Shaylen Rowland might only be sixteen, but she's already mastering multiple arenas – from barrel racing to silversmithing to Future Farmers of America leadership.
Behind the reins of her trusted partner Potato Chip, Shaylen navigates the competitive rodeo circuit while carefully managing his recovery from gastric ulcers. Their journey reveals the deep bond between horse and rider, along with the critical importance of recognizing subtle changes in equine behavior that might signal health concerns. "When you know a horse like I know Chip, you can tell when things are off," Shaylen shares, demonstrating wisdom beyond her years.
What truly sets this young competitor apart is her entrepreneurial spirit. As founder of Ranchy But Fancy Silver Co, Shaylen creates stunning custom silver and turquoise jewelry for the western community. After learning silversmithing through an online course, she's building a business crafting everything from statement jewelry to functional tack accessories. Her work exemplifies the creativity and drive flourishing among today's young western athletes who refuse to be defined by a single pursuit.
Perhaps most remarkable is Shaylen's clear vision for her future in equine sports medicine – a passion sparked by experiences with her first barrel horse, Reno. "She taught me not just about barrel racing, but about veterinary medicine," Shailen explains, crediting those early veterinary visits for revealing her professional calling. As she balances FFA leadership positions, rodeo competition, and business development, Shaylen embodies the multifaceted potential of rodeo's next generation.
Follow Ranchy But Fancy Silver Co on Facebook to discover Shaylen's custom creations and support this inspiring young athlete as she continues breaking barriers in western sports and entrepreneurship!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we got Shailen Rowland here.
How are you, Shailen Good?
How are you Good?
Thanks for coming by today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, thanks for the opportunity.
I'm really excited.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, thanks for accepting our sponsorship this
year.
Are you pretty excited aboutsome stuff coming up?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's been an exciting summer and so
hopefully we're going to keepdoing that and have a good
winter too.
Yeah, where are you going next?
Um, let's, I guess we have abunch of barrel races coming up
about every weekend and somewhippoorwill rodeos and some
youth rodeos awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And how old are you?
I'm 16 16, because you drovehere yourself today did yep, and
mom let you drive all the waydown yep, she did well, that's
because she trusts you.
You're a good kid.
Let's talk a minute aboutPotato Chip.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, how's he doing?
He's doing better, is he?
Yep, I think we finally are onthe right track and he's feeling
lots better.
Good.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Potato Chip unfortunately got diagnosed with
some gastric ulcers this yearand they have been a booger to
fix like a lot of.
The glandular ulcers are One ofour first podcasts.
We explain gastric ulcersyndrome in horses, if you guys
want to listen to that.
So how old is chip now?
(01:13):
He's 13 and you've got.
You've had him for how long?
Four years, four years.
He is really cool.
We all like potato chip yeah,he is pretty cool is that his
full name name Potato Chip or?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
just.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Chip.
Okay, so what all events do youdo on Chip?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I do barrel racing and breakaway roping.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, we had another girl in here earlier.
What's?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
your fastest time with a breakaway.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you want to do?
I mean, you want to be as fastas you can be.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
She said something like some people are two seconds
.
Is that true?
Yeah, that's so fast,definitely yeah.
Do they even get out of the boxor do they just rope it?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean like one swing and go, I guess that's awesome.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So if Chip could have a superpower, what do you think
it would be, or what would yougive him?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You can answer that however you want.
I don't know.
He's already kind of quirky andit seems like he has
superpowers.
I don't know, probably not gethurt.
He seems he's really good atdoing that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I would give him an iron stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, that too.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I would prefer not to have to scope him again.
Stomach, yeah, that's up to me.
Yeah, yeah, I would not.
I would prefer not to have toscope him again yeah, that would
be nice, but I think.
I think we're almost there,yeah, and I think the protect gi
is gonna gonna help prevent anymore.
You got any big goals this yearas far as rodeo goes, you're
doing a series or anything yeah,I have.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've started a lot of goals for my young horse.
I have a four-year-old at homeand he's getting ready to go to
roping school for a couplemonths, so I'm really excited
about him and my goal is to havehim going to start my winter
season on him for littlebritches rodeos and hopefully
use him to get me qualified forlittle britches nationals for
this time next year okay, yeah,because that's coming up next
(03:05):
week?
Yes, I think it starts nextweek.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, so you said roping school, yes.
What do you mean by?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
that he's going to our good friend Larry Darnell's
and he's going to spend at leasta month there getting started
on his breakaway career.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, well, he's going to the right place.
Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, that'll be well , he's going to the right place.
Yeah, yeah, we went last nightand roped and Larry seemed to
think a lot of him.
So I'm excited, I'm reallyexcited about him.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's good, and how long have you had him?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I got him in February .
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh, so not very long, yeah, not very long.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Was he broke, I guess , when you got him, or not?
Yeah, when I got.
So he has a good start, justready to be polished and given a
job.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, and put in an arena, yes, and put you in the
winner's circle.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes, exactly, that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, you also have a new venture.
You're taking on a new business.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And what are you calling it?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's called.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Ranchy, but F silver co.
That is awesome and it'ssilversmithing.
Yes, would you like to definesilversmithing?
I know you and I we're havingtechnical difficulties by the
name of john.
Anyways, we were talking aboutsilversmithing and I was
explaining that you and I knowwhat that, what that is, but
would you like to explain tojohn what silversmithing is?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
yeah.
So I guess you could say it'skind of like welding on a
miniature level kind of.
So I do a lot of soldering ofsilver together, sometimes
copper and make.
I make jewelry and for, likeour horse people, conchos and
head stall buckles and beltbuckles and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh, and I, I saw I just liked your Facebook page.
You have a Facebook, people cango follow.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yes, ranchy, but Fancy Silver Cup on Facebook.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
My kids are going to love that.
Yes, there's a show on.
I don't even know what showit's on, but it's called Fancy
Nancy and it's all about thislittle girl that fancies
everything.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I used.
It was a noob, and I saw someturquoise.
Yes, you're doing a lot withturquoise.
Yes, that's popular, it is.
So where do you source yoursilver?
Are you mining that yourself?
Is there any mines in SouthernIllinois?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm not and not that I know of there might be, but I
get it from different wholesaledealers on line.
How did you get into this?
Just something you wanted to do, or yeah, I've always kind of
had, I've always liked turquoisejewelry and you'd like unique
pieces, and now it's gettingpopular in the horse tech world,
(05:33):
and I had a good friend that Iwent to school with.
She lives not too far from meand she started a silversmithing
business back in 2020 and thenshe recently came out with an
online course to teach you howto do it.
So that's how I learned from mygood friend Lindsay Lehman.
She put out the course and Itook it and it taught me a lot,
and so then we kind of justjumped in and went with it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Online courses are taking over everything, yeah
they really are.
I think, John, you did someonline courses for learning how
to set up all this podcast stuff.
You did some on your own.
And then John Heron over atJust Say hey, he helped us do a
bunch of this stuff.
So shout out to John Heron atJust Say hey, Hopefully the rain
stops and he can get in thehayfield suit.
(06:14):
I know all the farmers are.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And you live about.
What an hour north of here.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, it's like exactly an hour.
Yeah, you guys have had a lotof rain too.
Yeah, yeah, this is.
I just went to the pharmacy thehuman pharmacy to get the
sacrophate we like, yeah, andran into a farmer there and he
said he's never remembered ajune this wet ever yeah, no,
it's been hard, for I mean, wegot to cut our hay when there
was a little window for thefirst time, and now the rain,
(06:43):
and it's good.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We want it to grow now, but we're gonna have to get
in there and cut it again rightit's also been hard for these
outdoor rodeos oh yeah being inthe mud all the time and yeah,
will they.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Will they cancel if it gets too muddy, or they just?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
it depends.
I mean, a lot of the amateurrodeos around here won't.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
But do you still compete if it's super muddy?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, not right now, not with Chip, I'm too picky
with him.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't blame you.
We see a lot of injuries fromnot good footing, and not only
to the horse, but people too.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I ran at a rodeo last weekend and it didn't look bad,
but two or three horses fell.
It can happen anywhere.
You a horse can get injuredanywhere, but you definitely
don't want to put on like anextra chance of getting it your
horses are very good at gettinghurt, yeah, without any other
bad factors to to get in there.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So how long have you been riding?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
um, I rode pretty much my entire life.
My mom, she, grew up showinghorses and barrel racing, so as
soon as I could I was on a horse.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
When did you start competing and doing barrels and
stuff like that?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, first I started competing in like the horse
show world.
I showed pleasure and stufflike that and a lot of fun shows
for H and I did that when Iprobably started that when I was
around four or five.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And then I started.
I got my first barrel horse andstarted barrel racing and
rodeoing when I was around 11 or12.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, who was your first horse?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Her name was Reno.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh, I remember Reno.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yep, she spent a lot of time here.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yep, she was a little .
She was well-seasoned.
Yes, yep, and did you learn alot from Reno?
I?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
did she taught me so much about so many different
things, not just riding andbarrel racing?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do you still have her .
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, we recently gave her away to a little girl that
just wanted a pasture pet, soshe's just getting rode and rode
bareback around the yard andgetting brushed.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
She's living the best retirement.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, she is, I go see her some.
She's living a good life.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That best retirement?
Yes, she is, I get to.
I go see her some.
Yeah, she's living a good life.
That's awesome.
I bought a retired slashinjured horse for my girls and I
send the old owner pictures allthe time.
We get attached to these thingsand you really want them to go
someplace that'll take care ofthem yes, yeah not, you know not
.
We see a lot of horse tradersand people that are always and I
understand that from the thetraining and business aspect of
(09:08):
it.
But especially when a younggirl is involved, you get their
family?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So that's good news for Reno.
Yeah, what are some of yourgoals outside of the rodeo this
year?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, definitely keep going with my business and kind
of get the word out with that,be successful with it.
I'm really active in my localFFA chapter in Mount Vernon and
so I do a lot with that.
I'm currently serving as thereporter.
I'm also on the section 21 FFAofficer team.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I'm the section reporter as well, so I'm be
really busy with that and I hopeto get to do more competitions
and do well with FFA.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Where is the?
What is the mottos for FFA?
Like stationed by the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, so, like as a reporter, I'm stationed by the
flag.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Stationed by the flag .
I almost said that, which one'sstationed by the door.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sentinel, that was me .
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's what I did.
I like the idea of being by thedoor so I could leave, yeah,
but I did a lot in FFA growingup.
I think that is a great, evenfor kids that aren't
agricultural backgrounds.
I think they do so much forleadership and team building.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, there's definitely something for
everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I know, I think we're section 25 down here.
I think so yeah, whatever thatmeans.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's all the state sections yeah, there's 25
sections, I believe, and fivedistricts okay yeah, I remember
a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In fact, I want to get my old ffa advisor in here
yeah, that would be fun yeah,and he's.
He's kind of old and bitter now, so I think it'd be really
really fun.
Um, who are some of your heroesright now in the rodeo world,
whether they're local ornational, or who are you looking
up to these days?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
As far as like is what most people would call the
professionals, the people thatare pro rodeoing now or even
used to.
I really look up to SherryServi.
I like the way that she ridesand how she handles her horses.
I like the way her horses moveand I watch a lot of her
podcasts that she does or anyvideos that she puts out on
YouTube.
I like watching how she trainsher horses and you know they're
(11:24):
team roping horses before therail horses and they're really
all around and have a goodfoundation and that's what I
like to see in my horses, and soI really look up to her in the
way she does.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Are you thinking about?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
team roping at all.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, maybe here and there a little bit yeah
well, you know where to go,yeah, where your horse is gonna
be.
Larry taught me and my brotherhow to rope from a young age and
I still think if he put Ihaven't roped in, oh, probably
15, maybe 20 years, I think ifhe put me on a good heel horse I
could go catch two feet.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Because he didn't teach me how to miss.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And I did a lot of.
Does he still make people dopush-ups?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh yeah, I do push-ups and run yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I used to think that I think he gets just big
square bales now, but it used tobe the small square bales now,
but it used to be the smallsquare bales and me and my
brother hauled a lot of hay forhim.
So I think he made us dopushups and do all that because
he was training his hay crew sowe could get done quicker.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Maybe.
So yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Where can people buy your jewelry?
Because I want to get some,yeah, so right now on Facebook,
I'll be posting.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'll post pieces that I have already made available,
and then I also am doing a lotof custom work.
So if you have something like acustom piece in mind that you
want, message me and I candefinitely do it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Awesome, I'm going to get some.
So that first horse, Reno didyou win anything good on her?
Do you remember what's the bestmemory of you and Reno?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's a tough question know it is, I don't know
honestly, and this might kind ofseem odd, but, like I said, she
taught me not only a lot aboutbraille racing, but she you know
, we were here at the vet a lotand that's kind of what sparked
my interest of veterinarymedicine and that's kind of what
sparked my interest ofveterinary medicine and that's
kind of what started.
I'm like, hey, I kind of wantto have a career in this, so
(13:19):
that's kind of like my favoritething about her is that she
taught me a lot about what Iwant to do for the rest of my
life and what do you want to doafter high school?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
want to work in equine sports medicine.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Awesome rehab oh, and you can get certified in that.
Now there's lots of places andthe rehab is really taking off
because we are seeing more andmore older horses.
My dad always tells a storywhen he first started one of the
first rope horses he worked onbecause this was primarily
racehorses back in the day thathe was working on, one of the
(13:52):
first rope horses he worked onwas like a teenager, like 15 or
16.
And the guy wanted to doeverything he could and I
remember my dad telling me likewhy does he want to spend all
this money on this old horse?
And now it's like 15 is nothing.
There's a lot of horses in theirmid-20s that we work on that
are still competing and winning,and a lot of that is the
(14:14):
advancements we've made andknowledge as far as how to take
care of them, preventative stuffand 20 years ago we had
steroids that's what we put injoints.
Now we have I can't even keepup with everything.
So there's a lot of theregenerative stuff.
So I think by the time you getto where you want to go, there's
(14:37):
going to be so much more thatwe can do for these horses to
keep them going which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I'm so excited.
I enjoy coming here with myhorses and I've got to learn a
lot about equine medicine andthe whole rehab and keeping
older horses sound for as longas you can and keeping them
feeling good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yep, and the old adage no foot, no horse.
You've got to be here onfarrier days and watch Steve
Summershine work his magic.
We're fortunate he's come downhere and he's been coming here
long enough.
It's been fun to watch thesehorses with.
I guess you just call them badfeet and then watch.
(15:17):
You know know the termcorrective shoeing gets thrown
around, but just correct shoeingwith the biomechanics and how
that foot's supposed to beshaped and how it's supposed to
be used.
It's fun to watch horses thathe's taken from what people just
say, oh he has bad feet togetting them healthy and
watching them.
From what people just say, ohhe has bad feet to getting them
healthy and watching them grow.
So never take a good farrier forgranted, and there's not too
(15:39):
many farriers around.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Because that is have you ever pulled shoes or
anything like that?
No, that's about as far as Iwill go with shoeing.
I can pull a shoe, but thoseguys, they're just built
different, they're tough.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And they wrestle 100-pound animals all day and
beat steel.
Yeah, those aren't the guys youwant to tangle with.
Not that you'd ever get in afight, but if anybody wants to
pick a fight, don't pick a fightwith a farrier probably.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Odds are, they're tougher than you.
If you could trade places withanybody in the rodeo world right
now, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know, probably Jackie Crawford.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And who is Jackie Crawford?
Do you want to tell us abouther?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, she is a professional breakaway roper and
I think she might be thewinningest breakaway roper in
history.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Do you know how old she is?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Maybe John can find out yeah.
Find out how old she is.
John, yeah, and there's a lotof I don't want to say old women
, but older people that arestill competing and going.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, there's definitely a handful of
professional breakaway ropersthat I really look up to because
they've paved the way to getbreakaway as one of the
professional events of rodeo.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it was in the NFR this year.
Right, yeah, was that right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, yeah, it's not officially in the Thomas and Mac
yet, but it is in the NFR.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I guess you could say yeah, it'll get there, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I hope so.
I know they signed the contractso at least it won't be for the
next.
I think it was for six years iswhat the contract was.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, but hopefully soon yeah, and you've got to go
to the NFR, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
yes, I've been twice, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And what did you think of Thomas and Mac when you
walked in it's?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
so cool?
Yeah, it's definitely.
It's smaller than I mean.
It looks small on TV, but it'ssmaller than you would think
that's what everybody says.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's yeah, I haven't got to go, but my
brother and dad have been, andthat was their reaction.
Like it's way smaller than itlooks yeah, and the energy is
crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like it's so small and there's so many people and
the energy is so high, like it'spretty cool.
I definitely it's one of myfavorite places I've ever been
in las vegas.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I've been in las vegas during the nfr but I
didn't get to go.
But that whole town, like whatdo they call that?
The cowboy christmas thing?
Yeah, did you go to that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
it's crazy yeah, there's so cowboy christmas,
christmas is all the shopping,and so they have like the main
convention center and thenseveral of the hotels.
They also have their ownshopping, and then out at south
point they have the team ropingI think some sort of team roping
world finals out there and thenthey also have a lot of
shopping there too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, you think ranchy but fancy will be set up
there someday selling stuff.
I don't know, maybe.
I guess we'll see when you'renot, when you're not competing
in the bar you can go.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, there we go, sell your silver.
Sounds like a great plan, yeahI love it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So I think, uh, we're gonna check potato chip again
in a couple weeks yes and Ireally hope, his ulcers yeah, me
too are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, he acts like he's feeling a lot better, so
hopefully that shows on thescope yeah, what were some of
the signs that you noticed?
that said, hey, you know, maybewe should scope him yeah,
overall, I mean, he's pretty agood, friendly, nice horse and
he was just kind of being kindof grouchy and not himself
didn't really want you messingwith him, which is unusual, like
(19:11):
, and when I would tighten hissaddle he was kind of cinchy and
didn't like to be messed withand he would hold his tail out
away from him, like when I'mloping circles.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
He would want to break down and act like you know
kind of gassy and just hold histail out and not really wanting
to go yeah, there's so manydifferent signs or symptoms of
ulcers, yeah, and then a lot oftimes some of the symptoms don't
may or may not match up withwhat they look like on camera
too.
We get some that we think maybehe's got ulcers, let's check.
(19:41):
And we get in there and they'reterrible.
You wonder why this thing'seven still eating yeah, yeah.
And have you ever had heartburn?
No, you're probably too youngfor that.
I never had heartburn until Ihad kids, but I think it was
last winter.
I woke up in the middle of thenight and had heartburn and I
couldn't lay down.
I had to sit up in a chair likethis and I just ate crackers
(20:03):
from about midnight until I hadto go to work.
From about midnight till I hadto go to work, and all I could
think of was all of those horsesthat we've scoped and I was
like man.
If somebody put a saddle on meand tightened it around my chest
right now, I'd probably punchthem in the face.
And these horses' paintolerance it varies, but they're
really good at hiding pain.
So I think that's somethingthat kudos to you guys for
(20:28):
recognizing.
Like hey, I think something'soff with this horse.
Yeah, but when you know a horse, like you know Chip, you can
tell when when things are off.
Yeah, for sure, so I'm hopingour scope is clean, and today
you were going home with a.
I think there are 11 poundsyeah, 11 and a half pounds of
ProTech GI.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Awesome.
We can definitely use that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We reached out to these companies and told them we
were fortunate enough and inthe position we could sponsor
some kids, and the response wegot was awesome.
They loved it and they all.
Just the next thing we knew, wehad all these boxes from all
these great companies with abunch of stuff.
So you're going to get somehats, some towels, lots of
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stickers, water bottles, theprotect gi backpacks I think
there's a pulse vet t-shirt inthere awesome and pulse vets,
the shock wave and, if Iremember right, you got to
shockwave reno a couple times,didn't?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's pretty cool yeah and, I think, a lot of
people.
The term shockwave is a littlebit misleading.
When I first heard about it Iwas thinking we were shocking
these horses.
But do you remember what?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
what it actually is it's like electromagnetic pulses
or something it's actually anacoustic sound wave that's
hitting the horse.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It uses um electricity, like a high voltage
components and a high voltagespark plug, to generate a sound
wave, and what they've figuredout is how to direct it where it
doesn't just scatter, to directit in one direction, and that
we can control the depth of it.
So if we're doing somethingreally superficial like a wound,
(22:06):
we can hit that, and then wecan even go 80 millimeters down
there and treat SI joints andstuff like that.
That's awesome.
Yeah, we've had a lot of goodluck with that.
And then there's Hilltop Biosent some stuff.
They are in the amnion market.
They make some really coolstuff.
(22:26):
The stridoflex is stuff we canput in joints, regenoflex is
stuff we can put in tendons andwe can do regional lymph
perfusions, and they make stufffor eyes and wounds, and that's
that's some of the most recentstuff we've got.
And then, um, also noltrex,which is a synthetic
(22:46):
polyacrylamide hydrogel thatlubricates stuff.
So, like I said, the market outthere there's so much that we
can keep these horses going with, and especially if we get
bright young kids like you tolearn even more about the rehab
and stuff like that.
That'll be awesome and I thinkthere'll be a lot of
opportunities at horse clinicsfor that too, for ones we're
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rehabbing or that have an injurythat we really need somebody
that knows what they're doing,that can that can help rehab
these horses.
Yeah, we've learned a lot aboutthat in the past decade or so.
You know, used to it was.
Your horse has a tendon injurywell, put them in a stall for
six weeks or six months.
Now we know the importance ofit was.
Your horse has a tendon injuryWell, put him in a stall for six
weeks or six months.
Now we know the importance ofkeeping that horse moving and
(23:33):
everything.
So we got the backpack for youstuff full of all of this stuff
Awesome.
We got patches for you, we gotstickers and then anything you
need.
You just let us know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah Well, thanks, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, well, thanks for stopping by.
Yeah, we'll hopefully have youback and maybe we can learn more
about silversmithing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
My mom used to make jewelry.
Oh, really Not.
I don't know if it was silveror not, but it's pretty fun.
Yeah, she had one of dad's oldgun cabinets.
It's converted to a jewelrycase.
That that's all stuff she'smade.
So, and dad's doing leatherwork, did you?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
know that?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
no, I didn't yeah, maybe you guys could yeah
collaborate, make somethingreally cool yeah, that could be
that'll be available this yearat the cowboy christmas right?
So, shaylin, thanks so muchyeah, thank you guys, I hope you
enjoy the rest of your summerand I hope chip's ulcers are
healed up yes, me too and I hopenext time you're here you show
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us a big old belt buckle right,yeah, that's the plan all right.
Well, thanks for tuning in anduntil next time, take care of
your horses and yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Retina surgeon or start to come quick.
Draw the syringe and give it aflick.
Bring your little black bagwith the medicines in.
Bring the tranq and the crankand the penicillin.
All right, we got Shailen Rowland here.
How are you, Shailen Good?
How are you Good?
Thanks for coming by today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, thanks for the opportunity.
I'm really excited.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, thanks for accepting our sponsorship this
year.
Are you pretty excited aboutsome stuff coming up?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's been an exciting summer and so
hopefully we're going to keepdoing that and have a good
winter too.
Yeah, where are you going next?
Um, let's, I guess we have abunch of barrel races coming up
about every weekend and somewhippoorwill rodeos and some
youth rodeos awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And how old are you?
I'm 16 16, because you drovehere yourself today did yep, and
mom let you drive all the waydown yep, she did well, that's
because she trusts you.
You're a good kid.
Let's talk a minute aboutPotato Chip.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, how's he doing?
He's doing better, is he?
Yep, I think we finally are onthe right track and he's feeling
lots better.
Good.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Potato Chip unfortunately got diagnosed with
some gastric ulcers this yearand they have been a booger to
fix like a lot of.
The glandular ulcers are One ofour first podcasts.
We explain gastric ulcersyndrome in horses, if you guys
want to listen to that.
So how old is chip now?
(01:13):
He's 13 and you've got.
You've had him for how long?
Four years, four years.
He is really cool.
We all like potato chip yeah,he is pretty cool is that his
full name name Potato Chip or?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
just.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Chip.
Okay, so what all events do youdo on Chip?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I do barrel racing and breakaway roping.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, we had another girl in here earlier.
What's?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
your fastest time with a breakaway.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you want to do?
I mean, you want to be as fastas you can be.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
She said something like some people are two seconds
.
Is that true?
Yeah, that's so fast,definitely yeah.
Do they even get out of the boxor do they just rope it?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean like one swing and go, I guess that's awesome.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So if Chip could have a superpower, what do you think
it would be, or what would yougive him?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You can answer that however you want.
I don't know.
He's already kind of quirky andit seems like he has
superpowers.
I don't know, probably not gethurt.
He seems he's really good atdoing that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I would give him an iron stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, that too.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I would prefer not to have to scope him again.
Stomach, yeah, that's up to me.
Yeah, yeah, I would not.
I would prefer not to have toscope him again yeah, that would
be nice, but I think.
I think we're almost there,yeah, and I think the protect gi
is gonna gonna help prevent anymore.
You got any big goals this yearas far as rodeo goes, you're
doing a series or anything yeah,I have.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've started a lot of goals for my young horse.
I have a four-year-old at homeand he's getting ready to go to
roping school for a couplemonths, so I'm really excited
about him and my goal is to havehim going to start my winter
season on him for littlebritches rodeos and hopefully
use him to get me qualified forlittle britches nationals for
this time next year okay, yeah,because that's coming up next
(03:05):
week?
Yes, I think it starts nextweek.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, so you said roping school, yes.
What do you mean by?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
that he's going to our good friend Larry Darnell's
and he's going to spend at leasta month there getting started
on his breakaway career.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, well, he's going to the right place.
Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, that'll be well , he's going to the right place.
Yeah, yeah, we went last nightand roped and Larry seemed to
think a lot of him.
So I'm excited, I'm reallyexcited about him.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's good, and how long have you had him?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I got him in February .
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh, so not very long, yeah, not very long.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Was he broke, I guess , when you got him, or not?
Yeah, when I got.
So he has a good start, justready to be polished and given a
job.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, and put in an arena, yes, and put you in the
winner's circle.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes, exactly, that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, you also have a new venture.
You're taking on a new business.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And what are you calling it?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's called.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Ranchy, but F silver co.
That is awesome and it'ssilversmithing.
Yes, would you like to definesilversmithing?
I know you and I we're havingtechnical difficulties by the
name of john.
Anyways, we were talking aboutsilversmithing and I was
explaining that you and I knowwhat that, what that is, but
would you like to explain tojohn what silversmithing is?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
yeah.
So I guess you could say it'skind of like welding on a
miniature level kind of.
So I do a lot of soldering ofsilver together, sometimes
copper and make.
I make jewelry and for, likeour horse people, conchos and
head stall buckles and beltbuckles and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh, and I, I saw I just liked your Facebook page.
You have a Facebook, people cango follow.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yes, ranchy, but Fancy Silver Cup on Facebook.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
My kids are going to love that.
Yes, there's a show on.
I don't even know what showit's on, but it's called Fancy
Nancy and it's all about thislittle girl that fancies
everything.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I used.
It was a noob, and I saw someturquoise.
Yes, you're doing a lot withturquoise.
Yes, that's popular, it is.
So where do you source yoursilver?
Are you mining that yourself?
Is there any mines in SouthernIllinois?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm not and not that I know of there might be, but I
get it from different wholesaledealers on line.
How did you get into this?
Just something you wanted to do, or yeah, I've always kind of
had, I've always liked turquoisejewelry and you'd like unique
pieces, and now it's gettingpopular in the horse tech world,
(05:33):
and I had a good friend that Iwent to school with.
She lives not too far from meand she started a silversmithing
business back in 2020 and thenshe recently came out with an
online course to teach you howto do it.
So that's how I learned from mygood friend Lindsay Lehman.
She put out the course and Itook it and it taught me a lot,
and so then we kind of justjumped in and went with it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Online courses are taking over everything, yeah
they really are.
I think, John, you did someonline courses for learning how
to set up all this podcast stuff.
You did some on your own.
And then John Heron over atJust Say hey, he helped us do a
bunch of this stuff.
So shout out to John Heron atJust Say hey, Hopefully the rain
stops and he can get in thehayfield suit.
(06:14):
I know all the farmers are.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And you live about.
What an hour north of here.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, it's like exactly an hour.
Yeah, you guys have had a lotof rain too.
Yeah, yeah, this is.
I just went to the pharmacy thehuman pharmacy to get the
sacrophate we like, yeah, andran into a farmer there and he
said he's never remembered ajune this wet ever yeah, no,
it's been hard, for I mean, wegot to cut our hay when there
was a little window for thefirst time, and now the rain,
(06:43):
and it's good.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We want it to grow now, but we're gonna have to get
in there and cut it again rightit's also been hard for these
outdoor rodeos oh yeah being inthe mud all the time and yeah,
will they.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Will they cancel if it gets too muddy, or they just?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
it depends.
I mean, a lot of the amateurrodeos around here won't.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
But do you still compete if it's super muddy?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, not right now, not with Chip, I'm too picky
with him.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't blame you.
We see a lot of injuries fromnot good footing, and not only
to the horse, but people too.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I ran at a rodeo last weekend and it didn't look bad,
but two or three horses fell.
It can happen anywhere.
You a horse can get injuredanywhere, but you definitely
don't want to put on like anextra chance of getting it your
horses are very good at gettinghurt, yeah, without any other
bad factors to to get in there.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So how long have you been riding?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
um, I rode pretty much my entire life.
My mom, she, grew up showinghorses and barrel racing, so as
soon as I could I was on a horse.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
When did you start competing and doing barrels and
stuff like that?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, first I started competing in like the horse
show world.
I showed pleasure and stufflike that and a lot of fun shows
for H and I did that when Iprobably started that when I was
around four or five.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And then I started.
I got my first barrel horse andstarted barrel racing and
rodeoing when I was around 11 or12.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, who was your first horse?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Her name was Reno.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh, I remember Reno.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yep, she spent a lot of time here.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yep, she was a little .
She was well-seasoned.
Yes, yep, and did you learn alot from Reno?
I?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
did she taught me so much about so many different
things, not just riding andbarrel racing?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do you still have her .
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, we recently gave her away to a little girl that
just wanted a pasture pet, soshe's just getting rode and rode
bareback around the yard andgetting brushed.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
She's living the best retirement.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, she is, I go see her some.
She's living a good life.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That best retirement?
Yes, she is, I get to.
I go see her some.
Yeah, she's living a good life.
That's awesome.
I bought a retired slashinjured horse for my girls and I
send the old owner pictures allthe time.
We get attached to these thingsand you really want them to go
someplace that'll take care ofthem yes, yeah not, you know not
.
We see a lot of horse tradersand people that are always and I
understand that from the thetraining and business aspect of
(09:08):
it.
But especially when a younggirl is involved, you get their
family?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So that's good news for Reno.
Yeah, what are some of yourgoals outside of the rodeo this
year?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, definitely keep going with my business and kind
of get the word out with that,be successful with it.
I'm really active in my localFFA chapter in Mount Vernon and
so I do a lot with that.
I'm currently serving as thereporter.
I'm also on the section 21 FFAofficer team.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I'm the section reporter as well, so I'm be
really busy with that and I hopeto get to do more competitions
and do well with FFA.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Where is the?
What is the mottos for FFA?
Like stationed by the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, so, like as a reporter, I'm stationed by the
flag.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Stationed by the flag .
I almost said that, which one'sstationed by the door.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sentinel, that was me .
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's what I did.
I like the idea of being by thedoor so I could leave, yeah,
but I did a lot in FFA growingup.
I think that is a great, evenfor kids that aren't
agricultural backgrounds.
I think they do so much forleadership and team building.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, there's definitely something for
everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I know, I think we're section 25 down here.
I think so yeah, whatever thatmeans.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's all the state sections yeah, there's 25
sections, I believe, and fivedistricts okay yeah, I remember
a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In fact, I want to get my old ffa advisor in here
yeah, that would be fun yeah,and he's.
He's kind of old and bitter now, so I think it'd be really
really fun.
Um, who are some of your heroesright now in the rodeo world,
whether they're local ornational, or who are you looking
up to these days?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
As far as like is what most people would call the
professionals, the people thatare pro rodeoing now or even
used to.
I really look up to SherryServi.
I like the way that she ridesand how she handles her horses.
I like the way her horses moveand I watch a lot of her
podcasts that she does or anyvideos that she puts out on
YouTube.
I like watching how she trainsher horses and you know they're
(11:24):
team roping horses before therail horses and they're really
all around and have a goodfoundation and that's what I
like to see in my horses, and soI really look up to her in the
way she does.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Are you thinking about?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
team roping at all.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, maybe here and there a little bit yeah
well, you know where to go,yeah, where your horse is gonna
be.
Larry taught me and my brotherhow to rope from a young age and
I still think if he put Ihaven't roped in, oh, probably
15, maybe 20 years, I think ifhe put me on a good heel horse I
could go catch two feet.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Because he didn't teach me how to miss.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And I did a lot of.
Does he still make people dopush-ups?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh yeah, I do push-ups and run yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I used to think that I think he gets just big
square bales now, but it used tobe the small square bales now,
but it used to be the smallsquare bales and me and my
brother hauled a lot of hay forhim.
So I think he made us dopushups and do all that because
he was training his hay crew sowe could get done quicker.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Maybe.
So yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Where can people buy your jewelry?
Because I want to get some,yeah, so right now on Facebook,
I'll be posting.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'll post pieces that I have already made available,
and then I also am doing a lotof custom work.
So if you have something like acustom piece in mind that you
want, message me and I candefinitely do it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Awesome, I'm going to get some.
So that first horse, Reno didyou win anything good on her?
Do you remember what's the bestmemory of you and Reno?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's a tough question know it is, I don't know
honestly, and this might kind ofseem odd, but, like I said, she
taught me not only a lot aboutbraille racing, but she you know
, we were here at the vet a lotand that's kind of what sparked
my interest of veterinarymedicine and that's kind of what
sparked my interest ofveterinary medicine and that's
kind of what started.
I'm like, hey, I kind of wantto have a career in this, so
(13:19):
that's kind of like my favoritething about her is that she
taught me a lot about what Iwant to do for the rest of my
life and what do you want to doafter high school?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
want to work in equine sports medicine.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Awesome rehab oh, and you can get certified in that.
Now there's lots of places andthe rehab is really taking off
because we are seeing more andmore older horses.
My dad always tells a storywhen he first started one of the
first rope horses he worked onbecause this was primarily
racehorses back in the day thathe was working on, one of the
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first rope horses he worked onwas like a teenager, like 15 or
16.
And the guy wanted to doeverything he could and I
remember my dad telling me likewhy does he want to spend all
this money on this old horse?
And now it's like 15 is nothing.
There's a lot of horses in theirmid-20s that we work on that
are still competing and winning,and a lot of that is the
(14:14):
advancements we've made andknowledge as far as how to take
care of them, preventative stuffand 20 years ago we had
steroids that's what we put injoints.
Now we have I can't even keepup with everything.
So there's a lot of theregenerative stuff.
So I think by the time you getto where you want to go, there's
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going to be so much more thatwe can do for these horses to
keep them going which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I'm so excited.
I enjoy coming here with myhorses and I've got to learn a
lot about equine medicine andthe whole rehab and keeping
older horses sound for as longas you can and keeping them
feeling good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yep, and the old adage no foot, no horse.
You've got to be here onfarrier days and watch Steve
Summershine work his magic.
We're fortunate he's come downhere and he's been coming here
long enough.
It's been fun to watch thesehorses with.
I guess you just call them badfeet and then watch.
(15:17):
You know know the termcorrective shoeing gets thrown
around, but just correct shoeingwith the biomechanics and how
that foot's supposed to beshaped and how it's supposed to
be used.
It's fun to watch horses thathe's taken from what people just
say, oh he has bad feet togetting them healthy and
watching them.
From what people just say, ohhe has bad feet to getting them
healthy and watching them grow.
So never take a good farrier forgranted, and there's not too
(15:39):
many farriers around.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Because that is have you ever pulled shoes or
anything like that?
No, that's about as far as Iwill go with shoeing.
I can pull a shoe, but thoseguys, they're just built
different, they're tough.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And they wrestle 100-pound animals all day and
beat steel.
Yeah, those aren't the guys youwant to tangle with.
Not that you'd ever get in afight, but if anybody wants to
pick a fight, don't pick a fightwith a farrier probably.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Odds are, they're tougher than you.
If you could trade places withanybody in the rodeo world right
now, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know, probably Jackie Crawford.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And who is Jackie Crawford?
Do you want to tell us abouther?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, she is a professional breakaway roper and
I think she might be thewinningest breakaway roper in
history.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Do you know how old she is?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Maybe John can find out yeah.
Find out how old she is.
John, yeah, and there's a lotof I don't want to say old women
, but older people that arestill competing and going.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, there's definitely a handful of
professional breakaway ropersthat I really look up to because
they've paved the way to getbreakaway as one of the
professional events of rodeo.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it was in the NFR this year.
Right, yeah, was that right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, yeah, it's not officially in the Thomas and Mac
yet, but it is in the NFR.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I guess you could say yeah, it'll get there, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I hope so.
I know they signed the contractso at least it won't be for the
next.
I think it was for six years iswhat the contract was.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, but hopefully soon yeah, and you've got to go
to the NFR, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
yes, I've been twice, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And what did you think of Thomas and Mac when you
walked in it's?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
so cool?
Yeah, it's definitely.
It's smaller than I mean.
It looks small on TV, but it'ssmaller than you would think
that's what everybody says.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's yeah, I haven't got to go, but my
brother and dad have been, andthat was their reaction.
Like it's way smaller than itlooks yeah, and the energy is
crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like it's so small and there's so many people and
the energy is so high, like it'spretty cool.
I definitely it's one of myfavorite places I've ever been
in las vegas.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I've been in las vegas during the nfr but I
didn't get to go.
But that whole town, like whatdo they call that?
The cowboy christmas thing?
Yeah, did you go to that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
it's crazy yeah, there's so cowboy christmas,
christmas is all the shopping,and so they have like the main
convention center and thenseveral of the hotels.
They also have their ownshopping, and then out at south
point they have the team ropingI think some sort of team roping
world finals out there and thenthey also have a lot of
shopping there too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, you think ranchy but fancy will be set up
there someday selling stuff.
I don't know, maybe.
I guess we'll see when you'renot, when you're not competing
in the bar you can go.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, there we go, sell your silver.
Sounds like a great plan, yeahI love it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So I think, uh, we're gonna check potato chip again
in a couple weeks yes and Ireally hope, his ulcers yeah, me
too are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, he acts like he's feeling a lot better, so
hopefully that shows on thescope yeah, what were some of
the signs that you noticed?
that said, hey, you know, maybewe should scope him yeah,
overall, I mean, he's pretty agood, friendly, nice horse and
he was just kind of being kindof grouchy and not himself
didn't really want you messingwith him, which is unusual, like
(19:11):
, and when I would tighten hissaddle he was kind of cinchy and
didn't like to be messed withand he would hold his tail out
away from him, like when I'mloping circles.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
He would want to break down and act like you know
kind of gassy and just hold histail out and not really wanting
to go yeah, there's so manydifferent signs or symptoms of
ulcers, yeah, and then a lot oftimes some of the symptoms don't
may or may not match up withwhat they look like on camera
too.
We get some that we think maybehe's got ulcers, let's check.
(19:41):
And we get in there and they'reterrible.
You wonder why this thing'seven still eating yeah, yeah.
And have you ever had heartburn?
No, you're probably too youngfor that.
I never had heartburn until Ihad kids, but I think it was
last winter.
I woke up in the middle of thenight and had heartburn and I
couldn't lay down.
I had to sit up in a chair likethis and I just ate crackers
(20:03):
from about midnight until I hadto go to work.
From about midnight till I hadto go to work, and all I could
think of was all of those horsesthat we've scoped and I was
like man.
If somebody put a saddle on meand tightened it around my chest
right now, I'd probably punchthem in the face.
And these horses' paintolerance it varies, but they're
really good at hiding pain.
So I think that's somethingthat kudos to you guys for
(20:28):
recognizing.
Like hey, I think something'soff with this horse.
Yeah, but when you know a horse, like you know Chip, you can
tell when when things are off.
Yeah, for sure, so I'm hopingour scope is clean, and today
you were going home with a.
I think there are 11 poundsyeah, 11 and a half pounds of
ProTech GI.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Awesome.
We can definitely use that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We reached out to these companies and told them we
were fortunate enough and inthe position we could sponsor
some kids, and the response wegot was awesome.
They loved it and they all.
Just the next thing we knew, wehad all these boxes from all
these great companies with abunch of stuff.
So you're going to get somehats, some towels, lots of
(21:12):
stickers, water bottles, theprotect gi backpacks I think
there's a pulse vet t-shirt inthere awesome and pulse vets,
the shock wave and, if Iremember right, you got to
shockwave reno a couple times,didn't?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's pretty cool yeah and, I think, a lot of
people.
The term shockwave is a littlebit misleading.
When I first heard about it Iwas thinking we were shocking
these horses.
But do you remember what?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
what it actually is it's like electromagnetic pulses
or something it's actually anacoustic sound wave that's
hitting the horse.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It uses um electricity, like a high voltage
components and a high voltagespark plug, to generate a sound
wave, and what they've figuredout is how to direct it where it
doesn't just scatter, to directit in one direction, and that
we can control the depth of it.
So if we're doing somethingreally superficial like a wound,
(22:06):
we can hit that, and then wecan even go 80 millimeters down
there and treat SI joints andstuff like that.
That's awesome.
Yeah, we've had a lot of goodluck with that.
And then there's Hilltop Biosent some stuff.
They are in the amnion market.
They make some really coolstuff.
(22:26):
The stridoflex is stuff we canput in joints, regenoflex is
stuff we can put in tendons andwe can do regional lymph
perfusions, and they make stufffor eyes and wounds, and that's
that's some of the most recentstuff we've got.
And then, um, also noltrex,which is a synthetic
(22:46):
polyacrylamide hydrogel thatlubricates stuff.
So, like I said, the market outthere there's so much that we
can keep these horses going with, and especially if we get
bright young kids like you tolearn even more about the rehab
and stuff like that.
That'll be awesome and I thinkthere'll be a lot of
opportunities at horse clinicsfor that too, for ones we're
(23:11):
rehabbing or that have an injurythat we really need somebody
that knows what they're doing,that can that can help rehab
these horses.
Yeah, we've learned a lot aboutthat in the past decade or so.
You know, used to it was.
Your horse has a tendon injurywell, put them in a stall for
six weeks or six months.
Now we know the importance ofit was.
Your horse has a tendon injuryWell, put him in a stall for six
weeks or six months.
Now we know the importance ofkeeping that horse moving and
(23:33):
everything.
So we got the backpack for youstuff full of all of this stuff
Awesome.
We got patches for you, we gotstickers and then anything you
need.
You just let us know.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah Well, thanks, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, well, thanks for stopping by.
Yeah, we'll hopefully have youback and maybe we can learn more
about silversmithing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
My mom used to make jewelry.
Oh, really Not.
I don't know if it was silveror not, but it's pretty fun.
Yeah, she had one of dad's oldgun cabinets.
It's converted to a jewelrycase.
That that's all stuff she'smade.
So, and dad's doing leatherwork, did you?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
know that?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
no, I didn't yeah, maybe you guys could yeah
collaborate, make somethingreally cool yeah, that could be
that'll be available this yearat the cowboy christmas right?
So, shaylin, thanks so muchyeah, thank you guys, I hope you
enjoy the rest of your summerand I hope chip's ulcers are
healed up yes, me too and I hopenext time you're here you show
(24:33):
us a big old belt buckle right,yeah, that's the plan all right.
Well, thanks for tuning in anduntil next time, take care of
your horses and yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Retina surgeon or start to come quick.
Draw the syringe and give it aflick.
Bring your little black bagwith the medicines in.
Bring the tranq and the crankand the penicillin.
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