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November 20, 2025 38 mins

Lesley and Brad recap key insights from physical therapist Dr. Jen Fraboni (@docjenfit), co-host of The Optimal Body Podcast. Known for helping people move with less pain and more confidence, Dr. Jen redefines pain as an “alarm,” not a stop sign—your body’s way of asking for better care and awareness. Lesley and Brad unpack her practical strategies for building stability before flexibility, tuning in before you train, and aging with strength and ease.


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In this episode you will learn about:

  • How Lesley’s pain-as-alarm concept to daily self-check habits.
  • Brad overcomes foot pain by staying active instead of stopping.
  • How Lesley’s yoga experience illustrated “stability before flexibility” 
  • The importance of reflection and consistency when pain shows up unexpectedly.
  • How building strength supports graceful aging and confidence in movement.


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