October 12, 2025 • 53 mins
Dylan Walker joins Cooper & Matty for a raw, funny chat about losing his premiership ring, life at Parra, Bozo, Russell Crowe, and NRL culture. From Souths to Manly to the Wahs! and now the Eels.
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0:00-Welcome
3:00-DCE’s Wedding
4:20-Losing Premiership Ring
7:00-Fletcher Christian
8:20-Parramatta Eels
10:00-The Wahs!
19:00-Parramatta Eels
24:00-Road to 300
25:00-Teammates
26:30-Jason Ryles
29:00-South Sydney
32:00-Work Placement
38:30-Api Kososau
41:00-Bozo
43:00-Russell Crowe
46:00-Manly
48:00-NRL Culture
49:45-All-Star Team
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Silver surface.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Look at this Cooper, He's just spoon straight in there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Hey, welcome back, man. Now, I'm pretty sure in our
old place, just around the corner, you come with a
few of the Souse boys once or twice.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah. Yeah, So when I think said the address, I
realized you've gone a few streets over towards the beach.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We become that assholes around the corner.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That that Fox contract. Bro, he's got that. He's got
the upgrade now, so he moves closer to the water.
He will literally be in the ocean soon, like the
Lost City of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But yeah, I mean, I'm not a breath and aster money,
but mate, I'm hohold my own for the good guys.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So what was that for South Sydney Back in the
Day's house.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I think it was a magic that he got all
the halves together. Yeah, we all drove over.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You and you and Luke Carey were the young guys.
First two sessions. Yeah, it was first two sessions. I
was calling Luke. John finally had the gas to say, Mate,
that's actually Luke. It's funny like yourself. Dela was saying
to Cooper when you first came over my first like
a view of you, how you played. You're like really quick, speed, footwork, power,
(01:15):
and you've still got that. But made. The great thing
these days makes your past selection is outstanding. Made, I reckon,
and we'll talk about paramount a second. I reckon made this.
So I've never seen you play better than you at
the moment. Cheers Mane.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I appreciate that. I think when you're young, when I
was coming through, because I played five eight or during
my junior years, and when you can first come to grade,
you don't really understand how the game works. It's a
different game. And I think when I first come through,
I was just that young athletic dude, not too much
of the knowledge where you're thinking that you know, and
(01:48):
then you know they just going over to you years
you sort of just pick everything up from different players coaches.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was going to say, you've nearly played every position,
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think the Warriors boys had a bit
of a running joke over there. I think I started
in the back round last year against and end up
getting spained. But that was the first I think that
was the last position position I had to take off
the list.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So you have you actually played every position?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I think, yeah, played full were are mainly when
Too went down in twenty twenty one and we started horrendous.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I think we had.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Forty put it on us by the roosters and was
consecutive weeks. And then when Tourbo was coming back, I
was supposed to shift back to the centers. And then
as journal asked me saying, oh has he gonna come as, oh, well,
he's not going to be an eighty point ten round player.
And then next week the boys won by thirty four. Yeah,
he's not back and it's winter. Yeah, it was a
(02:49):
bit of a laugh and joke.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You warned it up for him, though you warned that.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I sort of warmed it up. We'll talk about a
little bit later on his house man. You play good
players still, yeah, yeah, awesome, some of the best players
in the modern era. Quite incredible every position. God, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Utility plus Yeah, not very good in something, but had
a crack mate.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, Dylan, were you were your chess's wedding wedding Because
we keep honestly, it's not a week goes past and
I continue to get reports about my about dear son
he's empt duties. Were you in the firing line of all? No, no, no,
he left me alone.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I left left me me and walked some mutual respect.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But I was at the back of the table so you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Couldn't see me. So put me in the bleachers.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's where you know you stand in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
With the mate, where you are in the wedding.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, yeah, but that that was a good job you did.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Bro, Thanks Dan. That was good.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It was not much not much backlash from it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
A little bit, a little bit of backlash.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I would say, You've got a little bit in the
gossip column, someone saying when they're talking about d C's
relationship with Sieves, they keep bringing it up he wasn't
invited to the wedding.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Part of the jo I kept referencing that, like when
the whole contract stuff was going on with chairs this year.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
They just kept referencing it, like, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It was like I was watching three sixty one time
when Bazz was going, you know, and obviously seems wasn't
at the wedding, and I was like, oh, I keep
I kept getting dragged into this year.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Look I was reading as well.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Earlier Tailor May lost his twenty twenty one premiership ring.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And it got me thinking, Walks.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I thought, who would be you know, silly enough to
lose their premiership ring? But of course you lost your
as well off.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The back of the boat. Yeah, the back of the boat.
It was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It was a funny one that one. I remember. We
know this was happening. I was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I told everyone was a chicken wing because I was.
I was young at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I was like, yeah, I was having a chicken.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wing, but look old enough now I'm snakes.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I was having a Darry.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I was having a d and then I was with
one of my best mates, Aaron Gray, and I went
back to the bay.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We're just sort of looking at how good this?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And then I said, watch how fucking flict this this
Darry and went boll and flicked it and the rings
just slip off. I broke down. It was the worst moment.
It was so high the rollercoaster of rugby league was
like he and it just dipped straight down.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's bad Monday for you, ruined, but it was it
was worse.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We went to I think the Golden Chief and the
Roosters boys had their awards night and I remember seeing
PC we had a little argieba with PC in the
prelium and then he goes, oh, what happened to your ring?
Because it broke and it sort of breaked down, But
then we were budded on and it just had a
good time, good life.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Same thing happened to me week after the Grand Final.
I'm driving along in the car and I'll go right
and you know, I look, I don't condone littering people
into a into a tissue, wound down the window, threw
it out and my Grand Final ring went with it,
just added bouncing down the road. Luckily we reversed up
(06:03):
and found it after about an hour like that sinking
feeling did.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Ever, they never resurfaced. But there's another one that popped
up somewhere in some drug dens they raided.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It was one of those guys who were tattoos. Big
guys were bids that ride motorbikes in groups. What do
you call them?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
BMX They're like a scooter game electric by gang.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I remember the reading that as well.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That was very's not sure who else lost their ring
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They brought him a few.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Of us in question and they had to know where
my ring actually went and yeah, so I was like.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, I gave it to my brothers, my life before
we just shift onto football. I have to ask you this.
I always want to ask you this question because you
pick Ken Island. Ye, you were descended and Fletcher Christian.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes, yeah, I think he's like the or fourth grade.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's pretty crazy. I think when because I grew up
with my mum she told stories. But yeah, I didn't
realize until I was a little bit older that knowing
that becomes a rich history top of islands.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So it's amazing. You boys seen the mutnany on the Bounty.
So Fletcher Christian is played by mel Gibson. It's a
historical thing in the late eighteenth century and what they did,
Captain William Bly he set up, you know, to basically
travel the world around the Pacific and everything and made
it was pretty treacherous on there. There was guys who
had scurvy and everything. And suddenly they arrive in around
(07:39):
Tahooa and the Sandwich Islands and pitt Can Island and
they get off and his paradise. There's beautiful women, food
and everything, and then Captain blog goes right out. We've
had our three months here, let's go back on the boat.
And they just went, no, we're not going, We're not leaving,
and they and they stayed. It was like there the mutiny.
So there's a movie. So and the hero of the
movie played by Milks and as Fletcher Christian and his
(08:01):
descent and dlens are descended on. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Have you ever spoke to reach out to Mel Gibson?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean him actually quite tight.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You wanted me to start in some movie soon, political news.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He listens to the potty, so yeah, we'll get him on.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He loves Yeah. How did the move come about?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, I was going to re sign with the Warriors
for one more year, and I just had a deep
feeling in myself because my kids have moved back here
and I was just there by myself. And then after
one of the games, it just felt like a sense
of no one, It's time to get back and be.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Around the kids.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
They just started football just for Beacon Hill Bears. So yeah,
so the local team and me and me and I
just thought I had to get back and just set
my life back up over here and just ground it
again and then just be around them because there's mid year, right, Yeah,
I think it was in April. Yeah, yeah, it was
like three weeks in with the Warriors when in the
(09:01):
Vegas come back, played against the Roosters, and then yeah,
the deal was done with deals.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How is it received by the Warriors because you're a
big part of their squad.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, they just lost a lot of players there before.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It was a bit of a shock, but all the
boys knew the situation where I was just over there
by myself the year before, and they sort of all
understood like the big the big dogs there with Mitch
Barnett real close with and a lot of other guys left.
So you sort of seen all the young talent coming
through with Demitrick by among Yeah, like just unbelievable talent,
(09:39):
and I just thought it's it's the right time for
me to go. And I wasn't holding them back, but
it just would have given them more of an opportunity
to get more minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Have you seen like did you play with her in
that Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, I played a few games with because he
played I think he played this year. One game I
know definitely I played with in the Rooster's game, And
you can just see it from afar how special he was.
He's just an athletic things. He's fresh, he's a fresh kid,
but he's just he's fully wearness. The footy smarts, the
(10:12):
footy brain like he just got it a little bit.
Him and demetric, and just the way they moved in
defense and how they read the plays defensively, you can
just tell that the attack and they were just going
to become regular. First.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It seems like it's always been hard for the Warriors
to like bring through their own junior talent because they
lose so much to Rugby Union. And now it seems
like now a lot of them, a lot of young
guys want to play for the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well they've done a mad job over there, Warriors where
Union is the big pinnacle over there, and everyone wants
to play for the All Blacks. But the way how
we went in twenty twenty one, you could just see
the big shift and yeah, and you when you're getting
around there, people were just going like they leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Jabot, good game. It's just that. But just the way
how they.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Market the franchise and how they get around and make
people come to the games was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You see, Yeah, they used the early years coops up
until the All Blacks and New Zealand Ruby Union really
changed their system to try to count of the Warriors
because you had guys. When the under twenties, when Holden
Cup was being televised live, all some of the All
Blacks best juniors were being onder all the Warriors to
go in there and and the All Blacks changed the
policy which kept a lot of the good kids away.
(11:25):
But the emergence of the Wars like hell to see it.
From the moment you sawing, it's like you got that
big center of balance and that triscooed against the Knights
that completely break the spirit of the Knights players. That
was incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I think I remember his first his first game,
he played the Bulldogs and he breake through. He almost
s goed the man, it's good for us against the
Bulldogs last year and just seeing him from there, this
kid's going to be special.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
In the junior ranks one I think the se Ball
Player of the year a year younger and just he
was just a boy playing football then and then he
played Cup and then he made men look silly.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
He scored two tries in one of his first games
and just ran over.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
A bit, Dylan, the emergence of the wist phenomenon, you know,
because you often see an organization catch fire when they
win a Grand Final some of that. But you know
post COVID what what I mean, what happened suddenly for
the team just to just explode and the fan base
and everything.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I think when Wherebe come over from the Panthers,
he brought that system with him, and I think we
would all know that the systems high completions, possessions a
big thing over there, and where you leave teams in
the corner inside their twenty, if you can land the
kick in there and just get out there and have
your discipline right. He's sort of really done the game
(12:45):
down for a lot of us and made it a
lot easier and cleary game to be, Like, Okay, we're big,
powerful boys with all the young guys coming through. If
we can just roll, find momentum and play the cues,
then shown he can put it in the corner kick
and then you get them. Making two or three tackles
from marker sort of saves a lot of juice. Yeah,
(13:06):
do less, But if you're in the middle like me,
now I'm like I'm doing more than want to be
back out. But yeah, he just sort of done the
game down for the whole, for the whole organization and
I most boys from the post COVID day, it was
just a good sense of feeling being back home.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do you think it was like the fact that that
the that the team was the sporer went across and
living in Australia for so long and coming back it
was almost like a welcming but you don't realize what
you've got intil it's not there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, it was just a blank canvas, let's start fresh,
new coach, lots of new people coming in and everyone
sort of just felt like, okay, this is where we
can rewrite the story. So where we made that very
clear and everyone wanted to start fresh and just earn everything.
And it started in that preseason where everyone was ripping in.
(13:57):
Shawnee had one of his best preseasons from what the
boys are telling us, and then he almost comes out
wins dam.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah. The culture of the New Zealand side the Warrior
is how different is it to the Australian clubs? Is
there a difference you find? Yeah, I find it's a
funny one. A lot of people ask me about all
the younger guys.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're very respectful in a way. It's not saying that
they're not respectful here, but there's more of an ego
with the younger kids over here. Yeah, and you get
you get across and you can tell it, you know what.
I looking back at it now. When you're a young
kid in Australia you only know Rugua League in the NRL.
You can become a star playing through the under twenties,
(14:35):
just like when Benny Barber. Like everyone I knew Benny
Baba when he was playing under twenties with blonde streaks.
And I think over there because it's so dominated by
the Union, but the kids over there, how they're raised
and the culture in itself, it's very respectful.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's not you know, you're the young one, stay quiet.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's very much like will follow until it's right, and
you've just got to get the right people in the
right places, making the right decisions and showing you know,
how to be men in a game.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Because by nature, like a lot of the Polynesian cultures,
they're very quiet and like particularly like team meetings and stuff,
they won't really speak up because of those older boys
in the room who they feel like, out of respect,
they should be the ones talking.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is I like that the worries?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Nah, Well it was very because you know Harris, like
he's one of the most reserved dudes I've met, but
he's got this character about him where he allows other
people to speak up, He leans on other people to
come in and speak about in the group and having
that culture, and I think when you've got guys like that,
you've sort of got to know how to play or
(15:42):
how to speak to get them to come out of
their comfort zone. And having leaders like that where they're
not direct, harsh or anything like that, at showing culture
where you can be a little bit more reserved but
allow them to come through and feel that leadership. Well, yeah,
he was a real big, you know, pinnacle, like what's
called a pillar. And the success for the.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Warriors such an important thing, isn't it, Like, you know,
for young guys to feel comfortable in a room, to
be able to have their say respectfully of course, but
you know, as opposed to some coaches basically hit up
there the election and just say basically stand away, say
what you know, shut your mouths.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Is the training tough over there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, Ballan Couples.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I don't know if you do. You know anyone know
Batan Couples.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, he could follow real good dude. Yeah,
training is tough.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's always tough, tough everywhere. It's tough everywhere wherever you go.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But it was the thing about wherever it was, we
did a lot of running. But once that December kicked up,
when we come after Christmas, it was just awfootball and
that was his regime of wanting to get the best
out of the team. It's just we just used to
do Heber arm wrestles, you know, arm wrestles. And that's
fine because you can come to the train and go like,
(16:57):
I'm not doing one, this's running. I'm actually doing something
that's going to go help me go into the game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So applicably, had lots of fun, applicable information you're working on.
Marino does the same with soccer. They reckon when when
they went when he first went to Chelsea, they turned
up and the players had their running shoes. He said,
you won't need those, just bring your boots. Yeah. Yeah.
Just playing five on five games skill based, as you said,
makes it fun. Yeah, as opposed to just putting the
blinkers on a run four hundred meters.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. When you're doing that, it's.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, you know what, you know what, it's rank and
you know what's funny, like the amount of boys and
this is this happens from like under sixteens Harrold Matthews
right up until NRL. There are some players who are
that good at like that that mental tough running, like
long distance you're doing like four hundred meters sprints or
(17:44):
things like that. They could be the fittest in the
whole group. But then you put them in a drill
like a ten minute arm wrestle where you're playing a
game consistently back and forth for ten minutes, simulating a
game speed, and they're the worst fitness of them are.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's such different.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Look at still running the person of the rower. You
get some guys that would come last in the running,
but put them on the rower because there's six foot
six foot four and you know, and all of a
sudden they just tearing the thing apart.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What's that the train like Jane, Yeah, yeah, there's all
those ones, but the first and the only person I've
ever seen that trains like Jane but plays like tars In.
It's really bangers, mate. I love him to death. Me
and him are tight, We're pretty close. But I've never
seen the bloke as a leader.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Go like, all right, but he used to.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Just come to training Sometimes I'm like, what are you
doing here? Do you want to be here? And then
you come out and make fifty tackles, run for two
and fifty and I'm like, all right, I love this
guy a bit more.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You get those red blokes.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, there are so many.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Idal on like like you. Me and he have spoken
about this a few times on our Sunday and Night chower.
My paramrit started, Mate, that what I really felt for
Roles because you haven't got you haven't got Mitch. You've
got all the uncertainty around Dylan Brown. Mate, they're getting
getting hammered. I reckon. Everything changed in that football side
(19:06):
against Saint George, that day against the Dragons when you
come on into that middle. From the moment you come on, mate,
everything started to fall into place, like did you did
you feel that yourself? That was let me ask that
different way to actually be more? How good? How good
does it feel to be the club where you are
like one of the central leaders.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I think it's when I first come over and
sort of join the team. Everyone's welcoming, but you've sort
of almost got to like the ego, the healthy ego.
I had to come in and be like, you prove
yourself a little bit, but then it's you talk, your actions,
you lead, and then when you come on in the field,
all I wanted to do was like, no matter what
happened on the day, I wanted to win.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Be that that got not the guy to be like
oh because of me, But I just wanted to go like, Okay,
I'm like I'm here for business.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And when it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Sort of happened and sort of going into that game,
it's sort of they didn't they had that thirteen role
that ball playing thirteen like we got good. But I
just knew that if we got there and had to
play in a certain style that it was almost going
to help everyone around us. With the full back Isaiah Yoga,
who's honestly he's going to be He's.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Going to be a great player, like a slater top. Yeah,
Like he's just so diligent.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
He's he's got that footy brain where he can read
the play, but then he's also he's a good kid,
you know what I mean, that's even better, and he's he's.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
A humble kid.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
He goes about his business and I like what he does.
But it's sort of just unlocks everyone that was out
there with the fox Dell Brown, and once that sort
of happened, it just made it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
A lot easier for us. He's it's not like talking
about you. Jack shaded me one morning when he's played mainly.
He said, Jason, come have a look at this, and
we used it on the shower and it was He's
kicked long down field. He led the kick chase, he
hit turbo almost on impact. Then he made two from
marker and then he turned around. Most people would tell
(21:02):
they're going to go for forty twenty, he'd tell the
wing to go back, but he turns around, he sprints back,
they go for the forty twenty. He catches it on
the fall, just charges in like that that forty seconds.
What he did there, I just went, mate. He's tough,
he's got great tactical awareness, and he's skillful.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think you can't teach
that or coach that. But he sort of what I
love how Rosie is. He hasn't diverted from his plan
at one bit. He stuck strong to what he beleds
is going to work. And he always says that whoever's
if you're in that position to do this, like the
Mark Attucky, you said, you've got to do it. And
(21:39):
then so he's done that a fair few times and
it sort of helps everybody, and then he gets back
to position and he's saving forty twenties or catch the
ball in the fall and bringing it back and then
taking the play three carry in. Honestly, that kid's going
to be a special special.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You can tell like that it's he's come from obviously
come from Panrith. But he follows a bloke like, oh seriously,
there are that many people coming out of here. But
he follows a player like Dylan Edwards, and you can
see that, like young, he's got that much talent. He
probably doesn't need to have a work ethic like he does.
But he's based so much of his game off effort. Yeah,
(22:16):
like plays like that where fullbacks aren't expected to make
two tackles from marker and then get back and stop
at forty twenty. But he gets that from a player
that he's followed like Dylan Edwards who's been doing that
his whole career as well.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's right, Yeah, the bloke ahead of him then you
know he's smart kid. He can watch what he does.
And yet take that away to a bloke who deserves
a rap, Dylan and you know he's going to my
old club, Dylan Brown. A lot was going on at
the time. And the money they're offering, I mean, look,
you can't knock that back. Is he worth the not
Let's just not go there. Who knows he might turn
out to be. But the way he's conducted himself while
(22:48):
he's remained at your club, not many blokes will be
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Ye undred percent. Yeah. I think we've all been in
a position where he's seen boys throw the toys out
of the cot gun stuff this some mew.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
To his credit, he's he's rocked up every day, hasn't
put a foot wrong. Is he worth it or whatnot?
It doesn't matter. Like he's doing the best decision that's
based for his family, and that's what's been presented. And
let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Who would say I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I do not understand why he cops criticism because you
go the things I would do for that sort of money,
I would do some disgusting I would.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I would do things that I would not say in
front of my family.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I would dive naked in Sydney Harbor and fish out
Dylan Walker's premiershire.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's good off the cut that I like that, I
do that.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
He congratulations on two fifty as well.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Holy Ship wracked up some games.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, it's it's been a good career, be very tould.
But I wouldn't change it for the world.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Road to three hundred, let's get behind.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's only been about fifty Look at it the other
day when Chez and Benny Hunt played there three undre
It's only been about fifty five fifty players that have
played three undred game.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Incredible. I think might have been Terry Limb might have
been the first one anyone. Nonetheless, I'm talking ancient times here.
You know, a little hint that some of the boys
are going to have a good seasons. Trisha and I
are up at at Ballina. What we're doing up there
have done neither was really cone heads, but anyway, nonetheless
we are. We've got that and I'm coming through and
(24:34):
Paramatta had played a troll game the day before. Of course,
at this point you're still at Warriors, and we came
through the airport and it was the young Pacific Oland
fellow there come up to me and said, maybe a
little while ago we had paramedic come through. He goes, fuck,
he said, I reckon Junior has lost twenty kilos. He said.
He looked at how good has he gone?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I think when everyone saw it from the start
of the season, because you don't see the boys or
see anyone outside of until round one basic. But yeah,
he's in good, Nick, very good Nick. He's I think
he dropped fifteen kegs. It's just coming back from that preseason.
I think. I don't know what happened. I haven't gone
to deep with that with him. But he's good on
(25:14):
his diet. He's changed that up. He goes for late
walks that night every night, like a bit of a routine,
just to you know, just.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Get that health.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
How late.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, he's not a good sleep, not a good sleeper.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's got his he's got his dog. He goes.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He goes walking on the way trips. When we went
up to when the first one I seen him walking
at eight thirty. You get I just went for a walk,
and he said that he was talking to all the
locals up there clear on the head.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was up in Darwin earlier this year. Eight thirty
at night.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You wouldn't want to be walking around the street to
Darwin gets kind of dangerous.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You should be Okay, Foxy, What what a season fox
has had? Yeah, he's been. Man, I'm unbelievable. Like it's
similar to you, like when we had him Urler in
the year in the podcast, you could just see how
happy he was, Like, which comes back to my original point.
You just see something in that paramount aside, it's the
way he's played, the enthusiasm. You can see you're enjoying
(26:10):
your attack. Just looks like a happy team. Yeah, how
important that is.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, it's the environment, the way that the coaches, even
the boys. The boys, it's like back in the old
school days where the boys are putting it on each
other or they've got the wheel out if you're late,
you've got to do this, like all the fun stuff
and I haven't had it for the last few years.
But just the way that Rosie Brownie semi male all
this season, coaches, how to make football relevant to what
(26:35):
we're actually doing during that week. It's not just God,
we're doing this where everything's got a purpose to it
and when you're coming into training. The best thing about
it is Rosie says he uses footy brain a lot.
And it's not like a black or white system where
I've had Dassi wears it's black or white. You've got
a gym, you've got to do this. It's just like
so systematically where he's like, back yourself to make your
(26:57):
fullty decision with your brain.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And that's for I love. And as soon as I sort.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Of clicked onto it, I was like, oh, I love
that it's in that gray area where you're allowed to
make the decision. If it's based on you, not so much.
If this person he's inside shoulder, you've got to go.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, your instinct.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I love that, Dylan. I love that. I frustrates the
shit out to me watching outside backs and the and
the wingers outside the center, and the winger obviously knows
the center has made a dud decision, but he just
jumps in the fire as well. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
use your use your use a bit of instinct to
know how to solve that. Yeah, and that's what Rosie,
that's all he backs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He's just used your footy brain and the way that
fox he's played this year, you can tell he's been
He's real happy, he said over the Dogs. He he
said it was hard training, but he just he enjoys
just been around this group, like it's a good group.
Everyone's close with each other, always catch off coffees or
going out for breakfast in the mornings the day before
(27:54):
the game, and it's just getting getting around the boys.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Which is a finish the year striking going in to
obviously the year. The start of the year was pretty
like poor and it was probably wrote wrote finals off
quite early. But the way he's have finished, given all
the turnover of players, people are leaving. What you guys
have done on the field without having like Dylan Brown
out there, this must be pretty excited going into twenty
(28:17):
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, undreds, and I think we've had that many injuries,
Like miss has been out for a while, he comes
in for a few weeks and he's back out turnover players.
He's bleeding a lot of young guys and clubs sort
of they need those years to sort of blood it
so you can get that continuity within each other, especially
with the young guys and who you bring in and
(28:40):
the way that the young guys have gone about it,
and it's been so consistent to finally again results on
the football field and seeing that, okay, our belong is
only going to be a massive help going forward into
next year. And we've all spoken about how finishing the
you know, the year strong is going to help us.
But it's just within the games. When we lost in
Melbourne a few weeks ago, top of the table Melbourne
(29:04):
side typically are pretty hard and we had I think
Dean Hawkins in the seven and Joe ash at the
six or one of them too. But just seeing the
confidence that the boys got with going close with the team,
that's that powerful, you sort of Our football has just
been building for the past month or two and going
(29:24):
into the end of the season now where we're winning games,
people are starting to believe that the first grade is now.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You just mentioned Dean Hawks got a better kick, better
touch on the ball he's kicking.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
How weird is his ball drop?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah? I find it weird.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
If you ever, if.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
People are listening, if you ever watch Dean Hawkins kick
the ball he drops it in the most unorthodox way. Yeah, yeah,
he like flips it like he flips it on such ones.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I said, maybe you sound like hit the ball better
than that he has made. It's terrible. Look at the drops.
Who gives a fuck? Yeah he's a Souse sinning boy,
and like you're part of that team deal in that
great club. It's when it's first comps is ninety seventy one,
Like if you go down Redfern Now, like I know,
whenever you've played a club, you have bonds. But South supporters,
(30:16):
how do they treat treat you? Nah, they're good.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I actually went down to the Logo a Grade Grand
final last weekend and you see some heads that you
haven't seen hope not to see again. Some people just
haven't changed. But it's been good. The South fans they
always gonna say I liked you better at Souse and
I go, mate, that's a different lifetime. I go for me,
it was like ten years ago. But no, everyone's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What about those bikes we look back at that time
like g Iron Sam, Yeah yeah, what did you learn
from those blikes? Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Semi was probably the best leader of men where you're
like I walk through fire with his Blake Jack says, Yeah,
he was one of those guys where I don't know,
he's just had this thing where it's just like he's
outphae like if there was that, I don't even know
how to explain an a about him.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, it's just the the aora about him.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You knew he was going to turn up each and
every week. He was one that you're like, I'm going
to follow these guys. G I was just he was
He was a freak. He was everyone's favorite player growing up.
He was just always set back your ability. But yeah,
I think Sammi there even John Sudden to an extent
where because he's just the local boy where you sort
of can connect with him as I was a bit
(31:35):
of a yeah wrap back in Cison around the streets,
just cruise, cruising along just but yeah, yeah I connected
with pretty good and then but yeah, Sammy was the
one where everyone just looked towards when you needed something.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
What's it like like when you go in and debut
on that side and you've got those leaders where you're
like your first interaction with him when you first go
into full time at NRAL, you're pretty intimidated.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I was only on back then because they didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Have the top thirty, but they used to bring kids
in and I was straight out of high school doing
my first preseason and I was only supposed to go
to the Christmas break. But then Madge obviously liked what
he saw and he said, I want you to come back.
And then back then I was only getting five hundred
bucks a month on the twenties contract. All the kids
now getting thousand a week. But yeah, daunting I remember.
(32:28):
I think the first training session the older boys went back.
We had the work week for two weeks. Madge boy see.
I think it was the Melbourne type situation where you
had to appreciate your job, and so we were on
the job site for two weeks. Go do ways in
the morning, do that, come back an afternoon, get flogged.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That sucks.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I actually had a pretty good gig. I was out
at Mossman. We're just I think we're clearing out these
blokes trees and bushes. But then we would have a
break and kick the feed up because he would have
to go all the way to the tip and then
so then we couldn't do any work until he got back.
And I did that for two days, and then I
found a ship job because one of the boys had
to pull out down Alexandria brick laying, so we had
to stack bricks for the all the boys there just
(33:12):
paving the way, seeing Blake smack about two packets a
day easy.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
He was up there just because we were stacking the
bricks for him.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So he was just he's backing up and if he
landed down, U be stacking the bricks and he has thanks,
and then he come back here, Thanks Chimpy. It was
all these funny little things, but it was good. It
was a good experience. It was something that you got
you look back on and you go, all right, I've
done my done my beat.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Did you have a partner without doing it?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It was me and nuppy chorus. Oh yeah, so mean
they caught a sleeping on the and he goes, you're
not going to get fired doing that boys.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, sweet Blake said the same thing to me.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I remember.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It was me and Harry Grant.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
We were doing like plumbing out of pre slabs with
lay the concrete when you go through all the pipes
to make sure they weren't cracked, and Harry was like
he'd already done one year out of school as an apprentice.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'd come straight out of school.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And let's be honest, Dylan probably had been silver Spoon
for a lot of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
So back then my work ethic probably wasn't where.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I wouldn't believe it, mate, I wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And the bloke just went after me, did not leave
me alone, like just wrapping Harry all the time being
like like you you'll play.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
He was bagging Dad and Joey a lot. At one stage,
asked Harry, I remember the day it was.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It was a Thursday, and I and he made me
go and shovel while him and Harry were eating sandwiches.
And then I was shoveling and he goes, you're just
like your your dad and uncle like ship on it,
like ship work ethic and all this like start hammering
you guys and I and this spokes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
From Melbourne respectfully to him. He had no idea. You
wouldn't have had.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Any idea what you en Joey were like a players.
And I said, mate, you wouldn't know the first thing
about regular.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
For our new listeners, you've got to tell him the story.
There's a reason why he doesn't like you.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh yeah, okay, so there's a backstory to it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
But respectfully, respectfully, to me, this was a This was
literally after that day. I was assuming so much that
I decided to get back at him because he had
an apprentice with him who was actually with him full time,
and he gave us some inside knowledge about so you know,
like domain and those those things that are like they'll
they'll build mass houses all at once. So he was
(35:30):
trying to get work with like one of those trying
to get the contract, trying to get the contract, and
his apprentice told me and Harry, and Harry goes, oh,
we should get him, because he goes, you two got
this running thing.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
We should we should fucking get him. Yes, sweet.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
So I've texted him off my number because he didn't
have my number, and I said, may, I'm trying to
remember what the company is called. Let's call it. Let's
call it painting. You know, mate, I'm Cooper from Painting.
He mate, we've been reviewing your application to take on
the contract.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's looking really good.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
We'd love to chat with you more when you get
a chance about going forward and setting up a deal
and a contract, so you can take on a lot
of our work.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Anyway, I send it to him.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We're at hungry Jack's at like a twin servo at
a highway and I'm watching him read the message, and
then he goes outside.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He's on the blower and we're laughing, and they go like,
what's he thinking? What's he thinking?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Little did we know he'd rang his wife and he
was going, how good is this? Like we've got this
big contract. I didn't know how much it was going
to be worth. It was a substantial amount that he
thought he was about to get. He was hyping his
wife up, gone how good is this? Would changing life and
all this shit. So the then he ring. Then he
rings like his main contact at the place, and the
(36:44):
guy goes. He goes, man, I just got the text
from things like how do you want to do this?
And he goes, well, what number did you get it?
Off sends it to the guy. He goes, I don't
recognize this number, but leave it with me. I will
just see who sent you that text. They put it
through the system. It was no one employed by that company.
Comes back in the U and we're all sitting there
about to get to this job site and like Dandy
(37:05):
Nong ages away in Melbourne, and I'm sitting there and
I'm in the middle of the back seat and I'm
looking at him, and he's frustrated. And then via the
bluetooth he rings the number and I'm in the back
seat and my ringer was on and my ringing just
sads going and he goes, I still remember he's driving,
and he goes, he's looking in the rear view mirror
and and I'm just sitting there, just holding my phone,
(37:27):
staring straight at him, and he goes, is that you?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Is that that you?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Is it? You? Little fuck pulls over on the side
of the road, just turns back and just gives me
and Harry a biggert spray. Even turned on Harry, who
he was like his fucking produg and he goes, you
will never play in the NRL because he was supposed
to put a report through to Craig Bellamy on how
we how we went individually, and he was like, belly
A will fucking hear about this, he will hear about
(37:51):
what little fucking smartest.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Is, how shit you've been working.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
And then me and Harry were stressing Harry's gone, You've
fucking ruined my career. I'm that sorry, Harry, like they're
still hopefully yeah, thank god. He just I think after
the day or two, I think the apprentice fest up.
So I told him because he didn't have the report
was actually quite flattering to both of us. But like
we would have been, like he probably would have piece, it's.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Got a little bit of respect, Like it's a good get.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, you know, it's a good get.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
At what point did like, Okay, they got me, They've
gotta be.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Pretty I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
He worked quick, diligent, calling up his wife, calling up.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Working quick. That's when you know I.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Was actually I was stressing for weeks.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
When did you live with Abby?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh? Yeah we did down there, I think right across
the road from the server at seven eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I saw he's in there once.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, well let's just keep it.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, just buying some smokes.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Are you still made with Appy?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Still, yeah, very close.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I caught up with him a few weeks ago at
my kid's birthday party, and yeah, just touch base here
and there, played golf here and there.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, legend one of.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The good blokes, because she's win that.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You are both quite young when you win that Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It south together, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a funny story
though one actually with us because when I was actually
got suspended, it was obviously pretty heartbreaking for Bully and
he was he was guarded, but yeah, he didn't drop
the limb. But Uppy was going to Penrith. He got
signed for I think like a two or three year
deal have at Penrith Fly because he was going real
good at the house and boys loved him at the house.
(39:38):
And I remember he was rolling in for the last
four or five weeks of training, but you could just
tell it he was on a bender. He was he
was walking up and down the Red Fern look going
on the train and he'd be coming back and he'd
be like, dust, what do you.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Do on the weekend? He goes, No, I went out
and with the boys on the weekend. You're good on
your mate.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Anyway, he gets the he gets the car color. Maybe
we're going to need you for the gf these blaken
like I wouldn't say rats, but he's.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Been partying every weekend.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
And then he's like, okay, he turned into Superman like
that Grand Final, like everyone goes on notice, but he
fucking played awesome in that game, like if people want
to rewatch it back like I think he was. That
was his first year of grade too, and he come
in and didn't look at the place and he just.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I didn't even I didn't even realize that he'd only
got caught up for the Grand Fire.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, he got caught up late because I was like, Luke,
I think he got done for a lifting tackle and
Sonny Bill Williams, that's right.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, and then Sunny.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Bill Williams come out and said, nah, like it wasn't
there was no malice towards it, but obviously got suspended.
And then yeah he got the call up and the
week of the Grand fine, man.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That's heavy.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, that's heavy, getting suspended for a grand Yeah, it's gotten.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
It's got a heart break. That's did you you'll move
to Mainly? Was that through Bob Fulton? Yeah, that was yeah,
through Yeah, the late great Bob. Yeah. Now don't gonna
I'm rely on you're honesty. When I once in the
early nineties negotiated with I was like, yeah, Mane with
the Kangaroo tal coming up next week, and man, look.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
If you you know, if you if you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Play for Manly let's just say that one of the
blokes you're competing against in the six Jersey might have
a bad groin or might have a codding. I didn't
sign with Manly and I didn't get what about like
those It could be very persuasive, very persuasive.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I think that's the only reason I've got the gig
in the New South Wales.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Jersey because I was playing dog shit. I was playing
dog shit.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I remember because when we're signing mate on the top
of the border at the Blues, we can get you
in the Blues. And I was sort of eighteenth man,
but I was like, oh, yeah, maybe this is my
way into the Blues and very persuasive. Man, good fellow,
good man. And then had so many different phone numbers
come up on my phone and it's the same bloke
(42:00):
behind it, multiple phones, multiple phone numbers.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Could even.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
There was Journa, there was Jono that was having a
blue at the time with Boseil and he just goes, Mate,
he had just completely rattled him. He'd be going, he said,
he'd be having on the phone, give it to him
and you go hang on a second. Then Bozo would
pick up having Yeah, we're talking talking on the phone
to somebody else. Go mate, anyway, I've got this bloke
(42:27):
on the other on the other phone, hang on a second,
then straight back into him, he said, mate, it was
he said, mate, he learned, he said, mate, don't funk.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
With Yeah, I've never met it like a powerful person
like I Sea the power Brokers. Everyone knew it was
Russell Crave. But when I got to me and me
and Bozo was the one running the ship. Yeah, just
how much power and poor that he had within and
a roll with itself?
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, and manly.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, I wonder if he because when you have you
ever done that prank where you're ring two Chinese restaurants?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Do you know that one?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And then you put it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
You go hang on want to say hang on to
and then you put him on the phone together and
they go what do you want?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
And they argue on the phone.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I wonder if did that Mayes?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
What about Russell? Mate?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah? No, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
The lucky ones and a lot of big dogs in
the Yeah, there's a lot of big dogs.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I was. I was.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I was a new coming in but yeah, I had
some just normal conversations, but yeah, yeah, not too much.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
To do with him, to be honest, a roll and anything.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I got ahead for a radio mate, Did.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You ever go like, what's it called quad biking?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
That was?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
That was my first season that mainly yeah, I left.
So when when the boys went up and had their
little pre season camp up, there were up in Coffs
as well at the same time. And when I was
coming home, look, he caused me up, what's happened?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
And then he started plying up and then he told
me the whole story about him and Russell Crowe and
then I was like, oh that ship bro. Sorry to
he like, there's anything you need let me know, because yeah,
no worries. And then after that year he I think
he was still there for one year and then Semi
Burgess had his wedding. I forgot where it was, but
Russell Craig got up and spoke, and me and Kiri
(44:12):
were blind. We're playing these silly games through all the boys,
like whoever took you know, the handkerchief and someone he
had to scald the drink, but Luke Key was blind.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It was maggot.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
And Russell Craig got up in city speech and then
after he spoke, everyone sort of clapped and he stood up.
He stood up, he kicked.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
His chair backwards.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Because he's yeah, yeah, good, good bloke.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Because then he went the Roosters after that he was
playing that good at the Roosters too.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Should have been a lifelong Souse player, yeah, should have
been one grand mate won a Grand final then? How
he won three grand finals? Flu?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah he won one of the bunnies into the trucks.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah man medal. Oh yeah, he's over in Catalana at
the moment. The English Super League, fear to say by
his comments last month and not a big fan, that's
all right.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, apparently he was getting booed and stuff and people.
That's what I think. I've seen leam night cruising around
that river.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Beach the other day night, across the road yesterday. He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, okay, he was on the phone.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Maddie here he goes. I look at it, man, is
he is she really going out with him?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Nies? I reckon, I rate ninety.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Is a good looking fella, of course, and he's in
a like he's got a good he's always had.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
But you know he's a confident person, real confident.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
He's got a quirky very.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Quirky on the side another day.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Of all the clubs you've played that, actually, let's go
to Manly for a sec because you had such a good,
such a good crewd Mound. You're still mates with a
lot of the boys there, Chairs and all those lads
of all the clubs excluding Eels, because you're there. Now,
what do what do you have your fondest memories from?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, many, Mammy, He's probably I've spent I think seven
to eight years here, so yeah, I grew some good
relationships with the boys, some good nights, some some fun times.
But forty cents I learned a lot of Chairs and
Turbo one hundred percent. Those two were probably the two
(46:31):
football IQ guys that played with in a sense of
knowing the game and what cues. But as good as
they are on the field, off the field, yeah they
go pretty good. They go pretty hard as well.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
They're pretty well the years that you were there, I
think it was the next level of like work hard,
play hard, like the.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Boys would like.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
When I was at Manly it was a little bit less,
sort of post COVID. I think everyone kind of slowed
right out and at the time Turbo had stopped really
drinking because.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You're talking about Yeah, okay, so when I was at
the house, it was very professional, like I was strict,
as I wouldn't say strict, but I was like on
the straight and narrow, like Madge poured us in the
line pretty quick and no drinking here, no drinking.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I've got the meaning.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I turned into a pi sead, full blown pie.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I think it was all good spirits.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No one's got in trouble by training.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, yeah, so well, yeah, it was the old score
of just come in. If you get a party, you
get to train hard. And yeah, that's what's.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
It come from that they come from that culture of
that premiership winning side like the Stewart brothers Chuck who
they all ripped in so hard on the field, and
then they got connected away from it by having drink ups.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, like it was just the way I understand. I
understand health wise. But what you find is people a
lot of times just because the team might have bit
of drinking culture and have a great time, it doesn't
mean they're off the rails. What it is a lot
of times is people who are off the rails. Oftentimes
we'll get on the booze a lot of times, but
a lot of times it's a social thing. If you
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can continually square the ledger, then you know, within reason, Yeah,
it's okay with reason. Yeah, houses we're talking about appy
o night, we're talking about Fletcher. I will go, mate,
do you have a beer? And that then he goes
an't any the boys do? After game? It was happy happy,
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So yeah, he switched real quick.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
He used to be one of the looser ones. Now
he's switched. But that's my favorite top of bees. After
the game and just with the boys, like and all
the young all the young fellows, they go straight to
the get off your fucking phone mate, Yes, let's go
get a beer. If you don't want to drink, get
a protein shake, just just sit around, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
No rush. It's just that's the greatest time.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
That's the best of them because these days, a lot
of the a lot of the young blos these days,
it's a culture shift. And again it's like they don't
really drink, like they'll get together over coffee and that's
how they or other stuff that they're into. But the
new generation of young guys are kind of very professional,
which is sick.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, we're getting towards the end of it, I'll just
say this, if I'll ask you this, let's remove rosy.
If you could pre paramount, if we had to pick
an all star team in around you, who would you
pick as your coach? Which coach understood you the most
and got the best out of you?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Only by a coach that I've had? Yeah, yeah, okay,
who understood me? I think Madge gave me he believed
in me. I wouldn't probably the most, but yeah, he's
the one that sort of showed me the way how
to be a first grader, and he believed in me
a lot onder He whipped me in mine real quick
(49:56):
because I know my mentality and my personas. If you
give me too much, I'll take an extra mile. Where
I thought I was going all right when I first
got into grade, then he pulled me back in. He goes,
you need to fix this, that and this, and I
was like okay, but it sort of kept me grounded.
So I think if I was a Paramatta, people might
(50:17):
say his ways of training hard and stuff that was
definitely what I needed at that time. Benny young Feller
watching you know, guys like g I semi doing all
the stuff that what we had to do. You sort
of grew the respect of like, okay, not everyone's the same,
but now looking at being thirty year old, now I'm
gonna fuck that. My body couldn't hold on.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
So that all starts. Who's your who's your captain is
the same? Yes?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, Sam, you would have to be the captain?
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, yeap, okay, who's your who's your key man? Like
you know when when the game's on the line, you
got guys like Chairs and everyone guys should play with
who's that who's that bloke you look to?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think game on the line, I want Chess in
my team.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
He just gets it done.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
And you know what I loved about Chairs was he
didn't care about where he was ending up and the
end of sets he goes, I'll find my best kick.
But game on the line, people don't want the ball
in the hens.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Chairs is the one that.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
It is interesting actually say that about Chans because so
many like let him listen, so so many.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Halfbacks that that play before the last.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
Tackle, they want to end in a spot where it's
the easiest kick for them. Chess are so good. It
just he does whatever, and then when it's fifth tackle,
wherever he ends up, he just does. He just gets
the job done wherever he is.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Well, when I was at the Warriors, it was always
last place set up and like, no, I don't play
the queue, play that, and I was like, fuck no,
if you know not, just play football. But if you
see the queue and you play it, then it takes
away the imagination of the player.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
And that's what I hated.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I hated the most about that, not just that you
know at the Warriors, but certain coaches will coach that
out of you.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
And I think when I first got into grade it
was sort of similar like that, because back in twenty
thirteen when I first debute, it was, you know, get
through your set kicklong, get through your set kicklong, we'll
get a pedalty somewhere and we'll be able to strike
a set together. But with Chas and Turbot, it was
always like if it's on, but on, and we're going
to play and we're just going to take. And then
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chairs always spoke about it goes I'm never not going
to be told not to take something I don't see
to believe it, yeah, yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
And then the way we get to paramount.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
What I love about you know, Brownie.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
And Rosy is Brownie takes care of the attack of
Rosie is like use your footy brain. And then Brownie's like,
I'm never not going to tell you not to take something.
If you see something, go do it.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Blokes like you win the game fromm and the least
the defense can do is if you make an error
or is it point you see something and it ends
up being a poor option and they come up with it. Well,
what they can do for you is defend the err
yea per but on one side has got to help
out the Dylan. Mate, it's been it's been fantastic to
catch up again. May congratulations on the past season. Appreciate
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it's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Any troops coming up?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Nah, pick Ken Island? No troops, I don't know. Yeah,
I've gotta I got to get back on the blow
ye who's keen.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
The bad phone?
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Hopefully in your time, PARAMOUNTA, you can win that first
compstance eighty six.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
She's guys
Silver surface.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Look at this Cooper, He's just spoon straight in there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Hey, welcome back, man. Now, I'm pretty sure in our
old place, just around the corner, you come with a
few of the Souse boys once or twice.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah. Yeah, So when I think said the address, I
realized you've gone a few streets over towards the beach.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We become that assholes around the corner.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That that Fox contract. Bro, he's got that. He's got
the upgrade now, so he moves closer to the water.
He will literally be in the ocean soon, like the
Lost City of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
But yeah, I mean, I'm not a breath and aster money,
but mate, I'm hohold my own for the good guys.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So what was that for South Sydney Back in the
Day's house.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I think it was a magic that he got all
the halves together. Yeah, we all drove over.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You and you and Luke Carey were the young guys.
First two sessions. Yeah, it was first two sessions. I
was calling Luke. John finally had the gas to say, Mate,
that's actually Luke. It's funny like yourself. Dela was saying
to Cooper when you first came over my first like
a view of you, how you played. You're like really quick, speed, footwork, power,
(01:15):
and you've still got that. But made. The great thing
these days makes your past selection is outstanding. Made, I reckon,
and we'll talk about paramount a second. I reckon made this.
So I've never seen you play better than you at
the moment. Cheers Mane.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I appreciate that. I think when you're young, when I
was coming through, because I played five eight or during
my junior years, and when you can first come to grade,
you don't really understand how the game works. It's a
different game. And I think when I first come through,
I was just that young athletic dude, not too much
of the knowledge where you're thinking that you know, and
(01:48):
then you know they just going over to you years
you sort of just pick everything up from different players coaches.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was going to say, you've nearly played every position,
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think the Warriors boys had a bit
of a running joke over there. I think I started
in the back round last year against and end up
getting spained. But that was the first I think that
was the last position position I had to take off
the list.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So you have you actually played every position?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I think, yeah, played full were are mainly when
Too went down in twenty twenty one and we started horrendous.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I think we had.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Forty put it on us by the roosters and was
consecutive weeks. And then when Tourbo was coming back, I
was supposed to shift back to the centers. And then
as journal asked me saying, oh has he gonna come as, oh, well,
he's not going to be an eighty point ten round player.
And then next week the boys won by thirty four. Yeah,
he's not back and it's winter. Yeah, it was a
(02:49):
bit of a laugh and joke.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You warned it up for him, though you warned that.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I sort of warmed it up. We'll talk about a
little bit later on his house man. You play good
players still, yeah, yeah, awesome, some of the best players
in the modern era. Quite incredible every position. God, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Utility plus Yeah, not very good in something, but had
a crack mate.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, Dylan, were you were your chess's wedding wedding Because
we keep honestly, it's not a week goes past and
I continue to get reports about my about dear son
he's empt duties. Were you in the firing line of all? No, no, no,
he left me alone.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I left left me me and walked some mutual respect.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But I was at the back of the table so you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Couldn't see me. So put me in the bleachers.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's where you know you stand in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
With the mate, where you are in the wedding.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, yeah, but that that was a good job you did.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Bro, Thanks Dan. That was good.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It was not much not much backlash from it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
A little bit, a little bit of backlash.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I would say, You've got a little bit in the
gossip column, someone saying when they're talking about d C's
relationship with Sieves, they keep bringing it up he wasn't
invited to the wedding.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Part of the jo I kept referencing that, like when
the whole contract stuff was going on with chairs this year.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
They just kept referencing it, like, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It was like I was watching three sixty one time
when Bazz was going, you know, and obviously seems wasn't
at the wedding, and I was like, oh, I keep
I kept getting dragged into this year.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Look I was reading as well.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Earlier Tailor May lost his twenty twenty one premiership ring.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And it got me thinking, Walks.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I thought, who would be you know, silly enough to
lose their premiership ring? But of course you lost your
as well off.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The back of the boat. Yeah, the back of the boat.
It was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It was a funny one that one. I remember. We
know this was happening. I was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I told everyone was a chicken wing because I was.
I was young at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I was like, yeah, I was having a chicken.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wing, but look old enough now I'm snakes.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I was having a Darry.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I was having a d and then I was with
one of my best mates, Aaron Gray, and I went
back to the bay.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We're just sort of looking at how good this?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And then I said, watch how fucking flict this this
Darry and went boll and flicked it and the rings
just slip off. I broke down. It was the worst moment.
It was so high the rollercoaster of rugby league was
like he and it just dipped straight down.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's bad Monday for you, ruined, but it was it
was worse.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We went to I think the Golden Chief and the
Roosters boys had their awards night and I remember seeing
PC we had a little argieba with PC in the
prelium and then he goes, oh, what happened to your ring?
Because it broke and it sort of breaked down, But
then we were budded on and it just had a
good time, good life.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Same thing happened to me week after the Grand Final.
I'm driving along in the car and I'll go right
and you know, I look, I don't condone littering people
into a into a tissue, wound down the window, threw
it out and my Grand Final ring went with it,
just added bouncing down the road. Luckily we reversed up
(06:03):
and found it after about an hour like that sinking
feeling did.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Ever, they never resurfaced. But there's another one that popped
up somewhere in some drug dens they raided.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It was one of those guys who were tattoos. Big
guys were bids that ride motorbikes in groups. What do
you call them?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
BMX They're like a scooter game electric by gang.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I remember the reading that as well.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That was very's not sure who else lost their ring
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They brought him a few.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Of us in question and they had to know where
my ring actually went and yeah, so I was like.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, I gave it to my brothers, my life before
we just shift onto football. I have to ask you this.
I always want to ask you this question because you
pick Ken Island. Ye, you were descended and Fletcher Christian.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes, yeah, I think he's like the or fourth grade.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's pretty crazy. I think when because I grew up
with my mum she told stories. But yeah, I didn't
realize until I was a little bit older that knowing
that becomes a rich history top of islands.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So it's amazing. You boys seen the mutnany on the Bounty.
So Fletcher Christian is played by mel Gibson. It's a
historical thing in the late eighteenth century and what they did,
Captain William Bly he set up, you know, to basically
travel the world around the Pacific and everything and made
it was pretty treacherous on there. There was guys who
had scurvy and everything. And suddenly they arrive in around
(07:39):
Tahooa and the Sandwich Islands and pitt Can Island and
they get off and his paradise. There's beautiful women, food
and everything, and then Captain blog goes right out. We've
had our three months here, let's go back on the boat.
And they just went, no, we're not going, We're not leaving,
and they and they stayed. It was like there the mutiny.
So there's a movie. So and the hero of the
movie played by Milks and as Fletcher Christian and his
(08:01):
descent and dlens are descended on. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Have you ever spoke to reach out to Mel Gibson?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean him actually quite tight.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You wanted me to start in some movie soon, political news.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He listens to the potty, so yeah, we'll get him on.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He loves Yeah. How did the move come about?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, I was going to re sign with the Warriors
for one more year, and I just had a deep
feeling in myself because my kids have moved back here
and I was just there by myself. And then after
one of the games, it just felt like a sense
of no one, It's time to get back and be.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Around the kids.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
They just started football just for Beacon Hill Bears. So yeah,
so the local team and me and me and I
just thought I had to get back and just set
my life back up over here and just ground it
again and then just be around them because there's mid year, right, Yeah,
I think it was in April. Yeah, yeah, it was
like three weeks in with the Warriors when in the
(09:01):
Vegas come back, played against the Roosters, and then yeah,
the deal was done with deals.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How is it received by the Warriors because you're a
big part of their squad.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, they just lost a lot of players there before.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It was a bit of a shock, but all the
boys knew the situation where I was just over there
by myself the year before, and they sort of all
understood like the big the big dogs there with Mitch
Barnett real close with and a lot of other guys left.
So you sort of seen all the young talent coming
through with Demitrick by among Yeah, like just unbelievable talent,
(09:39):
and I just thought it's it's the right time for
me to go. And I wasn't holding them back, but
it just would have given them more of an opportunity
to get more minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Have you seen like did you play with her in
that Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, I played a few games with because he
played I think he played this year. One game I
know definitely I played with in the Rooster's game, And
you can just see it from afar how special he was.
He's just an athletic things. He's fresh, he's a fresh kid,
but he's just he's fully wearness. The footy smarts, the
(10:12):
footy brain like he just got it a little bit.
Him and demetric, and just the way they moved in
defense and how they read the plays defensively, you can
just tell that the attack and they were just going
to become regular. First.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It seems like it's always been hard for the Warriors
to like bring through their own junior talent because they
lose so much to Rugby Union. And now it seems
like now a lot of them, a lot of young
guys want to play for the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well they've done a mad job over there, Warriors where
Union is the big pinnacle over there, and everyone wants
to play for the All Blacks. But the way how
we went in twenty twenty one, you could just see
the big shift and yeah, and you when you're getting
around there, people were just going like they leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Jabot, good game. It's just that. But just the way
how they.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Market the franchise and how they get around and make
people come to the games was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You see, Yeah, they used the early years coops up
until the All Blacks and New Zealand Ruby Union really
changed their system to try to count of the Warriors
because you had guys. When the under twenties, when Holden
Cup was being televised live, all some of the All
Blacks best juniors were being onder all the Warriors to
go in there and and the All Blacks changed the
policy which kept a lot of the good kids away.
(11:25):
But the emergence of the Wars like hell to see it.
From the moment you sawing, it's like you got that
big center of balance and that triscooed against the Knights
that completely break the spirit of the Knights players. That
was incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I think I remember his first his first game,
he played the Bulldogs and he breake through. He almost
s goed the man, it's good for us against the
Bulldogs last year and just seeing him from there, this
kid's going to be special.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
In the junior ranks one I think the se Ball
Player of the year a year younger and just he
was just a boy playing football then and then he
played Cup and then he made men look silly.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
He scored two tries in one of his first games
and just ran over.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
A bit, Dylan, the emergence of the wist phenomenon, you know,
because you often see an organization catch fire when they
win a Grand Final some of that. But you know
post COVID what what I mean, what happened suddenly for
the team just to just explode and the fan base
and everything.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I think when Wherebe come over from the Panthers,
he brought that system with him, and I think we
would all know that the systems high completions, possessions a
big thing over there, and where you leave teams in
the corner inside their twenty, if you can land the
kick in there and just get out there and have
your discipline right. He's sort of really done the game
(12:45):
down for a lot of us and made it a
lot easier and cleary game to be, Like, Okay, we're big,
powerful boys with all the young guys coming through. If
we can just roll, find momentum and play the cues,
then shown he can put it in the corner kick
and then you get them. Making two or three tackles
from marker sort of saves a lot of juice. Yeah,
(13:06):
do less, But if you're in the middle like me,
now I'm like I'm doing more than want to be
back out. But yeah, he just sort of done the
game down for the whole, for the whole organization and
I most boys from the post COVID day, it was
just a good sense of feeling being back home.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do you think it was like the fact that that
the that the team was the sporer went across and
living in Australia for so long and coming back it
was almost like a welcming but you don't realize what
you've got intil it's not there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, it was just a blank canvas, let's start fresh,
new coach, lots of new people coming in and everyone
sort of just felt like, okay, this is where we
can rewrite the story. So where we made that very
clear and everyone wanted to start fresh and just earn everything.
And it started in that preseason where everyone was ripping in.
(13:57):
Shawnee had one of his best preseasons from what the
boys are telling us, and then he almost comes out
wins dam.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah. The culture of the New Zealand side the Warrior
is how different is it to the Australian clubs? Is
there a difference you find? Yeah, I find it's a
funny one. A lot of people ask me about all
the younger guys.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're very respectful in a way. It's not saying that
they're not respectful here, but there's more of an ego
with the younger kids over here. Yeah, and you get
you get across and you can tell it, you know what.
I looking back at it now. When you're a young
kid in Australia you only know Rugua League in the NRL.
You can become a star playing through the under twenties,
(14:35):
just like when Benny Barber. Like everyone I knew Benny
Baba when he was playing under twenties with blonde streaks.
And I think over there because it's so dominated by
the Union, but the kids over there, how they're raised
and the culture in itself, it's very respectful.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's not you know, you're the young one, stay quiet.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's very much like will follow until it's right, and
you've just got to get the right people in the
right places, making the right decisions and showing you know,
how to be men in a game.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Because by nature, like a lot of the Polynesian cultures,
they're very quiet and like particularly like team meetings and stuff,
they won't really speak up because of those older boys
in the room who they feel like, out of respect,
they should be the ones talking.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is I like that the worries?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Nah, Well it was very because you know Harris, like
he's one of the most reserved dudes I've met, but
he's got this character about him where he allows other
people to speak up, He leans on other people to
come in and speak about in the group and having
that culture, and I think when you've got guys like that,
you've sort of got to know how to play or
(15:42):
how to speak to get them to come out of
their comfort zone. And having leaders like that where they're
not direct, harsh or anything like that, at showing culture
where you can be a little bit more reserved but
allow them to come through and feel that leadership. Well, yeah,
he was a real big, you know, pinnacle, like what's
called a pillar. And the success for the.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Warriors such an important thing, isn't it, Like, you know,
for young guys to feel comfortable in a room, to
be able to have their say respectfully of course, but
you know, as opposed to some coaches basically hit up
there the election and just say basically stand away, say
what you know, shut your mouths.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Is the training tough over there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, Ballan Couples.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I don't know if you do. You know anyone know
Batan Couples.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, he could follow real good dude. Yeah,
training is tough.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's always tough, tough everywhere. It's tough everywhere wherever you go.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But it was the thing about wherever it was, we
did a lot of running. But once that December kicked up,
when we come after Christmas, it was just awfootball and
that was his regime of wanting to get the best
out of the team. It's just we just used to
do Heber arm wrestles, you know, arm wrestles. And that's
fine because you can come to the train and go like,
(16:57):
I'm not doing one, this's running. I'm actually doing something
that's going to go help me go into the game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So applicably, had lots of fun, applicable information you're working on.
Marino does the same with soccer. They reckon when when
they went when he first went to Chelsea, they turned
up and the players had their running shoes. He said,
you won't need those, just bring your boots. Yeah. Yeah.
Just playing five on five games skill based, as you said,
makes it fun. Yeah, as opposed to just putting the
blinkers on a run four hundred meters.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. When you're doing that, it's.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, you know what, you know what, it's rank and
you know what's funny, like the amount of boys and
this is this happens from like under sixteens Harrold Matthews
right up until NRL. There are some players who are
that good at like that that mental tough running, like
long distance you're doing like four hundred meters sprints or
(17:44):
things like that. They could be the fittest in the
whole group. But then you put them in a drill
like a ten minute arm wrestle where you're playing a
game consistently back and forth for ten minutes, simulating a
game speed, and they're the worst fitness of them are.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's such different.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Look at still running the person of the rower. You
get some guys that would come last in the running,
but put them on the rower because there's six foot
six foot four and you know, and all of a
sudden they just tearing the thing apart.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What's that the train like Jane, Yeah, yeah, there's all
those ones, but the first and the only person I've
ever seen that trains like Jane but plays like tars In.
It's really bangers, mate. I love him to death. Me
and him are tight, We're pretty close. But I've never
seen the bloke as a leader.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Go like, all right, but he used to.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Just come to training Sometimes I'm like, what are you
doing here? Do you want to be here? And then
you come out and make fifty tackles, run for two
and fifty and I'm like, all right, I love this
guy a bit more.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You get those red blokes.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, there are so many.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Idal on like like you. Me and he have spoken
about this a few times on our Sunday and Night chower.
My paramrit started, Mate, that what I really felt for
Roles because you haven't got you haven't got Mitch. You've
got all the uncertainty around Dylan Brown. Mate, they're getting
getting hammered. I reckon. Everything changed in that football side
(19:06):
against Saint George, that day against the Dragons when you
come on into that middle. From the moment you come on, mate,
everything started to fall into place, like did you did
you feel that yourself? That was let me ask that
different way to actually be more? How good? How good
does it feel to be the club where you are
like one of the central leaders.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I think it's when I first come over and
sort of join the team. Everyone's welcoming, but you've sort
of almost got to like the ego, the healthy ego.
I had to come in and be like, you prove
yourself a little bit, but then it's you talk, your actions,
you lead, and then when you come on in the field,
all I wanted to do was like, no matter what
happened on the day, I wanted to win.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Be that that got not the guy to be like
oh because of me, But I just wanted to go like, Okay,
I'm like I'm here for business.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And when it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Sort of happened and sort of going into that game,
it's sort of they didn't they had that thirteen role
that ball playing thirteen like we got good. But I
just knew that if we got there and had to
play in a certain style that it was almost going
to help everyone around us. With the full back Isaiah Yoga,
who's honestly he's going to be He's.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Going to be a great player, like a slater top. Yeah,
Like he's just so diligent.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
He's he's got that footy brain where he can read
the play, but then he's also he's a good kid,
you know what I mean, that's even better, and he's he's.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
A humble kid.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
He goes about his business and I like what he does.
But it's sort of just unlocks everyone that was out
there with the fox Dell Brown, and once that sort
of happened, it just made it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
A lot easier for us. He's it's not like talking
about you. Jack shaded me one morning when he's played mainly.
He said, Jason, come have a look at this, and
we used it on the shower and it was He's
kicked long down field. He led the kick chase, he
hit turbo almost on impact. Then he made two from
marker and then he turned around. Most people would tell
(21:02):
they're going to go for forty twenty, he'd tell the
wing to go back, but he turns around, he sprints back,
they go for the forty twenty. He catches it on
the fall, just charges in like that that forty seconds.
What he did there, I just went, mate. He's tough,
he's got great tactical awareness, and he's skillful.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think you can't teach
that or coach that. But he sort of what I
love how Rosie is. He hasn't diverted from his plan
at one bit. He stuck strong to what he beleds
is going to work. And he always says that whoever's
if you're in that position to do this, like the
Mark Attucky, you said, you've got to do it. And
(21:39):
then so he's done that a fair few times and
it sort of helps everybody, and then he gets back
to position and he's saving forty twenties or catch the
ball in the fall and bringing it back and then
taking the play three carry in. Honestly, that kid's going
to be a special special.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You can tell like that it's he's come from obviously
come from Panrith. But he follows a bloke like, oh seriously,
there are that many people coming out of here. But
he follows a player like Dylan Edwards, and you can
see that, like young, he's got that much talent. He
probably doesn't need to have a work ethic like he does.
But he's based so much of his game off effort. Yeah,
(22:16):
like plays like that where fullbacks aren't expected to make
two tackles from marker and then get back and stop
at forty twenty. But he gets that from a player
that he's followed like Dylan Edwards who's been doing that
his whole career as well.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's right, Yeah, the bloke ahead of him then you
know he's smart kid. He can watch what he does.
And yet take that away to a bloke who deserves
a rap, Dylan and you know he's going to my
old club, Dylan Brown. A lot was going on at
the time. And the money they're offering, I mean, look,
you can't knock that back. Is he worth the not
Let's just not go there. Who knows he might turn
out to be. But the way he's conducted himself while
(22:48):
he's remained at your club, not many blokes will be
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Ye undred percent. Yeah. I think we've all been in
a position where he's seen boys throw the toys out
of the cot gun stuff this some mew.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
To his credit, he's he's rocked up every day, hasn't
put a foot wrong. Is he worth it or whatnot?
It doesn't matter. Like he's doing the best decision that's
based for his family, and that's what's been presented. And
let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Who would say I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I do not understand why he cops criticism because you
go the things I would do for that sort of money,
I would do some disgusting I would.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I would do things that I would not say in
front of my family.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I would dive naked in Sydney Harbor and fish out
Dylan Walker's premiershire.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's good off the cut that I like that, I
do that.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
He congratulations on two fifty as well.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Holy Ship wracked up some games.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, it's it's been a good career, be very tould.
But I wouldn't change it for the world.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Road to three hundred, let's get behind.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's only been about fifty Look at it the other
day when Chez and Benny Hunt played there three undre
It's only been about fifty five fifty players that have
played three undred game.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Incredible. I think might have been Terry Limb might have
been the first one anyone. Nonetheless, I'm talking ancient times here.
You know, a little hint that some of the boys
are going to have a good seasons. Trisha and I
are up at at Ballina. What we're doing up there
have done neither was really cone heads, but anyway, nonetheless
we are. We've got that and I'm coming through and
(24:34):
Paramatta had played a troll game the day before. Of course,
at this point you're still at Warriors, and we came
through the airport and it was the young Pacific Oland
fellow there come up to me and said, maybe a
little while ago we had paramedic come through. He goes, fuck,
he said, I reckon Junior has lost twenty kilos. He said.
He looked at how good has he gone?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I think when everyone saw it from the start
of the season, because you don't see the boys or
see anyone outside of until round one basic. But yeah,
he's in good, Nick, very good Nick. He's I think
he dropped fifteen kegs. It's just coming back from that preseason.
I think. I don't know what happened. I haven't gone
to deep with that with him. But he's good on
(25:14):
his diet. He's changed that up. He goes for late
walks that night every night, like a bit of a routine,
just to you know, just.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Get that health.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
How late.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, he's not a good sleep, not a good sleeper.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's got his he's got his dog. He goes.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He goes walking on the way trips. When we went
up to when the first one I seen him walking
at eight thirty. You get I just went for a walk,
and he said that he was talking to all the
locals up there clear on the head.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was up in Darwin earlier this year. Eight thirty
at night.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You wouldn't want to be walking around the street to
Darwin gets kind of dangerous.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You should be Okay, Foxy, What what a season fox
has had? Yeah, he's been. Man, I'm unbelievable. Like it's
similar to you, like when we had him Urler in
the year in the podcast, you could just see how
happy he was, Like, which comes back to my original point.
You just see something in that paramount aside, it's the
way he's played, the enthusiasm. You can see you're enjoying
(26:10):
your attack. Just looks like a happy team. Yeah, how
important that is.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, it's the environment, the way that the coaches, even
the boys. The boys, it's like back in the old
school days where the boys are putting it on each
other or they've got the wheel out if you're late,
you've got to do this, like all the fun stuff
and I haven't had it for the last few years.
But just the way that Rosie Brownie semi male all
this season, coaches, how to make football relevant to what
(26:35):
we're actually doing during that week. It's not just God,
we're doing this where everything's got a purpose to it
and when you're coming into training. The best thing about
it is Rosie says he uses footy brain a lot.
And it's not like a black or white system where
I've had Dassi wears it's black or white. You've got
a gym, you've got to do this. It's just like
so systematically where he's like, back yourself to make your
(26:57):
fullty decision with your brain.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And that's for I love. And as soon as I sort.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Of clicked onto it, I was like, oh, I love
that it's in that gray area where you're allowed to
make the decision. If it's based on you, not so much.
If this person he's inside shoulder, you've got to go.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, your instinct.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I love that, Dylan. I love that. I frustrates the
shit out to me watching outside backs and the and
the wingers outside the center, and the winger obviously knows
the center has made a dud decision, but he just
jumps in the fire as well. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
use your use your use a bit of instinct to
know how to solve that. Yeah, and that's what Rosie,
that's all he backs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He's just used your footy brain and the way that
fox he's played this year, you can tell he's been
He's real happy, he said over the Dogs. He he
said it was hard training, but he just he enjoys
just been around this group, like it's a good group.
Everyone's close with each other, always catch off coffees or
going out for breakfast in the mornings the day before
(27:54):
the game, and it's just getting getting around the boys.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Which is a finish the year striking going in to
obviously the year. The start of the year was pretty
like poor and it was probably wrote wrote finals off
quite early. But the way he's have finished, given all
the turnover of players, people are leaving. What you guys
have done on the field without having like Dylan Brown
out there, this must be pretty excited going into twenty
(28:17):
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, undreds, and I think we've had that many injuries,
Like miss has been out for a while, he comes
in for a few weeks and he's back out turnover players.
He's bleeding a lot of young guys and clubs sort
of they need those years to sort of blood it
so you can get that continuity within each other, especially
with the young guys and who you bring in and
(28:40):
the way that the young guys have gone about it,
and it's been so consistent to finally again results on
the football field and seeing that, okay, our belong is
only going to be a massive help going forward into
next year. And we've all spoken about how finishing the
you know, the year strong is going to help us.
But it's just within the games. When we lost in
Melbourne a few weeks ago, top of the table Melbourne
(29:04):
side typically are pretty hard and we had I think
Dean Hawkins in the seven and Joe ash at the
six or one of them too. But just seeing the
confidence that the boys got with going close with the team,
that's that powerful, you sort of Our football has just
been building for the past month or two and going
(29:24):
into the end of the season now where we're winning games,
people are starting to believe that the first grade is now.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You just mentioned Dean Hawks got a better kick, better
touch on the ball he's kicking.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
How weird is his ball drop?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah? I find it weird.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
If you ever, if.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
People are listening, if you ever watch Dean Hawkins kick
the ball he drops it in the most unorthodox way. Yeah, yeah,
he like flips it like he flips it on such ones.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I said, maybe you sound like hit the ball better
than that he has made. It's terrible. Look at the drops.
Who gives a fuck? Yeah he's a Souse sinning boy,
and like you're part of that team deal in that
great club. It's when it's first comps is ninety seventy one,
Like if you go down Redfern Now, like I know,
whenever you've played a club, you have bonds. But South supporters,
(30:16):
how do they treat treat you? Nah, they're good.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I actually went down to the Logo a Grade Grand
final last weekend and you see some heads that you
haven't seen hope not to see again. Some people just
haven't changed. But it's been good. The South fans they
always gonna say I liked you better at Souse and
I go, mate, that's a different lifetime. I go for me,
it was like ten years ago. But no, everyone's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What about those bikes we look back at that time
like g Iron Sam, Yeah yeah, what did you learn
from those blikes? Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Semi was probably the best leader of men where you're
like I walk through fire with his Blake Jack says, Yeah,
he was one of those guys where I don't know,
he's just had this thing where it's just like he's
outphae like if there was that, I don't even know
how to explain an a about him.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, it's just the the aora about him.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You knew he was going to turn up each and
every week. He was one that you're like, I'm going
to follow these guys. G I was just he was
He was a freak. He was everyone's favorite player growing up.
He was just always set back your ability. But yeah,
I think Sammi there even John Sudden to an extent
where because he's just the local boy where you sort
of can connect with him as I was a bit
(31:35):
of a yeah wrap back in Cison around the streets,
just cruise, cruising along just but yeah, yeah I connected
with pretty good and then but yeah, Sammy was the
one where everyone just looked towards when you needed something.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
What's it like like when you go in and debut
on that side and you've got those leaders where you're
like your first interaction with him when you first go
into full time at NRAL, you're pretty intimidated.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I was only on back then because they didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Have the top thirty, but they used to bring kids
in and I was straight out of high school doing
my first preseason and I was only supposed to go
to the Christmas break. But then Madge obviously liked what
he saw and he said, I want you to come back.
And then back then I was only getting five hundred
bucks a month on the twenties contract. All the kids
now getting thousand a week. But yeah, daunting I remember.
(32:28):
I think the first training session the older boys went back.
We had the work week for two weeks. Madge boy see.
I think it was the Melbourne type situation where you
had to appreciate your job, and so we were on
the job site for two weeks. Go do ways in
the morning, do that, come back an afternoon, get flogged.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That sucks.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I actually had a pretty good gig. I was out
at Mossman. We're just I think we're clearing out these
blokes trees and bushes. But then we would have a
break and kick the feed up because he would have
to go all the way to the tip and then
so then we couldn't do any work until he got back.
And I did that for two days, and then I
found a ship job because one of the boys had
to pull out down Alexandria brick laying, so we had
to stack bricks for the all the boys there just
(33:12):
paving the way, seeing Blake smack about two packets a
day easy.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
He was up there just because we were stacking the
bricks for him.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So he was just he's backing up and if he
landed down, U be stacking the bricks and he has thanks,
and then he come back here, Thanks Chimpy. It was
all these funny little things, but it was good. It
was a good experience. It was something that you got
you look back on and you go, all right, I've
done my done my beat.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Did you have a partner without doing it?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It was me and nuppy chorus. Oh yeah, so mean
they caught a sleeping on the and he goes, you're
not going to get fired doing that boys.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, sweet Blake said the same thing to me.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I remember.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It was me and Harry Grant.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
We were doing like plumbing out of pre slabs with
lay the concrete when you go through all the pipes
to make sure they weren't cracked, and Harry was like
he'd already done one year out of school as an apprentice.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'd come straight out of school.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And let's be honest, Dylan probably had been silver Spoon
for a lot of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
So back then my work ethic probably wasn't where.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I wouldn't believe it, mate, I wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And the bloke just went after me, did not leave
me alone, like just wrapping Harry all the time being
like like you you'll play.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
He was bagging Dad and Joey a lot. At one stage,
asked Harry, I remember the day it was.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It was a Thursday, and I and he made me
go and shovel while him and Harry were eating sandwiches.
And then I was shoveling and he goes, you're just
like your your dad and uncle like ship on it,
like ship work ethic and all this like start hammering
you guys and I and this spokes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
From Melbourne respectfully to him. He had no idea. You
wouldn't have had.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Any idea what you en Joey were like a players.
And I said, mate, you wouldn't know the first thing
about regular.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
For our new listeners, you've got to tell him the story.
There's a reason why he doesn't like you.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh yeah, okay, so there's a backstory to it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
But respectfully, respectfully, to me, this was a This was
literally after that day. I was assuming so much that
I decided to get back at him because he had
an apprentice with him who was actually with him full time,
and he gave us some inside knowledge about so you know,
like domain and those those things that are like they'll
they'll build mass houses all at once. So he was
(35:30):
trying to get work with like one of those trying
to get the contract, trying to get the contract, and
his apprentice told me and Harry, and Harry goes, oh,
we should get him, because he goes, you two got
this running thing.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
We should we should fucking get him. Yes, sweet.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
So I've texted him off my number because he didn't
have my number, and I said, may, I'm trying to
remember what the company is called. Let's call it. Let's
call it painting. You know, mate, I'm Cooper from Painting.
He mate, we've been reviewing your application to take on
the contract.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's looking really good.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
We'd love to chat with you more when you get
a chance about going forward and setting up a deal
and a contract, so you can take on a lot
of our work.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Anyway, I send it to him.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We're at hungry Jack's at like a twin servo at
a highway and I'm watching him read the message, and
then he goes outside.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He's on the blower and we're laughing, and they go like,
what's he thinking? What's he thinking?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Little did we know he'd rang his wife and he
was going, how good is this? Like we've got this
big contract. I didn't know how much it was going
to be worth. It was a substantial amount that he
thought he was about to get. He was hyping his
wife up, gone how good is this? Would changing life and
all this shit. So the then he ring. Then he
rings like his main contact at the place, and the
(36:44):
guy goes. He goes, man, I just got the text
from things like how do you want to do this?
And he goes, well, what number did you get it?
Off sends it to the guy. He goes, I don't
recognize this number, but leave it with me. I will
just see who sent you that text. They put it
through the system. It was no one employed by that company.
Comes back in the U and we're all sitting there
about to get to this job site and like Dandy
(37:05):
Nong ages away in Melbourne, and I'm sitting there and
I'm in the middle of the back seat and I'm
looking at him, and he's frustrated. And then via the
bluetooth he rings the number and I'm in the back
seat and my ringer was on and my ringing just
sads going and he goes, I still remember he's driving,
and he goes, he's looking in the rear view mirror
and and I'm just sitting there, just holding my phone,
(37:27):
staring straight at him, and he goes, is that you?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Is that that you?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Is it? You? Little fuck pulls over on the side
of the road, just turns back and just gives me
and Harry a biggert spray. Even turned on Harry, who
he was like his fucking produg and he goes, you
will never play in the NRL because he was supposed
to put a report through to Craig Bellamy on how
we how we went individually, and he was like, belly
A will fucking hear about this, he will hear about
(37:51):
what little fucking smartest.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Is, how shit you've been working.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
And then me and Harry were stressing Harry's gone, You've
fucking ruined my career. I'm that sorry, Harry, like they're
still hopefully yeah, thank god. He just I think after
the day or two, I think the apprentice fest up.
So I told him because he didn't have the report
was actually quite flattering to both of us. But like
we would have been, like he probably would have piece, it's.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Got a little bit of respect, Like it's a good get.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, you know, it's a good get.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
At what point did like, Okay, they got me, They've
gotta be.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Pretty I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
He worked quick, diligent, calling up his wife, calling up.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Working quick. That's when you know I.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Was actually I was stressing for weeks.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
When did you live with Abby?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh? Yeah we did down there, I think right across
the road from the server at seven eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I saw he's in there once.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, well let's just keep it.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, just buying some smokes.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Are you still made with Appy?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Still, yeah, very close.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I caught up with him a few weeks ago at
my kid's birthday party, and yeah, just touch base here
and there, played golf here and there.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, legend one of.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The good blokes, because she's win that.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You are both quite young when you win that Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It south together, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a funny story
though one actually with us because when I was actually
got suspended, it was obviously pretty heartbreaking for Bully and
he was he was guarded, but yeah, he didn't drop
the limb. But Uppy was going to Penrith. He got
signed for I think like a two or three year
deal have at Penrith Fly because he was going real
good at the house and boys loved him at the house.
(39:38):
And I remember he was rolling in for the last
four or five weeks of training, but you could just
tell it he was on a bender. He was he
was walking up and down the Red Fern look going
on the train and he'd be coming back and he'd
be like, dust, what do you.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Do on the weekend? He goes, No, I went out
and with the boys on the weekend. You're good on
your mate.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Anyway, he gets the he gets the car color. Maybe
we're going to need you for the gf these blaken
like I wouldn't say rats, but he's.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Been partying every weekend.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
And then he's like, okay, he turned into Superman like
that Grand Final, like everyone goes on notice, but he
fucking played awesome in that game, like if people want
to rewatch it back like I think he was. That
was his first year of grade too, and he come
in and didn't look at the place and he just.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I didn't even I didn't even realize that he'd only
got caught up for the Grand Fire.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, he got caught up late because I was like, Luke,
I think he got done for a lifting tackle and
Sonny Bill Williams, that's right.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, and then Sunny.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Bill Williams come out and said, nah, like it wasn't
there was no malice towards it, but obviously got suspended.
And then yeah he got the call up and the
week of the Grand fine, man.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That's heavy.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, that's heavy, getting suspended for a grand Yeah, it's gotten.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
It's got a heart break. That's did you you'll move
to Mainly? Was that through Bob Fulton? Yeah, that was yeah,
through Yeah, the late great Bob. Yeah. Now don't gonna
I'm rely on you're honesty. When I once in the
early nineties negotiated with I was like, yeah, Mane with
the Kangaroo tal coming up next week, and man, look.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
If you you know, if you if you.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Play for Manly let's just say that one of the
blokes you're competing against in the six Jersey might have
a bad groin or might have a codding. I didn't
sign with Manly and I didn't get what about like
those It could be very persuasive, very persuasive.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I think that's the only reason I've got the gig
in the New South Wales.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Jersey because I was playing dog shit. I was playing
dog shit.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I remember because when we're signing mate on the top
of the border at the Blues, we can get you
in the Blues. And I was sort of eighteenth man,
but I was like, oh, yeah, maybe this is my
way into the Blues and very persuasive. Man, good fellow,
good man. And then had so many different phone numbers
come up on my phone and it's the same bloke
(42:00):
behind it, multiple phones, multiple phone numbers.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Could even.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
There was Journa, there was Jono that was having a
blue at the time with Boseil and he just goes, Mate,
he had just completely rattled him. He'd be going, he said,
he'd be having on the phone, give it to him
and you go hang on a second. Then Bozo would
pick up having Yeah, we're talking talking on the phone
to somebody else. Go mate, anyway, I've got this bloke
(42:27):
on the other on the other phone, hang on a second,
then straight back into him, he said, mate, it was
he said, mate, he learned, he said, mate, don't funk.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
With Yeah, I've never met it like a powerful person
like I Sea the power Brokers. Everyone knew it was
Russell Crave. But when I got to me and me
and Bozo was the one running the ship. Yeah, just
how much power and poor that he had within and
a roll with itself?
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, and manly.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, I wonder if he because when you have you
ever done that prank where you're ring two Chinese restaurants?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Do you know that one?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And then you put it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
You go hang on want to say hang on to
and then you put him on the phone together and
they go what do you want?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
And they argue on the phone.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I wonder if did that Mayes?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
What about Russell? Mate?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah? No, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
The lucky ones and a lot of big dogs in
the Yeah, there's a lot of big dogs.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I was. I was.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I was a new coming in but yeah, I had
some just normal conversations, but yeah, yeah, not too much.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
To do with him, to be honest, a roll and anything.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I got ahead for a radio mate, Did.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You ever go like, what's it called quad biking?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
That was?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
That was my first season that mainly yeah, I left.
So when when the boys went up and had their
little pre season camp up, there were up in Coffs
as well at the same time. And when I was
coming home, look, he caused me up, what's happened?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
And then he started plying up and then he told
me the whole story about him and Russell Crowe and
then I was like, oh that ship bro. Sorry to
he like, there's anything you need let me know, because yeah,
no worries. And then after that year he I think
he was still there for one year and then Semi
Burgess had his wedding. I forgot where it was, but
Russell Craig got up and spoke, and me and Kiri
(44:12):
were blind. We're playing these silly games through all the boys,
like whoever took you know, the handkerchief and someone he
had to scald the drink, but Luke Key was blind.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It was maggot.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
And Russell Craig got up in city speech and then
after he spoke, everyone sort of clapped and he stood up.
He stood up, he kicked.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
His chair backwards.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Because he's yeah, yeah, good, good bloke.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Because then he went the Roosters after that he was
playing that good at the Roosters too.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Should have been a lifelong Souse player, yeah, should have
been one grand mate won a Grand final then? How
he won three grand finals? Flu?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah he won one of the bunnies into the trucks.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah man medal. Oh yeah, he's over in Catalana at
the moment. The English Super League, fear to say by
his comments last month and not a big fan, that's
all right.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, apparently he was getting booed and stuff and people.
That's what I think. I've seen leam night cruising around
that river.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Beach the other day night, across the road yesterday. He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, okay, he was on the phone.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Maddie here he goes. I look at it, man, is
he is she really going out with him?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Nies? I reckon, I rate ninety.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Is a good looking fella, of course, and he's in
a like he's got a good he's always had.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
But you know he's a confident person, real confident.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
He's got a quirky very.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Quirky on the side another day.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Of all the clubs you've played that, actually, let's go
to Manly for a sec because you had such a good,
such a good crewd Mound. You're still mates with a
lot of the boys there, Chairs and all those lads
of all the clubs excluding Eels, because you're there. Now,
what do what do you have your fondest memories from?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, many, Mammy, He's probably I've spent I think seven
to eight years here, so yeah, I grew some good
relationships with the boys, some good nights, some some fun times.
But forty cents I learned a lot of Chairs and
Turbo one hundred percent. Those two were probably the two
(46:31):
football IQ guys that played with in a sense of
knowing the game and what cues. But as good as
they are on the field, off the field, yeah they
go pretty good. They go pretty hard as well.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
They're pretty well the years that you were there, I
think it was the next level of like work hard,
play hard, like the.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Boys would like.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
When I was at Manly it was a little bit less,
sort of post COVID. I think everyone kind of slowed
right out and at the time Turbo had stopped really
drinking because.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You're talking about Yeah, okay, so when I was at
the house, it was very professional, like I was strict,
as I wouldn't say strict, but I was like on
the straight and narrow, like Madge poured us in the
line pretty quick and no drinking here, no drinking.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I've got the meaning.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
I turned into a pi sead, full blown pie.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I think it was all good spirits.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No one's got in trouble by training.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, yeah, so well, yeah, it was the old score
of just come in. If you get a party, you
get to train hard. And yeah, that's what's.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
It come from that they come from that culture of
that premiership winning side like the Stewart brothers Chuck who
they all ripped in so hard on the field, and
then they got connected away from it by having drink ups.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, like it was just the way I understand. I
understand health wise. But what you find is people a
lot of times just because the team might have bit
of drinking culture and have a great time, it doesn't
mean they're off the rails. What it is a lot
of times is people who are off the rails. Oftentimes
we'll get on the booze a lot of times, but
a lot of times it's a social thing. If you
(48:08):
can continually square the ledger, then you know, within reason, Yeah,
it's okay with reason. Yeah, houses we're talking about appy
o night, we're talking about Fletcher. I will go, mate,
do you have a beer? And that then he goes
an't any the boys do? After game? It was happy happy,
(48:32):
So yeah, he switched real quick.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
He used to be one of the looser ones. Now
he's switched. But that's my favorite top of bees. After
the game and just with the boys, like and all
the young all the young fellows, they go straight to
the get off your fucking phone mate, Yes, let's go
get a beer. If you don't want to drink, get
a protein shake, just just sit around, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
No rush. It's just that's the greatest time.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
That's the best of them because these days, a lot
of the a lot of the young blos these days,
it's a culture shift. And again it's like they don't
really drink, like they'll get together over coffee and that's
how they or other stuff that they're into. But the
new generation of young guys are kind of very professional,
which is sick.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, we're getting towards the end of it, I'll just
say this, if I'll ask you this, let's remove rosy.
If you could pre paramount, if we had to pick
an all star team in around you, who would you
pick as your coach? Which coach understood you the most
and got the best out of you?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Only by a coach that I've had? Yeah, yeah, okay,
who understood me? I think Madge gave me he believed
in me. I wouldn't probably the most, but yeah, he's
the one that sort of showed me the way how
to be a first grader, and he believed in me
a lot onder He whipped me in mine real quick
(49:56):
because I know my mentality and my personas. If you
give me too much, I'll take an extra mile. Where
I thought I was going all right when I first
got into grade, then he pulled me back in. He goes,
you need to fix this, that and this, and I
was like okay, but it sort of kept me grounded.
So I think if I was a Paramatta, people might
(50:17):
say his ways of training hard and stuff that was
definitely what I needed at that time. Benny young Feller
watching you know, guys like g I semi doing all
the stuff that what we had to do. You sort
of grew the respect of like, okay, not everyone's the same,
but now looking at being thirty year old, now I'm
gonna fuck that. My body couldn't hold on.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
So that all starts. Who's your who's your captain is
the same? Yes?
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, Sam, you would have to be the captain?
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, yeap, okay, who's your who's your key man? Like
you know when when the game's on the line, you
got guys like Chairs and everyone guys should play with
who's that who's that bloke you look to?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think game on the line, I want Chess in
my team.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
He just gets it done.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
And you know what I loved about Chairs was he
didn't care about where he was ending up and the
end of sets he goes, I'll find my best kick.
But game on the line, people don't want the ball
in the hens.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Chairs is the one that.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
It is interesting actually say that about Chans because so
many like let him listen, so so many.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Halfbacks that that play before the last.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
Tackle, they want to end in a spot where it's
the easiest kick for them. Chess are so good. It
just he does whatever, and then when it's fifth tackle,
wherever he ends up, he just does. He just gets
the job done wherever he is.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Well, when I was at the Warriors, it was always
last place set up and like, no, I don't play
the queue, play that, and I was like, fuck no,
if you know not, just play football. But if you
see the queue and you play it, then it takes
away the imagination of the player.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
And that's what I hated.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I hated the most about that, not just that you
know at the Warriors, but certain coaches will coach that
out of you.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
And I think when I first got into grade it
was sort of similar like that, because back in twenty
thirteen when I first debute, it was, you know, get
through your set kicklong, get through your set kicklong, we'll
get a pedalty somewhere and we'll be able to strike
a set together. But with Chas and Turbot, it was
always like if it's on, but on, and we're going
to play and we're just going to take. And then
(52:25):
chairs always spoke about it goes I'm never not going
to be told not to take something I don't see
to believe it, yeah, yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
And then the way we get to paramount.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
What I love about you know, Brownie.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
And Rosy is Brownie takes care of the attack of
Rosie is like use your footy brain. And then Brownie's like,
I'm never not going to tell you not to take something.
If you see something, go do it.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Blokes like you win the game fromm and the least
the defense can do is if you make an error
or is it point you see something and it ends
up being a poor option and they come up with it. Well,
what they can do for you is defend the err
yea per but on one side has got to help
out the Dylan. Mate, it's been it's been fantastic to
catch up again. May congratulations on the past season. Appreciate
(53:08):
it's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Any troops coming up?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Nah, pick Ken Island? No troops, I don't know. Yeah,
I've gotta I got to get back on the blow
ye who's keen.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
The bad phone?
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Hopefully in your time, PARAMOUNTA, you can win that first
compstance eighty six.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
She's guys
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