May 11, 2025 • 49 mins
In this episode of Balanced Training with Suburban K9, the hosts engage in a discussion about various dog training topics, including resource guarding, managing skittish behavior, the rules around dogs on furniture, and the importance of socialization. They emphasize the need for dog owners to understand their pets' body language and to intervene when necessary to ensure safe interactions. The conversation also covers practical training tips for puppies, including recall and attention commands, and the significance of establishing clear rules for dog behavior in the home.
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Welcome to balanced training with Suburban canine Nelson
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everybody. Mr. Floss Everybody.
I was still doing introductions and Nelson just cuts me just cut
you off. Right?
Right direction. I was like only I could
introduce myself. That's a pretty bold move but
you do have rules like you don'tlike people to look you in the
eye, right? Yeah.
Like you like the Queen of England basically.
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That's right. Yep.
Stand up and look down. Don't look me in the eye.
Don't watch me eat, that's creepy.
Yeah. Don't watch me.
Eat my pepperoni pizza. That's right.
So today we are doing question and answer, right?
We are, Oh, I thought I thought we were talking about household
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guard dogs, and You, I mean, theagenda originally said something
about household guard, dog, so Ijust figured that's what we were
doing it for sure. Hey, for everyone listening, if
that episode comes out, you'll be surprised because we, we have
it written down and no one knowswhat it even means.
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So we have an episode to film, that's it's gonna be a tough
thing to film. So to be fair, I gave up with my
definition, was we just haven't agreed on what it is.
Yeah. So, we're not doing that.
We're not just gonna wing it andgo for it.
No, we're gonna do. We're gonna wing a question and
answer. Well, we didn't Wing because I
know you prepared. I was gonna say, can we just
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like whoa, let's hit pause. Bloss is the one telling us to
Wing something. This is fantastic.
Hey, just go for it. Right.
You know, he's got a list of questions and we're going to
dive into it. Let's do it.
Let's give the people what they want.
More Q&A. Let's do it Q&A.
So, I didn't come up with a theme, this time.
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These are just some of, the, thenewest questions that have come
up, I actually took them from her YouTube, so I'm gonna throw
him out there. You guys can answer them and
we'll just get into it. So this was on your most recent
video that was on resource guarding.
And this person says, is it too late to stop a six-year-old, dog
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from resource guarding. He takes things, he has to, he
takes things to his secret place, and we'll come after you.
If you go near him. I like how he has a secret lair.
Yeah, is it like man, sir? It must be.
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Dark little damp, you know, Fortress of Solitude.
I like it. So what I would I can just I
guess Start this one. When I would tell a client is
whether it's like two years old or six years old or eight years
old. I don't see much of a difference
when we're stopping resource Garden.
You know, obviously be better toprevent it and if the dog is
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just starting it in there, like nine months old and they're just
trying out this new Behavior. That's better than two, but two
versus six, I don't see much of a difference.
And as trainers, we all see thisall the time with adult dogs.
So the short answer would be. No, it's not too late at all.
Can absolutely do that with an older dog.
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I think the dog in that video. Well actually, I don't I don't
even met at that one time for filming but it's not young.
I mean it's multiple years old. Yeah.
Yeah. So what I would say is
absolutely not not too old at all.
The amount of work to me is justgoing to come down to the dog's
personality because there's somedogs who are nine months old
that are going to be way more work to fix than some dogs that
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are six years old. So I wouldn't even say it's
gonna be harder because of the age because we have no idea
without knowing the dog. So definitely doable definitely
something that can be worked on and I wouldn't stress about the
age so you don't think you couldjust throw out a broad statement
that an older dog's gonna have more negative experience and
it's going to make it a little bit tougher.
I mean, I agree that a younger dog could have a more severe
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case but there's going to be a lot of issues that have come up
over those six years. So, I mean, it should prolong it
a little bit. Probably, don't you think?
You know, I was thinking that too but that's also dependent on
on the owner's. Right.
You know, there's no question that they've had way more time
to be able to practice this typeof behavior, kind of get get
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good at it, get into their own, but how many of our clients just
Have heard the growl or saw the look and like, oh yeah, no,
he'll bite you. If you go for that and then
never try it ever again. And their whole game is Just
avoidance, you know, those dogs aren't aren't having.
Negative or positive experienceswith guarding because you know,
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they they win just by default. Yeah.
I think. to serve law said, is it's hard to compare you can, of
course, say it's probably going to be harder for that, dog to
fix it when they're sick, then when that dog was two, and it
was a new Behavior, but that's kind of a meaningless statement
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because that doesn't speak to the difficulty in the slightest.
It's gonna be harder than it would have been.
But it if your neighbor has a similar issue, your neighbor's
dog years could be 10 times easier or 10 times harder,
regardless of age. So to me, I just wouldn't put
much emphasis on that, I'd say, okay he's sick.
What's his personality like Plusyou could be helping him in the
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long run because you're supposedto be teaching your older Dogs,
new stuff to help fight off. Alzheimer's one.
Yeah, doggy Alzheimer's. Yeah, I think the most important
answer though, is that it's not too late, right?
And I think we all agree on that.
So, six years old, you can definitely work on this issue.
You can definitely make progresswith it.
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Yeah. And call us whoever you are will
help you call into the show. We should have them as a live
caller. There you go.
Now, we're talking, I'm having to act as the live caller and
read these questions. And if you haven't noticed, I
keep looking over at my screen because the next one is long and
I feel like I'm gonna screw it up.
But are you guys ready for it? Yep.
All right, here we go. So I have a very skittish with
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tease. Would you say skittish or
skittish with Ds? You think it's skittish is good.
Okay, I have a very skittish Vizsla who is coming along, but
is still very nervous about new things.
It took us six months to ride ina truck.
So we take it slow, he started to growl at my wife in the
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evening. When it's bedtime, like, he
doesn't want my wife to come to bed, both dogs sleep in bed with
us. But once she's in bed, he wants
to snuggle with her. So what up with the growling?
Could this get worse and he bites?
My wife, is he trying to protectme just like to know how to end
it. Can absolutely get worse.
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Like, I'd say one thing, Nelson.And then you take the answer
still, though, go for it. Just to give you detail.
I remember this person had reached out, like, six months
ago when they got that Vizsla onYouTube in a lot of fear, like,
it wouldn't drink water at all. So we had recommended like put
broth in there. So we went back and forth to
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this person like quite a few comments like comments and
discussion quite a while ago. So for sure it's a nervous
fearful. But well, it was when they got
it, good to change since, right?But just giving you a little
background. Sounds like a lot of, a lot of
visuals, unfortunately, but it absolutely can get worse.
I mean, especially if it's a more nervous guy, but even if it
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was a confident beastly right atme, if he's practicing growling
and and it's actually effective.I mean, there's there's a chance
that he will actually bite or get pissy.
That you didn't listen and then and then bye. but I guess the
probably bigger thing that I would say too just to help other
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people with this is That is not guarding you in a good way.
He's not protecting you from your wife.
I bet he probably likes your wife, but he probably is
guarding. You like a bone or the spot like
a bone against your wife, who he, you know, doesn't see as an
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authority figure and that's tough.
That's a, that's a tough game because of how nervous he is
specially, if you know not wanting to drink water, right?
You know, most dogs kind of Knowhow how important that is, how
important staying hydrated? It is.
But if you have a really nervousdog, you do have to go slow.
But all so you have to be firm in your expectations and things
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and get them to understand that all we can't tolerate types of
behavior like, Growling or barking, or, you know, being
possessive or protective of really anything in the house,
right? Because that can go sour pretty
quickly. Unfortunately, one of the big
things that I would say is, Probably shouldn't be in the bed
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because all so you could accidentally bump them in the
middle of the night and wake himup and he doesn't know what it
is. So he bites first and ask
questions later and that could really suck.
And that I would, I would reallystart working on. if you are
going to allow him on couches and beds and things of that
nature, do it with the leash on and do it as practice.
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Don't just wait for, you know, actual late night, your wife is
actually coming into bed, do it as practice.
She starts to come over. He growls, and you have to
correct that behavior and if he gets upset with being corrected,
you have the least to also be able to heal and calm them down
and then try it all over again. So you do have to go slow.
But that doesn't mean you stop the training.
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That doesn't mean that the I don't know, the, the corrections
and the calming are still viableoptions, whether he's nervous or
not, you just might change the pacing to kind of match him a
little better. So, some really good points that
you bring up there, I don't feellike we've really talked to ton
about letting dogs on beds, couches, that kind of thing.
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In the podcast. Have you, do you want to talk
about our thoughts on that more?Sure.
And then I just want to add one thing.
We would always suggest to a client would be in this
scenario, for the wife to do more training with the dog, my
guess I would be shocked to be unbelief if the dog listens
super well to her. You generally, they're guarding
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the space from not the person often.
It's, the one is like, I don't know why he does it.
I give him the most loved and it's always that person, right?
It's never the person who does the most training.
So I would just suggest the wifeshould do a lot more training
with the dog and what I always tell them is like if the dog's
gonna Grumble at you or give youtrouble wide.
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Rather it happened on leash at noon, then off leash at 10 p.m.
when you're climbing into bed inyour pajamas.
So, even if the dog's kind of a jerk to you, like, let's see it
at the right time versus the wrong time.
Yeah, couches and beds. You know what's funny?
He's got into a short conversation on dogpro radio
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with Larry Crone the other day about this and we didn't flush
it out much but just kind of came up and then we added some
caveats because it's easy. Like what I had said was most of
the time could care less if a dog's in the couch, are the bad
now. I don't let my own dogs in the
couch and bed, just because we don't want to clean from the
dogs and the couch and bed. But if someone has a good dog
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with no issues, I would never tell them to change that if they
like it and their dogs not causing trouble.
There's I just can't see the reason to change it.
The times I would change it would be when you have control
issues with your dog, especiallyin the house.
Like if your dog's good in the house but just won't come on.
Cold off leash. I don't find that to be super
relevant here. But if your dog's guarding the
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couch, for sure if your dog is any resource card in that would,
you know, like Nelson said earlier, it's probably going to
Branch out to the bed or there'sa good chance of it, so why not?
Not just in the bud and solve your problems.
If you feel like, give a dog who's challenging you and
budding heads. Then with you, then that's one,
I wouldn't let in the bed, so there's definitely times.
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And then if it's a dog who's just constantly That I won't say
pushing your buttons but where it's like you feel like you're
always having to stop them from doing stuff and they'll run from
you and they won't listen and you just have like all these
things you want to fix. It's one more thing you can do
to kind of change that relationship, just establish
more control so that would be a good time as well, that you
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might not want to let them on the couch in bed.
But with the vast majority of myclients, I could care less and I
say absolutely nothing about couch and bed and it never even
comes out I think a lot of people struggle with it because
they let the dog up there early on and then make a decision
later that they want to change it and they struggle to make the
change. So, you know, a big thing to
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think about. If you're getting a new dog is
what those rules are going to bearound.
The house is the dog going to beallowed on the furniture, is it
not going to be allowed on the furniture?
If you can make those rules thatstart it's going to make your
life so much easier going forward.
The other thing kind of along the same line and sometimes I
get pushed back for this, but listen, just because you're
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older dog. Or your first dog is allowed on
the bed, doesn't mean that your second dog is allowed in the
bed. You know, if they act completely
different and you like having a dog in the bed, Then have the
first one in the bed and maybe the second dog can train and get
up to that. But at the moment it can't and
you know, really kind of no big deal and until you get it fixed.
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But there is always different. Dogs have different rules
because they respond or behave differently.
You know, my older dogs can do things that my younger dogs.
Absolutely can't. I just I trust them more.
They've been with me longer and they trained more.
So, You know, there's there's itjust because you're younger
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vishala, the newer vishala rather it's an all out in the
bed doesn't mean that the first one.
Would it be able to or wouldn't be allowed to rather?
What if it was? A wine instead of a visual.
Would that change your answer? I would.
Probably allow the wine more than the Visa but they're very
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similar. I guess the big difference a
size, right? Why have like 20 pounds on him?
I feel like there's a lot of differences.
Colorful neurotic maybe neuroticin different ways.
But they're yeah, different waysbecause things was, I always see
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as like goofy eager to, please neurotic versus a line that's
like ready to bite another dog or person and a lot of
scenarios. I don't know, man.
I've met a lot of dishes that are ready to bite and for other
dogs, or or people. And again, one of the things
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that I would point out for sure is I did, I have trained way
more visualized than I have limes, to be fair.
So, you know, like, take what I say with a grain of salt.
But all the wimes, even the onesthat initially wanted to kill
me. They're goofballs, right?
I mean like they're funny to watch because they as smart as
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they are, they don't present that way.
They do a lot of dumb stuff. So you're a one fan.
Okay, that's your next dog. Yeah, Taylor does not like
hunting dogs. All right.
Did we do it? We ready to move on?
Yeah, okay I'm gonna pick a way shorter one because that one was
tough. Why does my dog have to greet or
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be greeted by strangers dogs? So that's it. quick answer, they
don't Really, I figured you would say that they should still
be greeted by strangers stops. He's just gonna go with.
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No, I would. I, I can tell you that the
amount of strangers dogs. And what I mean, That could go
either way either. I don't know the dog or I don't
know the person and then I don'tknow that person's dog.
But The amount of strangers dogsthat my dogs meet are.
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Very, very minimal, maybe two, maybe three.
I mean, like, wait and what? Time frame two or three in their
life. For strange dogs that?
I don't know, for sure. Yeah, you know, we have so many
clients and I have a lot. Like my family has a lot of dogs
and friends, have a lot of dogs.I know, every dog that that
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meets my dog's. And so if you're not a trainer,
you know, again, friends dogs and family dogs.
There's a lot to socialize with that.
You don't have to stop in the middle of the street of your
walk and have your dog, say hi to every dog.
Because to be honest with you, Ijust don't trust every person
and every person is not, so I agree with you for sure here.
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I just think if we asked Taylor that the, the number is not too
or three in a lifetime, that sounds that sounds hard to even
accomplish. She doesn't even do the walks so
so I mean I agree with you. I don't really understand this
question and I think it's where like You have videos on
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socializing or whatever and people are like well, you know,
or like what like all these different things and they feel
like it's an order like me to 100 people by the time that
they're what three months old or100 dogs.
Yeah. That kind of stuff.
And I think that stuff is important to do and but you said
like, you know, you mentioned, you have access to lots of good
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dogs that you trust. So my dog's don't meet a ton of
new dogs either and like even, you know, I had one of them
downtown Nashville, the other day at a busy Park, doing some
training and then hanging out for a while afterwards and he
didn't say hi to any other dogs,just because I have no idea.
If those dogs are nice and I don't want to break up a dog
fight. What's the point?
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And like you said, he sees I bring client dogs over all the
time from my dogs play with them.
My friends have dogs, they see alot of dogs.
I took the question, just to mean something like Here's a lot
of entitled to people that let their dog walk up to yours,
right? Sure.
And I would tell a client or a person.
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You don't have to stand for that.
I won't let a strange dog. Pull to get to my dog.
So, I, I would say you you don'tlike your exact your initial
answer Nelson. You don't, you don't have to let
strange dogs say hi to your dog.So I agree with the way I agree
with that part of your comment, but if you go back to the advice
of getting a dog socialized and how many dogs they should meet,
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how is a client with a dog that they're socializing gonna
accomplish the numbers that theyneed without meeting strange
dogs. So I can take this.
Okay, no. You gonna say something Bonkers
and I can't wait to hear it. I probably am.
You know the big thing with socializing is teaching your
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dog, what is normal or what you want to be normal.
And so when it comes to socializing, my dog needs to see
a ton of dogs and behave around all of those dogs. but the
amount of dogs that they actually have to sniff and play
with, Isn't. Isn't as high of a number,
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right? And so if anything, if we wanted
to play mathematics here, like the less dogs, you actually let
your dog play with the higher chance.
You have of a well-socialized dog because they don't have bad.
You know, bad experiences now that's there.
It is. That was Bonkers.
Let's unpack that the less dogs.They see the more like to be
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social. No, no.
See, I see what game you're trying to play here.
Now, the less dog, that they seethe Les dogs that they play with
that. They physically interact with
Yes. If you're very, very strict on.
Hey, I know every dog that actually gets to play with my
dog and your dog, only has good experience.
You're gonna have a well-socialized dog but if you
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like your dog, go up to any random.
Joe on the street, you're gonna have a higher chance of another
dog snapping at it and then you're going to have to
counteract those negative experiences.
Racking up more numbers of how many dogs.
You're, you're dog had to actually play with Nelson.
You said you want to play mathematic, so let's play
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mathematic. How many dogs is your dog?
Actually getting to interact with for proper socialization?
What's the number my personal dogs or just like A dog for a
dog to be properly. Socialized, what's the number of
dogs? They have to interact with they
have to play with. Have to, I guess is still a
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strong word but okay, so ten, ten ten ducks. okay, so let me
Let me respond to what you said to the bunkers part or the first
part. I get your point.
I think your point is the more dogs, they say hi to the higher,
the likelihood of having a dog bite them and then now a problem
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you have to fix, right? So I I agree with that and the
way you said like go up to any random Joe on the street and
like, say hi to their dog. You know, I don't do that with
my own dogs and I advise clientsnot to do that.
So we're in agreement there, butI do have mine say hi to dogs
and their puppies on a walk. No.
Not every dog right? They're not learning to drag me
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to a dog, right? Sure the majority of dogs were
healing past not just from a training standpoint but also
maybe I'm not in a hurry or I don't trust the person or the
dog. I discriminate based upon breed
like crazy 100% and people mighthate on me for that.
But I do if that dog has a purple tongue, we are not saying
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hi. He just we're just not be nice
to the Chows. I like how you got up close
enough to inspect the time. Like hold on let me see the time
first. They're all right hi, I'm like
not to cry his mouth. And if they say, I can't open my
dog's mouth, that's a good red flag.
Get out of there. That's actually not a bad play.
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I like, yeah. Like first, give your dog, this
bone and then take it away. If he passes that test they can
say hi. Uh, but no, I discriminate based
upon breed for sure, but then breed coupled with the dog's
body language. All right, so if it's a German
shepherd and more on guard than a golden, of course, generally
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speaking, if it's a German shepherd with like super soft
body language that looks excitedand it like is not like stress
whining and like laser eye targeting my dog.
Then maybe we'll stop and say hi.
But, you know, a family with kids that are walking with a
golden. Yeah, we're probably gonna stop
and say hi to that dog, with a puppy, and still take a little
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time with it, but the odds of that golden that's walking with
their family. When they tell you, it's
friendly the odds of it attacking your puppy.
Pretty darn low. when I say pretty darn low, like we're
talking close to zero, I don't know if close to zero makes any
sense anymore. Pretty darn low in the grand
scheme of things. I'll give you, but Man, Golden's
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are getting more aggressive lately.
I've seen, I mean, I could get behind this, the idea that
there's aggressive ones out there, What?
When I see a family walking, a dog with young kids and they
have the dog in public and it's known to be a generally easy
breed, Golden Lab, whatever. And you say is it friendly with
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dogs most of those dogs are going to like Doggy Daycare
right? God all the time.
So I think you're right on that for sure.
Alright, just simply the fact that they can walk it with their
family is probably a good indication that you know that's
a that's a good dog. Mm-hmm and to me part of his go
to the right places as well. There's some areas where you're
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walking and it might not be the right spot.
So covet, let's play mathematicswith you too.
What's your number if 10 were you at?
if I was a client, sure. Because I like I just the reason
I asked that question. I like my dog's to be really
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really so social just because ofhow many dogs?
I bring around the house with the client if I had to give them
a number. I would probably say I want them
to meet 20 dogs. And like, interact and play with
20 or just meet. Well, interact smell like,
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actually be around, but I would,of course.
Give them the worries. I'm in a 100% agreement with
Nelson and I would tell them like one dog that bites your
dog. Even if it doesn't hurt your dog
could like, could mess them up for Life depending on your dog's
personality. If your dog is a strong
personality, they might strugglethat off.
If they've a weak personality, they might be terrified for life
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or that they might be fear, aggressive, when they meet new
dogs. So I stress to them, if you're
dog's eight or nine weeks old, you know, if it's like, oh 50,
50, the dog is good with those are horrible odds.
Like you need to almost certainly this dog's gonna be
good. So you just touched on a little
bit of what I thought, both of your answers were going to be.
I thought you're gonna pull out the hole, I can't answer that
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question without knowing the dogdepends on each dog.
Each dog should interact with a different number of dogs based
off of their personality. I thought we were here some some
canned response like that. And for the record, I said, 20.
And I don't think many clients when people are either going to
do 100 or much less than what you say.
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If you say 20, they're either going to meet 100 or they're
gonna cut it in half and do like10 because if a client said they
met ten dogs over the last three, you know, three weeks the
dog's now 16 weeks old. Like all of them, I'd feel
pretty good about that, but a lot of people if you give them a
number, they're going to cut it in half but they can knock that
out in one Puppy Playtime. You go to one, Puppy Playtime.
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You're getting 10 dogs like that.
You go to one Puppy Playtime andthere's ten dogs.
You have to scare dog like like that.
Oh, Nelson's hate. And on the Puppy Playtime.
Again, you know, when you The real.
Facts are. That you, if your dog can behave
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around any dog, doesn't matter what that dog is doing barking
or anything like that? And it's calm, you know, would
say hi and be happy if you let it but is perfectly fine.
Just walking past and your dog only meets 10 dogs, its whole
life and actually gets to play and have fun and all ten of
those dogs because that's a low number.
Our Fun and happy dogs. You're gonna have a great time.
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But if you the more dogs, you actually let your dog interact
with the higher chance of a bad situation happening that you
have to fix that. Could, I could also suck because
that could be an expensive fix if you're not good at
socializing in the first place. now I'm a trainer so yeah, my
dogs interact with I don't know man.
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I'm like 200 dogs a year. It's like my dogs are
interacting with a ton of dogs and I take that risk it comes
with the life. But you know again if it were if
I wasn't a dog trainer, I would be shooting for a perfect heel
and maybe 10 friends and call itgood.
So let me get this straight. You are not recommending Puppy
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Playtime. Do you know what I recommend?
And I'm glad it's on camera. What I recommend is find friends
that you actually like buy some steak or some burgers, go Grill
at your house and have them bring their dogs and that will
be your Puppy Playtime and set of going to like PetSmart for
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example. And I'm just using that as an
example. I'm not calling them out
specifically or like a daycare or like a dog park especially
right. But I'm just going to throw this
out there. This is also coming from the guy
who when we were talking about socialization was like eight
week old puppies when they meet you don't need leashes.
You don't need to walk around each other or do anything.
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Just let them play their eight week old puppies.
Yeah. I guess I don't get like, how
does it balance those two things?
For me, if you're saying that puppies aren't gonna get into
trouble, right? Then why can't people go to
puppy play times? So Eight weeks is a very
specific time, but if you brought a 12 week old dog, or a
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16 week old dog, I would still call it a puppy and I would, I
would imagine people would stilltake it to a puppy play date.
And if you have a 8 week old, dog, and there's a 16 week old
dog that really likes its toys, you know, like you could run
into problems but when it comes to again, even puppies meeting
puppies, generally, I would knowthat person and then Decide if I
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want my puppy to meet their puppy and and vice versa.
Right? You know again, hopefully
they're Discerning with who theyget to interact with too.
Let me throw something out thereNelson.
I agree with you. The puppy play times.
I've seen most of them are shitshow, right?
Where it's just ridiculous and you have the one puppy who gets
to keep coming. And it's like, you know, five
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months old now and it's pummeling all the eight week old
puppies and it's wild. And not it's not mean, but it's
like, you know, this lab that's out of control.
Yeah. But you know, we have a lot of
trainers from other companies that listen to the show and I
would guess some of them probably run Puppy Playtime.
And what I would say to that is,I've never been involved in one
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that have been really impressed with, but I guarantee they're
out there. If I had someone, it was a
trainer I trusted, and they said, I'm getting together.
Like, you know, Ada my clients come in with young dogs on a
Saturday and I'm watching it, and I'm running that group of
eight dogs, and when one's too big, they're, you know, they
graduate out of it and they don't have the option to not
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graduate out and a trainer is supervising and getting two out
of time. And then adding a third, Or
whatever. A Puppy Playtime.
Could be a great thing. It's just In our experience as
early. So my experience is that I think
your student Nelson. That's not.
What is generally happening? The ones we've seen are just
like A stoned 17 year old. Who's supervising 10 dogs that
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came into that place and the dogs are just running amok.
Now I wasn't stoned or 17 but when I was running a puppy play
date, you know. Again the big thing that you
said that, I think would be the deciding factor of whether I
think it would be good or not. Is these are clients of mine.
These are people that I know, you know.
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But when I was working at a pet store that I had already
previously acknowledged It was just anybody, right?
If you had 10 bucks, bring your dog in.
And, you know, I had a very, very young like three month old
pit, who was a very, very stubborn dog and I remember she
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would grab dogs by the tail if they were faster than her.
And like she was a huge bully. And again, there's very
personality that If you're if you're Discerning and you say,
hey I have 10 clients and I knowtheir dogs and their awesome.
And you have them all come together.
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Yeah. Puppy play date, could be
awesome but but also I think youknow, grilling out stakes and
and burgers with your friend whoalso has a dog could be just as
awesome for sure. What I would say is most Puppy
Playtime that I've seen are a sales funnel for daycare, right?
That's why they exist, and I haven't seen their operations,
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but I know a few trainers from different states that run like
puppy, like things to help people raise a puppy when
they're busy. So like you get a puppy, you're
working all day, every day, the puppies come and stay at this
place, you know, at the kennel five days a week, but it's not a
kennel. Like a doggy day care with 100
dogs there. It's, you know, small group and
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they're working on housebreakingthem and manners and you do that
for like, two months right into the dog's older.
And I haven't walked through oneof those in my, in scene of my
own eyes but I could see a lot of value there, but that's being
run by a professional trainer. Not a stone 17 year old who
works in the back of a Doggy Daycare.
That's, you know, that's been myexperience.
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The sales funnel thing is definitely real, and I was sort
of shocked when Nelson said thatthey were charging 10 bucks for
it. Like I think a lot of places do
it for free. It's a really great promotional
thing. So for anyone listening who's
thinking about doing a puppy, Puppy Playtime.
It does work. Well if you did a good Puppy
Playtime and offered it for free.
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It's a great way to get people to be your customer for the life
of that dog. So it, it works.
I'm pretty sure ten bucks when Iwas doing it.
Crazy, like, what? 12 years ago?
Oh my gosh. In today's money.
That's right. That's 50.
Oh 90. I was gonna go 50.
So it's circling back to the meeting dogs.
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We're in agreement. That one bad incident can make a
be a huge issue. And that's where I stressed a
clients you have to learn to read, dog, body language, and I
think that's a necessary skill for life to be honest.
Because man, there's so many loose dogs and is it attacking?
Is it just running up to you or whatever?
You have to make a snap decision, so much and life.
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How many dogs there are and how many irresponsible dog owners
there are and loose dogs and allof that.
So it's a skill, that's needed, quick plug.
We are working on a phenomenal, dog body language video.
It is comprehensive and it is going to just blow your socks
off. So everyone stay tuned for that.
But I think everyone should should understand dog body
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language and it would make a bigdifference because We say no to
most dogs when I have a puppy. We say no to most dogs that we
walk by. So, you know, I said, like I'm
looking for the gold in her lab with the family.
Well, that means most dogs, you pass, you know, like oh, you
know, sorry I'm in a hurry and you just keep right on moving
Yep, that's fine. So be anyone who's listening,
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that's the thing about socialized in their own dog, be
very picky and take your time. But if you're out each day
trying to meet, I said, 20 Nelson said 10 trying to meet 20
or 10 or 20 dogs in two or threemonths is not a very big number
so that means you pass the vast majority of dogs without saying
hi. And you pick and choose
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carefully. Yep.
And of course if you have friends with a puppy on, that's
better. Definitely.
Well, y'all crushed that question?
So, let's jump into new topic. How do I get my 10 week?
Old golden puppy to stop jumpingon and being hyper with my
senior nine-year-old golden dog.Puppy keeps jumping up on the
(35:46):
senior dog shoulder and doesn't seem to take the hint when she
gets growled at. Clarification, did that.
Did you say older golden dog? That's what it says 9.
The other one said Golden Retriever puppy.
Yeah, 10 week old golden, no 10 week, old golden, puppy nine
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year old golden dog. That's what.
So that's interesting. Golden puppy to me.
Sounds. Right.
I can see saying oh, it was a golden puppy, but I would never
say a golden adult. That.
What do you think? What do you guys think about
that? I agree.
I don't think I've ever heard that phrase ever come up.
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You know the golden dog or a golden.
Yeah. Yeah.
But but also think of like GSD versus German Shepherd dog.
Like I also never hear anyone actually say German Shepherd,
dog. Even though it's an accepted,
you know, GSD and accepted way to write that if someone says
GSD You know, they know stuff. You know, that's there that's a
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little clue like I'm in. Then you can do like the secret
handshake with them. The dog trainer Shake.
All right, well Nelson, why don't you answer the question?
No. Okay, so One.
I think the problem is that you're you're waiting.
Well, you Obviously aren't because you're asking the
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question, but I don't want to wait for the older golden to
actually, you know, make good onits promise.
So it's warning, right of its growling and whatnot.
So especially anytime that the older Golden Girls you have to
be able to get your puppy off. I would probably go for a tug on
the collar to see if that works.If it's too excited and it's on
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the caller, doesn't actually getthe puppy to like stop trying to
jump and play with the older one.
I would put it on a leash and start pacing around until they
can walk. With the older dog around and
then try playtime again from there but it's a super important
skill. You have to be able to find a
correction that the puppy actually cares about which If
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you have a soft dog and you justkind of do a really loud.
Hey, and that stops the dog and it's like well I don't know what
happened there. Fantastic goldens are pretty
rambunctious when they get excited though.
So likely it's gonna be some kind of tug and then call me it
down if that doesn't work, right, if the correction isn't,
I don't know. Significant enough to break
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through how excited that puppy is to play with another dog.
Work with it, comment down, put it on a leash pace around a
little bit until it can walk with you.
Well, Is your answer matter at all?
If you think the puppy is actually being appropriate like
their play, does that change anything?
Well it does but it's hard to imagine that it is if the other
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dog is giving warning signs. But let's let's say, for
example, the older dog is actually just a grouch, right?
And like the puppies, actually just behaving like a like a
what? We would think a normal puppy
would would behave. Like I will probably stop that
puppy from jumping up on the older dog, still.
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But I absolutely would add in a correction for the older dog.
The older dog needs to learn howto be able to You know, walk
away or part itself from normal dogs, and instead of just
holding his ground and being a grouch because there's a puppy
around which we've seen, I've seen, you know, a million times.
So older dogs can certainly be overly sensitive, there's no
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doubt about that. Mr. Covey thoughts.
Well, I'm a huge believer that basically no average dog owner,
should let the dogs figure it out themselves.
So you need to step in regardless of what you do.
Now says that a lot of good things there, but I'd make it
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really, really clear from the start.
This is your job, not your olderdog's job.
You need to step in and stop it.And no one ever pushes back on
that. But just to expand a little bit
on that is if you leave it to your older dog.
Well, then, you have to assume that your older dog is confident
enough to give a proper correction and that they're not
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aggressive enough or unstable enough to be way too hard in a
puppy. Those are two big ifs and if
you're not a dog expert once in,we just talked about how one
bite could really mess up a puppy mentally.
Even if it doesn't hurt him, physically, that could happen
here. If you're older, dog is like
someone unstable and all of us and they Keep on the puppy and
(40:38):
pin it down and they're like, really loud and intense your
puppy. Could be messed up for life and
now you're trying to overcome that.
So I think I'm always hesitant when I hear people say let the
dogs figure it out. I in, what's hard is there's a
lot of times, I let the dogs figure it out when I know the
dogs. But that's a such a different
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story. So like my Sunny my rod, Akita
lab mix. I let her correct puppies.
But she's really, really good atit.
She growls a little bit if they're being too much and then
she'll kind of like worn them off with like with her head and
does not ever cross the line andshe's really good at and doesn't
scare the puppy. She does it like a mother
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Dogwood but there's a lot of dogs.
I wouldn't trust to do that so Ithink you have to have a lot of
dog knowledge and have the rightdog.
And my other dog is a cattle dog.
And I don't let he like he wouldn't go over the top.
He wouldn't correct a puppy. So then what would I do?
Just let this puppy. Like, Beyond them all the time
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and he's like, growling and runsto get away and let the puppy
follow him. So, you have to have the right
dog and the knowledge, so I'd step in and do something to
correct. The puppy each time whether you
clap leave, Alicia, Sean and Target.
Grab their collar, something There's a good tie back to.
You know, learning dog bonding language too, right?
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Because again, if your dog is more like the cattle, dog, that
doesn't actually want to correctthe dog.
Some people would Overlook that and just say, well, he likes it
because he's not growling or he's not snapping or he's not
doing it, you know, he's not correct in the puppy and
therefore he likes to play but the body language would also
tell you. Yes, I did not snap at this dog,
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but I do not like what's going on and so you know, you'd have a
better chance of jumping in and fixing it I'm glad you said that
Nelson because my cattle dog, I don't have any worry of him
biting the puppy but he's not happy.
He's bothering him and if you know a dog body language, it's
very obvious. He's not enjoying it but he's
not willing. He's not gonna bite the dog or
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correct it and a lot of people Ithink would just see it as like,
oh look I'll call him. He's being, here's our back and
he looks really unhappy. He's just not willing to stop
the other dog. Sure.
So we have one more question. I want to try and get to you
guys. Want to do it or do you want to
say it for next time? Yeah.
Know. Do it.
Do it, do. All right.
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My puppy's nose is always in theground sniffing and picking up
things to sniff picking up, things to stiff.
If I call him to me, he just ignores me and continues.
Sniffing how can I get him to pay attention and come to me?
Who's taking this one? Have you gotten take this one?
(43:26):
How about I'll take the intro. I think we've talked about this
on this podcast, people want to start with the come command and
it's such a problem and we even get the opposite on videos where
people like watch a dog or introducing the ecollar.
And they're like, well, that would never work with my dog.
He would have run off already and like, well, yeah, you
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shouldn't be in the ecology yet.Like you should get your dog to
listen. And this dog did not come.
Like, no like that. Dog's.
Just eager to please. Yeah, because it's like two to
three weeks into training and ithas learned a lot and like, if
and it likes to train and it's, you know, been calmed down.
So what I hear in that question and like he won't come but he's
all so smelling constantly, I would guess if you put that dog
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on leash and try to heal them and keep his nose off the
ground, I bet he'd be really hard and my framework always is
he'll sit sit stayed down down stake.
Come in order. If you can't do the one earlier
in the order you have no business moving on in that
scenario. So if you're in the yard and you
can't get a good heel, well don't stop and try to make them
late out because Is going to laydown and eat the goose poop or
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whatever it is you smell it. You know, if you take the leash
off he's not going to come when called.
So I would start at the beginning I didn't get him
healing in that scenario. Teach them there's a time and a
place to smell and it's not whenwe're on leash training and then
I would start doing some you know, sit stays probably some
down stays and like you could obviously do come without that
but I think doing that first forthe vast majority of clients
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helps out a lot and then I wouldmove to come.
So my answer is heal. I would practice that that was
gonna be my answer as well, but one of the things is if he'll in
the grass is too difficult and heal inside, you know, he'll on
the sidewalk you know get them out of the grass first kind of
get good at what the command actually is and then take them
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back to the grass and you can dothat with every single command
if you had to That's a good add-on for sure Nelson because
it's so hard when we're talking about this.
Like with there's so many Cavaliers, right?
Yes. As soon as you said that the
nice start picture and like an eight week old dog and you're
trying to like walk him through the yard he smelling and you're
like tugging constantly like that's obviously not going to
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work, you know, out of the Grasseither inside or on the driveway
and we're training there and then you're working on the
backyard and on the patio and then you're going in the grass.
So 100%. It depends on where you're at
and training. Man that was a fastest one.
Yeah that was the easiest easiest answer we've ever had.
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Well, that's all the questions. You guys did great.
Those are great answers. I think you really helped some
people out that had questions onour YouTube.
If, if in the future, you want to get your question featured in
our podcast. You can, you know, drop us a
line here on Spotify on YouTube pretty much anywhere.
Apple podcasts. IHeartRadio.
(46:19):
Nelson. Why don't you plug an energy
drink today? I feel uncomfortable about this.
So my energy drink is coffee today.
Actually, it was weird. That's old.
That's old school kind of way. Yeah, you're like a Pioneer like
traveling around then. It covered wagon.
(46:39):
Just drinking your, your coffee,just drinking coffee.
How much sugar I need to expressthis.
How much sugar? I don't know.
I I did use a creamer but that'sall I put in there like a
flavored creamer. Yeah.
Yeah. Hazel Rock the way to go.
Hmm. I don't know about that.
That is, these are those, is that a creamer that doesn't need
(47:01):
refrigerated? Know it needs to be in the
fridge. I I put in the fridge at least.
I don't know, I guess I've neverread the label, it needs to be
in there. A dream and hazelnuts.
That's it. That's probably the only
ingredients, right? I bet the ingredient list on
that bottle is like this long multiplexing or gum guar gum
(47:28):
like all kinds of things. Don't even know what this is.
All right. Well, everyone, listening, if
you have like, lost, if you havequestions, you know, of course,
submit them. We'd love to answer them or if
you have any feedback on the episodes, we'd love to hear that
we get a lot of good feedback onthese Q&A episodes.
But if there's anyone who's sickof them, tell us that as well,
they're fun to do and we've heard their entertaining for
(47:51):
people, but always will take warm and cool feedback anytime.
Like that. I did I did like that, they use
them like kids school. So now I'm using it.
Fantastic. Yeah.
Now we just need a buddy bench to sit on.
If if someone doesn't have someone to talk to, they're like
a loveseat. So then like you just you go sit
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down and someone has to fill in the the empty space.
Yeah, it's a buddyman. You don't know about these never
heard of that ever. Oh my gosh, if you sit in the
Buddy, bench, everyone knows it's a buddy.
Bench to someone sitting there once a buddy.
So you see them? And then you're like, oh, they
want someone to play with and you go to the Buddy bench and
you Loop them into your game. But to Nelson's point is their
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only enough room for two people.Like a lovely love seats.
For two people, is their only enough room for two people on
the Buddy benches traditional park bench size so bunch of kids
could sit there. Yeah, you could have like four
buddies is that heartbreaking. If nobody comes to like, It
might be scared. I'd be scared to sit on the
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Buddy, bench. Everybody's like, no, I'm good.
Yeah, I asked him. Kids use that.
Well, there you go. I don't think I'd ever take the
rest as a kid like I would have been like I don't want to be the
one that doesn't get a buddy from setting on the Buddy bench.
A different world. Like we talked about before this
episode started in years past when my hair was longer.
(49:15):
Like it is now I was seen as just like you know like a hippie
or like a weirdo or something. And now I get compliments from
teenagers where they're like that is like I think it's
because I have a moment they're like that is awesome and And
things come around buddy, benches used to be weird.
Now they're great mullets used to be lame and now mullets are
(49:36):
amazing. Now they're in again.
Yep, I didn't go back to high school, I'd be way more popular.
For sure. I agree.
All right. Thanks for watching everybody.
See ya.
Welcome to balanced training with Suburban canine Nelson
(00:04):
everybody. Mr. Floss Everybody.
I was still doing introductions and Nelson just cuts me just cut
you off. Right?
Right direction. I was like only I could
introduce myself. That's a pretty bold move but
you do have rules like you don'tlike people to look you in the
eye, right? Yeah.
Like you like the Queen of England basically.
(00:27):
That's right. Yep.
Stand up and look down. Don't look me in the eye.
Don't watch me eat, that's creepy.
Yeah. Don't watch me.
Eat my pepperoni pizza. That's right.
So today we are doing question and answer, right?
We are, Oh, I thought I thought we were talking about household
(00:47):
guard dogs, and You, I mean, theagenda originally said something
about household guard, dog, so Ijust figured that's what we were
doing it for sure. Hey, for everyone listening, if
that episode comes out, you'll be surprised because we, we have
it written down and no one knowswhat it even means.
(01:09):
So we have an episode to film, that's it's gonna be a tough
thing to film. So to be fair, I gave up with my
definition, was we just haven't agreed on what it is.
Yeah. So, we're not doing that.
We're not just gonna wing it andgo for it.
No, we're gonna do. We're gonna wing a question and
answer. Well, we didn't Wing because I
know you prepared. I was gonna say, can we just
(01:31):
like whoa, let's hit pause. Bloss is the one telling us to
Wing something. This is fantastic.
Hey, just go for it. Right.
You know, he's got a list of questions and we're going to
dive into it. Let's do it.
Let's give the people what they want.
More Q&A. Let's do it Q&A.
So, I didn't come up with a theme, this time.
(01:51):
These are just some of, the, thenewest questions that have come
up, I actually took them from her YouTube, so I'm gonna throw
him out there. You guys can answer them and
we'll just get into it. So this was on your most recent
video that was on resource guarding.
And this person says, is it too late to stop a six-year-old, dog
(02:12):
from resource guarding. He takes things, he has to, he
takes things to his secret place, and we'll come after you.
If you go near him. I like how he has a secret lair.
Yeah, is it like man, sir? It must be.
(02:32):
Dark little damp, you know, Fortress of Solitude.
I like it. So what I would I can just I
guess Start this one. When I would tell a client is
whether it's like two years old or six years old or eight years
old. I don't see much of a difference
when we're stopping resource Garden.
You know, obviously be better toprevent it and if the dog is
(02:52):
just starting it in there, like nine months old and they're just
trying out this new Behavior. That's better than two, but two
versus six, I don't see much of a difference.
And as trainers, we all see thisall the time with adult dogs.
So the short answer would be. No, it's not too late at all.
Can absolutely do that with an older dog.
(03:13):
I think the dog in that video. Well actually, I don't I don't
even met at that one time for filming but it's not young.
I mean it's multiple years old. Yeah.
Yeah. So what I would say is
absolutely not not too old at all.
The amount of work to me is justgoing to come down to the dog's
personality because there's somedogs who are nine months old
that are going to be way more work to fix than some dogs that
(03:36):
are six years old. So I wouldn't even say it's
gonna be harder because of the age because we have no idea
without knowing the dog. So definitely doable definitely
something that can be worked on and I wouldn't stress about the
age so you don't think you couldjust throw out a broad statement
that an older dog's gonna have more negative experience and
it's going to make it a little bit tougher.
I mean, I agree that a younger dog could have a more severe
(04:00):
case but there's going to be a lot of issues that have come up
over those six years. So, I mean, it should prolong it
a little bit. Probably, don't you think?
You know, I was thinking that too but that's also dependent on
on the owner's. Right.
You know, there's no question that they've had way more time
to be able to practice this typeof behavior, kind of get get
(04:22):
good at it, get into their own, but how many of our clients just
Have heard the growl or saw the look and like, oh yeah, no,
he'll bite you. If you go for that and then
never try it ever again. And their whole game is Just
avoidance, you know, those dogs aren't aren't having.
Negative or positive experienceswith guarding because you know,
(04:42):
they they win just by default. Yeah.
I think. to serve law said, is it's hard to compare you can, of
course, say it's probably going to be harder for that, dog to
fix it when they're sick, then when that dog was two, and it
was a new Behavior, but that's kind of a meaningless statement
(05:03):
because that doesn't speak to the difficulty in the slightest.
It's gonna be harder than it would have been.
But it if your neighbor has a similar issue, your neighbor's
dog years could be 10 times easier or 10 times harder,
regardless of age. So to me, I just wouldn't put
much emphasis on that, I'd say, okay he's sick.
What's his personality like Plusyou could be helping him in the
(05:27):
long run because you're supposedto be teaching your older Dogs,
new stuff to help fight off. Alzheimer's one.
Yeah, doggy Alzheimer's. Yeah, I think the most important
answer though, is that it's not too late, right?
And I think we all agree on that.
So, six years old, you can definitely work on this issue.
You can definitely make progresswith it.
(05:48):
Yeah. And call us whoever you are will
help you call into the show. We should have them as a live
caller. There you go.
Now, we're talking, I'm having to act as the live caller and
read these questions. And if you haven't noticed, I
keep looking over at my screen because the next one is long and
I feel like I'm gonna screw it up.
But are you guys ready for it? Yep.
All right, here we go. So I have a very skittish with
(06:13):
tease. Would you say skittish or
skittish with Ds? You think it's skittish is good.
Okay, I have a very skittish Vizsla who is coming along, but
is still very nervous about new things.
It took us six months to ride ina truck.
So we take it slow, he started to growl at my wife in the
(06:34):
evening. When it's bedtime, like, he
doesn't want my wife to come to bed, both dogs sleep in bed with
us. But once she's in bed, he wants
to snuggle with her. So what up with the growling?
Could this get worse and he bites?
My wife, is he trying to protectme just like to know how to end
it. Can absolutely get worse.
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Like, I'd say one thing, Nelson.And then you take the answer
still, though, go for it. Just to give you detail.
I remember this person had reached out, like, six months
ago when they got that Vizsla onYouTube in a lot of fear, like,
it wouldn't drink water at all. So we had recommended like put
broth in there. So we went back and forth to
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this person like quite a few comments like comments and
discussion quite a while ago. So for sure it's a nervous
fearful. But well, it was when they got
it, good to change since, right?But just giving you a little
background. Sounds like a lot of, a lot of
visuals, unfortunately, but it absolutely can get worse.
I mean, especially if it's a more nervous guy, but even if it
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was a confident beastly right atme, if he's practicing growling
and and it's actually effective.I mean, there's there's a chance
that he will actually bite or get pissy.
That you didn't listen and then and then bye. but I guess the
probably bigger thing that I would say too just to help other
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people with this is That is not guarding you in a good way.
He's not protecting you from your wife.
I bet he probably likes your wife, but he probably is
guarding. You like a bone or the spot like
a bone against your wife, who he, you know, doesn't see as an
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authority figure and that's tough.
That's a, that's a tough game because of how nervous he is
specially, if you know not wanting to drink water, right?
You know, most dogs kind of Knowhow how important that is, how
important staying hydrated? It is.
But if you have a really nervousdog, you do have to go slow.
But all so you have to be firm in your expectations and things
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and get them to understand that all we can't tolerate types of
behavior like, Growling or barking, or, you know, being
possessive or protective of really anything in the house,
right? Because that can go sour pretty
quickly. Unfortunately, one of the big
things that I would say is, Probably shouldn't be in the bed
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because all so you could accidentally bump them in the
middle of the night and wake himup and he doesn't know what it
is. So he bites first and ask
questions later and that could really suck.
And that I would, I would reallystart working on. if you are
going to allow him on couches and beds and things of that
nature, do it with the leash on and do it as practice.
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Don't just wait for, you know, actual late night, your wife is
actually coming into bed, do it as practice.
She starts to come over. He growls, and you have to
correct that behavior and if he gets upset with being corrected,
you have the least to also be able to heal and calm them down
and then try it all over again. So you do have to go slow.
But that doesn't mean you stop the training.
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That doesn't mean that the I don't know, the, the corrections
and the calming are still viableoptions, whether he's nervous or
not, you just might change the pacing to kind of match him a
little better. So, some really good points that
you bring up there, I don't feellike we've really talked to ton
about letting dogs on beds, couches, that kind of thing.
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In the podcast. Have you, do you want to talk
about our thoughts on that more?Sure.
And then I just want to add one thing.
We would always suggest to a client would be in this
scenario, for the wife to do more training with the dog, my
guess I would be shocked to be unbelief if the dog listens
super well to her. You generally, they're guarding
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the space from not the person often.
It's, the one is like, I don't know why he does it.
I give him the most loved and it's always that person, right?
It's never the person who does the most training.
So I would just suggest the wifeshould do a lot more training
with the dog and what I always tell them is like if the dog's
gonna Grumble at you or give youtrouble wide.
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Rather it happened on leash at noon, then off leash at 10 p.m.
when you're climbing into bed inyour pajamas.
So, even if the dog's kind of a jerk to you, like, let's see it
at the right time versus the wrong time.
Yeah, couches and beds. You know what's funny?
He's got into a short conversation on dogpro radio
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with Larry Crone the other day about this and we didn't flush
it out much but just kind of came up and then we added some
caveats because it's easy. Like what I had said was most of
the time could care less if a dog's in the couch, are the bad
now. I don't let my own dogs in the
couch and bed, just because we don't want to clean from the
dogs and the couch and bed. But if someone has a good dog
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with no issues, I would never tell them to change that if they
like it and their dogs not causing trouble.
There's I just can't see the reason to change it.
The times I would change it would be when you have control
issues with your dog, especiallyin the house.
Like if your dog's good in the house but just won't come on.
Cold off leash. I don't find that to be super
relevant here. But if your dog's guarding the
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couch, for sure if your dog is any resource card in that would,
you know, like Nelson said earlier, it's probably going to
Branch out to the bed or there'sa good chance of it, so why not?
Not just in the bud and solve your problems.
If you feel like, give a dog who's challenging you and
budding heads. Then with you, then that's one,
I wouldn't let in the bed, so there's definitely times.
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And then if it's a dog who's just constantly That I won't say
pushing your buttons but where it's like you feel like you're
always having to stop them from doing stuff and they'll run from
you and they won't listen and you just have like all these
things you want to fix. It's one more thing you can do
to kind of change that relationship, just establish
more control so that would be a good time as well, that you
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might not want to let them on the couch in bed.
But with the vast majority of myclients, I could care less and I
say absolutely nothing about couch and bed and it never even
comes out I think a lot of people struggle with it because
they let the dog up there early on and then make a decision
later that they want to change it and they struggle to make the
change. So, you know, a big thing to
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think about. If you're getting a new dog is
what those rules are going to bearound.
The house is the dog going to beallowed on the furniture, is it
not going to be allowed on the furniture?
If you can make those rules thatstart it's going to make your
life so much easier going forward.
The other thing kind of along the same line and sometimes I
get pushed back for this, but listen, just because you're
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older dog. Or your first dog is allowed on
the bed, doesn't mean that your second dog is allowed in the
bed. You know, if they act completely
different and you like having a dog in the bed, Then have the
first one in the bed and maybe the second dog can train and get
up to that. But at the moment it can't and
you know, really kind of no big deal and until you get it fixed.
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But there is always different. Dogs have different rules
because they respond or behave differently.
You know, my older dogs can do things that my younger dogs.
Absolutely can't. I just I trust them more.
They've been with me longer and they trained more.
So, You know, there's there's itjust because you're younger
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vishala, the newer vishala rather it's an all out in the
bed doesn't mean that the first one.
Would it be able to or wouldn't be allowed to rather?
What if it was? A wine instead of a visual.
Would that change your answer? I would.
Probably allow the wine more than the Visa but they're very
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similar. I guess the big difference a
size, right? Why have like 20 pounds on him?
I feel like there's a lot of differences.
Colorful neurotic maybe neuroticin different ways.
But they're yeah, different waysbecause things was, I always see
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as like goofy eager to, please neurotic versus a line that's
like ready to bite another dog or person and a lot of
scenarios. I don't know, man.
I've met a lot of dishes that are ready to bite and for other
dogs, or or people. And again, one of the things
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that I would point out for sure is I did, I have trained way
more visualized than I have limes, to be fair.
So, you know, like, take what I say with a grain of salt.
But all the wimes, even the onesthat initially wanted to kill
me. They're goofballs, right?
I mean like they're funny to watch because they as smart as
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they are, they don't present that way.
They do a lot of dumb stuff. So you're a one fan.
Okay, that's your next dog. Yeah, Taylor does not like
hunting dogs. All right.
Did we do it? We ready to move on?
Yeah, okay I'm gonna pick a way shorter one because that one was
tough. Why does my dog have to greet or
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be greeted by strangers dogs? So that's it. quick answer, they
don't Really, I figured you would say that they should still
be greeted by strangers stops. He's just gonna go with.
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No, I would. I, I can tell you that the
amount of strangers dogs. And what I mean, That could go
either way either. I don't know the dog or I don't
know the person and then I don'tknow that person's dog.
But The amount of strangers dogsthat my dogs meet are.
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Very, very minimal, maybe two, maybe three.
I mean, like, wait and what? Time frame two or three in their
life. For strange dogs that?
I don't know, for sure. Yeah, you know, we have so many
clients and I have a lot. Like my family has a lot of dogs
and friends, have a lot of dogs.I know, every dog that that
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meets my dog's. And so if you're not a trainer,
you know, again, friends dogs and family dogs.
There's a lot to socialize with that.
You don't have to stop in the middle of the street of your
walk and have your dog, say hi to every dog.
Because to be honest with you, Ijust don't trust every person
and every person is not, so I agree with you for sure here.
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I just think if we asked Taylor that the, the number is not too
or three in a lifetime, that sounds that sounds hard to even
accomplish. She doesn't even do the walks so
so I mean I agree with you. I don't really understand this
question and I think it's where like You have videos on
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socializing or whatever and people are like well, you know,
or like what like all these different things and they feel
like it's an order like me to 100 people by the time that
they're what three months old or100 dogs.
Yeah. That kind of stuff.
And I think that stuff is important to do and but you said
like, you know, you mentioned, you have access to lots of good
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dogs that you trust. So my dog's don't meet a ton of
new dogs either and like even, you know, I had one of them
downtown Nashville, the other day at a busy Park, doing some
training and then hanging out for a while afterwards and he
didn't say hi to any other dogs,just because I have no idea.
If those dogs are nice and I don't want to break up a dog
fight. What's the point?
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And like you said, he sees I bring client dogs over all the
time from my dogs play with them.
My friends have dogs, they see alot of dogs.
I took the question, just to mean something like Here's a lot
of entitled to people that let their dog walk up to yours,
right? Sure.
And I would tell a client or a person.
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You don't have to stand for that.
I won't let a strange dog. Pull to get to my dog.
So, I, I would say you you don'tlike your exact your initial
answer Nelson. You don't, you don't have to let
strange dogs say hi to your dog.So I agree with the way I agree
with that part of your comment, but if you go back to the advice
of getting a dog socialized and how many dogs they should meet,
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how is a client with a dog that they're socializing gonna
accomplish the numbers that theyneed without meeting strange
dogs. So I can take this.
Okay, no. You gonna say something Bonkers
and I can't wait to hear it. I probably am.
You know the big thing with socializing is teaching your
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dog, what is normal or what you want to be normal.
And so when it comes to socializing, my dog needs to see
a ton of dogs and behave around all of those dogs. but the
amount of dogs that they actually have to sniff and play
with, Isn't. Isn't as high of a number,
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right? And so if anything, if we wanted
to play mathematics here, like the less dogs, you actually let
your dog play with the higher chance.
You have of a well-socialized dog because they don't have bad.
You know, bad experiences now that's there.
It is. That was Bonkers.
Let's unpack that the less dogs.They see the more like to be
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social. No, no.
See, I see what game you're trying to play here.
Now, the less dog, that they seethe Les dogs that they play with
that. They physically interact with
Yes. If you're very, very strict on.
Hey, I know every dog that actually gets to play with my
dog and your dog, only has good experience.
You're gonna have a well-socialized dog but if you
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like your dog, go up to any random.
Joe on the street, you're gonna have a higher chance of another
dog snapping at it and then you're going to have to
counteract those negative experiences.
Racking up more numbers of how many dogs.
You're, you're dog had to actually play with Nelson.
You said you want to play mathematic, so let's play
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mathematic. How many dogs is your dog?
Actually getting to interact with for proper socialization?
What's the number my personal dogs or just like A dog for a
dog to be properly. Socialized, what's the number of
dogs? They have to interact with they
have to play with. Have to, I guess is still a
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strong word but okay, so ten, ten ten ducks. okay, so let me
Let me respond to what you said to the bunkers part or the first
part. I get your point.
I think your point is the more dogs, they say hi to the higher,
the likelihood of having a dog bite them and then now a problem
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you have to fix, right? So I I agree with that and the
way you said like go up to any random Joe on the street and
like, say hi to their dog. You know, I don't do that with
my own dogs and I advise clientsnot to do that.
So we're in agreement there, butI do have mine say hi to dogs
and their puppies on a walk. No.
Not every dog right? They're not learning to drag me
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to a dog, right? Sure the majority of dogs were
healing past not just from a training standpoint but also
maybe I'm not in a hurry or I don't trust the person or the
dog. I discriminate based upon breed
like crazy 100% and people mighthate on me for that.
But I do if that dog has a purple tongue, we are not saying
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hi. He just we're just not be nice
to the Chows. I like how you got up close
enough to inspect the time. Like hold on let me see the time
first. They're all right hi, I'm like
not to cry his mouth. And if they say, I can't open my
dog's mouth, that's a good red flag.
Get out of there. That's actually not a bad play.
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I like, yeah. Like first, give your dog, this
bone and then take it away. If he passes that test they can
say hi. Uh, but no, I discriminate based
upon breed for sure, but then breed coupled with the dog's
body language. All right, so if it's a German
shepherd and more on guard than a golden, of course, generally
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speaking, if it's a German shepherd with like super soft
body language that looks excitedand it like is not like stress
whining and like laser eye targeting my dog.
Then maybe we'll stop and say hi.
But, you know, a family with kids that are walking with a
golden. Yeah, we're probably gonna stop
and say hi to that dog, with a puppy, and still take a little
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time with it, but the odds of that golden that's walking with
their family. When they tell you, it's
friendly the odds of it attacking your puppy.
Pretty darn low. when I say pretty darn low, like we're
talking close to zero, I don't know if close to zero makes any
sense anymore. Pretty darn low in the grand
scheme of things. I'll give you, but Man, Golden's
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are getting more aggressive lately.
I've seen, I mean, I could get behind this, the idea that
there's aggressive ones out there, What?
When I see a family walking, a dog with young kids and they
have the dog in public and it's known to be a generally easy
breed, Golden Lab, whatever. And you say is it friendly with
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dogs most of those dogs are going to like Doggy Daycare
right? God all the time.
So I think you're right on that for sure.
Alright, just simply the fact that they can walk it with their
family is probably a good indication that you know that's
a that's a good dog. Mm-hmm and to me part of his go
to the right places as well. There's some areas where you're
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walking and it might not be the right spot.
So covet, let's play mathematicswith you too.
What's your number if 10 were you at?
if I was a client, sure. Because I like I just the reason
I asked that question. I like my dog's to be really
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really so social just because ofhow many dogs?
I bring around the house with the client if I had to give them
a number. I would probably say I want them
to meet 20 dogs. And like, interact and play with
20 or just meet. Well, interact smell like,
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actually be around, but I would,of course.
Give them the worries. I'm in a 100% agreement with
Nelson and I would tell them like one dog that bites your
dog. Even if it doesn't hurt your dog
could like, could mess them up for Life depending on your dog's
personality. If your dog is a strong
personality, they might strugglethat off.
If they've a weak personality, they might be terrified for life
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or that they might be fear, aggressive, when they meet new
dogs. So I stress to them, if you're
dog's eight or nine weeks old, you know, if it's like, oh 50,
50, the dog is good with those are horrible odds.
Like you need to almost certainly this dog's gonna be
good. So you just touched on a little
bit of what I thought, both of your answers were going to be.
I thought you're gonna pull out the hole, I can't answer that
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question without knowing the dogdepends on each dog.
Each dog should interact with a different number of dogs based
off of their personality. I thought we were here some some
canned response like that. And for the record, I said, 20.
And I don't think many clients when people are either going to
do 100 or much less than what you say.
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If you say 20, they're either going to meet 100 or they're
gonna cut it in half and do like10 because if a client said they
met ten dogs over the last three, you know, three weeks the
dog's now 16 weeks old. Like all of them, I'd feel
pretty good about that, but a lot of people if you give them a
number, they're going to cut it in half but they can knock that
out in one Puppy Playtime. You go to one, Puppy Playtime.
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You're getting 10 dogs like that.
You go to one Puppy Playtime andthere's ten dogs.
You have to scare dog like like that.
Oh, Nelson's hate. And on the Puppy Playtime.
Again, you know, when you The real.
Facts are. That you, if your dog can behave
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around any dog, doesn't matter what that dog is doing barking
or anything like that? And it's calm, you know, would
say hi and be happy if you let it but is perfectly fine.
Just walking past and your dog only meets 10 dogs, its whole
life and actually gets to play and have fun and all ten of
those dogs because that's a low number.
Our Fun and happy dogs. You're gonna have a great time.
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But if you the more dogs, you actually let your dog interact
with the higher chance of a bad situation happening that you
have to fix that. Could, I could also suck because
that could be an expensive fix if you're not good at
socializing in the first place. now I'm a trainer so yeah, my
dogs interact with I don't know man.
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I'm like 200 dogs a year. It's like my dogs are
interacting with a ton of dogs and I take that risk it comes
with the life. But you know again if it were if
I wasn't a dog trainer, I would be shooting for a perfect heel
and maybe 10 friends and call itgood.
So let me get this straight. You are not recommending Puppy
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Playtime. Do you know what I recommend?
And I'm glad it's on camera. What I recommend is find friends
that you actually like buy some steak or some burgers, go Grill
at your house and have them bring their dogs and that will
be your Puppy Playtime and set of going to like PetSmart for
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example. And I'm just using that as an
example. I'm not calling them out
specifically or like a daycare or like a dog park especially
right. But I'm just going to throw this
out there. This is also coming from the guy
who when we were talking about socialization was like eight
week old puppies when they meet you don't need leashes.
You don't need to walk around each other or do anything.
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Just let them play their eight week old puppies.
Yeah. I guess I don't get like, how
does it balance those two things?
For me, if you're saying that puppies aren't gonna get into
trouble, right? Then why can't people go to
puppy play times? So Eight weeks is a very
specific time, but if you brought a 12 week old dog, or a
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16 week old dog, I would still call it a puppy and I would, I
would imagine people would stilltake it to a puppy play date.
And if you have a 8 week old, dog, and there's a 16 week old
dog that really likes its toys, you know, like you could run
into problems but when it comes to again, even puppies meeting
puppies, generally, I would knowthat person and then Decide if I
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want my puppy to meet their puppy and and vice versa.
Right? You know again, hopefully
they're Discerning with who theyget to interact with too.
Let me throw something out thereNelson.
I agree with you. The puppy play times.
I've seen most of them are shitshow, right?
Where it's just ridiculous and you have the one puppy who gets
to keep coming. And it's like, you know, five
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months old now and it's pummeling all the eight week old
puppies and it's wild. And not it's not mean, but it's
like, you know, this lab that's out of control.
Yeah. But you know, we have a lot of
trainers from other companies that listen to the show and I
would guess some of them probably run Puppy Playtime.
And what I would say to that is,I've never been involved in one
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that have been really impressed with, but I guarantee they're
out there. If I had someone, it was a
trainer I trusted, and they said, I'm getting together.
Like, you know, Ada my clients come in with young dogs on a
Saturday and I'm watching it, and I'm running that group of
eight dogs, and when one's too big, they're, you know, they
graduate out of it and they don't have the option to not
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graduate out and a trainer is supervising and getting two out
of time. And then adding a third, Or
whatever. A Puppy Playtime.
Could be a great thing. It's just In our experience as
early. So my experience is that I think
your student Nelson. That's not.
What is generally happening? The ones we've seen are just
like A stoned 17 year old. Who's supervising 10 dogs that
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came into that place and the dogs are just running amok.
Now I wasn't stoned or 17 but when I was running a puppy play
date, you know. Again the big thing that you
said that, I think would be the deciding factor of whether I
think it would be good or not. Is these are clients of mine.
These are people that I know, you know.
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But when I was working at a pet store that I had already
previously acknowledged It was just anybody, right?
If you had 10 bucks, bring your dog in.
And, you know, I had a very, very young like three month old
pit, who was a very, very stubborn dog and I remember she
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would grab dogs by the tail if they were faster than her.
And like she was a huge bully. And again, there's very
personality that If you're if you're Discerning and you say,
hey I have 10 clients and I knowtheir dogs and their awesome.
And you have them all come together.
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Yeah. Puppy play date, could be
awesome but but also I think youknow, grilling out stakes and
and burgers with your friend whoalso has a dog could be just as
awesome for sure. What I would say is most Puppy
Playtime that I've seen are a sales funnel for daycare, right?
That's why they exist, and I haven't seen their operations,
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but I know a few trainers from different states that run like
puppy, like things to help people raise a puppy when
they're busy. So like you get a puppy, you're
working all day, every day, the puppies come and stay at this
place, you know, at the kennel five days a week, but it's not a
kennel. Like a doggy day care with 100
dogs there. It's, you know, small group and
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they're working on housebreakingthem and manners and you do that
for like, two months right into the dog's older.
And I haven't walked through oneof those in my, in scene of my
own eyes but I could see a lot of value there, but that's being
run by a professional trainer. Not a stone 17 year old who
works in the back of a Doggy Daycare.
That's, you know, that's been myexperience.
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The sales funnel thing is definitely real, and I was sort
of shocked when Nelson said thatthey were charging 10 bucks for
it. Like I think a lot of places do
it for free. It's a really great promotional
thing. So for anyone listening who's
thinking about doing a puppy, Puppy Playtime.
It does work. Well if you did a good Puppy
Playtime and offered it for free.
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It's a great way to get people to be your customer for the life
of that dog. So it, it works.
I'm pretty sure ten bucks when Iwas doing it.
Crazy, like, what? 12 years ago?
Oh my gosh. In today's money.
That's right. That's 50.
Oh 90. I was gonna go 50.
So it's circling back to the meeting dogs.
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We're in agreement. That one bad incident can make a
be a huge issue. And that's where I stressed a
clients you have to learn to read, dog, body language, and I
think that's a necessary skill for life to be honest.
Because man, there's so many loose dogs and is it attacking?
Is it just running up to you or whatever?
You have to make a snap decision, so much and life.
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How many dogs there are and how many irresponsible dog owners
there are and loose dogs and allof that.
So it's a skill, that's needed, quick plug.
We are working on a phenomenal, dog body language video.
It is comprehensive and it is going to just blow your socks
off. So everyone stay tuned for that.
But I think everyone should should understand dog body
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language and it would make a bigdifference because We say no to
most dogs when I have a puppy. We say no to most dogs that we
walk by. So, you know, I said, like I'm
looking for the gold in her lab with the family.
Well, that means most dogs, you pass, you know, like oh, you
know, sorry I'm in a hurry and you just keep right on moving
Yep, that's fine. So be anyone who's listening,
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that's the thing about socialized in their own dog, be
very picky and take your time. But if you're out each day
trying to meet, I said, 20 Nelson said 10 trying to meet 20
or 10 or 20 dogs in two or threemonths is not a very big number
so that means you pass the vast majority of dogs without saying
hi. And you pick and choose
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carefully. Yep.
And of course if you have friends with a puppy on, that's
better. Definitely.
Well, y'all crushed that question?
So, let's jump into new topic. How do I get my 10 week?
Old golden puppy to stop jumpingon and being hyper with my
senior nine-year-old golden dog.Puppy keeps jumping up on the
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senior dog shoulder and doesn't seem to take the hint when she
gets growled at. Clarification, did that.
Did you say older golden dog? That's what it says 9.
The other one said Golden Retriever puppy.
Yeah, 10 week old golden, no 10 week, old golden, puppy nine
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year old golden dog. That's what.
So that's interesting. Golden puppy to me.
Sounds. Right.
I can see saying oh, it was a golden puppy, but I would never
say a golden adult. That.
What do you think? What do you guys think about
that? I agree.
I don't think I've ever heard that phrase ever come up.
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You know the golden dog or a golden.
Yeah. Yeah.
But but also think of like GSD versus German Shepherd dog.
Like I also never hear anyone actually say German Shepherd,
dog. Even though it's an accepted,
you know, GSD and accepted way to write that if someone says
GSD You know, they know stuff. You know, that's there that's a
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little clue like I'm in. Then you can do like the secret
handshake with them. The dog trainer Shake.
All right, well Nelson, why don't you answer the question?
No. Okay, so One.
I think the problem is that you're you're waiting.
Well, you Obviously aren't because you're asking the
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question, but I don't want to wait for the older golden to
actually, you know, make good onits promise.
So it's warning, right of its growling and whatnot.
So especially anytime that the older Golden Girls you have to
be able to get your puppy off. I would probably go for a tug on
the collar to see if that works.If it's too excited and it's on
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the caller, doesn't actually getthe puppy to like stop trying to
jump and play with the older one.
I would put it on a leash and start pacing around until they
can walk. With the older dog around and
then try playtime again from there but it's a super important
skill. You have to be able to find a
correction that the puppy actually cares about which If
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you have a soft dog and you justkind of do a really loud.
Hey, and that stops the dog and it's like well I don't know what
happened there. Fantastic goldens are pretty
rambunctious when they get excited though.
So likely it's gonna be some kind of tug and then call me it
down if that doesn't work, right, if the correction isn't,
I don't know. Significant enough to break
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through how excited that puppy is to play with another dog.
Work with it, comment down, put it on a leash pace around a
little bit until it can walk with you.
Well, Is your answer matter at all?
If you think the puppy is actually being appropriate like
their play, does that change anything?
Well it does but it's hard to imagine that it is if the other
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dog is giving warning signs. But let's let's say, for
example, the older dog is actually just a grouch, right?
And like the puppies, actually just behaving like a like a
what? We would think a normal puppy
would would behave. Like I will probably stop that
puppy from jumping up on the older dog, still.
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But I absolutely would add in a correction for the older dog.
The older dog needs to learn howto be able to You know, walk
away or part itself from normal dogs, and instead of just
holding his ground and being a grouch because there's a puppy
around which we've seen, I've seen, you know, a million times.
So older dogs can certainly be overly sensitive, there's no
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doubt about that. Mr. Covey thoughts.
Well, I'm a huge believer that basically no average dog owner,
should let the dogs figure it out themselves.
So you need to step in regardless of what you do.
Now says that a lot of good things there, but I'd make it
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really, really clear from the start.
This is your job, not your olderdog's job.
You need to step in and stop it.And no one ever pushes back on
that. But just to expand a little bit
on that is if you leave it to your older dog.
Well, then, you have to assume that your older dog is confident
enough to give a proper correction and that they're not
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aggressive enough or unstable enough to be way too hard in a
puppy. Those are two big ifs and if
you're not a dog expert once in,we just talked about how one
bite could really mess up a puppy mentally.
Even if it doesn't hurt him, physically, that could happen
here. If you're older, dog is like
someone unstable and all of us and they Keep on the puppy and
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pin it down and they're like, really loud and intense your
puppy. Could be messed up for life and
now you're trying to overcome that.
So I think I'm always hesitant when I hear people say let the
dogs figure it out. I in, what's hard is there's a
lot of times, I let the dogs figure it out when I know the
dogs. But that's a such a different
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story. So like my Sunny my rod, Akita
lab mix. I let her correct puppies.
But she's really, really good atit.
She growls a little bit if they're being too much and then
she'll kind of like worn them off with like with her head and
does not ever cross the line andshe's really good at and doesn't
scare the puppy. She does it like a mother
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Dogwood but there's a lot of dogs.
I wouldn't trust to do that so Ithink you have to have a lot of
dog knowledge and have the rightdog.
And my other dog is a cattle dog.
And I don't let he like he wouldn't go over the top.
He wouldn't correct a puppy. So then what would I do?
Just let this puppy. Like, Beyond them all the time
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and he's like, growling and runsto get away and let the puppy
follow him. So, you have to have the right
dog and the knowledge, so I'd step in and do something to
correct. The puppy each time whether you
clap leave, Alicia, Sean and Target.
Grab their collar, something There's a good tie back to.
You know, learning dog bonding language too, right?
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Because again, if your dog is more like the cattle, dog, that
doesn't actually want to correctthe dog.
Some people would Overlook that and just say, well, he likes it
because he's not growling or he's not snapping or he's not
doing it, you know, he's not correct in the puppy and
therefore he likes to play but the body language would also
tell you. Yes, I did not snap at this dog,
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but I do not like what's going on and so you know, you'd have a
better chance of jumping in and fixing it I'm glad you said that
Nelson because my cattle dog, I don't have any worry of him
biting the puppy but he's not happy.
He's bothering him and if you know a dog body language, it's
very obvious. He's not enjoying it but he's
not willing. He's not gonna bite the dog or
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correct it and a lot of people Ithink would just see it as like,
oh look I'll call him. He's being, here's our back and
he looks really unhappy. He's just not willing to stop
the other dog. Sure.
So we have one more question. I want to try and get to you
guys. Want to do it or do you want to
say it for next time? Yeah.
Know. Do it.
Do it, do. All right.
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My puppy's nose is always in theground sniffing and picking up
things to sniff picking up, things to stiff.
If I call him to me, he just ignores me and continues.
Sniffing how can I get him to pay attention and come to me?
Who's taking this one? Have you gotten take this one?
(43:26):
How about I'll take the intro. I think we've talked about this
on this podcast, people want to start with the come command and
it's such a problem and we even get the opposite on videos where
people like watch a dog or introducing the ecollar.
And they're like, well, that would never work with my dog.
He would have run off already and like, well, yeah, you
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shouldn't be in the ecology yet.Like you should get your dog to
listen. And this dog did not come.
Like, no like that. Dog's.
Just eager to please. Yeah, because it's like two to
three weeks into training and ithas learned a lot and like, if
and it likes to train and it's, you know, been calmed down.
So what I hear in that question and like he won't come but he's
all so smelling constantly, I would guess if you put that dog
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on leash and try to heal them and keep his nose off the
ground, I bet he'd be really hard and my framework always is
he'll sit sit stayed down down stake.
Come in order. If you can't do the one earlier
in the order you have no business moving on in that
scenario. So if you're in the yard and you
can't get a good heel, well don't stop and try to make them
late out because Is going to laydown and eat the goose poop or
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whatever it is you smell it. You know, if you take the leash
off he's not going to come when called.
So I would start at the beginning I didn't get him
healing in that scenario. Teach them there's a time and a
place to smell and it's not whenwe're on leash training and then
I would start doing some you know, sit stays probably some
down stays and like you could obviously do come without that
but I think doing that first forthe vast majority of clients
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helps out a lot and then I wouldmove to come.
So my answer is heal. I would practice that that was
gonna be my answer as well, but one of the things is if he'll in
the grass is too difficult and heal inside, you know, he'll on
the sidewalk you know get them out of the grass first kind of
get good at what the command actually is and then take them
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back to the grass and you can dothat with every single command
if you had to That's a good add-on for sure Nelson because
it's so hard when we're talking about this.
Like with there's so many Cavaliers, right?
Yes. As soon as you said that the
nice start picture and like an eight week old dog and you're
trying to like walk him through the yard he smelling and you're
like tugging constantly like that's obviously not going to
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work, you know, out of the Grasseither inside or on the driveway
and we're training there and then you're working on the
backyard and on the patio and then you're going in the grass.
So 100%. It depends on where you're at
and training. Man that was a fastest one.
Yeah that was the easiest easiest answer we've ever had.
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Well, that's all the questions. You guys did great.
Those are great answers. I think you really helped some
people out that had questions onour YouTube.
If, if in the future, you want to get your question featured in
our podcast. You can, you know, drop us a
line here on Spotify on YouTube pretty much anywhere.
Apple podcasts. IHeartRadio.
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Nelson. Why don't you plug an energy
drink today? I feel uncomfortable about this.
So my energy drink is coffee today.
Actually, it was weird. That's old.
That's old school kind of way. Yeah, you're like a Pioneer like
traveling around then. It covered wagon.
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Just drinking your, your coffee,just drinking coffee.
How much sugar I need to expressthis.
How much sugar? I don't know.
I I did use a creamer but that'sall I put in there like a
flavored creamer. Yeah.
Yeah. Hazel Rock the way to go.
Hmm. I don't know about that.
That is, these are those, is that a creamer that doesn't need
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refrigerated? Know it needs to be in the
fridge. I I put in the fridge at least.
I don't know, I guess I've neverread the label, it needs to be
in there. A dream and hazelnuts.
That's it. That's probably the only
ingredients, right? I bet the ingredient list on
that bottle is like this long multiplexing or gum guar gum
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like all kinds of things. Don't even know what this is.
All right. Well, everyone, listening, if
you have like, lost, if you havequestions, you know, of course,
submit them. We'd love to answer them or if
you have any feedback on the episodes, we'd love to hear that
we get a lot of good feedback onthese Q&A episodes.
But if there's anyone who's sickof them, tell us that as well,
they're fun to do and we've heard their entertaining for
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people, but always will take warm and cool feedback anytime.
Like that. I did I did like that, they use
them like kids school. So now I'm using it.
Fantastic. Yeah.
Now we just need a buddy bench to sit on.
If if someone doesn't have someone to talk to, they're like
a loveseat. So then like you just you go sit
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down and someone has to fill in the the empty space.
Yeah, it's a buddyman. You don't know about these never
heard of that ever. Oh my gosh, if you sit in the
Buddy, bench, everyone knows it's a buddy.
Bench to someone sitting there once a buddy.
So you see them? And then you're like, oh, they
want someone to play with and you go to the Buddy bench and
you Loop them into your game. But to Nelson's point is their
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only enough room for two people.Like a lovely love seats.
For two people, is their only enough room for two people on
the Buddy benches traditional park bench size so bunch of kids
could sit there. Yeah, you could have like four
buddies is that heartbreaking. If nobody comes to like, It
might be scared. I'd be scared to sit on the
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Buddy, bench. Everybody's like, no, I'm good.
Yeah, I asked him. Kids use that.
Well, there you go. I don't think I'd ever take the
rest as a kid like I would have been like I don't want to be the
one that doesn't get a buddy from setting on the Buddy bench.
A different world. Like we talked about before this
episode started in years past when my hair was longer.
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Like it is now I was seen as just like you know like a hippie
or like a weirdo or something. And now I get compliments from
teenagers where they're like that is like I think it's
because I have a moment they're like that is awesome and And
things come around buddy, benches used to be weird.
Now they're great mullets used to be lame and now mullets are
(49:36):
amazing. Now they're in again.
Yep, I didn't go back to high school, I'd be way more popular.
For sure. I agree.
All right. Thanks for watching everybody.
See ya.
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