Survivor Sweats and Walk-off Wins

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Recorded October 12th, 2025

A 15-inning nail-biter, a walk-off kick, and a quarterback lighting a match at the podium—this sports weekend had everything, and we dive straight into the fire. We open with the Tigers–Mariners marathon that played like playoff OT hockey, then flip to the Cubs–Brewers duel where one mistake decided months of work. From there, it’s live reactions to Chiefs–Lions and the familiar ache of spreads that should have been safe and somehow weren’t.

The center of gravity lands in Miami. Short-handed up front, the Chargers built a plan around quick game and discipline, asked Justin Herbert to be surgical, and trusted Dicker the Kicker to end it. We break down how you beat a pass rush without a healthy line, why red zone execution still separates contenders, and what it looks like when composure wins more than talent. Keenan Allen gets his due as a timeless chain-mover whose HOF case rests on trust, technique, and production across quarterbacks.

College football throws haymakers: Penn State’s slide forces the hard questions about buyouts, rivalry standards, and whether NIL plus the portal has turned upsets into scheduled events. Meanwhile, the NFC shuffles under injury weight—Tampa’s steadier than you think, the 49ers are absorbing body shots, and the JSN breakout in Seattle reshapes the West. We also confront the bottom: negative net passing yards in today’s NFL, and how an offense resets when confidence tanks.

Then leadership takes the mic. Tua’s postgame comments spark a heated debate on accountability versus undermining, what a QB should shoulder publicly, and how culture survives stress. Layer in our Survivor strategy—forecasting injuries, dodging divisional traps, picking your spots—and you’ve got a blueprint for riding chaos without letting it ride you.

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Episode Transcript

Announcer (00:06):
Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the
Bench Podcast with your hostsGraham Cohen and Scott Wasco.

Graham (00:21):
What's up everyone?
Welcome back to another episodeof The Bald Guys on the Bench.
Scotty, week six, brother.
Excited?

Scott (00:29):
Yeah.
I mean, it's Sunday night.
We're watching the Chiefs andthe Lions.
We just witnessed some dude gethosed out of 450 grand on some
bet with Jared Goff being thefirst touchdown scorer.
Uh we're in the third quarter.
We're watching the ALCS gameone.
Your boys got the dub.

(00:52):
My boys got the dub.
And we'll talk about that in alittle while.
But let's, you know what timeit is?
We're talking sports.
It's time to grab it and crackit.
Let's go.
And for all of our Instagramfans out there, you're welcome
for that Instagram post lastnight.
Because, dude, the boy hadevery god dang screen in the

(01:16):
house playing.
Dude.
It was it was wild.
I mean, I'm watching football,I'm watching hockey.
It's like, my God, YouTube TVgoes, Oh, you got too many
screens going.
I'm like, thank God the nightsare on ESPN Plus.
They ain't got to use YouTubeTV for that.

Graham (01:35):
Right.

Scott (01:36):
Dude.

Graham (01:38):
Hey, all I'll say to that is it must be nice when uh
when the fam's out of town andthe kids somewhere else, you had
the ability to actually dothat.
But hey, let's grab it andcrack it.

Scott (01:48):
I just cracked it.

Graham (01:49):
Oh well, I'm late to the party.

Scott (01:50):
Oh, good.
You're always late to theparty.
It's okay.
But yeah.
How's your weekend?
What'd you do?
I know it was Mama Cohen'sbirthday, so happy birthday,
Mama Cohen.
I guess it was Arizona for youknow some dinner.

Graham (02:07):
Yeah.
A nice little change.
Mom wanted to uh instead ofgoing to the usual spots that we
go to around here in Vegas,wanted to switch it up.
So we went, we drove down toKingsman, Arizona, which is
right off the 40.
It's about, if my knowledge iscorrect, it's about 45 minutes
an hour from where Lake Havasuis or Havasu City area.

(02:31):
But uh it was nice, pretty easydrive.
We went to go down there onFriday night, which was her
actual birthday, but dude, itstarted like a little bit of
rain, a little bit of rain, andthen all of a sudden, bro, I
could barely see 10 feet infront of me in the car while I
was driving.
It was downpouring here inVegas.

(02:52):
And we pulled up the map, and Iwas just like, yeah, with all
this rain and plus drivingthrough the desert and it was
raining there, I'm like, nah.
I talked to Miles, like, youstill want to do this?
I mean, she's like, Well, is itsafe?
And I'm like, Yeah, but betweenthe traffic, everyone going
slow, we might not make thereservation in time.
She's like, All right, well,let me call them.
Let's make a reservation fortomorrow night.

(03:13):
So we turned around and went toanother place and had a really
good, had a really good dinner.
And then so on Saturday we madeup for it and drove down there
and had a nice time.
Nice leisure drive down theroad.
It was pretty good.
Um, so happy about that.
Uh, the only other thing thatwas really of note besides
watching, you know, the variousdifferent sports, mainly, and

(03:34):
I'm actually surprised you'regonna hear me say this, but one
of the better games of any sportthat I've seen in a long time
was actually a baseball game.

Scott (03:46):
Dude, it might have been one of the best baseball games
I've ever watched.
Right.
I I mean dude, the game startedat eight o'clock Friday night.
Yeah.
Okay, eight o'clock.
You called me when you got homefrom dinner at like 11.
We're still watching the gameat one something.

(04:08):
Yeah.
15 innings.
Yeah.
And remember, I told you theworst part about this, they
stopped serving alcohol afterthe seventh inning stretch.

Graham (04:20):
Yeah.

Scott (04:22):
Dude, and I'm talking to TP at the same time, texting
back and forth.
He goes, dude, I really hopethey do the second seventh
inning stretch in the 14thinning.
And they did.

Graham (04:33):
Yeah.

Scott (04:34):
It was hilarious.
Yeah.
Dude, amazing game, do or diegame.
I mean, it sucked that somebodyhad to lose.
Because it was intense, it wasfun, it was awesome to watch.
The the the thing that stillboggles my mind to this instant.
The total for that game wasfive and a half runs.

(04:57):
Okay, this game went 15 inningsand still the under hit at
five.

Graham (05:07):
Not to mention how many hits each team got, let alone
runners left on base.

Scott (05:15):
Yes, dude.
Insane.
And like I'm looking at thegame when I get home.
You know, you you said itearlier.
The family went out of town.
My wife and daughter went to uhDallas for our Kristen's
grandma's 94th birthday.
Oh wow.
Kellen spent the night with hisbuddy Friday night, and because

(05:36):
I had to work on Saturday.
But dude, I'm looking at thelines and everything.
Scooby roll, we all know,amazing pitcher for the Tigers.
Dude, his over-under strikeoutseight and a half minus 170.
What?
Dude, like I hits 13.

Graham (05:54):
Yeah.

Scott (05:55):
An amazing game, dude.
Absolutely amazing.
Like, couldn't believe it.

Graham (06:02):
We were talking about it.
Like, by the time I got backand I started watching, it was
the eighth inning.
Then the extra innings weregoing on.
Dude, the 10th, the 11th, the12th.
We're talking back and forth,and you said it to me, bro.
That actually felt like aplayoff hockey game.
Like a game seven, everythingwas on the line, both teams

(06:24):
using pretty much their entirebullpen.
Like it got to a point likethey're putting out starters.
Yeah.

Scott (06:30):
Starting pitchers were coming in the game.
And at some point during thegame, Scott Van Pelt throws out
a tweet and he goes, I go backand forth of what has more
tension playoff baseball orovertime and playoff hockey.
This Tigers Mariners game hasbeen like overtime ceiling
playoffs for three hours.

Graham (06:51):
Yeah.
Insane.

Scott (06:53):
I mean, rare.
I didn't have a dog in thefight.
I didn't care who won.
Facts.
I mean, but dude, it wasinsane.
Oh, dude, and as we're sittinghere talking, Toronto comes up
in the first inning tonight,hits a bomb.
Seattle's winning right now onthe top of the eight, three to
one.
Wow.
Yeah.
Didn't see that happening.

(07:15):
You know?
I told you last night, TorontoDodgers in the World Series.
Yeah.
Well, dude, Seattle.
Momentum, I guess.
I don't know.

Graham (07:27):
As they say, the tale of two games for as amazing as
that Detroit Mariner series was.
We also had another game fivebetween the Brewers.
Yeah, and the Cubbies.
Also, I mean, uh, but thatwould just have a it was, but
it's just a completely differentfeel.
I mean, it was the pitcher'sduel.
There wasn't as many hits, andyou're just like, oh, okay, this

(07:50):
is cool, but just it gets to apoint where it's just like, all
right, who makes a mistake?
And that's yeah, to be honest,that's kind of how the game
ended, really.
Was unforced error.
Not unforced error, but no,actually.

Scott (08:04):
It was a good game, dude.
I mean, the Cubs took the leadearly, then the Brewers tied it
up, and that was the end.
You know.
I was, you know, no offense,Badger.
You don't listen anyway.
But I was pulling for the Cubsbecause I thought the Cubs were
the only chance to be theDodgers.
And not only that, but theworld would love to see the Cubs

(08:29):
and the Dodgers.

Graham (08:30):
Facts.

Scott (08:31):
You know, I mean, who gets better ratings?
The Cubbies or the Brewers?
We already know the answer tothat.
But oh, that's a tuddy,Laporta.
Let's go.
What a catch.
Let's go, Sammy.
How?
Wow.
Let's go.

(08:53):
Um put dude.
We got Dodgers Brewer startingtomorrow night.
We got Bouge Mariners tonight.

Graham (09:02):
Did you just watch the replay of that catch?

Scott (09:04):
That was stupid.

Graham (09:06):
The defender had his hand inside both arms of Laporta
catching it.

Scott (09:12):
But it's a it's a chief, so there's no flag called.
What the f I mean if if thatwas a uh we just wait for the
you know illegal formation herethree minutes after the
touchdown, like in the firstquarter when Goff caught the
touchdown.
Let's just wait for it.
Oh no, we're just gonna waitfor Harrison Butker to miss a
goddamn extra point.
And your boy to miss overpoints for the Chiefs in the

(09:36):
first half.
Thanks, Harrison Butker.
Half a point.
Suck my butt current ass hat.
Uh anyhow, dude.
College football yesterdaydidn't disappoint.
A lot of weird upsets.

Graham (09:51):
Yeah.

Scott (09:52):
You know, I mean, dude, let's just kick it off.
I mean, I'm not trying to dogyou, but you're happy it
happened.
Penn State loses their thirdstraight game, lost their
quarterback for the season, andFranklin gets fired today.
48, 49 million dollar buyout.
And before you go on your rant,dude, we're why in two weeks?

Graham (10:16):
Yeah.

Scott (10:17):
Penn State is a top five team, lost to another top five
team in Oregon in overtime.

Graham (10:23):
Yeah.

Scott (10:24):
And had an opportunity to win that game.

Graham (10:27):
Yeah.

Scott (10:28):
And then they go on the road, lose to UCLA, who's a
24-point underdog.
Then lose to Northwesternyesterday, 20 plus point
underdog.

Announcer (10:40):
Yeah.

Graham (10:45):
It's you know, something that we like to see on this
show is hashtag make it makesense.
Um I I just, you know, uh,after what they did last year,
and by they I mean Penn Stateand all the excitement, and you
know, Drew Eller coming back foranother season, which I like

(11:09):
how they said coming back.
I'm like, the dude looks 16years old.
Like, what do you mean comeback?
Like, he should have a few moreyears of eligibility, but
that's here nor there.
Uh, you know, they didn't lookgood even in the games that they
won.
The Oregon game was close, waskind of a sloppy game, being

(11:29):
honest.
But the UCLA game, I I whatit's almost worse than you know,
times when I talk about myteam, the Pittsburgh Steelers,
where they're by far the betterteam, and then they play a
weaker caliber team, and theyjust play down to the
competition.
Like, I just don't the defensewas just like, what do we do?

(11:53):
What's going on?
I mean, I mean, credit wherecredit's due, UCLA played the
game of their year.
I mean, their quarterback whois uh who was a uh I don't want
to say a Heisman finalist, but Imean he's a top quarterback
prospect in the draft, you know,transferred from Tennessee last
year.
So I mean, he had a couple keyplays on third downs that just

(12:16):
broke our the back of thedefense.
I mean, a couple huge likethird down running conversions
that just it was one of those ifit can happen, it happened type
of a thing in in a negativeway, you know.
The Murphy's Law type of thing.

Scott (12:31):
Funny thing, I'm just looking on Twitter and beating
the book, you reposted thistrending sources confirmed that
Penn State would likely beinterested in hiring Nick Sabin
as their next head coach shouldhe come out of retirement.
Beating the bookie goes, yougot a better chance Sandusky is
named the new head coach thanthat.

Graham (12:48):
Shut up.

Scott (12:54):
Hey, but not to dog Franklin.
I saw something earlier thelast three years.
There's only like three headcoaches that have more wins than
Franklin at Penn State.
It's Ryan Day, Kirby Smart, Iforget the dude in Oregon.
So the guy's won games.
He just hasn't won the biggames.

Graham (13:14):
So let me ask you a question.
If you are Ohio State orMichigan, if you win 88% of your
games, but you can't beat theother two schools, do you last
more than three years?

Scott (13:27):
Well, that's the difference to Michigan and Ohio
State.
If you don't beat Ohio State,you don't beat Michigan.
That's what you're judged on.

Graham (13:37):
I understand that, but for a period of time, I mean, if
you talk to people inPennsylvania, I mean, people
also consider Penn State arival.
I mean, it's not the same,obviously, as Ohio State,
Michigan.
I get that.
It's not, I mean, there are anotable I you know, their

(14:00):
rivalry, it is what it is.

Scott (14:02):
That being the best rivalry in college football.

Graham (14:05):
Yeah.
I mean, I I get it.
So I I mean, I'm not sayingPenn State with their rivalries
between those two schoolsindividually are not big as
well.
They are, they're just not asbig.
And that being said, it's like,all right, yeah, Franklin, you
won a lot of games.
That's great.
But what's the point of winningeight, nine games if you don't

(14:26):
make a bowl?
Or you like, okay, you made thebowl games in the in the
previous year.
So for the class.

Scott (14:31):
Oh, what's wrong, Kermit?
Hutchinson knocked you on yourass.
Oh, that's a bullshit penaltyright there.
Come on, dude.
Aiden Hutchinson just hitKermit and his ugly ass wife,
Brittany Mahomes, and in thenext year, and then he gets a
pass.
I mean, come on, bro.

(14:52):
Come on.
Somebody knocked XavierWorthy's ass out, too.
Anyhow, dude, the Penn Statebeating the bookie, and I looked
at it.
Penn State's next head coachgets it gets this joke of a
schedule next year.
Okay.
Uh Marshall at home, at Temple,at Buffalo, at Maryland, at

(15:18):
Michigan, that's a loss, atNorthwestern, Minnesota at home,
Purdue at home, Rutgers athome, USC at home, Wisconsin at
home, at Washington.

Graham (15:31):
Uh, I'm sorry, didn't USC beat the bricks off
Michigan?
Yeah, they didn't.

Scott (15:36):
Okay.
They did, but they're a littlebit better than UCLA.
And Northwestern.
Well, when you're starting whenyour quarterback goes down, I
mean, they're they don't have atop five Heisman candidate,
number one in the NIL.
Like Penn State.

(15:57):
I mean, I'm just saying, I'mjust throwing that out there.

Graham (16:00):
Yeah, you're right.
They only have the number oneprospect that they paid $10
million a year to go to theirschool.
You're right.

Scott (16:06):
Yeah, and he's 18 years old.

Graham (16:09):
Versus 19 or 20?
Like Julie, Eller's not, orwhat Ellers, he's not 20 years
old.
Like, I mean, he could be.
I just don't think he is.
I don't know.

Scott (16:20):
But moving right on, dude, something that I did not
see coming.
College game day yesterday wasin Oregon for the Oregon Indiana
game.
Yeah.
Never saw that coming.
Indiana wins by 10.

Graham (16:37):
You know who called it on game day?
Yeah, McAfee.
Everyone took Oregon exceptMcAfee.
And you know why?
Why?
Because his wife's a Hoosier.

Scott (16:50):
All right.
I like it.
Dude, did you see their headcoach, Indiana's head coach?
What's his name?
Signetti or whatever.

Announcer (16:58):
Yeah.

Scott (16:58):
You know, he was from he was the head coach at JMU and
took all his players to Indianawhen he got the job.

Graham (17:04):
Yeah.

Scott (17:06):
Halftime running off the field.
The reporter goes, So how doyou think you played in the
first half?
What an asshat.
Literally yells at thisreporter.
How do you think we did?
Well, that wasn't the question.
I'm asking you the question.
Don't ask me.

Graham (17:24):
Yeah, right.
Dude.
Right?
I hey.
When's the last time you canremember Indiana besides the
last two years being relevant?
They haven't.
It's basketball, bro.
No, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
What he's doing for thatprogram is unbelievable.
Also I agree.
NIL helps.

(17:45):
So I'm just you know, I mean,for me personally, one of the
more bigger upsets was how aboutlet's give it up for the Pitt
Panthers going down to FloridaState and waxing that ass.
Boy.

Scott (17:58):
Another dude about to get fired with a $50 million
buyout.
Oof.
Jeez.
If you like buyouts, oof.
I'd love to get fired and getpaid $49 million.
God bless.

Graham (18:12):
Yeah, I'm I'm watching the Steeler game with my dad
earlier, and the you know thethe news popped on his phone.
He's like, wow, he's like,Franklin got fired.
They're buying him out for you.
He's like, but if you gotfired, why are you paying them
that money?
And I was like, Dad, it's acontract.
If they let you go, yeah.
Like they gotta pay you out.

Scott (18:32):
You know what Kirby Smart's buyout is at Georgia?

Announcer (18:38):
A hundred?
Exactly.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh my god.

Graham (18:44):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, what's his recordthe last five years?

Scott (18:49):
It's pretty good unless you're playing Bama.

Graham (18:52):
Still.
In five years, he's lost fivegames.
Yeah, and four of them are toBama.
Three of which were in the SECChampionship.

Scott (19:03):
Speaking of Georgia, oh my god, they only had like eight
yards of offense yesterday inthe first half.
Did you see the controversialplay when they said he was
calling timeout, but he reallysaid he was clapping his hands?

Graham (19:16):
No.

Scott (19:17):
Oh, dude, it's crazy.
It's nuts.
Please hold them to three.
Come on, please.
Break his face.
There's a touchdown.
Easy tutty to Hollywood Brown.

Graham (19:31):
Second of the day.
Yep.
That's awesome.
You were on my team, and then Isaid, boom-ba.

Scott (19:37):
Yeah.
But dude, I mean, like wetalked about earlier, Michigan
got boat raised by USC.
Why are you giving the finger?

Graham (19:47):
No, that wasn't to you.
That was to the team.
That was to the screen.
That was to Kansas City.
That wasn't to you.

Scott (19:55):
Yeah.
Dude, Michigan got beat by USC.
Uh, what else happenedyesterday?
Um, Old Dominion, dude,14-point favorite.
Getting getting votes for thetop 25, lost by 14, I think.
Something like that.

Graham (20:12):
You've been hyping them up to me all year.
I know.
All year.
And that's like, hey, I need alittle action to add to this
parlay.
I'm like, what do you thinkabout ODU?

Scott (20:22):
Yeah, but that wasn't the only reason you lost your
parlay.

Graham (20:25):
No, no, no, no, no.
No.

Scott (20:30):
I mean.
I think it was.
It was not.
Was not.
But, you know, somebody with alittle old dominion history,
Bobby Wilder, we always talkabout on the show.
Uh, now the head coach ofTennessee Tech in his second
year, they won yesterday to go6-0.

(20:51):
And Bobby got his 90th DivisionI career win.
Wow.
Let's go yesterday.
90th.
That's pretty good.
Is that any good?
Is that any good?
If I'm Virginia Tech afterfiring my head coach, I'm
calling Bobby.

(21:12):
That's a step up.
Got ties to the area.
Dude.

Graham (21:18):
How far are you from VT?

Scott (21:21):
About four and a half hours.

Graham (21:23):
Yeah.

Scott (21:24):
Yeah.
And the Virginia tech coachthat got just got fired was the
old defensive coordinator fromPenn State.
Yeah.
We've talked about that.
And old Dominions head coach,Ricky Ronnie, was the offensive
coordinator at Penn State.
Yeah.
Dude, if I'm Virginia Tech, I'mcalling Bobby.
Look what he's done to thatfranchise, to that school.
They were last place.

(21:45):
He takes over, ties for thechampionship in the conference.

Graham (21:50):
Yeah.

Scott (21:50):
Agreed.
6-0, year two.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Uh, you know, we gotta talkabout it because it's something
you and I always talk about.
Survivor, bro.
Survivor Leagues.
I've only been in it.

(22:10):
This is my second year doingit, and I was all about fantasy.
And like I've mentioned on theshow before, probably last year,
survivors are more stressfulthan fantasy, right?
Because fantasy, you're you'reyou know, you're starting this
guy, you're starting that guy.
It's all this and that'sinjuries.
But survivor, like Eminem says,you got one shot.

Graham (22:36):
Yeah.

Scott (22:38):
You are not wrong.
Dude, how many times you changeyour mind?

Graham (22:46):
Uh the strategy involved in Survivor is insane.
There's a lot of blind luck.
Yes.
I would say a lot.

Announcer (22:56):
Oh, a little.

Scott (22:57):
A little.
I mean, just talk to the 75% ofthe nation that lost last week
with the Rams and then theEagles on Thursday night.

Graham (23:05):
Yeah.

Scott (23:06):
And sorry, I forgot.
The Cardinals last week againstthe Titans.
Bro, dude.
I love that you and I talkedlast night, and we were just
like, we were going with oneteam, and then we were like, you
know what?
F it.
We're rolling with your boys,Graham.
Steelers, Browns, we're doingit.

(23:27):
Yeah.
And watching the beginning ofthat game, I was like, God damn,
somebody score a touchdownhere.
I mean, hey, Boswell, I likeyou, bro, but uh, I don't want
to see your ass on the fieldunless it's a fucking extra
point.
Like, damn it, crickets, man.
I wasn't as nervous as youwere, but I wasn't nervous.

(23:47):
You guys had that game in handthe entire fucking game.
Yeah.
But I'd still like to see somefucking touchdowns.
Hey, second half, Rogers, DK,let's go.

Graham (23:59):
I I mean, look, the Browns, well, uh, divisional
games are divisional games.
And folks, you know what I meanby that.
Like it records you can almostthrow out the window, right?
Each team knows each other verywell.
And plus in the AFC North,everyone knows that smash mouth

(24:21):
football.
And look, the Browns, eventhough they're one and five now,
one and four prior to thestart, they have a great
defense.
Like the defense keeps them inthe game.
Let's be real.
And thank God they they didn'tstop them on that last drive
because I took uh the Raven, notthe I'm sorry, smack myself,

(24:45):
the Vikings last week.
They should have beat theVikings.
100% should have been theVikings.
So they really should have beentwo and three going into this
game.
So, you know, they just look,if you don't have a capable
starting quarterback in thisleague and then weapons around

(25:08):
him, it's hard to win games.
I mean, look, even in theSteeler game, there were a
couple plays that if thereceivers caught the ball, the
the game would have been alittle different.
You know, third third downwould have been extended a
couple of times, uh, and itwould have, you know, flipped
field.
Uh and look, every play mattersin the NFL.

(25:31):
It's crazy to think that, butevery play means something.
And you know, just watching thegame, it was just one of those
bend but don't break type ofsituations.
So uh, what's going on?
Golf just got sacked.
No, that is not what we needed.

(25:52):
But I will say this that gamefor the Steelers, there was a
lot of positives.
One, I was surprised that JerryPorter came back, which was
nice.
We haven't had him for a fewgames.
Dude, Nick Herbig for being asecond-year player to uh out

(26:13):
Wisconsin guy, man, two sackslooked amazing out there.
Jalen Ramsey, amazing, had asack.
I can't believe he even played.
He had a hamstring injury aweek and a half ago.
Talk about a perfect timing forthe bye or two weeks ago, you
know, perfect time.

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Like I thought he was gonna beout this week and maybe even
next Thursday when we gotta playthe Bengals.
So to see him out there andplaying was nice, but I also
appreciated how Jalen Warren wasback, the offensive line looked
good.

Scott (26:50):
I mean Dude, Jalen Warren didn't do shit.

Graham (26:53):
Statistically, no.
He gave you 53 or 55.
Fantasy-wise, no, it wasn't agreat effort.

Scott (27:00):
Gabriel had a better game.

Graham (27:02):
What do you mean?

Scott (27:04):
I don't know.
I'll tell you right now.
Gabriel had a better game.
Then who?
Rogers?
Then Warren.
Then Warren.
Gabriel.

Graham (27:12):
Gabriel's the quarterback.
Yeah, you're or sorry,Gainwell.
Gainwell.
I was like, who are you talkingabout?
Same difference, dude.
Uh a quarterback for the Brownsversus the running back for the
Steelers?
I think that's a slap yourself.

Scott (27:25):
Gainwell, Gainwell only had six for 22.

Graham (27:29):
My point is, because you know, Miles Miles Garrett is a
beast, they ran heavy a lot.
You know, they brought inWashington, the tight end,
played a lot, played a lot onthe line, and the O-line looked
pretty good today.
I was very happy how they ranthe ball.
Um passing was a little in thefirst half, but in the second

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half, they hit DK on a coupleplays.
And the thing is, now Rogers, Iwouldn't say now Rogers
realizes, but it's just like,hey, you got to get DK involved.
Like there was a few plays youcould tell he was forcing on the
ball.
You know, you have to get himopen and you have to get him to
stretch the field to open up themiddle of the field.
And that's what happened.

(28:11):
So I was happy with how theyplayed.
Uh, and then also we're kind ofone leads into the other.
As we were talking aboutSurvivor, we were talking about
we switched to it, we're like,look, based off Pittsburgh's
schedule, they got some prettytough teams available.
I mean, granted, they stillhaven't played Baltimore yet,
but by the time they play them,the players that they have hurt

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could be back, so you neverknow.
So when you're picking teams,you gotta forecast what may or
may not happen and what teamsyou want to have now versus
later.
And I'm like, look, if there'stime to use it, it's now.
One thing that I I knew we weregood against them statistically
for the past 20 years.

Scott (28:51):
We didn't know the stat that they threw up at the end of
the game.

Graham (28:54):
Completely forgot.
The Cleveland Browns' last winin Pittsburgh was in 2003.
What?
Yeah.
I mean, Rothesberger has onlylost three times to the Browns.
And he played 18 years.
Yeah, and they were all on theroad.
Yeah, that's my point.

(29:15):
Like, I no, two of them.
They he they he did have uhwait, was he the quarterback
then?
No, it was Pickett.
No, yeah.
Alright, yeah.
Because I was trying to thinkthe one year when Baker beat him
in the playoffs, I can'tremember if that was with Ben or
against Baker.
Or I'm sorry, Ben or Pickett,but still.
So we did write with theSurvivor picks.

(29:38):
One thing I was gonna mentionto you earlier today, I always
forget about the Thursday game.
If you take away the Eagleslosing, in both of the Survivor
Leagues that were in, in Andy'sleague, no one lost.
The only people that lost werethe people that took that took
the Eagles.

Scott (29:58):
Yeah.
But that was also 10 people.

Graham (30:00):
Yeah, so it's huge.
51 down to 41.

Scott (30:03):
Week six.

Graham (30:04):
Perfect.
Week six.
I mean and then also in thefire department league with our
Audrey, the only people thatlost, there was only one because
one person took the Jets.
It was either the Jets or yeah,I think it was the Jets.

Scott (30:20):
Dude, speaking of the Jets, like, bro, I know you
didn't see any of that game.
No.
And all I watched was thesecond half because Kellen and I
got up and had some breakfast.
Dude, I saw this little thingon NFL Instagram.
I couldn't even believe what Iwas reading.
I always knew I could play inthe NFL.

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Justin Field, Justin Fields hadnegative 10 net passing yards
against the Broncos today, whichmeans you, yes, you reading
this on your couch had morepassing yards than Justin
Fields.
Not gonna say that the Broncoshad much more.

(31:04):
Because the Broncos lookedawful too, but the Broncos did
have nine sacks.

Graham (31:14):
I think you need to put it into a little bit more
perspective.
They only won by two points.

Scott (31:21):
Yeah.
13 to 11.

Graham (31:24):
And you're telling me Fields had negative 10 passing
yards?

Scott (31:28):
Negative 10.

Graham (31:30):
And they only lost by two?

Scott (31:32):
Yep.

Graham (31:34):
What?
Exactly.
You know.

Scott (31:37):
Dude, I'm I'm sitting here looking at the stats.
Wow, this is just I don't evenunderstand how this is real.
It can't be real.
The Jets only had 82 yards inthe game, dude.
In the current NFL, where allthe rules are what?

(31:58):
Offense.
It's all offensive happy.

Graham (32:06):
I mean, at this point, I have to look it up.
How did they score?
Like, how did they get theirpoints?
Was it just dude?
I'm like, I'm getting to 11.
I was like, did they get asafety?
Like, how'd they get 11?

Scott (32:18):
I think they got a safety.

Graham (32:20):
Yeah.
Okay, so three field goals anda safety.
Okay.

Scott (32:23):
Yeah.
They had negative 10 passingyards, 92 rushing yards, equals
82 yards total.

Graham (32:37):
I I don't know, but it's third and one right now with
three minutes and 50 secondsleft.
Dan Campbell's holding achallenge to flag, depending
upon.
I know that.
Can we get a stop here?
I need a field goal.

Scott (32:52):
I need a pick.

Graham (32:53):
I pick.
Oh.
What happened?
You already saw her?
Are you ahead of me?
No, I'm we're at the same.
I'm just.
Oh, there's a first down.

Scott (33:03):
Kareem hunt.

Graham (33:04):
Or just run right through them and.

Scott (33:05):
Kareem hunt gonna go kick somebody again and get on
another roster.
Uh I don't know.

Graham (33:15):
How?
How?
Can you please explain to me,regardless of everything else
that I took, just this gamealone.
If I told you I somehow took analternate spread and I got the
Lions plus 14 and a half beforethe start of the game, you would

(33:39):
say, what?
Winner.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner?

Scott (33:47):
That's why they call it gambling.
It's unfortunately.

Graham (33:54):
What does Herm Edwards say?
You play to win the game.
Like what?

Scott (34:05):
You play to win the game, man.
I just and I don't know.
I can't.
One out and bottom of theninth, two outs now.
Seattle's about to take gameone.
Who would have seen thatcoming?
Not this guy.
Wow.

Graham (34:20):
Wow.

Scott (34:21):
Talk about running on momentum.

Graham (34:24):
Hey.
Now this series is seven,right?
Or is this five?
Okay.
Yeah, seven.
Yeah, finally.

Scott (34:33):
Yeah, finally.
Dude.
Didn't see that shit happening.

Graham (34:38):
No.

Scott (34:38):
But no, not at all.
Uh but crazy thing is, youknow, this is a fun time of the
year where we got hockey juststarted this past week, major
league baseball playoffs, NFL.
And when does the NBA start?
Not that I call that fun, butdon't they start in like the
next week or so?

Graham (34:56):
Two weeks, the 23rd week.

Scott (34:59):
Yeah.
Everything's about to be going.
But dude, LeBron's out for awhile because he has an Ingram
hair nail.
Oh yes, or toenail, sorry.

Graham (35:10):
Sciatica pain.

Scott (35:15):
Whatever.
Uh let's jump right into mygame because you and I were
talking last night, and I waslike, I don't think there's a
chance we can win this game,dude.
And really didn't.
Dude, we're missing three ofour starting five starting

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offensive linemen.
Omarion Hampton's out for fourweeks.
Quentin Johnson's out.
And then before the game,Matlock's a scratch, not even an
injury, a personal issue.
And I'm like, oh, dude, there'sno chance.
Did Dolphins win the toss,elect to go on offense first?

(35:58):
Dude, two was first pass, apick.
I'm like, all right.
We get three out of it.
You know, the the thing withthe Chargers this year is the
red zone was it's been that andpenalties and you know injuries,
obviously, right?
Right.
Dude, we score three, you know,give the ball back to him.

(36:19):
It is what it is.
Uh three and out.
We go three and out.
Then A-Chain, A-chan, whateverhis name is, 49-yard tutty rush
to the house.
You know, all I can say isthis.
Our pass rush has been weak.
Obviously, Khalil Mack's beenout since the Raider game.

(36:41):
My boy Thule.
Thule la la la poo uh is numberfour in the number four in the
league, dude.
With pressures this year goingin today.
No other player on our team iseven close to that.
So, what did the Chargers dothis week?

(37:02):
Trade with the Ravens to get anedge rusher.
My boy's second play on thefield, sack.
Ain't mad at it.
Dude was a beast during thewhole game.
But, you know, once again, redzone.
You gotta score touchdowns.
You gotta score touchdowns.

(37:22):
It's not about field goals.
Vidal filling in, dude, forOmarion Hampton.
My guy had 72 rushing yards inthe second quarter, had over a
Hundo today.
He played his dick off.
Gadson, our fifth round pickfrom Syracuse, tight end, whose
dad played for the Dolphins.

(37:44):
First catch of the day,fumbles.
Okay, gives the Dolphins a ballback.
It was the tail of two halves.
Like we're losing, I don'tknow, I think it was 12 to 9 or
something like that.
I don't know.
We're losing at halftime.
We get the ball back, start thesecond half.

(38:06):
Herbert goes on a seven-minutedrive.
We score a tutty, then kick theball off to the Dolphins.
Another pick.
We score another tutty.
Dude, we had the ball theentire third quarter.
The Dolphins had six offensiveplays, dude, in the third
quarter for negative 11 yards.

Graham (38:28):
What?

Scott (38:32):
And then we find ourselves trailing by one in the
fourth quarter.
Because of that one, we hadfirst and goal, had to settle
for a field goal.
I knew at the time, I'm like,this is gonna kill us.
And it did.
And I'm texting you, Rob and I,we're all texting.
I'm like, I've seen thisgoddamn movie over and over and

(38:54):
over before.
We're up big, and you know,dude, but then it happened, bro.
Naheem Hines, whatever his nameis, takes the kickoff back to
the 40.
Herbert throws that ball awaywith 17 people around him on
first down.
And then he throws that 42-yardpass to Ladd when he should

(39:17):
have been sacked.

Graham (39:21):
He threw like an eight-yard pass, and then there
was a yards after catch.
Big difference.

Scott (39:27):
But how about Ladd making homeboy?

Graham (39:30):
Yeah, the little show.

Scott (39:33):
The homeboy's jock straps still laying down there in
Miami.
Dude.
But it wasn't even about Ladd,dude.
It was about Herbert got thatpass off.

Graham (39:45):
Oh, I thought he was getting sacked.
Dude.
How he got out of that and thenthrew a somewhat capable ball
in Lad's direction.
I'm like, what?

Scott (39:57):
Insane.
Absolutely insane.

Graham (40:00):
I mean, at this point, we're going back and forth
Texan.
I switched from the red zonespecifically to your game.
I'm like, all right, let'swatch what's going on.
And I see Miami drive down thefield and then get that and
throw the touchdown to Waller.
And I'm like, oh boy.
I was like, you know what?
I'm not.
I mean, like, it's not that I'mnot at it, but there was plenty

(40:22):
of time.
You know what I mean?

Scott (40:24):
And I think there's plenty of time.
But guess what?
We got the best kicker in thegame.
Dicker, the motherfuckingkicker.
Who?
Yeah.
Dicker, the fucking kicker.
I know.
I know.
It was so nice to watch himline up with eight seconds left

(40:47):
and not have a doubt in my mindthat this was going in.
For once.
It was so awesome.
It was just like, yeah, thanksfor playing.
Tua.
Thank you, Miami Dolphins, forbeing stupid and taking him
instead of Herbert.
I appreciate it.

(41:07):
You'll forever be on myChristmas card list.
I mean, dude.

Graham (41:15):
What I want to know is, since you were talking with Rob,
you know, pretty much in realtime, it was as it was going on.

Scott (41:22):
Oh, dude, Rob, Rob, before we even get into that, I
got to I just gotta before weeven get into that.
I just gotta go into this.
Last night I'm talking to Roband Trevor and our little group
friends.
And I'm like, you know, I'mlike, here, I'm like, I don't
really have a good feeling abouttomorrow.

(41:43):
But if we're gonna beat theDolphins, Herbert is gonna have
to throw it 35 plus times.
And Rob goes, if Herbert has topass 35 times, he will finish
the night in the morgue with ouroffensive line.
I'm like, no, Rob.
They have to be quick passes.

(42:05):
I'm not saying five-step drops.
Okay.
And halfway through the firstquarter, Trevor goes, Jesus, do
you want to be our offensivecoordinator, Scotty?
And I'm like, dude, it's nothard.
How do you beat a pass rushwhen your offensive line sucks?
Said it last week.
Quick passes, screens.

(42:27):
You gotta get the ball out ofyour hands fast.
Right.
You have to.
Right.
Dude, you know how many passesHerbert attempted?
38.

Graham (42:41):
Yeah?

Scott (42:44):
And those little quick dump-offs.
It's an extension of the run.
Okay?
It's an extension of the run.
And something I gotta bring up,dude, because this is insane.
And TP sent it to me tonight,and I didn't even have I didn't
even know.
Dude, Keenan Allen.
First last year, last week wasthe first time, first player to

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get to a thousand catches,right?
Faster than anyone.
Today?
Only player in NFL history tohave 400 plus catches from two
different quarterbacks.

Graham (43:23):
Interesting.
Wow.

Scott (43:31):
Yeah.
You want to talk about, and Iobviously I'm biased, but I'm
just gonna say it right now, andI said it to TP.
Keenan was by far the bestdraft pick from Tom Telesco in
his era.

Graham (43:48):
Okay.

Scott (43:49):
You can't say Derwin.
Derwin fell to us.
You can't say Herbert.
Herbert fell to us.
Right?
Keenan was a third-round pick.

Graham (43:57):
Yeah.

Scott (43:59):
And would have been a first round pick if it wasn't
for his injury.
You want to talk about anunderrated player.
You and I have argued about itall the time.
The guy is a stud.
So I know what you're gonnaask, and the answer is yes.
You want me to stir the pot?

(44:19):
Yeah, I'd rather have him thanAntonio Brown.
No 100%.
100%.

Graham (44:26):
There is absolutely no chance of that number one.
Have you ever seen Keenan runoff the field?
That was not the question.
And everyone knows in asix-year period, no one's
beating A B, number one.
That's just that's off thetable.
We're not even going there,okay?

Scott (44:44):
Okay.

Graham (44:45):
What I was gonna say was, and this is where the
controversy between you and Iare gonna start.
Golf just got killed.
Hall of Famer?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Now, this is where this iswhere it's gonna get dirty.
Tell me why he gets in beforeHeinz Ward.

(45:05):
Or should he get in beforeHeinz Ward?

Scott (45:12):
I'm not arguing Heinz Ward shouldn't be in the Hall of
Fame.

Graham (45:15):
No, I know that, but I'm just saying, like, if you say
he's such a guaranteed Hall ofFamer.

Scott (45:20):
I'm just saying he's the fastest to a thousand.

Graham (45:23):
I'm not saying he's not.
I'm just saying comparativelyHeinz Ward is a different guy.

Scott (45:29):
Heinz Ward was an unselfish player that would go
out there and lay his body onthe line to make a block for the
running game.
It's a different world.

Graham (45:38):
He still had the stats, though.

Scott (45:40):
The same reason that people hated on Keenan.
Keenan's not a touchdownmachine.
Keenan's a reception machine.
Right.
I'm not saying one is should beand one shouldn't be.
We all know Heinz Ward shouldbe oh game over.
Good job.
Oh.
Is your teaser still intact?

(46:02):
Down 13.

Graham (46:06):
They're kneeling it, right?
I hope so.
You would think so.
I got the Lions plus 14 and ahalf.
Them holding them to a fieldgoal was huge.
Them more or less going threeand out right there, while
you're throwing it, get the Imean, uh, okay, I get it.
But where they arepositionally, Detroit has no

(46:28):
timeouts.

Scott (46:29):
Yeah, it's over.

Graham (46:31):
They can essentially kneel it.
Right?
So they should do that.
All right.
You would hope so.
Lord, baby Jesus, please.
Getting back to it.
I I I I was only throwing jabsjust to throw a jab.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Because my thing with Heinz,look, has the thousand catches,
has ten thousand yards.

Scott (46:51):
We're not talking about the thousand catches.
We're talking about Keenanbeing the fastest to a thousand.

Graham (46:56):
No, no, no.

Scott (46:57):
I'm not doubting Heinz Ward catching a thousand balls.

Graham (47:01):
I guess where I was going with it is for how much
you and others believe andbelieve, and I believe in
Keenan.
He's a great player.
I'm not saying he's not aplayer, I'm just saying, like,
would it be fair for him to getin before Heinz Ward,
considering he was a Super BowlMVP?

Scott (47:20):
Keenan's gonna get in before Heinz Ward.

Graham (47:24):
I just throwing it out there.
And I think that's bullshit.

Scott (47:28):
Like well, because you're biased.
You're talking about he's aSuper Bowl champion MVP.
Who?

Graham (47:41):
Just say it.
Dude, but he just never evenplayed in a Super Bowl.

Scott (47:46):
Yeah.
Exactly, because he's gotfucking Tom Talisco.
Anyhow, I don't even want toget into it.
Dude, a game, you and I, wetalked about it earlier.
Dude, we do all these parlaysand these teasers, and the only
game that I was 100% confidentin today was what?
Seattle.
Yeah.
The Jaguars coming off ofMonster Win, beating the Chiefs

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at home.

Graham (48:13):
I still can't believe how that happened, by the way.
Like him tripping.
Him falling down tripping andthen running it into the end
zone.
Oh, Tay Tay's there.
There she is.
Oh, pizza box ass.

Scott (48:25):
Welcome to the show.
Caitlin Clark's been at moreChiefs games this year than she
has at her Indiana.
What's her team's name?
Indiana Fever.
Yeah, than Indiana Fever games.
Oh, my ACL turn.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Whatever.
Kermit the Frog, yeah.
Whatever.
Go hang out with your ugly asswife.

(48:46):
Uh anyhow.
Uh, dude, Tampa Niners.
Entertaining much.
Wow.
What a game.
Besides Fred Warner going outfor the season, that blows.

Announcer (49:03):
Oh, yeah.

Scott (49:03):
But but Baker, oh, that rush for first down on third and
whatever, 13, 14, or whateverit was.
Oh.

Graham (49:13):
That play alone, and on top of coming back and getting
that dub, well, I wouldn't saycoming back, there was only a
part where they were down alittle bit, but just how he led
that offense and throwingtouchdowns to people, folks,
I've never heard of before.

Scott (49:29):
Abuka's out with the hammy.
Yeah.
Mike Evans still out.
Godwin comes back, I think.
Did Godwin come back today?

Graham (49:36):
No.

Scott (49:36):
He wasn't.
He didn't play.
No.
Dude.
Like, he's throwing to guys.
I'm like, Bucky Irving's out.
Yeah.
Dude, after six weeks.
Hey Browns.
How's that make you feel thatyou drafted him?

Graham (49:53):
Yeah.
I totally agree with whatyou're saying, but what I would
say is this.
Everything is um, how do I saythis?
Like, everything's a learningexperience, and you're not like
Baker wasn't what he is nowthen.
Right?
A hundred percent he wasn't.

Scott (50:15):
And but guess what?
To the credit scenery.
Well, of course.
How's that working out for DannyDimes?

Graham (50:23):
Well, we'll get into that shortly.

Scott (50:24):
How's that working out for Sam Darnold when he went to
the Vikings?
Now he's with Seattle.

Graham (50:30):
Yeah.
I look.
Oh, overtime.
And by overtime slap myself, Imean uh game's over.
Thank you for kneeling theball, but there's player fights
in wow.
Who's fighting?
It's oh, it's a player instreet clothes.

(50:50):
What?

Scott (50:51):
Oh hopefully it's Chris Jones when he's just standing
there watching Trevor Lawrencescore a touchdown.
Whatever, dude.
We all knew the Chiefs weregonna win tonight.
I mean, come on.
We knew it was gonna happen.
I did.
I knew it was happening.
I told you earlier, Chiefs arewinning.
Ain't no chance.

Graham (51:10):
Detroit's look so good.

Scott (51:13):
Except for week one.
Week one's weekend.
Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell.
Oh, it was Branch and andKermit.
Kermit tried to high-five him,and Branch said, suck it.
Who's number nine?
Juju.
Oh.

(51:33):
Oh, Branch hit him in the face.
Oh, and then Juju just flopped.
Juju just flopped like LeBron.
Come on.
First off, he didn't flop.
He got slapped in the face.
Dude, dude.
Juju just flopped like LeBron.
I mean, come on.
If it was me or you, yeah, we'dfall down.
He's not a world-class athlete.
Shut up.

(51:53):
He just flopped.
I mean, come on.
Oh, there's Kelsey.
Oh, I'm going to go hang outwith my pizza box ass
girlfriend, Taylor Swift, andtalk about a song called Wood,
talking about how big it is, butit's really the size of a
millimeter Peter.

Graham (52:08):
But anyhow, uh, yeah, this episode's gonna be not safe
for children.
This one's gonna have the NSFWwarning.

Scott (52:22):
Dude, but anyhow, I don't know, man.
Hey, hey.
My boys escaped with a win.
Didn't think it was gonnahappen.
Dude, can we talk about thePatriots?

Graham (52:34):
Hold on.
Can we talk about how the organno dude?
There's still two more thingswe need to talk about your game.
What?
First off, you tell me fourdays ago that because Miami's
Miami and you know the fans arenot really fans there, you could
get lower level tickets for$100.
Dude, we could have got themcheaper than that.

(52:56):
That's my point.
We could have been at thisgame.
That's number one.

Scott (53:01):
Number two.

Graham (53:08):
I know.
That little troublemaker, sonof a bitch.
Love you, bro.
Um, but no, the biggest news ofthe game.
The press conference.
Come on.

Scott (53:23):
Oh, two of throwing everybody under the story of the
day.
Tell me you don't want to getyour head coach fired without
telling me you want to get yourhead coach fired.

Graham (53:37):
Dude, I thought the funniest thing, I was listening
to Chris Long, his podcast thathe does, and he made a point
where it was just like when youhad Brian Flores, who was your
defensive coordinator, and thenhe was your interim, but the

(54:01):
players didn't like how director stern or you know, just
trying to keep peopleaccountable for their actions
and you know, set rules andboundaries of how the
organization should be and howhe wants the team to be run.
Everyone thought he was abully.
He was being mean.

Scott (54:20):
So, yeah, you know why?
Because he heard the rumors,bro.
Well, yeah, Belichick wascoming in, Sean Payton was
coming in, Tom Brady was comingin.
Why do you think their GMhasn't gotten fired?
Because he's got dirt on thegoddamn organization.
McDaniel will get fired.

(54:42):
What's the owner's name?

Graham (54:44):
Is it Michael Ross?
It's something Ross.

Scott (54:45):
The the GM's name is Greer.
He's been with the organizationfor 20 plus years.
Why is he not going to getfired?
He's got dirt.
Okay.
We all know the the lawsuitwith Flores.
He should have been the nextcoach.
A hundred percent.
Should have been the next headcoach.
When when the Chargers firedBeanie Head Staley, uh, I was

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saying I want Flores tointerview.

Graham (55:13):
Yeah.

Scott (55:15):
Dude.
Yeah.
So they got dirt on theorganization.

Graham (55:22):
Something has to be the case.

Scott (55:24):
So now I sent that press conference to TP and he texted
me after it.
He goes, dude, I justre-listened it to his comment.
If McDaniels ain't fired, Idon't know what will happen with
that team.
But also, you can't say thatstuff publicly unless you're
trying to get your coach fired.
Could you imagine?

(55:47):
Well, Aaron Rodgers doesn'tlike his mom.
Could you imagine Josh Allensaying that about his head coach
and team in a press conferenceafter losing?
Could you imagine Herbertsaying that?
Could you imagine Mahomes is adouchebag, but he still ain't

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gonna say it.

Graham (56:08):
No.

Scott (56:09):
Dude, is that the guy you want leading your football
team?

Graham (56:14):
I can go both sides on this.
I agree with you, but what'sthe definition of insanity?

Scott (56:24):
Yeah, I don't know.
Doing the same thing over andover.

Graham (56:26):
So if you need to stir the pot, you need to do
something, like it's but you'rethe quarterback, you're the
leader of that team.
Yeah, and a dude that got paid200 plus million dollars and is
not going anywhere.

Scott (56:41):
That literally got hit last year in week two and is
thrown up gang signs while he'sfrozen.

Graham (56:47):
That's not the point.

Scott (56:48):
The point is The point is you don't say that shit.
Ever.
Unless, unless ever, ever.
Unless ever, ever, ever, ever,ever, ever.
Ever.
Brandon Staley, Anthony Lynnwere the dumbest head coaches in
Tartar's history.
Well, Mike McCoy.
Did you ever hear anybodysaying?

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No.

Graham (57:11):
Definitely not.
So if Herbert would have donewhat Tua did, you would have not
been happy with that?
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
I mean, I understand and Irespect that.

Scott (57:28):
I I I mean, I was more surprised that the quarterback
is the leader of your team.

Graham (57:35):
I agree.
I was more surprised that hecalled out players to not
showing up to the team meeting,to the players-only team
meeting.

Scott (57:43):
Exactly.
I agree.

Graham (57:45):
He's like, players like, well, is it mandatory?
Is it not mandatory?
You guys have won one game.
You need to come together andfigure it the fuck out.
Like, you don't, you actuallyhave some good players.

Scott (57:59):
Yes.
They do.
But are they gonna get traded?
I mean, everybody's saying Achain's on the box now on the
trading block.
Bradley Chubb.

Graham (58:14):
How I mean, do they just start completely over?
Is Waddle on the trading block?

Scott (58:21):
Who knows?
I mean, the Browns, what arethe Browns gonna do?
The Browns.
Yeah, but dude, they've gotpieces that people could use.
Some offensive linemen.

Graham (58:37):
Right.

Scott (58:38):
And Joku is the first time.

Graham (58:39):
Everyone knows you don't trade offensive linemen in the
middle of the season.

Scott (58:43):
Yeah, unless you're the Browns.
Well, you can't have exceptionsto the rule.
They also know that you don'ttrade Joe Flacco in the division
unless you give up on the year.

Graham (58:58):
Yes and no.
What has Joe Flacco done forthem in the games that he
played?
He was supposed to be prettysure he beat the Packers.

Scott (59:10):
Is he the long-term guy?
Absolutely not.
But the defense.
Do you trade anybody?
Do you trade anybody in thedivision?
No.
No, dude.
Especially a team like theBengals that are reeling that.

Graham (59:31):
Yeah, but here's the thing.
It's one year.
Joe Flacco is not playing inthe NFL next year.

Scott (59:39):
Unless Yeah, we said that two years ago.
Well, I mean When Flacco ledthe Browns, uh, didn't they win
a playoff game?

Graham (59:50):
The no.

Scott (59:51):
The no, he led the No, he won he got in the playoffs.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he lost to the Texans.

Graham (59:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Scott (01:00:00):
But still, still you don't trade a water boy in your
division.

Graham (01:00:08):
Hey, what's that saying?
One man's trash is anotherman's treasure.

Scott (01:00:14):
Not saying that he's trash.
I'm not saying that.
Hey, hey, and your fantasy teamwas awesome today because guess
what?
Flacco was the quarterback forthe Bengals.
Chase was actually gettingreceptions.

Graham (01:00:28):
Well, I mean, a lot that the end helped for sure.
But I I'll say this.
The outlook for the Bengals, ifyou look at it prior to today,
what Browning was giving themcompared to what Flacco was
doing, mind you, he got there onWednesday.
Yeah.
He came back from Europe, flew,and got to Cincinnati on

(01:00:56):
Wednesday and did all that withthe little bit of help.

Scott (01:00:59):
Look, it gives Cincinnati got wide receivers named Jamar
Chase and you know Higgins.

Graham (01:01:07):
I agree.
And and honestly, we talkedabout, you know, the Joe Burrow
and Joe Burrow slapped myself.
We talked about the Joe Flaccoeffect, how he has killed
Pittsburgh on shim being onshitty teams over the years,
beating us with on when he wason Cleveland.
He beat us when he was he beatus when he was the backup on the

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Colts, and Anthony Richardsonsupposedly got hurt, his hip got
hurt, you know, and he comes inand and beats us.
So it's just like nowPittsburgh on a short week.
Granted, the Bengals aretechnically on a short week.
The Bengals are not as much ofa cakewalk as they were with
Browning.

Scott (01:01:47):
Yeah.

Graham (01:01:48):
Now that Pittsburgh has to go to Cincinnati.

Scott (01:01:51):
Yeah.
Something else that's weird tome with Flacco joining the
Bengals and the Browns playingthe Steelers today.
The Browns played in Londonlast week, right?
Yeah.
Remember the old rule where ifyou played in London, your next
week was a bye week.

Graham (01:02:14):
Used to.
I was thinking about earlier.
How long has the NFL beenplaying in Europe now?
Has it been 10 years already?
Oh, more.
That's what I thought, right?

Scott (01:02:27):
More.
Yeah.
More than that.
But it used to be you played inLondon, you get a bye the next
week.
Weird.
I mean, whatever.
Were the Browns gonna beat theSteelers?
No chance.
If they had a bye week, werethey gonna be the Steelers?
No chance.
But dude, uh, it's just weirdto me.

(01:02:49):
I don't know.
What also is weird to me is wehave two Monday night games
again tomorrow night.

Announcer (01:02:56):
We do.

Scott (01:02:58):
And next week we have two more.
I I'm I'm not mad at it.
I don't hate it.
I the only thing you know whatI'm gonna say is I hate is week
two, chargers play at 10 p.m.

(01:03:18):
And now they're doing the 7.15start and the 8.15 start.

Graham (01:03:27):
It's already been established, Scott.
The NFL hates the Chargers.
I mean, that's yeah, we knowthat.

Scott (01:03:33):
We know that.
We all know that.
But it's like, bro.

Graham (01:03:38):
Really?
Who you guys got next week, bythe way?
Oh, dude.
Oh, wow.
All right.
I have no idea.
I'm asking blindly.
I'm not setting you up foranything.

Scott (01:03:52):
Colts at home.

Graham (01:03:55):
I hey.

Scott (01:03:56):
And then we have the then we have the Vikings at home on
Thursday.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, at least.

Graham (01:04:02):
That's a tough two games.

Scott (01:04:04):
Yeah, it is.
It definitely is.
But we're supposed to begetting Alt back and Mac back
next week.
Oh, okay, good.
That's huge.
That's huge.

Graham (01:04:12):
Now, granted, I would say that at the start of the
season, I would have not saidyour week seven matchup with the
Colts would have been exactlynot of what it is.
I mean, if you would have toldme that Daniel Jones A would
have won the starting job, Iwould have been like, okay,
that's fine.
But the fact that he would takethat offense, put it on his
back, and said, All right, boys,I got you.

(01:04:33):
Let's go.
Him and Jonathan Taylor, who'sthe leading rusher in the NFL
right now, I mean, what?
Their defense.
I mean, look, a backupquarterback, Jacoby Brissett,
you know.
He played great today for theCardinals.
He is another perfect example.

(01:04:53):
As I just referenced withDaniel Jones, having a good
backup quarterback is essentialin the league.
Like, and there's a reason whyteams don't give up their
backups.
There's a reason why KirkCousins is still sitting in
Atlanta.
He ain't going nowhere.

Scott (01:05:12):
I don't disagree.

Graham (01:05:13):
You know what I mean?
And it's just like, it'samazing how important certain
things are, and not our justlike how the how the football
bounces.
You never know.

Scott (01:05:22):
Hey, a change of scenery for a quarterback.

Graham (01:05:25):
Absolutely.
Arnold.

Scott (01:05:28):
What?
Dude.
Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield.

Graham (01:05:33):
Uh MVP.
Baker Mayfield, unofficially asof right now, by the way.

Scott (01:05:39):
Yeah.
I mean, and then you gotAnthony Richardson who's getting
hurt in pre-game warmups.

Graham (01:05:48):
Can you explain to me?
Like, I don't get it.
I saw the thing you sent me, sohe was looking at this band
around his thigh, and then hebroke his orbital bone.
Like, that how do you breakyour orbital bone in pre-game
warm-ups?

Scott (01:06:02):
The crazier thing than that to me is the dude that got
the concussion running into theother player in pregame warmups.

Graham (01:06:11):
Did he get punched in the face by a ghost or
something?
Like dude, I don't know.

Scott (01:06:17):
I have this crazy idea.

Graham (01:06:19):
I mean, and really something I kind of want to talk
about just for a few a minuteor two.
The NFC West was somewhat wideopen at the beginning.
You know, everyone was like,oh, the 49ers they got a very
easy schedule, but they'rebanged up.
They had those dubs in thebeginning of the season.
Now everyone's like, oh, well,not by now, but earlier, they're

(01:06:40):
like, all right, the Rams.
Rams are looking good.
Now they're getting banged up.
Puka with the ham uh Puka's nothamstring, it's like ankle,
right?
Ankle, yeah.
Dude, high ankle, that's a fewweeks.
That's more yeah.

Scott (01:06:53):
Just asked Joe Alton, Hampton.

Graham (01:06:55):
So that being said, first people were saying Rams,
second people were saying 49ers,but did you see newly acquired
Seahawks, Darnold, and ASN,Jackson Smith, and Jigbub?
If I I know we've talked aboutthis often, everyone and their

(01:07:19):
mother in the fantasy field wasjust like uh put their arms up
in the air.
I have no idea what this dude'sgonna do.
Um, oh, I don't know.
How about be like top five inthe entire league right now?
Actually, I think he's thesecond best wide receiver
statistically behind Puka.

Scott (01:07:34):
We were talking on the phone before we got on, and you
were talking about JonathanTaylor like leading the NFL on
Russia, and I'm like, that's noteven the story, bro.
It's in Jigma.

Graham (01:07:45):
Yeah.

Scott (01:07:47):
It's in Jigba, without a doubt.

Graham (01:07:49):
Uh, I mean, especially because they signed Cup, who are
both two inside players.
We're like, who's gonna playthe outside?
I uh look, I mean, he was thenumber one at Ohio State for a
reason, right?

Scott (01:08:05):
Yeah, and so was Marvin Harrison Jr.
So was Olave and who else,Garrett Wilson?
Who else am I missing?
Oh, all those dudes that were0-4 against Michigan.
Uh, dude, the NFC West, SanFran, Seattle, and the Rams are
all four and two.
They're all four and two.

(01:08:27):
Insane.
But can we talk about theCarolina Panthers?

Graham (01:08:35):
Let's go.

Scott (01:08:37):
Three and three.
Bro, what?
I'm sorry, what?

Graham (01:08:46):
You know, the thing that makes me happiest about that
whole situation is can we getoff uh I'm like, what's his
first name?
Bryce is back, the quarterback.
Like, seriously.

Scott (01:09:03):
Maybe.

Graham (01:09:05):
Granted, to help their win today, Dowdle, who by the
way was the backup, who left, bythe way, the Cowboys last year.
Right.

Scott (01:09:17):
He had a game last week against the Dolphins in his
press conference, talk shit tothe Cowboys for letting them go.
And not only did he talk shit,he backed it up today.

Graham (01:09:31):
Uh and by backing it up, you mean by having 237
all-purpose yards and is now theleader for a running back for
all-purpose yards from scrimmageand Panthers organization in a
game.

Scott (01:09:48):
And remember that guy, CMC?

Graham (01:09:52):
How about D'Angelo Williams?

Scott (01:09:56):
Dude.

Graham (01:09:57):
Like, there's been some backs there.

Scott (01:10:01):
I just love the fact that he talks shit and then backs it
up.

Graham (01:10:04):
Dude, I mean, uh, like, unbelievable.
Dude, buck 32 or something onthe ground and then five catches
for 87 and a touch.
Like insane.

Scott (01:10:16):
Insane.

Graham (01:10:16):
He knew the Cowboys can't stop the run.
And let's just go back to it.
So Jerry Jones gets rid ofMicah Parsons but says, I'm only
doing this if we get adefensive player back in return
besides the first round picks.
Okay, that's fine.
But we need someone that'sgonna stop the run.
Yeah, good luck.

(01:10:38):
How's that working out?
Although Pickens had a game.
I'll give him that.

Scott (01:10:47):
Pickens had an amazing game.

Graham (01:10:48):
Yeah.

Scott (01:10:51):
And they're just gonna they're gonna get CD back.
Dak had a game too.
Yeah.
And like we always talk about,we talked about it before the
season, Dak is what?
Every other year.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, Tampa, ifeverything ended right now,
Tampa's the one seed in the NFC.

Announcer (01:11:13):
What?

Graham (01:11:14):
Wow.

Scott (01:11:15):
I haven't looked at updated standings.
Um Tampa's Tampa's five andone.
Yeah.
Green Bay's three, one, andone.
Nice guy.

Graham (01:11:31):
So all that being said, we pretty much covered all the
games today.
Really no need to bring upPatriots laying that wood down
in New Orleans.
I mean, it is what it is.

Scott (01:11:43):
We can bring it up because your boy got over eight
and a half wins that I've beenbragging about.
You were doubting me.
And Drake may.
He's him.
He's he's alright.

Graham (01:11:55):
Okay.
Vegas took care of Tennessee athome.
All right, that's cool.
So, folks, Scotty Waugh,Washradamus.
Who do you like tomorrow night?
Who do you like in the Buffaloat Atlanta?

(01:12:15):
And then a little hometown areafor you.
The Redskins, aka Commanders athome.

Scott (01:12:24):
Who do you like against the Bears?

Graham (01:12:26):
Against the Bears.
Coming off a bye.

Scott (01:12:30):
Dude, I've been stressing this game.
I think the Bills are gonnawin.
But I think it's gonna betight.
They're only four and a halfpoint favorites.
The Bills.
What have the Bills done thisyear?
Okay, they came back againstthe Ravens, beat them by one.

(01:12:53):
Okay, yeah, that was before theRavens got injured.
But then they barely beat theSaints.
They barely beat the Jets.
Who else did the Bills beat?
I don't know.
They lost to the Patriots lastweek.

Graham (01:13:09):
I think they played Miami already, right?
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.

Scott (01:13:16):
But I don't know.
If I'm taking straight winners,yeah, I'm taking the Bills.

Graham (01:13:24):
Yeah.

Scott (01:13:25):
Point spread.
Not sure what I'm doing.
Not sure.

Graham (01:13:32):
I mean, I don't want to be a homer.
I mean, I I you know, I do havea little place in my heart for
the Bills.
Uh, you know, being from Erie,how close it is, and one, you
know, a good friend of mine.
I got a lot of friends that areBills fans.
I I can make a case that thisis a statement game for both
teams.
Yes.
I mean, the Falcons need a dub.

(01:13:52):
Need this.
And also, they're coming off abye.
Like, you can't lose.
I mean, you can, but it doesn'tlook good losing coming off a
bye.
It just doesn't.

Scott (01:14:06):
The other game, Bears at Washington.
I mean, Scary Terry's still notplaying.
You better not.
The Bears are still bitterbettyabout that Hail Mary last year.
Coming off a bye.

Graham (01:14:25):
You better not, so I'm gonna say it before you.
I'm taking Chicago.
Audrey, did you hear that?
Sorry, BB.
I'm taking Chicago.

Scott (01:14:36):
Chicago ain't winning, dude.

Graham (01:14:38):
Off a bye?
Ben Johnson's getting themtogether.
They've been looking a lotbetter.

Scott (01:14:44):
I just uh they ain't winning.
Bears ain't winning.
All right.
Washington's winning the game.
All right.
Line's five and a half.
I don't know if I like that.
Dude, they ain't winning.
Alright.

Graham (01:15:04):
Sidebed, I get the point.

Scott (01:15:06):
Audrey's going to the game too tomorrow night.

Graham (01:15:09):
Yeah.
I'd say an impromptu after thegame, but you know she's gonna
be wasted.

Scott (01:15:17):
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Okay.
She'll be hammered.
Um I don't know, dude.
I I just I saw some stat.
I wish I knew the exact thing.
What it was like the last timethe Bears and the Redskins
played each other two years in arow and had the same
quarterback start in each game.

(01:15:39):
It was like X amount of yearsago.
Right.
Crazy.
But I will just go out and sayI used to pull for Jaden
Daniels, and I saw somethingtonight.
Oh.
And I'm no longer a JadenDaniels fan.

Announcer (01:15:55):
Oh shit.
What happened?

Scott (01:15:57):
Yeah.
And I sent it to Audrey.
Oh.
And she was laughing.
Well, Jaden Daniels is from theI.E., right?
Inland Empire.
Yeah.
And Stroud.
And Jaden Daniels saidsomething a couple weeks ago.
Commented on the Mets missingthe playoffs.

Announcer (01:16:16):
Oh, shut the front door.

Scott (01:16:17):
So the Mets lost, didn't make the playoffs.
That's the biggest thing thatbrought a smile to my face
today.
You know what, Jaden Daniels?
I don't like you anymore.

Graham (01:16:33):
You know what?
It's been a while since I'vesaid this, Scott.
You're unbelievable.
You are unbelievable.
Like, hey, bro.

Scott (01:16:44):
Talk shit.
You're gonna find out.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
You're from the IE, aka, Iwould assume you would be a
Dodgers fan then.
The Angels are closer.
I'm shut the fuck up.
I mean.
Anyhow.
Uh he said the Angels arecloser.

(01:17:06):
It's the end almost the end ofweek six.
Your Steelers are in first inthe division.
Chargers are in first indivision.
If you would have told us thisright now before the season
started, how happy would we be?

Graham (01:17:23):
Oh, stoked.
I I just want to know this.
Come Tuesday, is Baltimorestill gonna be minus 110 to win
the division?

Scott (01:17:33):
Oh, I looked it up earlier there.
I looked it up earlier.

Graham (01:17:39):
What?

Scott (01:17:40):
I knew you were gonna ask that question at some point.

Graham (01:17:43):
Um what?

Scott (01:17:45):
There is absolutely uh you guys are minus 175,
Baltimore's plus 175.
Even still, plus 175, and you'reone and five?

Graham (01:17:59):
I mean, look, any given Sunday things can happen.
I get it, but you'd literallyfor them for them to make the
playoffs, they can only affordto lose one more game?
Maybe two.
What are they one and five?
Yeah.
In the AFC, 10 and 7 for thewild card is pushing it for a

(01:18:20):
while.

Scott (01:18:21):
Who would have thought the Ravens would have been one
and five?
Well, I mean hold on, week oneat the end of the third quarter
against the Bills.

Graham (01:18:33):
Oh.
I mean no Sodomas, apparently.
What Stromas over here didn'teven know.

Scott (01:18:43):
All I know is Derrick Henry, you're wash, retired.
Dude, at the end.
Enough is enough.

Graham (01:18:51):
I mean, no look, no threat of Lamar Jackson.
Dude, that we said it lastweek.
When you don't have your topsix highest paid players on your
team.
Oh, I'm sorry, everyone exceptDerrick Henry, as your top
highest paid players on yourteam are out.
You're all pro quarterback,you're all pro safety, you're

(01:19:14):
all pro linebacker, uh, yourstud fullback.
Like, I, you know, it's just uhI get it.
It is what it is.
It is.
And I ain't mad at it rightnow.
Yeah.

Scott (01:19:31):
Graham, get us out of here.
Uh, there was something else Iwanted to say.
Damn it.
I forgot.
I don't know.
Don't remember.
Fair enough.
Audrey, have fun at the gametomorrow night.
Uh hope Washington wins,especially for Survivor.
Uh what?

Graham (01:19:54):
Why she would take them.

Scott (01:19:55):
I mean, I I know, dude.
Taking your own team.
It's not even that.
The Bears are not a bad team.
There's so many other choicesyou could have picked.
They're not a bad team, I agree,but it's so Caleb Johnson.

Graham (01:20:12):
Okay, yeah, and I okay.
Has be honest, and this is I'mnot saying this is an awk.
Has Washington this yearimpressed you?

Scott (01:20:22):
Last week, yes, when they beat the shit out of the
Chargers.
But we also had zero offensivelinemen.

Graham (01:20:28):
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, you got you had playersthat got hurt, and honestly, if
you take away a couple plays inthat game, your game would have
been different.

Scott (01:20:36):
So, I mean if we hadn't have 115 yards and penalties.

Graham (01:20:41):
Well, it's not even that.
I mean, the call that was not acall, but yet the guy got fined
for it.

Scott (01:20:46):
The rough Yeah, good fucking point, Graham.
Like Quentin Johnson, dude,helmet to helmet fumbles, no
penalty on the field, but thedouchebag for Washington gets a
fine.

Graham (01:21:00):
You're welcome.

Scott (01:21:01):
Like make it make sense.

Graham (01:21:03):
What?
You know, and and a couplethird down runs where it was
like third and fifteen that hegot for first down.
Like it wasn't, you know, the Ithought that game was closer
than it was, but it was until itwasn't, you know.

Scott (01:21:18):
Yeah, anyhow, whatever.
Get this shit out of here,Graham.
I love you.
Thanks for bringing up lastweek.
I hate you for that.
But you know what?
I will say this.
We lost two games.
We lost to the Giants, and itwas still a game without our
offensive line with a with ahundred yards of penalties.
We lost to Washington lastweek.

(01:21:38):
That was a game with a hundredyards of penalties.
We lost those two games, and weare still in them.
Yeah.
So with me and you on theoffensive line.
You know, I'm still I'm good.
We're gonna get healthier.
Uh Graham, get us out of here.
And you know, it's Sundaynight.

(01:21:58):
We just watch the Chiefs andthe Lions.
Yeah, the game sucks because wewanted the Chiefs to lose, but
you know what the best part ofthe Sunday night football is,
right?

Announcer (01:22:08):
Monday?

Graham (01:22:10):
Oh my god, dude.
Oh, oh, oh, no.
The best part of Sunday nightfootball is hot chick of the
week or hot chick of always theyear, Melissa Stark.

Scott (01:22:19):
And not only that, before the game even starts, you get
to see Carrie Underwood.
I mean, come on.
Who doesn't like Sunday NightFootball?
Carrie Underwood leads it off,and then you got homegirl
Melissa Stark on the side.
I mean, come on.

Graham (01:22:34):
Hey, I mean, yeah, Carrie Underwood's nice to look
at, but I actually kind of likethe intro music on Thursday
night on Prime a lot better, tobe perfectly honest.
But that's just that's just me.

Scott (01:22:43):
I don't know if I've ever tuned into Prime early enough
to hear the music.

Graham (01:22:47):
Fair enough.
Scott, it's always a pleasuredoing the podcast with you.
How exciting is it that we gotplayoff baseball, we got the
NFL, we got hockey back.
I mean, it's a great time to bea sports fan.
I'm super excited about it.
Excited for the games tomorrownight, excited for Thursday, a
little scared, but we'll seewhat happens.
Other than that, Scott, it'salways a pleasure doing the

(01:23:09):
podcast.
And as the best homie alwayssays, Booba!

Scott (01:23:13):
Good night, friends.
Good night, Tua.
Why don't you throw your wholeorganization under the bus
again?
Thank you, Dolphins, and yourdumbass organization for taking
that moron instead of my boyHerbie.
Boomba!

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