Sharks Sink Raiders & Panthers Maul the Dogs | Finals Week 2 Review + Fletch & Hindy - Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, Welcome to the review, Ladies and gentlemen. We're up
to the ground file and qualifiers, but well, a couple
of big games this. Firstly, we're going to talk about
the Sharks and the Raiders. Before we do it, Cooplet's
just disclose why you're looking a little bit shady or
a little bit creepy. Well, you watched the game here

(00:20):
last night, and then the ras man, the ras men
came out of his our garage and said to Coop
bar mate, there's one or two of the boys down
the Coloroid, and you went down there. Next thing you know,
you strolling at seven thirty this morning. Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Is that something you would congratulate your son on.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, I'm all for having a good time, brother. Where'd
you go? Where'd you finish up at?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I don't I don't even want to talk about it.
You don't want to know, Okay, I don't want to
the less detail.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't to criminate yourself.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, no, no, no, not that I did anything criminally wrong,
but I just I just prefer not to probably disclose
sort of. Yeah, I'm just not proud of it. I'm
not proud of.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Myself trying to legitude should we do a rhyme? Should
we have a guest? We asked the maybe the listeners
to chip in what they believe might have What happened.
Did we're thrown out of anywhere? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Nah, no no, no, let's just let's let's let's let
sleeping dogs lie. Yeah, let's just not do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well. Thirty to twelve, Sharky's over the Raiders. I want
to talk about the lead up to the game. Firstly, Coop,
and the first thing was Ethan Strange ruled out influenza
two A. Sorry to ab. There's so many letters and
numbers going around A Titus C B A.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I know, it's so many different strains.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, anyway, he must have got the bad one because
he's a tough kid, and they recoon it the Captain's run.
He's started feel a little bit crooked, and then woke
up yesterday morning and literally couldn't get out of bed.
They caught the doctor and he said there is no
way you should play health wise. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
They said it was like an actual risk to his health. Like, yeah,
so I never really heard that before.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Whereas if you have sort of.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That flu or influence that people play through it, you
can scale your heart, yeah, but it's actually bad like
you can have long term impact well too.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
He was such a loss because he's their vibe. He
brings the energy Ethan and so there was a side
that was already a little bit on the ropes, a
little bit tired. We anticipated that going to take them
a little bit to get up emotionally and to loser
key player like that just takes the edge off a
little bit more going into the game. Raiders were very
quite leading into the game. You know, the only thing

(02:30):
they ever heard was then probably fending off questions about
the previous Sunday's loss and how it would affect them
and affect their energy. They sort of that was about
the only talking point you heard the Raiders talk about.
They sort of kept things under wraps. Sharks have totally
changed their ways the last two week. Sharks have really

(02:51):
talked tough, mate, They've been right up on their toes.
They've been really aggressive going into these games, and I
love it the Sharks. To me, every side has an identity.
But I think about Melbourne, I go a professionalism discipline.
When I think about the Panthers, I think mate, precision.
When I think about the Sharks, I think nice guys,

(03:13):
that's the first come to mind. But the last two weeks, mate,
they've got rid of that persona. They've actually got a
little bit of shit on their liver. They've talked a
big going into games and they've backed it up. I
love it.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I think and Ronaldo has been the He's been
the forefront of that. He's done his whole life, let alone.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
This year, but Nico last.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But yeah, that's unlike, Yeah, I like, I think a
lot of people I saw I was watching like NL
three sixty and stuff during the week and some of
the journals were a little bit you know, you don't
you haven't earned the right to be respected yet because
until you go down to Canberra and beat Camber in camera. Yeah,
but yeah, that's yeah. But I thought that was pretty

(03:54):
tough call. And I think it's for Nicko to put
himself in that firing line because if he goes out
there and plays a bad game, you know this weekend,
that comes back to bite him in a big way.
I think.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
But its performs the last two years.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think I think since he's dally m year, it's
been his best performance. But yeah, I think I think
putting himself out there to be It's almost a bit
of self accountability. I think, ye like forcing themselves. It
doesn't give him any other option.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Really.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
They've sort of sat back in the media. Niko has
particularly this year at times. But I think when you
go out in front of the cameras and throw, you know,
say that like we want to be respected, YadA YadA,
it forces leading into the game to be so precise
with your preparation because he knows that if he goes
out there and has a bad game, that he's going

(04:46):
to get publicly criticized.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I just find it strange that people would say that, oh,
you know, what are they doing talking up? You don't
do that. They haven't earned the right. Hang on a second, mate,
you're going down and win it. You're going down to
win finals match. You don't want to go down meek
and mild with your cap in hand, going oh you know,
and tippy toe on and playing on eggshells, playing nervous.
Make you get into them, get on the front foot.

(05:08):
It's a mind game. Yeah, it's a mind game. They
saw a Canber side that was a little bit on
the ropes and vulnerable after what happened the previous Sunday
and they went from.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, because I watched that. I watched Ricky and Joe
Tarpei in the press conference and they got asked that
did that loss sort of affect you guys? And they
were pretty strong on No. We came in Tuesday and
we left it all. But you could tell to yeah,
because that first twenty minutes they were strong, they like
and Sharks matched them physically and you know, there wasn't

(05:40):
a try until twenty minutes in, but you could tell
at that back end of the game that fatigue, just
the fatigue of that game. And last week it just
got to them because some of the tries that were
scored quite quite easy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
We'll map the game in a second coup. I just
want to talk firstly about the late season surge from
the Sharks, because all year they've been so so would
you say that, like, yeah, how the shows, Oh yeah,
they're hard to get a read on, sign under the
radar bit. But this late season surge, and I'll tell
you what it is, mate. They've got firstly, a really
powerful yardage combination there which is formed and it's Ronaldo

(06:15):
and Naden Faniel Blake. Ronaldo gets some going on early tackles,
Fanel Blake finishes set off, gets Trendle and Nico into
attack position or just at least time to get that
kick away second one. This is huge. The key creative
players have found, not just top four, they have finally
found combination. Trendle, Nicko and Brayley. They're understanding their own strengths.

(06:41):
They're understanding the strengths of the blokes they're playing alongside
and how to compliment those strengths. The three of those
guys last night, how they operate in combination was fantastic.
I love the fact that Nico and Trendle combined numerous
times to make breaks and score tries. That's how Harps
should play as a combination, So I thought that was
good and to coop the other one. They've just got

(07:02):
great back rowers, mate, They're their back rowers were mighty
last night. But I don't know any side in the
competition that relies on their back rowers more than the Sharks,
because the Sharks do have a tendency to just drift
sideways a little bit. Nikera Wilton burns. Mate, they straighten
with those aggressive straight runs and last night they were

(07:23):
tremendous and when you're I'm talking about attack here, but
when when you're a tax on song and you're starting
to swagger because you're a tax going good, it gives
you the motivation to defend your ourself. I'd see that
withsides who struggled at school points. Eventually the pressure of
that just counsel on their defense. But when you can

(07:44):
score points and you've got a bit of that arrogance
about you, mate, you want to defend.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, And you can see. We're going to talk about
some of the actual tries in a minute, but their
identity that we spoke about last week as well, the
ability to play off quick play the balls and ad
lib footy now yep, Like the years before their knocks
sort of been they set up for these big, long
shifts and plays and they kind of get shut down

(08:11):
and red like because people prepare for that during the week.
It's very easy to prepare for plays and that sort
of predictable stuff. But the tries that they scored in
yesterday's game against Canberra, ninety percent of them I think
everyone one was off a play where Nico hits Malatalo
gets it out the back of a block, yep. But
the rest of them were all add lib footy great,

(08:32):
like that Nico goes down, puts kale Ero through on
a line break and then fifth tackle Trindle gets it,
fifth tackle shapes to kick, flicks Nico under and then
Nico scores like and then.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, a lot of times they're little structured sequences made
the break and their ability to react off that game
the tries.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, yeah, I just thought it was good. It was
a good It's a good visual for them going Melbourne
next week to play against the storm of how they
need to play their footage yep, because you're not gonna
Melbourne is so precise with video sessions and how to
shut down key players and they'll know what players that
they like, every individual's favorite foot to step off and

(09:14):
shit like that. The only thing that they can't prepare
for is the footy that they just played against Cambros yep.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
The ability to someone to watch spots something and sense
of vulnerability send someone looks a little bit tired, defensive
patterns or defensive defense lines not in order. There's something missing,
that's the stuff that's hard to defend. And what has
to find this final series so far, in my opinion,
is I can't remember a final series where it's almost

(09:41):
like every error is getting punished badly, whether it be
sustained possessions for the side who you know who they surrender, sorry,
sustained possession to the opposition. But the seven tackle sense
a really big one. Seven tackle sets are always costly,
but this final series really have been and it's the

(10:02):
eras that errors that have killed Canbra Canbra in this game, Coop.
They looked physically, you could see, mate, You could see it.
Just the more that Cronulla had the ball, the closer
you could see Canbra getting to hitting the wall. And

(10:22):
in the second half that try the Billy Burns scored. Yeah,
where he wandered up to the line and given the
context of the importance of the game and the fact
that it was twelve all at the time, it was
a soft try, but it was a fatigue try. He
just went through a defense line that had that had
hit the wall. They're wobbling and although it was only
eight and twelve at that point you're going, well, the
game is still a beout. It wasn't. You could see

(10:44):
it with your eye. Canbra were done at that point.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, and you just said fatigue try I think every try,
I would say probably every tie, including Raiders. That first
trie with Corey Harse were scored.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think that first twenty minutes was so physical, so
such a big arm wrestle that nearly every try after
that was just a fatigue try. And that's why you
saw a lot of players be put on because they
get quick play the balls and then they'd have ad
lib footy and then like that Horse per try, he
had three or four blokes around him and then.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, well let's let's talk about that. Let's map the
game here. And what was interesting My first observation of
the game coup in the first ten minutes went, well,
Jamal Foggerty's nervous. Yeah, like he's he's Jamal. You know,
winning a competition is just so much. It's as much
about injuries and formers timing, you know, timing your run perfectly,

(11:37):
and who knows where confidence goes? Sometimes confidence comes and
confidence goes sometimes a bit of a mystery. And you know,
the last last week was tough on Jamal, but you've
just seen how that's impacted him. A little dip, his
little dip in confidence there. Yeah, and you saw like
he was like that last week as well. It was
a bit off last week. He had some uncharacteristic errors

(11:59):
against the Bronco. Was like there was the you know,
some poor kicks from him as well, which kicking game
has been his bread and butter his whole career. Yeah,
and he's that's what's really you know, been so pivotal
in that Raiders. But then he also got tackled on
fifth tackle a couple of times, which is very unlike
him because he.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Does all the kicking. Because with Strange being there and
then you know, Ethan Strange not being there, I think
I think it was just a little bit too much
for him because Simmy saying who Jack played with the
Newcastle he actually played quite well.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I thought he was probably the Raiders' best player.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, which is bizarre because you know he's playing five eight,
which is is a bit foreign for him. But that
was because I think they kind of used him as
a little bit of a forward, like as a runner. Yeah,
there was he made a clean line break at one stage,
just taking on inside a Well.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's funny the first try that you said up at
the Harsbery try and they led six snil and I've
said about the Raiders errors killed him. All that one
was Cronulla. When I saw what happened. I'll talk about
the mistake in a minute. I actually thought about the
week before Tanner Boyd not putting the kickout, where you're
given an opportunity and you blow it through an unforgivable error,
and that one was Jesse Raymian, like Caronulla had three

(13:13):
sets in a raw. They're attacking their line, they got
they've got an attacking scrum and you're going, you can
see the Raiders they're already mate that they're not defending
with the same sort of energy they had through the year.
And Jesse just drops the ball cold from the scrum
and I've gone, man, that's it, you know, that's that's
an unforgivable error there. And then what happens Camber make

(13:34):
their way down the field and Corey Hallsbrough schools. It
just shows you, you know, the effect that errors and
particularly those really soft errors, those unforced errors, and how
much that hurts you. And so it was when I
look at the game Coup Sharks sorry, Raiders led six

(13:57):
about twenty minutes into the game. But anytime, one of
the things I saw anytime that the Sharks had sustained possession,
like back to back sets or kept the ball for
a few minutes, Mate, you could see how weary, You
could really see how weary the Raiders would get very
very quickly. And that was a cue for what was
going to happen later. But in the lead up to
in the lead up to the Sharks first try to
make him sixty six, it was it was sameras from

(14:19):
the Raiders and it was a poor kick, you know,
you could you could see at that point it was
a really poor kick. They weren't doing the fundamentals right
and it got to the point they just you know,
they couldn't absorb the pressure they were putting themselves under.
And that that try come about could if you go
back and wats their first try try and it again
they attacked that problematic right side defense from the Raiders.

(14:42):
But I don't in a lot of ways, I don't
blame the outside man entirely for it. I'll tell you
what happened when you go back and have a look
at it. The middleman, including Corey Horsebert, they don't really
get up, they sit and so fo he leads the
line up and he realizes, mate, they've not come they've
not really come up, not a square with him. So
what happens is he actually squeezes in just a little

(15:04):
bit and he just goes in and tries to protect
the inside men just a little bit. He squeezes slightly,
and the outside men squeeze in dramatically, and Ronaldo just scores.
There wasn't anyone within ten to fifteen meters of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
But you talk about the front rowers and the middles
not putting pressure on the half coming out and put helping,
because that's letting people know that's that's as a half
when you when you're attacking the try line, Like there's
just the good sides and the good front rowers when
they're fresh, they come out and put so much inside
pressure on you as a half. That's right, And I

(15:40):
think that's just a byproduct of that first twenty minutes.
There was so much fatigue, Yeah, so much ball in
play that that's where you saw those fatigue easy tries
because foggedy, which it's easy to say, oh, you squeezed
in and do that, but like when you look at
it as an edge, what the defensive system is, he
actually did his role because halves are told and centers

(16:03):
and wingers to protect your inside shoulder. Ye, when a
half goes deep that center and we are told to jam,
they just yeah, I mean they just missed it by
half a second.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But Nico, I do think outside defenders these days too much.
They just race him blindly. Just if you're my inside man.
Just because you make a defensive era, it doesn't mean
I should jump into the fire as well. You know,
I should have the ability to sit and try to
solve it, break out of that defensive system. But it's
funny Sharks suit scored soon after. And if we're talking
about the combination, how Nico and Trendle have finally formed

(16:35):
combination and understanding their roles. I reckon this is the
best example this try and as you said, they attack
down that left hand edge again, the attacking the Raiders
right side defense, and they do a nice little player.
I think. I think it's Trindle that tells why looks
in out the back to Niko and it just disorientates
the defense and the row makes his way down. Next play,

(16:56):
Trindle gets the ball, as you said, just wanders across
the field, wanders holds the ball. Nice little bit of
Finesse inside flick pass, they combine again. Nico scores next
to the post, and it just shows you the roles.
Trendle organize and Finesse, Nico react and run. They've found
their roles. I agree.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I think it's the best that they've combined since they've
been since Moylan left and Tricky Trendle has come into
that side. I think it's the best combination game that
they've ever had together because they linked. They linked so
well together. What you want in your opposite half. Like
when Trendle gets it on fifth tackle and takes off
like that, It'd be easy for Nico to stand back

(17:35):
call for it because it's fifth tackle, right, Like, Nico's
role is to call for it and kick for the
kick for that right winger. But he sees an opportunity
where Tricky has taken off, and rather than sit back
and call for it or just leave Tricky on his own,
he reacts and combines, drops whatever he's doing and just
punch it. Looks to push with him, drops under him,
and then.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Scores a try. Yeah and Coop. Halftime comes right at
the right time for Camebra because Sharks have gone try
try and like sound like a broken record. You can
see them start at really starting fits. They're struggling in defense,
and after halftime they have a really good period with
the Raiders. It's our last good period in the game.
And so the scores twelve to six, they're down. It's

(18:16):
the Sharks. A poor kick from the Sharks which allows
cambrid to wander downfield. Susagi scores to try, but I
guess just allowed Huts and young Steins in the line.
Fair decision. But the next set of next set or two,
they've still got field position and Tamala scores to make
a twelve all and at that point you're going, I'm looking, go, well, okay, okay,

(18:39):
they've rested up at halftime, they've got themselves back in
the game. It's twelve twelve games in the balance. But
then mate, midway midway through that that second half coup,
the Billy Burns try, and this was this was the
curtain being drawn on the Raiders season. They've been doing
a bit of defense. I mean, you know, they've been
holding them out, hanging in there. But Burns gets the

(19:02):
ball and just as I said, wanders and just wanders
through and scores. It's you know, eighteen twelve after the conversion,
effectively the game still you know, it's in the balance still,
but it isn't you see, right Raiders at that point Yeah,
after that, the Sharks start to do whatever they want
with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, and I think I think a good sort of
visual and sign of the Raiders mentality in this game
was and it wasn't by lack of effort and stuff
like that. I think it was just a big, big
week and a lot of fatigue. But yeh, tricky Bradon
Trindle puts up a torpedo. They let it bounce, you know,

(19:40):
and unfortunate circumstances, you know, I think Weeks or Foggty
someone hits it backward and Arro's there to pick it
up and score under the post, which is a very
unfortunate try. And people say it's lucky. But when you
freeze frame it. When that ball hits the ground, there's
two Raiders jerseys there. Yeah, I think it's Stewart and Weeks,

(20:01):
and I think there's by the time that ball bounces
it's in the air, there's about four Yeah, there's a
four Shark players, right, yeah, yeah, and that's I look
at that. I remember looking at that last night and
I was for me that epitomizes the mentality of teams.
So that's I think it's a good indication of their
effort in their mindset at the time, because the hardier work,

(20:24):
the luckier gae yep, and then jumped that down.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's leading up that try, coop like it
says a lot where cameras for that shirt. Yeah, putting
on a T shirt and well, actually was in the
nice we have it on our backs. Harder I work
like you, I get did you Yeah? Yeah, for sure,
I didn't get lucky, but then it got it worth
that hard either. But leading into that try is it's
twenty to twelve because Brawley does the step before did

(20:49):
a scoop pick it up? They got a penalty made
of twenty to twelve. Yeah, but twenty to twelve. For
all the spectators at the ground, they're still saying it's
game on. But when you're in that situation, you know
your self and your team's under the gun, you know
you can understand the circumstances you find yourself in. And
with the Raiders, this is where they started to lose.

(21:11):
This is where they start to fall. The bits because
Foggedy's sensors. Mate, we need something. They are only about
forty meters out in their own line. He does an
attacking bomb, A poor attacking bomb. Mate. The Sharks pick
it up and just get it in their own forty
two or three plays later, as you said, they're in
an attack position. Trindle puts up the talk per bomb. They
let a bounce and bounces back and they score twenty

(21:33):
six twelve and that's all over and again that fuel position,
the position they found themselves in to put the attacking
kick was becurse of Canbra, it was course of Canber. Mentally,
they just lost their way. They just lost all composure.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
How do you see like when you look back at
the raid of season, they obviously performed like this game aside,
right and last week aside. They've had an amazing season
where they've over they've probably exceeded expectations. A lot of
people gave them wouldn't chance, the wouldn't spoon. They proved
everyone wrong. Do you look back at their season now

(22:10):
and think that potentially, I don't want to say they
played their grand final during the year to get to
the minor premiership, but do you think they put so
much emphasis all year on proving people wrong because they
so many people said the Wooden spoon and shit that
when they got to Finals footy, it was like they
were fatigued from just such a larger year.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I just think I think what popped the blurm on
their season was that was that last forty and it's
a regular time against the Broncos. Because they were playing
great football there, you know, it wasn't as they went
into their game and suddenly you know, they were terrible,
and you know, and you know, they basically cut their
own throats in the game. Their biggest crime was there

(22:55):
they just stopped playing and they didn't. I'm not going
to say did they learn their lesson? Well, it's hard
to know because they weren't in that position again. They'll
learn their lesson going forward. This final series would be
fantastic for some of those young blokes, as like, it
hurts like hell now, but as far as experience and
knowing what to do next, it's going to be invaluable.

(23:16):
A couple of things for aside that was had such
an incredible regular season, they lost their last three games.
I wonder sometimes with Ricky, I wonder if I wonder
if he regrets resting all those blokes that last game
against Dolphins, because you know, because okay, they had they
had had all the young guys in with Corey Halls

(23:39):
were one or two other guys, but it was all
the young guys. They rested all their stars, and you go, okay,
you know, you take their willing to take a loss.
But at the time, I was watching Ricky on the sideline,
you know, when we went past fifty points on the
school board, I'm thinking, I know all these stars aren't
out there, but is this just causing a little bit
of damage, you know what I mean to.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Psyche to the momentum at the moment.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Then they went in the week after and they get
beat by the Broncos, and it's a really funny thing. Coops.
You know, there's so many things as far as timing,
concern timing, as far as injuries, playing your best football,
but also mate, you know yourself, sometimes you get to
the end of a year and you can be playing
great for whatever reason, just for two gets in everyone's bones.

(24:24):
Did you get that?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I agree?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We were in a like this is comparing to Queensland
Cup level here, so you know's bear with me, but
we were in the same position a queens and Cut
where we won the minor premiership. At the Falcons, we
had red outside, but we went sort of we lost
our last game leading into finals, and then we lost
week one of finals. Jade managed to get our way

(24:49):
to prelim and then got beat again. Like we we
lost one game all year and then the last and
then two games in finals. Right yeah, yeah, so that was,
you know, a little bit different to Raiders. But I
found that and chatting to a few of the boys
in that side upon reviewing it, it was, like you said,
timing and peaking at the right time. I think we

(25:10):
peaked sort of when other teams were a bit down.
And when you're at the when you're at the top
during the year, it's very hard to get better. It's
very hard to review yourself and get better. I think
this is where the Raid and I was. I sort
of said it leading the finals for the Raiders, I
didn't know if they had another year in finals, right

(25:32):
because all the other teams who finished below them, they're
reviewing them, they're taking aspects of their game and they're
making sure that they get better and they're peaking into finals.
But I didn't think, you know, like when you peak
during the year, how you know and get better, if
that makes.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Sense, It's very hard to sustainable year. We were a
similar thing in ninety eight. In ninety eight we were
joint Minor Premiers with the Broncos. But I started recognizing
that the back end of that regular season, I think
picking up injuries. You know, it wasn't the same zest training.
Everyone's getting a bit tied and we get zest, you know,
zest for laugh, zes for training. And we went in

(26:12):
the first week at the finals. We had the first
week off, sorry because US and the Broncos played the
second week against the Roosters. We've bitten him sixteen all
at half time and they burat us at home first
week the final. So we're to play the Dogs the
next week the Sydney Football Stadium. Guess what happens. We're
leading the Dogs eighteen points at halftime. Guess what. They
run us down and boat us extra time. It was

(26:33):
like we just whether it be mental or physical, we
just hit the wall. We just hit the wall at
the wrong time. I think Ricky, I think Ricky in
time will look back at this season with so much
with a lot of joy, and you know, for him
it was it was a great season. I think it's
his best ever coaching season. And I think he looks
back at that when he looks back at the run

(26:53):
that the players had, the way that young guys have
come on, the re emergence of the Green Machine, the
home crowd, the way the community behind them, and the
other thing seeing your son come into the team and
excel like like okay, sometimes there's more to it than
just trophies. And I think as much as if you're
hurting right now, I think in time, you'll look back

(27:14):
at this season be really proud.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Do you think he gets daim Coach of the Year.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Do, I do. I do. Let's tell what we're going
to do now, coops, we are I'm about to go
into work right of course, it's about to be the
Panthers up against the dogs. I believe it full time.
You guys are going to give me a call.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yes, because you know we usually last week you come
home after and we film after the show. But you're
going out for dinner with Fletch and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
We fletching the boys. Yeah, so I'll trist said to
me what time to expect me? Will you be late?
So I said, defined late and she said late is anything?
Say around past midnight, about one o'clock And I said,
I'll be lateish.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
See if you can do one not me?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, I don't think seven am. No, No, those days
are long, long behind me. All that ha. A bit
a month ago, I got home as you were going
to work so full thirty. Who knows. Let's do it again, brother, Let's.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Run it back. I'll speak to you soon, boys, and
welcome back to the same episode. We're back once again
this morning. We obviously got up early to review the
Canberra versus Who do Cambra play? Yesterday?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Jack Sharky?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
They played the Sharkies. We got up early to review that.
To the listeners who are still listening to this episode,
I want to apologize. I had and a lot of
people resonate with this. I was very hungover and I
could not articulate a sentence together, let alone. I knew
what I wanted to say, Jack, but it just couldn't

(28:41):
go from my brain to my mouth. Do you think
that's fair?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, I just had to look at it before. You
don't look well, it looks like you just got up
out of bed.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
To be fair, I had, I'd had a couple of
hours sleep and then obviously we had to do it
before Dad headed into studio to watch the game in there.
I have rested since, so you should see a more
well hydrated, more articulate version of me. But Jack and
I have sat down. We just watched the Penrith Verse
Bulldogs game. Just first, Jack off the top two mad

(29:08):
fan bases. How good was the atmosphere out there? And
did you see the videos of the Bulldogs walking from
their hotel to the stadium as well?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, it was unreal. Just to let people know too,
we've got Matthew ringing in soon in any minute. But yeah,
it looked incredible the crowd, especially when Galvin scored that
try just sort of bring him closer to the Penrith
Panthers after they got away with a good start. Geez,
it looked like the crowd was going off out there.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, those Doggies fans are there. I mean, obviously they
hung in there right until the end of the fans
because imagine would have been pretty hard. They would have
wanted to leave quite early, but they were so vocal
the whole time, and it actually makes you want to
play for the Dogs in that sense. I reckon. Yeah,
they've got such a sick fan base.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
They do, and they look like they're a fan base
much like the Newcastle supporters. They look like they really
enjoy watching them team, you know, do effort things, not
just do like the you know, spontaneous, great attacking stuff.
They love watching their team, you know, Bash do the
nitty gritty stuff. You know, players like Salmon men, Salmon, Salmon, Salmon,

(30:14):
the gutter dog. He's become slowly my favorite player, some
of that sort of stuff. Like you can see their
fans really they enjoy watching it. They like that style
of football, which is actually really good to see the
energy resonate off the fans.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, and and just quietly as well. Obviously Penrith are
too good today. They were unbelievable, probably one of the
one of their I think it was their best performance
of the whole year so far. They're peaking right at
the right time. But we do have a new addition
to the studio here. We've got a picture that Jack
has found. It is the Canniby Bulldogs twenty four team.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I believe Jack, Yeah, you would have seen it in
the first part, it would have been in the back corner. Actually,
I'll blow it up for yours so you can see
it in the YouTube. But it's a photo photo is it?
Two thousand and four?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I believe photo.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
You're all the old boys in there, and then in
the left corner you've got Reggie Boy and there should
be a little like if you if you see it,
I'll blow it up for you. It should say middle
row on the left, Red Reagan in brackets Motivational Health
and Fitness coordinator. So that was Actually that's a fair
bit of a laugh for the dogs back in the
day because I thought teams took things a bit more
serious when it comes to those big games.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I don't reckon they did because I remember Dad, don't
Dad had so much access as Red Reagan to a
lot of teams in a sanctum. I feel like we
just said it around.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
You would just say that reg had more access than Matthew.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But I think because they knew they weren't going to
like how do I put this, They weren't going.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
To get grilled.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
They weren't going to get grilled Like you see people,
they're very protective of the inner sanctum now, like you
don't really see too much of you know, like your
Red Wagan's whether he was one of a kind, there's
not many of him getting around. But you don't really
see those kind of people getting in and around finals
time in the clubs and doing stuff with players and
coaches and shit like they were back then.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, teams get very sick now too. I even remember
the year after I think we were kids when Dad
was doing stuff with the Tigers. Remember we went to
the captain's run for the Grand Final against the Cowboys
and they got all paranoid when a was it a
helicopter or a plane went over the stadium when they
were doing their captains run and they were freaking out.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah they did. We're about to get into the Panrith
first Bulldogs game are But are the stat that I
heard the other day Nathan Cleary has not lost a
day game since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, I don't know how many that would be. I
know they've played. They've just won eight in a row
so this year, so there's eight, so you only get
so many. They might have gone on. They might have
gone on a pretty low run and they're a pretty
good attacking team they like today. How good was their
completion rate early? Like they were relentless, Like they didn't
give They just looked like they absolutely suffocated the Dogs,

(32:48):
even though the Dogs got the first points on the
board in that first twenty minutes, it was Yeah, it
was pretty relentless.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, like that first ten minutes. I didn't think the
Dogs did too much wrong. I thought they were unbelievably
physically they were all over I thought they were actually
really all over Penrith at the start. Do you feel
that as well, particularly like that first set, And we
said this last week they did the same thing against Melbourne.
They come out of the blocks firing, firing, and then

(33:13):
Melbourne kind of absorbed that pressure and counterpunched with after
fifteen minutes when they really took the sting out of Bulldogs.
But the Bulldogs what I love what they did this
week was that first Kickchase. They had a huge Kickchase
did a number on the back three of Penrith. Nathan
goes to kick and then Villie Arma kickow flies out
of the line, kick pressures knocks it down. They get

(33:34):
a penalty to take the two because Dylan Edwards holds him,
but that's how you need to take on Penrith. We've
said this before. It's like they want if you try
to replicate how they try to play and do you know,
like just try to kick pressure, just do do the
same cycles that they do and just try to build
pressure and beat them in the back end of the game.
You're not going to beat them because they're too good

(33:55):
at it. Yeah, that's where you get the upper hand
like that, like little trick play like William kick coming
out and trying to do a charge down.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, incredited kick out too. You could tell from the
get go, even from running out as as captain of
the game, you could see he was up for it.
And even like last ten minutes, last five minutes of
the game when he tackled Liam Martin, he was tackling
that aggressively. You could see that he definitely wasn't going
to die die guessing like he was doing his best
there to try and change the momentum for the for

(34:26):
the Doggies pack.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, and you know what, let's quickly just talk about
what we thought the Dogs did wrong, because like we said,
that start was really good physically, Yeah, what I think
they didn't do enough of and they started to do
it towards the back into the game, but it was
too late. I love when they shift out of their
own end a little bit because that first set they
went boom shift and I found Berdo on the left

(34:48):
hand side who made sort of a half dint. They
looked really fast, played really quick. When fatigue started to
get in, they just like, and I get it happens
because you don't have as many numbers coming back on
the kick chase. But they just went into their shell
and just sort of went Carras up, Brons and Cherry
up just to send people one up, which is still
a good play. They got good ball runners. But when
they started to shift out of that midfield, and you

(35:10):
saw it when Galvin scored, he went down the short side,
little no look short past Jacob Preston, he goes through
Fines Galvin back on the inside. They weren't playing any
footy out of their own end. They were almost just
trying to get one up, one up, one up. And
when you try to do that against Penrith, Penrith are
they're probably they're probably the smartest football side in identifying

(35:32):
what you're doing, so they can pressed right up a
lot of the time. They put about four people into
a lot of the tackles and just drive you back.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
What even I'd even say, like what you were saying earlier,
where where with the Doggies they should have expanded a
bit more. Was Penrith were that relentless like you were
saying identifying I look at that and I thought to myself,
more disciplined, Like they were so disciplined with what they
probably game planned against the Dogs, Like I was watching
out of their end when they were defending after a

(36:01):
kick chase. They were that compressed, like they'd obviously game
planned what the Doggies do. And they've got good outside
backs and not huge blokes, but they run hard, straight
inside a that they just tightened right up. And I
don't think Penrith even let a yardage penalty out until
like the late thirtieth minute, So they spent that first
thirty not making a single error in their defense pretty

(36:23):
much in those tough areas that it just suffocated the Doggies.
I do agree that they probably needed to maybe on
that third tackle shifted a bit more. But then in
the the late of that half, after that penalty, I
remember Kurt Man got it and they were. It might've
been early in the second half Kurt Man got it
and they actually tried to do that, and then whoever
the Taalangy Tallangy's defense was relentless all the game. He

(36:45):
kept jamming in like he got Galvin early, then he
got Burdo. Yeah, yeah, he got Burdo. He just made
like two and forced two errors, forced a pass that
shouldn't have been a pass, and then forced an er
off Burdo. I think it just rattled them earlier in
those early stages.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I agree, and like I'm nitpicking there what the Dogs
could have done or could have kept doing as they
started to try to keep putting more pressure on Penrith.
But I think Penrith beat everyone in the top eight
with how they played today. I thought they were unbelievable,
Like you said, with their defense, they were so aggressive.
I didn't think the Dogs their edges. I didn't think

(37:22):
they were aggressive enough on Penrith. They gave them a
lot of time and you saw a lot of their
tries come off sort of late jams, and then they
got quick hands to Alamodi and Bryan to but t'lungy
really set the standard. I love what he did over
Galvin and Berdo and when they identified the shape, he
gets up gets aggressive force. Two big errors. But I
want to talk to about the penrith first try. I

(37:44):
believe it was and I thought it was. If you
go back to this first try, the first shape that
they run to the right hand side, Nathan goes to
the line, plays out the back they have and they
did it all day. We just said they're set up
on shape was second to none. I don't think I've
watched attacking shades being run with such perfection and precision. Yeah, ever,

(38:09):
as like that, that is an example that every team
and every coach should take.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
You could even see like Shane Elford, their their blue
shirt that was out there they go. He got trouble,
got in trouble earlier in the year. Every time the
ball got to the center, he had his hand up
and was just cheering as if they'd already scored the try.
It's like he's watched it all week at training. I
bet he's just watched them consistently do it day in
day out that he knew by the time he got
to that stage where the winger was open and all

(38:34):
they needed to do was pin their ears back.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
He knew it was going to be a try and
it's such simple fundamentals, but they do it so well,
and under fatigue and under pressure when you have people
flying out like they just so calm. Casey McLean had
a couple of really nice quick hands to Brian to
and even when he's he didn't really get a clean catch,
but still gets to pass away.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, that was the one that he got. He got
some he got some balls behind his right shoulder and
around that quick and somehow got the ball to toe
just to just to let him just do his job
and then pin the years back and you're what I
was like, when you give him an inn, she takes
a mile like he's a great finisher like Alamodi.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Catching and passing. It's like it it's such an easy
thing to say, but unless you unless you've like played
a lot of football and trained day to day, you
don't understand how much of a difference. And even people
at the highest level they can't do it that well.
Like you actually don't realize how many people don't. Aren't

(39:30):
aren't you know, detailed, unfatigued with their passing and then
getting a clean catch. Pendrith do it so well, they're
a couple of their shapes too, were just so nice,
like clearly finding yo in the middle. They had a
lot of real short precision passing, just putting putting people
one on one, Like I thought it was so nice,
and then yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Going to say on that, like on those detail things
for the average partter like they might think. You know,
as an NL player, their job is to you know,
their job is to be great at attacking. A lot
of the reasons a lot of these guys as good
at those little details when they get to NROL levels
because they were so good at it growing up. A
lot of their work in the week to week goes
to the other side of their game, which is the defense.

(40:09):
Some players are taught week in week out that they're
not going to play unless they do their defense. And
sometimes what they can do is they can make their
attack quite scrappy and then you see it. I remember
a couple of years back in twenty twenty one when
we were living with the Panthers and during their period
of their finals campaign up there at Twin Waters during
the COVID year, people were watching the all the coaches

(40:30):
from all the other clubs were like spying on their
training sessions, trying to get a gauge of what they
were doing because they were just so dominant that year.
They reckon. They weren't doing anything like other than the
usual doing what you do in pre season, which is
just doing the basics skills skills skills, getting them that
crisp and then like Shane Elford was doing, he knew
as soon as that ball went out to the center.
It's like he knew every time it was going to

(40:52):
be a try.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, but you did. Like so many clubs in the
NROL don't actually practice the fundamentals because they've got so
much other shit to worry about, Like they might be
worrying about their defense or you know, like the bottom
eight clubs, right, they've got so much stuff to worry about.
You know, they might get a new coach so that
he comes in with a whole new game plan, trying
to teach people moves and a new strategy with their

(41:13):
attack and defense. Then that's what they drill in the preseason.
The beauty of clubs like Penrith, clubs like probably the
Roosters because they've had a consistent coach and Melbourne is
they've got a system that they've had for a decade.
They don't need to change too much. So Penrith, when
those boys come back for preseason, all Ivan and that
have to worry about is getting them fit and then

(41:34):
getting the fundamentals of the game. Their skill. You know,
they're one on one tackling, just very simple things. He
just trains that into them all preseasons so that like
their detail on those little things are so perfect.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Even like a shift, Like they're so consistent every time
they get to a final series, little things like their
discipline in those yardish defensive sets where they're all compressed.
Sometimes some coaches go into those big games and they
think they need to spend half a session drilling it
into players, and what that does is it actually takes
away from the details of their skill, their core skills
and those major things. It's almost like trying to fix

(42:09):
a hole in the boat, but at the same time
another hole is popping up, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
you're hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I felt that Like when I was at Manly, I
used to say the same thing. It was like, oh,
there's so many problems, like whether they off field or
on field. It was like, you've got one band aid?
What do you what do you fucking put it on?
You know what I mean, you're just bleeding out like
you may as well just you know, just abandoned ship.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Well, you you've got two centers on the field. One
center might be having really a problem all week with
this like catch pass, and the other center might be
having a problem with their edge defense. So you know,
you could either train them separately, but a lot of
the time they're going to train opposite each other all
all week long. So what do you focus on one
you're training in one session, you're telling him to focus
on one part of the game. The other one sitting
there listening overhearing it, probably thinking about that rather than

(43:01):
he's supposed to be worrying about his own deficiencies.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, I thought Nathan Cleary was unbelievable today, kicked a
nice forty twenty. But it's just his organization what he
was doing off the ball. You could see he was
just so on today, how straight detail and all the shape.
And we were talking while the game was playing. When
they scored that first try, bryn To own that left corner,
nice shift to the right. It gets fifth tackle, and

(43:25):
we've seen Nathan do this trend to a fair bit
lately Jack where on the fifth tackle he'll sort of
shape to kick and then just throw it like a
sort of a three man cut out ball to one
of his rock forwards. We saw I think last week
he threw it and the rock forward actually just went
straight over and scored. This time, he sort of missed it,

(43:46):
sort of hit the ground. Lindsay Smith picked it up,
found Casey McClain, Casey McLain, finds Brian Totto. But he's
obviously seen a trend in the NRL where if on
fifth tackle, obviously that the edges might not really get
up because they're folding for the kick. They're preparing for
a kick. So he's I love what he's been doing
with it lately, messing with defense because you see it's

(44:08):
it was such an easy try for him.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well a lot of the time to like you think
when you're doing a setup like that, he's like a
lot of the defenders I think they were thinking, either
he's gonna knock it back behind him with all those
lead runners in front of him, all he's going to
try and do a cross kick. I don't even think
when he grabbed got in his hands, not once did
he even look like kicking like he it was almost
like he preempted that he's going to be passing the
ball regardless of you know, what the defense does. It

(44:34):
was Yeah, Yeah, it was pretty It's working for him
at the moment because it's led to two tries two
weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, I thought it was a masterclass. Do you have
a back fence player of the game.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
My back fence player probably The battle between kick Out
and Liam Martin was pretty savage all game. I think
Liam Martin got the better of him, but he did
a few little things. Liam Martin some of his kickchase efforts,
like relentless every time that ball goes up, they were kicking.
Nathan was kicking that right corner all game. He never
gave Connor Tracy or who was the left edge the

(45:04):
jeath throw Jethrow. He never gave him an inch like
he was that solid all day with his kick chase.
It was just suffocated him.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, I had I was going to go Nathan Cleary,
but I'm going the I'm going the two and five
for penrith Ala Moddi and Brian to Yeah, I think
they both ran over two hundred meters, but yeah, both
unbelievable there. I didn't see them jack yet put on
their back once out of the backfield. The work that
they do for their forwards and for Nathan get starting

(45:31):
the sets off, well, it must be a pleasure to
play behind those two.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I had a mate message with me through the game.
Go jeez, I didn't realize, you know, when he took
that intercept, Brian toh, yeah, he goes, I didn't realize
how slow it was. Yeah, because he's done that much work.
He just that's him ticking over two hundred meters with
like thirty minutes left to go on the game, Like
he does that much off the ball. But again he's
like he's bread and butter is what he does out
of yardage. He never gets put on his back, No, never,
Like he's one of the hardest blokes. He's low to

(45:57):
the ground and he's just one of the hardest blokes
to get on his back. I think Alamotti got him
by about thirty or forty meters in the end.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, I don't only got a hat trick as well. Yeah,
and you know I was I was critical. I'm not
critical but I questioned the decision to drop Tom Jenkins, yeah,
two weeks ago, because I thought he'd been one of
the most consistent players all year. And obviously I haven't
put Paul Alamolly in, who's played a lot of finals,
scored two tries some of the Grand Final last year. Honestly,
in the two weeks that he's been back in the

(46:25):
NRL side after being eighteenth man most of the back
end of the year, he's been unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You'd love to know. You'd love to live in Ivan's
head and just go what on earth? Like is it
a personality thing or is it a type of player thing,
because there's must be something there that he knows Alamotti
shows up for big games because he's had some massive
moments for that club, especially in the last two years
in big games. That three tries today and then what
did he get two last week against the Wise? Yeah,

(46:50):
like he has to have something that Ivan goes. I
know he's a big game player, but I'd just love
to know if it's personality or skill set.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
the answers.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
He's a hell of a finisher, but like every time
he gets it, he backs himself.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hell of a finisher and he's got a little bit
of swagger too. You said up there that he was
built like a Transformer.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, then the Transformers one, the one that's the Porsche
who gets up and he's like got like really high
on his toe. That's the one he reminds me of.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
He's bloody built, bloody built, and you know what, I
haven't had much to do with him, but I reckon
he looks like a half decent bloke as well.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I love to view with him.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, I reckon.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
And we're going to ring Matthew as well, just to
get his thoughts on the game before we wrap up
the podcast groups. Maddie, Johnsy Hell are you brother, mate,
We're alive on the on the program. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
We live, no problem, mate. We're just thinking of the game.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Mate, Me and Jack. We've we've just talked about it
for about twenty minutes, mate, So that'd be interesting. That's
pretty low comment, mate, talk about because essentially essentially our
knowledge has just passed down from you. So that's a
reflection of yourself, right.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Blame the DNA, Yeah, they were they were just Yeah,
Pennos were just mate, it was just we're talking before, mate.
One side was playing football, the other one was playing science.
A big difference made like you, dogs were trying hard
the bust of their ass, but the other side is
just too good the precision and you know, probably emblematic

(48:23):
of it when you look at the Panthers first two
tries which were just made insane. You know, everyone doing
their right job, quick hands through the line, high pressure passing,
but made it look easy, too good.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, did you have a back fence player of the
of this match? Do you want to hear Jack?

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Who was yours?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Again?

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I had? I had Liam Martin in the end.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, yeah, I had. I had the wingers Brian and
paul A Lamotti, the dynamic duo. Who do you are?

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Ala?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Modi has been unbelievable, mate. Honestly, when he gets in
big games he goes good.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Now, revelation he was a revelation would you say?

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Yeah? He revelations is great word? But mate, if you
look at him, made the dogs let him go, The
Dogs send him on his way and they're still playing
I think half his contract, so maybe three tries today? Yeah, player,
I'm going Moses Oh yeah, the King, Yeah he was.

(49:24):
He was fantastic McClain like Leam Martin. Mate, one bloke
who has got a keen curious eye is Nathan Hei Marsh.
I'm going to put Heindi on the line. People, here
is an exclusive to the John's podcast. Is Heindi? Heindi
telling what you think about the and extend on more

(49:44):
than did tonight Phil extend.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
It explore the space.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Who am I speaking with?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Hey Nathan, Hi Marsh, you're talking to Cooper and Jack Johns. Mate,
welcome to the podcast. You're live eleven.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
This is eleven.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah, MATEO. I know you don't do many sort
of spots that aren't paid these days, so I'll try
to keep it quite brief for you, mate. What do
you think of the game?

Speaker 4 (50:08):
I thought it was an outstanding game. I thought the
Pendant Panthers were clinical. His outo backs were great, towards
were awesome, bench were awesome, which Kenny sets up a try.
Also he was great And there was a little bit
of a little bit of an issue with Liam Martin
at the back end of the game where he looks
like he's gone down with an injury. He's gone up

(50:30):
into the sheds up the tunnel, he's killed over, he's
grimaced with pain, winced even according to Brian Fletcher. And
then he's come out and do an interview with Jakie
Duke after and pretty much just tried to tell the
public that he was just winded. But we think that's
a bit of horse play.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
So you think, so you think he's a liar, Lee.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Martin, Well, I will say liar. Yes, I'll say liar.
I know that's a bit of aggressive for some, but
I'm going to say, yes, he's lying, he's not telling
people what we want to hear. I think he's actually
busted a rib and he's out there on a brave face.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
He's done an interview, and you think, when you're labeling
a liar, is that is that just is that just
on field or is that like relationship like all others?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Has always been very good for us on Fox League
Brian Flechandi on The Madey John Show. So yeah, I've
got no issues with Lear Martin whatsoever regards to him
as a person. Just the fact that he he's pretending
that he's not injured when he is, so therefore he's alive.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Now, what's on the agenda for you guys tonight. You
guys going to dinner, is that right?

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, it's just a sophisticated dinner, just the Maddie John's crew,
Maddy John's crew. So we'll be having a little bit
of wine, a couple of pastors, maybe a sitzel, and
then we'll be all tacked up in bed. That reason,
we'll time to watch the Formula one hopefully. Yeah, I'm
looking forward to you.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Are your Formula one man?

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I am that's your Formula one man?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Right, and this and you're not just using our platform
to plug like something that you being paid to plug?

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Right, No, it's the key it has been was in
the Formula one. Well maybe but unfortunately it's not a
great you but on the F one track maybe not
so there it is.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Well, thanks Handy. It's been a pleasure to have have
you come on the program.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Mate, it's been a pleasure being on.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yes, do you hear jack Man?

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Gloody?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Guys. Wrian's driving they're putty on pretty on speaker.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Brian's driving there, Brian contending the drive.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
Hey fletch, great, Hey guys.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
How are you fletched? Welcome to the program.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
Mate, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Are we live, but we're not live like it is
a podcast, so we can edit anything you want to
say out if you want to bag anyone or what's
the deal? All right, what's the deal?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
We just wanted to see what's on the agenda tonight.
Handy said it's going to be quite tamed, red wine,
schnitzels and past or. Is that the same for you?

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Well, it will be, but he he forgot to mention
he guys, let's.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Just and.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
No, I did not say that. I said nothing of
the thought, nothing of the thought.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Yeah, we're going to go, Yeah, we're going to go
to Bill and Tony's clawed. He's the owner and Eva.
So they've been in the cafe business for a long
long time. First started at Castle Hill. Yeah, and what
the Bill and Tony has been going to This is
the sixtieth year it's been open.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
So they gorded about fifteen years ago and have just
dramatically turned it into one of Sydney's favorite Italian restaurants,
not only good for businessmen but also great for family.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Can I ask Brian, are you guys paying for this dinner?
Or is this is this like a part of some
sort of freeview.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
Look, I'm willing to pay, but I presume they want
something for their services. But now I think it is
on the house gratis if you will.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Oh well, but that's you know, that's not that's not
a testament. It's a test into what you three you know, Matthew,
Hendi and Fletch. You guys do week in week out
for the rugby league community. Bill and Tony are rewarding
you for that effort. So congratulations, Uh more than Bill.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
If you can't be If you can't be rewarded from
Bill and Tony, who else do you want to be
rewarded by?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Hey? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, Well I heard Hendi's got some cash in his wallet.
Maybe they can get a start a little bit later.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
And he's going to turn that into two hundred one dollars.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Oh well, well, thanks for joining the program, guys, Thanks boys, thanks,
good goodbye everyone. Thanks for joining the program.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
He mate, mate, really proud that YouTube lakes must done.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Okay, right? Cool?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I wish I could say the same, see matey bye bye.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Well that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
That was not what I expected it to be.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
But never again, thanks for filling into.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Dad's shoes today, Jack okay, thanks Preview on Wednesday, Man.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Thanks for destroying ras Man for me. This is my
day off. Your bastard, it's all right, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Whoever over on

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