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• winter golf setup, swing mechanics and muscle memory
• vikings run-game identity, O-line discipline and penalties
• roughing the passer rules, blindside calls and officiating power
• roster age, patience with a young QB and coaching choices
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• respect across differences without burning friendships
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great
hockey team the Soviets have.
Screw this is your time.
Go up there and take it out.

SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
That's gross.
Well, welcome back.
We made it to another Sundayevening consecutively.
Third in a row.
Third in a row.
Third Sunday in a row.
Third Sunday in a row, we'vebeen recording, which is good.
Trying to stay on a schedulehere.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05):
Thank God it's fucking early.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Yeah.
Decided I wanted to get thisshit done with early enough to
where I can go to bed earlier.
I gotta get my the rest of mybasketball stuff organized since
we start tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
I have to pick up a sauna tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
That's kind of what I figured.
Where's the other one at?

SPEAKER_02 (01:22):
Both of them are north.
North?

SPEAKER_01 (01:24):
Brit?
Or like North Cook.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
I know who this is.
They're not north of Cook.
They're I think considered Cook,but they're not.
They're like one is one is overnorth of Side Lake and then the
interest area?
Further Furthermore.
Like w like Township.

SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
I'll show you.
Like towards the junction?
Yes.
Oh, I know where that is.
On one?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55):
Yes.
Actually, one is on 65 South.
Off of one 65 South, and thenthe other one is right off of
one.

SPEAKER_01 (02:03):
Nice.

SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
Yeah, if I could tow both at the same time, it would
have been really convenient.

SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
So I suppose go there, come back, and then go
there.

SPEAKER_02 (02:12):
Because they're they're like I don't know,
twenty minutes away from eachother.

SPEAKER_01 (02:18):
So instead of going forty minutes, you had to do
whatever do.

SPEAKER_02 (02:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (02:23):
That sucks.

SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
That's all right.
No, it's all good.
That's part of the process.

SPEAKER_01 (02:28):
See if your brother can come pull something.

SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
We got he doesn't have a vehicle that can pull
anything.
We got I I think I know thisperson.
I've seen two mugshots of peoplethat I recognize now.

SPEAKER_01 (02:38):
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
But I don't know who they actually are.

SPEAKER_01 (02:42):
Are you on the Connie website?

SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
I am on Facebook.
White Lakes Man charged with themurder of Hibbing.

SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
Oh yeah, the one that shot that 24-year-old on
his birthday.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
Daniel Dale.
And then the other one wassomebody that got charged with a
DUI in Duluth.
He looked younger.

SPEAKER_01 (03:02):
We are not younger.

SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
We are not younger.
We are not younger.
So yeah, you uh it's it's a niceearly evening.
We wanna get the recording inand I'm gonna continue to clean
my garage when you leave.
Just some small things.
I got the uh I got a good setupfor the golf net.

SPEAKER_03 (03:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
Yeah, it's gonna go against the door kind of.

SPEAKER_03 (03:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (03:32):
And we're gonna hit that way.
But we're gonna try and fix yourfucking swing over the winter.

SPEAKER_00 (03:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
Do at least once a week.

SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
I'm done with that.

SPEAKER_02 (03:41):
Just to keep your muscles and it's all ball
striking.
I mean, you're not gonna be ableto see where the ball is going,
but you can feel how well youhit the ball, right?

SPEAKER_01 (03:50):
So just when I was doing anything here the other
night, it it felt really good.
Yeah.
There's a couple of them that Iknow I would have it was good
contact.

SPEAKER_02 (03:59):
Well, yeah, and then there's you can tell if you know
most of them were pretty goodand pretty well struck.

SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
And I was using a wedge and a nine iron, so I mean
it wasn't anything that I use ona consistent basis.
Like I'm not using a nine and awedge every time I have an iron
shot.

SPEAKER_02 (04:13):
And you should be using them more often.
I know I know when we've gonegolfing, I've wanted to
encourage you to use yourapproach clubs more.
But that'll come with betterball striking.
If you get if you get thatmuscle memory and the technique
down where you can strike theball confidently, you're gonna

(04:34):
learn that you can you'll beable to hit your nine-iron like
130 yards.

SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
Right.
Where now I'm hitting it likehalf that.

SPEAKER_02 (04:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:42):
So I'm not confident with it at all.

SPEAKER_02 (04:43):
Well, and and like I say, like a lot of the time your
wedges, you come down behind theball.
And that's where you're gettingthe ball to pop up, which is
good.
You want that elevation, but youalso need to strike ball first
so you get the distance andtrajectory as well.

SPEAKER_01 (05:00):
And I've still got somewhat of a baseball swing
with it.
Because I pop and then I'mcoming back.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (05:05):
Well, and swinging in the garage, you're not going
to be able to go up.
You're going to hit my garagedoor opener.
I don't want to do that.
You got to keep it flat, whichis actually it actually helps
technique-wise.
I swung a few drivers and Idon't hit the ceiling, so nobody
should hit the ceiling.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
Yeah.
You're right.

SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
Get get our buddy over here, our little golf buddy
over here to swing a few to thiswinter.
Yeah.
Like I said, it's not going tobe super entertaining because
we're not going to be able tosee the results, but ball
striking and muscle memory andjust keeping those golf swing
muscles in shape over thewinter, I guarantee you, is
going to make a difference.

SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Oh hell yeah.
So it's a it's like anythingelse, the the repetition and the
the muscle memory and all thatstuff, like you just said.
Even the eye keeping your eyesdown, stuff like that, just
basics.
So I I'm excited.
I mean, even if we tee up ballsin the doorway and hit them into
the the yard.
Oh, yeah.

(06:02):
That's always something we cando.

SPEAKER_02 (06:04):
We could do that just to do just to do a check on
where we're actually swinging.

SPEAKER_01 (06:10):
Well, and that and that's all pending on if it's 30
below outside or not, below whenwe're going to be able to do
that.

SPEAKER_02 (06:14):
Yeah, you'll shatter your driver if you swing when
it's too cold.

SPEAKER_01 (06:17):
Yeah.
And I just bought a new cheapdriver, so I don't want to do
that.

SPEAKER_02 (06:20):
But being on the subject of muscle memory, all
too all too familiar loss forthe Vikings today.

SPEAKER_01 (06:28):
It was.
Otherwise, I mean, he he showsflashes of holy fuck, how did he

(06:51):
do that?
And then he shows flashes ofwhere the hell were you throwing
that ball?
Like what what what are we doinghere?
I think they don't run the ballenough.
I mean, there was that one driveI was in the car, but I know
that we'd we ran the ball likethree or four times in a row,
got first down, first down, goodgain, and then he threw a pick
when Jefferson stepped on thecorner's foot.

SPEAKER_02 (07:14):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
So I mean why are why aren't we running the ball
more consistently?

SPEAKER_02 (07:18):
I'd love to ask KOC that.
I would love to have aone-on-one with KOC and just ask
him where um I'm not a I'm noteven a high-level high school
football coach.

SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
I don't even call plays for our local high school
football team.
But at the same time, anyaverage fan should be able to
see that it's it's still arunning league, no matter who
wants to argue with me on that.
The most successful teams are inthe top seven to eight rushers
in the league.
Look at Philly last year, numberone rushing team in the league,

(07:53):
won the Super Bowl.
Granted, they have SaquonBarkley, so they can be the
number one rushing team in theleague.
Then you look at teams likeBaltimore.
They're always top five rushingteam in the league.
Yeah, it helps that you haveLamar Jackson and now Derrick
Henry, but that's not where itstarts.
It's it starts up front in theoffensive line.
And our offensive line stillisn't at full strength.

(08:15):
But which is bonkers.
It it is.
But at the same time, you know,that that's that's where your
running game starts.
And if you don't have confidencein your offensive line, you're
not gonna have confidence inyour running game, and you're
gonna throw the ball more andyou're gonna roll the pocket and
you're gonna run quarterback andmy biggest takeaway from that
game was all those fuckingpenalties.

SPEAKER_02 (08:34):
Oh my god, it was obscene.
The amount of the the false,what do we have?
Six or seven false starts onoffense at home for the record.

SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
And I think Paul O'Neill or not Paul O'Neill, a
right tackle, O'Neal, yeah, hadhad like five.

SPEAKER_02 (08:50):
It's unbelievable.
That's a that's a solo mentalerror on the lineman's part.
I mean, that is one personthat's screwing up the whole
drive for the team.

SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
You can't do that at home.

SPEAKER_02 (08:59):
You have to be disciplined.
You can't do it at home.
You can't you shouldn't even doit as an NFL lineman.

SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
I I agree.
I I agree.

SPEAKER_02 (09:06):
It's unbelievable to me.
I mean, there there are timeslike I think I had two false
starts in my entire high schoolcareer.
I didn't I didn't have one.
No.
And and and both of both of myfalse starts, I was playing
center and snapped the ball toosoon.
Actually, I take that back.

(09:27):
One of them I snapped the balltoo soon, the other one I didn't
snap the ball, and everybodyelse took off.
One of those funny referee callswhere it's like false start,
everybody on the offense exceptthe center.

unknown (09:39):
And that happens.

SPEAKER_02 (09:40):
And and it's just, you know, whatever I was dazed
in the huddle or just looking ata butterfly or the stars
overhead, and I didn't catch thecount or whatever it was.
Just overthinking it.
And I just held on to the ball,and he's like, and everybody
else moved and he moved, and Ijust stood still.
Fuck.
But I mean, i as an NFL lineman,you think like if that sticks

(10:03):
with me for so long that Ifucked that up in high school,
and if I can go four years, fiveyears of varsity play plus
another two years of youngerplay, it's like if I can go that
long and only have two falsestarts, I think NFL linemen
should be able to fucking stepup and not false.
At least not false starts sixtimes.

(10:24):
Yeah.
I'll give you the benefit of thedoubt.
You get a couple, or you're atan away game and the crowd is
loud and you can't hear shit.
I get that.
Or if the defense is doing somenimbly bimbly shit, I get that.
You get you because your youradrenaline is going, you're
fucking antsy.
You want to get the you want toget the leg up on the defender,
you want to be the first one tomove.

(10:45):
I get that.
I understand how they happen.
But six, however many timesO'Neill falls started today.

SPEAKER_01 (10:53):
So why are they not calling it when you and I'll use
Philadelphia as an examplebecause they do it all the
fucking time.
And I think they're starting todo it now, they're starting to
call it.
But when we played them, I don'tremember which tackle it was,
but it was like half a secondbefore the ball snapped and
dudes moving.

SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
They have gotten so lax with the discipline of the
offensive line.
It used to be where not move.
It used to be where as soon asyou were set, you could not
move.
Like the center, they do thishead bob thing, and the tackles
do this fucking the arm kickpoint.
10, 15 years ago, that was afalse start.

(11:34):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (11:35):
Yep.
Illegal motion or thing.

SPEAKER_02 (11:37):
Yeah, you could not move.
Once you get set, you're set,and then you wait till the ball
is snapped, and that was thecall.
But now I don't know when therules changed where they started
allowing centers, they startedallowing to snap their head up
and down as much as they fuckingwant.
And then they started allowingthe guards and tackles to make
their calls with their hands, sothey flip their hands out.

(11:58):
And even you can see it, thereit's a textbook tackle move
where they'll be on the line,they'll be set either in a two
or three-point stance, andthey'll give like a cock with
their arm right before the ballis snapped.
And it's intentional, it'sobviously intentional to try and
get the defense to jump offsides.
But somewhere, sometime, I don'tknow when it happened, the NFL

(12:19):
decided that they're not gonnacall an illegal motion or a
false start on that type ofmovement.
And I think that's ridiculousbecause you don't need to point
all of your line signals, all ofyour line calls, all of your
double teams and your yoursecond level blocks.
Anything you're calling isaudible.
It's not it's not I'm gonnapoint at this guy because I

(12:39):
guarantee you the tackle fuckingpointing at somebody, the
guard's not looking over to seewho the tackle's pointing at.
Can't see him.
The tackle's just sayingwhatever they have terminology
for each linebacker, and theyhave terminology for each gap or
each hole.
Yep.
And they say, like, if it'swe'll say a a a guard tackle
double team outside to thedefensive end that you call an

(13:02):
under, under, under.
You don't point, hey, I'm gonnadouble team this guy, or or like
a like a second level doubleteam block with the center and
guard on the nose or the insideshade tackle back to the inside
linebacker.
You're calling a Luke or a Roy,my terminology, you're calling
Luke for a left guard centerblock or a Roy for the right
guard center block to the secondlevel, Luke Roy.

(13:24):
And it's not the center's notgoing like Luke Luke, that guy,
that guy.
He's got a you can call 5'4,5'6, 8, 4 numbers, Luke, Luke
5'6, Luke 5-6.
Luke knows that 56 is the left.
I mean, these guys are eliteathletes in the football
spectrum.

(13:44):
Like they are they know thatlike they know the number of
every defender out there.
They they they study hard enoughand they do enough homework
where they know that middlelinebacker 56 is a stud, but if
they have 54 in, they're doinguh more of a pass prevent
offense or defense because 54 isbetter at coverage than 56, but

(14:06):
56 is better blitzing and rungame, so they know what to call.
Like, this is this is football101.
Anyway, my whole gripe fuckinglinemen don't need to be fucking
moving before the ball issnapped.

SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Well, and I can see like a center doing it because I
agree, I agree, because they'rethe the and that's where it
originated.

SPEAKER_02 (14:24):
I think that's where this rule originated was the
center was actually makingaudibles, he was reading the
defense, he was kind ofsquatting so he could see up to
the second level, and he wasmaking audible calls.
Right.
And they allowed the centers tostart doing it, but somewhere,
sometime, they started allowingguards and tackles to do this
fucking arm cock thing.

SPEAKER_01 (14:44):
Which gives them the the advantage of having their
arms up so those defenders don'thave the chance to knock them
down or well you can I mean youcan be in your stance with your
arm at the ready.

SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
It right.
I mean, it doesn't take thatlong, but this every time I see
that, I shake my head becauseit's just it's unnecessary
motion.

SPEAKER_01 (15:02):
I think the biggest gripe from that game, from what
you and I kind of were messagingback and forth on, and I'm sure
a bunch of other people canattest to this, that roughing
the passer call on DallasTurner.

SPEAKER_02 (15:14):
I will play the red team and I will start to I will
start the argument right nowwith the argument to my view.
My view is the opposite of this,but the argument is that skills
players should be protected fromlarger, egregiously larger

(15:35):
players from landing on them.

SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
That's Vince Wilfrog landing on a uh a Kyler Murray.

SPEAKER_02 (15:41):
Yes, yes, and that that that is that is the nature,
that is like the inspiration ofthe rule.
But my entire uh uh personalityand uh all of my opinions are
are based uh uh politically,personally, uh socially, all of

(16:04):
my opinions are based on thenotion that we should not be
making the exceptions the rules.
Because exceptions happen so uhfew times in relation to the
amount of times that the rulehappens, you cannot make a rule
based off the exception becausethen that clouds everything.

(16:27):
So you're talking Vince Wilforklanding on Kyler Murray, Kyler
Murray gets injured and hiscareer is over.
He's a$6.2 million a yearquarterback, whatever the fuck
he gets paid.
I just threw that number outthere.
And now you destroy this guy'scareer.
Guess what?
There, I work with people everysingle day where if they step
wrong and slip into a conveyorbelt, then their life is over.

(16:49):
Yeah, they die.
And it's like, yes, we havecorporate safety policies and we
have safety organizations thatthat uphold safety standards and
stuff, but the fact of thematter is when you have a job
that entails getting hit byanother human being, you cannot

(17:10):
make a rule that prevents humanbeings from hitting other human
beings.
So how I here here's my questionon that play.
How was he supposed to do that?
That's what I want the NFL toanswer.
I want the NFL to answer how washe supposed to make that tackle?

SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
So here's what I got out of it.
And I don't know if it's rightor wrong, because you they're
not all they're not supposed toleave their feet or the they
like both of them aren'tsupposed to be able to leave
their feet or something likethat.
So how I see this and I thoughtfrom what I saw it, it was a I

(17:50):
have it pulled up right here.
I saw him leave his feet, fallon top of him, okay, whatever.
What he's supposed to do on aquarterback that normally leads
the league in rushing can breakalmost any player from getting a
sack on him is to comemidsection and roll.
Now he can't drop his hipsbecause that's illegal.

(18:12):
He can't leave his feet becausethat's illegal.
So is he supposed to push himover?
What happens if Lamar Jacksonthrows that ball and it's a
roughing the passer regardless?
Now you can't you can't do therule for Lamar Jackson, and then
in the same breath, a defendersticks the top of their helmet

(18:33):
underneath the face mask of JJMcCarthy hitting him.
You can't do that.
I don't care what it is.
Look at last year when SamDarnold almost got his head
ripped off in the end zone andnothing's called.
And I will say not protect justthe top five quarterbacks in the
NFL because you don't know whichquarterback is gonna pop on
these other teams.
The Vikings are unwatchable,unwatchable without JJ McCarthy.

(18:58):
Nothing against Brosmer, nothingagainst the other guy that they
picked up, but they were almostunwatchable with Carson Wentz.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
JJ McCarthy is the future of theVikings.
I need to be protecting him justas much as Lamar Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 (19:10):
Okay now.

SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
Do I think after watching the replay that it was
roughing the passer?
Probably.
But it's to the discretion ofthe referee.

SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
Now And by rule in the NFL.

SPEAKER_01 (19:24):
Because the act of passing often puts a passer in a
position where he isparticularly vulnerable to
injury, special rules againstroughing the passer apply.
Players in a passing posture areconsidered to be a player in a
defenseless posture.
Any physical acts against aplayer who is in passing
posture, example before, during,or after attempting a pass,

(19:45):
which in the game, officials'judgment, are unwarranted by the
circumstances of the play willbe called as follow follow
fouls.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
That's the literature from the NFL rule?

SPEAKER_01 (19:56):
That is from the NFL rule.
Okay.
Well, then I take back Thatcan't that no officials'
judgment is the wrong verbiagethat needs to be said.
This is the rule.
This is the rule for PatrickMahomes.

SPEAKER_02 (20:10):
Well, that's what we were talking about.
We've talked about this severaltimes, where it's and I
understand You have to be blackand white in the rule book.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
The money that goes into Patrick Mahomes, Josh
Allen, Lamar Jackson.
I get that, but you can't havethose rules.

SPEAKER_02 (20:23):
That's micromanagement.
You can't you can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
I 100% agree with you.
You have to have the same rulesfor Kings quarterback and the
Browns quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 (20:31):
Knowing that that rule allows for official
discretion now turns myanimosity towards the Hockey
League crew.

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
Because they're the most they they and they said
Paul Allen said this on theradio that they give out the
most penalties in the NFL out ofany other crew.

SPEAKER_02 (20:50):
And then Mike Pereira, yep, the consult the
consultant, whatever, yep, theformer referee.
Yep.
He's like, yeah, it was roughingthe passer by rule.
Well, no, not by rule, becauseyou can't even fucking by
judgment, you can't define whatroughing.
He's like, Yeah, he landed onhim with his body weight.
Again, I implore you to answerme.

(21:12):
Do we just let him fucking throwthe ball?
Like, what do I have to do?
Do I have to stop?
And actually, one of the guys atthe bar today made a really good
suggestion that would it wouldquell my animosity towards
officials and rules, and itwould allow for quarterbacks to
be left alone physically.

(21:33):
Put a fucking skirt on him.
Quarterbacks get to wear a skirtbehind the line of scrimmage,
you pull the flag, quarterbacksdown.
Anytime he crosses the line ofscrimmage, he's fair game for
anything.
But if he's in the pocket oranywhere behind the line of
scrimmage, the defense has topull the flag from his belt
instead of fucking hit him.
If that's what your whole goalis to protect these moneymaker

(21:57):
quarterbacks, then you fuckingput a guardian cap on him and
you put him in a fucking skirtand you tell them you're not
going to get touched as long asyou stay behind the line of
scrimmage.
And then all the fucking PatrickMahomes and all the fucking
Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady'sout there can hang out behind
the line and not worry aboutgetting boo-boos.

(22:18):
And just make it an egregiousfine if you hit a quarterback
behind the line.
Like I'm talking like an$80,000fine if you touch a quarterback
behind the line of scrimmage.
You want to protectquarterbacks, which is what the
excuse that you're saying is forthis rule.
You want to protect them?
Fucking do that.
Don't make it this black andthis gray area fucking blurred

(22:39):
line where it's like, well, Imean, he landed on him with his
body, but it wasn't that hard ofa hit.
Or, well, he didn't land on himwith his body, but he fucking
laid his he knocked his lightsout.

SPEAKER_01 (22:51):
So if a guy say he didn't land on him, stay he
threw him around like a ragdolland anyway.
Exactly.
Like suplexed him.
Is that rough in the past?

SPEAKER_02 (22:59):
It would be.
It would any suplex tackle isillegal now.
They call suplex tackles illegalright now.

SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
But I'm just saying, like he he wraps him up.
If he like uses his momentum andspins.

SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Yeah.
I've seen that called.
I've seen that called on onnon-quarterbacks.
I've seen that called.
It was probably Hokuly's crewthat called it.

SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
It's it's very disheartening.
And then the blind side blows.

SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
Oh my god.
I'm so happy Thielen was sopissed off about that.
The guy fucking ran into him.

SPEAKER_01 (23:29):
So is he Thielen's just supposed to stand there and
take him?
He did.
Well, he put his arms up what hewas gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 (23:35):
He engaged, he engaged, quote unquote, engaged
in the block.
Is he not allowed to protecthimself?
What the fuck, man?
I mean, that that oh that wasterrible.
I I was the loudest person inTom and Jerry's today, which
isn't a real shocker, but thatwas terrible.
I was losing my mind and peoplewere laughing at me.
And I like, I'm like, this isfucking stupid.

SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
That was one of the worst calls I've seen in a long
time.
Now it wasn't even a pick play.

SPEAKER_02 (24:05):
No, he he it was a he stood there, and the guy and
that's what I said.
That's what I said in real timewhen I saw that block.
I said, if you want to play inthe NFL, pay the fuck attention.
If you don't want to get oh,this is another good one.
One of my buddies on Facebookhad a good had a good post about
it.
He said, It's the quarterback'sfault he gets sacked.

(24:27):
Either get rid of the ball orget better line.
Ultimately, it's that team'sfault that they cause a sack,
right?
Because the defense gets arounda no-lineman or the running back
or the tight end or whoever'sjob it is to block did not do
their job, and that's why thequarterback's in jeopardy.
That's a natural consequence ofplaying fucking football.
Correct.

(24:47):
And now you don't even have tolive with it because if you let
a guy by, there's a 50-50 shotthat it's going to be a roughing
the passer card.
It's a natural consequence.
That's part of the game.
The quarterback gets sacked.
You can't have a penalty becausethe guy gets lit up.
These guys are coming in hot.
Like they're not, they're nottaking baby steps at the

(25:07):
quarterback.
They these two to three hundredand fifty pound defensive
linemen have to give all oftheir fucking effort to get by
these 250 to 350 to 400 poundoffensive linemen.
And then once they do that,their momentum's moving.
You can't stop an object inmotion unless it's met with

(25:29):
equal or opposite force.

SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
And if you do stop something that large going that
fast, they get hurt.
They do.

SPEAKER_02 (25:35):
Like try stopping on a dime when you're a big boy
like me.
It's not, it's not fun.
It hurts your ankles and kneesright now.

SPEAKER_01 (25:41):
So I I just that I think it was the next series
when JJ got hit when I think itwas Mason that missed a block on
Hamilton.

SPEAKER_02 (25:50):
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Whoa, big miss.
Big miss block.

SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
I don't know.
I I don't I don't like it.
The Thielen thing really pissedme off.
I mean, I can I can't get onboard with the passing.

SPEAKER_02 (26:01):
No, but I can accept I can learn to accept that this
is the league standard.
I can't get the passer.
Yes, yes.
But that block.
Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Jones ran out of the backfield.
Thielen's running a drag route,more or less, and he stopped.
And looked up, and a guy wasthere.
And put his hands up to protecthimself.

SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
And the guy wasn't looking, so he got knocked over.

SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
He got hit.

SPEAKER_02 (26:26):
He got knocked over.

SPEAKER_01 (26:27):
And by the time he turned his head to Thielen, he
was looking up at the ceiling.
Yeah.
That is not a blindside hit.
No.
That is not a crack block.

SPEAKER_02 (26:36):
No, it wasn't.
It wasn't A, A, it wasn'tintentional.
If you watch the replay, hedidn't even mean to do that.
He just put his fucking handsup.

SPEAKER_01 (26:46):
It's not a blindside block, and I don't even think
that would be a offensive passinterference.
It wouldn't be anything.

SPEAKER_02 (26:53):
No, it wasn't a yard down the field.
It was well within the fuckingpress zone or whatever they call
it, where receivers can go handson the five-yard zone.

SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
It's it's getting to a point where I'm I'm I just I
don't even want to watchanymore.

SPEAKER_02 (27:06):
Well, that's I posted two Facebook statuses
today and both of them said fuckthe NFL.

SPEAKER_01 (27:10):
It's so the professional sports is getting
and it's all professional sportsare getting so bad at this.
And I understand you want toprotect players.
I get that.
I I I understand it.
It's a business.
You may it makes a lot of money.

SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
But if you're not sure, yeah, but there's always
somebody that there's alwaysgonna be somebody else.
It might not be on the sameteam, it might not be in the
same division or conference, butthere's always gonna be somebody
that's fucking rock startalented.
Regardless of how many peopleget injured, there's always the
next fucking there's always thenext Tom Brady, there's always

(27:46):
the next Emmett Smith, there'salways the next fucking Randy
Moss, there's always the nextone.
Yes, it sucks that they gethurt, but that's kinda like
again.

SPEAKER_01 (27:57):
They know that because they play for how long?
They've been playing their wholelives, they understand the risks
of the game.
Yes, whether it be CTE or ACLinjuries or neck injuries.
You hear some of these guys thathave been hurt badly from the
game of football or basketballor whatever, baseball, they
wouldn't trade it for anythingelse in the world.

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They want to play the sport thatthey love.

SPEAKER_02 (28:19):
And I think that's part the nothing feels better on
defense than laying somebody outthat has the ball.
And nothing feels better onoffense as a non-skilled player
than laying somebody out.

unknown (28:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
You and I both did that a lot when we played.

SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
I mean, it it's such a good feeling just to throw
that block.
And now you have people that areelite, they made it to the top.
They are they made it, man.
And now they're getting told,uh, you can't play like you used
to.

SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
Right.
And that that's it'sdisheartening.
It really, really is.
And you saw the frustration onJefferson's face, and Thielen's
face.
I mean, that one passinterference call that almost
didn't get called for Jeffersonwhen the dude was all over his
arm.

SPEAKER_02 (29:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:05):
I mean, it was that was pretty bad.
I'm and there's pass just likeholding, there's pass
interference on every singlepass, whether it's offensive or
defensive.

SPEAKER_02 (29:13):
Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
And uh to leave it up to the judgment of a human
being is hard.
The refs officials' jobs arehard.

SPEAKER_02 (29:22):
They are I'm I'm never gonna say it's an easy
job.

SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
But if you're at the level of the NFL, you you need
to one, not be biased.
You you need to have a clearunderstanding of the game, and
you can't let your one calldictate the outcome of the game.
You can't do that.
Yeah.
And I think some of theseofficiating crews, and in
whether it's basketball,baseball, football, hockey,

(29:49):
soccer, whatever, a lot of thesepeople are ex athletes that have
little man syndrome.
They have all the power right intheir hands.

SPEAKER_02 (29:56):
And uh on the on that note about reffing
Officiating being difficultcriticizing KOC.
I understand being NFL headcoach, he he knows a lot more
than I do.
He's had a lot of experience.
He he's a former player, he hegets it, but I mean, armchair

(30:17):
coach here, like we saidearlier, run the goddamn ball.
You have to.
And and I'm out here liketalking to our other buddy,
texted me.
He said KOC needs to needs tohang up on the play call.
Like, we gotta get at least getlike an offensive consultant to
help you out.
Do but just just something,because it his play calls are

(30:41):
questionable.
And I don't even remember inrecent history the last time the
Minnesota Vikings had a goodoffensive play caller.

SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
Oh, what's Schottenheimer?

SPEAKER_02 (30:50):
Schottenheimer might be the last one that I remember.
Because Musgrave sucked.

SPEAKER_01 (30:56):
Yeah, there were Stefansky was good too.

SPEAKER_02 (30:58):
Stefansky was okay.

SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
Stefansky, I liked him.
But the last good offensive playcaller, man.

SPEAKER_02 (31:09):
I mean, it's been a minute.

SPEAKER_01 (31:10):
It's been a long time.
A long time.
We've had a lot of really gooddefensive coordinators.

SPEAKER_02 (31:15):
Oh, yeah.
Brian Bills.
I've never had I've never had aproblem with the Vikings
defense.
Even when we weren't that great,I still love the Vikings
defense.

SPEAKER_01 (31:22):
And I can go way back.
Brian Billick was a fantasticde-coordinator.
Mike Tomlin was good.
Was our D-coordinator when MikeTice was our head coach.
Zimmer was there for a minute.
He called the defense even as ahead coach to and obviously.
Now Flores.

SPEAKER_02 (31:38):
And I love Brian Flores.

SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
And and you know, his defense played really well
today.
And that's what sucks about thiswhole thing with the growing
pains with McCarthy.
I don't want to waste all thistalent that we have.
Yeah.
Young talent.
Yeah.
But we are one of the oldestteams in the league.
Like we're getting older and theleague's getting younger.
Like that's a big problem.
I love Harrison Smith.

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Love him to death.
He's been a fantastic Viking forhis career.
He's I think today was his 200thstart.

SPEAKER_02 (32:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
He's old, man.
He is.
He's got a goal.
He he does.
He's got to hang it up.

SPEAKER_02 (32:12):
Hey, that's on my that's on my that's that's my
whole argument.
Get the fuck out and get theseyounger guys in.

SPEAKER_01 (32:18):
Hopefully Grenard's okay from the sounds of it.
It looked like he had adislocated shoulder or broken
collarbone.
Yeah.
Hopefully it's just a stinger.
But who do we have next week?
I didn't even look at theschedule.

SPEAKER_02 (32:29):
I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 (32:30):
I don't I don't think it really matters.

SPEAKER_02 (32:32):
I I just I know it's another toughish game.

SPEAKER_01 (32:34):
Are the rest of our schedules tough?
But it it's gonna be hard for usto make any noise.
I would I would rather DubBears.
That'll be a tough one.
They sweeped one out at the endthis week.

SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
The Bears at home.

SPEAKER_01 (32:47):
I I I really do I don't know if I'm I'm on the
fence about the whole playoffthing.
Because if we get in theplayoffs, we have a later draft
pick.
If we don't get in the playoffs,we have a higher draft pick.

SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
Well, yeah, we had that question either last week
or a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 (33:02):
I don't know.
I I don't I don't know what Iwhat I want to do with that.
I that's all dependent on on howthings go.
We need we need to get younger.
Yeah.
To get younger is the mostimportant thing for our for our
squad.
Getting younger and healthy.
I mean, JJ can't just start fouror five games a week or a year.

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That's bad.
Yeah.
I do think that we should goover next next Sunday, we'll go
over our our picks from thebeginning of the year.
See how we're doing if we wantto change any at all.
Look at standings and all thatkind of stuff.

(33:43):
But yeah, I just I don't know.
I it's frustrating.
It is.
It's really frustrating becauseyou see the you see the talent
that that the Vikings have andto to just waste it, it's it's
hard to watch.
It really is.
But hopefully McCarthy can getthis shit together in the next
couple of years.
And he's learning.
Like they're all learning witheach other.

(34:04):
That like that's the big thing.
And to be able to move forwardwith the whole thing, it's gonna
be it's gonna be real importantfor us as a team.
Hopefully, we don't just give upon him or fuck it all up like we
did.
Christian Ponder would have beena great quarterback if we just
could have protected him.
Our offensive line was sofucking terrible when we played.
He was just playing, he playedscared.

(34:26):
Yeah.
How can you not when you got asieve for an offensive line and
you you don't even get twoseconds to throw the ball?

SPEAKER_02 (34:33):
Yeah, that was bad.

SPEAKER_01 (34:34):
You're getting tackled when you're handing the
ball off to Adrian Peterson orChester Taylor.
Like it's it's terrible.
It it's it doesn't create a goodwork environment, as I like to
say.
It it's bad.

SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
In other sports news, what the fuck was the
Timberwolves court?

SPEAKER_01 (34:52):
Well, that's for the the midseason cup.

SPEAKER_02 (34:56):
Oh, I could not watch Oh my god, it was hard to
watch.

SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
All the courts are like that.

SPEAKER_02 (35:02):
Oh well, lime green, though.
I mean, chartreuse green.
Yeah, that's their uh You gottaknow as like a TV producer, all
the TV producers in the NBA weregoing, please don't do that,
please.

SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
That's their third color.
It's terrible.
I I hate it.
I think it's gross.

SPEAKER_02 (35:19):
That's an awful color.

SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
I'd rather see them wear those retro 90s jerseys and
play on that kind of a court.

SPEAKER_02 (35:28):
Well, why can't we just have normal wood courts?
I don't know.
Why can't we just have regularwood courts?
I mean, football fields besidesthat fucked up Boise State one
are all still green.

SPEAKER_01 (35:43):
And uh I think Coastal Carolina has it like a
teal.

SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
Oh yeah.
Pretty sweet actually.
Well, and and Hibbing HighSchools is navy blue.
Have you been there?
Yeah.
Have you seen it?
Yeah, it's not great.
I don't like colored grass isgreen, man.
I don't like it.
Grass is green, dirt is brown,wood is wood.

SPEAKER_01 (36:02):
It's hard to see, and I'm sure this is kind of a
play on it for them.
Like it's hard to see them whenthey're in their home.
When I watched them play Escothat one time, it was it was
pretty easy for them to findHibbing.

SPEAKER_03 (36:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:17):
Yeah.
I don't understand why my micwent out.
What did you do to me?
I didn't touch nothing.
Don't fucking lie to me.

SPEAKER_02 (36:32):
Dorothy Mantooth is a saint.

SPEAKER_01 (36:35):
But at least the Timberwolves are doing well.

SPEAKER_02 (36:37):
I mean they're starting to start to turn around
now that Anthony Edwards andJulius Randall is putting on a
show.

SPEAKER_01 (36:43):
Well, the big rumor now is that the Timberwolves are
gonna go after Ja Mor Morant.
Oh yeah, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (36:50):
I don't know.
I don't I I don't know.
So how'd your how'd your girlsenjoy the Sadie Hawkins dance?

SPEAKER_01 (37:00):
Well, I mean, I don't know.
Nina said it was boring.
They only played, they repeatedlike four or five songs.
Chloe had a great time.
She danced the whole time, shesaid and sang the whole time.
So she she had a goodexperience.
She went with another friend.
Yeah.
Pictures were nice.
It's just not the same from whenwe went.

SPEAKER_02 (37:20):
No, it's not.
We me and Maya talk about that alot and how dances used to be
fun and now it's just likeanother social gathering.
It's not even like they could dothe same thing without music and
dresses, and it'd be the same.

SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
That's kind of what I I talked to my wife about it.
Like, we're spending three, fourhundred dollars on dresses and
tickets and pictures and allthis other shit, and all they do
is stand in the corner and talkto each other.
Like, what the hell is this allabout?
It reminds me of for those ofyou that have seen this movie,
it's one of my favorites.
Uh, heavyweights.

SPEAKER_02 (37:52):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (37:53):
When they have the dance with the all-girl camp and
it's the fat kid camp, and thenone of the counselors from the
kit, the boy camp, goes outthere and just starts dancing.
Like, that's what that's what Ienvision.
Like, if you were myself or oneof the other dad parents was,
we'd just go out in the middleof the dance floor and start

(38:15):
just embarrassingly dancing infront of our children.
So I don't know.
Sadies isn't the same from fromwhen we went, which obviously
it's not gonna be.
That was over 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
But well, not over.
Not over 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
Well, for some of us.

SPEAKER_02 (38:33):
No, not even for you.
Not over 20 years yet.
Your first one, maybe, not yourlast one.

SPEAKER_01 (38:40):
Well, last night it'd have been 20.
If we had Sadies the same night,20 years would have been last
night.
I've been out of high school for20 years.
Oh fuck.
This would have been my senioryear 20 years ago.
Yeah.
And I guess they played musicfrom the 70s, 80s, 90s, and
2000s, like nothing new.
Anyway, yeah, that was thetopic.

(39:01):
And then they all I think Ninawent back to my uncle's house.

SPEAKER_02 (39:05):
She said, yeah, she I talked to her.
She said she ended the nightpretty early.
Ten o'clock, I think she saidshe got back.
Yeah, she said she stayed uptill eleven and went to sleep.
Mine was up until 5 a.m.
playing poker.

SPEAKER_01 (39:16):
Where?
Here?

SPEAKER_02 (39:17):
No, at at the party place they were at.
Oh, nice.
At the after party place?

SPEAKER_01 (39:24):
Yeah, Gavin went to a friend's place and they don't
have heat there, so they had abunch of space heaters all all
around.
Why?
Do they not have heat?
It's a cabin.
Oh.
And a cab.
He left.
He came back to the house atlike three in the morning.
Him and his girlfriend.

(39:45):
So whatever.
I didn't yeah.
I d I don't know.
Normally that's just a littlebit well well planned.
Like normally people plan thatbeforehand.
Oh yeah.
Like I I I've never thought ofgoing to a dance and not knowing
where the after party was.
And there better be fucking heatthere.

(40:08):
No kidding.
I mean it's November.
A lot of deer p pictures onFacebook too.

SPEAKER_02 (40:14):
Yeah, there was a few.
One of my cousins shot a nice Idon't know if it was an
eight-pointer I couldn't countexactly in the picture, but down
at my uncle's house, his buddyshot a deer they've been kind of
tracking the last few years.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
It's got a paddle rack on it.
It's a 15-pointer.
Damn.
Or 12-pointer.
Really, really nice deer, bigdeer.
And then my other uncle shot a Ithink it was an eight-pointer
last weekend.
During bow that it was a bowlseason tag.
So he shot that down at my dad'shouse with his crossbow.

(40:50):
So I mean I and then Gavin'sbest friend shot one yesterday
morning before the dance.
Saw that.
One of our other softballbuddies, his he got one pretty
early.
Him and his wife drug that out.
Yeah, there I saw a lot ofpeople on Facebook, on my
Facebook anyway, that got deer.

(41:11):
Not a lot of does.
Like everybody shot bucks.

SPEAKER_02 (41:13):
They were really stingy with dough permits this
year in the area.
The hunting area just north ofhere last year gave out 600 doe
permits.
This year they gave out 25.

SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 (41:25):
Yeah, so they're they're not giving dough permits
out.

SPEAKER_01 (41:30):
Interesting.
I wonder why.
There's doughs everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 (41:35):
Yeah, I think well, I was talking to somebody, can't
remember who I was talking to.
They were like, well, maybe theyshould make it maybe they should
make a uh antlerless only seasonso we can preserve some of these
male deer once in a while.
I mean, if we're shooting ifwe're shooting all antlered

(41:59):
deer, you're taking m all atleast most of the mature bucks
out of the picture, and you'retaking a lot of young bucks out
of the picture, so you're onlyleaving these really young,
antlerless bucks and does.

SPEAKER_01 (42:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
And when you get to that point, it's what the fuck
is happening?

SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
The foot's tangled in your cord.
What the fuck are you doing overthere?
Struggling.
Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (42:29):
When you get to that point, it's like I mean, I I
know the DNR has their plans andthey they manage the the herds,
but it's like the math doesn'tmath.
If you're taking all of thebreeding aged bucks out of the
equation, then you're leaving agap because the immature bucks

(42:50):
don't breed until they're liketwo or three.
And the does aren't gonna bangthemselves and make babies.
So that's profiling.
Well, I'm just saying, ovaryplus ovary doesn't equal zygote.

SPEAKER_01 (43:06):
I agree.

SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
So it's like, is there gonna be a point where we
look at that and are like, hey,maybe we should make it limited
antler deer and then take asmany antlerless as you want,
because then you're preservingsome of the breeding males, and
then that will bolster the deerpopulation.
I don't know.
That's just my that's myarmchair conservationist

(43:31):
opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
Well, you'd think that's be that would be in the
plans for it, just because, youknow, like you just explained,
you shoot all the I mean, it'ssurvival of the fittest.
All the breeders.
You're shooting all the breederdeer and you're leaving all the
the cross-eyed one-legged, youknow, weird ones.

(43:52):
That's pretty much what you'regonna start getting.
That's how the population isn'tgonna keep going.

SPEAKER_02 (43:56):
I mean the other problem is those pesky wolves.

SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
That too.
We should have a wolf season.

SPEAKER_02 (44:04):
I know they they looked into it at one point.
I think they're still lookinginto it, but I don't know.
There I just saw a video of Ijust saw a video of a couple
wolves just romping and roamingdown the streets of Ely.

SPEAKER_01 (44:19):
Probably from the Wolf Center.
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
I don't know what the what theanswer to that is.
I don't know either.

SPEAKER_02 (44:30):
I mean there's I should have should have gone to
college for conservation.

SPEAKER_01 (44:35):
I know we have some friends that are in that kind of
field, also.
If you guys listen, give us somefeedback on that and let us
know.
I'm interested.
I'm I'm interested to know theanswer to that.
Just because I I think it'sinteresting.
I really do.
We do.
Why are we only allowing certainzones to get so many dope
permits where in other zonesit's it's both?

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Are you hunting this year atall?
If I see one out the window ofmy house.

SPEAKER_02 (45:01):
That's my that's my strategy this week, but I am
going up to the land nextweekend.

SPEAKER_01 (45:06):
I with basketball starting, probably not.
I mean, this weekend was toughwith Sadies, and then today
being my mom and Susie'sbirthday.
We I just didn't feel like goingnext weekend.
I have my basketball scrimmageon Saturday on Rock Ridge, and
then Sunday I'm sure I'm gonnabe all over the place trying to

(45:26):
figure out stuff with that justbased on what I see on Saturday,
and then third weekend is it'salways too fucking cold by then.
I I never and my birthday isthat that Wednesday before the
third weekend, so I don't know.
I I've never honestly I've neverreally been much of a deer
hunter.
I did it more for thecamaraderie and hanging out with

(45:50):
my uncle and you know, stufflike that.
And with my uncle from Nashvillenot coming up and my other uncle
going out he's going out westfor work, he just left today.
So I'm not gonna see him.
And then my you know, I just Igot too much going on.
Just way too much going on.

(46:10):
Like I said, if I see it out myfront window and I feel like
poking a deer, maybe I will.

SPEAKER_02 (46:15):
Yeah, we have the luxury of doing that living
where we do.

SPEAKER_01 (46:18):
I did buy a tag just in case for the for our zone
here in our area.
So if I want to take one, or I Icould even give it to the guy
down the road.
I'm sure he could fill it.
Or you or whoever.
I mean, it half the people inthe place we live don't even buy
tags.

(46:40):
So it it's it is what it is.
I d I don't I don't like cold.
I might buy a bowl for next yearnext season, next year.

SPEAKER_02 (46:49):
Yeah, it's warmer during bow season.

SPEAKER_01 (46:50):
I was looking at Fleet Farm and they have one on
sale right now for like 450bucks.
It shoots oh, what the hell wasit?
It's one of the less expensive,not the top brand one.
It shoots like 150, 150 yards,160 yards.
And you're never gonna shoot atthat crossbow that far, ever.

(47:18):
Oh man.
So yeah, I just I've shot acouple crossbows.
It's it's a fucking blast.
I wanna it's a lot of fun.
You been watching the wild atall?

SPEAKER_00 (47:32):
No.
I try not to.

SPEAKER_01 (47:41):
The what?

SPEAKER_02 (47:47):
No, my wife had it on this morning and instantly I
became angry.

SPEAKER_01 (47:54):
What made you so angry?

SPEAKER_02 (47:55):
I prefer listening to the news rather than watching
the news.

SPEAKER_01 (48:00):
Yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
I I I think the news sourcesthat you and I would normally
get our news from don't try andram things down your throat.
You know what I mean?
And I I I just think that a lotof these big news outlets they
have such an agenda agenda andthey have such an investment in

(48:27):
everybody's got an agenda.
Such an investment in either thecurrent uh administration or the
the next administration.

SPEAKER_02 (48:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
No, it just it's frustrating.

SPEAKER_02 (48:39):
Current events are forty days into the government
shutdown.
Forty days of people who getpaid.
That's the longest ever,correct?
Almost.
It's approaching.
I think the longest ever wasslightly longer, but it could
be.
You might be right.
But yeah, it's just people thatget paid to make decisions on

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behalf of the masses are unableto make decisions on behalf of
the masses.
And that's just where the worldis.

SPEAKER_01 (49:11):
It's always it helps that most of them are very, very
wealthy and they can take thetime off to vacation.

SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
Oh, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 (49:18):
With my wife's job, TSA and air traffic control and
these airlines.
There's a lot of there's a lotof issues.
A lot of people not working.
Oh, yeah.
Not good.
Not good at all.
I mean I don't know.
I don't know.
These people are supposed towork for the people, not for
themselves, for their ownagenda.

SPEAKER_02 (49:39):
Well, and that's how the news, the mass outlets
portray it, is like these peopleare working for the people with
this opinion, and these peopleare the working are working for
the people with this opinion.
Well, they're supposed to workfor both.
They're supposed to work foreveryone, and they're supposed
to be the ones that come up withthe ideas that are gonna work
for everybody and not just oneside or the other.

SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (50:01):
And that's just where we are in society as a
world, in fact.
You know, it's it it's just it'sit's just yin and yang.
It's everybody has one-sidedviews, and everybody else has
other sided views, and nobodycan just sit down and agree to

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meet somewhere in the middle.
I know some people that arevery, very, very, very
passionate about their beliefsand about how they feel people,
other people should live theirlives.
And I to them implore them toanswer the question, what makes
them the the what makes themable to make that judgment?

(50:47):
Like who basically who are youto judge what I do what a good
person is or what a bad personis.
And a lot of them, it's it'sfunny because a lot of them lean
back on their faith when theysay, you know, morality comes
from faith, faith begetsmorality, religion begets

(51:08):
morality, but they're also inthe same breath of air the ones
that are making it harder tohelp people that need help.
They're also the ones that votein favor of rich people getting
even richer and corporationsmaking obscene amounts of money.
Elon Musk, last week, Elon Muskwas approved by the Board of

(51:32):
Tesla to receive a one trilliondollar equivalent in in stocks.
If he meets certain expectationsover the next five years as CEO
of Tesla, he will receive instock options a one trillion
dollar bonus.
It's the first of its kind.

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Nobody's ever received thatamount of money.
And it's gonna be hard for himto do, granted.
Like he he pr like 90% chancehe's not gonna be able to do
what he has to do to get it.
But they also gave the board ofdirectors some discretion and
leeway in that, where if hecomes up short on some things,
they can still vote that to bemade happen.

SPEAKER_01 (52:15):
Jesus.
But that's it, that's insane.

SPEAKER_02 (52:19):
Well, I mean trillion dollars.
A trillion dollars, yeah.
And who needs that money?
Any anybody that's got even abillion dollars didn't come
about it honestly.
I mean, the only billionairethat that I would say earned
their money honestly bought alottery ticket when it was over
a billion dollars and won.
Jimmy Buffett.
Jimmy Buffett?

(52:40):
Warren Buffett?
That one, yeah.
Jimmy Buffett is Marguerite,though.
Warren Buffett is probably themost like human of them,
progressive human that wants totake care of people and do the
right thing.
But all I mean, anybody that'smade money off of investing in

(53:00):
stocks and solely investing instocks and purchasing other
companies and mergers, and uh ifyou're in that if you're in that
ballpark, then I I guess you youcould come by it honestly, but I
mean the the egregiously richpeople are are not there because
they are taking care of thepeople that need help.

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They are there because they aretaking care of one person.

SPEAKER_01 (53:26):
Like the Vanderbilts and the Carnegies and the Apples
fans.

SPEAKER_02 (53:30):
Vanderbilts, Carnegies, Elon Musk, Bill
Gates, Donald Trump, WarrenBuffett, Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs,
Rip, the other Tim, Tim, theother CEO of Apple, the current
CEO of Apple, Tim, whatever.
Yep, yep.
But it's like I Zuckerberg.
Zuck, yeah.
And Zuckerberg's just a freak,man.

(53:52):
I mean, nobody likes him.
Literally, nobody likes him.
He's weird.
But I'm just saying, like it'salways it's always even even if
I even if I propose somethingthat would be we'll say 20 years
ago, it would have been viewedas a very, very moderate stance

(54:14):
on something.
Some of these people still callme LibTarded because I think
that.
It's like it's a moderatestance, man.
I'm not I'm not one of thepeople that's screaming liberal
obscenities from mountaintops.
I mean, I I live my life the wayI live my life, and I try not to

(54:37):
let the way other people livetheir lives affect my life.

SPEAKER_03 (54:40):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (54:41):
And even when they do live their lives and it
affects me, I don't jump downtheir throats over it.
I talk to them and try to comeup with a way to agree if I like
them.
If I like the person, I'll talkto them and try to come up with
a way that I can agree withthem.

SPEAKER_03 (54:54):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (54:54):
And there's some people who I love, I love
hanging out with, I lovespending time with, and we just
can't talk about big worldissues like that because it it
just deteriorates immediatelyand gets into an argument, and
we recognize that and we don'ttalk about it.

SPEAKER_01 (55:07):
Yep.
I like to stir that pot though.

SPEAKER_02 (55:10):
But and a jab, a jab from time to time is fun and in
good humor, but when it actuallycomes down to it getting in the
weeds, I those those people thatI like as human beings, right?
I I mean I put political viewsviews past.
And would I love to reach anagreement and a and and a mutual

(55:31):
understanding and a neutralground?
Yes, I would, but am I gonnasacrifice the sanity of myself
to do that?
No, I'm just gonna accept theyare who they are, and I'm gonna
let them think what they think.
And as long as we don't discussbig world views, everything's a
good time.
Right.
And even when we do discuss bigworld views, it's still a good

(55:53):
time.
I like I like discourse, but itit's still not until somebody
throws a white clock.
It's still it's still not, andthat wasn't even about like a
major view, but it's it's notabout like I'm not gonna hang
out with this person becausethey're this way.
Right.
And that's kind of my wholeargument right now is like if I

(56:18):
can do that, if people believe Iam so set in my ways and I am
such a far-left conspiracist,like I like if people believe
that I am that way and they arestill able to hang out with me
and have a good time with me andhave fun, then they are putting

(56:40):
the way that I live my lifeaside, even though it
contradicts their views, becausethey like me.

SPEAKER_03 (56:46):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (56:47):
So what I am imploring other people to do is
to take that and just apply thatto all human beings.
Where it's not your buddy thatyou hang out with and have a
good time with, and we have somegreat times, like we have fun as
a group, but it's like thestranger you see on the corner

(57:07):
that's dressed in drag, give theguy a break.
Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (57:12):
Is it affecting you?

SPEAKER_02 (57:13):
The two guys that posted on Facebook that they
just got married and they'resuper happy that they got
married because it's legal, givethem a break.
Just because you disagree withit doesn't mean you have to tell
them you disagree with it.
Right.
Okay, that's my rant for thenight.
Good job.

(57:34):
You got me going.

SPEAKER_01 (57:35):
Good.
That was that was my plan.
That was a good plan.
So we're doing a brackettonight.
Thank God.
We're gonna do greatest sportsmovies of all time.

SPEAKER_02 (57:43):
Oh, I like it.
This one might actually havesome controversy.
A lot of the other ones we'veagreed pretty wholeheartedly on,
but we'll see what this.
I know both you and I, there'sone movie that's gonna be a
shoe-in no matter what,typically to at least the
semifinals, if not the finals,but well, and it looks like they
put a lot of these like similarmovies against each other and

(58:05):
some of the ones from the samelike it's more or less the same
movie.

SPEAKER_01 (58:11):
Oh so we're gonna start the first.
The first two, like uh it goesone side, then it goes the other
side.
We've gone over that before.
First movies are Rocky Belboaand Rocky II.
So Rocky Balboa, I believe, isthe one that I don't know if
it's the first one or if it'sthe the Rocky one, like or the

(58:34):
Belbo I don't know.
I I'm still picking uh Rocky II.
Rocky II is my favorite.
I love Rocky II.

SPEAKER_02 (58:39):
I think Rocky II might be the only one that I've
ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 (58:42):
Well, it'll make the next one even more difficult.
Rocky III or Rocky IV.
So Rocky III is Mr.
T.
Rocky II! Rocky IV is with theRussian.

SPEAKER_02 (58:52):
Uh Rocky IV for me.
I liked Rocky IV.

SPEAKER_01 (58:55):
Yeah.
Although Rocky III is where Mickdies.
This one's gonna be hard.
This one's gonna be hard.
Creed?

SPEAKER_02 (59:04):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (59:04):
Or Warrior.

SPEAKER_02 (59:06):
Ooh, that is hard.

SPEAKER_01 (59:08):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (59:10):
I really liked Warrior.

SPEAKER_01 (59:12):
I did too.
Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton,Nick Nolte.
It was it's such a good story.

SPEAKER_02 (59:19):
Oh, it's a it's a tearjerker.
You've gotta go with Warrior.
I'm I'm in agreement with that.
I have to.

SPEAKER_01 (59:26):
Creed was phenomenal.
I loved what they did with it.
I love that they they gave uhMichael B.
Jordan a chance.
He did a fantastic job.

SPEAKER_02 (59:34):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:36):
But it almost seemed like the same movie that Rocky
was.
You know what I mean?
They just remade Rocky withAdonis Creed.
Paul Creed.
So next one the original KarateKidd or the remake of J of
Karate Kid.
So the remake had Jaden Smithand Jackie Chan, where they
obviously the original was.

(59:56):
I would say the original inyeah.
I 100% agree with you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:02):
I need to drink some vibrant.
Last time I ate McDonald's I hadI pooping.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:08):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:09):
That's I'm cutting that up.
That's just for you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:14):
Next one.
Facing the giants.
Looks like it's a footballmovie.
And the blind side.
I love me the blind side too.
Ooh, this one's gonna bedifficult also.
And Miracle or The Mighty Ducks?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:33):
Oh no, you did not.
Not in the first round.
First round.
That's actually really difficultfor me.
That like I'm I mean, one is astaple of my childhood that I
could watch over and over andover again and love to watch.
And the other one is just one ofthe best sports movies.
One of the best sports moviesever made.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:56):
How about one of the best sports stories ever?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:58):
Oh, a hundred percent.
The USA on Ice, Miracle, Miracleon Ice, 1980.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:05):
Yep.
Lots of guys from Minnesota,lots of guys in Boston.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:08):
Boston, Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:10):
Mighty Ducks based in Minneapolis.
Emilio Esteves, Joshua Jackson.
Quack.

unknown (01:01:17):
Quack.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:17):
Quack.
Quack quack quack quack, Mr.
Ducksworth.
Quack, quack, quack, quack, Mr.
Ducksworth.
Man.
Again.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:26):
Again.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:28):
I have to go with Miracle.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:30):
I agree.
I agree.
I was leaning that way.
I was just that'll get himgoing, don't you think?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:36):
I I just I can't.
Well, this one's easy.
Sandlot or Sandlot 2?
Sandlot.
Oh, next one.
The Rookie.
That's with Dennis Quaid, who'sthe baseball coach.
Yep.
And bench warmers.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:53):
Like the comedy bench warmers?
The baseball movie.
The rookie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:00):
I agree.
I like it.
You can't put bench warmersthere.
Rocky II or Rocky Four?

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:11):
It doesn't matter to me.
They're both even numbers.
I'm doing Rocky II.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:15):
Warrior or the Karate Kid?
I still gotta go with Warrior.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:21):
I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:21):
I agree.
Blind Side or Miracle?
Fun fact, both based on tri realevents.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:31):
Miracle takes blind side in that.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:34):
Ooh, two baseball movies.
The Sandlot or The Rookie?

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:38):
The Sandlot or me.
Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:42):
You're killing me, Smalls.
Rocky too or Warrior?
Warrior.
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:49):
I I I'm not a huge Rocky guy.
Oh man.
I'm not a huge Rocky guy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:56):
So I picked Warrior for you because I feel nice.
Next one.
Now that we got that out of theway.
And watch that and gave megoosebumps.
Miracle or the Sandlot?
Miracle.
Alright, so we have.

(01:03:20):
We have in our semifinal here.
Warrior or Miracle?
Yeah.
Miracle.
That's what I'm thinking.
So other side of the bracket, tostart it off.
God shit.
Damn it.
Two of my favorite basketballmovies.

(01:03:40):
Glory Road or Space Jam.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:42):
Hmm, you know which one I'm picking.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:45):
But Glory Road's a real story.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:47):
I don't care.
Space Jam was real.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:49):
No, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:49):
Yeah, aliens came and they played the Looney Tunes
in a basketball game.
They were gonna build ToonMountain on Mars.
Fine, I'll give it to you.
I have the fucking thingsliterally on my shelf right over
there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:06):
The Pistol Pete movie called The Pistol or Coach
Carter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:14):
I don't think I've seen Pistol Pete.
Coach Carter was good.
Coach Carter was really good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:19):
Happy Gilmore or the greatest game ever played?

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:23):
Ooh, well.
I think from a socialstandpoint, Happy Gilmore.
Okay.
From a golf standpoint, probablythe greatest game ever played,
but from a from entertainmentstandpoint.
It's happy Happy Gilmore by far.
This one's gonna hurt.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:40):
Waterboy or the longest yard, Adam Sandler.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:43):
Oh well, for me it's Waterboy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:46):
Yeah.
This one's really gonna hurt.
Really bad.
Like you can't even put thesetwo movies against each other in
the first round.
Remember the Titans or FridayNight Lights.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:57):
Oh my god.
I knew as soon as you said that,I knew which two movies it was
gonna be.
I mean, if we're doing afootball bracket, that's the
finals right there.
Yeah.
If we're doing football movies,that is the finals.

(01:05:20):
Because both of them arephenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:23):
Honestly, it's hard.
It's really hard to argue eitherway.
Me personally, I liked the TVshow Friday Night Lights more
than more than the movie.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:34):
But I love both of those.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:36):
I love them too.
I'd actually just watchedRemember the Titans the other
night.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:40):
It's the football thing.
You know, it re we relate to it,and you know, you go through it
with your team, and that's bothof those are about the ins and
outs of playing football highschool football.
I mean, oh that's such adifficult choice.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:58):
Football is fun.
Football is fun.
Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:01):
Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:02):
Football is fun.
Remember the Titans.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:10):
That's I was gonna lean towards that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:14):
Remember the Titans.
I was leaning toward Invincibleor the game plan?

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:23):
Invincible.
From a movie standpoint.
I'd have to say invincible.

unknown (01:06:30):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:32):
Agree to disagree.
What's what's your argument forthe game plan?
The rock.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:37):
That's it?
Cool runnings or kicking andscreaming?
Oh cool runnings, man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:45):
Hey, you wanna kiss my egg?
Senko, what you smoking, man?
You dead, man.
I need smoking.
I'm breathing.
I'm breathing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:56):
Ooh, moneyball?
Or white men can't jump.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:01):
For me, it's moneyball.
Me too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:04):
One of, if not the greatest baseball movie.
One of.
One of.
Space Jam or Coach Carter?

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:14):
I mean, I was gonna say I could give it to Coach
Carter from a movie standpoint.
For me personally, it's SpaceJam, but from if I'm being like
an objective opinion here, it'sgonna be Coach Carter.
The story is compelling.
It's based on a real thing.

(01:07:35):
It's okay, good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:36):
We're going to Coach Carter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:38):
Ooh, the Battle of the Sandlers.
Happy Gilmore or Waterboy?

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:42):
That's difficult for me.
That's very difficult for mebecause I could quote the
Waterboy up and down.
I could quote Happy Gilmore upand down.
I love golf.
I love football.
I don't really have an argumentgoing one way or the other.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:56):
First first sports movie I ever saw in theaters was
The Waterboy.
Yeah.
With my Uncle Scott.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:01):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:02):
I uh it's Vicky Vancourt.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:06):
Vicky Vancourt.
She's the devil.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:13):
Mapa said alligators are so angry because they got
all those teeth and notoothbrush.
No toothbrush.
Medulla oblongata.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:19):
Medulla oblongata.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:22):
Water boy.
Yeah, I gotta go with them.
Okay.
Remember the Titans orInvincible?
Remember the Titans.
Yep.
Cool Runnings or Moneyball.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:37):
Again, I argue.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:40):
It depends on what you want to watch.
For me, I mean I could watchboth of them.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:44):
And for me, like cool runnings, man, but
Moneyball.
The content of Moneyball is somuch better than the content.
Based on sports alone, thecontent of Moneyball is so much
more sports-oriented than coolrunnings.
So I gotta give it to Moneyball.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:05):
I have to.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:06):
Do you know Disney came out with some bangers for
sports movies?

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:11):
We should, yeah, we should actually talk, but we
should do we should do a segmenton just like the Disney Channel
movies and the Disney like theDisney era movies.
Yeah, we could do that.
Even if it's not a bracket, justtalk about them.
Just like you pick five and Ipick five, and we go through why
we picked our five just from ournext episode.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:34):
Yeah.
We're gonna do that nextweekend.
For sure.
I like that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:38):
Uh next two, Coach Carter or The Water Boy?

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:45):
They're two completely different movies.
That's so hard.
They're two completely differentmovies.
That is so hard for me.
That's like me choosing whetherI like pizza or spaghetti more.
They're two completely differentfoods.
Although they are both Italian.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:02):
So if I'm scrolling through the TV and I see that
Coach Carter is on and Waterboyis on, which one am I picking to
watch?

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:16):
I'm probably watching Waterboy.
But I could be in the mood forCoach Carter.
That's the thing.
It's so complicated because yougotta be like, well, I mean, is
it basketball season or is itfootball season?
Do I want to laugh a lot or do Iwant to watch something that's
actually got some content?
The Waterboy is just a bunch ofstupid, like, yes, it's the

(01:10:38):
story of the mud dogs making itto the bourbon bowl.
You can do it, you can do it!

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:44):
But oh, we suck again!

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:53):
I'm just picking a movie personally that I like
more.
You know?
I have to go coach Carter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:09):
I can concede that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:10):
I have to remember the Titans or Moneyball?

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:18):
I Titans.
Gotta give it to the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:20):
Me too.
So then our final in this sideof the brackets, Coach Carter or
Remember the Titans.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:27):
And I'm giving it to the Titans.
I am too.
And I knew that from thebeginning.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:31):
I kinda did too.
You could you kind of could seethat one coming with that.
Yeah.
See, and for me, like thecontent of the movie, obviously,
this is also a Disney movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:41):
I might watch that tonight after this.
I might watch Remember theTitans too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:45):
So, fun fact right now, both of the movies that we
have in the finals, Miracle andRemember the Titans, are both
Disney.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:55):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:57):
So, like I said, the amount of good sports movies
that Disney has made or Disneyhas been a part of, not only
these two, the Mighty Ducksmovies, I believe there was a
couple other ones in here thatwere also from the Disney kind
of umbrella.
And yes, they're corny.

(01:12:18):
Yes, they're not, you know.
I'm sure her I actually I knowfor a fact that her brooks
didn't talk exactly like he didin the America movie.
He was like a motherfucker and acocksucker, and he was swearing
up and down.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:31):
Well, he was from Evelith.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:33):
Hearing, yeah, and hearing hearing from people what
he was actually like as a humanbeing in his vocabulary was
nothing like it was in themovie.
Okay.
And I I'm sure a lot of peopleup here where we're from know
that.
So let's let's put that outthere for and a football coach
from the South, you candefinitely get almost guarantee

(01:12:55):
that he didn't talk like Denzeldid in that movie.
Now, there is another goodpoint, two of the leading guys
in these movies, Herb Brooks wasplayed by Kurt Russell, one of
the biggest actors of the timeof the movie coming out.
And then remember the Titans wasDenzel Washington, also one of
the biggest actors ever.
Not to mention Ryan Hurst was inthat movie, Wood Harris was in

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that movie, Bill Paxton was inthat movie, a young Hayden
Penetier was in that movie.
Bill Paxton.
I mean, there was a lot of thathis name?
Bill Paxton.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:27):
No, no.
It's the other guy.
Not Bill Paxton.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:31):
Who played Yoast?

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:32):
Yep, that's I know who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:40):
Will Patton.
Will Patton.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:42):
That was kind of close.
But like there's a lot of bignames in that movie, and then
you look at the Miracle movie,and there was Kurt Russell, and
then there was a bunch of guysthat were hockey players that
they made into actors.
Yep.
So those two movies have alasting impression on me from

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when we were younger in highschool, in middle school.
So you could pick either one ofthem here, Miracle or Remember
the Titans, and you're notyou're not wrong.
No.
Like you're just you're not.
You're gonna have your hockeyfans picking Miracle, you're
gonna have your football fanspicking Remember the Titans, you
know, you're you're gonna haveyour Homers from the Iron Range

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picking a miracle because of allthe guys that were from around
here and the coach from up here.
So I for me, the speeches in themovie and the way that they ran
to Gettysburg, and you know,well, it remember the Titans had
Ryan Gosling, a young RyanGosling.
They had a young Ethan SupleySupply.

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They had Supley Supply.
The dude that played in Scrubsfor so long.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:53):
Yeah, I just looked at his name.
Yeah, I just looked at his nameand I can't remember.
Phase on.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:58):
Something phase on.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:59):
So I mean, there was a lot of young actors in that
movie, and that young HaydenPenetier, I mean, she was like
eight.
She was fucking just tiny.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:10):
She was so good in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:11):
And Ryan Hearst before he was Opie on Sons of
Anarchy.
I mean, for me personally, Iwould probably pick Remember the
Titans.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:17):
Yeah.
Not well, like exactly what yousaid.
Hockey is gonna pick Miracle,football is gonna pick Remember
the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:24):
I can't go wrong with either one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:27):
If I zoom out, it's like a win-win situation, no
matter which one wins.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:32):
So, I mean, we're gonna have some people that
listen to this that'll be like,what the fuck are these two
talking?
Well, these two don't know shitabout shit.
And that's fine.
You can say that all you want.
We really don't care.
But for me and for him, for us,for this podcast, we're picking
Remember the Titans for thechampion of our greatest sports
movie of all time, bracket.
Uh, just to go over it againquick, our semifinals were

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Warrior and Miracle.
Miracle edged out Warrior.
Warrior was another fantasticmovie, like we talked about.
The other semifinal was CoachCarter and Remember the Titans.
Now, another fun fact of this isthose four movies, three of them
were based on true events.
So maybe that's kind of asomething that we we enjoy also

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is the based on true eventsstuff.
The Sandlot.
I think if the Sandlot was inany other part of the bracket,
away from Miracle or Rememberthe Titans, that would have been
in our semifinal.
And maybe if I don't know.
What's another one that couldhave been Moneyball was almost
there, Happy Gilmore was almostthere.

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Space Jam wasn't a terriblemovie.
It's just I think it's overratedjust because of Michael Jordan
and the era that it came out in.
The second one sucked.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:48):
It's got Dotson in it.

unknown (01:16:50):
Dotson.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:51):
We got Dotson here.
Dotson! Dotson here!

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:54):
I know it's not Dotson, but he says Dotson.
So see, no one cares.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:00):
Remember the Titans is the the champion of our
greatest sports movie of alltime.
If you guys can think of anyother great sports movies,
definitely shoot us a message orcomment or whatever you want to
do.
I'm sure there's way more sportsmovies out there that we didn't
even cover that weren't in thisbracket.
Oh yeah.

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Off the top of my head, I can'treally think of any, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:24):
The replacements.
Oh, yeah, replacement.
Any given Sunday.
Any given Sunday.
Two for the money.
Major League.
Major League.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:30):
The Rookie.
Love of the Game, Field ofDreams.
What's another one?
There's gotta be more footballones.
Bull Durham for baseball, too.
That wasn't in here.
Hoosiers wasn't in here.
Above the Rim.

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He got game, love andbasketball.
I mean, there's there theprogram is one of my favorite
football movies.
So there are there are quite afew, actually, now that I think
about it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:00):
Yeah, you think about it for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:02):
There's a bunch, but and we'll we're gonna next week
what we're gonna do, and we'llprobably start the process here
once we end the recording.
We're gonna do a top five DisneyDisney slash Disney Channel
movies.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:20):
Are we gonna restrict that to sports movies
or are we just gonna No, we canjust do Disney Disney movies,
Disney real Disney movies.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:28):
So live action Disney movies.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:31):
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:33):
Not Disney Channel movies.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:35):
Not ri not restricted.
You can include Disney Channelmovies, man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:39):
Disney channel or Disney live action movies.
Now I'm gonna say right now thatis gonna take out your most
recent ones like Beauty and theBeast, yes, Lilo and Stitch,
those ones.
Yes.
So we're gonna take those out.
We're just gonna go witheverything else.
So next week, instead of abracket or tears or um blind

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rankings, we're gonna do thatfor for this portion of the
show.
If you have any if you want toshout out any or you want to
give us any sort of ideas, shootus a message, give us give us
some content there.
That'd be awesome.
Uh, don't forget to log in andcheck us out with that next
week.
Also, we'll talk about othersports stuff going on.

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I know we'll probably touch onthe Vikings game after, since
we're gonna be sitting here.
I'll talk about my first week ofbasketball as a junior varsity
coach for the girls.
Probably talk about what'scoming up for Friendsgiving,
since that's gonna be our nextholiday here coming up as
Thanksgiving.
Could probably talk about ourfavorite Thanksgiving food,
because I love Thanksgivingfood.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:43):
Oh, yeah.

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