Rose and Chrystal with special guest Lauren Dunn

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Rose Oates (00:05):
Welcome to Bearing it All with Rose and Crystal.

Chrystal (00:08):
Where the conversations get real emotions
run raw and nothing is filtered.

Rose Oates (00:13):
Buckle up, because we're Bearing it All deep,
diving into everything frommotherhood to mental health and
everything in between.
We want to get to know you,each other and our bodies, and
things are going to get spicy.
Welcome back to another episodeof Bearing it All with Rose and
Crystal.

Chrystal (00:28):
Today on our potty we have Lauren Hi.

Rose Oates (00:32):
You may know her previously from maths, but I'm
so excited to have you on.
Thank you for coming.
I'm so excited to be here.
I love you guys.

Chrystal (00:40):
We've been in chats with Lauren for a couple of
months now getting to know her,and this girl is frigging
amazing.

Rose Oates (00:46):
Yeah, she's a real girl's girl honest, funny and
honestly.
What you see is what you get.

Chrystal (00:52):
I just love the fact that she brings a massive, big
grilled cheese and ham sandwichto my salon and eats it Like
that is frigging amazing.

Rose Oates (01:01):
She's a foodie and a fellow mimosa drinker.
Cheers, cheers, girls.

Chrystal (01:07):
Can you believe that we're almost in 2025?
It's actually scary.
That is so scary.
Well, today's starting off.
We're going to get right intoit, but we kind of want to know
where was Lauren before maths?

Lauren Dunn (01:22):
Okay, so before maths, I had built up my
business, so I have a powermarketing business called lcd
consulting and I was at like theheight of my career, had the
most clients I'd ever had, waslike doing really well.
I was like super happy.
Um, and then maths cameknocking and I was like fuck, no

(01:42):
, like I can't do that.
One I can't do that showbecause everyone who does that
show is an unhinged psychopath.
And two, like I need like astorage unit for the skeletons
in my closet, so your firstthing was no, no way.

Rose Oates (01:56):
And when you say maths came a knocking, so did
you apply or did they come andfind you?

So they've been hitting me up for a few years.

Rose Oates (02:03):
Wow.

Yeah, so or did they come and find you?
Yeah, so they've been hittingme up for a few years, wow, yeah
, so a few years they've beenhitting me up.
And then they tried to get meon another show, which they
didn't have a name for, and thatwas called Love Triangle.
It ended up being Love Triangle, oh.
And so I actually flew over toSydney to meet with them.

(02:28):
I was still with my ex-partner,like, look, they want to meet me
for this show.
It's pretty sure it's a datingshow, but they're going to fly
me to sydney.
I'm just going to take the trip.
I've got no intention.
He was like, okay, you're a bitof a nutter, but whatever, I'll
go.
So I went and they interviewedme and it went really well and
it was funny and we had a reallygood rapport with, like, the
producers.
And then they were like, look,you know, I love triangle, this
is what the show is going to be,blah, blah.
But like, we really want youfor our big show, what's so?
What's your big show?
And then it's mass and I waslike no, yeah ever going to
happen.
And then fast forward a year andthey hit me up again and I just

(02:51):
just just broke it up with mylong-term partner, like we're
talking like six weeks wow um,and I was like I I just said
there's no way I could dosomething like this.
I would just it would ruin mylife.
And I spoke to a few of myclosest friends and they were
like you should do it and theother like big reason to do it
was it would just be like thenail in the coffin for my

(03:11):
relationship that I just keptgoing back to and I thought, oh
no, if I go on this and I marrysome absolute stranger on TV,
like it's done, Surely surely,yeah, it's not going to go back
after that?
Surely, sure, you'd think so,but you know oh my Crazy things
have happened.

Rose Oates (03:27):
I love that they scouted you and, to be honest
with you, mate, you're perfectfor it.
Oh, thank you, I can't think of.
You were my favourite, you wereour favourite.

Chrystal (03:35):
We used to do maths chats on the potty and we were
always like we used to be likeit's Mavs, Chats or food in my
teeth.

I don't know if it's food or food.
I love the Mavs.

Rose Oates (03:47):
Chats Like it was play school, yeah, for adults.

There's some funny like when the show was airing
and stuff.
I never listened to anythingbecause I, just for my own
anxiety, I was like I don't wantto have like you, or oh, this
is so cool I think everybodyloved you.

Chrystal (04:06):
Yes, like I mean, obviously you've got some haters
, because we all do, but I thinkmajority loved you you know
what I had.

A good response, I think authenticity rules.

Chrystal (04:18):
That's, oh my god, just some of the shit that used
to come out of your mouth.
I would be watching it,cracking myself going.
When am going to meet this?

Rose Oates (04:25):
lady.
And look, that was my daughteryesterday.
I said, guess who's on thepotty tomorrow?
I'm like remember Lauren fromMouths she's like Lauren Really.

Oh, that makes my heart warm and fuzzy.

Rose Oates (04:36):
She was like her comments because she remembers
when you were talking aboutbloody Jack Greer getting
greased up.
Oh, about bloody Jack Greergetting greased up, oh yeah, I
was like, oh my God, indy.
She's like who can I tell?
And I was like she's only 16.

You're like everybody.
I love that.
The teenage girls and the gayslove me.
Like what better combo.

Rose Oates (04:55):
Exactly, and I'm like what better, like a role
model to have, like a strongindependent, like a woman that
speaks her mind.
Thank you, yeah.

I feel like that's, I think, as well with the show.
We had two like femaleexecutive producers and they
were really like encouraging ofus to speak our mind and it was
very much like when theyrealised that I was like a dog
with a bone with certain issues.
They were like they justencouraged me like keep going,
keep going.
And I was like fucking, don'thave to tell me twice because
I've got nothing else to do.
I, you don't have to tell metwice, I've got nothing else to

(05:23):
do.
I can't go to work each day.
My husband's boring as fuck.
I was like I'm just going to goafter the rest of them.

Chrystal (05:28):
No, it was good TV.

Like at the end of it, like there was never any
animosity, like Jack was a moron.
But the thing is I don't careenough about this dude to make
it too serious.
And it was interesting.
Look, it made good TV.
I thoroughly enjoyed watchingit.
I'd watch it sometimes and belike girl, why didn't you brush?

Chrystal (05:47):
your hair.

But besides that I was like this is funny.

Chrystal (05:52):
Look at your funeral.
No one's going to be like shedidn't brush her hair.
They're going to remember youfor a long.

Yeah me, you guys are going to be in.
The'll be like this I would be.

Chrystal (06:03):
I would be like with the makeup brush too.

Rose Oates (06:05):
Yes, I'll be laying there and she'll be like fucking
bitch didn't do her hair.

I would hope so that you would do that for me oh
my God, absolutely Okay.

Chrystal (06:13):
So before we jump like too deep into masks because
we're already in it, yeah, like,give us a little bit more Like.
So obviously you were in arelationship, you got scouted,
you were doing your businesslike what were, what were some
other things like did you everthink I'm gonna be on tv?

no, I, I thought about it a lot and because I've
got like a um, like a mediabackground and all my friends
work in media, all my friendsare publicists, talent managers,
um, it's, you know, we're all,we're all very much in that kind
of world behind the scenes,I've had a really good
understanding of what I wasabout to get myself into and
that's why I had a lot ofinternal dialogue about pros and
cons, like what's the pros,what's the cons?

(06:51):
Like this could really fuckshit up for you or it could go
really well.
And so, yeah, I had a lot ofthat.
And so when they rang me andsaid to me we found your match,
you're on, I just went silent.
They were your match, you're on, I just went silent.
They were like it's not reallythe reaction we were hoping for.

(07:12):
And I was like, look, yeah,okay.
And then I started thinkinglike just overthinking
everything.
But there's also another layerto this.
So when I split up with mylong-term partner, I went to
Bali.
We actually hadn't split up atthis point.
I went to Bali.
We had like a big argument wentto Bali with a friend of mine
and her partner and, um, youknow, I met someone else and I
broke up with my boyfriend, mylongtime boyfriend, and you know
it was very much coming.
I'd given him an ultimatum,essentially so that we could

(07:35):
start planning our future, notin terms of like I didn't want
to like, propose or kids oranything.
I just wanted to know some moreserious things like I'm gonna
buy a house together and what'syour financial situation?
And this is mine.
And like I, this is what I wantto do, and like we've been
together for nearly six years,like you're a lot older than me,
like let's, that's fair.
Yeah, this is a fairconversation.
And he, every time I bring itup, he would be like, oh, month,

(08:05):
to just bring the conversation.
I just broached the topic withme.
Um, otherwise, I'm done.
Anyway, the month came and went.
When I was in bali, met someoneelse, broke up with my ex and
because I met someone else and Ihad really strong feelings for
him, really really quickly, likewhen I was with my ex the
entire time never thought aboutone other person, like I was
madly, madly in love, yeah.
But when I met this guy, I waslike like, like I'm, I'm now
fully checked out of the otherrelationship.

(08:25):
Yeah, fully checked out.
I literally never thought abouthim again.
This guy, he lives in bali.
So this is the whole likescandal that happened.
Like apparently I had aboyfriend in bali.
He wasn't my boyfriend, but wedid spend a week together and
then, when I came back to perth,I wanted to.
We were still in contact and wedid have conversations.
Like I end up having to tellhim that I'm, because it'll

(08:46):
happen like so quickly, right,like I'm talking in like the
space of like a week broke upwith my dude and then masses in
the dms they'd already been inthe dms so I ended up responding
but then I met this guy and Isaid to him like look, it
actually got leaked in in the,in the media, and then, like
hearth now posted something, soit was everywhere.
So tell him.
And I was like, look, I've beenthinking of doing this.
And he was like, do not do that, it's going to ruin your life.

(09:09):
And I was like, well, do youwant to be with me?
And he's like, well, we couldbe.
And I was like, well, we don'treally know each other that well
, but I'm not going to say no tothis.
Yeah, expecting some guy thatbarely knows me to drop
everything and say I'll be withyou.
We also live in differentcountries.
So I kind of thought I'll go dothis.
I'm praying, I meet the love ofmy life, but if I don't, I was

(09:33):
kind of hoping he'd still bethere.
When I got back and didn't meetthe love of my life, told John
about the situation I actuallylike because we got a few weeks
in and I was like, oh, I don'tthink I can do this.
I actually think that this hasmade me realise I like someone
else, and so I was really honestwith him about that and I
wanted to leave.
And he was like, please don'tleave, we can work through this.
And I was like, all right, I'mwilling to try.
That went well, but anyway, andso when the show wrapped up I

(09:59):
know we're jumping ahead a bit,but I just thought that this guy
would still be there and he wasnot.
He just said I told you he'slike I just can't yeah, I can't
fathom that.
So it was like a big.
But that's why, like, going onthe show was hard, because I had
so many things to consider.
I was worried about what my exwas going to do and say like
retaliation I was worried aboutlosing this guy, that I thought

(10:21):
I was literally like falling inlove with.

Chrystal (10:23):
Yeah, yeah.

And then I was, you know, dealing with being on a
show where like three millionpeople watch every week and they
really are invested in yourlife and if they think you're
treating someone badly like,they love that show.
People love the show.

Rose Oates (10:39):
I love the show.

So, yeah, there was a lot to think about, and also
like my family, like my dad, dad, my mom and dad, business
people and just everything, andbut they were like you know, do
it.

Rose Oates (10:49):
I don't think we realized how much was going on
in such a short period of timeand it was like it was honestly
like a two or three weekturnaround for me.

Everyone else had like gone through like the three
month process and then like I,I, I didn't even sign my
contract to like the morning,the morning of the wedding, and
by then we'd done all thefilming and every time we filmed
, they'd be like we can't filmuntil you sign.
I'm like, well, I don't knowyet, so I'm not signing.
And they're like, oh, so theyfilmed me the other day.

Chrystal (11:11):
So, lauren, and literally on the morning of the
applicants probably went throughthe whole process and they
wanted you baby.
They wanted you on the show.

I knew they wanted me.
I knew they wanted me for along time.
I know that sounds a bitarrogant, but I've got the right
personality type.
I think the only time I knewthey wanted me is when I did one
of my pre-interviews and I waslike I'm a fucking psychopath.

Rose Oates (11:41):
And they were like ding, ding, ding, ding ding.
They're like sign the contract.
Bitch, here she is.

And I was like that's it.
I was like, oh, but I am.
It's true, I'm a fucking notjob.

Chrystal (11:52):
Listen, they can't have all of the same type of
people.
It's boring.

Rose Oates (11:55):
It's boring.
We want good TV.
We want juice.
Yeah, mention something thatbrings up this question.
You're with your previouspartner for six years now.
You've openly spoke about thefact that you were in a dv
relationship, but that wasn'tthe reason why you left so I've
actually, yeah, so no, look, sothat was.

We did have a situation it was a part of the
relationship, yeah with one ofmy previous partners.
Um, however, it did change,like it didn't happen for the
last couple years of therelationship and we're in a
really good place and I didn'tleave for that reason and that's
a really hard thing for me toconsolidate, as I consider
myself a strong woman and I'm,you know, like people kind of

(12:41):
come to me with advice and stuff, but I think it was.
It made me like really insecureand really like emotionally
unstable.
I was unhinged, I was like notthinking straight and the more
these situations would happen,the more I'd want to stay with
him and like I just felt like Ihad nowhere else to go and like
I've got an amazing supportivefamily who would do anything for

(13:02):
me, and same with my, myfriends, like I have the most
incredible friends.
But in those situations, youdon't want to tell your family
and friends for multiple reasons.
One of the main reasons isbecause you know you're going to
go back and if you tell them,you can't go back and they're
going to hate your partner.
Two, I felt like I just didn'thave anything but him.
Like if I didn't have him in mylife, what did I have my life?

(13:27):
What did I have?
Yeah, like I really didn't.
Like I was like he's my world,um, I was so reliant on him,
like emotionally, everything.
But then I was also quite nastyto him, like because of what
was going on.
I was mean I would ice him outfor weeks at a time, like he'd
try and be nice to me and makeit up to me and I'd be like fuck
off like yeah and I would likeargue back with him and I pick
fights with him and so like alot of that.
I look back and it's veryconfusing because it's like was

(13:49):
it him or was it me?
And I now I now know that like,like violence in any situation
is never the answer yeah but Iwould, I would find myself
provoking him or even fightingback with him, and then I'm like
oh why?
and then sending crazy textmessages yeah like Like saying
crazy shit, Like stuff that,like you know, I would also be
worried that if I ever pursuedlike in any kind of like with

(14:14):
the police or whatever, theywould just read a few messages
and go that shit's crazy, thatdoesn't matter.
I know that that does happen.
The police often do look atthose kind of things.
But I now know that now thatI'm out of it, I have a clear
mind and that I'm not blinded bythe situation that that is
ridiculous.
Yeah, and I think as well I'veused my platform to say like
I've had threats like leveledagainst me and you know, if you

(14:37):
say this, I'll release this fromhim.
Right, yeah and um, you knowthat that happened for like a
whole year, like saying that hewas going to send it to my
manager, he was going to releaseit in the press, that he was
working with a journalist toexpose me, and this was all like
if you don't give me anotherchance, I'm going to expose you
yeah.

(14:57):
And I was like do it.

Chrystal (15:01):
Yeah, you got to a point where you're like, I don't
care.

Yeah, I had communication with him while I
was filming the show.
Yeah, I had a dude before theshow that I did think that I
would get back with if thingsdidn't work out like.
I'm not afraid to say it.
Yeah, um, yeah, I've sentpsychotic messages to you like
but who hasn't?

Chrystal (15:20):
like honestly, like crazy, I think I sent my husband
one this morning, yeah but nowI know about that as well.

A lot of women have been in my dm since I posted
that, saying, you know, like Ireally was down on myself for
constantly going back, so I feltlike I had to stand on.
However, I've learned sincethen that there's something
called reactive abuse and it'slike when you react, the things
that you're going through, andthen it doesn't become about
what they've done, it becomesabout your reaction, and it was
always my reaction.
I was breaking things in thehouse, I was throwing fry pans,

(15:48):
I was like crazy, like bydefinition, I was unwell and I,
you know, I did, I self-harmed,like I did crazy shit, yeah,
yeah, um.
And I look back now and I'mlike j, I was a broken little,
not so little, quite big, butlike metaphorically little.

(16:09):
What do?

Chrystal (16:09):
they call it, though when it's like the something
effect, it's like the.
You know, something happens toyou and then it's the effect of
it after that makes you yeah,it's like it's called a word.

Rose Oates (16:18):
It's like you're on a hamster wheel.
You can't get off it.
You don't know how to get outof it.

And the worst part about it is like I loved him so
much.
And like we had future, wewanted to get married, and when
the good times were good, theywere incredible.
It was like a fairy tale.
It was like the I'm going totake you shopping, takes me out,
buys me whatever I want to wear, and then he's booked a
degustation at my favouriterestaurant and then Like times
like that.
But then the bad times werelike horrific, yeah.

(16:44):
And so you just and I think nowI'm in this stage because we
like I'm fully done, I wouldnever, ever go back there we did
have, like after the show, wedid have back and forth because
we have the same friends.
Well, we did.
It's kind of changed a littlebit now, but we share some of
the.
We share a mutual best friendthat I met through him and I
just wanted things to be okay.
I didn't want everyone else'slives to be disrupted because of

(17:06):
what was going on with us.
So we would still do like thegroup dinners and it just didn't
work and I was very much like Idon't want to be with you and I
don't think he could fathomthat.
But then when I felt himpulling away from me, I would
find myself reaching back out tohim and it was very much a
creature comfort situation.

(17:26):
The brain is more drawn to thechaotic familiarity than they
are the peaceful unknown.
I'm like a fucking Dr Philright now.

Rose Oates (17:37):
Oh, I love that.
Oh, my God, you heard it here.
Take that quote.

Take that quote.

Rose Oates (17:42):
That philosopher Lauren is on the pod today.

I love that, but that really resonated me because
I'm like even like up untillike a few months ago, I was
like wanting to know what he wasdoing and where he was and like
, are you dating anyone?
But like knowing that I wouldnever, ever be with him, and
that wasn't fair.

Rose Oates (18:00):
But like it was that , like I want that comfort.
Yeah, it feels like you knowthat, yeah, and you're okay with
it.

Yeah, but then like I felt like he was holding that
over me, like well, you knowyou're saying you're exposing me
, but like you're still hittingme up and I'm like but still, to
this day, you have not 100%exposed him.

Chrystal (18:17):
Like you have not, and I feel like that's such a big
thing for you, like you coulddefinitely be, like it's this
person, yeah, but you haven't,which shows a level of like
maturity from you, I see.

I think it's that as well.
But then on the flip side ofhow people reach out and be like
, well, you should say something, because what about other women
?
And I'm like that's a hard one,but I hope that, despite like
talking about what I've spokenabout, people can connect the
dots.
They also have to be carefulbecause you know things have
been thrown around about legalimplications.

Chrystal (18:51):
Yeah, I mean you are on a public platform, you know.

And you want to go there, though I'll run you into
the ground, but still don'treally want to go there.
About you taking back, yourpower for you and the fact that
you're using your platform inthat sense to just like, yeah,
you know, give back and showpeople that you can leave and
that you can heal in a lot ofways, and I think as well, like

(19:16):
one of the main messages Iwanted to get out there and like
I've had thousands of womenlike dance from women on the
similar situation is, if you goback, like dance from women on
this similar situation is, ifyou go back, it's not like it's
making what they've done nulland void, like there's actual
medical, psychological studiesand terminology for that.
It's like Stockholm Syndrome,yeah.
Do you know what I mean.

(19:36):
Like, and a lot of women aretoo scared to like, say or do
anything because like, oh, Iwent back or I told him I loved
him.
A week later and it's in amessage.
I'm like you fucking care, yeah, it doesn't matter, yeah, it
does, it does not matter.
And like, I think now that I'vebeen so open about it, people
can see that this just doesn'thappen to the battered woman in
suburbia with a cardigan wrappedaround her and her three kids

(19:59):
in the grocery store.
Like you know what I mean.
Like we've got this image ofwhat yeah, what kind of no.
It happens to everybody ithappens to literally, yeah,
unfortunately everybody, likemost women I know, have even
same-sex relationships.

Rose Oates (20:13):
It's huge, it is huge yeah, absolutely,
absolutely doesn't look one way.
No, you don't have to be acertain you know stereotype to
be in a dv relationship.
Yeah, I've been there myself.
It is like it just takessomething away from your soul,
absolutely like it.
It's the confidence.

(20:33):
For me, it's the destroying ofyour confidence and how hard
that is to build it back andalso to trust another person.
We were talking about it beforeand when I met craig after he
couldn't believe like hecouldn't say I love you, he
couldn't say I was beautiful, hecouldn't call me sexy I
literally would not havebelieved him.
I was like don't talk to me,don't say those things, it's not

(20:54):
true.

You don't have to lie to me yeah so that's just
like you protecting yourselfbecause you don't want to be
like sucked back in and thensomething bad, and that's like
me.
I'm always waiting for theother shoe to drop, like I.
I am just like I have likesevere ptsd which I go to like a
therapist for, but also likeI'm just always like if

(21:15):
something's too good to be true,I'm like it is yeah, and that's
just kind of how how I am now,like I'm seriously traumatized
human being being.
However, I'm not just atraumatised human being.
I am successful, I'm confident,I'm very happy, which is funny
Like you hear me say like I'mtraumatised, but I'm really
happy, I'm the happiest I'veever been.
Those two things can both exist.

Chrystal (21:38):
We have spoken about this Because same with my
situation, you know, like withmy dad's passing People are like
, oh, but she's happy, but thenshe's still sad.
It's like, yes, you can be both.

Rose Oates (21:46):
Both can coexist.
It's not one or the other.
Life's not like that, and I'mso sick of it.

I agree and I think , even with my ex, like, I still
have moments of sadness whereI'm grieving what I thought my
life was going to be grievingthe person that I loved, that I
genuinely had such high hopesthat there was going to be
something for us.
So I still have moments.
It doesn't mean I still lovehim or I'm going to be with him,
but I still am having thosemoments of wanting to.

(22:13):
We tend to romanticise the goodtimes.
There's all these differentstages and now that I know that
there's no chance of us evergetting back together, I think
me posting what I posted wasvery much my stamp.
Yeah, closure, yeah, closure.
Yeah, it's hard.
It is hard, but I don't feelthat love anymore.
Yeah, I just feel a little bitof like again.

(22:36):
I want that creature comfort.

Chrystal (22:38):
Yeah, and you know what, at the end of the day,
we're all fucking human andthat's what we long for
sometimes.
Yeah, we're all fucking humanand that's what we long for
sometimes.
But I think, if we're going totake away anything from this,
the important message here isfor any women in relationships
you know where things are, maybenot the greatest.
You are not weak if you stay inthe relationship for six months
or six years or 16 years.
The thing is like when yourecognize that these things are

(23:01):
happening.
Reach out to people if you can.
Obviously, yeah, reach out tolauren.
Reach out to people if you can.
Obviously Reach out to Lauren.
Reach out to people If youdon't have friends or family to
talk, to talk to an outsider.
That's right.
But leaving is not the end ofthe world.

It's not.
And a lot of women as well,like they have houses, they have
kids, and that seems hard andyou're not weak for not leaving.

Chrystal (23:21):
That's right.

But my biggest advice, and something I'm really
happy I did, is tell people,yes, tell people.

Rose Oates (23:27):
Even if it's just one person at first.

One person.

Rose Oates (23:30):
And there is places you can go, like I know a lot of
the financial institutionsactually provide support for
women in these situations,because a lot of the time, your
DV is also tied to financial andit's very scary leaving if you
do not have the money to leave.
Yeah, so you can walk into yourbank and actually um, divulge

(23:51):
this information and they haveservices in place that can help
you as well.

There's like a lump sum payment that you can get
instantly, um, which I'veactually been made aware of
recently through a woman thatI've been talking to who just
recently left her partner withher teenage kids.
Um, and yeah, but the thing is,I just think that everyone
needs to know that this is awidespread issue yeah and it's
not it's.
It's just you just don't know.

(24:16):
And I think if you've gotfriends that are going through
this and they do go back, don'tbe hard on them, because they'll
stop talking to you about ityou never want to to close that
line of communication, andthat's what I'm so thankful for.
I have the most incrediblefriends.
They'd pick me up, they'd seethings, they'd hear things and
they obviously hated it, butthey didn't ever put the hard
word on me because they knew Iwasn't going to leave and they

(24:38):
knew that I would just close up.
We discuss this all the time.
They knew and they weresupportive of me and if I ever
wanted, to go to their houses.

Chrystal (24:47):
I was.

Rose Oates (24:47):
The door is always open, always, and I knew that it
doesn't make it easier Having asafe space like within your
friendship group.
Oh my God, so important.
This all hits me in the feels,girlfriend.

Chrystal (25:00):
Let's get a little bit into maths.

Rose Oates (25:05):
We don't want to go too heavy into maths because I
feel like there is so much moreto Lauren than just maths.

Chrystal (25:09):
It's a fucking loop leader.
That's a good point, guys.
Like literally, like aftergetting to know you, we're like
meh Lauren's so much more thanmaths.

She is Like obviously it helps but you know
it's funny because, like, I heara lot of rumours and whatever
about myself and I'm like, yeah,cool, that rumour's great and
all, but if you knew the truthit's way worse.
Oh.

Rose Oates (25:26):
It's way wilder.

It's way worse.
Like I'm thankful that that'swhat you guys think happened,
because what actually happenedwas fucked up and like some of
the shit, I'm like, oh that'scute, that's a cute remark.

Chrystal (25:38):
Okay, fuck, drop some tea.

Rose Oates (25:40):
Well, excuse me, give us some exclusive.

Seriously like shit , mate.
Like I just like, even throughthe show, right, like you know,
there were situations where,like I would read articles and
it'd be, like you know, lauren'sfoul mouth rant edited out by
production.
I'm like it was fucking foul,like it was horrendous, but I
thought it was funny and, I'mnot going to lie, the person
that was a target to him didn'tthink it was so funny, but

(26:04):
everyone at the table was likethis, like laughing, like I had
Jaden Ridge next to me one nightat this like final dinner party
.
I was like going in on Jono andlike Jaden Ridge are just like
pissing themselves laughing.
And I was like, and I could seelike looking at me, was like
four, like yeah, and then likethe producers would pull me out
and they'd be like yeah, this isgreat and all that.

(26:25):
We obviously love this, but youcan't be Ed yeah, oh yeah,
that's my favorite word.

Rose Oates (26:29):
You can't call him a cunt.

I think they beeped out some of those c words
though yeah, but the thing iswith when you say the c word,
they have to blur your mouth andbeep oh like the word cunt is
so beautiful, and so they pullme out, sorry.
They're like I love your work,but like could you maybe call
him a dickhead?
I was like no, not good enough.

Chrystal (26:48):
And they're like look I don't know if it's either take
the booze away or like take youaway.
I was like you're not takingthe booze and they were just
like bang, bang, they cast itreally well, beautifully, there
was a few duds.

There was a few.
I was like I don't rememberseeing that person on there.
In terms of personality,honestly I've got to say overall
I loved everyone.
I really enjoyed everyone'scompany, got along with everyone
.
Obviously, as the dynamicsstart to grow and things start
to happen, you form likeloyalties with people.
Yeah, but I liked everyone.
It's like Survivor.

Chrystal (27:24):
Yeah, I love it.

I'd be so shit at that game I'd be really good
because I'd be like manipulativeand conniving, but I'd be
fitness-wise.
I'd be like, oh, that's me.
You'd be like running with it.
You're like there's no boozeyou wouldn't be able to drink.
There's no booze.

Chrystal (27:42):
I couldn't live on rations either.

No, you know when we did the retreat at Maserati
because normally, like duringthe day when you're filming, I
can like drink in my apartmentand stuff They'll come in there
and be like do you reckon youcould just like push the red
wine to the side because it's10.30 in the morning?

Chrystal (28:03):
I was like I feel like I'm in rehab, like this is
fucked up.
5 o'clock, though At least 12o'clock, for Christ's sake.

Like a little bino lunch.
We're all fucked up by the poolbecause we're on a holiday,
none of that.

Chrystal (28:12):
Oh, wow See, there's so much shit you wouldn't even
know was happening.

Rose Oates (28:15):
I'm surprised you waited this long to start having
a munch.

Chrystal (28:20):
Lauren is such a snacker.
I love feeding her.

Rose Oates (28:23):
It's good.

Chrystal (28:24):
A little bit of ASMR.
Yeah, that wasn't too crackly,Hold on, I'll give it to you.
So I mean, like, moving on frommaths, like obviously you don't
regret it, right, Like it wassomething that you did and you
know, some people probably belike I don't know if I regret
that, but a lot of people in myseason regret it.

I think what it is right.
If what is shown were thenegative parts of what happened
and you know in your mind youhad a lot of good parts you can
default to the edit it was aboutit.
And, yes, I understand.
I understand that.
However, those things didhappen.
Yeah, yeah, they did happen andI feel like it is our
responsibility now, in 2024,2023, at the time when we filmed

(29:16):
.
If you don't understand that,when you go on a reality show
like this is such a hugejuggernaut, that's all about the
drama.
If you have dickhead momentsand good moments, they're going
to show the dickhead moments.
Of course, they're not going toshow the good moments.
With me, right, I had a lot ofdickhead moments, but they were
funny, like I was able to makelight and make jokes, but I also

(29:42):
was kind of saying what theaudience was thinking.
Yeah, so some people lack theinsight and the foresight to
think well, they don't haveself-awareness, so they don't
understand how it's beingperceived to the people around
them.
So when they start to self-editor do things that they think
are going to look good on camera, it never works and it ends up

(30:04):
making you look worse becauseit's so obvious that you're
being fake.
The viewers aren't stupid.
So I think with me, I was lucky.
Like you got the good, the bad,the ugly, but it was very
consistent.
Yeah, I think I'm just too lazyto try and, like you know,
construct a different narrative.
That wasn't exactly what wasgoing on and I am lucky they cut
out a few moments here andthere and I'm sure Jono's not

(30:26):
happy about that because he wasa really nice guy to me.
But, like, too bad, so sad.
Don't sign up for maths.
Go on, the price is right.

Rose Oates (30:35):
Honestly, they had to have known with Larry Larry
Emder.
I don't even know if that showexists anymore does it no.
Larry is on a bender somewhere.
I love Larry Emder.
Larry is on the morning show.
He's still not Larry, is he?
Oh, yeah, no, larry, I loveLarry.
Oh, that's right, but honestly,like MAPS isn't the show Like

(30:59):
you know?
Come on when you know thatyou're either going to make it
or break it.

Most people don't even read it.
Like I had a full entertainmentlawyer look over it.
Like try and change all thesedifferent clauses.
Nothing changed, not one thing.
Wow, channel 9 are a beast.
Like you want to fuck with them.
I'm like I am.
I played by the rules, not allthe rules.
Like I would push the limitswith production in terms of like
when I wanted to go out andthings and all that kind of
stuff but like I didn't fuckaround, like I didn't do

(31:26):
interviews I wasn't meant to do,I didn't divulge show secrets,
I didn't talk about production.
I didn't do anything because Irespect what we signed.
We signed a big, comprehensivecontract and I read it and I
understood what the assignmentwas and you don't fuck with a
hand that could potentially feedyou.
That is right?

Chrystal (31:44):
Well, we did reach out to you and you were a very good
girl.
You were like look at themoment, I can't.
Maybe we'll chat in the future.

Manifestation guys.
Do you know what's funny?
I said the other day I was likeI didn't say the other day, I
can't remember what I said, Iwas like Best thing is for
shower dodgers and hippies.

Chrystal (32:03):
Sorry, I'm a hippie.

Rose Oates (32:04):
No, I believe in it now.
She believes now.
I believe in it.
I believe in it.
There is a hippie in me.
There's a spiritual bish.

Chrystal (32:08):
I mean look my mom's manifesting she's going to win
Lotto and I'm like I wouldn'treach that far, babe.

Rose Oates (32:13):
You'd be going to buy Lotto to win Lotto.

Chrystal (32:15):
It makes me laugh.
Good health and like goodwealth yeah, but you can't be
like I'm going to win lotto,yeah, like that's like the
secret.
Remember the secret, oh God Ifeel like you're sick in the
head.

Rose Oates (32:25):
I think you can manifest, but you still got to
work.
Yeah, absolutely For sure.

Chrystal (32:29):
Manifesting is just like creating positive thoughts,
yes, yeah, and like we are, ourthoughts rose and I are
bringing out a bumper stickerline next year.
No, I'm just we're gonna get?

we should do a merch line for the pod and it'll
be like guests, like iconic,like yeah another one.

Rose Oates (32:57):
That's a good idea, thank you.
Thank you so much so where tonow?

Okay, so since the show I've been very fortunate.
I've signed with an amazingmanagement company.
I've actually had a couple I'vechanged because, just like for
different reasons, they weren'ta right fit.
Yeah, but I have been workingwith some like amazing brands
that I never thought that Iwould ever work with.
So this is so cringe, because Iremember this article.

(33:24):
I think it was like a DailyMail article came out.
It was like Lauren signs acelebrity talent manager but
insists she's not an influencer.
Now I'm a full-time.

Chrystal (33:33):
There's nothing wrong with that.
What is it so what?
There is nothing wrong withthat.
Listen, if you can make money,baby, you do whatever you need
to do.

So I still have my business, but I don't currently
work on any active accounts.
So my business was food andhospo, like PR and marketing,
but now I do full-time contentcreation for brands.
Yeah, I do little tidbits.
I filmed a bunch of excitingstuff, like cooking stuff.
Yeah, we love it.

Chrystal (34:02):
Which you can see on.

Channel 10 in like a week.

Chrystal (34:05):
You heard it here.
I did see this for you, though.

It's just one episode, but it's, like you know
, the foot's in the door and nowthat my contract is coming to
an end with Channel 9, in termsof being able to work with
opposing networks, there'sopportunity there.
So the thing with um maths islike when we sign this contract,
we have like a non-compete forlike a year, yeah, but there's
also this good opportunities towork within the network.

(34:29):
So within channel nine and Ilove everyone at channel nine
like I just had the bestexperience, the best time, um,
and they've been really good tome, um, and now, like the
opportunities are starting toopen up and flow and I'm doing
like what every reality TV girldoes, like a podcast.

Rose Oates (34:47):
Yeah, oh, she's starting a podcast.

I'm excited.
I'm excited about it.
It's actually going to come outkind of at the same time as the
new season of Maths comes out,so it's like it's Early in the
jam In a jam.
So it's going to be about myjourney to love like yeah,
experts couldn't do it, so like,let's do it, and it's just like
it's going to be comedic, it'sgoing to be you it's going to be

(35:12):
funny, yeah I'm so excited tolisten.
The best team, I found the bestperson and like I, just I'm
really excited.
Yeah, um, but it's funnybecause, like I've been dating
someone recently and I had tosay, like you know, this is
what's happening.

Chrystal (35:28):
Well, you're going to have to talk about stuff right,
doing like adverts for like.

Hinge like dating apps, and I'm like about to like
start recording my own podcastwhich is like About dating,
about me dating.
So, but About dating, about medating.
But the thing is so I amactually moving to Sydney, oh,
wow, in the Jan, wow, okay, butI'll be coming back once a month
for you girls to do my hair.

Chrystal (35:49):
Yeah, oh yes girl, I will be doing the hairs.

The hairs will be deeply rooted.
Pardon the pun in here.
I mean, that's right, they'rethe queens, the hair queens.
Oh yes, but so I've told himthat I'm moving.

Chrystal (36:05):
So wait, he's a Perth boy.
He's a Perth boy.
Oh, are we doing long distance?
No, bum bum, I can't do longdistance.

Rose Oates (36:14):
I don't know why I have to ask this, but does he
have a beard?

No, oh, could you say her with a bearded man?
I had a bearded man, no.

Rose Oates (36:21):
I'm just maybe Rose is like he's got a moustache.
He's got a moustache, I think.
So what do you mean?
You think, wouldn't you feelthe moustache?
Oh my Lord, woman.

Surely you'd know the moustache.
Wait, which guy are we?

Rose Oates (36:34):
talking about Shit, shit, mate.

Trust, trust me, you should know if he's got a
moustache when he goes down onthe yeah, no I think Listen,
she's moving to Sydney.

Chrystal (36:45):
The fish in Sydney is probably a lot more bigger than,
but like I think the pond isbigger.

I think as well, dating in Perth is hard just
because, well, it's not hard,we've got a small pond.
No, the pond is all right.

Rose Oates (36:59):
The pond is okay.

But we don't have a big pond.
Actually I I talk so much Ihaven't dated in perth.
Really I met this guy.
I've been dating him.
I haven't gone on any otherdates with any other guys in
perth.
I've met people because I'vespent a lot of time in sydney,
met people in sydney, done allthat like I've had some fun,
that's for sure because I havebeen in long-term relationships
since I was like 17, so like Iactually am really enjoying
being single and the main reasonis like not having to answer to

(37:27):
anyone, so not having to belike oh babe, I'm going out for
dinner with the girls tonight.
Like what are your plans?
Or that sounds really fuckinginsignificant, but it's just not
.

Rose Oates (37:36):
Not answering to somebody else.

No, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
So, like my best friend Lucyshe lives in Sydney.
We literally like call, she'llgo to melbourne this weekend.
Yeah, let's go.
Yeah, just pick up and go here,let's go, like.
And then we've got we've got alot of friends with kids and
stuff and like and like I'mlucky, because the best of both
worlds love all their kids buttheir life is so like restricted
right now and I want that formy life someday.

(37:57):
But right now I'm like livingmy absolute best life, like I
don't spend more than two weeksin one place, which I love.
I can pretty much do whatever Iwant.
I can take whatever job I wantand.
I can fuck whoever I want.

Chrystal (38:10):
Whoa.

No, I can't do that .
Well, you can, girl, I can, Ican do whatever I want.

Rose Oates (38:15):
Well, that brings me to yeah.

Let's get into the juicy stuff.
Yes to the juicy stuff.

Rose Oates (38:19):
Yes, that brings me to.
Well, we know you're in arelationship.
No, what is it?
A situation?
A situation I'm dating Asituation, a situation, no.

Just so I say now there's like hooking up is level
one, okay, level one, okay.
Seeing, like hanging out,seeing, yeah, seeing is not
exclusive.
Two Dating a little bit moreserious, yeah, I would say, me
and him are like seeing is notdating Is dating exclusive Uh-uh
.

Rose Oates (38:46):
No.

So then you're dating, then you've got to have
the exclusive chat, and thenyou're exclusive, but you're
still not.
Yeah, but you're exclusivelydating then Yep, but then you're
still not boyfriend andgirlfriend.
Then you're boyfriend andgirlfriend.
Look this girlfriend andgirlfriend, then your boyfriend
and girlfriend.
This could just be the fuckedup vortex.

Chrystal (39:03):
Shit man.
If we were ever single again,we would be screwed because we
already went from single to in arelationship.
That's how it should be.
You know what I'm going to be.

Rose Oates (39:10):
I will be a single Pringle.
Like I said, if Craig diesthrough natural causes or myself
, I am done.
I'm not shaving my legs for him, I'm not shaving them for
someone else.
I am sorry.
I'm happy being single.
No, I'm the same way.
No, honestly.

Chrystal (39:30):
Having myself a zucchini every now and then, I'm
like the same.

Rose Oates (39:33):
Not a literal zucchini guys.
Well, maybe I don't know if Ifelt like it.
Whatever you're into, but ifyou do veggies, that's you no
judging.
But I you know whatever fruitand veg gets you off.
I am not a judger.

Chrystal (39:45):
It's not sanitary guys , you can get like some.

Rose Oates (39:49):
Hold on fruit and veg, Not about me.

Let me swallow my drink first.
Wait, I'll just tell you about.

Rose Oates (39:55):
I'll just tell you about a friend.
Wow, Wait who's this?

Chrystal (39:59):
This woman's going to know who I'm talking about.
Are you winking at me?
Oh no, hold on a sec.

Rose Oates (40:02):
I was like I haven't done any Frito-Munch.
Have you done a big pickle?
Have I done a pickle?
A big pickle In my vision, yeah, in your vision A pickle.

It's not big enough .

Rose Oates (40:20):
It'd be a bit spicy in there.
What Can't be healthy?

Chrystal (40:25):
No, but I've heard people getting like bacteria
stuff off veggies.
Yeah, that's not good.
Like they're sprayed so thatthey don't go off in
supermarkets and then you'reputting that up, yeah.

And I'm laughing.
I feel like this is my trackrecord Use protection with men
cover it and vegetables um,sorry, I'll tell you this story.
So when I was like young, I waslike in my early 20s, I was
living in this share house withmy boyfriend at the time and,
like his friend, who was alsolike one of my best friends and
his friend like hey, it was likea fucking road, like open door

(40:54):
routine.
I don't want to say rotisserie,but he was that going on too
okay, his mate and I loved him.
He's like hilarious.
He's always different, likedifferent girl, different night.
And one day I'm like in thekitchen.
The next day he like gets outof bed and I'm like slicing up
these cucumber bars I put on mysandwich and he's like Loz, no,
no, no, no, don't eat that.

(41:14):
And I was like why?
And he goes, because last nightput it up in a box and then she
put it back in the fridge.

Rose Oates (41:22):
Maintaining freshness.
Did she wash it at least?

I totally doubt it.
I was like what?
Imagine if you had eaten that Iwouldn't eat all these sluts in
my house.

Chrystal (41:33):
Oh my God, you would have eaten a vagina sandwich.

It was a tuna sandwich.
She was beautiful.

Chrystal (41:39):
You wouldn't have known any different.

Rose Oates (41:41):
Lauren would be like how did I get an STD?
I haven't been with anyone.
I ate a cucumber.
Yeah, literally.
Oh, get an STD from eating acucumber, can you from a vagina?
What if it's been on her vagina?

Chrystal (41:51):
I would say so, you could do.

Rose Oates (41:53):
You never know what came out Wild.

Chrystal (41:55):
That is dirty.
Wash your veggies before eatingthem.
I am not eating any vegetablesever again.
I've just got to say Maybe ifyou live by yourself now you can
trust it, but otherwise no.

Rose Oates (42:09):
Let's do a few red flag, green flags.

Okay, your number one red flag in a relationship
I've said this Someone thatdoesn't drink alcohol is very
concerning, because I know thatsounds awful, but my lifestyle
is very sociable.
I obviously like to have adrink, so like I need someone to
fit in.
Yeah, the other mass likeserious red flag is um someone
that displays any signs ofcontrolling behavior, like from

(42:32):
the very beginning.
So like I've had this withpeople like if you were my
girlfriend, I would be wantingyou to be posting like like um,
what is a bikini?
Yeah, um, like, like you saidyou had a question from um like
a, yes, I love this so we had aquestion box up um for questions
.

Rose Oates (42:52):
I wanted to ask Lauren and we've got.
I'm dating someone that wantsto know how many previous sexual
partners I've had.
Would you tell them them, andis it really that?

important.
Okay, so this is amulti-layered question, I feel
like.
So I feel like this day and agefor women, fuck no, why should
you have to say that, like,what's that got to do?

Chrystal (43:10):
with anything.

Asking a female, in particular sexual partners, is
literally just upholding thismisogynistic patriarchy of women
should only sleep with the guythat they're married to.
Like.
Think about the whole.
No sex before marriage, right,that is a notion put into play
by men so that they can do whatthey want, but when they get
their woman they don't have toworry that she's another dude.

(43:34):
This whole body count thing oflike women versus men is so
outdated so I feel like askingsomeone is opening up that
conversation Like why, why doesit matter?

Rose Oates (43:42):
Like, women are sluts and men are heroes Like
why is that a thing?
Yeah?
Why are they congratulated andwe?

ashamed.
And it's so funny because Iliterally like this could be a
toxic trait of mine.
But when I hear, like I'veobviously discussed it with
previous partners as you getinto the relationship for
whatever reason but I haven'tflat out just said I want to
know it's not like aprerequisite.
But when I found out they'reset with heaps of girls, I'm
like that's hot, like good foryou, like you obviously can get
down with it, like you're yeah,you're all like a ladies man,
like girls like you, and so likeI was like oh, that's great.

(44:11):
But then, as the relationshipgoes on, you're like cool, I
can't go anywhere that you'vebeen, you can't, I can't even go
to cold.
You set with a checkout chick.
Seriously, yeah, oh my Lord,seriously.
Yeah, the chick that came toclean our house fucking fucked
her.
Oh my Lord, everyone.
And it didn't matter eitherwhat they looked like, how old
they were.
Like that's, he's an equalopportunist, absolutely.
But I feel like nowadays, a guyasking a girl that they're

(44:34):
dating like why are you askingthat?
To me is controlling, yes, andit's displaying early on signs
of well, I have these certainbackwards views about women and
I don't want you like.
I also want to know who theyare like, why, like, why?
I don't think.
I don't think a guy should everask a girl how many partners
they've had ever.
And I know people are going tohear this and go well, you women

(44:56):
want equal rights, so what kindof guy asked if a girl's asking
it's like well, we didn't haveequal rights for a really
fucking long time?
So when we feel like we'resomewhat equal, you can ask us
those questions, but for now noyeah, and I don't think we're
there yet we are not there yet

Rose Oates (45:11):
we are so I mean, if you're, if the reason you're
asking is because you're worriedabout catching something.

Chrystal (45:16):
Ask them to go and do like an std check.
There's nothing, you don't needto worry.
You don't need to ask how manypeople you slept with.
Be like, do you mind going andjust doing an STD check?

Yes, and if that's the reason absolutely For both
parties.
I agree, it's fine when you'reentering into, like, an
exclusive situation.
If you're not exclusive forsomeone, hopefully you're using
protection, yeah, but whenyou're worried, go, and both do.

Rose Oates (45:45):
And it's easy to clear.
That's perfectly safe and also,does it fucking really matter?
No, if you love someone or ifyou really really like that
person, then they tell you I'veslept with 20 people.

Chrystal (45:58):
I don't like you anymore.
Yeah, no, lauren's like.
That's so hot.

Rose Oates (46:02):
But I was, oh, I don't like you anymore.
Yeah, not Lauren's.
Like that's so hot.
But I was like I'm just usingthat as a number, like, are you
going to like them any less?
Like, does that change them?

Chrystal (46:07):
I'm sure there are people out there that, yeah,
they just need a reality check.

I think it's come.
I think my biggest red flagover controlling is insecurity.
So I think it's coming from aplace of insecurity.
You can't fix an insecure manor an insecure woman.
So I feel like if you thinksomeone is insecure and it's
because of nothing that you'vedone to make them feel that way,
like they're entering that way.
That is my biggest red flag.

Rose Oates (46:29):
Yeah, that brings me to my green flag a secure man.

Oh, there's nothing sexier nothing hotter than a
secure man.
That's hot when you're.

Chrystal (46:37):
but also I feel like relationships do change because
even for me, like Davin and Inever used to have the chat
about anything If you don't wanthim, I'll have him.
Oh, you can't.
No, I actually do love him.
I've been with him for 20 years.
I actually do love him I likethis is where this recently has
come out.
So, after me losing almost 40kilos, there's a little bit of
insecurities happening on hispart, on his part.

(46:59):
So I think, and I do think itis normal, I think it 100% is
normal he's seeing now men, youknow, looking at me making
comments.
Family members that are men aregoing, you look amazing.

Rose Oates (47:11):
I think that's different.
Again, though, You've beentogether 20 years and he loves
you so much that he just doesn't.
He feels like he's lost a partof him.
You know he's like oh, peopleare looking, that's my girl.

Chrystal (47:23):
Yeah, and.

Rose Oates (47:23):
I like a little bit of that jealousy.

I like that too.
I like a little.

Rose Oates (47:26):
I don't think it's insecurity.
I think I like a little like asafe bit of jealousy.
What's the fuck?

Chrystal (47:31):
Yeah, I don't mind if you throw me on the bed and be
rough with me.

Yeah, I like that too, that creates oh, give me
this piece, give me this pieceof salami, I'm gonna I get
jealous like get some meat inyour mouth.
I get jealous.
I think they need to be.
There needs to be an elementlike I don't know if this is a
toxic thing to say, but I'mfucking toxic.
So whatever, I feel like thereneeds to be like an element of
you know a little bit of likehealthy jealousy is that even a

(47:56):
thing?

Chrystal (47:57):
yeah, I, I get healthy jealousy over you.
It's like oh my God, I love youso much.
She's doing so good.
I also want that, but I alsolove you.

Rose Oates (48:07):
That gave me a tickle in my pants.

Chrystal (48:10):
We had somebody ask us recently they were like you and
Rose are so close Like do youguys have sexual chemistry?

Rose Oates (48:15):
I was like we probably do.
I mean, if something happened,if I was actually that way in
mind and there was no David, goCraig.

Chrystal (48:21):
She has said that she would do dirty deeds on me if
she had to.

If I had to, would you guys do that?

Chrystal (48:26):
No, she's like if she had, to Like if I wasn't getting
it, and also she was like I'lldo a fix for you, Do you?

Rose Oates (48:32):
want just anyone to do it, or I'll get there, I'll
go down and I would hire aprostitute.

Chrystal (48:38):
I reckon't know.

Rose Oates (48:39):
I think it's legal.

Chrystal (48:41):
I think it's legal, but you just can't talk about it
.
I don't know.
It's like it's everything beinglegal.
You're not going to go to jailfor it.
No, come on.

Rose Oates (48:47):
Yeah, but I think there's a healthy amount of
jealousy in a relationshipthat's over, for sure.
I do want him to want me more.
Yeah, is that?

it, they're going to love you a little bit more.
The man needs to want the womanmore for it to work.
Do you know what's funny Likewith the jealousy thing?
My ex used to like deliberatelydo things to make me jealous
because he wanted to know that Istill loved him.
He was like so when you reactlike that, I know that you still
love me.
You still love me, otherwiseyou wouldn't act like that.

Rose Oates (49:17):
And I'm like why would you do that to me?
Yeah, find balance.
No, that's.
That is like emotional abuse.

It's like he would do it constantly and then like,
like, follow different girls onInstagram that I knew he'd slept
with and I was uncomfortablethat he was still in contact
with, and like, like, collecttheir photos to get a reaction
so you would bring it up.
Yeah, and he was like, well,that was, he was so insecure
that he that was his way of like.
Knowing that I still loved himwas when I would react to things

(49:42):
like that.

Chrystal (49:43):
So we've done the red flags.
What are?

some green flags in a relationship or in a person,
sorry.
Well, my biggest green flag issomeone that can make me laugh,
that like doesn't takethemselves too seriously, can
laugh at themselves.
We could date.
Yeah, we could date.
I love that.
If I like pussy, I would date.
You See, I feel the same, butlike a guy that is ambitious,
someone that's driven, like itdoesn't matter what you do as

(50:10):
long as you're passionate aboutit, and like you're always
trying to grow and achievethings.
It's such a green flag for me.
Someone that just kind offloats through life is like
that's fine for you to be happy,but not for me.

Rose Oates (50:21):
Yeah, I through life is like that's fine for you to
be happy, but not for me.
I need someone that can justtheir passion about their thing.
It doesn't rely on you either.

Also a man that either doesn't have social media
or barely uses social media.

Chrystal (50:35):
That's my husband.

Rose Oates (50:38):
Did you?

Chrystal (50:38):
see our little thing.
Yesterday On your post I wroteyou can jingle my bells.
And then he said hold on nextin line or something.
And I said can't we share On aphoto of her?
I didn't even see it.
So when I see Craig writesomething I'm like oh yeah, I'm
going to write back to that.

Rose Oates (50:55):
Oh, my God, my wife and my husband.

Chrystal (50:57):
Exactly.

Rose Oates (50:57):
At the same time.

Chrystal (50:59):
My green flag.
Well, we weren't asking mine,but I'm just going to put it out
there.
Mine is like, for me, like whensomebody fully, 100% supports
you, because I'm a fuckingnutcase, like I jump from one
thing to the next thing, to thenext thing, and Davin has never
said to me no, yeah, yes.
Like I feel like all therelationships I talk to men are

(51:19):
saying no, I don't really wantyou to do that.
All the relationships I talk tomen are saying no, I don't
really want you to do that, likethat's going to cost money or
that's going to cost time, don'tyou do?

that Take you away from the kids and the home.

Chrystal (51:26):
Yeah, we're like.
I literally was like I'm goingto open this hair salon and I'm
not a hairdresser Okay, I'mgoing to go and do an
apprenticeship.

Okay, you need my hairdresser.

Chrystal (51:33):
No, no, I need my apprenticeship.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I'm going to do a podcast.
Okay, do you know what I mean?
Like I've never really had himsay no to me and I feel like
that's really sexy.
I do too, that is so cool, butalso maybe I'm a little bit of a
brat.

I'm like don brat.
Yeah, you guys balance eachother out so well.
We do like he's a good calmingforce, but I can also see like
he's authoritative as well.

Chrystal (52:01):
Yes, he does bring me down when, like, I'm being too
mental yeah, yeah, I love that.

I really that's what my first serious boyfriend
was like.
I was straight like just allover the shop and he was always
very like, calm and if I get tooout of pocket.
He'd be like he'd pull me up.

Rose Oates (52:16):
Yeah, that's Craig with me.
He's like never says no, wedon't have huge amounts of
arguments, but when he does likego oh, nah, not that I'm like,
oh, he must have actually.

He's had a thought about that he's actually thought
about it seriously, he means itOkay, it seriously means it.

Rose Oates (52:37):
Okay.
Let's get into some femalefriendships like this is a
question that I think me andcrystal get so much like um
personally on our socials andthen even within the pod,
because I feel like femalerelationships are just as hard
on your and and amazing as beingwith like a sexual romantic
partner.
Now, since you've been on theshow has oh sorry, my leg.

(52:59):
Since you oh, just a bit of asome bugs coming up.
Did any of your relationships?
Were they affected like,especially like your close
female friendships orfriendships you thought would
never falter?

No, actually I was really lucky, like my closest
friends were all at the weddingand they were very much along
for the ride with me.
They were the ones getting thecalls every night with like with
all the details, and they werethe ones that kind of encouraged
me to do the show.
Um, I feel like I got really,really lucky.
I've got amazing friends,although the one thing I did

(53:33):
notice is people coming out ofthe woodwork that kind of didn't
really talk to me or have timefor me after school.

Chrystal (53:41):
And then they're like, hey, she's been on TV, I'm
going to reach out and all of asudden it's the oh amazing Lily.

So I'm like you wouldn't have even acknowledged
me For whatever reason.
I'm sure people have theirreasons, but I don't like that.
I don't like when I feel likepeople are making a big effort
with me, to see me, and thatthey all of a sudden are like
desperate to catch up with mewhen we didn't really have a
huge friendship.

Chrystal (54:06):
It's in genuine.

Yeah, and I feel like you know there are some
friends like I've got a reallybeautiful friend that I went to
high school with, that we kindof never like were super, super
close, that we have stayed intouch over the years.
My name's Sarah.
Hi, sarah, she's been likeshe's just the loveliest girl.
We've always kind of haddialogue going and I've stayed
in contact with her and she'sbeen a great like one of those
friends that you don't see allthe time but like you know there

(54:29):
, but on the flip side of her,I've had friends like that that
are like desperate to catch upwith you and like constantly
messaging If you don't reply,like why aren't you replying?
And I'm like look, I don't evenhave time to see my family when
I'm in Perth so this, all of asudden, desperate need to like
be my best friend is comingacross and giving like, just

(54:50):
it's cringy, it's giving you theick, it's giving you the ick,
it's giving me the ick and it'sjust leaving you about to taste
it and do you know what theworst part is?

Chrystal (54:54):
You probably catch up with them and the whole time
they'd be putting it on socialmedia, which is gross to me,
like I can't stand it.
And the thing is with me havinga bestie that's actually a
little bit in the public eye inPerth fuck off, people recognise
you all the time I get a selfie.
I'm like no, you fucking can't.

(55:14):
I'm like she's having a photowith me.

I didn't realize how good your Instagram was.
I follow you on like I've gotthe hair account yeah.

Chrystal (55:22):
I get awkward, don't I ?
She gets awkward, but look likea lot of people follow Rose.
She does get recognized out inpublic.
If we're at an event,everybody's asking I don't mind.
Like I understand, people loveher.
Like, yes she, I love you, I'min love with you.
But like when it's ingenuine,it's icky to me.
Yeah, I can't stand it, I agree.
And when they're saying whatare they saying what?

(55:45):
What are you looking at me likethat for my best friend I'm
like you've had twoconversations.
The whole fucking year is awhole fucking year.
She's not your best mate.
Yeah, I don't like that.
That would shit me.
It shits me.
She's like she just has agiggle, but I find it fucking
annoying.

Rose Oates (56:00):
Yes, she does.
She's my hype gal.

I feel like female friendships are the most
important things in our lives,yes, and so when they break down
, it's the most tragic.
I had a really close friendshe's my best friend all through
high school and then we had abreakdown in the French.
I didn't really understand whyat the time I felt like I was
kind of just cut off.
Found out later down the line.
She kind of rang me andexplained some things that

(56:23):
wasn't really anything to dowith me.
It's kind of what she was goingthrough.
But when she kind of started toice me out and then she moved
to another country and I didn'teven know else, I was
heartbroken like the worstheartbreak I've ever had.
I still dream about, like Ihave these reoccurring dreams.
This is a fun fact about me Iremember all my dreams.
I remember all of them since Iwas a little kid.

(56:43):
Wow, so she's not spiritual.

Rose Oates (56:45):
well, no no, maybe, maybe the hippie's coming out
maybe.

But, um, I have this like reoccurring dream with
her about her like notacknowledging me or like not
wanting to be my friend or likein some capacity, it kind of
like evolves each night intolike something different and it
really, really hurt me and Ireally struggled with that for a
really long time.
And I think, because our femalefriendships, we choose our
friends and there's so manylayers to it, like our parents,

(57:11):
right, like we have a certainrelationship with our parents,
certainly with our kids,certainly with our partners.
But our friends we have likeall these different levels.
They know everything about ourparents, they know everything
about our partners.
A lot of us don't tell ourparents everything about our
partners for certain reasons andvice versa.
But with our female friends,they know everything about
everything.
They know every aspect of you.

(57:31):
They don't judge you.
Like you know, sometimes wedon't tell our partners certain
things because we don't wantthem to either be upset or be
jealous.

Chrystal (57:37):
Tell Rose everything.

Don't want you to know that we bought that Chanel
bag or whatever the reason is,but with our friends they are
like so deeply entrenched inevery inch of our lives it hurts
more than an actual breakup.

Rose Oates (57:48):
I agree it really hurts.

Chrystal (57:50):
You're never allowed to move to another country or
break up with me.

Rose Oates (57:52):
I know She'd actually just stalk me and I
love that She'd follow you.
I'd actually just take you.

Chrystal (57:56):
Yeah.

Rose Oates (57:57):
But it's like Craig asked me about a certain event
with a cake and he was like doesCrystal know?

Chrystal (58:02):
And I was like yeah, I know the colour of the icing.
I know where the icing was.
I know how the icing got out.

That's why, as well , like I feel like I've got a
couple of friends, like one ofmy best friends, she's got a
partner.

Chrystal (58:15):
That it's no secret I don't like, and, um, she doesn't
like him either, to be honest,but um, she, he knows that I
know everything, like he can'ttake a shit without him already
knowing that I know that he'staking a shit, yeah.
Third, wheel.

He doesn't like it and so, like I died, not allowed
at their house oh, fuck off.

Chrystal (58:34):
I did have this thing recently with Davin.
He was like do you tell Roseeverything?
And I was like I pretty much do.
And he's like is there someparts that like we can keep to
ourselves?
And I was like you need to letme know which ones.
I can't tell her.
I just don't know.
Before you start talking, tellme, can you not tell Rose this,
because 100% I'm going to tellher the next day.

Rose Oates (58:53):
I know, it just comes out.
I can't help myself.
If I can't tell her, who can Itell?

And I feel like our partners get awkward around our
best friends because they knowthat they know everything.

Rose Oates (59:05):
Craig just walks in and is like there's my other
wife apparently.

Yeah actually I'm like that with my cousin.
She's like my sister and herhusband.

Chrystal (59:12):
I'm like you're my husband now is this the one on
the farm thing?
Oh, I laughed my head off theother day because you were like
you can marry me.
Oh, wait a minute.

Oh no, you're married to my cousin I wrote him
his 45th card and I was like tomy husband he's like, why fuck?
I didn't know I had two wives.
He was like.
I was like, well, you shouldknow, you have like I put my
finger up your ass, so youshould know.
Imagine in a non-sexual.
Oh Lord I was going to say.
I was like, actually, and mycousin's the best she's like,

(59:38):
standing there encouraging it,Like she fucking loves it.

Rose Oates (59:41):
Yeah, that would be us.

But we're just like super, super close and like he
just doesn't have a choice.

Chrystal (59:46):
Yeah.

Rose Oates (59:56):
I love that, so isolating it is and if you feel
like people are toxic in yourlife, cut them off it.
Honestly, it hurts and I knowhow much it hurts.
It's recently happened with me.
Yeah, it fucking hurts so bad,but you have to cut them off
because it's self-limiting yeah,I'll see the reason or the
defining moment, or you don'twant to.
You know, it's the straw thatyou know how some things are the

(01:00:16):
straw that broke the camel'sback.
It's just like the last thingthat has happened to you that
you're like you know what.
I've had enough, that's enough,and I can't do it anymore.
I'm one of those people thatwill walk away and you'll never
know why.
So if I'm screaming, yelling,being psycho, having a full-on,
you love them I actually stilllove you.
Yeah, I care about you, I.
But if I go silence, radiosilence, I'm it was like us last

(01:00:40):
year.

Chrystal (01:00:40):
You were like did this , do you?
Did you do this?
Don't lie to my fucking face.
If you did do it, I'll, I'llfucking bury the body with you.
That's what I said.
But I need you to not lie to me.
And I was like I fucking loveyou because I'll call her out.

Rose Oates (01:00:51):
But with this particular um situation, I
recently had a surgery.
I recently had bowel surgery,and then like I share a lot on
Insta but I don't share likein-depth shit.
It's like 15 seconds If youthink about it, like four clips
is a minute.
You would feel this as well.
And they've made a judgment offthat, after I've had surgery,
about my health and what I wasdoing, if I was drinking, if I

(01:01:13):
was eating and la-la-la-la, notchecked in on me like everybody
else and people that barely knewme had checked in on me.
I'm not a needy person at all.
I'm not a needy friend.
I've got fucking four kids anda stepson.
I have shit going on, but inthis situation, I thought it was
really important to be checkedin on and I felt like this was
really impacting my life and Ireally struggled through the

(01:01:36):
like, the rehabilitation andeverything that went with it,
and you weren't there, yeah, andthen you heard that I've heard
things and I was like oh, I feelreally hurt because it was such
a long-term friendship.

Yeah, do you know what I think, though, with female
friendships they either growwith you or they don't.
Yeah, and I think for you, like, like you have grown, like even
just in the five years I'veknown you, you have grown so
much, and some people aren'tjust willing to be your
cheerleader, they want to justbe like nah, I'm not going to
cheer you on.
Yeah, it's just shit to me.

Lauren Dunn (01:02:08):
Women who compete with each other is something
I've noticed, especially beforewhen I was working in PR
marketing, especially in Perth.
Yeah, I've got another friendcalled Taylor James and she's a
very successful PR girl in Perthand we like worked on a bunch
of clients together when we werea little bit younger I say
younger, that's like a few yearsago but, like you know, we're

(01:02:28):
always like bringing each otherup and helping each other and
like really champing each otheron.
But I've noticed some otherwomen in the industry that are
not like that and like it's alllike competitive and cutting and
I'm like there's enough food atthe table for everyone.
Yeah, thank you.
And the more we come togetherand achieve things together, the
more money we can make, whichis more fucking food and booze

(01:02:51):
or whatever else we're going toput on the table.
There's enough room for everyone.
A for whatever else we want toput on the table.
There's enough room foreveryone, 100%.
So I hate this notion of womenbeing competitive with one
another.
I just absolutely hate it.
And it's also something that wesee a lot in the media the
media, which I don't know if theage or question is media or
reflection of society, societyor reflection of the media.
However, we see a lot in thetabloids and stuff people thrive

(01:03:14):
on female drama See Lohanversus Paris.
That was tabloid fodder foryears.
We want to hear about BlakeLively feuding with a female
co-star on the new movie.
We want to hear about HillaryClinton versus Monica Lewinsky.
We want to hear all thesethings.

Yeah, that's so true.
I never thought about it likethat.

People really feed in and the more things you see
in the press, they're printingit more because they're getting
more views.
It means it's what we want tolisten to.
I mean, look at Desperate.

Housewives.

That's right.
Yeah, but there was this quotethat I read and I loved it.
Was it by me?
Like, let me know if it was you, because we're going to start
our T-shirt line.
I'm so keen for this T-shirtline.
It was something like justbecause I don't want you to sit

(01:04:04):
and eat at my table doesn't meanI don't want you to eat.
Yeah, so go and eat somewhereelse.
I don't want to see you likenot thrive in life.
Yes, but I don't want youfucking at my table.
You don't need to be with meyou can be thriving to the side.
Yes, and I mean that, even withthe like, friendships that like
are no good for you anymore.
I wish them well.

(01:04:24):
I genuinely do.
I love all the years that wespent together, but no longer I
want you to eat at my table andthere's nothing wrong with that,
right Like.

I had a conversation yesterday with the
guy that I'm dating and I saidto him are we dating?
Are we seeing each?

other.
Hold on.
What was the three-step now?

Spectrum.
We are on the spectrum.
There's no doubt about that.
But anyway, no, we actually are.
We are all on the spectrum.
We are spicy.
We are spicy.
But, um, I said to him I waslike, well, relationships with
everyone, because we're talkingabout me moving and whatever.
I was like you're with peoplebecause you're using them,
you're getting something out ofit.
He goes I don't like that worduse.
I'm like no one likes that worduse.
But take the word use out right, relationships are

(01:05:07):
transactional because you'regetting something out of it and
that sounds bad to say.
Let me like explain what I mean.
Um, relationship with your kids.
You get their unconditionallove and they get your
unconditional love.
You get that from each other.
That's what you give to eachother.
You obviously give them ashitload of stuff and those
little fucking greedy fuckerscan give you right now, yeah,

(01:05:29):
but yes you know what I mean.
If you get back, you get back.
So the kids are at the very low, because that's just
unconditional either way.
Then you go to family members.
Family members you're gettinglove and support and kindness.
But if you don't get that thinkabout how people are estranged
from their family members youcut them off.
So again, you're gettingsomething.
And if you're not gettingsomething out of it, in terms of
whether it's love, it's support, it's help, it's someone to go

(01:05:52):
out with on the weekend becauseyou're sad, or whatever the fuck
it may be, and then, when youget down to friendships, they're
the most fickle versions ofthat, because we get to choose
our friends.
Yes, we don't get to choose whatkid comes out with us or who
our family members are.
You never cut your kids off.
So that's where it starts.
You can start cutting offfamily members if it's not
healthy for you, but friendshipsis where it's the most fickle.

(01:06:17):
So we choose our friends basedon what we can get out of it in
terms of what we like about them.
That's true, getting out of itdoesn't mean I'm going to be
friends with you because you'regoing to get me invited to that
party.

I mean it's handy.

That would be handy If you can get me invited to
Leonardo DiCaprio's fuckinghouse.

I'm just the fucking plus one for everything.
Why are we on a yacht?

People that fill your cup and make you happy.
If that ends up being morenegative than positive, it hurts
, and the longer you've beenfriends with them it's going to
be worse, but we can cut thatoff.
And as we get older and wemature, we learn that we need to
, especially when you've gothusbands and kids.
You don't have the capacity fora friend, a chosen person in

(01:06:55):
your life.
That's going to bring younegativity.

Yeah, I think that's why we're getting to the point
of, like, we're both 40 nextyear and we're just like you
know what.
We're not dealing with thisanymore.

No, I think you do get to certain like age points
where you start going.
What do I want for the nextstage in my life?
What is important to me, movingforward and who's bringing?

the who's growing with me and helping me achieve.

But I feel like it needs to be like this yes, not
like this no, I want to see youfucking win every step of the
way.
Like it means a lot to me tosee her win.

Like.
But even yesterday you weretelling me something about
Instagram stats or whatever, andI'm not, I don't really know
much, and she's like shit, thatsounds so cocky and I was like
that fucking doesn't To me.
I'm going oh my bitch, I know.
And when I'm at your business.

I feel like I'm like we like it's my business, it's
not my fucking business.
That's what she says atmeetings.
She'm like oh yeah, I mean you,but I don't give a fuck.
But I'm like you know, becausewhen you're fucking a million,
you want someone that's investedin your business.

But that's why I love that's when you know you've
got a real, really goodfriendship right.
I know my friends, my truefriends, my fair weather friends
.
I can message them and be like,oh my God, look at this,
whether it's amount of money aclient offered me for something.

(01:08:19):
I mean I don't tell most people, we don't, most of our friends
don't talk about money, but Imight miss something like, oh my
god, this brand offered me thisamount of money and I'm like,
oh my god, good for you.
Amazing the people that I feellike I maybe I shouldn't tell
because they would either bejealous or upset yeah for
example, sarah, that I messagedher and I was like, oh my god,
channel nine put me forward forthis.
And she was like, oh my god,congratulations, amazing, like
happy for me, yes, and viceversa.
But if you've got someone inyour life that you feel you
could say that and it might, itmight make them feel a certain

(01:08:41):
type of way they're not theright person to be.
Yeah, and that that brings meto a question I actually got
from a girl in my question box.
She said to me what did she sayto me?
No, I don't remember.
So she said to me um, like howdo you deal with film our
friendships and like thebreakdown of a friendship?
She said that a long-term closefriend of hers cut her off for
something really menial and shetold me what it was and it was

(01:09:02):
something ridiculous.
I just said to her I was like Iknow this is going to sound
brutal, but I don't know how oldshe was.
This girl looked quite young.
So younger is harder, becausenow, when we're older, we've all
got a lot of other shit goingon.
When you're younger, yourfriends are your whole life, yes
, um.
So I just said to her like, ifsomeone is willing to cut you
off for something so triviallike just accept it for what it

(01:09:23):
is and move on, because that isso toxic.
And imagine you get to.
You know our stage in life.
You guys have got kids,husbands, me, when I was going
through all my shit.
I need friends that are likeactually my hardcore friends,
because life gets really seriousand when someone's cutting you
off or something like that,imagine if they were the friend
that you had relied on for whenyou went through something like

(01:09:45):
what I've been through or whatyou've been through, or what
you've been through.
You can't and they turned aroundand they went there for you and
you didn't have another friendlike that.
That was your person, right?
How tragic would that be?
I feel like when we're youngerwe really hang on to these
friendships because we feel like, oh my god, I don't have
anything else, but yeah it'sjust like when someone shows you
who they are.
Believe them, oh yeah that'sanother bumper sticker thank you

(01:10:07):
.

Uh, that was quote three, just saying okay, we did
get a few questions from thequestion boxes.
Yes, love a question box.
So first up, most embarrassingsex moment, oh my God.
And the reason she asked isshe's like I've had a couple and
I just want to feel better.

Okay, I've got the most fucked up one, and everyone
knows I actually can't say onthis podcast.
I will tell you two.
Okay, Tell her to DM me, I'lltell her Okay, all right, tell
one that's slightly less fuckedup.

Then what else have we got?

We've got your ideal date.
Oh no, I've got a funny one.
Okay, okay, we'll go back.
How vulgar can we be?
You can be so vulgar.

We're pretty vulgar Look.
I told Rose that my dogs lickmy toes while I'm having sex and
I'm nearly vomited so that'spretty gross, because I hate
feet.

This is not as bad as this.

Okay.

Okay, that's fine.

No, mine's worse.
No, yours is like PJ.
That's disgusting.
But it's disgusting because ohmy God, this is going to be so
bad, like oh, anyway, whatever.
So I was having sex recentlyand he went to like hold my face

(01:11:17):
, eyelashes right.
Oh no, I like tipped my eyesback.
I tipped my eyes back to likedon't my eyes just, and it like
like went up my nose oh, that'sokay, rose has done worse I've
done way worse than that, yeah,I have.

Oh, when I nearly died and I was like, I felt like
a sinus infection from like,how do you go to the doctor and
say this is not conjunctivitis,it's actually coming from the
eye?

Yeah, oh, my lord, but I love that the eyelashes came
first.

No, the eyelashes always come first.
She was like no.
I was like no, not theeyelashes.
Just let me get something yeahliterally, but I feel like I
shouldn't like to talk about.

He's got a new partner .

He's with Ellie from the show.

Yeah, they bought a house together.
Oh okay, I thought you weresaying new like oh okay, no, no,
no, they're not.
Family love.

Well, he had some like interesting sex, right?
Yes, he had good sex, he wasreally good.
I don't know if this is soinappropriate, but I had him.
We were having sex in theshower and I was like he was
like holding my neck from likebehind.
Yes, like I like that stuff.

Yeah.

And he's into it and he's, and he was like
holding me like this and I waslike leaning forward and like
obviously, like the pressure onmy neck was like too much and I
completely Passed out,completely out of control, and
he was like fuck.
And he's like picked me up.
How do I tell people?
And I'm like, I'm like I don'tknow You're unconscious.
I don't know how I got justlike one second, yeah, and then
we just kept going.

Oh my God, Shit.
I would have been bloodycalling 911.
I was 2-0.

The poor bastard.
No, he was fine.

I think we were both into it Just be, safe, be
safe, be safe but he's like army, trained like he knew what he
was doing, right, okay, good foryou, ellie.

Next question Next question Ideal date and partner.

Ideal date Ideal date.
Okay, so I've been on thedating apps recently because
I've been like experimentingwith Hinge that little thing
right there for Hinge.

Also good content for your upcoming podcast.

Yes, great good content for your upcoming
podcast.
Right, I've researched babesresearch.
So I was on hinge and um, whatI hate this again is gonna make
me sound like so bad, but it'strue, guys, in their bio they're
like long way along.
Wake up in the morning I canfeel like around the beach and
the coffee.
I'm like, oh, what the fuck?
No, this guy was like, oh, doyou want to go get a coffee and
a walk?
And I was like absolutely not.
And he was like, oh, what doyou do?
I was like, well, let's, do youwant to go get a coffee and a
walk?
And I was like absolutely not.
And he was like, oh, what areyou going to do?
I was like, well, let's go havea drink, because I don't want

(01:13:38):
to go and spend my very valuabletime.

It's very limited with a stranger yeah.

If I've got any time, I want to be with my
friends and my family.
But if I'm going to go meet astranger and risk it being shit,
which I have, a cocktail inhand.

Well, you can run and eat some yummy food.
Well, too.

Yeah, exactly.
So like yeah, if I want toleave, I can leave and you get
something out of it.
Exactly so.
Our ideal date is literallyjust like catch up for a drink
and some like tapas.

Yeah.

It doesn't need to be like a serious dinner, and
what was the other part of it Ifyou had to choose an ideal
partner?

I have an inclination for like sports
people, and do you know what itis for athletes?
It's not just because, likethey're hot, that has something
to do with it.
Come on, that's what I've gotthere, obviously.
But the thing about a sportsperson or an athlete is it's
like their ambition and theirdrive and their like
determination and like like Ilove seeing someone like out on

(01:14:37):
that field, like just gettinggetting shit done like and it's
the, it's like the, it's likethe discipline with, like
perfecting their craft, like somy dad was a um, it's creepy, I
should take that to my dad, butmy dad was a soccer player,
professional soccer player.
I played for soccer olympicswhole shazam.
My mom and he and me together,since we were like really,

(01:14:57):
really young and my mum livedthat life Like we travelled.
They travelled all over theworld for his play and she was
like you know, life was hardbecause he was always training
or playing, but like it's funnybecause you see a lot of women
that like, have been with sportsor their kids end up that way.
So, like now I've my last tworelationships have both been
people who play sport.

(01:15:18):
Yeah, and I'm just so into it.

But don't they say you kind of marry someone who's
like your dad?
Yeah, they do say that.

My dad's like the unicorn though.

I'm never going to fight someone.
It's weird, though, because mybest friend's like my dad, I
love you.
She's like him 2.0.
It's weird.

And that's like I know I'm not spiritual, but
maybe I am no 100% it'sspiritual.

I feel like Rose.
I met Rose before my dad died,but we weren't as close then and
then after his death, she wasalready in my friendship circle
after his death.
But after that I was like holyshit.

She was like given to me because she's not
replacing a part of my dad thatI miss now, but 100, there's
bits out.
I'm like, oh shit, she doesthings like yeah, I do think
there's it's weird.
Like yeah, it's, it's actuallycreepily weird.
Like even the way like hewanted his ashes spreaded over
the ocean.
I'm like that's me.

I was like you're both , both Pisces, we're both
outlandish and wild and likelove, life and music and it's
weird that's so weird.

There's something that's funny you guys are
talking about, because I sawsomething on Instagram the other
day and it was like this clipfrom a movie with Morgan Freeman
.
I can't remember what the moviewas, but do you know what it
was?

Yeah, I think.
Did you share it?
No, I didn't share it.
I saw it.
Somebody shared it to me and itwas like talking about I know
which one.

Yes, so I don't believe in God.
But if you're spiritual, it'slike whatever spiritual power
you believe in.
So when you say you pray andyou say I'm asking for courage,
he's not just going to go zazamand like you're courageous, he's
going to give you a situationwhere you become courageous.
I want to be confident.
He's going to give you a way tobe confident.
I want to be brave.

He gives you the opportunity to be confident.
I want to be brave.

He gives you the opportunity to show that I want
wealth.
It's going to give you theopportunity to create wealth
Fucking.

Lauren is laying some bombs down.

today I saw this as well, though I saw it.
Somebody shared it to me.
Maybe somebody shared it to me,Can't remember, but yeah, it
was a really good one.

I really enjoyed that because like again, that,
because like I again like I'm ahardcore atheist for multitude
of reasons.

However, I still believe in something I don't
know maybe the power of theuniverse is something.

Yeah, I believe in something too like I'm not.

I'm not so stupid and narrow-minded and egocentric
and all the rest of it, tobelieve that that it's just
humans that are going on like Ifeel like there's obviously
something else.
I mean, that's a wholedifferent.
I can get my full tinfoil.

Listen, I'm still like is the earth flat?

Oh my God, my best, one of my best friends, gemma.
I'm going to go Gemma.
Gemma said it.
I'm leaving Gemma Oldfield shecan't stand this, she said it to
me behind it.
I just feel like, how is itround?
Shit, she thinks that's her.
I mean, we've flown over it afew times, have you not seen it?

(01:18:00):
Yeah, I still feel like itlooks flat.

I can't keep.
I look out the window.
Someone pull me a shimmy.

To another episode of Is the World Flat?

We'll get like a scientist person on.

Yeah, I mean I would get put in a grave because they
would know all the facts.
Go at me with it.
Go at Lauren.
Sorry, with the next question Ican have a person there with a
full round table debate.

Oh Lord, That'd be fun.

All right, any plastic surgery, no hate, just
curious.

I get this question all the time.
I've never had plastic surgery.
I've had Botox and fillers.
Obviously I fucking love thatshit.

The titties are real man.
I've seen the titties in reallife.

The titties are real.
They're real Bitch.
One thing I hear all the timeis the cat eye surgery.
Okay, I'm like thank you,that's a compliment, because I
have these round beady littleeyes and there's definitely no
cat eye going on.
Sometimes I get like Botoxgoing around that when I left

(01:18:55):
the show to get my surgery formy blood clots, you can still
see.

Oh yeah, I remember people saying something yeah,
I've got fake tan around my head.

I see all the blue veins.
That's from that.
There's still very much there.
They were like oh, she'sleaving the show to go get
plastic surgery, like and not berecovered in four days, like
you morons.
Like there's all these, like Ididn't realise that Reddit is a
thing.
I knew that Reddit's a thing,but the threads in Reddit, yeah,
there's something funny, alittle too bit about that.

(01:19:24):
My ex, like when he was tryingto kind of get back with me and
was like oh, you know, I've goneReddit and like the things
people say about you.
He's like I go in the forumsand I defend you and I was like
there's so much irony here Idon't even know where to begin.

But thank you, you're like, you're not my knight on a
white horse.

He would send me like crazy shit that people were
saying and I defended you andI'm like why are you sending me
this?
I don't want to know this.
But like, yeah, the plasticsurgery thing.
No, I've never had plasticsurgery.
I'm keen though.

Yeah, I've seen the titties in real life.
They're delicious andnutritious, Like honestly.
Delicious and nutritious.
I love that.
So, yeah, I think also, oh, akid's on the cards one day, and
a little bit a few have askedabout it, and then you have gone
through egg freezing journey,or are you going through it.

So when my ex and I , like that whole thing came to
an end, I was like, all right,I'm going to go and look into
freezing my eggs because I'm 33,so I'm young, but I'm not like
super, super young in terms offertility.
We all know as women that whenyou get to 35, your chances of
conceiving easily and naturallystart to dramatically decrease,

(01:20:34):
which sucks because our bodieshaven't caught up with society
in our lives.
Eventually it will.
That's just evolution.
But anyway, but I can't reallynothing I can fucking do about
that right now.
So I looked into it and I wentto the doctor and she pretty
much just said to me look, she'sall like my test and everything
.
She's like everything's good,like really good.
She's like I really recommendcoming back in a couple of years

(01:20:55):
.
Because she was like, if you gothrough this one, it's
expensive, which is fine, themoney isn't the problem.
But the second thing she saidwas and she was funny she said
and she's like I'm going to letyou think who do I can come up
with this rule, the law or therule or whatever the fuck.
It is one year of infertility,so you have to prove that you've
been trying for a year.
Fuck knows how they want you toprove it.

(01:21:16):
So if you freeze your eggs,this is fact.
I don't know if people aregoing to come for me, but this
is fact.
If you freeze your eggs and youwant to use them, you cannot
use them until you've proventhat you've been infertile for a
year, but you've paid for thewhole time for them to be stored
.
That is true, but I did not knowand the doctor was like and she
goes to me, she's so funny,she's an amazing woman.
She was like who do you?

think, made that I was like, oh man for sure, and I
was like yeah, obviously it'sour fucking egg.

Yeah, Anyway, I did know that was true because
obviously my girlfriend with thedonation and stuff, but she was
obviously infertile for thatyear but.
I didn't know that single womenor a woman that just wants to
freeze their eggs can't do itunless proving that.
So then what?

happens if you're in a let's be honest, if you're in a
gay relationship or same-sexrelationship and you freeze your
eggs, then what?

Oh it's different.

I think you've got to freeze embryos.

Actually I don't know.

Oh, wow, that's a whole nother thing.

I think it's certain .

Yeah, actually that's another episode I've got
no idea, so I don't want to, Idon't want to comment on that
because I really don't know.
But she said to me go be free.

Yes, then when you're ready one day she'll come back
in a few years.

So I remember I I mentioned I think I spoke about
this on like a question box oninstagram and then new idea
trash ends up writing this likestory about my baby plans and
wanting to start a family andI'm like I always get questioned
because I'm 33, I don't haveany kids.
Oh, do you not want kids?
Yeah, I do want kids, but notnow.
Like I'm living my absolutebest life, I don't have time.

(01:22:50):
I also really understand whatit means to have children.
So I was a full-time nanny allthrough uni.
I looked after a six-week-olduntil he was four.
I've had multiple kids.
I really, really understandwhat it means to have children A
lot of people when they don't,a lot of people that don't find
it really overwhelming and likeI really understand what I'm in

(01:23:11):
for and I want to make sure I'm100% ready.
It's a huge responsibility,Also with the right person,
because I've seen how shit goessouth with partners and what it
does to you.
Imagine being a mum with youngkids, and I just don't want that
for myself.
So, instead of getting withsomeone having kids super, super
young and then having to splitup when you're like 40, I just

(01:23:32):
kind of want to start a bitlater.
Yeah, I understand, I obviouslywant of want to start a bit
later.
Yeah, I understand.
Like you know, I obviously wantmy parents to be in the kids'
lives and I would have wanted mygrandparents to be, because I'm
very close to my grandparentsand, like I see my cousin, who's
like my sister and my brother,they've all got young kids and
they're all growing up togetherand I do want that, but I don't
have a partner that I want tohave kids with.

Right now I'm really going to have a baby because I'm
at 33.

Like, no, yeah they do, they rush it.
I'm so thankful I didn't have apartner.
Kids are my last partner.
So I feel like everythinghappens for a reason.
I feel like I'm going to meetsomeone.
It's going to happen reallyquickly because, like I think I
love my life so much right now,I'm like what?

Do you know what, though that is like, actually,
like I don't find it selfish atall.
I think you should not have achild until you're 100% ready.
Otherwise that's kind of cruelfor the child, I agree.

Like I want to be able to give my kid everything.
I want to be home with my kid,like we never will look after my
nannies or anything like that.
There's anything wrong withthat.

I'm so into women having it all kids, marriage,
babies teenagers everything theywant a good example of mum and
dad, or mum and mum and whoeverthat is, and I feel like I just
like right now I've had a kid.

I live in a one-bedroom apartment, Like I'm
not in the position to go andbuy a four-bedroom home in
Sydney, which is where I'm goingto live, Like I also want to be
.
I want to have kids withsomeone that I genuinely like
see as my dad Want to have kidswith and.
I don't know if someone's goingto be a good dad until I've
been with them for at least acouple of years yeah I want to.
I want to go through the trialsand tribulations.
I want shit to go wrong.

(01:25:15):
I need some life tragedies tooccur or something to happen
before I'm going to say and Iknow you guys are different, you
guys are just exception to therule, but, like at my stage in
life, I feel like I really wantto make sure it's the right
person for so many reasons.
No, we tell people every day.

we're like, yeah, live your life, go travel, go do
things.
Then do that later on if youcan Do.
You know what I mean.

And if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.
Yeah, but I know that one dayI'm going to turn around and go
fuck, I wish I had kids.
That's why I think, if itdoesn't happen the next five
years, I'll probably You're 33,man.

You're 33, man.
I wish I was 33 again Shit.

I reckon I'll freeze my eggs by 35.
I've got wrinkles in places.
You should not have wrinkles.

I need Botox.
Live your life.
I'm raising four daughters.
I want to tell them the samethings.

I do not want them.

It's really hypocritical of me to say Like I
met Craig when I was 20.
Yeah, and it worked.
It just happened to work.
He was the boy next door, but Iam so fucking lucky.
But obviously over 20 years somuch shit happens.
That's not to say that won'thappen, but it's still good.
I actually love him more thanever today.

(01:26:26):
I love him more than I lovedhim at the start.
But I know that's so fuckingsad.
You know, people put us downfor that.
They're like, yeah, nothing'swrong with you.
People put us down for that.
They're like, oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, nothing's wrong with you
.
Of course, no relationship isperfect.

Like their relationship on Instagram is
actually their relationship inreal life.
They make me sick.

I'm glad I want to make you sick.

No, they're just so genuine Like they actually head
over heels for each other.

No, I think it's, but in the last couple of years
it's gotten better.

The fact that he lays on a blanket and lets you squirt
water on him for a splashblanket ad says everything I
know.

Poor bastard Doesn't even have social media, doesn't
really understand it and letsme do it.

That's so funny.
He's a good sport.

He's a good sport.
Yeah, he really is a good sportand he's relaxed.
Yeah, he's supportive.

Whereas I'm a Like and he's the calm in my storm.

My friends have a story about this theory called
the rock star theory, and it'slike a relationship needs a rock
and a star.
Oh Wow, that is such a good one.
That's my relationship, that'syour relationship.
I am the star, yeah, the rockstar.

It's like the rock and the rock has so many
different facets to it and thestar can be whatever.
Shit, shit, yeah, I love that.
You can't have two stars, youcan't.

And you can't have two rocks so that's fucking boring.

Not that the rock's boring.

The rock doesn't necessarily mean it's boring,
but they need their star.
They need a star.
They need a star to make it.

But me and you are both stars, so how are we?

working and they let us be stars.

You guys would be unhinged if it was just the two
of you.
We are unhinged, yeah wealready are unhinged.

It's terrible, yeah, but I love it I love it, yum Go,
what's ours.

Oh, will we see you on the screen again, the big
screen, other than what you'vejust told us about the cooking?
Definitely.

I see Lauren on her own version of Ready Steady Cook
.

Yeah, Do you remember that show?
No, do you know what I'm mostexcited about?
This podcast is going to besick, but actually see her,
definitely TV.

Yeah, I see you on TV.

I see her being a host of like.

Love.

Island.

Love Island thing.
Yeah, oh, like something likethat, like when Sophie's like
done and d she decides she wantsto leave.

When she passes the torch on.
Nah, there'll be something here.
Just listening here I thinkwe've said it first.
That's our prediction is that Ireckon you'll be on the big
screen.
On the big screen.

But not on another dating show For something else,
something bigger.

Actually, if Love is Blind, came to Australia.

Would you go on it?
Yeah, Guys, just putting it outinto the universe.
We universe.

We're manifesting it.
I do love it, I do like it, butI just couldn't do it.

No, I enjoy it actually like me, yeah, well, I
mean it's intriguing.
I like it because you gotta getto know their personality and
this is gonna sound so shady,but like you can hear their
voice, of their voice I knowactually lauren would like are
you an athlete?

are you an athlete?
Are you an athlete?

No, next room.
How do you get into a ball,don't you reckon you can tell by
their voice?
Yeah, their personality comesout of people's voices.
A hundred percent.

Someone that's got a monotone voice talks very slow
.

People that talk slow is an ick for me.
Oh my God, my list of icks ishuge.
I'm like this huge.

I'm like this.
What did you say?
My friend Lucy told me thefunniest ick the other day.
She was like, oh, I saw thishot guy on Woolies.
And she was like he's buying asix pack of your cold.

Was that an ick?
He's looking after his guthealth.

Oh, I don't know why, though, when a guy
struggles with an umbrella inthe wind, that's also.

Yeah, that's funny.

The guy covers his ears when the blender's going
because it's too hot.

Oh my God, your list of icks is ginormous.
No, it's so funny.

Yes, yes, yes, there's so many.
It's bad, that's good.

I've got a few too.
Yeah, I do too.
Picking your belly button no,if you pick your belly button,
I'm going to choke.

That's wrapping this up.
But, Lauren, we have honestlylike me and Rose could go for
three hours.
I could go for three hours.
This is typical of us.
We can't help ourselves.
We've told you, we're like,yeah, we'll just be here for an
hour.
This part, this second half,has been 37 minutes.

Has it.
Yeah, look, you know what, whenyou're having a good time, you
just have to roll with it.

Love this for.

Oh, thank you so much.
Well, hopefully, one day againwe'll have you on here and maybe
it'll be a love story, maybe itwon't, maybe it'll be a new
show, maybe it won't, we'll justsee.
Maybe it'll be a ball.
Well, the future is huge foryou, I'm telling you now.

Yes, there's big things coming for Lauren.
We are the woo-woo that youdon't have I love it.

I love a bit of woo-woo.

Yeah.

Anyway, I hope you all look after yourselves and
look after each other.
See you later, bye, bye.

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