August 31, 2025 • 47 mins
Legendary broadcaster Ray Hadley joins the boys for stories of footy feuds, radio wars and wild moments. From nipple clamps to marathon commentary boxes, nothing is off-limits.
Ray opens up on clashes with Buzz, Bulldog, Gus and More.
Plus raw reflections on the Lindt Café tragedy, family battles & Cathy Freeman’s golden run.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the matter, daddy. You're not yourself at the moment,
you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit
I tear.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I could really pick my mood up. What did you
want to know?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'll do anything.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you really want to know? Yes, I want people
to hit subscribe. Hit that subscribe button. It's going to
really elevate my spirit.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If the people respect.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You as a man and as a as a medium
mogul in Australia, I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Will do it. Well, I hope so.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Right, this is a gathering of radio titans. Correct legend,
legend and I want to be what was that?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Where's Kyle?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
What you said? Legends? Tired? You're on s on Friday?
And get where are you?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm on kiss as well?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, he does extra Kyle now.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Lit, I don't know if you've done rat in a while,
but we like to get these mics right into their well.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Mate, normally, I've got engineers helping me out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He did that for forty three years.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Blaker was a big part of our podcast a couple
of years.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Gave do you know his nickname the one eye one
Eyron because I gave him that he was well, he's
still a big tall thing. But when he first started
working with us, or probably twenty years ago, as a
young play he looked like a one eye. He had
a set of ears on him and he was straight
up and straight down, and so he didn't he was
a good golfer. Two, he was a particularly good golfer.
He's a single figure marker, I think the one. Yeah, yeah,
(01:26):
I don't think he plays much anymore. He's got kids
and a wife to look after. So he's a good Yeah. Pickford,
he's a wonderful Yeah. Picked him as well. That's his mate, mate.
I want to give is a wrap too. I just
listened to the face to face that you and Matthew.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So you're doing a lot of the face to face
for Fox Sports for the final series.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, we're doing a series, Cooper, We're doing. We've done
Mick Croman. We've also done Cliffy and Beaver and then
your Dad and it's intentioned. I think that we do
Kevy and Alphi together, Kevy Waders obviously than your National.
I'm trying to get older Craig Bellamy to do it
as well, because given his success in Grand finals, that
(02:06):
would be a nice balance and maybe Wayne, you know,
but you know, people are harder to get towards the
end of the season. So we'll leave that to the
Fox Sports to sort out.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I have.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But yeah, we've got four in the can and hopefully
a couple to come.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Who's been your favorite so far?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Because I just listened to you and Matthew and listen here,
this is a great rap for you because I've heard
those stories every Saturday for the last fifteen years. The
dad told but it was I still had goosebumps listening
to it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, I had the hairs in the back of my
next ending up about a couple of the stories. And look,
your dad and I, you know, we've known each other
for a couple of decades, basically since he came to grade.
More than a couple of decades.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Third decade, right, yeah, for our third decade.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And he spent the life his life taking the piss
out of me as a serious broadcaster. And now I'm
not a serious broadcaster. Who cares. I had him and
your mother down at Gorst and Gorge when he had
nothing else to do on radio. When he retired and
went the Fox, I said, he's down there at Gorson
was watching for trucks and caravans blocking the gorge and
nearly everywhere I go. Now some idiot yells out any
(03:06):
trucks on the Golston Guards. Mate.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Get There's also a rumor Dad started about you that
you had, like you put something on your nipple.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Nipple rings. Your mom and dad came to my place
at Dural. I was living there by myself at the time.
It was very lonely in that six I had two
tennis court, two pools, six amound by myself. I sold
it eventually, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We had to masturbate every torle every day.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I did my best. You could do that at that age,
not anymore. Anyway, he goes, I don't know where he went,
on Fox or radio or somewhere. You know, he's a
multi media personality, and he had me living in a
dungeon with sex toys and you know those things, harnessed
things that you put people in and funny.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You nipple clamps, that's it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
So that caused me some consternation. I was at that
time a very serious commentator, you know, a high profile
talkcast who was getting yelled at from truck as in
nipple clams.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Garne Ale mate, Well, I remember there was a bit
of a few going on screen.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You were Matthew at the time. Was it when you
were at Triple M when you would kind of go at.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Each other way back and forward? Yeah? Yeah, because mate,
we look, we'd have a bit of fun. I'd have
a go Ray and Ray sort of fire back. He
gets there through the show. I might be doing it
or something and he'd be talking. I'd send a message
through so it sounding great today, Ray, maybe speak up
a little bit and he read made.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I've got this.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I've got this bloke right. And it's funny how people
take it serious. Mate, listen, just going to give your
heads up. Hadley gave it to the other day. Oh
it is.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It is funny reflecting back on it now, because I
mean I did a serious program, but for thirty five
years I did the Continuous Care Team, which was just
a bistake. The whole thing was a bit steak. You know.
We deal with Chippy the Lake, Peter Frilling Go and
the late Bob Fulton and Blocker and a whole host
of other people. We do some bizarre things and people
would think it was serious, and I think that translated
(05:07):
into the Talk Venture that I eventually got into twenty
three years ago. And so you know, some of the
stuff I did was quite serious. But I can assure
you the stuff I did about your father was just
me taking the piss and having a bit of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was funny. We first metature that we did an
ad together, the Gary Harley Organize Yourself. My brother Andrew.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
We're on a roof. We're not a roof and Harley,
he said, listen, get up here. I'll give you a thousand.
I said, what am I going to do? He said,
TV commercial for one of my sponsors. So I get
up there. They put me on a roof with your father.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
With the two least handy people in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Harley said, Look, he said, if he can give Maitland
Toyota wrap, you can do that as well. Could I
drive a car from Maitland Toadda anyway, So that was
the first encounter with your dad. I don't know that
Harley ever.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Gave the manywait Maitland. The one rate was as far
as working relationship, because when I first come into first grade,
to you, we lost the right. You lost the rights
to call the game and interview people within the stadium.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, we had them. We actually lost the rights after
the Grand Final in nineteen ninety nine, right, so what happened.
We have a Super League war and I was on
the side of the ar L. So when the NRL
came together, Malcolm Nate, who was a good blake, he
was the chairman from News Limited, and I'd said some
things about some clubs who were part of the ar L,
(06:40):
you know, about salary caps or whatever it was at
the time. So when it came to have the rights,
singer at two GB said, I'll give you a million
dollars to have exclusive rights. We call everything. The ABC
can still partake, but we call everything. So we lost
the rights at the end of the year two thousand,
I'm sorry, at the end of nineteen ninety nine into
(07:01):
two thousand. So I went to the management and I
went there obviously Beozo and Chippy and said, look, we
haven't got the rights. What do you want to do.
And I said, oh, well, we'll bat on if they
want to beat on. So I went to John Condy,
the the company and he's a good blake. John still
batting about and I said, look, we can still do
a rugby league program. And I said, well, we'll make
it fun, you know, we'll just take the piss out
(07:23):
of everybody. And he said, but people want to hear scores.
I said, well, they have people in hot air balloons
over the tile grounds, and we'll have you know, people
phoning in with scores. So Singer then injuncted us on
two counts. You wouldn't know. He's a good mate of mine.
But he injuncted me on calling it the continuous call team.
So we became the talking league team because we weren't
continuously calling rugby league. And then he injuncted us on
(07:44):
getting scores from inside the ground, so we were sort
of hamstrung. And so I'd get an open line. Callers
ring in say good ray air gun. Yeah, great day
of paramatter. I said, what's the weather like, mate, Yeah, sonny,
I said, you're nothing about football. Yeah, paramatter are leading
mainly ten nil at halftime. Oh good idea mate, thanks
very much. So we had punners doing it, and so
the first ratings came out and Singer had spent all
(08:07):
this money. He'd taken Gibbs and Browman off me to
go over there, and he had John Harker calling football.
He had Mark Warren calling football. He had Peter Wilkman's
calling football. He's calling every game. He was calling Thursday,
Friday games on Saturday Sunday, and we weren't calling any games.
The survey comes out, we win, so I said, oh,
that's going to be a bit of a fluke. So
(08:28):
we win again. So we win eight surveys consecutively, four
in two thousand and four in two thousand and one.
So I couldn't quite believe it, and Bose couldn't believe it,
and Chip he couldn't believe it that we won the
ratings despite not calling the football. So that sort of
started the path of the continuous call team just being
and the Robertson brothers who write songs for me and
(08:49):
still do. They were part of the program and they
write songs and take parodies and famous songs and turn
them into you know, parodies about footballers and things that,
and so that went on for two years, and then
I think the NRL got a bit nervous that they'd
given the rights to Singo and we were still winning
the ratings, and so they decided that maybe they'd put
(09:12):
them up for grabs. But in the meantime, I got
the sack after nine and is it t ui? A
Blake called Tony Bell cor We knew his office. He
was the CEO of Southern Cross. They bought it off
broadcast investments off for the Lamb and Condie families. And
I'd been filling in for Laws since nineteen ninety two,
fourteen weeks a year. Laws used to take a lot
of time off. And he said to me, what do
(09:35):
you want to do. Your contract's up in October October
two thousand and one, and I said, well, I'd like
to stay if I can. He said, yeah, You've done
well of this continuous call team stuff or talking league,
what do you call it. He was from Melbourne to
Blake and he said something I've never forgotten. He denies it,
but it's true. There's only two in the room, me
and him, and I know what he said. He said,
I regard you as a competent sports commentator, but you're
(09:55):
not a talk case. And I was getting three hundred
thousand a year at the time, and I I said,
well mate, He said, I'm going to cut your back.
You're not going to do Laws anymore. You're going to
get one hundred and seventy five. And I said, I said,
I'm not signing for that. I said, I'm gonna coming backwards.
So I rang Singer he'd been after me, and I said, mate,
we need to have a Yarna might want to come
across there and call football. And he said, yeah, I
(10:17):
heard you just got the sack at tow you we
so come over and see me. So I wasn't in
a very strong position, but I went and saw him.
He wrote stuff he's always does on a scrap of
paper on the back of his hand and said, there's
your contract. So I took it up to made of Mind.
Alan Sullivan has Senior Council Queen's Council, just up from
where we signed the contract in Macquarie Street, and Alan
said that's not worth the paper shitting and he said,
(10:37):
come on, I'll go back down and do it formally.
So he came back and we signed and that was
to do the football. So the first thing I did
was ring Chippy, Beazo and Blocker and said, well you
carry them over, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But I remember those like Coops said that you couldn't
when you lost the rights. You also couldn't interview people
within the stadium once once you're outside the stadium. It
was an interview. So what tanum of gay side on
tum a.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Gay and one dog, one bone ray and a boss
can lend me fifty and tell me hunchback brother straight
and se himself out. That was his favorite one. Hey, listen,
you just reminded me of something and I made of mine.
Told me yesterday about Magoo. We're down at Woollongong, right
and he say, he called me boss, a boss. Come
to the sideline. This is before the game. I said,
what's wrong? We go? He said, I tell you the
(11:21):
story about the parachutist and the gas barbecue. I said no,
He said, well, he said a blake jumped out of
a plane above Woollongong not long ago, and he's coming down.
He's pulling the cord. Nothing's working, and he sees a
blake coming up from the ground the other direction. He
says to the blake, do you know anything about parachutes?
And the blake says no, do you know anything about
gas barbecues?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He was a classic. I remember walking semi final, going
on the foot literally coming back from warm up semi
final and Magoo's there and Magoo goes a mad. He
got a second and got one for you joke. I said,
we're about to play semi final, making mcgooie get you
after a game listen made he can do me solid
and he'd take you to it like a secret room.
(12:05):
It have burped out and that's where you do the
interview and you pretend to be outide side around.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
He's down the South cast now. Well, he was in
Hollywood start line I originally and we pinched him when
they went to two KY from two GB and Zorba's
a made of mine now but now in retirement up
on the Central case, not far from me. But he
cracked a great line about me in eighty seven we're
getting the lap Ray price with McKay commentator and he
(12:34):
came up with a great saying. Ray One day we're
at North Sidney Oval and he went to say something
and Chip he said what he was going to say,
and he said, you've stolen my line with a feather.
I haven't here. I am thirty years later still trying
to figure out what he's got anyway, But so Magoo
(12:54):
was a great character and when we got him, he
was just a beauty and all the sayings he had
he used to get to the dogs that went with
Park every Saturday night because he was a grand reporter.
You know, he used to cover the dogs for the
Daily Mirror or you know whoever back the Sun I
originally and that was his favorite line. We get to
about ten to six, he say, hey, boss, you've got
one hundred and two hunchback brother straight and himself. I
(13:17):
mean he had to give him a hundred because of
a great one. I didn't say it every week, magoo.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He said always. I remember once I was Trician and
he's walked past on. This is my partner trition, I said,
a true marking around, be careful, he's real pantsman, right, goes, oh,
come on, Maddie, you know me mate, one dog, one barone.
It's true, Like because how was John Brennan hopped in
(13:41):
your cab? That what the origin?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Right? So I was an auctioneer for a company called
pittsund And Badgery, and I wanted to be a race caller.
So I quit the auctioneering and strang enough, there weren't
many jobs for race callers in the Sydney Morning here,
all classified, so I applied for a few jobs. In fact,
what I did I hadn't old eh old and I
got in it and I thought, I'll go to country
(14:05):
radio and see if I'm going to start with no experience.
So I drove up the cast. I went a two
g A Gosford two HD Newcastle. They gave me an
interview two r E Tai two km KEMC two cs
costs but two m Lismore Radio twenty seven of tweed Heeads.
And then I came Inland. I went to Gyra in
Veril two m Z. Then I went to Armadale two
(14:26):
AD two TM ten Worth two mg Mudgie two Dudbo
two l t Lyft go back to Sydney and didn't
get a job.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Better say you know them. You don't have to grudguate.
That's great.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So anyway, oh well, you know I was only a
mug and you didn't have any experience.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And are you actually are you just knocking on the
door trying.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I just got to the studio and I'm meeting the
program the rector and is Mike Cast said I can
call football and call razors. Give me a start. They said, yeah,
good luck, see you lad. Because most people came to
a country radio through the Max Rolly school of announcing,
he was an old broadcast. I'm actually had a school
for broadcasters and plenty of the great broadcaster went to
Max Role was a bit of a genius when teaching
people how to enunciate and pronunciate and all the rest
(15:04):
of it. So anyway, I had no luck. So I
came back and my father had passed away nine and
seventy five. By the ars haad of me pants. I
was living with my mum at dully Chill. She said,
I told you, Raymond, it was stupid to quit auctioneering.
What are you going to do? So I made of
mine said I got a cab. It was actually Paul
Meya's father, John Niwow, and he had a cab Cumberland Cabs.
(15:26):
He said, drive the cab. So I got a cab license.
And I was knocking about for a fair while and
I couldn't get a start. Then I got a job
at Appendogs funny story about appen Dogs. The old blake
that ran it was a real Stern, old bastard called
Jock McDonald, lovely fellow at Stern. Anyway, I'd work Friday night,
then drive the cab out there to call the first
race at twelve forty five fifteen races used to get
(15:48):
thirty six dollars for calling fifteen racers That appened ow
class Campbelltown. So after about six months I went to
him and I said, mister McDonald, yes, son, I said,
is there any chance of a pay rise? He said,
how much we pay you? I said thirty six fifty? He
said what do you want? I said fifty dollars. He
said fifty dollars. He said, well, I'll tell you I
can save some money. Stop getting the cab of the
track every day. I said, I'm not brying, fucking I'm not,
(16:10):
I'm driving it. He said, you're what I said, I
drive it. I work all Friday night, then drive it
out of here. And he said, well, he said, okay,
you know the fifty dollars he was. He was good anyway.
So one Tuesday night, John Mayores rang Men said, look,
the night driver hasn't turned up. Do you want the cab?
And I said, you can't get it. Quit on Tuesday nights.
Johnn He said, well, don't worry out of paying. You'd
(16:32):
pay fifty or sixty bucks to the cab of the pain.
He said, just put gas lpage in it and do
your best. So I got my cab and went into
town from Paramatta, got a fair to North Sydney. I
was sitting on North Sydney Rank. There used to be
a hamburger joint there that all the cabins would go
to to have a cap of coffee or a cup
of tea and a hamburger. So I sat there up
I stay. A call came through Miller McLaren the North
(16:55):
Ride and I said, yeah, point card North Sydney Rank,
and I knew it was to your week. So I
get up there and a blake called Mark Collier, who's
still a great mate. He's the news director. He's fully
in for a black called John Pearce, the late John
piss six to nine. He was crooked, so marked it
the job and I picked him up at ten past
nine and off we go. And wasn't a young blake.
(17:15):
We're going up the Ebbing highways and ten year later
or whatever it's called. And he says, so you unia,
I said, no, mate, No, I'm a race caller. He
said you're a fucking race caller. I said yeah. He
said you can't be a very good one if you're
driving a cab on a Tuesday night. And I said
you're probably right. So he then he then says what
do you want to do? And I said, I want
(17:35):
to get into radio. And he said, well, i'm the
news director at to UI is you probably know? Said,
don't know who you are. He said, give me your number,
So I gave you mum's number five six nine two
three oh five. Isn't it funny you remember now?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Is that the home line?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That's mum's homeline at dull a Chune five six nine
four seven. Yeah. Anyway, so about two months later, Mum
says to me, a man called mister Collie is looking
for you, so I'll bring him back and go in
and see him. He said, you're still driving the cap
I said, yeah, still calling the dogs. I said, I've graduated.
What are you doing? I said, appened below an hour?
He said, oh geez, are climbing up the run. So
(18:11):
he said, we need a traffic reporter for Gary our callahan.
This is about nineteen eighty and I said, yeah, I
can do that. He said, you've been the choppy before, please,
of course I have. I hadn't seen one, let it
be in one. So up I go on the helicopter
and I did that for a couple of years got
a rapport with Gary. Then Dez Hoist said someone said
Dez News help with the races, and they said, oh,
(18:32):
that young buck calls races. So I ended up with
Dez and then John Tap came on board and he
was my greatest mentor. He let me call races in
nineteen eighty four that was my first race call on
to y Wik. And then in eighty six Rex Muss
have called the football on radio Wow Yeah. He come
from Channel seven and Cold Pierce and Frank Hyde were
(18:55):
both by this time. Frank had come from twosm the
be a expert commentator on two You Week and Rex
call the football in a TV style on radio. Kenny
he used to smoke a pipe too, Sterling while he
was calling Yeah, and he couldn't get that rapid fire
you had. You know, you're doing radio. It's the ball
on the outside, Kenny, Sterling, come back on the inside,
(19:16):
the grave twenty five meters out and like all that stuff.
And Rex of he's calling it like it was a
TV call. So I didn't work too well for him.
So in eighty seven Rabs had got the punt from
Channel ten because he wouldn't go to Los Angeles on
a plane to do the Olympics. Smart move Rabs. He's
a fucking idiot, he's a made of mind, but what
(19:37):
a fuck with anyway, So they offered the job at
t UI to Hollywood AND's Orbit to come from gb
They said no, they were going flying over there, then
the Rabs. He said no. Then to Jeff Pretter who
was calling on two k Y, then to John McCoy
was in Brisbane, then to a black called Kevin Seymour
who was calling a bit of football, and they all
said no because Hollywood and Orbit were dominating. And then
(19:59):
finally Hollier again said to Breno, who would come across
from two SM about three years earlier? I said, what
about Hadley? And I'd called a couple of games when
Cole two years early was in New Zealand calling test matches,
and they said, yeah, he can call football, so but
he calls racers. He sounds like a race caller. So
Brene I said, well, let's go with him. So they
rang me up and said you want to call the
(20:20):
football in eighty seven and I was getting about nineteen
five hundred dollars a year, and I said, Breno well, yeah,
we'll talk about it. Yeah, I want to be a
race caller. So I rang John Tap who was my
confidant and mentor, and I said, they want me to
call football mate And he said, well, listen to tell
you the truth. He said, we're just about in our
last league. Sky channel hadn't been invented. He said, there's
(20:41):
two race callers and it said me and a Craig.
He said, there's not room for another one. You're probably
not going to get a start. He said, but go
back and see much money they want to give you.
So I went back and I said to Bren what
sort of cash are we talking about? He said sixty K?
So I ring Tap me back and I said, they
want to give me sixty k. He said, fuck that,
I'll do it, so he said take the job. So
(21:02):
I took the job. We got bashed up by Hollywood
and Zorber in eighty seven and eighty eight. Zorba back
to him. He made a great comment about me knowing
knew who it was. I was a race caller becoming
a rugby league caller. He said, Ray Hadley is the
only good robber bank without a mask on, and they
wouldn't know the fuck are we is?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Did you know much about rugby league.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
That I've been a great I'd love the game. Yeah,
I'd sort of vascillator between Paramatter and Balmain because I
came from that sort of area when we moved from
the country. And yeah, ken Thorne it was my hero.
I just loved Ken Thornett back in the sixties, and
I loved Dick. I loved Bobo Riley later on. I
still mates with him. He's going to in fact, he's
buying an apartment next door to me, bobbing and that's
(21:42):
going to work out for.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Him ort move.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But anyway, so we got lapped eighty seven eighty eight,
and in fact then eighty eight they went again to
Hollywood and Zorba and then Price he left to go
back and played for Wakefield Trinity. He resurrected his career
in England and so we you know, then Peter Felling
Gos helped me, and then Bose came on board and
gave me some credibility because I had none as a
rugby league person, and by nineteen eighty nine ninety ninety
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we won the ratings.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And how did you and Boso become friends?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Well, when when he got beaten in the eighties by
Jack I suppose of the eighty three Grand or maybe
whether they were in eighty one, eighty two, eighty three three.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Grand final outsides. Yeah, mainly Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, Bozo was the coach and Jack had beaten him.
And there's this great photo that Bozo had with me
with a droopy mustache in the background with a microphone
and Bese, I've still got it home, and Beose did
it up for me and said, hey, Jack, if we
keep talking this fuck with behind it probably won't talk
to us, so let's keep talking and something like that,
and Beose gave it to me. Is a bit of
(22:47):
a joke. And then we became very close. And then
I went on kangaroo tours that he was the coaching
and he became Peter Flingos died in two thousand and four.
He was my best best mate. And then Bese and
I went through the grief of losing Peter together and
we became closer and closer and closer. He became involved
with my family, I became involved in his family, and
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I mean I couldn't compete with him intellectually about rugby league.
He was the most incredibly knowledgeable person I've ever met.
But we just became mates, and until he's untimely death,
of course we were still mates. He came to my
wedding when we married safe. He shouldn't have been there.
He is crook. And I remember taking him back to
the car with end to put him in the car,
and he just he wasn't an emotional sort of blake.
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Wasn't a blake to hug people. He shake your hand
and do a limp wristed shake and take the mickey.
But he hugged me really tight, and he called me Horsey.
That was all he ever caught me. He said, horse,
we won't see each other again. And I said, no, no,
I'll come then and see He said, no, no, you
won't come and see me. This is it. I'll see
you later. And I spoke with Zorba at his funeral.
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And I lost my dad in seventy five, I lost
Peter in two thousand and four, and I lost Bozo
more recently. And those are the three most important men
in my life.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Those when you know, having Chippy, having Boo like you
know Boso, how integral was he in giving you and
that show like credibility.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Look, any success I had was traced back to him.
When you had someone and the original mortal on your program.
We had Jack Gibson there as well. We had Wayne
Pierce on the program, Lourie Daily. We're all members of
the continuous care team, the late Peter Jackson. But Bozo
gave me credibility by treating me as an equal. Okay,
so I never played first grade rugby league. I never could.
(24:43):
I was a broadcaster, That's what I was, and I'd
like to think I was a competent rugby league broadcaster.
I did thirty four Grand Finals, ninety nine State of Origins,
and thousands of games. But the credibility that Bob Fulton
brought to me by treating me as an equal on
air was really amount to my success. For someone like
Bob Fulton to anoint you as someone that can be
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listened to made all the difference to my career. I'll
never ever forget the impact that he had on my career.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How much fun was a continuous call?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It was a lot of fun. And to let you know,
Hollywood and Disorba, so Peter Peters and gree Hartley, they
were that they were like the first team to come
along and really provide this great entertainment show that they're
the originals, and then new blokes well copy the form
a little bit similar formula.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, Coopy, what used to happen, say, when Frank was
calling the football and Tiger Black on two k Y
and Cole Piers they come on a ten to three
on a Saturday and Sunday and call the football and
then be off at.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Five seeing Danny Boy and this.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Frank seeing any boy and go am. And what Hollywood
and Zorba did with Richard Fisk, who was their producer
of Great Old Maid of Mine is still battling around.
They came on at midday and started and he'd had
his brother Tony Peter's doing it of using the dressing
rooms and all that sort of stuff. And Tanney was
a great beat up merchant and I got a big
story down his orb. Someone's got a car back on
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their ass, you know. And so they brought theater to it.
And even now Peter is a good mate of mine,
and he'll say to me, you know, you'd be nothing
without me, he said, because we said there And they
created this mystique about rugby league in the early eighties,
you know, through through to the period when they didn't dominate.
They made a mistake. They went from to Jibi to
(26:31):
k Why and they shouldn't have done it, you know,
And that's how we eventually beat them when they went
to k Why. But so we'd come on at midday
and you do you know, the Super League War changed
it because there was that much drama. Cooper, your dad
lived through it. I lived through it. Now everyone was
fighting with each other mates, someone were fighting with each other.
Gibbs used to fight with Chippy. Chippy had fight with Gibbs.
(26:54):
Bezo would fight with Chippy because bezon Arilla line. And
it became so I said one day, I said, listen,
all this bullshit's got to stop. Okay, we can't keep
fighting with each other. No one gives a flying fuck
because it's not fun anymore. We've got to make it
fun again. So I spoke to the Robertson brothers who
(27:16):
were mates of mine, and said, I need some Rugby
League parodies. And one of the Robinson brothers, Benny's a
great Rugby League fan, so I didn't have to explain
to him what I needed, you know, and hed do
all these parodies, so we'd start having fun. And so
we'd come on at twelve for about fifteen minutes and
talk about the game the night before, and then chaos, chaos, yeah,
just nothing to do with rugby and chip it off
(27:36):
and say what's this gut there with rugby league? Say fuck, oh,
let's get into it, and we'd have fun and we'd
and I honestly would sit there both that to you,
and later at two GB, I would just whip myself laughing.
And I was a pedel operator as well as controlling
the show. I was in the chair, and so I
had jobs to do, and we'd have the one eye
and other young Blake's pressing the buttons for ads next
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door in the joining studio. But sometimes you just couldn't
stop laughing, you know. And then and then the big
Man rejoined the team, and he's one of the funniest
men I've ever worked with, that funny, and you know,
sometimes it's funny when he doesn't mean to be funny.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're the funniest.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
They like it there. And so all of a sudden
it took on this, you know, and I still get
people now, and the continuous call team still exists. But
not with me as part of it anymore. But I'd
get people coming up to me and say, and this
is the longevity part of it that your father's referring to.
So I'll get people that came up to me previously
and said, well, I started listening with my dad, and
now I'll listen with my son. Because we started effectively
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in eighty seven, but we got into it in about
nineteen eighty nine, ninety ninety, and then particularly when Super
League hit, and then we had to find another thing
to do because you couldn't just talk about the Super
League all the time because it was boring his bat shit.
And it was two media heavyweights that was News Limited
against Kerry Packet's organization trying to get control for either
Optors or Fox, you know. In the end, and then
(28:54):
the first court case under James Birchett delivered a verdict
to the aarl like one hundred nil, and then I
appeal and went to the News Limited organization one hundred nil,
you know. And so then when I said, look, the
war's over, let's get on with it. Ah, you're a
trade of the cause. Well, I can say with some
confidence I was one of the very few people along
with Chippy not to make a quid out of the
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Super League War. Everyone else would getting money stypends from
either the Aarl Optus or Fox or News. You know.
People were buying farms on the money they got. And
I remember Blocker, who'd retired previously to it today, a
front rower who wouldn't stand in his boots got about
six hundred thousand dollars and block is it? What abouther?
There's fucking idiots six hundred thousand twice the player he
(29:37):
was that he was right, you know, And so the
game needed to grow out of that. And fortunately the
people I did battle with, including Gallop and Ensley and
the whole range of them, they're great mates of mine, now,
you know. And let me say this to you, Cooper,
that's an old black. I'm seventy one next month. If
it happened all over again, I do it entirely differently
because at the end of the day, I remember after
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the big battle on the footage show where I served
it up the ReBs where he said Alan Lang is
going to be a superstar in Beijing, and I said, well,
that's all bullshit. You know, they're not going to start
playing rugby league there and it's all about money. John
and Kerry Packer was in the outer area and James
came in and shook my hand and said, thanks mate,
he'd done a great job. So when they got back together,
(30:22):
Channel Line started doing this super League. They got the
rights to super League, so they were televising AARL and
Super League and then someone from the combined NRL, maybe ReBs.
I don't know, I don't care, change my life, changed
my career. Said you can't have badly on the footy show.
So the blaker come and shook my hand and said
you'd done a great job. Said you're not back next year,
(30:42):
You're gone, And so I thought, what was this all about?
And to that point about whether it's ReBs or whether
it's someone else. When we lost the rights in two thousand,
I owed them a great ditta gratitude. I went from
earning three hundred thousand earning three million. I mean, so
you can't be that with people who do things for
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other reasons when it benefits you. And it did benefit
me greatly because I had a broadcasting There were twenty
five years.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
On that old you and we know how TV works.
You always have from the background, you know, let's get
ray on right. What ray is going to do? Rail Really,
he'll say the things others won't be going to say.
He'll take it right up to rubs and john Z
Chris John's and made it really good.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Raye.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Listen tonight, mate, Let's not let these blokes get away
with this blah blah blah blah blah. How do you
like before the show? Is that how it was played out?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, of course it was. I mean, it wasn't pre conceived,
but they just let me off the leash. And I
was a young, impetuous blake, not as smart as I
am now, thankfully, because as you get older, you get smarter.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
We do, I'm sure that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
So I was an impetuous blake and I you know,
and don't forget, we had an arl crowd. So every
time I go, yeah, get out of down, both go yeah,
little beauty. And there are other people on the panel
getting splinters in their arts from not doing that. They
were smarter than me, and so I was used to
a certain extent. But you know, I was a willing participant.
I wasn't Stockholm syndrome. I wasn't punished into doing and
(32:06):
I just did it because I thought it was right.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So remind me the two sides. Reeves was on the
Superlice side, and who was the face of the A
R L side?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, Ken Arthurs and Jim Quayle. Yeah, okay, okay, two
great men. I still see. He's retired up there at
Main Beach and John Quayle is just a champion. He's
in semi retirement up in the heart of Valley. I
spoke to him recently and just look fantastic loyal men.
And you know Guss was part of the deal along
(32:35):
with Bozo. There's a famous story about Steve Gillis now
and I claimed, weird Chimes, Well, I claim, I don't
know if he tell you this story, but he's in
the corridors of the Aril and Philip Street, right and
he's covering it for the Daily Telegraph. And so the
lawyers had said to Beozo and Gus, they've got to
have representation a manager, not just a lawyer. They've got
(32:56):
have a manager. So Bezo walked out and said, Chimes,
come here, said how much you getting paid to the Telegraph.
He said, good, you land double, come in here. You're
a manager.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah wow.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
So and so if I think Keith Blackett was his
first place.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Batti Blake up and said, matter, I think I could
be the next walle E Lewis.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, that's Keith Blackett. So Chimes became and now here
we are only forty years later. Chimes are still a manager.
And he got Bezo and Gus and the rest of them.
Think about it because he was and his Natee pad
out riding for the Daily Telegraph.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Incredible. So to give an ideal, Ragious said, there, and
I remember listening to your radio showed during the Super
League War, and I remember it got to the point
I remember that you said, listen, we're singing of this.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
All we're doing is.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Get people ringing up and you're bagging this or bagging that. Mate,
we're brushing it super League aarl. It's pre his own
because what actually happened at the time the game in
early in ninety five, we're a first hit for that
first three or four months the game become the game's
almost become irrelevant. Yeah, everything everything that was covered around
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the game was RL or Super League and the war
that was going on. And you are to be like
if Ray halfway they said, oh, by the way, you
know dogs areluding sixty and twelve people we didn't get.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Fuck. Yeah, that's exactly right. I think the crucial point
was at marathon. What you wouldn't remember this, but when
we first and Gary Harley had a problem with this,
when we first started broadcasting up there after eighty eight,
the broadcast boxes on top of the old grandstand on
the western side.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I remember just having to get up there. Yeah, and
so what had happened.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Harley was probably a bit lighter than he is now,
but he was still you know, at a few kges
hundred and sixty, Yeah, something like that. My love Gazer,
I can't bad gas. He's one of my best mates.
But anyway, what there was a VIP box right, and
there was no toilet up there when we started, no toilet,
so they drop a ladder down the VIP box and
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all the broadcasters to go up at midday and they'd
pull the ladder up. Yeah, you know, the ladder was
on the roof. Yeap. He was stuck up there. So
they were stuck up there. He had to piss on
against a.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Wall so that the commentry boxes, because I helped build
the commentry boxes, holds the groundsman they had to carry
all that.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, did you get a fuck a good job?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was wondering, didn't come a complete literally tragedy.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Where were the toilets?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They were attached to the roof of Mason, the old
stadium roof, so there was no way getting down they
You had to have to drop a ladder down from
the commentry boxes down to the crowd, walk down to
the crowd, go up room out the back and have
a squirt so for.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The crowd, like they'd be abusing you and what not.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No, No, they were very happy. They were having They
were all nerves in a corporate box and they're pissed
and we'd be climbing down the middle of them. But anyway,
there was a blue. The point I wanted to make,
so there's a blue on air between Gus on behalf
of the aar L and he was staunch and chippy
on behalf of usually because he had a wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He had to look after himself. Telegraph reporter.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, so anyway there was a blue and it was
really personal. So I shook my head and we went
or break. I said, well, that's it, I said, Gus
was working with us at the time. That's it. No
more what do you mean? I said, no more blowing
about the a R. Get finished. And Boze backed me
up and said, boys, it's boring, it really is boring.
(36:08):
And Bozo was an arl man, but he said it's boring.
Let's change tac and let's you know. And so I
said to Chippy and Gus, I said, shake hands and
let's get back into it. And gives. He used to
still froth at the mouth and you couldn't come in down.
He was like a little terrier with Chippy, you know,
and you're try and calm him down. I had to laugh.
He went on the seven thirty report and said I
was a bully when I had a little bit of
(36:29):
drama at radio, and I thought, Jesus, he's forgotten what
happened with him back in the day. But anyway, I digress.
So that was that was that day at marathon was
the end of it. That was the finish of it.
And by the way, they eventually put a Brasco in there,
but they put a curtain across if a cameraman or
someone from Channel nine or the A B C or
two GB or two UE wanted to go and have
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a squirt or something else.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
The curtain was thrown across the curtain.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
You draw the curtain across time.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I pull you out for one second, Bob Fulden, because
I met Boso when I was a junior at Manly,
and Bozo never struck me as like somebody who would
have been a real funny guy on radio.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Because he always seemed quite serious to me. Is that
my perception?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Tell the story where Bozo he's playing for the stuy
Ball of Manly. There was a certain tactic they were
using and the coach was denied and I don't know
why they did that. And then Bozo stay in the
back of the room and said, Cooper, why was the
team doing that? And you said, O, well, the coach
told us, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, okay, okay, Well I can understand as a young black,
you know, teenage.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I was seventeen.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah. Well there was two bezs. There's Footy Bezo and
fun bel right, And I was mainly involved with fun
Bezo because I couldn't speak to Beze. You get Blocker
and Bese talking together and they're talking another language, you know,
about tactics and rugby league. And I was just a
caller that called what happened in front of me, and
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they'd be talking about, you know, the different plays that
should have happened, and how you counteract things and all
the rest of it. But Bozo he grew into that role. Okay,
So he was like in the eighties, it was fairly intense.
You know, when they won the Grand Final in eighty seven,
my first Grand Final when mainly beat Camberri at the SCG,
he was really intense. And even later on he was intense,
(38:20):
but he became less intense. He was a private person
who had to gain his trust for him to you know,
really trust you to the extent he tell you things
he wouldn't tell other people. But I'll give you an
example of how funny he is. We were in I
might have been ninety four when they scored that great
try at Old Trafford and back at.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
One Hall and malmoninger Rickie Stewart and trained an intersept
pass and they won the first Test at Wembley, I think,
great Britain, and then we won the second one at
Old Trafford.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
The best game of all time.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, a great game and great call by the late
David Morrow on TV who was working with Channel ten
and I called on radio. But anyway, Beze said that
Chippy and I am Thirsty right here. We're going to
have a weekend. This weekend, I'm giving the players some
time off just to kick back and relax. I can
go and do what they like, he said, and we're
gonna have a bit of fun as well. So I
said what are we doing? And he said, you've got
a car horse. He said, Chippy doesn't drink, so he
(39:17):
can drive it. We'll go to a place called Wilmslow,
south of Manchester. He said, we'll go down there on
a Saturday night. We'll have a food and a bit
of fun and get on the drink. And I didn't
drink that much at that stage, but I said, okay,
on for that. Thirsty was called thirsty for obvious reasons.
So we get in this little car and we're driving
back to Manchester in the fog, and Bezes had a skinful.
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He's in the front. I'm in the back with Thirsty
and we both had a skinful and Chippy stone cold.
So we get a round about, big roundabout, and Beze
said nine n second exit and on third exit, fourth exit,
go straight ahead and all this act shut up. You idiots.
What am I going to do? So we get halfway
through the roundabout and Beze pulls o handbreak on and
(40:01):
we do a three sixty. Good work, Bobby, you could
kill us all here in the fight on the round
about in Manchester. So next thing, the blue light flashes, right,
I said, oh the coppers. I thank god ship he's
not drinking. So anyway, the copper pulls us over and
he says, what are you blokes doing? And he said,
our officer. We're with the Australian rugby league team. This
(40:23):
is the coach, Bob Fulton comes from Warrington, originally trying
to suck up and two commentators in the back. He said,
but we're just lost, he said, we're trying to He said,
well I just saw you. He said, spin it, arm mate.
You know the car, We just probably took it a
bit too quick and all that. So Beze sitting there
looking at this cop who had the big like the
Bobby's had on. Yeah, and so without missing a beat,
Beze I said how big is your fucking head? And
(40:47):
so she said shut up, shut up. He said no,
he said, take you on, what I want to see
if your heads is big without the helmet. So anyway,
the copper says he you come from Warrington. He said,
yees come from Warrington, and so Boze said, oh yeah,
the yeah I made that, and so you know, he said,
now you go straight through the roundabout and Chippy saying
(41:09):
shut up about his head. And so the copper walks
away and Beze sticks he said that the window and said,
you're still got a fucking big answer.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It's good fight, all right. Bob Fulton a good fighter.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I never saw him fight, but I would imagine, I'll
tell you one thing, he'd never give up. Well, he
would have thought like he played rugby league.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And the boys. One thing for you Blakes, which I
really appreciate, is that they would as a team. You'd
stick tight. So if someone got into one of you blakes,
you got into all this. Yeah, I remember there was
an instance once we played in nine. We played Cronulla
at home. Right now, what had happened Ray going the game? Andrew?
We lost in Origin through the week and Joey had
(41:49):
a particularly poor game. Anyway, one of the selectors had
tipped Chippy off and said, mate, John's Andrew's going to
be dropped and he's right, So that paper runs it
going into that game that day. Anyway, we're going to
the game and Joey in this game has a blinder,
ends up setting up bet four or five tries and
you know, really states his case to remain in the team. Anyway,
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I'm walking into the press conference with Warren Warren Ryan
who actually hated Chippy.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You know, and it was mutual, like I said, it
was mutual.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Mutual and anyway, he said, he do you so favors
stick up for your brother here. Now I didn't know
what was had been on the back paper, and I
certainly didn't know the Chippy wrote it.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
All.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I was saying that the selectors, you know, talking about
dropping and if they dropping their kidding anyway, I said,
you know this anyway, they Warren nudged me and said,
trying to defend your brother and it was all about
Chippy and he goes. I said, yeah, there's all the
reports going around, but Andrew been dropped. Fan if you
saw him today, you know, if anyone wants to drop Joey, mate,
they just done out. They're looking at well as I
(42:51):
walk out, Barry too, who graws me it was a
Newcastle journalist knew Chippy very well, and he said, oh, listen,
you want to be careful. He said, mate, be just
taking that personal and I said, well, no, not having
to go, Chippy, I'm having to go anyway. It was
too late, so for the next seax, I turned on
the Every time I turned on the continuous call. All
(43:11):
I was saying is made seriously. Newcastle are fantastic side,
but they've got to get a decent.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Fucking five a well. To that extent, you work now
occasionally with Buzz and look, I used to have a
fair platform. I was working seven days a week right.
I was doing the talkback show, the talk show Monday
to Friday, and the football so I could square up
with Buzz. I'm now legless. If he attacks me, I've
(43:37):
got unless this podcast I can give him, sir. But
I noticed that Andrew is locked on with bulldog Richie
this ye Jack check. Look Andrew, you're fighting any your
weight division. I pissed myself. Bulldogs are made of mine.
But you know this. I've been riding rugby league for
thirty six years and I'm went for foxake ball. I'll
(43:58):
drop off. I mean, you think paramatter are legalist under
Jason Rowles I disagree with you, by the way. I
think Rolls will be a really good coaching and I
think he's done a pretty good job this year. Joey
thinks like I do. And just because he happen to
mention your name, mate, it's notoriety. It's notoriety. He said
your name. He didn't say you know Bullman Richie or
(44:22):
get your name. He got your name right. So if
you get your name right, it's a fairly large audience.
He's talking to one free to wear, so just cop it.
But Andrew.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Is a character I love about bulldoger this. Someone asked
me about Bulldog recently, and Bulldog write these articles philly
provocative articles on para matta And they said, yeah, what
was behind that? I said, You've got to understand about Bulldog, right,
I said, when Bulldog wrote that story a number of
years ago, during the COVID years, this is the worst
Queensland side ever, right, And they they're going to win
(44:53):
the series. Well, that front page that Bulldog had written
and been proven dramatically and all the coins. Most people
would get that front page of Barrett in their backyard.
Every time he is interviewed via zoom, he sits in
the camera in the background. Not only has he got
the front page, he went and got a fucking frame.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
I did, like, what was the headline, Jack of the
Jack's got it? What's the headline of the article he
rode about Joey. It's like something you don't have to
be an immortal or something.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Don't need an immortal snapping at my heels.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
There's nothing People in Melbourne dont understand that. There's nothing
like a rugby league blue And what you're.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
About to listen to is, as you may have just learned,
Bulldog Richie went after our uncle Joey during the week,
so we decided to play a little prank back on Bulldog.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Enjoy mate, Doggie boy, what mate, I'm in the middle
of a podcast with Joey. Now I've got a bit
of mile that you're going to unleash on three sixty
or something. No, im, mate, you've got to drop off.
He's an immortal. I know you've been capping in the
game for thirty six years, but you've got to.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Drop one of my favorite players of all time.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Well, mate, you wouldn't think so, the way you're right
about him. That was a disgrace what you said about him, mate,
he's a personal made of mine. He's a personal friend
of mine. Okay, well, I don't think so. The way
he's talking about you here, has he bagging me? Well,
I wouldn't say he's being very complimentary?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Okay, he take me first?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Attack you, mate? He's an immortal. Isn't titled attack who
he likes? Aren't your opinion? Well? Mate, yes i am,
But I wouldn't take on an immortal. Ain't they're not
an immortal? No, look, i'd advise you on now, I'm serious.
I'd advise you on three sixty to drop off. Mate.
(46:47):
I'm not going to Well, you're not going to go
on there, So you ship yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
You apologize to me?
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Hang on, hang on, he's here. What do you say, Joe?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
If you want to apologize, sweet, are.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
You gonna apologize?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Apolog Why not?
Speaker 4 (47:02):
It takes a big man bulldog to step back from things. Okay,
you've been doing for thirty six years. It won't be
the first apology you've made me, well, mate, hang on,
hang on, and he might he concede what you want
to do.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I'll apologize. He's apolagy that sorry, mate?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Oh then that's fine.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I'm sorry. Too, we got to move on.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
That was Maddy, by the way, you're on the podcast,
but Jack and Matthew John Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I would not have gone better, well, would I tell you?
Terrific Blake. That's the end of part one, right, that's
time to jump over for part two, which I hope
you enjoy every bit as much I know you will
What's the matter, daddy. You're not yourself at the moment,
you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit
I tear.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I could really pick my mood up. What did you
want to know?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'll do anything.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you really want to know? Yes, I want people
to hit subscribe. Hit that subscribe button. It's going to
really elevate my spirit.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If the people respect.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You as a man and as a as a medium
mogul in Australia, I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Will do it. Well, I hope so.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Right, this is a gathering of radio titans. Correct legend,
legend and I want to be what was that?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Where's Kyle?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
What you said? Legends? Tired? You're on s on Friday?
And get where are you?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm on kiss as well?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, he does extra Kyle now.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Lit, I don't know if you've done rat in a while,
but we like to get these mics right into their well.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Mate, normally, I've got engineers helping me out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
He did that for forty three years.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Blaker was a big part of our podcast a couple
of years.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Gave do you know his nickname the one eye one
Eyron because I gave him that he was well, he's
still a big tall thing. But when he first started
working with us, or probably twenty years ago, as a
young play he looked like a one eye. He had
a set of ears on him and he was straight
up and straight down, and so he didn't he was
a good golfer. Two, he was a particularly good golfer.
He's a single figure marker, I think the one. Yeah, yeah,
(01:26):
I don't think he plays much anymore. He's got kids
and a wife to look after. So he's a good Yeah. Pickford,
he's a wonderful Yeah. Picked him as well. That's his mate, mate.
I want to give is a wrap too. I just
listened to the face to face that you and Matthew.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So you're doing a lot of the face to face
for Fox Sports for the final series.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, we're doing a series, Cooper, We're doing. We've done
Mick Croman. We've also done Cliffy and Beaver and then
your Dad and it's intentioned. I think that we do
Kevy and Alphi together, Kevy Waders obviously than your National.
I'm trying to get older Craig Bellamy to do it
as well, because given his success in Grand finals, that
(02:06):
would be a nice balance and maybe Wayne, you know,
but you know, people are harder to get towards the
end of the season. So we'll leave that to the
Fox Sports to sort out.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I have.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But yeah, we've got four in the can and hopefully
a couple to come.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Who's been your favorite so far?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Because I just listened to you and Matthew and listen here,
this is a great rap for you because I've heard
those stories every Saturday for the last fifteen years. The
dad told but it was I still had goosebumps listening
to it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, I had the hairs in the back of my
next ending up about a couple of the stories. And look,
your dad and I, you know, we've known each other
for a couple of decades, basically since he came to grade.
More than a couple of decades.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Third decade, right, yeah, for our third decade.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And he spent the life his life taking the piss
out of me as a serious broadcaster. And now I'm
not a serious broadcaster. Who cares. I had him and
your mother down at Gorst and Gorge when he had
nothing else to do on radio. When he retired and
went the Fox, I said, he's down there at Gorson
was watching for trucks and caravans blocking the gorge and
nearly everywhere I go. Now some idiot yells out any
(03:06):
trucks on the Golston Guards. Mate.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Get There's also a rumor Dad started about you that
you had, like you put something on your nipple.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Nipple rings. Your mom and dad came to my place
at Dural. I was living there by myself at the time.
It was very lonely in that six I had two
tennis court, two pools, six amound by myself. I sold
it eventually, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We had to masturbate every torle every day.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I did my best. You could do that at that age,
not anymore. Anyway, he goes, I don't know where he went,
on Fox or radio or somewhere. You know, he's a
multi media personality, and he had me living in a
dungeon with sex toys and you know those things, harnessed
things that you put people in and funny.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You nipple clamps, that's it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
So that caused me some consternation. I was at that
time a very serious commentator, you know, a high profile
talkcast who was getting yelled at from truck as in
nipple clams.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Garne Ale mate, Well, I remember there was a bit
of a few going on screen.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You were Matthew at the time. Was it when you
were at Triple M when you would kind of go at.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Each other way back and forward? Yeah? Yeah, because mate,
we look, we'd have a bit of fun. I'd have
a go Ray and Ray sort of fire back. He
gets there through the show. I might be doing it
or something and he'd be talking. I'd send a message
through so it sounding great today, Ray, maybe speak up
a little bit and he read made.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I've got this.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I've got this bloke right. And it's funny how people
take it serious. Mate, listen, just going to give your
heads up. Hadley gave it to the other day. Oh
it is.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
It is funny reflecting back on it now, because I
mean I did a serious program, but for thirty five
years I did the Continuous Care Team, which was just
a bistake. The whole thing was a bit steak. You know.
We deal with Chippy the Lake, Peter Frilling Go and
the late Bob Fulton and Blocker and a whole host
of other people. We do some bizarre things and people
would think it was serious, and I think that translated
(05:07):
into the Talk Venture that I eventually got into twenty
three years ago. And so you know, some of the
stuff I did was quite serious. But I can assure
you the stuff I did about your father was just
me taking the piss and having a bit of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was funny. We first metature that we did an
ad together, the Gary Harley Organize Yourself. My brother Andrew.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
We're on a roof. We're not a roof and Harley,
he said, listen, get up here. I'll give you a thousand.
I said, what am I going to do? He said,
TV commercial for one of my sponsors. So I get
up there. They put me on a roof with your father.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
With the two least handy people in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Harley said, Look, he said, if he can give Maitland
Toyota wrap, you can do that as well. Could I
drive a car from Maitland Toadda anyway, So that was
the first encounter with your dad. I don't know that
Harley ever.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Gave the manywait Maitland. The one rate was as far
as working relationship, because when I first come into first grade,
to you, we lost the right. You lost the rights
to call the game and interview people within the stadium.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, we had them. We actually lost the rights after
the Grand Final in nineteen ninety nine, right, so what happened.
We have a Super League war and I was on
the side of the ar L. So when the NRL
came together, Malcolm Nate, who was a good blake, he
was the chairman from News Limited, and I'd said some
things about some clubs who were part of the ar L,
(06:40):
you know, about salary caps or whatever it was at
the time. So when it came to have the rights,
singer at two GB said, I'll give you a million
dollars to have exclusive rights. We call everything. The ABC
can still partake, but we call everything. So we lost
the rights at the end of the year two thousand,
I'm sorry, at the end of nineteen ninety nine into
(07:01):
two thousand. So I went to the management and I
went there obviously Beozo and Chippy and said, look, we
haven't got the rights. What do you want to do.
And I said, oh, well, we'll bat on if they
want to beat on. So I went to John Condy,
the the company and he's a good blake. John still
batting about and I said, look, we can still do
a rugby league program. And I said, well, we'll make
it fun, you know, we'll just take the piss out
(07:23):
of everybody. And he said, but people want to hear scores.
I said, well, they have people in hot air balloons
over the tile grounds, and we'll have you know, people
phoning in with scores. So Singer then injuncted us on
two counts. You wouldn't know. He's a good mate of mine.
But he injuncted me on calling it the continuous call team.
So we became the talking league team because we weren't
continuously calling rugby league. And then he injuncted us on
(07:44):
getting scores from inside the ground, so we were sort
of hamstrung. And so I'd get an open line. Callers
ring in say good ray air gun. Yeah, great day
of paramatter. I said, what's the weather like, mate, Yeah, sonny,
I said, you're nothing about football. Yeah, paramatter are leading
mainly ten nil at halftime. Oh good idea mate, thanks
very much. So we had punners doing it, and so
the first ratings came out and Singer had spent all
(08:07):
this money. He'd taken Gibbs and Browman off me to
go over there, and he had John Harker calling football.
He had Mark Warren calling football. He had Peter Wilkman's
calling football. He's calling every game. He was calling Thursday,
Friday games on Saturday Sunday, and we weren't calling any games.
The survey comes out, we win, so I said, oh,
that's going to be a bit of a fluke. So
(08:28):
we win again. So we win eight surveys consecutively, four
in two thousand and four in two thousand and one.
So I couldn't quite believe it, and Bose couldn't believe it,
and Chip he couldn't believe it that we won the
ratings despite not calling the football. So that sort of
started the path of the continuous call team just being
and the Robertson brothers who write songs for me and
(08:49):
still do. They were part of the program and they
write songs and take parodies and famous songs and turn
them into you know, parodies about footballers and things that,
and so that went on for two years, and then
I think the NRL got a bit nervous that they'd
given the rights to Singo and we were still winning
the ratings, and so they decided that maybe they'd put
(09:12):
them up for grabs. But in the meantime, I got
the sack after nine and is it t ui? A
Blake called Tony Bell cor We knew his office. He
was the CEO of Southern Cross. They bought it off
broadcast investments off for the Lamb and Condie families. And
I'd been filling in for Laws since nineteen ninety two,
fourteen weeks a year. Laws used to take a lot
of time off. And he said to me, what do
(09:35):
you want to do. Your contract's up in October October
two thousand and one, and I said, well, I'd like
to stay if I can. He said, yeah, You've done
well of this continuous call team stuff or talking league,
what do you call it. He was from Melbourne to
Blake and he said something I've never forgotten. He denies it,
but it's true. There's only two in the room, me
and him, and I know what he said. He said,
I regard you as a competent sports commentator, but you're
(09:55):
not a talk case. And I was getting three hundred
thousand a year at the time, and I I said,
well mate, He said, I'm going to cut your back.
You're not going to do Laws anymore. You're going to
get one hundred and seventy five. And I said, I said,
I'm not signing for that. I said, I'm gonna coming backwards.
So I rang Singer he'd been after me, and I said, mate,
we need to have a Yarna might want to come
across there and call football. And he said, yeah, I
(10:17):
heard you just got the sack at tow you we
so come over and see me. So I wasn't in
a very strong position, but I went and saw him.
He wrote stuff he's always does on a scrap of
paper on the back of his hand and said, there's
your contract. So I took it up to made of Mind.
Alan Sullivan has Senior Council Queen's Council, just up from
where we signed the contract in Macquarie Street, and Alan
said that's not worth the paper shitting and he said,
(10:37):
come on, I'll go back down and do it formally.
So he came back and we signed and that was
to do the football. So the first thing I did
was ring Chippy, Beazo and Blocker and said, well you
carry them over, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But I remember those like Coops said that you couldn't
when you lost the rights. You also couldn't interview people
within the stadium once once you're outside the stadium. It
was an interview. So what tanum of gay side on
tum a.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Gay and one dog, one bone ray and a boss
can lend me fifty and tell me hunchback brother straight
and se himself out. That was his favorite one. Hey, listen,
you just reminded me of something and I made of mine.
Told me yesterday about Magoo. We're down at Woollongong, right
and he say, he called me boss, a boss. Come
to the sideline. This is before the game. I said,
what's wrong? We go? He said, I tell you the
(11:21):
story about the parachutist and the gas barbecue. I said no,
He said, well, he said a blake jumped out of
a plane above Woollongong not long ago, and he's coming down.
He's pulling the cord. Nothing's working, and he sees a
blake coming up from the ground the other direction. He
says to the blake, do you know anything about parachutes?
And the blake says no, do you know anything about
gas barbecues?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He was a classic. I remember walking semi final, going
on the foot literally coming back from warm up semi
final and Magoo's there and Magoo goes a mad. He
got a second and got one for you joke. I said,
we're about to play semi final, making mcgooie get you
after a game listen made he can do me solid
and he'd take you to it like a secret room.
(12:05):
It have burped out and that's where you do the
interview and you pretend to be outide side around.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
He's down the South cast now. Well, he was in
Hollywood start line I originally and we pinched him when
they went to two KY from two GB and Zorba's
a made of mine now but now in retirement up
on the Central case, not far from me. But he
cracked a great line about me in eighty seven we're
getting the lap Ray price with McKay commentator and he
(12:34):
came up with a great saying. Ray One day we're
at North Sidney Oval and he went to say something
and Chip he said what he was going to say,
and he said, you've stolen my line with a feather.
I haven't here. I am thirty years later still trying
to figure out what he's got anyway, But so Magoo
(12:54):
was a great character and when we got him, he
was just a beauty and all the sayings he had
he used to get to the dogs that went with
Park every Saturday night because he was a grand reporter.
You know, he used to cover the dogs for the
Daily Mirror or you know whoever back the Sun I
originally and that was his favorite line. We get to
about ten to six, he say, hey, boss, you've got
one hundred and two hunchback brother straight and himself. I
(13:17):
mean he had to give him a hundred because of
a great one. I didn't say it every week, magoo.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He said always. I remember once I was Trician and
he's walked past on. This is my partner trition, I said,
a true marking around, be careful, he's real pantsman, right, goes, oh,
come on, Maddie, you know me mate, one dog, one barone.
It's true, Like because how was John Brennan hopped in
(13:41):
your cab? That what the origin?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Right? So I was an auctioneer for a company called
pittsund And Badgery, and I wanted to be a race caller.
So I quit the auctioneering and strang enough, there weren't
many jobs for race callers in the Sydney Morning here,
all classified, so I applied for a few jobs. In fact,
what I did I hadn't old eh old and I
got in it and I thought, I'll go to country
(14:05):
radio and see if I'm going to start with no experience.
So I drove up the cast. I went a two
g A Gosford two HD Newcastle. They gave me an
interview two r E Tai two km KEMC two cs
costs but two m Lismore Radio twenty seven of tweed Heeads.
And then I came Inland. I went to Gyra in
Veril two m Z. Then I went to Armadale two
(14:26):
AD two TM ten Worth two mg Mudgie two Dudbo
two l t Lyft go back to Sydney and didn't
get a job.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Better say you know them. You don't have to grudguate.
That's great.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So anyway, oh well, you know I was only a
mug and you didn't have any experience.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And are you actually are you just knocking on the
door trying.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I just got to the studio and I'm meeting the
program the rector and is Mike Cast said I can
call football and call razors. Give me a start. They said, yeah,
good luck, see you lad. Because most people came to
a country radio through the Max Rolly school of announcing,
he was an old broadcast. I'm actually had a school
for broadcasters and plenty of the great broadcaster went to
Max Role was a bit of a genius when teaching
people how to enunciate and pronunciate and all the rest
(15:04):
of it. So anyway, I had no luck. So I
came back and my father had passed away nine and
seventy five. By the ars haad of me pants. I
was living with my mum at dully Chill. She said,
I told you, Raymond, it was stupid to quit auctioneering.
What are you going to do? So I made of
mine said I got a cab. It was actually Paul
Meya's father, John Niwow, and he had a cab Cumberland Cabs.
(15:26):
He said, drive the cab. So I got a cab license.
And I was knocking about for a fair while and
I couldn't get a start. Then I got a job
at Appendogs funny story about appen Dogs. The old blake
that ran it was a real Stern, old bastard called
Jock McDonald, lovely fellow at Stern. Anyway, I'd work Friday night,
then drive the cab out there to call the first
race at twelve forty five fifteen races used to get
(15:48):
thirty six dollars for calling fifteen racers That appened ow
class Campbelltown. So after about six months I went to
him and I said, mister McDonald, yes, son, I said,
is there any chance of a pay rise? He said,
how much we pay you? I said thirty six fifty? He
said what do you want? I said fifty dollars. He
said fifty dollars. He said, well, I'll tell you I
can save some money. Stop getting the cab of the
track every day. I said, I'm not brying, fucking I'm not,
(16:10):
I'm driving it. He said, you're what I said, I
drive it. I work all Friday night, then drive it
out of here. And he said, well, he said, okay,
you know the fifty dollars he was. He was good anyway.
So one Tuesday night, John Mayores rang Men said, look,
the night driver hasn't turned up. Do you want the cab?
And I said, you can't get it. Quit on Tuesday nights.
Johnn He said, well, don't worry out of paying. You'd
(16:32):
pay fifty or sixty bucks to the cab of the pain.
He said, just put gas lpage in it and do
your best. So I got my cab and went into
town from Paramatta, got a fair to North Sydney. I
was sitting on North Sydney Rank. There used to be
a hamburger joint there that all the cabins would go
to to have a cap of coffee or a cup
of tea and a hamburger. So I sat there up
I stay. A call came through Miller McLaren the North
(16:55):
Ride and I said, yeah, point card North Sydney Rank,
and I knew it was to your week. So I
get up there and a blake called Mark Collier, who's
still a great mate. He's the news director. He's fully
in for a black called John Pearce, the late John
piss six to nine. He was crooked, so marked it
the job and I picked him up at ten past
nine and off we go. And wasn't a young blake.
(17:15):
We're going up the Ebbing highways and ten year later
or whatever it's called. And he says, so you unia,
I said, no, mate, No, I'm a race caller. He
said you're a fucking race caller. I said yeah. He
said you can't be a very good one if you're
driving a cab on a Tuesday night. And I said
you're probably right. So he then he then says what
do you want to do? And I said, I want
(17:35):
to get into radio. And he said, well, i'm the
news director at to UI is you probably know? Said,
don't know who you are. He said, give me your number,
So I gave you mum's number five six nine two
three oh five. Isn't it funny you remember now?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Is that the home line?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That's mum's homeline at dull a Chune five six nine
four seven. Yeah. Anyway, so about two months later, Mum
says to me, a man called mister Collie is looking
for you, so I'll bring him back and go in
and see him. He said, you're still driving the cap
I said, yeah, still calling the dogs. I said, I've graduated.
What are you doing? I said, appened below an hour?
He said, oh geez, are climbing up the run. So
(18:11):
he said, we need a traffic reporter for Gary our callahan.
This is about nineteen eighty and I said, yeah, I
can do that. He said, you've been the choppy before, please,
of course I have. I hadn't seen one, let it
be in one. So up I go on the helicopter
and I did that for a couple of years got
a rapport with Gary. Then Dez Hoist said someone said
Dez News help with the races, and they said, oh,
(18:32):
that young buck calls races. So I ended up with
Dez and then John Tap came on board and he
was my greatest mentor. He let me call races in
nineteen eighty four that was my first race call on
to y Wik. And then in eighty six Rex Muss
have called the football on radio Wow Yeah. He come
from Channel seven and Cold Pierce and Frank Hyde were
(18:55):
both by this time. Frank had come from twosm the
be a expert commentator on two You Week and Rex
call the football in a TV style on radio. Kenny
he used to smoke a pipe too, Sterling while he
was calling Yeah, and he couldn't get that rapid fire
you had. You know, you're doing radio. It's the ball
on the outside, Kenny, Sterling, come back on the inside,
(19:16):
the grave twenty five meters out and like all that stuff.
And Rex of he's calling it like it was a
TV call. So I didn't work too well for him.
So in eighty seven Rabs had got the punt from
Channel ten because he wouldn't go to Los Angeles on
a plane to do the Olympics. Smart move Rabs. He's
a fucking idiot, he's a made of mind, but what
(19:37):
a fuck with anyway, So they offered the job at
t UI to Hollywood AND's Orbit to come from gb
They said no, they were going flying over there, then
the Rabs. He said no. Then to Jeff Pretter who
was calling on two k Y, then to John McCoy
was in Brisbane, then to a black called Kevin Seymour
who was calling a bit of football, and they all
said no because Hollywood and Orbit were dominating. And then
(19:59):
finally Hollier again said to Breno, who would come across
from two SM about three years earlier? I said, what
about Hadley? And I'd called a couple of games when
Cole two years early was in New Zealand calling test matches,
and they said, yeah, he can call football, so but
he calls racers. He sounds like a race caller. So
Brene I said, well, let's go with him. So they
rang me up and said you want to call the
(20:20):
football in eighty seven and I was getting about nineteen
five hundred dollars a year, and I said, Breno well, yeah,
we'll talk about it. Yeah, I want to be a
race caller. So I rang John Tap who was my
confidant and mentor, and I said, they want me to
call football mate And he said, well, listen to tell
you the truth. He said, we're just about in our
last league. Sky channel hadn't been invented. He said, there's
(20:41):
two race callers and it said me and a Craig.
He said, there's not room for another one. You're probably
not going to get a start. He said, but go
back and see much money they want to give you.
So I went back and I said to Bren what
sort of cash are we talking about? He said sixty K?
So I ring Tap me back and I said, they
want to give me sixty k. He said, fuck that,
I'll do it, so he said take the job. So
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I took the job. We got bashed up by Hollywood
and Zorber in eighty seven and eighty eight. Zorba back
to him. He made a great comment about me knowing
knew who it was. I was a race caller becoming
a rugby league caller. He said, Ray Hadley is the
only good robber bank without a mask on, and they
wouldn't know the fuck are we is?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Did you know much about rugby league.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
That I've been a great I'd love the game. Yeah,
I'd sort of vascillator between Paramatter and Balmain because I
came from that sort of area when we moved from
the country. And yeah, ken Thorne it was my hero.
I just loved Ken Thornett back in the sixties, and
I loved Dick. I loved Bobo Riley later on. I
still mates with him. He's going to in fact, he's
buying an apartment next door to me, bobbing and that's
(21:42):
going to work out for.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Him ort move.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But anyway, so we got lapped eighty seven eighty eight,
and in fact then eighty eight they went again to
Hollywood and Zorba and then Price he left to go
back and played for Wakefield Trinity. He resurrected his career
in England and so we you know, then Peter Felling
Gos helped me, and then Bose came on board and
gave me some credibility because I had none as a
rugby league person, and by nineteen eighty nine ninety ninety
(22:08):
we won the ratings.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And how did you and Boso become friends?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Well, when when he got beaten in the eighties by
Jack I suppose of the eighty three Grand or maybe
whether they were in eighty one, eighty two, eighty three three.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Grand final outsides. Yeah, mainly Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, Bozo was the coach and Jack had beaten him.
And there's this great photo that Bozo had with me
with a droopy mustache in the background with a microphone
and Bese, I've still got it home, and Beose did
it up for me and said, hey, Jack, if we
keep talking this fuck with behind it probably won't talk
to us, so let's keep talking and something like that,
and Beose gave it to me. Is a bit of
(22:47):
a joke. And then we became very close. And then
I went on kangaroo tours that he was the coaching
and he became Peter Flingos died in two thousand and four.
He was my best best mate. And then Bese and
I went through the grief of losing Peter together and
we became closer and closer and closer. He became involved
with my family, I became involved in his family, and
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I mean I couldn't compete with him intellectually about rugby league.
He was the most incredibly knowledgeable person I've ever met.
But we just became mates, and until he's untimely death,
of course we were still mates. He came to my
wedding when we married safe. He shouldn't have been there.
He is crook. And I remember taking him back to
the car with end to put him in the car,
and he just he wasn't an emotional sort of blake.
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Wasn't a blake to hug people. He shake your hand
and do a limp wristed shake and take the mickey.
But he hugged me really tight, and he called me Horsey.
That was all he ever caught me. He said, horse,
we won't see each other again. And I said, no, no,
I'll come then and see He said, no, no, you
won't come and see me. This is it. I'll see
you later. And I spoke with Zorba at his funeral.
(23:56):
And I lost my dad in seventy five, I lost
Peter in two thousand and four, and I lost Bozo
more recently. And those are the three most important men
in my life.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Those when you know, having Chippy, having Boo like you
know Boso, how integral was he in giving you and
that show like credibility.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Look, any success I had was traced back to him.
When you had someone and the original mortal on your program.
We had Jack Gibson there as well. We had Wayne
Pierce on the program, Lourie Daily. We're all members of
the continuous care team, the late Peter Jackson. But Bozo
gave me credibility by treating me as an equal. Okay,
so I never played first grade rugby league. I never could.
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I was a broadcaster, That's what I was, and I'd
like to think I was a competent rugby league broadcaster.
I did thirty four Grand Finals, ninety nine State of Origins,
and thousands of games. But the credibility that Bob Fulton
brought to me by treating me as an equal on
air was really amount to my success. For someone like
Bob Fulton to anoint you as someone that can be
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listened to made all the difference to my career. I'll
never ever forget the impact that he had on my career.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
How much fun was a continuous call?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It was a lot of fun. And to let you know,
Hollywood and Disorba, so Peter Peters and gree Hartley, they
were that they were like the first team to come
along and really provide this great entertainment show that they're
the originals, and then new blokes well copy the form
a little bit similar formula.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, Coopy, what used to happen, say, when Frank was
calling the football and Tiger Black on two k Y
and Cole Piers they come on a ten to three
on a Saturday and Sunday and call the football and
then be off at.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Five seeing Danny Boy and this.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Frank seeing any boy and go am. And what Hollywood
and Zorba did with Richard Fisk, who was their producer
of Great Old Maid of Mine is still battling around.
They came on at midday and started and he'd had
his brother Tony Peter's doing it of using the dressing
rooms and all that sort of stuff. And Tanney was
a great beat up merchant and I got a big
story down his orb. Someone's got a car back on
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their ass, you know. And so they brought theater to it.
And even now Peter is a good mate of mine,
and he'll say to me, you know, you'd be nothing
without me, he said, because we said there And they
created this mystique about rugby league in the early eighties,
you know, through through to the period when they didn't dominate.
They made a mistake. They went from to Jibi to
(26:31):
k Why and they shouldn't have done it, you know,
And that's how we eventually beat them when they went
to k Why. But so we'd come on at midday
and you do you know, the Super League War changed
it because there was that much drama. Cooper, your dad
lived through it. I lived through it. Now everyone was
fighting with each other mates, someone were fighting with each other.
Gibbs used to fight with Chippy. Chippy had fight with Gibbs.
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Bezo would fight with Chippy because bezon Arilla line. And
it became so I said one day, I said, listen,
all this bullshit's got to stop. Okay, we can't keep
fighting with each other. No one gives a flying fuck
because it's not fun anymore. We've got to make it
fun again. So I spoke to the Robertson brothers who
(27:16):
were mates of mine, and said, I need some Rugby
League parodies. And one of the Robinson brothers, Benny's a
great Rugby League fan, so I didn't have to explain
to him what I needed, you know, and hed do
all these parodies, so we'd start having fun. And so
we'd come on at twelve for about fifteen minutes and
talk about the game the night before, and then chaos, chaos, yeah,
just nothing to do with rugby and chip it off
(27:36):
and say what's this gut there with rugby league? Say fuck, oh,
let's get into it, and we'd have fun and we'd
and I honestly would sit there both that to you,
and later at two GB, I would just whip myself laughing.
And I was a pedel operator as well as controlling
the show. I was in the chair, and so I
had jobs to do, and we'd have the one eye
and other young Blake's pressing the buttons for ads next
(27:57):
door in the joining studio. But sometimes you just couldn't
stop laughing, you know. And then and then the big
Man rejoined the team, and he's one of the funniest
men I've ever worked with, that funny, and you know,
sometimes it's funny when he doesn't mean to be funny.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're the funniest.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
They like it there. And so all of a sudden
it took on this, you know, and I still get
people now, and the continuous call team still exists. But
not with me as part of it anymore. But I'd
get people coming up to me and say, and this
is the longevity part of it that your father's referring to.
So I'll get people that came up to me previously
and said, well, I started listening with my dad, and
now I'll listen with my son. Because we started effectively
(28:34):
in eighty seven, but we got into it in about
nineteen eighty nine, ninety ninety, and then particularly when Super
League hit, and then we had to find another thing
to do because you couldn't just talk about the Super
League all the time because it was boring his bat shit.
And it was two media heavyweights that was News Limited
against Kerry Packet's organization trying to get control for either
Optors or Fox, you know. In the end, and then
(28:54):
the first court case under James Birchett delivered a verdict
to the aarl like one hundred nil, and then I
appeal and went to the News Limited organization one hundred nil,
you know. And so then when I said, look, the
war's over, let's get on with it. Ah, you're a
trade of the cause. Well, I can say with some
confidence I was one of the very few people along
with Chippy not to make a quid out of the
(29:15):
Super League War. Everyone else would getting money stypends from
either the Aarl Optus or Fox or News. You know.
People were buying farms on the money they got. And
I remember Blocker, who'd retired previously to it today, a
front rower who wouldn't stand in his boots got about
six hundred thousand dollars and block is it? What abouther?
There's fucking idiots six hundred thousand twice the player he
(29:37):
was that he was right, you know, And so the
game needed to grow out of that. And fortunately the
people I did battle with, including Gallop and Ensley and
the whole range of them, they're great mates of mine, now,
you know. And let me say this to you, Cooper,
that's an old black. I'm seventy one next month. If
it happened all over again, I do it entirely differently
because at the end of the day, I remember after
(29:59):
the big battle on the footage show where I served
it up the ReBs where he said Alan Lang is
going to be a superstar in Beijing, and I said, well,
that's all bullshit. You know, they're not going to start
playing rugby league there and it's all about money. John
and Kerry Packer was in the outer area and James
came in and shook my hand and said, thanks mate,
he'd done a great job. So when they got back together,
(30:22):
Channel Line started doing this super League. They got the
rights to super League, so they were televising AARL and
Super League and then someone from the combined NRL, maybe ReBs.
I don't know, I don't care, change my life, changed
my career. Said you can't have badly on the footy show.
So the blaker come and shook my hand and said
you'd done a great job. Said you're not back next year,
(30:42):
You're gone, And so I thought, what was this all about?
And to that point about whether it's ReBs or whether
it's someone else. When we lost the rights in two thousand,
I owed them a great ditta gratitude. I went from
earning three hundred thousand earning three million. I mean, so
you can't be that with people who do things for
(31:02):
other reasons when it benefits you. And it did benefit
me greatly because I had a broadcasting There were twenty
five years.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
On that old you and we know how TV works.
You always have from the background, you know, let's get
ray on right. What ray is going to do? Rail Really,
he'll say the things others won't be going to say.
He'll take it right up to rubs and john Z
Chris John's and made it really good.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Raye.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Listen tonight, mate, Let's not let these blokes get away
with this blah blah blah blah blah. How do you
like before the show? Is that how it was played out?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, of course it was. I mean, it wasn't pre conceived,
but they just let me off the leash. And I
was a young, impetuous blake, not as smart as I
am now, thankfully, because as you get older, you get smarter.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
We do, I'm sure that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
So I was an impetuous blake and I you know,
and don't forget, we had an arl crowd. So every
time I go, yeah, get out of down, both go yeah,
little beauty. And there are other people on the panel
getting splinters in their arts from not doing that. They
were smarter than me, and so I was used to
a certain extent. But you know, I was a willing participant.
I wasn't Stockholm syndrome. I wasn't punished into doing and
(32:06):
I just did it because I thought it was right.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So remind me the two sides. Reeves was on the
Superlice side, and who was the face of the A
R L side?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, Ken Arthurs and Jim Quayle. Yeah, okay, okay, two
great men. I still see. He's retired up there at
Main Beach and John Quayle is just a champion. He's
in semi retirement up in the heart of Valley. I
spoke to him recently and just look fantastic loyal men.
And you know Guss was part of the deal along
(32:35):
with Bozo. There's a famous story about Steve Gillis now
and I claimed, weird Chimes, Well, I claim, I don't
know if he tell you this story, but he's in
the corridors of the Aril and Philip Street, right and
he's covering it for the Daily Telegraph. And so the
lawyers had said to Beozo and Gus, they've got to
have representation a manager, not just a lawyer. They've got
(32:56):
have a manager. So Bezo walked out and said, Chimes,
come here, said how much you getting paid to the Telegraph.
He said, good, you land double, come in here. You're
a manager.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah wow.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
So and so if I think Keith Blackett was his
first place.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Batti Blake up and said, matter, I think I could
be the next walle E Lewis.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, that's Keith Blackett. So Chimes became and now here
we are only forty years later. Chimes are still a manager.
And he got Bezo and Gus and the rest of them.
Think about it because he was and his Natee pad
out riding for the Daily Telegraph.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Incredible. So to give an ideal, Ragious said, there, and
I remember listening to your radio showed during the Super
League War, and I remember it got to the point
I remember that you said, listen, we're singing of this.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
All we're doing is.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Get people ringing up and you're bagging this or bagging that. Mate,
we're brushing it super League aarl. It's pre his own
because what actually happened at the time the game in
early in ninety five, we're a first hit for that
first three or four months the game become the game's
almost become irrelevant. Yeah, everything everything that was covered around
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the game was RL or Super League and the war
that was going on. And you are to be like
if Ray halfway they said, oh, by the way, you
know dogs areluding sixty and twelve people we didn't get.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Fuck. Yeah, that's exactly right. I think the crucial point
was at marathon. What you wouldn't remember this, but when
we first and Gary Harley had a problem with this,
when we first started broadcasting up there after eighty eight,
the broadcast boxes on top of the old grandstand on
the western side.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I remember just having to get up there. Yeah, and
so what had happened.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Harley was probably a bit lighter than he is now,
but he was still you know, at a few kges
hundred and sixty, Yeah, something like that. My love Gazer,
I can't bad gas. He's one of my best mates.
But anyway, what there was a VIP box right, and
there was no toilet up there when we started, no toilet,
so they drop a ladder down the VIP box and
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all the broadcasters to go up at midday and they'd
pull the ladder up. Yeah, you know, the ladder was
on the roof. Yeap. He was stuck up there. So
they were stuck up there. He had to piss on
against a.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Wall so that the commentry boxes, because I helped build
the commentry boxes, holds the groundsman they had to carry
all that.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, did you get a fuck a good job?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was wondering, didn't come a complete literally tragedy.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Where were the toilets?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They were attached to the roof of Mason, the old
stadium roof, so there was no way getting down they
You had to have to drop a ladder down from
the commentry boxes down to the crowd, walk down to
the crowd, go up room out the back and have
a squirt so for.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The crowd, like they'd be abusing you and what not.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No, No, they were very happy. They were having They
were all nerves in a corporate box and they're pissed
and we'd be climbing down the middle of them. But anyway,
there was a blue. The point I wanted to make,
so there's a blue on air between Gus on behalf
of the aar L and he was staunch and chippy
on behalf of usually because he had a wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He had to look after himself. Telegraph reporter.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, so anyway there was a blue and it was
really personal. So I shook my head and we went
or break. I said, well, that's it, I said, Gus
was working with us at the time. That's it. No
more what do you mean? I said, no more blowing
about the a R. Get finished. And Boze backed me
up and said, boys, it's boring, it really is boring.
(36:08):
And Bozo was an arl man, but he said it's boring.
Let's change tac and let's you know. And so I
said to Chippy and Gus, I said, shake hands and
let's get back into it. And gives. He used to
still froth at the mouth and you couldn't come in down.
He was like a little terrier with Chippy, you know,
and you're try and calm him down. I had to laugh.
He went on the seven thirty report and said I
was a bully when I had a little bit of
(36:29):
drama at radio, and I thought, Jesus, he's forgotten what
happened with him back in the day. But anyway, I digress.
So that was that was that day at marathon was
the end of it. That was the finish of it.
And by the way, they eventually put a Brasco in there,
but they put a curtain across if a cameraman or
someone from Channel nine or the A B C or
two GB or two UE wanted to go and have
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a squirt or something else.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
The curtain was thrown across the curtain.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
You draw the curtain across time.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I pull you out for one second, Bob Fulden, because
I met Boso when I was a junior at Manly,
and Bozo never struck me as like somebody who would
have been a real funny guy on radio.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Because he always seemed quite serious to me. Is that
my perception?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Tell the story where Bozo he's playing for the stuy
Ball of Manly. There was a certain tactic they were
using and the coach was denied and I don't know
why they did that. And then Bozo stay in the
back of the room and said, Cooper, why was the
team doing that? And you said, O, well, the coach
told us, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, okay, okay, Well I can understand as a young black,
you know, teenage.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I was seventeen.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah. Well there was two bezs. There's Footy Bezo and
fun bel right, And I was mainly involved with fun
Bezo because I couldn't speak to Beze. You get Blocker
and Bese talking together and they're talking another language, you know,
about tactics and rugby league. And I was just a
caller that called what happened in front of me, and
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they'd be talking about, you know, the different plays that
should have happened, and how you counteract things and all
the rest of it. But Bozo he grew into that role. Okay,
So he was like in the eighties, it was fairly intense.
You know, when they won the Grand Final in eighty seven,
my first Grand Final when mainly beat Camberri at the SCG,
he was really intense. And even later on he was intense,
(38:20):
but he became less intense. He was a private person
who had to gain his trust for him to you know,
really trust you to the extent he tell you things
he wouldn't tell other people. But I'll give you an
example of how funny he is. We were in I
might have been ninety four when they scored that great
try at Old Trafford and back at.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
One Hall and malmoninger Rickie Stewart and trained an intersept
pass and they won the first Test at Wembley, I think,
great Britain, and then we won the second one at
Old Trafford.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
The best game of all time.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, a great game and great call by the late
David Morrow on TV who was working with Channel ten
and I called on radio. But anyway, Beze said that
Chippy and I am Thirsty right here. We're going to
have a weekend. This weekend, I'm giving the players some
time off just to kick back and relax. I can
go and do what they like, he said, and we're
gonna have a bit of fun as well. So I
said what are we doing? And he said, you've got
a car horse. He said, Chippy doesn't drink, so he
(39:17):
can drive it. We'll go to a place called Wilmslow,
south of Manchester. He said, we'll go down there on
a Saturday night. We'll have a food and a bit
of fun and get on the drink. And I didn't
drink that much at that stage, but I said, okay,
on for that. Thirsty was called thirsty for obvious reasons.
So we get in this little car and we're driving
back to Manchester in the fog, and Bezes had a skinful.
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He's in the front. I'm in the back with Thirsty
and we both had a skinful and Chippy stone cold.
So we get a round about, big roundabout, and Beze
said nine n second exit and on third exit, fourth exit,
go straight ahead and all this act shut up. You idiots.
What am I going to do? So we get halfway
through the roundabout and Beze pulls o handbreak on and
(40:01):
we do a three sixty. Good work, Bobby, you could
kill us all here in the fight on the round
about in Manchester. So next thing, the blue light flashes, right,
I said, oh the coppers. I thank god ship he's
not drinking. So anyway, the copper pulls us over and
he says, what are you blokes doing? And he said,
our officer. We're with the Australian rugby league team. This
(40:23):
is the coach, Bob Fulton comes from Warrington, originally trying
to suck up and two commentators in the back. He said,
but we're just lost, he said, we're trying to He said,
well I just saw you. He said, spin it, arm mate.
You know the car, We just probably took it a
bit too quick and all that. So Beze sitting there
looking at this cop who had the big like the
Bobby's had on. Yeah, and so without missing a beat,
Beze I said how big is your fucking head? And
(40:47):
so she said shut up, shut up. He said no,
he said, take you on, what I want to see
if your heads is big without the helmet. So anyway,
the copper says he you come from Warrington. He said,
yees come from Warrington, and so Boze said, oh yeah,
the yeah I made that, and so you know, he said,
now you go straight through the roundabout and Chippy saying
(41:09):
shut up about his head. And so the copper walks
away and Beze sticks he said that the window and said,
you're still got a fucking big answer.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It's good fight, all right. Bob Fulton a good fighter.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I never saw him fight, but I would imagine, I'll
tell you one thing, he'd never give up. Well, he
would have thought like he played rugby league.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And the boys. One thing for you Blakes, which I
really appreciate, is that they would as a team. You'd
stick tight. So if someone got into one of you blakes,
you got into all this. Yeah, I remember there was
an instance once we played in nine. We played Cronulla
at home. Right now, what had happened Ray going the game? Andrew?
We lost in Origin through the week and Joey had
(41:49):
a particularly poor game. Anyway, one of the selectors had
tipped Chippy off and said, mate, John's Andrew's going to
be dropped and he's right, So that paper runs it
going into that game that day. Anyway, we're going to
the game and Joey in this game has a blinder,
ends up setting up bet four or five tries and
you know, really states his case to remain in the team. Anyway,
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I'm walking into the press conference with Warren Warren Ryan
who actually hated Chippy.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You know, and it was mutual, like I said, it
was mutual.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Mutual and anyway, he said, he do you so favors
stick up for your brother here. Now I didn't know
what was had been on the back paper, and I
certainly didn't know the Chippy wrote it.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
All.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I was saying that the selectors, you know, talking about
dropping and if they dropping their kidding anyway, I said,
you know this anyway, they Warren nudged me and said,
trying to defend your brother and it was all about
Chippy and he goes. I said, yeah, there's all the
reports going around, but Andrew been dropped. Fan if you
saw him today, you know, if anyone wants to drop Joey, mate,
they just done out. They're looking at well as I
(42:51):
walk out, Barry too, who graws me it was a
Newcastle journalist knew Chippy very well, and he said, oh, listen,
you want to be careful. He said, mate, be just
taking that personal and I said, well, no, not having
to go, Chippy, I'm having to go anyway. It was
too late, so for the next seax, I turned on
the Every time I turned on the continuous call. All
(43:11):
I was saying is made seriously. Newcastle are fantastic side,
but they've got to get a decent.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Fucking five a well. To that extent, you work now
occasionally with Buzz and look, I used to have a
fair platform. I was working seven days a week right.
I was doing the talkback show, the talk show Monday
to Friday, and the football so I could square up
with Buzz. I'm now legless. If he attacks me, I've
(43:37):
got unless this podcast I can give him, sir. But
I noticed that Andrew is locked on with bulldog Richie
this ye Jack check. Look Andrew, you're fighting any your
weight division. I pissed myself. Bulldogs are made of mine.
But you know this. I've been riding rugby league for
thirty six years and I'm went for foxake ball. I'll
(43:58):
drop off. I mean, you think paramatter are legalist under
Jason Rowles I disagree with you, by the way. I
think Rolls will be a really good coaching and I
think he's done a pretty good job this year. Joey
thinks like I do. And just because he happen to
mention your name, mate, it's notoriety. It's notoriety. He said
your name. He didn't say you know Bullman Richie or
(44:22):
get your name. He got your name right. So if
you get your name right, it's a fairly large audience.
He's talking to one free to wear, so just cop it.
But Andrew.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Is a character I love about bulldoger this. Someone asked
me about Bulldog recently, and Bulldog write these articles philly
provocative articles on para matta And they said, yeah, what
was behind that? I said, You've got to understand about Bulldog, right,
I said, when Bulldog wrote that story a number of
years ago, during the COVID years, this is the worst
Queensland side ever, right, And they they're going to win
(44:53):
the series. Well, that front page that Bulldog had written
and been proven dramatically and all the coins. Most people
would get that front page of Barrett in their backyard.
Every time he is interviewed via zoom, he sits in
the camera in the background. Not only has he got
the front page, he went and got a fucking frame.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
I did, like, what was the headline, Jack of the
Jack's got it? What's the headline of the article he
rode about Joey. It's like something you don't have to
be an immortal or something.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Don't need an immortal snapping at my heels.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
There's nothing People in Melbourne dont understand that. There's nothing
like a rugby league blue And what you're.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
About to listen to is, as you may have just learned,
Bulldog Richie went after our uncle Joey during the week,
so we decided to play a little prank back on Bulldog.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Enjoy mate, Doggie boy, what mate, I'm in the middle
of a podcast with Joey. Now I've got a bit
of mile that you're going to unleash on three sixty
or something. No, im, mate, you've got to drop off.
He's an immortal. I know you've been capping in the
game for thirty six years, but you've got to.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Drop one of my favorite players of all time.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Well, mate, you wouldn't think so, the way you're right
about him. That was a disgrace what you said about him, mate,
he's a personal made of mine. He's a personal friend
of mine. Okay, well, I don't think so. The way
he's talking about you here, has he bagging me? Well,
I wouldn't say he's being very complimentary?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Okay, he take me first?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Attack you, mate? He's an immortal. Isn't titled attack who
he likes? Aren't your opinion? Well? Mate, yes i am,
But I wouldn't take on an immortal. Ain't they're not
an immortal? No, look, i'd advise you on now, I'm serious.
I'd advise you on three sixty to drop off. Mate.
(46:47):
I'm not going to Well, you're not going to go
on there, So you ship yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
You apologize to me?
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Hang on, hang on, he's here. What do you say, Joe?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
If you want to apologize, sweet, are.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
You gonna apologize?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Apolog Why not?
Speaker 4 (47:02):
It takes a big man bulldog to step back from things. Okay,
you've been doing for thirty six years. It won't be
the first apology you've made me, well, mate, hang on,
hang on, and he might he concede what you want
to do.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I'll apologize. He's apolagy that sorry, mate?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Oh then that's fine.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I'm sorry. Too, we got to move on.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
That was Maddy, by the way, you're on the podcast,
but Jack and Matthew John Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I would not have gone better, well, would I tell you?
Terrific Blake. That's the end of part one, right, that's
time to jump over for part two, which I hope
you enjoy every bit as much I know you will
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