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well, you know. And the thing about is Jake White
becomes such a surprise talking to some players have asked
me advice on it. Why it becomes such a surprise
is the times they do get on it was after
they have a blinder and they get on there expecting praise.
But you can't please those people, right, and that they
get on there and they're getting hammered, and keep your right.

(40:49):
The transition from into the digital age and internet age
like living through that. Back in the day, a person
would write a letter to the editor that what a
troll did, either say something in the back of a
toilet door, or they'd write a letter to the newspaper
and being there right where. And I remember when the
Internet came in and suddenly the boys were saying to training.

(41:10):
Have you seen these things, these forums, fans forums. We're like, nah,
they said, oh mate, you should sue the fucking saying
about you, Blake, We're.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Going, who would do that? I just don't. I don't
get it. But you know what, you know, you said
you look at things when you have a good game.
You're not Freddie Tommy. Once in Origin camp, we just
had a we didn't play well, we lost those devastated that. Mate.
We don't read the papers when we win, so it
gives us the right to not do it now when
we lose, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
So I think that's just the great Yep, he's got
some great things, Freddie, like something that was just I
was like, you know, that's so true, Like like why
when you go, well, just don't even look when you're
going that's it. It's just then then you've got the
right to not look.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
At the end of the day, jake yourself. You know,
when you've had a great game and you're satisfied in yourself,
you don't need to jump online and give vindication of others.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Well, that's the thing, and I think that's what I
learned from Now I've gone back to DEAs a lot.
But just the way my strengths and playing my strengths.
And I'm not a player who's going to go out
there and power out two hundred meters, you know what
I mean. I'm play in the middle, but I'm not
going to do that right, it's not going to offload.
I'm not going to score a couple of try.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
You have really right when chess passes over the line, I.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Wouldn't believe it. Someone backed Josh King last night for
two tries at eighty one dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Did they score?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
He scored a double.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Josh King didn't watch it.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, that's that's yeah King, he scored a double against
I know the King's mat and he King he hasn't
got out of first year since a great player, great
great player.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
King back in a way backed him last night because
our producer was sitting there. It's Murphy's law, and HEINDI goes, oh,
I'm back a bit, I'm back one of the forwards tonight,
Josh King and our producer he goes hot, Josh King, Mate,
he never scores, and I went, you know what, I'm
going to Murphy's Loaurman to back him for a double.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, he's a good player.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
He's a good player. When when they did the Origin
teams and they said King for Max King, Maxking very
well deserved to actually played great. I thought they met
Josh King, and I went, that was even well deserved,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, yeah, and he's very so consistent. Like when you
talk about an NFL playing and what coaches teach you
as a player to strive for King is a great example,
like King is an example of bloke who gives you
seven and a half out of ten.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well, first game is the same.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, that's what I mean, Like you know exactly what
you're going to get out of him, and that's what
you want as a teammate.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
A state of origin, your memories, Jake, some of your
best memories in the.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Game, without doubt. Yeah, I mean my manly career hasn't
been like oh it's been great, but hasn't been the
most successful career. Right, So state of origin and playing
red football sort of where I've got my Like I
think back to like last year twenty twenty four being captain,
like that was one of the most amazing experience I've
ever had, right, don't be wrong. I felt so out
of my depth and so nervous and whatever. But that

(43:53):
went up there at some court was just I don't
think I've ever been so happy. I don't so the
only other time is twenty nineteen when he scored that
try and that I was on the field for that.
I've then I would have ran a high speed meter
from about eighty meters back to get to Teddy. I
was so happy, like yeah, some of the like it
feels like that sort of arena gives like, I don't know,

(44:14):
just career like gives you a bit of worth, like
I don't know, you get success on the big stage,
that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
When you got that call about being captain, like we
obviously it was unexpected because you weren't even captain in
the club. But when you got that call, were you
just like how.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I was going to get in the team right, So
like twenty twenty three, I didn't play games one and two.
I played Game three and then new coach. I was
just hoping to get the team. And then Madge called
me on the Sunday. I was walking the dog with
Alex and it's having a chat to me and I
want you to be captain. I was, I felt sick.
I was really like very stoked, but like, how am

(44:50):
I going to captain? These blokes have got like Ao's
captain four premierships, so this you know what I mean? Like,
how am I going to do this?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Like the theme of hole matches too. He carried that
blue jersey and the lead up he went and saying,
this is what come on, tell me what this jersey means?
And you you're you're the perfect example. It was exactly
what you're after. Did you learn a lot of magic?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I did? Blokes that passionate and he just wants it,
like he just wants it, like I could imagine not
there Brisbane just driving his success and like he just
will not let Yeah, I learned great.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Well they just talk about prison and they start like
it seems like that first half of the year for mate,
it's been hard because he's trying to change a whole
different culture to what he sees is important. Looks like
they're starting to come Like.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
If they that bloke wants, he wants, he wants, they're the.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Kind of signe if they peep coming into finals, they're
dangerous talent.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
They're a huge chance. You judge, you judge, coach sometimes
not just in results, how much he improves the players
ship of Saki.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Look at.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
The center Tony stands, look at the improvement and all
those players and those young players. Willison, Yeah, you know
he's manages a great coach.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah he was, he was. He was great for that around.
He put so much passion into it too. As you said,
he had that jersey everywhere. Anyone who come into camp,
any former player, them up there, tell us what this
means to you?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Luck?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Is it even like go to this year? You know
round before the game one state of origin you got concussed.
Was it up in Townsvill or something? I think? And
you know obviously ruled out. Was that going from the
captain last year and winning, How tough is it for you?
Obviously that jersey means so much. You're so passionate to
sit on the store.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Obviously, like had a kind of thought I probably wasn't
going to be there anyway, you know what I mean.
So it wasn't like like I kind of had that
vibe that I wasn't going to be there, But it
was definitely like you want to be out there, you
know what I mean. You want to be a part
of it. You're obviously passionate for the Blues, right, so
you want to be out there, But I don't know.
I think I was still just as passionate watching I
was loving it. That first game was great. That was like, well,

(46:50):
that's like getting that into it. It was almost like I
was on the bench again, you know what I mean. Crazy.
I remember.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I remember we were texting each other after game one
and you were just like, bloody, get that up your
Queen's like you were, I would still say, And I
was like, I remember sitting there thinking, that's so sick
for someone who's just he's been there and done it,
it'd be very easy for you to go. I wish
I was out there, but you're still so stoked for
some of your teammates will play a new game.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, I just wanted them to win so badly. Was
that first game. As I said, I was probably carrying
on a bit to you that don't read the text now.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Please have you toured over sus with You've been over
there on tour? Yeah, amazing experience, amazing.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah. I did four Nations in twenty sixteen, yeah, and
then World Cup twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I enjoy the tour in England.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, both of them were in England twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Have you with the Big Three then? Yeah, slat see
Cooper and Camera Smith.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Billy Slater or didn't play. I actually played for Australia
with Billy Slater in twenty seven but he didn't play
twenty sixteen. Yeah, Darius Boyd was the fullback but Cooper,
Cronk and Cavin Smith were playing. Yeah, I was. I
played one game against Scotland that tour as I was
started right the whole time?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Really was that?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Like, because you've you've played with a lot of obviously
first coming too, first game, you're playing with Brett Stewart,
all these players. I imagine you would have admired the
Big Three's work for a long time as a manly player.
What was your first interaction like with those boys?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Oh yeah, funny story, right, So we're in I caught
in late right, Oh yeah, to the camp now in Perth.
I played in Perth, so I got there for game
day and then I had a test in Perth. Then
they'll go to England. So Josh Parley got injured. I
went in there. We went out that night and I
lost everyone. Right, I didn't really know anyone. I felt

(48:32):
out of my depth, right, and like I was just
like very awkward. I'm like, I'm Danny right as in
like I sort of went back to the hotel as
I do you know back door.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
One of the greatest smoke bombers of all depth.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I'm a great smoke woman, but this time I just
didn't feel anyway. I walked back and sitting in the
four hour mou'm and Inger, Cameron Smith, Matt Scott, Sam
Thurday and Craig Kaderick from the Night Right, and I
was just going home to go to bed, right and
never going to sit down here Jake, and they go,
do you like red wine? I hate red wine? I

(49:06):
hate red wine? I said, I love it right, red wine. Anyway,
They drank red wine the whole night. They just played
a test, right, I'm sitting there, I'm getting that, like
just pretending I liked it. I started liking it by
the end. My cat reckons by five point thirty. Whenever
my teeth are all red, I've never been so hung

(49:29):
over the next day. And I mean me and cat.
Every time I see a cat up at Newcastle, we
laugh about that.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Stories red wines. I always say, red wine is my
favorite drunk but you get so hungover on it, like.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I've never been. So that was the first time I've
ever had it. And obviously I was trying to keep
up with the big boys, you know what I mean.
And I was done.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
A lot of people don't realize this about Smitty but
Smith because he doesn't give that image across. But like
Smitty can drink like after Winds in Melbourne, he would
just sit on a case and still in his jersey.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Change a It's great.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, he's of the he doesn't never seem drunk. He's
just like consistent, but he's he's keeping up with you.
It's like he's something blow.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
The way they do the sheds is very impressive, you know.
And I had something like I didn't play in these games.
As I said, I played one game, AGA's Got I
remember a Gamingainst England. The dressing room. We're in the
dressing rooms after for that long. The only reason we
left was because the bus driver had to take us
home because his twelve hour gap from when he took
us to the game. He had to he had to
clock off by twelve hours although it's illegal, so he

(50:28):
had to take us back yeah, you know what I mean,
we've been in the sheds for that long. Would have
been five hours after the game.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
That old school mentality that those boys had of like
the sheds is everybody has to stay in the sheds
afterwards and have a beer, like you don't. You probably
don't get that as much in the modern group. Now
everyone kind of go and a lot of boys don't
really drink these days, so a lot of boys kind
of in their shower they get out, But there is
nothing better than after a win sitting in there and
just that was.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Some of the best memories, even with Woodsy because Woodsy
was on that tour he was We talk about that
still to this day, like some of how.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Fun it was, took about those places you can drink.
Malmaninger like we were well, Trisha and I were stating
at the Q Hotel right in the middle of the
city and why not we get went in there and
we go to the bar to have a drink, and
this young blope beyond the bar goes, oh, Maddie. We
had a couple of colleagues in last night. We had
Melmaninger justin Hodges and goody Tellers soing, oh, how that

(51:22):
guy he goes, oh, mate, mate, Malmaninger was like, you know,
he said, because you know, we keep gauge of how
much drinking you got to these days with responsible service alcohol.
He said to a manager and said, the biople like
that Malmaninger, He's had like twenty two schooners. And the
manager look over horrified and goes, well, how does he look,

(51:42):
and the i'mlo he looks fine. He goes, We'll just
keep serving him.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, rugby league, rugby league. Some people can't. And we
spoke about that off Mike, about some players in a
local area who can't hold their piss, keep that off.
That off my croaks is all time to have a
view with.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And Bradley Parker, Oh, honestly, I don't think he's excited.
I get excited because he doesn't play anymore. To go
for coffee with him right there, you go for a
drinking it's the best ever.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
He's such a good he's he is someone who's just
so funny, like naturally just to look at his mannerisms.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
But then he's funny as well.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
And when he starts drinking and he's say, he's big,
he's big beak, he's big snobs. He starts getting around. Fuck,
he's so funny.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
His Trmparras story is still one of the best.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Of you there.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
But remember the tea bass story where he's got where
there was a bad loss and they point to him
and he goes, you know, seven out of ten bloke,
seven out of ten straight, and Parks he was trying
to give him a rap by how consistent he is.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
He was trying to say, he lives years seven out
of ten bloke.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
He's seven out of ten bloke.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I love that. Yeah, for those people that haven't listened
to it. Basically, Park's had a great game out there,
one of the other consistent ones out there, and to
make an example to the rest of the group on
being consistent. What you do off the field consistency wise
translates on the field. They said, look at this bloke
over here, Brad Parker. Okay, he's a seven out of
ten strength, seven out of ten speed, seven out of

(53:10):
ten bloke. And then he goes out there and he
has a seven out of ten performance.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's what I know.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm going to get out of Parks every week. The
message it was, actually it's a great message to face.
It's it's just everyone all everyone heard, apparently was just
seven out of ten.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Block.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Hey guys, it's okay to be average. Look at him.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Look at how he looks. He's seven out of ten.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
What do you think, Jake, going forward in the future,
do you suit would you like to have a cracket coaching?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Look? I have days where I'm like, obviously, as we know,
we know our passionate for me, and I have days
where I'm like, yeah, I'd love to do that. I'd
love to try and leave this club and that sort
of thing, right, But then I have days where just
what we're talking about before, where it's all a bit
march and it's like I need a different half, you
know what I mean. So I'm a bit unsure, you know,
is it comes to the sort of end of my career.

(53:57):
But I obviously know this club like they've been good
to me. I know they look half.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Mean Jacob, have you have you ever have you ever
considered or have you ever filled an offer from another club?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Like there's been interest, but we've never, like I've got
to give credit to Paul, Paul Sarton, he's our manager, right,
We've never He's never really pushed. Yeah, he's even when
we're young, right, So sorry, when I was young, when
Desert first gone to Bulldogs, we actually got like an
offer to go to the Bulldogs, right, and it was
like it was good, right, but he said, mainly this

(54:32):
is your home, like it was a lot let like
state mainly, and it's we've always he's always done that.
We've always done our contracts over a year out, so
there's never we've never had to go to the market,
you know what I mean. Like he's always done it
very ethically or whatever, and I like that, you know
what I mean. And we're obviously lucky that they wanted
us at that point too, you know what I mean,
So like that makes it easier. But no, to answer

(54:56):
your question, no, we haven't really like we've never really
had to have.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
A young player try to get Newcastle once. So I
remember you were on the cusp of first Go you
had a bad ankle injury.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, I played one game at that stay.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yeah, it had a bad ankle and there was a
lot of depths in the forwards. And we going to
your monovar one day and said you were like, oh yeah,
and I tried to take advantage of getting a Newcastle
and you sort of put you and oh yeah, in
your mind you go, no fucking way about.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I remember I seen you at that time at the
I was picking up Killer and Steve Matdoye from the cooloid.
The budhit there had me broken leave that.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Right, that's right sort of, So run through what kind
of state was Killer and Stevie maddow in and then
what kind of state was Dad in? Whether they had
like well hydrated.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Well hydrated? I was picking them up.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
So were they back in the day with those boys
ring to give them a lift or something.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I was good mate to be Killer, I picked them up.
I was. I didn't used to drink much. I was
when I first sort of was young. I just I
don't know. I'm just very focused on it's this.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Area where you're an alcove.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yeah well yeah, sorry, I'm still very focusing on you are.
But yeah, so I was always the driver.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, we because we've given when Turbo come on the potty,
we are we made the Turbo rounds famous where you
know we've referred to him before. Where because when we're
at Melbourne used to call it Turbo rounds because Turbo
bought a round of thirty sodas for us in Bali
one year for all the boys when we're having a
mad Monday in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
He's very very generous.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
But I'll give you a wrap here're They could be
equally called Gerbo rounds as well, because.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I'm going to give it a time. I don't think
I'm sorry I have. I've got two. They're both mainly fullbacks.
Brett Stewart one of the most generous people I've ever seen.
When you're drinking, he literally, I swear when I was
young he would have shouted a whole team drink from
time to life, you know what I mean. He's so
generous to this day and Tom Tom, I think this
is merely number one tradition. It must be.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Brett's Stewel Back in the day. Honestly, he would shout everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
In the bar.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
One of the great probably Jesus Snake, snake.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Good and great, great player and you know, sorry his
brother Glenn. What's underrated about him is how tough he was.
Run just thinks about the skill, which is a very
skillful player, but he was very tough.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Yeah, the skill over shadowed the toughness.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
He was very tough. You just forget about it. And
Saint was tough to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And it was like Chess has had a long and
illustrious career. He was so lucky that side he went
into and you know the very fact that you know
he was chance to still to stay correct me if
I'm wrong. He's more comfortable running the football than passing
the ball. He's a runner in those days. And when
he first come into Gray, you'd see him catch the ball,
throw it early to Glenn or he just take him

(57:29):
on simple role. But that's you know, those little trick
shots Glenn And what a.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Player that was a good Jesus was a good sad
killer on the right edge.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
What about him.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I've never seen a greater player in such an average body,
well even more than Cameron Smith.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
You're sad to Jake's sorry about.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
The average body is not a great player I love.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Do you know what's funny? When we were when we
were all together twenty twenty three playing so the three,
we used to do this test. It was like a
bench press test, remember that one where the swearing these tests.
So they put cables to the bench press and it'd
be like a percentage of your body weight on there
and they test your power like based on how quickly
you get up. The three worst in the club was

(58:15):
and it's just just three great blokes. It was myself,
it was DC and Jaki, and I was.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
At the bottom of the three. I couldn't even.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Beat those Jak come up with me. You keep beating.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
You're worse than the club kills me.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
But you're but you're straight, but but and everybody all
tested this at Manly. The one person you don't want
to wrestle in the wrestling room is you because those
big hands, those big mits of yours, when they get
around you.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Use I remember you.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I'm trying to remember who you got. You got one
of the might have been Parks. You remember that they
were doing wrestle and Parks was like notorious for Brad Parker.
If he was in a bad attitude, he just didn't
want to beat.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
He just lay on his back and let you lay
on him. But do not care, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
But you I think I think he did something to
you that day and you went and you partner yourself
with him, and he was going, Jake, don't, He's gone, Jake,
please don't. And you just had him there and were
like strangling him like a python and Brad typical parks.
He just had no fight.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
He was just there a jellyfish and it's like, all right,
you rest the rest.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Thanks Jakie, Jokie, you're a champion. Mate. Look mate, we've
as a family and and you know, we've admired the
way you hold yourself, the way you've played, and good
on your mate. There's still a lot of years for
you to come, a lot of tomorrow so hopefully you
get that premiership. Yeah, we're all going to die one day, okay, Yeah,

(59:45):
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