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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, proper beard.
Yeah, I'm envious right, I wantto go back to those good days
you don't feel like quite thesame as a man without a good
beard on your face.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You know, for as long as I can, remember for the
longest time I had a goatee, butbut I mean I've had a beard.
I don't.
I don't remember my dad evernot having a beard either before
he passed.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So there was a time it was stigma, but now I think
it's, it's a norm, such a norm,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Such a color, but now I think it's such a norm.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So you guys are inspiring me, I need to let this
go.
You've got a good beard.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You could definitely fill it out.
Have you ever had a beard, afull beard?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I have, but after a while just kind of get tired of
maintaining it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So it really is work.
It's just like is that my phone?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's what we're getting a phone call from Mal.
Way to go, aaron.
I'm on.
Do not disturb.
Why don't you, gentlemen,introduce yourselves?
I'm Jeff Fox, I'm Jordan Harris, so Jeff and Jordan own Pure
Life Medical and basically it'sa one-stop tune-up shop for your
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body right.
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Great health and wellness?
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
See, all that time I was setting up, I actually am
paying attention.
He's a tagline jiggle guy.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
One-stop body shop.
One-stop body shop.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So tell us a little bit, guys.
Tell us how you created it,tell us kind of the story behind
this.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, I'll tell you a little bit of that story too,
because I've been working onthis for a couple of years
actually, and so we do have kindof a larger brand that's called
Pure Life, but our clinics wehave four clinics in Utah.
Ours is individually owned here, but we kind of have
sister-brother organizations, ifyou will Got it, and we're all
slightly different, but we dothe same general things in terms
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of health and wellness, naturalhealing being really important
to all of that, helping peoplelive their best lives.
Testosterone, yeah, so hormonetherapy, weight loss into
advanced healing techniques anduse of things like sound wave
therapy and red light therapyand all of the things that have
this incredible scientific basisfor effectiveness.
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So in that sense, there's a lotof things that we can do in any
one place, but we're actuallythe owners here in Cottonwood
Heights, and so this is our baby.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I like it a lot Demographically.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's an absolute slam dunk spot.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We really love it Lots of great folks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I used to live just up the street and our office is
just down the street so nice,great area.
It used to live just up thestreet and our office is just
down the street so great area.
It was actually one of myfavorite places to live was here
in Tonwit Beautiful yeah Up on.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Top of the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
World.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Drive.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, yes, yeah, Absolutely.
That's a great place.
Can't beat these views, that'sfor sure.
Heck, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So we decided to come remote.
I'll give you guys a littleback history here.
Travis, on our real estate team, his wife actually works here
and we got to talking and, as wetold you, we try to do at least
one mobile episode every singlemonth and felt like this was
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like the perfect place, man, theperfect place to just come in
and and find out more about this.
My own personal experience I Iget the testosterone pellets.
Yes, so I drive clear tofreaking north ogden, oh wow, to
get them done at that.
Northern.
You probably know of them shortlittle stocky dude northern,
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can't remember their name, butanyways, now that I know that
you guys do that, this is quitea bit closer Quite a bit closer.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I like it.
You don't have to take off aday to go get it handled.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Testosterone pellets are testosterone pellets right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes, there's really two big companies that make them
and we really like we like thesupplier that we work with, or
just amazing.
But one of the things that'sreally great about the specific
type of pellets that we use isthere is that what the
testosterone is embedded in isplant-based and it's less likely
to be extruded in other words,your body rejects it and then
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try and push it back out again.
so it's got a patent on how it'sdone, so to try and decrease
that ability to push it back outagain, so the pellets are about
that long.
Yeah, they're actually smaller,but they often chain them
together, but yours might havebeen.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Mine that I have are about that long.
How many do you think I havethey put in every time For you?
I would probably guess 14.
Damn close, or about that long,how?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
many, how many do you think I have they put in every
time for you?
I would probably guess 14.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
damn close 16, 16.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
yeah, price is right rules is it because it's not, is
it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
well it's bored.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
They had to actually bump me up because it was the
more he needs more manliness isthat?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
it's.
It's because he has so muchmanliness.
He needs more.
Yeah, let's dose this guy upyeah, they were.
You can tell from your size,right, and the amount of muscle
mass you have you're gonna needa lot of testosterone.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, feel good, feel optimal so yeah, and guys, I
mean, let's talk about this.
So when I hit 30 years old, mytestosterone went in the toilet
like bad welcome to the club.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yep, and that weird yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We don't realize that it's happening, because very
rarely do people actually testtheir blood work that will tell
them exactly where theirTestosterone levels are at well,
and for me it was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean energy, sex drive, wellbeing in your mind,
mental clarity.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Mental clarity.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It was a lot, so I started out doing the foamy shit
that you'd rub on yourshoulders.
They probably don't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'll leave that one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They have the creams.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
But think about it.
You're rubbing this cream onright.
It's like oh, did I put enoughon today, right, like?
Or what if you forget one day?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Or rubs off on your clothes.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah.
Long sleeve shirts.
You're going to experience thisrollercoaster effect.
It's not very sustainable.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And if you need a lot , it's hard to absorb Exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And you've got to be conscious of of rubbing off on
other people that don't need itExactly and don't want it, Wives
girlfriends right Like they donot want that testosterone.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Right, that's where I was going to go, yeah, anyways,
all of a sudden, thegirlfriends are having beards,
just like you guys, right, whenthey don't want it.
Yeah, voice goes a little.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So then I graduated to the shots and was getting
basically I self shot once aweek with one milliliter
probably something like that,and that's still very and that
stuff is like that's what I do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That stuff is like syrup yeah, like it's thick,
thick, thick.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I had I had to actually use I called it a
loading needle, which was abigger gauge needle, in order to
get it into the thing.
And then, of course, you don'tjust, it's not like a normal
shot where you just slam it inAt least I didn't or it hurt,
yeah, and it would hurt for days.
Yes, so you, you have to put itin slowly.
The problem I found with thatis you'd forget up and down and
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up and down.
You know, when you first get it,you're like on fire and conquer
the world, and then by the timeyou get to the end of it you're
like yeah, you're back down towhere you were before you were
doing doing them at all.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So we went on.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
actually, this is an interesting story.
We went on a trip to Hawaiithat uh that we basically want
it from our brokerage for volumefor the year for business, and
while we were there, got to knowsome of the other agents in the
brokerage and this couple, markand Nikki, were talking about
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how they get these pellets.
Mark was talking about about it, and so I dug into it deeper.
That's why I'm going to NorthOgden, or have been, because
that's the first time I'd everheard about that type of a
process or anything about it,and I knew that he liked it and
I wanted to go somewhere that Iknew was safe.
Yes, so that's my experiencewith it and I'll tell you it's
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world of difference.
And then another really quickside note my wife going through
menopause was a wreck.
I mean ups and downs and andheat flashes and I mean you know
, you guys hear it every day,all day, absolutely, and and she
also gets the hormonal balance.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, and, and it has been the best, I'm just telling
you the best, the great thingis the stability of it Exactly
Once you just put the pelletunder your skin, then you have
months ahead where you neverhave to think about it.
You never have to miss a dose,you just have a steady release.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, because it's like every six months for me or
seven months.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
That's exactly right, you're just going to get
exactly the dose you need prettymuch for that entire period,
until finally the pellets willbe absorbed by the body.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But that is a much better way to go than this kind
of oh my gosh, sideways.
Um, and you know, on my wife'sside, I mean she was trying
everything, guys, I mean she hadgone to to specialists, I mean
she was miserable, yeah, andjust couldn't get anything that
would work we have clients thatcome in all the time, females
that are in that exact samesituation, where they just don't
feel like themselves right, aretired, they're rundown, have no
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energy.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
There that brain fog for women is huge.
I think women are alwayssmarter than men, so they can
tell the brain fog much fasterthan we can oh no question.
And so there's I'm thinking ofthis one lady in particular.
She was like a brand new person.
A week after getting herpellets she came back in and she
was just had this glow in herface again.
She was just like walking onair felt amazing, but yeah like
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it's been amazing for my wife.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'll just tell you guys good show.
So let's talk a little bit moreabout some of the things that
you do.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh, that's just one layer of what you guys do.
This is one little teeny tinypart of what you guys do Exactly
.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So let's talk about cold and hot.
I've got it up.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Absolutely Well.
Cold and hot is great becauseit's great for well lots of
applications.
There's almost everything we dohas both physical applications
as well as almost mental healthbenefits that come along with
that in terms of your brainchemistry, and so hot and cold
is probably best known forthings like weight loss, as well
as because the shock proteinsthat can happen with both hot
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and cold.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So let's explain what it is.
It's the cold plunge, right.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's the cold plunge.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then into a sauna , infrared sauna.
Yep, so do you?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
get in the cold plunge and then into a sauna,
infrared sauna?
Yep, so do you?
Do you get in the cold plungeand then immediately go in the
sauna, or vice versa?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
so you can get.
You can do that.
The only recommendation that wehave is that you end on the
cold plunge, because your body,so the reason we like the cold
plunge is because it's a delayedrelease of that dopamine, right
, so you're going to get thatdopamine over the next 24 hours.
So if you get into the infraredsauna after the cold plunge,
you're not gonna get as muchdopamine.
Yeah, exactly, getting in thatcold water activates your flight
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or fight response, so you startto shiver, you start to shake,
right, and that's actually whathelps to strip that brown
adipose fat, right.
So, great, great for yourmental health, great for your
physical health as well.
But, yeah, we recommend endingon cold.
So, yes, you can do cold.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Get in sauna, back in cold all day, how many hours
after the cold, as your body, inthat reaction, that response
mode?
About three to four hours, yeah, so you're walking away Exactly
Carrying away the cold, andyou're feeling good, partly just
because you defeated the cold.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I've only done it once.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
The hardest part is convincingyourself how good you're going
to feel after you get in.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That cold water, and how long do you stay in?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Three to five minutes .
Anything past five minutes,you'll get diminishing returns.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, I was in Mexico on vacation right around
Christmas time.
We were actually there overChristmas and they had a spa
that you could cold plunge, yeah, cold and hot.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's exactly right.
So that's just one of the manythings, okay.
Yeah, cold and hot, that'sexactly right.
So that's just one of the manythings, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So we talked cold and hot.
We'll just move it along.
We got metal aesthetics.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, so the medical aesthetics.
We tend to focus on the thingsthat only a licensed physician
can be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So those would be things like facials and
injections that have to beadministered by a licensed
physician.
Botox so it'd be the Botox'sFacials that include things like
microneedling of amnioticfluids or PRP, and that's
another common one.
And you can also do facialswith placental stem cells as
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well, and that's kind of theultimate possible treatment
because that's putting thosebrand new cells right into your
skin.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Regrow that wrinkle.
Exactly, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, it can really start to have a big impact.
So those are the things that wetend to focus on, and let some
of the other locations focus onmore of the mid-range type of
aesthetics, so we do the higherend aesthetics.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So you guys obviously have your own in-house medical
practitioner.
I don't know what you call them.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
We've got several of them Okay and just a couple
worth mentioning.
So we have a nurse practitionerwho really focuses most on our
weight loss patients and ourhormone patients.
She also does a lot of careketamine therapy, pain
management, things like that.
So that's kind of where shetends to shine and specialize,
and she'll do the aesthetics aswell.
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We also have anotherpractitioner is also our medical
director who's really an expertin more orthopedic pain
management joint arthritis typeof issues And's especially good.
He's treated thousands ofpatients with stem cell
treatments.
Okay, we so we have all of ourown protocols on how to do that,
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on how to do that.
Well, in some sense, you know,if you were to, almost anyone
could inject a stem cell.
The question is whether or notyou can maximize its impact for
the next few months while thosecells are living, they're
adapting, they're helping youheal, and so we have really one
of the best when it comes tothings like that.
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So different specialties by ourpractitioners, and that's just
a couple of things of well verycool.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, on to the next one, red light.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Very cool.
Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Red Light, red Light, red Light therapy is absolutely
my favorite machine here in theclinic.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Really, if you guys haven't tried it yet, you'll
have to try it when we're donewith this.
But seriously, red Light helpswith so much things, so it has
so many applications, butprimarily for us big guys, it
helps reduce muscle pain,decreases inflammation and
increases circulation in thebody.
Are you guys familiar withDom's Delayed onset muscle
soreness after you work out?
Okay, one of the best studiesthat they have is that pain can
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be reduced by 50% just by usingthe red light bed.
Wow, but for females, they alsolove it because of the body
contouring, right.
So these lights actuallyPenetrate our fat cells and help
to loosen and break them up.
So we put you on a red lightmachine and then we throw you on
our shake plate and you kind ofjiggle that fat through.
It also helps activate yourlymphatic system, right, just to
get that water movingthroughout our systems.
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Wow, awesome, awesome stuff.
They actually have a red lightbed up at the hospital for their
skin cancer patients.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Because it helps develop collagen naturally in
our skin.
Wow so cancer patients becauseit helps develop collagen
naturally in our skin.
So women like that.
So it tightens everything up.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Dr.
It's good for almost anythingthere's very few things that you
couldn't use the red light for.
Because what it's doing is it'sdriving that light energy.
Only the healthy stuff, all thenegative stuff is screened out
like ultraviolet.
It drives that directly intoyour cell.
That then activates yourmitochondria.
You produce that directly intoyour cell.
That then activates yourmitochondria, you produce more
atp, your cell is more active.
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It's healing itself.
That's that's literally what'shappening by putting that energy
and that light into your cell.
Because what is death?
It's when your cell can nolonger function and no longer
has energy.
So, uh, it literally.
There's very few things thatalmost can't help with, but some
of the things that are the mostwell known for is the pain
relief, and that can includepain from DOMS.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So is it immediate, or is it something you've gotta
do over a period of time?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So it's just like a multivitamin, right Like?
If you take it once a month,you're probably not gonna see
very many effects, soconsistency is always gonna be
key.
I will say this, though acouple weeks ago, do you
remember I had that migrainecoming on?
Yeah, hopped in the red lightbed, came out, it was gone.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh my God.
So what do you recommend forsomebody coming in how many
times, how often?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Depends on what they're trying to treat, but one
to three times a week is plenty.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Okay, Is it even known as a migraine remedy?
I have friends that have.
I'm going to be pushing themthis way for that specifically.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Here's the thing Each person is different, especially
when it comes to migraine,right.
So there's tension, there'sstress, right.
There's different types ofmigraines, but for me, it helped
immensely.
But when it comes to migraine,if you can get any type of
relief, that's so much better,or you?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
know what?
Thank God, I don't get theexact thing that my daughter
does.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Absolutely Okay Dr, something like that, dr.
Absolutely Dr, okay Dr.
And so remember too that it'salso increasing your circulation
and decreasing yourinflammation, and that's why
that is so much of what ails us,dr, right, dr.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Is inflammation Dr.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Inflammation Dr, and red light helps you decrease
that inflammation, and so that'swhy it has such a wide spread
of applications.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Dr, and it's body wipe, because I haven't seen
your machine, but it's like asun tanning bed, exactly it
makes sense to me because fatcells part of the problem isn't
there's low circulation.
By penetrating with that lightit actually well, you're, but at
least what I'm envisioning isit brings, it, vitalizes the
area, wakes it up.
Aaron, he said we could jiggleit off, did you hear that I'm
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going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Said, he breaks it up , and then we jiggle it off, I'm
going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
We're going to film you guys jiggling to post it on
the video.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's all he needs, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So arthritis, nerve pain, muscle, skeletal pain,
right, any type of pain, thoseare the big ones and a lot of
people just feel better topsychological benefits for
anxiety, depression, stuff likethat.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So just consistently giving yourself light, I mean,
think of it.
That just makes complete sense.
Everything is light, everythingliving on Earth is light
eventually, and we're justdriving that directly into the
cell.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Especially coming out of these winter months here in.
Utah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Holy cow, we're all covered up.
We're all covered up.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We need our vitamin D .
Yeah, got to get it Dr.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Vitamin D.
Yeah got to get it Dr.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Okay, prp, dr, prp, I'll try and explain that one.
That's something again that thelicensed physicians need to be
able to do.
So, PRP is just the process ofwe take a blood draw and what we
do is we spin that down andprocess that blood and
concentrate all of the healingcomponents of it, the platelets,
the natural stem cells that youdo have running inside of your
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blood.
We all have some of them.
We just don't have highconcentrations of them.
That's the only problem, or elsewe'd all be fixed and off to
the races every time but westill have them and if we can
concentrate them and all of theother healing properties of the
blood, then we can re-injectthat into a site that we want to
heal.
So it's driving all of yourbody's healing stuff.
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We're just helping your bodyget all of those healing factors
straight to the site.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So PRP can be used from your own production.
So it's almost taking from thegood and getting it to the bad.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
That's right, we're just relocating it and if you
think of it that way, takingyour healing factors and
relocating it and it's reallycommonly used in pain and
healing type of applications andso if you've had an injury, if
you've got problems with yourjoints shoulders my hell, I need
.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I needed you guys about a month ago because I did
a remodel on on and this 57 yearold body was pissed off.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I bet.
Here's the thing, prp, whichstands for platelet rich plasma,
is going to become somainstream, because it really is
your body's natural way ofhealing.
We draw your blood.
Sounds like something that thecelebrities would do Super fast.
Well, you hear it all the timein the NBA and NFL oh, he just
got a PRP treatment right.
We draw your blood, we put itright back in your knee, your
ankle, your shoulder, your hipand it just gives your body's
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natural healing properties towhatever joint is struggling and
helps it heal that much faster.
Wow, it's great.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And it can also be used in aesthetic applications
because PRP facials are actuallya very common thing as well.
So and then, what we candistinguish and we'll probably
talk about this here in a secondthen is how that differs from
stem cells.
In quotes and when we usuallytalk about stem cells, yes, you
have your own, and PRP has yourown stem cells in them.
The only trouble is that for meI'm 57 and my stem cells are 57
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years old and they're not assemi and life-giving as others,
not as sprite as some of theothers and not as concentrated,
and so we can actuallysupplement that with placental
stem cells.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
They go limping in to get taken care of.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
supplement that with placental stem cells.
They go limp in to get takencare of, so, and that is really
amazing stuff.
So we can either wait or we cantalk about that.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
now let's go to Soundwave.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, let's do that.
So Soundwave is literally usingexactly what it is Soundwave,
some kind of shockwave, but thatsounds scary.
So Soundwave, what it does isit penetrates beneath the skin
and it creates a little bit ofmicro trauma in, say, a tendon
or a tissue.
So again you come incomplaining of this is hurting,
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this is, you know, needs help.
Sound waves can help bycreating irritation at a very
specific location beneath theskin, wherever that injury is.
And so what happens?
When your body gets thatinflammation or that little bit
of damage and it's just micro,it's very small, it's all right
your body starts pulling it backin.
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So again, it's another way ofre-concentrating all your body's
healing to that site andspeeding up that process.
So Soundwave, again, all thesehave just incredible histories
as far as effectiveness andscientific studies and things
like that, but this one is justcompletely non-invasive.
We don't even have to draw yourblood.
You literally, we literally can.
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Just it just sounds like alittle click happening.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Do you combine it with others, like say the red
light?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's actually kind of the specialty we actually
will combine multiple things andso say, for example, someone
has ED or something like thatand some of these things are,
you know, and people might well.
I might have heard of Soundwavefor ED.
Well, that's great, because itdoes have a very good
application there.
But what we'll do is we'regoing to marry that with you
know, basically another fiveother modalities that also have
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the similar impact.
So some places might treat yourED with just that one thing and
that can be helpful, butdifferent people are gonna
respond differently, and sowe're gonna marry that with
really four or five otherdifferent things.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you're exactly right.
The big thing I'm hearing isyou guys I mean you have
multiple approaches.
You look at all of thesemodalities, but you look at it
from different vantage pointsand have all kinds of different
solutions.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Exactly so.
We're going to get you thesound, we're going to get you
the blood factors, we're goingto get you the oxygen.
We're going to get you thelights.
We're going to get you all thethings that are helping your
self-function, and so we'retalking about all this in terms
of Like I said, a tune-up,exactly, and the way we talked
about it so far.
It's almost like you're comingin sick and so we're going to
help you.
Yes, absolutely.
That's a great application, butall of these things also have
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kind of age maintenance.
It's keeping you from aging tooquickly, so it's anti-aging
applications as well.
Wow, and so keep that in mind.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Can you make a guy like me look younger?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's right, we can bring it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, I'm just mind.
A lot of people know you make aguy younger, that's right we
can bring it.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, this stuff slow down that aging process.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah aging right his cellular dysfunction that's a
holy grail man.
We're sitting in the Holy Grail, yeah that's so for you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
When you played football, what would they do
when you'd hurt a knee or ashoulder?
There was a trainer.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
There would be isin heat.
There was also stem therapy, soshock therapy, localized shock
therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
In my day and age and some massage, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Massage as well.
Massage is good too.
Did they ever do like thecortisone shots to numb you or
the steroid shots?
I never got to where I had tohave it.
Good for you, that's good.
Oftentimes, that's the firstthing that we turn to is oh, I
just want to numb the pain, butit's not necessarily if you're
numbing the pain.
You're still exactly.
You're going to do more damagein there.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Cortisol, it totally is a band-aid.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
But also damage in there it can.
Yeah, that's the thing, it isviscous, it's hard to run
through the joint right andstuff.
Again, it has its place.
Right, if someone is inexcruciating pain, right, that
totally makes sense.
But if you're just looking toadd years to your knees, right
and shoulder and back, our soundwave and our red light are
going to give that to you in anatural holistic way.
Right, we can send, do a prptreatment and that sound wave
treatment and that knee is justgoing to feel so much better
yeah, in that other case they'rejust injecting you back out
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exactly.
Yeah, let's numb you up and getyou back on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Well, jeff would appreciate this because we're
the same age.
Back in my day.
They just give you a salttablet and boost your ass back
out on the field.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, like suck it up , don't, don't, don't be a wimp.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's exactly right Okay.
Well the technology is inventedafter you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Right, right, that's true, yeah, hormones.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
All right.
So hormones yeah, we didmention those a little bit
before, and um you you can kindof see on the screen I think
that you're broadcasting too isjust how steady that pellet
therapy really is and how itjust keeps you at a pace.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, we kind of already talked about this one,
so we didn't talk about that one.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
But the nice thing is too, it has I should mention
this too, because we didn't talkabout it before it's not just
helping you have more energy inyour life, getting your libido
back, feeling better aboutyourself, things like that,
decreasing anxiety has all thesedifferent kinds of things.
But there's an additionalbenefit to having your hormones
balanced, and that is itactually wards off specific
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kinds of major deteriorations inyour body.
So cardiovascular disease,coronary artery disease in
particular, is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized.
Alzheimer's is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized.
Alzheimer's is lower in peoplewho keep their things optimized.
Osteoporosis is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized, especially for women.
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Yep, certain cancers arelowered in people who keep their
hormones optimized, and sothose are really important to
remember too.
It's not just making you feelbetter, it's literally a little
bit feel better.
It's literally a little bitlike an insurance for how you
age from here on out and whattends to develop coming next.
It's better to keep that bodyin balance in the first place
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and fix that hormone imbalanceand again, when we were growing
up, that's just aging, that'sjust life.
Get over it and deal with it.
But it a little bit like sayingyou know you're hungry, get
over it and deal with it.
Yeah, it's so fixable no, youright you go and you eat and you
get what you're deficient in,and hormone therapy is literally
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nothing more than that, becausewe're all going to get hungry,
we're all going to lose ourhormones, and if we can just
keep them balanced and keep themhigher, it's going to make us
happier.
And then, here and now, we'regoing to protect us against
disease and that, yeah, and itall relates to weight loss too,
because you're going to haveweight gain when your, when your
hormones are out of whack letme ask you this.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So I'm noticing, the older I get, that afternoons I
start getting the depletedenergy kind of brain fog it's.
I don't know if I call it brainfogs, like you said, women are
way smarter than us and anyways,the bottom line is, is I feel
myself just like I'll starteating candy because I'd miss,
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looking for the rush, mm-hmm,you know, to get my energy back
up, yeah, so what would you tella guy like me for energy, okay
well, energy in that brain fog,where you just feel like you're,
just like your brain's tired.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, we need to get you repellent.
No, just kidding, but that isone of it, because I am due for
my blood test, by the way.
Yeah, and that's actually worth.
That would be one of the bestthings to check Cause again, it
has this whole body uh impact.
But as far as afternoon lagging, there is other things like
your blood sugar levels andstuff that could affect that
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that we probably should also belooking at.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And so that's where we would just match you up with
the doctor, have the doctorreally kind of figure out what's
going on there, and so thatwould really be their call with
the I say doctor, but ourpractitioners- Well, and that
happens to be a solution, didyou like how I led you right
into that, and I didn't evenknow I was?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
because the next one was medical diagnostics, oh,
okay.
Well, that's a really good one.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
So obviously we're going to be able to test your
blood, but we're really going tostart with some biometric
testing and almost everybodythat comes through we're going
to run a biometric scan.
It uses four different kinds ofelectrical tests to not only
look at your body compositionbut also to look at how your
heart is functioning, whether ornot your circulatory system is
functioning well, and we canalso see things that might be
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problem areas in your spine, inyour vertebrae and also in your
brain.
We can see fatigue and thingslike that in your brain.
So we really have everyone dothat.
We can also do multiple scansand view things over time and
see whether or not you're goingup, do things are getting better
, things of that nature.
So everyone goes through that.
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And then if you have certainsymptoms that require blood
testing, of course we're goingto take that next step into the
blood testing phase, especiallyfor hormones, the only way to
know for sure.
But we're not just going tolook at your testosterone either
.
We're going to kind of do abroad panel to find out what's
happening in your chemistry ingeneral.
But of course the hormones aregoing to be a key part of that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Dr.
Yeah, you know, I mean whenthey did my first blood work,
like they took I don't know howmany vials, but it was a lot,
and my wife actually printed offthe results.
Yes, and I'm not kidding youguys, it was a stack of papers
that thick.
That's amazing, all the bloodwork they did.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I love that because it just gets a comprehensive
view of what's going on and theycan see other kinds of triggers
.
You know you're often going tosee people with thyroid problems
, for example.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Right Well that's a slightly, it's related but still
a separate issue.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And so it needs to be treated in a slightly different
way.
So there might be multiplethings.
So that base is going to behormones, but we're going to see
other things going onpotentially too, and that's
something that the provider willbe able to talk with you about.
And we're on the verge of doinga couple other different kinds
of testing too.
We haven't quite rolled it out,but almost any day now.
So we're going to do much morein the DNA testing world,
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because that is no, we canalready do that today actually,
but we're going to start doingit in a little bit different way
.
So DNA testing is one of those,but also microbiome testing, a
lot of people.
We don't know what's going oninside our gut.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's the most mysterious part of what's going
on inside of our gut, dr JustinMarchegiani.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Gut health yeah, exactly, dr Randall Bell, it's
the most mysterious part ofwhat's going on, and so we're
about to introduce microbiometesting as well, and the nice
thing, too, about this is we'llbe able to aggregate those tests
using, basically, a mobile app.
We can get a snapshot of whoyou are, what your microbiome
looks like, what your DNA lookslike, what your blood looks like
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.
Now, knowing all those things,how?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
do you live life?
It's all pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And now we can use algorithms to say, okay, well,
you probably should avoid thisfood, you should eat more of
those and actually be verydirective in giving great health
advice to people.
So that's something we'reworking on.
We haven't quite rolled it outyet, but we be rolling that
heartburn since I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I take a heartburn pill every single day, and by
noon.
If I don't take it, I'm gettingHarvard.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Wow, that crazy yeah yes and yeah, all right one stem
cells, stem cells, well thatsells is a good one right we
actually just had your guys callagain.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He recently had a back surgery and he's looking
for additional help in gettingthat back right.
So stem cells are.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I know he's struggled with it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He has struggled, just had his surgery.
Yep, it's such a great guy.
Couldn't have happened to abetter guy either.
Right, we love Travis.
But stem cells areundifferentiated, pluripotent
cells that once they're enteredinto the body, your body tells
them exactly where they need togo and they can become whatever
your body needs, whether it'smuscle, joint, tendon, cartilage
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, bone, they can become any typeof cells that your body can
produce there.
It's literally the future ofmodern medicine.
Wow, very, very cool stuff.
Absolutely.
Yeah, we do that here.
Jeff had mentioned previouslyour medical director.
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His name is Steven Cox.
He is an expert in stem celltherapy.
He has developed a fantasticprotocol to help keep those stem
cells enough time to do andfocus what they need to do.
If you think about it, a backinjury, like a herniated disc,
that's a serious injury.
Right, there's a lot of stuffgoing on there that needs to be
repaired.
So these stem cells they needtheir time to focus on to get
that done.
But we love the stem cells here, have seen such great, great
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results, so just last week,example, we did back injections
to help with that surgical.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
So post-surgery is one application of that.
They're also something that'sreally nice pre-surgery or if
surgery is just not the rightthing for you.
So we did treatments as well onsomebody who really has
bone-on-bone hip problems.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, we talked to an older person, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
And surgery is just too risky to do a hip
replacement at an older age andthings like that so they're
looking for some way to helprelieve just the agonizing pain
and misery that they feelbecause they can't really get
around and it's just reallydisruptive to their lives.
So, rather than surgery,obviously this is something that
we can do that has some hope ofactual regeneration.
It's one of the only things youcan do to really get
regeneration of lost tissues.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I have a nag or something, it makes sense to
come in here and go hey, let'stalk about it Exactly right.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
But the other thing too is just a lot of people will
talk to well, I'm supposed togo get my knee replaced sometime
soon.
Well, that's a big commitment.
You can't come back from it,and sometimes you need it.
That's fine.
When you need it, you need it.
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But if you can either put thatoff for five years, 10 years or
maybe not have it at all, thestem cell therapy is one of the
few things that can possiblyhelp you put off that type of
surgery.
So our medical director isactually going to be giving a
talk on that and other issuesthis coming Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
May 1st.
May 1st, yeah, 6.30 here at ourclinic, 6.30 here in the clinic
, and he'll be speaking on whatthese applications are.
We could bring some people,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, I have several people I'm thinking about that.
I'd love to bring out Love tohave guests.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
We're inviting anyone in the community who wants to
come and can hear from somebodywho really knows how to do this
stuff in the right way, and sohe can talk about, kind of where
it works.
There's, there's.
It's not going to work oneverything.
There's certain places where itmay not work, but he'll know
exactly what those places are.
But um, so anyway, that's justwhat's exciting to be able to
see that help.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Do you guys play pickleball by chance?
So I want to share my stem cellstory.
This is about five years ago,right?
I was playing pickleball withmy wife.
I swear I wish this story wasbad.
I could cover the whole court.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, this guy's like seven feet tall, and if I was
seven feet I'd be in the NBA.
I'm only six, seven, but yeah,it feels like that Roy D Mercer
would say how big a boy are you?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
yeah, I'm a big boy, so I was out playing pickleball
with the wife I go to, I hear apop in my foot.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It was your foot Dr.
No, I wish Crushed it, right.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So I hear the pop.
I go to the doctor, get the MRI.
He's like yep, you've got agrade three tear in your
perioneal tendon right, that'sthe tendon that's responsible
for your foot not going likethis wiggling back and forth
right.
And so he says we got to dosurgery.
Surgery involves breaking thebones in your foot, reattaching
the tendon, resetting the bones,and you're in a wheelchair for
12 months.
(35:53):
Sounds awesome, 12 freakingmonths.
Mind you.
My wife we had just gottenmarried, like our second year to
marriage she was pregnant withour first kid and I'm like I
cannot do that to my wife Likeshe'll literally have two babies
on her hand.
Yeah, two babies, right.
So I start doing some researchand I find this stem cell
company.
I go to their seminar, I learnmore about it.
I end up getting this stem cellshot, right.
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I'm in a walking boot for twomonths Two months, mind you.
And at this time I'm 6'7", 320,right.
I hadn't lost as much weightyet, right?
So there's a lot of pressure onthat foot.
After two months I take off thewalking boot foot's good to go
no pain mobility's all the wayback.
I go back to my doctor and he'slike I want to see the MRI to do
it.
He gets the MRI.
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That tendon is completelyhealed.
Wow, amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And I'm like, well, how can you guys don't do this?
That obviously was yourentrance into this, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
One application.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Just one application?
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
So what would you guys say to the naysayers?
I mean there's always naysayers, there's always.
I mean my sister actually doesthe same exact.
She has a clinic down inArizona, oh nice, but there's
always those people I've heard,I've heard mixed reviews about
stem cells and I know my mom, Ithink my mom has actually done
some stem cell.
She's, she's got major mentalstuff.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, she's 80 that's a great question.
So, first and foremost, we loveour relationship with our
supplier, right?
They're actually local here inUtah, so we know the type of
quality stem cells that we'regetting right.
So that's what I would say tothe naysayers Well, what type of
stem did you get?
Where did it come from?
All of our stem cells come fromumbilical cord and placental,
from pre-planned c-sections,right?
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So these are first-time mothersgiving birth and it's a
pre-planned c-section becausethe c-section is less trauma
than a traditional birth, right?
They also do a health, so dothey just?
opt into that.
They opt into it.
Yep, they.
They're willing to donate it toit.
Yeah, and the lab actuallymakes a donation to a charity of
their choice.
Very cool, yeah, very coolstuff.
But they do a health screeningthree generations up.
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So the birth mother's parents,grandparents and great, great
grandparents Wow.
The other nice thing and Idon't know how political you
guys are, whatever, but Ipersonally love it these donors
have never touched a COVIDvaccine or shot ever vaccine or
shot ever.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
right just screen for all sorts of diseases, so many
things, etc.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Things like, wow, yeah, so they really carefully
serious.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
They're very serious, yeah, about right, about who
they'll exactly yeah, and weknow those stem cells are going
to arrive live too, and becausethey're viable problems
sometimes with other suppliersthat they don't actually arrive
alive.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
one of the things they do prior to shipping is
they will pull out a sample ofthe stem and test it to make
sure the stem cells are stillviable.
Yeah, because they arecryogenically frozen right and
so once they're shipped here wedo, we thaw them in preparation
for the procedure.
But yeah, they're viable,they're moving.
There's over a billion cellsInside the vial of stem.
Yeah, it's amazing stuff, wow.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
And as far as naysayers, I mean, no one is
saying that this is the be alland end all of everything.
So, yeah, if people areoverstating-.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I did call you the Holy.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Grail.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, that's true.
High marks to live up to, forsure.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Everything has limits and everything has applications
.
So if someone is going outthere saying, yes, I have
depression, I'm just going totake stem cell, well, that's a
pretty weak linkage.
I'm not saying it couldn't havean impact, but you don't want
to be making promises aboutsomething like that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So I've heard if you're bone on bone, that stem
cell can't help you.
Is that true or not?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So that is not true.
If you're depressed becauseyour hip hurts and you can't get
up or walk, cause your life ismiserable, absolutely.
That's what.
That's what for sure, Totally.
We have a lot of ways to tacklethat.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I'm just saying that I cannot promise you that the
stem cell is going to fix that.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Right, that's that's a crazy promise to answer your
question, the gentleman that wasbone on bone with his hip
literally 15 minutes after.
So we did his stem cell shot,then we put him in our red light
bed.
He was like I swear the pain isgoing away.
Right, the stem cells respondto pain activators.
So he's this is a.
It'll be a week out.
On Wednesday he's coming backand he's going to do a follow-up
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PRP treatment, follow-up soundwave treatments Again, red light
bed I'd really like to followup and find out what if it
really truly did and does helphim.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And here's what I would say too, Because bone on
bone is bone on bone.
It is.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, and it's the hardest thing in the world to
deal with.
And again, even in all theconversations with him, we're
saying we cannot promise youanything, right, because you
really can't, because every bodyis different, but in terms of
things that have any hope foryou, it's kind of the only thing
left, right.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Well, I mean, if you really face it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
surgeries are not guaranteed Stem cells or surgery
.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You know, I had shoulder surgery because I had a
bone spur that was hitting anerve that sucked.
So, going to the surgery,during the surgery, and I didn't
even know they were doing this,they actually disconnected my
bicep because I guess there'snot enough room for them to go
up in and do what they've got todo.
Oh, wow.
Anyways, the long of the shortis and and I'll take my blame on
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this as well, because I wasn'tthe greatest patient for
follow-up and and and therapy PT, pt after and all that I went I
did, but I didn't know thatthey had actually severed my
bicep.
Wow.
So today my bicep hasre-separated and has bunched in
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a ball right here.
So my point being is is thatsurgery isn't a guarantee either
?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Right Nothing.
There's literally nothing thatyou can promise that it will
ever have a 100% result.
So, yeah, you can often put toomuch expectation into something
and our provider is incrediblycareful, honestly, he does
multiple conversations withpeople and he can just as easily
say you know what?
(41:49):
I don't think this is right foryou.
Because's a lot of money goodthat the probability is high for
you right, and I'm gonna tellyou that right up front.
It's just not a good likelycandidate hi how are you?
there's places where it's beenshown to work well and others
where it's it's you know weakevidence.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
So all righty.
Well, we're at 42 minutes, ifyou can believe that.
That's amazing, do you?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
want me.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Okay, I just put up.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
One thing I want to say so the part that gives me
confidence is how considerate,how approachable, I would feel
comfortable coming here.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I would too.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's important because when you're staring down
this list of things that couldbe potentially going wrong,
because as we all age, thingsare slipping, things are
happening.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Jordan had to step out because we actually had a
client walk in.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, we had someone walk in, that's exactly right.
It can be scary.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
It can be embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Health going downhill is scary.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
So I've got the Pure Life Steps to Peak Health Up.
That's your big chart thing.
So this is a big overview,that's your big chart thing.
Yeah, that's a big overview.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
It's just really an overview of our philosophy and
kind of our range of servicesand we we kind of start on the
bottom there of that graph, yeah, with purple testing, you know,
because a lot of times, youknow, it's all a lot of times
just covering symptoms or wecan't help identifying the
problem.
Look, let's just try and see ifwe can get to the bottom of
what's going on here, and sotesting is really important to
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us, and then from there we kindof have this set of gradations
of things, testing isresponsible.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
What's that it's responsible?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Absolutely.
We've got to know what's goingon.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I mean yeah giving you interventions without
knowing would be weird.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
You know, that just doesn't make any sense.
And so we talked about kind ofthe range of testing that that
we're able to do, but alsothat'll be growing and expanding
.
So we're really excited aboutthat.
Um, and then it starts to go towell.
What can I do to really reducemy aging, make me feel better,
really feel better, look better?
Those are the, those are thethings that people really want
to feel.
(43:45):
And so what do you got?
What do you do?
All right, so one of the firstthings on that scale, then, is
going to be essentially weightloss, because that will tank
your health faster thaneverything, and you're not going
to feel good about yourself, soit affects everything in your
body.
So obviously, that's somethingwe have to think about, worry
about and help people with, helpthem get there.
And so we have not only weightloss peptides, which are kind of
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the hot thing that a lot ofpeople talk about.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
What about Ozempic and these shots?
The?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Ozempics and stuff like that, and the common names
for them are semaglutide andterzepatide.
They work really well, they'vegot great research base.
They don't always work foreverybody, and so we do have
other ways of trying to approachthat, and sometimes people have
a little bit of side effect andmaybe they don't want to take
it anymore or something likethat.
And so because it can sometimesmake the gut feel kind of
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strange and weird, so we do havesome other options on what you
can do.
But we got to get hold of ourhealth, because if we're
overweight we're going to besicker, we're going to feel
worse about ourselves.
So, anyway, that's why it'skind of like there, you know,
kind of at the base of all ofthis is because it affects
everything else.
But then after that we also puthormones down at that base too,
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because again, those hormonesare going to affect whether or
not you are gaining weight,they're going to affect your
psychology, they're going toaffect your physical performance
in so many ways.
And so these are just basicthings that you really got to
tackle at that level and thenkind of moving up the stages, if
you will, towards peak health.
We're increasing the types ofinterventions and so maybe we're
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starting to tackle much morespecific problems so we can
bring all the natural healingstuff like the red light, like
the sound wave, like oxygentherapies, like things like that
that again are basic to yourwhole, your physiology.
Those are incredible naturalhealing factors.
They're not surgery, they'renot drugs.
You know, the longer you canstay away from that the better.
Someday it may be required, andthat's fine.
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But most times we rush theretoo quickly and there's better
ways to do this, and so thenatural healing.
And then you can get into themore advanced healing we talked
about with stem cells and thingslike that.
Then there's who else?
Are you, you know your mentalhealth, things like that?
Then there's a who else, whoelse are you, you know your
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mental health, stuff like that.
And that's why you know we havea couple things one that's
really super low interventionhere in the clinic.
It's called the neuro visor.
It kind of helps people withtheir psychology getting out of
getting out of their heads,getting out of their ruts, and
helping to kind of regrow,regenerate some of their brain
function.
There's some.
So there's some nonintervention ways, but there's
some non-intervention ways.
But there's also things thatare more deeper, psychological,
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I guess, which is like theketamine therapy that again can
help you process throughdifficult things that have
happened in your life.
And so there's the mentalhealth portion of that that is
also really important to us, andthen, kind of at the top, is
the aesthetics.
Now, maybe that's down at thebottom.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Don't forget the sexual health.
Maybe that's everywhere, ohsexual health.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
yeah, we haven't talked about that.
That's a really good one, tom.
You're all weight loss hormonesand other that should be there
I was just gonna say I love thatsexual health is at the top.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
I leave it at the top .
Yeah, problem per se, but whenyou do, the nice thing is there
actually are things to do aboutit.
Now, you might have tackledthat back down at the hormone
level.
You might have actually takencare of it Now.
Sometimes, though, it mightrequire more intervention.
So, again, we talked about thefive or six different types of
interventions, so we're going toput and we're just going to
really put that together andthat's not just for men, but
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there's women, too, have sexualdysfunction as well, and so
you've probably heard aboutthings like P-Shot, o-shot Yep,
those are actually brand names,and so we just call them
vitality shots here, for men andwomen, but they're the exact
same principle, and that isagain, but it's healing around
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your organs, basically so thatyou can get better sensitivity,
better performance, things likethat, and most of those are done
through a PRP treatment.
That's what a PNOS shotactually is.
So it's a PRP that we talkedabout before, right Injected
into those private parts, whichsounds scary, but it's not that
bad actually, so I've had itdone.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I'll take your word for it done because I do, I do
everything.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Our clinic does.
Yeah, and so it's not that.
Yeah, it's not as scary.
I'm scared of shots in mywiener dude.
It sounds scary and I'll behonest, I you know, I'm like, oh
, I don't want to think aboutthis.
And then you do it and you'relike, oh, that wasn't that thing
so.
But the same is true for women.
We can do those exact samethings for women.
There's also things like, youknow, a large prostate, urinary
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incontinence, things like thatthat a lot of modalities can
really help with.
And so, yeah, if you're unhappyin that area, that's part of
your life.
You know you have to be happy inthat area as well.
So we're prepared to helptackle that one too.
And now I don't know if it'speak or not or if it's all
throughout all of this, but justloving your look, feeling like
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you're looking as good as youcan A lot of those things we
talked about can help you lookbetter.
But then there's just the moregeneric or well-known aesthetic
kinds of practices that willhappen, and again we do the ones
that are a little bit morehigher intervention, like you
know, say, we're not going tojust do a facial that's, or a
face scrub or something likethat.
That's all good, but that'sprobably better done in a
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different location.
What we're going to do is dothe stuff that's really medical
in nature, and so it's going tobe using those advanced healing
factors in.
You know, things like facialsor hair restoration or things
like that, getting all of thoseregrowth things that we talked
about really focused on thoseother areas so it can be your
hair it can be whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I know we talked offline a little bit, but all of
this has stem cell applicationsas well.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
You do, and those are actual areas that have good
application because, again, itis a cellular growth issue and
so, yes, you can choose to dothat with a PRP application, or
you could add in the placentalstem cells as well as another
possible layer to that, maybeincreasing amping up the power
of that.
All of them are good and that'sthe nice thing is you almost
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can add stem cells where itmakes sense.
And there's certain times, youknow, of course we're not gonna
say it does everything, butthere are great, there's a lot
of places where the showinggreat research outcomes.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
so wow, that was a lot.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
That's our stair step of peak health wellness.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Long and short.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
if something's not feeling right, looking right, I
mean they've got it sounds likeyou've got something for
everything, at least to try tofigure it out.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
And our practitioners are going to get after it.
Okay, one more time.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
When is your where your practitioner is going to be
talking to everybody?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Your presentation, so this will be May 1st, that's
this coming Wednesday night.
We're here at our location in1844 East Fort Union Boulevard
in Cottonwood Heights, so we'llbe speaking at 630.
So come and join us and we willprobably try and repeat these,
maybe even monthly if possible,because it's going to be talked
(50:53):
about a lot more, since some ofthe regulatory issues have
changed a little bit in thestate of Utah, so there's gonna
be a lot of people interested init and we want to make our
experts available to the publicto come and hear what you know
what's new, what's hot, whatworks, what's not maybe.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Maybe somebody in a group setting is scared to ask a
question.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Somebody does, and they get an answer, we'll just
get a private consultation.
If that's the case, if theydon't want to talk about it
openly, publicly, I thought youhad to pop on a plane and head
to Mexico.
That's commonly the case,because what we see, that's what
we visually see.
We see advertisements for stemcell packages in other places.
Well, they're actuallycompletely legal, but you can't
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really talk about them thatpublicly.
Up until this point in timeit's always been kind of kept a
little under the radar.
But they are available, they'reall produced here, all the
research is going on here.
It's just that in anothercountry they could advertise but
there.
And one last thing that othercountries do which it really
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can't do in the US is is theywill take their stem cells,
their life stem cells, andthey'll actually replicate them
and grow them in petri dishes,and that's not allowed in the
United States.
We just use directly harvested,actual stem cells.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
That sounds better than having them.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Than manufacturing new stem cells.
Right, I'm not saying it's goodor bad, but either way they're
the same cells, so they'regetting.
If you go to another countryand get them, they're probably
getting the stem cells out ofthe United States anyway.
So you don't need to gotraveling to find this stuff,
you just need to come to people.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
You just need to come to this address, right here you
need to talk to people who doregenerative medicine.
Yeah, need to come to thisaddress right here to talk to
people who do regenerativemedicine.
Yeah, that's what it comes downto.
Yep, wow, that was a lot ofreally cool stuff.
That's a lot.
Yeah, jeff, we appreciate it aton again.
Your company is pure lifemedical.
Yep, and uh, right here on onuh union park 7200 south, or
union for union 7200 south, 18,1844 East, 44 East, yep.
(52:56):
All right, guys.
Well, thank you so so much forjoining us.
If you have questions yeah, ifyou have questions about this
awesome topic we talked abouttoday just give us a shout and
we'll put you in touch with Jeffor Jordan and you can come and
ask your own questions.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Wonderful.
If you're interested in comingto this, I'm going to be here.
Yeah, awesome May 1st.
We'd love to have you yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
The more the better, because this is really useful
information and it may or maynot be right for any particular
point you know one person at onepoint in time but you should
know about it because it reallyis a powerful intervention.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Love it.
All right people.
Thank you so much for joiningus here on Beards on the Street
in our little mobile episode,and we will see you next Friday.
Well, proper beard.
Yeah, I'm envious right, I wantto go back to those good days
you don't feel like quite thesame as a man without a good
beard on your face.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You know, for as long as I can, remember for the
longest time I had a goatee, butbut I mean I've had a beard.
I don't.
I don't remember my dad evernot having a beard either before
he passed.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So there was a time it was stigma, but now I think
it's, it's a norm, such a norm,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Such a color, but now I think it's such a norm.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So you guys are inspiring me, I need to let this
go.
You've got a good beard.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You could definitely fill it out.
Have you ever had a beard, afull beard?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I have, but after a while just kind of get tired of
maintaining it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So it really is work.
It's just like is that my phone?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's what we're getting a phone call from Mal.
Way to go, aaron.
I'm on.
Do not disturb.
Why don't you, gentlemen,introduce yourselves?
I'm Jeff Fox, I'm Jordan Harris, so Jeff and Jordan own Pure
Life Medical and basically it'sa one-stop tune-up shop for your
(01:18):
body right.
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Great health and wellness?
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
See, all that time I was setting up, I actually am
paying attention.
He's a tagline jiggle guy.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
One-stop body shop.
One-stop body shop.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So tell us a little bit, guys.
Tell us how you created it,tell us kind of the story behind
this.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, I'll tell you a little bit of that story too,
because I've been working onthis for a couple of years
actually, and so we do have kindof a larger brand that's called
Pure Life, but our clinics wehave four clinics in Utah.
Ours is individually owned here, but we kind of have
sister-brother organizations, ifyou will Got it, and we're all
slightly different, but we dothe same general things in terms
(02:01):
of health and wellness, naturalhealing being really important
to all of that, helping peoplelive their best lives.
Testosterone, yeah, so hormonetherapy, weight loss into
advanced healing techniques anduse of things like sound wave
therapy and red light therapyand all of the things that have
this incredible scientific basisfor effectiveness.
(02:23):
So in that sense, there's a lotof things that we can do in any
one place, but we're actuallythe owners here in Cottonwood
Heights, and so this is our baby.
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I like it a lot Demographically.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's an absolute slam dunk spot.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We really love it Lots of great folks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I used to live just up the street and our office is
just down the street so nice,great area.
It used to live just up thestreet and our office is just
down the street so great area.
It was actually one of myfavorite places to live was here
in Tonwit Beautiful yeah Up on.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Top of the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
World.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Drive.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, yes, yeah, Absolutely.
That's a great place.
Can't beat these views, that'sfor sure.
Heck, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So we decided to come remote.
I'll give you guys a littleback history here.
Travis, on our real estate team, his wife actually works here
and we got to talking and, as wetold you, we try to do at least
one mobile episode every singlemonth and felt like this was
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like the perfect place, man, theperfect place to just come in
and and find out more about this.
My own personal experience I Iget the testosterone pellets.
Yes, so I drive clear tofreaking north ogden, oh wow, to
get them done at that.
Northern.
You probably know of them shortlittle stocky dude northern,
(03:47):
can't remember their name, butanyways, now that I know that
you guys do that, this is quitea bit closer Quite a bit closer.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I like it.
You don't have to take off aday to go get it handled.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Testosterone pellets are testosterone pellets right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes, there's really two big companies that make them
and we really like we like thesupplier that we work with, or
just amazing.
But one of the things that'sreally great about the specific
type of pellets that we use isthere is that what the
testosterone is embedded in isplant-based and it's less likely
to be extruded in other words,your body rejects it and then
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try and push it back out again.
so it's got a patent on how it'sdone, so to try and decrease
that ability to push it back outagain, so the pellets are about
that long.
Yeah, they're actually smaller,but they often chain them
together, but yours might havebeen.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Mine that I have are about that long.
How many do you think I havethey put in every time For you?
I would probably guess 14.
Damn close, or about that long,how?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
many, how many do you think I have they put in every
time for you?
I would probably guess 14.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
damn close 16, 16.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
yeah, price is right rules is it because it's not, is
it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
well it's bored.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
They had to actually bump me up because it was the
more he needs more manliness isthat?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
it's.
It's because he has so muchmanliness.
He needs more.
Yeah, let's dose this guy upyeah, they were.
You can tell from your size,right, and the amount of muscle
mass you have you're gonna needa lot of testosterone.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, feel good, feel optimal so yeah, and guys, I
mean, let's talk about this.
So when I hit 30 years old, mytestosterone went in the toilet
like bad welcome to the club.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yep, and that weird yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We don't realize that it's happening, because very
rarely do people actually testtheir blood work that will tell
them exactly where theirTestosterone levels are at well,
and for me it was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean energy, sex drive, wellbeing in your mind,
mental clarity.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Mental clarity.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It was a lot, so I started out doing the foamy shit
that you'd rub on yourshoulders.
They probably don't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'll leave that one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They have the creams.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
But think about it.
You're rubbing this cream onright.
It's like oh, did I put enoughon today, right, like?
Or what if you forget one day?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Or rubs off on your clothes.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah.
Long sleeve shirts.
You're going to experience thisrollercoaster effect.
It's not very sustainable.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And if you need a lot , it's hard to absorb Exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And you've got to be conscious of of rubbing off on
other people that don't need itExactly and don't want it, Wives
girlfriends right Like they donot want that testosterone.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Right, that's where I was going to go, yeah, anyways,
all of a sudden, thegirlfriends are having beards,
just like you guys, right, whenthey don't want it.
Yeah, voice goes a little.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So then I graduated to the shots and was getting
basically I self shot once aweek with one milliliter
probably something like that,and that's still very and that
stuff is like that's what I do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That stuff is like syrup yeah, like it's thick,
thick, thick.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I had I had to actually use I called it a
loading needle, which was abigger gauge needle, in order to
get it into the thing.
And then, of course, you don'tjust, it's not like a normal
shot where you just slam it inAt least I didn't or it hurt,
yeah, and it would hurt for days.
Yes, so you, you have to put itin slowly.
The problem I found with thatis you'd forget up and down and
(07:23):
up and down.
You know, when you first get it,you're like on fire and conquer
the world, and then by the timeyou get to the end of it you're
like yeah, you're back down towhere you were before you were
doing doing them at all.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So we went on.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
actually, this is an interesting story.
We went on a trip to Hawaiithat uh that we basically want
it from our brokerage for volumefor the year for business, and
while we were there, got to knowsome of the other agents in the
brokerage and this couple, markand Nikki, were talking about
(08:00):
how they get these pellets.
Mark was talking about about it, and so I dug into it deeper.
That's why I'm going to NorthOgden, or have been, because
that's the first time I'd everheard about that type of a
process or anything about it,and I knew that he liked it and
I wanted to go somewhere that Iknew was safe.
Yes, so that's my experiencewith it and I'll tell you it's
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world of difference.
And then another really quickside note my wife going through
menopause was a wreck.
I mean ups and downs and andheat flashes and I mean you know
, you guys hear it every day,all day, absolutely, and and she
also gets the hormonal balance.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, and, and it has been the best, I'm just telling
you the best, the great thingis the stability of it Exactly
Once you just put the pelletunder your skin, then you have
months ahead where you neverhave to think about it.
You never have to miss a dose,you just have a steady release.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, because it's like every six months for me or
seven months.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
That's exactly right, you're just going to get
exactly the dose you need prettymuch for that entire period,
until finally the pellets willbe absorbed by the body.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But that is a much better way to go than this kind
of oh my gosh, sideways.
Um, and you know, on my wife'sside, I mean she was trying
everything, guys, I mean she hadgone to to specialists, I mean
she was miserable, yeah, andjust couldn't get anything that
would work we have clients thatcome in all the time, females
that are in that exact samesituation, where they just don't
feel like themselves right, aretired, they're rundown, have no
(09:33):
energy.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
There that brain fog for women is huge.
I think women are alwayssmarter than men, so they can
tell the brain fog much fasterthan we can oh no question.
And so there's I'm thinking ofthis one lady in particular.
She was like a brand new person.
A week after getting herpellets she came back in and she
was just had this glow in herface again.
She was just like walking onair felt amazing, but yeah like
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it's been amazing for my wife.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'll just tell you guys good show.
So let's talk a little bit moreabout some of the things that
you do.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh, that's just one layer of what you guys do.
This is one little teeny tinypart of what you guys do Exactly
.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So let's talk about cold and hot.
I've got it up.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Absolutely Well.
Cold and hot is great becauseit's great for well lots of
applications.
There's almost everything we dohas both physical applications
as well as almost mental healthbenefits that come along with
that in terms of your brainchemistry, and so hot and cold
is probably best known forthings like weight loss, as well
as because the shock proteinsthat can happen with both hot
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and cold.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So let's explain what it is.
It's the cold plunge, right.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's the cold plunge.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then into a sauna , infrared sauna.
Yep, so do you?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
get in the cold plunge and then into a sauna,
infrared sauna?
Yep, so do you?
Do you get in the cold plungeand then immediately go in the
sauna, or vice versa?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
so you can get.
You can do that.
The only recommendation that wehave is that you end on the
cold plunge, because your body,so the reason we like the cold
plunge is because it's a delayedrelease of that dopamine, right
, so you're going to get thatdopamine over the next 24 hours.
So if you get into the infraredsauna after the cold plunge,
you're not gonna get as muchdopamine.
Yeah, exactly, getting in thatcold water activates your flight
(11:12):
or fight response, so you startto shiver, you start to shake,
right, and that's actually whathelps to strip that brown
adipose fat, right.
So, great, great for yourmental health, great for your
physical health as well.
But, yeah, we recommend endingon cold.
So, yes, you can do cold.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Get in sauna, back in cold all day, how many hours
after the cold, as your body, inthat reaction, that response
mode?
About three to four hours, yeah, so you're walking away Exactly
Carrying away the cold, andyou're feeling good, partly just
because you defeated the cold.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I've only done it once.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
The hardest part is convincingyourself how good you're going
to feel after you get in.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That cold water, and how long do you stay in?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Three to five minutes .
Anything past five minutes,you'll get diminishing returns.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, I was in Mexico on vacation right around
Christmas time.
We were actually there overChristmas and they had a spa
that you could cold plunge, yeah, cold and hot.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's exactly right.
So that's just one of the manythings, okay.
Yeah, cold and hot, that'sexactly right.
So that's just one of the manythings, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So we talked cold and hot.
We'll just move it along.
We got metal aesthetics.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, so the medical aesthetics.
We tend to focus on the thingsthat only a licensed physician
can be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So those would be things like facials and
injections that have to beadministered by a licensed
physician.
Botox so it'd be the Botox'sFacials that include things like
microneedling of amnioticfluids or PRP, and that's
another common one.
And you can also do facialswith placental stem cells as
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well, and that's kind of theultimate possible treatment
because that's putting thosebrand new cells right into your
skin.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Regrow that wrinkle.
Exactly, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, it can really start to have a big impact.
So those are the things that wetend to focus on, and let some
of the other locations focus onmore of the mid-range type of
aesthetics, so we do the higherend aesthetics.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So you guys obviously have your own in-house medical
practitioner.
I don't know what you call them.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
We've got several of them Okay and just a couple
worth mentioning.
So we have a nurse practitionerwho really focuses most on our
weight loss patients and ourhormone patients.
She also does a lot of careketamine therapy, pain
management, things like that.
So that's kind of where shetends to shine and specialize,
and she'll do the aesthetics aswell.
(13:31):
We also have anotherpractitioner is also our medical
director who's really an expertin more orthopedic pain
management joint arthritis typeof issues And's especially good.
He's treated thousands ofpatients with stem cell
treatments.
Okay, we so we have all of ourown protocols on how to do that,
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on how to do that.
Well, in some sense, you know,if you were to, almost anyone
could inject a stem cell.
The question is whether or notyou can maximize its impact for
the next few months while thosecells are living, they're
adapting, they're helping youheal, and so we have really one
of the best when it comes tothings like that.
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So different specialties by ourpractitioners, and that's just
a couple of things of well verycool.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, on to the next one, red light.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Very cool.
Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Red Light, red Light, red Light therapy is absolutely
my favorite machine here in theclinic.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Really, if you guys haven't tried it yet, you'll
have to try it when we're donewith this.
But seriously, red Light helpswith so much things, so it has
so many applications, butprimarily for us big guys, it
helps reduce muscle pain,decreases inflammation and
increases circulation in thebody.
Are you guys familiar withDom's Delayed onset muscle
soreness after you work out?
Okay, one of the best studiesthat they have is that pain can
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be reduced by 50% just by usingthe red light bed.
Wow, but for females, they alsolove it because of the body
contouring, right.
So these lights actuallyPenetrate our fat cells and help
to loosen and break them up.
So we put you on a red lightmachine and then we throw you on
our shake plate and you kind ofjiggle that fat through.
It also helps activate yourlymphatic system, right, just to
get that water movingthroughout our systems.
(15:14):
Wow, awesome, awesome stuff.
They actually have a red lightbed up at the hospital for their
skin cancer patients.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Because it helps develop collagen naturally in
our skin.
Wow so cancer patients becauseit helps develop collagen
naturally in our skin.
So women like that.
So it tightens everything up.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Dr.
It's good for almost anythingthere's very few things that you
couldn't use the red light for.
Because what it's doing is it'sdriving that light energy.
Only the healthy stuff, all thenegative stuff is screened out
like ultraviolet.
It drives that directly intoyour cell.
That then activates yourmitochondria.
You produce that directly intoyour cell.
That then activates yourmitochondria, you produce more
atp, your cell is more active.
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It's healing itself.
That's that's literally what'shappening by putting that energy
and that light into your cell.
Because what is death?
It's when your cell can nolonger function and no longer
has energy.
So, uh, it literally.
There's very few things thatalmost can't help with, but some
of the things that are the mostwell known for is the pain
relief, and that can includepain from DOMS.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So is it immediate, or is it something you've gotta
do over a period of time?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So it's just like a multivitamin, right Like?
If you take it once a month,you're probably not gonna see
very many effects, soconsistency is always gonna be
key.
I will say this, though acouple weeks ago, do you
remember I had that migrainecoming on?
Yeah, hopped in the red lightbed, came out, it was gone.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh my God.
So what do you recommend forsomebody coming in how many
times, how often?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Depends on what they're trying to treat, but one
to three times a week is plenty.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Okay, Is it even known as a migraine remedy?
I have friends that have.
I'm going to be pushing themthis way for that specifically.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Here's the thing Each person is different, especially
when it comes to migraine,right.
So there's tension, there'sstress, right.
There's different types ofmigraines, but for me, it helped
immensely.
But when it comes to migraine,if you can get any type of
relief, that's so much better,or you?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
know what?
Thank God, I don't get theexact thing that my daughter
does.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Absolutely Okay Dr, something like that, dr.
Absolutely Dr, okay Dr.
And so remember too that it'salso increasing your circulation
and decreasing yourinflammation, and that's why
that is so much of what ails us,dr, right, dr.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Is inflammation Dr.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Inflammation Dr, and red light helps you decrease
that inflammation, and so that'swhy it has such a wide spread
of applications.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Dr, and it's body wipe, because I haven't seen
your machine, but it's like asun tanning bed, exactly it
makes sense to me because fatcells part of the problem isn't
there's low circulation.
By penetrating with that lightit actually well, you're, but at
least what I'm envisioning isit brings, it, vitalizes the
area, wakes it up.
Aaron, he said we could jiggleit off, did you hear that I'm
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going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Said, he breaks it up , and then we jiggle it off, I'm
going to go do the jiggle.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
We're going to film you guys jiggling to post it on
the video.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's all he needs, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So arthritis, nerve pain, muscle, skeletal pain,
right, any type of pain, thoseare the big ones and a lot of
people just feel better topsychological benefits for
anxiety, depression, stuff likethat.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So just consistently giving yourself light, I mean,
think of it.
That just makes complete sense.
Everything is light, everythingliving on Earth is light
eventually, and we're justdriving that directly into the
cell.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Especially coming out of these winter months here in.
Utah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Holy cow, we're all covered up.
We're all covered up.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We need our vitamin D .
Yeah, got to get it Dr.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Vitamin D.
Yeah got to get it Dr.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Okay, prp, dr, prp, I'll try and explain that one.
That's something again that thelicensed physicians need to be
able to do.
So, PRP is just the process ofwe take a blood draw and what we
do is we spin that down andprocess that blood and
concentrate all of the healingcomponents of it, the platelets,
the natural stem cells that youdo have running inside of your
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blood.
We all have some of them.
We just don't have highconcentrations of them.
That's the only problem, or elsewe'd all be fixed and off to
the races every time but westill have them and if we can
concentrate them and all of theother healing properties of the
blood, then we can re-injectthat into a site that we want to
heal.
So it's driving all of yourbody's healing stuff.
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We're just helping your bodyget all of those healing factors
straight to the site.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So PRP can be used from your own production.
So it's almost taking from thegood and getting it to the bad.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
That's right, we're just relocating it and if you
think of it that way, takingyour healing factors and
relocating it and it's reallycommonly used in pain and
healing type of applications andso if you've had an injury, if
you've got problems with yourjoints shoulders my hell, I need
.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I needed you guys about a month ago because I did
a remodel on on and this 57 yearold body was pissed off.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I bet.
Here's the thing, prp, whichstands for platelet rich plasma,
is going to become somainstream, because it really is
your body's natural way ofhealing.
We draw your blood.
Sounds like something that thecelebrities would do Super fast.
Well, you hear it all the timein the NBA and NFL oh, he just
got a PRP treatment right.
We draw your blood, we put itright back in your knee, your
ankle, your shoulder, your hipand it just gives your body's
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natural healing properties towhatever joint is struggling and
helps it heal that much faster.
Wow, it's great.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And it can also be used in aesthetic applications
because PRP facials are actuallya very common thing as well.
So and then, what we candistinguish and we'll probably
talk about this here in a secondthen is how that differs from
stem cells.
In quotes and when we usuallytalk about stem cells, yes, you
have your own, and PRP has yourown stem cells in them.
The only trouble is that for meI'm 57 and my stem cells are 57
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years old and they're not assemi and life-giving as others,
not as sprite as some of theothers and not as concentrated,
and so we can actuallysupplement that with placental
stem cells.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
They go limping in to get taken care of.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
supplement that with placental stem cells.
They go limp in to get takencare of, so, and that is really
amazing stuff.
So we can either wait or we cantalk about that.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
now let's go to Soundwave.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, let's do that.
So Soundwave is literally usingexactly what it is Soundwave,
some kind of shockwave, but thatsounds scary.
So Soundwave, what it does isit penetrates beneath the skin
and it creates a little bit ofmicro trauma in, say, a tendon
or a tissue.
So again you come incomplaining of this is hurting,
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this is, you know, needs help.
Sound waves can help bycreating irritation at a very
specific location beneath theskin, wherever that injury is.
And so what happens?
When your body gets thatinflammation or that little bit
of damage and it's just micro,it's very small, it's all right
your body starts pulling it backin.
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So again, it's another way ofre-concentrating all your body's
healing to that site andspeeding up that process.
So Soundwave, again, all thesehave just incredible histories
as far as effectiveness andscientific studies and things
like that, but this one is justcompletely non-invasive.
We don't even have to draw yourblood.
You literally, we literally can.
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Just it just sounds like alittle click happening.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Do you combine it with others, like say the red
light?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's actually kind of the specialty we actually
will combine multiple things andso say, for example, someone
has ED or something like thatand some of these things are,
you know, and people might well.
I might have heard of Soundwavefor ED.
Well, that's great, because itdoes have a very good
application there.
But what we'll do is we'regoing to marry that with you
know, basically another fiveother modalities that also have
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the similar impact.
So some places might treat yourED with just that one thing and
that can be helpful, butdifferent people are gonna
respond differently, and sowe're gonna marry that with
really four or five otherdifferent things.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you're exactly right.
The big thing I'm hearing isyou guys I mean you have
multiple approaches.
You look at all of thesemodalities, but you look at it
from different vantage pointsand have all kinds of different
solutions.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Exactly so.
We're going to get you thesound, we're going to get you
the blood factors, we're goingto get you the oxygen.
We're going to get you thelights.
We're going to get you all thethings that are helping your
self-function, and so we'retalking about all this in terms
of Like I said, a tune-up,exactly, and the way we talked
about it so far.
It's almost like you're comingin sick and so we're going to
help you.
Yes, absolutely.
That's a great application, butall of these things also have
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kind of age maintenance.
It's keeping you from aging tooquickly, so it's anti-aging
applications as well.
Wow, and so keep that in mind.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Can you make a guy like me look younger?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's right, we can bring it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, I'm just mind.
A lot of people know you make aguy younger, that's right we
can bring it.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, this stuff slow down that aging process.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah aging right his cellular dysfunction that's a
holy grail man.
We're sitting in the Holy Grail, yeah that's so for you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
When you played football, what would they do
when you'd hurt a knee or ashoulder?
There was a trainer.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
There would be isin heat.
There was also stem therapy, soshock therapy, localized shock
therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
In my day and age and some massage, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Massage as well.
Massage is good too.
Did they ever do like thecortisone shots to numb you or
the steroid shots?
I never got to where I had tohave it.
Good for you, that's good.
Oftentimes, that's the firstthing that we turn to is oh, I
just want to numb the pain, butit's not necessarily if you're
numbing the pain.
You're still exactly.
You're going to do more damagein there.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Cortisol, it totally is a band-aid.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
But also damage in there it can.
Yeah, that's the thing, it isviscous, it's hard to run
through the joint right andstuff.
Again, it has its place.
Right, if someone is inexcruciating pain, right, that
totally makes sense.
But if you're just looking toadd years to your knees, right
and shoulder and back, our soundwave and our red light are
going to give that to you in anatural holistic way.
Right, we can send, do a prptreatment and that sound wave
treatment and that knee is justgoing to feel so much better
yeah, in that other case they'rejust injecting you back out
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exactly.
Yeah, let's numb you up and getyou back on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Well, jeff would appreciate this because we're
the same age.
Back in my day.
They just give you a salttablet and boost your ass back
out on the field.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, like suck it up , don't, don't, don't be a wimp.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's exactly right Okay.
Well the technology is inventedafter you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Right, right, that's true, yeah, hormones.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
All right.
So hormones yeah, we didmention those a little bit
before, and um you you can kindof see on the screen I think
that you're broadcasting too isjust how steady that pellet
therapy really is and how itjust keeps you at a pace.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, we kind of already talked about this one,
so we didn't talk about that one.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
But the nice thing is too, it has I should mention
this too, because we didn't talkabout it before it's not just
helping you have more energy inyour life, getting your libido
back, feeling better aboutyourself, things like that,
decreasing anxiety has all thesedifferent kinds of things.
But there's an additionalbenefit to having your hormones
balanced, and that is itactually wards off specific
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kinds of major deteriorations inyour body.
So cardiovascular disease,coronary artery disease in
particular, is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized.
Alzheimer's is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized.
Alzheimer's is lower in peoplewho keep their things optimized.
Osteoporosis is lower in peoplewho keep their hormones
optimized, especially for women.
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Yep, certain cancers arelowered in people who keep their
hormones optimized, and sothose are really important to
remember too.
It's not just making you feelbetter, it's literally a little
bit feel better.
It's literally a little bitlike an insurance for how you
age from here on out and whattends to develop coming next.
It's better to keep that bodyin balance in the first place
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and fix that hormone imbalanceand again, when we were growing
up, that's just aging, that'sjust life.
Get over it and deal with it.
But it a little bit like sayingyou know you're hungry, get
over it and deal with it.
Yeah, it's so fixable no, youright you go and you eat and you
get what you're deficient in,and hormone therapy is literally
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nothing more than that, becausewe're all going to get hungry,
we're all going to lose ourhormones, and if we can just
keep them balanced and keep themhigher, it's going to make us
happier.
And then, here and now, we'regoing to protect us against
disease and that, yeah, and itall relates to weight loss too,
because you're going to haveweight gain when your, when your
hormones are out of whack letme ask you this.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So I'm noticing, the older I get, that afternoons I
start getting the depletedenergy kind of brain fog it's.
I don't know if I call it brainfogs, like you said, women are
way smarter than us and anyways,the bottom line is, is I feel
myself just like I'll starteating candy because I'd miss,
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looking for the rush, mm-hmm,you know, to get my energy back
up, yeah, so what would you tella guy like me for energy, okay
well, energy in that brain fog,where you just feel like you're,
just like your brain's tired.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, we need to get you repellent.
No, just kidding, but that isone of it, because I am due for
my blood test, by the way.
Yeah, and that's actually worth.
That would be one of the bestthings to check Cause again, it
has this whole body uh impact.
But as far as afternoon lagging, there is other things like
your blood sugar levels andstuff that could affect that
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that we probably should also belooking at.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And so that's where we would just match you up with
the doctor, have the doctorreally kind of figure out what's
going on there, and so thatwould really be their call with
the I say doctor, but ourpractitioners- Well, and that
happens to be a solution, didyou like how I led you right
into that, and I didn't evenknow I was?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
because the next one was medical diagnostics, oh,
okay.
Well, that's a really good one.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
So obviously we're going to be able to test your
blood, but we're really going tostart with some biometric
testing and almost everybodythat comes through we're going
to run a biometric scan.
It uses four different kinds ofelectrical tests to not only
look at your body compositionbut also to look at how your
heart is functioning, whether ornot your circulatory system is
functioning well, and we canalso see things that might be
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problem areas in your spine, inyour vertebrae and also in your
brain.
We can see fatigue and thingslike that in your brain.
So we really have everyone dothat.
We can also do multiple scansand view things over time and
see whether or not you're goingup, do things are getting better
, things of that nature.
So everyone goes through that.
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And then if you have certainsymptoms that require blood
testing, of course we're goingto take that next step into the
blood testing phase, especiallyfor hormones, the only way to
know for sure.
But we're not just going tolook at your testosterone either
.
We're going to kind of do abroad panel to find out what's
happening in your chemistry ingeneral.
But of course the hormones aregoing to be a key part of that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Dr.
Yeah, you know, I mean whenthey did my first blood work,
like they took I don't know howmany vials, but it was a lot,
and my wife actually printed offthe results.
Yes, and I'm not kidding youguys, it was a stack of papers
that thick.
That's amazing, all the bloodwork they did.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I love that because it just gets a comprehensive
view of what's going on and theycan see other kinds of triggers
.
You know you're often going tosee people with thyroid problems
, for example.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Right Well that's a slightly, it's related but still
a separate issue.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And so it needs to be treated in a slightly different
way.
So there might be multiplethings.
So that base is going to behormones, but we're going to see
other things going onpotentially too, and that's
something that the provider willbe able to talk with you about.
And we're on the verge of doinga couple other different kinds
of testing too.
We haven't quite rolled it out,but almost any day now.
So we're going to do much morein the DNA testing world,
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because that is no, we canalready do that today actually,
but we're going to start doingit in a little bit different way
.
So DNA testing is one of those,but also microbiome testing, a
lot of people.
We don't know what's going oninside our gut.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's the most mysterious part of what's going
on inside of our gut, dr JustinMarchegiani.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Gut health yeah, exactly, dr Randall Bell, it's
the most mysterious part ofwhat's going on, and so we're
about to introduce microbiometesting as well, and the nice
thing, too, about this is we'llbe able to aggregate those tests
using, basically, a mobile app.
We can get a snapshot of whoyou are, what your microbiome
looks like, what your DNA lookslike, what your blood looks like
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.
Now, knowing all those things,how?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
do you live life?
It's all pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And now we can use algorithms to say, okay, well,
you probably should avoid thisfood, you should eat more of
those and actually be verydirective in giving great health
advice to people.
So that's something we'reworking on.
We haven't quite rolled it outyet, but we be rolling that
heartburn since I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I take a heartburn pill every single day, and by
noon.
If I don't take it, I'm gettingHarvard.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Wow, that crazy yeah yes and yeah, all right one stem
cells, stem cells, well thatsells is a good one right we
actually just had your guys callagain.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He recently had a back surgery and he's looking
for additional help in gettingthat back right.
So stem cells are.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I know he's struggled with it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He has struggled, just had his surgery.
Yep, it's such a great guy.
Couldn't have happened to abetter guy either.
Right, we love Travis.
But stem cells areundifferentiated, pluripotent
cells that once they're enteredinto the body, your body tells
them exactly where they need togo and they can become whatever
your body needs, whether it'smuscle, joint, tendon, cartilage
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, bone, they can become any typeof cells that your body can
produce there.
It's literally the future ofmodern medicine.
Wow, very, very cool stuff.
Absolutely.
Yeah, we do that here.
Jeff had mentioned previouslyour medical director.
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His name is Steven Cox.
He is an expert in stem celltherapy.
He has developed a fantasticprotocol to help keep those stem
cells enough time to do andfocus what they need to do.
If you think about it, a backinjury, like a herniated disc,
that's a serious injury.
Right, there's a lot of stuffgoing on there that needs to be
repaired.
So these stem cells they needtheir time to focus on to get
that done.
But we love the stem cells here, have seen such great, great
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results, so just last week,example, we did back injections
to help with that surgical.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
So post-surgery is one application of that.
They're also something that'sreally nice pre-surgery or if
surgery is just not the rightthing for you.
So we did treatments as well onsomebody who really has
bone-on-bone hip problems.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, we talked to an older person, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
And surgery is just too risky to do a hip
replacement at an older age andthings like that so they're
looking for some way to helprelieve just the agonizing pain
and misery that they feelbecause they can't really get
around and it's just reallydisruptive to their lives.
So, rather than surgery,obviously this is something that
we can do that has some hope ofactual regeneration.
It's one of the only things youcan do to really get
regeneration of lost tissues.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I have a nag or something, it makes sense to
come in here and go hey, let'stalk about it Exactly right.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
But the other thing too is just a lot of people will
talk to well, I'm supposed togo get my knee replaced sometime
soon.
Well, that's a big commitment.
You can't come back from it,and sometimes you need it.
That's fine.
When you need it, you need it.
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But if you can either put thatoff for five years, 10 years or
maybe not have it at all, thestem cell therapy is one of the
few things that can possiblyhelp you put off that type of
surgery.
So our medical director isactually going to be giving a
talk on that and other issuesthis coming Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
May 1st.
May 1st, yeah, 6.30 here at ourclinic, 6.30 here in the clinic
, and he'll be speaking on whatthese applications are.
We could bring some people,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, I have several people I'm thinking about that.
I'd love to bring out Love tohave guests.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
We're inviting anyone in the community who wants to
come and can hear from somebodywho really knows how to do this
stuff in the right way, and sohe can talk about, kind of where
it works.
There's, there's.
It's not going to work oneverything.
There's certain places where itmay not work, but he'll know
exactly what those places are.
But um, so anyway, that's justwhat's exciting to be able to
see that help.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Do you guys play pickleball by chance?
So I want to share my stem cellstory.
This is about five years ago,right?
I was playing pickleball withmy wife.
I swear I wish this story wasbad.
I could cover the whole court.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, this guy's like seven feet tall, and if I was
seven feet I'd be in the NBA.
I'm only six, seven, but yeah,it feels like that Roy D Mercer
would say how big a boy are you?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
yeah, I'm a big boy, so I was out playing pickleball
with the wife I go to, I hear apop in my foot.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It was your foot Dr.
No, I wish Crushed it, right.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So I hear the pop.
I go to the doctor, get the MRI.
He's like yep, you've got agrade three tear in your
perioneal tendon right, that'sthe tendon that's responsible
for your foot not going likethis wiggling back and forth
right.
And so he says we got to dosurgery.
Surgery involves breaking thebones in your foot, reattaching
the tendon, resetting the bones,and you're in a wheelchair for
12 months.
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Sounds awesome, 12 freakingmonths.
Mind you.
My wife we had just gottenmarried, like our second year to
marriage she was pregnant withour first kid and I'm like I
cannot do that to my wife Likeshe'll literally have two babies
on her hand.
Yeah, two babies, right.
So I start doing some researchand I find this stem cell
company.
I go to their seminar, I learnmore about it.
I end up getting this stem cellshot, right.
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I'm in a walking boot for twomonths Two months, mind you.
And at this time I'm 6'7", 320,right.
I hadn't lost as much weightyet, right?
So there's a lot of pressure onthat foot.
After two months I take off thewalking boot foot's good to go
no pain mobility's all the wayback.
I go back to my doctor and he'slike I want to see the MRI to do
it.
He gets the MRI.
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That tendon is completelyhealed.
Wow, amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And I'm like, well, how can you guys don't do this?
That obviously was yourentrance into this, exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
One application.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Just one application?
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
So what would you guys say to the naysayers?
I mean there's always naysayers, there's always.
I mean my sister actually doesthe same exact.
She has a clinic down inArizona, oh nice, but there's
always those people I've heard,I've heard mixed reviews about
stem cells and I know my mom, Ithink my mom has actually done
some stem cell.
She's, she's got major mentalstuff.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, she's 80 that's a great question.
So, first and foremost, we loveour relationship with our
supplier, right?
They're actually local here inUtah, so we know the type of
quality stem cells that we'regetting right.
So that's what I would say tothe naysayers Well, what type of
stem did you get?
Where did it come from?
All of our stem cells come fromumbilical cord and placental,
from pre-planned c-sections,right?
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So these are first-time mothersgiving birth and it's a
pre-planned c-section becausethe c-section is less trauma
than a traditional birth, right?
They also do a health, so dothey just?
opt into that.
They opt into it.
Yep, they.
They're willing to donate it toit.
Yeah, and the lab actuallymakes a donation to a charity of
their choice.
Very cool, yeah, very coolstuff.
But they do a health screeningthree generations up.
(37:53):
So the birth mother's parents,grandparents and great, great
grandparents Wow.
The other nice thing and Idon't know how political you
guys are, whatever, but Ipersonally love it these donors
have never touched a COVIDvaccine or shot ever vaccine or
shot ever.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
right just screen for all sorts of diseases, so many
things, etc.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Things like, wow, yeah, so they really carefully
serious.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
They're very serious, yeah, about right, about who
they'll exactly yeah, and weknow those stem cells are going
to arrive live too, and becausethey're viable problems
sometimes with other suppliersthat they don't actually arrive
alive.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
one of the things they do prior to shipping is
they will pull out a sample ofthe stem and test it to make
sure the stem cells are stillviable.
Yeah, because they arecryogenically frozen right and
so once they're shipped here wedo, we thaw them in preparation
for the procedure.
But yeah, they're viable,they're moving.
There's over a billion cellsInside the vial of stem.
Yeah, it's amazing stuff, wow.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
And as far as naysayers, I mean, no one is
saying that this is the be alland end all of everything.
So, yeah, if people areoverstating-.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I did call you the Holy.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Grail.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, that's true.
High marks to live up to, forsure.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Everything has limits and everything has applications
.
So if someone is going outthere saying, yes, I have
depression, I'm just going totake stem cell, well, that's a
pretty weak linkage.
I'm not saying it couldn't havean impact, but you don't want
to be making promises aboutsomething like that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So I've heard if you're bone on bone, that stem
cell can't help you.
Is that true or not?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So that is not true.
If you're depressed becauseyour hip hurts and you can't get
up or walk, cause your life ismiserable, absolutely.
That's what.
That's what for sure, Totally.
We have a lot of ways to tacklethat.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I'm just saying that I cannot promise you that the
stem cell is going to fix that.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Right, that's that's a crazy promise to answer your
question, the gentleman that wasbone on bone with his hip
literally 15 minutes after.
So we did his stem cell shot,then we put him in our red light
bed.
He was like I swear the pain isgoing away.
Right, the stem cells respondto pain activators.
So he's this is a.
It'll be a week out.
On Wednesday he's coming backand he's going to do a follow-up
(39:59):
PRP treatment, follow-up soundwave treatments Again, red light
bed I'd really like to followup and find out what if it
really truly did and does helphim.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And here's what I would say too, Because bone on
bone is bone on bone.
It is.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, and it's the hardest thing in the world to
deal with.
And again, even in all theconversations with him, we're
saying we cannot promise youanything, right, because you
really can't, because every bodyis different, but in terms of
things that have any hope foryou, it's kind of the only thing
left, right.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Well, I mean, if you really face it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
surgeries are not guaranteed Stem cells or surgery
.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You know, I had shoulder surgery because I had a
bone spur that was hitting anerve that sucked.
So, going to the surgery,during the surgery, and I didn't
even know they were doing this,they actually disconnected my
bicep because I guess there'snot enough room for them to go
up in and do what they've got todo.
Oh, wow.
Anyways, the long of the shortis and and I'll take my blame on
(41:00):
this as well, because I wasn'tthe greatest patient for
follow-up and and and therapy PT, pt after and all that I went I
did, but I didn't know thatthey had actually severed my
bicep.
Wow.
So today my bicep hasre-separated and has bunched in
(41:22):
a ball right here.
So my point being is is thatsurgery isn't a guarantee either
?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Right Nothing.
There's literally nothing thatyou can promise that it will
ever have a 100% result.
So, yeah, you can often put toomuch expectation into something
and our provider is incrediblycareful, honestly, he does
multiple conversations withpeople and he can just as easily
say you know what?
(41:49):
I don't think this is right foryou.
Because's a lot of money goodthat the probability is high for
you right, and I'm gonna tellyou that right up front.
It's just not a good likelycandidate hi how are you?
there's places where it's beenshown to work well and others
where it's it's you know weakevidence.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
So all righty.
Well, we're at 42 minutes, ifyou can believe that.
That's amazing, do you?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
want me.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Okay, I just put up.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
One thing I want to say so the part that gives me
confidence is how considerate,how approachable, I would feel
comfortable coming here.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I would too.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's important because when you're staring down
this list of things that couldbe potentially going wrong,
because as we all age, thingsare slipping, things are
happening.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Jordan had to step out because we actually had a
client walk in.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, we had someone walk in, that's exactly right.
It can be scary.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
It can be embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Health going downhill is scary.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
So I've got the Pure Life Steps to Peak Health Up.
That's your big chart thing.
So this is a big overview,that's your big chart thing.
Yeah, that's a big overview.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
It's just really an overview of our philosophy and
kind of our range of servicesand we we kind of start on the
bottom there of that graph, yeah, with purple testing, you know,
because a lot of times, youknow, it's all a lot of times
just covering symptoms or wecan't help identifying the
problem.
Look, let's just try and see ifwe can get to the bottom of
what's going on here, and sotesting is really important to
(43:11):
us, and then from there we kindof have this set of gradations
of things, testing isresponsible.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
What's that it's responsible?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Absolutely.
We've got to know what's goingon.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I mean yeah giving you interventions without
knowing would be weird.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
You know, that just doesn't make any sense.
And so we talked about kind ofthe range of testing that that
we're able to do, but alsothat'll be growing and expanding
.
So we're really excited aboutthat.
Um, and then it starts to go towell.
What can I do to really reducemy aging, make me feel better,
really feel better, look better?
Those are the, those are thethings that people really want
to feel.
(43:45):
And so what do you got?
What do you do?
All right, so one of the firstthings on that scale, then, is
going to be essentially weightloss, because that will tank
your health faster thaneverything, and you're not going
to feel good about yourself, soit affects everything in your
body.
So obviously, that's somethingwe have to think about, worry
about and help people with, helpthem get there.
And so we have not only weightloss peptides, which are kind of
(44:07):
the hot thing that a lot ofpeople talk about.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
What about Ozempic and these shots?
The?
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Ozempics and stuff like that, and the common names
for them are semaglutide andterzepatide.
They work really well, they'vegot great research base.
They don't always work foreverybody, and so we do have
other ways of trying to approachthat, and sometimes people have
a little bit of side effect andmaybe they don't want to take
it anymore or something likethat.
And so because it can sometimesmake the gut feel kind of
(44:32):
strange and weird, so we do havesome other options on what you
can do.
But we got to get hold of ourhealth, because if we're
overweight we're going to besicker, we're going to feel
worse about ourselves.
So, anyway, that's why it'skind of like there, you know,
kind of at the base of all ofthis is because it affects
everything else.
But then after that we also puthormones down at that base too,
(44:53):
because again, those hormonesare going to affect whether or
not you are gaining weight,they're going to affect your
psychology, they're going toaffect your physical performance
in so many ways.
And so these are just basicthings that you really got to
tackle at that level and thenkind of moving up the stages, if
you will, towards peak health.
We're increasing the types ofinterventions and so maybe we're
(45:16):
starting to tackle much morespecific problems so we can
bring all the natural healingstuff like the red light, like
the sound wave, like oxygentherapies, like things like that
that again are basic to yourwhole, your physiology.
Those are incredible naturalhealing factors.
They're not surgery, they'renot drugs.
You know, the longer you canstay away from that the better.
Someday it may be required, andthat's fine.
(45:38):
But most times we rush theretoo quickly and there's better
ways to do this, and so thenatural healing.
And then you can get into themore advanced healing we talked
about with stem cells and thingslike that.
Then there's who else?
Are you, you know your mentalhealth, things like that?
Then there's a who else, whoelse are you, you know your
(45:58):
mental health, stuff like that.
And that's why you know we havea couple things one that's
really super low interventionhere in the clinic.
It's called the neuro visor.
It kind of helps people withtheir psychology getting out of
getting out of their heads,getting out of their ruts, and
helping to kind of regrow,regenerate some of their brain
function.
There's some.
So there's some nonintervention ways, but there's
some non-intervention ways.
But there's also things thatare more deeper, psychological,
(46:18):
I guess, which is like theketamine therapy that again can
help you process throughdifficult things that have
happened in your life.
And so there's the mentalhealth portion of that that is
also really important to us, andthen, kind of at the top, is
the aesthetics.
Now, maybe that's down at thebottom.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Don't forget the sexual health.
Maybe that's everywhere, ohsexual health.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
yeah, we haven't talked about that.
That's a really good one, tom.
You're all weight loss hormonesand other that should be there
I was just gonna say I love thatsexual health is at the top.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
I leave it at the top .
Yeah, problem per se, but whenyou do, the nice thing is there
actually are things to do aboutit.
Now, you might have tackledthat back down at the hormone
level.
You might have actually takencare of it Now.
Sometimes, though, it mightrequire more intervention.
So, again, we talked about thefive or six different types of
interventions, so we're going toput and we're just going to
really put that together andthat's not just for men, but
(47:11):
there's women, too, have sexualdysfunction as well, and so
you've probably heard aboutthings like P-Shot, o-shot Yep,
those are actually brand names,and so we just call them
vitality shots here, for men andwomen, but they're the exact
same principle, and that isagain, but it's healing around
(47:31):
your organs, basically so thatyou can get better sensitivity,
better performance, things likethat, and most of those are done
through a PRP treatment.
That's what a PNOS shotactually is.
So it's a PRP that we talkedabout before, right Injected
into those private parts, whichsounds scary, but it's not that
bad actually, so I've had itdone.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I'll take your word for it done because I do, I do
everything.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Our clinic does.
Yeah, and so it's not that.
Yeah, it's not as scary.
I'm scared of shots in mywiener dude.
It sounds scary and I'll behonest, I you know, I'm like, oh
, I don't want to think aboutthis.
And then you do it and you'relike, oh, that wasn't that thing
so.
But the same is true for women.
We can do those exact samethings for women.
There's also things like, youknow, a large prostate, urinary
(48:19):
incontinence, things like thatthat a lot of modalities can
really help with.
And so, yeah, if you're unhappyin that area, that's part of
your life.
You know you have to be happy inthat area as well.
So we're prepared to helptackle that one too.
And now I don't know if it'speak or not or if it's all
throughout all of this, but justloving your look, feeling like
(48:41):
you're looking as good as youcan A lot of those things we
talked about can help you lookbetter.
But then there's just the moregeneric or well-known aesthetic
kinds of practices that willhappen, and again we do the ones
that are a little bit morehigher intervention, like you
know, say, we're not going tojust do a facial that's, or a
face scrub or something likethat.
That's all good, but that'sprobably better done in a
(49:03):
different location.
What we're going to do is dothe stuff that's really medical
in nature, and so it's going tobe using those advanced healing
factors in.
You know, things like facialsor hair restoration or things
like that, getting all of thoseregrowth things that we talked
about really focused on thoseother areas so it can be your
hair it can be whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I know we talked offline a little bit, but all of
this has stem cell applicationsas well.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
You do, and those are actual areas that have good
application because, again, itis a cellular growth issue and
so, yes, you can choose to dothat with a PRP application, or
you could add in the placentalstem cells as well as another
possible layer to that, maybeincreasing amping up the power
of that.
All of them are good and that'sthe nice thing is you almost
(49:54):
can add stem cells where itmakes sense.
And there's certain times, youknow, of course we're not gonna
say it does everything, butthere are great, there's a lot
of places where the showinggreat research outcomes.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
so wow, that was a lot.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
That's our stair step of peak health wellness.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Long and short.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
if something's not feeling right, looking right, I
mean they've got it sounds likeyou've got something for
everything, at least to try tofigure it out.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
And our practitioners are going to get after it.
Okay, one more time.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
When is your where your practitioner is going to be
talking to everybody?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Your presentation, so this will be May 1st, that's
this coming Wednesday night.
We're here at our location in1844 East Fort Union Boulevard
in Cottonwood Heights, so we'llbe speaking at 630.
So come and join us and we willprobably try and repeat these,
maybe even monthly if possible,because it's going to be talked
(50:53):
about a lot more, since some ofthe regulatory issues have
changed a little bit in thestate of Utah, so there's gonna
be a lot of people interested init and we want to make our
experts available to the publicto come and hear what you know
what's new, what's hot, whatworks, what's not maybe.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Maybe somebody in a group setting is scared to ask a
question.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Somebody does, and they get an answer, we'll just
get a private consultation.
If that's the case, if theydon't want to talk about it
openly, publicly, I thought youhad to pop on a plane and head
to Mexico.
That's commonly the case,because what we see, that's what
we visually see.
We see advertisements for stemcell packages in other places.
Well, they're actuallycompletely legal, but you can't
(51:34):
really talk about them thatpublicly.
Up until this point in timeit's always been kind of kept a
little under the radar.
But they are available, they'reall produced here, all the
research is going on here.
It's just that in anothercountry they could advertise but
there.
And one last thing that othercountries do which it really
(51:55):
can't do in the US is is theywill take their stem cells,
their life stem cells, andthey'll actually replicate them
and grow them in petri dishes,and that's not allowed in the
United States.
We just use directly harvested,actual stem cells.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
That sounds better than having them.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Than manufacturing new stem cells.
Right, I'm not saying it's goodor bad, but either way they're
the same cells, so they'regetting.
If you go to another countryand get them, they're probably
getting the stem cells out ofthe United States anyway.
So you don't need to gotraveling to find this stuff,
you just need to come to people.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
You just need to come to this address, right here you
need to talk to people who doregenerative medicine.
Yeah, need to come to thisaddress right here to talk to
people who do regenerativemedicine.
Yeah, that's what it comes downto.
Yep, wow, that was a lot ofreally cool stuff.
That's a lot.
Yeah, jeff, we appreciate it aton again.
Your company is pure lifemedical.
Yep, and uh, right here on onuh union park 7200 south, or
union for union 7200 south, 18,1844 East, 44 East, yep.
(52:56):
All right, guys.
Well, thank you so so much forjoining us.
If you have questions yeah, ifyou have questions about this
awesome topic we talked abouttoday just give us a shout and
we'll put you in touch with Jeffor Jordan and you can come and
ask your own questions.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Wonderful.
If you're interested in comingto this, I'm going to be here.
Yeah, awesome May 1st.
We'd love to have you yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
The more the better, because this is really useful
information and it may or maynot be right for any particular
point you know one person at onepoint in time but you should
know about it because it reallyis a powerful intervention.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Love it.
All right people.
Thank you so much for joiningus here on Beards on the Street
in our little mobile episode,and we will see you next Friday.
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