Infertility. Pregnancy loss. Childlessness not by choice. If you and your spouse are walking this road, you know the grief is real and the strain on your marriage can be significant. The questions are constant, and the future can feel uncertain. Barren Not Broken is a podcast from Legacy Place, a ministry devoted to encouraging and equipping couples navigating infertility, loss, and childlessness. Our heart is to help marriages thrive, not just survive, and to empower couples to shape a legacy that reaches beyond their circumstances. Hosted by Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf, married 25 years, who experienced 19 years of infertility, three miscarriages, and now live as a childless couple not by choice but by circumstance, they have redefined and they're living a legacy centered on a happy & healthy marriage. This podcast offers honest conversations and real stories from couples and trusted professionals who understand this journey firsthand. Each episode provides practical tools to strengthen communication, navigate grief together, and rediscover connection in the middle of heartache. You will find encouragement for the hard days, clarity for the next step, and hope that a healthy marriage and a beautiful legacy are still possible. Because no matter the barren places in our lives, we do not have to live broken.
Jesse and Cindy Mizell have been married for 15 years. They have four children with them and three babies in heaven. Their story includes two early miscarriages, a full-term stillbirth at 39 weeks, and the kind of grief that either destroys a marriage or forges it into something unbreakable. Theirs became the latter.
In this episode of the Barren Not Broken podcast, Jesse and Cindy sit do...
James and Teri Craft, Founders of Marriage Health, will tell you that the biggest mistake of their early marriage wasn't the loss. It was stepping over the loss instead of through it together. It started with a doctor casually and un-empathetically delivering devastating news causing a grief that neither of them knew how to hold. They tried to outrun it; through ministry, through busyness, through looking like everyth...
Nate and Kala Sipple were told they would never have children. Eleven years of infertility, stage four Endometriosis, IVF, embryo loss, and a faith crisis later, they're sitting down with Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf on the Barren Not Broken podcast to share what no one prepared them for... This conversation covers the real questions couples face: Is IVF a betrayal of faith? How do you grieve what's missing while celebrating what yo...
Infertility and pregnancy loss do not just affect individuals, they shape marriages too. During the week of April 19th we acknowledge Infertility Awareness Week. This episode is in preparation for that week. We are creating intentional space to acknowledge the couples walking through this often unseen journey, and to remind you that you are not alone. In this honest and hope filled conversation our hosts Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf ...
When infertility, pregnancy loss, or failed treatments become part of your story, the pain is not only physical, it is emotional, relational, and spiritual. In this episode, Jason and Bonnie Ruth sit down with Talia Lavor, a Physician Assistant and fertility specialist, to talk about the often-overlooked factors behind infertility, especially endometriosis, and why so many couples feel dismissed by the system meant to help them. ...
Infertility does not just break hearts, it strains marriages. Hope and Kadero Watson share 11 years of trying, loss, IVF, and the quiet fears that can grow in the dark. Then they reveal the question that changed everything, “Do you feel like I would leave you if we could never have kids together?” That moment opened the door to honesty, unity, and a new way to fight the battle, together, not against each other. If infertility has m...
In this conversation, Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf sit down with Kimberly Galindo, LPC-S, CST—a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor, EMDR Certified Therapist, Certified Sex Therapist, Consultant in Training, and Leadership & Relationship Coach. Together, they explore how navigating infertility, loss, and childlessness often feels like a private and isolating journey.
The Rolf’s share from their own experience how inviting t...
In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Pastors Myles & Dee MacCloskey join the Rolf’s to talk about the complicated intersection of grief, faith, marriage, and healing.
They open up about their journey through unexpected loss, secondary infertility, and miscarriage—and how it tested their marriage, their hearts, and their hope.
But this episode isn’t just about pain. It’s about making space for questions, grace, and God’s fait...
In this heartfelt and honest episode, Jason and BonnieRuth share their personal story—24 years of marriage, 19 of those spent navigating infertility, pregnancy loss, and ultimately, childlessness. They open up about the unexpected lessons, the deep pain, and the surprising growth they experienced along the way. This episode offers both practical and spiritual tools for couples walking through similar struggles. With vulnerability a...
🎙 NEW EPISODE: Keith & Taryn – Love, Loss & the Layers Between 💔➡️💞
Keith and Taryn met in college and have been married since 2015. Their journey includes the joys of raising two beautiful children—and the deep heartbreak of three miscarriages and a season of secondary infertility.
In this powerful episode of Barren Not Broken, they invite us into their story with rare vulnerability. Together, they open up about:
🔸 The...
In this heartfelt and honest conversation, Caitlyn Baten shares her journey through infertility and how it intersects with her deep passion for foster care and adoption. With a heart rooted in justice and mercy, Caitlyn opens up about what it means to live in the tension—longing for children of her own while being deeply invested in the lives of vulnerable children around the world. She gently challenges the idea that adoption is a...
In this powerful and heartfelt episode, our Host Jason and Bonnie Ruth sit down with Mark and Rachel, lead pastors of The Bridge Church in Chino, CA, both are communicators of real hope and healing. Rachel, also is the author of Miscarried Hope and the founder of Hope Again Collective a jewelry line that gives back to moms who have experienced pregnancy loss. In this episode she shares alongside her husband Mark as they open up abo...
A Doctor’s Perspective how couples can approach decision making, mindset, next steps while navigating faith.
This was a powerful conversation that we hope encourages and inspires you.
Dr. Collins is Board Certified Reproductive Endocrinologist at Center for Reproductive Endocrinology Center for Reproductive Endocrinology Yale University School of Medicine.
The Rolfs have grown to respect him, his faith and practice greatly.
Th...
In this episode we get the opportunity to talk with Chris and Megan Rea of No Small Life & Make Love Work, as they share their journey of navigating infertility and childlessness not by choice, within their marriage and faith community. We will hear how they were able to experience loss while developing a deeper faith but also some of the boundaries they had to create within their community in order to walk through this time i...
In this first episode of the newest Barren Not Broken Podcast season you will hear from our founders Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf. They will guide us through a conversation centered around "Stepping Forward Together in Hope". They reflect on the challenges of the past year and embrace the possibilities of a new one. They dive deep into the journey of healing and resilience, while giving practical tools with the purpose to encourage c...
Peyton from Slaying the Stigma and Co founder of Gathering Hope and BonnieRuth from Barren Not Broken and Co founder of Legacy Place are bringing us a powerful podcast collaboration. Both ladies show us not only sharing their story but vulnerably inviting us into their personal grief journeys and how they have navigated that with their spouse, family and friends. They ask each other a series of questions both bringing their own per...
Peyton from Slaying the Stigma and Co founder of Gathering Hope and BonnieRuth from Barren Not Broken and Co founder of Legacy Place are bringing us a powerful podcast collaboration. Both ladies show us not only sharing their story but vulnerably inviting us into their personal grief journeys and how they have navigated that with their spouse, family and friends. They ask each other a series of questions both bringing their own per...
This chat gets REAL! We do not hold back. It was such an honor to have Vivian share with us with such vulnerability how she has navigated, faith, family, marriage and medical trauma while facing Secondary Infertility. She comes at it from a very honest place yet leaves us with such a perspective of hope and promise in who God is.
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