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March 9, 2025 57 mins

In this deep-dive episode, Matt Covey, Nelson Medrano, and Matt Wlos tackle one of the most controversial topics in dog training: dominance. Does it actually exist, or is it an outdated myth? What do the latest studies on wolves say, and how do they translate to our understanding of dogs?

First, we all learn that Nelson actually does drink water, and then the trio dives into the heart of the debate, unpacking the historical research on dominance in wolf packs—studies that have shaped (and reshaped) how we think about dog behavior. They explore the work of early researchers like Konrad Lorenz and David Mech, discussing how shifting perspectives on wolf hierarchy have influenced the way trainers approach dog training today.

A key question emerges: Are force-free trainers correct in saying that dominance doesn’t exist at all, or has the term simply been overused and misunderstood? Matt, Nelson, and Matt break it down, challenging the notion that hierarchy is absent in social structures—whether in wolves, humans, or even Pokémon card collectors (yes, that analogy happens).

They also explore the extreme interpretations of dominance theory that have given the term a bad reputation, from outdated dominance-based training methods to bizarre practices like spitting in a dog’s food to "assert leadership." The trainers emphasize that while dominance is real, it doesn’t mean harsh corrections or outdated "alpha" methods are necessary. Instead, they advocate for balanced training—a combination of positive reinforcement and well-timed corrections—to create clear, effective communication with dogs.

The episode also raises an important distinction: If submission exists in dogs, then by definition, so must dominance. But does using the word "dominance" create unnecessary division in the training world? Could reframing the conversation around control, structure, and leadership help bridge the gap between force-free and balanced trainers?

Throughout the discussion, the team highlights common myths, the importance of context in training, and why the ultimate goal is a well-adjusted, confident dog—not a submissive one. They even dive into the ethics of different training approaches, questioning whether some force-free methods (like withholding food to increase motivation) are truly less aversive than a mild correction.

As always, the episode wraps up with an open invitation for force-free trainers to weigh in. If you disagree, they want to hear from you! Drop a comment and join the conversation.

Topics covered in this episode:
✔️ What dominance actually means in dog behavior
✔️ The history of wolf research and how it affects modern training
✔️ The "alpha wolf" myth—what did David Mech really say?
✔️ The difference between dominance-based training and balanced training
✔️ Myths about dominance—like why your dog sitting on the couch isn’t a power play
✔️ The psychology of submission and control in social animals
✔️ Why the debate between force-free and balanced trainers might be more about marketing than methodology
✔️ How misunderstanding dominance leads to flawed training philosophies

Final Takeaway:
Whether you’re a professional trainer or just a dog owner looking to understand your pup better, this episode will challenge your thinking and give you a more nuanced perspective on dominance, leadership, and effective training methods.

Tune in now and let us know—where do you stand on the dominance debate?

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