September 30, 2025 ā¢ 53 mins
The big dance is here! š Broncos take on the Storm in the 2025 NRL Grand Final, and the boys break it all down. Christian Welch dials in to give us the inside word, plus it’s the annual Backstage Dally M Awards. And yes… rugby league has never been this horny.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the matter, daddy, You're not yourself at the moment,
you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit sad.
I tear. What could really pick my mood up?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Could?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'll do anything.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
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really elevate my spirit.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
If the people respect you as a man and as
a as a medium mogul in Australia, I'm sure they
will do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It well, I hope. So it takes me back to
my own excellence.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
How good was that that weekend? That was horny rugby league?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Which would that be?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Both games were good, but I mean the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's so this final series has been so frisky.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh this is I think this is as horney as
rugby league has ever been.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's as horny as I describe it as horny as yeah,
and honey is what horney?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just as you know, we just leave it at that
horny goat weed.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Cornyed horney.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
As you remember, what's your favorite horny animal? Not as
in sex drivee as in with a horn I'll go first,
rhino love. I think you rhino is such a justic
beasts in South Africa and being around the presence of
such a beast that at one drop of a hat,
it could kill you if it one or two. But
it chose not to the.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Black rhino and the white rhino because in the white rhina,
it isn't called the white rhino because it's white. It's
called the white rhino because it was a misinterpretation because
it's got a wider jaw.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Supposed to be wide rhino. And then they decided to
white rhino because actually we're going to get the white
rhino on in a few minutes. Christian Welsh, which he's
known as the white Rhino, he gave himself that nickname
the white rhino fun fact for u Rays because white
runners are almost extinct, like they're the most endangered species
of rhino. And he considers the rhino an animal that
(01:43):
is synonymous with the front rowers, and he thought that
the white front rower was being endangered given that he
was surrounded by mainly Polynesian front rowers, so he called
himself the white rhino. Yeah, and then the boys quickly
pivoted and changed that because they thought rhino's quite tough
and they changed his nickname to the Sea Cow. The
(02:04):
okay the jew go.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes as a young since he was inverted commas medically retired.
But we'll ask you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We'll ask you. I'm not sure, but Ras mend good
to have you back in. This is our last preview episode,
so you know where this leaves you. Raise in terms
of rental houses, like whether Dad's going to allow you
to keep staying in the garage. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Men, you can stay in the garage.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Mate, Yeah, I really appreciate it in hard times. So
it's been it's been great.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Being here, mate, Ras.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Listen, our garage doors always open you.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It doesn't block.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Our garage is your garage.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tell you what we did. Me and Ras on the
weekend had a good time. We went down and had
Japanese together because everyone was away and Jesus was good Japanese.
We had sashimi, takoshimi, tark Kintara.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Younestly people, if you're Coolroyd, you must go to Kintaro.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, we're really like specific to our audience. But if
you're ever passing Choloro and it is doesn't take walking,
so you make sure you book go there. But the
sashimi tacos, she's that good.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, unbeaten. I think the only two sort of feeds
that you get at the moment are Alimento's and Kintaro
A couple of.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Doors down people. If you want, if you want ace,
pasta and pizza, go to Alimento's and say gooday to
old Mario forus good.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Man, massive manly fan massive, although loves Gothe but he's
not happy with some of their recruitment and retention.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He's going to be less happy next year.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And then we watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows?
Have you ever seen you ever watched Harry Potter?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Dad, never seen an episode. Not interested to a movie,
but yeah, okay, not interested.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You've got to get give it a chance.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Give it a girl. You went on the roller coaster
in in Diniversal Studios.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
That's something that was good.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, trust me, you won't regret giving it a chance.
Nicol Klokstad.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
A clot star clost sorry star.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A bit of controversy with the Grand Final this week.
None bigger than the two day advantage. You've been a
big advocate on saying how big an advantage? It is
that Melbourne have got playing two days earlier. Watching that
game on Sunday Broncos os Penrith. Where do you sit
with it now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, Coop, it is an event. It's a significant advantage.
I know Madge has done the right thing. He's come
in and said, no, it's garbage. There's no advantage because
of the fact that he doesn't go back to his
players and go, you know, and give them like they're
under the pump, or give Melbourne any sense that they
have got an advantage. But they have. It's two days,
not just the two days, Cooper, but the nature of
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the two games, the way they both sides went through.
Melbourne played a Friday night game against Cronulla in coolish
conditions down there. It was a very stop start game.
The tempo was only moderate and you compare that to
what happened on Sunday, great next speed, hot conditions against
(05:03):
the defending premiers. Fourteen nil down and find a way
to win and the last that last fifteen minutes will
last most of the second half. If you look at
both packs for the Broncos and the Panthers, they were gone,
just out on their feet. You had players actually looking
to the bench to be replaced. It has to be
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, and I think Melbourne would understand. They're going to
I imagine they're going to play to that advantage in
a sense where they're going to try to make the
game as physically hard as they can, knowing that Broncos
watching that game, knowing that Broncos are going to fatigue
a little bit quicker, be a little bit sourer body wise.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
When we go into the preview further, we can talk
about the impact that the fatigue can have and where
Melbourne take advantage of that, but also the X factor.
I want to talk about the Broncos preseason and how
important that has booned from them them coming like basically
doing two miracle recoveries in their last two outings in
(06:01):
the finals, fourteen down, fourteen points down in both games.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We're going to get the jew going on, but we're
going to get him because we want to talk about
the Stefano comments. At the start of this week. Stefano
has come out saying he can't wait to run at
some of the Broncos players because he doesn't like a
few of them. Thinks they're stuck up. I love to
see it because you're seeing a lot of shit talk
in the media and whatnot. But I love seeing it
(06:28):
from a front rower because he's in he's in the
middle of the field, he's in the firing. Like you
see it from the spine players who have jabs at
people and whatnot because they're sort of the creatives. But
to see it from a bloke whose Stefano is very quiet.
He's a quiet, my nature bloke and he's out there
calling out the Broncos pack, I do actually like it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I do like it, and I like the fact I
like the fact that he's gone. But if the Broncos
are presenting themselves as stuck up, I actually like that
as well, because that is the old Broncos DNA back
in the day when you play the Broncos during their
golden ear, Alfhie and Kevy and that even the blokes
who carried the water, even Bunny Paul Bunn, who's the
recruitment manager now at Melbourne when he was the recruitment
(07:07):
guy at Brisbane. Who the fuck is that bloke and
why does he think he's better than normal?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And I will say that he is a part of
the the Broncos DNA, Like you said, because you go
up to Brisbane, they are lords up there. You walk
around Brisbane City, they've got posters up with the Broncos boys.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Even they come on.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Last they think they think the whole of Australia has
posters up of them. Sometimes even though you go you
go to Melbourne, they don't even know who the Broncos are,
but there is they do have that swagger about him.
You go up to Brisbane, you play for the Broncos
like you are a rock star and that set that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And whenever they're winning comps, that's how they present themselves.
That's part of their DNA.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
The fin has probably got the hardest job on the weekend.
You know Pain half so like do anything you can
to get in the guy's head and truck win And.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, Rasman, I'm not sure if he was talking
about pain, but one thing I can guarantee is Michael
Maguire will convince Pain that he was.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I think we've got him on the line here,
not Stefano, but we do have another in his mental
one of his enforcing front rows, Christian Welch.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
How are you buddy, guys?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Great to be on. I love hearing people talking about
front rollers.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Let's get going, mate.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We love players on minimum pay.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, Welchie as a as a former hard man of
the Melbourne Storm had it was. We're in the middle
of talking about Stefano's comments going after the Bronx boys.
Did you love it as much as I did?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I loved it. I couldn't get enough of it. But yeah,
he's going to be up against it because his past. Yes,
he is eighty minutes straight. He's ny for all of it.
And there's the reason why the white front roller is
our days, the numbered our feet, dwindling looks because the
boys he's specific onland, Oh my life, so just so
big and powerful. And then he's got the combination of everything.
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He's got the power and the endurance. So it's going
to be one hell of a bad all. But yeah,
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, you're right. Well, she like the emergence of the
Pacific gold on front rowers, the fact that they've got
amazing endurance even though they're about one hundred and twenty
kilos plus, they've got great footwork and mobility. And I
look the other day, well she and I was thinking, right,
who are the best middle forwards of all time, and
I go, well, you know the ones that I've seen,
I mean, Arthur Beats. I never got to see Arthur much,
(09:24):
you know, very very little as far as life football.
But you go Glenn Lazarus and then I'll go, right, okay, Talmalola,
Adam f Nol, Blake Painhass and well she of course,
but you know what I mean, Like it's at the
moment we are in like in the midst of the
greatest era of middle forwards.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Absolutely, and for my career it has to be hard
Graves and Vomits. Yeah, the ten years they were by
far the most dominant front rowers. And yeah, it's it's
really amazing. And I think he used for some of
those you know Toma, Like that's all those teams. They're
just a half away from some real international success. They've
always had a board pack just going to give it
(10:07):
a craft of the Well.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm telling you now, I sat with it with Isaiah
Kattowa two weeks ago when he was on our Sunday
Night show. We watched the Dogs Panthers game. He's twenty
one years of age. Well, she, he is the smartest
footballer I have ever spoken to as far as tactics
and everything. Mate, he was. He just he blew me
away smart. I know, I know, I knew how I
(10:31):
was sitting there Contemplamee said, do I say this out?
But and I immediately went to the blokes at Fox
Sports and just said, mate, you've got to sign this kid.
So they put him on last Friday night on the
panel Isaiahatawa and he's sitting there with Cooper Krank, Kiaran
Forren and braithan Asta and mate, he was. He was unbelievable,
(10:52):
Like talking to they bought. They were shocked at how
good he was. He will is my prediction, Isaiah Cattell
will be the best player of all time when he finishes.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You say this, You say this every week on the
It's a big call, but he says every week.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He will be. He will be the best player of
all time.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Welchy, mate, you're you're up. You're up in Sydney at
the moment. Aren't you coming up to cash in on
you know, your former club being in the Grand Final?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
What's on?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
What's on for the week for you?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh? Just just spreading the sweet sweet word of rugby league,
That's all I'm doing. Yeah, you know, old brother wels
down in the you know a fl heartland. I'm just
trying to grow our beautiful game and help us grow
down here. Why not? But yeah, give the mighty time
might have might have helped us get a few catches.
I'm unemployed in a month as well, fellas you know, yeah, yeah,
(11:42):
if you know anyone?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, well, why don't you sell yourself now because we've
got We've got a lot of people listening to this
when it comes out in the morning. You have a mower,
any any brand, any brands, mate, you want to work
with or just anyone that you want to sell yourself
to it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, I'm just struggling a bit. I'll really happening to
get on a top tier podcast, maybe Kenty or Buzzers,
But I don't know if you've got the I don't
know if you've got the audience started, and I.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Should follow you, son of a bit.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'll tell you what was talking about growing the game
in Melbourne? What about was it your jersey flegg? Yeah yeah,
mate won the Grand Final and full of full of
local products. It just shows you the growth of the
game down there due to.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The storm man, I reckon the storm had had a
good look at Penrith and just look at that that
nursery they've got there. And obviously how you know, you
can replane talent pretty cheap by just developing them in
your backyard, you know. And obviously you've got to do
a good job at taking these fifteen sixteen year old
to Tournam into first graded. But that's what Penouthine's so
good at. Obviously I've lost so much guy, so many
guys over the years, but they've brought them through. You
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love guys like Lindsay Smiths and you know, a whole
bunch of them. Now. I think the storm a going, hey,
look this model of bringing Queensland and this Welshman down
it works. But if we can get them on our
doorstep and start producing, and particularly the huge specifica community
down there, you know, they're they're not built for AFL
fields either, so they're right for the taking. So we
just got to put a bit more resources in, a
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bit more coaching and development at an earlier age and
you will start to see the fruits. I think, because
it is it's probably not good enough to be fair.
I think we've got five or six victween and I
think we're twenty six years old. So there's a long
way to go. But I think Frank Pnie's he's really
enjoying us trying to build that out and then having
Anol's Cup stand alone team next year. That's not cheap
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to do, so the club obviously facing a big emphasis on.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That'll come under the salary cat you reckon well chi.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I think having on top of them out and
there you don't get the downy and the discussion the
other day by how many clubs are then caught cheating
the cap right ever since? But no one like everyone
hates the storm for cheating the cap. I only's been
five or six, right, but no.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You're breaking out and you're breaking up. Well, this is
a wind free zone. I'll tell you what in that
Jersey Fleet. So I've got a half back, special half
back through a whit more about him later on. Well,
we were just on the ground final. We were just
talking there about the two days extra recovery and it
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has to be affected not just the two days well
she but the nature of both both games. I mean
the Broncos played that game on the Sunday, steaming hot conditions,
break neck speed. It's it's got to be a factor.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think I understanding there's just the violence and the
physicality of that game. It definitely was I think up
from Friday Night's prelim. So I think the Storm, you know,
they'll be liking, they'll be well rested, but they need
to go to that level of the penwith Bronx games.
I think that prelim probably was to step up, and
I don't know, the Storm's been just drawn enough this year.
I think they're obviously so well coached and they've got
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enough talent, but I just don't think they really clicked
as of yet. But you know they're gonna be arrested,
but they need to step it up because it's you know,
the Bronx come out like that not I think the
only difference between Bronx Penrith was the week off. You
could just see Penrith weather that storm early and then
at last fifteen you could tell, I just reckon that
extra game. You know, in the lakes they just lost
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a bit of pop and then you know, all game
the Bronx were catching you know, five ten meters out
and then they started living in that field position battle.
But yeah, I think it's going to one hell of
a game.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Well chie before we let you go? Can we get
you know, old boy, your former captain of the club
medically retired this year. You're in your first You're going
to be doing the retirement lap on Grand Final night?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah? No doing please?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, you're sure you'll be fine. But what's your predictions
for the game? Hit us with it?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Predictions? I don't know. We had storm low scoring and uh,
they're going to probably go after Whiles trying to put
him into the phone box, put him under pressure and
try and fall some areas out of him. But stease,
he wasn't making so many areas on Sunday. But let's
go Jerome Hughes Clive, you know, with the web Ke
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sending off ruck forward scoring tries, I think he'll be
our best on.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well that not enoughing has been made of Jerome like Webke.
It's gone down in Broncos folklore playing the Grand Finals
the broken I've we had five weeks. That was five
weeks after break any for arm and amazing achievement. Jerome
was twenty two days.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, I mean if you win. I imagine if he
wins this weekend, they'll make a big deal out of it.
But nonetheless, he's a tough man for a bloke who
doesn't train or isn't really tough away from the football.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But I think he's already pulled out a quie. I
think he's going to get a shoulder off as well,
so I think he's banged up the old boy. But yeah,
what a what a great player and a great story.
You think that he played one game, that one game
of the Titans and got ressold from both of them
and now he is a dali m Premiership player and
trying to win his second one.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Pretty pretty impressive, certainly, is Christian, mate, We've we've given
We've given you too much airtime made.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Good luck on your by the way, coming on.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Trisha is and on. We've got the ras man here.
If you want to say, how to raise How are
you mate?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're doing well?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Con sense to love this geez there.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The friction is amazing. Oh what a piece of ship.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
He is at least bagging.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It reminded me of the time. Remember when we went
down to Melbourne and we watched a game at the
g It was the Swans verse Richmond whatever team. We've
been on the drink all day and we went back
to I think it was Nico's or something. Christian was
there one of our mates, Jackie p. He was so
drunk and he had he's not a big Footy fans.
He had no idea who Christian Welsh was. He's calling
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him Chrissy Hemsworth all day and then and then by
the end of it he was offering Christian a place
to stay in our airbnb if you need waste, I'm
the captain of Captain of Queen.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then yeah, he goes, mate, we've got to spare catch
if I think he thought he was like like just
like just a hanger on or like homeless mate of everyone,
and he was if you want to play, well, she
gets the Chris Hemsworth look alike all the time?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Does he really all the time?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Gets it?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Gets it?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But then the boys sort of caught onto it, and
then whenever because girls would sometimes say to him, you
look at Chris Hansworth and he if a girl when
he was single, obviously, if a girl in a club said, oh,
you look like Chris Hamsworth, he would walk her over
to the table where all the boys were and say
can you repeat that. Oh he's a funny man. All right,
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let's get into the Grand Final preview. The team lists.
First of all, Melbourne completely unchanged, as we suspected, nothing
really going on there, but Broncos Paddy Carrigan bigin comes
into Locke and they've dropped Tyson Smoothie to the bench
and Ben Talty comes out of the side. Who taults was?
He's been playing really well for them. He has sliding
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a lot of people won't know this Ben Talty. He
was a new Castle with Jack mate with Jack, but
he actually did the preseason at the Storm this year.
He so he did the preseason at the Storm and
then played reserve grade for the North Sydney Bears. Bronco
signed him out of that reserve Gode side. So well,
I mean if he was he's going to be eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Imagine if he was on the bench and you're playing
a Grand Final against the team you just did a
preseason with great story, it would have been a great story. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Pat Carrigan's a begin huge if Broncos would have win,
He's a pretty good bet for Club Churchill medal because
they're going to need a big game for him because,
as we said before, they're up against it. After that
game against Penrith on Sunday. But he's fresh. He's had
two weeks off, but he's the fresh set of legs
and fresh lungs and yeah, and he's going to need
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a big game, has needs him. Hass has carried the
load of that side for quite a while, and last
week Hass was monumental.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, A lot of people probably don't realize how busted
Pain is actually playing. He doesn't really show it, but
he's been injured majority of the year, and he hasn't
missed as many games as he probably should have with
like some knee stuff that he's had through Origin, and
he hasn't done a whole heap of training on the field.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Cop I heard out of the Origin period there was
talk that he he was getting an epidural in his
back of sorts to play a tough mate.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
He's a bloody tough man.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Let's talk about what about the the X factor, because
I know You've got quite a lot to say on
your X factor for this game.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And it relates to the two days off and how
hard it's going to be for yeah, well not how
hard it's going to be for the Broncos, just how
significant a factor it is the way the Melbourne Storm play.
This is going to be the ultimate test of physical
and mental toughness from the Broncos. But I can tell you,
I'll tell you what and the X factor is the blood,
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sweat and spew buckets that that michaelm maguire produced at
the start of the year. Now he got hammered because
it right and the people apparently, you know, the the
NRL investigator when it came out RLPA had a look
at it. People were saying, you know that Madge's training
methods were Dryconian. They were saying his players were off him,
(21:12):
all that sort of stuff. Well, let's just go back.
I want to tell you a story about a little
story about the history of the Broncos which lends itself
to you know, the price you have to pay to
have success. Now, the end of season nineteen ninety one,
the Bronco still hadn't won a title. And so what
Wayne Bennett did. Wayne Bennett stole the strength and condition
from the Camper Raiders. The philical Calvin Giles, Now Kelvin
(21:36):
Giles was like he was, his background was he was
a physical conditioner for the Great Britain Athletics side. So
you picked up by the Raiders. They went back to
back and Wayne and Wayne obviously that made we need
a bit of still. So he got him in all
he said, and he was the mark. The way Giles
(21:58):
trained rugby league sides revolution was the way that we
prepare footballers. He had known. It was about made physical
condition with an onus on power training, turning rugby league
players from being basically like middle distance runners into pure
power athletes. Right, but of course you need the cardio
of ascular side as well, that hard cardio training, mate.
(22:19):
The only message the way he said to Wayne Bennett,
what do you want me to do? All Wayne said
to him it was get some steel into this team mate.
The Broncos players and the Raiders' players before that talk
about him. They said it was terrifying. They said, mate.
The training sessions, mate, every time you train, got you
out in the field and started doing conditioning. Everyone was
physically sick, he said. Not only that, he said, it
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was Laurie Daily said, Kelvin Giles is the only man
who made me physically sick in the gym. He trained
them that hard and made like I'm talking mate, Kelvin
was merciless and he pushed the players, you know, beyond
what they thought was their mental and physical capability. But
guess what they went back to back in ninety two
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ninety three, And that's that's what it is. For success,
you need to pay a price. And so for Madge,
Madge handing those spew buckets on day one to the
Broncos players was sending a message, this is what we're
going to be about. I'm going to put some steel
into you blokes. If you want to have success, you've
got to pay the price. So for the Broncos getting
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to this Grand Final, right, for the Broncos to have this,
the two remarkable comebacks fourteen nil down against two quality
sides against the Raiders, no less, and then the defended premiers,
the Broncos Mate. The secret of that of their success
in winning those games sat at the bottom of that
spew bucket way back in November, right, that's where it began.
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That was the genesis of the success that the Broncos haven't.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And you don't. I don't think there's ever been a
team that would have won an NFL com who didn't
train there have an amazing preseason. That's right, well, exactly
the second Melbourne. The secret of Panrith Roosters when they
went back to back, like those teams trained incredibly hard
and a lot of people say, oh, you know, you
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get to the final, you hit the right side of
the drawer and you fluke it and you get there
and anyone can win on that night. It's not like that,
like you don't. The old saying is you do not
rise to the occasion. You fall to the level of
your training. And in the big game Sticklar Grand Finals,
the team that wins it is a reflection of how
hard that they have trained in the preseason and the
preseinson they've had.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, two other sports as side. An example of two
legends and two other sports. Mike Tyson always said you
need to train so hard that when you hop into
the ring it feels easy. And Luke Longley, who's a
legend of Australian basketball who won titles with the Chicago Bulls,
he said the Bulls training sessions were harder than the
games because you were training against Michael Jordan and he
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set the standards and Jordan would they took about Jordan
would play like it's an eighty two game season before
the playoffs, so you've got to you know, you think
about you know, where do you find the time to
do your strength training whatnot? They said Jordan would play
a game and then go straight back to the hotel
or back to his house and just work out, do
an hour workout on the weights, like the importance and
(25:14):
Uncle Joey like Andrew, Andrew for all the partying and everything, mate,
no one trained harder at Newcastle. Peace set the standards.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, there's and even when you talk about there, like
how intense the bulls training was given that you're training
against Michael Jordan Melbourne. When we were at Melbourne, it
was a very similar intensity. Like the leaders in the
NRL side would encourage the young guys who were training
opposite them. Don't go easy on us because a lot
of the time sometimes in a NRL culture they'll go
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let them like, let them feel good, let them feel good.
The best sides, they don't encourage their like the younger
player who an't playing a NRL to make them feel good,
let them, you know, get the confidence up. It's train
us like you're almost wanting to take our spot. Try
to put us on show, try to try to outtrain us,
try to make us look shit in front of the
coaches because ultimately it's going to make this side a
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better team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, in the in the mid nineties into the late
nineties in Newcastle, one of the secrets of our success
is we had a red hot We had a tremendous
reserve grade site. A number of those plays in a
gun winning comps at Melbourne Storm Richard Swain, Bret Kamor
Robbie Ross, Rodney Howe, Paul Marquette would sort of go
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between first grade and reserve grade. So you had all
these blokes who were just about who were good enough
to be playing first grade. But it was only because
we had so much depth in the club. And you're right, Cook,
we do a post sessions on a Thursday and maybe
it was full on. You know, it was as fast
and as competitive as what you're going to do on
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the Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Well, I've got stories of boys nearly punching on on
the field. I remember Nico Hines and Cameron Munster nearly
had to punch on when because Nico was obviously trying
to break into the first grade side. He was good enough,
he could have played first grade at any other club,
but he had a training intensity where he was just
going to kill the training every day and try to
force his way into any position. And there were days
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when the n R All Boys would get a bit
pissed off about us putting him on show and Nico
was in the firing line. I feel with that there's
a bit of push and shovel between having money both
two fireheads. But that's kind of what you want. Yeah,
it's what you want for your culture.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I've just got admiration for magic. Yeah, Matt Madge
has had great success. You look back at his time
at the Tigers, he got into ninth a couple of
times and sort of it fell away. But my god,
like the success he's had, the success lately in Origin,
the New Zealand beaten Australia thirty nil. Then he goes
into Origin has success and then of course here we
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go and it's great because I mean we had him
here in this room, yeah, chatting to him and before
he was appointed Broncos coach and he was alluding to
there's a club I'd love to go to and you know,
I want to have success. I'm hungry for club success again.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Years in hindsight, if you haven't listened to that interview.
Go back and have a listened to it, because we
had him on probably I think it was about not
even a month before he then got appointed. It might
have been only a couple of weeks. But it is
very interesting. A lot of the stuff that he says
as a coach then it was after he won the
Origin series, but very interesting. I listened back to it
the other day when I was about to play this prelim.
But you were Madge to go back quite a long time,
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like you've known him since. What when you were helping
out Melbourne with their attack in two thousand and five?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Belly Ake asked, myself and Madge were belly Ake's assistance
with the Country Origin side in two thousand and five
and then BELLI actually the year before that, I went
down and did a couple of sessions with Todd Carney
when he was a young player coming through a camera
when Madge was assistant there, and then he told belly
Ake to get me on board for Country and then
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went to belly Ake and said make get made on
board for Melbourne. So me, myself, Madge and Steve Kearney
we were underneath belly Ach in that era. Two thousand
and six, seven, eight and nine at Oken Storm. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I was to blame.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, that's right. My one hundred bucks a day really
just blew the cap a part. But yeah, we were,
you know. And then he went to South Sydney and
used to bring the South City boys over here. You
were there a few times with them. And so I've
had a long association with Madge and it's a funny story.
Like you know, it's funny to see him and belly
Ache up against each other because they're really close. We're
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in those sides that when he was the assistant, belly
A looked after the discipline and the defense, and Magic
did the attack. They are a great combination. And but
I do have a funny story, can I Matt rasmondould
like to hear? Can I share with your funny story? Absolutely?
So two thousand if you didn't, they lost when they
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lost their Grand final forty nil, right, that was eight
two thousand and eight. So that next off slution what
they do every off sUAS in the Melbourne Storm, belly
will take his assistance away and they'll go like they
might out of Europe see ac Milan or Barcelona Arsenal whatnot.
This certain year they went to America. They had a
look at the Chicago Bears, and they went to Boston
(30:08):
see the New England Patriots, and while there actually the
Red Sox won the World Series first time. Anyway, so
on the way back through they said, mate, we'll stop
off at Colroy at the house around the corner, and
we'll just sit and have a talk about how we
want to attack the next year. So yeah, so Belly
I can Madge come and stayed at the house. Well
that night we said, I said, what do you reckon? Boys?
(30:28):
We go we go and have dinner and have a
few beers, and Belly I said, oh yeah, okay, let's go.
So we're all sitting around having went down to one
of the pubs down here. We're having a meal. Anyway,
Billy I had about four or five beers, and as
Billy A did very disciplined stopped, but me and Magics
kept drinking right, having a great time. And people say, oh,
Image is so up tight and everything. Mate, Magic has
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a good time down So we're drinking, having a bit
and anyway, me Image. By the time we get back
to the house, we pretty much got to shine on
well Hydra and it's a out probably about twelve thirty
of Magic goes a Maddie, how about we going to
the city. And I went, oh, Madge, that's probably a
bad idea. Trish won't leave me number one. But you
know it's it's Tuesday night, okay, So you were convinced
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Madge to go to bed three o'clock in the morning.
Trish goes, oh my god, someone someone broke, someone's broken
in the house and someone walking around the house. And
so we get up and it's Madge. Right, Madge is
dressed in his like going out here and that, and
he goes, oh, yeah, boys, Maddie, we're going to call
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a cab. We're going into the city. And I was like,
fucking Madge three am. So me and Trisha wrestlinghim back
to bed, put him in bed every hour. He just
keeps getting like.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
A baby, like a newborn baby.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So he lets his hair down. But yeah, we had
a long association.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Would you make him sleep in the garage as well?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's that's just for special post for you.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, where do you how do you see this game?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Like Broncos Storm, probably very similar to that. Broncos Penrith
outfit where Broncos I see Broncos as well I see
Melbourne as you know what you're going to get from
Melbourne yep. Very not predictable, but very methodical with what
they're going to do. You know what you're going to face,
what they're going to throw at you, Whereas Broncos are
the polar opposite. I see them as so unpredictable, like
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Melbourne would during this week sort of be looking at
tendencies of individuals, but you don't know exactly what you're
going to get from this Broncos outfit.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You don't and I think Reese Walsh typifies that. You know,
and often times people you know, I don't like the
saying necessarily rocks or diamonds. Well, nineteen nine percent of
the stuff he's been doing the last month has been diamonds, right,
But that's the very nature of the way the Broncos
play and how they can be hitting me is very much,
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very similar to Reece. The Broncos, Yes, have more unpredictability
the Broncos also, But one thing they can do mate,
they can really raise the tempo of a contest, and
a lot of that's got to do with rees. But
some of the blakes who don't get enough credit are
the wingers Josiah Yeah, Marandine Marinath. They have they've been tremendous.
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Those two blokes, they really mate. They're players two and
three have been really good and really helped hass out enormously.
But they can they can raise the tempo of the game.
One thing about the Broncos coops is that they've had
some some key players out for a while. But the
players who returned last week I thought were good. Xavier
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Wilson in particular, I thought was very, very good. He's
going to be a key man. He'll be even better.
Second second outing, I thought Adam Reynolds was renot was rusty.
I thought he was rusty as you would expect him
to be. But that'll give him enormous confidence. That that
that kicked from the sideline. He's good. That might just
sit at the at the front of his scrap book.
That will That was a beauty.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Funny ben ben Hunt and Adam Reynolds the combined age
of seventy This is the oldest ever halves pairing in
a Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah. Well, well, and the other bloke coming off at
fourteen he'll be He'll be better for Ezra, second at Ezra,
and if the tempo is if it's a fast tempo
and Broncos have a period of line share possession, if
Ezra comes onto the field, he and Walsh could be
the blokes that win the game for the Broncos. But
you're right about Bennie Hunt. Benny Hunt is another bloke
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that hasn't been given enough credit. On last week's win,
he did a couple of really clever things with his
kicking game, you know, shaping to go one way and
going the other. Just little things, things that you don't
necessarily notice.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But nearly kick to forty twenty two. I want to
get I want to get our predictions. But before we
go to that, who, let's pick an individual who on
both sides, who do you see is the most important one?
Because I look at Melbourne and I I mean, there's
a lot of storm Spine players that you can pick
the X factor, but I think Jerome Hughes is their
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key man for this week. I know, given everything he's
going through his forearm, but that left edge of the
Broncos were put under a lot of pressure last week.
Alamodi scored a couple of tries on them. I think
that's the edge that Melbourne would want to go at.
They got found out a lot on that side, and
I think Hughes is probably the bloke that's going to
get a lot of the footy to put the pressure
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on them.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Coup. I think the key men and stating the obvious here,
but the men who could tear the Bronco and Broncos
another one is going to be their spine players, because
like we said last week about the Melbourne storm, you
can put a hula hoop over the full spine players
when they're just charging through the middle of the field.
They work as a perfect combination, the four of them,
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and if the Broncos are a little tied and start
to fatigue the first area, you're going to see the
fatigue of the blokes in the middle. And if that
is the case and they start to struggle, then they
will just blow them open. I'm not going to give
my tip for Clove Churchill yet, but there's someone that
I think is as special for it. But those four
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blacks a key you know, Harry of course, with his
leadership and just ability to get out and around the
rucks and vary the go forward is really important. Munster
still is the best big game player in the game,
and last week he was just sensational. Madge will spend
a hell of a lot of time focus focusing on Munster.
(36:30):
But how do you plan for bloke so unorthodox and
who just reacts to visual opportunity?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, I think the only thing you can really do
is and it'll be on both sides because they've both
got players who are unbelievable off the back of quick
play the balls, and that's when they want to get
the footy. Monster is one of them. All Broncos can
do is try to limit how many opportunities they get
off quick play the balls, and that's why with their defense,
we're slowing the ruckdown as much as possible. You're not
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going to get that all the time. You can't control
that for the whole of eighty minutes. But when Munster
does get the footy, the way you stop him is
is just two things that are his biggest strength, his
big left foot step and his fend. Yeah, they're the
two things that the back rowers in the middle will
have to be practicing defensively.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
And coop for the Broncos, Reese is such a vital
blow because if there's one area that I think Belliac
will have real concerns about Melbourne is their left side defense.
Kronella found them out twice. The first time was Katois
called their first try where they all just rushed in
and they caught him out. The second time was there
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was lack of communication and Munster was actually backing off
your hum so I said, come on, guys, what's going
on here? And they put Billy Burns straight through. That's
where they'll go. Madge will go there relentlessly. He will
target Jack Howarth. Yeah, and ka Tony Staggs is on
is on Jack. This is a massive challenge for Jack Howard.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think it's a big game for him.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I think he came Arrogan is a big man coming
in as well. That's a that's a huge gid for
the Broncast.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
They'll have a lot, they'll be doing a lot of
work that left edge definitely, and I think the job
for Melbourne the big their big job. Obviously there's a
lot of threats, but I think it all starts with
paying halfs for them. He gets so much ruxby quick
play the ball. I think you're going to see and
our back fences will be able to have a watch
of this game. Watch the role of Melbourne's markers. Watch
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how hard they work for a marker to push half
sideways and get into his legs. Because that's when you've
got a big, dominant front rower who's quick, you don't
you want to limit his time to wind up and
get into the line. And the way you do that
is you watch their markers just getting out hard and
diving straight into his legs.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, that was the Talmalalo rule in twenty seventeen when
Jason Tamalalo no one could stop his yardage going into
the twenty seventeen Grand Final. Craig come up with the
Tamalolo rule in the fact that first marker get out
quick and just chop at his legs and big man
hate being tackled low in a case where these days
everyone first man's tackle over the ball. People the big
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blokes hate being hit around the legs from side on.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, Well, and people say why didn't you go legs
on him? It's easier said than done because you've got
to wrestle them and slow they played. Well, if you
only tackle legs, it's it's very easy to attack, like
they'll just they'll just get quick play the balls. You'll
be on the back for the whole time. But there
is an art of your markers getting out and get
into the legs almost as they're hitting the line, so
your defenders can sort of just catch them and put
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them straight on their back. So I have no doubt
they'll be doing that. Let's get our predictions and who
wins and who's your back fence player of the match
aka Clive Churchill coop.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I like Melbourne on the back of They've just got
so many players who have played in these type of games,
these really big games, and not just played in them,
but had success in them. One tight games, blown teams away.
They've got many many ways they can win a football game.
But on the on the back coop of again, I
don't want to sound like a breaking record, but the Broncos,
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the big Broncos men in the middle, I do expect
them to start to fade and if they do fade
in the middle, then the Storm spine against is going
to blow them to bits. So I've gone. Now, I've got,
I've gone, I've got Melbourne Storm to win. I'm going
to say Melbourne Storm. I'll say Melbourne Storm by four points,
but it could blow out. I don't know. I'm gonna.
I'm gonna. I'm going to give Brisbane the respect they
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deserve and say Melbourne by four.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
All right, but let's get who wins and your back
fans player of the match. Let's just get that. We
don't need the explanation.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My backs fence player is forward. Who's going to charge?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Back fans player of the match is your Clive church
I said before, do you listen? Do you listen? You
really don't talk to your mother.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I don't listen. I go Melbourne by four and I
go Ryan Pappenhausen as a special for my Clive church women.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
All right, ras Man, you got I am. I'm going
to go for the broncos. I think they've been the
funnest team to watch, to have been terrific, so they
deserve it. And I don't think I think they just
I think they match Melbourne spine. But then they've also
got the X factor on the edges and that's why
I'm going Tony stags for Clive Churchill.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Had a year and he'd be good. It'd be a
good year for him. I've got storm. I think that
nine days and they I think they're going to be
just a little bit fresher than the Broncos after they
have how many big games they're playing in. And then
I've got our man back fans player of the match,
Harry Grant. Shock. What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I said, Shock, because you are you are the rabbit's
foot allegedly. Are you going into camp anyway, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I don't know. I'll I'll have a chat with Craig
and I'll see what he wants. Yeah, you know, he
said he he's got a futon in his room that
they've set up, so he said, I can stay there.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You can. You can borrow ras Men's roller bed. Better
be handed by the way, Rasman, You've got the Craig
Bellamy's his jacket.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, we haven't even acknowledged that.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, same size as belly ache, which is nice. Yeah,
I keep this on. Yeah, it gets cold in the garage.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Obviously, have a better dental plan.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
We have got the suits on, we have got the
blazers on today because when this comes out, it's Daly
m night tonight. So we are going to go through
some of the awards and give our predictions for it.
First of all, starting off with the big one, obviously
the Player of the Year, Dallian.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Player of the Year. Although we're going to do our
personal player of the year, our personal awards, that's right, you.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Can't do it.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I thought, who you thought, what's personal? So I thought
it was going to be the backstage awards, meaning we
each of us decide who has been the best player.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Want Obviously Teddy is going to be dam but you
might think or someone.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That's it's your prediction for player of the year, it's
your player of.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
The Player of the year is paint House Okay, yeah,
it's been remarkable.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Mine's Paint huss To.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So I actually had I had Teddy, I did actually
have James Sesca. I think it's always a dampener when
the Dalliums comes in finals time and you've watched some
of the players in finals and you go and then
you get to the awards and you go, how didn't
they win an award? Then you remember there is twenty
seven other.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Games recently.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
That's it's almost like you'd want them to do Dalliums
almost straight after the season, because then you know there's
not a dampener on some of those players, and.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Teddy's pulled out of the ashes. Yeah, he's brother's best
man brother. People say, oh good on him. You know
it's his brother's wedding. Oh Man family first pooh.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'm with him and I reckon Teddy, but have a
little bit of you know what, you guys have taken
me out of the side, out of the rep sides before.
Screw everyone controversy. I like it, all right, what about
our coach, coach Michael Wig, you've gone Madge.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I was Ricky all you, but look at Madges had
to go through and they got a lot of controversy,
put up a lot of stuff, and he's got them
to good on the Grand Final.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Ricky, Yeah, meant to be, meant to be tip favorites
for the Wooden Spoons.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
So yeah, I had Ricky as well. I think if
finals came like comes into it, I probably go Madge,
given like what what he's turned this side into. But
Ricky's turned aside that probably should have won the Wooden
Spoon on paper and everyone A lot of people were
tipping them to win the Wooden Spood and then get
gets them to first. It's pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm hearing that Ethan strangers on the plane. That's what
let's see, there's twenty three men. There was twenty two
men squad. Peter Landy's come out and said, now there's
going to be twenty three and word is it was
for Ethan strange young player to go away? Yeah for
the Ashes. Sorry, yeah, yeah, he's on.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I was sing, he's on the plane. Where's he young on?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bally?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah? All right, and then let's go through our team
of the year. Then, all right, everyone, who's your fullback?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Tedsco?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
You got Tesco? I had Tedesco as well.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, I was going to go to the ESCO. But
I just thought I Brimson for this. I could have
picked him for CenTra or five marry him. What if I.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Could get Teddy's best man?
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, I reckon they'd be a few Tights players in
there for Rays. Who your wingers Beigame.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Ronaldo Mulatalo and.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Oh yeah, red Hot. I don't even think Ronaldo's nominated.
He might have been ruled out because of suspensions. I
don't know, but I didn't see him on the list.
But I had Xavier Coats and Mark Nowangan need to
I think there's been some red old wingers this year, yew.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I went the same as you cope, pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Senner's car, Tony Staggs and Stephen Crichton I had.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I actually had the exact same. I wanted to put
Herbie in there somewhere. Herbie fine with. I thought he
had a great He's incredible, such a good year in
a side that like probably doesn't have as many stars.
But I just had a couple of injuries.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Mentioned the SEB Chris too. I thought they had great suits.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, he is, and Timson.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
I don't know how you guys are going past Herbie.
I think up until he got injured, he was by
far the best center.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Don't care everyone else's choice, Well I will.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
And then the other one was Tony stags.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, what about your halves, let's say five, eight and
half back five.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was temptation with these Ethan Traine, but I've got
a game Munster. Yeah, it's just he's just made. He's
he's just so good, like he's the standout six. And
I've gone Isaiah Katoa just ahead of Nathan.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, I'm sort of with you. I had Ethan Stranger
as my six and Isaiah Kato as my seven. I
just think monsters. I mean Munster had a great year,
particularly at origin level. I think that was his best
origin he's had in a long time. But Ethan Strangers,
I think his club season was probably a little bit better.
Ras Man.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah. Although I was tempted to pick Kieran four and
Jaden Campbell, I went for Ken Munster and his guitar.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
The front row who's your eight and year ten?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
The two big front rows, Joseph Tarpani and Pain Hass
straightforward from.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Me I had. I had pain Hess and Terrell May
the bum bag man. I thought Terrell May in that tiger,
so I did a good job.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I listened to him and tailor there may day the
other day he listened to it with a good view
of Benji excellent, really good.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We'll I have to get him on RaSE man.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
I went for Pain Hush and you can guess the
other one if you want.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Tina so many your lord, who a fault you are?
Who's your hooker?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
My hooker is Harry Green.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I didn't actually have Harry in my Blake Brayley, but
I was going off to Daly more the Daly em
rules because Harry was rubbed out for unfortunately doing not much.
But anyway, that rule needs to be.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
A mental player.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Harry Harry Hoodie as well. Who's your back rollers?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Because this is a red hot field this one. I've
gone Hudson Young and Ellie kat I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I think they they have been unbelievable, excellent, two blokes
you'd want to date your daughter.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I don't know Ellie, but I'll be happy with Hudson.
I don't know. I never met Ellie.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
I went for Katara as well, but then I went
like a.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Good choice, good choice, probably.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Probably rookie of the year. I imagine he'll be I.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Mean Robert, it's Robert Toyer and him and someone else.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Letker is phenomenal. Yeah, who's your lock, Isaiah?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
See I've gone Aaron Clark. Oh yeah, I thought Aaron
Clark had had a great He did have a great
in a Warrior side that were depleted by people leaving.
They still manage to get in the top eight and
they fought a k but had too many injuries.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I'd love to see him winning in this couple of
years been coming back in. I'd love to see it.
Great for the game of rugby league.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
I agree with you. Coop the dove that the Titans
that go. Now, he's you know, I don't know what
the word is.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He's got the dove and.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Full, he's seen his full potential, He's.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Realized his potential. His potential is blooming cherry blossom.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
What about Personality of the Year. This is more of
a backstage award.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
It was tempted to go Brian, but Walsh got a
sweet mate.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
I'm with you. Any bloke that can drink from a
toilet that he's installed himself sober. Yeah, I am one
hundred percent with it. And he did something else that
got caught in the headlines this year as well. He
did something else other than drinking in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
But he's the.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Puncher, Yeah, he the boxing gloves.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I just loved. One of my favorite moments this year
was with the toilet water and the Broncos pretty in
a statement saying to their fans, listen, don't drink toilet water. Guys,
you probably should give your fans a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Who is yourss?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Hard to go past Reese Walsh. He's just made the
game fun again, I think, and it's good to see
buzz and and all the other journals just hate when
they're talking about him anything.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Right, No, it is. It's nice to see like somebody
who because the game can. We can sometime we have
it in the past. Sometimes really like want characters and
then hate people who become a stereotype. So Reese comes
out and goes, well, I'm just going to be myself,
and then you really divides the camp. Some people go, no,
it's too much. Some people are going, I actually like
(50:00):
that he's an individual. I love to see him just
be himself. Yeah, I love you, drinking toiler who cares
journal of the you know my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I've got bulldogo Ritchie on Tuesday nights, Rasmund when I
sit there and I go, please be Bulldog, Please be
Bulldog and he I go, And we've got the journals in.
We've got my carryanas and Bulloor Ritchie. I go boys,
Doggie time. Yeah, mate, he Gordon Gordon told Gordon tell Us.
He told Doggie, he said, mate, the John's family when
(50:31):
you're on they froth they and mate, you said, Bulldog
was like really and he said, what do they love? And
he said, mate, love you jokes and you know, and
some of your headlines. So he now just plays it
up all the time and says to Gordon, have you
had anything from me? He's some many stuff this year
on Mary Fowler and Nathan. He's obsessed.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
He's obsessed with love. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I see.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I actually had him scratched from my awards, like the
equivalent of players getting scratched for suspension. I scratched Bulldog
for his article he wrote about Joey, which I thought
was in a really great, really bad taste. So he's
eliminated from mine. I went, I actually went Brent Reid,
the Red Man.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
He's a great man.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Read myster Yeah, I mean it's tough between him and Buzz.
Between those two dribblers is very hard. I went, Who's yours?
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Honestly, when when I saw this one, I couldn't even
think of anyone. I'm just in different, I mean different
to all the journals, and they're not like I don't
have an opinion, So I'd just been making something up for.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
The sake, you know what, And that's why we love
you as because you're authentic, just who you're, You're.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Honest to fault.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Yeah, well, guys, that's it. That's it, that's us, that's
that's how Dalama wards that is and it's our last preview.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's sad, it is.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Almost I wanted to end and letting you know too.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
We'll just throw a bone for a fellow podcast as
the Hollow Sport Boys on Sunday they are they're doing
a live podcast at the manly St on Greend final play.
I'm going to go in for about thirty minutes appearance.
So come down there and say, hey, y'all, and.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Someone count how many schooners you consume in thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh mate, if they're free, I will inhale them.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
You'd hope they're free.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
They'd have to be surely surely.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
To get you there, jes they must be free. Free
ocals and a lot of money is the only thing
that usually gets you there.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Where you're going to want or the.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Where you going to watch the game? There are you're
just going to go.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I'm going to come back here and watch the game.
I'm really focused.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I'm out there. You're going to go out of the
game for some stuff, and you know I love watching
it at home. I mean, I'm not complaining of going
out lams in a way. But I've got a bit
of work out there, but it is it is good
atmosphere out there.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Where are you.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
I'm actually going to a Techno Day event from two
until like six, and then we'll leave that and go
to a pub somewhere and then it's that Watson's Bay.
Don't take if anyone sees men don't take drugs? No,
I won't.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Huge young people of Techno Show, I know what happens.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
What's it called RaSE ah sash sash by day, sash
by Day, So everyone keep an eye. If we got
any listeners who were going on to sash by Day,
message the backstage Instagram will put you in touch with.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Who knows, might not even remember the game.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Man, the best team win, Yeah,
What's the matter, daddy, You're not yourself at the moment,
you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit sad.
I tear. What could really pick my mood up?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Could?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'll do anything.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Do you really want to know? Yes, I want people
to hit subscribe, Hit that subscribe button. It's going to
really elevate my spirit.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
If the people respect you as a man and as
a as a medium mogul in Australia, I'm sure they
will do.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It well, I hope. So it takes me back to
my own excellence.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
How good was that that weekend? That was horny rugby league?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Which would that be?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Both games were good, but I mean the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's so this final series has been so frisky.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh this is I think this is as horney as
rugby league has ever been.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's as horny as I describe it as horny as yeah,
and honey is what horney?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just as you know, we just leave it at that
horny goat weed.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Cornyed horney.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
As you remember, what's your favorite horny animal? Not as
in sex drivee as in with a horn I'll go first,
rhino love. I think you rhino is such a justic
beasts in South Africa and being around the presence of
such a beast that at one drop of a hat,
it could kill you if it one or two. But
it chose not to the.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Black rhino and the white rhino because in the white rhina,
it isn't called the white rhino because it's white. It's
called the white rhino because it was a misinterpretation because
it's got a wider jaw.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Supposed to be wide rhino. And then they decided to
white rhino because actually we're going to get the white
rhino on in a few minutes. Christian Welsh, which he's
known as the white Rhino, he gave himself that nickname
the white rhino fun fact for u Rays because white
runners are almost extinct, like they're the most endangered species
of rhino. And he considers the rhino an animal that
(01:43):
is synonymous with the front rowers, and he thought that
the white front rower was being endangered given that he
was surrounded by mainly Polynesian front rowers, so he called
himself the white rhino. Yeah, and then the boys quickly
pivoted and changed that because they thought rhino's quite tough
and they changed his nickname to the Sea Cow. The
(02:04):
okay the jew go.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes as a young since he was inverted commas medically retired.
But we'll ask you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We'll ask you. I'm not sure, but Ras mend good
to have you back in. This is our last preview episode,
so you know where this leaves you. Raise in terms
of rental houses, like whether Dad's going to allow you
to keep staying in the garage. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Men, you can stay in the garage.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Mate, Yeah, I really appreciate it in hard times. So
it's been it's been great.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Being here, mate, Ras.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Listen, our garage doors always open you.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It doesn't block.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Our garage is your garage.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tell you what we did. Me and Ras on the
weekend had a good time. We went down and had
Japanese together because everyone was away and Jesus was good Japanese.
We had sashimi, takoshimi, tark Kintara.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Younestly people, if you're Coolroyd, you must go to Kintaro.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, we're really like specific to our audience. But if
you're ever passing Choloro and it is doesn't take walking,
so you make sure you book go there. But the
sashimi tacos, she's that good.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, unbeaten. I think the only two sort of feeds
that you get at the moment are Alimento's and Kintaro
A couple of.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Doors down people. If you want, if you want ace,
pasta and pizza, go to Alimento's and say gooday to
old Mario forus good.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Man, massive manly fan massive, although loves Gothe but he's
not happy with some of their recruitment and retention.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He's going to be less happy next year.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And then we watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows?
Have you ever seen you ever watched Harry Potter?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Dad, never seen an episode. Not interested to a movie,
but yeah, okay, not interested.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You've got to get give it a chance.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Give it a girl. You went on the roller coaster
in in Diniversal Studios.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
That's something that was good.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, trust me, you won't regret giving it a chance.
Nicol Klokstad.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
A clot star clost sorry star.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A bit of controversy with the Grand Final this week.
None bigger than the two day advantage. You've been a
big advocate on saying how big an advantage? It is
that Melbourne have got playing two days earlier. Watching that
game on Sunday Broncos os Penrith. Where do you sit
with it now.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, Coop, it is an event. It's a significant advantage.
I know Madge has done the right thing. He's come
in and said, no, it's garbage. There's no advantage because
of the fact that he doesn't go back to his
players and go, you know, and give them like they're
under the pump, or give Melbourne any sense that they
have got an advantage. But they have. It's two days,
not just the two days, Cooper, but the nature of
(04:42):
the two games, the way they both sides went through.
Melbourne played a Friday night game against Cronulla in coolish
conditions down there. It was a very stop start game.
The tempo was only moderate and you compare that to
what happened on Sunday, great next speed, hot conditions against
(05:03):
the defending premiers. Fourteen nil down and find a way
to win and the last that last fifteen minutes will
last most of the second half. If you look at
both packs for the Broncos and the Panthers, they were gone,
just out on their feet. You had players actually looking
to the bench to be replaced. It has to be
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, and I think Melbourne would understand. They're going to
I imagine they're going to play to that advantage in
a sense where they're going to try to make the
game as physically hard as they can, knowing that Broncos
watching that game, knowing that Broncos are going to fatigue
a little bit quicker, be a little bit sourer body wise.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
When we go into the preview further, we can talk
about the impact that the fatigue can have and where
Melbourne take advantage of that, but also the X factor.
I want to talk about the Broncos preseason and how
important that has booned from them them coming like basically
doing two miracle recoveries in their last two outings in
(06:01):
the finals, fourteen down, fourteen points down in both games.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We're going to get the jew going on, but we're
going to get him because we want to talk about
the Stefano comments. At the start of this week. Stefano
has come out saying he can't wait to run at
some of the Broncos players because he doesn't like a
few of them. Thinks they're stuck up. I love to
see it because you're seeing a lot of shit talk
in the media and whatnot. But I love seeing it
(06:28):
from a front rower because he's in he's in the
middle of the field, he's in the firing. Like you
see it from the spine players who have jabs at
people and whatnot because they're sort of the creatives. But
to see it from a bloke whose Stefano is very quiet.
He's a quiet, my nature bloke and he's out there
calling out the Broncos pack, I do actually like it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I do like it, and I like the fact I
like the fact that he's gone. But if the Broncos
are presenting themselves as stuck up, I actually like that
as well, because that is the old Broncos DNA back
in the day when you play the Broncos during their
golden ear, Alfhie and Kevy and that even the blokes
who carried the water, even Bunny Paul Bunn, who's the
recruitment manager now at Melbourne when he was the recruitment
(07:07):
guy at Brisbane. Who the fuck is that bloke and
why does he think he's better than normal?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And I will say that he is a part of
the the Broncos DNA, Like you said, because you go
up to Brisbane, they are lords up there. You walk
around Brisbane City, they've got posters up with the Broncos boys.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Even they come on.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Last they think they think the whole of Australia has
posters up of them. Sometimes even though you go you
go to Melbourne, they don't even know who the Broncos are,
but there is they do have that swagger about him.
You go up to Brisbane, you play for the Broncos
like you are a rock star and that set that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And whenever they're winning comps, that's how they present themselves.
That's part of their DNA.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
The fin has probably got the hardest job on the weekend.
You know Pain half so like do anything you can
to get in the guy's head and truck win And.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, Rasman, I'm not sure if he was talking
about pain, but one thing I can guarantee is Michael
Maguire will convince Pain that he was.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I think we've got him on the line here,
not Stefano, but we do have another in his mental
one of his enforcing front rows, Christian Welch.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
How are you buddy, guys?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Great to be on. I love hearing people talking about
front rollers.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Let's get going, mate.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We love players on minimum pay.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, Welchie as a as a former hard man of
the Melbourne Storm had it was. We're in the middle
of talking about Stefano's comments going after the Bronx boys.
Did you love it as much as I did?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I loved it. I couldn't get enough of it. But yeah,
he's going to be up against it because his past. Yes,
he is eighty minutes straight. He's ny for all of it.
And there's the reason why the white front roller is
our days, the numbered our feet, dwindling looks because the
boys he's specific onland, Oh my life, so just so
big and powerful. And then he's got the combination of everything.
(08:56):
He's got the power and the endurance. So it's going
to be one hell of a bad all. But yeah,
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, you're right. Well, she like the emergence of the
Pacific gold on front rowers, the fact that they've got
amazing endurance even though they're about one hundred and twenty
kilos plus, they've got great footwork and mobility. And I
look the other day, well she and I was thinking, right,
who are the best middle forwards of all time, and
I go, well, you know the ones that I've seen,
I mean, Arthur Beats. I never got to see Arthur much,
(09:24):
you know, very very little as far as life football.
But you go Glenn Lazarus and then I'll go, right, okay, Talmalola,
Adam f Nol, Blake Painhass and well she of course,
but you know what I mean, Like it's at the
moment we are in like in the midst of the
greatest era of middle forwards.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Absolutely, and for my career it has to be hard
Graves and Vomits. Yeah, the ten years they were by
far the most dominant front rowers. And yeah, it's it's
really amazing. And I think he used for some of
those you know Toma, Like that's all those teams. They're
just a half away from some real international success. They've
always had a board pack just going to give it
(10:07):
a craft of the Well.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm telling you now, I sat with it with Isaiah
Kattowa two weeks ago when he was on our Sunday
Night show. We watched the Dogs Panthers game. He's twenty
one years of age. Well, she, he is the smartest
footballer I have ever spoken to as far as tactics
and everything. Mate, he was. He just he blew me
away smart. I know, I know, I knew how I
(10:31):
was sitting there Contemplamee said, do I say this out?
But and I immediately went to the blokes at Fox
Sports and just said, mate, you've got to sign this kid.
So they put him on last Friday night on the
panel Isaiahatawa and he's sitting there with Cooper Krank, Kiaran
Forren and braithan Asta and mate, he was. He was unbelievable,
(10:52):
Like talking to they bought. They were shocked at how
good he was. He will is my prediction, Isaiah Cattell
will be the best player of all time when he finishes.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You say this, You say this every week on the
It's a big call, but he says every week.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He will be. He will be the best player of
all time.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Welchy, mate, you're you're up. You're up in Sydney at
the moment. Aren't you coming up to cash in on
you know, your former club being in the Grand Final?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
What's on?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
What's on for the week for you?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh? Just just spreading the sweet sweet word of rugby league,
That's all I'm doing. Yeah, you know, old brother wels
down in the you know a fl heartland. I'm just
trying to grow our beautiful game and help us grow
down here. Why not? But yeah, give the mighty time
might have might have helped us get a few catches.
I'm unemployed in a month as well, fellas you know, yeah, yeah,
(11:42):
if you know anyone?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, well, why don't you sell yourself now because we've
got We've got a lot of people listening to this
when it comes out in the morning. You have a mower,
any any brand, any brands, mate, you want to work
with or just anyone that you want to sell yourself
to it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, I'm just struggling a bit. I'll really happening to
get on a top tier podcast, maybe Kenty or Buzzers,
But I don't know if you've got the I don't
know if you've got the audience started, and I.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Should follow you, son of a bit.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'll tell you what was talking about growing the game
in Melbourne? What about was it your jersey flegg? Yeah yeah,
mate won the Grand Final and full of full of
local products. It just shows you the growth of the
game down there due to.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The storm man, I reckon the storm had had a
good look at Penrith and just look at that that
nursery they've got there. And obviously how you know, you
can replane talent pretty cheap by just developing them in
your backyard, you know. And obviously you've got to do
a good job at taking these fifteen sixteen year old
to Tournam into first graded. But that's what Penouthine's so
good at. Obviously I've lost so much guy, so many
guys over the years, but they've brought them through. You
(12:44):
love guys like Lindsay Smiths and you know, a whole
bunch of them. Now. I think the storm a going, hey,
look this model of bringing Queensland and this Welshman down
it works. But if we can get them on our
doorstep and start producing, and particularly the huge specifica community
down there, you know, they're they're not built for AFL
fields either, so they're right for the taking. So we
just got to put a bit more resources in, a
(13:05):
bit more coaching and development at an earlier age and
you will start to see the fruits. I think, because
it is it's probably not good enough to be fair.
I think we've got five or six victween and I
think we're twenty six years old. So there's a long
way to go. But I think Frank Pnie's he's really
enjoying us trying to build that out and then having
Anol's Cup stand alone team next year. That's not cheap
(13:25):
to do, so the club obviously facing a big emphasis on.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That'll come under the salary cat you reckon well chi.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I think having on top of them out and
there you don't get the downy and the discussion the
other day by how many clubs are then caught cheating
the cap right ever since? But no one like everyone
hates the storm for cheating the cap. I only's been
five or six, right, but no.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You're breaking out and you're breaking up. Well, this is
a wind free zone. I'll tell you what in that
Jersey Fleet. So I've got a half back, special half
back through a whit more about him later on. Well,
we were just on the ground final. We were just
talking there about the two days extra recovery and it
(14:10):
has to be affected not just the two days well
she but the nature of both both games. I mean
the Broncos played that game on the Sunday, steaming hot conditions,
break neck speed. It's it's got to be a factor.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think I understanding there's just the violence and the
physicality of that game. It definitely was I think up
from Friday Night's prelim. So I think the Storm, you know,
they'll be liking, they'll be well rested, but they need
to go to that level of the penwith Bronx games.
I think that prelim probably was to step up, and
I don't know, the Storm's been just drawn enough this year.
I think they're obviously so well coached and they've got
(14:49):
enough talent, but I just don't think they really clicked
as of yet. But you know they're gonna be arrested,
but they need to step it up because it's you know,
the Bronx come out like that not I think the
only difference between Bronx Penrith was the week off. You
could just see Penrith weather that storm early and then
at last fifteen you could tell, I just reckon that
extra game. You know, in the lakes they just lost
(15:10):
a bit of pop and then you know, all game
the Bronx were catching you know, five ten meters out
and then they started living in that field position battle.
But yeah, I think it's going to one hell of
a game.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Well chie before we let you go? Can we get
you know, old boy, your former captain of the club
medically retired this year. You're in your first You're going
to be doing the retirement lap on Grand Final night?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah? No doing please?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, you're sure you'll be fine. But what's your predictions
for the game? Hit us with it?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Predictions? I don't know. We had storm low scoring and uh,
they're going to probably go after Whiles trying to put
him into the phone box, put him under pressure and
try and fall some areas out of him. But stease,
he wasn't making so many areas on Sunday. But let's
go Jerome Hughes Clive, you know, with the web Ke
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sending off ruck forward scoring tries, I think he'll be
our best on.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well that not enoughing has been made of Jerome like Webke.
It's gone down in Broncos folklore playing the Grand Finals
the broken I've we had five weeks. That was five
weeks after break any for arm and amazing achievement. Jerome
was twenty two days.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, I mean if you win. I imagine if he
wins this weekend, they'll make a big deal out of it.
But nonetheless, he's a tough man for a bloke who
doesn't train or isn't really tough away from the football.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But I think he's already pulled out a quie. I
think he's going to get a shoulder off as well,
so I think he's banged up the old boy. But yeah,
what a what a great player and a great story.
You think that he played one game, that one game
of the Titans and got ressold from both of them
and now he is a dali m Premiership player and
trying to win his second one.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Pretty pretty impressive, certainly, is Christian, mate, We've we've given
We've given you too much airtime made.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Good luck on your by the way, coming on.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Trisha is and on. We've got the ras man here.
If you want to say, how to raise How are
you mate?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're doing well?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Con sense to love this geez there.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The friction is amazing. Oh what a piece of ship.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
He is at least bagging.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It reminded me of the time. Remember when we went
down to Melbourne and we watched a game at the
g It was the Swans verse Richmond whatever team. We've
been on the drink all day and we went back
to I think it was Nico's or something. Christian was
there one of our mates, Jackie p. He was so
drunk and he had he's not a big Footy fans.
He had no idea who Christian Welsh was. He's calling
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him Chrissy Hemsworth all day and then and then by
the end of it he was offering Christian a place
to stay in our airbnb if you need waste, I'm
the captain of Captain of Queen.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then yeah, he goes, mate, we've got to spare catch
if I think he thought he was like like just
like just a hanger on or like homeless mate of everyone,
and he was if you want to play, well, she
gets the Chris Hemsworth look alike all the time?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Does he really all the time?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Gets it?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Gets it?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But then the boys sort of caught onto it, and
then whenever because girls would sometimes say to him, you
look at Chris Hansworth and he if a girl when
he was single, obviously, if a girl in a club said, oh,
you look like Chris Hamsworth, he would walk her over
to the table where all the boys were and say
can you repeat that. Oh he's a funny man. All right,
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let's get into the Grand Final preview. The team lists.
First of all, Melbourne completely unchanged, as we suspected, nothing
really going on there, but Broncos Paddy Carrigan bigin comes
into Locke and they've dropped Tyson Smoothie to the bench
and Ben Talty comes out of the side. Who taults was?
He's been playing really well for them. He has sliding
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a lot of people won't know this Ben Talty. He
was a new Castle with Jack mate with Jack, but
he actually did the preseason at the Storm this year.
He so he did the preseason at the Storm and
then played reserve grade for the North Sydney Bears. Bronco
signed him out of that reserve Gode side. So well,
I mean if he was he's going to be eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Imagine if he was on the bench and you're playing
a Grand Final against the team you just did a
preseason with great story, it would have been a great story. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Pat Carrigan's a begin huge if Broncos would have win,
He's a pretty good bet for Club Churchill medal because
they're going to need a big game for him because,
as we said before, they're up against it. After that
game against Penrith on Sunday. But he's fresh. He's had
two weeks off, but he's the fresh set of legs
and fresh lungs and yeah, and he's going to need
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a big game, has needs him. Hass has carried the
load of that side for quite a while, and last
week Hass was monumental.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, A lot of people probably don't realize how busted
Pain is actually playing. He doesn't really show it, but
he's been injured majority of the year, and he hasn't
missed as many games as he probably should have with
like some knee stuff that he's had through Origin, and
he hasn't done a whole heap of training on the field.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Cop I heard out of the Origin period there was
talk that he he was getting an epidural in his
back of sorts to play a tough mate.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
He's a bloody tough man.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Let's talk about what about the the X factor, because
I know You've got quite a lot to say on
your X factor for this game.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And it relates to the two days off and how
hard it's going to be for yeah, well not how
hard it's going to be for the Broncos, just how
significant a factor it is the way the Melbourne Storm play.
This is going to be the ultimate test of physical
and mental toughness from the Broncos. But I can tell you,
I'll tell you what and the X factor is the blood,
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sweat and spew buckets that that michaelm maguire produced at
the start of the year. Now he got hammered because
it right and the people apparently, you know, the the
NRL investigator when it came out RLPA had a look
at it. People were saying, you know that Madge's training
methods were Dryconian. They were saying his players were off him,
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all that sort of stuff. Well, let's just go back.
I want to tell you a story about a little
story about the history of the Broncos which lends itself
to you know, the price you have to pay to
have success. Now, the end of season nineteen ninety one,
the Bronco still hadn't won a title. And so what
Wayne Bennett did. Wayne Bennett stole the strength and condition
from the Camper Raiders. The philical Calvin Giles, Now Kelvin
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Giles was like he was, his background was he was
a physical conditioner for the Great Britain Athletics side. So
you picked up by the Raiders. They went back to
back and Wayne and Wayne obviously that made we need
a bit of still. So he got him in all
he said, and he was the mark. The way Giles
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trained rugby league sides revolution was the way that we
prepare footballers. He had known. It was about made physical
condition with an onus on power training, turning rugby league
players from being basically like middle distance runners into pure
power athletes. Right, but of course you need the cardio
of ascular side as well, that hard cardio training, mate.
(22:19):
The only message the way he said to Wayne Bennett,
what do you want me to do? All Wayne said
to him it was get some steel into this team mate.
The Broncos players and the Raiders' players before that talk
about him. They said it was terrifying. They said, mate.
The training sessions, mate, every time you train, got you
out in the field and started doing conditioning. Everyone was
physically sick, he said. Not only that, he said, it
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was Laurie Daily said, Kelvin Giles is the only man
who made me physically sick in the gym. He trained
them that hard and made like I'm talking mate, Kelvin
was merciless and he pushed the players, you know, beyond
what they thought was their mental and physical capability. But
guess what they went back to back in ninety two
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ninety three, And that's that's what it is. For success,
you need to pay a price. And so for Madge,
Madge handing those spew buckets on day one to the
Broncos players was sending a message, this is what we're
going to be about. I'm going to put some steel
into you blokes. If you want to have success, you've
got to pay the price. So for the Broncos getting
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to this Grand Final, right, for the Broncos to have this,
the two remarkable comebacks fourteen nil down against two quality
sides against the Raiders, no less, and then the defended premiers,
the Broncos Mate. The secret of that of their success
in winning those games sat at the bottom of that
spew bucket way back in November, right, that's where it began.
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That was the genesis of the success that the Broncos haven't.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And you don't. I don't think there's ever been a
team that would have won an NFL com who didn't
train there have an amazing preseason. That's right, well, exactly
the second Melbourne. The secret of Panrith Roosters when they
went back to back, like those teams trained incredibly hard
and a lot of people say, oh, you know, you
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get to the final, you hit the right side of
the drawer and you fluke it and you get there
and anyone can win on that night. It's not like that,
like you don't. The old saying is you do not
rise to the occasion. You fall to the level of
your training. And in the big game Sticklar Grand Finals,
the team that wins it is a reflection of how
hard that they have trained in the preseason and the
preseinson they've had.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, two other sports as side. An example of two
legends and two other sports. Mike Tyson always said you
need to train so hard that when you hop into
the ring it feels easy. And Luke Longley, who's a
legend of Australian basketball who won titles with the Chicago Bulls,
he said the Bulls training sessions were harder than the
games because you were training against Michael Jordan and he
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set the standards and Jordan would they took about Jordan
would play like it's an eighty two game season before
the playoffs, so you've got to you know, you think
about you know, where do you find the time to
do your strength training whatnot? They said Jordan would play
a game and then go straight back to the hotel
or back to his house and just work out, do
an hour workout on the weights, like the importance and
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Uncle Joey like Andrew, Andrew for all the partying and everything, mate,
no one trained harder at Newcastle. Peace set the standards.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, there's and even when you talk about there, like
how intense the bulls training was given that you're training
against Michael Jordan Melbourne. When we were at Melbourne, it
was a very similar intensity. Like the leaders in the
NRL side would encourage the young guys who were training
opposite them. Don't go easy on us because a lot
of the time sometimes in a NRL culture they'll go
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let them like, let them feel good, let them feel good.
The best sides, they don't encourage their like the younger
player who an't playing a NRL to make them feel good,
let them, you know, get the confidence up. It's train
us like you're almost wanting to take our spot. Try
to put us on show, try to try to outtrain us,
try to make us look shit in front of the
coaches because ultimately it's going to make this side a
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better team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, in the in the mid nineties into the late
nineties in Newcastle, one of the secrets of our success
is we had a red hot We had a tremendous
reserve grade site. A number of those plays in a
gun winning comps at Melbourne Storm Richard Swain, Bret Kamor
Robbie Ross, Rodney Howe, Paul Marquette would sort of go
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between first grade and reserve grade. So you had all
these blokes who were just about who were good enough
to be playing first grade. But it was only because
we had so much depth in the club. And you're right, Cook,
we do a post sessions on a Thursday and maybe
it was full on. You know, it was as fast
and as competitive as what you're going to do on
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the Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Well, I've got stories of boys nearly punching on on
the field. I remember Nico Hines and Cameron Munster nearly
had to punch on when because Nico was obviously trying
to break into the first grade side. He was good enough,
he could have played first grade at any other club,
but he had a training intensity where he was just
going to kill the training every day and try to
force his way into any position. And there were days
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when the n R All Boys would get a bit
pissed off about us putting him on show and Nico
was in the firing line. I feel with that there's
a bit of push and shovel between having money both
two fireheads. But that's kind of what you want. Yeah,
it's what you want for your culture.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I've just got admiration for magic. Yeah, Matt Madge
has had great success. You look back at his time
at the Tigers, he got into ninth a couple of
times and sort of it fell away. But my god,
like the success he's had, the success lately in Origin,
the New Zealand beaten Australia thirty nil. Then he goes
into Origin has success and then of course here we
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go and it's great because I mean we had him
here in this room, yeah, chatting to him and before
he was appointed Broncos coach and he was alluding to
there's a club I'd love to go to and you know,
I want to have success. I'm hungry for club success again.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Years in hindsight, if you haven't listened to that interview.
Go back and have a listened to it, because we
had him on probably I think it was about not
even a month before he then got appointed. It might
have been only a couple of weeks. But it is
very interesting. A lot of the stuff that he says
as a coach then it was after he won the
Origin series, but very interesting. I listened back to it
the other day when I was about to play this prelim.
But you were Madge to go back quite a long time,
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like you've known him since. What when you were helping
out Melbourne with their attack in two thousand and five?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Belly Ake asked, myself and Madge were belly Ake's assistance
with the Country Origin side in two thousand and five
and then BELLI actually the year before that, I went
down and did a couple of sessions with Todd Carney
when he was a young player coming through a camera
when Madge was assistant there, and then he told belly
Ake to get me on board for Country and then
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went to belly Ake and said make get made on
board for Melbourne. So me, myself, Madge and Steve Kearney
we were underneath belly Ach in that era. Two thousand
and six, seven, eight and nine at Oken Storm. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I was to blame.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, that's right. My one hundred bucks a day really
just blew the cap a part. But yeah, we were,
you know. And then he went to South Sydney and
used to bring the South City boys over here. You
were there a few times with them. And so I've
had a long association with Madge and it's a funny story.
Like you know, it's funny to see him and belly
Ache up against each other because they're really close. We're
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in those sides that when he was the assistant, belly
A looked after the discipline and the defense, and Magic
did the attack. They are a great combination. And but
I do have a funny story, can I Matt rasmondould
like to hear? Can I share with your funny story? Absolutely?
So two thousand if you didn't, they lost when they
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lost their Grand final forty nil, right, that was eight
two thousand and eight. So that next off slution what
they do every off sUAS in the Melbourne Storm, belly
will take his assistance away and they'll go like they
might out of Europe see ac Milan or Barcelona Arsenal whatnot.
This certain year they went to America. They had a
look at the Chicago Bears, and they went to Boston
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see the New England Patriots, and while there actually the
Red Sox won the World Series first time. Anyway, so
on the way back through they said, mate, we'll stop
off at Colroy at the house around the corner, and
we'll just sit and have a talk about how we
want to attack the next year. So yeah, so Belly
I can Madge come and stayed at the house. Well
that night we said, I said, what do you reckon? Boys?
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We go we go and have dinner and have a
few beers, and Belly I said, oh yeah, okay, let's go.
So we're all sitting around having went down to one
of the pubs down here. We're having a meal. Anyway,
Billy I had about four or five beers, and as
Billy A did very disciplined stopped, but me and Magics
kept drinking right, having a great time. And people say, oh,
Image is so up tight and everything. Mate, Magic has
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a good time down So we're drinking, having a bit
and anyway, me Image. By the time we get back
to the house, we pretty much got to shine on
well Hydra and it's a out probably about twelve thirty
of Magic goes a Maddie, how about we going to
the city. And I went, oh, Madge, that's probably a
bad idea. Trish won't leave me number one. But you
know it's it's Tuesday night, okay, So you were convinced
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Madge to go to bed three o'clock in the morning.
Trish goes, oh my god, someone someone broke, someone's broken
in the house and someone walking around the house. And
so we get up and it's Madge. Right, Madge is
dressed in his like going out here and that, and
he goes, oh, yeah, boys, Maddie, we're going to call
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a cab. We're going into the city. And I was like,
fucking Madge three am. So me and Trisha wrestlinghim back
to bed, put him in bed every hour. He just
keeps getting like.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
A baby, like a newborn baby.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So he lets his hair down. But yeah, we had
a long association.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Would you make him sleep in the garage as well?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's that's just for special post for you.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, where do you how do you see this game?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Like Broncos Storm, probably very similar to that. Broncos Penrith
outfit where Broncos I see Broncos as well I see
Melbourne as you know what you're going to get from
Melbourne yep. Very not predictable, but very methodical with what
they're going to do. You know what you're going to face,
what they're going to throw at you, Whereas Broncos are
the polar opposite. I see them as so unpredictable, like
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Melbourne would during this week sort of be looking at
tendencies of individuals, but you don't know exactly what you're
going to get from this Broncos outfit.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You don't and I think Reese Walsh typifies that. You know,
and often times people you know, I don't like the
saying necessarily rocks or diamonds. Well, nineteen nine percent of
the stuff he's been doing the last month has been diamonds, right,
But that's the very nature of the way the Broncos
play and how they can be hitting me is very much,
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very similar to Reece. The Broncos, Yes, have more unpredictability
the Broncos also, But one thing they can do mate,
they can really raise the tempo of a contest, and
a lot of that's got to do with rees. But
some of the blakes who don't get enough credit are
the wingers Josiah Yeah, Marandine Marinath. They have they've been tremendous.
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Those two blokes, they really mate. They're players two and
three have been really good and really helped hass out enormously.
But they can they can raise the tempo of the game.
One thing about the Broncos coops is that they've had
some some key players out for a while. But the
players who returned last week I thought were good. Xavier
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Wilson in particular, I thought was very, very good. He's
going to be a key man. He'll be even better.
Second second outing, I thought Adam Reynolds was renot was rusty.
I thought he was rusty as you would expect him
to be. But that'll give him enormous confidence. That that
that kicked from the sideline. He's good. That might just
sit at the at the front of his scrap book.
That will That was a beauty.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Funny ben ben Hunt and Adam Reynolds the combined age
of seventy This is the oldest ever halves pairing in
a Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah. Well, well, and the other bloke coming off at
fourteen he'll be He'll be better for Ezra, second at Ezra,
and if the tempo is if it's a fast tempo
and Broncos have a period of line share possession, if
Ezra comes onto the field, he and Walsh could be
the blokes that win the game for the Broncos. But
you're right about Bennie Hunt. Benny Hunt is another bloke
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that hasn't been given enough credit. On last week's win,
he did a couple of really clever things with his
kicking game, you know, shaping to go one way and
going the other. Just little things, things that you don't
necessarily notice.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But nearly kick to forty twenty two. I want to
get I want to get our predictions. But before we
go to that, who, let's pick an individual who on
both sides, who do you see is the most important one?
Because I look at Melbourne and I I mean, there's
a lot of storm Spine players that you can pick
the X factor, but I think Jerome Hughes is their
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key man for this week. I know, given everything he's
going through his forearm, but that left edge of the
Broncos were put under a lot of pressure last week.
Alamodi scored a couple of tries on them. I think
that's the edge that Melbourne would want to go at.
They got found out a lot on that side, and
I think Hughes is probably the bloke that's going to
get a lot of the footy to put the pressure
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on them.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Coup. I think the key men and stating the obvious here,
but the men who could tear the Bronco and Broncos
another one is going to be their spine players, because
like we said last week about the Melbourne storm, you
can put a hula hoop over the full spine players
when they're just charging through the middle of the field.
They work as a perfect combination, the four of them,
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and if the Broncos are a little tied and start
to fatigue the first area, you're going to see the
fatigue of the blokes in the middle. And if that
is the case and they start to struggle, then they
will just blow them open. I'm not going to give
my tip for Clove Churchill yet, but there's someone that
I think is as special for it. But those four
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blacks a key you know, Harry of course, with his
leadership and just ability to get out and around the
rucks and vary the go forward is really important. Munster
still is the best big game player in the game,
and last week he was just sensational. Madge will spend
a hell of a lot of time focus focusing on Munster.
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But how do you plan for bloke so unorthodox and
who just reacts to visual opportunity?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, I think the only thing you can really do
is and it'll be on both sides because they've both
got players who are unbelievable off the back of quick
play the balls, and that's when they want to get
the footy. Monster is one of them. All Broncos can
do is try to limit how many opportunities they get
off quick play the balls, and that's why with their defense,
we're slowing the ruckdown as much as possible. You're not
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going to get that all the time. You can't control
that for the whole of eighty minutes. But when Munster
does get the footy, the way you stop him is
is just two things that are his biggest strength, his
big left foot step and his fend. Yeah, they're the
two things that the back rowers in the middle will
have to be practicing defensively.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
And coop for the Broncos, Reese is such a vital
blow because if there's one area that I think Belliac
will have real concerns about Melbourne is their left side defense.
Kronella found them out twice. The first time was Katois
called their first try where they all just rushed in
and they caught him out. The second time was there
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was lack of communication and Munster was actually backing off
your hum so I said, come on, guys, what's going
on here? And they put Billy Burns straight through. That's
where they'll go. Madge will go there relentlessly. He will
target Jack Howarth. Yeah, and ka Tony Staggs is on
is on Jack. This is a massive challenge for Jack Howard.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think it's a big game for him.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I think he came Arrogan is a big man coming
in as well. That's a that's a huge gid for
the Broncast.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
They'll have a lot, they'll be doing a lot of
work that left edge definitely, and I think the job
for Melbourne the big their big job. Obviously there's a
lot of threats, but I think it all starts with
paying halfs for them. He gets so much ruxby quick
play the ball. I think you're going to see and
our back fences will be able to have a watch
of this game. Watch the role of Melbourne's markers. Watch
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how hard they work for a marker to push half
sideways and get into his legs. Because that's when you've
got a big, dominant front rower who's quick, you don't
you want to limit his time to wind up and
get into the line. And the way you do that
is you watch their markers just getting out hard and
diving straight into his legs.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, that was the Talmalalo rule in twenty seventeen when
Jason Tamalalo no one could stop his yardage going into
the twenty seventeen Grand Final. Craig come up with the
Tamalolo rule in the fact that first marker get out
quick and just chop at his legs and big man
hate being tackled low in a case where these days
everyone first man's tackle over the ball. People the big
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blokes hate being hit around the legs from side on.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, Well, and people say why didn't you go legs
on him? It's easier said than done because you've got
to wrestle them and slow they played. Well, if you
only tackle legs, it's it's very easy to attack, like
they'll just they'll just get quick play the balls. You'll
be on the back for the whole time. But there
is an art of your markers getting out and get
into the legs almost as they're hitting the line, so
your defenders can sort of just catch them and put
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them straight on their back. So I have no doubt
they'll be doing that. Let's get our predictions and who
wins and who's your back fence player of the match
aka Clive Churchill coop.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I like Melbourne on the back of They've just got
so many players who have played in these type of games,
these really big games, and not just played in them,
but had success in them. One tight games, blown teams away.
They've got many many ways they can win a football game.
But on the on the back coop of again, I
don't want to sound like a breaking record, but the Broncos,
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the big Broncos men in the middle, I do expect
them to start to fade and if they do fade
in the middle, then the Storm spine against is going
to blow them to bits. So I've gone. Now, I've got,
I've gone, I've got Melbourne Storm to win. I'm going
to say Melbourne Storm. I'll say Melbourne Storm by four points,
but it could blow out. I don't know. I'm gonna.
I'm gonna. I'm going to give Brisbane the respect they
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deserve and say Melbourne by four.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
All right, but let's get who wins and your back
fans player of the match. Let's just get that. We
don't need the explanation.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My backs fence player is forward. Who's going to charge?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Back fans player of the match is your Clive church
I said before, do you listen? Do you listen? You
really don't talk to your mother.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I don't listen. I go Melbourne by four and I
go Ryan Pappenhausen as a special for my Clive church women.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
All right, ras Man, you got I am. I'm going
to go for the broncos. I think they've been the
funnest team to watch, to have been terrific, so they
deserve it. And I don't think I think they just
I think they match Melbourne spine. But then they've also
got the X factor on the edges and that's why
I'm going Tony stags for Clive Churchill.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Had a year and he'd be good. It'd be a
good year for him. I've got storm. I think that
nine days and they I think they're going to be
just a little bit fresher than the Broncos after they
have how many big games they're playing in. And then
I've got our man back fans player of the match,
Harry Grant. Shock. What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I said, Shock, because you are you are the rabbit's
foot allegedly. Are you going into camp anyway, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
I don't know. I'll I'll have a chat with Craig
and I'll see what he wants. Yeah, you know, he
said he he's got a futon in his room that
they've set up, so he said, I can stay there.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You can. You can borrow ras Men's roller bed. Better
be handed by the way, Rasman, You've got the Craig
Bellamy's his jacket.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, we haven't even acknowledged that.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, same size as belly ache, which is nice. Yeah,
I keep this on. Yeah, it gets cold in the garage.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Obviously, have a better dental plan.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
We have got the suits on, we have got the
blazers on today because when this comes out, it's Daly
m night tonight. So we are going to go through
some of the awards and give our predictions for it.
First of all, starting off with the big one, obviously
the Player of the Year, Dallian.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Player of the Year. Although we're going to do our
personal player of the year, our personal awards, that's right, you.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Can't do it.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I thought, who you thought, what's personal? So I thought
it was going to be the backstage awards, meaning we
each of us decide who has been the best player.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Want Obviously Teddy is going to be dam but you
might think or someone.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That's it's your prediction for player of the year, it's
your player of.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
The Player of the year is paint House Okay, yeah,
it's been remarkable.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Mine's Paint huss To.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So I actually had I had Teddy, I did actually
have James Sesca. I think it's always a dampener when
the Dalliums comes in finals time and you've watched some
of the players in finals and you go and then
you get to the awards and you go, how didn't
they win an award? Then you remember there is twenty
seven other.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Games recently.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
That's it's almost like you'd want them to do Dalliums
almost straight after the season, because then you know there's
not a dampener on some of those players, and.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Teddy's pulled out of the ashes. Yeah, he's brother's best
man brother. People say, oh good on him. You know
it's his brother's wedding. Oh Man family first pooh.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'm with him and I reckon Teddy, but have a
little bit of you know what, you guys have taken
me out of the side, out of the rep sides before.
Screw everyone controversy. I like it, all right, what about
our coach, coach Michael Wig, you've gone Madge.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I was Ricky all you, but look at Madges had
to go through and they got a lot of controversy,
put up a lot of stuff, and he's got them
to good on the Grand Final.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Ricky, Yeah, meant to be, meant to be tip favorites
for the Wooden Spoons.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
So yeah, I had Ricky as well. I think if
finals came like comes into it, I probably go Madge,
given like what what he's turned this side into. But
Ricky's turned aside that probably should have won the Wooden
Spoon on paper and everyone A lot of people were
tipping them to win the Wooden Spood and then get
gets them to first. It's pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm hearing that Ethan strangers on the plane. That's what
let's see, there's twenty three men. There was twenty two
men squad. Peter Landy's come out and said, now there's
going to be twenty three and word is it was
for Ethan strange young player to go away? Yeah for
the Ashes. Sorry, yeah, yeah, he's on.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I was sing, he's on the plane. Where's he young on?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bally?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah? All right, and then let's go through our team
of the year. Then, all right, everyone, who's your fullback?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Tedsco?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
You got Tesco? I had Tedesco as well.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, I was going to go to the ESCO. But
I just thought I Brimson for this. I could have
picked him for CenTra or five marry him. What if I.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Could get Teddy's best man?
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, I reckon they'd be a few Tights players in
there for Rays. Who your wingers Beigame.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Ronaldo Mulatalo and.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Oh yeah, red Hot. I don't even think Ronaldo's nominated.
He might have been ruled out because of suspensions. I
don't know, but I didn't see him on the list.
But I had Xavier Coats and Mark Nowangan need to
I think there's been some red old wingers this year, yew.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I went the same as you cope, pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Senner's car, Tony Staggs and Stephen Crichton I had.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I actually had the exact same. I wanted to put
Herbie in there somewhere. Herbie fine with. I thought he
had a great He's incredible, such a good year in
a side that like probably doesn't have as many stars.
But I just had a couple of injuries.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Mentioned the SEB Chris too. I thought they had great suits.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, he is, and Timson.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
I don't know how you guys are going past Herbie.
I think up until he got injured, he was by
far the best center.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Don't care everyone else's choice, Well I will.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
And then the other one was Tony stags.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, what about your halves, let's say five, eight and
half back five.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was temptation with these Ethan Traine, but I've got
a game Munster. Yeah, it's just he's just made. He's
he's just so good, like he's the standout six. And
I've gone Isaiah Katoa just ahead of Nathan.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, I'm sort of with you. I had Ethan Stranger
as my six and Isaiah Kato as my seven. I
just think monsters. I mean Munster had a great year,
particularly at origin level. I think that was his best
origin he's had in a long time. But Ethan Strangers,
I think his club season was probably a little bit better.
Ras Man.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah. Although I was tempted to pick Kieran four and
Jaden Campbell, I went for Ken Munster and his guitar.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
The front row who's your eight and year ten?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
The two big front rows, Joseph Tarpani and Pain Hass
straightforward from.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Me I had. I had pain Hess and Terrell May
the bum bag man. I thought Terrell May in that tiger,
so I did a good job.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I listened to him and tailor there may day the
other day he listened to it with a good view
of Benji excellent, really good.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We'll I have to get him on RaSE man.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
I went for Pain Hush and you can guess the
other one if you want.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Tina so many your lord, who a fault you are?
Who's your hooker?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
My hooker is Harry Green.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
I didn't actually have Harry in my Blake Brayley, but
I was going off to Daly more the Daly em
rules because Harry was rubbed out for unfortunately doing not much.
But anyway, that rule needs to be.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
A mental player.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Harry Harry Hoodie as well. Who's your back rollers?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Because this is a red hot field this one. I've
gone Hudson Young and Ellie kat I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I think they they have been unbelievable, excellent, two blokes
you'd want to date your daughter.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
I don't know Ellie, but I'll be happy with Hudson.
I don't know. I never met Ellie.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
I went for Katara as well, but then I went
like a.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Good choice, good choice, probably.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Probably rookie of the year. I imagine he'll be I.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Mean Robert, it's Robert Toyer and him and someone else.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Letker is phenomenal. Yeah, who's your lock, Isaiah?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
See I've gone Aaron Clark. Oh yeah, I thought Aaron
Clark had had a great He did have a great
in a Warrior side that were depleted by people leaving.
They still manage to get in the top eight and
they fought a k but had too many injuries.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I'd love to see him winning in this couple of
years been coming back in. I'd love to see it.
Great for the game of rugby league.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
I agree with you. Coop the dove that the Titans
that go. Now, he's you know, I don't know what
the word is.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He's got the dove and.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Full, he's seen his full potential, He's.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Realized his potential. His potential is blooming cherry blossom.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
What about Personality of the Year. This is more of
a backstage award.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
It was tempted to go Brian, but Walsh got a
sweet mate.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
I'm with you. Any bloke that can drink from a
toilet that he's installed himself sober. Yeah, I am one
hundred percent with it. And he did something else that
got caught in the headlines this year as well. He
did something else other than drinking in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
But he's the.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Puncher, Yeah, he the boxing gloves.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I just loved. One of my favorite moments this year
was with the toilet water and the Broncos pretty in
a statement saying to their fans, listen, don't drink toilet water. Guys,
you probably should give your fans a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Who is yourss?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Hard to go past Reese Walsh. He's just made the
game fun again, I think, and it's good to see
buzz and and all the other journals just hate when
they're talking about him anything.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Right, No, it is. It's nice to see like somebody
who because the game can. We can sometime we have
it in the past. Sometimes really like want characters and
then hate people who become a stereotype. So Reese comes
out and goes, well, I'm just going to be myself,
and then you really divides the camp. Some people go, no,
it's too much. Some people are going, I actually like
(50:00):
that he's an individual. I love to see him just
be himself. Yeah, I love you, drinking toiler who cares
journal of the you know my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I've got bulldogo Ritchie on Tuesday nights, Rasmund when I
sit there and I go, please be Bulldog, Please be
Bulldog and he I go, And we've got the journals in.
We've got my carryanas and Bulloor Ritchie. I go boys,
Doggie time. Yeah, mate, he Gordon Gordon told Gordon tell Us.
He told Doggie, he said, mate, the John's family when
(50:31):
you're on they froth they and mate, you said, Bulldog
was like really and he said, what do they love? And
he said, mate, love you jokes and you know, and
some of your headlines. So he now just plays it
up all the time and says to Gordon, have you
had anything from me? He's some many stuff this year
on Mary Fowler and Nathan. He's obsessed.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
He's obsessed with love. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I see.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I actually had him scratched from my awards, like the
equivalent of players getting scratched for suspension. I scratched Bulldog
for his article he wrote about Joey, which I thought
was in a really great, really bad taste. So he's
eliminated from mine. I went, I actually went Brent Reid,
the Red Man.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
He's a great man.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Read myster Yeah, I mean it's tough between him and Buzz.
Between those two dribblers is very hard. I went, Who's yours?
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Honestly, when when I saw this one, I couldn't even
think of anyone. I'm just in different, I mean different
to all the journals, and they're not like I don't
have an opinion, So I'd just been making something up for.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
The sake, you know what, And that's why we love
you as because you're authentic, just who you're, You're.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Honest to fault.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Yeah, well, guys, that's it. That's it, that's us, that's
that's how Dalama wards that is and it's our last preview.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's sad, it is.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Almost I wanted to end and letting you know too.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
We'll just throw a bone for a fellow podcast as
the Hollow Sport Boys on Sunday they are they're doing
a live podcast at the manly St on Greend final play.
I'm going to go in for about thirty minutes appearance.
So come down there and say, hey, y'all, and.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Someone count how many schooners you consume in thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh mate, if they're free, I will inhale them.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
You'd hope they're free.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
They'd have to be surely surely.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
To get you there, jes they must be free. Free
ocals and a lot of money is the only thing
that usually gets you there.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Where you're going to want or the.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
Where you going to watch the game? There are you're
just going to go.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I'm going to come back here and watch the game.
I'm really focused.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I'm out there. You're going to go out of the
game for some stuff, and you know I love watching
it at home. I mean, I'm not complaining of going
out lams in a way. But I've got a bit
of work out there, but it is it is good
atmosphere out there.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Where are you.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
I'm actually going to a Techno Day event from two
until like six, and then we'll leave that and go
to a pub somewhere and then it's that Watson's Bay.
Don't take if anyone sees men don't take drugs? No,
I won't.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Huge young people of Techno Show, I know what happens.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
What's it called RaSE ah sash sash by day, sash
by Day, So everyone keep an eye. If we got
any listeners who were going on to sash by Day,
message the backstage Instagram will put you in touch with.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Who knows, might not even remember the game.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Man, the best team win, Yeah,
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