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Sports sometimes strips away pretense and reveals true character – a lesson brutally demonstrated at this year's US Open at Oakmont. The legendary course didn't just test golf shots; it tested temperaments, with the world's best players facing conditions so demanding that par became the gold standard.

We dive deep into JJ Spaun's remarkable victory, analyzing how he overcame a disastrous front nine on Sunday to rally with clutch putting and laser-like driving when it mattered most. His resilience stands in stark contrast to the behavior of several top professionals, including Wyndham Clark, who reportedly damaged lockers in Oakmont's historic clubhouse after missing the cut – earning our official "Douchebag of the Year" nomination. The juxtaposition between Clark's actions and Phil Mickelson graciously signing autographs after his own disappointing finish speaks volumes about respecting the game's traditions.

The Stanley Cup Finals provided another masterclass in dominance as the Florida Panthers overwhelmed the Edmonton Oilers to capture their first championship. We break down how the Panthers led for an astonishing 255 minutes compared to just 34 for the Oilers throughout the series, completely neutralizing Connor McDavid. With significant salary cap space heading into next season, could we be witnessing the birth of hockey's next dynasty?

Meanwhile, the NBA Finals continue to surprise as the underdog Indiana Pacers have shown remarkable tenacity against Oklahoma City. Whether it's TJ McConnell's relentless energy or Tyrese Haliburton's leadership (before injury), we analyze what makes this overachieving team so compelling despite being outmatched on paper.

As summer approaches and major sports wind down, join us for this unfiltered conversation about champions, disappointments, and what true respect for the game really means. Subscribe now and let us know your thoughts on these championship moments!

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Graham (00:07):
Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the
Bench podcast, with your hostsGraham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
What's up everyone?
Welcome back to another episodeof the Bald Guys on the Bench.
Wow, what an exciting weekend.
What a start to, I guess, anexciting week.

(00:30):
Scott.
How you doing, brother?

Scott (00:38):
I'm doing great.
It's late here on the EastCoast.
It's Tuesday night.
A Canadian team lost again inthe Stanley Cup finals.
And not only did they lose, butthey just got domination
station.
I mean, it's only been 31straight years without oh Canada
touching the cup.
So, anyhow, you know, like wealways do, let's grab it and

(01:01):
crack it, brother, before weeven get started.
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
So you know it's a tuesdaynight, stanley cup's over us,
open, and the books.
You know nba finals are aboutto be in the books.
Whenever the hell they play.

(01:22):
You know load management, theymight need a week off in between
games, but you knowhalliburton's got a bold hammy,
so let's, you know, delay it foranother week so he gets healthy
and then loses in the next game.
But whatever, uh, you know,it's tuesday.
It's tuesday, you know.
We always talk about ourweekend, so, graham, get after

(01:46):
it.
How was your weekend, eventhough it's now Tuesday?

Graham (01:50):
uh, weekend was good.
To be honest, weekend wasdominated by the USGA and
Oakmont.
Just watched a lot of golf, dida little bit of work, pretty
much that.
What about you, brother?

Scott (02:02):
well, obviously the US Open dominated my schedule,
watched a lot Saturday afternoon, watched Sunday on Father's Day
, and our games for Kellen'sflag football playoff were
canceled because of the rain.
So I'm like all right, that'scool.

(02:23):
I get to watch the US Open andthen the rain delay.
Rain.
So I'm like, all right, that'scool.
I get to watch the us open andthen the rain delay.
And I'm like, dude, are youkidding me?
Right now there's no hockeytonight, there's no nba, it's
father's day, my wife is sick asa dog.
What are we gonna?
I'm like this is the U?
S open, it's not going tofinish.

(02:44):
And then it did.
And golly day.
I mean it didn't disappoint.
I mean I know we're late to theparty, you're talking about it,
but I don't give a fuck.
It was awesome, it was sick.
Oakmont showed its teeth and ithad the best players in the

(03:07):
world packing their bags after36 holes.
Hey, bryson Buh-buh, I meanJustin Thomas Buh-buh, it had
Shane Lowry, our picks, dude,step Stranka.
It had Shane Lowry literally somind fucked that he literally

(03:31):
picked his ball up on a greenwithout marking it.

Graham (03:36):
Yeah, nuts, unbelievably nuts.

Scott (03:40):
And he's playing in a group that's so set up for him,
with him and his other Irishlucky charm eating asshat Rory.
He's playing with his bestfriend and he's still flustered
to the point where not sure ifyou saw the video he's putting
and he misses a putt and he'slike F?

(04:01):
This place, f?
This place, dude, I don't knowman.
You got Rory smashing T-markers.
You got Rory helicopteringclubs.
You got Wyndham Clarkdestroying lockers at a venue

(04:21):
that its locker room is like amuseum, that its locker room is
like a museum After WyndhamClark, at the PGA Championship a
month ago, hits a drive, turnsaround and throws his driver at
a sign, almost kills a goddamnvolunteer, gets reprimanded,
makes an apology, says I got todo better and then he does this

(04:42):
shit.

Graham (04:45):
I mean.

Scott (04:47):
Dude, you know I've talked to you about this a
million times.
Oakmont, it's the hardest golfcourse in the world.
But not only that, but let'srespect the place, bro.
Oh thanks.
The locker room does not haveair conditioning in it.
Okay, when I walked in thatplace, I could literally smell

(05:11):
the cigars, the ciggies fromyears and years and years of
history.
The benches in front of thelockers they're the original
gangsters.
I can see spike marks whereArnie, where jack, put their
foot down to tie their shoe.
Yeah, and you got this ass hatdestroying lockers.

(05:35):
Like bro, you're not bigger thanthe game.
You won a US Open at LA CountryClub and before that, you were
irrelevant.
You got picked on the Ryder Cupteam.
You're irrelevant.
If all these dudes don't go tolive, guess what?
You probably ain't gettingpicked on the goddamn Ryder Cup

(05:57):
team.
Facts.
And, bro, I'm sorry, you missedthe cut by one by finishing
bogey-bogey on 17 and 18.
That's fine and dandy, butguess what?
Mickelson, probably playing inhis last US Open, misses the cut
by one.
And guess what he's doing inthe parking lot?

(06:17):
He's signing shit for people inthe parking lot.
There's two types of people inthis world douchebag and class.
And Wyndham Clark, you'reofficially the 2025 Douchebag of
the Year nominated by bald guyson the bench.
You can make the winning cup inthe Ryder Cup at Beth Page,

(06:43):
which you're going to qualifyfor and I still nominate you as
douchebag of the year.
You ain't bigger than the game,bro.
Nobody is, not even tiger.
Respect the game.
What is golf, known as thegentleman sport, where you call

(07:05):
a penalty on yourself?
I think my ball moved.
Call a penalty on myself yeah.
Nobody cares.
Wyndham Nobody cares.
Okay, so sorry that my boyFowler sit the bed at LA Country
Club on Sunday playing with you.
And you won, because if youdidn't win, guess what?

(07:28):
You wouldn't be in themotherfucking field, you'd be
out there in Oregon hanging outwith Bill Knight and Nike, cause
you suck ass, you're a one hitwonder.
I mean.
I'm sorry, but, dude, you ain'tbigger than the game.
That's the thing that I hate.
Oakmont's a historic venue,dude.
It's hosted more US Opens thanany club out there.

(07:52):
Okay, we all know that.
We know that.
We know history.
You go into this place, dude,and you do that.
I got nothing.
I got nothing, but you know.

Graham (08:08):
I don't even know Two things, one just reflecting on
what you just mentioned.
I think what you said aboutPhil was probably the nicest
thing you said about him in thelast.
How many episodes Dude I'm?

Scott (08:21):
a Phil fan, bro.
I know, I know I was a Phil fanuntil he went off the deep end.
Yeah, no, I know I'm a Phil fan, bro.
I know, I know I was a Phil fanuntil he went off the deep end.

Graham (08:26):
Yeah, no, I know I'm just cracking a joke.
I loved the rant, by the way.
Just kind of came out ofnowhere.
Love that.

Scott (08:34):
Yeah, but, dude, you don't do this shit.

Graham (08:38):
Oh, I don't disagree with you at all.

Scott (08:39):
It's a venue of all venues.
Okay, it's the hardest US Opengolf course that the boys play.

Graham (08:49):
So I noticed on.
I think it was the Golf ChannelI was watching.
Do you know what state holdsthe most majors?

Scott (09:01):
I don't, but I'm probably going to say California because
of Tori and Pebble.

Graham (09:08):
It's number three, it's three or two.
New York, then that's three ortwo.

Scott (09:16):
So you don't even know the goddamn stats that you're
asking me?

Graham (09:18):
It's no, it's Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is the number oneit has had they've had nine
Because of Oakmont, well,oakmont.
Then there's a place outside of.

Scott (09:31):
Philly Marion.
That I can't think of, but yeahthey've held Marion yeah With
the wicker basket flags.

Graham (09:38):
They've had 95 championships in Pennsylvania.
It was all within the top threethat you just mentioned.
It was a difference of likethree.

Scott (09:51):
You know what I mean so yeah, I believe it was
pennsylvania, california, newyork.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I believe yeah, one, two, three, but when I saw that
I was like wow, but I was prettyshocked by that um dude it was
an amazing.

Scott (10:03):
we don't even need to get into the details of the
tournament Things that stuck outto me in this golf tournament,
Oakmont showed its teeth.
Oh and all I can say is thisyeah, the rough was long.
Yeah, the greens were fast.

(10:24):
If they didn't get that rain,dude, no chance.
Anybody would be under par, nochance.

Graham (10:36):
Facts.

Scott (10:37):
At all.
I mean let's just jump right in.
I mean I know we didn't donotes for tonight.
We were going to talk a littleUS Open, a little hockey, but
dude, jj Spahn goes out firstday.
I mean, yes, he wins, but theguy was best player in the field

(10:58):
from start to finish.

Graham (10:59):
Oh yeah, the most consistent, did he?

Scott (11:02):
shoot 40 on the front nine on Sunday.
I was just going to bring thatup, yeah.

Graham (11:05):
Yeah, the most consistent Did he shoot?
40 on the front, nine on Sunday.
I was just going to bring thatup.

Scott (11:09):
Yeah, he did.
But guess what?
He had one of the worst breaksyou've seen on the second hole.
When he hits that littlewhatever I don't know how many
yards 70-yard wedge to a backleft corner and it bounces off
the flag and comes off the green.
Yeah.
If it doesn't hit the flag andcomes off the green, yeah.

(11:29):
If it doesn't hit the flag,it's five feet two shot swing
Right.
Okay.
And something I learned todaythat I had no idea USDA
championships have a differentflag than what they're used to
playing, and it's it's bigger,it's more stout.
Notice, if you go back andwatch that video, that flag

(11:51):
doesn't move.

Graham (11:51):
That's crazy.
I did not know that.

Scott (11:55):
He could have packed it in dude.
But guess what Rain delay helpshim again.
Guess when else a rain delayhelped our boy, jj Spahn,
players' Championship earlier inthe year.
Yeah, granted, he lost in aplayoff to Rory that year or
that next Monday finish, but thebest thing that happened to JJ

(12:17):
Spahn was that hour and a halfbreak.
Yeah, he got.
They blew the horn before histee shot on nine.
And guess what?
After the Rain Delay comes out,hits a shot on nine.
And guess what, after the raindelay comes out, hits a seed on
nine.
Thanks for playing.
Makes a bottom on 12.
My guy made like 100 foot ofputts bro.

Graham (12:36):
I mean it helps when you sink a 65er.

Scott (12:40):
I mean, he made the longest putt of the event on the
last hole, yeah, but evenbefore that, dude, he shot three
under on the back, yeah, aftershooting five over on the front
and the world's ending.
You know he gets the bad breakon three with the rake and it's
like, oh my God, dude, you hateto watch people get bad breaks

(13:04):
like that.
Like dude, you hate to watchpeople get bad breaks like that.
You know, let's fast forwardreal quick to you know Sam Burns
, on the 15th hole, when heasked for two rules officials to
come over and give him a rulingwhich he called casual water.
Was it casual water?
Yeah, probably was.
But you know that was the end ofSam Burns.

(13:24):
Yeah, and I was talking to somebuddies and you know what, when
you play golf as a career andyou're in the United States open
, you have to be able to forgetthat, put it behind you and step
up and move on and guess whatSam Burns didn't.
You know.
Step up and move on and guesswhat Sam Burns didn't.

(13:46):
You know who did.

Graham (13:52):
JJ Spahn when that ball ricocheted off second hole flag.
You know, I feel like justwatching him this week was just
a continuation of how he's beenplaying this year.
You know, just consistent Onetour win and his only second
time playing the U S open Dude.

Scott (14:10):
It's unbelievable, the shot he hit on 17,.
Obviously he drove the green.
Yeah, it was remarkable, it wasa seed.
I was talking to one of myjunior students today.
The shot, the tee shot he hiton 18 with a one-shot lead,
playing 18 at Oakmont, was alaser beam.
He stepped up, he sacked up andhe goes F the world.

(14:35):
I'm going to rip this thing andI'm going to hit it down the
middle of the fairway and he did.

Graham (14:43):
Got to do what you got to doned up too.

Scott (14:48):
I mean at one point, dude , there were like six guys all
at one over.
Yeah, I'm like holy shit, who'sgonna win this thing?

Graham (14:58):
yeah, it's like around the 12 13th hole.
I'm looking at the leaderboard.

Scott (15:01):
I'm like wait yeah what after adam scott and burns shit
themselves on 11.
Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, whatthe hell is gonna happen?
And literally I'm watching it,kristin's here and after every
shot these guys are hitting.
I'm like, oh, he's dead, he'sdead, he's dead, kristin's.
Like.
You said that about everybodyfor the last 30 minutes.

(15:23):
And then you got Big BobMcIntyre.
Yeah, one of the favorites ofthe show goes out and he bogeys
the first hole, bogeys the thirdhole, then he makes like a 7
million foot eagle putt on thefourth hole and then he goes out

(15:47):
and domination station on theback nine.
He's in the clubhouse at oneover.
I'm like, oh, big Bob, let's goRight, dude, or even sorry, he
was at, even yeah, but dude,what an event.
I mean, when in your life wouldyou ever think that Adam Scott
would, on a Sunday in a major,would shoot whatever 78, 79.

(16:12):
Yeah, never.
I mean, conditions sucked.
And, like I texted you duringthe event, if it wasn't the US
Open, it would have definitelybeen delayed.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh, for sure.

Scott (16:27):
They were trying to get it in.
Yeah, nobody wanted to see forratings.
We all know that.
Nobody wanted to see a Mondayratings, we all know that Nobody
wanted to see a Monday finish.
No, no, I totally agree.
Dude people bitching about thegolf course and how hard it was
and the rough and this and thatDude.
Do you like watching golftournaments on the PGA Tour
where it's 27 under wins?

(16:48):
I don't 27 under wins.

Graham (16:52):
I don't know.
The White Tiger even made acomment about that.
He's just like look, it's justa completely different golf
tournament.
He's like you know, the Mastersversus the Open versus the US
Open.
They're all different in theirown aspects.
They're all different in theirown aspects.
Yeah, and what's great about itis you have to have different

(17:15):
styles of game for each type ofcourse, or should I say major
that you're playing in?
You know what I mean.
It's just like the Masters isall about shaping your shots,
playing around the green,putting and stuff, and not only
that, but let's go back to thisyear's Masters, rory hitting
that 7-iron hook around thecorner on 15.

Scott (17:38):
Yeah, that type of shit don't happen at a US Open.
No, you know what I mean.
Like we said on the lastepisode, when par is a good
score, these guys are grindingfor fours.

Graham (17:53):
It's awesome all right, let me ask you this question do
you think the sentiment of thistournament would have been
different from the outsideviewers if more of the top
contenders actually made the cut?

Scott (18:07):
yeah, I mean obviously the guys that set the bar.
You know, I mean bryson, weobviously know his following,
since he's 100 turned his imagearound, yeah, and youtube and
everything, yeah, you know himmissing the cut sucked,
especially a straight of adriver as he is.
Yeah, that was kind of weird.

(18:28):
I mean, straka low are theyhuge names?
And professional golf, no, butthere was never a major
championship.
That was made for them, right.
And and the one thing we keptsaying leading up to the U S
open was what I liked thosedudes If it plays firm and fast,

(18:50):
and and what happened?
They got a shit ton of rain onMonday practice round, right,
and then they got a shit ton ofrain on Saturday and Sunday, I
mean Friday night.
They got a shit ton of rain,dude, there were 13 groups or 13
players didn't even get tofinish.
But you know it is what it is.

(19:12):
The USGA sets up the golf courseand they want the best player
in the field to win and a lot oftimes they want one person to
finish under par.
One person finish under par, Imight be wrong, but the only
person, the only US Open that Ican remember where only one

(19:33):
person finished under parrecently, and when I say
recently, not really recentlywas 1999 at Pinehurst, when
Payne Stewart was the onlyperson that finished under par.
But dude, I don't know.
Bitch moan about the venue, sayit was too hard, say it was.
You know.
Here's the deal.
Why did they cut those areas soshort?

(19:55):
Called the fairways?
Yeah, because it's easier tocontrol your golf ball from them
.

Graham (20:05):
There's a reason for everything, folks.
It's just like it's not even acomplaining thing, but it's just
like.
For one tournament out of theyear can we just have something
that it's just like alright.
Can we see what these guys arereally made of?
It's just like.
Sometimes, people forget thatit's just like okay, yeah,

(20:25):
they're professionals, but thelevel of being professional or
should I say this To comprehendhow good they are, is tough
enough.
But then to see someone that'sthat good and still struggle on
a course, for me I don't want tosay like what we watched makes

(20:46):
them look human, but it almostkind of.
Does you know what I mean?
It's just like there's too manynot kind of it almost kind of.
Does you know what I mean?
It's just like there's too manyNot kind of.

Scott (20:55):
Did you see the wedge Jordan hit when it was deep
buried in the rough?
Full swing, full swing, and itwent like four yards.
Did you see Scotty playing the72nd hole at the US Open and he
literally had to aim sidewaysand swung as hard as he could to

(21:16):
hit it?
40 yards, dude, they're thebest players in the world.
The US Open is the biggest testout there.
Guess what?
It is strange, and that's thething you ain't got a bomb
driver.

Graham (21:33):
In comparison to a tournament that you're going low
at.
My thing with that is like,yeah, I mean it's great to see
birdies and stuff, but a lot ofthe time you're just watching
players get hot.
You know what I mean.
Like there's a difference withthe US Open.
The American Express in PalmSprings.

Scott (21:51):
What I mean, like there's a difference with the us open,
the american express in palmsprings.
You go out there and you shoot67 and you just lost strokes to
the field.
I mean that ain't fun, dude,exactly.
I mean every major has its.
You know well, not every, notevery.
We'll call the US Open theMasters and the British.

(22:14):
They all have their own feel,right, you know the Masters, the
back nine on Sunday at Augusta,you know you got the par fives
that are reachable, that are.
You know you got the pinplacements where you can rip it
back.
And then you know the US Openis known for how tough it's
going to be.
The Open Championship is knownfor the weather and link-style

(22:38):
golf courses.
The PGA has been stepping upand I mean I don't remember what
Scotty shot, but I think itwasn't deep, it was 11 under and
that's why everybody bitchedand moaned about the pga last
year at valhalla because zandershot a million under.
You know, but I don't know, itwas an amazing event, dude, it

(23:01):
didn't disappoint.
And to hear the story about jj,sunday early morning at 3 am
having to go get something forhis daughter who had a stomach
virus at the pharmacy onFather's Day.
Dude, it was awesome.

(23:23):
It was awesome.
I'm sitting here on that hole.
He got that 64-foot putt andI'm just like, oh my god, this
has got to be the craziest thingever.
What is his mind going through?
I'm like there's no chance he'stwo-putting.
Then he goes and Kristen looksat me and goes you're right,

(23:44):
dude.

Graham (23:44):
Dude, I love watching the replay and they show or not
the replay, but there was a clipwhere they're interviewing
Tyrell Hatton while he's Afterhe almost had a temper tantrum.

Scott (24:03):
Dude, on the 17 hole, my guy is just like ripping wedges
and you know he's right thereand he's like makes bogey on 17
and he's like getting ready,like I had 12 buddies all text
me and he's like, dude, he'sgonna burn the clubhouse down.
You know my dad's like, oh mygod, he's getting ready to have
a temper tantrum.
Thank god that happened, youknow, because it called me down

(24:26):
for sure.
And the coolest thing not thethunder, the coolest thing I
thought was was big bob in thelocker room watching it on TV,
sitting there at even par.
If JJ three putts from 64 feet,which is very likely, they're
in a playoff the next day.
Jj hoops it and Big Bob is justsitting back in his chair

(24:50):
clapping and he goes.
Wow, kudos to him.
That's what golf is about.
It ain't about douchebags namedwyndham clark saving in a
locker room.
That's a museum, I concur.
But anyhow, dude, it was a sickevent.
It was sick, I love it.
It was a sick event, it wassick, I love it, it was awesome.

(25:11):
And, like we've talked about onthis show before, you know,
until the first time I ever wentto Augusta, the US Open was my
favorite major Because I got togo to my first one in 99 when
Payne Stewart won, then 05 whenmy boy Eric was there, and then
Torrey in 08.
And Augusta my first trip toAugusta wasn't until 15.

(25:32):
And you know they're 1A and 1B,you know just for the two
reasons.

Graham (25:40):
They're just so different.
You can't.
Yes, definitely, it's just, youknow, with the Masters.
It's just the nostalgic aspectof it in the history.

Scott (25:50):
And the history.
We know in the history and thehistory, we know all the shots
that have been hit on this hole,that hole, and you know it's
the only major that goes back tothe same place.

Graham (26:02):
Yeah, you know every hole has one shot.
People are like, hey, youremember back 10 years ago on
the first hole, and then on thesecond hole, then on the third
hole, there's always one shotfrom somebody.
You're just like, oh yeah,totally remember that.

Scott (26:16):
So yeah, it was sick dude .
It was awesome, it was a greattournament, fun watching.
But I don't know, let's rollinto Stanley cup playoffs.
I mean, geez, louise, I knowyou were pulling for the Oilers
and I even got yelled at andcalled it back for him because I
was pulling for the Panthers byyou.

Graham (26:37):
But you know, whatever I did, not say yeah, you did,
yeah, you did.

Scott (26:44):
You were bitter, Betty, because you lost the bet and you
were all mad.
You know, whatever it is, whatit is, but we're not even going
to go there.
But dude, the Panthers justdominated.
Yeah, I mean just straightdominated.
And by dominate I mean I thinkI was telling you something

(27:07):
earlier.
You know what domination is.
Something earlier, you knowwhat domination is?
The Panthers led the StanleyCup finals for 255 minutes to 34
minutes for the Oilers.

Graham (27:20):
That's insane.

Scott (27:24):
You know what else is insane?
Guess who has the highest capspace next year.

Graham (27:31):
The Panthers.
How is that possible?

Scott (27:35):
Dude, you ready to see a dynasty?

Graham (27:40):
How are they not one already?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
They were there three years in a row.

Scott (27:48):
Who beat them the first year?

Graham (27:50):
I can't give you a bigger alley-oop than that, bro
in five games.

Scott (27:56):
But dude, I mean I don't know, speaking of jj, spawn real
quick.
I saw this the other night andI was just like holy shit,
sports are insane.
He was a walk-on dude at SanDiego State.

Graham (28:11):
I knew you were going to bring this up.
I had it and I was debating tosay it Go ahead.

Scott (28:16):
Yeah, he was a walk-on at San Diego State.
The low amateur at the US Open,justin Hastings, san Diego
State.
You know who else played at SanDiego State?
Some dude that won the Openlast year and a dude that won
the PGA last year, xander.

Graham (28:36):
Tell you one thing the athletic director is like yo, so
the golf team needs.

Scott (28:43):
Yeah, dude.
But oh, man, I don't know, Idon't know.
So.
Stanley Cup Finals you know,panthers raise a cup again.
Sam Bennett, man, I don't know,I don't know.
So, stanley Cup Finals you know, panthers raise a cup again.
Sam Bennett, dude.
Sam Bennett gets a.
Oh, the Doyers are about to hita bomb.
Yep, the Doyers just took thelead.
Sam Bennett gets a consmith.

(29:04):
It could have gone in so manydifferent directions.
I mean, reinhardt scored fourgoals tonight, marchand
dominated the series.
And then I'm like, oh my God,sam Bennett gets to Sam, he
dominated the entire playoffs,something we forget.
Remember the Panthers opened upthe playoffs on the road at

(29:28):
Toronto and lost both games inToronto, the first two games of
their playoff, their playoffyear.
They were O2 going back toFlorida, I just Exactly so the
Oilers, first team to do this in47 years, lose to the same

(29:53):
opponent in consecutive yearsfor the championship.

Graham (29:59):
I mean it was close, I'm so sorry, I mean the overtime
game, it's so hard to saygoodbye to yesterday.

Scott (30:14):
Connor McDavid, Dry Side Off oh my god Peace out.

Graham (30:19):
Cub Scout and folks, if any of you had my boy Scotty Wah
singing Boyz II Men on thebingo card tonight, you just won
a million dollars.

Scott (30:31):
Hey, they heard it once with my boy, keenan Allen.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Might as well hear it again.

Scott (30:35):
I mean just saying, I'm sorry.

Graham (30:42):
Oh my God, that is.

Scott (30:46):
I'm sorry, but you know I ain't mad at it, dude, I ain't
mad at it.
I don't hate Conor McDavid, buthow you know, I ain't mad at it
, dude, I ain't mad at it.
I don't hate Conor McDavid, buthow many goals did he score
this whole Stanley Cup in sixgames?
Zero, one more than me and you.
And I'm not bashing him aboutthat, because Florida is a

(31:08):
heavier team and they're morephysical.
But the Oilers are faster,except for Evander Kane, who was
fast to get the fuck kicked outof tonight because he was a
cheap shot artist.
What a piece of shit.
I'd love to see him and RyanReeves go at it again.
Oh, that was amazing.
What a piece of shit, dude.
Then it doesn't even come tothe handshake line.
I mean, come on, evander Kane.

(31:28):
I don't know, dude, stanleyCup's over.
We've got to wait until October.
The playoffs were solid thisyear.
I mean we saw a lot of crazyshit at the end of games.
I mean, going back to theKnights-Oilers night score with
point whatever seconds left towin the game.
Oilers did it.
The Panthers did it the othernight with 19 seconds left and

(31:49):
lost in overtime.
Dude, panthers did it the othernight with 19 seconds left and
lost in overtime, dude, we saw alot of amazing games and that's
why Stanley Cup playoffs aresick, dude.
I mean all right.
So I know we talked about thisway back when, when the Knights
won and we did our emergencyepisode.
You know, when in the cup, youget the cup for 24 hours, so

(32:11):
fast forward to 2025.
When I ask you, what would youdo in the cup?
You get the cup for 24 hours,so fast forward to 2025,.
When I ask you, what would youdo with the cup for 24 hours?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
man.

Scott (32:22):
Uh which is an amazing tradition, I mean so sick.

Graham (32:28):
I?
I mean, I'm trying to thinkwhat I can flex on with it.
I mean, that's all I would dowith it.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah.

Graham (32:36):
I saw I mean I remember when the Knights won seeing all
the pictures on social media ofsome of the players taking it to
the golf course taking shotsthere, them taking it to the
different day clubs and nightclubs.
There, you know, them taking itto the different day clubs and
night clubs.
I mean, to be honest, the mostthings that I would care about

(32:56):
is just drinking out of it.
You know, pouring a bunch ofbeer in there and sipping out of
it, but you know what I woulddo with it.
Probably have you fly out andsay, hey, let's go out and do
something.
You know what I mean.
I don't know.

Scott (33:09):
Probably so.
You're telling me I'm not atthe game, clinching.
I mean, if you're a player,your boy's not there at the game
when you clinch you're gonnamake me fly out right now.
I mean god, come on, guy, am Iflying commercial now too?
I mean, if you're an NHL playerand your boy's, I'm flying

(33:30):
commercial.
Thanks for him.
I thought we were friends.

Graham (33:31):
I know you're giving NHL player and you're boys, I'm
flying commercial.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Thanks, Graham, I thought we were friends.

Scott (33:33):
I know you're giving me a bad friend the other night for
pulling for the.
Panthers.
I mean, now it really makessense.
I mean, I know Conor McDavidplayed in Erie.
You know he played in Erie,your hometown.
But the question thateverybody's asking themselves
right about now why is Grahampulling for the Oilers?
Okay, folks, that's becauseConnor McDavid played in.

Graham (33:54):
Erie for the Otters.
Yeah, what is the championship?

Scott (33:55):
So my question to you is how many games did you go see
Connor McDavid play when he wasin Erie Otter?
And that, folks, is the sameamount as us Zero.
So you're welcome.
Continue on with what you'regoing to do with the cup.
You're welcome.

Graham (34:12):
I've seen at least one.

Scott (34:19):
Not with McDavid playing.

Graham (34:21):
Yeah, and besides.

Scott (34:24):
All right, here's the question Show me your hands.

Graham (34:26):
Oh, I know what you're going to ask me.
Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
What?
What's his number?

Scott (34:31):
What was his number?
What was his number?
How old was he when he playedfor the Erie Otters 17.

Graham (34:40):
16, 16, 17, 16?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
15.
16?
.

Scott (34:45):
No, you're wrong, and his number's 97.

Graham (34:48):
Yeah, I know that.
I'm just saying, I'm sayingback when it was an Erie.

Scott (34:51):
No, you're not, because you were questioning 17.
I don't care what his numberwas in Erie.
Nobody cares what his numberwas in Erie.

Graham (35:00):
I mean whatever, hey, it's the hockey puck stuff that
inflated.
All right, Calm down over there.

Scott (35:06):
You told me, mr Erie Otter fan, I mean blame Canada,
hey, he was in the OHL broExactly.

Graham (35:19):
Exactly Just as I've spent many a time in Canada.

Scott (35:22):
All right times, all right, let's jump having a good
old time what would you eat somepoutine and go phone your mom
from the washroom?

Graham (35:31):
sit on the cooch.
Hey, niagara falls.
You can have a lot of fun upthere, bro, just when you know
yeah, just ask those bills fanswhat they do in the winter.
They go to Sabres games.

Scott (35:44):
Yeah, because they're real good.

Graham (35:46):
Oh, it must be nice to finally support a hockey team
and they just go to the StanleyCup Finals the first year and
have been relevant every yearsince their existence.
I mean you might as well havestarted with the Utah Hockey
Club or whatever they're callednow.
Start with them, why would Istart there?
My point is I find it hilariousthat once you get into it and I

(36:09):
get the reasons why I get it, Iget it.
I'm just saying you know, theconvenience of them being good
right away and continuing to begood is Dude, not only being
good.
Yeah, they.

Scott (36:23):
I mean I get it.
That's why they call it no theynot the first year.

Graham (36:27):
I know that you're one.

Scott (36:29):
They were.
They were the misfit dude.
Nobody wanted them, nobodyprotected them and they
dominated it.
And you remember, you rememberI always said it going, going
into the Stanley Cup Finals ifwe win, I'm never watching
another hockey game again.
I win in year one.
As a fan, I'm out.

Graham (36:49):
It don't get better than that.
We were this close folks.
We were this close hey we wongame one.

Scott (37:00):
We were this close dude.
Anyhow, nba finals is it over.
I tell you what is over.
You're bet.
You know, here we go.
Can we get a sigh?
Can we get a sigh?

Graham (37:19):
can you see this?
Yeah, I see some old lady, ifyou don't know who that old lady
is sigh.

Scott (37:21):
Can we get a sigh?
Can you see this?
Yeah, I see some old lady Ifyou don't know who that old lady
is.
Is that homegirl from theGolden Girls?
And folks by bet Graham bet, hethrew a text out to our Fantasy
League that said I'll takeanybody on 10-1 odds for
whatever you want to do.
That Thunder win in five games.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah.

Graham (37:46):
Considering the current odds were 3 to 1.

Scott (37:51):
Whatever, but anyhow, where's the game?
Is the game tomorrow or theyneed load management and need to
take a week?

Graham (37:58):
off.
I mean I'm just asking they dothree days in between.
It's not.

Scott (38:05):
Why?
Because the NBA is morephysical than hockey.

Graham (38:07):
No, it's called TV contracts.
Hockey would have them, butsince they don't take timeouts
ever, there's not a lot of moneyin that for the networks.

Scott (38:19):
Because it's more exciting.

Graham (38:21):
Oh, I'm sorry, Coming from the guy that's like oh, I
can't take a piss right nowbecause there's no time out.

Scott (38:28):
And hockey.
I know it's great.
Thank God for YouTube TVbecause I can watch it on my
phone as I'm taking a leak now.

Graham (38:37):
Thank God, and to think how much I had to harass you to
get YouTube TV to leave directTV.

Scott (38:45):
Well, when they started sending me those goddamn bills
and lost the NFL ticket, kickrocks, it ain't that hard.
But I mean, what do you think?
I don't even know what the lineis for the next game.

Graham (39:00):
Every game the line's been nine and a half.

Scott (39:04):
Except for the first game back in Indy.

Graham (39:08):
Yeah, because they were up 2-1.
And I think it was six.

Scott (39:11):
No it was 1-1.
It was 1-1.

Graham (39:13):
Yeah, it was six and a half.

Scott (39:15):
Yeah, if I remember correctly, six and a half or
five and a half Under, favoredby six and a half going into
this game.

Graham (39:22):
Yeah, I mean, look, obviously I thought this was
going to be a breeze from thebeginning, kind of like everyone
else.
Look, I and a lot of otherpeople underestimated the grit
of the Indiana Pacers.
I've never or I'm going to saynever, but I can't remember in

(39:48):
the long years that I've beenwatching the NBA a team that and
well together, but do it in away of you know how a coach

(40:13):
always says what they tell theirplayers.
It's just like you got to workharder than the next guy.
It's all about the effort.
It's all about the effort.
It's like you've got to workharder than the next guy.
It's all about the effort.
It's all about the effort.
And when you watch the Pacersespecially the games that they
won or and even the games thatthey lost, but they came back
when they were down by 20 pointsthe effort and tenacity that
the Pacers give and leave out onthe court.

Scott (40:35):
They did it the other night too.
It's just like they did it theother night.
It's just like you can't coachthat.

Graham (40:39):
It's just like you can't coach that.
And in sports sometimes, likein hockey, what do they say?
Just shoot at the net, justshoot at the net, shoot at the
net, something's bound to go in.
And that's just what I thinkabout the Pacers.
It's just like their tenacityon defense and how they play the

(41:01):
offense and just gettingeveryone involved.
I mean, look, tj McConnell,their backup point guard, the
white guy.
Never heard of this guy.
I'm watching him in theplayoffs and I'm like this dude
is acting like it's game sevenof the NBA finals, every playoff
game that he's been in giving110% effort.
And it just seemed like everyplayer was giving 110% effort.
And it just seemed like everyplayer was giving 110% effort.
And look, to say that all teamsdon't give 110% effort Cause

(41:25):
they're in the playoffs or, andespecially now that they're in
the finals, is ridiculous to say.
But like it's noticeable, likevery noticeable, when you watch
the game and look, when you're aprofessional and you're paid to
make shots, dude, all you needto do is get hot.
So if a team can get hot andthey play with that tenacity,

(41:49):
you know you have a goodshooting percentage.
You're gonna win some games,and that's what's happened in
this series and you know the waythe pacers play.
It can be very demoralizing tothe other team if it can't be
stopped.
You know what I mean.
Like they play fast, they playfull court defense from the
start.

(42:09):
You know what I mean.
They rotate all their guys soeveryone stays fresh.
And when you just have thatmuch intensity, every minute of
every game, for all the games,it, you know, it just gets
relentless and tiring.
To the other team.
I mean credit to okc, you know,for you know making the
adjustments that they needed tomake.
I mean, look, on paper, is okcthe better team?

(42:32):
Yes, but as we've seen, somesometimes being the better team
doesn't mean anything, you know%.
You know what I mean.
So I kind of feel like in thislast game, okc is figuring out
more how to play the Pacers, butalso to be fair and give credit

(42:52):
where credit is due.
Halliburton got hurt.
He didn't play the whole gameand we've already established
this in the previous episode forsomeone that's been, that was
named the most overrated playerin the NBA by his peers.
That dude is the heart and soulof his team and the ball runs
through him on everything forhim not to be there.

(43:15):
You know it's just like and I'msure you'll agree with me on
this Even if you want a certainteam to win, okay, fine, but you
don't want to win, you don'twant to see a team win because
the other team's best player gothurt.
You know what I mean.

(43:37):
It's just like yeah, I meanthey're going to win and I get
it.
I mean it's like in football.
It's just like, yeah, I meanthey're going to win and I get
it.
I mean it's like in football.
It's just like, oh well,patrick Mahomes went down.
Oh, it sucks to be you andwe're going to win.
Like, yeah, I get that.
But it's just like, if PatrickMahomes goes down in the first
quarter and they get annihilated, are we going to say, oh, the
other team played the mostamazing game and they deserve to

(43:58):
win a bowl?
I was like no, their bestplayer went down.
Did they get the win?

Scott (44:03):
Yeah, I mean look at the look at the Eagles, the Eagles
and Niners NFC championship gamea couple of years ago, when
Purdy goes down.

Graham (44:10):
Domination station.
It wasn't even close.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah.

Graham (44:14):
And the worst part is is I think Purdy was the third
string, Brady was the thirdquarterback that year anyway for
most of that year.

Scott (44:25):
Yeah, that's my point.

Graham (44:27):
Yeah, but he was a starter in that game.
It is what it is.
Do I think the Pacers couldhave a chance at home?
I really do.
It really just comes down tohow well is OKC going to be
coached up to close them out.
So we'll see.
I don't know, I might lean thePacers, and here's the thing I

(44:50):
told you via our text In a lotof these games I have no idea
what to bet Because, yeah, theline is at this number.

Scott (45:01):
I lost the first half over last night by a half a
point and I watched both teamsliterally miss about 37 free
throws.

Graham (45:11):
There's some of them, that's just like the points, the
overs, whether it be firstquarter, half and end, I just
you never know.
Because, like you said, they'restill making these games at
minus nine and a half and you'relike, besides one of them, the
Pacers have either won orbasically the Pacers have

(45:32):
covered most of them.
So I'm like, well, I'm notgoing to take them at the start.
So it's just like I don't know,Like I don't know, Like I don't
know, I'm going to probablymost likely take the Pacers in
game six.
And I tell you one thing Ithink it would be good for the

(45:52):
NBA if they take it to seven.
But I will say, if OKC wants towin, this is definitely their
year, because it's either nextyear or the year after.
That's when they got to startpaying those guys.
And it's just like and thecraziest part is it's the whole,

(46:13):
I think we mentioned this acouple episodes ago how OKC's
team was built, basically offPaul George, the Paul George
trade Insane.

Scott (46:30):
Insane.

Graham (46:33):
Honestly, the only other news that I feel like worth
mentioning and I'm just going tobe a homer about it and I don't
really give a shit is hey wordon the street is Aaron Rodgers
is looking kind of nice and Iknow it's OTAs.
I get it.
Folks, it's June, I get it.
Calm down.
I'm not calling the MVP, I'mnot saying any of that shit.

(46:55):
For all the hate that peoplehave been talking about.
With Aaron Rodgers, he's sayingthe right words and turning the
naysayers around in Pittsburghand a lot of the local reporters
are coming around and he'sshowing commitment to the team
and coaching up Will Howard andjust being accountable and it's

(47:17):
just like a lot of the thingsI've been hearing is, you know,
what he's bringing to thefranchise is being well-received
, I guess.

Scott (47:29):
What he should do.
But it's late.
Here on the East Coast yourboy's got to work tomorrow.
It sucks, there's no morehockey until October.
But you know?
But something I just saw,Senator TP Jack Kings has
already got odds out for nextyear to raise the cup.

(47:50):
And I don't get how they do this.
You know there's a lot ofoffseason shit going to happen
trades, free agents leaving,they got Edmonton at plus 650.
Yeah, don't bet that, I mean nochance.
Free agents leaving, they gotEdmonton at plus 650.
Yeah, don't bet that, I mean nochance.
Panthers plus 700.
Stars 900.
Hurricanes 900.

(48:11):
Avalanche 1,000.
Knights 1,200.
Lightning 1,400.
Maple Leafs plus 2,000.
Yeah, that ain't happening.
But here we go.
Facts It'ss plus 2000.
Yeah, that ain't happening.
But here we go.
Facts it's next year already.
But as we sit here on thisTuesday night, Stanley Cup was

(48:32):
raised.
It's the end.
But US Open's over.
We got the British in a month.
We got the Travelers, which isa fucking joke, dude.
You got a signature event theweek after.
These guys just got their dickskicked in at Oakmont and now
you expect them to go play golfthere.
God knows, Dude.
I'm going to tell you straightup, Cameron Young.

Graham (48:57):
He played well.

Scott (48:59):
I like it, let's go.

Graham (49:02):
Well, it's almost like the end of an era.
Nhl.
We thank you.
It was a good season.
I enjoyed myself in theplayoffs.
Nba we got one game, possiblytwo.
Left man, it's the summertime,Baseball, Dog days of summer.

(49:24):
Hey, you know what that meansthe dog days of summer.
Fantasy football preparation.
Let's go, baby Scott.
It's always a pleasure doingthe podcast with you and, as the
best homie always says, buh-byeGood night friends.

Scott (49:40):
Good night, Wyndham Clark .
Why don't you go kick yourfucking car?
Not a museum of a locker roomat Oakmont.
You and your Oregon ducks cango.
Quack away, you douchebag.
Buh-bye, Buh-bye.

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