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April 26, 2025 • 36 mins

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Recorded April 24th, 2025

When NFL Draft night arrives, nothing matters more to diehard fans than seeing their team make the right pick. In this raw, unfiltered reaction episode, we ride the emotional rollercoaster of the first round in real-time as we anxiously await the Pittsburgh Steelers (pick #20) and Los Angeles Chargers (pick #21) selections.

The tension builds with each passing pick as we debate potential scenarios, analyze team needs, and react to surprising early selections like Jacksonville trading up for Travis Hunter and the Cowboys taking interior lineman Tyler Booker at 12. All while trying to keep track of an NHL playoff game happening simultaneously!

For months, speculation swirled that Pittsburgh might select Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders or another signal-caller, creating genuine anxiety for Steelers fans wanting defensive help instead. Meanwhile, Chargers supporters wondered which direction new coach Jim Harbaugh would take with his first draft pick. The countdown to these back-to-back selections creates genuine drama you can feel through your headphones.

The payoff comes in authentic, unscripted reactions when the picks are finally announced - from sheer relief to excitement to immediate analysis of how these selections fit into each team's plans. We explore what these choices mean for both franchises' futures and speculate about day two possibilities with several highly-rated prospects still available.

Join us for this special draft episode that captures the essence of why we love sports - those high-stakes moments where hope, knowledge, and emotion collide. And remember, as we rightfully acknowledge: there are only 32 GMs and coaches in the world for a reason, so maybe we should trust their process over our amateur analysis!

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Scott (00:07):
welcome to another episode of the bald guys on the
bench podcast, with your hostsgraham cohen and scott wasco
what's up everyone and welcometo a oh my god, scott Graham
restressed episode of the baldguys on the bench.

(00:27):
Not only are we stressed, it'sdraft night, it's Thursday,
first rounds.
Going as we come on air, it'spick 19.
My Vegas Knights are losing,going into the second period two
to one.
We're watching all these studsget picked.
Graham, we don't have much haircombined, bro, but at the end

(00:49):
of tonight we might have alittle less.
But anyhow, what's cracking bro?

Graham (00:55):
I mean it's not this bad , but your boy's been on suicide
watch the last hour.

Scott (01:00):
It seems like oh, just wait until the next 15 minutes
when y'all take shed door.
Oh man, anyhow can we get thisgoing?

Graham (01:11):
we need a drink I'm thirsty, let's get it going.
Let's grab one crack, onebrother, come on and folks.

Scott (01:17):
Normally we're a little more organized going into a show
.
Tonight there are absolutelyzero notes.
The main thing, grant and Igrant and I said grant, audrey,
you're welcome.
Uh, gram and I want toaccomplish tonight is live
reactions from his team's draftand my team's draft.
We were trying to get rob, whowe mentioned on the episodes on

(01:39):
tonight because you know, nomatter who the Chargers take,
he's going to bitch about it andI wanted his reaction too.
But you know tonight wasTrevor's senior night for high
school baseball.
Totally get it, family bro.
So, graham, it's pick 19.
Tampa's on the clock.

(02:00):
Then we got the Broncos, thenwe got the Steelers, then we got
the Bolts.
Fireworks early in the draftwhen Whatchamadoogle, they were
talking about it, jacksonvillewas talking to the Browns about
moving up.
Then it happens.

Graham (02:19):
You know, there's been so much chatter going on these
last couple days, the past weeks, that it's almost like what's
smoke and mirrors, what's real,what's not, and, to be honest, I
really did not think the Brownswere going to trade out but to
get what they got.

(02:40):
I'm not.

Scott (02:46):
And the guy they drafted for Jacksonville moving up three
spots.
They get Mason Graham.
Pair him with that freakGarrett.
Yeah, the Browns won the draftso far.
Yeah, I mean, but they're inthe same situation as you guys.

(03:07):
They got flacco as theirquarterback.

Graham (03:09):
You got mason rudolph uh , they also got kenny pickett.

Scott (03:13):
You know former first rounder I know, I just had to I
forget the rest of the words ofthat song because I would have
just gone straight with thatright there.

Graham (03:29):
I mean, look, they did what I didn't think they were
going to do.
I thought for sure they weregoing to take Travis Hunter.
I mean, the Browns, they made agreat play.
I can't knock them.
They did the right thing.
The Browns didn't Brownthemselves Like it's almost like
what.

Scott (03:48):
Yeah, really, don't forget.
I mean they got the second pickin the second round.
Yeah, okay, and the Jags firstround pick next year, which you
know that's going to be top 15.
Exactly, I mean, that's a lock.
Tampa's pick is in.
I hate not being able to hearit, but whatever, I know I feel

(04:12):
you.
I mean Jacksonville.
They got some stud widereceivers Adding.
Him was a homeboy.
They took in the first roundlast year Brian Thomas Jr.
Hey, trevor Lawrence,pressure's on bro.
They got your weapons.

Graham (04:31):
I mean, is it still pressure when they already paid
him the contract?
I mean he already got his firstone, I mean he could still get
another one, but it's just likehe aight.

Scott (04:40):
Pressure's on dude.

Graham (04:41):
Oh, I'm not disputing that one bit, I mean all eyes
are on him.

Scott (04:46):
Remember that quarterback named Russell Wilson that
signed that contract and thengot cut?

Graham (04:53):
Yeah, but that was after his second or third contract.
This was only homeboys first.
So I mean tomato, tomato, I getit.
No real other surprises to me.

Scott (05:06):
I mean abdul carter.
Three, yeah, yeah, big surprise, tyler booker into your
offensive lineman cowboys, takeit what?
12 yes, well, I was kind of thetop 10 first not saying that
the dude's not stud right, but alot of people had him maybe

(05:28):
fallen late first, maybe intothe second and.
But then you listen to a lot ofguys and they say the whole
reason the tackle was drafted inthe first round last year from
bama was because of Tyler Booker.
That's how good he was.
Yeah, here they take it.
Wow.

Announcer (05:48):
Wow.

Scott (05:51):
I was low-key, hoping he dropped to the Chargers Just.

Announcer (05:57):
It would have been a move.

Graham (05:59):
I mean, they got wide receivers though.

Scott (06:00):
Mark my words and I know if we went back and listened to
the episodes from two years agowhen Ohio State opened up the
season, I think against NotreDame, and Ibuka was dominating
the game and I said he is betterthan homeboy.
That got taken by the Cardinalslast year.

Graham (06:21):
Marvin Harrison yeah, the highest rated wide receiver
ever to come out.
Yeah, how did he do last year?
Well, harrison, yeah, thehighest rated wide receiver ever
to come out.

Scott (06:25):
Yeah, how did he do last year?

Graham (06:28):
Well, I mean, no, he ain't him bro, he ain't him Bro.
You put Marvin Harrison Jr onthe Chargers, you put him on the
Bills, you put him on any teamthat.

Announcer (06:41):
How about?

Graham (06:41):
this you could have put Marvin Harrison on Tampa right
now.
Baker Mayfield would have had aday with him.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just like when you go to ateam that you're picking fourth
, you got multiple holes to fill.

Scott (06:58):
Dude, I think the Broncos are going to take the running
back from Carolina.

Graham (07:05):
Hampton, I mean.

Scott (07:09):
I think it's going to happen.
Here's four minutes and 18seconds away from being on the
clock.
Best case scenario.
Who are you picking right now,Steelers?

Graham (07:22):
I'm looking at best available.
I would take Will Johnson in aheartbeat.

Scott (07:26):
Doug Corner.

Graham (07:28):
We need that yeah.

Scott (07:32):
Get young on defense.
I know, especially at thatposition, that is way more
important in the modern age offootball than it used to be.
I'm not saying it wasn'timportant.
What is the league?
It's than it used to be.
Not saying it wasn't important,but what is the league?

Graham (07:45):
It's a past league Right , I mean, I wanted one of the
stud defensive tackles.
Grant went a lot earlier than Ithought.
13.
Way earlier.

Scott (07:57):
There's still so many defensive line studs out there,
but you're going to take primetime.
I'm sorry, graham, this isgoing to be the second time I
know.

Graham (08:11):
But, dude, we have players that you need to win now
.
Shador is not winning.
Now we're going to sign old manRodgers.

Scott (08:18):
You're going to draft Shador and then draft.
No, you mean draft, and thensign yeah, and then sign Rodgers
.

Graham (08:25):
Yeah, I would rather get Will Johnson do the one year
with Rodgers, call it whateverdraft, a quarterback next year,
or still take Will Johnson andthen not take Shador, and you
could still get Howard late, youcould still get the kid from
Louisville, you could still getMilrose, maybe in the third you

(08:48):
could get.

Scott (08:49):
I mean Dude, right now you're on the clock.
In less than three minutesYou're going to take a
quarterback.
Are you taking Dyer or are youtaking Sanders?

Graham (09:01):
All the Pittsburgh beat writers are saying Tomlin loves
Shador.

Scott (09:06):
What is that?
Smoking mirrors.

Graham (09:09):
I'm hoping Take Will Johnson.
Please Take the number onecorner.

Scott (09:15):
You're taking Dart.

Graham (09:18):
Ugh don't.

Scott (09:20):
And if you don't, I hope the Giants call the Chargers
right now to trade up and getDart.
I mean, the Giants and Ole Misshave a little bit of a
connection, aka two Super Bowls,Eli Would make sense, even
though they have the other ones.
But I don't know.
I don't know.

(09:40):
Here we go, dude Broncos, takea punter or a kicker or
something like that.

Graham (09:46):
You dumbass they're taking the full clock.
They got a minute and 25 left.

Scott (09:51):
They're trading.

Graham (09:52):
They'd have to trade somewhere in the beginning of
the second if they want to getHampton, or they'll just wait
and they can get either of theguys from Ohio State.

Scott (10:03):
Yeah, that stud tackle is still out there from Ohio State
.
Yeah, that stud tackle is stillout there from Ohio State.

Graham (10:09):
Jeez, the offensive tackle.
Yeah or Devent Offensive tackle.

Scott (10:14):
Can we?
Please do this.

Graham (10:17):
I mean.

Scott (10:19):
Man, what you got saying, bro.
What are you saying what yougoing to do, speaking of which,
I'm just thinking about this,how good is the wide receiver
room in Tampa for Baker, mikeEvans, godwin and now Ibuka I

(10:39):
guess that's one of our keepersin fantasy for six bucks or
something like that?
Yeah, if you like targets.
And what's the second-yearrunning back's name?
Bucky Irving?
Yeah, yeah.

Graham (10:54):
Oh man I mean the kid from South Carolina is still
available.

Scott (10:57):
The safety right, yeah yeah, matthew Gold, nick
Amanowari, or however youpronounce his name, hampton,
please, is still available.

Graham (11:00):
The safety right.
Yeah, matthew Goldman, dickAmanowari, or however you
pronounce his name.

Scott (11:04):
Hanton, please no Hanton.

Graham (11:08):
Dude, I would love.

Scott (11:11):
Shador Sanders.

Graham (11:13):
Will you shut up with that right now, dude?
Oh, there you go.
Derek Harmon is still available.
Derek Harmon.

Scott (11:23):
Graham.
There you go.
Derek Harmon's still available.
Derek Harmon Graham, stoplooking past Shador and Dart
please.

Graham (11:28):
I told you I don't want a quarterback in the first for
four months straight.

Scott (11:32):
I know and I told you for four months straight.

Announcer (11:36):
We're only doing this podcast because this is going
to be a Graham meltdown.

Graham (11:38):
I know this, I hope, I hope, oh, because this is going
to be a grand meltdown, I knowthis, I hope.
I hope.
Oh, it's going to happen.

Scott (11:47):
I'm going to Broncos are either taking Golden or Hampton.
Come on, dude, the pick's beenin for 10 minutes.
God dang NFL is trying to makethat cash.

Graham (11:57):
Come on, come on, derek Harmon to Pittsburgh, come on.

Scott (12:02):
Oh pick again.
Yeah, you've been saying thatfor, oh my God, longer than
you've been on the goddamn clock.
The Chargers are going to takeit oh my God, oh, come on
Pittsburgh.

Graham (12:13):
And the worst part is this is D-line that says is
there a third need?
No it's their first.
We're signing Rodgers bro.

Scott (12:22):
No trade in front of the Steelers.
The.

Graham (12:27):
Broncos stay at pick 20.
Come on.

Announcer (12:34):
Who let's?

Graham (12:34):
go?
Come on, why are they lettingsome kids come up there and
speak for their team?
How do they decide what's goingon right now?
Come on, the Denver Broncosselect Punter.

Scott (12:52):
From the eastern shore of the Blind and Deaf College,
from North Carolina Wow.
That is a stud.
Wow, corner, pairing him upwith.
What's his name?

Graham (13:05):
Oh, is he any good Wow.

Scott (13:09):
Cornerback from Texas, jody Barron.
Oh man, and just like that,folks.
Steel City is on the clock.
Oh man.

Graham (13:22):
Lord Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior, please, I don't ask
for a lot.
I really don't.

Scott (13:31):
This is going to be great .
You're not going to take aquarterback.
I've just been bullshittingwith you the whole time.
No, you're not taking aquarterback.

Graham (13:40):
Take.
Oh, they got to take the, thetackle from oregon.
They got to.
It's either him or your guyfrom michigan, will, johnson oh?

Scott (13:51):
man, I can't even look.
This is gonna be amazing live.
I'm sorry, have Graham willedit some of the silence out,
but we're like.

Graham (14:03):
Oh, a hundred percent.
Have I not been saying D tacklefor four months now?

Scott (14:08):
No, maybe six.

Graham (14:10):
Okay, thank you.
Like Pittsburgh couldn't stop anosebleed.

Scott (14:14):
And have I not been saying you need to get young at
quarterback?
I mean, even if you sign AaronRogers, this isn't the draft.
The draft of quarterback.

Graham (14:21):
I mean, even if you sign Aaron Rogers, granted this
isn't.

Scott (14:22):
This isn't the draft.
The draft of quarterback.

Graham (14:24):
That's my point.
But yeah, let him sit behindRogers.
Okay, I get that, but that'snot what your boys feel.

Scott (14:33):
That's a low key, amazing pick for the donkeys, by the
way.

Graham (14:38):
Oh, it is.

Scott (14:40):
Hampton's not off the Charters' radar.
Now Y'all ain't taking him.

Graham (14:45):
No, but would you take him at that?
Yeah, with your other needs.

Scott (14:52):
Yeah, yeah.
Now you pair him with Nazi.
You got Hampton under controlfor five minimum years.
You got A and B.
It's hardball football.
You wear the shit out of thedefense by running the shit out
of it by two monsters Accordingto.

Announcer (15:11):
Kick his in, should be worse.

Scott (15:12):
Don't blow it, dude.
Don't blow the reaction.
My hands are free.
I'm not looking at my phonelike you, you jackass.

Graham (15:20):
I'm not looking.
Oh, my god.
I'm not looking at my phonelike you, you jackass.
I'm not looking.
Oh, oh, my god, I'm kidding Ineed to get my tissues ready.
Hold on.

Scott (15:29):
Jackson Dart is not on the phone.
What the?

Graham (15:33):
fuck, I almost wish I was listening to their reactions
to see what these commentatorsare.
Oh, they're definitely takingus to the door.
They're definitely taking us tothe door.
No, we are not.
We are taking tackle corner,either or this is going to be
amazing.
Preferably tackle Dude if theytake hand.
I swear to God.

Scott (15:54):
I can see it being a stealer thing.

Graham (15:55):
They better not, they better not.
There's so many other goodrunning backs.

Scott (16:00):
There are.

Graham (16:01):
Because you know people are still flirting with
Pittsburgh trading.
See, yeah, their needsT-tackles.
The first thing pops up Come on, take my boy for more, let's go
.
Pick is in Please, lord, please.

Scott (16:16):
Second period started.
Come on, Knights.

Graham (16:19):
Please Lord, please, please, please, please.
From the University of Colorado.
I've been asking for six monthsfor a stud.
Defensive tackle.

Scott (16:32):
Oh.

Graham (16:32):
God.

Scott (16:34):
Moment of truth.

Graham (16:35):
Don't say it.
Say what I want.
Say what I want, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes.
What I want, yes.

Scott (16:41):
Yes.

Graham (16:41):
Yes, wow, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Scott (16:45):
Wow, yes.

Announcer (16:47):
Yes.

Graham (16:50):
Wow, I can.

Scott (16:55):
I feel like I lost a few pounds right there.

Graham (16:57):
I can you know that weight off my chest is gone.

Scott (17:00):
Charter's about to take Will Johnson.

Graham (17:01):
You can breathe.
I lost a few pounds right there.

Scott (17:02):
I can you know that weight off my chest is gone.
Oh, charter's about to takeWill Johnson.

Graham (17:06):
Which would be perfect.

Scott (17:09):
Reunion with his defensive coordinator and his
head coach.

Graham (17:14):
Yeah, why is it always?
People just seem to fall to youin the Charters.

Announcer (17:18):
Dude, I love it.

Graham (17:20):
Dude the last four years , everyone has fallen to you
Literally.

Scott (17:25):
I'm texting Rob right now on the clock.
Oh my God, wow, we got a lot ofpeople we can take right here.
Homeboy from Tennessee, pierceEdge, yeah.

Graham (17:38):
Yeah.
Will Johnson is locking up,it's either I mean 100% that.

Scott (17:45):
Oh man, Wow, yeah, Beating the bookie just tweeted
wow, just what the Steelersneeded more defense.

Graham (17:56):
Beating the bookie.
Doesn't know if football stuffare inflated.
I finally responded so happy inthe thread they're like if
football stuffs are inflated.
I finally responded so happy inthe thread they're like oh,
he's alive.

Scott (18:05):
Come on, dude, should we go to the second round?

Announcer (18:11):
Yes.

Graham (18:13):
Or someone could jump into the first.

Scott (18:16):
Come on, Bolt.

Graham (18:19):
Yeah, dude, you have to take.
Yeah, dude, you have to take.
Yeah, it has to happen.
I would be shocked.
Yeah, I mean dude on the bigboard.
Will Johnson is like a top 10player, overall player.

Announcer (18:35):
Yeah.

Graham (18:35):
I know I mean dude.
Matthew Golden is still there.
There's the wide receiver fromMissouri, the Luther Burden III,
is there.

Scott (18:45):
You need to say something in the text or I'd be like wow,
billy, that's the most positivething I've ever heard you say
about the Steelers.
I mean, it's spot on.

Graham (18:55):
Would have rather had a corner.
But yeah, Will Johnson, yeah, Iwould have been happy with that
too, but we can't stop the run.

Scott (19:03):
Here we go.
Rob's texting me.
I'm going to call him.
You think I can call him.

Graham (19:08):
You could, but I don't think it will sound very good I
know.

Scott (19:12):
He said I said y'all took a defensive tackle from Oregon.
He said is Graham happy?
I was like ecstatic.

Graham (19:32):
I put it in the thread Dude if you guys don't take Will
Johnson, I will be shocked,Especially with how well the
corners you guys drafted in thefourth and fifth round last year
.

Scott (19:44):
I said we're about to take Will Johnson quarterback
from Michigan.
He goes.
Who?
Who the hell is Colton?
He's asking me if Colton'sstill on the board.
Loveland, colston, loveland.
We got three minutes.
I don't know they're using allthat clock.
We got three minutes.
I don't know Trade.

Graham (20:02):
They're using all that clock.

Scott (20:05):
Yeah, I said Loveland, he goes.
Yes, I'm like I told you yougot picked by the Bears?

Graham (20:09):
Yeah, but how Ten?

Scott (20:12):
Well, he's like what's his nuts?

Graham (20:14):
Wake up, Rob Wake up.

Scott (20:17):
Wow, come on, trade back.
I know Right now, dude, theGiants are going.
We need a young kid.
Charters are about to flee some.
Let's go.

Graham (20:35):
It's either Hampton, the wide receiver from Texas, or
Will Johnson, Derek Harmon.

Scott (20:39):
Baby hey, two straight years of first round offensive
and defensive line from Oregon.
We got 10 picks.

Graham (20:47):
Then why would you need to trade for more picks?

Scott (20:48):
Because the second round are all players that could have
been drafted in the first roundAfter pick 15.
Here we go, baby Will Johnson.

Graham (20:56):
No, I get it, I get it.

Scott (20:58):
University of Michigan, I get it.
Just go ahead and say it.
They're on the phone, I get it.
University of Michigan, I getit, I get it.
Come on, just go ahead and sayit.
They're on the phone, bro.
They're on the phone.
Ain't nobody cheering?

Graham (21:06):
Dude if Harbaugh doesn't pick his guy.

Scott (21:09):
Look at Ortiz.

Graham (21:13):
Oh man, something's yeah okay, that's Shador, what you
mean Okay, you're stupid, that'swhat I'm looking at on my
screen.
Oh no, what's stupid would beif Harbaugh doesn't pick his guy
?
It's gotta be Will Johnson.

(21:34):
Come on, rogers, pick up thepen.
It's gotta be.
I almost want to go back justto hear this commentary now.
It's like what was it afterpick 10 that they went to the
college guys?
Now it's like they started likethe ESPN crew started with the
original.

Announcer (21:47):
Well, Schefter's always on the side.
It was like Schefter and Buggerand all those guys.
They have two different sets.
They have the game day set andthey have their ESPN set.

Scott (21:57):
Here we go.

Graham (21:58):
Dude, are they going to make a pick or are they going to
lose it?

Scott (22:00):
Trade, it's a trade it doesn't say pick is in.
Oh my God, the pick is in.

Graham (22:10):
Oh my God, the pick is in Right at the end.

Scott (22:15):
Oh man Come on Not going to be mad regardless, all right,
whatever, whoever we pick.
No, I'm not going to be madregardless, all right, whatever,
whoever we pick no, I'm notgonna be all great options.
I would, just so he doesn't goto anyone else I want you to
take johnson if he fell to behonest green bay board with davy
fucking right when thecommissioner walks to the stage.

(22:39):
I'm gonna turn the volume up soI can hear this you could have
done so it's okay for you, oh,okay.
Come on, nights on a power play, come on, this is like this
just sucks.
The only thing that could havemade this worse is if the Mets
were playing.
But you know what?
The Mets aren't playing folks.
The Mets aren't playing Folks.

Graham (23:02):
The Mets aren't playing because we're the best team in
baseball right now.
Had to get that in at somepoint.
Come on, oh folks, if you couldsee Scott right now.
He's got the draft on the TV.
He's got the Knights on thelaptop.
He's got two remotes in eachhand.
He's looking over here.
He's trying to do that.
It is Sports Central right now.

Scott (23:22):
And May 14th schedule release.
They said that tonight let's go.

Graham (23:27):
I'm taking that day off.
That's actually my mom'sbirthday.

Scott (23:29):
All right, we're hugging and cheering.
Draft pick is in.
Here we go Please, baby Jesus.

Graham (23:37):
Come on Wow.

Scott (23:41):
Hampton Wow, hampton Wow.

Graham (23:45):
They took him Wow, wow.

Scott (23:48):
My phone's blown out, wow .
Hey, it's Harbaugh ball, dude,wow.

Graham (23:57):
The only thing that sucks about that Najee's fantasy
value just went down a littlebit no-transcript because Harris
was a one-year deal, just likeDobbins last year.

Scott (24:11):
Yeah, wow, dude, the Packers are sitting here going.
Thank you, hey.

Graham (24:20):
I mean, all right, the Band-Aid is finally ripped off.
First reaction how are youfeeling?

Scott (24:25):
For offense.
We signed the brick wall fromthe Eagles.
We might have drafted the bestright tackle in the game in the
first round last year.
You add Najee to your backfieldand you add this monster.
I could go all night.
I told you, no matter who wepicked, I wasn't going to be mad

(24:50):
and I've been loving this dudeforever.
I mean, okay, the year beforelast you could blame it on Drake
, may you know, a first-roundpick, I think number three
overall, because he was a studand Hampton was in his backfield
.
Well, guess what?
They had a dude starting forthe first time and Hampton

(25:11):
dominated.
What?

Graham (25:13):
Oh my God, oh my God Hold on.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I don't want to callthis a Kix.
Rocks moment.
But did you see the text?
Read Grammar Police.
You're getting called out rightnow, bro.
This dude said let me back up.

(25:35):
If we take sanders in the third, I'll be a saints and browns
fan.
Now, bro, make up your mind.
You've been a stealer fan.
You bought a rental propertydown in New Orleans so you had a
New Orleans residency for five,eight, however long, many years

(25:57):
.
That was All right, I get it.
You show some support.
You know Steelers was your mainteam, but you know you had your
little side piece with theSaints.
Okay, that's fine.
But then you're going tothreaten not being a Steeler fan
, or at least being a Saintsfirst, if they take Shador and
then we don't.
We take a stud defensive tackleand now you're going to come
out with this Bularkey.

(26:18):
Like bro, do you even watchfootball?
Like I can't.

Scott (26:33):
Anyhow, Graham, crazy night, First round of the NFL
draft.
You were stressing, I wasstressing, and I didn't even
care who we took.
You know, I just wanted to, youknow, make the team better.
And Ortiz and Harbaugh, I trustEverybody out there talking

(26:57):
shit, shut up.
I mean.
Whatever it is what it is.
That's why there's only what?
32 GMs in the world and 32 headcoaches in the world, and 32
head coaches, that's 64 peopleout of this world that are a

(27:17):
whole lot more smarter with thegame of football than us.
So that's the process.
Let's go, dude, let's go.
I mean there's still studsavailable, dude, Will Johnson,
top 10 prospects still available.
I mean there's still studsavailable, dude, Will Johnson,
top 10 prospect still available.
I mean tight ends galorerunning backs, Hendrickson from

(27:37):
Ohio State there's people outthere.

Graham (27:40):
Both of the running backs from.

Scott (27:42):
Ohio State.
It is what it is, and guess whoelse is still?

Graham (27:45):
out there.
There's plenty of talent outthere, shador.

Scott (27:48):
Hmm, dude, oh my, there's plenty of talent out there,
shador.

Graham (27:51):
Dude.
Oh my, I would say how fittingit would be for Cleveland to
draft him.
But I'll say this For thestruggles that the Browns have
had consistently over thedecades the quarterback position

(28:13):
.
If Shador is the reason thatthey turn it around, I swear to
God, there's just some things inlife that just you can't
explain and that could be asituation where it's just like
the chips just somehow fall outof the way.
You're just like what.

Scott (28:36):
Dude, I was listening to that podcast.
I was talking about earlier theKelsey brothers and they had
Joe Thomas on.
They asked Joe Thomas, how manyquarterbacks did you play left
tackle for?
Don't quote me on the number,but it was like in the twenties.
He said at one point yeah, theysigned the dude the week before

(28:56):
.
Okay, the first string wentdown, second string went down,
and we're on a game winningdrive and he can tell everybody
in the huddles, all stressed,and he goes all right, I'm going
to make a joke.
And he looks at the dude and hegoes hi, rest.
And he goes all right, I'mgonna make a joke.
And he looks at the dude and hegoes hi, my name is joe thomas,
I'm the left tackle for thecleveland browns in the huddle
on a game-winning drive.
To some quarterback you saideverybody loses it.

(29:19):
Dude, they've had a million.

Graham (29:23):
baker manziel dude, and the craziest part is yeah.
Obviously the saying is true,hindsight is 20-20.
The Browns that year had thefirst overall and the fourth
overall.
That was also the same yearthat Josh Allen was taken.
Could you imagine If they wouldhave just zigged Instead of

(29:47):
zagged?

Scott (29:49):
Didn't they take?
They took Baker at one and thenthe corner at four, I think.
Right, yeah, yeah, and had andhad weapons for Baker.
Granted, he's gotten betterwith better with age.
Well, I don't know, the Brownsstill didn't have anything for
him to do.
Oh, a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
Yeah, I don't know.

Graham (30:09):
The Browns still didn't have anything for him to do.
Oh, 100%, yeah, I mean, I getit.
I just like I've said on thispodcast many a times, many a
times, the Browns are the Brownsand they do what they do.
So you know, there's 31 otherteams that got choices to make.

(30:30):
Tomorrow.
Day two, we got the secondround and third round.
Unfortunately, the Steelers, asof right now, only have a third
round pick.
We'll see if that changes, whoknows?
All I'll say is this If they doget a second round, I hope it's
not by trading George Pickens,unless there's a certain someone
that they do get a sick around.

(30:50):
I hope it's not by tradingGeorge Pickens, unless there's a
certain someone that they canget.
I know the Steelers are high onhaving two wide receivers.
I get that because, look, we'renot franchising them, we're not
giving them his fifth-yearoption, so we're not going to
pay him Anything.
Get something for him.

(31:13):
But we still need another widereceiver.
Like, what I don't want is youtrade pickings to get a rookie
wide receiver.
I don't want that.
I'd rather have pickings forthe year.
To be honest, if you're gonnado this, I'd rather have it be
like two years ago, where wegave away trade, uh, claypool,
and got the first pick in thesecond round or the second pick
in the second round in that typeof situation, then that's where

(31:35):
we could get you know.

Scott (31:37):
Hey, nobody knows how it's going to pan out.
You know you can't, you can't.
I love how all these so-calledexperts give every team a rating
or a grade a day after what'syour first round pick grade.
Dude, let's give it three orfour years.

(31:58):
You can't grade a draft afterone year.

Graham (32:05):
Oh, so it's kind of like how it is when they give draft
grades after it's over, like,bro, every draft, not every
draft, but a lot of the draftsthat knock on wood, I'm 85% to
at least at minimum make theplayoffs right.

(32:26):
But even within that, oh that'sa C plus or a B plus.
I'm like, just because I tookguys not at the point in time
that you wanted me to take them,it doesn't mean I had a bad
draft.
Like it's all strategy.
So, whether it's fantasy orreal football, like things
happen for a reason.
You got to play to win the game.
These guys know what they'redoing.

(32:48):
Well, I wouldn't say a selectfew, but a majority of them do.
And then there's a few of themthat are like hello, hello yeah
exactly.

Scott (32:56):
Thanks, tom, for drafting Quentin Johnson.
We could have taken Zay,flowers or Addison, or what's
the Titans name for the Lions?
Oh yeah, he's pretty god danggood.

Graham (33:08):
Or or youid, or you know me, or Graham, or me or you
wait, hold on, hold, on hold on,back up, back up, back up, you
really would rather take DaltonKincaid over Washington.
I'm only saying that, folks,because if you've heard our

(33:32):
podcast over the last year, anda half and us with him in
fantasy, you would know what wesaid about that guy, even though
he has the talent.
He has the talent.

Scott (33:44):
First two years.
It's not Kincaid's fault JoshAllen's the best tight end
playing quarterback in theleague and won't look at him.
And won't look at him andtarget him oh no, no.

Graham (33:56):
No, yeah, they weren't.
Okay, that's my point.
They weren't throwing on theball, big difference.
But hey, I'm excited.
I'm so happy we didn't takeShador, and I'm not saying
that's a knock on Shador, I justwanted the tackle.
We got who we wanted.
I'm excited, I'm so happy wedidn't take Shador, and I'm not
saying that's a knock on Shador,I just wanted the D tackle.
We got who we wanted.
I'm super stoked.
I'm happy for the Chargers.
Hampton's a great player.

(34:18):
It's good for what Harbaughwants to do.
I'm happy about that.
I'm happy for the both of usand I'm very curious to see what
happens the next two days.

Scott (34:26):
I'm very curious what happens in the next two minutes
with Vegas on a power play thathit the post that did not go in
the net.
Empty netter.
Anyhow, folks, there's no heartattack dude.

Graham (34:38):
Folks before Scott has a heart attack, let's get out of
here.

Scott (34:41):
Folks, I hope you enjoyed the episode.
Graham's got a lot of editingto do because there was a lot of
bullshit, but you know it's theNFL draft, let's go.
We want to do it live.
Graham, you're happy, I'm happy, let's go.
It's the beginning of the NFL.
Get us out of here, brother.

Graham (35:03):
The start of the 2025 year of the NFL is going quite
nice for both of us and I'm veryhappy.
Hey, scott, you know it'salways a pleasure doing the
podcast with you, and someone'sbirthday is coming up here
pretty soon.
Actually, both of our birthdaysare coming up here pretty soon,
so got a lot to look forward to.

(35:25):
Got a lot of good things comingup in the weeks coming ahead.
Scott, it's always a pleasuredoing the podcast with you and,
as the best homie always says,Booba.

Scott (35:34):
Good night friends.
Good night Vegas, goldenKnights, minnesota.
Have fun hanging out at theMall of America.
Nobody cares.
Sidor, you're not that good.

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