July 21, 2025 • 65 mins
Recorded July 20th, 2025
Scottie Scheffler has done it again! The guys dive deep into Scheffler's masterful victory at Royal Portrush, where he captured his fourth major championship with the poise and precision that's quickly becoming his trademark.
Graham and Scott break down what makes Scheffler's game so devastating—his remarkable iron play, newfound putting confidence with the spider putter, and that unshakable mental approach where "golf doesn't matter." The statistics tell the story: Scheffler is 111 under par in majors since 2020, a staggering 46 shots better than anyone else. He's now joined Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Gary Player as the only golfers to win the Masters, PGA, and Open Championship before turning 30. But is this "Tiger-esque" dominance truly comparable? The hosts explore the fascinating differences between these two generational talents.
Other standout performances get their due, including Bryson DeChambeau's incredible comeback from a disastrous first round to finish strongly, Rickie Fowler tying for the tournament lead in birdies, and Rory McIlroy's solid showing in front of his home crowd. With the Ryder Cup looming at Bethpage Black, the guys dissect the current standings and debate the critical captain's picks that could determine the outcome.
The episode shifts to NFL training camp updates, including TJ Watt's record contract with the Steelers, roster movements across the league, and some questionable team decisions. The show wraps with a spirited discussion about the WNBA All-Star game controversy and the weekly "hot chick" selection.
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(00:07):
Welcome to another episode of the Ball Guys on the Bench
podcast, with your hosts GrahamCohen and Scott Wasco.
Scott (00:21):
What's up everyone and welcome back to another episode
of the Ball Guys on the Bench.
It's a championship sundayepisode.
I know, I know graham and I'vebeen slacking for the last
couple weeks to didn't get anepisode out.
But you know, life happens,summer happens.
Graham, what up?
G?
Graham (00:40):
What's up, brother?
Just loving life, enjoying theweather.
It's not too hot yet, but seena couple movies, watched a lot
of G this past week and I'mexcited.
But other than that, Scott, Igot this cold beer right here
and I'm pretty thirsty.
What do you think?
Should we grab one and crackone?
I've been waiting.
Scott (00:59):
Yeah, let's go, let's go.
So before we even jump into theOpen Championship, you know how
was your weekend.
You know what'd you do?
I mean you just said youwatched some golf, hung out in
the kiddie pool in the backyardwith the roommates.
I mean, try to get that albinoface a little color on it.
(01:22):
You know?
I mean what else?
I haven't seen some movies.
Graham (01:26):
I mean hey, I'm getting as dark as you there, playa, so
better slow your roll.
Yeah, I know anyway.
Um, what has been going on?
Uh, yeah, just pretty much.
You know, relaxing, been jobhunting, um, seeingen a couple
good movies recently, but reallyjust the big news for me and
(01:50):
you know, we'll talk about itlater but TJ Watt man finally
happened.
It's over, don't got to worryabout that shit anymore.
It's ready for preseason andlet's get it going.
So that's pretty much what'sgoing on for me over here.
What about you, brother?
Scott (02:05):
You know, same thing Off.
Yesterday my sister and nephewsin town went to the Norfolk
Tides.
You know AAA game last nightand it was great because they
were actually playing the MetsAAA team, the Syracuse Mets, and
you know the Mets.
Old starting catcher, franciscoAlvarez, was in town because he
had been slacking.
(02:26):
They sent him down for a littleassignment.
My guy hit 12 home runs in Iguess 15 games.
Actually, last night at thegame we were at, didn't hit one,
but hit one today and hit itliterally over the batter's eye
in center field, Straight away,dead center, talking about bomb
and after the game got recalledback up to the nets.
(02:47):
So fun time, you know.
Woke up morning, watched alittle golf and you know I mean
let's just jump right into it,dude.
Uh, I don't even know what tosay.
I mean you and I were talkingabout it last night.
I mean this dude is somethingelse and yeah, everybody's
(03:08):
comparing him to Tiger and youknow it's close dude.
I mean I'm not saying close toTiger, I mean he's got four
majors.
Tiger had what?
What did Tiger finish with?
15?
Yeah, but what my guy has donein this little amount of time is
Tiger-esque.
Yeah, but what my guy has donein this little amount of time is
(03:32):
tiger-esque.
You know, yes, I mean just tobefore you even go into it.
You probably didn't see thefirst hole today because it was
so early West Coast time, butdude, they come out.
On the first hole today myguy's got a four-shot lead.
He's playing with the Chinesedude, hal Tong Li or whatever
his name is, and my guy Listuffs it in to like four feet.
(03:54):
Okay, on the first hole hisapproach shot and what's
Scheffler do?
Oh, he knocks it inside theleather dude Like tap in, cleans
his ball ball, marks it, tapsit in like it was, like
everybody's, like oh, whole timelee's going out, he's gonna
(04:15):
make force and scotty's likeyeah, bro, hang on, guy.
You know I'm just gonna hitthis dick tight and let's just
keep moving on.
Graham (04:24):
I mean, don't forget about me over here.
Scott (04:28):
Greatest iron player in the game, maybe history, at the
way we're going right now.
Graham (04:35):
I mean, it's early and it's a crazy to say it's early
after you have four majorchampionships already.
But you know, listening to thecommentary on the Golf Channel
after, after it was over, justall the comparisons that they're
trying to make, and it's just,you know, they said it pretty
clearly it's just like look, yes, he's dominating in a sense,
(04:55):
like how tiger was, but it'sjust, it's a completely
different feel, it's acompletely different way that
he's coming going about it.
You know what I mean.
Scott (05:03):
I'll say this though the players right now are stronger
than what they were when tigerwas dominating oh, facts a
hundred percent that's what'scrazy that's what's crazy.
Graham (05:15):
Right, they were showing a lot of examples of what a lot
of people were so mystifiedwith.
Tiger was you know?
Yes, what he brought to thegame and all that stuff I'm not
talking about that, but just hisgame itself was a lot of.
It was just the miraculousshots that he had to come up
with.
Right, we could do a whole houron just the shots.
(05:35):
Yeah, that he hit.
But you know, as I've mentionedin previous episodes, the thing
with scotty is you don't haveto hit those shots exactly he's
been so consistent and dialed in.
He's like why would I need tohit that?
I'm in the fairway, why would Iyou know what I mean like I'm
not all the way over there.
(05:56):
I don't have this bad lie inthe bunker, I'm not six miles
right of right yeah, you knowwhat I mean.
And when, when he is, he takeshis medicine, gets out of it,
takes a par and says, all right,let's go, Just no big deal.
And just watching him play it'salmost like the nonchalance,
(06:18):
but I mean it's not.
He's just so calm and so dialedin.
And plus, I mean the biggestthing during this whole week of
the tournament from what he wassaying in interviews before,
during and after, is he made itvery clear what golf means to
him and where it stands in hislife.
It don't matter.
(06:39):
You know what I mean, and it'sjust like there's a lot of
people that hear thatno-transcript.
Scott (07:06):
It doesn't matter.
Now you know he celebrates fortwo minutes and moves on.
That's easy to say when youhave that many zeros in your
bank account.
You've won multiple majors.
Think about is he saying thatif he's grinding for his PGA
tour card for next year?
(07:24):
that if he's grinding for his PGA Tour card for next year.
Scott (07:27):
Oh, you know what I mean.
I mean I hate to play devil'sadvocate, but yes, I appreciate
Scotty, I appreciate what he'sdoing out there because you know
he made that double today on Idon't know, it was either seven
or eight where he tried to hitthat shot out of the bunker.
And what's he do?
He followed it up with what?
A birdie on nine.
Yeah, I mean, like you saidearlier, he don't miss many
(07:54):
fairways and it's insane, dude.
I mean it's fun to watch and Ifinally you know me as a golf
pro who's made my life aroundthe sport of golf in the back of
my mind I've always been likeall right, yeah, we're
witnessing something special,we're witnessing something
special.
But when he did what he did onFriday and shot 64, I finally
(08:20):
stuck it up and was like allright, this dude is the deal.
Oh and, and started looking upsome crazy stats and dude from
2022 to 2025 for Scotty versustiger 20,.
2002 to 2005.
(08:41):
Scotty's played in the 81events.
Tiger 79.
Scotty's got 20 wins, fourmajors, two players,
championships.
Tiger had 79 events, 18 wins,four majors, zero players.
Both of them are 2.8 strokesgain.
Dude, they're both incredible.
Okay, incredible, with Scotty'swin today 10 in a row with a
(09:07):
54-hole lead.
You know how many Tiger hadafter a 54-hole lead winning in
a row.
Nah, hit me with it, let's try37.
37.
Graham (09:26):
How about this?
Scott (09:27):
Go back to that last stat you were talking about and just
really explain more of theimportance of the strokes gained
, because a lot of people don'tknow what that means and I knew
you were going to ask thattonight, so I kind of researched
it Because I don't have the 100exact definition of it.
Right, right it's.
It's basically where you are inthe fairway versus where your
(09:52):
approach lands on the green,versus how many putts it takes
you to get it in.
Okay, it's not a green andregulation.
Okay, right, a green andregulation is just a stat.
Right, it's.
Did I hit the fairway?
Yes, did I hit the green?
Yes, but what scotty's doing isincredible, especially at a
(10:14):
venue like royal port rush,where there's not a shit ton of
bunkers notice, we didn't see alot of the carnage and bunkers
right, like we normally see inthe open championship.
It's all about fairways.
And what does scotty do?
He hits fairways.
And what is he?
The best iron player in thegame.
I mean, for instance, yesterday, 600 plus yard par five.
(10:35):
Granted, it was downwind, butmy guy hits his drive 380 in the
fairway.
He's got 220, and he hits eightiron and controls the distance.
Thanks for playing.
Yeah, that's part of it, dude,it's not about bombing it.
You got to control yourdistance on your second shot.
(10:57):
You know you got to get it close, especially when it's downwind
like this, and dude the guy'scontrol with his irons.
It just like I mean, if heputted as well as Tiger he'd be
like.
Graham (11:12):
Jack who.
Scott (11:14):
Dude, and Rory has gotten to be the most bitter betty
person on the planet forsuggesting Scotty to go into the
spider putter amount.
I mean because that was allRory's idea and after that
happened it was like good nightworld.
I mean, my boy, kia Ma, down atTaylor made is like.
(11:35):
I talked to him the other day.
He's making your boy one too,by the way, right now.
I'll be here this week.
Uh, dude, I'm like dude, whatin the hell?
And he goes.
You know it's the best putterout there.
I mean, look at the guy, lookat the guy.
It's changed.
And now how many people I knowhe won, won the PGA and you know
(11:56):
, won the master's last year.
How many people you think areout there on the practice
screens right now trying to puttwith the claw grip right now?
Graham (12:06):
trying to putt with the claw grip.
I dude, I don't want to sayeverything is a fad, but I mean
it's gonna happen.
Once you see someone beconsistent or I don't see be
consistent, someone go from anokay putter to oh, you made a
change, and now this works, andnow your consistency went up and
(12:28):
now you're winning tournamentslike, oh well, if it works for
him, it might work for me.
I mean, if you're gonna saythat, how about matt fitzpatrick
doing the low hand with a chip?
Scott (12:38):
hey, the cross all week?
Yeah, I was literally.
It's so funny you bring that upbecause one of my assistants at
my club.
I was talking to him about itfriday at work the last time I
was at augusta I literallywatched fitzpatrick for like
five holes.
You know, practice aroundthey're hitting shots from all
over the place and they're on.
He's hitting pitch shots andshit around the greens and I
(13:01):
literally followed him for fourholes by myself just because I
wanted to see.
You know, it's augusta, dude,you got the fastest greens, you
got these undulations, you gotto hit your spot and
fitzpatrick's just nippingeverything.
Yeah, vj was one of the firstpeople to do it back in the day,
but, dude, it's wild.
(13:22):
And you know another performanceby Fitzpatrick.
You know good tournament.
You know, I don't know, dude,all I can say is this Scottie,
he's 29 years old.
Okay, he has three legs of thecareer Grand Slam before 30.
Shot all rounds this week inthe 60s.
Gary Player, jack, nicklaus,tiger and now Scotty are the
(13:45):
only four people to exactly winthe Masters, pga and Open before
age 30.
There's eight people to winthree legs of the Grand Slam
before the age of 30.
Yep, but only four that havewon those exact events right.
But here's the kicker dude.
And here's the thing, and Iheard this this afternoon and I
was talking to you about it.
You know the US Open next yearis at Shinnecock Amazing venue,
(14:10):
historic venue, and it finishesthis US Open Sundays on June
21st.
We all know the history US Openalways finishes on Father's Day
.
But not only is it Father's Day, but guess what, it's Scotty's
30th birthday.
Graham (14:28):
Close to my sister's birthday, shout out.
Scott (14:32):
I'm just going to say I'll take Scotty for the win for
a thousand, Alex.
Graham (14:37):
Oh, as of right now.
Scott (14:39):
I just looked it up it's plus 320.
What Plus 320.
That's crazy low.
Graham (14:48):
Has his odds for a major ever been that low?
Scott (14:52):
I think it's the same for Augusta next year.
I mean it's a golf tournament,dude Plus 320.
Graham (15:01):
Yeah, and folks, shinnecock is no walk in the
park, plus 320 there.
Scott (15:07):
Yeah and folks.
Shinnecock is no walk in thepark like it's plus 320, dude
what?
Graham (15:12):
oh my god Shinnecock hey , maros, long Island right yeah
yeah, no it is.
Scott (15:21):
so listen to this Scotty.
Since 2020, he's 111 under parin the majors 46 shots better
than anyone else in that spanany sport.
Graham (15:46):
I, I get it.
I get it, but I tell you whatand and I'm not even saying it
like when we used to talk about,like, the difference between
jack and tiger, I mean it's alldifferent because a lot of that
had to do with you know theequipment, you know the clubs,
the balls, like all that stuff.
So that's not really even afair comparison.
Scott (15:58):
But I mean, in this day and age, man, in this day and
age, the players are better no,no for sure, no, no.
Graham (16:06):
What I was going to say was it's just like.
In this day and age it's aneasier comparison, but it's just
like just to imagine.
Look, I loved watching, youknow, the tiger, phil, you know
for all those years.
Or even, or the big easy, um,vj and stuff.
But, dude, just to imagine anyof the majors, because they're
(16:29):
all different, but Scottie andTiger going head-to-head, just
two studs in their own right,but the difference in their
games.
But it's just wow, justimagining what that would look
like, especially if they bothhad.
It's just wow, just imaginingwhat that would look like,
especially if they both had itthat week, just to see what
(16:50):
would happen.
You know, type of a thing.
Scott (16:53):
Like longtime caddy for Nicholson Bones said I read this
to you last night.
You know he's caddy forNicholson forever and then went
and caddy for JT for a littlewhile.
He said never in my life wouldI ever imagine to watch a player
do what I watched Tiger do andwe're watching it.
Part of Tiger Was theintimidation factor.
Graham (17:19):
Oh, I can go down a limb and say it's more than a part.
To be honest, I would saythat's 35%.
Scott (17:27):
And what Tiger did For the game of golf.
Right, the intimidation factor.
I heard this the other day.
Everybody on the live tourShould be thanking Tiger for
what he did to golf.
Yeah, oh, 100%.
Graham (17:38):
This the other day everybody on the live tour
Should be thinking tiger forwhat he Did to golf.
Yeah, oh, 100%.
I mean, bro, I got two wordsFor you.
Have you ever heard of the guyNamed Stephen Ames?
I mean.
Scott (17:49):
Talking Trash and the match play and then Gets boat
raced to At La Costa yeah 10 and8 like I mean what to speak in
a live and where players go todie?
Cam Smith, dude, I'm not goingto dog on him long, but Cam
Smith is the only player thisyear to play in all four majors
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and then miss the cut in allfour majors.
And this is a guy that won theOpen at St Andrews, won the
players the same year, 2022.
Irrelevant yeah, majors.
And this is a guy that won theopen at st andrews, won the
players the same year, 2022,irrelevant.
Graham (18:26):
Yeah, I, I don't want to keep him in a haunt.
We talked about this last nightand you know I'll bring it up.
I'm gonna asterisk this and airquote this.
When it comes to him, he was,I'm going to say, on top of the
world.
But I mean, after winning thosemajors, he was consistent, he
was in the top 10 on the PGAtour.
(18:47):
He was doing his thing.
That's great.
The whole live thing and whatwe've said in previous episodes.
It all comes down to, as theindividual, what they want in
life and, honestly, this is kindof a good correlation.
I mean, look at Scotty.
Scotty said point blank golfisn't everything.
(19:07):
He's like I play golf.
He's like I would do this forno money.
The fact that I am making moneyand I see it on my bank account
, yeah, that's nice.
But I just come out here tocompete because I love money.
Scott (19:21):
I would say I don't do it for the money too.
If I had $150 million in thebank.
Pretty easy to say that whenyou got generational wealth for
your kids, grandkids, grandkids,grandkids, to never have to
lift a finger and you're good togo.
Graham (19:40):
I understand that, but has Tiger ever said that he
hasn't had to?
I'm just saying.
Scott (19:45):
I'm just saying Like I said last night, I don't argue
about the older players thatwent to live.
Right, brendan Steele, a buddyof mine, you know, hendrick
Stinson, sergio, these types ofplayers, like I always called it
the 401k for pga tour players,right, a guy like cam smith.
(20:06):
You know john rom, thought hewas going to be the guy that was
the person that got everybodyto switch to live tour and
instead, you know he'sofficially dead to me after his
t for 34th finish today, when Ihad him in a parlay to finish
top 30 and playing the easiestgolf course, easiest conditions
at the Open Championship on theweekend that we've seen in a
(20:28):
while.
And thanks, john Rom.
You know, have fun.
You know T for 34.
You're dead to me.
Never bet on you again.
Appreciate it.
But anyhow, let's talk aboutsomebody on the live tour that
is a shining star and that doesmove the needle and literally is
the only one on the live tourthat moves the needle and that's
(20:50):
none other than Bryson yeah, Imean my boy.
Bryson shoots 78 in the firstround, plays the last three
rounds 16 under.
Graham (21:00):
Yeah, thanks for my DeChambeau bet to miss the cut.
Thanks for going out andshooting 8 under on Friday,
jackass Dude, or 7 under,whatever it was, like my bad 16
under in the last 54 holes outat the open.
I'll say that that performance Imean look, we thought he was
(21:21):
already going to be in anyway,but dude, that performance there
and Keegan saw it I mean forhim to shoot the plus eight day
one right, it was either pluseight or plus seven day one and
then for him to come back and dothat was just like okay, yeah,
you're on the team.
It's unofficially officialBryson.
Scott (21:40):
I heard an interview after Friday's round when he
made the cut he was like afterthe first round.
He was like I was just like I'mready to go home, I'm done.
And then he was like nope, myparents, everybody taught me
don't give up till it's over.
Thumbs out and grind.
Yeah, and that was the storyabout Bryson heading into this
(22:01):
week was.
You know, everybody knows heplays these same length irons.
He hits the ball to the moon.
You know he's a fast swing,speed guy.
I don't know if anybody saw thehighlights of him with the side
hill lie.
It was like the ball was on at-ball.
He's playing t-ball, remember.
His pitching wide is the samelength as his seven iron.
I believe that ain't easy andthat was the main focus going
(22:24):
into him.
He ended this week with him is.
You know?
That's why you and I both betbryson to miss the cut and we're
both like air high-fiving fromchesapeake, virginia to nevada
after the 78 we're like let's go.
I'm like Graham, did you takethe bet?
You're like hell, yeah, I did.
I'm like let's go.
And then the asshole goes outand shoots you know nothing on
(22:46):
Friday and we're just like youknow is he going to be.
But you know, dude Rory, it'snot even a doubt.
Yeah, rory's second timeplaying Royal Port Rush,
basically in his hometown, wenta lot better than the first time
(23:09):
in 19, where he missed the cut.
I mean remember in 19, rory'sopening tee shot of the event.
He hit it out of bounds.
Graham (23:17):
There was a bunch of players that almost hit it out
of bounds.
Dude day one with that windyeah and rain yeah.
Scott (23:24):
Well for Rory.
I mean Rory had a good finishand he said it in his interview.
You know he goes.
It was a good performance.
He goes Scottie's just onanother planet and he is.
But the best thing about rorydude.
How about that shot yesterdaywhen he drove it in the rough
and he actually hit a ball thatwas embedded underneath his golf
(23:46):
ball?
How insane was that.
I mean it was wild.
It's happened before and Idon't remember who it was, but
that was wild.
I mean the look on his face,the announcers, they're all like
what the?
It was sick.
And I do have to give a shoutout to my boy, smiley Kaufman.
Graham (24:12):
Yeah, what happened with that?
I saw something.
Scott (24:14):
Dude Smiley for everybody out there, if you don't listen
to to the smiley podcast, golisten to it because it's sick.
But smiley had a hot mic andsomebody forget who it was was
taking so long on the green.
He thought he was not on airand he just goes.
What the fuck like?
Very quiet, it wasn't loud, youknow, wasn't loud at all and of
(24:39):
he had to come out with theapology.
Graham (24:41):
Of course, of course.
But look, it's situations likethat that we need, because, hey,
pace of play is not thegreatest on tour right now.
So a little recognition is notthat bad.
Scott (24:58):
Dude pace of play.
How about like five hours and45 minutes for the last couple
groups on Thursday and Friday?
Graham (25:06):
I mean, does that not add to the difficulty of trying
to win a tournament and goingdown the road just sitting?
Scott (25:13):
there waiting.
Graham (25:14):
It's the worst.
Scott (25:16):
Oh for sure, the best rounds of golf I've ever played
were me and my boy BT, out atgoose Creek, tn.
Off, when it's literally dark,yeah, and nobody's in front of
us, and when you play 18 holesof golf and basically three
hours, why you ain't thinkingyou're hitting shot, hitting
shot, you're hitting shot,you're hitting shot.
Graham (25:37):
Now you add a major championship and this long and
it's this much pressure, a grind, and it's like, oh yeah, it's
bad now, I know you don't play alot of solo rounds, maybe,
maybe even a solo nine, but likeif it was just you and and I'm
not saying this like asking,like if you're trying to speed,
(25:58):
but you're just playing yourgame like how, how long are you
getting through a 9 or an 18 byyourself on a cart?
Scott (26:04):
if I'm just, you know, normally when I go out solo and
I'm playing just nine holes orwhatnot, I'm hitting a couple
shots, yeah, okay.
But you know, and mike tree,who was on our episode a couple
weeks ago when I was playingstuff, he used to always tell me
when you go out by yourself,always play the game, play two
balls, play your three woodversus your driver off every tee
(26:26):
.
And that's what I doInteresting, yeah, the funny
thing is three wood always went,but it's hilarious.
But you know, if I, if I wentout there, if I went out there
and played like from start tofinish, just playing one golf
ball, yeah, myself, nobody holdme up I could play nine holes at
my club in an hour and 15minutes.
(26:47):
Yeah, sounds about right,easily, easily dude, I've.
Graham (26:54):
I remember there was a couple guys at the club that I
worked at in New York that whenI caddy for them and I'm saying
like walking, we finished twoand a half yeah.
(27:07):
Dude you know what I mean.
Scott (27:09):
BT and I at Goose Creek, we would literally tee off in
the summer.
I couldn't even see my golfball.
I mean, it's dark First out and, like range finder, ain't even
getting the pin on the firsthole because it's dark.
But, dude, we would tee off at6 30 and we'd be done 8 45 two
of us, dude.
Graham (27:29):
I remember our club champion at the time.
He would come and just play,like do quick rounds on a card.
I just you know I didn't evenneed to four caddy, like he
would just keep hitting it inthe fairway like there was no
point.
So I would just like be on thecart with him.
We did 18 holes I on a cart, Ithink, in like an hour and 40
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hour, 45 minutes and dude and heshot one over.
Like it's amazing what happenswhen you hit the fairway Hit the
green, two putt, go on to thenext hole.
Scott (28:01):
Why?
Because you're not thinking.
Graham (28:03):
Yeah, 100% You're not thinking.
Bang, bang, boom go.
Getting back to Scottie youmentioned, I wrote it down.
You hit one of the two stats.
There's one that I don't wantto say that you missed, but I
saw it on the TV and it has tobe said.
Scottie's one that I won't saythat you missed, but I saw it on
the TV and it just kind of ithas to be said.
Scotty's one of three playersin the last 100 years.
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Folks, let's think about that.
Out of all the golfers thathave played in the last hundred
years, he's one of three playersto win four majors by three
strokes or more.
What, and I mean, should I evenask who you think the other two
were?
I mean, it's just that obvious.
Well, I know Tiger's one ofthem.
Scott (28:48):
Yeah, the third person, is it Jack?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah, it was funny today,you know, with Scotty winning
in Ireland, he said and theannouncer said it was kind of
like back in the day when Jackbeat Arnie at Oakmont in the
playoff, you know Arnie's fromPennsylvania and the whole world
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was pulling for Arnie andScotty said today he goes.
Everybody was obviously pullingfor Rory.
It was weird, he goes.
Everybody was obviously pullingfor Rory.
It was weird, he goes.
It was weird and he goes.
Yeah, I did hear some you knowUSA chants and some Texas chants
and this and that, but you knowit was weird.
And I loved at the end when theannouncers were all like trying
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to, you know, get Scotty to go.
Yeah, I'm going out and Royalport rush tonight with the
trophy, like Lowry did in 1921,obviously Lowry and Irish guy
and Scotty was just like I can'twait to be on my couch.
It was yeah.
Graham (29:55):
But didn't Scotty just refreshment?
Was it after the masters thathe went out to the bar, his
local bar?
When he got home and celebrated?
Scott (30:04):
That was spawned.
Graham (30:07):
No, no, no, not this year Spawned oh.
No, like two years ago, becausewe talked about it.
Scott (30:12):
Probably.
Yeah, he was, because Scotty'sfrom Dallas.
Yeah, he showed up somewhere.
Yeah, he's been a member ofRoyal Oaks forever, since he was
a little kid.
Once again same coach, randySmith.
I mean dude.
Graham (30:28):
You know, one thing that I heard in his interview, like
the official interview after itwas over he said something that
kind of was just like you knowfolks, it's like if you want to
be good at something, you needto put in all your effort.
And the thing that he said wasI've always wanted to be a
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professional golfer.
And in doing that he knew thaton the PGA Tour they all wear
pants.
Like you have to wear pants.
So when he was younger he wouldwear pants in the heat in Texas
and everyone used to make funof him, yep, but he's like you
know what I'm just trainingmyself for when that time comes.
And when he said that I waslike what?
Scott (31:13):
You know the crazy thing about Scotty and I and I've done
a lot of diving into him and ifyou listen to the Subpar
podcast, colt Nose is from thatarea, been a member at Royal
Oaks forever.
Colt Nose is obviously a USamateur champion played on the
tour this and that Dude.
Scotty was at Royal Oakswatching and looking up to all
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these dudes from Dallas at RoyalOaks on the range just
absorbing it all.
And Scotty won like a millionjunior golf tournaments, like
over 150 junior golf tournaments.
Went to Texas, didn't have themost amazing college resume.
You know he won tournaments andstuff and everybody's like
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where did this guy come from?
And they're like he finallygrew into it.
Everybody says the motivationand the confidence that scotty
got was when he was a captain'spick on the rider cup team that
played at whistling street andon that sunday singles match he
was paired up and his match wasagainst rom and he drummed rom
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and after that it was like gameover and that's what gave him
the belief in himself.
I mean, dude, his first 70 pgatour starts zero wins.
If next 80, 17 wins, twoMasters, four Majors, two
players and a gold medal.
Graham (32:46):
I mean, you know, as you're talking, I'm just looking
at the final leaderboard rightnow.
Obviously, the weather wasn't afactor, because— it was the
first two days.
No, no, no, I'm saying thisfinal round Like this final
round.
I mean, I'm not counting Everyindividual, but there's Less
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than 10 people out of 70 thatshot over par.
Scott (33:11):
Right, it was easier.
Conditions for Sunday, for sure.
Graham (33:17):
And the worst part is Surprising numbers, john Wrong
for sunday for sure, like it was, I mean and the worst part is
it's just like surprisingnumbers yeah, john ron, plus
four on wrong.
Well, john ron, you asked thatI wasn't even bringing him up, I
swear to god, but it's justlike but I am, because it was
easy and he was a favorite foreverybody.
Scott (33:33):
John ron, john ron, he's playing great.
Graham (33:35):
I know know, hey, I bet it too there, homie, I bet it
there too, go hang out at a bullrace in Spain, you asshat, but
I'm just looking at these scores.
You know, Lowry minus fivetoday.
What else we got?
Dude McNeely minus five today.
Scott (33:54):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, can we talk?
Graham (33:59):
about our boy.
He was the next one on the list.
I was just going slowly up.
Scott (34:05):
He should have been the fucking first Fowler with a 6'5"
with two bogeys.
Let's go.
Graham (34:11):
Let's go, brother, hey congratulations, Romance.
Scott (34:16):
I mean, let's just talk about this.
I was looking it up.
Yeah, go ahead.
I hate to bring it up because Ihate it, because he's my boy,
Dude Fowler 21 birdies this week.
Guess where that leaves him inbirdies made Tied for first.
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Yeah, you already know, because I told you yeah, tied
for first, tied for first, yeahyou already know, because I told
you yeah, yeah, tied for firsttied for first dude, you clean
up a few holes which,unfortunately, say the other
stat I mean he shot 65 with twobogeys today, 30 on the back
nine.
Scott (34:55):
I mean his pars he had 39 pars, that's t65, bogeys, 11
t41 and then doubles.
He had one t35.
Hey, he's trending.
Oh, of course he is.
Like I told you, I talked toromance after the round and they
weren't playing in minnesotathis coming week, the 3M.
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But because they played well,they decided let's go Ride the
hot hand.
He got those valuable FedExCuppoints.
He's now in the top 70.
So he's playing in Memphis asof right now.
But you know what?
Let's go.
Let's go dude.
Graham (35:31):
Amazing With how he's been playing.
I mean I would think shooting 6six under has something to do
with it.
Yeah, six under DeChambeau.
Seven under today.
Yep, harris English.
Five under today.
Wyndham Clark I got banned fromOakmont Shot.
Six under today.
I mean there's some good scores.
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Matsuyama five under FleetwoodI thought you were going to do
better.
Five under, I mean, fleetwood.
I thought you were going to dobetter in this tournament, but
you still ate.
Fleetwood still finished minusseven.
You know, tied for 16.
I mean, I ain't mad at it.
Scott (36:07):
What did Rom shoot today?
I forgot Uh, minus exactlyNobody even cares.
Graham (36:18):
I knew you were setting me up.
Scott (36:20):
I knew it, dude.
I mean I mean come on, dude.
Graham (36:23):
The one thing that I will say is Mr Consistent, this
year former, you know, us Openwinner JJ Spahn, shot three
under today, two finish minustwo.
So at least he finished underpar for the tournament.
You know, tie for 40th that'sfine, but I mean the way the
Ryder Cup is setting up.
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There's going to be somequestions From the captain, and
we talked about this last nightWith Keegan's performance this
week.
If he doesn't Pick himself,it's a slap in the face To not
only himself as a player but toTeam USA.
Scott (37:06):
I'm just going to tell you this right now.
I'm going to tell you thisright now the players that are
in the top six, that areautomatically on the team, they
are not going to allow him notto pick himself.
Graham (37:19):
No, I know he's in it.
I'm just worried about the nextsix.
Scott (37:25):
He's playing dude.
He's 100% playing Right Now.
Colin Morikawa and PatrickCantlie yeah, they've got
experience playing in the RyderCup.
I really hope they're notplaying Wait hold on a second.
Graham (37:43):
I just saw something.
Did you see who finished T59?
I know that sounds Dude,old-ass.
Justin Leonard.
Yeah, how good is that.
He was even par after threerounds and shot plus two today.
But still for a guy thatdoesn't play tournament golf
anymore to shoot to not onlymake the cut but then finish it
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two over my apologies, I mean.
Scott (38:10):
Yeah, he beat Victor Hovland, who I bet on.
Graham (38:13):
I'm just looking at the score right now too.
Scott (38:15):
Yep, oh, that is hilarious lee westwood's old ass
made the cut dude.
Yeah, tied, john rom.
Yeah, here's the question.
Did lee westwood have the upslogo on his shirt this week?
Graham (38:36):
you know, I watched him tee off and play a few holes
round one.
I don't remember if I saw it.
I don't know, you know it's.
He's one of those guys like Iknow it won't happen I mean you
can never say never but like Iknow it won't happen now.
But if there ever was someonethat could literally pull a
miracle four rounds out of theirass For what he's went through
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in his career, how amazing itwould be for Westwood to
actually finally get a majorunder his belt.
That ain't happening.
No, I mean, I know it's not, Imean it's.
I mean he's the our version ofColin Montgomery.
I get it Granted, colinMontgomery dominated on the
European tour Versus Westwood.
But I'm just saying like For aguy to be right, I mean he,
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10-15 years ago, lee WestwoodWas in the thick of it All the
time.
I mean he was the top 15 player.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
Scott (39:35):
You know what I mean.
So I'm looking at Ryder Cupstandings.
It obviously has not beenupdated right after this event,
but you know our top six scottyxander spawn, henley de chambeau
and justin thomas are the topsix as of right now.
All six players that you wouldthink would be on the team,
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right?
I mean, yeah, then seventhrough 12, or morikawa, ben
griffin, keegan, harris english,mcneely, brian harman, andrew
novak at 13 and and Sam Burns at15.
I mean Keegan, I want him,harris, english, I want him.
(40:23):
Yep, sam Burns, I want him,just because of the way he putts
.
Could, you make a case forMcNeely.
Graham (40:36):
I don't know Just his consistency.
And look compared to last RyderCup.
I feel like I'm a littleshakier on the six captain picks
than I was at the previous time.
But thinking of it right now,one of the biggest things in
sports, especially in football,basketball, baseball it's not as
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much, but the home fieldadvantage.
I really think at Bethpage withthe hometown crowd and the New
Yorkers there, everyone that'sgoing to be talking shit that
our team will be top-heavy.
I still think the environmentthat will be curated is just
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going to elevate people's games.
Scott (41:27):
Well, like we were talking last night, you know
about the captain's picks andthe veterans and people who have
experience.
I want the opposite dude.
I want the young guy, benGriffin.
I want that guy.
Yeah, my guy was sellingmortgages two years ago.
Graham (41:48):
And now, what's he doing ?
Now what's he doing?
That's insane.
Scott (41:52):
Would you rather have Ben Griffin or Colin?
I fire my caddy every two weeks.
Morikawa Three years ago.
We all know the pick Right now.
Graham (42:04):
A year and a half ago.
We know the pick.
Scott (42:06):
Would you rather have and this is a tough one right now
would you rather have, brian Iwaggle my club 37 times Harmon
or Patrick?
Graham (42:15):
Stantley.
Well, I mean, I love how you'rebringing that up because you
know how I feel, but just forthe podcast sake, fuck Brian
Harmon, I'll take my chanceswith Cantley Dude.
I know, look.
Yeah, you said.
Look, this is Bethpage.
It's 78,000 fucking yards,mister, I can't hit it 300 off
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the tee.
Scott (42:43):
No, I don't want guess what.
Graham (42:43):
Yeah, he hits it straight and he puts the dimes
out of it.
I yeah.
And if it was a scramble orwell, no, they do best, or uh?
Alternate shot oh yeah, okay,yes, strategically and alternate
side, I could get away withthat.
But what happens on day threewhen you're playing individual
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matches?
Scott (43:08):
who cares you?
Fairway somebody to death.
I mean, let's just jump rightin the european team standings
as of last week.
Yeah, go ahead, just think oftheir top six.
And as I'm announcing this,remember who's not included Rory
Fleetwood, Big Bob Hatton, SeppStraka and Lowry.
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Okay, that doesn't include Rose.
That doesn't include LudwigSovlin, the guy that's dead to
me.
John Rahm's down there in thestandings at 20th.
So that's one, two, three.
Those four are definitely onthe team.
Oh, and let's don't forget, at22nd, Matt Fitzpatrick.
(43:52):
There's five captains fixedright there.
Graham (43:54):
Oh, matt Fitzpatrick, 100% is on the team.
Scott (43:58):
So who's the sixth?
Dietrich Rasmus Hohrgaard,Thomas Dietrich Aaron.
Graham (44:05):
Rye Dude Hohrgaard has been playing Consistent, and not
only that, he was one putt away.
Scott (44:15):
He was a putt yesterday on the 18th hole, away from
being paired up with his brotherFor the final round Of the Open
Championship.
What yeah, insane, insane, wow,yeah, his brother, nikolai, is
30th in the standings.
But I mean, we all know Rose,luda, avlin, brom and
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Fitzpatrick are on the team,without a doubt.
I'm low-key, worried about this.
Graham (44:50):
No, you're not.
You're more than low-key.
Don't lie to me, folks.
If you can see the look on hisface right now, I mean I don't
know yeah.
Dude, I really think that, andwhat I was saying earlier the
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home field advantage at Bethpagein New York is going to really
ignite the fire under Team USA.
Like I really do, like I saidfive minutes ago, we're kind of
top heavy, but the top heavyyeah, dude, our top heavy is how
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many of those players are inthe top 10?
Scott (45:37):
In the world.
Yeah, no, I mean Scotty,obviously number one.
Yeah, Roy, I mean Scottyobviously number one.
Yeah, Roy is number two.
And remember, the worldrankings are all bullshit
because of those guys that wentover and played the three rounds
.
Right, right, you know, but Idon't know.
Graham (45:57):
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
I'm just saying, like, I tellyou one thing the closer this
gets, the more infuriating it isto know that you're not going
to fucking be there with me,Because me and my boy are going
to be sitting right there in thestands right behind the first
tee box in 18th Green, rightthere and loving life.
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We're going to be getting liveupdates.
Scott (46:21):
I just I already told you , if rom doesn't come in the top
30, I was paying for your bailbecause yeah, you know, my 30
bet to win 70 is going to be alot cheaper than your bail in
long island, new york.
When you run out and cross bodyblock on rom and say why don't
(46:43):
you go to a goddamn bull run orsomething in spain, you asshat,
I mean just saying let's go.
Graham (46:55):
Just hey, man, I'm not trying to get banned from all
future events, bro, oh you'renot.
Scott (47:01):
Just don't leave a bald guy sticker anywhere on the best
page.
Graham (47:06):
I don't know about that, but yeah.
Scott (47:12):
Oh my God, I don't know.
I think the captain's pickshave to be announced before the
tour championship.
I believe We've got two regularseason events left the 3m and
then something in greensboro,north carolina, and then the
first round of the fedex cupplayoffs are in memphis, wow.
(47:32):
The second round of the fedexis, that is, in, uh, maryland,
the bmw at caves valley.
Your boy may or may not be ableto get up there.
I've got a member at our club,his brother's the head pro there
.
Oh Jesus, yeah, but.
And then obviously the tourchampionship is where it is, but
(47:53):
you know, with and then it'sstressful times.
Graham (47:59):
They changed it this year.
I know we talked about it, butthey changed it this year.
I know we talked about it, butthey changed.
They're not doing the strokesadvantage again for the tour
championship right it's justregular.
Scott (48:09):
Yeah, it's just regular, but something's gonna change.
They haven't said what.
I mean, like we said this year,next year's oh, there's no
straight.
I mean, like said last year, asmuch as we both love Keegan, he
won the one event at CastlePines and then that was his only
win and then he can go win thetour championship and win.
(48:31):
Yeah, it's going to besomething.
Who knows what it's going to be?
Graham (48:36):
I mean there is some merit to the scoring system the
way they have it, because it'slike dude.
How can you be the player ofthe year if you just sneak in
for each event?
You know what I mean, right, Iagree.
Scott (48:51):
I agree.
Like, imagine Fowler goes out,wins FedEx in Memphis and he
finishes 65 to qualify for FedEx.
Then he wins.
Then he goes to the BMW topfive and then goes to a
championship and wins, and hewins the FedEx Cup playoffs.
I mean I'd be happy as shit.
(49:13):
But, romano, you better beflying your boy somewhere,
because we going to party, Imean, and hopefully when we're
partying your boy ain't gettingrobbed for 800, and if that
ain't, a real.
(49:33):
If that ain't a real, it's gonnabe, and I'm sending it directly
to him got him, let's change itup real quick.
I mean real quick.
We're already 50 minutes intothis episode.
Training camp started this pastweek, started as first team to
report Because we obviously playin the Hall of Fame game.
(49:53):
You know why is that.
Graham (49:57):
Why's what I was throwing a shot, why you're
playing in the Hall of Fame game.
Scott (50:02):
Oh, because Antonio Gates wasn't a in the Hall of Fame
game.
Oh, because Antonio Gateswasn't a first ballot Hall of
Famer, because I guess everybodythat votes for that is blind,
dumb and retarded.
But that's just another.
You know Anyhow Mike Williamssigns with the Jets.
Last year Did he get traded toyou guys?
(50:22):
Yeah, Y'all traded for him,right?
Yeah, at the deadline, yeah.
And then signs with theChargers as a free agent.
Graham (50:31):
Dude, he caught a touchdown.
The first game, the first game,right, yeah, I think it was
against the Jets.
It might have been, I think itwas.
Scott (50:40):
And then he comes back, signs a one-year deal with the
Chargers.
Everybody's fired up because ofthe continuity between him and
Herbert.
He's a 50-50 ball guy theex-receiver and then starts camp
out on the PUP list and thenday two retires.
Weird, it is what it is.
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I'm sad because I like mikedubb, because you've seen it,
kellen has a glove from mikedubb that he gave him from a
game and my guy wears like sizefour extra large gloves.
It's insane.
You've seen it.
(51:20):
It's like my god.
If my guy's glove is that big,could you imagine never?
mind mom uh, finally, your boytj gets paid.
You know gonna be the highestdefensive player paid in the
(51:41):
league until Micah Parsons getspaid.
You know the scenario.
It's like oh, blah, blah, blah,blah, he's going to be the
highest, then he's going to bethe highest, yeah.
But Dude, what are the Cowboysdoing?
Why have they not signed hismother?
I, the Bengals, like Henderson,you're letting him run around
(52:05):
free.
I mean, your first round draftpick, you took 17-18 overall.
He ain't signed.
Yeah, you got Jamar Chase andHiggins, but remember, last year
you scored like 35 a game andgave up like 37 a game.
You know.
Graham (52:28):
What I'm going to say about Cincinnati, and it's just
this is off the top of my domeright now, is it?
I guess I got a question foryou as the owner of an
organization.
For you as an owner of anorganization, wouldn't you think
a goal for your organizationwould be to put the best team
(52:50):
out there to give you a chanceto win, and the ultimate goal
would be to win a Super Bowl?
Or are you just going to besomeone that says, hey, I got a
team, whether it be through thefamily or however, I got it, I
got the team and look, if we do,good, great.
If we don't, it is what it isand I'm just going to keep
trucking like I like.
(53:11):
I almost feel like there's nomotivation to win by the upper
upper management level well,you're talking to somebody
that's a fan of the Chargers.
Scott (53:23):
Dan Spanos is the owner.
Okay, you had Phillip Rivers,who was about as mobile as a
motherfucking giraffe and henever made a pick in the draft
for offensive linemen.
And how good did Phillip dorunning for his life, not being
(53:43):
an athletic guy, you know?
(53:48):
Yeah.
Scott (53:49):
Then Herbert gets drafted and you know obviously Harbaugh
and Joe Ortiz come in, and whatdo they do the first two years?
Graham (53:59):
O-line.
You got the biggest O-line inthe league.
Scott (54:03):
And somewhere Rivers is going.
Hey guys, remember me, you'vehit me on that, but that's where
Telesco, you know whatever,palmy T, whatever.
Graham (54:15):
No, I saw something earlier today.
The New Orleans Saints are theonly team in the NFL in which
their quarterback room has nowin in the NFL wow, wow, that's
(54:37):
a stat for you when I saw that Iwas like wait what?
Scott (54:42):
rewind.
Who's their quarterback room,Spencer Rattler.
A stat for you.
When I saw that, I was likewait what?
Alright, rewind.
Who's their quarterback room,Spencer Rattler.
The car retired.
Graham (54:49):
Yeah, and then Shuck or whatever the guy named as they
drafted.
Scott (54:54):
Oh, my boy TH is going to put more wins, wow, wow.
Graham (55:03):
Dying.
When I saw that I mean.
Scott (55:05):
I mean even my boy, mason Rudolph.
Yeah, that back in that draftyear I told Jerry he's going to
be the best one.
You know we've talked aboutthis on the show before.
I just got this screenshotbecause he's an idiot.
Speaking of which, jerry, yournumerology plays today sucked.
I'm glad I didn't send them toyou because they went one for
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three.
Graham (55:32):
Oh, thank the Lord.
Scott (55:34):
Yeah, he sent them to me way too early and I knew you
were still balls deep in yourturtle in your bed.
Graham (55:44):
Oh my God, I know this is rough Dude.
I set my alarm this morning towatch it.
Got the alarm blaring.
I'm like uh, I hit the fuckingbutton, I turn over.
Scott (55:57):
I texted you and I'm like Fowler Never heard a word from
you.
Graham (56:02):
No, you texted me before my alarm Went off.
I set my alarm for 10, my time.
I was like, look, I'll catchthe last Five Holes, or whatever
.
To be honest, I didn't thinkthey were going to be done at 11
.
I thought they were going to bedone at like.
Scott (56:19):
I texted you at 10 30, 10 , 30 my time, so 7 30 your time,
fowler, 11.
I thought they were going to bedone at like.
I texted you at 10.30.
10.30 my time, so 7.30 yourtime, fowler.
Graham (56:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Of course.
You told me last night oh, getup by 9 am.
And I was like, yeah, 10o'clock should be fine, I hit
that button.
Scott (56:40):
It was over.
It was over, I'm aware of that.
Graham (56:41):
I hit my alarm and then 10 o'clock should be fine.
Right, hit that button, it wasover, it was over.
Yeah, I'm aware of that.
I hit my alarm and then I rollover and next thing I know I
wake back up and it's 11.30 andI was like son of a bitch.
Scott (56:53):
But anyhow, as we wrap this show up, I just gotta throw
something out there, because Iposted it on the bald guy's
Instagram last night.
The WNBA All-Star game was lastnight and, yes, I know I can
hear Graham in the backgroundgoing who?
And I'm just going to respondto it Heirs, dude, they came out
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wearing t-shirts that said whatis it?
Pay us what you owe us, yeah,something like that.
Yeah, where is it?
Yeah, pay us what you owe us,dude, dude.
The league lost $50 million in2024.
(57:46):
And that's with Caitlin Clarkbeing the face of the league.
Graham (57:59):
You know, I really feel like if they're going to do
targeted media like that, theyshouldn't be provoking the
masses.
I really think their sloganshould be something to the
effect of let's go advertisers.
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What else do we need to do?
Because we've already beatenthis topic to death.
The portion of pay that theyget is far greater than the NBA
players, even across all theother sports the women
percentage they get more of thepercentage of the pie.
The problem is is the peoplewatching?
The reason why the NBA makes somuch money is because of the TV
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contracts, because they knowthe advertisers are paying the
money.
If you don't have peoplewatching the events, then
therefore advertisers do notwant to spend the money on said
networks to promote.
It's not the league's fault.
You need to tell the people hey, watch us and we'll make money.
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They just haven't gotten thereyet.
And the problem is, when theydo watch, it's to watch one
person, that's it.
I hate to say it that way, butit's just like they're watching
the one person.
If there was more CaitlinClarks out there, then it would
be a different story, but that'snot the case.
(59:29):
And I'm not saying there's notgood players in the WNBA.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that you can'tblame the league for the issue
in which is Boring.
You need I mean.
Scott (59:51):
my question is I'm just going to throw this out there.
Stats came out today for allthe All-Star games this year
Mm-hmm, okay, major LeagueBaseball All-Star game draws 7.2
million viewers, as most watchall-star event in sports.
I mean 4.6 million people watchthe NBA all-star game.
Graham (01:00:14):
2025, pro Bowl same thing which that's actually
pretty good considering.
Scott (01:00:21):
They didn't even say what the WNBA was Same, thing, which
that's actually pretty goodconsidering.
Graham (01:00:25):
They didn't even say what the.
WNBA was yeah, because KaitlynClark didn't play in the game.
She's been hurt.
So it's like, dude, I mean, ifwe're going to pull the curtain
back, kind of like how ShaneGillis did at the ESPY Awards, I
mean, let's be real, what worksworks.
(01:00:46):
What doesn't work doesn't work.
If people are following oneperson, it's just like, oh well,
we want this, we want this.
It's not what you have to do.
This is business.
You have to show value.
If you don't show value valueeven though you feel like you're
deserving of it and I'm notsaying that they're not
(01:01:07):
deserving of it, I'm not sayingthat I'm just saying that you
can't complain that you don'tmake enough money if you can't
convince people to watch you youain't wrong, and as we up
tonight, it's that time of theepisode.
(01:01:22):
Let's go.
Scott (01:01:26):
For the hot chick of the week, and Graham and I were back
and forth last night.
Back and forth.
We couldn't figure out who itwas going to be.
And then I finally figured outwho it was going to be.
Graham (01:01:44):
Who you sent last night.
Scott (01:01:46):
Yeah, I sent you a screenshot and an Instagram post
.
Yeah, and that's none otherthan an NFL reporter.
Graham (01:01:56):
Oh, I mean, if you didn't know what you thought I
was what I thought you weregoing for the country music
singer, the country music singer.
Yeah.
Scott (01:02:11):
Well, carly Pierce is always up there.
Yeah, I mean, just like AmandaBalyonis, she doesn't need to be
mentioned.
We're gonna go straight MelissaStark, let's go.
I mean, she doesn't need to bementioned, we're going to go
straight Melissa Stark, let's go.
I mean, what did I?
I looked her up last night.
What did I say?
She was 52?
Yeah, I believe I think she'sgot a twin 18-year-old girl that
(01:02:34):
are also the Smooches, so sheis our hot chick of the week.
Graham (01:02:38):
I mean it's not very often we have someone 50-plus as
the hot chick of the week.
I mean it's not very often wehave someone 50 plus as the hot
chick of the week.
Let's get a little golf clapfor her folks, a little golf
clap.
Scott (01:02:49):
That's a different kind of clap than I'd like to hear,
but anyhow, as we wrap uptonight, I hope y'all loved the
episode.
Fedex Cup playoff right aroundthe corner training camp
Graham's losing his shit rightnow laughing.
That could have been thefunniest thing I've ever said on
this show.
(01:03:09):
I was trying to play it offGraham way to blow that.
Love you all and we'll see younext week.
Graham (01:03:19):
Scott, it's been a pleasure.
I'm glad we were able to getback.
Scott, it's been a pleasure,you know, I'm glad we were able
to get back to it.
Do another episode.
I can't believe you couldn'tplay that off better than that,
bro.
When you drop fucking haymakerslike that, I, dude, you knocked
me out.
I didn't know what to say rightthere.
I was speechless, and that'swhy I'm going to knock you out.
Scott (01:03:41):
Mama said knock, and that's why I'm gonna knock you
out.
Mama said knock you out.
Little hello, let's go as weleave.
Dude, little what's?
Scotty sheffield's son, namedbennett I think yeah.
Yeah, dude, when scotty was onthe green with the trophy and
his son was running up you knowthe green and he dropped and
(01:04:01):
fell, I saw a meme that was likeoh, daniel Jones has got the
ball and falls on the 20.
Thought I was going to die, butanyhow, graham, get us out of
here.
Graham (01:04:14):
Scott, it's always a pleasure doing the podcast with
you, especially when you dropbombs like that.
And hey, as the best homiealways says, Booba.
Scott (01:04:23):
Good night friends.
Good night, major championshipsin 2025.
Good night, JomRom.
You're officially dead to me.
Have fun at the bowl races andI hope you get your ass whooped
at Beth Page, especially whenGraham cross-body blocks you.
Love you all.
Good night.
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Welcome to another episode of the Ball Guys on the Bench
podcast, with your hosts GrahamCohen and Scott Wasco.
Scott (00:21):
What's up everyone and welcome back to another episode
of the Ball Guys on the Bench.
It's a championship sundayepisode.
I know, I know graham and I'vebeen slacking for the last
couple weeks to didn't get anepisode out.
But you know, life happens,summer happens.
Graham, what up?
G?
Graham (00:40):
What's up, brother?
Just loving life, enjoying theweather.
It's not too hot yet, but seena couple movies, watched a lot
of G this past week and I'mexcited.
But other than that, Scott, Igot this cold beer right here
and I'm pretty thirsty.
What do you think?
Should we grab one and crackone?
I've been waiting.
Scott (00:59):
Yeah, let's go, let's go.
So before we even jump into theOpen Championship, you know how
was your weekend.
You know what'd you do?
I mean you just said youwatched some golf, hung out in
the kiddie pool in the backyardwith the roommates.
I mean, try to get that albinoface a little color on it.
(01:22):
You know?
I mean what else?
I haven't seen some movies.
Graham (01:26):
I mean hey, I'm getting as dark as you there, playa, so
better slow your roll.
Yeah, I know anyway.
Um, what has been going on?
Uh, yeah, just pretty much.
You know, relaxing, been jobhunting, um, seeingen a couple
good movies recently, but reallyjust the big news for me and
(01:50):
you know, we'll talk about itlater but TJ Watt man finally
happened.
It's over, don't got to worryabout that shit anymore.
It's ready for preseason andlet's get it going.
So that's pretty much what'sgoing on for me over here.
What about you, brother?
Scott (02:05):
You know, same thing Off.
Yesterday my sister and nephewsin town went to the Norfolk
Tides.
You know AAA game last nightand it was great because they
were actually playing the MetsAAA team, the Syracuse Mets, and
you know the Mets.
Old starting catcher, franciscoAlvarez, was in town because he
had been slacking.
(02:26):
They sent him down for a littleassignment.
My guy hit 12 home runs in Iguess 15 games.
Actually, last night at thegame we were at, didn't hit one,
but hit one today and hit itliterally over the batter's eye
in center field, Straight away,dead center, talking about bomb
and after the game got recalledback up to the nets.
(02:47):
So fun time, you know.
Woke up morning, watched alittle golf and you know I mean
let's just jump right into it,dude.
Uh, I don't even know what tosay.
I mean you and I were talkingabout it last night.
I mean this dude is somethingelse and yeah, everybody's
(03:08):
comparing him to Tiger and youknow it's close dude.
I mean I'm not saying close toTiger, I mean he's got four
majors.
Tiger had what?
What did Tiger finish with?
15?
Yeah, but what my guy has donein this little amount of time is
Tiger-esque.
Yeah, but what my guy has donein this little amount of time is
(03:32):
tiger-esque.
You know, yes, I mean just tobefore you even go into it.
You probably didn't see thefirst hole today because it was
so early West Coast time, butdude, they come out.
On the first hole today myguy's got a four-shot lead.
He's playing with the Chinesedude, hal Tong Li or whatever
his name is, and my guy Listuffs it in to like four feet.
(03:54):
Okay, on the first hole hisapproach shot and what's
Scheffler do?
Oh, he knocks it inside theleather dude Like tap in, cleans
his ball ball, marks it, tapsit in like it was, like
everybody's, like oh, whole timelee's going out, he's gonna
(04:15):
make force and scotty's likeyeah, bro, hang on, guy.
You know I'm just gonna hitthis dick tight and let's just
keep moving on.
Graham (04:24):
I mean, don't forget about me over here.
Scott (04:28):
Greatest iron player in the game, maybe history, at the
way we're going right now.
Graham (04:35):
I mean, it's early and it's a crazy to say it's early
after you have four majorchampionships already.
But you know, listening to thecommentary on the Golf Channel
after, after it was over, justall the comparisons that they're
trying to make, and it's just,you know, they said it pretty
clearly it's just like look, yes, he's dominating in a sense,
(04:55):
like how tiger was, but it'sjust, it's a completely
different feel, it's acompletely different way that
he's coming going about it.
You know what I mean.
Scott (05:03):
I'll say this though the players right now are stronger
than what they were when tigerwas dominating oh, facts a
hundred percent that's what'scrazy that's what's crazy.
Graham (05:15):
Right, they were showing a lot of examples of what a lot
of people were so mystifiedwith.
Tiger was you know?
Yes, what he brought to thegame and all that stuff I'm not
talking about that, but just hisgame itself was a lot of.
It was just the miraculousshots that he had to come up
with.
Right, we could do a whole houron just the shots.
(05:35):
Yeah, that he hit.
But you know, as I've mentionedin previous episodes, the thing
with scotty is you don't haveto hit those shots exactly he's
been so consistent and dialed in.
He's like why would I need tohit that?
I'm in the fairway, why would Iyou know what I mean like I'm
not all the way over there.
(05:56):
I don't have this bad lie inthe bunker, I'm not six miles
right of right yeah, you knowwhat I mean.
And when, when he is, he takeshis medicine, gets out of it,
takes a par and says, all right,let's go, Just no big deal.
And just watching him play it'salmost like the nonchalance,
(06:18):
but I mean it's not.
He's just so calm and so dialedin.
And plus, I mean the biggestthing during this whole week of
the tournament from what he wassaying in interviews before,
during and after, is he made itvery clear what golf means to
him and where it stands in hislife.
It don't matter.
(06:39):
You know what I mean, and it'sjust like there's a lot of
people that hear thatno-transcript.
Scott (07:06):
It doesn't matter.
Now you know he celebrates fortwo minutes and moves on.
That's easy to say when youhave that many zeros in your
bank account.
You've won multiple majors.
Think about is he saying thatif he's grinding for his PGA
tour card for next year?
(07:24):
that if he's grinding for his PGA Tour card for next year.
Scott (07:27):
Oh, you know what I mean.
I mean I hate to play devil'sadvocate, but yes, I appreciate
Scotty, I appreciate what he'sdoing out there because you know
he made that double today on Idon't know, it was either seven
or eight where he tried to hitthat shot out of the bunker.
And what's he do?
He followed it up with what?
A birdie on nine.
Yeah, I mean, like you saidearlier, he don't miss many
(07:54):
fairways and it's insane, dude.
I mean it's fun to watch and Ifinally you know me as a golf
pro who's made my life aroundthe sport of golf in the back of
my mind I've always been likeall right, yeah, we're
witnessing something special,we're witnessing something
special.
But when he did what he did onFriday and shot 64, I finally
(08:20):
stuck it up and was like allright, this dude is the deal.
Oh and, and started looking upsome crazy stats and dude from
2022 to 2025 for Scotty versustiger 20,.
2002 to 2005.
(08:41):
Scotty's played in the 81events.
Tiger 79.
Scotty's got 20 wins, fourmajors, two players,
championships.
Tiger had 79 events, 18 wins,four majors, zero players.
Both of them are 2.8 strokesgain.
Dude, they're both incredible.
Okay, incredible, with Scotty'swin today 10 in a row with a
(09:07):
54-hole lead.
You know how many Tiger hadafter a 54-hole lead winning in
a row.
Nah, hit me with it, let's try37.
37.
Graham (09:26):
How about this?
Scott (09:27):
Go back to that last stat you were talking about and just
really explain more of theimportance of the strokes gained
, because a lot of people don'tknow what that means and I knew
you were going to ask thattonight, so I kind of researched
it Because I don't have the 100exact definition of it.
Right, right it's.
It's basically where you are inthe fairway versus where your
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approach lands on the green,versus how many putts it takes
you to get it in.
Okay, it's not a green andregulation.
Okay, right, a green andregulation is just a stat.
Right, it's.
Did I hit the fairway?
Yes, did I hit the green?
Yes, but what scotty's doing isincredible, especially at a
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venue like royal port rush,where there's not a shit ton of
bunkers notice, we didn't see alot of the carnage and bunkers
right, like we normally see inthe open championship.
It's all about fairways.
And what does scotty do?
He hits fairways.
And what is he?
The best iron player in thegame.
I mean, for instance, yesterday, 600 plus yard par five.
(10:35):
Granted, it was downwind, butmy guy hits his drive 380 in the
fairway.
He's got 220, and he hits eightiron and controls the distance.
Thanks for playing.
Yeah, that's part of it, dude,it's not about bombing it.
You got to control yourdistance on your second shot.
(10:57):
You know you got to get it close, especially when it's downwind
like this, and dude the guy'scontrol with his irons.
It just like I mean, if heputted as well as Tiger he'd be
like.
Graham (11:12):
Jack who.
Scott (11:14):
Dude, and Rory has gotten to be the most bitter betty
person on the planet forsuggesting Scotty to go into the
spider putter amount.
I mean because that was allRory's idea and after that
happened it was like good nightworld.
I mean, my boy, kia Ma, down atTaylor made is like.
(11:35):
I talked to him the other day.
He's making your boy one too,by the way, right now.
I'll be here this week.
Uh, dude, I'm like dude, whatin the hell?
And he goes.
You know it's the best putterout there.
I mean, look at the guy, lookat the guy.
It's changed.
And now how many people I knowhe won, won the PGA and you know
(11:56):
, won the master's last year.
How many people you think areout there on the practice
screens right now trying to puttwith the claw grip right now?
Graham (12:06):
trying to putt with the claw grip.
I dude, I don't want to sayeverything is a fad, but I mean
it's gonna happen.
Once you see someone beconsistent or I don't see be
consistent, someone go from anokay putter to oh, you made a
change, and now this works, andnow your consistency went up and
(12:28):
now you're winning tournamentslike, oh well, if it works for
him, it might work for me.
I mean, if you're gonna saythat, how about matt fitzpatrick
doing the low hand with a chip?
Scott (12:38):
hey, the cross all week?
Yeah, I was literally.
It's so funny you bring that upbecause one of my assistants at
my club.
I was talking to him about itfriday at work the last time I
was at augusta I literallywatched fitzpatrick for like
five holes.
You know, practice aroundthey're hitting shots from all
over the place and they're on.
He's hitting pitch shots andshit around the greens and I
(13:01):
literally followed him for fourholes by myself just because I
wanted to see.
You know, it's augusta, dude,you got the fastest greens, you
got these undulations, you gotto hit your spot and
fitzpatrick's just nippingeverything.
Yeah, vj was one of the firstpeople to do it back in the day,
but, dude, it's wild.
(13:22):
And you know another performanceby Fitzpatrick.
You know good tournament.
You know, I don't know, dude,all I can say is this Scottie,
he's 29 years old.
Okay, he has three legs of thecareer Grand Slam before 30.
Shot all rounds this week inthe 60s.
Gary Player, jack, nicklaus,tiger and now Scotty are the
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only four people to exactly winthe Masters, pga and Open before
age 30.
There's eight people to winthree legs of the Grand Slam
before the age of 30.
Yep, but only four that havewon those exact events right.
But here's the kicker dude.
And here's the thing, and Iheard this this afternoon and I
was talking to you about it.
You know the US Open next yearis at Shinnecock Amazing venue,
(14:10):
historic venue, and it finishesthis US Open Sundays on June
21st.
We all know the history US Openalways finishes on Father's Day
.
But not only is it Father's Day, but guess what, it's Scotty's
30th birthday.
Graham (14:28):
Close to my sister's birthday, shout out.
Scott (14:32):
I'm just going to say I'll take Scotty for the win for
a thousand, Alex.
Graham (14:37):
Oh, as of right now.
Scott (14:39):
I just looked it up it's plus 320.
What Plus 320.
That's crazy low.
Graham (14:48):
Has his odds for a major ever been that low?
Scott (14:52):
I think it's the same for Augusta next year.
I mean it's a golf tournament,dude Plus 320.
Graham (15:01):
Yeah, and folks, shinnecock is no walk in the
park, plus 320 there.
Scott (15:07):
Yeah and folks.
Shinnecock is no walk in thepark like it's plus 320, dude
what?
Graham (15:12):
oh my god Shinnecock hey , maros, long Island right yeah
yeah, no it is.
Scott (15:21):
so listen to this Scotty.
Since 2020, he's 111 under parin the majors 46 shots better
than anyone else in that spanany sport.
Graham (15:46):
I, I get it.
I get it, but I tell you whatand and I'm not even saying it
like when we used to talk about,like, the difference between
jack and tiger, I mean it's alldifferent because a lot of that
had to do with you know theequipment, you know the clubs,
the balls, like all that stuff.
So that's not really even afair comparison.
Scott (15:58):
But I mean, in this day and age, man, in this day and
age, the players are better no,no for sure, no, no.
Graham (16:06):
What I was going to say was it's just like.
In this day and age it's aneasier comparison, but it's just
like just to imagine.
Look, I loved watching, youknow, the tiger, phil, you know
for all those years.
Or even, or the big easy, um,vj and stuff.
But, dude, just to imagine anyof the majors, because they're
(16:29):
all different, but Scottie andTiger going head-to-head, just
two studs in their own right,but the difference in their
games.
But it's just wow, justimagining what that would look
like, especially if they bothhad.
It's just wow, just imaginingwhat that would look like,
especially if they both had itthat week, just to see what
(16:50):
would happen.
You know, type of a thing.
Scott (16:53):
Like longtime caddy for Nicholson Bones said I read this
to you last night.
You know he's caddy forNicholson forever and then went
and caddy for JT for a littlewhile.
He said never in my life wouldI ever imagine to watch a player
do what I watched Tiger do andwe're watching it.
Part of Tiger Was theintimidation factor.
Graham (17:19):
Oh, I can go down a limb and say it's more than a part.
To be honest, I would saythat's 35%.
Scott (17:27):
And what Tiger did For the game of golf.
Right, the intimidation factor.
I heard this the other day.
Everybody on the live tourShould be thanking Tiger for
what he did to golf.
Yeah, oh, 100%.
Graham (17:38):
This the other day everybody on the live tour
Should be thinking tiger forwhat he Did to golf.
Yeah, oh, 100%.
I mean, bro, I got two wordsFor you.
Have you ever heard of the guyNamed Stephen Ames?
I mean.
Scott (17:49):
Talking Trash and the match play and then Gets boat
raced to At La Costa yeah 10 and8 like I mean what to speak in
a live and where players go todie?
Cam Smith, dude, I'm not goingto dog on him long, but Cam
Smith is the only player thisyear to play in all four majors
(18:12):
and then miss the cut in allfour majors.
And this is a guy that won theOpen at St Andrews, won the
players the same year, 2022.
Irrelevant yeah, majors.
And this is a guy that won theopen at st andrews, won the
players the same year, 2022,irrelevant.
Graham (18:26):
Yeah, I, I don't want to keep him in a haunt.
We talked about this last nightand you know I'll bring it up.
I'm gonna asterisk this and airquote this.
When it comes to him, he was,I'm going to say, on top of the
world.
But I mean, after winning thosemajors, he was consistent, he
was in the top 10 on the PGAtour.
(18:47):
He was doing his thing.
That's great.
The whole live thing and whatwe've said in previous episodes.
It all comes down to, as theindividual, what they want in
life and, honestly, this is kindof a good correlation.
I mean, look at Scotty.
Scotty said point blank golfisn't everything.
(19:07):
He's like I play golf.
He's like I would do this forno money.
The fact that I am making moneyand I see it on my bank account
, yeah, that's nice.
But I just come out here tocompete because I love money.
Scott (19:21):
I would say I don't do it for the money too.
If I had $150 million in thebank.
Pretty easy to say that whenyou got generational wealth for
your kids, grandkids, grandkids,grandkids, to never have to
lift a finger and you're good togo.
Graham (19:40):
I understand that, but has Tiger ever said that he
hasn't had to?
I'm just saying.
Scott (19:45):
I'm just saying Like I said last night, I don't argue
about the older players thatwent to live.
Right, brendan Steele, a buddyof mine, you know, hendrick
Stinson, sergio, these types ofplayers, like I always called it
the 401k for pga tour players,right, a guy like cam smith.
(20:06):
You know john rom, thought hewas going to be the guy that was
the person that got everybodyto switch to live tour and
instead, you know he'sofficially dead to me after his
t for 34th finish today, when Ihad him in a parlay to finish
top 30 and playing the easiestgolf course, easiest conditions
at the Open Championship on theweekend that we've seen in a
(20:28):
while.
And thanks, john Rom.
You know, have fun.
You know T for 34.
You're dead to me.
Never bet on you again.
Appreciate it.
But anyhow, let's talk aboutsomebody on the live tour that
is a shining star and that doesmove the needle and literally is
the only one on the live tourthat moves the needle and that's
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none other than Bryson yeah, Imean my boy.
Bryson shoots 78 in the firstround, plays the last three
rounds 16 under.
Graham (21:00):
Yeah, thanks for my DeChambeau bet to miss the cut.
Thanks for going out andshooting 8 under on Friday,
jackass Dude, or 7 under,whatever it was, like my bad 16
under in the last 54 holes outat the open.
I'll say that that performance Imean look, we thought he was
(21:21):
already going to be in anyway,but dude, that performance there
and Keegan saw it I mean forhim to shoot the plus eight day
one right, it was either pluseight or plus seven day one and
then for him to come back and dothat was just like okay, yeah,
you're on the team.
It's unofficially officialBryson.
Scott (21:40):
I heard an interview after Friday's round when he
made the cut he was like afterthe first round.
He was like I was just like I'mready to go home, I'm done.
And then he was like nope, myparents, everybody taught me
don't give up till it's over.
Thumbs out and grind.
Yeah, and that was the storyabout Bryson heading into this
(22:01):
week was.
You know, everybody knows heplays these same length irons.
He hits the ball to the moon.
You know he's a fast swing,speed guy.
I don't know if anybody saw thehighlights of him with the side
hill lie.
It was like the ball was on at-ball.
He's playing t-ball, remember.
His pitching wide is the samelength as his seven iron.
I believe that ain't easy andthat was the main focus going
(22:24):
into him.
He ended this week with him is.
You know?
That's why you and I both betbryson to miss the cut and we're
both like air high-fiving fromchesapeake, virginia to nevada
after the 78 we're like let's go.
I'm like Graham, did you takethe bet?
You're like hell, yeah, I did.
I'm like let's go.
And then the asshole goes outand shoots you know nothing on
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Friday and we're just like youknow is he going to be.
But you know, dude Rory, it'snot even a doubt.
Yeah, rory's second timeplaying Royal Port Rush,
basically in his hometown, wenta lot better than the first time
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in 19, where he missed the cut.
I mean remember in 19, rory'sopening tee shot of the event.
He hit it out of bounds.
Graham (23:17):
There was a bunch of players that almost hit it out
of bounds.
Dude day one with that windyeah and rain yeah.
Scott (23:24):
Well for Rory.
I mean Rory had a good finishand he said it in his interview.
You know he goes.
It was a good performance.
He goes Scottie's just onanother planet and he is.
But the best thing about rorydude.
How about that shot yesterdaywhen he drove it in the rough
and he actually hit a ball thatwas embedded underneath his golf
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ball?
How insane was that.
I mean it was wild.
It's happened before and Idon't remember who it was, but
that was wild.
I mean the look on his face,the announcers, they're all like
what the?
It was sick.
And I do have to give a shoutout to my boy, smiley Kaufman.
Graham (24:12):
Yeah, what happened with that?
I saw something.
Scott (24:14):
Dude Smiley for everybody out there, if you don't listen
to to the smiley podcast, golisten to it because it's sick.
But smiley had a hot mic andsomebody forget who it was was
taking so long on the green.
He thought he was not on airand he just goes.
What the fuck like?
Very quiet, it wasn't loud, youknow, wasn't loud at all and of
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he had to come out with theapology.
Graham (24:41):
Of course, of course.
But look, it's situations likethat that we need, because, hey,
pace of play is not thegreatest on tour right now.
So a little recognition is notthat bad.
Scott (24:58):
Dude pace of play.
How about like five hours and45 minutes for the last couple
groups on Thursday and Friday?
Graham (25:06):
I mean, does that not add to the difficulty of trying
to win a tournament and goingdown the road just sitting?
Scott (25:13):
there waiting.
Graham (25:14):
It's the worst.
Scott (25:16):
Oh for sure, the best rounds of golf I've ever played
were me and my boy BT, out atgoose Creek, tn.
Off, when it's literally dark,yeah, and nobody's in front of
us, and when you play 18 holesof golf and basically three
hours, why you ain't thinkingyou're hitting shot, hitting
shot, you're hitting shot,you're hitting shot.
Graham (25:37):
Now you add a major championship and this long and
it's this much pressure, a grind, and it's like, oh yeah, it's
bad now, I know you don't play alot of solo rounds, maybe,
maybe even a solo nine, but likeif it was just you and and I'm
not saying this like asking,like if you're trying to speed,
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but you're just playing yourgame like how, how long are you
getting through a 9 or an 18 byyourself on a cart?
Scott (26:04):
if I'm just, you know, normally when I go out solo and
I'm playing just nine holes orwhatnot, I'm hitting a couple
shots, yeah, okay.
But you know, and mike tree,who was on our episode a couple
weeks ago when I was playingstuff, he used to always tell me
when you go out by yourself,always play the game, play two
balls, play your three woodversus your driver off every tee
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.
And that's what I doInteresting, yeah, the funny
thing is three wood always went,but it's hilarious.
But you know, if I, if I wentout there, if I went out there
and played like from start tofinish, just playing one golf
ball, yeah, myself, nobody holdme up I could play nine holes at
my club in an hour and 15minutes.
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Yeah, sounds about right,easily, easily dude, I've.
Graham (26:54):
I remember there was a couple guys at the club that I
worked at in New York that whenI caddy for them and I'm saying
like walking, we finished twoand a half yeah.
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Dude you know what I mean.
Scott (27:09):
BT and I at Goose Creek, we would literally tee off in
the summer.
I couldn't even see my golfball.
I mean, it's dark First out and, like range finder, ain't even
getting the pin on the firsthole because it's dark.
But, dude, we would tee off at6 30 and we'd be done 8 45 two
of us, dude.
Graham (27:29):
I remember our club champion at the time.
He would come and just play,like do quick rounds on a card.
I just you know I didn't evenneed to four caddy, like he
would just keep hitting it inthe fairway like there was no
point.
So I would just like be on thecart with him.
We did 18 holes I on a cart, Ithink, in like an hour and 40
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hour, 45 minutes and dude and heshot one over.
Like it's amazing what happenswhen you hit the fairway Hit the
green, two putt, go on to thenext hole.
Scott (28:01):
Why?
Because you're not thinking.
Graham (28:03):
Yeah, 100% You're not thinking.
Bang, bang, boom go.
Getting back to Scottie youmentioned, I wrote it down.
You hit one of the two stats.
There's one that I don't wantto say that you missed, but I
saw it on the TV and it has tobe said.
Scottie's one that I won't saythat you missed, but I saw it on
the TV and it just kind of ithas to be said.
Scotty's one of three playersin the last 100 years.
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Folks, let's think about that.
Out of all the golfers thathave played in the last hundred
years, he's one of three playersto win four majors by three
strokes or more.
What, and I mean, should I evenask who you think the other two
were?
I mean, it's just that obvious.
Well, I know Tiger's one ofthem.
Scott (28:48):
Yeah, the third person, is it Jack?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah, it was funny today,you know, with Scotty winning
in Ireland, he said and theannouncer said it was kind of
like back in the day when Jackbeat Arnie at Oakmont in the
playoff, you know Arnie's fromPennsylvania and the whole world
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was pulling for Arnie andScotty said today he goes.
Everybody was obviously pullingfor Rory.
It was weird, he goes.
Everybody was obviously pullingfor Rory.
It was weird, he goes.
It was weird and he goes.
Yeah, I did hear some you knowUSA chants and some Texas chants
and this and that, but you knowit was weird.
And I loved at the end when theannouncers were all like trying
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to, you know, get Scotty to go.
Yeah, I'm going out and Royalport rush tonight with the
trophy, like Lowry did in 1921,obviously Lowry and Irish guy
and Scotty was just like I can'twait to be on my couch.
It was yeah.
Graham (29:55):
But didn't Scotty just refreshment?
Was it after the masters thathe went out to the bar, his
local bar?
When he got home and celebrated?
Scott (30:04):
That was spawned.
Graham (30:07):
No, no, no, not this year Spawned oh.
No, like two years ago, becausewe talked about it.
Scott (30:12):
Probably.
Yeah, he was, because Scotty'sfrom Dallas.
Yeah, he showed up somewhere.
Yeah, he's been a member ofRoyal Oaks forever, since he was
a little kid.
Once again same coach, randySmith.
I mean dude.
Graham (30:28):
You know, one thing that I heard in his interview, like
the official interview after itwas over he said something that
kind of was just like you knowfolks, it's like if you want to
be good at something, you needto put in all your effort.
And the thing that he said wasI've always wanted to be a
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professional golfer.
And in doing that he knew thaton the PGA Tour they all wear
pants.
Like you have to wear pants.
So when he was younger he wouldwear pants in the heat in Texas
and everyone used to make funof him, yep, but he's like you
know what I'm just trainingmyself for when that time comes.
And when he said that I waslike what?
Scott (31:13):
You know the crazy thing about Scotty and I and I've done
a lot of diving into him and ifyou listen to the Subpar
podcast, colt Nose is from thatarea, been a member at Royal
Oaks forever.
Colt Nose is obviously a USamateur champion played on the
tour this and that Dude.
Scotty was at Royal Oakswatching and looking up to all
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these dudes from Dallas at RoyalOaks on the range just
absorbing it all.
And Scotty won like a millionjunior golf tournaments, like
over 150 junior golf tournaments.
Went to Texas, didn't have themost amazing college resume.
You know he won tournaments andstuff and everybody's like
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where did this guy come from?
And they're like he finallygrew into it.
Everybody says the motivationand the confidence that scotty
got was when he was a captain'spick on the rider cup team that
played at whistling street andon that sunday singles match he
was paired up and his match wasagainst rom and he drummed rom
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and after that it was like gameover and that's what gave him
the belief in himself.
I mean, dude, his first 70 pgatour starts zero wins.
If next 80, 17 wins, twoMasters, four Majors, two
players and a gold medal.
Graham (32:46):
I mean, you know, as you're talking, I'm just looking
at the final leaderboard rightnow.
Obviously, the weather wasn't afactor, because— it was the
first two days.
No, no, no, I'm saying thisfinal round Like this final
round.
I mean, I'm not counting Everyindividual, but there's Less
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than 10 people out of 70 thatshot over par.
Scott (33:11):
Right, it was easier.
Conditions for Sunday, for sure.
Graham (33:17):
And the worst part is Surprising numbers, john Wrong
for sunday for sure, like it was, I mean and the worst part is
it's just like surprisingnumbers yeah, john ron, plus
four on wrong.
Well, john ron, you asked thatI wasn't even bringing him up, I
swear to god, but it's justlike but I am, because it was
easy and he was a favorite foreverybody.
Scott (33:33):
John ron, john ron, he's playing great.
Graham (33:35):
I know know, hey, I bet it too there, homie, I bet it
there too, go hang out at a bullrace in Spain, you asshat, but
I'm just looking at these scores.
You know, Lowry minus fivetoday.
What else we got?
Dude McNeely minus five today.
Scott (33:54):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, can we talk?
Graham (33:59):
about our boy.
He was the next one on the list.
I was just going slowly up.
Scott (34:05):
He should have been the fucking first Fowler with a 6'5"
with two bogeys.
Let's go.
Graham (34:11):
Let's go, brother, hey congratulations, Romance.
Scott (34:16):
I mean, let's just talk about this.
I was looking it up.
Yeah, go ahead.
I hate to bring it up because Ihate it, because he's my boy,
Dude Fowler 21 birdies this week.
Guess where that leaves him inbirdies made Tied for first.
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Yeah, you already know, because I told you yeah, tied
for first, tied for first, yeahyou already know, because I told
you yeah, yeah, tied for firsttied for first dude, you clean
up a few holes which,unfortunately, say the other
stat I mean he shot 65 with twobogeys today, 30 on the back
nine.
Scott (34:55):
I mean his pars he had 39 pars, that's t65, bogeys, 11
t41 and then doubles.
He had one t35.
Hey, he's trending.
Oh, of course he is.
Like I told you, I talked toromance after the round and they
weren't playing in minnesotathis coming week, the 3M.
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But because they played well,they decided let's go Ride the
hot hand.
He got those valuable FedExCuppoints.
He's now in the top 70.
So he's playing in Memphis asof right now.
But you know what?
Let's go.
Let's go dude.
Graham (35:31):
Amazing With how he's been playing.
I mean I would think shooting 6six under has something to do
with it.
Yeah, six under DeChambeau.
Seven under today.
Yep, harris English.
Five under today.
Wyndham Clark I got banned fromOakmont Shot.
Six under today.
I mean there's some good scores.
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Matsuyama five under FleetwoodI thought you were going to do
better.
Five under, I mean, fleetwood.
I thought you were going to dobetter in this tournament, but
you still ate.
Fleetwood still finished minusseven.
You know, tied for 16.
I mean, I ain't mad at it.
Scott (36:07):
What did Rom shoot today?
I forgot Uh, minus exactlyNobody even cares.
Graham (36:18):
I knew you were setting me up.
Scott (36:20):
I knew it, dude.
I mean I mean come on, dude.
Graham (36:23):
The one thing that I will say is Mr Consistent, this
year former, you know, us Openwinner JJ Spahn, shot three
under today, two finish minustwo.
So at least he finished underpar for the tournament.
You know, tie for 40th that'sfine, but I mean the way the
Ryder Cup is setting up.
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There's going to be somequestions From the captain, and
we talked about this last nightWith Keegan's performance this
week.
If he doesn't Pick himself,it's a slap in the face To not
only himself as a player but toTeam USA.
Scott (37:06):
I'm just going to tell you this right now.
I'm going to tell you thisright now the players that are
in the top six, that areautomatically on the team, they
are not going to allow him notto pick himself.
Graham (37:19):
No, I know he's in it.
I'm just worried about the nextsix.
Scott (37:25):
He's playing dude.
He's 100% playing Right Now.
Colin Morikawa and PatrickCantlie yeah, they've got
experience playing in the RyderCup.
I really hope they're notplaying Wait hold on a second.
Graham (37:43):
I just saw something.
Did you see who finished T59?
I know that sounds Dude,old-ass.
Justin Leonard.
Yeah, how good is that.
He was even par after threerounds and shot plus two today.
But still for a guy thatdoesn't play tournament golf
anymore to shoot to not onlymake the cut but then finish it
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two over my apologies, I mean.
Scott (38:10):
Yeah, he beat Victor Hovland, who I bet on.
Graham (38:13):
I'm just looking at the score right now too.
Scott (38:15):
Yep, oh, that is hilarious lee westwood's old ass
made the cut dude.
Yeah, tied, john rom.
Yeah, here's the question.
Did lee westwood have the upslogo on his shirt this week?
Graham (38:36):
you know, I watched him tee off and play a few holes
round one.
I don't remember if I saw it.
I don't know, you know it's.
He's one of those guys like Iknow it won't happen I mean you
can never say never but like Iknow it won't happen now.
But if there ever was someonethat could literally pull a
miracle four rounds out of theirass For what he's went through
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in his career, how amazing itwould be for Westwood to
actually finally get a majorunder his belt.
That ain't happening.
No, I mean, I know it's not, Imean it's.
I mean he's the our version ofColin Montgomery.
I get it Granted, colinMontgomery dominated on the
European tour Versus Westwood.
But I'm just saying like For aguy to be right, I mean he,
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10-15 years ago, lee WestwoodWas in the thick of it All the
time.
I mean he was the top 15 player.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
Scott (39:35):
You know what I mean.
So I'm looking at Ryder Cupstandings.
It obviously has not beenupdated right after this event,
but you know our top six scottyxander spawn, henley de chambeau
and justin thomas are the topsix as of right now.
All six players that you wouldthink would be on the team,
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right?
I mean, yeah, then seventhrough 12, or morikawa, ben
griffin, keegan, harris english,mcneely, brian harman, andrew
novak at 13 and and Sam Burns at15.
I mean Keegan, I want him,harris, english, I want him.
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Yep, sam Burns, I want him,just because of the way he putts
.
Could, you make a case forMcNeely.
Graham (40:36):
I don't know Just his consistency.
And look compared to last RyderCup.
I feel like I'm a littleshakier on the six captain picks
than I was at the previous time.
But thinking of it right now,one of the biggest things in
sports, especially in football,basketball, baseball it's not as
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much, but the home fieldadvantage.
I really think at Bethpage withthe hometown crowd and the New
Yorkers there, everyone that'sgoing to be talking shit that
our team will be top-heavy.
I still think the environmentthat will be curated is just
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going to elevate people's games.
Scott (41:27):
Well, like we were talking last night, you know
about the captain's picks andthe veterans and people who have
experience.
I want the opposite dude.
I want the young guy, benGriffin.
I want that guy.
Yeah, my guy was sellingmortgages two years ago.
Graham (41:48):
And now, what's he doing ?
Now what's he doing?
That's insane.
Scott (41:52):
Would you rather have Ben Griffin or Colin?
I fire my caddy every two weeks.
Morikawa Three years ago.
We all know the pick Right now.
Graham (42:04):
A year and a half ago.
We know the pick.
Scott (42:06):
Would you rather have and this is a tough one right now
would you rather have, brian Iwaggle my club 37 times Harmon
or Patrick?
Graham (42:15):
Stantley.
Well, I mean, I love how you'rebringing that up because you
know how I feel, but just forthe podcast sake, fuck Brian
Harmon, I'll take my chanceswith Cantley Dude.
I know, look.
Yeah, you said.
Look, this is Bethpage.
It's 78,000 fucking yards,mister, I can't hit it 300 off
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the tee.
Scott (42:43):
No, I don't want guess what.
Graham (42:43):
Yeah, he hits it straight and he puts the dimes
out of it.
I yeah.
And if it was a scramble orwell, no, they do best, or uh?
Alternate shot oh yeah, okay,yes, strategically and alternate
side, I could get away withthat.
But what happens on day threewhen you're playing individual
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matches?
Scott (43:08):
who cares you?
Fairway somebody to death.
I mean, let's just jump rightin the european team standings
as of last week.
Yeah, go ahead, just think oftheir top six.
And as I'm announcing this,remember who's not included Rory
Fleetwood, Big Bob Hatton, SeppStraka and Lowry.
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Okay, that doesn't include Rose.
That doesn't include LudwigSovlin, the guy that's dead to
me.
John Rahm's down there in thestandings at 20th.
So that's one, two, three.
Those four are definitely onthe team.
Oh, and let's don't forget, at22nd, Matt Fitzpatrick.
(43:52):
There's five captains fixedright there.
Graham (43:54):
Oh, matt Fitzpatrick, 100% is on the team.
Scott (43:58):
So who's the sixth?
Dietrich Rasmus Hohrgaard,Thomas Dietrich Aaron.
Graham (44:05):
Rye Dude Hohrgaard has been playing Consistent, and not
only that, he was one putt away.
Scott (44:15):
He was a putt yesterday on the 18th hole, away from
being paired up with his brotherFor the final round Of the Open
Championship.
What yeah, insane, insane, wow,yeah, his brother, nikolai, is
30th in the standings.
But I mean, we all know Rose,luda, avlin, brom and
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Fitzpatrick are on the team,without a doubt.
I'm low-key, worried about this.
Graham (44:50):
No, you're not.
You're more than low-key.
Don't lie to me, folks.
If you can see the look on hisface right now, I mean I don't
know yeah.
Dude, I really think that, andwhat I was saying earlier the
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home field advantage at Bethpagein New York is going to really
ignite the fire under Team USA.
Like I really do, like I saidfive minutes ago, we're kind of
top heavy, but the top heavyyeah, dude, our top heavy is how
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many of those players are inthe top 10?
Scott (45:37):
In the world.
Yeah, no, I mean Scotty,obviously number one.
Yeah, Roy, I mean Scottyobviously number one.
Yeah, Roy is number two.
And remember, the worldrankings are all bullshit
because of those guys that wentover and played the three rounds
.
Right, right, you know, but Idon't know.
Graham (45:57):
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
I'm just saying, like, I tellyou one thing the closer this
gets, the more infuriating it isto know that you're not going
to fucking be there with me,Because me and my boy are going
to be sitting right there in thestands right behind the first
tee box in 18th Green, rightthere and loving life.
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We're going to be getting liveupdates.
Scott (46:21):
I just I already told you , if rom doesn't come in the top
30, I was paying for your bailbecause yeah, you know, my 30
bet to win 70 is going to be alot cheaper than your bail in
long island, new york.
When you run out and cross bodyblock on rom and say why don't
(46:43):
you go to a goddamn bull run orsomething in spain, you asshat,
I mean just saying let's go.
Graham (46:55):
Just hey, man, I'm not trying to get banned from all
future events, bro, oh you'renot.
Scott (47:01):
Just don't leave a bald guy sticker anywhere on the best
page.
Graham (47:06):
I don't know about that, but yeah.
Scott (47:12):
Oh my God, I don't know.
I think the captain's pickshave to be announced before the
tour championship.
I believe We've got two regularseason events left the 3m and
then something in greensboro,north carolina, and then the
first round of the fedex cupplayoffs are in memphis, wow.
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The second round of the fedexis, that is, in, uh, maryland,
the bmw at caves valley.
Your boy may or may not be ableto get up there.
I've got a member at our club,his brother's the head pro there
.
Oh Jesus, yeah, but.
And then obviously the tourchampionship is where it is, but
(47:53):
you know, with and then it'sstressful times.
Graham (47:59):
They changed it this year.
I know we talked about it, butthey changed it this year.
I know we talked about it, butthey changed.
They're not doing the strokesadvantage again for the tour
championship right it's justregular.
Scott (48:09):
Yeah, it's just regular, but something's gonna change.
They haven't said what.
I mean, like we said this year,next year's oh, there's no
straight.
I mean, like said last year, asmuch as we both love Keegan, he
won the one event at CastlePines and then that was his only
win and then he can go win thetour championship and win.
(48:31):
Yeah, it's going to besomething.
Who knows what it's going to be?
Graham (48:36):
I mean there is some merit to the scoring system the
way they have it, because it'slike dude.
How can you be the player ofthe year if you just sneak in
for each event?
You know what I mean, right, Iagree.
Scott (48:51):
I agree.
Like, imagine Fowler goes out,wins FedEx in Memphis and he
finishes 65 to qualify for FedEx.
Then he wins.
Then he goes to the BMW topfive and then goes to a
championship and wins, and hewins the FedEx Cup playoffs.
I mean I'd be happy as shit.
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But, romano, you better beflying your boy somewhere,
because we going to party, Imean, and hopefully when we're
partying your boy ain't gettingrobbed for 800, and if that
ain't, a real.
(49:33):
If that ain't a real, it's gonnabe, and I'm sending it directly
to him got him, let's change itup real quick.
I mean real quick.
We're already 50 minutes intothis episode.
Training camp started this pastweek, started as first team to
report Because we obviously playin the Hall of Fame game.
(49:53):
You know why is that.
Graham (49:57):
Why's what I was throwing a shot, why you're
playing in the Hall of Fame game.
Scott (50:02):
Oh, because Antonio Gates wasn't a in the Hall of Fame
game.
Oh, because Antonio Gateswasn't a first ballot Hall of
Famer, because I guess everybodythat votes for that is blind,
dumb and retarded.
But that's just another.
You know Anyhow Mike Williamssigns with the Jets.
Last year Did he get traded toyou guys?
(50:22):
Yeah, Y'all traded for him,right?
Yeah, at the deadline, yeah.
And then signs with theChargers as a free agent.
Graham (50:31):
Dude, he caught a touchdown.
The first game, the first game,right, yeah, I think it was
against the Jets.
It might have been, I think itwas.
Scott (50:40):
And then he comes back, signs a one-year deal with the
Chargers.
Everybody's fired up because ofthe continuity between him and
Herbert.
He's a 50-50 ball guy theex-receiver and then starts camp
out on the PUP list and thenday two retires.
Weird, it is what it is.
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I'm sad because I like mikedubb, because you've seen it,
kellen has a glove from mikedubb that he gave him from a
game and my guy wears like sizefour extra large gloves.
It's insane.
You've seen it.
(51:20):
It's like my god.
If my guy's glove is that big,could you imagine never?
mind mom uh, finally, your boytj gets paid.
You know gonna be the highestdefensive player paid in the
(51:41):
league until Micah Parsons getspaid.
You know the scenario.
It's like oh, blah, blah, blah,blah, he's going to be the
highest, then he's going to bethe highest, yeah.
But Dude, what are the Cowboysdoing?
Why have they not signed hismother?
I, the Bengals, like Henderson,you're letting him run around
(52:05):
free.
I mean, your first round draftpick, you took 17-18 overall.
He ain't signed.
Yeah, you got Jamar Chase andHiggins, but remember, last year
you scored like 35 a game andgave up like 37 a game.
You know.
Graham (52:28):
What I'm going to say about Cincinnati, and it's just
this is off the top of my domeright now, is it?
I guess I got a question foryou as the owner of an
organization.
For you as an owner of anorganization, wouldn't you think
a goal for your organizationwould be to put the best team
(52:50):
out there to give you a chanceto win, and the ultimate goal
would be to win a Super Bowl?
Or are you just going to besomeone that says, hey, I got a
team, whether it be through thefamily or however, I got it, I
got the team and look, if we do,good, great.
If we don't, it is what it isand I'm just going to keep
trucking like I like.
(53:11):
I almost feel like there's nomotivation to win by the upper
upper management level well,you're talking to somebody
that's a fan of the Chargers.
Scott (53:23):
Dan Spanos is the owner.
Okay, you had Phillip Rivers,who was about as mobile as a
motherfucking giraffe and henever made a pick in the draft
for offensive linemen.
And how good did Phillip dorunning for his life, not being
(53:43):
an athletic guy, you know?
(53:48):
Yeah.
Scott (53:49):
Then Herbert gets drafted and you know obviously Harbaugh
and Joe Ortiz come in, and whatdo they do the first two years?
Graham (53:59):
O-line.
You got the biggest O-line inthe league.
Scott (54:03):
And somewhere Rivers is going.
Hey guys, remember me, you'vehit me on that, but that's where
Telesco, you know whatever,palmy T, whatever.
Graham (54:15):
No, I saw something earlier today.
The New Orleans Saints are theonly team in the NFL in which
their quarterback room has nowin in the NFL wow, wow, that's
(54:37):
a stat for you when I saw that Iwas like wait what?
Scott (54:42):
rewind.
Who's their quarterback room,Spencer Rattler.
A stat for you.
When I saw that, I was likewait what?
Alright, rewind.
Who's their quarterback room,Spencer Rattler.
The car retired.
Graham (54:49):
Yeah, and then Shuck or whatever the guy named as they
drafted.
Scott (54:54):
Oh, my boy TH is going to put more wins, wow, wow.
Graham (55:03):
Dying.
When I saw that I mean.
Scott (55:05):
I mean even my boy, mason Rudolph.
Yeah, that back in that draftyear I told Jerry he's going to
be the best one.
You know we've talked aboutthis on the show before.
I just got this screenshotbecause he's an idiot.
Speaking of which, jerry, yournumerology plays today sucked.
I'm glad I didn't send them toyou because they went one for
(55:30):
three.
Graham (55:32):
Oh, thank the Lord.
Scott (55:34):
Yeah, he sent them to me way too early and I knew you
were still balls deep in yourturtle in your bed.
Graham (55:44):
Oh my God, I know this is rough Dude.
I set my alarm this morning towatch it.
Got the alarm blaring.
I'm like uh, I hit the fuckingbutton, I turn over.
Scott (55:57):
I texted you and I'm like Fowler Never heard a word from
you.
Graham (56:02):
No, you texted me before my alarm Went off.
I set my alarm for 10, my time.
I was like, look, I'll catchthe last Five Holes, or whatever
.
To be honest, I didn't thinkthey were going to be done at 11
.
I thought they were going to bedone at like.
Scott (56:19):
I texted you at 10 30, 10 , 30 my time, so 7 30 your time,
fowler, 11.
I thought they were going to bedone at like.
I texted you at 10.30.
10.30 my time, so 7.30 yourtime, fowler.
Graham (56:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Of course.
You told me last night oh, getup by 9 am.
And I was like, yeah, 10o'clock should be fine, I hit
that button.
Scott (56:40):
It was over.
It was over, I'm aware of that.
Graham (56:41):
I hit my alarm and then 10 o'clock should be fine.
Right, hit that button, it wasover, it was over.
Yeah, I'm aware of that.
I hit my alarm and then I rollover and next thing I know I
wake back up and it's 11.30 andI was like son of a bitch.
Scott (56:53):
But anyhow, as we wrap this show up, I just gotta throw
something out there, because Iposted it on the bald guy's
Instagram last night.
The WNBA All-Star game was lastnight and, yes, I know I can
hear Graham in the backgroundgoing who?
And I'm just going to respondto it Heirs, dude, they came out
(57:21):
wearing t-shirts that said whatis it?
Pay us what you owe us, yeah,something like that.
Yeah, where is it?
Yeah, pay us what you owe us,dude, dude.
The league lost $50 million in2024.
(57:46):
And that's with Caitlin Clarkbeing the face of the league.
Graham (57:59):
You know, I really feel like if they're going to do
targeted media like that, theyshouldn't be provoking the
masses.
I really think their sloganshould be something to the
effect of let's go advertisers.
(58:21):
What else do we need to do?
Because we've already beatenthis topic to death.
The portion of pay that theyget is far greater than the NBA
players, even across all theother sports the women
percentage they get more of thepercentage of the pie.
The problem is is the peoplewatching?
The reason why the NBA makes somuch money is because of the TV
(58:44):
contracts, because they knowthe advertisers are paying the
money.
If you don't have peoplewatching the events, then
therefore advertisers do notwant to spend the money on said
networks to promote.
It's not the league's fault.
You need to tell the people hey, watch us and we'll make money.
(59:08):
They just haven't gotten thereyet.
And the problem is, when theydo watch, it's to watch one
person, that's it.
I hate to say it that way, butit's just like they're watching
the one person.
If there was more CaitlinClarks out there, then it would
be a different story, but that'snot the case.
(59:29):
And I'm not saying there's notgood players in the WNBA.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that you can'tblame the league for the issue
in which is Boring.
You need I mean.
Scott (59:51):
my question is I'm just going to throw this out there.
Stats came out today for allthe All-Star games this year
Mm-hmm, okay, major LeagueBaseball All-Star game draws 7.2
million viewers, as most watchall-star event in sports.
I mean 4.6 million people watchthe NBA all-star game.
Graham (01:00:14):
2025, pro Bowl same thing which that's actually
pretty good considering.
Scott (01:00:21):
They didn't even say what the WNBA was Same, thing, which
that's actually pretty goodconsidering.
Graham (01:00:25):
They didn't even say what the.
WNBA was yeah, because KaitlynClark didn't play in the game.
She's been hurt.
So it's like, dude, I mean, ifwe're going to pull the curtain
back, kind of like how ShaneGillis did at the ESPY Awards, I
mean, let's be real, what worksworks.
(01:00:46):
What doesn't work doesn't work.
If people are following oneperson, it's just like, oh well,
we want this, we want this.
It's not what you have to do.
This is business.
You have to show value.
If you don't show value valueeven though you feel like you're
deserving of it and I'm notsaying that they're not
(01:01:07):
deserving of it, I'm not sayingthat I'm just saying that you
can't complain that you don'tmake enough money if you can't
convince people to watch you youain't wrong, and as we up
tonight, it's that time of theepisode.
(01:01:22):
Let's go.
Scott (01:01:26):
For the hot chick of the week, and Graham and I were back
and forth last night.
Back and forth.
We couldn't figure out who itwas going to be.
And then I finally figured outwho it was going to be.
Graham (01:01:44):
Who you sent last night.
Scott (01:01:46):
Yeah, I sent you a screenshot and an Instagram post
.
Yeah, and that's none otherthan an NFL reporter.
Graham (01:01:56):
Oh, I mean, if you didn't know what you thought I
was what I thought you weregoing for the country music
singer, the country music singer.
Yeah.
Scott (01:02:11):
Well, carly Pierce is always up there.
Yeah, I mean, just like AmandaBalyonis, she doesn't need to be
mentioned.
We're gonna go straight MelissaStark, let's go.
I mean, she doesn't need to bementioned, we're going to go
straight Melissa Stark, let's go.
I mean, what did I?
I looked her up last night.
What did I say?
She was 52?
Yeah, I believe I think she'sgot a twin 18-year-old girl that
(01:02:34):
are also the Smooches, so sheis our hot chick of the week.
Graham (01:02:38):
I mean it's not very often we have someone 50-plus as
the hot chick of the week.
I mean it's not very often wehave someone 50 plus as the hot
chick of the week.
Let's get a little golf clapfor her folks, a little golf
clap.
Scott (01:02:49):
That's a different kind of clap than I'd like to hear,
but anyhow, as we wrap uptonight, I hope y'all loved the
episode.
Fedex Cup playoff right aroundthe corner training camp
Graham's losing his shit rightnow laughing.
That could have been thefunniest thing I've ever said on
this show.
(01:03:09):
I was trying to play it offGraham way to blow that.
Love you all and we'll see younext week.
Graham (01:03:19):
Scott, it's been a pleasure.
I'm glad we were able to getback.
Scott, it's been a pleasure,you know, I'm glad we were able
to get back to it.
Do another episode.
I can't believe you couldn'tplay that off better than that,
bro.
When you drop fucking haymakerslike that, I, dude, you knocked
me out.
I didn't know what to say rightthere.
I was speechless, and that'swhy I'm going to knock you out.
Scott (01:03:41):
Mama said knock, and that's why I'm gonna knock you
out.
Mama said knock you out.
Little hello, let's go as weleave.
Dude, little what's?
Scotty sheffield's son, namedbennett I think yeah.
Yeah, dude, when scotty was onthe green with the trophy and
his son was running up you knowthe green and he dropped and
(01:04:01):
fell, I saw a meme that was likeoh, daniel Jones has got the
ball and falls on the 20.
Thought I was going to die, butanyhow, graham, get us out of
here.
Graham (01:04:14):
Scott, it's always a pleasure doing the podcast with
you, especially when you dropbombs like that.
And hey, as the best homiealways says, Booba.
Scott (01:04:23):
Good night friends.
Good night, major championshipsin 2025.
Good night, JomRom.
You're officially dead to me.
Have fun at the bowl races andI hope you get your ass whooped
at Beth Page, especially whenGraham cross-body blocks you.
Love you all.
Good night.
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