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Chrystal Russell (00:00):
Welcome back
to another episode of Bearing it
All with Rose and Crystal.
Today's episode is super, superjuicy.
Rose Oates (00:11):
Yes, it is so.
For far too long we, especiallyas women and vagina owners,
have not really been fullyeducated on our own bodies,
especially around sexualwellness and pleasure.
It is often met with shame ortaboo surrounding something that
is so important and very normaland you know what?
It's bloody necessary.
So, with that said, today weare welcoming Rosie Rees to the
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podcast.
Rosie is a sex toy entrepreneur, a modern day nudist
relationship and sexuality coatsand body image activists.
Chrystal Russell (00:45):
She started
the movement Stop Sucking it, in
which we both absolutely lovemind you, I did a post quite a
few years ago about Stop Suckingit In.
Rose Oates (00:54):
Love it, but it
doesn't stop there.
Rosie is also the founder ofYoni Pleasure Palace Splash
Blanket, the Yoni GoldenMembership, and the creator of
Naked Awakening Women's NudeYoga Workshop.
This and more.
We are so excited to have heron today and talk more about our
bodies, our sexual health andour yonis.
Chrystal Russell (01:17):
And some toys
perhaps.
Rose Oates (01:20):
And maybe learn a
little bit about some squirting.
Chrystal Russell (01:23):
Let's get to
it.
So we want to welcome RosieRees to our podcast.
Rose Oates (01:29):
Thanks, guys, thanks
for having me.
Thank you so much for takingthe time this has been like a
few weeks coming.
Chrystal Russell (01:37):
We've been
trying to organise dates and
just to get you in here and somuch stuff has been happening
and Rosie's been feeling a lotof feels around today.
I do.
She'll have to deep dive intothat.
We both are, yes, but weobviously want to start with all
of the things that Rosie hasdone which is like wow,
(02:00):
mind-blowing.
She's definitely a boss, babe.
Rosie Rees (02:03):
Thanks, yeah, thank
you, I am.
I am now.
I wasn't always, yeah, but I'vedefinitely been on this boss
journey for the past 10 years orso, started in 2014 and yeah,
basically, a little jade eggworkshop in Bali just blew up my
life and, yeah, the rest ishistory.
Rose Oates (02:22):
It's pretty, pretty
exciting what were you before
all of this?
What were you before?
Rosie Rees (02:28):
you were the yoni
queen that is such a good
question.
Oh my god, what the fuck was I?
I was a finance recruiter getout of here, yeah you would
never pick it um and before that.
Chrystal Russell (02:45):
I was a
waitress.
Okay, I see the waitress.
Rosie Rees (02:49):
Yeah, and a promo
girl.
I was a Heineken girl for awhile there.
Rose Oates (02:53):
Yeah, I could
imagine that, but then a finance
recruiter to what I would callthe yonny confidence queen.
If there's a body confidencequeen, this is the yoni
confidence queen sitting besideme and I'm so excited.
I really am because bodies, ourhealth, women's health, people
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that own a vagina, I feelpassionate about because I
didn't grow up in a, in ahousehold or even in an era
where we learn a lot about ourbodies.
So, and I think, like I'm 39,I've just turned 39.
So, if that gives you an idea,I'm an older millennial.
But, like health, ed was condomon a banana.
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Our organs, female reproductivesystem meant that we were.
You know, this is how you makea baby.
It was all about reproduction.
And then they spoke about malemasturbation, but not so much
female masturbation.
Rosie Rees (03:54):
Wow, you got more
than me.
I didn't even get the bananaand the condom.
I didn't even know, like mydear old mum didn't even tell me
about getting a period.
I mean, I knew there were padsin the bathroom, but we never
had the chat.
Chrystal Russell (04:10):
The period
chat.
Rosie Rees (04:11):
No, there was no
talk in my I call it a silent
sex education.
I didn't have any schooleducation or parental sex
education.
Rose Oates (04:21):
Did you go to a
Catholic school?
Then I did Okay, so I went to apublic.
Rosie Rees (04:25):
Yeah, it was um
Presbyterian Lutheran and
Catholic.
Chrystal Russell (04:29):
Ah so just
yeah, how about you, chris?
I went to a public um, butfamily, pretty much the same
like never had the sex chat,besides my dad once or twice
talking about a black girl as ajoke in front of my Mormon
friend.
Love that.
That's another story For them,and you but never had the sex
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chat.
I don't remember if we had aperiod chat.
I think my friends told meabout because I got my period
one week before my 18th birthday.
Rosie Rees (04:58):
Oh, that's so late.
Chrystal Russell (04:59):
Yeah, so we
thought that something was wrong
with me.
But I had all the checks doneand they were like no, she's a
late bloomer.
I got called surfboard thewhole way through high school I
had no boobs.
Now I've got lots of boobs but,yeah, like never had those
chats and I remember my friendsat like a 13th birthday
sleepover being like, have yougot your period?
And me being like, well, Idon't have my period.
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And they all had their period.
So I think I learned from them.
Rose Oates (05:24):
That's exactly how I
felt.
So our household, I have anItalian family, so my mum really
didn't know anything.
She had the silent sex ed fromher mum and then period.
She tried to have a chat aboutperiods with me and I was
literally the meanest teen onearth and I was like get out of
my room.
I know I did health, health,don't talk to me, because it was
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that awkward there was too late.
Rosie Rees (05:48):
If you're having the
chat and I always say this to
clients, like if you, if you'retelling your kids about it at 12
, 13, it's too late, it's toolate you need to be.
Chrystal Russell (05:57):
I guess,
exposing them to your period
from me, from from the age theyare born, really like well, my
daughter's nine and we've hadthe full period chat and I even
ask her, like she's alreadystarted to spot and like she
already knew, like way before,and it didn't scare her no.
Rosie Rees (06:15):
Exactly.
I was so scared when I was 13and it was Athletics Day, of
course it was.
It was that brownie blood and Ihonestly I thought I'd shit
myself.
I was like the fuck is this andthen I spent even to the, into
the afternoon, into the nightand had a shower and it was
still there.
But it was coming out and itonly just dawned on me it was
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this is my period.
Yeah, oh, it was such a shockand we didn't have google.
Rose Oates (06:40):
No.
So that's the thing, that whenI'm talking about older
millennials or like our agegroup, it's because you couldn't
just Google it Like now.
I think even if you're noteducated by your parents or you
don't a hundred percent knowkids, can kids, teens, adults we
can Google this stuff.
I mean, it's not always thebest avenue, but at least the
information's there and it'salso why it's so important and
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why we wanted to get you on,because we just don't know, even
as adults.
There's so many women thatactually have you've probably
experienced it a lot with whatyou do but even myself and
Crystal, they don't know abouttheir bodies or about sex or
even how to self-pleasure.
Some haven't even everself-pleasured.
Rosie Rees (07:25):
This is why I'm so
passionate about adult sex
education.
Like it's not too late to learnall this stuff in your 20s and
30s and 40s.
Or even like I've had womencome to workshops of mine, 50
plus, who've just discoveredtheir clitoris.
It's like it's never too late.
But it's because we're nottaught as young kids, and
hopefully that's all changingnow.
But really it's down to theparents, because you can't rely
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on our school systems to begiving adequate sex education,
and so I'm passionate abouteducating mums and dads and
parents about.
You know the ins and outs ofself-pleasure and consent and
boundaries and you know what todo in those circumstances, so as
not to pass any shame on toyour kids and empower them yeah,
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I feel like for me having a boylike I, even though he's 13 and
he gets super awkward with mehaving these conversations.
Chrystal Russell (08:14):
But I have
definitely talked a lot about
consent with him lately becausenot, I'm not saying that women
girls do, but I don't want himto ever have sex with somebody
and then be like, hey, I didn'tsay yes to that.
So I was like you know, whenyou are ready to have sex, you
need to make sure that you'reasking is this okay?
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You don't need their signatureon a piece of paper, but you
need to make sure that they'reconsenting to it, because the
last thing you want to do ishave them turn around and be
like well, actually I didn't sayyes to that.
So, even though he gets awkward,I'm having those conversations
already with him, because mydoctor has made me very aware
that boys are having sex fromthe age of 11.
(08:57):
Oh wow.
Rose Oates (08:59):
So young.
But this consent conversationas well, I don't even think
adults understand it entirely,and this is why it's so
important that we are startingto educate parents and our youth
.
But also we need to be educatedon consent and to know that
it's actually okay to be halfwaythrough actually having sex, I
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think even, and being like youknow what, pull the pin, I'm not
ready, I can't do this at themoment.
That also, you don't have tocontinue with the act.
Rosie Rees (09:31):
Marital rape's a
thing.
Yes, and I think just becausewe're in a relationship doesn't
mean automatic consent all thetime, consistently, forever.
Yeah, like there's been momentswith Ash where I've been like I
don't consent to that touch, orlike you know, it's important
to be able to know what you want.
Rose Oates (09:48):
So communication
yeah.
Chrystal Russell (09:49):
Yeah, I would
think it would be massive in
marriages, to be honest because,how many times do men or women
just expect that they are tohave sex with their partner?
Rosie Rees (10:01):
Yeah, I have a lot
to say on this topic, see.
Chrystal Russell (10:08):
And it's like
I had this conversation with a
friend two days ago and she justsaid to me that like it's like
a chore because they expect it,and she's like I'm not their sex
slave so and I was a bit likewhoa, that's a lot, yeah it is a
lot.
Rosie Rees (10:25):
I was at a naked
yoga recently and the woman I
was paired with um in in thevulnerability kind of sector.
Have you guys done new yoga yet?
Okay, well yeah, that's yourhomework.
Um so, and she mentioned sheknows she wasn't in a good place
with her husband and that hewould just roll her over in the
middle of the night and justfuck her and it's like oh, that
is I, that is I mean there's alot of unpacking there, but
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that's rape and just becauseyou're married doesn't mean
that's okay, which he wouldthink that that wasn't.
Chrystal Russell (10:53):
Yeah, yeah.
Rose Oates (10:54):
And she may have
even been taught or learnt that,
oh, you're married, you know.
Rosie Rees (11:00):
That's your duty.
It's just what you give to yourhusband.
Rose Oates (11:02):
Is this really
primarily a female thing that
we've been taught that, likethey're like in regards to males
, especially that it's one, it'salmost like putting one
person's pleasure over another.
Rosie Rees (11:17):
Yeah, I think we've
girls have grown up to think
that they need to give pleasureto a boy or a man to please him,
and that's, that's their roleof pleasure.
Yeah, is is just to give thepleasure to them.
Actually, your pleasure hasnothing to do with it.
And it wasn't until I was like26 and had my sexual awakening
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that I realized I was justgiving giving my yoni, my pussy,
to men on a platter for theirpleasure and I hardly ever got
off, yeah, and it's almost likeno one sort of tells you that
it's just kind of sneakily inmovies and porn and you know.
Rose Oates (11:55):
Society.
It's almost like we've beentaught that it's not empowering
in that sense, like it's likeputting somebody else's needs
and pleasure before your own,and, whereas I feel like it
should be equal, there should besome sort of equality it's the
epitome of people pleasing.
Rosie Rees (12:13):
It's just putting
someone else's needs above your
own, putting someone's yes aboveyour no, and that's something I
always tell people.
It's like make sure your yes ismore important to, or your no
is more important than somebodyelse's yes.
Oh, that is, your no is moreimportant to, or your no is more
important than somebody else'syes.
Rose Oates (12:26):
Oh, that is powerful
.
Rosie Rees (12:28):
Your no is more
important than somebody else's.
Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Chrystal Russell (12:34):
I would drive
behind that car and be like,
yeah, yes, hell to the yeah, andthis is okay.
Rose Oates (12:40):
So let's go into the
yoni egg then, because this is
how you, at 26, you had yoursexual awakening.
I did, and you were saying itwas in Bali in 2014 and it
pretty much changed your life.
Rosie Rees (12:53):
Yeah.
So before that I was in Sydney.
So I graduated from uni.
I wanted to be a journalist.
I graduated at the GFC.
Like there was just no,literally no job.
So I thought I'll just take offover to Europe, do the
backpacking thing.
And then, after a few years andtoo many beers and you know
just a few addictions that Ididn't need, I thought I've got
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to get my shit together.
So that's when I ended up inSydney as a corporate recruiter
and I was really good at thatjob and I ended up getting quite
close to my a co-worker whobecame my boss and he was lovely
at the time and then, quitesoon into the relationship, he
was toxic and, um, just the youknow, a narcissist.
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Basically a lot of emotionalmanipulation.
I was just a shell of myself.
I didn't have a voice.
I had no.
Was that a romanticrelationship?
It was.
Yeah, we were in a relationshipfor a year, so um, but it
started as like coworker andthen I kind of moved into a
relationship and then I went toa Tony Robbins seminar Unleash
the Power Within and I just woke.
It's like I literally woke up.
(13:57):
I walked over the fucking hotcoals.
I came back, I dumped him Um, Ineeded police.
Thank you, tony.
Horrific, literally.
I have Tony to thank for so muchand quit my job, went to India
first, became a yoga teacher,had this full spiritual
awakening.
So I can kind of thank thatawful time in my life in Sydney
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as a finance recruiter, in anawful relationship, because if
it wasn't for that I wouldn'thave gone.
I wouldn't have looked withinand wanted to actually love,
learn to love myself, because Iwas just broken.
I was so broken.
And then I ended up in Balidoing a second yoga teacher
training and went to this J-Digworkshop and it was so out of my
comfort zone at the time I waslike this is so fucking woo, woo
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, what is all this about?
But then we were all in thislike semi-circle out in the
jungle, doing like this feminineyoga, touching our bodies,
chanting, sounding, and then wewere wearing a big, long skirt
with no undies on so we couldbasically put this egg in our
vagina.
Yeah, and we got to that partand I remember putting it in my
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vagina and it was just Like it'shard to explain, it was just
this wave of healing, it's likewave of reclamation, like this
is your pussy, this is your partof your body.
And it was the first time I'dever engaged with my yoni in a
way that wasn't needing to givepleasure to a man or get some
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kind of validation for myselffrom sex or an orgasm or
something.
It was like connecting to mypussy in a way that wasn't
sexual, but it was loving andkind and gentle.
Rose Oates (15:34):
Which I don't think
we do.
We don't.
We don't do that to our vaginas, no, but I'm also trying to
picture this round circle ofeveryone putting eggs inside.
We're all facing out.
Chrystal Russell (15:44):
Oh okay, I was
like, are we doing it in?
Rosie Rees (15:46):
We're facing out
semicircle, facing out, and I
was like looking like, iseveryone doing this?
I'm like God.
Rose Oates (15:52):
And then you know,
popping it in Because I remember
putting my egg in from thefirst time and I was like I need
to really like work out where,how, it was going, I was
squatting.
Chrystal Russell (16:01):
Yeah, I don't
know if that's yeah, I was
squatting.
Rose Oates (16:04):
I was sitting in
front of the mirror.
Chrystal Russell (16:05):
But I won't
lie.
I saw that it had little holesand I was like hmm, what are the
little holes for?
After I popped it in, I thenwent into instant freak out mode
.
This thing is stuck.
Rosie Rees (16:16):
I feel like this is
a rite of passage.
So I get so many calls fromlike friends, like people have
bought them, and I guide them tohow to get it out, because it's
a one way street.
It's not, you know, the cervixis closed it can't go into your
stomach.
No, you cannot absorb the egg,guys, but I mean it can get if
you've got a long vagina, andvaginas range from like six
centimetres to about 16centimetres.
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What so if you've got littlefingers like me, like?
it's hard sometimes, like it canreally sneak up, but if you
relax, it's about relaxing,because if you tense up it's
going to get worse.
Chrystal Russell (16:49):
I think a
friend of ours went to hospital,
didn't she Really?
Yeah, because it got stuck andshe went to the ED.
Rosie Rees (16:53):
She couldn't relax
and she was like she just needs
me on the phone and I would haveguided her.
So you just put your fingers in, you squat yeah, like you're
going to do a bush wee, and thenyou just insert your fingers
and scoop it down and out.
Chrystal Russell (17:07):
Well, that's
how you would use it if you were
freaking out like I was.
So just use the string, yeah.
Rosie Rees (17:12):
Is this a tooth
floss that you use?
It's unwaxed, unminted floss,so it's like an eco.
Rose Oates (17:17):
You do not want mint
on your vajidge.
All right guys.
Rosie Rees (17:19):
God, no, fuck me I
think I used tooth floss once
I've had such an experience withminted things.
Rose Oates (17:32):
No, no ph levels.
Oh my god.
Okay, there's this stuff.
This is like going off a bit Ihave this stuff called rocket
fuel which is like it's so good.
But I had actually put a fewdrops on my tongue and then I
put a tampon in and I don'toften use a tampon, but I'd wash
I just it you didn't washenough off your fingers it's got
peppermint oils, all thesethings, and mate it was on,
blows your head off fire like myvagina was breathing it was
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like this.
It was like I could breathe easyand it was minty, fresh.
Fuck me, I bet she could.
She was breathing for ages.
I couldn't wash it off.
Apparently someone said I hadto get a neutralising oil like
coconut oil, coconut oil.
So I slathered it in somecoconut Slather it.
I think I had coconut something.
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But yes, this egg that I'mholding of Rosie's has a string.
So if you're starting out, youcan actually have one with a
string.
Mine didn't have a string andmine definitely was up there for
a while and then I was like mygod, it's not coming out and I
really.
What was amazing about the eggis I had to relax and it got me
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in tune with my body and I waslike relax, like and how my
breath helps me, and it like byjust controlling my breath.
I started like you never thinkabout your breath.
You think about yoga, you thinkabout breath and you think
about your body relaxing and Iknow, I don't know why this is
so weird.
I never think about my vaginarelaxing and my yoni and my and
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my vulva and everything in there, but the muscles in.
That was just like, oh, and thenit popped out, it just slid on
out.
I could feel it dropping and Iwas like, oh my, my god, like
it's so important, like that'swhere I realized I made it into
like this little practice in themorning, when I was having my
cup of coffee, I'd pop it in.
And even Tato, my four-year-oldlike, is obsessed with this egg
(19:19):
.
And we, like, because I alsohave the what do you call it?
The little pelvic floor ones,oh yeah, the kegels.
The kegels, yeah, because I'vehad four kids so I just wanted
to strengthen that a bit as well.
So we do coffee and Kegels oh Ilove that.
Or coffee and Mayoni egg, andshe's like what's this egg?
And she'll play with it.
I'm like put that egg down.
Rosie Rees (19:38):
Because it's not
just about tightening and toning
.
It's actually about relaxing aswell.
Because you can just likesqueeze around the entrance of
the vagina and then imagine likeyou're sucking it inwards and
upwards, like you're hugging theegg inside you, if you imagine
you had an egg inside you and Itried to do that just then.
And then you'd pull it uptowards your cervix and then you
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need to relax as well, it'slike doing a sit-up for me.
Chrystal Russell (20:01):
I think I'm
really weak, like that hurts not
hurts, but it's like my musclesare like when.
Rosie Rees (20:06):
It's like my muscles
are like when you have an egg
in there, it gives it likesomething to hold on to.
So it's like a weightresistance and it does build
pretty quickly.
The muscles build and get moretoned and you can hold your wee
for longer.
People are probably like whyare you putting an egg in your
pussy?
For pelvic floor strength?
That's why we're doing it.
Rose Oates (20:25):
So do you find that
the awareness through the egg is
huge of like your body and yourvagina?
Rosie Rees (20:31):
Yeah, so when you
have the egg in you can't really
feel it too much.
I don't know if you've noticedthat you don't feel the egg in.
Over time I can feel it moreand more, but it's more like
afterwards.
So you wear it for an hour orso, even if it's five minutes.
You know a lot of women say itfalls out after five minutes,
and that's really normal.
Just wear your knickers at home,otherwise it'll crack onto the
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floor.
And yeah, so it's aboutbuilding that sensation and it
builds up lubrication, naturallubrication.
It's helped me heal layers ofsexual trauma as well, so I
started squirting After usingthe egg, I started having
internal orgasms and squirting.
Chrystal Russell (21:13):
I need to use
my egg again because I was, like
recently, saying like she dry,like the desert sometimes.
Rose Oates (21:20):
So it increases
natural lubrication.
Rosie Rees (21:23):
Because there's more
blood flow.
So you're wearing quite a heavy.
I mean this is about 80 grams.
You're wearing an 80 gramweight resistance inside your
pussy.
The muscles, even though youcan't really feel it, the
muscles are working to hold thategg in generally when you're
standing up, if you're sittingdown, not so much, and if it
does fall straight out, like,just start with sitting or lying
down or even sleeping.
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But when you stand up, it's,it's working and that's why you
don't want to leave it in toolong because you could fatigue
the muscles.
So I've accidentally left minein for like a whole day.
Rose Oates (21:52):
Wow, I've done it
for hours.
Rosie Rees (21:54):
And then you get
this like pain because your
muscles are tired.
It was achy.
Yeah, they're like enough.
I'm cramping, I'm like fatigued.
I love this.
Chrystal Russell (22:04):
I get scared
after five minutes.
Rosie Rees (22:11):
Yeah, you need the
string.
Yeah, you need string, you needstring.
And then something I'drecommend for you if you have
that fear, because that's reallycommon is to put your fingers
in you beforehand so you canfeel how deep your vagina is,
and that you know, okay, it'snot gonna hide or get stuck or
lodged in there forever likefeel where your cervix is.
Yeah, because then you know,like this, because so many girls
don't feel comfortable to puttheir fingers that's what I was
(22:34):
just about to butt in and do youknow, I do now.
Rose Oates (22:38):
Okay, I mean I had
to like there was.
I was scared there was kidscoming out.
You know things like that.
But also how many women don'tknow their parts?
I know, this is like reallysounds really like basic
education, I think that's common.
But it is so in all the pollsthat I've ever done, in all the
questions it's they know theyhave a vagina, the inside.
Rosie Rees (23:02):
So the vagina is the
inside passage or canal,
whatever you want to call it.
That leads to the cervix, whichis like the neck of the uterus.
So the uterus is inside, beyondthe cervix, and then you've got
your fallopian tubes andovaries, but the vulva's on the
outside, the vulva's on theoutside and I think that's where
you know.
Everyone just calls this wholething a vagina.
(23:23):
It's kind of like calling yourface a neck oh.
Chrystal Russell (23:28):
Or a throat.
You should have brought yourlittle vagina.
I know Damn.
Rose Oates (23:32):
This is because,
like, we're just starting at the
basics, because I feel like somuch there's not enough
knowledge or topics like placesthat you can go as an adult.
Chrystal Russell (23:43):
Well, I
thought your vulva was your
clitoris.
Rosie Rees (23:47):
Yeah, so I need my
vulva puppet but, like, the
vulva is the whole outside areaof your vagina.
So you've got the pubic moundyes, and then you've got the
clitoris, which is the gland yes, the most important part,
clitoral, and it's just the tipof the iceberg.
So if I had the mold of theclitoris, it's actually got
these two little legs and twobulbs that extend inside the
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vagina and that makes up kind oflike the urethral sponge or the
g-spot.
So you're kind of stimulatingthe clitoris from inside.
When you've got that, come herethe fingering motion goes um,
so you've got the clitoral hood.
Some people have a clitoral hood, other people don't.
Rose Oates (24:25):
Um, then you've got
the inner labia and then the
outer labia, which is the fleshymound on the outside so many
working parts of these okay nowonder some partners and men
have no fucking idea whatthey're doing when they go down
there, because if we don'tunderstand it, how the heck are
they going to exactly?
Rosie Rees (24:43):
it.
Just sit in front of the mirrorand like literally pull it up
and have a look at like how bigyour clitoris is, how small it
is, because there's micro clitsas well.
I've got a really big clitorisand it's so just cool to know
like there's like five differentI checked mine out after birth
I was like, let's see the damage.
Rose Oates (25:00):
Yeah, but it would
be, it would be quite in
engorged it was and it hadstretch marks, it would on it.
Yeah, because well, baby itstretches a lot through a bit.
It stretches a lot, mate,you've been through a bit.
I know we don't give it enoughcredit, mate, and then the
urethra.
Rosie Rees (25:14):
This is stuff that
you can show your daughters as
well.
It's like the urethra.
So many people don't know thatwe don't pee from our vagina, we
pee from the urethra, andthat's kind of where the squirt
can often come from.
Chrystal Russell (25:31):
This is what I
was like.
I need to know this Squirting.
Rose Oates (25:34):
Squirting 101.
Chrystal Russell (25:36):
When you
squirt one, is it urine?
No, well, there's elements,there's urea particles, okay,
and I was like are we weeingwhen we're squirting, or is it
some other form?
Rosie Rees (25:49):
It is coming from
the bladder, but if you were to
like empty your bladder beforesex or stimulation and then
squirt, there will be tinyparticles of urea because it's
coming from the same hole.
But it's like this whole likeprosthetic fluid, psa is in it,
and so it's, yeah, createdwhilst you're really aroused
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it's just yeah, but it comesfrom the same place it does.
Okay, there's like there'ssquirting, which is kind of like
when you gush, and it's quite alot of clear fluid.
And then there's um, and I knowit's like in tantra.
It's called emrita, it's likefemale ejac, which is quite
creamy and like a milky, milkyfluid and that comes from your
(26:34):
skates glands.
So it's, I mean, it's all getsblended into one really, and
it's just if you are reallyhydrated, you feel really turned
on, you feel really safe andsomeone's basically you can have
it with an, or you can squirtwith an orgasm or without an
orgasm, internal penetration ornot.
Internal, like I need internalpenetration, rubbing up against
my G-spot to squirt.
(26:55):
Other people just need someclitoral stimulation and they're
going for it.
Chrystal Russell (26:59):
But are we
talking?
Squirting like a little bit?
Are we talking like what are we?
Rosie Rees (27:05):
Well, there's
gushing, there is gushing, but
that's often glorified in pornto just it's like the more the
better and like that's a lot ofwomen drinking a lot of water
and just performing, okay, butthat's happened to me
spontaneously many times, youknow, out of the blue, but
there's like tiny like, even ifit's just like a little spray
(27:28):
it's just when you're feelingreally safe and comfortable,
because I was like I don't knowthat I ever have squirted, but
maybe this is some homework.
It does require you to relaxand like really open.
I feel like I'm pretty relaxed,but I don't you have, though,
haven't you?
Chrystal Russell (27:39):
Yeah, the face
.
Rosie Rees (27:41):
What was the
circumstance for you?
Rose Oates (27:44):
Well, you know what
Craig actually was like, the one
that was like you know, likewomen can squirt, and it wasn't
through porn.
He actually was looking it upand I was like, okay, I was like
because we were talking aboutmale g spots and female g spots
and I think it's reallyimportant.
He's come from a background umthat, like myself, sex doesn't
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get talked about.
You have have sex, you havekids, whatever, but we don't
talk about that.
It's a no-go topic.
It's an uncomfortable situationin his family.
Actually, my family is quite alot more open now.
We just love freaking, jokingabout it together and being
dirty and ridiculous.
Rosie Rees (28:29):
Especially them
seeing your splash blanket
promos.
Rose Oates (28:31):
Oh my god, my
brothers have really I mean,
some of them have been therehelping throw the water on me or
whatever yeah um, yeah, it'ssomething that has obviously
been in very what's the embraceit's, it's, it's a lot for
Craig's mum and dad.
Um, so Craig has been reallyamazing and open to learning
(28:54):
about things and also likelearning about the male g-spot.
So I was like he went andlooked up the female g-spot and
we had a play.
We actually it was.
It's a lot of communication tomake it comfortable and I was
scared.
I was like it feels like I'mgonna wee, yeah, and it does for
me like at first, and so Iwould hold off.
(29:15):
So I'd get there and I'd belike I'm gonna pee all over you.
But he was really good.
He was like who cares?
Rosie Rees (29:23):
yeah, he's like,
even if it is pee, like I was
just if it feels good you gotyour splash blanket down.
Rose Oates (29:28):
I actually took my
splash blanket today, but it is
100%.
No, it holds up to a litre offluid, guys, and is fully
machine washable.
She went there.
Rosie Rees (29:40):
My ambassador
sitting right here, no joke.
Rose Oates (29:44):
I have about five
and it's my favourite thing and
they're so warm.
Anyway, that's another thing.
You can get one.
I'll put it in the show notes.
You will not regret this.
Rosie Rees (29:55):
I am telling you now
.
Well, I often say you know,your mind is your biggest sex
organ and these blankets are apsychological sex toy.
Like when you have itunderneath you, you are more
willing to release in that goaland make a mess, because as kids
we're often unconsciouslyashamed by our parents for
wetting the bed.
It's just inconvenient, like sowhen we're adults and you're
encouraged to literally wet,you're like let it go, it's.
Rose Oates (30:18):
There's this mental
block, yes, so having that also,
you don't want to dirty yourbed and you don't want to be
sleeping in a wet spot, which,honest to god, it is my biggest
pet hate when I go back to bed.
I've had a good time and I'mlike I'm always lying in the wet
always it's always my side,yeah, and.
I sometimes so strategic,actually get raged about it like
.
I'm like looking at him likeit's our fault and I was like,
(30:40):
why is it always my fault?
Like yeah, whatever.
Um, but yes, I think there wasan element of uh, having to
relax, having my partner be veryokay with it.
I was just like get your faceaway from it.
Rosie Rees (30:53):
Like yeah, because I
was really so.
Maybe you need their face moreup near your face, kissing you
or sucking on your nipples orsomething like.
Sometimes you don't want to doit in their face and that will
shut you down.
Rose Oates (31:04):
There is definitely
a comfort level, I think as well
.
But I think there's also anelement to understanding your
own body.
I I didn't try this with Craigpersonally until I had
experienced and experimentedwith myself more, which took a
lot of relaxation, like ditchingshame around, uh, female
(31:25):
masturbation and actuallyunderstanding my own parts.
So how often, often do you getthat, that people like what we
were just talking aboutunderstanding all the different
parts of our bodies?
What is our clit?
Where's our clit?
Where are we peeing from?
How many holes do we have?
Like is that really essential?
(31:45):
How essential is it really togood sex?
And how important isself-pleasure?
Rosie Rees (31:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh
Well, self-pleasure for me.
I discovered it when I was 19.
I'd just ended a relationshipwith a boyfriend.
He was the only one who couldmake me orgasm, and so I
actually probably hung on tothat relationship a bit longer
than I probably should have,because I thought he held the
key.
But then I went to a sex shopand I bought a vibrator, and
(32:11):
that's when my relationship withsex toys began, and I'm always
grateful for vibrators for that,because vibrators helped me
discover my clit and how to makemyself climax.
But then I kind of desensitizedmyself.
And that's just because of mygenital anatomy.
There are people and I explainthis a lot on my Instagram like
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you can use vibrators and if youcan use it three times a day
and still not be desensitizedthe next day, good for you's not
my body type.
If I use it once, I get prettylike it's hard for me to have an
orgasm the next day or even fora week or so yeah um.
So when I discovered the jadeegg, I had a big message to my
body, a few things actually togo off the pill, which I did.
Um, it told me to stop using myvibrator and just actually go
(32:58):
within.
I had this message like stopfocusing so much on your clit
and actually like build thissensation using the egg inside
my vagina and wake it up.
And I did.
I started like I just actuallymasturbated with my egg.
That's how it started.
And then I was like I just wanta crystal dildo, damn it.
And so that's when I starteddesigning them and making
different shapes and sizes andthe sacred square, because I
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wanted to wake up inside mypussy.
And now I always say my vaginais like a clitoris inside there,
like it's.
Oh, I think that's what we wantyeah, like and.
I I believe everyone can wake uptheir yoni.
I think it requires a lot ofself-healing, so like releasing
layers of shame and guilt aroundlike, yeah, putting your
(33:43):
fingers in your vagina and it'snot just like the vagina, the
actual word vagina.
It means sheath for a sword inlatin, and it's like your vagina
is more than a birth canal andsomewhere to for a penis owner
to put their penis it is.
It is a wealth of pleasuresensation available to you in
there, um, but you have to wakeit up and you have to be willing
(34:04):
to go in, and I think that isvery key.
Rose Oates (34:08):
You've got to be
willing to go in literally in
turn, and it's I.
Rosie Rees (34:12):
This is how I
masturbate, I, and didn't don't
even call it masturbationanymore.
It's like just self pleasure.
Um, so, making that littledistinction.
For me, masturbation is poppinga clit, a clit on my vibrator,
a vibrator on my clit and justbuzzing away for 30 seconds.
That's like getting somethingdone.
Not no shame in that.
Sometimes you just want a quicktension release and that's okay
(34:33):
.
But if I want to self-pleasure,I you know, I'll put a splash
blanket down, I'll sit in frontof my mirror, I'll massage my
breasts, I'll breathe, I'll putsome music on, light a candle,
set an intention and then, likeMatt, like I use so much lube,
like I am covered my whole vulva, I like give her a full vulva
(34:53):
massage.
Yeah, good, Like a full bodymassage and that just wakes
everything up.
And then it's like the most.
If anyone watched me like flyon the wall, they'd be like
really.
Rose Oates (35:04):
It's like so slow
Now I'm really It'd probably be
a turn on for people.
Rosie Rees (35:12):
It's like because
all the dildos on Yoni are glass
and crystal.
Rose Oates (35:17):
They're actually
really beautiful.
Chrystal Russell (35:19):
Pretty.
They're so beautiful yeah.
Like it doesn't look like thisone reminds me of like a long
tongue.
Rose Oates (35:25):
It does so at the
moment I'm holding.
Is it a crystal?
Is this just?
Chrystal Russell (35:30):
a glass.
This is a squirter, isn't it?
Is this a squirter?
Yeah, sacred squirter.
Rose Oates (35:33):
I've got the sacred
squirter and it's just got these
ridges on it.
It does look like a little bitof a tongue.
It's actually stunning Likethey're beautiful looking dildos
Any ASMR with that one I don't.
Rosie Rees (35:47):
Oh, he actually.
You've got the nails too, canyou?
Rose Oates (35:49):
hear that, guys.
Chrystal Russell (35:50):
It's beautiful
and I think but that looks
small to me.
Oh, you know what.
Rosie Rees (35:57):
That's too big for
most people.
If the only feedback.
Rose Oates (36:00):
I get from people is
it's a little thick?
Chrystal Russell (36:03):
Okay, I feel
like that might be small for me.
Rose Oates (36:08):
Okay.
Rosie Rees (36:09):
So We've got a dildo
for you it's called the rocket.
Chrystal Russell (36:13):
I think I've
seen it.
Rose Oates (36:14):
Now, when it comes
to vagina owners, does size
matter?
Rosie Rees (36:20):
Yes.
So I like something quite thickand wide and short.
So Sacred Squirter is my jamand I love the bumps.
Other people do not like thebumps, so we've got something
called the Pussy Paddle which issuper sleek and smooth and you
know the Squirter that'll takeminutes, like a long time, for
me to just insert in.
It's like it's not, you don'tjust shove it in, it's like a
(36:42):
real sensual, mindful experienceand you can feel every bump and
every ridge.
That's that's the intention, Ithink, for resensitizing your
vagina, to feel so, because somany pussies are so numb and
desensitized, because it's afriction sex, because of trauma,
just disassociation, like wejust haven't been taught to
(37:04):
connect, like even if we didtouch our yonis when we were
little, often we were like don'ttouch that, that's dirty.
That's right, and so that sticks.
And so you have to re-educateyourself as an adult woman to
connect to this part of the bodythat we've been told to not
touch.
Rose Oates (37:19):
Oh my God.
My girlfriend has always saidto me for a very, very long time
sex was dirty she.
When it came on the TV when shewas sitting with her parents,
they all would freak out alittle bit, pretend it wasn't on
all their parents.
Her parents would change thechannel and so, even as she got
(37:39):
older, even in her marriage, shewould associate sex with doing
something wrong, and it really,really blocked her for years,
years.
Chrystal Russell (37:51):
I actually did
this last week.
We were watching the Plan withJennifer Lopez where she like
tries for a baby on her ownbecause she hasn't met the one
anyway.
So she meets a guy and thenthey're like ripping each
other's clothes off on thistable and my daughter was
sitting next to me on the couchand I was like, oh, quickly,
pause it.
And then she goes mom, they'renot naked.
Rosie Rees (38:10):
And I was like, oh,
they're not, it's a movie I
think that that is sounrealistic, the way they have
sex in movies, but still.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But the way she said
it too.
I was like, oh, okay.
Rose Oates (38:19):
But also you're not
the only one that does that, and
even now we need to, it endswith us.
This is how I'm I'm holding.
What is this?
This is the cervix serpent.
That one's a bit scary.
I'm sorry, I'm holding thecervix serpent.
Chrystal Russell (38:32):
It almost
looks like a sperm.
Rose Oates (38:34):
It does, it does.
She looks like a sperm, but Iwant the shame.
This is the 3.0.
This is the third generation,the 3.0, yes, yes.
Rosie Rees (38:43):
And this is to be
able to reach the cervix,
because cervixes often are pokedand prodded and scraped and
rammed and they can.
I think cervixes have a lot ofwell in my own experience
sensation and nerve endings, butthey're kind of treated like
they don't.
So which end goes in Either way?
(39:06):
So the really pointed fine endis for de-armoring.
So if you, you can use that andthat's why it's so long.
So you can use one end as ahandle and go in and just gently
press, kind of like mappingyour yoni from six to nine,
twelve, three o'clock andpressing on different segments
for three to five seconds,taking a deep breath in, and
then when you release thebecause you can use your finger,
(39:28):
you don't need the cervixserpent, but sometimes little
fingers and fingernails andstuff is just not hygienic, I
might describe it just foranyone listening and not
watching it is.
Rose Oates (39:39):
how long is this?
Rosie Rees (39:41):
It's about 23
centimetres.
Rose Oates (39:42):
Yeah, that's long,
it's 23 centimetres long, and
just think about all the littlecartoon sperms you've ever seen
in your life.
It looks like a little sperm.
It's actually.
It's also quite pretty, butit's not thick.
Chrystal Russell (39:55):
No, so it's
sleeker A lot of women feel like
I'd whisk my cocktail with that, though yeah, I mean I'm sure
you could.
Rose Oates (40:01):
It's a glass, it's
clean too yeah, it's borosilic
glass.
Rosie Rees (40:06):
It can go in the
dishwasher if you want it to.
Hey, that's this is theultimate clean toy.
Well, this is, like the mostyou know, highest grade body
safe toy you can get your handson that'll last forever.
You know you can pass this downto your children if you wanted
to, but are they?
Chrystal Russell (40:22):
correct me if
I'm wrong.
Are they smash proof?
No, you could still smash itthey.
Rosie Rees (40:26):
These ones are
annealed and tempered, which
means like they've gone throughthis extra process when they're
um making them.
So if there's any imperfectionit'll just blow up in it.
Yeah, okay, so if you drop itit shouldn't break, but if you
drop it from a high level ontoconcrete it probably will.
Chrystal Russell (40:43):
Because I've
had this conversation with
friends about your business andthey're like crystal toys, is
that dangerous?
And I'm like no, no.
Rosie Rees (40:50):
Does that question
get asked a lot there are
crystals that you shouldn't putin your pussy for sure.
We only sell crystals that aretotally safe.
I mean, some people think thatrose quartz isn't safe.
And you know I've been usingrose quartz in my vagina for 10
years and I'm alive and thriving, so I'm good.
I think it's just a matter ofjust checking it.
Like we have a third party aswell who check, and obviously my
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staff who check every singlecrystal that goes out.
So there's no imperfection onthe crystal.
But if you're worried and thisis why I brought in glass,
because sort of five years intomy business I thought some
people don't want crystal- andcrystal is expensive and it's
heavy and it is more breakable.
So if you do drop it it willbreak a lot easier than glass.
So then I brought out the glassum line of dildos and they're
(41:35):
just.
They're more affordable, youknow, they're lighter weight.
They obviously don't hold thatsort of vibration if you're into
crystals and like the energy.
But for me, to heal thoselayers of sexual trauma I had to
use a black obsidian dildo.
Yeah, yeah, definitely clearsout the bad juju all of this.
Rose Oates (41:55):
I know, but then
actually can I go back to the
question?
I think we were going that wayand then we got distracted by
these pretty pretty dildos ofthe shame around sex in general,
especially for females.
Why we hold it in the firstplace, I think, can really
affect our sex life and ourorgasms and even feeling like we
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can self-pleasure without guilt.
I have spoken to a lot ofgirlfriends actually, and some
just feel awkward.
Even talking about this wouldbe awkward, let alone even when
they're on their own.
They feel awkward to starttouching themselves it it.
Chrystal Russell (42:41):
It almost
feels shameful even on their own
but that comes back to thegrowing up thing again, isn't it
?
Rosie Rees (42:47):
it is yeah, it is.
It's.
There's layers of culturalupbringing um religion yeah
religion's big oh my god, yeslike you know, there's stories,
like people have said, like ifthey masturbate or touch
themselves they'll go to hell.
Yes, I heard that I don't knowgo blind.
I've heard so many stories.
Oh my God, Go blind, fuckinghell.
Rose Oates (43:06):
Yeah, every guy we
know would be bloody blind
Literally.
Rosie Rees (43:10):
So true.
And then it's like, as an adult, we get to unpack that and we
get to rewire our relationshipto our yoni and, yeah, like our
parents were just doing the bestjob they could and we can't
blame them.
You know, we need to take itinto our own control and our,
(43:32):
you know, reclaim it.
So, yeah, gosh.
Chrystal Russell (43:40):
But I think
too, like I've had this
conversation with girlfriendsbefore, some of my friends have
been embarrassed to orgasm infront of their partner.
What?
Yeah, because it's like do theylook, do they make a weird face
or do their eyes roll, or likeit's maybe not as sexy as what
they're picturing in a porn.
I'm not not sure.
Rosie Rees (43:56):
It's also the you're
the most vulnerable and exposed
and open ever when you arebeing sexual, especially when
you're giving oral or receivingoral.
That is as vulnerable as itgets and, like I think, a lot of
women don't let themselves goor don't let their partner go
(44:16):
down on them because of the fearof the smell and the look and
the taste and it's like, no, wereally need to, you know,
re-educate people around thisand normalize being vulnerable,
because that that's what it is.
Chrystal Russell (44:30):
it's scary,
but yeah, you gotta have.
You have to be vulnerable tolet yourself get into that full
thing of like letting go.
Rose Oates (44:37):
It ends with us guys
.
We can stop this cycle.
Also, how, like your, partnertreats you.
Rosie Rees (44:44):
If your partner
doesn't create safety for you to
want to open, then it could bea red flag, like I've been
blessed with many amazingpartners and I've had incredible
experiences except for once ortwice.
Amazing partners and I've hadincredible experiences except
for once or twice.
But yeah, like if they don'tlet you, if they don't, if
they're judging you, or likedon't pee on me, kind of thing
(45:04):
little comments like that, orabout smell or they don't go
down on you.
Yep, fucking red flag.
Rose Oates (45:10):
I agree, or
conversations need to be had.
At least start communicatinghow that makes you feel, because
as much as we talk about like,females don't know about their
bodies, their men don't knowabout female bodies they haven't
been taught either so it's justas important and also a lot of
women don't want to guide theirpartner into hey, move your hand
(45:32):
here, move this there.
Chrystal Russell (45:33):
Like I won't
lie, I do it a lot.
Yeah, like just a tiny bit tothe left.
Rose Oates (45:39):
I don't think
there's anything wrong with that
.
No, I don't either.
Chrystal Russell (45:42):
So nice and
also I'm not gonna waste like an
hour, like just move a littletiny bit to the right and then
we're good.
Rose Oates (45:49):
Yeah, I had to like
make Craig tell me what feels
good for him yes because I think, even for him, as a penis owner
, he didn't they sort of thinkthat there's only one way for
them to orgasm and I was likedoes this feel good?
Do you like this?
So I started asking, even if itwas weird, just popping my head
up hello do you like it?
Rosie Rees (46:09):
side to side, or up
and down, or around and around?
Rose Oates (46:12):
and he used to say
to me sorry, craig, it all feels
good.
And I was like yeah, but doesthis feel better?
Chrystal Russell (46:19):
Yes.
Rose Oates (46:19):
And that
communication, like it just.
Chrystal Russell (46:22):
And how many
people are having those
conversations.
I can guarantee not a lot.
But it's important, I thinkhave those conversations with
your partner.
Rosie Rees (46:30):
People don't like
rejection.
That's true so they don't wantto hurt feelings and they don't
yeah, they don't want to expresswhat they really need in the
bedroom.
Yeah, and I think at the startyou've got to really set the
tone from the start of therelationship, but also in saying
that it's never too late, all Ican say is don't fake your
orgasm.
Yes.
And if you are stop now, startagain, okay.
Chrystal Russell (46:52):
Because then
when you do actually orgasm,
your partner's going to be likewhat the fuck was all the other
times.
Rose Oates (46:57):
Yep, I think huge
peak Like let's take that from
Rosie today.
If you are faking an orgasm,you're going to stop today
because you're not doingyourself any favors, or your
partner or your future partner.
Rosie Rees (47:09):
Also, the way you
self-pleasure or masturbate is
different to the way you havesex and we need to realize that
you you know, just because youmasturbate in a certain way
doesn't mean that's what youneed in sex, um?
Or conversely, maybe you needto incorporate something that
you do in self-pleasure in thebedroom, for example,
incorporating in a vibrator, um,and, and not being shamed for
(47:30):
that.
There's nothing wrong with thatif you need the vibrator and,
by the way, like what is it?
70 or 80% of women can't climaxwithout clitoral stimulation.
So, if you're having a lot ofpenis and vagina penetration and
if you're not coming, you needclitoral touch whilst you're
getting penetrated.
So if you need to rub your clit.
I remember getting like judgedby this tantric guy I was with
(47:54):
who didn't want me to touch myclit during um sex to get like
well you, then you need to he,he thought it was not spiritual
enough oh oh, like clitoralorgasms were.
Yeah, like not glory, likespiritual glorified and like
yeah okay, that question forthat can everyone orgasm
(48:18):
internally?
Rose Oates (48:20):
can we all have that
in?
You know like I can orgasmclitorally, but I struggle more
internally.
So is it something everyone iscapable of?
Rosie Rees (48:32):
I believe.
So yes, I really do.
And when you're having aclitoral orgasm, do you notice
that your vagina clenches aswell?
So it's still it's like ablended orgasm when you do have
that clitoral, especially whenyou have something inside you.
So if you're not havinginternal orgasms, maybe you're
not having enough internalpenetration.
(48:54):
You really do need a finger, adildo or a penis or something, a
strap-on in your vagina,rubbing up against the G-spot,
the A-spot, the P-spot, thecervix, to wake it up and like
sometimes it's pressure,sometimes it's speed, sometimes
it's the tempo, like you know,sometimes it's going really slow
(49:17):
, like slowing the fuck down andbuilding up the pace and that
communication piece as well.
Chrystal Russell (49:25):
But this comes
down to like spending time in
the bedroom, not wham bam.
Thank you, ma'am.
Rose Oates (49:30):
I think there's a
time and a place for a quickie,
isn't there, but it's often notin our best interest to do it
all the time.
But quality over quantity Arewe like?
Is that?
Rosie Rees (49:42):
I'm going to say
that, yeah, oh definitely Like I
recommend couples to have likeone time a week where they're
going deep, like just even ifit's a half an hour or an hour
once a week on a Sunday morning,or whether it's nighttime or
daytime, find when your likepower hour is when you're not
distracted.
(50:03):
Kids aren't there.
Lock the doors you know,whatever you need to do.
Chrystal Russell (50:06):
We laughed in
Bali, remember?
Yeah, rose was bent over abathroom sink.
Oh, because I had the Doorclosed and I think Craig was
shutting the door with his legwhile yous were having a shower.
Rose Oates (50:18):
Yeah, because I hit
myself on the tap.
Chrystal Russell (50:22):
And at
breakfast we were losing it,
laughing, because I was likewhat did you get up to this
morning?
You were like well, I was bentover a bathroom sink.
It was like this guy.
Rose Oates (50:31):
I was holding on for
dear life, so I was holding on
to the two taps and then likethe two handles and then I went
forward and he had his foot halfon the door because this was a
tiny bathroom, because we havefour kids in the room and he
slipped and I've pushed forwardand smacked into the tap, but so
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sex injuries sex injuries.
We were cracking up and but wasso obviously I didn't get off.
But the fun and the laughter.
It was the connection for methere.
It was the connection and wewere just cracking up Like I had
a little red mark for ages.
I saw it at breakfast.
That's classic, yeah.
Rosie Rees (51:11):
So I think you need
that like closeness once a week,
at least once a week.
Well, ash and I have a rule wedon't go two weeks without yes,
I call it connecting, sexuallyconnecting.
And if you go beyond two weeks,that's when it's a slippery
slope, because then you can gopush it out to a month and then
you don't have sex for a fewmonths and then, before you know
it, it's a year, yeah, andthere is so much resentment and
(51:34):
so much emotional shit andbaggage between you and it's?
it's almost like you desexualizeyour partner and they become
like a friend and then you don'tlook at them like a lover
anymore and you don't fantasizeabout them and the like.
You have to want to have sexand like listen, I've been going
through grief over the past sixmonths and I haven't wanted sex
very much, but we do still havethat rule.
(51:57):
Every two weeks we connect insome way.
Chrystal Russell (51:59):
I think that's
really important.
Yeah, I think having that not arule, but it's kind of like you
know something in place thatlike if we get over the two-week
mark, we need to have a chatabout what's happening, because
you're bickering more usuallyYou're a bit more snappy at each
other.
Rose Oates (52:15):
You know, you're not
as happy having the
conversation.
What I'm not putting out.
Chrystal Russell (52:19):
Devon is a bit
angry at me.
There's something that you can.
Rosie Rees (52:22):
You can also it
doesn't have to be penis in
vagina sex.
It could be like I.
I think it's really importantto have like worship sessions
where you receive fully and youdon't have to give to them.
It's just about you fullyreceiving like.
When a woman can feel like shecan just let the fuck go and she
knows in her head okay, I'mafter this, I'm gonna have to
like go down on them or whateveryou are just receiving, and if
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they want to masturbate afterthey can.
But it's, it's just about you,wow.
And then switching turns atanother night where it's just
about him or it's just about herand you're just giving to them.
And I like that, because men,everyone loves being worshipped
in some way, but menparticularly like a good blowjob
, but like giving to him fullybeing present is you know, with
(53:08):
no expectation, I agree.
Rose Oates (53:09):
I think that's also
a nice way to spice it up,
change things up in the bedrooma bit.
Rosie Rees (53:14):
Yeah, getting a
massage, yoni massage Dress up
as a financial advisor, pretendyou're back in the bedroom a bit
.
Chrystal Russell (53:18):
yeah, getting
a massage you any massage dress
up as a financial advisor,pretend you're back in the
corporate job.
Rosie Rees (53:22):
Oh, don't remind me
yes.