#69 | Scott Drinkwater - Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are you breathing?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I was just concentrating. I just went for a swim
and I had to hurry back. Why Because I knew
drink it was going to be.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
You didn't have to hurry back like an.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen, I drink, sorry drinking. Just one second, mate, listen,
I'm going to say one more time, stop showing off
in front of drinking right trying to tell me what
to do. You just keep you keeping your place.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It used to be so independent and like we didn't
need to help you. Now it's like you're getting there
at age when you're starting to lose it.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I feel like I'm the mediator. Yeah, can I just
say something. I would say that the boss of the
boss of Fox Sports, Murdoch. I disagree.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You're about to say that you were the boss of
Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Mate. Look at this, Look at this drinking. You wear
this This.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Kate described to people what that what that is?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, it's a Scotch and soda jacket. It's awesome, Thank you.
Put order and I'll actually kept that on there. Yeah, kids,
keep the tag on. Hats doing the same.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Do you know why he's keeping the tag on? Tell
him why you're keeping the tag going.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Because I want to get you like it? Do you
like the jacket?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It suits you?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Do you want it?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
It suits Maddie better. I wouldn't hit me.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
See plenty of this. It means plenty of this. Plenty
of this means plenty of this. Plenty of this makes
plenty of because that is a joke. Will.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm glad you you just saw your career flash before
your eyes, didn't you, And what a glorious career it was,
and what an excellent career you've had, and it's all
coming to an end after this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thanks for coming over.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Scott, Thank you for having me. Are you excited?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
You haven't done many podcasts before? How many of you done?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
This would probably be my third?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Wow? Who was first time?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Let's see Jami Latimer was doing on with something Sports,
Some Sports Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It was a late call up.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Me and Rob got a late call up because and
now I did just did a local one actually last
two weeks in the coast with just a fellow start one.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
There you've done the stepping stones here you are? Yeah,
playing first grade number one grade or podcast number one thirty. Yeah,
we've day game three pm.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And we had someone present you with the jersey before. Yeah, yeah,
we come over. Larry MDA presented you with the jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Poto there the one there that was me getting my
first Australie jersey. But you know all about that.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I did just hear all about that.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, you ever played, You've played for Australia twelve times.
You ever played at Wembley? Yeah, I played twice.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Who presented Who presented your debue jersey?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Dad?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, no, not Australia like Knights? Did you do it?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Was no, there was no jersey present.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
It wasn't none of that back then. Who did yours?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Drinking Monster was monster?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
You'r won money? Did one that's kind of not as
special because, like you would, you're not that far in age.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess, but it was still pretty
qui he didn't get.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
To play A billy probably would have done it, but
he was away that way. Yeah, call up eight hours
before kick off.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
You must to do a speech like here we go,
it's a drinky mates chaming and made all.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I can't remember that too much. I was more nervous
about what I was going to say.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, I can't remember who did mine because remember you
were on it was in COVID and you were on
zoom you mum. And I don't think Jack was on it,
but your muma there. I think Belly. I think it
was just belly a.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I think Son.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You were Yeah, like one of those DALs his cliffs.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
No way, you just see me train I presented Jackson. Yeah,
remember I had all this, I had this.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Big speech played. Yeah, three words. I started crying. Anyway,
my RABBITO is one.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah, I can't remember. That was a bit of a
hard one. I remember it's COVID times. It was very unique.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, and then you're special.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
You did you did present my Newcastle one in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I heard your Newcastle presentation of what was forgettable?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Forget it. I had this amazing speech plan. I said
three words, started crying and had to sit down.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, but I reckon everyone given like who you are, right,
Maddie John's I imagine a lot of people would have
expected you to have a great speech, like there's actually
a lot of pressure on you in those times, a
lot of an excellent speech. But yeah, I reckon you
would have been quite overwhelmed with there that.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Newcastle one I'm pretty sure they had him ready to
give this to a Chilean speech for us to have
this Cracker game on All Boys Day.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
We've got beat sixty to like thirty.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Or something like that. Some ship score sixty. Yeah, like
that's some tri scoring game.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Maybe we're just looking as I was sitting there, master
the team bet to get the call up or look
to the left. Jake Clifford was there just to ride
for club Luke. My god, what a great pair of leagues.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Oh yeah, great pits zero where's two belts?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah? Jah t, it's good to see him go. Good
b Yeah back end of the year. It was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Was one of our best, to be honest, terrific bloke
taken more opportunities too, like it was the ball warm corner,
confident in that.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So is he like he's still there at the club
next year?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah? No, that he signed one all year Fellow Italian.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Fellow Italian.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know if you can play, though. I think
it's great. I think it's a great grand prayer. I
think so because I think it should be a bit
played by now. I mean, yeah, it's a long of YouTube. Boy,
you should be able.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it's a hot field in the hearts for really.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, Cooper got picked for leading them. Pulled out late.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh I had to because I was out of a
contract at the time. This was limbo and I either
risked going over and then my manly deal falling through
and then I get hurt over in Italy, or I
stay here, I grind, I keep working hard, I get
my deal and then look, I'm paying dividends. Now you

(05:43):
know what a year I had there.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Regretful not doing it when I look.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Back now, probably because we're doing a pretty cool trip.
But then you know what happens. Then then your preseason
start dates push back and then you're off to a
bit like unless I've been at a club for three
three years already, I'm comfortable. Then I can. You can
have the late start comfortable. No, never get hey, never
never ever feel can't ever give. You should always never
give in in the gym, he should never stick to
the same way. You always want to be increasing, even

(06:07):
if it's like two kids half, just keep getting these.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I actually didn't bench most of the year.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I had a few AC's in that so dumb bells
I can get probably like forty fives through.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, what are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Fifty five? I think walked into that one drinking?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yea drinks? Can I can? I bring up a story
that Dad always tells, and I know you you hate
it when he tells it because he had so much GST.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
There's going to be something else is going to be
added until it now.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
The story of you being a two can scream after
two beers that the night that we went into the
ivy with a bit of a crew. And Dad always
tells a story about him warning you not to drink
too much and then you coming home half an hour
later because you weren't allowed in anywhere. How do you
want to tell it your version? I want to get
drink his reaction and maybe if you see there's any

(06:58):
GST added, you can jump in drinks.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Actually yeah, well I'm sitting there watching your you blokes
to start to consume beer were drinking.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
It was one of you, was that random wing man man? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It made about about one hundred cars.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, they delivered like they delivered heaps to your randomly
for that year.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I used to drive around with them in the back
and I just give turn up a building size and
was give them the trades. Yeah, and they and they
were like, oh, you're Matthew Johnson. I say, yeah, just
I see you blokes working so hard all the time. Boys,
I just thought i'd bring a few came over and
they'd be like, funk, what a legend.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Any any pre that year, anytime you go to someone's
for preeze, I'd always go all like birthday, Oh, here
you go. And they were always like all right, because
it wasn't a beer that everyone knew, so they were
kind of like right. And they'd been sitting in the
garage so they were warm, and they had like black
dust all over it, not exactly which was good. Anyway,
back to the story.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh so you blokes are all drinking and I'm watching
you and I'm going, okay, if what's going on? And
the loudest of light was Scott drinking. Tore said maybe
you should drink water, and and last I said, hey, boys,
I said all this so so just a boys, just
put you've gotta be careful. Made in Sydney. You turn
up there to go to walk in somewhere. Honestly, if

(08:07):
you if this slur in a wood or anything, they won't.
And they're all pricks like that. Yeah, made, I'll be
all sweet and off you just go, and then you're
the first play back.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I would let anywhere.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's that that parts of.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I didn't get let in. They made me sit down
and drink the water, and my good mate bowling me.
He sat with me for a bit, and you know,
when they get let in, you're like half, I'm fine,
I'm fine. And then I had to have a few
orders and then ended up getting in there and then
we end up having a good time. And Jack used
to actually left early. He's left us out the dry
and then me and Bolo and Beryls and Finny Heath

(08:46):
Finny we were maccas and I was at the top
of the maccas just yelling.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
At Curtis Scott is wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Then imagine imagine being in a crew with Curtis Scott
and you're the one who didn't.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Get let in. You're the problem.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Must not say his name too. But there was also
another player there that might have spewed his guts up
in a taxi on the way to uh, we're on
the way to where they used to have those Halloween parties.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just on North.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Sydney, green green roof, no, greenwood.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Green war on the way there and we get there
and it's Buel over his guts. Remember now his initials
are C.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, I remember, Okay, can't help himself, Ken screamers.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
What's the first name.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
He was too much infant.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You've got the coloroid with him.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
And then you saw him there and they were carrying on,
and then you come back here and then he turned
up a bit louder.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Remember'll keep it, we'll keep it quiet. But he used
to live with us briefly, remember how good your memory?
Come on?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Used to live with us as player.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, used to live with this for maybe three four weeks,
played with Jack. Oh yeah, yeah you are I want
the tree?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah yeah he was. It was a sloppy drug, very
sloppy funny tho.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah he's not. He hasn't got a problem. Just
made that advertised. Yeah, want that? Scott the Central Coast
growing up as a young boy. Tell us about it.
Because we're not far away from the Hunter Region. I
sort of feel like the Central Coast and that Hunter
region going hand in hand, would you say the same?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Maybe not outsess not compared the terrible but you know
maybe the mainly merryweather a bit same.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well where you grow up is we would say, it's
like if if the Central Coast was a car dealership,
your minor would be a like a Nissan Pulsar and
Terrigo would be like a Rolls roast.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Would you say, probably, but maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Your minor is sensation.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
It's so nice. It's beautiful flat too. Yeah, it is
so nice.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
We played there, remember that. We played like a trial
game when I was at the Narrowena Hawks against your
minor bunnies, and we played out the front of like
a juvenile jail, like on some field in your minor
and which one. But they ended up being like four
of their kids got suspended in the first ten minutes.
They were just teeing off on anyone like bashing eye.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Your brism water or was it you might public school.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know, but there was like a jail like
right there. We could see barbed wire and.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
They were, oh no, that just would have been carry
on the juveniles and carry on.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I've actually I actually played touch footy against them when
I was in year seven school touch footy.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
We rocked up there.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
We walked in was opens and we reversed them and
we had like that, you know, give you the plastic
bottle was we had to give the lids back because
they can take little ships out of them. And then
as we're playing, we're about to kick off, and one
dude got moved to the maximum security.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
That we're about to play no way.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I did the same scary times.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I don't know what do you reckon? They're in there for?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh, it was very, very very nice. I remember we
did the same thing. We played and there was a
couple of really big dudes and there was one guy
they were all terrified of. He was a little Vietnamese guy,
but he was that terrified of Him're going, okay, I
wonder what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, they're usually like the leaders of some sort of gang,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, what do they call him over there? The
triads tadah.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Lovely people they are.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
They're very nice human beings, like they're just you know,
getting in the understood, correct.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I always stayed on the good side of those.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I always find it interesting Scott that young love right
and particularly you're you're an excellent case of love working
out in the right direction. You've got a beautiful family now.
But you and Osha your partner, you've been together since
what year? Nine?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I was your teen, she was here nine trade snatch
Terry go high school. She actually messages me first though,
So did she?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
What did she say? How does that happen?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
The funny?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I reffed her little brother in football, that's how she goes.
You refed my brother today?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
So what she said?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And I was wearing a.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Pink right, pink referee shirt, short black shorts and long
black socks.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
What legs must have been a good rev?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
And what? And how? How far after that message did
it all start?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
You know, kicked off pretty quickly, probably a couple of
months into it, and then started dating, met the family.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
So how long has it been now?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Then? It's like terrible, way, hot and heavy straight from
the start.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Two wedding anniversary on Tuesday. Holy yeah, just moving on
with life?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah your real family.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You two boys are flocks chicken.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I know when I when I start to see my
friends get married and have kids, it does start to
make me think, you know, maybe I should get going.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's too selfish. You reckon thirty years Patrishi, thirty years.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
This year July, No, sorry, January January. No, it's coming out.
It's coming out, yeah this January.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, there you go, Italy, take it down the color.
I have a nice meal.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I heard that's a good place.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
We'll go down later. I'll introduce you to people.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I'll ask you what like to have long relationships? Imagine
there's hard times, Imagine there's good times. What's the biggest
lesson you've learned your relationships? God, I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
The old clache is honesty. But sometimes yeah, maybe.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
The thing is that they're always right, spotted, always right,
if they're not just disagree.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Do you think is it the arguing thing? There's just
there's there, always found that a.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Little bickering, just the bickering passive aggress Yeah. And they
think they can do this better than you.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
And that's so what you're saying is to the people,
is it better to just roll over and just to
meet your wrong all the time?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Not all the time. There's a good time where you
stand up for yourself.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
But you've got to read the room spot, especially when
you have two kids as well, Read the room. If
I'm more there because they're tired, cranky, read the room
and just just let it go.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
But sometimes you need to stand up for yourself about honesty.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Not too much honesty. I'd say six out of ten
have your own little suit.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Think white lives are okay, little white lives. Scott, like,
is there anything that did you just blow your nose
into a tissue? You've got snot all over it?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Snot in your mustard? No, no, it's on your lucky
That is holy shit. Don't even edit that out. That
was amazing. It s Nott, you just blew that, just
blew his nose into a tissue, but then had snot
all in his mustard iCal tissue.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's you know those like kitchen wipes, stay paper town,
paper town kitchen. But anyway, boys, honesty, not too much honesty.
But I'm a drinking. One thing I have found is this,
and I did be reading on it, and it's factual,
is that when okay, when men, when when you have

(15:46):
an argument, right, Men's let's say anger peaks at about
one half two minutes, right, and you start to calm.
Women's peaks at about ten to twelve minutes, Which is
true because you know when you have an argument and
you go away and think about it. Yeah, I'll go
back and they're still going that way. Email so for

(16:07):
me and have a blue I just go book and
I actually leave the house. I'm going for an hour,
go down, have a coffee, come back.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's a great point because I often find that, like say,
if you and I fight, or Jack and I fight,
if we just don't talk to each other for an
arm and at the next morning, good as gold. Everyone's sweet,
everyone's forgotten about it. Everyone kind of has short term anger.
But if you do that with your partner or your
mother or a woman in your life, it's well like
you have to get on the front foot and solve
it because the longer you leave them all they have

(16:36):
time to think and the more they'll actually evolve it
into your head.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And then I'll be sitting on the couch and then
they'll go so and just look at you.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And you go like the boys are back. That Trisha's
ability to rewrite history is just she's like an adonisat
She is incredible. You just you can see her do
something sometimes and I'll say you did that, No I didn't,
and I'll say and I'll say, just don't worry. But

(17:06):
it's just honestly, just just let it go. Just let
it go. But two years coming up drinking that's good.
How many two girls?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Two girls?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Awesome two and a half and six months almost seven
months now.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So proud of you, thank you. Just coming back from yeah,
good family holiday.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Got the all inclusive package and the wife probably had
three cocktails all up.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So that was a waste of money.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
That was good. Trish rips we go there, yeah now,
but it was fun.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It was good for people over there, the Fiji people.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeh. The little one calls every Fijian buller?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Is that buller?

Speaker 4 (17:46):
And then when we come back here, if she sees
people that you know from Fiji or not.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Is that buller? Is that buller? Is that buller?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's a bad habit.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, it could be. It's not too it's well.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That's a dreambler about that.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, you know what's it is funny because if you're
a Fijian in a rugbya league side, I swear all
of their nickname is buller. Because yeah, he come at
me that he was just buller and he loved I
think he gave it to himself. He did, because he
just start saying, oh buller, like like I'm bullock. And
then but then even when I've played with other Fijians,
the boys called them buller as well.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Is proably the only one that we didn't call buller really.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Was that any two meets you know of gave Himsel's nicknames,
gave himself nickname Adam Dougal gave himself mad that.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, well the first one that comes to mind is
and we've spun this. I've spun this before. Christian Welch
used to try to call himself the White Rhino and
then we als to call him the Yeah, that was
so good. That was probably the best that was he
tried to and you know, like the best was the
best part about it was like when he first started
doing it, he'd say it in like general conversation, Like

(18:55):
I remember I was sitting there one time he was
telling a story. He was like, yeah, you know I was.
I was back with all my schoolmates and we're drinking
from Villanova and we're having a beer and then I
was doing like a streak. I was naked streaking and
all the boys going r R, and like just tried
to throw it into a story and I was like
I remember looking around, everyone was like, it's called himself rhino.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Effectively, he's wrong because the term white rhiner is related
to the color of the rhino. It's related to the
size of the jaw. He actually was white rhino. And
then the Honkys went there and they used to get
the mixed up and they just set up bug white rhiner.
So the white rhino it's actually should be it's it's
the jaw.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I said this to someone last night because when I
rang here, I was with my mate Harry Haywood and
his partner Alex. We were taught you come up in
conversation and she's met you once down at the Colaro
and she goes, you great, great place, really good and intro.
She was going. Your dad was sitting next to me
and he said he was telling me just the most

(19:59):
pointless his jury lessons. One on like the Algerian border,
and then there was another story about added ass and puma,
about the da and how like they they had a
feud and then one made added as one made puma.
But she goes where does like? She goes, why does
your dad know all this pointless information? And I said, Alex,

(20:19):
it's like he has stored all this information for conversation.
But it's like he's hit his It's like on an iPhone,
he's hit his maximum storage. So he's got all this
stuff and he would just whenever he has a new audience,
he just unloads all this storage onto someone.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Stuff could come here.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Ye, did you know that? You do know the history
of ad Pumid?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Do you ask him if he wants to know?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Do you want to know? Take me one minute? Yeah,
I have a Pumid and ambassador. So this is interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
What's the catch Do they have a catch cry? Do
they have like like puma responsibility that they don't have
like a slogan.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
We'll come up with fuman pants.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
So it starts they were the Dassler brothers, right, and
what they did they invented back in the day track
and field athletes would wear almost football boots, and they
invented the Dassler, which was the running spike. And then right,
we're going to get it on the world stage. So
they smuggled it to Jesse Owen, Jesse Owens in the
Nazi Olympics, right, gave it to him. Jesse Owens broke

(21:24):
all the records, I broke the world record, won all
these legend legendary anyway, World War two breaks out. Anyway,
they got conscripted to get into the German German Army.
But what happened was Addie was a bit of a
man around town and he got himself out of national
service and didn't go to war. And his brother Rudy
went to war and was captured by the Allies and

(21:45):
was a prisoner of war. Anyway, when he came out
and returned to Stuttgart, he found out that Addie had
a relationship with his girlfriend while he was in the
prison of war camp. So he said, I'm going to
dissolve the company of the Dassler company. I'm going to
go across the river stood Guard and I'm going to
ruin the company start my own brand. So das Werd
become Addie dass and Rudy Dassel started Puma.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
There you go in Algeria.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
No, No, in Germany.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Where did you get Algeria?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
The mixed stories.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I have actually caught a German.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I should know that. Yeah, German. Granddad was from Wurtzburg.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
You're like Frankfurt.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I went to Frankfurt luck last year.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Actually, you're a fan of like Bratwurst and things like that.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, I didn't want the brat worst. I went October
Fairs and the pork knuckle do a good pork knckle?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Did you have us October? I've always wanted to go.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, it was a great trip.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
It was my brother's Bucks party, so get out Josh
brad the eldest, the accountant.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Bradley the account great place to go.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Great, it was Germany's Great. Do you have a reputation
in the Germans? AnyWho?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I just I literally just saw my career flash from
my eyes. This is going to bring the podcast on.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Stuff was funny.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
But four ingredients of the beer? You don't get hung
over over there? Legally they can only have four ingredients,
are pretty sure?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah? Right? The East Order and probably they say that
the purest beer you buy to boylose becks. That's what
I was told my mate Brian Carney when he come
against mate, buy becks who won't get a hangover. So
we bought some. I wake up at the morning full fuck,
I'm glad I haven't got a hangover.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Probably defeats the purpose if you have a hundred of them.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Hey, let's get get to some of the Melbourne storm
stories because we played the other down there. But first
I wanted to ask you because you're the kind of
player drinking right who is very attack focus.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I mean I would like similar to like a Reese Walsh,
a Billy Slater, somebody who puts a lot of energy
into attack. And sometimes that can come with their it's
great watch, great to watch, excellent to watch, and that's
what every regular league team needs. But initially you and
Craig Bellamy's relationship because he's someone who probably doesn't encourage
that kind of football, very defensive mindset. How was that

(24:00):
relationship early on?

Speaker 4 (24:02):
It wasn't too bad here, I think at the probably
the first year, kind of probably a bit nice to
me at times, and yeah, look I did take a
fair bit of risk and the defensive side of it.
Night stuff wasn't my main priority, so probably got frustrated
a little bit with them anyway, Yeah, exactly when I
remember when I first went down there, I had really
bad hands. I couldn't catch the ball a lot, really, Yeah,

(24:24):
I just struggled with a concentration maybe or think about
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And yeah, there was honestly opened a couple of weeks
in a.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Row there where I was getting abused every session for
dropping the ball, and I.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Was like, blood, this guy is a lunatic. Yeah, looking
back on now, we probably need to get a little
bit more.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
But I remember some of the stuff you used to
do at training because I used to watch, like out
the clips, I watched training back all the time. I
loved Tuddle.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I was slight for Huddle.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I loved it. I used to watch all the training
back and I would always watch. I'd love watching you
on Huddle all the time, just because you were so attacked,
focused all the time, and geezu, you had some sessions
where you would put seven eight tries on, but then
you had some sessions where, you know the opposite, you
didn't put tries.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Consistent, inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, it's hard when you when you're thinking attack all
the time, it's hard to execute. You can't exit you
to one hundred percent that transition. Yeah, how did how did
bell do you find belly? It helped you in terms
of being selective and when you have that mind.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Probably not down there.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I still was probably a bit immature in that way,
and I was probably yeah, still not really thinking about
what he was wanting me to do or the coaches
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I was still just doing my own thinking in my
own world.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
I think it was more when I got up to
towns or Yeah, Toddy Payton randed in a lot, and
then obviously you get older, you understand more about what's needed.
But yeah, when I was down there, it was yeah,
all or nothing.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Really it's kind of hard as well, because you're underneath
Billy Slave. Yeah, I was saying, slutsy is the exact.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, so he was the.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Man because like you do someone at training and didn't
pay off, it didn't come off. He'd come back and
they'd be like, he'd throw it again. If you get
that look, throwed again. But then on the other side
you got Will Chambers like spray and the going, oh
you think it Will, I think Taylor Brad this and.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
That spray me.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
And then I got Billy doing this, Chambers spraying me.
I'm like, I don't know. And then BILLYX at the
bat like this.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So many different mindset stick and then but.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, Billy was a man for that. He did I
just go and do it.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I used to.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
That surprised me so much, like his mindset when he
could go. You know how when you're a young blot.
You make an error and kind of the next ten
to fifteen minutes it's like you don't want to make
an error, so your mindset completely shifts into just doing
safe options. We're a bloke who's like Billy, who has
all these highlights, but he had his errors as well.
He'd do an error and then thirty seconds later do
the exact same thing, but he'd execute it and then

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everyone was like, he's amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
The first year when I went to Melbourne in two
thousand and six, the first half of that year, Billy
was horrendous, like you know, like that when he got
dropped back to the Bears, dropped back to the Bears.
I remember playing it in two thousand and four or three.
That was the Kiach. Yeah, that chip. But that year
whatever happened, mate, I remember they got off to a

(27:08):
bit of an inconsistent start. About halfway through the years
they caught fire, won the minor premiership and made the
Green from got beaten. But in the middle of that
year Billy was all over the shop and that was
Remember one day is the only time I've ever been
in a box with belly Ach. After that went fucking
never getting in there again, he was just blasting mate
and he kicked Billy kicked one of the players, Chris Hynington.

(27:28):
I think he grooted him and kicked him. Yeah, and
he got suspended and Billy aate just went and dropped
him for a couple of weeks back in North Sydney.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You know, it's like weird. I remember, I think such
he told us about that time because they got him
up to speak about boys who potentially get dropped back
and how you should go like an attitude wise about it.
Apparently when he went back to North Sydney he played
horrendous as well. I think I think he even played
worse than he had been in first grade, which is
so like you. A lot of people expect NRL players

(27:58):
to go back to reserve grade and kill it, but
sometimes it can actually be harder.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Because everyone expects you to do something.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
But also the system around you isn't as strong.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
But adrenaline is so important. Adrenaline and nerves are the
things that make you do amazing stuff. That's like. There
was a great book by Mike Tyson that he was
taught custom Artis said. He says about how does the
antelope survive with the lion it's adrenaline. You have to
be nervous, you have to fear to succeed, and that's it.
When you go down to a lower grade, sometimes you
don't think of that as much, and you're cruising and

(28:29):
you're going to I want to be back, and that
doesn't serve itself right. It doesn't matter where you are,
it doesn't mean what great. You've got to have nerves
and you've got to have fear.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I reckon the best reserve grade game. I still tell
people this. The best reserve grade game I've ever seen
of any player was Scott drink Water. You remember this
game I'm about to talking about. I think it was
twenty nineteen eighteen East Tigers versus North Devils. It might
have been Bishop Park. I believe they play the bash

(29:00):
up mate. I tried to find I was telling someone
on the piece the other day and I was trying
to find the highlights of I couldn't find it. If
anyone can dig it up with their listening to just
mating East Tigers versus Norse Devils, that I remember. The
next day you came in and you put you brought
up the highlights before we went into a team meeting.
And I think it was me. You and Harry were
watching like you tries and try sis. I think you

(29:21):
had a hat trick. Yeah, and you scored off a
kickoff the kickoff. You scored off a kickoff. It was
I don't think I've ever seen someone have highlights like that.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I remember, you know, you see that rate your game
and then the other player coach and rate it.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So I go on in and I was.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Fuck thinking, look that's it.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
If that's not a ten, I don't know what it
is because someone got a ten couple weeks before anyway,
So I think I put myself tonight as you do.
And Markey Burtnell gave me nine, and I don't know
what got into me. I was like, I don't talk
to him about this. I think that's a ten.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I don't know what got into me, but I was
so happy with that.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
We walked in and other conversation I can't remember we
got ten couple weeks before or nine, And I was like,
and that was.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
In an roll and I'm playing kick cup and I'm
comparing the pair.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
But I was like like, yeah, going through all this stuff,
and then in the end of market Retnald just goes, yeah, yeah,
you're right, and then just put a ten in there,
and I walked.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Off because that system used to be you go in,
you give yourself a rating, and the coach will give
you their rating. It was like basically, I suppose it
was like accountability system, like to see where you raided yourself,
and Jesus, it used to be brutal. So I'm always
to go in there. Sometimes you go I think I
played an eight, and then they come in and give
him like a five or something, and it.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Was and that like it'd be there all year, all
the rounds, and one day they had one red like
and heat like six or seven greens and they're pretty harsh.
And then Macky Petnall goes, oh, drinking, what do you
think that was? He's like serious, looking at me, look
off me, and he's like, what do you think that
was a six? And I was like, oh, you know,
just one of those days. I was like, it was

(30:49):
just one of those days. And that was my answer
in there, like I wanted more from me, and I
just kept going no, Honestly, I think it was just
one of those days, you know, one of those days.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I don't know what more what probably I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I've had a really I find that a strange system. Uh,
not so much that one. I remember a few of
the old boys. We went to Newcastle one day for
a training that they played someone the day before. We
went and they invited us, you know, to watch your
training session. And one of the players were there and
they started by writing down a bit of paper as
far as physical exertion. How tough that game was? Out
of ten right anyway, one of the players wrote five, right,

(31:27):
and the coach went up to him and said, oh,
you wrote five, and he goes, yeah, you know, and
he goes, but it's strange because I saw you're walking
a few times and he goes, oh yeah, I reckon
it was more like an eight. He went sweet eight.
I was sitting here, how fucking.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Ridiculous, and he's a weird system.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Going back to that game, my lunch to the game
was two sausage rollers from the servo in the maxicicab,
and the way of the game got there did that
the next week.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I was like, I'm doing that again.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
It felt like shit, blady like shit, And I was like, well,
that wasn't the reason why I played. I stuck with
it for another week and then.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, Best came over played in reserve grade. I was
on the drink night for the game. We went we're
in cesnot playing Brisbane. The next day we had to
get flight up to Brisbane, me and my mates. We
used to go on drink in Sesnox so the club
wouldn't find us. We're on the source till three o'clock.
When back a couple of hours sleep. Had to go
to newcas JP playing book and we won, but the
Broncos and Reserve grade, and I got Meno the Master,

(32:23):
and I said, I'm to fucking do that. Next week
again did it again? Worst game with him.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I did the exact same thing I remember. Best came.
I over played in Reserve grade. Sunny Coast First Townsville
Blackhawks two thousand and nineteen. Two days before I was
on the pisce with Joey in Melbourne Crown Casino and
JT because they'd been commentating the Storm game and I
had to wait because I was eighteenth nineteenth man and
then fly up the next day and I had a
massive night, slept on Joey's hotel room floor and then

(32:50):
had to go straight to the airport to fly up
to towns or to play on the Saturday. Played killed.
It played outstanding. Even the coach came back. They said, mate,
whatever you did in your preparation, keep it saying, you know, sweet,
I found my blueprint. I'll get on a piece two
days before I did it. The next week they took
me off a half time. It was horrible. It's not sustainable,
but short term, I reckon it makes you play good

(33:11):
because you feel guilty and you try harder.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
But my former debut one of my first ever games
against Manley, I actually was onto my third beer on
the hill and got the call, Yeah, first play it
against many. I've played the last twenty five minutes and
literally and me and the boys we played twenty ones
and we just went over put our city's on. So
we went over on the hill onto my third beer.
Got to call Matthew Johns, who caught a report to

(33:36):
the dressing room. Oh they've caught me drinking because he's
not supposed to. Weren't supposed to drink until the first
grade games finished. When the first grade captain cracks a fish,
everyone can right something, go fucking man busted went over
there and they said, Magi gear on, Neil up and
I've gone, oh, no fucking hell.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
But you only got to play one first go game
at Melbourne.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah, one of the I thinks the best first only
game for a Storm ever played. That's right, remember because
it was a game who was it that against Penrith Penrith?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
And then I remember you scored you should have scored
two tries and they took one off here and then
you scored one off? Was it Kenny Brumwich little offload
around the corner? What was that? What was that experience that?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
That was a mad game, mad to play. When my
first try was this, lad, I was filthy?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Was that off a kick?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Na?

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I just got actually just gooseyed around James Maloney's right. Yeah, yeah,
they took it off me. And obviously when you have
a debut, everyone's got money in any time try to score.
So I was more like thinking I've just cost all
these boys money. I was more like, you're kidding me.
And then around that next play and then it was
going to be like Riley Jack's pushing through. I was like,
next layer, but I was like, no, screw if he's

(34:42):
running adriftline here if he puts his nose getting the
try of Jackson and just comes in and passed him
and got it, and then I could even celebrate. But
because we had it was like four minutes left and
we were like it was for the minor premiership and
that put us within four and I was.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Just about to carry on and care Smith rons up
at me and just goes.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Then then we've got his.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Dog back and how one got around me? I was like, sweep.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, drinking, you're one of the best off sceon. Often
when people come around in sweep shapes. You see fullbacks
or even playmakers rip around on sweep shaped Oftentimes they're
either in a pass mode or in a run mode.
You're very good coming around almost like identifying your target
defender going at him. You're a massive run threat. You
can do the double cut out as well. Like what

(35:25):
do you think about when you're ripping around on those lines?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, obviously depending on what team your verse and how
their system is, but you just yeah, honestly, I'm just
looking at more so than with the winger, see how
tight and tidy is and always trying to get my
winger to.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Like lead in the space at speed.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Billy was always talking about Brett Morris and how good
he was, like he caught the ball at full throttle.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You don't want to break your stripe.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, so that's always I'm kind of thinking about the
opportunity in my winger has outside their winger, and then
obviously if they start to get a bit spaced out nervous,
then you run.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But do you have a preempt Like if you sit
there and you watch tape leading into the game and
you notice that you know that they've got a system
where you know, like if the center makes a bad decision,
then the winger jumps into the fire as well and
follows him in. Do you watch tape and gay right,
I'm going to that's the first play I think.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You know when I used to throw that long border
felty that a lot of that was pretty empty. And
knowing that if I can burn the back row and
get the half, everyone's going to defend their inside shoulders. Yeah,
So it's kind of just like a touch footy play
almost like four or three. So it's kind of just, yeah,
I know if they're all going to defenside shoulders, but
then on the other side, it was more I was
passing the veil because he just runs such a hard line,

(36:34):
Yeah and hard. The tackle was more like, yeah that way,
I'm just I'm hitting the valil because he's runn through
two of the score.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Okay, let's imagine for a second. You've got to you've
got a really good defensive winger, who's got who defends
two principles. Senate goes in, he's going to gym as well.
But then you've got another bloke who's a bit of
a wild card, and he makes a lot of bad decisions,
but he's just sort of instinct that.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, Terry Evans is probably the most upsetting defender I've
ever had to play against. Like you just don't know
what he's doing when no one follows in, but it
throws you off, It throws everyone else's timing off.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And he yeah, he's probably rund it in a little bit.
I reckon. Yeah, he used to used to be everywhere.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Twenty twenty one days off he do intercept, he'd go
for it like halves never go for intercepts, like they
never and you never, you never trained. But he'll like
red passes off front rowers and go and do intercepts
or he'll jam you when a half like shouldn't jam yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, And like Recee Walsh, you know he bullshited in
the Grand File with Ellie Bang and then.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Jumped Selwyn Cobbo. Remember there was a year Selling Cobbo
was the same where every there was a stat every
single time it was a two on one down his side,
like he went for an intercept one hundred percent of
the time. And I remember Marky Brenton Will pulled it
up and he said, boys, whatever you do if you
get on a tour one with Sell and Cobbo, don't
pass it. Because he showed every single clip he says

(37:53):
he has done it nine en times and nine en
for nine een he's just gone for an intercept. Imagine
as a coach, you'd be off it. But I think
three of the nine and he actually got the It
was a.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Two on one in the NRL, like they should score.
They're just drawing past. So I'm more for gun. You
may as well as well, like no point, just turn
it in and let him pass it. Do something fake him.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, I think, like you know, having a hard and
fast rule where you go mate, Okay, this guy always
goes outside in and you mate, it confuses me. You're
far better someone to say to a to a winger.
Hey listen, this is out. You know, this is what
we like to do. However, if you said something, mate,
you just want to.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Go Yeah, I gotta go down for we're just talking
about your debut year twenty eighteen. At the end of
that year, the Boys mate the Grand Final against the
Roosters and they ended up losing that game. That's not
part of this story. But do you remember because we
were up we were up in Sydney that we came
up early as the Renegades like, and the role of
us as the Renegades were drinking was Teddy. You were

(38:50):
to mimic James tedesco Riley Jackson was Cooper Crounk. I
was Luke Keary. So like on the opposite side, we
train them as best we possibly can for how they're
going to play. It didn't workause they've got beat. But
I remember during the week they gave us an allowance
and I remember the first night me and you remember
me and you went to a like into a park
we remder the casino, and I put it all on
this horse and it won. I was playing like nine

(39:12):
bucks and I put it all the whole allowance on
the horse. I think the allowance was like a few
underd bucks. I think I was about three, yeah, five
hundred bucks there and cleaned up. We won. Anyway, flash
thorward to the because it's places to be on a
drinking band. We can say this now because we're seven
years past our statue now, but we are.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
We got it.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I ended up getting in trouble because the day before
the day of the game, me and Driggy were in
my hotel room raiding my mini bar.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Winner.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
And I remember because I remember when we got on
the bus the next day. Frankie goes, oh, mate, like
the cleaners went through your room like that night and
they found like they found that you drank all your
mini bud, like we know that you drank before the game.
And I was like, yeah, I did, I did. I
was just I got a problem anyway. And I remember
the when the boys are running through the tunnel because
me and you were kind of pissed at this stage.

(40:04):
We were screaming at him. We were come on, boys,
give it to these roosters coming out. I remember the
boys up the game mate. We were so naked, just going,
come on.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
And then at halftime they were that Dame was like
it was quite dominant, like I think it was when
coober Crunk did his shoulder. I think we were down
like sixteen and a half, but it was like pretty
dominant like and we were sitting there like blinding the crowd.
No one's down, and we're shit, this is melancholy. And
then we went in the sheds after the game. It
was me, you and Harry. We were like, were the
young guys. It was Slatsy's laugh to a game. Billy

(40:38):
saida's last game. So it was like, yes, it was sad,
but what a career he's had. So we got on
the speaker and we sat on the speaker and remember
we were blair and music. But all the boys actually
liked it. I took their head off the game. The
coaches and that didn't like it at the time. We
didn't know this at the time, but they didn't. Frank
was no fan of it. Frankness anyway, we're going and
I remember were sitting there taking request from Smithing, all

(41:00):
the all the older boys, what do you want? What
do you want to play?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Everyone was having to just started to switch the vibe
in their boys going, you know what, we lost, but
Slatty's last game. And then Frankie going, right, boy, he's
going to go back to the hotel. The family's waiting
for us there. Let's go and enjoy a drink with
their families. And then I remember who and Harry required
piercely stage, We're going, Frankie, one more song, Billy, Billy
wants one more song. It's his last game, and Billy
just kept requesting the same song. I still remember Castaway,

(41:23):
Zach Brown, Ben, Frank I want Castaway. So then we
would have been there another two hours listening to Castaway
and repeat. We finally get back and I think Frank
pulled me, you and someone else as we got off
the bus. He pulled us to the side.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Remember Curtis, it.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Was someone It was another young lad and now because
I think Crafty was playing someone else who wasn't playing,
and he pulled his side and he said, hey, boys, like,
I know he's having a good time and that, but
just rein it in because I want us to know.
These boys in there, they're hurt and they just lost
a Grand final and were sitting there going oh, we
started to wigging out, and then we went back to
the boys and said like and the which one with

(42:00):
you guys, and thank you? Told us we get like
pull our heads in a little bit because like, yeah,
he's we've been joined ourselves after a loss. And they
go funk that don't worry about it, like you have
turned down mood around.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And then I was remember I did the slug and
had the massive sky hang.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Can you just like just repeat that in a way
that elaborate on what you mean when.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
The slugs like the worm, but like you do you
start on your knees and then put your face forward.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I had like this massive scab like this.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
We had our presentation and I've got this and I've
just got this massive scab there. It got infected. It
was getting all over my pillows oozing. But the slug,
the slug went off of the default.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
People were actually loving it when you got around you
because remember the next morning most of us basically went
through straight to the bus, right, maybe a couple of
hours of sleep or whatever, but the bus is picking
up was like seven eight am. Like anyway, we're sitting
in there, everyone's on the bus wounded, Sonny's are on
and I remember me and drinking is sitting next to
each other and we're still like pretty blind and we're

(43:10):
just like we're about to fly back to Melbourne to
basically launch straight in the mad Monday. Everyone had their
costumes ready like it was going to be a big day.
And Tom Eisenhoof, he was sitting right behind us, and
he was he was asleep, but he had he had
his mouth completely open. He was asleep with like this
mouth over like a clown at the surface that goes
down pop ping pong balls and drink. He goes looks

(43:31):
back at him and he goes film this. The video
films back and he's got a beer and drink. He
just pours a whole the whole schooner into his mouth.
Remember is is like most people would have woken up
and spat it out. Isa upon waking up just goes
oh and gold and just swallowed the whole beer and

(43:51):
then just goes oh. And he just could not get
back to sleep, like he hit him straight.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
You got that, You've got the video, I've got the video.
We're going to play. We're going to play.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Another grand final story.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
It was twenty twenty seventeen when they won it and
Curtis said, Curtis played, so he won, and we're drinking that,
and then there was I can remember it was what
have been like one of the brom which has had
vodka is making up, making us do shots, and that anyway,
I'll go to the toilet.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Curtis is in there.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Anyway, Curtis walks out, goes back in the room and
Cooper Krunk walks in the toilet and I'm fox spawing
in the toilet and he goes, fuck me drinking, You've
just spewed up all over the fucking the carpet.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I was that drunk. I went out there and picked
it up.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
It was like I was running from coop spray.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I thought it was fine.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
The next morning it was, what are you so cruel?

Speaker 3 (45:05):
What it's going to make your vom just.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Thinking about it?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
What imagine it's not jack? You don't spill on your jack.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I was so rattled, rattleb Curtis w was here is
And then I was like Gordy.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Told the story that when they went away.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
On you don't stringing your water just for the listeners.
Didn't know that just nearly vomited.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
All laughed, probably admitted there.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
One of the biggest pews I've ever had. What's the
biggest I've ever had? When they went and had tie,
had a time meal. I had a boy.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Jake, he's got the laughing bug. Did just that water
just ran the wrong way, just goes.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
T I'm going to tell this story. I'm going to
brace myself because I could every time.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Maybe I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
That's that's water. By the way, when I think of
this story, I don't even don't tell you. I want
to hear it.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
So I went to I went to got some some
tie up in North Sydney, and I've got it. You
know they get the tie in the box you the
boss take away and I've gone. It was the chicken
pad tie. I've gone. Next minute, I've gone something really chilly.

(46:45):
I looked at it was a bend ate.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Well if you heard that, you know that Dan Gorrige
dfl Dane does his story about the protein shaker.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
No, oh, is this going to make him?

Speaker 4 (47:11):
They walk up the field and have a protein shake
out of like a slushy machine or or whatever. And
the boy started as it tasted pretty funky, honestly.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
It takes you like four minutes to tell the story.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Keeps going drinking maggot that is how does maggots getting here?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oh? That is?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
That is all that Now, Just for the listeners, you've
been on a roller coaster the last ten minutes of
laughter and vomit. That is probably the greatest ten minutes
of listening that we might ever have in our life.
That's amazing. Just want to acknowledge that blowman, those.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
That is all time spit and border take this back.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
That's gotch and soda jacket. He great, I'm sure you're
like that. He's got covered in spewel over it. Going
to the going to the Cowboys because the next year,
to let people know we had huse you on previously,
and he told the story about how he went from
basically third string to first string due to injury. Because
you were that year two thousand and nine and after

(48:24):
Billy s later retired, you were the first string. Like
you did every rep, you were going to be there
round one, you were training outstanding. You come back as
fit as you ever had, and hughsly come back basically
a slob. After being he went as eighteenth man to
the kiwis camp and come back one of the biggest
slobs I've ever seen. He ran like the worst. Yoo Ever,
then you you do your peck in a trial and

(48:44):
you lose, you have for eight weeks and you basically
go from first straight to third string behind perhaps and Hus.
Imagine that would have been pretty.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Tough for you.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah, that was like probably the worst period I've had
in maybe my rugby league, other than losing a lot
of games in own Personally, that was off.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
And yeah, I remember when I did it.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I come off and I was I was so like,
I've never done it, like a major injury, so I wasn't.
I was sicking that I've done nothing. And then Jones
is like pretty much telling me lad, He's pretty much
telling me that I've done it, and I'm still like,
I haven't done it.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
I haven't done it. Go out the room.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
No pain killers either, they did they they took no
pain killers. So like I'm looking, they have a torn
peck in agony. All the boys have gone out mackay
and I'm depressed. But that was a tough period.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
That was.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
I couldn't watch a round one the boys played bron
because I think I couldn't watch it because I just
had one game, had like a taste of it.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I just like loved it.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I just wanted it so bad.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
And then yeah, seeing perhaps hughs you kill it and
then perhaps come off the bench, and he was killing it.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
He was taking hit ups and scoring one.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
He come off the as a lock and was scoring
one hundreds.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
So half a few weeks sitting there, you kind of
kind of realization that probably my held and Storm days
are over. So that was a little bit tough because
I love being down there in that but you know,
either long obviously they went on to win a premiership.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I think I think it was I think it was
good for you too. I think the change was good
for you too, because like looking back, not that not
that you wouldn't have like Melbourn wouldn't have brought the
best out of you as well, but I think that
that Cowboys style of footy has really suited you as well.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, we'd played pretty expensive and trying to move the ball,
and yeah, so that's it's been good up there.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
When we've that year because you went midyear to the
Cowboys after obviously when you come back from your pack
and it was obviously the conversation with you and Frank
Ponisi and bet they were good enough to let you
go given the circumstances. That's probably pretty rare that a
bloke goes from first string to third and they have
two quality fullbacks. Were any other clubs knocking on the
door apart from Cowboys that year.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Nah, not really.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
I think it was more just yeah, just them, maybe
one other. I'm not going to mention them, but I'm
not going to mention it. Just do the others gonna.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Can you give us the state in the state?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, the state like New South Wales? Yea, yeah, because
I could have I could have moved close.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
To the home, so it was a New So Wales team.
How close to home?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah? Yeah, give me a carrot, a horse?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Oh no, rabbit, rabbit?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
No, no, no, I'm.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
But I guess probably probably moving up there probably also
good for me too, not being close to home still
as a young kid, and.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I have ever since been up there with Dragon.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Stop stop guessing, yeah, stop interrupting his story.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Come on, sorry, Scott, But yeah, when I remember flying
in the towns, I've only been there to play and
it was bone dry.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I was singing, I was on the window. I was like,
what the fuck I ever got myself into? Up? Like,
what am I doing? I've just left the Melbourne city
so much.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Happening, twenty one year old kid, and I was like,
what am I doing for you? But probably half an
hour I've gone down on the street and seeing all that,
I was like, oh no, this is But then I
enjoyed Melbourne great.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah, like Melbourne's like Melbourne's a lot of fun that
the weather's not awesome, but the city is great, and
the squad and the camaraderie down there it's second. And
we had such a good crew down there, young crew.
We had a great young obviously Harry and I were there.
You were living with Brandon Smith, Brodycroft and Curtis Scott.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
In one house which which one is young one out
there crafty.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
He moved out so he still paid rent with us.
He moved out with his missus. Mate.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
We were too much for him, so he moved out,
paid rent there, lived with his missus. W there was
his wife paid rent there like he just couldn't handle
us anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Happened.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
He Nico moved in with us.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
And I don't make you probably would have been too much.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
For happened when Crafty Coming stayed at our house and
he was he was there for Frank, see him down
for a few days, see him up for a few days.
And we're sitting over couch, Trish and I and I'll
just ignore that one, and and we sit there watching anyway.
I put Once Warriors on and make watch this movie.
It's pretty heavy though, And then me and Tris started

(53:12):
having a bit of an argain about some The next minute,
Crofty goes Tris, where's he going? So I don't know,
he's probably just up to getting changed. Crafty you're there.
He went up and put himself to bed. He just removed.
It must have been bad.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
He's a good I was actually his best man. Was
his best man.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
How's he going?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He's gone good? Leads leads, Yeah, yeah, there's gone good
over he's on a big deal. So outf and then
got the transfer.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
But I had a lot of had a lot of
unfair criticism coming up to he had to fill on
big shoes. But Jeezy was a good Blan crafty legend.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Such a such a stiff, but he was the type
of guy you'd go to the I know I'm going
to the movies with him.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I like treats, but I would buy one less packet
than what I needed.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Yeah, so I would buy like one less because I
know he would have.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
He'd sit there, he'd have like.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Eight eight little male teasers and then going do you
want to Yeah, that was his goal, and he'd have
like you know, when you open a block two squares,
I've had the taste.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'd just look at him like, oh, here's the best.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
He was, Honestly, one of the best I've seen is
like an eight year old kid to be that professional.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Remember when you walk you walk into his bedroom and
he just had like just messaging everywhere, Remember just like
believe or like just different like messaging of his routine.
And then remember Brandon one time when he snuck into
his room, Brandon Smith and he built a fake Cooper Crunk.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Shriy, Yeah, candles are on it and said, don't be
Cooper two point zero b brodiere Crofty one the one something.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I was being interesting reality show. He had two rooms.
In one room, you put Cooper Krunk and Brodie Crofts
in the other room camera monster and could a Scott
right out? What would happen for.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
A week yeah, because it was it and I remember
we had it because your house, that house you had
that it ended up being sort of the source for
a lot of our parties and whatnot. I mean Crofty's
twenty first we had at that house, which a few holes. Yeah, typical,
similar to like how Jack destroys a lot of stuff
in this house that that party put a lot of holes.

(55:23):
There was a lot of I'll just we'll just ignore that.
There was a lot of fighting going.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Out to two big outphaits, two enforces to enforces and
like yeah, board onto the street. Nothing was thrown, no punches,
but it was a big commotion and there was like
twenty of us just.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Going on, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I remember it was going off because remember it started
at the back of that patio. I remember We're all
sitting down and I was sitting next to Felice and
he was playing one of the songs that he used
to just relentlessly play over and he used to fall
in love with one song for a whole year, I remember,
And didn't he just repeat it and we wouldn't hear
anything else, And we were just sitting there and everyone
was sitting there watching it. No one was really doing anything,

(56:06):
just letting the two alphas go at it. The only
person that stood in between them and he was getting
he was getting pushed around quite a bit, was our
strength and conditioner Dan. He was going, oh, come on, boys,
let's all, let's all be full of love. He's the nicest,
he's the best bloke in the world, unbelievable strength and

(56:27):
conditioner as well as good as they come. And he's
in there and everyone loved him. So he thought, oh,
they won't push me around or getting between them, and
they were just pushing him around like like literally there
was a little kid. Yeah, Oh he was funny.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
It was a good time.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Running through the cows. What's the cow in comparison, Like,
like I talked about that camaraderie there do they? I
imagine the cowboys would be quite similar.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Where Obviously it's like a I guess a big I
mean drinking social community a bit, and I guess the
cows have always embraced the locals in that way. And
everything's twenty minutes away, so you livey minutes from everyone.
So if there's a shin dig happening and that like
most people are turning out, most of them coming and
so we're all together, all doing that.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Well.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I went up and visited you this year, and like
your squad is tight. It was a lot of good blows.
Like so when you have a good squad and you
want to hang around each other, you want to have
a beer together.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
If you're going to go away, right, and you had
to pick three through the Cowboys players to go away
with have a good time, to have a good time,
have a good time.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Who do you take to have a good time? I'm
taking Tommy Didon. I love Tom, loved Tom didn't he?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Little Jack Ross he no fast about him. Just get up,
we're doing this.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
We'll have to be here, Yes, sweet Probably Carl Lawton.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Lord Cougar's man.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Probably Lord just organizer, can get just does that and
also no fast and good dude and just a good blow.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Who's the last? Who am I taking?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Last?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Gryffin Dey can match it with the best of them.
The big boy, the big the big what right? I
think he's the one right over?

Speaker 3 (58:02):
He is I've heard, I've heard.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
When I went up and visited you and I had
some appearances at the Mad Cow Gryffindor he's made his
face is basically on the door. He's the face of the.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Mad five spender.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
He's got to be Colin to.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Jake Clifford were it once in their twenties days they
were like top five spenders at mad Care.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You really yeah, yeah, great place.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, anyone going up to Townsville. The nightlife there is
and the Madhower, it's a great great for a bit.
You always have fun.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
When the cowboys first coming to the Colt drinking when
they're in come in in ninety five, you go up
for an away game and like you know, when you
get a city that was just hanging to get into
the NRL and suddenly they got themselves a team and
every every time, like the away teams to go, they'd
be fitted like heroes, like yeah there are so you
get you can get off the plane. And there were

(58:56):
there were blokes who represented all the nightclubs and bars
standing on the with free tickets. Just give them free
tickets to you for after the game, Like honestly, you
get up there, mate, The game was like secondary, yes,
may get this eighty minutes out of the way.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It is we're going to lose out mate.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
We had we had trouble winning up there like quite
a bit because we weren't. We went up there and
tried to play our style of football really open and
moved the ball around, and we weren't ready for the conditions,
like you know, because it was so hot and the
ball ended up being really slippery. Later on we worked out, mate,
just get up there and do less to keep getting
repeat sets and try to burn them out. But did

(59:34):
do you remember the time we fletch and I interviewed
you blokes and there was a push up competition, mate,
Tommy did and went down and I remember your your
media bloke just goes, mate, he'll he'll smash this, and mate,
we almost had to stop him. That's enough. Whereas some
of the other players. I remember Dylan Brown. It was
hilererois Dylan Brown. Dylan Brown. Brown did pretty pretty good,

(59:55):
but every push up he just he would he wins
all the way through. Oh mate, my back's a bit still.
This is really tough, Helen. We got to just go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
But did It was just mentally tough that like nine weeks,
won't run, won't do anything, come back run the bronco.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
The one point up there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
A young kid actually beat him this year and I
reckon he's that competitive. So he lost his one point two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Record up there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
It was like this young kid, Zach Hurdigan beat him
by a second, but like did and that this Hurdigan
can run, and but Tommy doesn't run at all. So
he comes back after chrisy If playing for Australia, runs
a four to twenty five, gets done by a second.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Burning, but he's burning.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
He didn't shut, he didn't say anything, but like Jordan
McClean with that three little jabs and he burnt about
losing that time. So obviously he's on the ashes too now.
But I'm expecting Tommy to come, maybe run a few
times in the off season and then come back and get
his record.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
But it's pretty impressive to see, like it's four twenty
five that you're flying anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
I'm four thirty one and I am like dead, dead horse.
I'm on the ground like next real, I'm out, can't
do it. But he just walked around this after he's
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
That was tough.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I spoke to one of the Tigers, one or two
of the tigers Blakes, I was chatting and told me
Lachlan Galvin, it's insane. Sixteen or something. There's not much
of him, but yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Still like a Kenyan marathon runner. It looks like it
could absolutely run all day. We've taken a lot of
your time. But before you finish up, I want to
ask you the Ashes Tour at the moment that you've
been thrown around a couple you're adding for me in
New South Wales previously, I mean it's a red hot
field for New South Wales as the number one. Is
it still a dream for you presentative Jersey?

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Yeah, definitely, I think. I mean, yeah, obviously this year
didn't have the best season. Consistency was so I thought
pretty good. Yeah, I'd probably said a few every game,
probably a few. I thought I had a few bad
things happened that was detrimental to us. But yeah, definitely
still as a dream.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Obviously there is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
A lot of great players in that one position from
him so far. So yeah, look, just got to probably
start fast next year in Vegas, so you get off
for yeah, start play well and then I mean, you know,
obviously you know Teddy's killing at the moment, and you
know him and Deal obviously probably the top two and
then there's a few of us below.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
But yeah, definitely still want to play it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
The team. Just finally the team. I watch something the
side sometimes drinking and frustrates me so much because I
look at the team. I go, that's a team that
can win the competition. What what What is the thing
that's holding his back?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
As it's probably just every day consistency.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I reckon day to day life with a lot of us,
probably more of the younger boys, and then you can
just you see on the field we're so inconsistent, and
I guess that probably it just comes back to your
week leading up to training or your off field stuff
and what you're doing, and then your mental prep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
But yeah, we're a team that you know, when you
have short turnarounds and you can't train as hard, we
struggle with those sessions need to be intense training. Yeah right,
we played really well after we've had an intense session,
but the obviously can't do that every week, so we
need to find that balance and be good. Yeah, if
it's a low session, you carry that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Through we can.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yeah, that's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
We talk about it a lot. We try and change it.
We try. We talk about that so.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Much easier said, when when your body is wrecked after
a short turn around, we can't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, so that's probably That's what I told this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Is so brilliant with the football. If you could work,
if your defense elevated to the point that you could
defend the errors which invariably will happen, is the top four.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Yeah, the one hundred percent, because obviously you've got to
throw the ball around a bit in your own your
own half these days, you can't just tuck it out,
I mean, unless you like obviously Penmer felt pretty well
there back five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
But yeah, you've got to be able to move the
ball and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
I guess get out a halfway to kick the ball
in a good position.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
So yeah, I mean we need to start to find
out there was a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Let's finish on the positive, right, what's your favorite song drinking?

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Favorite song at the moment. It's a really good question,
and Jack asks me this, and I just always come
back to Lips of an Angel by Hindu. Oh, a
bit of a depressing song, you know, about bad morals.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
But yeah, before he comes back to that, you know,
we'll finish. We'll sing it to finish all of us.
But let's give a little shout out as well. Players
golf club. You've got a golf brand, yes, golf. I
don't want to I don't want to not plug.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Yeah, golf brand.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
The merchant.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
We had our golf day yesterday, actually players the club champs.
The first ever individual Stableford, a fellow from Mount Druid.
I think his name was Leon. Matt Matt won. No,
he's not Matt one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
He won an e bike.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeahs Bros e bikes when they gave an ebark. So
he wanted to hit forty something points off thirty one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So Mount drew it. Maybe his sports capital world now
fighters great.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
You want to hold onto it. So I tell you
that you want to change that thing up because they're
hot demand. They get stolen a lot of e bikes. Really,
I remember Kaitlyn Pong I lost. He's who got stolen
out of his garage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Kurt Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I think toilet pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Lachlan Lewis, Lewis, finally you want this, you want it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It's coming in spear, that's not now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
If you want it, I think it looks good to you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Okay, all right, let's to round out. Ready live some angel,
all of us together three one two of one, two
three four.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Honeyway calling me, so.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I guess it's kind of talk right now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Well, my girls in the next room.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Some a head ship that this song after.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
All, waste of knowledge, facility.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Do you remember the Addie Daslar story? And you don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Mate? The it is full.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Thanks drinking, thank you, loving me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
You're good on your drink.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
You're a good friend and an even better player. Thank
you Players Golf Club.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Excellent mate.

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