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Pastor Keith Bradley, Heirs Christian Center Church in Charlotte, North Carolina is a dynamic leader with a compelling story, joins us to uncover the profound intersection of faith and purpose. From his early days in Newark, New Jersey, where he navigated the challenges of foster care and his mother's mental health struggles, to becoming a beacon of spiritual guidance for athletes at Ohio State University, Pastor Bradley's journey is nothing short of inspiring. Discover how his passion for sports and personal resilience fueled his commitment to ministry, shaping the lives of countless individuals and families in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Hear firsthand about the pivotal moments that transformed Pastor Bradley's life, notably his work in juvenile corrections, which ignited a lifelong dedication to serving youth through faith. His extraordinary story takes us through his commitment to celibacy until marriage and distancing from secular influences, leading to impactful ministry on college campuses through Inside Stuff Campus Ministry. Through these initiatives, Pastor Bradley highlights the power of mentorship and spiritual growth, demonstrating how they cultivate personal and community development.
As we wrap up our conversation, we explore the themes of legacy and personal growth through the lens of faith. Pastor Bradley passionately speaks about leaving a "faith file" rich with values and experiences for future generations, urging listeners to embrace their unique identities and purposefully impact the world around them. Uncover how embodying the traits of a 'baller' can propel you toward achieving both personal and spiritual milestones, inspiring you to build a lasting legacy that resonates beyond your lifetime.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
So the reality is, whether you're young or old,
we're all at the same core.
So, in other words, like me andyou are just older, young
people.
Yeah, so what happens is theHoly Spirit speaks everybody's
language.
So if you're yielding to theHoly Spirit, he's communicating
customized information.
So I think over the years, whatI learned is be sensitive to
(00:25):
your audience.
So if it's just about what Iknow, then I'm force feeding you
what I like to hear me saying.
Proverbs 18.2 says so.
My heart discovers itself, butwhen I'm serving, I'm trying to
hear from God what's customizedfor your design, what you need.
(00:45):
So now, that's no respect ofage.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome back to Be A Baller podcast.
I'm your host, Coach Tim Brown.
Today we have an amazing guestjoining us, Pastor Keith Bradley
.
Pastor Keith Bradley is formerassociate pastor of Columbus
Christian Center and now ispastor of Harris Ministry in
Charlotte, North Carolina, Alongwith his lovely wife, Melanie
Bradley.
Pastor Bradley has a true loveof sports and has mentored and
(01:17):
discipled many collegiate andprofessional athletes.
During his time in Columbus, hewas a team chaplain for the
Ohio State University footballteam and led many players to a
saving relationship with JesusChrist.
As someone who loves people,Pastor Bradley has spent many
years serving as a guidance andmentor to individuals from all
walks of life.
Let's dive into ourconversation with Pastor Bradley
(01:40):
.
Welcome to Be A Baller podcast,man.
I'm great.
It's exciting to be here.
Tim man, I'm so glad to see you.
We go way back.
We go way back.
We come a long way.
We come a long way, Come amighty long way, they're saying
church.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Huddles at the high school.
Wow, wow.
It takes me back, you know highschool married for over 30 years
(02:14):
.
There's a story about how youguys met and all that.
Can you share with the audience, this love story?
But I was dropping off a car atFaith Ministries so while I was
in the hallway no, I was in theparking lot I said, well, let
me just go in and get a secondsermon.
Sat back in the hallway theywere at Northland High School at
(02:35):
the time and I said you know,they were doing an altar for
Call to Salvation.
I said, well, let me go inthere and pray.
So I stepped in to pray.
Then he did an altar call justfor people to have prayer.
I said, well, I'm here, mightas well get some prayer, tim.
I walked up in a line and atthe time it was an auditorium,
so it was spilled out into theaisles.
(02:56):
So I went and grabbed hands.
So I'm turned sideways.
Everybody else is facingtowards the stage.
Grabbed hands, started prayingand a shock went through my arm.
Wow.
I looked up.
I saw the back of a younglady's head.
Wow.
So I know it was prayer.
But I was like I hope thisprayer hurry up and get over
with so I can see who this is.
And she turned around I said,oh man, she looks good too Right
(03:18):
.
So I went to sit down.
She goes to sit down.
Faith Ministries was a split offfrom Shiloh.
So I was like God, where didshe come from?
Did you drop her out of theceiling?
So I said what do you say tosomebody in church?
I was like you know from NewJersey.
So I was like what line Did yousay, hey, you know John 316?
(03:40):
And I just did what we wouldcall back in the day corny.
I said hey, my name is Keith,and so we started to talk.
We connected.
She walked up to me.
First things that came out ofher mouth was are you a minister
?
I was like no, I got a protryout next week, but nah.
So she spoke my future in herfirst breaths.
(04:02):
And make a long story short, weengaged.
I engaged her in five months,married her in 10, and we've
been the best of friends for thelast.
We've known each other for 32,but married for 31.
Wow, look at God.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Look what God do when you go to church.
Bro, Come on, Come on you youngfolks listening to this
broadcast.
Y'all need to get to church.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You're looking for the right one.
You want to find her in theright place.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
You need to get to church, Come on explain.
You know you mentioned you'rean East Coast guy.
Yes, sir, Newark, New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can you talk about growing up and your unique
family experience?
Yeah, so my mom and dad gotdivorced when I was maybe like I
don't know somewhere betweenone and a half or two, I don't
recall too much before three.
So I ended up with fosterparents.
So my dad, since I was a childwhen in school he got custody of
the kids because he was working, my mom was dealing with some
(04:58):
postpartum depression andeventually got into
schizophrenia.
So he gets the children and theDepartment of Youth and Family
Services, which is in New Jersey, said, ok, well, we'll hold
your child until you get settled.
What you give him?
What?
Five, six months?
He never came back and got me,wow.
(05:19):
So I stayed with foster parentsup until I was 17, reunited with
my dad when I was 14, but Ivisited him on the weekends.
But at that point I have to usea nicer word on this podcast
I'm a bitter person, I'll justput it that way.
So I'm edgy, don't trustanybody.
(05:41):
I felt like the world owed me alot.
So I had a chip on my shoulder,you know, for a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You know it sounds like you took that chip on the
athletic field.
Oh yeah, athletic court.
Can you talk about yourathletic experience?
Where is your pretty?
Good athlete back in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Pretty decent.
But because growing up withfoster parents, you don't have
that parent guiding you throughthe sports process, you know,
just guiding you how you'resupposed to evolve.
You know, just like you knowyou talk about boys won't be
boys.
Well, I didn't know how to be ayoung man, a boy, a man or
(06:19):
anything, because I had olderparents.
So I'm guessing.
So I didn't play in high schoolbecause I talked my way off of
the team because I figured theyalready had older parents.
So I'm guessing.
So I didn't play in high schoolbecause I talked my way off of
the team because I figured theyalready had their team.
So when I didn't try out, thecoach was like why'd you leave?
I said well, I figured youalready had your team.
He's like yes, you were a partof it.
(06:39):
So I ended up walking on incollege, went through a process
there because again, I'mbattling through low self-esteem
so finally I cracked the lineup, played in college, went to the
Division III Final Four,eventually went on to play some
semi-pro basketball buteventually got good at it.
So I thought that's what I wasgoing to be purposed to do until
(07:01):
I ran smack into the Lord.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Speaking of that, talk about that faith journey.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, let's talk about that so, interesting
enough, I always believed in God, I always acknowledged God.
But you know this it's adifference between believing in
someone, acknowledging someone,and having a true relationship
like them getting into yourheart, Right.
So I worked in juvenilecorrections after college.
Of course I worked in juvenilecorrections here in Ohio also.
(07:27):
But in working in juvenilecorrections, one day the kids no
one would take them to chapeland I was like, well, I don't go
to church, but that's not fairto them.
Chapel says nobody else to takeyou.
Because I wasn't against God, Ijust wasn't living for God Went
to chapel and for the firsttime I got a solid explanation
(07:51):
of Jesus Christ, Like up to thepoint they would say you know,
Jesus was the son of God.
I was like, well, if he's theson of God and I'm a son of God,
well, I got to go through him,you know.
So I would never talk aboutJesus, got to go through him, so
I would never talk about Jesus.
But that day they explained itin a way as if God's sitting on
a throne, I'm smothered in sin,I'm praying to God, but this big
(08:14):
you know, remember pig pen,this big soot is coming up
before God.
God's going whoa, whoa, whoa.
Who's that trying to pray?
Do me a favor, Jesus, go,cleanse him with your blood and
bring him before me.
But I'm running from the veryJesus that I need to connect to,
to wash me, to present mebefore God.
(08:35):
Once I understood thateverything was Jesus and that
started the process.
Started the process, but Ireally didn't experience the
presence of God until I was in aliving relationship and we
broke up and I moved to thisdifferent town.
I was walking down the streetone day and, like warm honey,
(08:59):
the presence of God poured on myhead and I never experienced
that.
I said, oh God, I'm so sorry.
I will never let nothing comebetween me and you, ever again
in my life.
So at that point I knew therewere two things keeping me from
God.
One number one, believe it ornot was music, All the secular
music.
And number two was sex.
(09:20):
So I said, God, I'm giving awayall my albums, I spent $500 a
week on music and I'm not havingsex till I get married.
So I stopped having sex until Imarried that lovely woman over
the next room.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know what was that inspiration for you to
answer your call to ministry in1993?
And how has that calling shapedyour work and relationship over
the years.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Interesting enough, when I came to Columbus
Christian Center I reallystarted learning the word from
the standpoint of studying andjust the reality of what the
word is and and I'd never beenpart of a church community.
First church I ever joined inmy life was Shiloh Baptist.
(10:08):
Second church I joined a yearlater was Columbus Christian
Center.
And so now I'm growing in thecommunity.
I'm learning about faithfulness, like being tied in, being a
part of the church, not justgoing and leaving, but, you know
, serving.
So I worked in juvenilecorrections at a place called
TECO.
You remember Training Instituteof Central Ohio, maximum
(10:30):
security for youth.
So I was working with youth.
And one day I had this visionand in this vision God said
you're chasing these youtharound at TECO.
There's youth chasing you atthe church.
And in the vision I turnedaround and embraced the youth
that were chasing me.
That week, me and David ForbesJr we went out to breakfast and
(10:56):
he said you know I need you topray about something working
with the youth.
I was like huh.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I said I don't need to pray about it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
God already told me that I'm supposed to work with
the youth.
The way their system was, youhad to serve for like eight
weeks and then you can preach.
Well, I had never.
You know I give testimoniesbefore, but I never preached
nothing.
So I taught on King's Kids,galatians 4, 1, and 2, which is
(11:23):
the foundation for HeirsChristus in the church.
While I was teaching I wouldflow off of the notes and a
presence would hit me.
Then I would try to rush backto the notes because that's your
safe place, right right.
And then it would leave, andthen I would just flow.
So I said, I'm just going tolet go, and it was almost like I
scored 70 points in a game.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I walked outside.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I said God, what was that?
He said that's what I designedyou to do.
Wow.
So I told Pastor Forbes, I'mnot trying to pastor a church or
anything.
I'll just be faithful from thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You spent 18, 19 years in Columbus at Columbus
Christian Center, yes, sir, andduring that time you found quite
a few programs.
You know Harris basketballprogram.
And then let's talk about youcalled it Inside Stuff Campus
Ministry at Ohio State.
Yes, sir, can you talk aboutthat?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, so Inside Stuff was campus ministry and it was
really.
I did it with Ohio State, whichwas a rare thing, and I also
did the student body at CapitalUniversity.
How Ohio State started wasAhmed Plummer, you know, played
for, of course, the Buckeyes andthe 49ers.
(12:36):
He started going to the churchand then you had Obie Stilwell
who does the broadcast.
Now he started working with meat Ohio Youth Advocate Program.
So I was trying to offer share,mentor, disciple, however you
want to call it, with both ofthem and they both asked me at
the same time hey, would you bewilling to do a Bible study at
(12:59):
Ohio State?
I meant from the standpoint ofjust growing in the Lord, obie,
because, whether it was EddieGeorge, joey Galloway, they were
sitting around talking aboutGod.
He says I can't answer all thatquestions, so would you mind
coming and doing Bible study?
We already was doing Biblestudies in high schools and
(13:20):
started at Capitol.
That's how it started, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wow.
Can you share some of thosehighlights of that experience?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It was phenomenal, of course the Buckeyes was
phenomenal just from thestandpoint.
You know, you got the guysgrowing in the Lord, right,
right, and you have differentchallenges.
The thing about growing as theyoung guys here tell you, you
always have people that areexcited about it, but then you
have the people that have athousand questions you know
(13:50):
almost like, so I call them thecontroversial people.
So I don't think these peoplemind me saying their names.
So you had Mike Wiley, who wasone of our always asked
questions.
Demetrius God rest his soulthat passed away.
Demetrius Stanley was a guy andthe thing is good guys, but you
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had to give them truth for themto believe.
You couldn't just fluff them.
And those were guys youcouldn't fluff.
But I think what stands out tome the most is two guys Ahmed,
of course, and Will Allen.
And they're buying.
Once they realize seek ye first, the kingdom of God and his
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righteousness, all things willbe added unto me.
Ahmed will come from aWisconsin game 3 o'clock in the
morning and still be at the 745service consistently.
So his athleticism, his game,his props wasn't above God.
Will came behind him.
(14:55):
I shared Ahmed's story and WillAllen did the same thing.
Same thing.
Seek him first.
The kingdom of God, consistentin church, consistent in things
to God he's.
You know, we talk to this daylike that, to this day.
Those were the biggest, two ofmany phenomenal highlights.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think once you get those guys, and others just kind
of follow.
Yeah, we always had a goodextension of you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Good core Doug Worthington I ran into him last
time I was here.
He was a core Laranitis.
He was good.
Core Doug Worthington I raninto him last time I was here.
He was a core Laranitis, he wasgood.
Core Joel Penton does LifeWise.
He was a good—those were theguys that would draw others in.
Malcolm Jenkins oh yeah, youknow they were pillars that were
(15:40):
like hey guys, we have Biblestudy, right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Right when them guys tell you we got Bible study
Right right, right, when themguys tell you, we got Bible
study.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Bible study.
Yeah, exactly, I don't knowwhere you're going, but we got
Bible study and they didn't sayI got Bible study.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
They said we got Bible study, and you talked
about this earlier.
As much as us, as seniorleaders, are trying to impart,
we can't do it without thoseunder us that they relate to
sharing that same good news.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So you and your bride moved to Charlotte to start a
Harris ministry.
First of all, can you tell theaudience what the acronym?
What does that?
What does the acronym stand for?
Which acronym?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Harris, harris.
Well, harris is not an acronym.
Years ago I did a basketballcamp.
It was an acronym.
Hooping Expression in a RoyalRap Session.
Gotcha Right.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Say it a little slower because you want to look
good.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Hooping Expression in a Royal Rap Session.
So that was the AIRS basketballprogram which you probably
remember.
Gotcha Right.
But AIRS Christian CenterChurch, foundational scripture,
galatians four, one and two.
It says, uh, there differsnothing from a child.
Um, uh, when he's young, hedifference nothing from a child.
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I said no description by heart.
It says but it's under tutorsand governors until the
appointed time of the father,right?
So it's saying that we all havea preparation for purpose, but
we have to go through ourprocess and then we receive our
inheritance as an heir.
But while we're young we'retreated even though we're heirs
(17:18):
to the throne.
We're treated almost aschildren in our teaching and
training, under tutors andgovernors.
So that's the foundation of ourministry is equipping heirs for
the kingdom of God.
So, preparation for purpose, asI was when we worked together,
it's in Charlotte now, if wejust.
It's in Charlotte now.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, one of your sayings or missions is you're
known for being a guide andproviding an ear for both the
young and the old.
So how do you bridge that gap?
Bring those together?
You know, because you have.
You've got young people.
On one end, you've been a youthpastor, you've been working
with young athletes and nowyou're a senior pastor over all
age groups.
How do you bring those?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
together.
So the reality is, whetheryou're young or old, we're all
at the same core.
So in other words, like me andyou are just older, young people
, that's good, yeah.
So what happens is the HolySpirit speaks everybody's
language.
So if you're yielding to theHoly Spirit, he's communicating
(18:19):
customized information.
So I think over the years whatI learned is be sensitive to
your audience.
So if it's just about what Iknow, then I'm force feeding you
what I like to hear me saying.
You know, proverbs 18.2 says so.
My heart discovers itself.
But when I'm serving, I'mtrying to hear from God what's
(18:44):
customized for your design, whatyou need.
So now, that's no respect ofage, because it's what you need
at the time.
And the Holy Spirit knows whatyou need and if I yield, he's
going to give you what you need.
So it's been refreshing, youknow, even as our church, from
the nine-year-old to the 90.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Amen, you know.
As you look back on yourjourney in ministry, what advice
would you give to young pastorson those who are just starting
out in their own callings?
What advice would you give toyoung pastors on those who just
starting out in their owncallings.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What advice would you give?
My advice would be never stopserving, you know, because I
think every level of leadershipis a greater level of service.
So if you, you know, as youstart, if you maintain the heart
of a servant, again, peoplealways gravitate because they're
going to get the meal from howyou're submitted to God.
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But if you get to a point whenyou get caught up in self and
it's about people serving you,you're going to lose sight of
what they need.
So now they can't feed on yourdiet.
They have to feed on theircustomized diet, that's good,
that's good.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know, this is a legacy podcast.
Yes, yes, it's about being andit's about building a lifelong
legacy.
What does that word legacy meanto you?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Legacy is everything.
Everything in you benefitsothers, and what's in you lives
beyond you.
And so I just taught on Legacyon Sunday at Emerging Ministries
, and that's what I was talkingabout.
(20:32):
I said you know, what legacyare we leaving for the people
behind us?
What legacy are we leaving forthe people behind us?
And if we're so busy justconsuming our pleasures at the
expense of other people'spurpose, we're not fulfilling
legacy.
What you, what you said aboutthis podcast, is what God put us
here, for.
Everything in us is toestablish a legacy.
(20:53):
We still talk about Jesusbecause of legacy.
We still talk about Jesusbecause of legacy.
We still talk about Abrahambecause of legacy.
We still talk about Davidbecause of legacy.
When we pass away, will theystill be talking about us?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Wow, Good that messed me up with that one.
I was thinking really, what arethey going to say about me?
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know you can give a child money, Right.
But if your legacy to them isheartache, pain and despair,
they can't even see the moneyyou left, Right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, Sometimes we talk about I always talk to
young people and my family aswell about a faith file, Faith,
fire, Faith file File.
I love it, Faith file.
We want to leave a faith filefor them so they can look back,
open up that file and they cansee what God has done, not just
through our lives, but just whatyou said, through my mother,
through my grandmother.
(21:53):
You know that's good Throughour lives, Even through their
own lives.
You know through our lives,Even through their own lives.
You know, Right, they get tothe point.
They know that was definitelythe Lord.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, yes yes, they walked out on faith.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Our son's an assistant general manager with
the Indiana Pacers so his faithfile includes the fact he has an
MBA in accounting.
So he's working at a bank fifthor third bank doing well, you
know workers were up to theladder.
He quit the job, stepped out onfaith because he wanted to
pursue this dream, drove out toVegas, you know, to be an intern
living in an apartment withfour guys.
(22:24):
You know not getting paid nowNot getting paid, did about two
internships and so now he's in aposition.
You know where he has an actualjob in the league, but anyway,
that's part of his faith file.
You know he had to step out onfaith and those are things that
you want, when you talk aboutlegacy, like you said, to
remember.
Those are things you wantpeople to remember.
I remember this guy.
He was at K-State, you know hedidn't even play college
(22:44):
basketball and here he is in theNBA.
You know in the front office,but that's part of that.
Lord, as we say Exactly, youknow things come and go, but the
Word of God remains forever.
It's always going to be there.
I love that.
Speaking of that, you know I'mgoing to step another step now
(23:04):
writing a book.
Yes, rondé Booz, with yourselfFinding you in the Midst of them
, a Guide to Becoming.
Can you kind of talk to usabout this book, the inspiration
behind and the purpose and thegoal of writing this book?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
about this book, the inspiration behind, and the
purpose and the goal of writingthis book, so interesting enough
, I started working on that bookin 2005.
But because of you know,eventually realizing we had the
pastor set it down, we go out toCharlotte, picked it back up,
set it down and we started thechurch.
But the rendezvous withyourself is, a lot of times we
try to fly with other people'swings, we try to fill other
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people's designs.
I know, in your book, boysWon't Be Boys.
You know, you really challengeeverybody.
Hey, like these young men havea customized design to be solid
young men and boys, solid youngmen and boys.
(24:01):
But if you start to force yourdesign on them, your
expectations on them, now you'renot giving them the freedom to
evolve.
And so one of the things abouteven the angle that you are
approaching is they wake up andthey're forced to conform, as
opposed to being allowed totransform.
And the thing about arendezvous with yourself it's,
you know, a lot of times we liveit with mistaken identity, and
(24:24):
the devil loves that becausehe'll give you an identity.
And so you have a lot of kids.
They're on drugs, they'refrustrated, they're falling to
peer pressure because they don'thave the strength to maintain
and keep evolving in who theyare.
Like you can run a race.
(24:45):
I was sharing this with anathlete just the other day I
said you can run a race.
You could be faster than themand slower than you.
You can win the race but notrun at your pace.
You could have broke a recordif you decided to empty out as
opposed to compare yourself tosomeone else.
(25:07):
And so when you the scripturesays in Luke 15, it says the
prodigal son came to himself, sothat means if he came to
himself, that means he wasn'twith themselves.
So the scripture says you canoppose yourself in 2 Timothy 2.
It says you have to berecovered from yourself.
Why?
Because sometimes we deceiveourselves.
(25:28):
In James, chapter one, Sometimeswe're so clouded we've lost who
we were.
In a book I talk about therewas a point we've lost who we
were.
You know, in a book I talkabout there was a point I didn't
even know how to laugh.
So I started mimicking otherpeople's laughs and I just
didn't.
Simple as not knowing how tolaugh, not knowing how to talk.
(25:50):
You know, as my son was growingup, you know he would make an
expression like Martin LutherKing, because what is he trying
to do?
He's trying to find out who amI?
My grandson said to that churchon Sunday.
He said, man, I just want toknow what I'm purposed to do and
who I am, because we can getcaught up in keeping up.
And so this book.
Whether you're young, whetheryou're old, whether you,
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especially a lot of formerathletes, when they finished
playing, their whole identitywas in what Playing.
And then now they're stuckbecause they're like now what do
I do?
Well, what do you do is thatwas a platform, that wasn't a
purpose.
You still have purpose andthere's still other platforms,
so you can continue to evolveinto your design.
(26:33):
Right, and that's the baselinefor the book, right?
Well, you got me fired up.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm glad you gave me a copy.
I can't wait to read it.
Could you share with theaudience how they can get a copy
of the book and they can touchwith you?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, so they can get it.
They can pick it up atKeithMLBradleycom or Amazoncom.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Good.
Well, this has been great.
Well, that's all we have timefor today.
On today's Be A Baller podcast,I want to thank our special
guest, pastor Keith Bradley, forsharing his experience in
ministry and his experience inanswering that call to ministry.
So I also want to thank him forhis commitment to not just
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empowering those that he came intouch with back at Ohio State
but continuing on to empoweringthat next generation.
You know, of leaders andministry and just good people,
just good people.
So I want to thank you for that.
Hope you enjoyed thisconversation as much as I did.
Remember.
Building a lifelong legacy isnot just about what we achieve
in life, but also how we use ourgifts and talents to make a
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Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's my pleasure, man .
It's good to connect again.
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High School.
So the reality is, whether you're young or old,
we're all at the same core.
So, in other words, like me andyou are just older, young
people.
Yeah, so what happens is theHoly Spirit speaks everybody's
language.
So if you're yielding to theHoly Spirit, he's communicating
customized information.
So I think over the years, whatI learned is be sensitive to
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your audience.
So if it's just about what Iknow, then I'm force feeding you
what I like to hear me saying.
Proverbs 18.2 says so.
My heart discovers itself, butwhen I'm serving, I'm trying to
hear from God what's customizedfor your design, what you need.
(00:45):
So now, that's no respect ofage.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome back to Be A Baller podcast.
I'm your host, Coach Tim Brown.
Today we have an amazing guestjoining us, Pastor Keith Bradley
.
Pastor Keith Bradley is formerassociate pastor of Columbus
Christian Center and now ispastor of Harris Ministry in
Charlotte, North Carolina, Alongwith his lovely wife, Melanie
Bradley.
Pastor Bradley has a true loveof sports and has mentored and
(01:17):
discipled many collegiate andprofessional athletes.
During his time in Columbus, hewas a team chaplain for the
Ohio State University footballteam and led many players to a
saving relationship with JesusChrist.
As someone who loves people,Pastor Bradley has spent many
years serving as a guidance andmentor to individuals from all
walks of life.
Let's dive into ourconversation with Pastor Bradley
(01:40):
.
Welcome to Be A Baller podcast,man.
I'm great.
It's exciting to be here.
Tim man, I'm so glad to see you.
We go way back.
We go way back.
We come a long way.
We come a long way, Come amighty long way, they're saying
church.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Huddles at the high school.
Wow, wow.
It takes me back, you know highschool married for over 30 years
(02:14):
.
There's a story about how youguys met and all that.
Can you share with the audience, this love story?
But I was dropping off a car atFaith Ministries so while I was
in the hallway no, I was in theparking lot I said, well, let
me just go in and get a secondsermon.
Sat back in the hallway theywere at Northland High School at
(02:35):
the time and I said you know,they were doing an altar for
Call to Salvation.
I said, well, let me go inthere and pray.
So I stepped in to pray.
Then he did an altar call justfor people to have prayer.
I said, well, I'm here, mightas well get some prayer, tim.
I walked up in a line and atthe time it was an auditorium,
so it was spilled out into theaisles.
(02:56):
So I went and grabbed hands.
So I'm turned sideways.
Everybody else is facingtowards the stage.
Grabbed hands, started prayingand a shock went through my arm.
Wow.
I looked up.
I saw the back of a younglady's head.
Wow.
So I know it was prayer.
But I was like I hope thisprayer hurry up and get over
with so I can see who this is.
And she turned around I said,oh man, she looks good too Right
(03:18):
.
So I went to sit down.
She goes to sit down.
Faith Ministries was a split offfrom Shiloh.
So I was like God, where didshe come from?
Did you drop her out of theceiling?
So I said what do you say tosomebody in church?
I was like you know from NewJersey.
So I was like what line Did yousay, hey, you know John 316?
(03:40):
And I just did what we wouldcall back in the day corny.
I said hey, my name is Keith,and so we started to talk.
We connected.
She walked up to me.
First things that came out ofher mouth was are you a minister
?
I was like no, I got a protryout next week, but nah.
So she spoke my future in herfirst breaths.
(04:02):
And make a long story short, weengaged.
I engaged her in five months,married her in 10, and we've
been the best of friends for thelast.
We've known each other for 32,but married for 31.
Wow, look at God.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Look what God do when you go to church.
Bro, Come on, Come on you youngfolks listening to this
broadcast.
Y'all need to get to church.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You're looking for the right one.
You want to find her in theright place.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
You need to get to church, Come on explain.
You know you mentioned you'rean East Coast guy.
Yes, sir, Newark, New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can you talk about growing up and your unique
family experience?
Yeah, so my mom and dad gotdivorced when I was maybe like I
don't know somewhere betweenone and a half or two, I don't
recall too much before three.
So I ended up with fosterparents.
So my dad, since I was a childwhen in school he got custody of
the kids because he was working, my mom was dealing with some
(04:58):
postpartum depression andeventually got into
schizophrenia.
So he gets the children and theDepartment of Youth and Family
Services, which is in New Jersey, said, ok, well, we'll hold
your child until you get settled.
What you give him?
What?
Five, six months?
He never came back and got me,wow.
(05:19):
So I stayed with foster parentsup until I was 17, reunited with
my dad when I was 14, but Ivisited him on the weekends.
But at that point I have to usea nicer word on this podcast
I'm a bitter person, I'll justput it that way.
So I'm edgy, don't trustanybody.
(05:41):
I felt like the world owed me alot.
So I had a chip on my shoulder,you know, for a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You know it sounds like you took that chip on the
athletic field.
Oh yeah, athletic court.
Can you talk about yourathletic experience?
Where is your pretty?
Good athlete back in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Pretty decent.
But because growing up withfoster parents, you don't have
that parent guiding you throughthe sports process, you know,
just guiding you how you'resupposed to evolve.
You know, just like you knowyou talk about boys won't be
boys.
Well, I didn't know how to be ayoung man, a boy, a man or
(06:19):
anything, because I had olderparents.
So I'm guessing.
So I didn't play in high schoolbecause I talked my way off of
the team because I figured theyalready had older parents.
So I'm guessing.
So I didn't play in high schoolbecause I talked my way off of
the team because I figured theyalready had their team.
So when I didn't try out, thecoach was like why'd you leave?
I said well, I figured youalready had your team.
He's like yes, you were a partof it.
(06:39):
So I ended up walking on incollege, went through a process
there because again, I'mbattling through low self-esteem
so finally I cracked the lineup, played in college, went to the
Division III Final Four,eventually went on to play some
semi-pro basketball buteventually got good at it.
So I thought that's what I wasgoing to be purposed to do until
(07:01):
I ran smack into the Lord.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Speaking of that, talk about that faith journey.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, let's talk about that so, interesting
enough, I always believed in God, I always acknowledged God.
But you know this it's adifference between believing in
someone, acknowledging someone,and having a true relationship
like them getting into yourheart, Right.
So I worked in juvenilecorrections after college.
Of course I worked in juvenilecorrections here in Ohio also.
(07:27):
But in working in juvenilecorrections, one day the kids no
one would take them to chapeland I was like, well, I don't go
to church, but that's not fairto them.
Chapel says nobody else to takeyou.
Because I wasn't against God, Ijust wasn't living for God Went
to chapel and for the firsttime I got a solid explanation
(07:51):
of Jesus Christ, Like up to thepoint they would say you know,
Jesus was the son of God.
I was like, well, if he's theson of God and I'm a son of God,
well, I got to go through him,you know.
So I would never talk aboutJesus, got to go through him, so
I would never talk about Jesus.
But that day they explained itin a way as if God's sitting on
a throne, I'm smothered in sin,I'm praying to God, but this big
(08:14):
you know, remember pig pen,this big soot is coming up
before God.
God's going whoa, whoa, whoa.
Who's that trying to pray?
Do me a favor, Jesus, go,cleanse him with your blood and
bring him before me.
But I'm running from the veryJesus that I need to connect to,
to wash me, to present mebefore God.
(08:35):
Once I understood thateverything was Jesus and that
started the process.
Started the process, but Ireally didn't experience the
presence of God until I was in aliving relationship and we
broke up and I moved to thisdifferent town.
I was walking down the streetone day and, like warm honey,
(08:59):
the presence of God poured on myhead and I never experienced
that.
I said, oh God, I'm so sorry.
I will never let nothing comebetween me and you, ever again
in my life.
So at that point I knew therewere two things keeping me from
God.
One number one, believe it ornot was music, All the secular
music.
And number two was sex.
(09:20):
So I said, God, I'm giving awayall my albums, I spent $500 a
week on music and I'm not havingsex till I get married.
So I stopped having sex until Imarried that lovely woman over
the next room.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know what was that inspiration for you to
answer your call to ministry in1993?
And how has that calling shapedyour work and relationship over
the years.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Interesting enough, when I came to Columbus
Christian Center I reallystarted learning the word from
the standpoint of studying andjust the reality of what the
word is and and I'd never beenpart of a church community.
First church I ever joined inmy life was Shiloh Baptist.
(10:08):
Second church I joined a yearlater was Columbus Christian
Center.
And so now I'm growing in thecommunity.
I'm learning about faithfulness, like being tied in, being a
part of the church, not justgoing and leaving, but, you know
, serving.
So I worked in juvenilecorrections at a place called
TECO.
You remember Training Instituteof Central Ohio, maximum
(10:30):
security for youth.
So I was working with youth.
And one day I had this visionand in this vision God said
you're chasing these youtharound at TECO.
There's youth chasing you atthe church.
And in the vision I turnedaround and embraced the youth
that were chasing me.
That week, me and David ForbesJr we went out to breakfast and
(10:56):
he said you know I need you topray about something working
with the youth.
I was like huh.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I said I don't need to pray about it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
God already told me that I'm supposed to work with
the youth.
The way their system was, youhad to serve for like eight
weeks and then you can preach.
Well, I had never.
You know I give testimoniesbefore, but I never preached
nothing.
So I taught on King's Kids,galatians 4, 1, and 2, which is
(11:23):
the foundation for HeirsChristus in the church.
While I was teaching I wouldflow off of the notes and a
presence would hit me.
Then I would try to rush backto the notes because that's your
safe place, right right.
And then it would leave, andthen I would just flow.
So I said, I'm just going tolet go, and it was almost like I
scored 70 points in a game.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I walked outside.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I said God, what was that?
He said that's what I designedyou to do.
Wow.
So I told Pastor Forbes, I'mnot trying to pastor a church or
anything.
I'll just be faithful from thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You spent 18, 19 years in Columbus at Columbus
Christian Center, yes, sir, andduring that time you found quite
a few programs.
You know Harris basketballprogram.
And then let's talk about youcalled it Inside Stuff Campus
Ministry at Ohio State.
Yes, sir, can you talk aboutthat?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, so Inside Stuff was campus ministry and it was
really.
I did it with Ohio State, whichwas a rare thing, and I also
did the student body at CapitalUniversity.
How Ohio State started wasAhmed Plummer, you know, played
for, of course, the Buckeyes andthe 49ers.
(12:36):
He started going to the churchand then you had Obie Stilwell
who does the broadcast.
Now he started working with meat Ohio Youth Advocate Program.
So I was trying to offer share,mentor, disciple, however you
want to call it, with both ofthem and they both asked me at
the same time hey, would you bewilling to do a Bible study at
(12:59):
Ohio State?
I meant from the standpoint ofjust growing in the Lord, obie,
because, whether it was EddieGeorge, joey Galloway, they were
sitting around talking aboutGod.
He says I can't answer all thatquestions, so would you mind
coming and doing Bible study?
We already was doing Biblestudies in high schools and
(13:20):
started at Capitol.
That's how it started, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wow.
Can you share some of thosehighlights of that experience?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It was phenomenal, of course the Buckeyes was
phenomenal just from thestandpoint.
You know, you got the guysgrowing in the Lord, right,
right, and you have differentchallenges.
The thing about growing as theyoung guys here tell you, you
always have people that areexcited about it, but then you
have the people that have athousand questions you know
(13:50):
almost like, so I call them thecontroversial people.
So I don't think these peoplemind me saying their names.
So you had Mike Wiley, who wasone of our always asked
questions.
Demetrius God rest his soulthat passed away.
Demetrius Stanley was a guy andthe thing is good guys, but you
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had to give them truth for themto believe.
You couldn't just fluff them.
And those were guys youcouldn't fluff.
But I think what stands out tome the most is two guys Ahmed,
of course, and Will Allen.
And they're buying.
Once they realize seek ye first, the kingdom of God and his
(14:33):
righteousness, all things willbe added unto me.
Ahmed will come from aWisconsin game 3 o'clock in the
morning and still be at the 745service consistently.
So his athleticism, his game,his props wasn't above God.
Will came behind him.
(14:55):
I shared Ahmed's story and WillAllen did the same thing.
Same thing.
Seek him first.
The kingdom of God, consistentin church, consistent in things
to God he's.
You know, we talk to this daylike that, to this day.
Those were the biggest, two ofmany phenomenal highlights.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think once you get those guys, and others just kind
of follow.
Yeah, we always had a goodextension of you.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Good core Doug Worthington I ran into him last
time I was here.
He was a core Laranitis.
He was good.
Core Doug Worthington I raninto him last time I was here.
He was a core Laranitis, he wasgood.
Core Joel Penton does LifeWise.
He was a good—those were theguys that would draw others in.
Malcolm Jenkins oh yeah, youknow they were pillars that were
(15:40):
like hey guys, we have Biblestudy, right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Right when them guys tell you we got Bible study
Right right, right, when themguys tell you, we got Bible
study.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Bible study.
Yeah, exactly, I don't knowwhere you're going, but we got
Bible study and they didn't sayI got Bible study.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
They said we got Bible study, and you talked
about this earlier.
As much as us, as seniorleaders, are trying to impart,
we can't do it without thoseunder us that they relate to
sharing that same good news.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So you and your bride moved to Charlotte to start a
Harris ministry.
First of all, can you tell theaudience what the acronym?
What does that?
What does the acronym stand for?
Which acronym?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Harris, harris.
Well, harris is not an acronym.
Years ago I did a basketballcamp.
It was an acronym.
Hooping Expression in a RoyalRap Session.
Gotcha Right.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Say it a little slower because you want to look
good.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Hooping Expression in a Royal Rap Session.
So that was the AIRS basketballprogram which you probably
remember.
Gotcha Right.
But AIRS Christian CenterChurch, foundational scripture,
galatians four, one and two.
It says, uh, there differsnothing from a child.
Um, uh, when he's young, hedifference nothing from a child.
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I said no description by heart.
It says but it's under tutorsand governors until the
appointed time of the father,right?
So it's saying that we all havea preparation for purpose, but
we have to go through ourprocess and then we receive our
inheritance as an heir.
But while we're young we'retreated even though we're heirs
(17:18):
to the throne.
We're treated almost aschildren in our teaching and
training, under tutors andgovernors.
So that's the foundation of ourministry is equipping heirs for
the kingdom of God.
So, preparation for purpose, asI was when we worked together,
it's in Charlotte now, if wejust.
It's in Charlotte now.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, one of your sayings or missions is you're
known for being a guide andproviding an ear for both the
young and the old.
So how do you bridge that gap?
Bring those together?
You know, because you have.
You've got young people.
On one end, you've been a youthpastor, you've been working
with young athletes and nowyou're a senior pastor over all
age groups.
How do you bring those?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
together.
So the reality is, whetheryou're young or old, we're all
at the same core.
So in other words, like me andyou are just older, young people
, that's good, yeah.
So what happens is the HolySpirit speaks everybody's
language.
So if you're yielding to theHoly Spirit, he's communicating
(18:19):
customized information.
So I think over the years whatI learned is be sensitive to
your audience.
So if it's just about what Iknow, then I'm force feeding you
what I like to hear me saying.
You know, proverbs 18.2 says so.
My heart discovers itself.
But when I'm serving, I'mtrying to hear from God what's
(18:44):
customized for your design, whatyou need.
So now, that's no respect ofage, because it's what you need
at the time.
And the Holy Spirit knows whatyou need and if I yield, he's
going to give you what you need.
So it's been refreshing, youknow, even as our church, from
the nine-year-old to the 90.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Amen, you know.
As you look back on yourjourney in ministry, what advice
would you give to young pastorson those who are just starting
out in their own callings?
What advice would you give toyoung pastors on those who just
starting out in their owncallings.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What advice would you give?
My advice would be never stopserving, you know, because I
think every level of leadershipis a greater level of service.
So if you, you know, as youstart, if you maintain the heart
of a servant, again, peoplealways gravitate because they're
going to get the meal from howyou're submitted to God.
(19:41):
But if you get to a point whenyou get caught up in self and
it's about people serving you,you're going to lose sight of
what they need.
So now they can't feed on yourdiet.
They have to feed on theircustomized diet, that's good,
that's good.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know, this is a legacy podcast.
Yes, yes, it's about being andit's about building a lifelong
legacy.
What does that word legacy meanto you?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Legacy is everything.
Everything in you benefitsothers, and what's in you lives
beyond you.
And so I just taught on Legacyon Sunday at Emerging Ministries
, and that's what I was talkingabout.
(20:32):
I said you know, what legacyare we leaving for the people
behind us?
What legacy are we leaving forthe people behind us?
And if we're so busy justconsuming our pleasures at the
expense of other people'spurpose, we're not fulfilling
legacy.
What you, what you said aboutthis podcast, is what God put us
here, for.
Everything in us is toestablish a legacy.
(20:53):
We still talk about Jesusbecause of legacy.
We still talk about Jesusbecause of legacy.
We still talk about Abrahambecause of legacy.
We still talk about Davidbecause of legacy.
When we pass away, will theystill be talking about us?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Wow, Good that messed me up with that one.
I was thinking really, what arethey going to say about me?
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know you can give a child money, Right.
But if your legacy to them isheartache, pain and despair,
they can't even see the moneyyou left, Right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, Sometimes we talk about I always talk to
young people and my family aswell about a faith file, Faith,
fire, Faith file File.
I love it, Faith file.
We want to leave a faith filefor them so they can look back,
open up that file and they cansee what God has done, not just
through our lives, but just whatyou said, through my mother,
through my grandmother.
(21:53):
You know that's good Throughour lives, Even through their
own lives.
You know through our lives,Even through their own lives.
You know, Right, they get tothe point.
They know that was definitelythe Lord.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, yes yes, they walked out on faith.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Our son's an assistant general manager with
the Indiana Pacers so his faithfile includes the fact he has an
MBA in accounting.
So he's working at a bank fifthor third bank doing well, you
know workers were up to theladder.
He quit the job, stepped out onfaith because he wanted to
pursue this dream, drove out toVegas, you know, to be an intern
living in an apartment withfour guys.
(22:24):
You know not getting paid nowNot getting paid, did about two
internships and so now he's in aposition.
You know where he has an actualjob in the league, but anyway,
that's part of his faith file.
You know he had to step out onfaith and those are things that
you want, when you talk aboutlegacy, like you said, to
remember.
Those are things you wantpeople to remember.
I remember this guy.
He was at K-State, you know hedidn't even play college
(22:44):
basketball and here he is in theNBA.
You know in the front office,but that's part of that.
Lord, as we say Exactly, youknow things come and go, but the
Word of God remains forever.
It's always going to be there.
I love that.
Speaking of that, you know I'mgoing to step another step now
(23:04):
writing a book.
Yes, rondé Booz, with yourselfFinding you in the Midst of them
, a Guide to Becoming.
Can you kind of talk to usabout this book, the inspiration
behind and the purpose and thegoal of writing this book?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
about this book, the inspiration behind, and the
purpose and the goal of writingthis book, so interesting enough
, I started working on that bookin 2005.
But because of you know,eventually realizing we had the
pastor set it down, we go out toCharlotte, picked it back up,
set it down and we started thechurch.
But the rendezvous withyourself is, a lot of times we
try to fly with other people'swings, we try to fill other
(23:41):
people's designs.
I know, in your book, boysWon't Be Boys.
You know, you really challengeeverybody.
Hey, like these young men havea customized design to be solid
young men and boys, solid youngmen and boys.
(24:01):
But if you start to force yourdesign on them, your
expectations on them, now you'renot giving them the freedom to
evolve.
And so one of the things abouteven the angle that you are
approaching is they wake up andthey're forced to conform, as
opposed to being allowed totransform.
And the thing about arendezvous with yourself it's,
you know, a lot of times we liveit with mistaken identity, and
(24:24):
the devil loves that becausehe'll give you an identity.
And so you have a lot of kids.
They're on drugs, they'refrustrated, they're falling to
peer pressure because they don'thave the strength to maintain
and keep evolving in who theyare.
Like you can run a race.
(24:45):
I was sharing this with anathlete just the other day I
said you can run a race.
You could be faster than themand slower than you.
You can win the race but notrun at your pace.
You could have broke a recordif you decided to empty out as
opposed to compare yourself tosomeone else.
(25:07):
And so when you the scripturesays in Luke 15, it says the
prodigal son came to himself, sothat means if he came to
himself, that means he wasn'twith themselves.
So the scripture says you canoppose yourself in 2 Timothy 2.
It says you have to berecovered from yourself.
Why?
Because sometimes we deceiveourselves.
(25:28):
In James, chapter one, Sometimeswe're so clouded we've lost who
we were.
In a book I talk about therewas a point we've lost who we
were.
You know, in a book I talkabout there was a point I didn't
even know how to laugh.
So I started mimicking otherpeople's laughs and I just
didn't.
Simple as not knowing how tolaugh, not knowing how to talk.
(25:50):
You know, as my son was growingup, you know he would make an
expression like Martin LutherKing, because what is he trying
to do?
He's trying to find out who amI?
My grandson said to that churchon Sunday.
He said, man, I just want toknow what I'm purposed to do and
who I am, because we can getcaught up in keeping up.
And so this book.
Whether you're young, whetheryou're old, whether you,
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especially a lot of formerathletes, when they finished
playing, their whole identitywas in what Playing.
And then now they're stuckbecause they're like now what do
I do?
Well, what do you do is thatwas a platform, that wasn't a
purpose.
You still have purpose andthere's still other platforms,
so you can continue to evolveinto your design.
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Right, and that's the baselinefor the book, right?
Well, you got me fired up.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm glad you gave me a copy.
I can't wait to read it.
Could you share with theaudience how they can get a copy
of the book and they can touchwith you?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, so they can get it.
They can pick it up atKeithMLBradleycom or Amazoncom.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Good.
Well, this has been great.
Well, that's all we have timefor today.
On today's Be A Baller podcast,I want to thank our special
guest, pastor Keith Bradley, forsharing his experience in
ministry and his experience inanswering that call to ministry.
So I also want to thank him forhis commitment to not just
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empowering those that he came intouch with back at Ohio State
but continuing on to empoweringthat next generation.
You know, of leaders andministry and just good people,
just good people.
So I want to thank you for that.
Hope you enjoyed thisconversation as much as I did.
Remember.
Building a lifelong legacy isnot just about what we achieve
in life, but also how we use ourgifts and talents to make a
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positive impact on the worldaround us.
And don't forget to subscribeand listen to Be A Baller
podcast so you can stay up todate with all our latest
episodes.
Our podcast guests are alwayswilling to share wisdom and
inspire others to build a legacythat lasts.
Pastor Bradley, thank you forbeing on the show.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's my pleasure, man .
It's good to connect again.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I appreciate you being here, If you enjoyed our
show, please share this podcastwith family and friends.
Be a Baller podcast isavailable on all major podcast
stations.
Be sure to come back next weekas we continue to discuss on how
to build a lifelong legacy.
Until then, don't forget to bea baller.
This podcast was created byCoach Tim Brown and produced and
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edited by the video productionclass of Worthington Christian
High School.
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