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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I like to go back to
this idea of abiding abiding in
the vine.
I think that's to me such apowerful image of what it means
to truly follow after Jesus, tobe connected to the vine, to get
your life from the vine, to besurrendered to the vine.
That takes humility.
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It also takes this desire toput Jesus ahead of you, put him
on the throne of your heart andto abdicate that, which is not
necessarily something we want todo.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Be A
Baller where we're building a
lifelong legacy for our families, communities and the world.
Your host, coach Tim Brown, isexcited for you to join him on
this journey.
On each episode, we'll betalking about how to be
intentional about building alasting legacy.
We'll be exploring what itmeans to leave a mark that goes
beyond just our lives, but has apositive impact on those around
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us and even generations to come.
So if you're looking forinspiration, guidance and
practical tips on how to build alasting legacy that makes a
difference, then you're in theright place.
So grab your earbuds, getcomfortable and let's dive in.
It's time to be a baller.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Thank you for joining
me today on Be A Baller Podcast
Today as we continue our serieson fatherhood during this month
of June about passing the torchto the next generation.
Our guest today is my goodfriend, scott Mallory.
Scott is blessed to be a partof the Mallory Nation of Men who
love the Lord and they lovefootball.
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All kinds of football rootsthrough that.
We'll get into that in a littlebit.
Scott and his wife Christinehave three wonderful sons, adult
sons.
Scott is involved in Christianministry and co-founder of Fort
Columbus and Pray for Ohio.
Scott, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thanks, coach Brown,
great to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, I want to jump
right in and you know this is a
fatherhood series aboutgenerations of men.
Can you talk about the Malloryname and the Christian value
lessons you learned from yourdad and uncles and brothers?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, I almost
have to go back to my
grandfather really, and I am inthat, my generation.
I'm in that interesting placeright now where I can look back
two generations to mygrandfather and now look forward
two generations to my son.
Wow, grandson, sorry so, fivegenerations, five generations of
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Mallory's, and I think mygrandfather really set the bar
high when he called us toaccountability and I really
think that then my father and myuncles, they lived that call of
accountability and of coursethat was following Christ, that
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was working hard, that was beinga man of integrity, being a man
of courage, standing whenthat's called for and honoring
the legacy of family and nameand country.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, as you
think about your role now as
being a father of three sons,how do you think being
intentional about legacy hasimpacted their life so far?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, I think a
couple of things, tim.
One is that they had theprivilege of watching my dad
live.
They had the privilege ofwatching my dad live and even,
to a degree, my grandfather, whowas alive when my oldest was
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around.
So, and my uncles, they've seenthat life, lived to those
values and so well modeled thatI think in a sense you know it's
caught, not taught.
In a sense they lived throughthat and that also set the bar
for me as well to live to thatstandard and by God's grace, I
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hope I'm doing that, amen, amen.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You know, as we think
about the Mallory name, we
think about football and faith.
Can you talk about how youwatch even yourself being
involved in football, your sonbeing involved in football, your
dad, uncles and all that?
How did you see them balancingthat football and faith?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, football is
funny.
It was always kind of a commonground for our family in a sense
that we came around togetheraround that and that then, of
course, rolled into a sharedfaith that we've had, you know,
across my cousins and my family,my father and brothers and
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uncles.
We had a common language.
The football connected usacross geography and in
generations as well, and I thinkthat also just created a place
for us to build deeprelationships.
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As a result of that and throughthat, then our shared faith
also helped to amplify it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You talk about faith
and I know you guys had faith
and love of country.
I know you guys had a big wasit 4th of July celebration.
Yeah, can you talk about thatbig 4th of July when everybody
came together?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah.
4th of July was always for us,the time when our family
gathered.
Time when our family gathered.
My uncle, who was the oldest ofthree, was a Division I
football coach and the onlymonth that he really got off was
July.
So that was a time when ourfamily came together, a family.
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My grandfather and grandmotherset the bar.
They called us together, theycalled my, my father and my
uncles together and of course,we came um and it was a time
where, uh, we were together, uh,shared experiences, shared life
.
I mean, we, we grew up together.
In a sense, with that as well,my, my father, his brothers were
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very intentional every yearabout bringing us together, and
so as we celebrated our family,we celebrated our country, and
that kind of brought the twotogether.
And that continues even today.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Wow, you know, I know
you're a strong man of faith.
Can you talk about your faithpersonal journey?
You know when God became realfor you?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, personal
journey.
You know when God became realfor you?
Yeah, I think journey isprobably the best word for it.
I met Jesus as a young man.
My parents came to faithprobably in their late 30s an
active faith in their late 30s.
So I met Jesus probably when Iwas eight or nine years old,
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didn't really get to know Jesusuntil I was in my 20s and at
that time I started to make adecision, or consciously made a
decision, to truly follow him.
I knew the rules, read thecommandments, but I hadn't taken
them into my life and said youknow what I want?
To be a man who's followingafter Jesus, following his
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footsteps.
And so that reallyfundamentally changed my faith.
And it changed also just how Imy worldview, how I really
looked at what it meant to be aman of God.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You know, as you've
gone a step further now in this
faith journey, being theco-founder of One Columbus and
Pray for Ohio I mean Pray forOhio and Columbus.
What's the vision behind thoseministries?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I think you know it
started out very simply actually
as half a dozen people comingtogether and praying for revival
in Columbus and in central Ohio, and that started now, probably
about 14 years ago, and it'sgrown from that.
But the idea is really toactivate the body of Christ to
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come together as one communityto love, serve our city, but
also bear witness to our hope,the gospel of Jesus Christ, to
make it real.
I think I read that Tim Kelleronce said that disunity in the
church breeds atheism in theworld.
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And if I'm looking at thechurch and the church is all
broken up and going after eachother, why would I want to be a
part of that?
And so we felt very stronglythat it's time for the church to
come together or serve togetherand to love each other.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That's good.
You know I've watched you beintentional about passing that
torch.
You know, watching your sonsit's that next generation.
Can you elaborate on what thatmeans in practical terms?
What are some things you'vedone to make sure that those
young men were grounded, youknow, in the word and their
faith?
And just being protecting thatMallory name I just go back to
that name.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, I think, early
on, and again you know, I had a
father and a grandfather who Iwas following.
So in truth, I can look backnow, as I'm almost 60, and say
what a blessing that was,because I was following men of
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faith.
So modeling that wasessentially just giving it to my
sons, um, in a very similar way.
But I I think probably thegreatest gift that you can give
your children is to love yourwife.
Love your wife um, honor yourwife and and and and uh, stay
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committed and faithful to her sothat, I think, is the
centerpiece of family.
And then, being a man of yourword, your children look up to
the integrity that you set andbeing present to that.
And then I think the finalpiece is to humbly seek after
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your Lord and and put him first,or work towards or try to put
Him first in all things.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I heard a man say
this once.
He talked about his dad and themost important thing that he's
most thankful for, his dad wascoming home every night.
Just coming home every night,just being in the home, just
coming home every night, hispresence, just being there, just
being there.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I think that's so
true.
That presence, you know it,speaks louder than words.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes, Can you share
any personal antidotes or wisdom
from a spiritual perspectivethat you've shared with your
children?
What are some of those sayingsthat when they see you, when you
say that they know here we goagain, or whatever.
You know those things that wesay as dads.
What are some of those things?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, I'm always, I
guess probably too many things,
and if you get them started,they'll say please, no.
I like to go back to this ideaof abiding abiding in the vine.
I think that's to me such apowerful image of what it means
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to truly follow after Jesus, tobe connected to the vine, to get
your life from the vine, to besurrendered to the vine.
That takes humility.
It also takes this desire toput Jesus ahead of you, to take
Jesus off the throne of yourheart I'm sorry to put him on
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the throne of your heart and toabdicate that, which is not
necessarily something we want todo.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You know we have some
fathers, some young and older
fathers, listening to this.
Can you share with them someadvice on how to balance the
demands of parenting withbuilding a legacy for your
family?
I know you've been in realestate and just being busy.
How were you able to balanceall this, especially with three
boys?
We had three boys withdifferent demands and guys are
just different, so how were youable to balance that?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, I'm still
learning, so I've got it down
perfect, but I do think a couplethings that you said earlier I
mentioned earlier Tim is, Ithink, coming home every night.
Now I can't say that I did thatperfectly.
I might have been homephysically but my mind was
elsewhere.
But I try to be veryintentional about coming home
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every night, being present fordinner, having that time of
fellowship, trying to buildrelationships, getting to know
each one of my sons individuallyand collectively, but being
present to respecting the giftsthat God has given them and
instead of trying to drive themor bring them into my world,
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I've really tried to be presentto what God has called them to
and support them in those spaces.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, we know
that being a good role model as
a dad is critical in shaping ourchildren's values and character
.
How did you intentionally modelthose behaviors and values that
you want to see in your sons?
You know, we as dads there'scertain qualities that are
something we don't want, butthere's some others that we want
them to see and become.
How were you intentional inbuilding that?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, I think early
on I heard somebody say that if
you want to be a godly man,you've got to start with God,
and so I have tried to be inGod's word consistently every
day, um, and and and be a man ofprayer, you know, spend time in
the presence of the Lord.
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Um, I think if you investyourself deeply in the word of
God and into, and give yourselfand seek him, god changes you.
He brings you into a placewhere you can be that model, and
hopefully one that reflects thelight of his hope and truth.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You know you've been
involved in experiences in both
ministry business.
Take care of you.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You can't do that and
be a generous person In some
place.
If you decide to be generous,god will call you to a deeper
generosity, almost a sacrificialgenerosity.
That's a sweet place.
It's a sweet place and if youthink about what Jesus gave for
us, there's no sacrifice, right?
Really, it's not really.
You're giving yourself away forGod's kingdom, for God's glory,
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and if you're willing to dothat, he will provide
opportunities for you to bepresent.
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know what advice
would you give to fathers who
may be struggling to balancetheir own personal legacy with
their responsible parents?
You know something we'reworking on our own, which you
just talked about.
What advice would you give tothose who are struggling with
that?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I think again,
I really would just go back to
spending time in the Word,spending time in prayer and be
intentional about it.
I think there's such beauty inthe Psalms.
You listen to the heart ofDavid and there's a man who's
pursuing God and he didn't doeverything perfect, but he kept
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going back to God.
He kept going back to God, andso I think there's a humility in
that.
I also think there's a realdesire to build a relationship,
and I just I know that if youcommit yourself to that deep
relationship with Jesus, that itwill then create balance in
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your life.
It happens.
And how that happens, I can'tsay that perfectly, but God will
make a way.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Make a way.
Amen, Amen.
Let's go back in time.
If you can go back in time.
What question would you askyour grandfather first?
What question would you askyour grandfather?
What would you ask?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What question would I
ask?
What's it like to be 60 yearsold?
Come on, man, that's good, yeah, I mean, you can't know what
you know until you get there,and there's something so sweet
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about what you've learnedthrough walking in life and, by
God's good grace, taking you tothat point.
There's just a wisdom thatcomes from that and I think if I
had known or had theopportunity, I would have said
you know, tell me what you'vereally learned, share with me
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those things.
But I didn't ask that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Now let's go a little
further up in life.
Let's go to dad.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You know it's
interesting.
My dad was a man of action andwas always going and was very
gifted and was able to do thatand in his 60s my dad got
Parkinson's and everythingchanged then because he could no
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longer go.
And you know, parkinson's is ais a thief, as he would say
every day.
It takes a little bit from you,but I learned so much from my
father in the last 20 years ofhis life of what it means to
truly pursue Jesus, to surrenderand to follow and learn what it
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meant to be weak but so strong,so joyful.
My father really became myfriend, friend, my brother in
the last 20 years.
So I think I would ask him dad,teach me how to abide.
And I think he did.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But I was so grateful
for those years think about the
word when it talks about whenPaul had that thorn, you know,
and he said my grace issufficient as we that thorn, you
know, and he said Lord said mygrace is sufficient.
Yes, as we go through thosethings, you know, until we're in
there we don't reallyunderstand that you don't know.
When we're in there, you know,we begin to realize that, yeah,
I think God's grace issufficient, It'll get me through
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.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
That's all I need to
get through, you know that trust
and that belief you, yourealize too that I was putting
my hope in some other things.
Maybe it's my physical strength, my schooling, whatever it is,
and when those things all goaway, you just got Jesus.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And that's enough,
and that's enough, and that's
enough.
You know, as we talk about yoursons, I want to give you some
time to brag on those three boys.
Just take a moment, just bragon those three boys.
Just take a moment, just bragon those three boys.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow.
Well, that's an easy thing todo.
God has given me three amazingboys, three amazing young men.
My oldest son is Isaac.
Isaac's just finishing up hisMBA at Ohio State, spent a few
years in the Marine Corps and Ihave the pleasure and grace to
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be able to work with him daily.
Now he's working in ourbusiness and he's an amazing
husband and father and I'mgrateful for his leadership.
My middle son, noah, is adoctor, graduated from Ohio
State Medical School last year.
He's in his first year ofresidency at Ohio State
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Orthopedic Residency and he'sjust doing amazing work.
It's incredible to watch your um, your, your children, um I mean
, he's run so far past me, um.
It's amazing to watch him umlove and care and be in a space
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or a place where God's giftedhim and in shepherding that so
well, god's gifted him inshepherding that so well.
And my youngest son, peter,also, is just a man after God's
own heart.
I love the way he seeks afterthe Lord and we have such great
conversations.
He's going deep, he'sthoughtful, he's generous, he
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shares my love for the countryand for community and he's such
a blessing in my life.
It's so fun to be able to talkto him about these things and
get his perspective on life.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Wow, boy, I can't let
you get out of here without
sharing the secret sauce.
What did you and your bride,christina do to get these guys
where they?
Love the Lord?
Serve the Lord.
What's that secret sauce?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, that secret
sauce, you've got to go back to
that.
An amazing mother Amen,christine, my wife is incredible
, an amazing blessing in my lifeand blessing in my family's
life.
Uh, she's an incredible leader.
Um, she loves the Lord.
Um, she just lives in such um,such a way that um brings peace
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and harmony and uh, so the boysresponded well to her.
Uh, well to her leadership.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Wow, as we kind of
come around the corner.
There's some, some lessons thatI think you've learned along
the way that you could leavewith our listeners about
building a family legacy,particularly as a as a father.
You know what are, what aresome of those, what are some of
those things, or that you wouldleave some, some nuggets you
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would leave with our listeners.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean, I look
back and you just can't believe
how fast your kids grow up andyou're so busy and you're just,
you know, trying to make thingshappen and support your, your
family.
Um, and at least for me, duringthat time it just kind of got
like a.
You know, I'm just in this, I'mjust working my way through it
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and I'll tell you I missedmoments.
I really missed the moments.
And now I look back and I knowthey're gone.
But if I could speak to my30-year-old self, I'd say slow
down, go back, sit down andlisten, wrestle a little bit
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more with those boys, laugh abit a little longer, because
life will happen.
You don't need to get there.
Be present for the day.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's a good word.
That's a good word for yoursons, that's a good word for
them.
You know from your wisdom.
That's how we pass this wisdomon to that next generation.
You know about life and how tolive life.
Well, that's all we have timefor today.
Scott, I want to thank you forbeing on the show and being a
father who's committed to seeingthe next generation of Malarys
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continue to serve the Lord intheir families.
You have truly raised, you'vetruly been a Joshua family, and
the Bible, joshua, says for meand my house we will serve the
Lord.
It's me and my house, we willserve the Lord.
It's me and my house.
We will serve the Lord.
And because you and Christina,your house, has served the Lord,
then that's all those guys know.
That's all they know.
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It's the same thing for themand for their kids and for their
brides.
And their brides know too.
As far as this house, you knowwe're going to serve the Lord.
That's the greatest gift we cangive our children is that we
teach them how to serve the Lordone.
And then we leave them a faithfile.
Always talk about this faithfile where they've seen us and
they see all this success.
But they have to know it ain'tabout it.
We're not that good, but God is.
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But God is truly that good, andso we have to remind them.
All these things that you seeand do and have is because of
God, it's because of the faiththat we have in Jesus Christ.
So, scott, as we wrap up, couldyou pray for me?
Could you pray for fathers?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Father, thank you for
this time.
Thank you for Coach Brown forhis leadership.
Father, you've placed such acall on his heart.
Father, I thank you for hisobedience, his faithfulness in
this place.
Obedience, his faithfulness inthis place.
Well, I thank you that you'vecreated this platform for Tim to
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share all that.
You've given him, the wisdomand the legacy as well.
I pray, father, for fathers.
You are the father, you're thefather of all Lord.
Pray, father, that you wouldmeet the fathers where they're
at.
Yes, fathers right now, maybe,lord, who are struggling.
Fathers right now, who aretrying to figure out what next
steps are.
Lord, I pray that you wouldjust give them a sense of peace
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and wisdom and that they wouldbe drawn to you, that they would
put their eyes on you, lord,and recognize that you're there
with them.
They're not alone in this work,father, and I do pray for those
right now, lord, also, thatdon't have fathers, father, I
pray that you would step inmightily into that space, lord,
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that you would give them a sensethat they are loved, they are
cherished, father, that you madethem perfectly fearfully, lord,
and that they are your child,lord, and you will never leave
nor forsake them.
Thank you, lord.
Father, we just pray for thiscontinued ministry and for Tim
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and his family.
Your blessing over them as well.
These things we ask in yourname.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Amen, Amen, Amen.
I want to thank the audiencefor joining me today.
Remember to honor your fatheror father figure in your life
during this time and all yearlong.
Please subscribe to the podcastand share with others.
Happy Father's Month.
Coach Tim Brown Thanks Scottfor being here.
A blessing, A blessing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
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