June 18, 2025 • 36 mins
The boys break down Queensland’s gutsy Game II win, dissecting the key moments and standout performances. From brutal hits to big plays, they unpack how the Maroons turned the series on its head.
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0:00-Woods v Slater
4:00-First Impressions
10:00-NSW Discipline
14:00-Momentum
19:00-Best Players
21:30-Protecting the Lead
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31:40-Nathan Health
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, Origin Review Part two. We got there in
the end. Matthew has been missing. We usually sit there,
letting people know. We usually sit there and we watch
it together so we can analyze the game, talk about
the game. Matthew was watching it up at his friend
Marty's house, and he's come back about an hour and
a half post game. A couple of beers as well,
(00:41):
is that right? Including one right now?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
One right now? Not too many, probably anything from twelve
to fifteen, but now pretty good. Make kept a keen
eye on the game. Did any good points?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, I'm surprised you've come back with notes considering that
you've been gone for that long.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Mate. Well, I'm prefere, I'm trying to Can we remove this?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, remember that we have a prop that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Beheaded him Okay, would you think mate?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I first of all, something that we haven't spoke about,
the drama between Aaron Woods and Billy Slater at the
start of the role shout out to Woodsy for really
inspiring Queensland. Thanks Woodsy for that. They come out like
a ton of bricks. We sort of we sort of
anticipated that they would, But to be honest, on game
(01:36):
day this morning, I actually had I almost feel bad
for Queensland a little bit. I actually did think that
potentially that we're going to have a lot of distractions
given the whole situation, the back and forth between Slatsy
and Woodsy. You know, in hindsight they the players really
lifted for Billy and for Queensland shows how much they
mean to him.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, I didn't feel so much for Queensland. I thought
I did feel for Billy. Yeah, now I understand. What
happened was Woodsy's breakfast radio. Now, as you know breakfast radio,
they're trying to always do up come.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
On to say something.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes, that's how you get a bit of traction, And
he come out and said, you know, a bit he
tipal towed into the personal sometime. Woodsy when he started
talking about specifics but it was pretty harmless. Billy took
him a while to come back with the because when
(02:32):
you say something against someone, Coop, you you afford them
a right of reply. Took Billy a while to come back.
Billy got really emotional. I don't want to talk about
the poor green stuff because out of respect for Paul
the family and his family, it's all been said about that.
(02:54):
Billy was really emotional. Billy has He's had a difficult year, Billy,
you know, through circumstances with losing family and stuff like that.
And I could see how emotional he was got up
there and and so yeah, I did feel for him.
And to be honest, Coops, I I thought I was
(03:17):
even more confident in New South Wales when given the
last twenty four hours for Bill, he should have been
just during the side up when a lot of that
time was taken up. But yeah, yeah, I know, apologizing
making phone calls, you know. So yeah, but it's clear
(03:39):
that the team dug in for him.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. I originally thought Queens
them were going to win. I tipped them in our life,
our preview and then and then when this come up,
obviously I gained out like this was really got the
upper hand now. But Queensland that first half, it really
was a tal of two halves. That first half they
were unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Let's talk about it. Ten minute increments and the first
thing I saw, Coop, I've never seen Munster walking out
of the tunnel so stonefaced and mate. There was one
point when he was coming out he actually started shaking
and that's emotion and that's exactly why Billy put him
as captain. And I've stated previously you've got to big
(04:19):
note yourself. I want to be my big note myself.
In that I said elevating or dropping DCE had a
lot to do with him want to wanting to elevate Mounster.
I loved in the pregame where Billy just sat next
to Munster and Monster took his earpot out and put
it into Billies obviously listened to certain music. They had
(04:41):
a bit to laugh together. But Matt Munster again, Coop
man of the match, made that bloke when you talk
about the greatest storage and players right of all time.
And I've said this before about putting him alongside Wally
Lewis and people Scoff, I'm fucking telling you made that bloke.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's what he has.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Done for in State of Origin. What I'd love to
see how many men of matches he's got over the years.
But Wally got a mile of him, but made this
bloke like monsters.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like Queensland's been waiting for him to really elevate himself.
Like the last couple of times. He hasn't quite replicated
that twenty twenty series in a little bit. But what
he just did in that game just gone was it'll
go down as not that twenty twenty series esque. But
I mean considering what he does is what he does
potentially in game three, that game two, with all the
(05:37):
pressure on coins and all the pressure on his back,
DC dropped and like you said, you saw him pregame
with Slatsy and he put the airport in there. He's
having a laugh, that's what he's like. But then when
you saw him walking out with Tino behind him and
walking everyone out, it was a different like it was
a different month. Munster switches it on at the drop
of a hat when he wants to, and it's good
to see that he really lifted for this game.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's a real turning point months' career and Billy's afforded
him that and going right out, I'm going to make
you captain. Harry is the captain of Melbourne. I'm going
to supersed Harry. I'm going to make you captain above Harry,
above Tina, You're the captain. And he was after an
elevation and he got it. Opening Change's coop. It was
(06:18):
it was clear things that we're talking about Queensland. What
they were after, mate, They wanted to squash our play one,
two and three and they really compressed their line.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, we spoke about last game, how important paying Hess
and that, but more importantly Brian Edwards and Lomas are
for our game right like New South Wales relies so
heavily on the run meters and how much work did
they do that first half? You barely saw a lot
of those boys look damaging like the defense from Queensland.
(06:52):
They can pressed right in. It was raining over in
Perth suited how they wanted to defend us. They squashed
right in and they dominated that middle third.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is why the tail of the tape at the
end of the day was all about errors. The errors
you gave the opposition which in hand and in turn
gave the opposition field position in wet conditions like tonight.
How many long range tris suit do it? None? It's
all handing the opposition attacking position. And the first one
(07:25):
come because Munster full of adrenaline. You come on the
game of se he's shaking and that's really hard mate,
when you're half in really big games, controlling your adrenaline
is so difficult, pushing the team around the park, controlling
your excitement. And you can see earlier with Munster put
it on the left and he kicked a seven tackle
set straight away. What does that do? He gives New
(07:48):
South walescendency. They march up the field, they get to
do two attacking kicks. First one Nathan puts up, Caitln
drops it. Second attacking kick Lewis drops on his left foot,
they go through. Tyler scores his first drop.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, it's funny you talk about Monster and the adrenaline
because it's probably what you saw with probably what we
saw with Louie as well that first half. Loui was
quite out of sorts Drome in the four. That first
kick he kicked the trade out on the full, first tackle,
first first seat. The obviously he did a lot more
of the kicking because of Nathan's hams tree well, which
we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's that's a really big one because early in the
game were watching Nathan in the build up to the game,
it was funny watching Nathan. Nathan was sort of subdued
in the build up to the game, and there was
a little bit of talk that he wasn't one hundred
percent in the Blue said no, no, he's right to go.
But in the warm up he had his right hamstring taped,
(08:45):
which is his kicking leg. And Nathan Nathan a lot
of times, I've got no doubt the injuries soft tissue injuries,
self inflicted. Given the fact that how many extras he does,
like he worked, the things that make him, the things
that get him interested are injured, and so early kicks
(09:08):
Latrelle Jerome and first conversion first kick is Zach Lomax.
That is a monumental factor in this game. Given the
fact and we're going to skip ahead here, but it's
worth mentioning the fact that wesk I think we scored
(09:29):
five tries to four.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was five tries to four. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
At the end of the day, it was our goal
king and the costas. Yeah, who knows Nathan would have
hit none of those.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, well Val kicked every single goal and a penalty
goal which is the penalty goal ended up proving the
difference twenty six twenty four. But if they kicked all
their goals, it would have been thirty to twenty six. Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like it just shows like
how important goal kicking is. We know that. But Queensland,
I mean, you said, Wale scored a lot of their
tries through and you know, through the edges, Tyrone critters.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So well, so six and nor we're leading. What happens
after that New South Wales we give way a penalty,
Queensland get there. Really their their serious first opportunity coups
and what they do in game one Coop, you remember
and we spoke about this, Queensland kept moving the ball
to the right hand side of the field and they
(10:23):
kept catching out the combination of Latrell and Latrell would
gravitate in, Toe would gravitate out in the crowded opportunities.
And then the second half they just kept going to
the Lomax's side and Crichton's side because really likes to
attack Lomas and we're going like, but more anyway, this
(10:45):
game that try they attacked Latrell and Lomas and it
was the carbon copy given the fact that Latrell hasn't
defended at center regularly for a long time. Let and
as a combination know, but Latrolli even has played mostly fullback. Yeah,
(11:05):
and so you see when he goes up and they
put an attacking shape at you and he just gravitates
in a little bit and to flexes a little bit
and that creates the opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah's and they had Jerome there a new half there,
it's a new defensive edge. They threw all the attack
there that first half. You didn't see him actually throw
a heap of attack there in the second half, which
we're going to talk about the second half. But that
first half, like Queensland were just so hungry, so up
for this emotionally and New South Wales they just didn't
(11:39):
look like it looked like a team to me that
was complacent. It looked like a team to me that
all the media hyping him up during the during the week.
Game one, they went out and they set the tone
from the start. Whereas this game Queensland's at the tone.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, keep tell the tape. When you look at the
history of origin, there's very few clean sweeps. Yeah, that's
part of you dropped desk that much. And I'm not
saying were down in desperation, We're down on discipline. That's
the thing. I mean the second so six all and
what happens after that. We come up with a penalty
(12:15):
after that, and Queensland straight away like they get in
a position straight away. And I always say in these
really big games, and even more so in the wet
when you are in position for an attacking kick like
that is that's huge. You cannot give your opponent like
a opponent's field position for attacking kicks. And that second
(12:38):
try didn't knocks the ball over and creates a mismatch
we're talking about, and it's ham hammer on schools to
try twelve six.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, it's it's I'm trying to remember who scored that
the third try from is it's look, sorry, the third
tri wanted to talk about so which was it was
the tail of Queensland's whole game. Really you could see
the quick play, the balls that they were getting consistently,
and that first game we spoke about Harry. The effect
(13:12):
of that no rock speed had on Harry Grant. We
saw him not really try to force his hand trying
to get into the game. The perfect play, the perfect
try that showed cast how they played was they got
a few quick play the balls and then you see
Harry get out, which we didn't see it all in
Game one really been able to get out and showy
class his running game that had a big set play
(13:32):
set out to the right Munster like all good has.
When on principle, if you've got to play set out,
but your hooker gets out, as you're told to, just
push with him and push into space, push into a whole.
Monster pushes outside be the B defender I think was
Angus Crichton, and just because Harry's run threat, the A
(13:53):
and B defender Angus Crichton comes in to try to
help the Yeah solve the problem. Harry finds Munster, he
goes over for a try.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And monsters the best half of the hole when you
present to let people know there's the hole there, okay,
and the ballplayers coming there. The bad half of the
hole is there because gives that defender an opportunity to
catch you when you must replace the space that the
(14:21):
ballplayer has created. Crichton goes in, Munster takes that space,
gives that guy no opportunity, Coop, and I call it
the Alfred Langer rule. Alfie when he played at the Broncos,
alf would want the ball early, but when Carrod Waters
jumped out, he all of a sudden become a ball runner,
that's what and he would compliment Carrot's like Carrod's play,
(14:45):
and that's what Muster did. I'll say this Coop just
before that. It's a really interesting thing. This was just
before that try. It was staple coins Land to get
them ahead fourteen six. Both sides are a lot of errors, mate,
they're knocking on and both sides are looking for ascendency.
(15:06):
And this is a really big thing for New South
Wales coops. Our thing for New South Wales always has
to be what do we do when we are under pressure?
All the games really in a balance. Until what Coinsland did,
Queensland reverted to what they do all the time they're
staple in that period. What happens is when lots of
(15:28):
areas they go where kick early downfield from Munster attempt
for the forty twenty, they don't get it New South Wales.
But the kick chase, they come down rare in the
keyck chase and they put it straight under pressure. A
tackle or two later they trap Lomax. Lomac's elbows are
(15:50):
fourteen to six appenally. That's what Coinsland does. Whenever Queensland
are under pressure coops, that's that's their football. Simple football,
not trying to advance the ball all the time or
try for them as you play simple kick long, early
chase like fuck and then like rush them in defense forceerrus.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's funny you say that because we used we used
to wrap Dce up on how how good he was
at that. He took that over from Cameron Smith who
used to do that all the time in State of Origin.
Have a big kick and their kick chase would lead
down and it was usually a big momentum shift in
getting the you know, getting the contest back in their favor.
We saw Dalla chair Evans do it consistently the last
(16:35):
four or five seasons series when he's been there. Now
you see the handing of the batono over to Munster,
got the captaincy. He did most of the kicking and
you see him do a lot of that early kicking
Intnight's game, which is it's part of their identity and
it's where they actually get a lot of energy from,
Like they get so much energy out of their kickchase
and their kick pressure queens there. Yeah, the small effort.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Areas and that conversion there they took. When it's twelve six, okay,
and you're behind by a single play like six points,
you actually you feel comfortable you're in one play. But
I'll tee you mate, particularly in the wet when all
of a sudden you get fourteen six, you're outside of
the six point split. So you need two scoring plays
(17:19):
straight away. That puts a little bit pressure on you.
What's the really important thing the muster does when he
plays coops run run the ball. Now, he won't get
the credit for this try, but to try to make
a twenty six to six. You watch Munsters runs the
ball right foot, right foot, and he attracts three or
(17:39):
four defenders and he does a laid off float. Now
in the next tackle that leads to Kaylin onto Kurt Man.
That wonderful combination Delaney Hotel and then he gets knocked
out and all of a sudden, Kirk Caball scores Now
that comes from Munster. That's him running the football in
(18:00):
the pond. Whatever reverberated after that came from the monster
run and the laid off flow.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah yeah, And they come back to the same reason
why Munster scored that try before, like quick play the
balls is where and they got a lot of their
quick play thea balls through their little men, not their
big men, like New So Wales have done with pain
haas did and Munster when they run the ball nine
percent of the time they get a quick play the
ball because they get a one on one you see
much to get the offload. He finds Caitlyn Ponger, He
gets Ponger, got between two defenders, got a really quick
(18:29):
play the ball. Harry is able to get out and
actually run, finds did and who finds Kurt Man, who
then scores for Kate. Well like it's their blueprint and
that's we saw how good a job New So Wales
did it nullifying their quick play the balls to stop
those spine players in game one. They just didn't do
a good job of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
This end first half tell the best players on the field,
Monster run, Harry, Harry beyond his coup flow. We spoke
about this last week. Harry when he believes he has
to go above and beyond, he doesn't tie himself for Knights,
but he goes against the flow of the game. Harry
(19:10):
in this game was beautiful in the fact that he
won't be named as one of the out and out stars,
but he just went with the flow of the game
and did some really important plays. I thought Val Holmes
in the first half come up with some really big
defensive place. I thought he was aggressive. I thought Didon
was good in his own way, like taking him on,
nice kick. And I'll tear what with Kayln Kaylen? Importantly
(19:35):
was busy penalty count? Halftime eight no Coinsland?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Did they eople? Eight penalties?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
First half? Eight nol Coinsland? Now us New South Walesman.
Most people they'll point to that and go look at that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'll tear.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Why we were fucking undisciplined.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Don't play. Don't blame the referee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We were disciplined and credit because at the start of
the game the referee was actually trying to sort of
stay out of it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He wanted to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He didn't actually get a lot of choice because a
lot of a lot of the time it was New
so whal was actually causing errors in the rock or
hitting someone high where it was kind of you couldn't
just let it go like you actually had to make
a call because it led to an error. But yeah,
they were really under a lot of uncharacteristic stuff from
New so Wales, like particularly bokes like Critter who had
(20:28):
a lot of couple of errors, but just uncharacteristic stuff.
Obviously talking about Nathan with his hamsteing. Jerome was quite
off that first half as well, but just everyone just
looked a bit out of source. It looked like they
weren't ready for the ambush to Queen, like they should
have expected the ambush, but it didn't seem like they
knew it was coming.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Until it happened the first half with Critter a little
bit latrob but more with Critter is I found during
the game our halves probably advanced the ball too far
into the line. And when you do that, coops and
again the wet accentuates it. When you advance the ball
too far in the line, what happens is it leaves
(21:05):
your centers and you're outside men vulnerable to outside indefenders.
And I thought that's what happened, and if you look
at the first try after halftime, the first try to
half time Queensland error. And by the way, I'll say this,
when you're leading twenty six six at halftime, everyone just goes, ah, fuck,
they're hard to get on it. When you're sitting in
(21:26):
that dressing room, it's a really awkward conversation. The conversation is, boys,
let's keep doing what we're doing. The score is nil
all but in all the players' minds they're going, Okay,
I'm going to protect this lead. Protecting a lead is
fraught with danger. It's so mate, you are, it's so
(21:48):
easy to get in the slippery slide. And it happened
to Queensland in the second half. At times they've lost
their nerve and they we nearly snatched it from If
Queensland had just kept playing discipline wise, not being frivoless,
kept playing that had gone on with it. Yeah, but
errors and their mindset was suddenly less defended.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well when when New South Wales mindset in there and
they go right, we're down by twenty points, go out
there and play footy, win need points. When they go
out with an attacking mindset and Queensland go out with
right out, let's protect this lead. Let's they're on the
back foot. Like it's like in soccer where they parked
the bus. They put all their defenders, all their people back,
just trying to guard the goal, and the other team
(22:29):
go you beauty, and they just come up and just
be like it just happened, Marnes in every game it does.
And then it was it was literally the tailor too hours.
It was just what Queensland did to New So Wales
at first half. They come out firing. New So are
on the back foot. They don't know what to do. Queensland,
by their owner call that second half, trying to protect
the lead, did put themselves in the same position. They
(22:50):
knew New so I was going to come out fire
and shots because they had nothing to lose, but they
decided to not fire in themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
We're talking about football. The only person I've ever seen
they can now regularly got success and won Champions League
and park and the bus was Marina. It was genius.
Genius is a defense and the rest of it. But yeah,
Queensland invited us back into the contest and Coop was
saying about like the halves advancing the ball too far
into the line, and we said it leading into the game.
(23:17):
What was really important is to put my glasses onto itself.
Look more intelligent was we had to push the ball
to the edge. Now, the first try we get after
halftime is a byproduct of us pushing the ball to
the edge. Giving the ball the first time in the
game to Latrell early, who gives him a little bit
(23:38):
of space and he puts too away, which is twenty
six to ten soon after. This is a really big one.
Isaiah is a really great captain. There's a few things
that happen, a bit of a knock on all the
rest of Isaiah goes for the challenge and we get
the penalty. This time Crichton gets the early. We give
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Crichton the ball early, he goes over and scores. Yeah,
you know, and so it's like you can see Queensland
stat slip. Yeah, well what they've done. They've lost their
nerve with fifteen minutes to go.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, Well, like you said, in that first half, the
halves went so deep into the line, particularly on Crichton's side.
They gave Crichton a couple of times and the winger
come out and jammed on him one time. He dropped it.
The other time he tapped it onto Lomax. But the
two deadliest players on our on Nisowl site, Crichton and
Latrelle Mitchell, who you want to get the footy in
their hands close to the line. We didn't give them
any opportunity in that first half and it was tough,
(24:39):
I understand that. But then that second half they shifted completely.
They knew what they had to do. They find Latrell,
he finds t and then that second one beautifully, Dylan
Edwards doesn't catch try to draw anyone, he just catches
and give it to him because you know, the last
thing that Valentine Holmes wants as a center is for
Krichton to have time to use his strengths because he's
fanned and his footwork. And then even the next try
(24:59):
after that same thing, Latrell gets it early and sets
up to again.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It does gets along and that comes with the fact
that this time we kicked early through leuy and it
wasn't great. It was a bit of a blood drive kick.
It was sort of an attempted banana but hammer knocks
it on. Yeah, yeah, and all a sudd this is
where you're going, mate, They're under the pump twenty six forteen,
I think might have been that one that Lomac's hit
(25:25):
the postal the one before. Yeah, that's really that's the tough.
At the time, I thought to himself, that's a costly one. Yeah,
to be twenty six sixteen as opposed to twenty six fourteen,
it sounds like nothing, but it is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, And it's not just the confidence it gives me
so well, like letting people know when you're a player
out there, you're actually looking up at the scoreboard and
you're kind of doing the math, like you know, how
many tries do we need? YadA YadA, but the confidence
that it also gives Queensland as in terms of breathing
room as a defense, they go, all right, sweet, don't worry, boys,
we're still up by eight. Need two tries, Like we
(26:02):
can still manage this game. But if they go, if
Queen's then to kicking off and they go, they're only
one try away from tying this game, we're in deep shit.
Like it is. It's such a psychological battle.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And well, at this point, Coops, you as you said,
psychological battle, Queen's Land come up with another era. We're
not long ago, and this time blue Eye puts this
in position coop for another attacking kid drops on his
left again and we score.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah that was now.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Now it's twenty six, twenty four. We're not long ago
and make Queensland on skates.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, he we.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
But I'll tell you what coops the gods of rugby
league and I've seen this a million times now, big
note of myself here, even when we're on the attack
in the last minute, what did I say?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't remember what you said because you were in
your mate's place.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, now, well I text you and I said you
text me and went, wow, we're going to snatch this
and I said we won't because we don't just deserve
to win. I cannot tell you how many times that
I have seen games and I've thought to myself like
(27:10):
we're going to snatch it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But he called me.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
He called me and he told me your memories.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He's pretty drunk. I've been listening to him trying to talk.
He's slurring like half of his work.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sorry, you've drifting.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He texts me with like two and a half minutes ago,
saying I've seen this a thousand times.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
New South Wales don't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Score okay, because we don't deserve to win. Yeah right,
we've been undisciplined. Turn me, back down, turn down money,
I say, like a bit of respect. I'm not slurring.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We'll throw it out to the listeners. I'm sitting here
trying to understand. Have you and you can't read your notes?
You're trailing okay, people know you, I will say, still
some beautiful gold coming out of your brain. It's just
hard to.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Get from their last listeners. You ask anyone and any
other person that critiques this game if they've done a
had a job than me.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, No, you're an ex fucking.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah. Last five minutes. We attack all the time. But
the bottom line is Queensland have got the desperation. At
the end of the day, all they got to do
is to defend these last couple of sets and they get
they get, they get defenders there and they held us
out and the end that we just.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We didn't deserve it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
We got beat in the penalty count ten two coops
and has said before excuse me burping in the mocrophone.
As I said before, people will look and go blow
up and go ten to Ashley Klimb, it deserved to
be ten too. We were really undisciplined, tend to regardless,
(28:41):
we lost all those conversions. At the very essence, the
gods of rugby league, Queensland won because we didn't deserve.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And I'll tell you what, I tipped my hat like
I tip my hat the News well for their comeback,
and I also tipped my hat to Queensland for their
ability to defend that second half because they were We
haven't touched enough on how shit they actually played that
second half, because that last fifteen minutes, every time they
got the footy they made an error, like they didn't
complete a set for that last twenty minutes a lot
of the time. And you just saw the Queensland in
(29:13):
Game one when they were defending the last five minutes
on their line. We gave them a couple six agains.
They're going they go on that game. One side wouldn't
have they wouldn't have held out. And you said, well,
it was in that sense, but you saw the desperation,
You saw how much it meant to them. They turned
us away about three or four times to seal the game.
Credit to them, they did a bloody good job. Queens
(29:33):
Like Laurel will go away.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Tonight and look at the tape him belly ache and
go what the fuck happened for us to be six
in a lap end up twenty six six? When you
go through and it's if you're a.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Coach, If you're a coach, do you take given that
the penalty count was ten two and it was a
lot of their fault, do you take confidence out of
that though? Do you take confidence in knowing next time
we go into camp focusing on being disciplined and they
couldn't play much worse that first half. Do you take
confidence going into game three as New.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So Wales or say this coup? Well, you've got to
be confident as a coach. As if I to talk
about it neutral, I would say New South Wales weren't
good in game one, weren't great, We're good six Queensland
were bad, Yeah, one of their worst performances and they
come out and win in game two. In game two
(30:28):
we were ill disciplined costers, but we were as far
as discipline, we were poor. Yeah, And so it's not
about confidence, coup, it's just about performance in game three
And I he belly say this all the time. It's
true New South Wales whatever our game is, whatever our
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tactics are. We have to get our game on. That's
what it is. The beauty one one. The NRL will
love it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh mate, I'm excited that it's going to a tiebreak.
I hate dead rubbers, But like I said, you just
sort of touched on Game one. New so Will's probably
played good for about fifty minutes of it. Queensland played
bad for about seventy minutes of it. This game it
was forty and forty. Queensland played out standing for the
first half, so Well's played shit. Just Well's played outstanding
for the second half, Queensland paid bad. It's all shaping
(31:24):
up for game three. It'd be awesome to see two
teams Queensland New so Wales come in both put eighty
minute performances together where they're both at the top like
some of the origins we're seeing in the past, and
just see who comes out on top.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's going to be very interesting coop to see how
bad Nathan's hamstring is and if he can go into
game three well. It'd be frustrating for Nathan because this
was to be Nathan's series and for this second one
to go in with the hamstring and it's funny going
into the build up of the game, Likely said about Munster,
like Munster walked out and you could see he was like,
(31:56):
you know, it was beautiful hair that he's just sort
of got. Maybe I know what that's all about. And
and when watching the news when they go to Nathan,
he just looked not quite right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Like hamstring injuries, it's in effect. You don't want to
say how much it affects your confidence, like it's it's
it's actually such a debilitating injury, like.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I did about eight hamstrings. I was known before I
did hamstrings as the Usain Bolt of Newcastle. And then
it just robbed me in my speed, my first foot,
my first step, quickness, I could have.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Been well, you kept saying, you know, you played state
of orision on the wing.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So what about that? I know how something it is
all these people got injured and Tommy threw me on
the wing and I'm standing there and Kenny McGuinness was
on the inside of me, and I'm marking Wendell and
I said, fucking can he swiping? He guess I'm not
marking him no.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Other way. Specialist wingers couldn't even Mark Wendall let alone
subpar five.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Wendell was sledge me relentlessly.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm going to pull you up there because you just said.
Someone chimed in and said that you said that you
were the one that said, yeah, turn me down.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
He doesn't, but didn't someone reach out on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Somebody commented on our video saying, I can't believe this.
F Wick played State of Origin for the Blues. They did. Yeah,
I didn't tell you that at the time because they
want to bring the confidence down. Sorry, hey, defend me
before I did. I commented back. I said, mate, never
listen to our podcast again. Three two ones for the game.
As we wrap up.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, special mention Val Holmes, Harry with his flow, Bryan
tut Well Bran three tries like yeah, he was incredible.
He could almost get the three points. Brian, he could
over two hundred moons, just about run. He was one
hundred and eighty. Was a bit tender. Three tries. I
(33:58):
mean it could be mean at the match. Look, I've
gone three months.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Modern a wally to Kurt KWill he was really good.
Kate Will mate as an old saying coop an old
dog for a hard road. When you need the job done.
You pick the old veteran and he'll get it done.
And last week we're talking to Looke Metcalf. He came
(34:25):
in two weeks ago on the Show and the Warriors
and we're talking about the te him and he says
at times Andrew Webster will say to Kurt, I need
you defend Senna, and Kurt will go, oh fucking hell, Webby,
fucking mate, come on, and he goes, mate, I just
need you to be there because everywhere you play you excel,
(34:46):
and I need you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
To He just gets the job done. He actually does
just get there. Was there was a real big moment
for me. Kirk paynehas charged at him in the first
half and Kurt Kate Well just went whack and hit
him right underneath the ribs and put him on his back,
which you didn't see once in game one. So shout
out of the capes.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Back of the Week one. I'll split between Bran Toto
and pain Paint Hats again, Paint Hassles going in game three.
If New South Wales win the series, he's got to
be he's got to be a man of the series.
Gett Metal.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
We'll see my one. I like to start low, you did,
Harry Grant. I thought Harrison was outstanding, particularly the.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
First half with his You don't need to keep giving
your boyfriend points.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean, seriously, go on, it's right keep interrupting Harry
Grant with his attack, outstanding quick play the balls, but
mainly his defense. I think the first first game they
found him out a lot, try to spot him up
through the middle. This time he showed up, did excellent
with his defense. Number two Brian Toto, I thought, probably
the best on the field for New South Wales in
my opinion, can finish sometimes even when there's a lot
(35:52):
of cover defense. A lot of wingers won't finish half
the tries of the Bizzer finishes. He just is so
hard to tackle inside that five meters. And then number three,
I think everyone's out of the match. Moneyman monster. Here
comes the money chet out the Mondog, horrendous hairline.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But nonetheless getting the old widow's peak.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's a dad now matiple threat spitting them out.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Time to be able to sect me month right, Buddy,
good on your man, love the game, Bring on the
bring on the decider.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, Origin Review Part two. We got there in
the end. Matthew has been missing. We usually sit there,
letting people know. We usually sit there and we watch
it together so we can analyze the game, talk about
the game. Matthew was watching it up at his friend
Marty's house, and he's come back about an hour and
a half post game. A couple of beers as well,
(00:41):
is that right? Including one right now?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
One right now? Not too many, probably anything from twelve
to fifteen, but now pretty good. Make kept a keen
eye on the game. Did any good points?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, I'm surprised you've come back with notes considering that
you've been gone for that long.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Mate. Well, I'm prefere, I'm trying to Can we remove this?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, remember that we have a prop that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Beheaded him Okay, would you think mate?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I first of all, something that we haven't spoke about,
the drama between Aaron Woods and Billy Slater at the
start of the role shout out to Woodsy for really
inspiring Queensland. Thanks Woodsy for that. They come out like
a ton of bricks. We sort of we sort of
anticipated that they would, But to be honest, on game
(01:36):
day this morning, I actually had I almost feel bad
for Queensland a little bit. I actually did think that
potentially that we're going to have a lot of distractions
given the whole situation, the back and forth between Slatsy
and Woodsy. You know, in hindsight they the players really
lifted for Billy and for Queensland shows how much they
mean to him.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, I didn't feel so much for Queensland. I thought
I did feel for Billy. Yeah, now I understand. What
happened was Woodsy's breakfast radio. Now, as you know breakfast radio,
they're trying to always do up come.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
On to say something.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes, that's how you get a bit of traction, And
he come out and said, you know, a bit he
tipal towed into the personal sometime. Woodsy when he started
talking about specifics but it was pretty harmless. Billy took
him a while to come back with the because when
(02:32):
you say something against someone, Coop, you you afford them
a right of reply. Took Billy a while to come back.
Billy got really emotional. I don't want to talk about
the poor green stuff because out of respect for Paul
the family and his family, it's all been said about that.
(02:54):
Billy was really emotional. Billy has He's had a difficult year, Billy,
you know, through circumstances with losing family and stuff like that.
And I could see how emotional he was got up
there and and so yeah, I did feel for him.
And to be honest, Coops, I I thought I was
(03:17):
even more confident in New South Wales when given the
last twenty four hours for Bill, he should have been
just during the side up when a lot of that
time was taken up. But yeah, yeah, I know, apologizing
making phone calls, you know. So yeah, but it's clear
(03:39):
that the team dug in for him.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. I originally thought Queens
them were going to win. I tipped them in our life,
our preview and then and then when this come up,
obviously I gained out like this was really got the
upper hand now. But Queensland that first half, it really
was a tal of two halves. That first half they
were unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Let's talk about it. Ten minute increments and the first
thing I saw, Coop, I've never seen Munster walking out
of the tunnel so stonefaced and mate. There was one
point when he was coming out he actually started shaking
and that's emotion and that's exactly why Billy put him
as captain. And I've stated previously you've got to big
(04:19):
note yourself. I want to be my big note myself.
In that I said elevating or dropping DCE had a
lot to do with him want to wanting to elevate Mounster.
I loved in the pregame where Billy just sat next
to Munster and Monster took his earpot out and put
it into Billies obviously listened to certain music. They had
(04:41):
a bit to laugh together. But Matt Munster again, Coop
man of the match, made that bloke when you talk
about the greatest storage and players right of all time.
And I've said this before about putting him alongside Wally
Lewis and people Scoff, I'm fucking telling you made that bloke.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's what he has.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Done for in State of Origin. What I'd love to
see how many men of matches he's got over the years.
But Wally got a mile of him, but made this
bloke like monsters.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like Queensland's been waiting for him to really elevate himself.
Like the last couple of times. He hasn't quite replicated
that twenty twenty series in a little bit. But what
he just did in that game just gone was it'll
go down as not that twenty twenty series esque. But
I mean considering what he does is what he does
potentially in game three, that game two, with all the
(05:37):
pressure on coins and all the pressure on his back,
DC dropped and like you said, you saw him pregame
with Slatsy and he put the airport in there. He's
having a laugh, that's what he's like. But then when
you saw him walking out with Tino behind him and
walking everyone out, it was a different like it was
a different month. Munster switches it on at the drop
of a hat when he wants to, and it's good
to see that he really lifted for this game.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's a real turning point months' career and Billy's afforded
him that and going right out, I'm going to make
you captain. Harry is the captain of Melbourne. I'm going
to supersed Harry. I'm going to make you captain above Harry,
above Tina, You're the captain. And he was after an
elevation and he got it. Opening Change's coop. It was
(06:18):
it was clear things that we're talking about Queensland. What
they were after, mate, They wanted to squash our play one,
two and three and they really compressed their line.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, we spoke about last game, how important paying Hess
and that, but more importantly Brian Edwards and Lomas are
for our game right like New South Wales relies so
heavily on the run meters and how much work did
they do that first half? You barely saw a lot
of those boys look damaging like the defense from Queensland.
(06:52):
They can pressed right in. It was raining over in
Perth suited how they wanted to defend us. They squashed
right in and they dominated that middle third.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is why the tail of the tape at the
end of the day was all about errors. The errors
you gave the opposition which in hand and in turn
gave the opposition field position in wet conditions like tonight.
How many long range tris suit do it? None? It's
all handing the opposition attacking position. And the first one
(07:25):
come because Munster full of adrenaline. You come on the
game of se he's shaking and that's really hard mate,
when you're half in really big games, controlling your adrenaline
is so difficult, pushing the team around the park, controlling
your excitement. And you can see earlier with Munster put
it on the left and he kicked a seven tackle
set straight away. What does that do? He gives New
(07:48):
South walescendency. They march up the field, they get to
do two attacking kicks. First one Nathan puts up, Caitln
drops it. Second attacking kick Lewis drops on his left foot,
they go through. Tyler scores his first drop.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, it's funny you talk about Monster and the adrenaline
because it's probably what you saw with probably what we
saw with Louie as well that first half. Loui was
quite out of sorts Drome in the four. That first
kick he kicked the trade out on the full, first tackle,
first first seat. The obviously he did a lot more
of the kicking because of Nathan's hams tree well, which
we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's that's a really big one because early in the
game were watching Nathan in the build up to the game,
it was funny watching Nathan. Nathan was sort of subdued
in the build up to the game, and there was
a little bit of talk that he wasn't one hundred
percent in the Blue said no, no, he's right to go.
But in the warm up he had his right hamstring taped,
(08:45):
which is his kicking leg. And Nathan Nathan a lot
of times, I've got no doubt the injuries soft tissue injuries,
self inflicted. Given the fact that how many extras he does,
like he worked, the things that make him, the things
that get him interested are injured, and so early kicks
(09:08):
Latrelle Jerome and first conversion first kick is Zach Lomax.
That is a monumental factor in this game. Given the
fact and we're going to skip ahead here, but it's
worth mentioning the fact that wesk I think we scored
(09:29):
five tries to four.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was five tries to four. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
At the end of the day, it was our goal
king and the costas. Yeah, who knows Nathan would have
hit none of those.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, well Val kicked every single goal and a penalty
goal which is the penalty goal ended up proving the
difference twenty six twenty four. But if they kicked all
their goals, it would have been thirty to twenty six. Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like it just shows like
how important goal kicking is. We know that. But Queensland,
I mean, you said, Wale scored a lot of their
tries through and you know, through the edges, Tyrone critters.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So well, so six and nor we're leading. What happens
after that New South Wales we give way a penalty,
Queensland get there. Really their their serious first opportunity coups
and what they do in game one Coop, you remember
and we spoke about this, Queensland kept moving the ball
to the right hand side of the field and they
(10:23):
kept catching out the combination of Latrell and Latrell would
gravitate in, Toe would gravitate out in the crowded opportunities.
And then the second half they just kept going to
the Lomax's side and Crichton's side because really likes to
attack Lomas and we're going like, but more anyway, this
(10:45):
game that try they attacked Latrell and Lomas and it
was the carbon copy given the fact that Latrell hasn't
defended at center regularly for a long time. Let and
as a combination know, but Latrolli even has played mostly fullback. Yeah,
(11:05):
and so you see when he goes up and they
put an attacking shape at you and he just gravitates
in a little bit and to flexes a little bit
and that creates the opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah's and they had Jerome there a new half there,
it's a new defensive edge. They threw all the attack
there that first half. You didn't see him actually throw
a heap of attack there in the second half, which
we're going to talk about the second half. But that
first half, like Queensland were just so hungry, so up
for this emotionally and New South Wales they just didn't
(11:39):
look like it looked like a team to me that
was complacent. It looked like a team to me that
all the media hyping him up during the during the week.
Game one, they went out and they set the tone
from the start. Whereas this game Queensland's at the tone.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, keep tell the tape. When you look at the
history of origin, there's very few clean sweeps. Yeah, that's
part of you dropped desk that much. And I'm not
saying were down in desperation, We're down on discipline. That's
the thing. I mean the second so six all and
what happens after that. We come up with a penalty
(12:15):
after that, and Queensland straight away like they get in
a position straight away. And I always say in these
really big games, and even more so in the wet
when you are in position for an attacking kick like
that is that's huge. You cannot give your opponent like
a opponent's field position for attacking kicks. And that second
(12:38):
try didn't knocks the ball over and creates a mismatch
we're talking about, and it's ham hammer on schools to
try twelve six.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, it's it's I'm trying to remember who scored that
the third try from is it's look, sorry, the third
tri wanted to talk about so which was it was
the tail of Queensland's whole game. Really you could see
the quick play, the balls that they were getting consistently,
and that first game we spoke about Harry. The effect
(13:12):
of that no rock speed had on Harry Grant. We
saw him not really try to force his hand trying
to get into the game. The perfect play, the perfect
try that showed cast how they played was they got
a few quick play the balls and then you see
Harry get out, which we didn't see it all in
Game one really been able to get out and showy
class his running game that had a big set play
(13:32):
set out to the right Munster like all good has.
When on principle, if you've got to play set out,
but your hooker gets out, as you're told to, just
push with him and push into space, push into a whole.
Monster pushes outside be the B defender I think was
Angus Crichton, and just because Harry's run threat, the A
(13:53):
and B defender Angus Crichton comes in to try to
help the Yeah solve the problem. Harry finds Munster, he
goes over for a try.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And monsters the best half of the hole when you
present to let people know there's the hole there, okay,
and the ballplayers coming there. The bad half of the
hole is there because gives that defender an opportunity to
catch you when you must replace the space that the
(14:21):
ballplayer has created. Crichton goes in, Munster takes that space,
gives that guy no opportunity, Coop, and I call it
the Alfred Langer rule. Alfie when he played at the Broncos,
alf would want the ball early, but when Carrod Waters
jumped out, he all of a sudden become a ball runner,
that's what and he would compliment Carrot's like Carrod's play,
(14:45):
and that's what Muster did. I'll say this Coop just
before that. It's a really interesting thing. This was just
before that try. It was staple coins Land to get
them ahead fourteen six. Both sides are a lot of errors, mate,
they're knocking on and both sides are looking for ascendency.
(15:06):
And this is a really big thing for New South
Wales coops. Our thing for New South Wales always has
to be what do we do when we are under pressure?
All the games really in a balance. Until what Coinsland did,
Queensland reverted to what they do all the time they're
staple in that period. What happens is when lots of
(15:28):
areas they go where kick early downfield from Munster attempt
for the forty twenty, they don't get it New South Wales.
But the kick chase, they come down rare in the
keyck chase and they put it straight under pressure. A
tackle or two later they trap Lomax. Lomac's elbows are
(15:50):
fourteen to six appenally. That's what Coinsland does. Whenever Queensland
are under pressure coops, that's that's their football. Simple football,
not trying to advance the ball all the time or
try for them as you play simple kick long, early
chase like fuck and then like rush them in defense forceerrus.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's funny you say that because we used we used
to wrap Dce up on how how good he was
at that. He took that over from Cameron Smith who
used to do that all the time in State of Origin.
Have a big kick and their kick chase would lead
down and it was usually a big momentum shift in
getting the you know, getting the contest back in their favor.
We saw Dalla chair Evans do it consistently the last
(16:35):
four or five seasons series when he's been there. Now
you see the handing of the batono over to Munster,
got the captaincy. He did most of the kicking and
you see him do a lot of that early kicking
Intnight's game, which is it's part of their identity and
it's where they actually get a lot of energy from,
Like they get so much energy out of their kickchase
and their kick pressure queens there. Yeah, the small effort.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Areas and that conversion there they took. When it's twelve six, okay,
and you're behind by a single play like six points,
you actually you feel comfortable you're in one play. But
I'll tee you mate, particularly in the wet when all
of a sudden you get fourteen six, you're outside of
the six point split. So you need two scoring plays
(17:19):
straight away. That puts a little bit pressure on you.
What's the really important thing the muster does when he
plays coops run run the ball. Now, he won't get
the credit for this try, but to try to make
a twenty six to six. You watch Munsters runs the
ball right foot, right foot, and he attracts three or
(17:39):
four defenders and he does a laid off float. Now
in the next tackle that leads to Kaylin onto Kurt Man.
That wonderful combination Delaney Hotel and then he gets knocked
out and all of a sudden, Kirk Caball scores Now
that comes from Munster. That's him running the football in
(18:00):
the pond. Whatever reverberated after that came from the monster
run and the laid off flow.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah yeah, And they come back to the same reason
why Munster scored that try before, like quick play the
balls is where and they got a lot of their
quick play thea balls through their little men, not their
big men, like New So Wales have done with pain
haas did and Munster when they run the ball nine
percent of the time they get a quick play the
ball because they get a one on one you see
much to get the offload. He finds Caitlyn Ponger, He
gets Ponger, got between two defenders, got a really quick
(18:29):
play the ball. Harry is able to get out and
actually run, finds did and who finds Kurt Man, who
then scores for Kate. Well like it's their blueprint and
that's we saw how good a job New So Wales
did it nullifying their quick play the balls to stop
those spine players in game one. They just didn't do
a good job of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
This end first half tell the best players on the field,
Monster run, Harry, Harry beyond his coup flow. We spoke
about this last week. Harry when he believes he has
to go above and beyond, he doesn't tie himself for Knights,
but he goes against the flow of the game. Harry
(19:10):
in this game was beautiful in the fact that he
won't be named as one of the out and out stars,
but he just went with the flow of the game
and did some really important plays. I thought Val Holmes
in the first half come up with some really big
defensive place. I thought he was aggressive. I thought Didon
was good in his own way, like taking him on,
nice kick. And I'll tear what with Kayln Kaylen? Importantly
(19:35):
was busy penalty count? Halftime eight no Coinsland?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Did they eople? Eight penalties?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
First half? Eight nol Coinsland? Now us New South Walesman.
Most people they'll point to that and go look at that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'll tear.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Why we were fucking undisciplined.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Don't play. Don't blame the referee.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We were disciplined and credit because at the start of
the game the referee was actually trying to sort of
stay out of it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He wanted to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He didn't actually get a lot of choice because a
lot of a lot of the time it was New
so whal was actually causing errors in the rock or
hitting someone high where it was kind of you couldn't
just let it go like you actually had to make
a call because it led to an error. But yeah,
they were really under a lot of uncharacteristic stuff from
New so Wales, like particularly bokes like Critter who had
(20:28):
a lot of couple of errors, but just uncharacteristic stuff.
Obviously talking about Nathan with his hamsteing. Jerome was quite
off that first half as well, but just everyone just
looked a bit out of source. It looked like they
weren't ready for the ambush to Queen, like they should
have expected the ambush, but it didn't seem like they
knew it was coming.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Until it happened the first half with Critter a little
bit latrob but more with Critter is I found during
the game our halves probably advanced the ball too far
into the line. And when you do that, coops and
again the wet accentuates it. When you advance the ball
too far in the line, what happens is it leaves
(21:05):
your centers and you're outside men vulnerable to outside indefenders.
And I thought that's what happened, and if you look
at the first try after halftime, the first try to
half time Queensland error. And by the way, I'll say this,
when you're leading twenty six six at halftime, everyone just goes, ah, fuck,
they're hard to get on it. When you're sitting in
(21:26):
that dressing room, it's a really awkward conversation. The conversation is, boys,
let's keep doing what we're doing. The score is nil
all but in all the players' minds they're going, Okay,
I'm going to protect this lead. Protecting a lead is
fraught with danger. It's so mate, you are, it's so
(21:48):
easy to get in the slippery slide. And it happened
to Queensland in the second half. At times they've lost
their nerve and they we nearly snatched it from If
Queensland had just kept playing discipline wise, not being frivoless,
kept playing that had gone on with it. Yeah, but
errors and their mindset was suddenly less defended.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well when when New South Wales mindset in there and
they go right, we're down by twenty points, go out
there and play footy, win need points. When they go
out with an attacking mindset and Queensland go out with
right out, let's protect this lead. Let's they're on the
back foot. Like it's like in soccer where they parked
the bus. They put all their defenders, all their people back,
just trying to guard the goal, and the other team
(22:29):
go you beauty, and they just come up and just
be like it just happened, Marnes in every game it does.
And then it was it was literally the tailor too hours.
It was just what Queensland did to New So Wales
at first half. They come out firing. New So are
on the back foot. They don't know what to do. Queensland,
by their owner call that second half, trying to protect
the lead, did put themselves in the same position. They
(22:50):
knew New so I was going to come out fire
and shots because they had nothing to lose, but they
decided to not fire in themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
We're talking about football. The only person I've ever seen
they can now regularly got success and won Champions League
and park and the bus was Marina. It was genius.
Genius is a defense and the rest of it. But yeah,
Queensland invited us back into the contest and Coop was
saying about like the halves advancing the ball too far
into the line, and we said it leading into the game.
(23:17):
What was really important is to put my glasses onto itself.
Look more intelligent was we had to push the ball
to the edge. Now, the first try we get after
halftime is a byproduct of us pushing the ball to
the edge. Giving the ball the first time in the
game to Latrell early, who gives him a little bit
(23:38):
of space and he puts too away, which is twenty
six to ten soon after. This is a really big one.
Isaiah is a really great captain. There's a few things
that happen, a bit of a knock on all the
rest of Isaiah goes for the challenge and we get
the penalty. This time Crichton gets the early. We give
(24:01):
Crichton the ball early, he goes over and scores. Yeah,
you know, and so it's like you can see Queensland
stat slip. Yeah, well what they've done. They've lost their
nerve with fifteen minutes to go.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, Well, like you said, in that first half, the
halves went so deep into the line, particularly on Crichton's side.
They gave Crichton a couple of times and the winger
come out and jammed on him one time. He dropped it.
The other time he tapped it onto Lomax. But the
two deadliest players on our on Nisowl site, Crichton and
Latrelle Mitchell, who you want to get the footy in
their hands close to the line. We didn't give them
any opportunity in that first half and it was tough,
(24:39):
I understand that. But then that second half they shifted completely.
They knew what they had to do. They find Latrell,
he finds t and then that second one beautifully, Dylan
Edwards doesn't catch try to draw anyone, he just catches
and give it to him because you know, the last
thing that Valentine Holmes wants as a center is for
Krichton to have time to use his strengths because he's
fanned and his footwork. And then even the next try
(24:59):
after that same thing, Latrell gets it early and sets
up to again.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It does gets along and that comes with the fact
that this time we kicked early through leuy and it
wasn't great. It was a bit of a blood drive kick.
It was sort of an attempted banana but hammer knocks
it on. Yeah, yeah, and all a sudd this is
where you're going, mate, They're under the pump twenty six forteen,
I think might have been that one that Lomac's hit
(25:25):
the postal the one before. Yeah, that's really that's the tough.
At the time, I thought to himself, that's a costly one. Yeah,
to be twenty six sixteen as opposed to twenty six fourteen,
it sounds like nothing, but it is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, And it's not just the confidence it gives me
so well, like letting people know when you're a player
out there, you're actually looking up at the scoreboard and
you're kind of doing the math, like you know, how
many tries do we need? YadA YadA, but the confidence
that it also gives Queensland as in terms of breathing
room as a defense, they go, all right, sweet, don't worry, boys,
we're still up by eight. Need two tries, Like we
(26:02):
can still manage this game. But if they go, if
Queen's then to kicking off and they go, they're only
one try away from tying this game, we're in deep shit.
Like it is. It's such a psychological battle.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And well, at this point, Coops, you as you said,
psychological battle, Queen's Land come up with another era. We're
not long ago, and this time blue Eye puts this
in position coop for another attacking kid drops on his
left again and we score.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah that was now.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Now it's twenty six, twenty four. We're not long ago
and make Queensland on skates.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, he we.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
But I'll tell you what coops the gods of rugby
league and I've seen this a million times now, big
note of myself here, even when we're on the attack
in the last minute, what did I say?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't remember what you said because you were in
your mate's place.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, now, well I text you and I said you
text me and went, wow, we're going to snatch this
and I said we won't because we don't just deserve
to win. I cannot tell you how many times that
I have seen games and I've thought to myself like
(27:10):
we're going to snatch it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But he called me.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
He called me and he told me your memories.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He's pretty drunk. I've been listening to him trying to talk.
He's slurring like half of his work.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sorry, you've drifting.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He texts me with like two and a half minutes ago,
saying I've seen this a thousand times.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
New South Wales don't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Score okay, because we don't deserve to win. Yeah right,
we've been undisciplined. Turn me, back down, turn down money,
I say, like a bit of respect. I'm not slurring.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We'll throw it out to the listeners. I'm sitting here
trying to understand. Have you and you can't read your notes?
You're trailing okay, people know you, I will say, still
some beautiful gold coming out of your brain. It's just
hard to.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Get from their last listeners. You ask anyone and any
other person that critiques this game if they've done a
had a job than me.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, No, you're an ex fucking.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah. Last five minutes. We attack all the time. But
the bottom line is Queensland have got the desperation. At
the end of the day, all they got to do
is to defend these last couple of sets and they get
they get, they get defenders there and they held us
out and the end that we just.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
We didn't deserve it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
We got beat in the penalty count ten two coops
and has said before excuse me burping in the mocrophone.
As I said before, people will look and go blow
up and go ten to Ashley Klimb, it deserved to
be ten too. We were really undisciplined, tend to regardless,
(28:41):
we lost all those conversions. At the very essence, the
gods of rugby league, Queensland won because we didn't deserve.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And I'll tell you what, I tipped my hat like
I tip my hat the News well for their comeback,
and I also tipped my hat to Queensland for their
ability to defend that second half because they were We
haven't touched enough on how shit they actually played that
second half, because that last fifteen minutes, every time they
got the footy they made an error, like they didn't
complete a set for that last twenty minutes a lot
of the time. And you just saw the Queensland in
(29:13):
Game one when they were defending the last five minutes
on their line. We gave them a couple six agains.
They're going they go on that game. One side wouldn't
have they wouldn't have held out. And you said, well,
it was in that sense, but you saw the desperation,
You saw how much it meant to them. They turned
us away about three or four times to seal the game.
Credit to them, they did a bloody good job. Queens
(29:33):
Like Laurel will go away.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Tonight and look at the tape him belly ache and
go what the fuck happened for us to be six
in a lap end up twenty six six? When you
go through and it's if you're a.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Coach, If you're a coach, do you take given that
the penalty count was ten two and it was a
lot of their fault, do you take confidence out of
that though? Do you take confidence in knowing next time
we go into camp focusing on being disciplined and they
couldn't play much worse that first half. Do you take
confidence going into game three as New.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So Wales or say this coup? Well, you've got to
be confident as a coach. As if I to talk
about it neutral, I would say New South Wales weren't
good in game one, weren't great, We're good six Queensland
were bad, Yeah, one of their worst performances and they
come out and win in game two. In game two
(30:28):
we were ill disciplined costers, but we were as far
as discipline, we were poor. Yeah, And so it's not
about confidence, coup, it's just about performance in game three
And I he belly say this all the time. It's
true New South Wales whatever our game is, whatever our
(30:51):
tactics are. We have to get our game on. That's
what it is. The beauty one one. The NRL will
love it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh mate, I'm excited that it's going to a tiebreak.
I hate dead rubbers, But like I said, you just
sort of touched on Game one. New so Will's probably
played good for about fifty minutes of it. Queensland played
bad for about seventy minutes of it. This game it
was forty and forty. Queensland played out standing for the
first half, so Well's played shit. Just Well's played outstanding
for the second half, Queensland paid bad. It's all shaping
(31:24):
up for game three. It'd be awesome to see two
teams Queensland New so Wales come in both put eighty
minute performances together where they're both at the top like
some of the origins we're seeing in the past, and
just see who comes out on top.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's going to be very interesting coop to see how
bad Nathan's hamstring is and if he can go into
game three well. It'd be frustrating for Nathan because this
was to be Nathan's series and for this second one
to go in with the hamstring and it's funny going
into the build up of the game, Likely said about Munster,
like Munster walked out and you could see he was like,
(31:56):
you know, it was beautiful hair that he's just sort
of got. Maybe I know what that's all about. And
and when watching the news when they go to Nathan,
he just looked not quite right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Like hamstring injuries, it's in effect. You don't want to
say how much it affects your confidence, like it's it's
it's actually such a debilitating injury, like.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I did about eight hamstrings. I was known before I
did hamstrings as the Usain Bolt of Newcastle. And then
it just robbed me in my speed, my first foot,
my first step, quickness, I could have.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Been well, you kept saying, you know, you played state
of orision on the wing.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So what about that? I know how something it is
all these people got injured and Tommy threw me on
the wing and I'm standing there and Kenny McGuinness was
on the inside of me, and I'm marking Wendell and
I said, fucking can he swiping? He guess I'm not
marking him no.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Other way. Specialist wingers couldn't even Mark Wendall let alone
subpar five.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Wendell was sledge me relentlessly.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm going to pull you up there because you just said.
Someone chimed in and said that you said that you
were the one that said, yeah, turn me down.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
He doesn't, but didn't someone reach out on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Somebody commented on our video saying, I can't believe this.
F Wick played State of Origin for the Blues. They did. Yeah,
I didn't tell you that at the time because they
want to bring the confidence down. Sorry, hey, defend me
before I did. I commented back. I said, mate, never
listen to our podcast again. Three two ones for the game.
As we wrap up.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, special mention Val Holmes, Harry with his flow, Bryan
tut Well Bran three tries like yeah, he was incredible.
He could almost get the three points. Brian, he could
over two hundred moons, just about run. He was one
hundred and eighty. Was a bit tender. Three tries. I
(33:58):
mean it could be mean at the match. Look, I've
gone three months.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Modern a wally to Kurt KWill he was really good.
Kate Will mate as an old saying coop an old
dog for a hard road. When you need the job done.
You pick the old veteran and he'll get it done.
And last week we're talking to Looke Metcalf. He came
(34:25):
in two weeks ago on the Show and the Warriors
and we're talking about the te him and he says
at times Andrew Webster will say to Kurt, I need
you defend Senna, and Kurt will go, oh fucking hell, Webby,
fucking mate, come on, and he goes, mate, I just
need you to be there because everywhere you play you excel,
(34:46):
and I need you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
To He just gets the job done. He actually does
just get there. Was there was a real big moment
for me. Kirk paynehas charged at him in the first
half and Kurt Kate Well just went whack and hit
him right underneath the ribs and put him on his back,
which you didn't see once in game one. So shout
out of the capes.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Back of the Week one. I'll split between Bran Toto
and pain Paint Hats again, Paint Hassles going in game three.
If New South Wales win the series, he's got to
be he's got to be a man of the series.
Gett Metal.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
We'll see my one. I like to start low, you did,
Harry Grant. I thought Harrison was outstanding, particularly the.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
First half with his You don't need to keep giving
your boyfriend points.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean, seriously, go on, it's right keep interrupting Harry
Grant with his attack, outstanding quick play the balls, but
mainly his defense. I think the first first game they
found him out a lot, try to spot him up
through the middle. This time he showed up, did excellent
with his defense. Number two Brian Toto, I thought, probably
the best on the field for New South Wales in
my opinion, can finish sometimes even when there's a lot
(35:52):
of cover defense. A lot of wingers won't finish half
the tries of the Bizzer finishes. He just is so
hard to tackle inside that five meters. And then number three,
I think everyone's out of the match. Moneyman monster. Here
comes the money chet out the Mondog, horrendous hairline.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But nonetheless getting the old widow's peak.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's a dad now matiple threat spitting them out.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Time to be able to sect me month right, Buddy,
good on your man, love the game, Bring on the
bring on the decider.
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