July 29, 2025 • 37 mins
What happens when you bring a bromance to the podcast table? Pure magic. This episode of Baggage Claim features our son Thomas and his best friend AJ as we explore the fascinating intersection of friendship and marriage.
These two young men began as bitter enemies over a girl at the barbecue restaurant where they worked, with "hate" being "a light word" for their initial feelings toward each other. Fast forward nearly a decade, and they're inseparable friends who've learned to navigate life's challenges together. Their journey from hostility to brotherhood provides the perfect backdrop for our deeper exploration of relationships.
We dive into how friendship serves as the foundation for lasting marriages. As one doctor wisely observed, "marriages that really last, that stand the test of time, that go through conflict, that have hard times - the ones that make it are because they are friends." This profound truth often gets overshadowed by romance and passion, yet it's the friendship element that sustains couples through difficult seasons.
Trust emerges as the cornerstone of both successful friendships and marriages. The ability to speak truth, provide accountability, and simply "be there" creates resilience in relationships of all kinds. As Thomas navigates early parenthood with his wife Miranda, he's discovering how crucial it is to remember they were friends before becoming spouses and parents – a lesson applicable to couples in any stage.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we explore the delicate balance between marriage partnerships and friendships, how external relationships influence our marriages, and the importance of surrounding ourselves with positive people who support our relationships rather than undermine them.
Perhaps most practically, we discuss how "fun" needs redefinition through different life seasons. Whether it's rebuilding furniture together, watching YouTube videos while the baby sleeps, or simply crashing on the couch with door-dashed food, finding ways to enjoy each other's company remains essential for connection.
Pull up a chair, grab your favorite drink, and join our candid, laughter-filled discussion about the relationships that shape our lives most profoundly.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, what's up?
I'm Greg.
I hope you guys are ready tounpack and get into some good
conversations today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And I'm Jess, and this is our podcast Baggage
Claim.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Welcome to Baggage Claim people.
I get it.
That's a little bit of aninteresting start for us.
So, wherever you're at, ifyou're new here, welcome.
(00:37):
If you're not, hey, this isyour regular place.
You know what to do.
Grab your drink If you're new.
Grab your drink, your favoritedrink, whatever it is.
And I'm going to say drink onemore time before we get in and
just pull up to the table, soyou bet she's gonna get a drink
first.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Get a drink, we're all about drink, get you a drink
?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
no, we're not drinking.
Every time I say drink, that'snot that, um, so we.
So, if you haven't figured out,uh, today we're gonna talk
about friendship, yeah, and sowe decided to.
You know why not shake it upand throw a big old curveball?
Yeah, and see what happens?
Because we're 22, 23 episodesin uh still doing this.
(01:22):
Uh, they hadn't kicked us offthe internet yet, which which
I'm pretty excited about, so wesaid you know why not?
Let's do something fun.
So we have.
If you listen to our otherpodcast, we had the Peanut
Gallery, who was just over there.
We had our live audience, whowas just over there in the
coolers.
Well, they made their way fromthe coolers.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So they're back.
We've got Tweedledee andTweedledum here with us.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They are at the table , with us Pulled up to the table
.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Also known as Thomas, our oldest son, and AJ, his
best friend, our faux son.
Yeah, so AJ's kind of— Ourpretend son.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, he's part of the family, yeah, he is very
much when he starts dating.
If we don't get to meet thatperson, we get kind of upset.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We also get veto power.
Yeah, yeah, we've exercised it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Jess is a little more picky than.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
AJ is, I am, but you know it's all right, I'm picky
for my boys.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So yeah, just so you know.
Sorry about that.
So, but we've invited thembecause we're talking about
friends.
They've been friends since highschool.
Yeah, talking about friends,they've been friends since high
school.
So high school they're out.
One's married and EMTfirefighter.
One flies planes for a living.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He's actually a professional pilot.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He's a professional pilot for private jets.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Captain, also a bachelor.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He's also single.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, just throw that in there.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Private jets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Captain, also a bachelor.
He's also single.
Yes, he's also Just throw thatin there.
He is not married and does nothave a kid, no, so these guys
have been friends, and so wewant to talk about friendship
and marriage, but we also wantedto talk about friendship in the
sense of those that we surroundwith us, and so that's why we
have these guys at the tablewith us tonight, and so we can
(03:06):
talk about that, what that lookslike, even for us as married
couples, and then what it meansfor us also, and so you guys can
jump in, speak into any of thatthat you want to.
So tonight or today or whateverthe crap it is, it's just going
to be fun and we're just goingto have a good time with it.
(03:29):
Yeah, it's so fun because I haveno notes in my handy dandy
notebook and you know how much Ilove that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, jess is freaking out right now, so if
you're, listening.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There's just words, just single words, written on
her notebook, and she's gettinganxiety and sweating as she
looks at it, literally.
So let's jump in.
There are two types offriendships, I think, that are
important for our lives.
That should be a part of ourlives.
There's one that I heard thisdoctor that I follow I don't
know his name so I'm not goingto say it, I can't remember it
(03:56):
Follow him on TikTok, but hemade a statement which just
really resonated with me and Ithought about it and you and I
have talked about it a lot.
It said marriages that reallylast, that stand the test of
time, that go through conflict,that have hard times, the ones
that make it are because theyare friends, and so friendship
is a huge deal when it comes tomarriage.
(04:16):
But we also believe thatfriendship outside of marriage
is also a really big part ofactually being able to be
friends inside your marriage,because those are two distinctly
different areas but also very,very important for us as couples
being married.
Would you agree?
Okay, so we always say so.
(04:39):
You guys, tell us a little bitand this is Thomas and AJ tell
us a little bit about yourfriendship.
What kind of don't?
Okay, this is a podcast that'sgoing on the internet, so be
careful.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh so, but tell us a little bit about how you guys
connected, became friends andhow that's grown over the over
the years yeah, so when me andaj first met each other, we were
working at the same restaurantand we hated each other over a
girl that'd be a light word,honestly yeah, hate is
(05:13):
definitely a light word for howwe felt about each other, um,
and over a girl, over a girl.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
How silly is that now .
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It feels so silly now because neither of us even have
anything to do with that girlanymore.
No, and yeah, I guess just overtime, talking about the
situation, realized that it wasstupid A lot of cooler talks.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, really cooled us down.
Yeah, literally figured,literally cooled us down.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The smokehouse was hot yeah.
So yeah, you guys worked at abarbecue restaurant together.
You met there Some girl youboth liked, so you had that
instant conflict.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, he liked her and I ended up dating her Whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Whoa Okay, is that how it went?
I just fooled with anopportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, so all right, okay, is that how
it went?
I just I, just I, just I, justI, just I, just I, just I, just
I, just I, just I, just I, justI, just I, just I, just I, just
I just I, just, I, just, I, just, I, just, I, just I just I,
just I, just I, just I, just Ijust.
I, just I In the mic.
No, what did you say?
You can't hear unless you talkin the mic.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Enemies to lover trope, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So well said, jess, you went from enemies to best
friends.
Yes, it's a bromance.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's a bromance.
It is definitely a bromance.
That's a great quote.
Yeah, it's a great quote.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm so confused.
Thank, that's a great quote.
Yeah, that's a great quote.
I'm so confused, thank you.
All right, so there's no longera girl.
You guys become friends.
What kind of grew thatfriendship or kept you guys
together through this time?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It was definitely the job, just us working together,
just the time we spent Obviouslythem not working out definitely
helped To grow the relationshipokay gotcha, one ends, one
begins you know right so thatwas definitely a pivotal point
there, gotcha but I mean, we'reeight, nine years later and
(07:18):
y'all still just as much enjoyhanging out together.
I guess we just realized wereally had a lot more in common.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You do.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Than not, I mean yeah .
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, Now did you discover that over time?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It just took you guys some time to get there for that
.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I definitely would say so Because, as any like new
friendship goes, there's alwaysthose awkward points when you're
trying to figure out do I likethis person or do I just like
them because there's somebody Ican hang out with for what I'm?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
doing right, right, which was work for us?
Yeah, and in most cases,literally most friendships,
especially as you're an adult,most of your friendships, think
about now like the only people Ihang out with, either the
people I live with or the peopleI work with, like that's,
that's it, like there's not alot of interaction outside of
that.
So a lot of times work becomesthat default for friends.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So I mean it's definitely interesting because
we're in definitely differentfields, but we've managed that
over time still as well.
Not a lot of common interest insome parts, but more in others,
and I think that is what hashelped us grow together.
Interesting, interesting,that's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So finding those common denominators, even
through all of that it's pretty,pretty interesting.
You know there's statisticallyit talks about like in business.
I love to read business booksand it always talks about this
is one of the core principles ofall of that.
If you want to see a successfulperson, look at the people who
they surround themselves with,and so who we allow into our
(08:46):
lives to be our friends has ahuge impact on who we are as
people Like.
Some people push us, somepeople encourage us to be just
better versions of who we are,and that's always a cool thing,
I think, to see.
Do you?
Would you guys agree with that?
Oh, have you, have you guysseen any example of that in your
relationship?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean definitely because, like for me,
I have a wife and a kid and somy, I guess, work ethic towards
what I wanted was different thanwhat AJ wanted.
Ethic towards what I wanted wasdifferent than what AJ wanted,
because AJ wanted to besuccessful before he started his
wife and kid relationship, andso watching him grow to be
(09:31):
successful has driven me to makesure that I'm always trying to
be better for myself okay yeah,and then I don't want to speak
for you, but like I feel likeyou watching me wants you to
drive, to have a happyrelationship like I have,
because I mean, you helped mefind my wife.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Definitely on the flip side, just watching Thomas
and Miranda and their love grow.
I mean, your daughter, she's mygoddaughter, I love her.
Probably not as much as youguys do, I mean that'd be hard
to compare it to a parent.
It's definitely a lot more.
Probably not as much as youguys do, I mean that'd be hard
to compare it to a parent.
It's definitely a lot more.
But just being able to be inyour life and watch her grow up
and, you know, be successful forher as well, because I'm in
that position where you know,unfortunately, I think whatever
(10:13):
happened, that's my daughter,yeah, so just that's how much I
love I have for you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And that's also another factor.
This is interesting too,because you think of that as
adults, like as you startadulting and you you get into
careers, you get into thosethings of of life and you're
like man who's in my life thatspeaks truth to me, who's in my
life that can speak love into me, and sometimes, like we all are
in those valleys, it's like Ineed some encouragement.
And then when we screw up or wedo something bad, somebody that
you can call and say I got you.
Like valleys, it's like I needsome encouragement.
And then when we screw up or wedo something bad, somebody that
you can call and say I got youlike it's all good.
(10:49):
Yeah, like those, thoserelationships are so important.
We we talk about those outsidethe marriage, but we rarely talk
about it in the sense of amarriage like, um, you probably
know, you know the best partsand the worst parts about me,
and so you, you see that, andthat's because there's a lot of
(11:10):
time even for you guys.
Like, outside relationships,friendships and inside
friendships are built on thewhole idea of trust.
Like you guys can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, then you can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, then you can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, and so it's a huge partthat we so just maybe breeze
(11:31):
over it.
We just kind of like, oh, it'snot that big of a deal, but it's
like no, no, no, I need you asmy friend to be able to look at
me and go, oh, I got you.
And when they speak truth, thatyou know that's truth.
There's no jealousy, there's nobackside to that at all.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And so earmuffs young ears, but I trust this asshole
in my life and whenever we firstmet, I never thought that I'd
be able to say that you knowyeah.
And so the yeah just over theyears, the trust that we built
from just getting to know eachother better and better and then
(12:10):
making sure that we're able tocall each other on our stuff has
definitely been helpful.
And it's happened a lot of times, like me and him have gotten
each other's faces a lot oftimes, but it's because we're
getting called on stuff that wedon't want to hear.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Or like when I know I've made a mistake honestly.
First person I call, or text isThomas and Miranda.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Like.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Hey guys, I messed, I messed up.
What should I do next?
Yeah, and just be able to trusta group of people like that is.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And I was just thinking too.
It's really helpful thatMiranda loves you too, just like
we love you.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh yeah, we have a group chat, just the three of us
yeah.
That's pretty much the only waywe all communicate with each
other is that group chat.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Throughout the week and Miranda is Thomas's wife.
I don't know if we actuallysaid that out loud, but Miranda
is your wife.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, my very hot wife.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
She's a beauty, yes, she is.
So it's crazy, though, that wedon't give that more attention
than what we should inrelationships, especially in
friendships, of saying I trustand I am there no matter what.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I was just thinking.
I don't mean to interrupt you,but a long-term friendship like
y'all's is kind of rare and thatyou're still friends eight or
nine years later.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
There's been moments where I moved out of state for
over a year and was pursuing ajob elsewhere, but we were able
to maintain that.
I mean we look at New Year'slast year.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
They actually surprised me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I got off of work right before New Year's night
and walked into my apartment.
I'm like who's this strange manin my apartment?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Hold up.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And then I realized it was my best friend.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Thomas, I just started freaking out.
I'm like where's?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
beer.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Let's get it going.
But, like at our age, havingfriends that are like long term
solid friends is kind of rare.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, it's interesting too, because when
you say that, the first wordthat comes to my mind is
intentional yeah, like it wouldhave been so easy.
Just because you guys startedas a friendship out of
convenience, because you'reclose to each other, but then
over time, like he's in Kentucky, you're here, it's very easy
(14:20):
for you to go.
Eh, we'll just let it go andnot give any attention or seek
out and be like I'm going topursue that friendship.
So I mean you get to make thatchoice, we all make that choice.
The same is true for in ourmarriages.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Like a thousand times over.
Like I can either choose tomake her my friend and invest in
that, or I can choose not to.
It's a simple thing.
Like and there's going to bedifferences.
You're not going to alwaysagree with each other.
You're not going to like youguys said, hey, we've been in
each other's faces, it's beenintense, but we got through it.
(14:55):
The same is true for marriage.
Like you're going to have timeswhere you butt heads and it's
frustrating, but at the sametime, you can be like okay,
we're going to get through it.
Yeah, I, I, I love you and Itrust you and I want to move
forward in this.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And so, in order to do that, to take those those
steps, yeah, but I feel likethat's hard to differentiate the
being a friend of the personyou're married with and then
being married yeah, romanticallyinvolved yeah because you want
to talk to them like they'rejust your friend.
(15:32):
But you also got to understandthat like for me, like hey,
that's my wife yeah wife, Like Ican't tell her to screw off or
anything like I would one of myfriends, because if I tell her
to do that then she's going totake it to heart because she's
thinking I'm saying that I don'twant anything to do with her.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So trying to figure out how to communicate as
marital partners versus friendsis, I feel like, a really hard
line to try and figure out.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It is because, like I mean, I'm the only girl in this
situation today but, like, Ihave friends that are close to
me and I would not use uglywords at my friends.
That's just not how I navigatea friendship, but that's a
reflection of how I'm with you,like you're my best friend and I
(16:23):
can imagine being ugly to you,and so the way I speak to you is
I mean, obviously you're myhusband, so I speak to you
differently, but it's areflection of how I would speak
to my close friends too, becauseI don't want to say ugly things
that will hurt you or damageour relationship.
So that kind of navigates how Icommunicate with you, if that
(16:45):
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it does so, thomas.
I want to go back to yourquestion because I thought it
was a good one.
Maybe not a question, but howdo you navigate from in that
marriage like okay, we'refriends but we're also husband
and wife?
What's your biggest, what's thebiggest hurdle for you in that?
(17:09):
Do you think?
I know that's kind of a deepquestion, to just throw off the
cuff.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I know, I don't know.
I I think probably dating wouldbe like, not like going out and
getting McDonald's or Taco Bellsorry, I said Taco Bell weird.
I remember talking that earlierbut.
(17:35):
I feel like there's a differencein between going and getting
McDonald's or Taco Bell versusactually going out, making the
time and the effort to go sitdown and eat somewhere.
It's like me and AJ we'll justgo get Taco Bell or McDonald's,
Like just go get fast food, butmaking sure to have the time of
(17:57):
it's just y'all in a place whereyou can talk.
And for some couples that mightI don't think it should be, but
it might only be to where youcan have those conversations in
public and so maybe you'resaying it's the intention behind
it.
So maybe you're saying it's theintention behind it.
(18:17):
Yeah, the intention that youput behind your marital
friendship versus yourfriendship with the person that
you started dating in thebeginning is important.
Like I'm friends with Miranda,but I am also friends with my
wife.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Wow, that's a good way to put it.
If that makes sense, it doesfriends with my wife.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, that's a good way, if that makes sense.
It does, cause I, I love, lovemy wife, but I also love Miranda
but the friendships that I havebetween those two people are
different.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of, if you think back to
when you were dating, I mean youbecame friends first.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, no, we absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, so I mean you and I like we hit it off right
off the bat with our silly humoror whatever it was, but to
remember how that feels to belike actually friends, and
that's important, yeah, it is,and I think I'm not saying that
you should have the exact samelevel of friendship in your
(19:12):
marriage that you have outsideyour marriage, Right, Like your
brother Corey, he and I arefriends, but we could literally
sit and just like we could siton a couch together and probably
never say a word and just be ashappy together as we could be.
I could be in the car and neverreally say a whole lot, but
like if I'm in the car with youand we ride more than 35 minutes
(19:32):
and I don't say something,you're going to be like why are
you mad at me?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What's wrong?
Yeah, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And so it's going to like I'm not saying those are
the same right, but I'm alsosaying that they're both very,
very needed parts of you.
Look at those relationships thesame way, like you're my friend
, so I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to trust you, I want to support you, I want to
help you in everything that wedo my friends outside of
marriage.
I want to do the same, for Ifeel like it's important too how
you choose your friends outsideyour marriage, because, I mean,
that may be a negativeinfluence that doesn't support
you in your marriage.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
There are some people that I and then there's some
people I don't pursue because Idon't want that negativity in my
life.
Yeah, like they're just alwaysupset, they're always mad,
they're always frustrated,something's always wrong.
I'm like I mean, we can look atit that way, but I'm a glass
kind of half full guy, likelet's see the good, let's look
(20:32):
at the good in in the world, andthen people friends should be a
support system.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They really should.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean you know you have yourshared interests or how you met
or whatever.
But that support system isimportant Because if I've got a
friend that I confide in or youknow I share things with, that
totally doesn't support you andsays bad things about you,
that's going to kind of changehow I look at you too.
(20:58):
It could, if I let it.
I mean, if you've got negativeinfluences that are, well, he
doesn't do this for you, whydoesn't he do this?
Or why didn't she say this?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
or whatever.
Yeah, you allow friends in yourlife, like as women.
The women may nag about like,oh my gosh, my husband does this
or he doesn't do this or hedoes this, and blah, blah blah.
Those things affect who you areLike.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You become the environment you hang out in and
those friendships are thoseenvironments, yeah, so that kind
of poses an interestingquestion to me, like does that
leave a space for those kind offriends outside your marriage,
or should you stay friends withthose people and let it
influence your marriage from theoutside and not have to involve
?
Or should you only surroundyourself with those friends that
are helping you, you know,build that marriage and build
(21:41):
good relationships inside yourmarriage?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
well, I think, for me personally, I'm I'm drawn to
people who are positive.
So if there's somebody who'sjust consistently negative
influence to me, I going to justnaturally kind of stray away
from that anyway.
Just because I'm like Greg, I'ma glass half full.
Look for the best, lookpositive, like that's just kind
of the filter or lens I use tolook at life.
(22:06):
So if I've got somebody that'sconsistently just just negative
and all the things that I I'mnot a fan of, I'm not going to
pursue that friendship.
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm not either.
I just don't need that, don'twant that.
It is interesting, I mean, whatare your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I feel like there has to be a line in your marriage
like how involved should thefriend be in the marriage?
I'm not coming over to Thomas'house every night and sometimes
I might be gone a little toolong, and then they'll shoot me
a text like hey, do you hate us?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's Miranda, honestly.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
There's other times where I'm like, no, I do need to
be involved, but sometimes Ithink people can maybe be too
involved.
Am.
I making decisions in Thomas'smarriage.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right?
No, I'm not and I don't need to.
I agree people can be tooinvolved.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, I do agree, it's a line and you don't want
to cross it or let people startto cross it.
That can hurt your marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah but you have to be really self-aware about that
too, like of where you're at,because it can.
But then you also have peoplewho only want their friends to
decide what goes on in theirmarriage, because they don't
want to deal with their ownproblems and they would rather
somebody outside deal with theissues and tell them what to do.
That's dangerous it is andinstead of confronting the
(23:27):
issues, because then you end upjust not happy and then you hate
each other.
Yeah, and nobody wants to hateeach other in their marriage or
a friendship because, you'relosing at that point.
You're losing a friend and apartner.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So equally hurt, just as bad, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It is an interesting way to look at it.
I don't, I guess I've neverallowed anybody to speak into
mom, but I'm sure a lot ofpeople do or have.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm sure a lot of people look at them getting
marital advice as help insteadof somebody speaking into it.
You know like they use theirother married friends as therapy
instead of using them to helpfigure out what the problem is.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, there's definitely aplace to like ask your friends
for advice.
There's also a place where youknow some things should remain
private.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Like there have been a lot of times where I text you
and I'm like, hey, miranda'sdoing this right now and it's
not like something like serious,but I'm like, and I don't know
what to do, like I'm, I'm justfrustrated and I'm not gonna
yell or hit my wife because I'mnot a piece of sorry again, but
on the flip side, though, what'sfunny is yeah, welcome sorry,
(24:50):
michael.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Welcome to thomas who's saying sorry to me um, but
on the flip side, because, likethe four of us sitting here at
this table, we are all friends.
I mean, you're our kid bestfriend, those kinds of things
I've gone golfing with Gregwithout.
Thomas.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Actually, yeah, we have.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We have golfed.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, we spend a lot of time together and you and
Miranda are, you know, prettymuch our closest friends too,
and so sometimes that that linegets a little bit blurred
because, like you were saying,sometimes you might text AJ, oh,
miranda's this or that.
Well, miranda will text me andsay your son is blah blah blah,
blah, blah yeah.
(25:33):
What do?
What do I do by asking me foradvice?
So, like, even in thissituation, this friendship
situation, like I might couldsay, well, why do you think he's
doing this?
And like, see that in anegative way, like my son's
perfect, he's never going towhatever.
But I'm like, oh no, yes, Iknow, I know, but here's what I
would suggest you do Blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
(25:53):
And she was like she'll text meback a couple of days later.
Okay, that works, thank you.
You know, like she seeks outadvice from me.
But like and she and I havetalked about a lot of times,
like we got to make sure thatwe're not mindful, because it's
weird, but just mindful is likewe are the parents and you are
the kids, but you're also ourfriends.
(26:14):
So that's been interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
We've actually talked about that quite a bit.
Well, it's just the having tofigure out that line is really
hard because, like you're saying, we're friends and all that
stuff and we're also newer inour marriage with a 10-month-old
and so us communicating isstill really hard.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Because it feels like every single time we sit down
to do anything just forourselves, lucy starts crying,
and then we have to not dealwith it, but like help her
figure out why she's crying,mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It makes conversations hard.
It does.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It makes conversations hard.
It does, and it really makes itto the point where sometimes
you feel like you're justfriends again, until you sit
down and be like hey, what's?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
going on.
Yeah, hey, remember I love youyeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, and obviously kids will do that to
you.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, I know yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We had a few of those we had a few of those.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But there's a season and this, what lulu's going?
You know she's just a baby andthat's her.
Her crying is trying tocommunicate something.
She'll figure it out.
But right now is a pretty goodtime for you to remember to be
best friends with miranda,because maybe the you know the
romantic side of marriage or thelovey-dovey or that's not
(27:37):
always easy.
But like, hey, you and I wereon the same team, like I'm in
this with you because you're mybest friend.
I think that's helpful.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes you got to remindthem I married you because I
liked you first.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I liked you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I always and I've said it a hundred times I
always reminded Jess that, hey,I love these kids, but these
kids are leaving by the ideasthat they leave one day.
So it's been you and it's justa reminder of, like, the long
game here.
Like let's think about the longgame, so, but so let's let's
talk about how do we on, how dowe unpack this and how do we
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give people something to walkaway from with the idea of
friendship?
Inside the marriage outside themarriage.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In marriage.
Like we were just saying, it'simportant to remember that even
when things get hard.
Like you were my friend first.
I had to develop a friendshipwith you before I realized, no,
I actually like this guy.
I had to develop a friendshipwith you before I realized, no,
I actually like this guy.
So just to remember, like you,you were intentional about
building a friendship at first,or you should have been, I would
(28:43):
say, I mean, that's a differentstory.
But like you were my friendbefore I fell in love with you.
So just to make sure we canremember like we're actually
friends.
But sometimes the other stuffmakes it more complicated.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And just know, interest change.
Yeah, like, the things you'reinterested in now are when you
started, maybe different thanthey are now, and that's okay
too.
That's kind of fun that you getto find those with them.
Kind of adventure, because asyou grow, you mature, you change
.
Things change, yeah, and soit's good to seek those out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I agree.
How about outside friendship,fellas?
What would you say?
Give me a kind of good walkaway synopsis of like hey well,
here's a good characteristics ofour two characteristics of what
a good friend should be.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Respectful of boundaries.
Yeah, that's a good one you canhave a friend that pushes you
into the wrong places and pushesyou into the right places and
that can be hard to teeter.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, I agree, we want to have fun.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
We've had some fun times.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We've had a lot of fun times, but then we've had to
come back from the fun timesand realize that we probably
shouldn't have done what we didright, but you know that comes
with age and maturity.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, that comes with, like, what stage in life you're
in right now, right, but you'reable to maintain those
boundaries as I mean, you'reliterally growing up together
still, yeah, so that's a reallythat's a good one.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I feel like being able to trust whoever you're
friends with, definitely becauseyou don't want to tell them
something that needs to stay inbetween the two of you, that
they're going to go and tellsomebody else yeah, you know and
making sure that, like wheneveryou tell them thoughts that
(30:42):
you've had or anything like that, like your friends need to be
and especially best friends needto be accountability partners,
that you can keep.
Whenever you do your messed upthings or have your messed up
thoughts, you can tell them andthen they'll help you through it
instead of holy shit.
Did you hear what so-and-sosaid?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
you know, like that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It doesn't need to be that way.
Yeah, yeah yeah well, and two,I mean and I have it on my
little pitiful notes, but fun incapital letters.
Yes, that's what brings friendstogether, both outside the
marriage friends and when you'remarried to your best friend.
Yeah, just remember to have funand why it's fun to be together
(31:22):
.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And if you hadn't laughed together and had fun
together, then that ought to beyour goal this week, when you're
listening to this your goalought to be able to like I'm
going to go hang out with mysignificant other and we're
going to have fun.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
that fun looks like Like.
What's crazy is all of us thefive of us were sitting in here
laughing at each other.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I literally was hurting.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I had tears streaming down my face, yeah, before we
started the podcast, and it wasjust because we're together and
being ridiculous yeah just beingidiots together, just having
fun and so like that's a hugepart of relationships is to
laugh together and have some fun, and if you don't know what
that is or looks like, then godiscover that, go figure it out,
because that's a it's abeautiful gift that all our
(32:08):
relationships should have likethe fun right now for me, and
miranda is sitting on the couchwhile we're putting Lucy to
sleep and watching the RyanTrahan doing his 50 states in 50
days.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Oh yeah, shout out, shout out.
Ryan Trahan, we got to watch afew of those with y'all on
vacation.
It was fun.
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's what we find fun.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But see, you found that in this stage of life and
you know.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
This stage of life sucks for us.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No it doesn't.
This stage of life is difficult.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And finding something that we can sit down and enjoy
together and talk about once thevideo is over with has been fun
for us.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I think on another topic of fun is you have to
redefine what fun is.
Oh gosh, yeah.
There's been nights where Ijust really want to hang out
with Thomas.
We maybe want to crack, youknow, open a bottle of bourbon,
but what do we do while we openthat bottle of bourbon?
I'm sitting there full enclosedwith him and his wife.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You do, you do help with the baby Lulu's laundry.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
But it's mainly so him and I can go drink a little
quicker.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Right, I mean fun Right, just to be, that's true.
The fun before the fun, yeah,so you got to redefine what fun
is.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You do yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It really is and it will change, and that's okay too
.
Like fun for us sometimes is Ijust want to crash on the couch
and door dash food.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Like I don we get off the couch.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Don't want to do anything, I want them to bring
the food to here, and we'regoing to powerhouse to a series.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
If they can bring it in the house and serve it to you
, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
And we just veg out and watch an entire series of a
show.
Yeah, sometimes that's fun.
Yeah, and sometimes it's likeif I don't get out of this house
, I'm going to tear some stuffup, Lose your mind.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, Early on in our marriage we literally redid
furniture for fun.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, and then you bailed on me and your fun became
my job.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I did not yeah, because it was fun.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Jess would post pictures and she'd be like oh,
you have four tables you need tobuild this weekend Two side
tables.
Yeah, so you started and I waslike wait a minute, this is my
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I don't want to build furniture, the.
This did continue after I wentback to school to be a teacher,
but but that was fun for beforethat part.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, it was, it was fun before that.
Yeah, that was just cool andthat.
So I I mean again, we talkabout seasons, but those things
I think redefining that andfiguring out like from, for me,
if I hear there's live musicsomewhere at a winery, I'm going
to automatically know that'sgoing to be fun for Jess Sold,
like that's a good thing.
(34:42):
Yeah, if there's live music andit's outside, we're just there.
Both of us are there.
We're just like okay, cool,that sounds fun.
That's rubbed off on you,miranda, and so it's just a, but
knowing that and your friendsand knowing what that is is a
huge part of that.
Yeah, good word.
Anything else to add before wewrap it up and get on out.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
High five to us and myself for not having a heart
attack about having notes, nothaving notes.
This was actually.
This was what felt like a sillyidea earlier or yesterday.
It was like, actually no, thishas been really great yeah, it's
been fun having these guys onwith us would you say we BS this
episode no, I think you did agreat job actually great
(35:26):
questions great insight yes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean Thomas's language.
Now we got to click the thebutton down there for the beep
him out anyway.
So thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Now we got to click the button down there and then
beep him out.
Yeah, Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
so thank you guys for listening.
The walk away is friendshipsare important.
Make sure you chase those, Makesure you kind of be real with
yourself.
Figure those out.
If it's redefining fun if it'sjust building those
relationships and friendships.
So thank you, guys, for joining, thank you for liking and
(35:58):
sharing our podcast.
As we continue to do these andcontinue to grow, follow us on
all our socials Like, comment,share, talk, trash to us,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
We'd love to hear it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I mean, I'd rather you not do that, but it's okay,
you can DM us Do that in the DMsection.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, not out there.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So love you guys.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Uh, you guys want to say bye all right, no, it's just
thanks for having us.
Yeah, thanks so much, awesomeall right, see you guys later.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Why can't we be friends?
No, no, that's not it, I forgot.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I was going to go Welcome to the podcast.
That's what I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
When I started singing.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I was like Should we?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
sing.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
What are we?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
doing first he was like on the mic.
Some lessons for you.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wow, okay, I have to use that mic man?
Yeah, exactly.
Stop, does my hair look allright, you look great bro, Like
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
A thousand dollars Just a thousand, not a million,
bucks, but you 24.50.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So low, it's better than 55 bucks, man, I mean, come
on.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You're like $1,000.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Hey, there's a lot I need for 20 bucks I have to
offer it to you what Think about1,000.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh God, I'm hurting.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Maybe it helps the stakes.
Oh yeah, Good.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's like 1,000 bucks .
Hey guys, what's up?
I'm Greg.
I hope you guys are ready tounpack and get into some good
conversations today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And I'm Jess, and this is our podcast Baggage
Claim.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Welcome to Baggage Claim people.
I get it.
That's a little bit of aninteresting start for us.
So, wherever you're at, ifyou're new here, welcome.
(00:37):
If you're not, hey, this isyour regular place.
You know what to do.
Grab your drink If you're new.
Grab your drink, your favoritedrink, whatever it is.
And I'm going to say drink onemore time before we get in and
just pull up to the table, soyou bet she's gonna get a drink
first.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Get a drink, we're all about drink, get you a drink
?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
no, we're not drinking.
Every time I say drink, that'snot that, um, so we.
So, if you haven't figured out,uh, today we're gonna talk
about friendship, yeah, and sowe decided to.
You know why not shake it upand throw a big old curveball?
Yeah, and see what happens?
Because we're 22, 23 episodesin uh still doing this.
(01:22):
Uh, they hadn't kicked us offthe internet yet, which which
I'm pretty excited about, so wesaid you know why not?
Let's do something fun.
So we have.
If you listen to our otherpodcast, we had the Peanut
Gallery, who was just over there.
We had our live audience, whowas just over there in the
coolers.
Well, they made their way fromthe coolers.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So they're back.
We've got Tweedledee andTweedledum here with us.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They are at the table , with us Pulled up to the table
.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Also known as Thomas, our oldest son, and AJ, his
best friend, our faux son.
Yeah, so AJ's kind of— Ourpretend son.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, he's part of the family, yeah, he is very
much when he starts dating.
If we don't get to meet thatperson, we get kind of upset.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We also get veto power.
Yeah, yeah, we've exercised it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Jess is a little more picky than.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
AJ is, I am, but you know it's all right, I'm picky
for my boys.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So yeah, just so you know.
Sorry about that.
So, but we've invited thembecause we're talking about
friends.
They've been friends since highschool.
Yeah, talking about friends,they've been friends since high
school.
So high school they're out.
One's married and EMTfirefighter.
One flies planes for a living.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He's actually a professional pilot.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He's a professional pilot for private jets.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Captain, also a bachelor.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He's also single.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, just throw that in there.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Private jets.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Captain, also a bachelor.
He's also single.
Yes, he's also Just throw thatin there.
He is not married and does nothave a kid, no, so these guys
have been friends, and so wewant to talk about friendship
and marriage, but we also wantedto talk about friendship in the
sense of those that we surroundwith us, and so that's why we
have these guys at the tablewith us tonight, and so we can
(03:06):
talk about that, what that lookslike, even for us as married
couples, and then what it meansfor us also, and so you guys can
jump in, speak into any of thatthat you want to.
So tonight or today or whateverthe crap it is, it's just going
to be fun and we're just goingto have a good time with it.
(03:29):
Yeah, it's so fun because I haveno notes in my handy dandy
notebook and you know how much Ilove that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, jess is freaking out right now, so if
you're, listening.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There's just words, just single words, written on
her notebook, and she's gettinganxiety and sweating as she
looks at it, literally.
So let's jump in.
There are two types offriendships, I think, that are
important for our lives.
That should be a part of ourlives.
There's one that I heard thisdoctor that I follow I don't
know his name so I'm not goingto say it, I can't remember it
(03:56):
Follow him on TikTok, but hemade a statement which just
really resonated with me and Ithought about it and you and I
have talked about it a lot.
It said marriages that reallylast, that stand the test of
time, that go through conflict,that have hard times, the ones
that make it are because theyare friends, and so friendship
is a huge deal when it comes tomarriage.
(04:16):
But we also believe thatfriendship outside of marriage
is also a really big part ofactually being able to be
friends inside your marriage,because those are two distinctly
different areas but also very,very important for us as couples
being married.
Would you agree?
Okay, so we always say so.
(04:39):
You guys, tell us a little bitand this is Thomas and AJ tell
us a little bit about yourfriendship.
What kind of don't?
Okay, this is a podcast that'sgoing on the internet, so be
careful.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh so, but tell us a little bit about how you guys
connected, became friends andhow that's grown over the over
the years yeah, so when me andaj first met each other, we were
working at the same restaurantand we hated each other over a
girl that'd be a light word,honestly yeah, hate is
(05:13):
definitely a light word for howwe felt about each other, um,
and over a girl, over a girl.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
How silly is that now .
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It feels so silly now because neither of us even have
anything to do with that girlanymore.
No, and yeah, I guess just overtime, talking about the
situation, realized that it wasstupid A lot of cooler talks.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, really cooled us down.
Yeah, literally figured,literally cooled us down.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The smokehouse was hot yeah.
So yeah, you guys worked at abarbecue restaurant together.
You met there Some girl youboth liked, so you had that
instant conflict.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, he liked her and I ended up dating her Whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Whoa Okay, is that how it went?
I just fooled with anopportunity.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, so all right, okay, is that how
it went?
I just I, just I, just I, justI, just I, just I, just I, just
I, just I, just I, just I, justI, just I, just I, just I, just
I just I, just, I, just, I, just, I, just, I, just I just I,
just I, just I, just I, just Ijust.
I, just I In the mic.
No, what did you say?
You can't hear unless you talkin the mic.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Enemies to lover trope, oh okay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So well said, jess, you went from enemies to best
friends.
Yes, it's a bromance.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's a bromance.
It is definitely a bromance.
That's a great quote.
Yeah, it's a great quote.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm so confused.
Thank, that's a great quote.
Yeah, that's a great quote.
I'm so confused, thank you.
All right, so there's no longera girl.
You guys become friends.
What kind of grew thatfriendship or kept you guys
together through this time?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It was definitely the job, just us working together,
just the time we spent Obviouslythem not working out definitely
helped To grow the relationshipokay gotcha, one ends, one
begins you know right so thatwas definitely a pivotal point
there, gotcha but I mean, we'reeight, nine years later and
(07:18):
y'all still just as much enjoyhanging out together.
I guess we just realized wereally had a lot more in common.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You do.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Than not, I mean yeah .
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, Now did you discover that over time?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It just took you guys some time to get there for that
.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I definitely would say so Because, as any like new
friendship goes, there's alwaysthose awkward points when you're
trying to figure out do I likethis person or do I just like
them because there's somebody Ican hang out with for what I'm?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
doing right, right, which was work for us?
Yeah, and in most cases,literally most friendships,
especially as you're an adult,most of your friendships, think
about now like the only people Ihang out with, either the
people I live with or the peopleI work with, like that's,
that's it, like there's not alot of interaction outside of
that.
So a lot of times work becomesthat default for friends.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So I mean it's definitely interesting because
we're in definitely differentfields, but we've managed that
over time still as well.
Not a lot of common interest insome parts, but more in others,
and I think that is what hashelped us grow together.
Interesting, interesting,that's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So finding those common denominators, even
through all of that it's pretty,pretty interesting.
You know there's statisticallyit talks about like in business.
I love to read business booksand it always talks about this
is one of the core principles ofall of that.
If you want to see a successfulperson, look at the people who
they surround themselves with,and so who we allow into our
(08:46):
lives to be our friends has ahuge impact on who we are as
people Like.
Some people push us, somepeople encourage us to be just
better versions of who we are,and that's always a cool thing,
I think, to see.
Do you?
Would you guys agree with that?
Oh, have you, have you guysseen any example of that in your
relationship?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean definitely because, like for me,
I have a wife and a kid and somy, I guess, work ethic towards
what I wanted was different thanwhat AJ wanted.
Ethic towards what I wanted wasdifferent than what AJ wanted,
because AJ wanted to besuccessful before he started his
wife and kid relationship, andso watching him grow to be
(09:31):
successful has driven me to makesure that I'm always trying to
be better for myself okay yeah,and then I don't want to speak
for you, but like I feel likeyou watching me wants you to
drive, to have a happyrelationship like I have,
because I mean, you helped mefind my wife.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Definitely on the flip side, just watching Thomas
and Miranda and their love grow.
I mean, your daughter, she's mygoddaughter, I love her.
Probably not as much as youguys do, I mean that'd be hard
to compare it to a parent.
It's definitely a lot more.
Probably not as much as youguys do, I mean that'd be hard
to compare it to a parent.
It's definitely a lot more.
But just being able to be inyour life and watch her grow up
and, you know, be successful forher as well, because I'm in
that position where you know,unfortunately, I think whatever
(10:13):
happened, that's my daughter,yeah, so just that's how much I
love I have for you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And that's also another factor.
This is interesting too,because you think of that as
adults, like as you startadulting and you you get into
careers, you get into thosethings of of life and you're
like man who's in my life thatspeaks truth to me, who's in my
life that can speak love into me, and sometimes, like we all are
in those valleys, it's like Ineed some encouragement.
And then when we screw up or wedo something bad, somebody that
you can call and say I got you.
Like valleys, it's like I needsome encouragement.
And then when we screw up or wedo something bad, somebody that
you can call and say I got youlike it's all good.
(10:49):
Yeah, like those, thoserelationships are so important.
We we talk about those outsidethe marriage, but we rarely talk
about it in the sense of amarriage like, um, you probably
know, you know the best partsand the worst parts about me,
and so you, you see that, andthat's because there's a lot of
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time even for you guys.
Like, outside relationships,friendships and inside
friendships are built on thewhole idea of trust.
Like you guys can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, then you can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, then you can trust eachother that what you're saying is
true, and so it's a huge partthat we so just maybe breeze
(11:31):
over it.
We just kind of like, oh, it'snot that big of a deal, but it's
like no, no, no, I need you asmy friend to be able to look at
me and go, oh, I got you.
And when they speak truth, thatyou know that's truth.
There's no jealousy, there's nobackside to that at all.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And so earmuffs young ears, but I trust this asshole
in my life and whenever we firstmet, I never thought that I'd
be able to say that you knowyeah.
And so the yeah just over theyears, the trust that we built
from just getting to know eachother better and better and then
(12:10):
making sure that we're able tocall each other on our stuff has
definitely been helpful.
And it's happened a lot of times, like me and him have gotten
each other's faces a lot oftimes, but it's because we're
getting called on stuff that wedon't want to hear.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Or like when I know I've made a mistake honestly.
First person I call, or text isThomas and Miranda.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Like.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Hey guys, I messed, I messed up.
What should I do next?
Yeah, and just be able to trusta group of people like that is.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And I was just thinking too.
It's really helpful thatMiranda loves you too, just like
we love you.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh yeah, we have a group chat, just the three of us
yeah.
That's pretty much the only waywe all communicate with each
other is that group chat.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Throughout the week and Miranda is Thomas's wife.
I don't know if we actuallysaid that out loud, but Miranda
is your wife.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, my very hot wife.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
She's a beauty, yes, she is.
So it's crazy, though, that wedon't give that more attention
than what we should inrelationships, especially in
friendships, of saying I trustand I am there no matter what.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I was just thinking.
I don't mean to interrupt you,but a long-term friendship like
y'all's is kind of rare and thatyou're still friends eight or
nine years later.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
There's been moments where I moved out of state for
over a year and was pursuing ajob elsewhere, but we were able
to maintain that.
I mean we look at New Year'slast year.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
They actually surprised me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I got off of work right before New Year's night
and walked into my apartment.
I'm like who's this strange manin my apartment?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Hold up.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And then I realized it was my best friend.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Thomas, I just started freaking out.
I'm like where's?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
beer.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Let's get it going.
But, like at our age, havingfriends that are like long term
solid friends is kind of rare.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, it's interesting too, because when
you say that, the first wordthat comes to my mind is
intentional yeah, like it wouldhave been so easy.
Just because you guys startedas a friendship out of
convenience, because you'reclose to each other, but then
over time, like he's in Kentucky, you're here, it's very easy
(14:20):
for you to go.
Eh, we'll just let it go andnot give any attention or seek
out and be like I'm going topursue that friendship.
So I mean you get to make thatchoice, we all make that choice.
The same is true for in ourmarriages.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Like a thousand times over.
Like I can either choose tomake her my friend and invest in
that, or I can choose not to.
It's a simple thing.
Like and there's going to bedifferences.
You're not going to alwaysagree with each other.
You're not going to like youguys said, hey, we've been in
each other's faces, it's beenintense, but we got through it.
(14:55):
The same is true for marriage.
Like you're going to have timeswhere you butt heads and it's
frustrating, but at the sametime, you can be like okay,
we're going to get through it.
Yeah, I, I, I love you and Itrust you and I want to move
forward in this.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And so, in order to do that, to take those those
steps, yeah, but I feel likethat's hard to differentiate the
being a friend of the personyou're married with and then
being married yeah, romanticallyinvolved yeah because you want
to talk to them like they'rejust your friend.
(15:32):
But you also got to understandthat like for me, like hey,
that's my wife yeah wife, Like Ican't tell her to screw off or
anything like I would one of myfriends, because if I tell her
to do that then she's going totake it to heart because she's
thinking I'm saying that I don'twant anything to do with her.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So trying to figure out how to communicate as
marital partners versus friendsis, I feel like, a really hard
line to try and figure out.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It is because, like I mean, I'm the only girl in this
situation today but, like, Ihave friends that are close to
me and I would not use uglywords at my friends.
That's just not how I navigatea friendship, but that's a
reflection of how I'm with you,like you're my best friend and I
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can imagine being ugly to you,and so the way I speak to you is
I mean, obviously you're myhusband, so I speak to you
differently, but it's areflection of how I would speak
to my close friends too, becauseI don't want to say ugly things
that will hurt you or damageour relationship.
So that kind of navigates how Icommunicate with you, if that
(16:45):
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it does so, thomas.
I want to go back to yourquestion because I thought it
was a good one.
Maybe not a question, but howdo you navigate from in that
marriage like okay, we'refriends but we're also husband
and wife?
What's your biggest, what's thebiggest hurdle for you in that?
(17:09):
Do you think?
I know that's kind of a deepquestion, to just throw off the
cuff.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I know, I don't know.
I I think probably dating wouldbe like, not like going out and
getting McDonald's or Taco Bellsorry, I said Taco Bell weird.
I remember talking that earlierbut.
(17:35):
I feel like there's a differencein between going and getting
McDonald's or Taco Bell versusactually going out, making the
time and the effort to go sitdown and eat somewhere.
It's like me and AJ we'll justgo get Taco Bell or McDonald's,
Like just go get fast food, butmaking sure to have the time of
(17:57):
it's just y'all in a place whereyou can talk.
And for some couples that mightI don't think it should be, but
it might only be to where youcan have those conversations in
public and so maybe you'resaying it's the intention behind
it.
So maybe you're saying it's theintention behind it.
(18:17):
Yeah, the intention that youput behind your marital
friendship versus yourfriendship with the person that
you started dating in thebeginning is important.
Like I'm friends with Miranda,but I am also friends with my
wife.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Wow, that's a good way to put it.
If that makes sense, it doesfriends with my wife.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, that's a good way, if that makes sense.
It does, cause I, I love, lovemy wife, but I also love Miranda
but the friendships that I havebetween those two people are
different.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of, if you think back to
when you were dating, I mean youbecame friends first.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, no, we absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, so I mean you and I like we hit it off right
off the bat with our silly humoror whatever it was, but to
remember how that feels to belike actually friends, and
that's important, yeah, it is,and I think I'm not saying that
you should have the exact samelevel of friendship in your
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marriage that you have outsideyour marriage, Right, Like your
brother Corey, he and I arefriends, but we could literally
sit and just like we could siton a couch together and probably
never say a word and just be ashappy together as we could be.
I could be in the car and neverreally say a whole lot, but
like if I'm in the car with youand we ride more than 35 minutes
(19:32):
and I don't say something,you're going to be like why are
you mad at me?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What's wrong?
Yeah, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And so it's going to like I'm not saying those are
the same right, but I'm alsosaying that they're both very,
very needed parts of you.
Look at those relationships thesame way, like you're my friend
, so I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to trust you, I want to support you, I want to
help you in everything that wedo my friends outside of
marriage.
I want to do the same, for Ifeel like it's important too how
you choose your friends outsideyour marriage, because, I mean,
that may be a negativeinfluence that doesn't support
you in your marriage.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
There are some people that I and then there's some
people I don't pursue because Idon't want that negativity in my
life.
Yeah, like they're just alwaysupset, they're always mad,
they're always frustrated,something's always wrong.
I'm like I mean, we can look atit that way, but I'm a glass
kind of half full guy, likelet's see the good, let's look
(20:32):
at the good in in the world, andthen people friends should be a
support system.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
They really should.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean you know you have yourshared interests or how you met
or whatever.
But that support system isimportant Because if I've got a
friend that I confide in or youknow I share things with, that
totally doesn't support you andsays bad things about you,
that's going to kind of changehow I look at you too.
(20:58):
It could, if I let it.
I mean, if you've got negativeinfluences that are, well, he
doesn't do this for you, whydoesn't he do this?
Or why didn't she say this?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
or whatever.
Yeah, you allow friends in yourlife, like as women.
The women may nag about like,oh my gosh, my husband does this
or he doesn't do this or hedoes this, and blah, blah blah.
Those things affect who you areLike.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You become the environment you hang out in and
those friendships are thoseenvironments, yeah, so that kind
of poses an interestingquestion to me, like does that
leave a space for those kind offriends outside your marriage,
or should you stay friends withthose people and let it
influence your marriage from theoutside and not have to involve
?
Or should you only surroundyourself with those friends that
are helping you, you know,build that marriage and build
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good relationships inside yourmarriage?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
well, I think, for me personally, I'm I'm drawn to
people who are positive.
So if there's somebody who'sjust consistently negative
influence to me, I going to justnaturally kind of stray away
from that anyway.
Just because I'm like Greg, I'ma glass half full.
Look for the best, lookpositive, like that's just kind
of the filter or lens I use tolook at life.
(22:06):
So if I've got somebody that'sconsistently just just negative
and all the things that I I'mnot a fan of, I'm not going to
pursue that friendship.
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm not either.
I just don't need that, don'twant that.
It is interesting, I mean, whatare your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I feel like there has to be a line in your marriage
like how involved should thefriend be in the marriage?
I'm not coming over to Thomas'house every night and sometimes
I might be gone a little toolong, and then they'll shoot me
a text like hey, do you hate us?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's Miranda, honestly.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
There's other times where I'm like, no, I do need to
be involved, but sometimes Ithink people can maybe be too
involved.
Am.
I making decisions in Thomas'smarriage.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right?
No, I'm not and I don't need to.
I agree people can be tooinvolved.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, I do agree, it's a line and you don't want
to cross it or let people startto cross it.
That can hurt your marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah but you have to be really self-aware about that
too, like of where you're at,because it can.
But then you also have peoplewho only want their friends to
decide what goes on in theirmarriage, because they don't
want to deal with their ownproblems and they would rather
somebody outside deal with theissues and tell them what to do.
That's dangerous it is andinstead of confronting the
(23:27):
issues, because then you end upjust not happy and then you hate
each other.
Yeah, and nobody wants to hateeach other in their marriage or
a friendship because, you'relosing at that point.
You're losing a friend and apartner.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So equally hurt, just as bad, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It is an interesting way to look at it.
I don't, I guess I've neverallowed anybody to speak into
mom, but I'm sure a lot ofpeople do or have.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm sure a lot of people look at them getting
marital advice as help insteadof somebody speaking into it.
You know like they use theirother married friends as therapy
instead of using them to helpfigure out what the problem is.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, there's definitely aplace to like ask your friends
for advice.
There's also a place where youknow some things should remain
private.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Like there have been a lot of times where I text you
and I'm like, hey, miranda'sdoing this right now and it's
not like something like serious,but I'm like, and I don't know
what to do, like I'm, I'm justfrustrated and I'm not gonna
yell or hit my wife because I'mnot a piece of sorry again, but
on the flip side, though, what'sfunny is yeah, welcome sorry,
(24:50):
michael.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Welcome to thomas who's saying sorry to me um, but
on the flip side, because, likethe four of us sitting here at
this table, we are all friends.
I mean, you're our kid bestfriend, those kinds of things
I've gone golfing with Gregwithout.
Thomas.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Actually, yeah, we have.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We have golfed.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, we spend a lot of time together and you and
Miranda are, you know, prettymuch our closest friends too,
and so sometimes that that linegets a little bit blurred
because, like you were saying,sometimes you might text AJ, oh,
miranda's this or that.
Well, miranda will text me andsay your son is blah blah blah,
blah, blah yeah.
(25:33):
What do?
What do I do by asking me foradvice?
So, like, even in thissituation, this friendship
situation, like I might couldsay, well, why do you think he's
doing this?
And like, see that in anegative way, like my son's
perfect, he's never going towhatever.
But I'm like, oh no, yes, Iknow, I know, but here's what I
would suggest you do Blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
(25:53):
And she was like she'll text meback a couple of days later.
Okay, that works, thank you.
You know, like she seeks outadvice from me.
But like and she and I havetalked about a lot of times,
like we got to make sure thatwe're not mindful, because it's
weird, but just mindful is likewe are the parents and you are
the kids, but you're also ourfriends.
(26:14):
So that's been interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
We've actually talked about that quite a bit.
Well, it's just the having tofigure out that line is really
hard because, like you're saying, we're friends and all that
stuff and we're also newer inour marriage with a 10-month-old
and so us communicating isstill really hard.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Because it feels like every single time we sit down
to do anything just forourselves, lucy starts crying,
and then we have to not dealwith it, but like help her
figure out why she's crying,mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It makes conversations hard.
It does.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It makes conversations hard.
It does, and it really makes itto the point where sometimes
you feel like you're justfriends again, until you sit
down and be like hey, what's?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
going on.
Yeah, hey, remember I love youyeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, and obviously kids will do that to
you.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, I know yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We had a few of those we had a few of those.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But there's a season and this, what lulu's going?
You know she's just a baby andthat's her.
Her crying is trying tocommunicate something.
She'll figure it out.
But right now is a pretty goodtime for you to remember to be
best friends with miranda,because maybe the you know the
romantic side of marriage or thelovey-dovey or that's not
(27:37):
always easy.
But like, hey, you and I wereon the same team, like I'm in
this with you because you're mybest friend.
I think that's helpful.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes you got to remindthem I married you because I
liked you first.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I liked you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I always and I've said it a hundred times I
always reminded Jess that, hey,I love these kids, but these
kids are leaving by the ideasthat they leave one day.
So it's been you and it's justa reminder of, like, the long
game here.
Like let's think about the longgame, so, but so let's let's
talk about how do we on, how dowe unpack this and how do we
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give people something to walkaway from with the idea of
friendship?
Inside the marriage outside themarriage.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In marriage.
Like we were just saying, it'simportant to remember that even
when things get hard.
Like you were my friend first.
I had to develop a friendshipwith you before I realized, no,
I actually like this guy.
I had to develop a friendshipwith you before I realized, no,
I actually like this guy.
So just to remember, like you,you were intentional about
building a friendship at first,or you should have been, I would
(28:43):
say, I mean, that's a differentstory.
But like you were my friendbefore I fell in love with you.
So just to make sure we canremember like we're actually
friends.
But sometimes the other stuffmakes it more complicated.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And just know, interest change.
Yeah, like, the things you'reinterested in now are when you
started, maybe different thanthey are now, and that's okay
too.
That's kind of fun that you getto find those with them.
Kind of adventure, because asyou grow, you mature, you change
.
Things change, yeah, and soit's good to seek those out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I agree.
How about outside friendship,fellas?
What would you say?
Give me a kind of good walkaway synopsis of like hey well,
here's a good characteristics ofour two characteristics of what
a good friend should be.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Respectful of boundaries.
Yeah, that's a good one you canhave a friend that pushes you
into the wrong places and pushesyou into the right places and
that can be hard to teeter.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, I agree, we want to have fun.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
We've had some fun times.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We've had a lot of fun times, but then we've had to
come back from the fun timesand realize that we probably
shouldn't have done what we didright, but you know that comes
with age and maturity.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, that comes with, like, what stage in life you're
in right now, right, but you'reable to maintain those
boundaries as I mean, you'reliterally growing up together
still, yeah, so that's a reallythat's a good one.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I feel like being able to trust whoever you're
friends with, definitely becauseyou don't want to tell them
something that needs to stay inbetween the two of you, that
they're going to go and tellsomebody else yeah, you know and
making sure that, like wheneveryou tell them thoughts that
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you've had or anything like that, like your friends need to be
and especially best friends needto be accountability partners,
that you can keep.
Whenever you do your messed upthings or have your messed up
thoughts, you can tell them andthen they'll help you through it
instead of holy shit.
Did you hear what so-and-sosaid?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
you know, like that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It doesn't need to be that way.
Yeah, yeah yeah well, and two,I mean and I have it on my
little pitiful notes, but fun incapital letters.
Yes, that's what brings friendstogether, both outside the
marriage friends and when you'remarried to your best friend.
Yeah, just remember to have funand why it's fun to be together
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.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And if you hadn't laughed together and had fun
together, then that ought to beyour goal this week, when you're
listening to this your goalought to be able to like I'm
going to go hang out with mysignificant other and we're
going to have fun.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
that fun looks like Like.
What's crazy is all of us thefive of us were sitting in here
laughing at each other.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I literally was hurting.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I had tears streaming down my face, yeah, before we
started the podcast, and it wasjust because we're together and
being ridiculous yeah just beingidiots together, just having
fun and so like that's a hugepart of relationships is to
laugh together and have some fun, and if you don't know what
that is or looks like, then godiscover that, go figure it out,
because that's a it's abeautiful gift that all our
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relationships should have likethe fun right now for me, and
miranda is sitting on the couchwhile we're putting Lucy to
sleep and watching the RyanTrahan doing his 50 states in 50
days.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Oh yeah, shout out, shout out.
Ryan Trahan, we got to watch afew of those with y'all on
vacation.
It was fun.
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's what we find fun.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But see, you found that in this stage of life and
you know.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
This stage of life sucks for us.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No it doesn't.
This stage of life is difficult.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And finding something that we can sit down and enjoy
together and talk about once thevideo is over with has been fun
for us.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I think on another topic of fun is you have to
redefine what fun is.
Oh gosh, yeah.
There's been nights where Ijust really want to hang out
with Thomas.
We maybe want to crack, youknow, open a bottle of bourbon,
but what do we do while we openthat bottle of bourbon?
I'm sitting there full enclosedwith him and his wife.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You do, you do help with the baby Lulu's laundry.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
But it's mainly so him and I can go drink a little
quicker.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Right, I mean fun Right, just to be, that's true.
The fun before the fun, yeah,so you got to redefine what fun
is.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You do yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It really is and it will change, and that's okay too
.
Like fun for us sometimes is Ijust want to crash on the couch
and door dash food.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Like I don we get off the couch.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Don't want to do anything, I want them to bring
the food to here, and we'regoing to powerhouse to a series.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
If they can bring it in the house and serve it to you
, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
And we just veg out and watch an entire series of a
show.
Yeah, sometimes that's fun.
Yeah, and sometimes it's likeif I don't get out of this house
, I'm going to tear some stuffup, Lose your mind.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, Early on in our marriage we literally redid
furniture for fun.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, and then you bailed on me and your fun became
my job.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I did not yeah, because it was fun.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Jess would post pictures and she'd be like oh,
you have four tables you need tobuild this weekend Two side
tables.
Yeah, so you started and I waslike wait a minute, this is my
Saturday.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I don't want to build furniture, the.
This did continue after I wentback to school to be a teacher,
but but that was fun for beforethat part.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, it was, it was fun before that.
Yeah, that was just cool andthat.
So I I mean again, we talkabout seasons, but those things
I think redefining that andfiguring out like from, for me,
if I hear there's live musicsomewhere at a winery, I'm going
to automatically know that'sgoing to be fun for Jess Sold,
like that's a good thing.
(34:42):
Yeah, if there's live music andit's outside, we're just there.
Both of us are there.
We're just like okay, cool,that sounds fun.
That's rubbed off on you,miranda, and so it's just a, but
knowing that and your friendsand knowing what that is is a
huge part of that.
Yeah, good word.
Anything else to add before wewrap it up and get on out.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
High five to us and myself for not having a heart
attack about having notes, nothaving notes.
This was actually.
This was what felt like a sillyidea earlier or yesterday.
It was like, actually no, thishas been really great yeah, it's
been fun having these guys onwith us would you say we BS this
episode no, I think you did agreat job actually great
(35:26):
questions great insight yes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean Thomas's language.
Now we got to click the thebutton down there for the beep
him out anyway.
So thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Now we got to click the button down there and then
beep him out.
Yeah, Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
so thank you guys for listening.
The walk away is friendshipsare important.
Make sure you chase those, Makesure you kind of be real with
yourself.
Figure those out.
If it's redefining fun if it'sjust building those
relationships and friendships.
So thank you, guys, for joining, thank you for liking and
(35:58):
sharing our podcast.
As we continue to do these andcontinue to grow, follow us on
all our socials Like, comment,share, talk, trash to us,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
We'd love to hear it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I mean, I'd rather you not do that, but it's okay,
you can DM us Do that in the DMsection.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, not out there.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So love you guys.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Uh, you guys want to say bye all right, no, it's just
thanks for having us.
Yeah, thanks so much, awesomeall right, see you guys later.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Why can't we be friends?
No, no, that's not it, I forgot.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I was going to go Welcome to the podcast.
That's what I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
When I started singing.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I was like Should we?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
sing.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
What are we?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
doing first he was like on the mic.
Some lessons for you.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wow, okay, I have to use that mic man?
Yeah, exactly.
Stop, does my hair look allright, you look great bro, Like
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
A thousand dollars Just a thousand, not a million,
bucks, but you 24.50.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So low, it's better than 55 bucks, man, I mean, come
on.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You're like $1,000.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Hey, there's a lot I need for 20 bucks I have to
offer it to you what Think about1,000.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh God, I'm hurting.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Maybe it helps the stakes.
Oh yeah, Good.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's like 1,000 bucks .
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