November 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Cooper & Matty go from Britpop to backlines, unpacking Oasis mania and England’s Ashes soul-searching. They react to Daly Cherry-Evans’ Roosters switch. Plus, fresh updates on R360 and a few laughs along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, here we are, all the necessary adjustments to being made.
We're all in our various kits very much an oasis
for them to start. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oasis was when we recording this last night, bloody Oasis.
I was out there.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
How good was it? Oh? Mate?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Best? Not only the best concert I think I've ever
been to. I think it was the best thing I've
ever done. I got to do it two nights in
a row as well. I was happy. I'll tell you
what though, scratchy this morning, dustier than a bloody ceiling fan.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Isn't funny me? You go out like you can. You
can stay out, you can be at home with mates
and get on the drink and got a bet of
two o'clock. But even when you go out and about
like a night like that where you getting shitloads of
adrenaline and dopamine, then you go get home about twelve thirty,
just go. I woke the next day like yeah, after
Oasis and just went oh because we went Friday night
and then you went Friday Saturday. Mate. I've often thought
(00:52):
this coop and I've had I've said it to sometimes
to people, and people who just laughed at me. I
don't know if they like anymore. I think Liam Gallagher
is the greatest frontman of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm with you the stage present, because so many bands
like they've got the big runway through the middle, or
you've got Taylor Swift who emerges through the air and whatnot.
Sometimes he just stands up there, you know, rather rayin
Hale or shine. He's got a rain jacket on, he's
got a tambourine which he just puts around his neck
or on top of his head, and he doesn't even move,
(01:24):
just puts the hands behind the back, leans into the
mic and then he just strolls off. When he's not singing,
He's just good.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He presents himself with a real sense of menace, which
rock and roll is about.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey, rock and roll will never die. And what I
loved so many Pommy listeners of Backstage and the family
potty out there on the second night, mainly because on
that first night we were kind of in a bit
more of a less public section. We were in our
own little bit. But second night, when I was walking
through Holy Smokes, the amount of people that were coming
through all these Pommies, a lot of people giving it
(01:55):
to me because I was wearing a Man United Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Hen's why Jack's wearing his Oasis man Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
City certainly is. But make the amount upon me listeners
that were just going love Backstage, Love, Yeah, Love, Family Podcast, Hate,
Trish Love the Family Podcast, Fucking Marti's fucking sick?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is your dad?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let me tell you something. Your dad is one of
the biggest way because I've ever met my love.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How do you know we got you most morning?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
A lot of people. Actually you must, you must have
quite a presence in England because a lot of people
come out going mate love you love your old man.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Do you know like the band Oasis with the head
discarding that tailorly because I really enjoyed that rub on
the belly.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
One other question that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like our family we have, we have championed Oasis through
thick and thin. I will say that like I first
found Oasis, I'll hang on.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I discovered them with Alan McGee in a nightclub. No,
it was, I was over on. I was over in
the UK on a on a rugby league tour, playing
over there in the World Cup. Who knows they will
blend in but and I thought that definitely maybe album
and well, just after it came out, I remember listening
going because people tip me off because I'm a huge
(03:12):
Beatles fan, as most people are, and they said, no,
I've got to listen to this young band. It's just
a merged in England. They're going like the Manchester band.
They're going north and Mellion miles an hour and had
to listen and went, holy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Shit, So hang on, let me backcheck one second. So
what you're saying is at this stage, no one in
Australia knew about Oasis.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, no, people in Australia were just I don't think coop.
Oasis didn't really hit big in Australia until the second
album What's the Story in Morning Glory? Because when the
Wonderwall came out, that's the one that really launched them worldwide.
They've kind of a huge act in the UK, in the
parts of Europe on definitely maybe they're their their initial album,
(03:49):
but the big one was when definitely, when What's the
Story of Morning Glory came out, it sent them in
a completely different tracks.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
What I hear in my head is that you're calling
yourself an og cobber.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, yes, I am the original and I used to
play the music to people and they go I mentioned
Oasis and people gave fucking wankers.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Asked Phil Bailey about this, right, I'm going to do
something for you. So I went away and I made
a forty minute tape of all the Oasis songs all
blended together. Said listen to that, and he straightaway.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
How do you make back then making a tape? What
did that entail?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You'd have two stereo. You'd have one stereo with two
cassette sort of entries, and you put them both in
and you put one in record, another one in play
and one would record the other.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, and how long did that tell you?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
A full day? A full day holy shit, dedicated to
the cause. Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And do you know who's doing the Who did the
preact over in the UK was the Verve Bittersweet Symphony
Richard Ashcroft.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yes, we get wiganer, Wigan boy.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Didn't you say that when you playing at Wigan? He
was cleaning the pool that you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Used to when we used to we used to do
after a game sometimes we go to the Wigan bars
and the man who ran Wigan Bars was Richard rass
Cross's father, and saw him there once. He was just
sort of mopping the floor and carrying on. Pretty troubled
sort of guy, but he's come through the other side now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think most rock stars are quite troubled. Yeah, you
know I would say that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah yeah. But and what was a Ballpark Music? That
was the support band. I thought they were really, really good.
I was a disappointed in Melbourne. It was Emmel and
the Sniffers. I was I was desperate to see Emmal
and the Sniffers. But Ballpark Music were very very good
as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Reckon amal and the Sniffers come up with that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Name, I imagine, I don't know, yeah, I think they
had a dog rhymes with amial nitrate.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Best song boys, What do you reckon? Best song?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What's the story? Mine's Morning Glory?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Morning Glory was pretty damn good. The whole crowd was
singing what's the story Morning Glory? And everyone's wrong their
hands back and forth as they're saying it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
A couple of the boots, I Bring It On Down,
was very very good, and the other one I really liked.
It's off the master play an album.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Fade Away, well, slide Away as good as one like
obviously wonder Wall, But I feel like only the like
the real fake fans would say like wonder Wall, like
wonderful for me, I don't really like like I would
never put wonder Wall on in the car and sing
it like. It's more of a if you want to
get a room up a karaoke or something, you can
see wonder Wall. But like the one, the one of
(06:29):
the best of the mainstream was I Love Champagne Soup
and over.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That as well, incredible song.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Tell Jack Dad, why don't we say what d you said?
We nearly did on the way home from the Friday
night concert. Uh, there's a lyric in Live Forever and
Dad wanted to get all three of us get tattoos,
also lyrics. I'd still do it. If you wanted to
do it, I'd still get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was actually surprised you were actually you for those
None of us have tattoos.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, but over actually look, I got one on the
underside of the penis.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's good from the City of Cessnok. I hope you
have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It doesn't fit, goes up right to the back of you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah. Well, the lyric in Live Forever is we'll see
things they'll never see. And I thought, you know, we've
been through a fair bit of life experience. There's a
lot of families are and I thought we should get
that tatoo.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I get it still, I swear I even when I
was out there yessay when they sung it, I was like,
I'll still get it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
This reminds me of them when when I was living
with Perc briefly for a period there before he went
to Catalan and all the way.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, he got a we listened to while we're in
the COVID bubble.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
We used to always play when you were young by
the Killers, and basically he heard the lyrics the Devil's
water it ain't so sweet, I don't have to drink
right now, and it pretty well changed his perspective on
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And he got a tattooed in the off season.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My only problem is I wouldn't know where I'd get
a tattooed, and I'd be worried because I'm not not
in the quotation bubbles shape of my life, so I'd
be worried about like getting getting a lyric and then
shredding right up and then like it becomes all disproportioned.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm way about the opposite.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I feel like you might get it now ways small,
and then as you get large, you probably warped the.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Heads or lyrics, the lyrics. What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, but I think maybe on like the back of
the arm, like the tricep. I could get it there.
Apparently the trice it hurts. Yeah, they reckon the ridge
and the lower bag hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I've seen someone that got I got the camel on
their toe and they said that was pretty on the
top of their big toe.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They said that was pretty difficult.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Chase Blair Chase Blair on his so you sway for
Melbourne Storm used to wear the long sleeve Storm jersey
for those people who didn't know Chase Blair. On his
right toe he's got a toe. I mean he's got
a truck. So he's got toe truck like he's a
truck tattooed on and then left big toe is a
camel for camel tooe. He thought it was so funny
(08:59):
every day in.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The locker rooms, all through that pain for that weak joke.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It was what a great conversation start He's missing?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Is there anything else?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I finished with told that he's possibly he's missing that
he could get put on soon.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We'll love to think about that. In the meantime, you
mentioned the impact Oasis have had on music is pretty significant.
I mean we always think about them. We talk about
the bands that had an effect on Oasis. We talk about,
of course the Beatles, we talk about Stone Roses to
a Rory Gallaher and but the effect they've had another bands,
(09:36):
and the Killers are the best example of Brendan Flowers,
whose lead singer are The Killers. He was he was
a concierge or a park or a park boy or
you know, valet valet at Caesars Palace and he was
there or not and his mum worked at Caesars Palace. Anyway,
the guy who was working with his mummy said, a
(09:56):
Brandon's a bit of a music fan. Made this a
band from the UK that have come. It must have
been enough to definitely maybe who are playing at a
place tonight and get him tickets. She went, oh, okay,
no worries, got him two tickets and he went and
watched Oasis in Caesar's Palace instead to change his life.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No way, they played at Caesar's Palace, seesze that would
have been good. Yeah, oh, I still want to I'll
tell you before we move on to some of the
Yash's talk and the rugby llyge. I do want to
say my head hit the pillow last night and I
was all but decided that I was going to move
to London and still woke up with thoughts of it.
Maybe you know, twenty twenty six, even if it's for
(10:34):
just a short period of time. I would love because
the UK culture. I just love it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I love getting around in me Manchester, United Jersey. I
felt like, you know, I felt like a young kid
kicking the soccer ball in the backyard. Yeah, I'm very excited.
I don't know where i'd live over there. London the
most expensive city on the world to live.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Apparently i'd move either Liverpool or Manchester. I love I
love the North of England. Yeah, I just love it, man.
I love the culture, I love the people, I love
the music, I love everything about it. I pined for
the North of England.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
While we're running.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
By the way, there's also missile toe, big toe or
tic tac on top of your toe that might work.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are we still on that?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Dad? Can I ask? Should I turn him down?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
No? Happy. No, it's good two handed show, it's good.
Let him join in. Okay, Ashes we win, Ossie's win
three nil over England. A lot of people who have
been asking me to give a bit of fooedback. Why
aren't they called Great Britain like in the old days
with the Ashes tour. Well, the reason is that they
have to be called England because they revert to the
(11:41):
name Great Britain. They don't get funding from the English government. Yeah,
why why.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is it called the Ashes? Is there a reason for that?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well? Do you know the original reason for the Ashes
for cricket, don't you? Okay, So what it was? I
think it must have been not the first of a series.
What they did They burn at the Bales, Yeah, in
the first ever series and they put him into an
urn and that's what they're playing for the Ashes. Okay, right,
so we've just taken it off there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love because you know in the cricket the Ashes
trophy it's so small.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And you remember there was I think it was Tony
Jones they call Chompers and he's on the TV and
he was going, oh, he's going look at him over there,
the crick he's holding up the ashes and it's so
funny how something so small can be so impressive, and
his female co host goes, well, you know about that, Tony.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You remember that?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And then there was that there was another incident he
had with the same co host when he goes, they're
wrapping up like a news story and he goes, oh,
tell you what, this weekend forty degrees, you should come
around for a barbie, and she goes, no thanks, and
he goes, okay, some great He's so awkward. So back
in the day they used to have like like on
(12:51):
the news and like breakfast sort of TV. They just
have like great, like funny moments that would happen, like
I remember that guy who was just like they came
bounding over.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dog Man.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then there was one There was one of the
reporters who was at a lake one day and a
duck like thought he was threatening his babies, and it
just attacked him live on the end. The rooster, the
rooster that they're in like there might have been for
the Easter show and they're in the farmer section and
the rooster just started attacking him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, well, I won't remember the guy over. There was
a burglary up in Queensland and they interviewed the bloke
and he goes yeah, and I came out right and
the yeah, good on your mate. You want to be
a hero, do you?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
They're so good bring that back.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But three nil the Aussies won. Yeah, it was the series.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
On a whole.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It really hurts me to say this because as a great,
fantastic three nil it's done. It's done a lot of
good things for the game over there, which is really important.
It could have been been a series the English had
just showed the divide between us, between US and the
and the English side, and and we never read our
very very best. I wanted it to be a really tight,
(14:02):
hard fought series. It wouldn't even worried me. It don't
sound un Australian if they didn't won, oh you know
what I mean, because you have the booster to give
the game. But my second one was hoping that, like
the eighty two and eighty six ashes, that we went
over there and our players showcased actually how good that
side potentially you know we're going to be and you
(14:23):
know people that look and just go wow, like, I mean,
how good is that? But we never quite got going.
I think part of it to coop Jack is the
reason in the old Kangaroo Tours, you go over, you
play about five or six club games before you play
the first test, then five or six cloud game, so
you've got you've got a lot of game time together
and a lot of time to form combinations where the
(14:44):
side really didn't getting up they didn't get a lot
of time to gel.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think it, like you said, reflection on the England
team complay to Australia, but I think it's it's such
an indication of just where the soup like that competition
is at because that a lot of those ninety percent
of that team apart from Farnworth, Dom Young and Brimo
were people from the Super League and you could just see,
particularly with the attack, like the quality in the attack
(15:08):
and the footy IQ was so different because England, especially
Game two, they did a good job of like making
it ugly like it was always going to be like
if they could make it because they're really physical and
they could disrupt force a lot of error. They got
a lot of areas out of Tino in that game too,
because they're physical, they're strong and they can kind of
bring you down to their level and make it an ugly,
scrappy game. But with the footye, I think in three
(15:30):
games they scored only like two or three tries. They
just could not with the football, the quality of the attack,
the attention to detail and like the X factor. They
just didn't have what your likes of months to Harry,
Cleary and Walsh had.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
A couple of the players that left out of the
squad Amaze meet. Now. I'm not sure whether it was
an injury, particularly with Maddie Nicholson. I'm not sure about that,
but two of the first forwards I would have picked
a fold Sean Wayne would have been Maddie Nicholson and
a young Blake who's a wig and young backrower at
junior in Noceumber. He is a very very special player.
On the app he maybe went off a little bit
(16:05):
as far as his form, but when we're in Vegas,
I tipped to people, I said, mate, you watched this kid.
It's just a powerhouse. And I was amazed that neither
of those players were picked. As I said before, I
don't know whether there was a slight injury, but Nicholson,
up until when he got injured a magic round mate.
He was the best background the competition just outstanding player
Matt in Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I couldn't believe They've got so many good talented players
in England right who probably aren't getting noticed because the
competition does have as many eyes on it and it's
not as quality competition. But you see when some of
those players come to the NROL, they make a real
impact and they at like even when Johnny Bateman came over,
like the imput that they can make to an NRL team.
It's just about getting that same culture environment and competition,
(16:49):
particularly in the coaching ranks as well, Like the coaching
in Australia are so good, like it is so good
at the NRL level that if they can sort of
replicate a lot of that cultural stuff and take it
over to the Super League and improve that competition, I
think we'll see the Ashes become quality like it was
back in sort of eighties nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
In the nineties. Will keep just a little thing on
that which you may find interesting you and Jacob maybe not.
I find things interesting that surprise, surprise, no one does.
But if you look at the history of the English game, right,
and I think as told from Kangaroo Tours nineteen to
seventy eight we went over the Kangaroo Tour and it
was a really tough hard foot series. When we went
(17:30):
back over in eighty two, it blew that we blew
them out of the water. Now, the question is why
what happened? Now that four years in between Australian sport
we austra and ragularly went through a bit of a
revolution as far as diet, diet, nutrition, but also training,
skill work, fitness, all those things. But the other one
that happened in between that time, crucially with state of
(17:52):
origin football emerged and that took our rugby league, your
elop players to a completely level, another level or two up.
And so when we went over there these players and
made mind you we had a fair side. There was
a place like Steve Rodgers you wouldn't have seen played
who was made just a genius footballer. Malmoning Wally Lewis
(18:13):
in eighty two could not have made this starting lineup.
It was Stirling and Kenny. But that team when they
went over there, and this is what I'm talking about.
My wish was that side that went away could have
been it's on paper one of the greatest Australian touring sides. Now,
if they'd have really got going. On one hand, you're
looking going, oh mate, this is bad for England, We're
(18:35):
beaten them by forty points. But on the other hand,
I would have loved for the English public to sit
there and watch on the BBC and just gone, my god,
how good are these blokes? That would have been That's
a different kind of advertisement for the game, but a
great one.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The point you make there, I think a big part
of why, especially in these big representatives games you see
like Monster Cleary, Harry Reese Walsh, they go to the
next level. It'd be interesting to see the effect like
State of Origins had with these players they practiced. They
get three games a year on this huge stage against
the best players in that comp and they get to
practice at an intensity of a game that is unlike
(19:15):
you can get a replicate a Club Land yep. If
the Super League was able to replicate a State of
Origin s type thing like North England verse South England
where all the best players in that comp play against
each other for a three games series during the year,
I think you'd see a lot of improvement in those players,
like in the individual players that go there, because you're
being exposed to a really high level of football, and
(19:36):
I think you'd see a rapid improvement in those players.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They've tried before. They try to think called the War
of the Roses, which back historically, the War of the
Roses was a war between Lancashire and Yorkshire. They tried
that over there. They tried a state of origin concept
with all the Lancashire players now Lancashire, or all the players
from Wigan and Saint Helen's and Warrington and so on,
(20:01):
and all the Yorkshire teams were like teams like Leeds
and Castleford and so on, and so that it just
never caught on. I never caught the imagination of the public,
and a lot of the public over there were going,
why are our best Why are they our best players
playing against each other?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
If that makes sense. It never the concept never took
off that they should. But the more we go over
and the more they come out here, the better it
is for their game. But I thought individually some of
the performances Munster was two things about Monster. I thought
his performances are outstanding. Crucially for Munster, he's adjusting his
game as he gets older. He's had the hip and
(20:42):
growing problems. He doesn't have that, saying that he's lost
a meter a speed which happens when you get past
thirty anyone, and weighed on but he's he'll love that.
But he's adjusted his game. Mate, He's playing a lot
smarter game these days. He's kicking game was outstanding. And
the other thing I loved to about Munster. I was
watching nine News the other night and there was a
(21:03):
mother there and it breaks heart, a young mother with
her beautiful little son who was sitting in a whel
chair who had brain cancer. And Munster went straight over
and like you know, shook the kid, give the kid
a cuddle and his mum. Then Keon Kalama Tonguey went
over as well. Then all the team come over. I
just thought, there are some things that are more important
than football, and so well, Dounder the boys over there,
(21:26):
because my understanding they've been doing. They did things like
that all the way through the tour. Were very well received.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Unsurprisingly, Yeah, they looked like they enjoyed themselves over there
as well. Looks like they were having a good time.
But well, you said, Munster, you know what I think
was good for why Monster excelled in that environment as well,
because those the English team don't really wrestle that much.
Like they hit very hard. They're physical, but they don't
slow the play the ball down like most Australian teams
do and what Monsters used to. So you saw, like
(21:53):
you said you saw while she saw Monster, you saw
Harry playing out of his skin because they were getting
a lot of quick play the balls, like the attack
was so much quicker than they used to, which brings
Monster and those lads in it ree Whilsh was unbelievable
that try that he scored off the scrum in game three.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
We just caught it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Really wide, fifteen meters wide pass from Harry off the
scrum and then just goes left foot, left foot goes
over untaxed.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, the man who you watch, if you get back
and watch that right, what he does, he's so clever Ruse.
He'll sit opposite the bloke who's marked him like he's
target defender. He'll sit opposite him, and that defender whose
opposite is acutely aware of Reese's speed. And so when
the ball gets fired from the scrum from Nathan, you
watch he fades, he fades, and when up like defensively.
(22:36):
Let people know you're supposed to go up dead straight,
bolt straight, and if he fades, he runs into another defender.
But Reese is so lightning quick that that defender loses
their nerve and actually starts chasing early, so that fade,
you watch him, he just goes check, check, and just
goes straight through.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They all over chase. They all have to come off
sideways because he's just too quick for him.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Other than what an ambassador to mate, oh mate, But
like the way he gave himself to the public. Yeah,
you know it's good on him and a.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Bloody, handsome young boy at that other big news in
rugby leagues chez ar DC.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And just one moment. You can't mention him because people
give it to you to event all the time. But
well do Harry. I think it's in between Harry Grant
and Monster for the Golden Boot Now I think Harry
is a dog.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just quickly before we actually do change topic. While we're
in England at the moment, we haven't spoken too much
about the Ashes and about what's going on between the
NROL and the Super League.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's going to get your.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Opinion cover what are your thoughts on the London Broncos,
the consortium that went over there getting bumped back. Do
you think it has something to do with the NRL
and the Super League maybe negotiating to get the deal done.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, it's interesting, Jack, because it seems as though that
franchise is going to be a no brainer. That's a
strange one, you know, Jack, I'll tear what it might
be because there's a real split over there in the
rugby league. Half of the clubs are really cool for
the NRL to take over the other half ago and no, no, no,
we don't need the We don't need the Aussies, we
don't need the NRL. Let's just for Joe Path. I
(24:01):
wonder Jack, given the fact that London appeared to be
going to be almost like a bit of an Aussie club,
if that makes sense, whether that was one of the reasons.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I was suspecting. Do you think if they're negotiating it
becomes a bit of murky If there's an Australian money
going towards a English side and then the Neral's looking
to buy the franchise as a part of a bigger deal,
does it become sort of like maybe the nroll in
that negotiation might be a bit of a bargaining chip
for for the English side.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, Jack, I don't know. It's a really precarious situation
at the moment. Shane Richardson, he's very good operator, Richo,
and he spent a lot of time in England with
Gates hid Thunder excuse me emotional and then and then
Hull Richo's gone, and Richo pushed forward over there from
the people he's got associates over there to say, guys,
(24:52):
shortened the competition, like I'm sorry, narrow, eliminate a few
of the teams, knock it downwards to an eight or
ten teen competition. Let the NRLL take over and things
will start to change. They've gone the other way. They've
expanded now, in my opinion, expansion. I think it was.
I think it's crazy for them at the moment because
(25:12):
they're going to look, they're struggling for depth already. Then
they've got another three or four sides that have come in,
and on top of that, we've got two sides coming.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
In and I think even the like they're even struggling
with depth with the sides that they've got, and they've
got we've got a lot of talent and crop to
pick from where a super leg is struggling with depth
and talent right now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And coops and you just know that P and G
and Perth are going to have there's a fair chance
Perth is going to have quite a number of English players.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, definitely, yes, all right, DC to the rooster's finally
been announced. Obviously it was a deal that was probably
done verbally about six months ago, but it's only just
been announced. Thoughts on it, mate, I'm a big fan
of it. I think it's a good decision. I think
it definitely makes them a premiership threat short term. M
(25:59):
what happens we Hugo Savala, I don't know. I don't
know where he's going to go. If he wants to
sit behind him for a year or two, you could
probably get a start somewhere else, though he.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Could somewhere else, but could you know, not so much
to sit behind him, It would be sit alongside him.
Like you know that three men walk three minutes? Yeah three?
You know, as we know it takes you need more
than just two sort of playmakers in that top seventeen.
So Hugo or one of them could push to assume
that fourteen roll. Hugo is going to learn and Sam
(26:30):
seim walking and learn a lot off DC, that's for sure.
And Hugo, the temptation for Hugo is to go, you know,
go mate, look I've proven myself, then you've got to
sign on this bloke. My advice to Hugo would be
just be patient. Mate, might bidy in new minutes and
all that, you know, but what it's going to do
in the long term is going to make you a
better footballer.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm excited to see how the dynameterter in him and
Sammy Walker works because Samuel Hawker's obviously played half back.
He's on the right side for his kicking and that's
his preferred side, but he'll probably have to move over
to the left to allow Cherry on his preferred right side.
I'm interested to see how that dynamic was. I think
it's kind of good because Sam's not like Sam Walker
probably works better off the cuff as just a pure
(27:12):
reactor and just you know, early kicks using his footwork
when he sees tied defenders, whereas Cherry can probably assume
more of that steering them around the park role.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But as you've said before, but Cherry's best attribute is
his spot. When you see that reactive role as well,
so you know it's going to be a real good
I'd say Trent Robinson, He's sitting out there going how
do I solve this equation? So I like to play
a sort of structured style of attack. But now my
two principal playmakers and organizers are brilliant ad lib reactive,
(27:43):
reactive players. So how are we going to work this?
You know, what are we going to do? It will
be intriguing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'd like to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think the change, I think the change in how
they may go about their football. I think it would
be really good for the Roosters.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and they've got James Tedesco, who's probably one of
the best ad lib footy players ever, quick play, that
just gets it and does his own things. So I'm
keen to see how those three work together. Cherry's played
a lot of footy with Teddy. This is actually I
caught up with Cherry during the week. Holy shit, he's
going to have the earliest preseason date that he's ever had.
I think he was about late November's. I think he's
(28:16):
kicking off. But he's a bloke that hasn't really, He's
done so many NRLD preseasons at mainly he hasn't been
back in November, probably since he was nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I reckon and exciting for him. Mate, He's going to
walk into a brand new schoolyard he's established at Manly.
He walks in there. Everyone knows what Cherry's about. But
now he walks in, it doesn't matter. You know, people
will go, oh, you know, he's got nothing to prove.
Any person who walks into a new club, whether it's
Diego Maradona, Andrew John's, Dally Tree Evans, they all feel
(28:47):
they've got something to prove to their teammates. And that's
exciting for him.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, he was a little bit like I don't know
what to expect. He was like the unknown of this
new Like I've never been to another club before. Like
so this new program, new gym pro like all these
different running techniques, Like there's so much, there's a whole
playbook he's got to learn as a halfback.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be your very best coop no matter
what it is. You need nerves, you need that apprehension,
that feeling, you got that little bit of fear and
that's what's going to give him this change. Walking into
that first daid of training, his guts will be rumbling.
It'd be like he's rookie again walking back into Manley and.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Little Ryan poopench Mounts and Ryan Papenhausen. Little Pappy has
immediately left the storm. There's the rumors of Rugby three
sixty after the next year when they start. I think
they start November twenty twenty six was when that competition starts,
So there's a lot of time in between. But he's
taken time off to just think about what he's going
to do. I mean me personally, no one perhaps knowing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What he's like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It actually wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't go to
Rugby three sixty, he doesn't play any of it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Just wouldn't spruce.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
If he just goes pulls a play, would not surprise
me at all.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He seems to me be a kid that as far
as on the peaking order of life rugby league s
it's about four or five.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's got so much going on. He's smart, like he
knows his bloody like business and stock markets really well.
So I think in sex too. Yeah, back in the
day they'll stick in sex breeding. But I think he's Yeah,
I think he's keen to have success post football in
whatever he wants to do as well. So it wouldn't
shock me if that. I mean, he's quite young still
(30:24):
and he's still got a lot to offer. Would be
good to see him, potentially if he wants to go
to Rubby three sixty, be good to still see the
flying mallets still run around.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
What are the boys saying that? Do they think he's
going to three sixty?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They don't know. They actually don't know. No one's really
Everyone's kind of like like, I don't know what he's
gonna do, But everyone sort of said the same thing,
like knowing peraps, you actually don't know what he's going
to do. Like usually you can make a guess and
it's quite easy, you know, like with chairs it was
quite easy to know knowing chairs, know he's still had
something to give that he was going to play on,
like he wasn't going to give it up, but with
perhaps quite unpredictable. Like I sit there and I was
(30:57):
thinking about it, and I go, I I wouldn't not
show me if he just goes. You know, I've had
I've had fun playing foot I've went a Clive Church,
I want a premiership. I've played over one hundred games.
Now I'm keen to do something else.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
If it was to say to you Cooper that you'll
never ever talk to Ryan Pappenhausen again, like basically in
your life, he'll just disappear out of you, would that
surprise you, Uh? Not really.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'd hope he doesn't just disappear because I like Paps. Yeah,
But he he is quite like an introvert and does
his own thing off the field. Like there was some
I remember there was a year there, but he'd had
a couple of head knocks at this stage. But like
we didn't even see perhaps for like four months, and
he was just kind of went and did his own thing,
did a lot of reading, had to have a lot
of blueberries for his brain because they're really good, Like
(31:38):
he was doing concussion stuff. So he just kind of
removed himself from like everyone and just did his own thing.
He's very He's not the kind of guy that would
just text you on the day off and be like
let's go do this, Let's go to this. Where most
of the boys are like that. He's quite a different
mold of rugby league player. But there's so many different
personalities and types and of rugby league club that's what
makes it up. But yeah, he is quite different in
(32:00):
that sense.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And on that note, just but my memory about like
head knocks put in a big cheered out to elikto.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah that was that was.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Terrifying, man, Yeah, that was sickening what happened. Just man.
That was when when I was sitting he was sitting
on the bench and I looked and I said, the
true true you could to kind of look to see
this when you're sitting there and you see Oh man,
it was. It was frightening.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I look, I don't know the ins and outs of
the whole doctor protocol or that. I don't want to
question went on that. But when I saw that, I
didn't actually watch the game that tongue in game, but
when I saw Lehigh knock him head class there and
knock him out in the warm up, I thought geez
Ellies was out of the game before the game started.
And then when I heard what had happened after, I
(32:41):
was shocked that he played the game. Seeing the footage
that I saw, I was so shocked and I was
like he in my opinion, like I've seen a lot
of headaches. I'm no doctor, though I don't know what
test they did, but when I saw it, he should
not have gone out there, just from my opinion. But
I'm no, I'm no doctor. You're not a doctor, no, no, no,
although I am a doctor of rugby league to go
(33:02):
his game off.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
All bloody look. Yeah, I'm looking to second guess the
doctors and all the things that went on. We just
wish him all the very best because maybe it was
it was that was incredibly scary, And I think about
his parents sitting there game like watching. I imagine I
don't know that he actually played. The worries he feeling
may have been there, but I hope they were, because
to watch from afar, that must have been your worst nightmare.
(33:25):
The other one is paying housekeeps talk about isn't hasn't
like he was. He was mooded before that. They were
looking at him, but suddenly out of the blue, they're
saying they're offering him three million dollars a year, three six. Yeah,
and that the way it's been spoken about, a fat
com pleae. He's going to go sheeus. I hope not.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I hope not, because I feel like he's still got
so much a given regularly. I know he's, but Jesus
has done a lot for a bloke. He's the same
age as me, he's twenty six, and Pain has now
done everything in the game origin now on a Grand
final like he's he has got much left to prove,
like and seeing what he's I could definitely see him
(34:06):
going and playing in that rugby three like R three
sixty over? And I think, are they going to be
based out of Dubai coops?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Well, now you get to pick your address. Oh so
you still think? I just I don't know. I'm looking
at it, like obviously there's a lot going on behind,
Like they don't tell the public everything, but they're going
to the franchises, franchises in Dubai Toky, London, London, Paris, Miami.
(34:33):
I was just going right, and they're saying they've got
a TV deal with YouTube. You know what I heard?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You know what I heard. I don't know what I
heard the other day, right, so this is now, Look, listeners,
all of our little back fences listening all right. I
just wanted to be knowing I am not like what
I say. I know a lot of you listen to
what I say, and you two did his gospel. But
I am not God, but this is what I inside herd.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So this is a revelation you've just said before not
a doctor. No, No, that blew me away straight away
because you put me in those antibiotics just before. And
secondly depositories and you tewish are the ones that go
in your ass? Yeah, that's what's the pository and you
(35:20):
put it on the shelf. That's what they say.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's what Shanda used to say. You poke it in
like you're at the post office and you know, you
put it in the thing go like that like you
know how the old post So you feel the suction
because we used to do it the silver bullet and
we would put it in and then Shandos said, you
just curl your index finger and just pop it on
the shelf to the left and then you'll feel the
and they just take it off. Wow, straight into the gart.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I'll give that a gar. What was the point Cooper's
not a doctor and the other one was said, he's
not God. What was I about to say?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh yeah, sorry, someone tipped me off saying that R
three sixty. They actually haven't got the funding for it yet, right,
So what they're doing is they're looking to sign all
these big names and then once they've got the big names,
they're hoping to get the funding and then it will
go ahead if they can get the funding. So what
could potentially happen is like, this is just what I'm
hearing allegedly. Let me throw that in there. But if
(36:12):
they have all these sign all these big name players,
the competition could still fall through in six months because
they don't get the proper funding needed to do the
whole competition. So I don't know how true that is.
That's just what an insider told me the other day
on the street, but he was homeless, so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Again too, But like they'd have to negotiate the TV
deal and that would have to be like that would
dictate most of the money.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Now think so, But you're.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Saying that they might be right. They might be reversing
reverse engineering it. Let's get the players, let's get the
star power. Then we'll take it to the broadcasting, to
the sponsors after that. But that's a big risk.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, that's a big risk.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And the other thing about it, Coopses and Jack is
that sport is support is at his tribal and it's
purest form. It is tribal. And I'm looking and going, okay,
so this team in Miami, there's a team and take
you there's a team in Dubai.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Like I just go as it too international, it's too broad.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Even when Liverpool were winning Champions League, the thing that
really stuck in their craws was the fact that they
hadn't won a Premier League title or a league title
for such a long time. And even though they won
Champions leagues like you know, AC Milan and the top
clubs for European glory, for them it was secondary because
they hadn't you know, it was a bittersweet because they
(37:35):
hadn't won the league. That's an example how the purest
form of sport is tribal.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Their competitiveness like New Soos, Queensland are states that really
kind of don't like it. Tell that even outside of
State of Orange.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Let's look at some of the big cities around the world. Right,
so you've got let's go Glasgow Celtic versus Glasgow Rangers,
Fenerba versus Galatas. Right in this dambul all these ac
Milan into Milan Manchester night of Manchester City, Munich versus
Player Munich versus Bruce Adortment a little bit further away.
(38:11):
But you know, in sport and and in and if
you like, and the best one in rugby league, the
biggest derby and rugby league is South Sidney rabbit Os
versus Sidney Easterns Roosters, or in England Whole kr versus
Hull Orson Helen's versus Wigan. They just sit alongside each other.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's the like, that's the one like you can you
make die hard fans by like through just people because
unless they get Taylor Swift, I can't see that happening too.
Swift as playing well, she's a bit of a cult herself.
Like if I'd say they signed Taylor Swift, I reckon
there's a fair chance they'd have quite the following. Whatever
team she signs for, what position would she play that?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Sorry there, Jack, Jack's really really when he Jack chimes
in today, really very random, very very random.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I like it. Random. Jack's a good Jack.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, you know, we're gett into the back end of
the year, so happy, happy to allow that.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I'm about to go to Thailand. So I'm hitting the yeah, yeah,
I'm hitting the backstraps. I'm looking for Uncle Ricos thinking
about that.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, that our man in white Latus letting it have
been railed. Who are going over there? Still the greatest movie?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Going there on your own?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
No, I'm taking gem there. You're missing out on Thailand
just for eight days and then we'll be back and
back following in to for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
As I said before, Jack, go to Bangkok, go to
the Chinatown of Bangkok. It is insane. You know, it's
the greatest.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Experiencecause I'm going to be home home stallone because you
guys are all going to be out and there might
be a little bit of a shindig being thrown. I'm jealous,
you know.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Anyway, that's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Sorry, did I have to do? We have anything else?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
All I want to say is this. In recording this,
we're about to go upstairs. We're going to watch the
Pacific Champion. Oh yeah, okay, So if we're not, we're not.
Haven't been speaking about that directly because we haven't seen
it yet for reasons which we will not disclose. Yeah,
we had to do the podcast early, but what.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Reason was that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, you said, I don't know what the reason is.
Can you go ahead and tell us?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Do you have a reason?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Rhymes pokys?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
What rhymes with that?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Stoky? I don't know, No, no, no, I've just got
some stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know what's good. We've got cheese. Brandon Smith, he's upstairs.
He's playing like that's why we duck down here. So
sheal nice to get away from him for a bit
because he's got that much energy at the moment, talking
me years off. But he's up there playing monopoly with Tree.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
He looks good brand.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
He's up there playing monopoly with Trish Trush, Oh my god.
And I can think of nothing worse than playing ball
games for you, Tresh.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh mate, borders in not be a B A B
going b O A R D. It's b O R
E D. You got bored?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, you're off today?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
What a way to finish your off today?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Just I'm still buzzing for Oasis.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You're still buzzing climax early inside.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You're the underclass. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
One
Well, here we are, all the necessary adjustments to being made.
We're all in our various kits very much an oasis
for them to start. Well.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oasis was when we recording this last night, bloody Oasis.
I was out there.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
How good was it? Oh? Mate?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Best? Not only the best concert I think I've ever
been to. I think it was the best thing I've
ever done. I got to do it two nights in
a row as well. I was happy. I'll tell you
what though, scratchy this morning, dustier than a bloody ceiling fan.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Isn't funny me? You go out like you can. You
can stay out, you can be at home with mates
and get on the drink and got a bet of
two o'clock. But even when you go out and about
like a night like that where you getting shitloads of
adrenaline and dopamine, then you go get home about twelve thirty,
just go. I woke the next day like yeah, after
Oasis and just went oh because we went Friday night
and then you went Friday Saturday. Mate. I've often thought
(00:52):
this coop and I've had I've said it to sometimes
to people, and people who just laughed at me. I
don't know if they like anymore. I think Liam Gallagher
is the greatest frontman of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm with you the stage present, because so many bands
like they've got the big runway through the middle, or
you've got Taylor Swift who emerges through the air and whatnot.
Sometimes he just stands up there, you know, rather rayin
Hale or shine. He's got a rain jacket on, he's
got a tambourine which he just puts around his neck
or on top of his head, and he doesn't even move,
(01:24):
just puts the hands behind the back, leans into the
mic and then he just strolls off. When he's not singing,
He's just good.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He presents himself with a real sense of menace, which
rock and roll is about.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey, rock and roll will never die. And what I
loved so many Pommy listeners of Backstage and the family
potty out there on the second night, mainly because on
that first night we were kind of in a bit
more of a less public section. We were in our
own little bit. But second night, when I was walking
through Holy Smokes, the amount of people that were coming
through all these Pommies, a lot of people giving it
(01:55):
to me because I was wearing a Man United Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Hen's why Jack's wearing his Oasis man Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
City certainly is. But make the amount upon me listeners
that were just going love Backstage, Love, Yeah, Love, Family Podcast, Hate,
Trish Love the Family Podcast, Fucking Marti's fucking sick?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is your dad?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let me tell you something. Your dad is one of
the biggest way because I've ever met my love.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How do you know we got you most morning?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
A lot of people. Actually you must, you must have
quite a presence in England because a lot of people
come out going mate love you love your old man.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Do you know like the band Oasis with the head
discarding that tailorly because I really enjoyed that rub on
the belly.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
One other question that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like our family we have, we have championed Oasis through
thick and thin. I will say that like I first
found Oasis, I'll hang on.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I discovered them with Alan McGee in a nightclub. No,
it was, I was over on. I was over in
the UK on a on a rugby league tour, playing
over there in the World Cup. Who knows they will
blend in but and I thought that definitely maybe album
and well, just after it came out, I remember listening
going because people tip me off because I'm a huge
(03:12):
Beatles fan, as most people are, and they said, no,
I've got to listen to this young band. It's just
a merged in England. They're going like the Manchester band.
They're going north and Mellion miles an hour and had
to listen and went, holy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Shit, So hang on, let me backcheck one second. So
what you're saying is at this stage, no one in
Australia knew about Oasis.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, no, people in Australia were just I don't think coop.
Oasis didn't really hit big in Australia until the second
album What's the Story in Morning Glory? Because when the
Wonderwall came out, that's the one that really launched them worldwide.
They've kind of a huge act in the UK, in the
parts of Europe on definitely maybe they're their their initial album,
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but the big one was when definitely, when What's the
Story of Morning Glory came out, it sent them in
a completely different tracks.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
What I hear in my head is that you're calling
yourself an og cobber.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, yes, I am the original and I used to
play the music to people and they go I mentioned
Oasis and people gave fucking wankers.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Asked Phil Bailey about this, right, I'm going to do
something for you. So I went away and I made
a forty minute tape of all the Oasis songs all
blended together. Said listen to that, and he straightaway.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
How do you make back then making a tape? What
did that entail?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You'd have two stereo. You'd have one stereo with two
cassette sort of entries, and you put them both in
and you put one in record, another one in play
and one would record the other.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, and how long did that tell you?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
A full day? A full day holy shit, dedicated to
the cause. Wow?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And do you know who's doing the Who did the
preact over in the UK was the Verve Bittersweet Symphony
Richard Ashcroft.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yes, we get wiganer, Wigan boy.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Didn't you say that when you playing at Wigan? He
was cleaning the pool that you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Used to when we used to we used to do
after a game sometimes we go to the Wigan bars
and the man who ran Wigan Bars was Richard rass
Cross's father, and saw him there once. He was just
sort of mopping the floor and carrying on. Pretty troubled
sort of guy, but he's come through the other side now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think most rock stars are quite troubled. Yeah, you
know I would say that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah yeah. But and what was a Ballpark Music? That
was the support band. I thought they were really, really good.
I was a disappointed in Melbourne. It was Emmel and
the Sniffers. I was I was desperate to see Emmal
and the Sniffers. But Ballpark Music were very very good
as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Reckon amal and the Sniffers come up with that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Name, I imagine, I don't know, yeah, I think they
had a dog rhymes with amial nitrate.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Best song boys, What do you reckon? Best song?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What's the story? Mine's Morning Glory?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Morning Glory was pretty damn good. The whole crowd was
singing what's the story Morning Glory? And everyone's wrong their
hands back and forth as they're saying it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
A couple of the boots, I Bring It On Down,
was very very good, and the other one I really liked.
It's off the master play an album.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Fade Away, well, slide Away as good as one like
obviously wonder Wall, But I feel like only the like
the real fake fans would say like wonder Wall, like
wonderful for me, I don't really like like I would
never put wonder Wall on in the car and sing
it like. It's more of a if you want to
get a room up a karaoke or something, you can
see wonder Wall. But like the one, the one of
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the best of the mainstream was I Love Champagne Soup
and over.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That as well, incredible song.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Tell Jack Dad, why don't we say what d you said?
We nearly did on the way home from the Friday
night concert. Uh, there's a lyric in Live Forever and
Dad wanted to get all three of us get tattoos,
also lyrics. I'd still do it. If you wanted to
do it, I'd still get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was actually surprised you were actually you for those
None of us have tattoos.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, but over actually look, I got one on the
underside of the penis.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's good from the City of Cessnok. I hope you
have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It doesn't fit, goes up right to the back of you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah. Well, the lyric in Live Forever is we'll see
things they'll never see. And I thought, you know, we've
been through a fair bit of life experience. There's a
lot of families are and I thought we should get
that tatoo.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I get it still, I swear I even when I
was out there yessay when they sung it, I was like,
I'll still get it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
This reminds me of them when when I was living
with Perc briefly for a period there before he went
to Catalan and all the way.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, he got a we listened to while we're in
the COVID bubble.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
We used to always play when you were young by
the Killers, and basically he heard the lyrics the Devil's
water it ain't so sweet, I don't have to drink
right now, and it pretty well changed his perspective on
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And he got a tattooed in the off season.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
My only problem is I wouldn't know where I'd get
a tattooed, and I'd be worried because I'm not not
in the quotation bubbles shape of my life, so I'd
be worried about like getting getting a lyric and then
shredding right up and then like it becomes all disproportioned.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm way about the opposite.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I feel like you might get it now ways small,
and then as you get large, you probably warped the.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Heads or lyrics, the lyrics. What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, but I think maybe on like the back of
the arm, like the tricep. I could get it there.
Apparently the trice it hurts. Yeah, they reckon the ridge
and the lower bag hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I've seen someone that got I got the camel on
their toe and they said that was pretty on the
top of their big toe.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They said that was pretty difficult.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Chase Blair Chase Blair on his so you sway for
Melbourne Storm used to wear the long sleeve Storm jersey
for those people who didn't know Chase Blair. On his
right toe he's got a toe. I mean he's got
a truck. So he's got toe truck like he's a
truck tattooed on and then left big toe is a
camel for camel tooe. He thought it was so funny
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every day in.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The locker rooms, all through that pain for that weak joke.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It was what a great conversation start He's missing?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Is there anything else?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I finished with told that he's possibly he's missing that
he could get put on soon.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We'll love to think about that. In the meantime, you
mentioned the impact Oasis have had on music is pretty significant.
I mean we always think about them. We talk about
the bands that had an effect on Oasis. We talk about,
of course the Beatles, we talk about Stone Roses to
a Rory Gallaher and but the effect they've had another bands,
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and the Killers are the best example of Brendan Flowers,
whose lead singer are The Killers. He was he was
a concierge or a park or a park boy or
you know, valet valet at Caesars Palace and he was
there or not and his mum worked at Caesars Palace. Anyway,
the guy who was working with his mummy said, a
(09:56):
Brandon's a bit of a music fan. Made this a
band from the UK that have come. It must have
been enough to definitely maybe who are playing at a
place tonight and get him tickets. She went, oh, okay,
no worries, got him two tickets and he went and
watched Oasis in Caesar's Palace instead to change his life.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No way, they played at Caesar's Palace, seesze that would
have been good. Yeah, oh, I still want to I'll
tell you before we move on to some of the
Yash's talk and the rugby llyge. I do want to
say my head hit the pillow last night and I
was all but decided that I was going to move
to London and still woke up with thoughts of it.
Maybe you know, twenty twenty six, even if it's for
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just a short period of time. I would love because
the UK culture. I just love it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I love getting around in me Manchester, United Jersey. I
felt like, you know, I felt like a young kid
kicking the soccer ball in the backyard. Yeah, I'm very excited.
I don't know where i'd live over there. London the
most expensive city on the world to live.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Apparently i'd move either Liverpool or Manchester. I love I
love the North of England. Yeah, I just love it, man.
I love the culture, I love the people, I love
the music, I love everything about it. I pined for
the North of England.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
While we're running.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
By the way, there's also missile toe, big toe or
tic tac on top of your toe that might work.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are we still on that?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Dad? Can I ask? Should I turn him down?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
No? Happy. No, it's good two handed show, it's good.
Let him join in. Okay, Ashes we win, Ossie's win
three nil over England. A lot of people who have
been asking me to give a bit of fooedback. Why
aren't they called Great Britain like in the old days
with the Ashes tour. Well, the reason is that they
have to be called England because they revert to the
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name Great Britain. They don't get funding from the English government. Yeah,
why why.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is it called the Ashes? Is there a reason for that?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well? Do you know the original reason for the Ashes
for cricket, don't you? Okay, So what it was? I
think it must have been not the first of a series.
What they did They burn at the Bales, Yeah, in
the first ever series and they put him into an
urn and that's what they're playing for the Ashes. Okay, right,
so we've just taken it off there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love because you know in the cricket the Ashes
trophy it's so small.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And you remember there was I think it was Tony
Jones they call Chompers and he's on the TV and
he was going, oh, he's going look at him over there,
the crick he's holding up the ashes and it's so
funny how something so small can be so impressive, and
his female co host goes, well, you know about that, Tony.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You remember that?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And then there was that there was another incident he
had with the same co host when he goes, they're
wrapping up like a news story and he goes, oh,
tell you what, this weekend forty degrees, you should come
around for a barbie, and she goes, no thanks, and
he goes, okay, some great He's so awkward. So back
in the day they used to have like like on
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the news and like breakfast sort of TV. They just
have like great, like funny moments that would happen, like
I remember that guy who was just like they came
bounding over.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dog Man.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then there was one There was one of the
reporters who was at a lake one day and a
duck like thought he was threatening his babies, and it
just attacked him live on the end. The rooster, the
rooster that they're in like there might have been for
the Easter show and they're in the farmer section and
the rooster just started attacking him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, well, I won't remember the guy over. There was
a burglary up in Queensland and they interviewed the bloke
and he goes yeah, and I came out right and
the yeah, good on your mate. You want to be
a hero, do you?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
They're so good bring that back.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But three nil the Aussies won. Yeah, it was the series.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
On a whole.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It really hurts me to say this because as a great,
fantastic three nil it's done. It's done a lot of
good things for the game over there, which is really important.
It could have been been a series the English had
just showed the divide between us, between US and the
and the English side, and and we never read our
very very best. I wanted it to be a really tight,
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hard fought series. It wouldn't even worried me. It don't
sound un Australian if they didn't won, oh you know
what I mean, because you have the booster to give
the game. But my second one was hoping that, like
the eighty two and eighty six ashes, that we went
over there and our players showcased actually how good that
side potentially you know we're going to be and you
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know people that look and just go wow, like, I mean,
how good is that? But we never quite got going.
I think part of it to coop Jack is the
reason in the old Kangaroo Tours, you go over, you
play about five or six club games before you play
the first test, then five or six cloud game, so
you've got you've got a lot of game time together
and a lot of time to form combinations where the
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side really didn't getting up they didn't get a lot
of time to gel.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think it, like you said, reflection on the England
team complay to Australia, but I think it's it's such
an indication of just where the soup like that competition
is at because that a lot of those ninety percent
of that team apart from Farnworth, Dom Young and Brimo
were people from the Super League and you could just see,
particularly with the attack, like the quality in the attack
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and the footy IQ was so different because England, especially
Game two, they did a good job of like making
it ugly like it was always going to be like
if they could make it because they're really physical and
they could disrupt force a lot of error. They got
a lot of areas out of Tino in that game too,
because they're physical, they're strong and they can kind of
bring you down to their level and make it an ugly,
scrappy game. But with the footye, I think in three
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games they scored only like two or three tries. They
just could not with the football, the quality of the attack,
the attention to detail and like the X factor. They
just didn't have what your likes of months to Harry,
Cleary and Walsh had.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
A couple of the players that left out of the
squad Amaze meet. Now. I'm not sure whether it was
an injury, particularly with Maddie Nicholson. I'm not sure about that,
but two of the first forwards I would have picked
a fold Sean Wayne would have been Maddie Nicholson and
a young Blake who's a wig and young backrower at
junior in Noceumber. He is a very very special player.
On the app he maybe went off a little bit
(16:05):
as far as his form, but when we're in Vegas,
I tipped to people, I said, mate, you watched this kid.
It's just a powerhouse. And I was amazed that neither
of those players were picked. As I said before, I
don't know whether there was a slight injury, but Nicholson,
up until when he got injured a magic round mate.
He was the best background the competition just outstanding player
Matt in Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I couldn't believe They've got so many good talented players
in England right who probably aren't getting noticed because the
competition does have as many eyes on it and it's
not as quality competition. But you see when some of
those players come to the NROL, they make a real
impact and they at like even when Johnny Bateman came over,
like the imput that they can make to an NRL team.
It's just about getting that same culture environment and competition,
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particularly in the coaching ranks as well, Like the coaching
in Australia are so good, like it is so good
at the NRL level that if they can sort of
replicate a lot of that cultural stuff and take it
over to the Super League and improve that competition, I
think we'll see the Ashes become quality like it was
back in sort of eighties nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
In the nineties. Will keep just a little thing on
that which you may find interesting you and Jacob maybe not.
I find things interesting that surprise, surprise, no one does.
But if you look at the history of the English game, right,
and I think as told from Kangaroo Tours nineteen to
seventy eight we went over the Kangaroo Tour and it
was a really tough hard foot series. When we went
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back over in eighty two, it blew that we blew
them out of the water. Now, the question is why
what happened? Now that four years in between Australian sport
we austra and ragularly went through a bit of a
revolution as far as diet, diet, nutrition, but also training,
skill work, fitness, all those things. But the other one
that happened in between that time, crucially with state of
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origin football emerged and that took our rugby league, your
elop players to a completely level, another level or two up.
And so when we went over there these players and
made mind you we had a fair side. There was
a place like Steve Rodgers you wouldn't have seen played
who was made just a genius footballer. Malmoning Wally Lewis
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in eighty two could not have made this starting lineup.
It was Stirling and Kenny. But that team when they
went over there, and this is what I'm talking about.
My wish was that side that went away could have
been it's on paper one of the greatest Australian touring sides. Now,
if they'd have really got going. On one hand, you're
looking going, oh mate, this is bad for England, We're
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beaten them by forty points. But on the other hand,
I would have loved for the English public to sit
there and watch on the BBC and just gone, my god,
how good are these blokes? That would have been That's
a different kind of advertisement for the game, but a
great one.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The point you make there, I think a big part
of why, especially in these big representatives games you see
like Monster Cleary, Harry Reese Walsh, they go to the
next level. It'd be interesting to see the effect like
State of Origins had with these players they practiced. They
get three games a year on this huge stage against
the best players in that comp and they get to
practice at an intensity of a game that is unlike
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you can get a replicate a Club Land yep. If
the Super League was able to replicate a State of
Origin s type thing like North England verse South England
where all the best players in that comp play against
each other for a three games series during the year,
I think you'd see a lot of improvement in those players,
like in the individual players that go there, because you're
being exposed to a really high level of football, and
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I think you'd see a rapid improvement in those players.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They've tried before. They try to think called the War
of the Roses, which back historically, the War of the
Roses was a war between Lancashire and Yorkshire. They tried
that over there. They tried a state of origin concept
with all the Lancashire players now Lancashire, or all the players
from Wigan and Saint Helen's and Warrington and so on,
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and all the Yorkshire teams were like teams like Leeds
and Castleford and so on, and so that it just
never caught on. I never caught the imagination of the public,
and a lot of the public over there were going,
why are our best Why are they our best players
playing against each other?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
If that makes sense. It never the concept never took
off that they should. But the more we go over
and the more they come out here, the better it
is for their game. But I thought individually some of
the performances Munster was two things about Monster. I thought
his performances are outstanding. Crucially for Munster, he's adjusting his
game as he gets older. He's had the hip and
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growing problems. He doesn't have that, saying that he's lost
a meter a speed which happens when you get past
thirty anyone, and weighed on but he's he'll love that.
But he's adjusted his game. Mate, He's playing a lot
smarter game these days. He's kicking game was outstanding. And
the other thing I loved to about Munster. I was
watching nine News the other night and there was a
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mother there and it breaks heart, a young mother with
her beautiful little son who was sitting in a whel
chair who had brain cancer. And Munster went straight over
and like you know, shook the kid, give the kid
a cuddle and his mum. Then Keon Kalama Tonguey went
over as well. Then all the team come over. I
just thought, there are some things that are more important
than football, and so well, Dounder the boys over there,
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because my understanding they've been doing. They did things like
that all the way through the tour. Were very well received.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Unsurprisingly, Yeah, they looked like they enjoyed themselves over there
as well. Looks like they were having a good time.
But well, you said, Munster, you know what I think
was good for why Monster excelled in that environment as well,
because those the English team don't really wrestle that much.
Like they hit very hard. They're physical, but they don't
slow the play the ball down like most Australian teams
do and what Monsters used to. So you saw, like
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you said you saw while she saw Monster, you saw
Harry playing out of his skin because they were getting
a lot of quick play the balls, like the attack
was so much quicker than they used to, which brings
Monster and those lads in it ree Whilsh was unbelievable
that try that he scored off the scrum in game three.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
We just caught it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Really wide, fifteen meters wide pass from Harry off the
scrum and then just goes left foot, left foot goes
over untaxed.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, the man who you watch, if you get back
and watch that right, what he does, he's so clever Ruse.
He'll sit opposite the bloke who's marked him like he's
target defender. He'll sit opposite him, and that defender whose
opposite is acutely aware of Reese's speed. And so when
the ball gets fired from the scrum from Nathan, you
watch he fades, he fades, and when up like defensively.
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Let people know you're supposed to go up dead straight,
bolt straight, and if he fades, he runs into another defender.
But Reese is so lightning quick that that defender loses
their nerve and actually starts chasing early, so that fade,
you watch him, he just goes check, check, and just
goes straight through.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They all over chase. They all have to come off
sideways because he's just too quick for him.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Other than what an ambassador to mate, oh mate, But
like the way he gave himself to the public. Yeah,
you know it's good on him and a.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Bloody, handsome young boy at that other big news in
rugby leagues chez ar DC.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And just one moment. You can't mention him because people
give it to you to event all the time. But
well do Harry. I think it's in between Harry Grant
and Monster for the Golden Boot Now I think Harry
is a dog.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just quickly before we actually do change topic. While we're
in England at the moment, we haven't spoken too much
about the Ashes and about what's going on between the
NROL and the Super League.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's going to get your.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Opinion cover what are your thoughts on the London Broncos,
the consortium that went over there getting bumped back. Do
you think it has something to do with the NRL
and the Super League maybe negotiating to get the deal done.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, it's interesting, Jack, because it seems as though that
franchise is going to be a no brainer. That's a
strange one, you know, Jack, I'll tear what it might
be because there's a real split over there in the
rugby league. Half of the clubs are really cool for
the NRL to take over the other half ago and no, no, no,
we don't need the We don't need the Aussies, we
don't need the NRL. Let's just for Joe Path. I
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wonder Jack, given the fact that London appeared to be
going to be almost like a bit of an Aussie club,
if that makes sense, whether that was one of the reasons.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I was suspecting. Do you think if they're negotiating it
becomes a bit of murky If there's an Australian money
going towards a English side and then the Neral's looking
to buy the franchise as a part of a bigger deal,
does it become sort of like maybe the nroll in
that negotiation might be a bit of a bargaining chip
for for the English side.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, Jack, I don't know. It's a really precarious situation
at the moment. Shane Richardson, he's very good operator, Richo,
and he spent a lot of time in England with
Gates hid Thunder excuse me emotional and then and then
Hull Richo's gone, and Richo pushed forward over there from
the people he's got associates over there to say, guys,
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shortened the competition, like I'm sorry, narrow, eliminate a few
of the teams, knock it downwards to an eight or
ten teen competition. Let the NRLL take over and things
will start to change. They've gone the other way. They've
expanded now, in my opinion, expansion. I think it was.
I think it's crazy for them at the moment because
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they're going to look, they're struggling for depth already. Then
they've got another three or four sides that have come in,
and on top of that, we've got two sides coming.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
In and I think even the like they're even struggling
with depth with the sides that they've got, and they've
got we've got a lot of talent and crop to
pick from where a super leg is struggling with depth
and talent right now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And coops and you just know that P and G
and Perth are going to have there's a fair chance
Perth is going to have quite a number of English players.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, definitely, yes, all right, DC to the rooster's finally
been announced. Obviously it was a deal that was probably
done verbally about six months ago, but it's only just
been announced. Thoughts on it, mate, I'm a big fan
of it. I think it's a good decision. I think
it definitely makes them a premiership threat short term. M
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what happens we Hugo Savala, I don't know. I don't
know where he's going to go. If he wants to
sit behind him for a year or two, you could
probably get a start somewhere else, though he.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Could somewhere else, but could you know, not so much
to sit behind him, It would be sit alongside him.
Like you know that three men walk three minutes? Yeah three?
You know, as we know it takes you need more
than just two sort of playmakers in that top seventeen.
So Hugo or one of them could push to assume
that fourteen roll. Hugo is going to learn and Sam
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seim walking and learn a lot off DC, that's for sure.
And Hugo, the temptation for Hugo is to go, you know,
go mate, look I've proven myself, then you've got to
sign on this bloke. My advice to Hugo would be
just be patient. Mate, might bidy in new minutes and
all that, you know, but what it's going to do
in the long term is going to make you a
better footballer.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm excited to see how the dynameterter in him and
Sammy Walker works because Samuel Hawker's obviously played half back.
He's on the right side for his kicking and that's
his preferred side, but he'll probably have to move over
to the left to allow Cherry on his preferred right side.
I'm interested to see how that dynamic was. I think
it's kind of good because Sam's not like Sam Walker
probably works better off the cuff as just a pure
(27:12):
reactor and just you know, early kicks using his footwork
when he sees tied defenders, whereas Cherry can probably assume
more of that steering them around the park role.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But as you've said before, but Cherry's best attribute is
his spot. When you see that reactive role as well,
so you know it's going to be a real good
I'd say Trent Robinson, He's sitting out there going how
do I solve this equation? So I like to play
a sort of structured style of attack. But now my
two principal playmakers and organizers are brilliant ad lib reactive,
(27:43):
reactive players. So how are we going to work this?
You know, what are we going to do? It will
be intriguing.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'd like to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think the change, I think the change in how
they may go about their football. I think it would
be really good for the Roosters.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and they've got James Tedesco, who's probably one of
the best ad lib footy players ever, quick play, that
just gets it and does his own things. So I'm
keen to see how those three work together. Cherry's played
a lot of footy with Teddy. This is actually I
caught up with Cherry during the week. Holy shit, he's
going to have the earliest preseason date that he's ever had.
I think he was about late November's. I think he's
(28:16):
kicking off. But he's a bloke that hasn't really, He's
done so many NRLD preseasons at mainly he hasn't been
back in November, probably since he was nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I reckon and exciting for him. Mate, He's going to
walk into a brand new schoolyard he's established at Manly.
He walks in there. Everyone knows what Cherry's about. But
now he walks in, it doesn't matter. You know, people
will go, oh, you know, he's got nothing to prove.
Any person who walks into a new club, whether it's
Diego Maradona, Andrew John's, Dally Tree Evans, they all feel
(28:47):
they've got something to prove to their teammates. And that's
exciting for him.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, he was a little bit like I don't know
what to expect. He was like the unknown of this
new Like I've never been to another club before. Like
so this new program, new gym pro like all these
different running techniques, Like there's so much, there's a whole
playbook he's got to learn as a halfback.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be your very best coop no matter
what it is. You need nerves, you need that apprehension,
that feeling, you got that little bit of fear and
that's what's going to give him this change. Walking into
that first daid of training, his guts will be rumbling.
It'd be like he's rookie again walking back into Manley and.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Little Ryan poopench Mounts and Ryan Papenhausen. Little Pappy has
immediately left the storm. There's the rumors of Rugby three
sixty after the next year when they start. I think
they start November twenty twenty six was when that competition starts,
So there's a lot of time in between. But he's
taken time off to just think about what he's going
to do. I mean me personally, no one perhaps knowing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What he's like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It actually wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't go to
Rugby three sixty, he doesn't play any of it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Just wouldn't spruce.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
If he just goes pulls a play, would not surprise
me at all.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He seems to me be a kid that as far
as on the peaking order of life rugby league s
it's about four or five.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's got so much going on. He's smart, like he
knows his bloody like business and stock markets really well.
So I think in sex too. Yeah, back in the
day they'll stick in sex breeding. But I think he's Yeah,
I think he's keen to have success post football in
whatever he wants to do as well. So it wouldn't
shock me if that. I mean, he's quite young still
(30:24):
and he's still got a lot to offer. Would be
good to see him, potentially if he wants to go
to Rubby three sixty, be good to still see the
flying mallets still run around.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
What are the boys saying that? Do they think he's
going to three sixty?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They don't know. They actually don't know. No one's really
Everyone's kind of like like, I don't know what he's
gonna do, But everyone sort of said the same thing,
like knowing peraps, you actually don't know what he's going
to do. Like usually you can make a guess and
it's quite easy, you know, like with chairs it was
quite easy to know knowing chairs, know he's still had
something to give that he was going to play on,
like he wasn't going to give it up, but with
perhaps quite unpredictable. Like I sit there and I was
(30:57):
thinking about it, and I go, I I wouldn't not
show me if he just goes. You know, I've had
I've had fun playing foot I've went a Clive Church,
I want a premiership. I've played over one hundred games.
Now I'm keen to do something else.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
If it was to say to you Cooper that you'll
never ever talk to Ryan Pappenhausen again, like basically in
your life, he'll just disappear out of you, would that
surprise you, Uh? Not really.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'd hope he doesn't just disappear because I like Paps. Yeah,
But he he is quite like an introvert and does
his own thing off the field. Like there was some
I remember there was a year there, but he'd had
a couple of head knocks at this stage. But like
we didn't even see perhaps for like four months, and
he was just kind of went and did his own thing,
did a lot of reading, had to have a lot
of blueberries for his brain because they're really good, Like
(31:38):
he was doing concussion stuff. So he just kind of
removed himself from like everyone and just did his own thing.
He's very He's not the kind of guy that would
just text you on the day off and be like
let's go do this, Let's go to this. Where most
of the boys are like that. He's quite a different
mold of rugby league player. But there's so many different
personalities and types and of rugby league club that's what
makes it up. But yeah, he is quite different in
(32:00):
that sense.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And on that note, just but my memory about like
head knocks put in a big cheered out to elikto.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah that was that was.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Terrifying, man, Yeah, that was sickening what happened. Just man.
That was when when I was sitting he was sitting
on the bench and I looked and I said, the
true true you could to kind of look to see
this when you're sitting there and you see Oh man,
it was. It was frightening.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I look, I don't know the ins and outs of
the whole doctor protocol or that. I don't want to
question went on that. But when I saw that, I
didn't actually watch the game that tongue in game, but
when I saw Lehigh knock him head class there and
knock him out in the warm up, I thought geez
Ellies was out of the game before the game started.
And then when I heard what had happened after, I
(32:41):
was shocked that he played the game. Seeing the footage
that I saw, I was so shocked and I was
like he in my opinion, like I've seen a lot
of headaches. I'm no doctor, though I don't know what
test they did, but when I saw it, he should
not have gone out there, just from my opinion. But
I'm no, I'm no doctor. You're not a doctor, no, no, no,
although I am a doctor of rugby league to go
(33:02):
his game off.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
All bloody look. Yeah, I'm looking to second guess the
doctors and all the things that went on. We just
wish him all the very best because maybe it was
it was that was incredibly scary, And I think about
his parents sitting there game like watching. I imagine I
don't know that he actually played. The worries he feeling
may have been there, but I hope they were, because
to watch from afar, that must have been your worst nightmare.
(33:25):
The other one is paying housekeeps talk about isn't hasn't
like he was. He was mooded before that. They were
looking at him, but suddenly out of the blue, they're
saying they're offering him three million dollars a year, three six. Yeah,
and that the way it's been spoken about, a fat
com pleae. He's going to go sheeus. I hope not.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I hope not, because I feel like he's still got
so much a given regularly. I know he's, but Jesus
has done a lot for a bloke. He's the same
age as me, he's twenty six, and Pain has now
done everything in the game origin now on a Grand
final like he's he has got much left to prove,
like and seeing what he's I could definitely see him
(34:06):
going and playing in that rugby three like R three
sixty over? And I think, are they going to be
based out of Dubai coops?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Well, now you get to pick your address. Oh so
you still think? I just I don't know. I'm looking
at it, like obviously there's a lot going on behind,
Like they don't tell the public everything, but they're going
to the franchises, franchises in Dubai Toky, London, London, Paris, Miami.
(34:33):
I was just going right, and they're saying they've got
a TV deal with YouTube. You know what I heard?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You know what I heard. I don't know what I
heard the other day, right, so this is now, Look, listeners,
all of our little back fences listening all right. I
just wanted to be knowing I am not like what
I say. I know a lot of you listen to
what I say, and you two did his gospel. But
I am not God, but this is what I inside herd.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So this is a revelation you've just said before not
a doctor. No, No, that blew me away straight away
because you put me in those antibiotics just before. And
secondly depositories and you tewish are the ones that go
in your ass? Yeah, that's what's the pository and you
(35:20):
put it on the shelf. That's what they say.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's what Shanda used to say. You poke it in
like you're at the post office and you know, you
put it in the thing go like that like you
know how the old post So you feel the suction
because we used to do it the silver bullet and
we would put it in and then Shandos said, you
just curl your index finger and just pop it on
the shelf to the left and then you'll feel the
and they just take it off. Wow, straight into the gart.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I'll give that a gar. What was the point Cooper's
not a doctor and the other one was said, he's
not God. What was I about to say?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh yeah, sorry, someone tipped me off saying that R
three sixty. They actually haven't got the funding for it yet, right,
So what they're doing is they're looking to sign all
these big names and then once they've got the big names,
they're hoping to get the funding and then it will
go ahead if they can get the funding. So what
could potentially happen is like, this is just what I'm
hearing allegedly. Let me throw that in there. But if
(36:12):
they have all these sign all these big name players,
the competition could still fall through in six months because
they don't get the proper funding needed to do the
whole competition. So I don't know how true that is.
That's just what an insider told me the other day
on the street, but he was homeless, so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Again too, But like they'd have to negotiate the TV
deal and that would have to be like that would
dictate most of the money.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Now think so, But you're.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Saying that they might be right. They might be reversing
reverse engineering it. Let's get the players, let's get the
star power. Then we'll take it to the broadcasting, to
the sponsors after that. But that's a big risk.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, that's a big risk.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And the other thing about it, Coopses and Jack is
that sport is support is at his tribal and it's
purest form. It is tribal. And I'm looking and going, okay,
so this team in Miami, there's a team and take
you there's a team in Dubai.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Like I just go as it too international, it's too broad.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Even when Liverpool were winning Champions League, the thing that
really stuck in their craws was the fact that they
hadn't won a Premier League title or a league title
for such a long time. And even though they won
Champions leagues like you know, AC Milan and the top
clubs for European glory, for them it was secondary because
they hadn't you know, it was a bittersweet because they
(37:35):
hadn't won the league. That's an example how the purest
form of sport is tribal.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Their competitiveness like New Soos, Queensland are states that really
kind of don't like it. Tell that even outside of
State of Orange.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Let's look at some of the big cities around the world. Right,
so you've got let's go Glasgow Celtic versus Glasgow Rangers,
Fenerba versus Galatas. Right in this dambul all these ac
Milan into Milan Manchester night of Manchester City, Munich versus
Player Munich versus Bruce Adortment a little bit further away.
(38:11):
But you know, in sport and and in and if
you like, and the best one in rugby league, the
biggest derby and rugby league is South Sidney rabbit Os
versus Sidney Easterns Roosters, or in England Whole kr versus
Hull Orson Helen's versus Wigan. They just sit alongside each other.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's the like, that's the one like you can you
make die hard fans by like through just people because
unless they get Taylor Swift, I can't see that happening too.
Swift as playing well, she's a bit of a cult herself.
Like if I'd say they signed Taylor Swift, I reckon
there's a fair chance they'd have quite the following. Whatever
team she signs for, what position would she play that?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Sorry there, Jack, Jack's really really when he Jack chimes
in today, really very random, very very random.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I like it. Random. Jack's a good Jack.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, you know, we're gett into the back end of
the year, so happy, happy to allow that.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I'm about to go to Thailand. So I'm hitting the yeah, yeah,
I'm hitting the backstraps. I'm looking for Uncle Ricos thinking
about that.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, that our man in white Latus letting it have
been railed. Who are going over there? Still the greatest movie?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Going there on your own?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
No, I'm taking gem there. You're missing out on Thailand
just for eight days and then we'll be back and
back following in to for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
As I said before, Jack, go to Bangkok, go to
the Chinatown of Bangkok. It is insane. You know, it's
the greatest.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Experiencecause I'm going to be home home stallone because you
guys are all going to be out and there might
be a little bit of a shindig being thrown. I'm jealous,
you know.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Anyway, that's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Sorry, did I have to do? We have anything else?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
All I want to say is this. In recording this,
we're about to go upstairs. We're going to watch the
Pacific Champion. Oh yeah, okay, So if we're not, we're not.
Haven't been speaking about that directly because we haven't seen
it yet for reasons which we will not disclose. Yeah,
we had to do the podcast early, but what.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Reason was that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, you said, I don't know what the reason is.
Can you go ahead and tell us?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Do you have a reason?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Rhymes pokys?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
What rhymes with that?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Stoky? I don't know, No, no, no, I've just got
some stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know what's good. We've got cheese. Brandon Smith, he's upstairs.
He's playing like that's why we duck down here. So
sheal nice to get away from him for a bit
because he's got that much energy at the moment, talking
me years off. But he's up there playing monopoly with Tree.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
He looks good brand.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
He's up there playing monopoly with Trish Trush, Oh my god.
And I can think of nothing worse than playing ball
games for you, Tresh.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh mate, borders in not be a B A B
going b O A R D. It's b O R
E D. You got bored?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, you're off today?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
What a way to finish your off today?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Just I'm still buzzing for Oasis.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You're still buzzing climax early inside.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You're the underclass. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
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