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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, I'm Dr Kate
Walker.
Welcome to your Tuesdaycoaching for Step it Up members.
I'm so glad you're here.
I got a little bit of a coldtoday so I'm going to sound a
little rough, but it's all right.
We're going to talk about howto become a CE provider, so
let's let folks in, all right,and while people are entering,
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I'm going to go ahead and talk alittle bit about sort of what
my goal is with this right.
I mean, I'm going to give you30 minutes worth of stuff, so
that's almost like a teaser.
So Step it Up members are goingto have their very own complete
webinar on this.
This is sort of like okay, I'mgoing to give you a how-to, and
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I know I just said this, so I'mgoing to say it in a different
way.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm going to give you
a little bit of a how-to.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So those of you who
can grab it quick and you can
get started great.
But don't worry, this summer Iwant to give Step it Up members
even more in-depth training onthings they've been asking for,
and one of the number one thingsI've been asked is how to turn
a talk or a speech that you'vegiven, or a class that you've
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taught or something that you'vepresented, into a CE, and I'll
talk about that in a minute.
It's a little bit morecomplicated than it sounds and
probably more than I can go intoin 30 minutes.
So I'm going to do a morein-depth training on that this
summer, and we'll do it in theevening.
So I know it's a little biteasier for folks to attend when
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things are in the evening, and,of course, we'll have Q&A and
coaching, just like we do here,because that's what we try to do
for Step it Up members.
So when we talk about becominga CE provider in Texas, good
news is you already are.
If you want to be a CE provider,texas changed the rules a
couple years ago.
They made you fill out a formand pay $50, which meant pretty
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much absolutely nothing otherthan they would put you on a
list, and if you were on thatlist, then you were an approved
provider, and if you took a CEfrom anybody who was not on that
list, then, in theory, theywere not going to accept your
certificate if they audited you.
So I guess I better explainthat first.
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You won't have to show yourcertificate to the board unless
you are audited.
I did an episode and a trainingon this a few months ago,
because I was, in fact, audited,so I went through my process of
how I got my stuff together.
Good news, though, of how I gotmy stuff together.
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Good news, though the board hascontracted with a company to
actually take all of ourcertificates and keep them in
one place, and that starts thissummer, and I think that's going
to make life so much easier,and we'll, of course, we'll do a
training on that.
So the idea that you knowsomething weird or different has
to happen in order for you tobe a C provider that's just not
true.
Now, if you want to be one ofthe 50% providers, that makes
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you super special.
That just means you need towork for an agency or a school,
or you need to be a supervisor,so that would make you I mean, I
always think of it like produce.
Like anybody can grow an orange, but if you want to grow
organic oranges, then you haveto be a certain type of farmer.
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So if that's your goal is to bea certain type of provider that
would help folks in youraudience count your certificate
for one of their 50% categorythen, yeah, you would need to be
one of those categories, andit's easy to find.
You go to the rules, and we'lltalk about that in just a second
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.
I'm not going to go into it indepth.
I have done another training onthat, on what all of those
types of providers are.
Easiest thing to do, though, isto become a supervisor, because
supervisors are automaticallyon that list.
So, in other words, what is aCE provider?
Well, when you go to the rulesand if you're listening to me
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and you're an LPC, you're goingto go to 681.140.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And if you were?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
listening to me and
you were an LMFT, you are going
to go to 801.261.
They are almost identical.
And here's the thing that'smissing from both they don't
tell you they meaning the rulesdon't tell you how to be a CE
provider.
Back in the day it would tellyou exactly what to do and for,
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for instance, how long to keepthose records, how you know you
have to take attendance, youhave to do all these things.
Uh, they don't do that anymore.
So, uh, when that section wentaway I was a little surprised,
but it's, it's still consideredbest practice.
So when you go to the rulesagain, I've taught, I've given
you guys trainings about.
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You know six CEs in that, threeCEs in this.
So if you're looking for theparticulars of CEs, that is not
this training.
So what the rules will tell youperson who wants to become a CE
provider, it will tell you thetopics that you can present on
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Again forgive me, I've got acold here it will tell that they
will accept as a CE.
So when you're looking at thetopics, I'm going to just read
let's go to the, let's go to LPC.
Again, they're pretty much thesame Acceptable ethics hours
include.
So if you're going to give a CDon ethics, your topic would be
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on state or federal laws,practice guidelines, education
designed to demonstrate oraffirm the ideals and
responsibilities of theprofession, training or
education intended to assistlicensees in determining
appropriate decision-making andbehavior.
So if you're looking for topicsfor your continuing education,
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just go to the rules.
It will tell you the types ofcultural diversity topics, the
types of ethics topics, thetypes of counseling topics that
you can give and, at the end ofthe day, they really just want
to know that the topic thatyou're going to present is about
counseling and mental health.
Right, I do a lot of businesstraining, but I make them CE
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worthy because I make itrelevant to how you practice,
not just how you pay your taxes.
I want it to pertain to how youdeliver services and how you
make decisions.
So if, as you're thinking abouttopics as a CE provider, drill
down in the rules and then ifyou have something you're really
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good at like if your pastcareer you were an accountant
well, just make yourpresentation accounting for
counselors.
How would a counselor makedecisions on a day-to-day basis?
So we've got the who is a CEprovider you are.
What do you present?
Go to the rules if you want tobe specific or start with your
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expertise and then make itsomething relevant for
counseling, and then what you'veall been waiting for, which is
the how.
How do you do this?
Well, you have to havesomething to host the stuff, you
have to have a way to sell thestuff and you have to have a way
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to present the stuff All right.
So, again, if you're looking forthings like, do I have to take
attendance, do I have to give acertificate, the only thing the
rules say you have to do is youhave to provide a certificate.
Everything else is just bestpractices.
So, yes, take attendance.
Yes, offer a syllabus.
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Yes, keep records, becauseeverybody loses their records.
Hopefully they won't after thenew system is in place this
summer.
So I'm going to tell you so,for example, this what I'm doing
right now is a training.
I'm offering it on Zoom andwhich is already on one step
ahead, because when I think of,like, hosting the stuff, and
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when I'm saying the stuff, I'mtalking about what you're
teaching, what you're presenting, right, what I just covered a
minute ago when you go to therules, the topic that you're
teaching, the words coming outof my mouth.
So, right now, zoom ispresenting my stuff.
All right, this is how I ampresenting to you.
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If you're doing it live, well,that's all right, you don't need
another thing to present it.
But you still have to have away to capture it.
So with Zoom, when I deliverthis to you, it is getting
recorded.
I can see a little thing overin the corner here.
It's blinking so as I presentit.
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So first thing to do, if youwant to be a CE provider, you
have to have a way to present itthat preserves it.
I love Zoom, but that's not theonly thing.
There's something calledRiverside that has even better
quality.
It's just not as accessible andwell-known.
That has even better quality.
It's just not as accessible andwell known.
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So I stick with Zoom.
But if you're going to dosomething live, then you're
going to present it and you'regoing to capture it.
So you're going to capture that.
Set up an iPad, set up a phone,capture it.
Okay, now you got it and when Isay it I know this is hard,
right, but you know it's sittingthere as an mp4.
Mp4 means there's visual withit.
Mp3 means no visual, it's justaudio.
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So you've got it sitting in anmp4 and you've still got to
figure out a way to present itto your audience.
So that's the first thing howare you going to present it?
Zoom is super easy to changeinto a, for instance, a youtube
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link.
I love youtube, google lovesyoutube.
So when I make this training,I'm presenting it through zoom.
Zoom gives me a link that I canthen upload to YouTube.
Of course, I edit it a littlebit and I'll talk about editing
software too and so we've gotthe presentation of the stuff,
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then we've got the linkuploading it to YouTube.
Then we have to have a way tohost the stuff.
Right, because this has alreadyhappened by the time someone
sees it next week.
Right, you're a Step it Upmember.
You can access this in about amonth.
Well, it's got to sit somewhere,right?
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Think about if I just built awidget where I host.
It is kind of like the shelfthat I put the widget on.
Well, that place where I'msetting it.
It would be wonderful if thatwould also sell the stuff.
So hosting the stuff andselling the stuff is key.
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So when you're Googlingdifferent things that host your
stuff and then sell your stuff,here's what you're looking for.
Step one you want something andI'm just going to go with
YouTube because that's what Iuse.
You're going to Googlesomething that allows you to
upload YouTube videos and thenit will sell a link to that
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YouTube video.
All right, and then it willsell a link to that YouTube
video, all right.
So when I do the training foryou in a few weeks where I
really drill down on this, I'mgoing to show you how to use
something called Podia.
Podia, p-o-d, as in David I-A.
Podia allows you to upload aYouTube video and it allows you
to sell a link to that YouTubevideo.
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Now I am assuming everybody hereis wanting to do CEs to sell.
If you're doing CEs just togive away, you can turn the
recording off or stop at YouTube.
Youtube is going to be.
You just give everybody thelink to your YouTube.
Then you have given them a CE.
But if you're trying to sellyour CEs, then you're going to
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need something like Podia, andPodia is pretty cool because
Podia will actually let you setit up like a website and then
you've got your CE website withall of the courses or CEs that
you sell.
So if you do a talk for thelocal PTA, you've got your
camera set up.
The camera records your MP4,you upload it to YouTube.
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You've got a handy, dandy link.
You put that link on YouTubeand you sell it as a CE.
It's a very seamless process,all right.
So now we've got host the stuff, present the stuff, sell the
stuff.
Here's one thing I just that isso key for me you have to have a
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way to automatically providethe certificate.
Remember, I said in the rule,the one thing that they stuck to
was that you must provide acertificate for the CE that
you're giving and you're amazing, your CEs are going to be
amazing.
So you're not going to want togo back and, by hand, go through
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your email list and sendeverybody a certificate.
Believe me, I've been there,done that.
It's a pain, and email isunreliable.
Our email is attracted toy'all's spam boxes, like it's
almost just like a bee to ahoneycomb.
I don't know if that's a thing,but still, email is awful.
So finding a way and that's onething that Podia does.
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So finding a way and that's onething that Podia does it
actually allows the user who haspurchased your CE to also
download the certificate.
And because you guys are goingto do best practices, you're
going to have a syllabus.
You may have a PDF PowerPoint,you may have handouts, you may
have things that you want yourperson to have while they're
watching your CE or at the endof your CE that you're
presenting.
Podia lets you include all ofthat so when the person
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purchases the CE, they can clickthe link.
Remember, because Podia hostsyour YouTube video.
It takes them to YouTube, theywatch all the stuff.
But then Podia says, oh yeah,this person has purchased.
So hey, here's your certificate.
You got the certificate in yourhand and Podia has now logged
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this person in L-O-G-G-E-D,logged them in so you have a
record of their attendance.
In fact, in Podia you can evenlook to see if they you know, if
you have a quiz, you can have abox that it checks and it shows
that they took the quiz.
Podia offers that as well.
There's no requirement in therules to offer a quiz.
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This summer, I'm going to beoffering a CE with Kimberly
Parker and she's going to talkto y'all about how to become
NBCC certified and she's goingto go into depth about how to
become NBCC certified.
They require a quiz.
So if you want to be a CEprovider who is NBCC certified,
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then you will need something ahost like Podia, where you can
also have a quiz built in andthe certificate built in, so the
participant gets thecertificate when they pass their
quiz.
So I'm going to pause it thereand just take questions, because
I know a lot of you.
This may be old news and you mayhave something particular to
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your situation, so I'm going tohit the pause, but actually I'm
going to keep it going becauseyou guys might ask some really
good questions.
So, with your permission, I'mgoing to keep it going because
you guys might ask some reallygood questions.
So, with your permission, I'mgoing to let it keep recording.
If it gets quiet or if youdon't feel comfortable, just put
it in the chat and I can answerit that way.
Hey, sharon, I'm going to muteit while I call All right, go
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ahead.
Yeah, what's your question?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So they're coming out
with a new way to handle this.
Will these CEUs be able to beused outside of Texas?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, so think of it
this way Texas can't say whether
their driver's license is goodin Maine.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Only Maine can say
that.
So the best bet if you'retrying to get a national
acceptance with your CE, is todo something that has a national
audience, which is NBCCNational Board Certified
Counselor.
So if you choose to become anNBCC certified CE provider, then
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I highly recommend listening toKimberly Parker.
I'll tell you exactly when it'sgoing to be.
It's going to be.
It's going to be in July, July24th.
Her training is going to be onhow to become an NBCC provider.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
So do you know if you
have to have been an NBCC
yourself.
I was not.
I didn't graduate from a schoolthat was K-CREP not.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I didn't graduate
from a school that was K-Crip.
No, you don't have to be.
I'm not an NCE.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I never took the NCE.
I'm not nationally certified,but I am.
I took the NCE but because ofmobility issues and health, I
ended up needing to transfer toa different school and they
wouldn't.
You know.
Texas took all the theinformation, all the trainings,
but yeah, you don't need toyou're good to go.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yep, if you're not
NBCC certified, you can still be
NBCC approved provider.
What other questions?
I was really happy to seepeople interested in this topic
and like I said, if you don'twant to be on the recording,
please put it in the chat.
I've got my chat open too.
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Are a lot of y'all doing CEs oryou just want to dip your toe
in the water?
Are a lot of y'all doing CEs oryou just want to dip your toe
in the water?
Is there like a step-by-step tobecome a CE provider?
That's what this was right.
So I'm basically telling you,like step one, you are a CE
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provider.
Great question, by the way,because people ask that all the
time.
You are a CE provider just bywanting to be, as long as the
topic you present is one of thetopics in the rules.
And again, like I said, it justhas to be related to counseling
for the most part.
And if you're wanting to dosomething specific for ethics or
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cultural diversity, then youhave to include it in a
different way.
But after that it just becomesyou know how are you going to
present it and how are you goingto sell it, how are you going
to sell it?
And if you're going to do itlive, then do you want something
to host it so you can sell itafter it happens?
That's when it comes down tothe software.
And yes, I'm stepping upmembers, you guys will get free.
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I mean, it's included, this ispart of your membership.
I am going to do a reallyin-depth training on how to use
Podia.
Podia is my software of choice,just because and you guys are
familiar with it if you'vebought anything from me, you
know it feels like you've goneto my website.
So that's how I sell thingsI've already presented.
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Right, we call that asynchronous.
So it's wonderful to provide alive CE, like if you're at TCA
you're going to give a talk,texas Counseling Association
presentation.
It's going to be a CE, it'sgoing to be live.
Well, they're going to captureit and they're going to find a
way to host it and sell it in anasynchronous fashion.
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Why shouldn't you?
Right?
So that's part of the wholedeal too.
Cheryl's asking.
First of all, tovar, did Ianswer your questions?
Awesome, all right, and you'rewelcome.
And then, Cheryl, what aboutpricing?
Well, it really depends.
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Here's what I've found If youoffer a CE, that is mandatory in
some way.
So, like you know, everysupervisor has to have
supervisor CEs.
All of us have to have ethicsCEs and cultural diversity CEs.
So when you know if you stickto that, then you know you're
going to have a pretty.
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I mean, if it's a good CE, thenyou could probably charge a
little bit more.
Also, if you're offering a CEfor something's high demand like
EMDR or Gottman training orsomething related to you know,
if you're working on conflictresolution and you market toward
folks who work with couples andyou market toward folks who
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work with couples, the tighterthe niche usually, the higher
the price.
Really, just like anything else,it depends on the market and I
recommend you test it firstbefore you ever create it.
Right?
If you have a survey that youcan send out, you guys, you know
, in the Facebook group, youknow I sometimes will put out
there.
Okay, what do you guys want meto do?
What do you?
What do you guys need, right?
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Like, if you guys all told meyou wanted CEs and I said, yeah,
but I really feel like talkingabout backyard gardening, right,
so that that's not a populartopic and if I tried to sell it
it would probably flop.
I'm not a very good gardener.
So, really, the price samething as if you were selling
everything else, anything else.
Check the market, see whatsimilar CEs are out there and
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what they're charging, and thenyou price it in a similar way.
Jessica says I always say no toTCA or others when they ask to
record it.
I say no because I typicallycharge for the same presentation
elsewhere and would not wantother people to be able to find
it for.
I say no because I typicallycharge for the same presentation
elsewhere and would not wantother people to be able to find
it for free.
Yeah, that's part of the thing.
Yeah, jessica, I totally getyou, and you know that's the
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tricky part, right?
Unless you want to give itagain when you get home and you
know that's the same.
You know TCA has it and they'reoffering it.
Then you have it and you'reoffering it.
But yeah, I totally get that.
So I'll ask you guys I mean iswould you guys be interested in
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learning how to use Podia andI'm going to put it in the chat,
I'll spell it out P-O-D-I-A tohost presentations that you have
already given?
Okay, good, good, good, good.
So that's because to me, that'swhere people get stuck, right,
they've given a talk, theyrecorded it, and now that's
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sitting in a Google Drivesomewhere or some kind of an
external hard drive and they'relike, okay, what do I do?
How do I get this out of myhard drive or off of my Google
Drive into the storefront sothat I can sell it.
The other thing that I can talkabout in the presentation is my
editing software, which iscalled Camtasia.
But I will tell you there is amuch simpler software, and so
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we'll talk about that too,because I mean so, for example,
with this, what I'm doing rightnow for you guys.
If I was going to sell this, Iwould want to put like a little
title at the front.
I'd want to put something atthe end of it that says here's
how to contact me, because, eventhough someone purchased it on
your site, they may get a linksomewhere on YouTube or if
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you're using, you know who knowswhatever you're using to host
it.
Well, you want them to know howto contact you, and that's also
best practices, because withasynchronous, one of the
problems with asynchronous isthat it gets old right.
So you know, if I do a CE onthe rules in a year, that's
probably not going to be thething anymore.
Like, what I'm presenting toyou guys today is based on the
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March rulebook, which isprobably going to change in
about a week.
So you know, that's just thenature of asynchronous stuff.
So you want to be sure you havea way for people to contact you
.
Jessica says I also like tolearn how to send certificates
of completion Well, podia doesthat of completion easily and
ensure they meet all of theneeded components for LPC and
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social work to use for credit.
Well, that's the thing I cantell you right now.
It does not say I'm going toread just for fun, I'm just
going to read LPC.
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The council does notpre-evaluate or pre-approve
continuing education providers,or ours says licensees shall
maintain proof of continuingeducation for three years.
Does not say we as continuingeducation providers have to.
And yeah, I was trying to befancy and just show you, but the
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only thing it says that like CEprovider that's us, but we're
talking to each other here hasto provide as a certificate.
It does not say what has to beon that certificate.
And that's why I was sayingearlier, jessica, if you wanna
drill down into, like people whohave really stringent
requirements, it's NBCC, right,like so basics for a certificate
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.
Let's say you're doing ethics.
Well, you wanna put on yourcertificate clearly like this is
ethics and you wanna put thatit's one hour for ethics.
But does it say that in therules?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, Correct me if I'm
wrong, but if you do a
presentation of one hour forethics, you can use that for
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your one hour credit too.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That is up.
That's true to a point.
So many, only so many, cause Igive a ton of presentations
every year but I can't do all ofmy hours toward my renewal, but
many, many of them I can.
Are we able to provide or offeror record the CE content in
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Spanish?
Absolutely, oh, my gosh, 100%.
Talk about a niche.
Are you kidding me?
That's wonderful, that'sincredible.
I mean, because think about howmany people who are native
Spanish speakers who have to sitthrough English CEs English is
their second language.
Wouldn't it be wonderful tooffer a CE completely in Spanish
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and then you could, if you want, to, translate it.
Great, if you didn't don't doit, I think that's wonderful.
Going back to Jessica, how tosend certificates of completion
easily, I'm going to go back to,uh, you know my email.
Drama email is is just awful.
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It's it's an awful way to do it, but it's really the only way
to do it.
And so what podia does it?
Does it a couple of ways.
With an asynchronous CE, itwill have a, basically a
certificate that's just kind ofgenerated that says, hey, good
job, you finished this thing.
Well, we also send an email andPodia lets us do that with a
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certificate that has all of theinformation that we feel are
best practices.
Again, texas doesn't requirethis, but we put you know, it's
got our name, it's got ourcontact information.
And then because this is wherePodia is limited and I'll talk
to you guys about that more Imean maybe I'm getting too deep
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in the weeds here you can get aspecific certificate for the
course you're teaching or youcan use more of a generic
certificate.
Again, texas doesn't say Texasdoesn't say what they're needing
.
They basically, I think likestaff.
I think like staff, if I'mpulling a certificate for an
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audit, I'm going to want to seethat if the licensee says it's
for ethics, I'm going to look atthe certificate.
I want to make sure that itsays ethics on it and if the
licensee says it was one hour,then I want to make sure my all
right.
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What other questions let me askyou guys this what's holding
you back?
Like, what is the biggestbarrier right now?
Because obviously you're here,because you want to do it?
Is it the the hosting thing?
Is it the editing thing?
Is it delivering a CEautomatically?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
thing.
It's the marketing, gettingpeople to see it and sign up for
it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, that's, that's
tricky, and I mean I'll talk
about that more, you know.
But you know the thing aboutCEs it's kind of like broccoli,
and not everybody likes broccoli, you know, and it's we have to
have it.
But and I'll tell you this too,you know, maybe not all of us
can can produce something superwonderful like this.
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Right now I'm sitting here I'mcoughing, I'm sneezing, I'm
wiping my nose.
I wouldn't sell this right.
That doesn't mean it needs tobe super polished, but it.
You know, when I, when Iproduce something that I sell,
you know I'm checking for umsand ahs and breaks, and you know
I'm, if I say I watch it again,I make sure that if it's
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unclear, that I edit in correct.
You know this.
There's a lot that goes into anasynchronous thing that I sell,
right, and so when you marketit, that's a lot to keep in mind
.
So I would say I'm going to gostick with what I said initially
, which is, do your marketresearch first, and the easiest
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way to do that is just Google it.
Right.
If you're wanting to do a CE onbackyard gardening for
counselors, then Google it, andif you can't find one, that's
either good or bad, right, itmeans one.
You have found a niche that isgoing to make you a million
dollars, or you have found aniche that nobody wants right.
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So that's the key, and I thinka lot of people get discouraged.
So that's, cheryl, you bring upsomething good.
I would suggest you haveseveral CEs batched and ready to
go so that you can do a test,right, you can have one, have
several on several differenttopics, see what people like and
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then, when you figure that out,make more of those right.
Don't make the other ones, makethe ones that people like.
Dr Powell says marketing forsure, but I'm also clueless
about how to use the appropriatetechnology to host it.
So, and I would say, you knowthat's the podia that you're you
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guys are making this evenclearer in my mind.
I think that doing the trainingon podia how I use podia to
host and sell because, remember,if you've got something to host
it but not sell it, that'syoutube.
Just get a youtube channel andthere's nothing wrong with that
mean, if you're going for viewsand you're hoping to somehow
sell ads, you know great, Justdo it, youtube, and make your
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money through all the ads thatYouTube will, you know, give you
once you hit 50 gazillion views.
But if you're trying to host itin a way for your website so
you can provide a CE, right?
Because, again, if somebody'sjust watching your stuff, I mean
, how are you going to give thema certificate?
Then you're going to want tohost it on something like Podia.
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Jessica says I've done lots oftrainings for school districts,
tca, tasca and community events,but I've never advertised and
provided certificate surveys orevaluations.
I was just asked to present tosocial workers in Lawrence this
summer and that got me excited.
Oh yeah, so if you're providingCEs for somebody else, which is
a huge weight off, right, ifyou go somewhere and the other
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people are going to beresponsible for giving out the
CEs, that's nice.
That doesn't mean you can'trecord it right.
Set up an iPad and then, whenyou're delivering the CE for the
other person, you are getting agreat recording.
You know, get one of thoselavalier mics and then look at
you, you've got yourpresentation.
Or do like I do Sit here atyour desk and just give the
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presentation either to a liveaudience or to nobody, right,
and then you can take your timeand hit pause and really, really
make it polished.
So I'm glad you're doing that,jessica.
I think that's awesome.
All right, so look for thistraining.
Um, I in fact, as soon as I hitstop on this, I'm going to get
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it scheduled.
Uh, I'm going to do it over thesummer, so probably june, and
that way I can have you guystrained up on podia before
kimberly parker does her nbcctraining on july 24th, because
that way, if you guys decide youwant to be NBC certified as
well, you're like okay, I'm goodto go because I know how to use
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Podia, I know how to edit, Iknow how to do all that.
So any other questions for meabout how to be a CE provider?
So here's the software I'mgoing to put.
So I talked about today Podia.
I talked about CamtasiaMarketing.
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There are a couple of things Iwant to.
Podia does a good job, but Iwill go into more depth because
you have to be able to emailpeople.
I use ConvertKit, right,because with Podia, you want to
be able to email people and say,hey, it's starting soon or hey,
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how'd you like it right?
So ConvertKit is great becauseit plays nicely with Podia, and
Zoom, which also plays nicelywith Podia.
And when I say that, that meanswhen, like, let's say, you sign
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up for Podia today, it's goingto ask you integrations, and
Zoom is one of the things youcan integrate into Podia.
And so that just means when youhave like this right here, if
I'm going to do a webinar, I canadvertise it and I can sell it
in Podia.
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So if you wanted to do a liveCE right, just like I'm doing
now, you do it through Zoom, yougo to Podia and you make it
nice.
Oh, I'm going to talk aboutCanva too.
Sorry, I'm sidetracking myself.
If you don't know what Canva isright, because you want to make
it look nice, you're going tosay you're going to set up a
storefront, you're going to makea nice Canva that says super
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great webinar, and you're goingto sell tickets, let's say, for
$25 a ticket $25 a ticket andembedded in that store shelf is
the Zoom link right and thatperson has to log into their
account and get the Zoom link.
Because, again, it's anightmare if you're going to
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sell a bunch of tickets right onEventbrite or something like
that, which I think you probablycould use Eventbrite.
I don't know much about that,but then later on you got to
give everybody the Zoom linkAgain.
I know this from experience.
I've done that.
I've sold things on my websitethat I've had to go through the
email list and send every singleperson the Zoom link when it's
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time to show up, so somethinglike Podia, and it doesn't have
to be Podia.
That's just what I teachbecause that's what I use.
But when I say it integratesnicely, it means that you're
going to advertise through it,you're going to deliver the
presentation through it, you'regoing to communicate through it,
you're going to give them acertificate through it, right.
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And then when that presentationis given, the webinar has
happened.
You go to Zoom and there's yourhandy dandy link and you're
going to be able to put thatback on Podia.
Right, you had it on Podia as awebinar, but now you're going
to put it on Podia as anasynchronous CE.
This was a live one.
This is not All right.
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Any other questions?
Okay, question is does Hodea,could it work to do to record?
So Podia doesn't record.
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So when we talk about a thing,remember you have to have a
thing to host the stuff and sellthe stuff and present the stuff
.
Podia is how you host it andsell it.
You still need something elseto present it and that's why I
say Zoom, or some people useRiverside.
You have to have some way tocapture that.
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So, like if I was using myphone, just my phone and I got
that super, super long MP4 link,I'd have to get a way to put
that onto Podia in order to sellit.
In order to sell it.
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So with a podcast, podcaststhey do give you a link and I
guess you could conceivably sellthat on Podia.
But again you're having to pickthe link up over here and
you're having to put it ontoPodia.
There probably is software outthere that you can present it,
like if Zoom had a store rightand it just let me.
I just here, I am recording mything and then I was able to
sell it right away.
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It was my presenting thing andmy selling thing.
That might be kind of neat, butI'm not aware of any software
that does that.
Lori wants to know what wouldyou estimate to be the average
cost of these platforms permonth?
Well, that's the fun part.
They all kind of nickel anddime you so you can start with
you know $29.99 or you knowwhatever that rate is.
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But chances are and that mightbe great If you were just going
to start off selling one or twoCEs, and I do recommend that I
would start off with a monthlyplan and do a low you know very
bare minimum plan.
Do as much as you can with freestuff like YouTube and I know
Zoom isn't free, but I thinkthere is a free plan.
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So you know I would start offwith the bare minimum.
I do not spend $19.99 a month.
I spend more than that becauseI have sometimes they also have
it on the number of users.
So I guess let me digress aminute.
It's and I will talk.
I'm going to make a note.
There is a difference between CEsoftware that is focused on
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training, like your corporation,like there's CE software out
there.
That's like you know, we onlycharge $10 per user.
Well, that's for like a hugecorporation where they're
putting people in classroomsteaching them how to run
invoices.
That's not what you want,because $10 per user, that's
costing you more than you'remaking.
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So I will talk about that more.
But it's something that I thinkpeople get confused about a lot
.
So they get into this reallyrobust software that has all
these bells and whistles thatyou know, you can gamify it and
all these things, and it's about, you know $80, $90, you know
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$300 a month, let's say, or more, and you don't need all that.
What I'm trying to help youguys understand is really, all
you need is a way to present it,a way to host it and a way to
sell it, so that you're nothaving to hand out certificates
individually.
Just very, very, very basic.
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So let me make a note we aregonna talk about that difference
between corporate CE stuff.
And you guys, I think Kajabi isanother one that may be a lot
like Podia, but I don't knowmuch about that.
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But yeah, definitely thinkabout this, adding at least
another $100 probably to yourmonthly budget, maybe more, but
if it adds more than $100 toyour monthly budget, you're
probably spending too much atfirst.
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You know, what would bewonderful when I do this
training is if you guys havestarted something, let me take a
look at it.
You know, I'm happy to take alook and just kind of see what
you've started to do.
And, you know, let you know ifthere's an easier way to do it.
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I mean, you may teach mesomething, you may show me that
there's something that you'redoing that I can learn from.
But it really is.
It shouldn't be difficult.
It shouldn't be so hard thatyou guys would get stopped.
Most people stop doing CEsbecause they've picked a niche
that just doesn't make any money, right?
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If you're doing something thatthere's just no great demand for
, okay, what else?
All right.
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You guys all get the emails,I'm assuming, so look, check
your email and I will put outthe dates for the webinars this
summer.
Again, just going to dive, youknow.
I mean, we did 45 minutes onthis today and I didn't even
screen share.
So when I do the training, Iwill show you how to do these
things.
I'm going to use screen shareand I'll make sure that it's
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very, very clear how all of thisstuff fits together, how all of
this stuff fits together andcost.
You know, what I'll do isyou'll have the links to stuff
so you guys can check the costyourself too.
I mean, like I said, I thinkZoom has a free plan.
So any other questions?
Thank you, dr Powell, Iappreciate you.
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Oh, yes, and I have beenpromoted to grandma and I love
it.
She rolled over today.
Bt dubs thank you, thank you,thank you, all right you guys
have a wonderful week and I willsee you in a few weeks when we
dive into this.
Okay, see ya.