January 28, 2025 • 60 mins
Recorded January 27th, 2025
What happens when a weekend in Florida unexpectedly leads to the NFC Championship game in Philadelphia? Join us on the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast as we share Scott's whirlwind adventure from sunshine to the electric atmosphere at Lincoln Financial Field. Eagles fans may have a notorious reputation, but Scott's first-hand experience proves otherwise, revealing a surprising camaraderie among rival supporters with shared drinks and unexpected hospitality. We dive into the emotional highs and lows that come with being a football fan and the unique environment where fans of different teams unite in sportsmanship.
Curious about the secret behind the Philadelphia Eagles' recent success? We unpack the strategic brilliance of General Manager Howie Roseman and the impact of standout players like Jalen Carter and Devonta Smith. The MVP debate heats up as we consider Saquon Barkley's chances amidst the quarterback bias. The aftermath of the Bills vs. Chiefs game fuels our lively discussion, highlighting the Chiefs' adaptability and some controversial calls that left us all talking. Our conversation touches on how the coaching legacies of Bill Belichick and Andy Reid would fare in today's NFL dynamics.
To wrap things up, we share some playful banter, a signature of our dynamic friendship. There's gratitude, a bit of humor, and a cheeky nod to Scott's semi-allegiance to the Eagles, all served with a side of good-natured ribbing. We bid farewell to our listeners with a wink and a nod to Buffalo fans, wishing them some table-jumping antics of their own. It's all about capturing the essence of sports talk, friendship, and a weekend full of unexpected adventures.
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Announcer (00:07):
Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the
Bench podcast, with your hostsGraham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Graham (00:21):
What's up everyone.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Bald Guys on the Bench.
Hey, the Super Bowl is set.
It is what it is, scott.
How you doing, brother, how was?
Scott (00:31):
your weekend.
I'm doing good.
Been on the move.
Last week when we chatted I wasgoing to Florida, Then, like I
talked about on the episode,going to the NFC championship
game in Philly.
But before we get into anythingand talk about weekends and all
that, you know what time it is.
Grab it and crack it.
(00:53):
My brother, let's do it.
Graham (00:55):
Let's go.
Scott (00:58):
So my weekend is going to be a long talk, so let's jump
into yours real quick and thenwe'll get into mine.
Fair point.
We got a lot to talk about.
We got heads to turn, we gotmouths to drop.
We got a lot of listeners thatare going to be shocked at what
(01:20):
I'm going to say about myweekend, and we're just going to
start with you.
Graham (01:27):
Well, mine was definitely nowhere near as
exciting as yours, that's fordamn sure.
Just you know.
Had work this past week.
Everything was good, but theone good thing was I had Sunday
off so I could sit at home andwatch ball all day.
I mean, I was excited to havethe day off so I could watch
ball all day and chat with you.
(01:48):
But someone had other ideas.
But obviously you'll get intothat yeah, how selfish of me.
Yeah, exactly, see folks,exactly, so pretty basic over
here.
I mean, that being said, thefloor is yours.
I mean, fill us in, brother,how was your weekend?
Scott (02:05):
Well, we talked about it on the episode last week.
I got the invite right beforewe got on air to go to the game
into Philly about 10, 15, hungout with Maddie before the game
(02:31):
had some beverages got into thestadium.
I had no idea what to expect.
I had no clue.
I'm just going to start theweekend off by saying this
Eagles fans, y'all got a bad rap.
(02:52):
The national media shows allthe bad shit.
Nothing I saw yesterday wasworse than I've seen in any
other stadium.
Not saying it was a little morerowdier, but I will go and say
this Eagles fans, you earned myrespect yesterday.
(03:15):
That stadium was electric.
That place was insane.
I told Kristen Kellen, my dadand a couple other buddies I've
never experienced anything likeit going to NFL games and I was
(03:39):
shocked to say that, granted, wewent into Philadelphia not
wearing the team.
I was pulling for his colors,number one, I don't own any of
that.
But right, number two, we satdown in our seats.
The guide to the right of melooks at me, an older gentleman
(04:04):
and he goes.
So who you pulling for?
The birds or the commandershe's like, who are you a fan of?
And I didn't say anything.
Kind of looked at him funny.
He goes why you give me thatweird look?
And I'm like I'm a fan of thechargers?
And he goes why the hell areyou here?
And I'm like, well, I'msupporting the commanders.
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And he's like, why is that?
And I told him, you know, andhe goes okay, makes sense.
And he goes.
Well, if you guys are winningat any point of the game, he
goes.
Just do me a favor and berespectful, because my brother
and I we've had season ticketssince the old days at the vet,
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and the 10 people in front of usthey've also had season tickets
since the vet.
We've sat here the whole time.
That link has been opened andI'm like, bro, right, you got
nothing to worry about me and mytwo buddies right here, we're
having fun, we're fans of thegame, we're fans of sports,
(05:11):
we're just here.
It just so happens the guy nextto me is friends with somebody
that is associated with thecommanders.
He goes I got it.
Okay, let's fast forward.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna skip around.
Okay, a lot, I'm sure, becauseI've got so many things I want
to talk about.
My guy bought us beers.
(05:31):
Okay, next to me, the people infront of us were buying us
beers.
My guy, my guy, my guy snuck ina bottle of fireball.
Which number one.
That was super weird becauseatcomm you had to empty
everything out of your pockets.
Nothing going into the link.
Graham (05:52):
Was it a plastic bottle?
I don't know it was Fireball.
Scott (05:55):
That's all I care about.
It would have to be Dude, itdoesn't matter, we were ripping
whatever it was, awesome it was.
I knew I was going to have agood time and I knew that Matty,
myself and his brother weren'tgoing to be cheering for the
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commanders out loud Just becauseof the horror stories you've
heard, right, and we've seen,yeah, and that we've seen, and
you know know, the commander'sfirst drive.
I mean, I think they went forit on fourth down, like 87 times
and like, yep, the first fourthdown they got.
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Maddie looks at me and whispersto me he goes you have no idea,
but you and I are high-fivingin my mind right now and i'm'm
like, yeah, exactly, it's soclassic, right?
So he's like we're high-fiving,I'm like I got it.
So then, when the fake punthappened, maddie and I are
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literally standing up elbowingeach other like let's go, let's
go, let's go, but being quiet.
Graham (07:05):
But anyhow, yeah of of course it was awesome, it was
cool.
Scott (07:09):
It was cooler than I thought you know.
Granted we were.
We had amazing seats becausesomebody with commanders got us
tickets.
I'm sure the riffraff way uptop different story, right,
without a doubt a couple ofthings.
Graham (07:24):
Why are you saying that guy that works for him?
We pretty much said it on thelast episode.
Is it like secret information?
Scott (07:30):
now, we never mentioned his name on the last episode.
Are you sure about that?
Yeah, and we never have, evenwhen we went and sat in his
suite.
Graham (07:38):
Huh all right, my bad, I mean I.
Scott (07:40):
I thought I'd have to check the takes, but I mean I
believe I'm almost positive whyyou're being so secretive.
Not that it matters.
Graham (07:45):
I mean it don't matter.
No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
Scott (07:48):
I mean I told all of Philadelphia because I was
trying to big league them.
Graham (07:51):
so I mean Well, that's also my next point, and you
mentioned it.
Obviously, the seats that yougot in the section where you
were and you're with you know,diehards, from what the sound of
it are older.
If you were sitting in adifferent section, I promise you
(08:12):
the high praises of the timethat you had would be completely
different.
Scott (08:13):
I mean, I'm not saying these people were all super old.
There were some younger peopleand in fact, the guy sitting
right next to Maddie's brother,was younger than us and super
cool, and it all comes down tothis.
Graham (08:27):
Yeah, but I'm saying, if you're sitting in the third
level and up.
Scott (08:29):
Yeah, it all comes down to this dude, and I had the
conversation with a lot ofpeople yesterday that were Birds
fans.
I'm not calling them Eaglesanymore, I like calling them
Birds.
It's better, because all Iheard yesterday after the game
was Go Birds, go Birds.
I'm like oh man, sick.
Anyhow, it was amazing, dude.
(08:51):
I'm just going to say this theloyalty of their fans.
If I wasn't a Chargers fan andthis is where the mouth is going
to drop I would be an Eaglesfan.
Graham (09:05):
You know what?
Go fuck yourself.
I'm done with you.
Scott (09:08):
I enjoyed it.
I really was amazed, wasshocked.
Graham (09:19):
I don't Wow.
You said that in front of me.
Audrey's going to hear this ohshe's going to kill me.
Oh, my God, you know what?
You still haven't been to aSteelers game with me in
Pittsburgh, so I don't want tohear shit.
I can tell you right now don'tcare those fans in Philadelphia.
What?
(09:40):
What makes them so special?
Scott (09:43):
I don't know, man, I don't know.
I don't know how to describe it.
I have no idea, graham, I don'tknow.
All I know is I told Kristenand Kellen on the way home I'm
like look next year when theyplay the Broncos at home.
Kellen and I are driving toPhiladelphia to watch the Eagles
(10:03):
boat race the Broncos because Iwant Kellen to experience that.
Graham (10:10):
Wow, well, you weren't lying when you said you had the
jaw-dropping comment before thepodcast.
Scott (10:17):
Oh my, I just I don't know man.
I was shocked, graham.
I was literally shocked.
You know what else shocked me,and I texted you about it what I
thought I'd seen?
It all in an NFL stadium untilI walked into the bathroom at
halftime and saw a chick passout in the guy's bathroom.
(10:41):
What, what yeah.
Graham (10:50):
And she was a dime too, I bet Like.
Scott (10:54):
I texted you yesterday when you asked don't make me
answer that, but after the game?
You know we're not even talkingdetails of the game yet.
After the game, broad Streetwas so sick, roads blocked,
everybody walking arounddrinking beer, doing their thing
(11:17):
, chanting Go Birds, like.
Whatever you see on the newsand on ESPN, the coverage of it
does it no justice until you seeit with your own eyes.
Graham (11:29):
All right.
Scott (11:30):
I mean, maddie and I go get dinner and I'm like, dude, I
got to go outside real quickand get a video of this.
And that's the one.
I sent you the video of thefireworks that I actually posted
on our bald guys Instagramearlier.
And I was like I can't believethis is going on right now.
And your response when I sentyou the video you're like, yeah,
(11:52):
that looks safe.
Safety is the last thing onthese people's minds right now.
But I don't know, dude, it wasjust.
It was amazing from thebeginning when the Eagle came
flying down during the NationalAnthem to I don't know.
I forgive Eagles fans or, well,I shouldn't say that, hopefully
(12:17):
, any Eagle fan that listens toour podcast when I talk shit
about them, I'm going to goahead and just throw it out here
and I'm going to smack myselfin the face.
They threw snowballs at SantaClaus and said he deserved it.
I'm going to go out there andsay it right now.
You know what he probablydeserved it.
Graham (12:37):
You know what?
Scott (12:39):
I just smacked myself three times Okay.
Graham (12:45):
You know, just because you had the one in a fucking
million chance of having themost spectacular time trip
everything the before, the after, the dinner, the cookies, the
cheesesteak.
That's amazing.
I'm happy for you.
But if the Eagles would havelost in a nail biter, that place
would have been lit on fire andyou would not be saying the
(13:08):
same fucking thing yeah, I would, because it would have been
amazing to watch it been lit onfire.
Yeah, but would you still besaying the same thing of oh, I
need to take my son there and oh, da-da-da-da-da-da, yeah,
because that place was electricdude Electric Gr.
Scott (13:25):
That place was electric, dude, electric.
Granted, it was the NFCChampionship game.
I will say this, though Firsttime ever going to an NFL game,
and my seat never hit the assthe entire time, we never sat
down.
Graham (13:44):
Well, yeah, because everyone was standing, you got
to see.
Scott (13:46):
Dude.
I looked at the guy next to methat I was just talking about
and I was like bro, do you eversit in your seat?
Is this like something?
Just because of this game?
And he goes no, we never sit.
Graham (13:59):
You pay for a seat that doesn't even.
Scott (14:02):
I was like that's insane.
Wow, right, I mean I joke onAndy for having two teams and I
don't have two teams.
Graham (14:13):
Now you're up to like four.
Now Four, yeah, okay, threeChargers.
Now you're Redskins.
Now you want to adopt theEagles you root for because of
me.
For the Steelers to win, it'sjust like be loyal to one team
(14:34):
bro.
Scott (14:36):
I am loyal to one team.
Graham (14:37):
Just get a tattoo of a bolt on your arm or your
shoulder.
You can't say oh, I'm going tostart going to.
Scott (14:44):
I am loyal to one team, yeah, and when I moved here I
pulled for the commandersbecause of Taylor.
You know.
Obviously Taylor's not thereanymore.
I rooted for Washington thisyear for a couple reasons.
Number one is I bet on they'reover and the wins, and I bet on
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Jayden Daniels for offensiverookie of the year, and because
the person that got me into theNFC championship game for free
is buddies with one of my goodfriends and that is Cliff
Kingsbury.
So wherever Cliff goes, I pullfor and always will, not that I
(15:26):
pull for him against the.
Chargers, even though I'msitting in his coach's suite and
I can't pull for him.
But wherever he goes, I'll pullfor it.
But I used to.
You know, I hated on the Eagles, dude.
I can't hate on them anymore.
I can't.
They changed my mind, dude.
I can't hate on them anymore.
I can't.
(15:46):
They changed my mind, dude.
They changed my mind.
When I'm watching, I'll just saythis and this is any franchise
Hold on.
When I'm sitting there withthese dudes that are talking to
me and they've been seasonticket holders for that long and
granted, you know same whathappened to me.
You know same what happened tome.
If I'm there during the AFCchampionship game watching my
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Chargers win, your boy's goingto be sobbing like a schoolgirl.
These people are like cryingand hugging, and I loved it
because all I could picture wasme at Qualcomm, where I sat for
(16:29):
14 years, and the family ofpeople that I sat next to, rob
Trevor and all his boys, all theguys around us experiencing
that and thinking, god, I nevergot to experience it.
Yeah, you've been at SoFi forthree years.
Sofi ain't shit.
There's no family at SoFi.
Qualcomm had the true familiesof season ticket holders and I
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was imagining all of us goingthrough what they went through
and I thought it was super cooland, like I said, yeah, I had a
great weekend.
It was awesome.
I wanted Washington to win.
Obviously, we'll get into thatin a second.
They caught lightning in abottle.
They caught Detroit withoutdefense Indoor game, fast the
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end, but it was sick.
It changed my mind, dude, itdid.
I will say the complex whereLincoln Financial is it's also
literally the whole complex iswhere the Phillies play, the
Eagles play and the Flyers andSixers it's all one area.
Oh, wow, yeah.
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And like in LA by the StaplesCenter, what's the place called
Live or whatever it's called?
Yeah, all the bars and stuffthey had.
Yeah, it's called L's.
Yeah, all the bars and stuffthey had.
Graham (17:46):
Yeah, it's called la live.
Scott (17:47):
Yeah, la live.
They had something similar andit's called xfinity live and we
were going to go there.
There's like 40 bars and stuff.
Let me just tell you, the lineto get in and we got on property
around noon was maybe threequarters of a mile long.
Oh, I believe it Like, yeah, no, we're good, but anyhow,
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amazing experience.
I don't even know.
I know it's weird dude.
I told Tristan I'm like I can'teven believe I'm saying this
right now, you know.
Graham (18:23):
I'm just going to say this and I'll leave it alone For
such a great time that you hadin the experience, I hope that
if you do take Kellen to theBroncos-Eagles game, I hope you
have the same experience and youdon't get the latter, which
everyone sees on social media.
Scott (18:41):
Oh no, we'll be cheering for the Eagles.
Graham (18:42):
I hope you have that experience what you going to
wear green Maybe.
Scott (18:49):
I mean, I ain't wearing orange.
Graham (18:56):
It's been a while, but I haven't said this.
Folks, You're unbelievable,You're Ding ding, ding, ding,
ding ding.
Scott (19:04):
I don't know dude.
Graham (19:06):
I'm still shocked, dude okay dude, my, I don't even know
what to say, but I gotsomething written down,
something that we ask all thetime how much was the beer?
Scott (19:19):
well, I do remember this one, even though I had more than
I had at the Patriots game.
Uh, I only had one at thePatriots game.
I only had one at the Patriotsgame.
Don't remember?
Beers were $17.
all right and it was for 24ounce tall boy, which you know
good beer.
Well, I uh miller light all day.
(19:40):
They didn't have coors light,they didn't have ultra.
I was drinking miller light allday, but anybody that listens
has heard me talk about it.
I'm a big pretzel guy.
At stadiums and out ofeverywhere I've been, they got
the best pretzel.
I don't know.
Graham (20:01):
I don't know, man, yeah, but they don't got those bacon
wrapped glizzies though.
Scott (20:04):
No, they don't walk out of there, but also had a
cheesesteak today before I hitthe road.
Oh baby, you, oh baby you Folks, if you've never been to Philly
and you can't believe the hype.
Believe it, believe it.
(20:25):
There's way too much praise forthat city.
As much as I hate theirbaseball team, I can't believe
I'm talking about this, butwhatever.
Before we get into the game'tbelieve I'm talking about this,
but whatever.
Before we get into the game,I'm just going to do this.
I hated that sound.
Graham (21:00):
Anyhow, tell you one thing it ain't no renegade.
Scott (21:04):
I know.
Graham (21:05):
It's way better Shut the front door.
You know what?
I'm just pissing you off.
Why am I friends with yousometimes?
Scott (21:13):
I'm just pissing you off to piss you off.
Anyhow, let's jump right intothe game, dude.
Okay, we haven't even startedtalking about the game, I'm just
going to start off.
I had a little hope thatWashington could win.
I knew they had to play perfect.
But you know, howie Roseman,we've talked about it many times
(21:34):
on the episode.
But, you know, howie Roseman,we've talked about it many times
on the episode Best GM in thesport, in the NFL.
Nobody can argue that.
Okay, and we saw it yesterday,we witnessed it.
The offensive line was bangedup.
Everybody was, like I said,playing musical chairs you play
here, you play here now, youplay here now.
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And they just didn't let up,right.
Also, almost exactly a year tothe day, he was deciding whether
or not to fire Sirianni andhire Belichick.
Remember how they started andfinished last year.
Yeah.
I mean, mean that was a decisionthat needed to be made, right,
(22:20):
and he decided to stick with hisboy.
Sirianni goes out, hires kellenmoore, then goes out and hires
vic fangio.
Yeah, and word on the street isthe saints flew to Philadelphia
today to interview Kellen Moore.
Yep.
So I was listening and doingsome research, talking about how
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and what Howie's done in thedraft and his first draft ever
in 2020,.
At the 21st overall pick, hedrafted Jalen Rager, who's now
on the Chargers.
Okay, at the 21st pick.
Graham (22:59):
You know who he could have drafted.
Scott (23:01):
You know who went one pick later?
Yeah, Tell them folks.
Graham (23:04):
Justin Jefferson.
Scott (23:05):
Could you imagine that dude on that team?
Yep.
So after that draft and afterthat bust, I guess there was
this conference between him andthe player personnel department
and they all agreed from now onwe're drafting best player
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available from big name programsonly.
Right, okay 2021 draft DevontaSmith from Bama, second round.
Landon Dickerson, florida Stateand Bama offensive lineman,
2022,.
Jordan Davis from Georgia youknow that massive human being
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Second round.
Cam Juergens from Nebraska2023,.
Oh, maybe the best defensivelineman in the game right now.
Jalen Carter, oh, thateverybody freaked out about
because of his issues.
But then, in the first roundthe same year, Nolan Smith, both
in the first round, yep, bothfrom Georgia 2024,.
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Best cornerback in the game,even though a smaller school,
toledo Mitchell.
And then takes Cooper to Jeanfrom Iowa and everybody's joking
on them because they're takinga white cornerback.
Both of them instant starters,instant.
The team is so deep, dude, dudeat every position, yeah, every
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position.
And then, oh, yeah, hey, giants, thanks for being douchebags
and not extending Saquon.
How's that working out?
Graham (24:52):
I'll say this I'm a firm believer.
Right now.
I know that they say the NFLawards are only for the regular
season, the opinions shouldn'tgo into the playoffs.
But I'm going to make the case.
The MVP of the league is SaquonBarkley.
Scott (25:10):
It's funny you say that it's not even close.
After the first play on offensefor the eagles, when he took it
to the house and when I say hetook it to the house, he was
coming right at us because wewere sitting in the end zone as
soon as the ball was snapped andhe made that first cut I look
at maddie and I go, oh my god,look, how big that hole is he.
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He scores.
And I turn to my right tohomeboy that's the Eagle fan I
was talking to you about earlierand I go how is he not the MVP
of the league?
And he says because he ain't aquarterback.
I get it Facts.
And that's bullshit, that'sbullshit, that's bullshit, but I
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will.
I can say this If you take JoshAllen off the bills, or the
bills, competitive?
No.
If you take Lamar off theRavens, are they competitive?
No.
If you take Saquon off theEagles, are they competitive?
Yes.
Are they where they are rightnow?
Graham (26:17):
No, hard to say, but there is no chance that they are
where they are Absolutely not,and you look at everybody
banging on Saquon Dude.
Scott (26:30):
Their offensive line in New York was terrible.
Their quarterback was terrible.
He had no chance at all.
Look what he's doing with it.
Their offensive line in NewYork was terrible.
Their quarterback was terrible.
He had no chance at all.
Look what he's doing with theoffensive line.
Graham (26:43):
Look what he's doing with the quarterback Dude if the
Eagles win the Super Bowl, he'sa Hall of Famer, it's too early
to say that.
He's been in the league fiveyears.
He only has two more left.
It's still early to say thathe's been in the league five
years.
He only has two more left.
Scott (26:56):
It's still early to say that.
Graham (26:59):
Just saying the numbers that he puts up.
Scott (27:03):
Oh, I agree.
It seems like every week he'sbreaking out a 60-yard to the
house, tutty.
Graham (27:08):
Bro, he's 30 yards away from breaking the all-time
rushing record for regular andpostseason 30 yards at
2,474-something.
Scott (27:22):
Well, it's safe to say that's getting broken.
Graham (27:26):
Yeah, you know who held it.
Scott (27:32):
All-purpose or just rushing Rushing.
I'm just going to throw one outthere.
First name that came to my mindwas Dickerson.
Nope, who was it?
Graham (27:44):
It was within the last 30 years.
Who your boy?
Lt, no TD.
Yeah, it's TD.
You'd have to go to the SuperBowl.
Yeah, dude, almost 2,500 yardsin 19 games.
It's crazy.
Scott (28:01):
And don't forget, he didn't play the last week.
Graham (28:05):
Exactly, he could have crushed that yeah.
Scott (28:08):
But hey, dude Eagles are in their third Super Bowl, dude,
since 2017.
Yeah, and second in the lastthree years.
Graham (28:21):
Yep and they're a bad holding call from being champs
three years ago.
Scott (28:27):
Dude, I was talking about that last night with this guy
at the bar.
Oh we're not even getting intothat.
He was more bitter because hepreseason bet the Eagles to play
the Bills in the Super Bowl anda $100 bet would have won him
three grand.
So he was more bitter aboutthat.
(28:47):
But yeah, you're right, wetalked about it on the episode
that year.
You can't end a Super Bowl likethat.
But you know we're just talking.
Washington's magic ran out,right.
I mean turnovers killed them.
At one point, dude.
You know Washington had like a37-play drive and their first
(29:08):
possession of the game went forfourth down.
You know 34 times Got threepoints.
And you know we're like, allright, got three.
And then you know, first playfrom scrimmage Saquon yeah, he
gone.
Washington gets the ball backand they turn it over and Eagles
score again.
I'm like, oh shit, this isabout to get ugly early.
And, dude, I couldn't believeat one point Washington was only
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down two, right?
I?
Graham (29:35):
mean it almost had a feeling kind of like the
previous week where you saidWashington was only down two
Right.
It almost had a feeling kind oflike the previous week where
you said when they playedDetroit and they kept going for
it on fourth down, it's likedude, if you can't stop them,
you have to score.
Now this week or this past weekit's like field goals ain't
doing it.
But I agree, you have to gettouchdowns.
Scott (29:55):
It was fourth and five when they decided to kick the
field goal and I agreed they hadno that one.
Graham (30:00):
the first, I agree with yeah.
Scott (30:02):
And then they're down 14 to three and they're getting
ready to literally go three andout and the fake punt happens.
And I'm like, yeah, oh, my God,Did that really just happen?
And dude, all the Eagles fansaround us, the people I was just
talking about, they're alllooking at each other going what
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the blah, blah, blah, blah, youknow, losing their shit.
And that's when Washingtonscores on the Scary Terry Tutty.
And then I'm sitting theretalking to Matty.
I'm like, don't go for two,don't go for two, Don't go for
two.
What do they do?
Go for two, Don't get it.
And you know Washington washanging in there.
Hold them to a field goal rightbefore halftime.
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They kick the ball off.
Washington gets the ball orsupposed to get the ball with a
minute 43 timeouts left, homeboyfumbles it.
Yeah, a minute 40, threetimeouts left, Homeboy fumbles
it.
Then the stupid personal foulpenalty when Saquon's got 87
feet out of bounds and dumbasshits him an extra 15.
On third down, they get a tutty.
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Then Lattimore and AJ Brown getinto it.
This is the dumbest penaltyever, because AJ Brown ripped
Lattimore and AJ Brown get intoit.
This is the dumbest penaltyever because I mean, AJ Brown
ripped Lattimore's helmet off.
Penalty goes against Washington.
Now they go for two.
It's done right, but secondhalf kicks off.
Yeah, they're getting beat upand Washington holds them three
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and out, and then Washingtongets the ball.
They're three and out, and thenWashington gets the ball.
They're three and out.
And it was just.
It was bad, dude, you turn itover.
What did they turn it overThree or four times?
I mean, yeah, you know JadenDaniels played his dick off His
team.
Let him down.
You know the fumbles Ecklerfumbling.
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You know the kickoff returnfumble.
Who else fumbled?
Was Gary Terry?
One of the fumbles?
Graham (32:00):
Yeah, the Eckler one hurt just the momentum that they
had on that draft.
Scott (32:06):
I mean, the Eagles had seven rushing touchdowns, hertz
had three, barkley had three.
Graham (32:13):
That's insane.
Yeah Wild, I think, they said.
And then Barkley's backup tookit 60 yards and then they
finally got him into the endzone at the end of the game.
Scott (32:22):
Yeah, I think they said no, it wasn't his backup because
didn't Gainwell leave the gamewith a concussion.
Graham (32:29):
Oh sorry.
Scott (32:29):
Second, so the third stringer yeah.
Graham (32:31):
It was his first touchdown of the season, I don't
know if it's career, or atleast on the season.
Scott (32:37):
I think I was listening today and don't quote me on this
I think seven Eagles rushed theball.
That's crazy, including Dallas.
Goddard got a handoff.
He had a couple handoffs Right.
I was like I'm sorry who?
Graham (32:54):
did they?
Scott (32:55):
just hand that off to.
Graham (32:57):
In the red zone too, right, insane, I'm like Pretty
wild the way they played andeveryone's like oh, jalen Hurts,
has he injured the knee?
Blah, blah, blah.
Scott (33:13):
Look, obviously the two best teams are left right well,
you're talking about a team inthe Eagles that won 15 I think
of their last 16 and then you'retalking about a team the Chiefs
that lost one game this yearwith their starters in.
Yeah, yeah, the best two teamswon.
Graham (33:38):
I.
I mean I think there's still,there's still going to be some
bitterness from you know therematch, obviously, from a few
years ago.
I just look, it's still early.
We'll talk about our picks, youknow the following week, but I
don't know man, I just withPhilly's D for them only having
to rush four so they can keeptheir linebackers back, and the
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corners and safeties.
I mean I'm not saying they'reblowing them out, but I really
like their chances.
I mean I think it would stillbe a one-score game, but I mean.
Scott (34:10):
I don't know, like, as the Bills and chiefs are
wrapping up, last night I'm liketalking to Maddie.
I'm like all right, bills orchiefs, eagle Superbowl.
I'm like what do you think theline opens up at?
I'm like I'm going to go outthere and say Eagles land a
point and a half, and Maddie'slike I agree with that, maybe
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two game ends.
I get on draft Kings.
The exact opposite.
Graham (34:39):
Yeah, I was shocked but yeah, it's scripted, of course.
Here we go.
Scott (34:49):
I mean, you got the, the best roster on paper playing
against the best head coach,quarterback defensive
coordinator combo maybe of alltimes.
Graham (35:06):
Yeah.
Scott (35:07):
Okay, and as I say that, let's just jump right into it.
And, folks, it's been a longtime since your boys had a kick
rock moment and we're about toget it started, so let's get it
started.
Yeah, let's get it started,okay.
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Everybody that listens to usknows I'm a charter fan and
knows that I hate the chiefsmore than anything Okay, and
knows that I hate the Chiefsmore than anything okay.
But let's just go out and sayall you people out there blaming
the refs for the Chiefs beatingthe Bills last night understand
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a couple things.
The Bills were awful last night.
And let's just start from theirfirst possession, the first
possession of the game.
The Bills get the ball.
Awful possession.
They looked like they had noeffing clue what was going on.
Okay, and what happens?
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Three and out ball goes to theChiefs.
What do the Chiefs do?
90-yard drive, never faced athird down?
You're not.
It looked like andy reed had amonth to prepare for that game
because they picked the billsdefense apart.
They knew where the weaknesseswere and boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Let's go back to my room so wecan do it all night and we can
make you feel right.
Andy Reed said Sean McDermott,hold my beer.
Okay, you're like a man with noarms, you can't hang.
And the entire game was thesame goddamn way.
Okay, oh, for two.
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On two point conversions chasingpoints what do we always talk
about?
Don't chase points.
One for five on the tush pushjim nance is talking about.
Every time the bills do thetush push.
Which way does josh allen go,graham, to the left or to the
right, the left, if jim nancehello friends, knows that you
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don't think steve spagnolio orwhatever, however the fuck you
pronounce his name doesn't knowthat?
Hey, you got a six foot five,massive quarterback.
Hey, let's maybe run himoutside of a tackle.
You know why the tush pushworks so goddamn well for Jalen
Hurts?
Because he's five foot elevenand he gets under the line.
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You can't even see him.
So let's put a massive humanbeing and let's try to do the
Drew Brees and jump over theline.
Yeah, no, it don't work, josh,okay.
And yeah, the Bills fumbled theball four times.
They had a little black magicgoing.
They recovered all four.
Okay, could you imagine that,dude?
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Don't talk to me about this,don't talk to me about that.
Take away those two two-pointconversion failures.
Take extra point what happensat the end, exactly, and let's
just give credit where credit isdue, and I hate it because it's
the goddamn chiefs.
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But the defensive coordinator,genius spags, does my guy dial
up the most amazing blitzes ofall times and the most crucial
moments of every effing big gameand big moment of every game.
And we're not talking aboutalignment or a running back
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whiff on a blitz.
We're talking about dudes thathave a free lane.
Okay, wide ass open.
They're not even touched.
Okay, hey, bills, you do anyfilm review this week preparing
for that defense?
No, you were probably jumpingthrough goddamn chairs with your
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fans.
Oh, shut the bleep up, I mean.
Graham (39:14):
You know what no.
Scott (39:19):
I want the Bills.
Graham (39:19):
You threw an exotic blitz my guy calls exotic
blitzes for the last sevenfucking years, graham I'm aware
of that, but I'm just sayingthey didn't call that blitz all
game and they did a corner blitz, the last play of the game.
You know why?
I'm just saying it was savingit for that moment.
Scott (39:32):
I'm not I.
I I agree with you, but I'mjust saying it was even it for
that moment.
Graham (39:34):
I'm not I.
I I agree with you, but I'mjust going to say this you had
your kick.
Scott (39:39):
Look at the box score.
How even were all the stats?
They were right there.
He was out coached.
He was the chiefs.
I hate it.
I hate to say it.
They make plays when plays aresupposed to happen.
The bills I'll agree with thatAgain had the lead in the fourth
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quarter.
Granted, it was only one, butthe Bills' offense in the second
half was vanilla.
They were playing scared.
Josh Allen looked scared in hisfirst drive.
What are you?
talking about, Dude.
There's two minutes left in thegame, You're down by three and
you're fucking running the ball.
You got no timeouts.
They only needed a field goalto tie.
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Yeah, and that's the mentality.
That's the mentality, becauseyou're trying to fucking tie and
not trying to fucking win.
Graham (40:31):
I promise you they were trying to win.
Scott (40:33):
Yeah, win these nuts at Niagara Falls.
Okay, all right.
I mean I'm sorry for all theF-bombs everybody, but I'm sorry
McDermott, you're awful.
Josh Allen, you're still thegreatest tight end playing
quarterback in the league.
Your defense is garbage.
You know the Ravens would havebeaten the Chiefs.
Graham (40:54):
Not the way they played against the Bills.
I don't know, dude.
So everything that you justsaid, I'm going to throw the.
What you always like to say iswell, if my aunt had balls?
Scott (41:05):
No, is really what I'm going to say Right, you can say
that, no, just let me finish.
You had your time, hold on.
You're allowed to say that, butthere's no.
What if my aunt had my balls?
Spagnuolo, andy Reid, thinkabout this.
Graham (41:16):
A hundred percent.
Scott (41:19):
The Chiefs are about to do what no team has ever done in
the NFL, and that's win threeSuper Bowls in a row.
Pat Mahomes is about to be thefirst player in NFL history
under the age of 30 to have twoMVPs in how many rings Would be
(41:40):
four MVPs and how many ringswould be four?
And that is, they beat thebills, without Travis Kelsey
even being a factor in the game.
Graham (41:52):
You don't think the defense has something to do with
that?
Scott (41:56):
The bills give up the most yards to tight ends in the
league in the AFC.
Graham (42:05):
Yeah, but when they played them during the regular
seasons in Buffalo, what wasKelsey's yards?
Scott (42:09):
Not a lot, but Noah Gray, how many touchdowns did he have
?
Graham (42:13):
Okay, well, pick your poison.
When you're getting down tothese quality caliber of teams,
you're obviously going to havestuds all over the place.
Graham, I'm not disagreeingwith you, and we're also talking
about a first ballot hall offamer I'm not disagreeing with
you, I'm just saying right, I'mjust saying coaching decisions.
Scott (42:33):
I thought this was going to be the year the bills do it a
hundred percent.
Graham (42:38):
And let me tell you something the 30-yard bomb not
only should that, the fact thatthey don't call that an
interception number one, but two, the fact that they gave him
the catch when the ball hit thefucking ground should have not
even been a catch.
I don't, that's number one, Idon't disagree.
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I don't, that's number one, Idon't disagree.
Shouldn't even have been acatch.
But if you're going to call ita catch, the Buffalo guy had it
and then the ball hit the ground, but then somehow the receiver
for Kansas City still had moreof his hand on the ball after
they were already on the ground.
So they give it to Kansas City.
That's two things right there.
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Number two the fourth down.
Call the announcers.
But should I say, or the is itGene Steratore that's on CBS?
The former head official saidhands down, that should have
been a first down.
Not to mention if you looked atthe play, the line judge that
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was coming from the top, comingdown, had the ball and said it
was a first down.
But then the other line judgecomes in.
So that was when they were uptwo points and they were driving
in the fourth quarter.
If they get that and then takethe ball down the field, they're
up nine points.
That's a huge swing in the game.
Huge swing in the game.
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Huge swing in the game.
I'm not saying I disagree.
So that call literally changedthe outcome of the game.
There was six minutes left whenthat happened Huge.
So if you take another minuteand a half off the clock and
they score a touchdown, you'reup nine points with four minutes
left.
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Then, when Buffalo got the ballback and they scored and Kansas
City had to go down the field, Isaw on another just on YouTube,
the same situation wheresomething funny happened again,
where I don't know if it was CBSor what the deal was, but it
was a first down.
Kansas city has the ball,kermit almost gets sacked, but
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then he runs for three yards thenext drive.
So you would think, if he gotthree yards, what would it be?
Second and seven, the clock ornot?
Should I say the clock?
But cbs on the thing said firstand ten, and then they run the
ball.
But that play was the firstdown.
So I mean like I'm not sayingthat play itself meant anything,
but I'm just saying crazy shithappens.
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But to everything you just saidlook, did Kansas City play
better.
Yes, were the Bills on theirshit in the beginning.
No, kansas City is that team.
I get that.
But I'm just saying you can'thave plays with six minutes left
in the game where you make abad call and it affects it to
the point where the game can goeither way well, how about the
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super bowl we were just talkingabout, when the eagles played?
the chiefs that call determinedthe outcome of the game I don't
disagree with you, but thedifference between that call and
what happened against the Billsis this Technically, by the
rule, even though it was thelightest grab of all time, he
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technically did grab him.
Scott (45:53):
I'm just going to say this.
Graham (45:55):
Would they have called that during the regular season?
Absolutely not.
Scott (45:58):
I'm just going to say this.
And they had different coloredgloves on, so they could see it
Watching the Eagles yesterdaygoing into the game, the
Bills-Chiefs game.
All I can think is, yes, I wantthe Bills to win against the
Chiefs, but, my God, are theEagles going to lay the wood to
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the Bills if this happens?
And that's, the Bills'offensive firepower can't even
match up.
Graham (46:27):
Yeah, but you say that, and it was a three-point game.
Scott (46:30):
The Bills' defense couldn't hang with the Eagles.
Graham (46:34):
I get what you're saying , but you make it sound like the
game was so lopsided.
Scott (46:38):
It was three points.
I know that.
What games have the Chiefsblown people out in this year?
They only beat the goddangPanthers by three.
Graham (46:49):
Yeah, you ain't wrong.
Scott (46:53):
I'm just saying.
A lot of casual fans out thereare bitter about the matchup in
the Super Bowl.
Oh, we got to see the Chiefsagain, and me as a Chargers fan
as much as I hate the Chiefs,people out there need to
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understand.
We're seeing some wild crazyhistory shit going on right now.
Graham (47:21):
Oh I.
Scott (47:22):
Yeah, and I hate it, but.
Graham (47:27):
Dude.
Nate Burleson said the samething in the postgame the
greatest you know on CBS, thegreatest thing.
Scott (47:33):
He said the same thing, the greatest thing the Chiefs
have done in the last you know.
Just go back a couple years,remember when Mahomes was
throwing for 35-plus tutties ayear, and now they're a
defensive team.
The greatest thing the Chiefshave done in my mind was let
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Tyreek Hill go so they couldre-sign Jones.
Yeah.
I mean.
Graham (48:03):
Hey, offense wins, but you can't win with defense.
You have to have defense, youhave to have defense.
Scott (48:09):
And hey, bills, how'd that work out, trading with the
Chiefs so they could get worthy?
Graham (48:15):
They liked Coleman better than worthy.
Scott (48:18):
How'd that work out?
Coleman had one grab forwhatever yesterday Tomato,
tomato, I know, I know, I know,I know.
Graham (48:27):
Worthy as a gadget player.
Scott (48:30):
For now.
He started out the year as agadget player taking these
reverses and stuff, but heactually turned into a player
that makes plays.
Graham (48:41):
I won't disagree with you, but he actually turned into
a player that makes plays.
I won't disagree with you.
I mean, look, they're a solid,all-around team.
I mean that's why they're thebest team in the league.
Scott (48:56):
Something I heard today and I wanted to ask you this
Belichick has what?
Six rings?
Yeah, andy Reid has what?
Three.
Yeah, what three.
Yeah, three going first.
Fourth if you, if the wayfootball and the rules are right
now okay, we're the way, we'rethat way back in Belichick 6,
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belichick has four rings, andyReid has an extra couple Because
the rules obviously now favorwhat the offense?
Right, yeah, it's a crazy one,right, it's crazy.
Graham (49:38):
Yeah, but still not that there's an asterisk that needs
to be made.
No, I'm just saying when yougot tom brady, it's like you
know, when you have two.
Scott (49:46):
I mean we're talking about quarter coaches that have
the two greatest quarterbacks ofall time well, let's, let's,
don't forget montana um, I thinkmontana would say if I, I don't
disagree I mean mahomes isabout to have four rings under
the age of 30.
Brady had seven and playeduntil he was what?
How old 42-ish?
Graham (50:09):
I don't know.
Yeah, and Mahomes hasn't lostin the Super Bowl, right,
they've won all of them.
Scott (50:14):
No, they lost two Brady.
Oh yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Graham (50:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, his first one, their first Super.
Scott (50:24):
Bowl, Because that was the one when they played Tampa.
No, they won the first one,they beat the Niners and then
they lost to Tampa.
Graham (50:29):
Okay yeah, you're right, you're right.
Scott (50:32):
But he could have four dude before he was 30 years old.
Yeah, and you know, on Vissen,today, after Kermit won his
first, okay, Circa Sportsbookhad set the number up over one
and a half for Kermit at plus350.
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For his career.
Graham (50:57):
That's a bet I wish I knew about.
Scott (50:58):
I mean, you're talking about a dude, that's I think
that lasted.
What a year I mean yeah, you'retalking about a dude that's
never not gone to the AFCChampionship game In his career.
Graham (51:09):
That's insane.
Scott (51:11):
He lost a.
Graham (51:12):
Well, when you're always the number one seed no, not
last year.
Scott (51:15):
You only need to win one game, not last year they had to
go on the road Buffalo andBaltimore.
Yeah, I mean, it's wild.
And don't forget, they gothomeboy Rice coming back next
year.
Graham (51:29):
It's wild.
They still got Hollywood Brown.
Why would you need Rice withthe way Worthy is playing?
And then Because they're stillon All that drama.
They're still rookie contracts.
No, I mean.
I get all that.
I'm just saying yeah, but theyalso pushed his court date back
with everything.
I don't even know how he hasn'teven been suspended, yet so.
(51:52):
I'm not even projecting himeven to be on the team.
Scott (51:56):
So the matchup literally has been set for less than 24
hours.
We already heard you think theEagles cover minus one and a
half.
You told me you're taking them.
You know money line what wasmoney line Plus 120?
Graham (52:15):
Something like that.
Right, yeah, plus 120.
Is plus 115 or plus 120?
Yeah, I think it's plus 115.
Okay, I don't know, I thinkit's plus 115.
Okay, I don't know, I'm kind ofliking the over too.
What is that?
Do you know?
48 and a half.
Scott (52:31):
Both teams' defenses are solid.
I hope it goes over so we don'thave a 19-16 game or something
like that 19-16 game orsomething like that With Saquon.
Graham (52:44):
I just With who I think the MVP should be.
He just brings such a dynamicto them, even like he didn't
even really catch the ballyesterday.
Scott (52:55):
Yeah, he's not going to be able to run.
I mean I'm not saying he's notgoing to be able to run the ball
.
Graham (53:00):
He's not going to be able to gash teams like he has
against the Chiefs All right, sookay, then let me ask you this
question, Obviously because ofthe poorest defensive line that
the Commanders have, the propfor his rushing was one, hey
Payne, best defensive lineman onthe Commanders.
Scott (53:21):
I'm sorry.
Why did you miss the gameyesterday?
Your finger injury?
Oh, I'm sorry, thumb, whatYou're a defensive lineman
Aren't you supposed to be?
Do you know how?
Graham (53:33):
important your thumb is.
Scott (53:34):
Aren't you supposed to be a big badass?
Tape it up, cast it up.
Let's go Fuck your thumb.
I remember Marcus McNeil,rookie left tackle for the
Chargers, had two brokenforearms, and is out there
playing with two casts.
Okay, screw your thumb.
Stick it up your ass.
Okay, it's the biggest game ofyour life.
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It's the NFC Championship game.
Remember when the Packersplayed the Bears in the NFC
Championship game?
Remember when the Packersplayed the Bears in the NFC
Championship game and Jay Cutlerhad a little finger issue?
Oh, you're quarterback.
Oh, I'm going to go sit on thesideline.
My non-throwing hand yeah, youand Jay Cutler just got
mentioned in the same sentence.
Okay, hockey dudes, take askate to the face and get 40
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stitches and come out in thenext period.
And you're worried about yourlittle piddly thumb?
Oh, what do you want to know?
You want to know a little sugartitty.
I mean, get out of here, bro.
I mean, come on.
If I'm a commander fan and Ihave your Jersey, you're dead to
me.
Graham (54:40):
Put your sugar titties away.
All right, biggest game of.
Scott (54:42):
I have your jersey.
You're dead to me.
Put your sugar titties away,all right, biggest game of your
career and your thumb hurts.
So you're going to go cry tothe doctor.
Kick rocks, get the F out ofhere.
I would give my left nut Grahamwould give his left nut to be
out on the field getting paidwhat you get paid to be playing
in a game like this and you'reworried about a fucking thumb
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injury.
And, by the way, thisdefinitely leads the over under
on f bombs by your boy tonightI'm just.
Graham (55:11):
Well, you definitely have the better chance of
playing d tackle than I do, soI'm just saying dude, like
seriously I feel you.
Anyway, to my point, theover-under was like 135.5
rushing yards for Saquon becauseof that D-line.
What do you think hisover-under for yardage now
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against the KC D-line?
Scott (55:37):
Is it already out there?
Do you know the answer?
Graham (55:40):
I have no idea.
Scott (55:40):
Oh, I thought you.
Graham (55:42):
I mean, I just thought of this on the spot.
Scott (55:45):
I will tell you this Anybody that's betting whatever
Pacheco's yardage is in theSuper Bowl, bet the under.
Graham (55:54):
Dude, I'm so happy I did .
I wish I would have done itfirst TD, but I did Kareem Hunt
anytime touchdown.
He got that first one.
I was like let's go.
Scott (56:03):
I also say whatever Kareem Hunt rushing attempts is,
bet the over.
I know right, let's see Rushing.
I'm looking at it right now,rushing props, because I'm
looking too.
120 plus is plus 100.
Graham (56:19):
No, but what's his specifically?
Let's see.
Scott (56:26):
Over 116.5.
Graham (56:28):
Wow, I got it for 123.5.
And by smack myself I got it at113.5.
Sorry.
Scott (56:39):
Pacheco is 22.5.
Betacheco Pacheco is 22 and ahalf.
Bet that under Dude.
Graham (56:44):
What Kareem Hunt's rushing attempts is 11 and a
half.
Take it At plus 100.
Take it, hmm.
Well, we can talk more aboutthat, but we'll just save that
for next week's episode, becauseit's pretty much going to be
all about bets.
Scott (57:02):
But before we even go just got to throw this out there
.
Anybody notice at what time theCowboys head coach was
announced on Friday, 1030Eastern.
Graham (57:20):
Who Michael Irvin is heated.30 Eastern who Michael
Irvin is heated he is.
I will say this as someone thathas distaste for the Cowboys.
I'm just laughing.
This just makes me so happy.
Scott (57:34):
I mean, if it wasn't for the Giants and their bullshit
going on over there in theirfranchise, how do you think the
Cowboys feel right now?
Everybody called the NFC Eastthe NFC least and they had two
teams in the NFC Championshipgame and we all know the Eagles
(57:57):
are awesome, obviously, playingin the Super Bowl and the
Commanders advanced to the NFCChampionship game and they've
had the third most cap spaceamazing quarterback Cowboys, wow
.
Graham (58:13):
Well, it's what happens when you have a GM that knows
what the hell he's doing.
Scott (58:18):
You mean not an 80-year-old ownererry jones that
is literally doing the exactsame thing as al davis at the
end of his life for the raiders,yeah, but at least jerry jones
didn't pick people just becausethey were the fastest person at
the combine.
Graham (58:36):
I mean just saying speaking of the raiders, pete
carroll I liked in his PESconference where he basically
says you know we need to bringback.
He's like we need to fill thesestadiums with our fans and I'm
like good luck with that.
Scott (58:50):
Good luck in Vegas, bro.
I thought something you wouldlike is the rumor of Russell
Wilson going to the Raiders.
Graham (58:59):
Bro, there's so many things that need to happen with
Pittsburgh right now.
That's a whole other topic ofconversation we can get into
next week.
Yeah, it is so.
That being said, scott, it'sbeen a pleasure doing the
podcast with you.
Love you to death.
I'm glad you had a great time.
I hate the fact that you saidyou're going to be a
pseudo-Eagles fan.
Now Eat a dick.
(59:19):
Wait a minute.
Scott (59:21):
I didn't say I was going to.
I said I would pull for them.
Graham (59:25):
I know I'm just messing with you.
Anyway, as the best friendalways says, boo-bye.
Scott (59:34):
Good night friends.
Good night Buffalo.
Enjoy your window being closing.
Hope you have bruises on yourass for jumping through those
tables.
Graham (59:46):
Booba.
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Graham (00:21):
What's up everyone.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Bald Guys on the Bench.
Hey, the Super Bowl is set.
It is what it is, scott.
How you doing, brother, how was?
Scott (00:31):
your weekend.
I'm doing good.
Been on the move.
Last week when we chatted I wasgoing to Florida, Then, like I
talked about on the episode,going to the NFC championship
game in Philly.
But before we get into anythingand talk about weekends and all
that, you know what time it is.
Grab it and crack it.
(00:53):
My brother, let's do it.
Graham (00:55):
Let's go.
Scott (00:58):
So my weekend is going to be a long talk, so let's jump
into yours real quick and thenwe'll get into mine.
Fair point.
We got a lot to talk about.
We got heads to turn, we gotmouths to drop.
We got a lot of listeners thatare going to be shocked at what
(01:20):
I'm going to say about myweekend, and we're just going to
start with you.
Graham (01:27):
Well, mine was definitely nowhere near as
exciting as yours, that's fordamn sure.
Just you know.
Had work this past week.
Everything was good, but theone good thing was I had Sunday
off so I could sit at home andwatch ball all day.
I mean, I was excited to havethe day off so I could watch
ball all day and chat with you.
(01:48):
But someone had other ideas.
But obviously you'll get intothat yeah, how selfish of me.
Yeah, exactly, see folks,exactly, so pretty basic over
here.
I mean, that being said, thefloor is yours.
I mean, fill us in, brother,how was your weekend?
Scott (02:05):
Well, we talked about it on the episode last week.
I got the invite right beforewe got on air to go to the game
into Philly about 10, 15, hungout with Maddie before the game
(02:31):
had some beverages got into thestadium.
I had no idea what to expect.
I had no clue.
I'm just going to start theweekend off by saying this
Eagles fans, y'all got a bad rap.
(02:52):
The national media shows allthe bad shit.
Nothing I saw yesterday wasworse than I've seen in any
other stadium.
Not saying it was a little morerowdier, but I will go and say
this Eagles fans, you earned myrespect yesterday.
(03:15):
That stadium was electric.
That place was insane.
I told Kristen Kellen, my dadand a couple other buddies I've
never experienced anything likeit going to NFL games and I was
(03:39):
shocked to say that, granted, wewent into Philadelphia not
wearing the team.
I was pulling for his colors,number one, I don't own any of
that.
But right, number two, we satdown in our seats.
The guide to the right of melooks at me, an older gentleman
(04:04):
and he goes.
So who you pulling for?
The birds or the commandershe's like, who are you a fan of?
And I didn't say anything.
Kind of looked at him funny.
He goes why you give me thatweird look?
And I'm like I'm a fan of thechargers?
And he goes why the hell areyou here?
And I'm like, well, I'msupporting the commanders.
(04:28):
And he's like, why is that?
And I told him, you know, andhe goes okay, makes sense.
And he goes.
Well, if you guys are winningat any point of the game, he
goes.
Just do me a favor and berespectful, because my brother
and I we've had season ticketssince the old days at the vet,
(04:50):
and the 10 people in front of usthey've also had season tickets
since the vet.
We've sat here the whole time.
That link has been opened andI'm like, bro, right, you got
nothing to worry about me and mytwo buddies right here, we're
having fun, we're fans of thegame, we're fans of sports,
(05:11):
we're just here.
It just so happens the guy nextto me is friends with somebody
that is associated with thecommanders.
He goes I got it.
Okay, let's fast forward.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna skip around.
Okay, a lot, I'm sure, becauseI've got so many things I want
to talk about.
My guy bought us beers.
(05:31):
Okay, next to me, the people infront of us were buying us
beers.
My guy, my guy, my guy snuck ina bottle of fireball.
Which number one.
That was super weird becauseatcomm you had to empty
everything out of your pockets.
Nothing going into the link.
Graham (05:52):
Was it a plastic bottle?
I don't know it was Fireball.
Scott (05:55):
That's all I care about.
It would have to be Dude, itdoesn't matter, we were ripping
whatever it was, awesome it was.
I knew I was going to have agood time and I knew that Matty,
myself and his brother weren'tgoing to be cheering for the
(06:15):
commanders out loud Just becauseof the horror stories you've
heard, right, and we've seen,yeah, and that we've seen, and
you know know, the commander'sfirst drive.
I mean, I think they went forit on fourth down, like 87 times
and like, yep, the first fourthdown they got.
(06:36):
Maddie looks at me and whispersto me he goes you have no idea,
but you and I are high-fivingin my mind right now and i'm'm
like, yeah, exactly, it's soclassic, right?
So he's like we're high-fiving,I'm like I got it.
So then, when the fake punthappened, maddie and I are
(06:59):
literally standing up elbowingeach other like let's go, let's
go, let's go, but being quiet.
Graham (07:05):
But anyhow, yeah of of course it was awesome, it was
cool.
Scott (07:09):
It was cooler than I thought you know.
Granted we were.
We had amazing seats becausesomebody with commanders got us
tickets.
I'm sure the riffraff way uptop different story, right,
without a doubt a couple ofthings.
Graham (07:24):
Why are you saying that guy that works for him?
We pretty much said it on thelast episode.
Is it like secret information?
Scott (07:30):
now, we never mentioned his name on the last episode.
Are you sure about that?
Yeah, and we never have, evenwhen we went and sat in his
suite.
Graham (07:38):
Huh all right, my bad, I mean I.
Scott (07:40):
I thought I'd have to check the takes, but I mean I
believe I'm almost positive whyyou're being so secretive.
Not that it matters.
Graham (07:45):
I mean it don't matter.
No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
Scott (07:48):
I mean I told all of Philadelphia because I was
trying to big league them.
Graham (07:51):
so I mean Well, that's also my next point, and you
mentioned it.
Obviously, the seats that yougot in the section where you
were and you're with you know,diehards, from what the sound of
it are older.
If you were sitting in adifferent section, I promise you
(08:12):
the high praises of the timethat you had would be completely
different.
Scott (08:13):
I mean, I'm not saying these people were all super old.
There were some younger peopleand in fact, the guy sitting
right next to Maddie's brother,was younger than us and super
cool, and it all comes down tothis.
Graham (08:27):
Yeah, but I'm saying, if you're sitting in the third
level and up.
Scott (08:29):
Yeah, it all comes down to this dude, and I had the
conversation with a lot ofpeople yesterday that were Birds
fans.
I'm not calling them Eaglesanymore, I like calling them
Birds.
It's better, because all Iheard yesterday after the game
was Go Birds, go Birds.
I'm like oh man, sick.
Anyhow, it was amazing, dude.
(08:51):
I'm just going to say this theloyalty of their fans.
If I wasn't a Chargers fan andthis is where the mouth is going
to drop I would be an Eaglesfan.
Graham (09:05):
You know what?
Go fuck yourself.
I'm done with you.
Scott (09:08):
I enjoyed it.
I really was amazed, wasshocked.
Graham (09:19):
I don't Wow.
You said that in front of me.
Audrey's going to hear this ohshe's going to kill me.
Oh, my God, you know what?
You still haven't been to aSteelers game with me in
Pittsburgh, so I don't want tohear shit.
I can tell you right now don'tcare those fans in Philadelphia.
What?
(09:40):
What makes them so special?
Scott (09:43):
I don't know, man, I don't know.
I don't know how to describe it.
I have no idea, graham, I don'tknow.
All I know is I told Kristenand Kellen on the way home I'm
like look next year when theyplay the Broncos at home.
Kellen and I are driving toPhiladelphia to watch the Eagles
(10:03):
boat race the Broncos because Iwant Kellen to experience that.
Graham (10:10):
Wow, well, you weren't lying when you said you had the
jaw-dropping comment before thepodcast.
Scott (10:17):
Oh my, I just I don't know man.
I was shocked, graham.
I was literally shocked.
You know what else shocked me,and I texted you about it what I
thought I'd seen?
It all in an NFL stadium untilI walked into the bathroom at
halftime and saw a chick passout in the guy's bathroom.
(10:41):
What, what yeah.
Graham (10:50):
And she was a dime too, I bet Like.
Scott (10:54):
I texted you yesterday when you asked don't make me
answer that, but after the game?
You know we're not even talkingdetails of the game yet.
After the game, broad Streetwas so sick, roads blocked,
everybody walking arounddrinking beer, doing their thing
(11:17):
, chanting Go Birds, like.
Whatever you see on the newsand on ESPN, the coverage of it
does it no justice until you seeit with your own eyes.
Graham (11:29):
All right.
Scott (11:30):
I mean, maddie and I go get dinner and I'm like, dude, I
got to go outside real quickand get a video of this.
And that's the one.
I sent you the video of thefireworks that I actually posted
on our bald guys Instagramearlier.
And I was like I can't believethis is going on right now.
And your response when I sentyou the video you're like, yeah,
(11:52):
that looks safe.
Safety is the last thing onthese people's minds right now.
But I don't know, dude, it wasjust.
It was amazing from thebeginning when the Eagle came
flying down during the NationalAnthem to I don't know.
I forgive Eagles fans or, well,I shouldn't say that, hopefully
(12:17):
, any Eagle fan that listens toour podcast when I talk shit
about them, I'm going to goahead and just throw it out here
and I'm going to smack myselfin the face.
They threw snowballs at SantaClaus and said he deserved it.
I'm going to go out there andsay it right now.
You know what he probablydeserved it.
Graham (12:37):
You know what?
Scott (12:39):
I just smacked myself three times Okay.
Graham (12:45):
You know, just because you had the one in a fucking
million chance of having themost spectacular time trip
everything the before, the after, the dinner, the cookies, the
cheesesteak.
That's amazing.
I'm happy for you.
But if the Eagles would havelost in a nail biter, that place
would have been lit on fire andyou would not be saying the
(13:08):
same fucking thing yeah, I would, because it would have been
amazing to watch it been lit onfire.
Yeah, but would you still besaying the same thing of oh, I
need to take my son there and oh, da-da-da-da-da-da, yeah,
because that place was electricdude Electric Gr.
Scott (13:25):
That place was electric, dude, electric.
Granted, it was the NFCChampionship game.
I will say this, though Firsttime ever going to an NFL game,
and my seat never hit the assthe entire time, we never sat
down.
Graham (13:44):
Well, yeah, because everyone was standing, you got
to see.
Scott (13:46):
Dude.
I looked at the guy next to methat I was just talking about
and I was like bro, do you eversit in your seat?
Is this like something?
Just because of this game?
And he goes no, we never sit.
Graham (13:59):
You pay for a seat that doesn't even.
Scott (14:02):
I was like that's insane.
Wow, right, I mean I joke onAndy for having two teams and I
don't have two teams.
Graham (14:13):
Now you're up to like four.
Now Four, yeah, okay, threeChargers.
Now you're Redskins.
Now you want to adopt theEagles you root for because of
me.
For the Steelers to win, it'sjust like be loyal to one team
(14:34):
bro.
Scott (14:36):
I am loyal to one team.
Graham (14:37):
Just get a tattoo of a bolt on your arm or your
shoulder.
You can't say oh, I'm going tostart going to.
Scott (14:44):
I am loyal to one team, yeah, and when I moved here I
pulled for the commandersbecause of Taylor.
You know.
Obviously Taylor's not thereanymore.
I rooted for Washington thisyear for a couple reasons.
Number one is I bet on they'reover and the wins, and I bet on
(15:05):
Jayden Daniels for offensiverookie of the year, and because
the person that got me into theNFC championship game for free
is buddies with one of my goodfriends and that is Cliff
Kingsbury.
So wherever Cliff goes, I pullfor and always will, not that I
(15:26):
pull for him against the.
Chargers, even though I'msitting in his coach's suite and
I can't pull for him.
But wherever he goes, I'll pullfor it.
But I used to.
You know, I hated on the Eagles, dude.
I can't hate on them anymore.
I can't.
They changed my mind, dude.
I can't hate on them anymore.
I can't.
(15:46):
They changed my mind, dude.
They changed my mind.
When I'm watching, I'll just saythis and this is any franchise
Hold on.
When I'm sitting there withthese dudes that are talking to
me and they've been seasonticket holders for that long and
granted, you know same whathappened to me.
You know same what happened tome.
If I'm there during the AFCchampionship game watching my
(16:08):
Chargers win, your boy's goingto be sobbing like a schoolgirl.
These people are like cryingand hugging, and I loved it
because all I could picture wasme at Qualcomm, where I sat for
(16:29):
14 years, and the family ofpeople that I sat next to, rob
Trevor and all his boys, all theguys around us experiencing
that and thinking, god, I nevergot to experience it.
Yeah, you've been at SoFi forthree years.
Sofi ain't shit.
There's no family at SoFi.
Qualcomm had the true familiesof season ticket holders and I
(16:51):
was imagining all of us goingthrough what they went through
and I thought it was super cooland, like I said, yeah, I had a
great weekend.
It was awesome.
I wanted Washington to win.
Obviously, we'll get into thatin a second.
They caught lightning in abottle.
They caught Detroit withoutdefense Indoor game, fast the
(17:15):
end, but it was sick.
It changed my mind, dude, itdid.
I will say the complex whereLincoln Financial is it's also
literally the whole complex iswhere the Phillies play, the
Eagles play and the Flyers andSixers it's all one area.
Oh, wow, yeah.
(17:36):
And like in LA by the StaplesCenter, what's the place called
Live or whatever it's called?
Yeah, all the bars and stuffthey had.
Yeah, it's called L's.
Yeah, all the bars and stuffthey had.
Graham (17:46):
Yeah, it's called la live.
Scott (17:47):
Yeah, la live.
They had something similar andit's called xfinity live and we
were going to go there.
There's like 40 bars and stuff.
Let me just tell you, the lineto get in and we got on property
around noon was maybe threequarters of a mile long.
Oh, I believe it Like, yeah, no, we're good, but anyhow,
(18:12):
amazing experience.
I don't even know.
I know it's weird dude.
I told Tristan I'm like I can'teven believe I'm saying this
right now, you know.
Graham (18:23):
I'm just going to say this and I'll leave it alone For
such a great time that you hadin the experience, I hope that
if you do take Kellen to theBroncos-Eagles game, I hope you
have the same experience and youdon't get the latter, which
everyone sees on social media.
Scott (18:41):
Oh no, we'll be cheering for the Eagles.
Graham (18:42):
I hope you have that experience what you going to
wear green Maybe.
Scott (18:49):
I mean, I ain't wearing orange.
Graham (18:56):
It's been a while, but I haven't said this.
Folks, You're unbelievable,You're Ding ding, ding, ding,
ding ding.
Scott (19:04):
I don't know dude.
Graham (19:06):
I'm still shocked, dude okay dude, my, I don't even know
what to say, but I gotsomething written down,
something that we ask all thetime how much was the beer?
Scott (19:19):
well, I do remember this one, even though I had more than
I had at the Patriots game.
Uh, I only had one at thePatriots game.
I only had one at the Patriotsgame.
Don't remember?
Beers were $17.
all right and it was for 24ounce tall boy, which you know
good beer.
Well, I uh miller light all day.
(19:40):
They didn't have coors light,they didn't have ultra.
I was drinking miller light allday, but anybody that listens
has heard me talk about it.
I'm a big pretzel guy.
At stadiums and out ofeverywhere I've been, they got
the best pretzel.
I don't know.
Graham (20:01):
I don't know, man, yeah, but they don't got those bacon
wrapped glizzies though.
Scott (20:04):
No, they don't walk out of there, but also had a
cheesesteak today before I hitthe road.
Oh baby, you, oh baby you Folks, if you've never been to Philly
and you can't believe the hype.
Believe it, believe it.
(20:25):
There's way too much praise forthat city.
As much as I hate theirbaseball team, I can't believe
I'm talking about this, butwhatever.
Before we get into the game'tbelieve I'm talking about this,
but whatever.
Before we get into the game,I'm just going to do this.
I hated that sound.
Graham (21:00):
Anyhow, tell you one thing it ain't no renegade.
Scott (21:04):
I know.
Graham (21:05):
It's way better Shut the front door.
You know what?
I'm just pissing you off.
Why am I friends with yousometimes?
Scott (21:13):
I'm just pissing you off to piss you off.
Anyhow, let's jump right intothe game, dude.
Okay, we haven't even startedtalking about the game, I'm just
going to start off.
I had a little hope thatWashington could win.
I knew they had to play perfect.
But you know, howie Roseman,we've talked about it many times
(21:34):
on the episode.
But, you know, howie Roseman,we've talked about it many times
on the episode Best GM in thesport, in the NFL.
Nobody can argue that.
Okay, and we saw it yesterday,we witnessed it.
The offensive line was bangedup.
Everybody was, like I said,playing musical chairs you play
here, you play here now, youplay here now.
(21:56):
And they just didn't let up,right.
Also, almost exactly a year tothe day, he was deciding whether
or not to fire Sirianni andhire Belichick.
Remember how they started andfinished last year.
Yeah.
I mean, mean that was a decisionthat needed to be made, right,
(22:20):
and he decided to stick with hisboy.
Sirianni goes out, hires kellenmoore, then goes out and hires
vic fangio.
Yeah, and word on the street isthe saints flew to Philadelphia
today to interview Kellen Moore.
Yep.
So I was listening and doingsome research, talking about how
(22:46):
and what Howie's done in thedraft and his first draft ever
in 2020,.
At the 21st overall pick, hedrafted Jalen Rager, who's now
on the Chargers.
Okay, at the 21st pick.
Graham (22:59):
You know who he could have drafted.
Scott (23:01):
You know who went one pick later?
Yeah, Tell them folks.
Graham (23:04):
Justin Jefferson.
Scott (23:05):
Could you imagine that dude on that team?
Yep.
So after that draft and afterthat bust, I guess there was
this conference between him andthe player personnel department
and they all agreed from now onwe're drafting best player
(23:26):
available from big name programsonly.
Right, okay 2021 draft DevontaSmith from Bama, second round.
Landon Dickerson, florida Stateand Bama offensive lineman,
2022,.
Jordan Davis from Georgia youknow that massive human being
(23:48):
Second round.
Cam Juergens from Nebraska2023,.
Oh, maybe the best defensivelineman in the game right now.
Jalen Carter, oh, thateverybody freaked out about
because of his issues.
But then, in the first roundthe same year, Nolan Smith, both
in the first round, yep, bothfrom Georgia 2024,.
(24:13):
Best cornerback in the game,even though a smaller school,
toledo Mitchell.
And then takes Cooper to Jeanfrom Iowa and everybody's joking
on them because they're takinga white cornerback.
Both of them instant starters,instant.
The team is so deep, dude, dudeat every position, yeah, every
(24:40):
position.
And then, oh, yeah, hey, giants, thanks for being douchebags
and not extending Saquon.
How's that working out?
Graham (24:52):
I'll say this I'm a firm believer.
Right now.
I know that they say the NFLawards are only for the regular
season, the opinions shouldn'tgo into the playoffs.
But I'm going to make the case.
The MVP of the league is SaquonBarkley.
Scott (25:10):
It's funny you say that it's not even close.
After the first play on offensefor the eagles, when he took it
to the house and when I say hetook it to the house, he was
coming right at us because wewere sitting in the end zone as
soon as the ball was snapped andhe made that first cut I look
at maddie and I go, oh my god,look, how big that hole is he.
(25:33):
He scores.
And I turn to my right tohomeboy that's the Eagle fan I
was talking to you about earlierand I go how is he not the MVP
of the league?
And he says because he ain't aquarterback.
I get it Facts.
And that's bullshit, that'sbullshit, that's bullshit, but I
(25:55):
will.
I can say this If you take JoshAllen off the bills, or the
bills, competitive?
No.
If you take Lamar off theRavens, are they competitive?
No.
If you take Saquon off theEagles, are they competitive?
Yes.
Are they where they are rightnow?
Graham (26:17):
No, hard to say, but there is no chance that they are
where they are Absolutely not,and you look at everybody
banging on Saquon Dude.
Scott (26:30):
Their offensive line in New York was terrible.
Their quarterback was terrible.
He had no chance at all.
Look what he's doing with it.
Their offensive line in NewYork was terrible.
Their quarterback was terrible.
He had no chance at all.
Look what he's doing with theoffensive line.
Graham (26:43):
Look what he's doing with the quarterback Dude if the
Eagles win the Super Bowl, he'sa Hall of Famer, it's too early
to say that.
He's been in the league fiveyears.
He only has two more left.
It's still early to say thathe's been in the league five
years.
He only has two more left.
Scott (26:56):
It's still early to say that.
Graham (26:59):
Just saying the numbers that he puts up.
Scott (27:03):
Oh, I agree.
It seems like every week he'sbreaking out a 60-yard to the
house, tutty.
Graham (27:08):
Bro, he's 30 yards away from breaking the all-time
rushing record for regular andpostseason 30 yards at
2,474-something.
Scott (27:22):
Well, it's safe to say that's getting broken.
Graham (27:26):
Yeah, you know who held it.
Scott (27:32):
All-purpose or just rushing Rushing.
I'm just going to throw one outthere.
First name that came to my mindwas Dickerson.
Nope, who was it?
Graham (27:44):
It was within the last 30 years.
Who your boy?
Lt, no TD.
Yeah, it's TD.
You'd have to go to the SuperBowl.
Yeah, dude, almost 2,500 yardsin 19 games.
It's crazy.
Scott (28:01):
And don't forget, he didn't play the last week.
Graham (28:05):
Exactly, he could have crushed that yeah.
Scott (28:08):
But hey, dude Eagles are in their third Super Bowl, dude,
since 2017.
Yeah, and second in the lastthree years.
Graham (28:21):
Yep and they're a bad holding call from being champs
three years ago.
Scott (28:27):
Dude, I was talking about that last night with this guy
at the bar.
Oh we're not even getting intothat.
He was more bitter because hepreseason bet the Eagles to play
the Bills in the Super Bowl anda $100 bet would have won him
three grand.
So he was more bitter aboutthat.
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But yeah, you're right, wetalked about it on the episode
that year.
You can't end a Super Bowl likethat.
But you know we're just talking.
Washington's magic ran out,right.
I mean turnovers killed them.
At one point, dude.
You know Washington had like a37-play drive and their first
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possession of the game went forfourth down.
You know 34 times Got threepoints.
And you know we're like, allright, got three.
And then you know, first playfrom scrimmage Saquon yeah, he
gone.
Washington gets the ball backand they turn it over and Eagles
score again.
I'm like, oh shit, this isabout to get ugly early.
And, dude, I couldn't believeat one point Washington was only
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down two, right?
I?
Graham (29:35):
mean it almost had a feeling kind of like the
previous week where you saidWashington was only down two
Right.
It almost had a feeling kind oflike the previous week where
you said when they playedDetroit and they kept going for
it on fourth down, it's likedude, if you can't stop them,
you have to score.
Now this week or this past weekit's like field goals ain't
doing it.
But I agree, you have to gettouchdowns.
Scott (29:55):
It was fourth and five when they decided to kick the
field goal and I agreed they hadno that one.
Graham (30:00):
the first, I agree with yeah.
Scott (30:02):
And then they're down 14 to three and they're getting
ready to literally go three andout and the fake punt happens.
And I'm like, yeah, oh, my God,Did that really just happen?
And dude, all the Eagles fansaround us, the people I was just
talking about, they're alllooking at each other going what
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the blah, blah, blah, blah, youknow, losing their shit.
And that's when Washingtonscores on the Scary Terry Tutty.
And then I'm sitting theretalking to Matty.
I'm like, don't go for two,don't go for two, Don't go for
two.
What do they do?
Go for two, Don't get it.
And you know Washington washanging in there.
Hold them to a field goal rightbefore halftime.
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They kick the ball off.
Washington gets the ball orsupposed to get the ball with a
minute 43 timeouts left, homeboyfumbles it.
Yeah, a minute 40, threetimeouts left, Homeboy fumbles
it.
Then the stupid personal foulpenalty when Saquon's got 87
feet out of bounds and dumbasshits him an extra 15.
On third down, they get a tutty.
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Then Lattimore and AJ Brown getinto it.
This is the dumbest penaltyever, because AJ Brown ripped
Lattimore and AJ Brown get intoit.
This is the dumbest penaltyever because I mean, AJ Brown
ripped Lattimore's helmet off.
Penalty goes against Washington.
Now they go for two.
It's done right, but secondhalf kicks off.
Yeah, they're getting beat upand Washington holds them three
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and out, and then Washingtongets the ball.
They're three and out, and thenWashington gets the ball.
They're three and out.
And it was just.
It was bad, dude, you turn itover.
What did they turn it overThree or four times?
I mean, yeah, you know JadenDaniels played his dick off His
team.
Let him down.
You know the fumbles Ecklerfumbling.
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You know the kickoff returnfumble.
Who else fumbled?
Was Gary Terry?
One of the fumbles?
Graham (32:00):
Yeah, the Eckler one hurt just the momentum that they
had on that draft.
Scott (32:06):
I mean, the Eagles had seven rushing touchdowns, hertz
had three, barkley had three.
Graham (32:13):
That's insane.
Yeah Wild, I think, they said.
And then Barkley's backup tookit 60 yards and then they
finally got him into the endzone at the end of the game.
Scott (32:22):
Yeah, I think they said no, it wasn't his backup because
didn't Gainwell leave the gamewith a concussion.
Graham (32:29):
Oh sorry.
Scott (32:29):
Second, so the third stringer yeah.
Graham (32:31):
It was his first touchdown of the season, I don't
know if it's career, or atleast on the season.
Scott (32:37):
I think I was listening today and don't quote me on this
I think seven Eagles rushed theball.
That's crazy, including Dallas.
Goddard got a handoff.
He had a couple handoffs Right.
I was like I'm sorry who?
Graham (32:54):
did they?
Scott (32:55):
just hand that off to.
Graham (32:57):
In the red zone too, right, insane, I'm like Pretty
wild the way they played andeveryone's like oh, jalen Hurts,
has he injured the knee?
Blah, blah, blah.
Scott (33:13):
Look, obviously the two best teams are left right well,
you're talking about a team inthe Eagles that won 15 I think
of their last 16 and then you'retalking about a team the Chiefs
that lost one game this yearwith their starters in.
Yeah, yeah, the best two teamswon.
Graham (33:38):
I.
I mean I think there's still,there's still going to be some
bitterness from you know therematch, obviously, from a few
years ago.
I just look, it's still early.
We'll talk about our picks, youknow the following week, but I
don't know man, I just withPhilly's D for them only having
to rush four so they can keeptheir linebackers back, and the
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corners and safeties.
I mean I'm not saying they'reblowing them out, but I really
like their chances.
I mean I think it would stillbe a one-score game, but I mean.
Scott (34:10):
I don't know, like, as the Bills and chiefs are
wrapping up, last night I'm liketalking to Maddie.
I'm like all right, bills orchiefs, eagle Superbowl.
I'm like what do you think theline opens up at?
I'm like I'm going to go outthere and say Eagles land a
point and a half, and Maddie'slike I agree with that, maybe
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two game ends.
I get on draft Kings.
The exact opposite.
Graham (34:39):
Yeah, I was shocked but yeah, it's scripted, of course.
Here we go.
Scott (34:49):
I mean, you got the, the best roster on paper playing
against the best head coach,quarterback defensive
coordinator combo maybe of alltimes.
Graham (35:06):
Yeah.
Scott (35:07):
Okay, and as I say that, let's just jump right into it.
And, folks, it's been a longtime since your boys had a kick
rock moment and we're about toget it started, so let's get it
started.
Yeah, let's get it started,okay.
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Everybody that listens to usknows I'm a charter fan and
knows that I hate the chiefsmore than anything Okay, and
knows that I hate the Chiefsmore than anything okay.
But let's just go out and sayall you people out there blaming
the refs for the Chiefs beatingthe Bills last night understand
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a couple things.
The Bills were awful last night.
And let's just start from theirfirst possession, the first
possession of the game.
The Bills get the ball.
Awful possession.
They looked like they had noeffing clue what was going on.
Okay, and what happens?
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Three and out ball goes to theChiefs.
What do the Chiefs do?
90-yard drive, never faced athird down?
You're not.
It looked like andy reed had amonth to prepare for that game
because they picked the billsdefense apart.
They knew where the weaknesseswere and boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Let's go back to my room so wecan do it all night and we can
make you feel right.
Andy Reed said Sean McDermott,hold my beer.
Okay, you're like a man with noarms, you can't hang.
And the entire game was thesame goddamn way.
Okay, oh, for two.
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On two point conversions chasingpoints what do we always talk
about?
Don't chase points.
One for five on the tush pushjim nance is talking about.
Every time the bills do thetush push.
Which way does josh allen go,graham, to the left or to the
right, the left, if jim nancehello friends, knows that you
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don't think steve spagnolio orwhatever, however the fuck you
pronounce his name doesn't knowthat?
Hey, you got a six foot five,massive quarterback.
Hey, let's maybe run himoutside of a tackle.
You know why the tush pushworks so goddamn well for Jalen
Hurts?
Because he's five foot elevenand he gets under the line.
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You can't even see him.
So let's put a massive humanbeing and let's try to do the
Drew Brees and jump over theline.
Yeah, no, it don't work, josh,okay.
And yeah, the Bills fumbled theball four times.
They had a little black magicgoing.
They recovered all four.
Okay, could you imagine that,dude?
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Don't talk to me about this,don't talk to me about that.
Take away those two two-pointconversion failures.
Take extra point what happensat the end, exactly, and let's
just give credit where credit isdue, and I hate it because it's
the goddamn chiefs.
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But the defensive coordinator,genius spags, does my guy dial
up the most amazing blitzes ofall times and the most crucial
moments of every effing big gameand big moment of every game.
And we're not talking aboutalignment or a running back
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whiff on a blitz.
We're talking about dudes thathave a free lane.
Okay, wide ass open.
They're not even touched.
Okay, hey, bills, you do anyfilm review this week preparing
for that defense?
No, you were probably jumpingthrough goddamn chairs with your
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fans.
Oh, shut the bleep up, I mean.
Graham (39:14):
You know what no.
Scott (39:19):
I want the Bills.
Graham (39:19):
You threw an exotic blitz my guy calls exotic
blitzes for the last sevenfucking years, graham I'm aware
of that, but I'm just sayingthey didn't call that blitz all
game and they did a corner blitz, the last play of the game.
You know why?
I'm just saying it was savingit for that moment.
Scott (39:32):
I'm not I.
I I agree with you, but I'mjust saying it was even it for
that moment.
Graham (39:34):
I'm not I.
I I agree with you, but I'mjust going to say this you had
your kick.
Scott (39:39):
Look at the box score.
How even were all the stats?
They were right there.
He was out coached.
He was the chiefs.
I hate it.
I hate to say it.
They make plays when plays aresupposed to happen.
The bills I'll agree with thatAgain had the lead in the fourth
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quarter.
Granted, it was only one, butthe Bills' offense in the second
half was vanilla.
They were playing scared.
Josh Allen looked scared in hisfirst drive.
What are you?
talking about, Dude.
There's two minutes left in thegame, You're down by three and
you're fucking running the ball.
You got no timeouts.
They only needed a field goalto tie.
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Yeah, and that's the mentality.
That's the mentality, becauseyou're trying to fucking tie and
not trying to fucking win.
Graham (40:31):
I promise you they were trying to win.
Scott (40:33):
Yeah, win these nuts at Niagara Falls.
Okay, all right.
I mean I'm sorry for all theF-bombs everybody, but I'm sorry
McDermott, you're awful.
Josh Allen, you're still thegreatest tight end playing
quarterback in the league.
Your defense is garbage.
You know the Ravens would havebeaten the Chiefs.
Graham (40:54):
Not the way they played against the Bills.
I don't know, dude.
So everything that you justsaid, I'm going to throw the.
What you always like to say iswell, if my aunt had balls?
Scott (41:05):
No, is really what I'm going to say Right, you can say
that, no, just let me finish.
You had your time, hold on.
You're allowed to say that, butthere's no.
What if my aunt had my balls?
Spagnuolo, andy Reid, thinkabout this.
Graham (41:16):
A hundred percent.
Scott (41:19):
The Chiefs are about to do what no team has ever done in
the NFL, and that's win threeSuper Bowls in a row.
Pat Mahomes is about to be thefirst player in NFL history
under the age of 30 to have twoMVPs in how many rings Would be
(41:40):
four MVPs and how many ringswould be four?
And that is, they beat thebills, without Travis Kelsey
even being a factor in the game.
Graham (41:52):
You don't think the defense has something to do with
that?
Scott (41:56):
The bills give up the most yards to tight ends in the
league in the AFC.
Graham (42:05):
Yeah, but when they played them during the regular
seasons in Buffalo, what wasKelsey's yards?
Scott (42:09):
Not a lot, but Noah Gray, how many touchdowns did he have
?
Graham (42:13):
Okay, well, pick your poison.
When you're getting down tothese quality caliber of teams,
you're obviously going to havestuds all over the place.
Graham, I'm not disagreeingwith you, and we're also talking
about a first ballot hall offamer I'm not disagreeing with
you, I'm just saying right, I'mjust saying coaching decisions.
Scott (42:33):
I thought this was going to be the year the bills do it a
hundred percent.
Graham (42:38):
And let me tell you something the 30-yard bomb not
only should that, the fact thatthey don't call that an
interception number one, but two, the fact that they gave him
the catch when the ball hit thefucking ground should have not
even been a catch.
I don't, that's number one, Idon't disagree.
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I don't, that's number one, Idon't disagree.
Shouldn't even have been acatch.
But if you're going to call ita catch, the Buffalo guy had it
and then the ball hit the ground, but then somehow the receiver
for Kansas City still had moreof his hand on the ball after
they were already on the ground.
So they give it to Kansas City.
That's two things right there.
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Number two the fourth down.
Call the announcers.
But should I say, or the is itGene Steratore that's on CBS?
The former head official saidhands down, that should have
been a first down.
Not to mention if you looked atthe play, the line judge that
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was coming from the top, comingdown, had the ball and said it
was a first down.
But then the other line judgecomes in.
So that was when they were uptwo points and they were driving
in the fourth quarter.
If they get that and then takethe ball down the field, they're
up nine points.
That's a huge swing in the game.
Huge swing in the game.
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Huge swing in the game.
I'm not saying I disagree.
So that call literally changedthe outcome of the game.
There was six minutes left whenthat happened Huge.
So if you take another minuteand a half off the clock and
they score a touchdown, you'reup nine points with four minutes
left.
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Then, when Buffalo got the ballback and they scored and Kansas
City had to go down the field, Isaw on another just on YouTube,
the same situation wheresomething funny happened again,
where I don't know if it was CBSor what the deal was, but it
was a first down.
Kansas city has the ball,kermit almost gets sacked, but
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then he runs for three yards thenext drive.
So you would think, if he gotthree yards, what would it be?
Second and seven, the clock ornot?
Should I say the clock?
But cbs on the thing said firstand ten, and then they run the
ball.
But that play was the firstdown.
So I mean like I'm not sayingthat play itself meant anything,
but I'm just saying crazy shithappens.
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But to everything you just saidlook, did Kansas City play
better.
Yes, were the Bills on theirshit in the beginning.
No, kansas City is that team.
I get that.
But I'm just saying you can'thave plays with six minutes left
in the game where you make abad call and it affects it to
the point where the game can goeither way well, how about the
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super bowl we were just talkingabout, when the eagles played?
the chiefs that call determinedthe outcome of the game I don't
disagree with you, but thedifference between that call and
what happened against the Billsis this Technically, by the
rule, even though it was thelightest grab of all time, he
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technically did grab him.
Scott (45:53):
I'm just going to say this.
Graham (45:55):
Would they have called that during the regular season?
Absolutely not.
Scott (45:58):
I'm just going to say this.
And they had different coloredgloves on, so they could see it
Watching the Eagles yesterdaygoing into the game, the
Bills-Chiefs game.
All I can think is, yes, I wantthe Bills to win against the
Chiefs, but, my God, are theEagles going to lay the wood to
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the Bills if this happens?
And that's, the Bills'offensive firepower can't even
match up.
Graham (46:27):
Yeah, but you say that, and it was a three-point game.
Scott (46:30):
The Bills' defense couldn't hang with the Eagles.
Graham (46:34):
I get what you're saying , but you make it sound like the
game was so lopsided.
Scott (46:38):
It was three points.
I know that.
What games have the Chiefsblown people out in this year?
They only beat the goddangPanthers by three.
Graham (46:49):
Yeah, you ain't wrong.
Scott (46:53):
I'm just saying.
A lot of casual fans out thereare bitter about the matchup in
the Super Bowl.
Oh, we got to see the Chiefsagain, and me as a Chargers fan
as much as I hate the Chiefs,people out there need to
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understand.
We're seeing some wild crazyhistory shit going on right now.
Graham (47:21):
Oh I.
Scott (47:22):
Yeah, and I hate it, but.
Graham (47:27):
Dude.
Nate Burleson said the samething in the postgame the
greatest you know on CBS, thegreatest thing.
Scott (47:33):
He said the same thing, the greatest thing the Chiefs
have done in the last you know.
Just go back a couple years,remember when Mahomes was
throwing for 35-plus tutties ayear, and now they're a
defensive team.
The greatest thing the Chiefshave done in my mind was let
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Tyreek Hill go so they couldre-sign Jones.
Yeah.
I mean.
Graham (48:03):
Hey, offense wins, but you can't win with defense.
You have to have defense, youhave to have defense.
Scott (48:09):
And hey, bills, how'd that work out, trading with the
Chiefs so they could get worthy?
Graham (48:15):
They liked Coleman better than worthy.
Scott (48:18):
How'd that work out?
Coleman had one grab forwhatever yesterday Tomato,
tomato, I know, I know, I know,I know.
Graham (48:27):
Worthy as a gadget player.
Scott (48:30):
For now.
He started out the year as agadget player taking these
reverses and stuff, but heactually turned into a player
that makes plays.
Graham (48:41):
I won't disagree with you, but he actually turned into
a player that makes plays.
I won't disagree with you.
I mean, look, they're a solid,all-around team.
I mean that's why they're thebest team in the league.
Scott (48:56):
Something I heard today and I wanted to ask you this
Belichick has what?
Six rings?
Yeah, andy Reid has what?
Three.
Yeah, what three.
Yeah, three going first.
Fourth if you, if the wayfootball and the rules are right
now okay, we're the way, we'rethat way back in Belichick 6,
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belichick has four rings, andyReid has an extra couple Because
the rules obviously now favorwhat the offense?
Right, yeah, it's a crazy one,right, it's crazy.
Graham (49:38):
Yeah, but still not that there's an asterisk that needs
to be made.
No, I'm just saying when yougot tom brady, it's like you
know, when you have two.
Scott (49:46):
I mean we're talking about quarter coaches that have
the two greatest quarterbacks ofall time well, let's, let's,
don't forget montana um, I thinkmontana would say if I, I don't
disagree I mean mahomes isabout to have four rings under
the age of 30.
Brady had seven and playeduntil he was what?
How old 42-ish?
Graham (50:09):
I don't know.
Yeah, and Mahomes hasn't lostin the Super Bowl, right,
they've won all of them.
Scott (50:14):
No, they lost two Brady.
Oh yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Graham (50:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, his first one, their first Super.
Scott (50:24):
Bowl, Because that was the one when they played Tampa.
No, they won the first one,they beat the Niners and then
they lost to Tampa.
Graham (50:29):
Okay yeah, you're right, you're right.
Scott (50:32):
But he could have four dude before he was 30 years old.
Yeah, and you know, on Vissen,today, after Kermit won his
first, okay, Circa Sportsbookhad set the number up over one
and a half for Kermit at plus350.
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For his career.
Graham (50:57):
That's a bet I wish I knew about.
Scott (50:58):
I mean, you're talking about a dude, that's I think
that lasted.
What a year I mean yeah, you'retalking about a dude that's
never not gone to the AFCChampionship game In his career.
Graham (51:09):
That's insane.
Scott (51:11):
He lost a.
Graham (51:12):
Well, when you're always the number one seed no, not
last year.
Scott (51:15):
You only need to win one game, not last year they had to
go on the road Buffalo andBaltimore.
Yeah, I mean, it's wild.
And don't forget, they gothomeboy Rice coming back next
year.
Graham (51:29):
It's wild.
They still got Hollywood Brown.
Why would you need Rice withthe way Worthy is playing?
And then Because they're stillon All that drama.
They're still rookie contracts.
No, I mean.
I get all that.
I'm just saying yeah, but theyalso pushed his court date back
with everything.
I don't even know how he hasn'teven been suspended, yet so.
(51:52):
I'm not even projecting himeven to be on the team.
Scott (51:56):
So the matchup literally has been set for less than 24
hours.
We already heard you think theEagles cover minus one and a
half.
You told me you're taking them.
You know money line what wasmoney line Plus 120?
Graham (52:15):
Something like that.
Right, yeah, plus 120.
Is plus 115 or plus 120?
Yeah, I think it's plus 115.
Okay, I don't know, I thinkit's plus 115.
Okay, I don't know, I'm kind ofliking the over too.
What is that?
Do you know?
48 and a half.
Scott (52:31):
Both teams' defenses are solid.
I hope it goes over so we don'thave a 19-16 game or something
like that 19-16 game orsomething like that With Saquon.
Graham (52:44):
I just With who I think the MVP should be.
He just brings such a dynamicto them, even like he didn't
even really catch the ballyesterday.
Scott (52:55):
Yeah, he's not going to be able to run.
I mean I'm not saying he's notgoing to be able to run the ball
.
Graham (53:00):
He's not going to be able to gash teams like he has
against the Chiefs All right, sookay, then let me ask you this
question, Obviously because ofthe poorest defensive line that
the Commanders have, the propfor his rushing was one, hey
Payne, best defensive lineman onthe Commanders.
Scott (53:21):
I'm sorry.
Why did you miss the gameyesterday?
Your finger injury?
Oh, I'm sorry, thumb, whatYou're a defensive lineman
Aren't you supposed to be?
Do you know how?
Graham (53:33):
important your thumb is.
Scott (53:34):
Aren't you supposed to be a big badass?
Tape it up, cast it up.
Let's go Fuck your thumb.
I remember Marcus McNeil,rookie left tackle for the
Chargers, had two brokenforearms, and is out there
playing with two casts.
Okay, screw your thumb.
Stick it up your ass.
Okay, it's the biggest game ofyour life.
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It's the NFC Championship game.
Remember when the Packersplayed the Bears in the NFC
Championship game?
Remember when the Packersplayed the Bears in the NFC
Championship game and Jay Cutlerhad a little finger issue?
Oh, you're quarterback.
Oh, I'm going to go sit on thesideline.
My non-throwing hand yeah, youand Jay Cutler just got
mentioned in the same sentence.
Okay, hockey dudes, take askate to the face and get 40
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stitches and come out in thenext period.
And you're worried about yourlittle piddly thumb?
Oh, what do you want to know?
You want to know a little sugartitty.
I mean, get out of here, bro.
I mean, come on.
If I'm a commander fan and Ihave your Jersey, you're dead to
me.
Graham (54:40):
Put your sugar titties away.
All right, biggest game of.
Scott (54:42):
I have your jersey.
You're dead to me.
Put your sugar titties away,all right, biggest game of your
career and your thumb hurts.
So you're going to go cry tothe doctor.
Kick rocks, get the F out ofhere.
I would give my left nut Grahamwould give his left nut to be
out on the field getting paidwhat you get paid to be playing
in a game like this and you'reworried about a fucking thumb
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injury.
And, by the way, thisdefinitely leads the over under
on f bombs by your boy tonightI'm just.
Graham (55:11):
Well, you definitely have the better chance of
playing d tackle than I do, soI'm just saying dude, like
seriously I feel you.
Anyway, to my point, theover-under was like 135.5
rushing yards for Saquon becauseof that D-line.
What do you think hisover-under for yardage now
(55:34):
against the KC D-line?
Scott (55:37):
Is it already out there?
Do you know the answer?
Graham (55:40):
I have no idea.
Scott (55:40):
Oh, I thought you.
Graham (55:42):
I mean, I just thought of this on the spot.
Scott (55:45):
I will tell you this Anybody that's betting whatever
Pacheco's yardage is in theSuper Bowl, bet the under.
Graham (55:54):
Dude, I'm so happy I did .
I wish I would have done itfirst TD, but I did Kareem Hunt
anytime touchdown.
He got that first one.
I was like let's go.
Scott (56:03):
I also say whatever Kareem Hunt rushing attempts is,
bet the over.
I know right, let's see Rushing.
I'm looking at it right now,rushing props, because I'm
looking too.
120 plus is plus 100.
Graham (56:19):
No, but what's his specifically?
Let's see.
Scott (56:26):
Over 116.5.
Graham (56:28):
Wow, I got it for 123.5.
And by smack myself I got it at113.5.
Sorry.
Scott (56:39):
Pacheco is 22.5.
Betacheco Pacheco is 22 and ahalf.
Bet that under Dude.
Graham (56:44):
What Kareem Hunt's rushing attempts is 11 and a
half.
Take it At plus 100.
Take it, hmm.
Well, we can talk more aboutthat, but we'll just save that
for next week's episode, becauseit's pretty much going to be
all about bets.
Scott (57:02):
But before we even go just got to throw this out there
.
Anybody notice at what time theCowboys head coach was
announced on Friday, 1030Eastern.
Graham (57:20):
Who Michael Irvin is heated.30 Eastern who Michael
Irvin is heated he is.
I will say this as someone thathas distaste for the Cowboys.
I'm just laughing.
This just makes me so happy.
Scott (57:34):
I mean, if it wasn't for the Giants and their bullshit
going on over there in theirfranchise, how do you think the
Cowboys feel right now?
Everybody called the NFC Eastthe NFC least and they had two
teams in the NFC Championshipgame and we all know the Eagles
(57:57):
are awesome, obviously, playingin the Super Bowl and the
Commanders advanced to the NFCChampionship game and they've
had the third most cap spaceamazing quarterback Cowboys, wow
.
Graham (58:13):
Well, it's what happens when you have a GM that knows
what the hell he's doing.
Scott (58:18):
You mean not an 80-year-old ownererry jones that
is literally doing the exactsame thing as al davis at the
end of his life for the raiders,yeah, but at least jerry jones
didn't pick people just becausethey were the fastest person at
the combine.
Graham (58:36):
I mean just saying speaking of the raiders, pete
carroll I liked in his PESconference where he basically
says you know we need to bringback.
He's like we need to fill thesestadiums with our fans and I'm
like good luck with that.
Scott (58:50):
Good luck in Vegas, bro.
I thought something you wouldlike is the rumor of Russell
Wilson going to the Raiders.
Graham (58:59):
Bro, there's so many things that need to happen with
Pittsburgh right now.
That's a whole other topic ofconversation we can get into
next week.
Yeah, it is so.
That being said, scott, it'sbeen a pleasure doing the
podcast with you.
Love you to death.
I'm glad you had a great time.
I hate the fact that you saidyou're going to be a
pseudo-Eagles fan.
Now Eat a dick.
(59:19):
Wait a minute.
Scott (59:21):
I didn't say I was going to.
I said I would pull for them.
Graham (59:25):
I know I'm just messing with you.
Anyway, as the best friendalways says, boo-bye.
Scott (59:34):
Good night friends.
Good night Buffalo.
Enjoy your window being closing.
Hope you have bruises on yourass for jumping through those
tables.
Graham (59:46):
Booba.
Announcer (59:54):
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