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Ballpark beef is back at it we got
some draft highlights to tell you about we got the raging hot new york new york
mets to talk about we got a hot take on one soda we'll see what that topic's
like but after we roll the music Thanks for watching.
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Music.
Yo yo yo welcome back to another episode of ballpark
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every platform i lied but i like
to believe so we're back another week another week of hot takes and jimmy capping
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out his ass and i have a spicy yankee take today because i'm getting a little
fed up with this fucking team so without further ado i'll let the the quickest man here,
goes by the name nick not only quick on the podcast but quick in any other aspect
of his life nick tell us about the cardinals in 15 seconds before i tell you
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about the cardinals is there something wrong with you not caring about how our
weeks have been in the last two weeks because you You haven't been asking us.
You know, it's nice to tell the fans that the gang got together for our fantasy
draft this week. No, sure.
Guys, how was your week? I'm just trying to get to business here.
I'm excited. Nobody wants to hear about your shitty Yankees.
I want to hear about everyone's lives in the last week.
The reason for this podcast is to talk about baseball.
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But yeah, I understand that. But you always ask how we've been doing.
And all of a sudden, since the Yankees are playing like shit,
you don't want to ask us anymore.
The reason for this podcast is to connect with our brothers.
That's the reason I'm staying on that business.
Yeah all right yeah i mean that's a fair point but uh yeah i kind of just brushed
over it recently so let's let's start this over fellas how how all right we're
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gonna take this from the top ballpark beef is back at it again with another
episode baby and we're gonna roll that music.
Yeah yeah welcome back guys
how was your week yeah how was your
week i mean man listen i i had a good i mean it's
over with now so we'll just go on to the next i got to
see the boys and like i went to the zoo you're not
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even into it anymore bro so so you know uh let me just tell you guys about the
shitty cardinals all right wait wait wait wait wait before you went to the zoo
yeah went to the bronx zoo on monday yeah what was your favorite animal you
saw dude honestly like we took the worst path ever let me tell you something
all right let's get into this real
quick oh here we go see now we get into it so like when
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you go to the zoo you need to have a game plan we did not
have a game plan okay when you go into the zoo you got
to know where you're going what animals you're going to see first what area you're
going to first because the bronx zoo is fucking huge if
for any listeners who ever been there and i don't know if you guys have been
there but it's huge so we went to the completely wrong area and we missed all
the good fucking animals we went to the tiger mountain the tiger was all the
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way in the back laying down that was a party Pooper and we didn't see anything
cool By the time we got to the giraffes The elephants,
the lions They were all gone, they were put inside Because at 4.30 all the animals
go inside So it honestly It.
Bronx Zoo was fun, but it sucked. Alright? Guys, listen.
If you're ever going to the Bronx Zoo, make sure you have a game plan and always
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take the path to the right. That's where all the cool shit is.
I made the mistake and we didn't see all the cool shit. But, yeah, I went to the zoo.
That's coming from a guy who never has a game plan when he goes out.
Mmm. Mmm. Let me tell you a story about no game plan.
So, first of all, this is why you don't go to the Bronx Zoo.
Because you should just go right I pass the Bronx Zoo and go see a Mets game
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in Queens. You feel me? Forget Bronx.
But anyway, I'm not going to make this all about me. But talk about not having a game plan.
This guy wanders like a little lost duckling without a game plan.
He just like waltzes around the world, not a care, just like waiting for somebody
else to guide him. Like he has no problem being guided.
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Yeah. He asked him what we're doing and he has no clue. And somehow I was the
tour guide at the Bronx Zoo.
I was the worst person to be the tour guide and they all followed me.
And that's why you had a bad time because you were the tour guide.
Exactly. So next time we go to the Bronx Zoo, I am not leading the pact.
I'm staying. So here's my other thing. All right. Since we're into this now, I have ADHD.
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If you guys didn't know, my brain is in 13 different positions at once.
Nick's typing something.
And so when I'm somewhere, I like to see an animal and keep going.
The people i was with i.e my
wife and her family they sorry they
like to stand talk at each
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each animal take 50 million pictures i like to see the animal one picture on
to the next all right wait wait wait wait they talk to the animals no they they
don't talk to animals they like they like sit and chill they sit and chill they
they they watch they take pictures at least the animals some time to do something different.
Yeah, but I'm like, alright, cool. I saw a bear. Let's move on.
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So I'm always like 50 yards in front of them, and they're just strolling back
there, and yeah, that's what's happening. But yeah, let's go.
So his wife overheard him oh my god that's too funny we wouldn't have these
great conversations if we didn't ask how our week went,
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that's okay and that's what you have to do occasionally you just have to ask
how the week's going so basically.
Hi we have a guest we have a special guest should you introduce yourself hi I'm Mrs.
Wagner Johnson's wife hi
mrs wagner hi so basically this
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whole bronx zoo little spiel that
he just had he likes to look at the animal like
the bear was in his little like you know his little tub
basically of water and jonathan
just sees this the bear's head and wants to leave what if the bear leaves and
does that beautiful shape and we you know miss all of that if we would have
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left when you left we We wouldn't have saw the mama bear and the papa bear coming
up on top of the mountain on top to see the little cub.
It was a beautiful thing to see. So he likes to rush life a little bit too much.
Okay. All right. And that was a my wife. Let's stop and smell the roses, fam.
That's the that's the that's the the motto today. Stop and smell the roses.
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That's going to be the title of the episode. I love baseball.
Forget football. Forget fantasy.
Stop and smell the roses, folks. That's that. We can we can find the reporting right here. actually.
Yeah. Let's just press. No. All right. Let's, let's be serious guys.
How was your week? I just had a whole six minutes.
We're past that. We're past that. All right. We're on the 15 second recap of the Cardinals.
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All right. 15 seconds. Plump and dump. Let's go.
Cardinals are playing how they have been playing all year. Five and five in
the last 10, 69 and 69 as a record.
Like we said, 500 baseball, two out of four against the Padres,
you know, took two out of three against the Yankees, and after that series,
it's safe to say that the Yankees can't beat any team in this podcast.
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6-3 lost, 6-5 win, and then smacked them 14-7.
But Cardinals have 22 games left. Highlight of their season.
22 games left, and they're 5.5 back.
They have less than 1% chance of making the playoffs.
I just don't see it happening. I mean, I would say the best way to sum up the
Cardinals season is, you know, our best player, Nolan Arenado,
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has 15 home runs and 70 RBIs.
I mean, you're not going to win a lot of games when your best player is doing
that. But, hey, in about a week, I can say the Cardinals are pretty much eliminated.
30 seconds. Good job. Proud of you. 30 seconds.
Yeah, the Cardinals suck. They're playing 500 ball. They're not going anywhere.
Nick, it's like in life. It's a pump and dump.
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They're done this year. Okay? You reboot.
Hopefully, you do something with the old guys in the offseason,
and you turn this team around and become the Cardinals that we know.
Because the Cardinals aren't a bad franchise.
The Cardinals are a very storied franchise. Second best franchise behind the New York Yankees.
Did you sneeze? No, no, no. Just cleared my throat.
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It was from all the pumping and dumping. But yeah. Pumping and dumping.
The Cardinals need to reboot, get back to winning ways. It's not happening this
season. Nick understands that.
And it's time for a reboot. But since Jimmy's waiting to talk about these Mets,
and I have a whole spiel about the Yankees, I'm going to let him take over.
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And then we're going to go into that.
So jimmy tell us about the team in the queens the team
that sucks the team that has two world series rings the
team that the mets want to be the yankees like just
go are you are you sick or something have
you not been watching baseball last week last week
the mets beat the cardinal sorry the the
arizona diamondbacks i can't even remember the
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team names at this point because you got me so furious arizona diamond
diamondbacks number one team or yeah number one
team in the wildcard race beat them chicago white socks dumpster
fire of the of the mlb season swept them beat
boston yesterday and now we're up 2-1 against boston tonight
so when we're in the playoffs and we're making
it further than the yankees because the yankees are then you're gonna
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be you're gonna be jealous that's all it's as simple as that
francisco lindor is gonna win his mvp his first mvp
he's only placed top five in two years i
think i think he was top he was fifth twice and this
is the year baby this is the year no less than second place finish shohei
otani plays one side of the ball and he doesn't deserve it
not a hot take i don't care if it gets 50 50
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francisco indoors 30 30 with gold glove defense hitting 270 after hitting 070
for the first month of the season yeah that's impressive i'm sorry francisco
indoor on another level leading the league in in every category ever that's
that's a lie but still francisco Glyndwr, dog.
I'm still waiting for Jimmy to order his jersey.
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I might. I might after the MVP season. I might. All right. You mean the second place MVP?
No, he's going to win MVP this year. He's going to lead them.
If the Mets make the playoffs. Put a 4-4 on it.
If the Mets make the playoffs, Francisco Lindor definitely deserves the MVP. Put a 4-4 on it.
Two 4-4s. I bet.
Let's hear about the Stankys now. Okay. So, the Yankees still have the best
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record in Major League Baseball.
No, they don't. Okay, they have the second best.
But I just have a few things that it just doesn't make sense,
okay? Now, let's break this down. Yes, they're a good team.
Yes, they played 500 ball the last 10 days. There's a reason why.
There's a reason why. You guys want to know why? Because they continue to play
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DJ LeMayhew. They continue to play Jose Trevino.
They continue to play these fucking guys who don't deserve to be in the league.
League okay they play like jason
dominguez has not been called up why why has
he not been called up i couldn't tell you maybe because you don't need him but
you think they like verdugo i think jason dominguez is better than verdugo verdugo
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sucks okay yeah remember remember when you're putting verdugo over nimmo that's
a whole nother conversation i got
the clip too i got the tapes We got the receipts, and yo ass was wrong.
And we keep running out DJ LeMayu. I don't know why.
Couldn't tell you. I don't think he even starts on the Mets.
I don't think he even starts on the Cardinals. He sucks.
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Okay? He sucks. And they run him out. Listen, man.
We need to win the AL East. We need to. We can't come in second place.
There's so many benefits to us winning the AL East. And if we're not plating
the best team every day, Jason Dominguez should be a part of that to be the best team.
And we're letting DJ LeMayu start. Jose Trevino, I understand catchers need
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some off days. I get that. That's fine.
Also should be the starting catcher moving forward regardless but
if you're not fielding the best nine fucking guys
what are you
doing don't don't don't you aren't you
in it to win it i feel like that's a common thing in the in
the bronx is the yankees have way more
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talent that should be playing rather than playing the
old guys but old guys but they always play the old guys because those
are the ones getting paid like oswaldo cabrera he
i i promise you he's a better baseball player than DJ LeMayu
at this point I mean he's he's a switch hitter
yeah he's not like the greatest but I'd
pick him over DJ he's more exciting probably does more at the plate he does
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do more at the plate it's just they continue to run out these these guys and
they just suck and it doesn't make sense but like I can't complain too much
because we're one of the best teams in the league we have Aaron Judge we have
Juan Soto and it's just fun to watch right now but yeah I I mean,
that's really all I got. It's 20 games left, basically.
Let's see what happens. I'm sorry. I'm going to say it, though.
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If you have maybe a slightly below average season from Juan Soto and a slightly
below average season from Aaron Judge, I don't think you're a playoff team.
I don't even think they're a wildcard team. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think you're a playoff team.
I think you get maybe let's put it out there. 275 from Judge.
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275 average. average like 40 homers
90 rbis or something like that just like
a pedestrian 900 ops season just his
average which is like insane still i think you miss the playoffs same with juan
soto i think if you have a a slightly below average season for his standards
which is still fantastic you're still not making the playoffs yeah i mean it's
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very possible and you're going from you're going from the second best team in
the league to not making the playoffs without those two yeah i mean it's,
It's definitely up for debate that that's possible because if you look at the guys around them,
they don't contribute much. What would you do, Jimmy?
If you take both of their wars and then divide it by two, that's how many games
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it would be without them?
What is it? Judge got probably like... Judge is like nine and a half,
and Soto's like seven and a half.
So if you take them out of their team, it's like eight game difference about?
Nine and seven? Sixteen? Yeah, so about eight games. so they would be they would
be like two and a half out of the wild card but maybe out of the wild card though
yeah two and a half out of the wild card instead of being half a game up in the division.
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I believe it. How's Cole pitching? I haven't seen him pitch in a while.
So he had a really good start yesterday.
He got pulled. He had right calf tightness, but he's good.
But he pitched a good game yesterday. I think he went seven innings,
10 Ks. Good start. He's ramping back up.
So that's good. He's been ramping back up for the whole summer,
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but okay. He needs to drink some water so his leg doesn't cramp.
Luis Hill, Clark Schmidt come back this weekend. Huge for the rotation.
So that's good to see. I don't know.
It says right here his routine before the game included applesauce,
plenty of water, and two electrolyte drinks.
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Whole? Yeah. Didn't work. And it says it got me 82 pitches.
Didn't work. No, I mean, like I said, I think this team is very pedestrian with
an average year from Soto and Judge.
This team's engine is those two players And without them Having an exceptional
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season You're not a playoff team,
It's fair Without Lindor doing what he's doing now You wouldn't be where you're
at That's right, that's why he deserves the MVP.
That's why Judge deserves his They're both going to get theirs Maybe Definitely
Judge Definitely Judge He doesn't have Otani to compete with anymore Nobody's got Bobby Witt,
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Who's a dog. He is, unfortunately. He's a very good dog. All right, so I got a Juan Soto take.
All right, let's hear it. I read an article today, and this isn't my own thought,
but it's just worth a conversation, of course.
When the Nationals traded away Juan Soto, the Nationals owner,
I forget his name, he was completely ridiculed.
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Just like, slandered, traded away the best player of our generation, blah, blah, blah.
All of a sudden, what if the nationals
sign juan soto in free agency
to pair him with the hall that they got when they
traded him away to the padres that's a
possibility there's a core in the nationals right now that is up and coming
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they have two good starters they have a good outfielder and a good shortstop
most of which came from the trade with san diego there's a couple other unknowns
that That still haven't come up through the minors yet. But they have a good little core.
And there's nothing like home sweet home. To sell to Juan Soto.
To get him to come back to Washington D.C.
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You know. This offseason is going to be one of the most interesting ones.
Just because Juan Soto. Is probably. In my lifetime.
And I would. Yeah maybe. He's probably the best free agent. That is coming available.
He's a generational talent. and he's only 25 years
20 he'll be 26 he's only
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26 years old some guys don't even hit their prime
till 28 29 he's in his prime and he's only getting better he's 25 you know so
this offseason I mean every team's gonna be interested in Juan Soto if you're
not you just can't afford him at that point but they're every there's gonna
be rumors about every single team.
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It's only four teams. It's only four teams. I think the Nationals are definitely a play.
I think it's interesting because they have a very good young core right now.
James Wood, Dylan Cruz, CJ Abrams, Kenzie Gore is really good.
Pairing Juan Soto with that, I mean, that looks like a really good team for years to come.
But I honestly think at the end of the day, it's going to be between two teams.
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The team up there in the top right and the team down here in the bottom left.
It's going to be the Bronx or the Queens.
It's not it's not it's not the cardinals right just just
checking absolutely not do the cardinals ever go after
anybody that good it's four teams it's going
to come down to four teams it's not the cardinals definitely it's going to be
mets yankees giants nationals those are the four teams he's not going to the
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dodgers there's no room on the payroll for the dodgers if they sign him then
that's legitimately unfair yeah like how that's so unfair yeah you can't there's no way i think
they get Roki Sasaki though but that's beside the point they have team
Japan pitching for them yeah that's gonna suck Juan Soto
will be one of those four teams he's gonna either go back home
he's gonna come to play in New York or he's gonna go to
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San Francisco and San Francisco is finally gonna get their
guy but I don't think that one's as likely back
to the the Japan team imagine Otani Yamamoto
and Roki in the same rotation that's disgusting yeah
imagine facing them in a in a win or go home game that's disgusting yeah yeah
i mean no chance out of those four teams i still think the mets and the yankees
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are the team that's going to end with and it's going to be the mets are going
to offer the most money the yankees are going to offer less,
because we have a lot more on our our uh you know our salary and luxury tax and shit like that.
It's going to be, does he want to play with the Yankees or does he want to play
with the Mets and take more money? That's literally what it's going to be.
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That's my prediction. I don't know who he's going to pick. I think this is a
very mysterious thing. I can't 100% say he's going to be a Yankee.
Can't say that. Can't 100% say he's going to be a Met. I don't know.
I truly don't know. And I don't think anyone knows.
I don't even think Juan Soto knows at this point. What we do know about Juan
Soto is that he's always had the same perspective.
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Money. money the money is what's going to drive him so if
it's the money that drives him i don't know i put the
mets chances at let's say
let's say no 50 50
mets 49 yankees one percent other gotta have some some sliver for other yeah
because think about it he turned down what was it two three years ago 440 million
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dollar deal with the nationals right he's gonna get probably above
150 mil more than that in total contract worth.
Insane. 600 mil? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely.
What's 15 years for 600 mil? I think it's 12 to 15 years. 40 million?
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40? Yeah. I could see 12, 600. It's 50 a year. I could see that.
But I think that's what it comes down to. Mets offering more money.
Yankees slightly under. 50% Mets, 49% Yankees 1% or whatever other team Because
the Giants miss out on everybody,
Yeah, I mean It's too big of a ballpark Yeah The topic of him going back to
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the Nationals It sounds like a nice thing to do Kind of, because it's like never
really happened, right?
Like a superstar has never really Gotten traded from a team for a haul And then
said, hey, I'm going to go join that farm system now You know?
So that sounds like something cool that could happen But I don't see it happening
And I agree with you guys with him either going to the Bronx or Queens.
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It's going to come down to it. And that's going to be one of the biggest days in baseball history.
And hopefully we're still recording to cover it.
I think we will. It depends how long it takes, but that'll be definitely a very fun day to talk about.
Well, I mean, if it's one of our teams, we'll have a special episode.
Yeah, we have to have a special episode because that's if it's not one of our
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teams and don't count on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because if it's like the Giants or the Nationals, we're not doing the Cardinals.
But if like he signs with the Mets or Yankees we will we will have a special
episode hopefully on that date just to speak about it because he's a generational
talent and it's going to be generational money this is more important than Otani I think he's a better,
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I would take Juan Soto over Otani oh I can't say that at least he corrected himself.
But like Soto's like
it's 1A 1B honestly I think
Because Soto's 25 like it's crazy dude
Like guys with this talent Don't come available like
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this If you get bro if you get 5
war on either side of the baseball From Otani which is like kind of Expected
that's 10 war Just from one player Like Juan Soto has to work hard to get To
10 war he's gonna have a really good season You're right Because he's a liability
in right I don't care what you say Nah he's not the greatest fielder He's not a great fielder.
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You know what he is? A great hitter. Oh yeah. Best pure hitter that we've ever seen.
Absolutely. Absolutely. But let's get into our redraft league.
We did our draft this week.
Very interesting draft. As I told Jimmy multiple times, he did not believe me.
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I overprepared.
Overprepared. Overprepared is an understatement. I overprepared.
The draft went completely sideways like
the first round kind of as expected i'll
break down the first round so first overall as
most people expected cmc second went
tyreek third went cd i think one two three was very
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like obvious four justin jefferson
interesting five was bijan i
told you a running back was going to be taken early on six
was a monra he fell to jimmy like he wanted responded that
right into my lap my my favorite part about jimmy's pick
was it took the whole three minutes to pick him on raw yeah well
this is okay let me give you my reason i'm the first i'm the
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first one in the in the in the show to come up in the draft
so my here's my thought process for the first round i'm thinking i'm like okay
i'm pretty certain that the first three picks are going to be the first three
picks i'm actually 100 certain of it justin jefferson kind of surprised me at
four and then bijan robinson definitely surprised me at five so those two going
meant that I had my pick of Brees Hall and,
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Amonar St. Brown and Amonar St.
Brown was my target from the get and like I didn't deviate from that but if
Brees Hall fell to me I wasn't gonna have a problem with it.
So I went Amun-Ra there. I'm glad I did because I think round two and three
were actually perfect for me. But go ahead.
Round 107 was A.J. Brown. Very interesting. That was an auto-pick.
Auto-pick. He was not there. So can't say much about that. And then I got Brees
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Hall. Very happy with that pick.
I honestly think he's going to be neck and neck with CMC and Fantasy Production
at the running back position this year.
Better quarterback situation. And you saw what he did with Zach Wilson and all the other shitters.
He put up a very good year, RB2 stats last year. So imagine what a good running quarterback.
I think he's going to have a really good year. He's my hero RB because the others are terrible.
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But let's continue. 109 was Jonathan Taylor. I think that that was super early
for Jonathan Taylor. I thought he was a second round guy.
This is also interesting. 110 Puka Nakua. I also think that's a little early for Puka.
They just, I cups back and healthy. healthy
i don't know we'll see how that works out jamar
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chase went 11 he fell to 11 biggest biggest
surprise and he was he was hesitant on taking him that's a very big surprise
the issue is he might even play week one so might suck regardless i think that's
why he fell i think people are scared of that you know yeah i mean i agree but
i don't think one week should cause him
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to go down that much i mean he's gonna end up getting paid
he's gonna play he's gonna
play if he can i think him falling
to 11 is kind of crazy but yeah so i think nick this worked out perfectly for
you you got garrett wilson and jameer gibbs i think that that's perfect those
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are your two guys those are your hymns that's awesome love that for you now
we just hope for a montgomery injury
yeah that's it i mean i'm never gonna you know never root for an injury on someone
but yeah you said it um and then and then i mean i the draft kind of went as expected.
No really big reaches i would say the draft did not go as expected i mean cooper
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cup going 2-8 is crazy yeah i
i mean that is a reach zay flowers going at 2-11 is a reach in my opinion,
Josh Allen falling to the fourth round That's insane Jimmy got insane value
Oh the late fourth round I got Ayuk in the third Which is why Why would he fall
to the third He's the best wide receiver on a team That's a powerhouse of offense
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With three guys who could potentially get hurt Because they're older.
IU is the youngest alpha on that team, so thank you very much for the third.
I'll have him in my wide receiver two spot.
And then Josh Allen fell to me in the fourth. I was a little upset.
I had a lot of guys sniped. I was really hoping for ETN. That was about a workout.
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Got sniped. Kenny Walker got sniped. So my team's not as I wanted it to be.
It's not great, you know. but it
i got a bunch of young receivers and i'm
hoping for a dream that's basically my team it
doesn't look good this year is mark andrews going
before laporta like a shock to you guys yes yeah
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i thought that was kind of crazy too yeah two
two picks to be fair but yeah laporta i
mean i don't i don't see laporta replicating his touchdown total
but he's still the second option in in
a very high potent detroit offense so i would
take him over mark andrews mark andrews is an injury away from being out
for a while he's injured every year no yeah i
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i agree i also think i i pulled the trigger
on a quarterback too early i saw the stack i saw that i got excited so i took
that there were options further on i could have grabbed a running back but you
know the fifth round was the ultimate panic for most of the people in the league
you know we had 12 picks and eight of them were either quarterbacks or tight ends.
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Yeah, I think that was, I panicked. I never fall into that, but I did.
But which, okay, so which running back would you prefer? Ramondre Stevenson,
David Montgomery, Zemir White, or DeAndre Swift, who all went in the sixth?
It would be between Stevenson or Zemir White.
Maybe, but the Vegas offense is going to be so bad and so is the New England offense.
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So you want to attach yourself to a running back two and a very shitty offense?
Yeah, but dude, look at my running back.
Over CJ Stroud? I went with Hero too. We could talk about our list all the way
down. I didn't pick another one until round eight.
You took one earlier. You took one in round... Oh no, you took one...
Round eight, same as you. Listen.
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My hope is... so i've been seeing a lot of
news that algiers gonna have a big workload
i don't know what that means but if that's true
that's cool i took brian robertson
because he's a touchdown machine i don't think that gets taken away from him
and then jk davis if he's healthy he
can be at rb10 if he's healthy biggest terms but my
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running backs are all like living on a prayer
basically besides all backups pretty much
yeah they're all rb2s you mean me too
all my these are my running backs aside from isaiah pacheco
who i took in the second and i think that's i think he has a shot
at running back three other than him giovante williams denver backfields very
ambiguous i think giovante may have a good workload but he's still 1a 1b jaylen
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warren same situation 1a 1b ty jay spears i don't know if he's going to be the
guy in tennessee and zach charbonnet who's as a backup to Ken Walker.
You just take risks on these people later on in the rounds and you hope they pan out.
Because every time, no matter what draft you have, running back two will always
be your weakest position, even weaker than flex.
So lean into it and improve the other positions. That's my opinion.
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Unless you have Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, and Kenny Walker.
Yeah, but you would never start a third running back. I know.
You just wouldn't. I feel like the third running back at the flex is not a good
idea. It's not the move. But you would say his team is bad?
I personally don't like Diggs being his number one.
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Diggs and Cooper and then Keon
Coleman, if you don't start a third running back, like, come on. Yeah.
My flex is Rasheed Rice on one of the best offenses who's not going to get suspended this year.
My flex is either George Pickens or Malik. Wide receiver one.
Yeah, wide receiver one. Malik Nabors may break fantasy football.
He might be the biggest league winner in all of the draft.
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He's going to break out. out like he like he is is the Giants offense bad because
they have no weapons or is the Giants offense bad because Daniel Jones is bad
we'll find out because they have a weapon yeah so I went with,
if you guys were able to see my team I went with Marvin Harrison jr I took three
rookie wide receivers Marvin Harrison jr and to me it was all value because
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they're all they could all be number ones that's what I looked at I saw Marvin
Harrison jr I saw Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas jr I I think Brian Thomas
Jr. is going to be really good too.
He has great, great measurables. He looks great.
But that's what I saw at my spot. Instead of taking like a Tyler Lockett who
went right after or a Khalil Shakir, I saw Brian Thomas and I was like, why not?
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You know? These guys are 6'3".
6'3", what freaky speed.
It's interesting. I took all wide receiver ones essentially,
but they're all wide receiver ones in shitty offenses.
That's my dilemma. shitty offenses as of
right now they could be good offenses you know yeah and
listen i nick nick's got a great team i think met calf t higgins dj more and
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garrett wilson's a really good core of receivers i like that a lot stevenson
and gibbs is decent i think after that your bench is kind of weak though my bench is kind of like.
You know wide receiver twos or rb2s hoping to you
know steal a spot blake quorum
could work out trey benson could be work out like you have some
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good rookie running backs that could be something you know
yeah i mean i also i like the
she also i think she's
gonna have a good season too yeah he's not
a great offense but chris alave's could just been like
a medium i guess you could say yeah I think
uh I think Matt Stafford as your backup
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quarterback was a good pick and I'm not
I don't know I think Jordan Love I think I'm not
as high on Jordan Love and CJ Stroud in all honesty like I think that their
their ceilings have been met I think they they
had their their like that's what you could expect as
like the best outcome for these quarterbacks and to me you're drafting them
kind of at their ceiling you know Jordan Love
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doesn't really have have the running ability cj stroud not really you know
cj stroud is definitely a step above jordan love as far as like yardage
and touchdown totals i think with better weapons just slightly better green
bay has good weapons but to me like matthew safford could save you honestly
like if jordan love starts to struggle and starts to you know go through some
growing pains like matthew safford you could plug him right in get 20 points
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i mean it's crazy to say jordan love was qb5 last.
Year do you see him going any higher
than that with no rushing upside no but i mean
qb5 is pretty good yeah you you
that's what i'm saying i think that's as high as he'll go and and you know i
take stroud i think i took him too early honestly i think i took him too early
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i could have that's where he was going though i know i know but i i i panicked
i don't know why i took a good quarterback. I saw the stack. I saw the stack.
Yeah. Not Nico Collins and CJ Stroud. That's a nice stack to have.
Those are two like on par guys. You know, they're they put up big numbers together.
That's why I got excited. That's a stack's nice to have.
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Yeah, I was targeting a stack this year. But when you get to the fourth round,
what pick was it for four seven?
And Josh Allen is the first quarterback off the board and still on the board for me.
I had to, like, I know, I know. I, I preach. I was like, take quarterback later.
Like it's, it's fine to fade quarterback this year, but when you get 25 points,
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just kind of like falling to your lap in round four, I can't resist.
Like I had him last year. It's good.
Yeah. I feel like you have, you've had him every year in redraft.
Yeah. He's kind of, kind of my guy. Yeah.
I mean, listen, it makes sense. It's that's phenomenal value at that, at that spot.
You know, like you You said 25 easily a week.
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He's been QB one for the past four years, except 22.
And he was QB two behind Jalen Hurts. So, I mean, that's, you know,
doesn't hurt to take QB one in the fourth round.
Well, like you said, I think we both panicked. You didn't panic. You saw value.
I saw the stack. My eyes got big. Yeah, I saw the stack.
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And I think we both were preaching fade quarterbacks, fade quarterbacks.
Wait, wait, wait. and we did honestly the complete
opposite because i took one in the fifth round you took one in the fourth round
i got my quarterback in the round that i was looking to
get quarterback i know i want to talk about your pick because i think that the
best quarterback in the draft got got sniped ahead of you yeah kyler murray
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yeah because i was between like when they took joe burr at the 7-9 and i have
the 7-12 i'm like okay brock purdy kyler murray jordan love like i'm fine with any three of those.
And then I saw, I thought Kyler Murray was going to go first.
I saw Brock Purdy. I'm like, I looked at Jimmy. I go, Jimmy,
I might get the guy I want.
And then it gets sniped right before
my eyes. People forget how good Kyler Murray was when he was healthy.
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People honestly forget that. Yeah. I mean, his first three years,
he finished a QB six, three and 10. Yeah.
Yeah. And that's, you know, seventh round, almost eighth round value.
And, and that's what he finished QB 10 with 14 games in 2021. Yeah.
But let's talk about the most surprising thing of the draft,
a defense going in the eighth round. Jimmy, your mic's muted.
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Yeah, two picks in the eighth round that went with defenses,
and then two picks in the ninth round that went kicker.
What goes on through your mind to pick those picks?
Yeah, truthfully, I really couldn't tell you.
To take to take a kicker and defense that early just just makes no sense when there's so much more,
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value on the board i mean are we giving why are we giving these people any time
why are we even why are we even mentioning because it's funny to talk about
it happens every year it happens every single year they do defense and kicker
in like 16 rounds ahead of where they should I'm surprised.
We should have a league where we just draft kicker and defense the first two
rounds. Get it out of the way so nobody can make the mistake and then start our draft.
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But people don't understand is you're basically streaming kickers and defense every week.
I don't think I keep a kicker and defense for no more than two weeks at a time
unless they start balling.
Listen, I'm ready to drop my defense that I drafted. like you stream your your
waiver wire hunting for kickers and defense all year 100 there's no yeah the
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49ers defense sure where did they finish last year in in terms of defense.
11 11th the the browns defense fifth okay that's not worth eighth round value
when you can add like potentially have a flex or a league winner, you know?
My other thing is like, even though they took them early, how do you not take
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the Jets in either of those situations?
Why are we even talking about picking a defense in that situation?
No, I know that, but I mean, I'm just saying from their perspective,
I mean, how do you think the Cleveland Browns defense is better than every defense in the league?
I mean, they did have one of the best defenses last year. Yeah,
but they finished fifth.
Yeah, but like, there's no talk. There shouldn't be a talk about it.
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There's no conversation You shouldn't take
them this early The kicker and defense are reserved for the last two rounds
On the draft There was four people who did that Four people who took kicker
and defense In the last round The three of us and Nick The four people who know
how to play fantasy softball Everyone else mixed them in early Yeah It's insane,
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I can't believe that one guy got auto drafted two kickers I'm going to be honest
I'm really excited about Baker Mayfield He was QB 10 last year That's a great
15th round pick You know what I mean So let's do all projections with our team
What do you think our record is going to be 14 games I can't project records man,
I say my team goes 9 wins.
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You got to go 10 for me, then, because your team's worse than mine. I'm going 8.
Mine's worse than yours. So my floor is 7, right?
But my ceiling is 10.
Just because I have all rookies, you don't know what they are.
It's so volatile. Nick, let's go position by position. If you think that your
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team is so much better, let's go top down.
Let's do our position by positions. Let's do it. Let's do everyone's. Yeah. All right.
We'll rate them by 1, 2, 3. uh no well yeah we'll just we'll just do who wins
all right saint bro oh you're gonna go quarterback okay yeah just go to your
team quarterback jordan i mean we all know jimmy's winning that one yeah i've
joined you have one remember your number in your head one,
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breeze hall rb1 jimmy or gibbs pacheco i call yeah yeah all right so i have
one rb2 brian Ryan Robinson.
Ramondre Stevenson. Devontae Williams. I'm going to take Ramondre Stevenson. What about you, Jimmy?
He could have the weakest position, no problem. We should count that as half a point.
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One point. We'll count it as a point. Why receiver one, Marvin Harrison Jr.? Garrett Wilson.
Amin Ra. Amin Ra. Why receiver two, Nico Collins?
You can honestly pick DJ Moore back half for Higgins. Brandon Ayuk?
I think it's a tie between us, Jimmy. Stop.
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The alpha on one of the best offenses in the league. Nick, Nico Collins or Brandon Ayuk?
I mean, Nico Collins finished better than him last year.
Who's wide receiver one? Who's wide receiver two?
What are you talking about? Timo's wide receiver one there. No,
he's not. No, he's not. Let's be honest.
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He's the gadget player. He's the mix-it-up kind of guy.
I'm taking Nick, Nico Collins, or Brandon Ayuk.
I'll take half a point. I think I would go half and half. All right. I got one and a half.
Two and a half. Tight end, Jake Ferguson.
Ingram. Trey McBride.
Okay, I'll give that. I like Ferguson, though, bro.
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I think McBride's ceiling is going to go down. We'll do a half.
I like Ferguson the best. You like Ferguson? Okay, Nick. Yep,
so I'm at two and a half. Because I wanted Ferguson.
Yeah, I'm at two and a half. You're tweaking right now.
Two and a half. Oh, you love McBride just because he had one good fucking year.
Half a year. You picked him up in like the 11th round.
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Yeah. I don't know. I picked him off waivers. In the 11th round. No, waivers.
Yeah. Wait. All right. I got two and a half. I'm taking Ferguson, bro.
Flex. Malik neighbors.
Metcalf or Higgins. Rashi rice. I'm going Malik neighbors.
Easy. Bro. I'm not taking neighbors just because he hasn't proved anything.
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Rashi rice. So did Nick, who was on the best offense?
He Higgins or DK Metcalf, whichever depends on who they're playing.
I'm giving the point to Nick. I'm taking mine. That's that's insane.
Given the point to Nick. All right, so I'm at two and a half. I have two.
And Jimmy has how much? Three and a half. Three and a half. I have like seven.
So you won, man. Yeah, but that's the thing, though. That's only starters.
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Jimmy's bench is terrible.
What's terrible about my bench? One guy gets hurt and Jimmy loses at least 10 points.
I got Odunze on the bench to go into the wide receiver three slot.
I got Jalen Warren and Tajay Spears who are going to be nine,
10 points a week. Don't matter.
Same as the nine, 10 points. Same as 9-10 points for Javante Williams Khalil
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Shakir is attached to Josh Allen That's a stack, you're welcome Jaden Daniels
could easily replace Josh Allen If he got hurt Need I go any further?
I dropped Ben Sanat So we got somebody else Andre Guestamay might be the starter
in Denver By the end of the season Hold my left one I got the best bench, honestly.
I like Jonathan's bench the most I got Baker Mayfield He beat 10 last year Jaleel
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McLaughlin, who's going to be RB1 in Denver because Javante sucks cock.
J.K. Dobbins is probably going to be RB1 in LA.
If he has a breakout year, I want the league. Tyler Algier is probably the best
RB2 in the league. Brian Thomas Jr. could be him.
Darnell Mooney with Kirk Cousins, solid wide receiver too. George Pickens is
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wide receiver one, better quarterback play.
Dontavion Wicks, balled out end of last season, could be very good this year.
And Isaiah Likely Mark Andrews isn't going to stay healthy And what did Isaiah
Likely do when Mark Andrews got hurt last year Dog Best bench in the league,
Isaiah Likely Billy did shit What are you talking about He finished with 100
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fantasy points Yeah look at his last 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 He played 17 games,
Because he wasn't a starter Look at the weeks when he was a starter,
7, 9, 8, 9 5 What are you looking at Isn't his PPR.
19, 18, 8, 18, 11.
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Oh, I guess that's the guess. Are you on 2024? No, I just don't know how to read the website.
That's why I look at it on my phone. Nice. Nice. Very nice.
This is what podcasting gets you. Yeah. You get some novice podcasters occasionally.
Yeah, novice. Hey, bro. Anyway. I got the wrong PPR column.
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I'm the favorite, clearly. I have the most points. I don't care about my bench
because your bench doesn't score any points in your lineup.
Up and this l when i steal that trophy back to back to back my ass back to back to back,
is gonna be me and listen guys i just want to say this the best time of the
year starts this week we have football on thursday chiefs ravens friday we have
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a game in brazil all the teams are scared to leave their hotels let me tell
you guys brazil isn't that bad just don't rock around out with APs and 30 gold necklaces.
And then Sunday, Sunday football's back.
Sunday football is fucking back. The best time of the year, 1230 open invitation
to my apartment. Be there or be square.
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If you don't show up, that's your loss. But everyone's invited.
It's going to be the best time of the year. I'm very excited.
So guys, enjoy this weekend.
And remember, we got 17 more weeks of it.
So we will catch you on the next episode. for all the rest of the cap we'll
talk about week one we can recap week one we could talk about our fantasy teams
our dynasty jimmy's going into a big year for dynasty this is his year this
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is his window and guys enjoy your weeks and enjoy football have a good one.