April 22, 2025 • 29 mins
Spring has sprung in the equine world, bringing with it a fresh set of challenges that even veterinarians aren't immune to. Dr. Travis Beasley pulls back the curtain on veterinary life during the busiest season, sharing his personal Easter weekend adventures before diving into the professional realities facing horse owners and practitioners alike.
The heart of this episode centers on Dr. Beasley's own experience treating his miniature horse for founder (laminitis)—a painful condition that developed despite taking every preventative measure possible. With remarkable transparency, he walks through his comprehensive treatment protocol, from anti-inflammatory medications and specialized supplements to an advanced regional limb perfusion procedure that provided significant relief. This rare glimpse into a veterinarian becoming the client offers valuable insights for any horse owner facing similar metabolic challenges with their animals.
Between sharing updates on the clinic's new website launch and merchandise line, Dr. Beasley delivers a passionate warning about the "quackery" proliferating on social media. His straightforward advice cuts through misleading marketing claims: "If you see something that seems too good to be true, it is." This segment serves as a crucial reminder to consult veterinary professionals before investing in unproven products or treatments.
Perhaps most valuable for horse owners is the candid discussion about spring scheduling challenges in equine practice. With breeding season, spring wellness visits, and emergencies colliding, Dr. Beasley explains why many clinics are booked weeks in advance and offers practical advice for securing timely care. The episode concludes with a thoughtful exploration of proposed mid-level veterinary practitioners and a preview of upcoming detailed episodes on laminitis and equine reproduction.
Whether you're managing a horse with metabolic issues, navigating the scheduling crunch of spring, or simply curious about life behind the scenes of an equine practice, this episode delivers authentic veterinary wisdom straight from the horse doctor's mouth. Subscribe, share with fellow horse owners, and visit BeasleyEquine.com for more resources to keep your equine partners healthy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, welcome to the Beasley Equine Podcast.
I'm your host and equineveterinarian, dr Travis Beasley,
episode 12,.
Just coming off Easter weekendI actually went on Easter egg
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hunt myself.
I got two kids, six and threeand everybody decided to bring a
ton of eggs.
I bet there was four or fivekids hunting eggs and there was
probably 150 eggs out there.
So the dad tax took most of theSkittles and Twizzlers and
other things I like.
So I'm coming off a bit of asugar rush.
Yesterday I try not to eat toomuch sugar because it's super
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inflammatory, but we did.
My wife's cousin turned 21, sowe had an adult easter egg hunt.
We got the big easter eggs.
I bought some little littleairplane bottles of booze,
lottery tickets, dollar billsand we let the young kids hide
them.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Really, really good and they thought that was a
blast, so did that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Drove for a few hours on 57 saturday and sunday.
Anybody that's been on 57 knowsit sucks.
Traffic was insane yesterday.
All the semis saw some horsetrailers too, and people just
don't have any respect for thosethings.
So so cut them off, get rightin front of them on the
interstate.
But what are you going to do?
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I'd listen to a bunch ofpodcasts on the way.
I think I'm going to dive backin to the whole.
Health and longevity thing Ikind of fell off the wagon this
winter, ate like a slob, dranklike a slob.
I think I'm going to get backin there.
I really want to get a saunaand, like the red light therapy,
I'm thinking about even doingcold plunges, which I'm on the
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fence about.
They got a lot of benefits, butI'm pretty nervous about those.
So I don't know, john, you everdone a cold plunge?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
no, that's one thing I'm super hesitant of.
It just doesn't look like fun Iknow it's good for you, but
it'd take me.
I'd have to do it quite a fewtimes before I was okay with it
yeah, I have to be something Iwas forced to do, like every day
for a week, like you have to doit or else I just wouldn't do
it because that sounds miserable.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't like to get in my shower before it's hot no,
I don't either, but I guess thedopamine rush you get from that
lasts like four or five hours,so I might try it there's stuff
too, like with the skincare allinvolved with it, and I mean
there's a bunch of positives toit, but I, I just don't like
being cold.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, if I do it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We'll probably have to video it and you guys can see
how big of a wuss I am withcold water.
Oh, what else is going on?
Oh, the new transmission in theSuburban started slipping in
first gear, mainly going uphill,so I got to find time in the
schedule to take that back.
It did okay on the way homeyesterday but I got to try to
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get that done.
I got an insurance audit to dofor workman's comp.
That I don't understand any ofthe lingo.
I don't know much aboutbusiness.
I just want to work on horses.
But the joys of owning a smallbusiness.
But our website will be up soon.
I got a page sent to me theother day to look at the setup
of everything and I really likeit.
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So it's going to be.
We had BeasleyEquineCliniccom.
It's been defunct for almost 18months now.
We don't we haven't reallyneeded it, I guess.
But the new one's going to beBeasleyEquinecom and it's going
to be a central location for thepodcast and YouTube videos and
how-to videos and probably dolike a blog type thing on there.
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And so some of our emails willchange.
We'll all have emails, you know, like Travis at
BeasleyEquineCliniccom.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
BeasleyEquinecom.
Beasleyequinecom.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, I made the website the original one when I
was working in Texas onsomething and it's yeah, the new
one's going to be a lot betterthan what we had.
Um, we'll have a bunch of merchon there too, which is going to
be pretty neat, yeah theprintify store, which is it's
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our custom stuff that we design,but we don't have to keep the
stock right we just it's kind ofmade to order yeah, and it's uh
.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's cool too, because on our site you can go
on printify and you can click onthere who you want to make your
items, and so we have selectedon ours that all of our items
are produced in the unitedstates as well oh good and so
you're not going to ordersomething and have to wait six
weeks on something that's comingfrom some print shop in China
where it's going to be halfcrooked.
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They're all small print shopsand family owned companies and
things like that that sign upfor Printify, and so when your
order goes into them, it goes toall these different little
companies all over the US.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's pretty neat, so there's.
No, you don't have to order 10of them, you can just order one
T-shirt.
Oh good, cool it's pretty neat.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So there's.
No, you don't have to order 10of them, you can just order one
t-shirt.
Oh good, and you've designed alot of neat stuff with, like,
the shawnee national forest andgarden of the gods and stuff
like that kind of highlightingsouthern illinois and or what is
eddieville, the trail ridingcapital of the world probably.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I mean there's more trails here than anywhere I've
been across the country.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, so I had Facebook blocked on my phone for
a while.
I've got an app I forgot whatit's called but I had to do
push-ups to unlock it and Icould set it to like do 10
push-ups to unlock it for aminute.
But the last round of stormsthat came through I took it off
of that app so I could watch thelive meteorologist to know
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whether or not a tornado wasgoing to wipe out our house.
But I've failed to put it backin lock mode.
So I've spent more time onfacebook the past couple weeks
than then I should.
But I started watching some ofthese videos from horse stuff
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and there is just so muchquackery on there.
If you see a video on facebookand it seems too good to be true
, it is there's nothing that'sgonna fix colic with just a tube
or prevent it.
Don't buy into that stuff.
Or if you see something thatsounds interesting, write down
what they said and ask your vetabout it, because a lot of the
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people on facebook are justreally good at marketing and
there's not much science there.
Even some of the people onFacebook are just really good at
marketing and there's not muchscience there, even some of the
very popular products.
They'll show before and afterx-rays.
The before x-ray looks like agreat diagnostic film.
The after x-ray the one I sawit had a blue tinge to it and it
was taken at an oblique angle,so the lesion was even covered
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up by artifact.
But people bought it andthey're like, oh my, it looks so
much better.
I'm gonna buy this for my wholeherd and not that most.
Most of these supplementsaren't going to hurt anything
except your checkbook.
But really, before you dive inand start buying stuff online,
call your vet, talk to them.
We'll talk you off the ledge ona lot of this, and then we can
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usually recommend somethingthat's got some science behind
it that works.
And man the Facebook post withAI.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They're getting crazy .
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Everything I saw the little star emojis on each side
of the first sentence.
Nobody does that.
That's chat, gpt.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
don't ask us how we know that not saying we don't
use ai, but it's a good uh it'sa good starting point.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's not a good finishing point, right, you just
put it in and blast it outthere, copy and paste what other
.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They like the star emojis.
They always say journey yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm 100x times sure that a lot of companies are
using it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, I like what you did there.
Oh, John, over at, when's thedrawing for the free hay?
May 1st.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
May 1st at noon.
John over at Just Say Hay isgoing to do that yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
They're launching a new fertilizer program called
Field Forward, and in honor ofthat, he said I think I'm just
going to give away free hay fora year for a horse.
So it's 10 of those big alfalfabales.
That's what I fed to my horsesthis winter.
They all look good.
And then there's some secondprizes too, I think second place
five of those bales.
Third place is a oral anddental exam here at beasley
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equine clinic.
Go to justsayheycomj-u-s-t-s-a-y-h-a-ycom and you
can enter on there.
It's super easy then.
If, after you enter, I thinkyou can scroll down, and if you
like his facebook, subscribe tohis youtube, follow his podcast,
you can get some bonus entriestoo.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
There was quite a few entries last time, but pretty
good odds For a lifetime supplyof hay.
I think there's 174 people init right now.
A year, not a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh, that'd be nice.
John's very generous, but Idon't know about that.
Speaking of hay, I'm feeding mymini hay again.
I tried turning him out ongrass and the inevitable
happened.
Despite my best efforts, hefoundered again this spring, so
he's locked up.
I made a little stall on theYouTube with my electric fence
tape and I think I shockedmyself seven times this weekend
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doing that.
But it works.
So I've been an owner, doingeverything I tell these owners
to do.
I got them on Butte.
I got them on metformin.
Metformin is a medication A lotof diabetics take it, like the
diabetics that are managed, thehuman diabetics that are managed
by a pill.
That's usually what they take.
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So I've got them on that theButte.
For an anti-inflammatory, I'vegot a stall bedded super-duper
deep.
I was soaking the hay to drawthe sugars out.
I got them on a product calledInsulinWise, which is a natural
supplement, a lot of naturalanti-inflammatories in it, and
there is some good sciencebehind it that shows it does
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lower blood insulin in some ofthese guys and he was.
He was really sore, startedimproving and then kind of
plateaued.
And friday we had some extratime because of a cancellation,
so we went out there me, johnand autumn and did a video.
We did a regional limbperfusion with regeniflex rt,
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which is an Amnion product madefrom Hilltop Bio, and we did
that roughly 10 o'clock in themorning after work, after I got
everything to make the electricfence stall and stuff for this
weekend.
With the weather coming in,that's the most.
I saw him walk around thatafternoon.
He was walking pretty good.
I was gone Saturday morningmorning till sunday night and
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last night I checked him.
His digital pulses are way downand he's turning on the left
one which was the bad one.
I could pick up both feet andhe stood there.
He didn't, didn't rock back.
But because of the extra timefriday, we also videoed
everything.
So they'll be a pretty coolvideo coming out showing another
regional limb, kind of talkingabout the product, and you get
to see my little mini namedSpazzy and it's pretty cool.
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I think my dog Doug and Romanmade their debut but he's been
on Butte for 10 or 12 days.
But I also put him on somestuff to protect his stomach
Because we all know, if you'velistened to the Eat Gus lecture,
some stuff to protect hisstomach because we all know if
you've listened to the e-gusslecture.
Inseds and stress are a verygood combination for your horse
to get stomach ulcers.
So I've got them on the purinaoutlast, which is it's just a
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little pellet you top dress hisfeed with.
It's basically just calcium,but they source it from a marine
source, which is some type ofseaweed, and this calcium is
super like honeycombed and itactually buffers the acid in the
stomach way longer than justalfalfa.
And I've also got them onProtec GI, which is a protectant
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for mainly the bottom half ofthe stomach where we see a lot
of ulcers from the butan stress.
It forms an alkaline sludgedown there.
I've been super happy with thatproduct.
Some of these ulcers that we'retreating, if we, if we hit a
stall, we've added that in thereand it seems like that's the,
that's the icing on the cake toget that extra, extra boost up
there.
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Hannah that works in the office.
She had one that was veryrefractory to our all of our
treatment and once we startedthat protech gi it made all the
difference in the world.
So anybody out there that I'veprescribed all this stuff for
these foundered horses, I feelyour pain and we have to do it.
And the other thing to that isit happens.
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Don't beat yourself up.
I took every precaution I could.
He stayed at a good body weightall winter.
I limited his time grazing.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But here we are, it happened and then for everybody
listening to um or watching onyoutube.
We'll put everything that youtreated spazzy with in the notes
um down below and that waypeople can kind of get an idea
of everything that you did.
So if they do have one founder,they can see all the steps to
take and I'll put a link to allthe products and everything that
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you used.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and it won't be an exhaustive list.
There's tons of other stuff outthere.
Um, if he wasn't any bettertoday, I was going to add
something like isoxaprin orpentoxyfiling.
Those are drugs that kind of.
They call them them rheologicagents.
You'll hear them say theyincrease blood flow.
They may or may not, but that'skind of a real simple way of
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thinking about it.
They'll kind of increase thatblood flow to and from these
places that we're worried aboutand with laminitis that's a huge
thing.
It's getting the blood flow tothat foot and get the
inflammation out.
Because as that coffin bonechanges and he's already rotated
we'd x-rayed him when he got it.
He's a repeat offender for forfounder.
When that bone moods in there,it can really compress some of
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the, some of the vasculature tothat foot and then decrease the
circulation down there.
So a lot of what we do is tryto increase circulation, get the
, get the inflammation out, sobut I'm happy to report he's
doing good.
So the kids will probably be onhim next, next weekend, and
then he'll slowly get back withthe grazing muzzle and we have
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insulin.
We can test in-house, so I'llkind of track his insulin, wean
him off the meds, probably keepthem on the insulin wise and
stuff like that.
He's doing well.
My thoroughbred marrow we bredis open Got that news a couple
weeks ago, so I guess we'regoing to try again, which all of
you in the breeding world knows.
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It just takes money One moreshipment every time.
They ship it, but it is what itis.
So myself, a veterinarian, andmy friend who is a farrier, own
this horse and so far we'repaying a vet to breed her and
we've paid another farrier toshoe her.
So I kind of thought we'd keepour margin pretty low, taking
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care of stuff ourselves.
But it just doesn't work out.
Usually the farriers and vets'horses are the last ones to get
what they need, which reminds meI forgot to vaccinate mine.
I took the vaccine home, liketwo weeks ago when they were in
the fridge.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I was thinking about that yesterday.
Mine still need their springwellness done.
Yeah, we've been busy gettingeverybody else's done.
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I haven't had a chance to get ours in.
It's like the electrician buddyof mine.
When else has done?
I don't have a chance to getours in.
It's like the electrician buddyof mine.
When I went to his house, hejust had romex hanging out of a
ceiling wired to a light bulb,because kind of the last thing
you want to do all day after youdo something is go home and do
it on your own.
Um, but that stuff, oh, theyare getting their teeth done
soon.
Jenny, the vet student, uh, iscoming in may or june, I think
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it's.
I they're not.
Their teeth aren't bad.
We did them late last spring,so we're gonna let her practice
on those.
She's been doing a bunch, doinga good job, so, which is good,
because our appointment, ourschedule, is just jam-packed
right now and we're doing thebest we can to try to leave some
holes, to squeeze inemergencies and stuff.
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But man it's.
It's tricky this time of year,especially with the repro work
too.
We're not taking on too manyoutside repro mares just because
of the nightmare of schedulingand everything like that.
We're trying to take care ofthe, the people that support us.
All year.
We're doing some, but it itmakes scheduling very hard.
So I mean, as far as a farmcall to get out on the road,
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we're booked out several weeks,I mean.
And just for any appointmentthat's going to take a while,
we're booked for a while too.
People call and want to squeezein two or three lamenesses and
those, those are hard to bookfor anyways, because you never
know if it's going to take fiveminutes or five hours, whether
you're going to end up doing alot of blocking.
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I think last thursday we had acouple hours blocked for one and
we were done within three stepsbecause he had a very, very
specific gait of a specificdisease.
He had ossifying fibroticmyopathy, which is where they
injure the semimembranosus ortendinosis.
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It's kind of the muscles on theback there on the back of the
hind leg, kind of the butt cheekarea.
They injure that and then themuscle fibrosis and gets super
hard.
I mean you could feel it and itwas as hard as this table here
On the other side.
It was nice and spongy, like amuscle was, and when those walk
they want to take a full stepforward but then that hard
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muscle kind of acts like astring and it just catches that
leg and then it scoots back.
So that diagnosis is usuallyjust watching them walk and
that's what it is.
As far as treatment, there's nottoo much that works.
They can go in surgically cutthat, but then it can scar back.
There's a lot of the therapiesthat do help the symptoms of it.
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You got to just keep doing themand a lot of people fall off
and it gets expensive.
This was a trail horse, so itusually doesn't hurt the horse
at all.
But I told him, I wroteeverything down for him.
I said if anybody sees you onthe trail, says your horse is
limping, just tell them this.
It has this and you'll soundsmarter than them.
So but yeah, and then we getsome lameness exams like oh,
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that's probably a foot abscessand we won't block much time.
And then five blocks later, anultrasound, 10 x-rays.
We're still going four or fivehours later.
But Jenny is coming back.
She graduates in May of 2026.
So roughly a year we'll have anassociate here.
So getting people squeezed infor things is going to be way,
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way, way, way easier to have twoof us in emergencies and we can
leave more gaps in the scheduleto accommodate those things too
, because there's been some dayswe'll be running two or three
appointments at a time and havetwo or three emergencies.
You know, sedate the choke,come in, do an earth block, go
out, fix the choke, then trotthe horse and then check on the
colic in the back.
We're running fluids too.
We do our best, but it's, it'stricky this time of year.
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What else?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
everybody's getting ready to leave, to go out on the
road showing and rodeoing andeverything just stacks up in the
spring yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So if you're listening to this and you need
some routine stuff done, I'dcall your vet today and today
and get it scheduled and knowthat most of us are booked out
quite a ways.
If you call today, we may ormay not be able to get you in
this week.
Yeah, that's heaven.
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But I think more people areaware of the situation.
Especially with places likethis that just have one vet.
It's just hard to get toeverybody and get everything
done and see your kids.
I like to take my kid to schoolin the morning.
It's about only a 12-minutedrive but that's kind of our
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one-on-one time, because when Iget home in the evening's it's
dinner, bath and bedtime.
So it's.
I like to start early.
If it wasn't for that, I'dstart at 6 am all summer, but I
always think I will start earlyand get done early.
But that never happens and youend up working 6 12s.
But that's what pays the billsand we got a lot of bills.
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This stuff's expensive.
We're not in it for the money.
Definitely not drive by your,drive by your vet clinics.
Um, see how many like fancytrucks and sports cars are in
the parking lot.
Let's say it's.
Let's say it's pretty minimal.
I'm driving, I don't even knowwhat my suburban is 2010,.
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200,000 miles, that's all I canafford right now, and the
transmission's going out againunder warranty, so that'll be
good, but it'll just besomething else down the road,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Hopefully it's not gone for a month waiting on
another new transmission to comein or something stupid like
that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That guy's pretty good.
When he replaced it, he waslike drop it off this day, we'll
do it this day, you can pick itup this day.
And he was on it, yeah.
So it's kind of like a doctor'sappointment.
I'll go.
I'll probably try to getsomebody take it today, get the
diagnosis and then schedule thesurgery to be a drop off same
day elective.
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What do they call thoseoutpatient, outpatient surgery,
outpatient surgeries?
We need to get my cousin inhere and interview him yeah,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
As a medical doctor, we need to uh almost take some
listener questions and stufflike that good idea medical
versus veterinary what some ofthe people think and the
differences are.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know what else we need to go over?
They're trying to get mid-levelveterinary practitioners, which
is basically like the PAs ofthe human world.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I saw that Is that like the four-year veterinary
degree that U of I is offering.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, I think that's going gonna be their way into it
, yeah it's a master's inveterinary medicine or, yeah,
master's in veterinary medicinewhich I don't.
I think I gotta read this, likethe whole proposition and the
law, but my understanding of itis it's basically like a
two-year program and then youcan have people providing
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mid-level.
And I think where this comesfrom is in the small animal
world, and even in the horseworld, a little corporate is
buying everything.
A lot of the small animalclinics are selling out to
corporate and I think it's theirlobbyist that are trying to get
this passed.
And it's the same thing in thehuman medicine world, because
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the the corporate medicine lovesPAs or these mid-level
practitioners, because they cancharge the same for their care
but they don't have to pay themas much.
So some people have pushedforward as this is going to fill
the void in vet care, but Ithink all it's going to do is
they're just going to load arevolver and shoot themselves
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right in the foot, because thesemid-level people aren't going
to have the experience to do themore complicated stuff.
They're going to go out and dothe easy stuff, like vaccines,
but I don't even know if theycan do Coggins because I don't
think they can be USDAaccredited.
So I don't even know if they'llbe able to write Coggins and
health certificates.
So if you're doing the bareminimum with the cheapest the
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health certificate that weekend,you're not going to have a vet
that's going to write it orsqueeze you in to do it.
Or if you get an emergencybecause I mean I don't see how,
I just don't see.
I'm going to do a littleresearch on this.
We'll probably do a wholepodcast on it, but from what I
know right now it sounds like aterrible idea.
They need to change theirefforts to getting the right
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people in vet school that aregoing to come out and work in
rural areas and be the hardworkers and be there for these
people with horses.
So I don't know, we'll diveinto that, but it sure does
scare me.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't know.
We'll dive into that, but it itsure does scare me.
I don't know how it would playout, but that almost sounds like
it's one of those telemedicinenurse practitioner things where
you can get online with somebodywho isn't a doctor and get your
script filled and get on out ofthere yeah, I don't know if
they'll be actually, but whatcould they even do in the equine
world, though?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
and they're they're gonna charge less because
they're not doctors and they'renot going to have the eight
years of college and vet schoolto pay for.
I don't know, we'll see how itshakes out, but I don't, I don't
know.
I think they just need tochange some of the vet tech laws
where vet techs that aretrained properly can go do the
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routine stuff and have tech onlyyeah appointments, but directly
under the care of theveterinarian, veterinarian and
the veterinarian can decidewhere they send these.
You know what I mean.
So I don't know.
We'll dive into that.
I forgot what I don't know.
There's a whole proposition,whatever, and I think it started
out in colorado maybe.
And I get it from the ruralstandpoint because I mean I've
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heard horror stories of a horsedown in the middle of nowhere
and the closest vet's four hoursaway and nobody can come.
But if you're in those areasand this sounds bad, but you do
need to be prepared to humanelyend the life of your horse if it
comes to that.
So whether that's a gun andknowing how to do it, I mean
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those situations happen.
We don't like to think about it, but in fact, at Easter
yesterday, one of my wife'scousins are you thirsty, lenny?
One of my wife's cousins,they're his in-laws moved and
they're buying the the farm, butone of the grandpas lives there
.
Jessica's cousin was telling mehe's like, you know, we don't
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see much of him and it's thereality is going to be like we
haven't seen him in a few days.
It's like, well, that's one wayto think about it.
So I don't know, nobody getsout of here alive, I guess.
Yeah, that's, true, and horseshorses will definitely try to
kill you and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, they're good at that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
They're good at that.
We haven't had any well, I'mnot even going to say it Don't.
Oh, I did have a cheeklaceration this weekend, but
they got it taken care ofthemselves.
But I just did three hours ofcontinuing education on trauma
in the oral cavity.
It was a friend of mine thattexted me and I was like yes.
I was like sorry, I'm excited,but I just learned some really
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good stuff, um, from a greatpanel of boarded equine dentist
veterinarians, that a lot oftips and tricks for fixing those
lacerations in the mouth.
And I think this one actuallygot a.
It went all the way through hischeek, oh dang.
I don't know if it was a clipor something, but maybe it's
just a phase, a little emo phase.
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Of course I tell them just putan earring in it, put a disc in
it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, gauge out his lip.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so I guess that's about it.
We've got to get ready for abusy week.
Not too much educational-wisetoday, but we're working on some
really good ones.
I'm putting together Very longone on Laminitis or Founder,
especially after coming offtreating my own for it and as
the grass comes on, and a reallydetailed reproduction one,
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basically on the mare.
I'm not going to talk much aboutstallion or stallion management
, but if you're going to breedyour horse, all everything for
breeding, from pasture breedingto hay breeding, to ai
especially, and what you can doto get ready, what you need to
know about everything, so yourvet doesn't have to explain
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everything every appointment, sothat one will be really good.
And I'm hoping we can distillthat down into smaller clips and
we can put some graphics up andeverything like that and have
it kind of a have it one.
I'm going to recommend nextyear that everybody watches
before they even call anybodyabout breeding a horse, because
it may talk you into it or outof it, depending on the age of
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your horse and complications wesee related to that and
complications we see related tothat.
And, yeah, a lot of this stuffnow that I've got horses is
firsthand.
It's put all that money to flyin semen.
And now our mare is open.
But it happens and it's stillearly, so we'll have that thing
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for sale next year, maybe notthe mare she's actually doing
really good.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So she's gonna make a good baby, she's a good looking
, mare, and the stud you guysare going with, it's gonna make
a nice running bread, littlething yeah, we're gonna make
waves in the barrel industry iswhat I kept telling people.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I tell them it's the best barrel horse I've ever had.
I don't think she's ever seen abarrel yet, but it's the only
barrel horse I've ever had, justlike my beagle's, the best bird
dog I've ever had, or rabbitdog.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
He'll run a rabbit.
He is a good rabbit dog.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
He'll run a rabbit and a deer and a Dodge truck
with loud exhaust that drives byevery morning and the mailman
FedEx.
All right, well, we better getready.
We got some ultrasounds.
I don't know what all we gottoday.
I know we got to take a toothout this afternoon, so that's
like pulling teeth.
All right, well, thanks fortuning in and I hope everybody's
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having a good spring.
Hope your lawnmowers areworking good and until next time
, take care of your horses andyourself.
Hello, welcome to the Beasley Equine Podcast.
I'm your host and equineveterinarian, dr Travis Beasley,
episode 12,.
Just coming off Easter weekendI actually went on Easter egg
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hunt myself.
I got two kids, six and threeand everybody decided to bring a
ton of eggs.
I bet there was four or fivekids hunting eggs and there was
probably 150 eggs out there.
So the dad tax took most of theSkittles and Twizzlers and
other things I like.
So I'm coming off a bit of asugar rush.
Yesterday I try not to eat toomuch sugar because it's super
(00:46):
inflammatory, but we did.
My wife's cousin turned 21, sowe had an adult easter egg hunt.
We got the big easter eggs.
I bought some little littleairplane bottles of booze,
lottery tickets, dollar billsand we let the young kids hide
them.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Really, really good and they thought that was a
blast, so did that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Drove for a few hours on 57 saturday and sunday.
Anybody that's been on 57 knowsit sucks.
Traffic was insane yesterday.
All the semis saw some horsetrailers too, and people just
don't have any respect for thosethings.
So so cut them off, get rightin front of them on the
interstate.
But what are you going to do?
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I'd listen to a bunch ofpodcasts on the way.
I think I'm going to dive backin to the whole.
Health and longevity thing Ikind of fell off the wagon this
winter, ate like a slob, dranklike a slob.
I think I'm going to get backin there.
I really want to get a saunaand, like the red light therapy,
I'm thinking about even doingcold plunges, which I'm on the
(01:54):
fence about.
They got a lot of benefits, butI'm pretty nervous about those.
So I don't know, john, you everdone a cold plunge?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
no, that's one thing I'm super hesitant of.
It just doesn't look like fun Iknow it's good for you, but
it'd take me.
I'd have to do it quite a fewtimes before I was okay with it
yeah, I have to be something Iwas forced to do, like every day
for a week, like you have to doit or else I just wouldn't do
it because that sounds miserable.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't like to get in my shower before it's hot no,
I don't either, but I guess thedopamine rush you get from that
lasts like four or five hours,so I might try it there's stuff
too, like with the skincare allinvolved with it, and I mean
there's a bunch of positives toit, but I, I just don't like
being cold.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, if I do it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We'll probably have to video it and you guys can see
how big of a wuss I am withcold water.
Oh, what else is going on?
Oh, the new transmission in theSuburban started slipping in
first gear, mainly going uphill,so I got to find time in the
schedule to take that back.
It did okay on the way homeyesterday but I got to try to
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get that done.
I got an insurance audit to dofor workman's comp.
That I don't understand any ofthe lingo.
I don't know much aboutbusiness.
I just want to work on horses.
But the joys of owning a smallbusiness.
But our website will be up soon.
I got a page sent to me theother day to look at the setup
of everything and I really likeit.
(03:23):
So it's going to be.
We had BeasleyEquineCliniccom.
It's been defunct for almost 18months now.
We don't we haven't reallyneeded it, I guess.
But the new one's going to beBeasleyEquinecom and it's going
to be a central location for thepodcast and YouTube videos and
how-to videos and probably dolike a blog type thing on there.
(03:46):
And so some of our emails willchange.
We'll all have emails, you know, like Travis at
BeasleyEquineCliniccom.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
BeasleyEquinecom.
Beasleyequinecom.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, I made the website the original one when I
was working in Texas onsomething and it's yeah, the new
one's going to be a lot betterthan what we had.
Um, we'll have a bunch of merchon there too, which is going to
be pretty neat, yeah theprintify store, which is it's
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our custom stuff that we design,but we don't have to keep the
stock right we just it's kind ofmade to order yeah, and it's uh
.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's cool too, because on our site you can go
on printify and you can click onthere who you want to make your
items, and so we have selectedon ours that all of our items
are produced in the unitedstates as well oh good and so
you're not going to ordersomething and have to wait six
weeks on something that's comingfrom some print shop in China
where it's going to be halfcrooked.
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They're all small print shopsand family owned companies and
things like that that sign upfor Printify, and so when your
order goes into them, it goes toall these different little
companies all over the US.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's pretty neat, so there's.
No, you don't have to order 10of them, you can just order one
T-shirt.
Oh good, cool it's pretty neat.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So there's.
No, you don't have to order 10of them, you can just order one
t-shirt.
Oh good, and you've designed alot of neat stuff with, like,
the shawnee national forest andgarden of the gods and stuff
like that kind of highlightingsouthern illinois and or what is
eddieville, the trail ridingcapital of the world probably.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I mean there's more trails here than anywhere I've
been across the country.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, so I had Facebook blocked on my phone for
a while.
I've got an app I forgot whatit's called but I had to do
push-ups to unlock it and Icould set it to like do 10
push-ups to unlock it for aminute.
But the last round of stormsthat came through I took it off
of that app so I could watch thelive meteorologist to know
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whether or not a tornado wasgoing to wipe out our house.
But I've failed to put it backin lock mode.
So I've spent more time onfacebook the past couple weeks
than then I should.
But I started watching some ofthese videos from horse stuff
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and there is just so muchquackery on there.
If you see a video on facebookand it seems too good to be true
, it is there's nothing that'sgonna fix colic with just a tube
or prevent it.
Don't buy into that stuff.
Or if you see something thatsounds interesting, write down
what they said and ask your vetabout it, because a lot of the
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people on facebook are justreally good at marketing and
there's not much science there.
Even some of the people onFacebook are just really good at
marketing and there's not muchscience there, even some of the
very popular products.
They'll show before and afterx-rays.
The before x-ray looks like agreat diagnostic film.
The after x-ray the one I sawit had a blue tinge to it and it
was taken at an oblique angle,so the lesion was even covered
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up by artifact.
But people bought it andthey're like, oh my, it looks so
much better.
I'm gonna buy this for my wholeherd and not that most.
Most of these supplementsaren't going to hurt anything
except your checkbook.
But really, before you dive inand start buying stuff online,
call your vet, talk to them.
We'll talk you off the ledge ona lot of this, and then we can
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usually recommend somethingthat's got some science behind
it that works.
And man the Facebook post withAI.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They're getting crazy .
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Everything I saw the little star emojis on each side
of the first sentence.
Nobody does that.
That's chat, gpt.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
don't ask us how we know that not saying we don't
use ai, but it's a good uh it'sa good starting point.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's not a good finishing point, right, you just
put it in and blast it outthere, copy and paste what other
.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They like the star emojis.
They always say journey yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm 100x times sure that a lot of companies are
using it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, I like what you did there.
Oh, John, over at, when's thedrawing for the free hay?
May 1st.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
May 1st at noon.
John over at Just Say Hay isgoing to do that yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
They're launching a new fertilizer program called
Field Forward, and in honor ofthat, he said I think I'm just
going to give away free hay fora year for a horse.
So it's 10 of those big alfalfabales.
That's what I fed to my horsesthis winter.
They all look good.
And then there's some secondprizes too, I think second place
five of those bales.
Third place is a oral anddental exam here at beasley
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equine clinic.
Go to justsayheycomj-u-s-t-s-a-y-h-a-ycom and you
can enter on there.
It's super easy then.
If, after you enter, I thinkyou can scroll down, and if you
like his facebook, subscribe tohis youtube, follow his podcast,
you can get some bonus entriestoo.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
There was quite a few entries last time, but pretty
good odds For a lifetime supplyof hay.
I think there's 174 people init right now.
A year, not a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh, that'd be nice.
John's very generous, but Idon't know about that.
Speaking of hay, I'm feeding mymini hay again.
I tried turning him out ongrass and the inevitable
happened.
Despite my best efforts, hefoundered again this spring, so
he's locked up.
I made a little stall on theYouTube with my electric fence
tape and I think I shockedmyself seven times this weekend
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doing that.
But it works.
So I've been an owner, doingeverything I tell these owners
to do.
I got them on Butte.
I got them on metformin.
Metformin is a medication A lotof diabetics take it, like the
diabetics that are managed, thehuman diabetics that are managed
by a pill.
That's usually what they take.
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So I've got them on that theButte.
For an anti-inflammatory, I'vegot a stall bedded super-duper
deep.
I was soaking the hay to drawthe sugars out.
I got them on a product calledInsulinWise, which is a natural
supplement, a lot of naturalanti-inflammatories in it, and
there is some good sciencebehind it that shows it does
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lower blood insulin in some ofthese guys and he was.
He was really sore, startedimproving and then kind of
plateaued.
And friday we had some extratime because of a cancellation,
so we went out there me, johnand autumn and did a video.
We did a regional limbperfusion with regeniflex rt,
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which is an Amnion product madefrom Hilltop Bio, and we did
that roughly 10 o'clock in themorning after work, after I got
everything to make the electricfence stall and stuff for this
weekend.
With the weather coming in,that's the most.
I saw him walk around thatafternoon.
He was walking pretty good.
I was gone Saturday morningmorning till sunday night and
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last night I checked him.
His digital pulses are way downand he's turning on the left
one which was the bad one.
I could pick up both feet andhe stood there.
He didn't, didn't rock back.
But because of the extra timefriday, we also videoed
everything.
So they'll be a pretty coolvideo coming out showing another
regional limb, kind of talkingabout the product, and you get
to see my little mini namedSpazzy and it's pretty cool.
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I think my dog Doug and Romanmade their debut but he's been
on Butte for 10 or 12 days.
But I also put him on somestuff to protect his stomach
Because we all know, if you'velistened to the Eat Gus lecture,
some stuff to protect hisstomach because we all know if
you've listened to the e-gusslecture.
Inseds and stress are a verygood combination for your horse
to get stomach ulcers.
So I've got them on the purinaoutlast, which is it's just a
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little pellet you top dress hisfeed with.
It's basically just calcium,but they source it from a marine
source, which is some type ofseaweed, and this calcium is
super like honeycombed and itactually buffers the acid in the
stomach way longer than justalfalfa.
And I've also got them onProtec GI, which is a protectant
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for mainly the bottom half ofthe stomach where we see a lot
of ulcers from the butan stress.
It forms an alkaline sludgedown there.
I've been super happy with thatproduct.
Some of these ulcers that we'retreating, if we, if we hit a
stall, we've added that in thereand it seems like that's the,
that's the icing on the cake toget that extra, extra boost up
there.
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Hannah that works in the office.
She had one that was veryrefractory to our all of our
treatment and once we startedthat protech gi it made all the
difference in the world.
So anybody out there that I'veprescribed all this stuff for
these foundered horses, I feelyour pain and we have to do it.
And the other thing to that isit happens.
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Don't beat yourself up.
I took every precaution I could.
He stayed at a good body weightall winter.
I limited his time grazing.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But here we are, it happened and then for everybody
listening to um or watching onyoutube.
We'll put everything that youtreated spazzy with in the notes
um down below and that waypeople can kind of get an idea
of everything that you did.
So if they do have one founder,they can see all the steps to
take and I'll put a link to allthe products and everything that
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you used.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and it won't be an exhaustive list.
There's tons of other stuff outthere.
Um, if he wasn't any bettertoday, I was going to add
something like isoxaprin orpentoxyfiling.
Those are drugs that kind of.
They call them them rheologicagents.
You'll hear them say theyincrease blood flow.
They may or may not, but that'skind of a real simple way of
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thinking about it.
They'll kind of increase thatblood flow to and from these
places that we're worried aboutand with laminitis that's a huge
thing.
It's getting the blood flow tothat foot and get the
inflammation out.
Because as that coffin bonechanges and he's already rotated
we'd x-rayed him when he got it.
He's a repeat offender for forfounder.
When that bone moods in there,it can really compress some of
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the, some of the vasculature tothat foot and then decrease the
circulation down there.
So a lot of what we do is tryto increase circulation, get the
, get the inflammation out, sobut I'm happy to report he's
doing good.
So the kids will probably be onhim next, next weekend, and
then he'll slowly get back withthe grazing muzzle and we have
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insulin.
We can test in-house, so I'llkind of track his insulin, wean
him off the meds, probably keepthem on the insulin wise and
stuff like that.
He's doing well.
My thoroughbred marrow we bredis open Got that news a couple
weeks ago, so I guess we'regoing to try again, which all of
you in the breeding world knows.
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It just takes money One moreshipment every time.
They ship it, but it is what itis.
So myself, a veterinarian, andmy friend who is a farrier, own
this horse and so far we'repaying a vet to breed her and
we've paid another farrier toshoe her.
So I kind of thought we'd keepour margin pretty low, taking
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care of stuff ourselves.
But it just doesn't work out.
Usually the farriers and vets'horses are the last ones to get
what they need, which reminds meI forgot to vaccinate mine.
I took the vaccine home, liketwo weeks ago when they were in
the fridge.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I was thinking about that yesterday.
Mine still need their springwellness done.
Yeah, we've been busy gettingeverybody else's done.
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I haven't had a chance to get ours in.
It's like the electrician buddyof mine.
When else has done?
I don't have a chance to getours in.
It's like the electrician buddyof mine.
When I went to his house, hejust had romex hanging out of a
ceiling wired to a light bulb,because kind of the last thing
you want to do all day after youdo something is go home and do
it on your own.
Um, but that stuff, oh, theyare getting their teeth done
soon.
Jenny, the vet student, uh, iscoming in may or june, I think
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it's.
I they're not.
Their teeth aren't bad.
We did them late last spring,so we're gonna let her practice
on those.
She's been doing a bunch, doinga good job, so, which is good,
because our appointment, ourschedule, is just jam-packed
right now and we're doing thebest we can to try to leave some
holes, to squeeze inemergencies and stuff.
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But man it's.
It's tricky this time of year,especially with the repro work
too.
We're not taking on too manyoutside repro mares just because
of the nightmare of schedulingand everything like that.
We're trying to take care ofthe, the people that support us.
All year.
We're doing some, but it itmakes scheduling very hard.
So I mean, as far as a farmcall to get out on the road,
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we're booked out several weeks,I mean.
And just for any appointmentthat's going to take a while,
we're booked for a while too.
People call and want to squeezein two or three lamenesses and
those, those are hard to bookfor anyways, because you never
know if it's going to take fiveminutes or five hours, whether
you're going to end up doing alot of blocking.
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I think last thursday we had acouple hours blocked for one and
we were done within three stepsbecause he had a very, very
specific gait of a specificdisease.
He had ossifying fibroticmyopathy, which is where they
injure the semimembranosus ortendinosis.
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It's kind of the muscles on theback there on the back of the
hind leg, kind of the butt cheekarea.
They injure that and then themuscle fibrosis and gets super
hard.
I mean you could feel it and itwas as hard as this table here
On the other side.
It was nice and spongy, like amuscle was, and when those walk
they want to take a full stepforward but then that hard
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muscle kind of acts like astring and it just catches that
leg and then it scoots back.
So that diagnosis is usuallyjust watching them walk and
that's what it is.
As far as treatment, there's nottoo much that works.
They can go in surgically cutthat, but then it can scar back.
There's a lot of the therapiesthat do help the symptoms of it.
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You got to just keep doing themand a lot of people fall off
and it gets expensive.
This was a trail horse, so itusually doesn't hurt the horse
at all.
But I told him, I wroteeverything down for him.
I said if anybody sees you onthe trail, says your horse is
limping, just tell them this.
It has this and you'll soundsmarter than them.
So but yeah, and then we getsome lameness exams like oh,
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that's probably a foot abscessand we won't block much time.
And then five blocks later, anultrasound, 10 x-rays.
We're still going four or fivehours later.
But Jenny is coming back.
She graduates in May of 2026.
So roughly a year we'll have anassociate here.
So getting people squeezed infor things is going to be way,
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way, way, way easier to have twoof us in emergencies and we can
leave more gaps in the scheduleto accommodate those things too
, because there's been some dayswe'll be running two or three
appointments at a time and havetwo or three emergencies.
You know, sedate the choke,come in, do an earth block, go
out, fix the choke, then trotthe horse and then check on the
colic in the back.
We're running fluids too.
We do our best, but it's, it'stricky this time of year.
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What else?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
everybody's getting ready to leave, to go out on the
road showing and rodeoing andeverything just stacks up in the
spring yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So if you're listening to this and you need
some routine stuff done, I'dcall your vet today and today
and get it scheduled and knowthat most of us are booked out
quite a ways.
If you call today, we may ormay not be able to get you in
this week.
Yeah, that's heaven.
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But I think more people areaware of the situation.
Especially with places likethis that just have one vet.
It's just hard to get toeverybody and get everything
done and see your kids.
I like to take my kid to schoolin the morning.
It's about only a 12-minutedrive but that's kind of our
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one-on-one time, because when Iget home in the evening's it's
dinner, bath and bedtime.
So it's.
I like to start early.
If it wasn't for that, I'dstart at 6 am all summer, but I
always think I will start earlyand get done early.
But that never happens and youend up working 6 12s.
But that's what pays the billsand we got a lot of bills.
(20:31):
This stuff's expensive.
We're not in it for the money.
Definitely not drive by your,drive by your vet clinics.
Um, see how many like fancytrucks and sports cars are in
the parking lot.
Let's say it's.
Let's say it's pretty minimal.
I'm driving, I don't even knowwhat my suburban is 2010,.
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200,000 miles, that's all I canafford right now, and the
transmission's going out againunder warranty, so that'll be
good, but it'll just besomething else down the road,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Hopefully it's not gone for a month waiting on
another new transmission to comein or something stupid like
that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That guy's pretty good.
When he replaced it, he waslike drop it off this day, we'll
do it this day, you can pick itup this day.
And he was on it, yeah.
So it's kind of like a doctor'sappointment.
I'll go.
I'll probably try to getsomebody take it today, get the
diagnosis and then schedule thesurgery to be a drop off same
day elective.
(21:30):
What do they call thoseoutpatient, outpatient surgery,
outpatient surgeries?
We need to get my cousin inhere and interview him yeah,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
As a medical doctor, we need to uh almost take some
listener questions and stufflike that good idea medical
versus veterinary what some ofthe people think and the
differences are.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know what else we need to go over?
They're trying to get mid-levelveterinary practitioners, which
is basically like the PAs ofthe human world.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I saw that Is that like the four-year veterinary
degree that U of I is offering.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, I think that's going gonna be their way into it
, yeah it's a master's inveterinary medicine or, yeah,
master's in veterinary medicinewhich I don't.
I think I gotta read this, likethe whole proposition and the
law, but my understanding of itis it's basically like a
two-year program and then youcan have people providing
(22:30):
mid-level.
And I think where this comesfrom is in the small animal
world, and even in the horseworld, a little corporate is
buying everything.
A lot of the small animalclinics are selling out to
corporate and I think it's theirlobbyist that are trying to get
this passed.
And it's the same thing in thehuman medicine world, because
(22:50):
the the corporate medicine lovesPAs or these mid-level
practitioners, because they cancharge the same for their care
but they don't have to pay themas much.
So some people have pushedforward as this is going to fill
the void in vet care, but Ithink all it's going to do is
they're just going to load arevolver and shoot themselves
(23:12):
right in the foot, because thesemid-level people aren't going
to have the experience to do themore complicated stuff.
They're going to go out and dothe easy stuff, like vaccines,
but I don't even know if theycan do Coggins because I don't
think they can be USDAaccredited.
So I don't even know if they'llbe able to write Coggins and
health certificates.
So if you're doing the bareminimum with the cheapest the
(23:36):
health certificate that weekend,you're not going to have a vet
that's going to write it orsqueeze you in to do it.
Or if you get an emergencybecause I mean I don't see how,
I just don't see.
I'm going to do a littleresearch on this.
We'll probably do a wholepodcast on it, but from what I
know right now it sounds like aterrible idea.
They need to change theirefforts to getting the right
(23:57):
people in vet school that aregoing to come out and work in
rural areas and be the hardworkers and be there for these
people with horses.
So I don't know, we'll diveinto that, but it sure does
scare me.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't know.
We'll dive into that, but it itsure does scare me.
I don't know how it would playout, but that almost sounds like
it's one of those telemedicinenurse practitioner things where
you can get online with somebodywho isn't a doctor and get your
script filled and get on out ofthere yeah, I don't know if
they'll be actually, but whatcould they even do in the equine
world, though?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
and they're they're gonna charge less because
they're not doctors and they'renot going to have the eight
years of college and vet schoolto pay for.
I don't know, we'll see how itshakes out, but I don't, I don't
know.
I think they just need tochange some of the vet tech laws
where vet techs that aretrained properly can go do the
(24:49):
routine stuff and have tech onlyyeah appointments, but directly
under the care of theveterinarian, veterinarian and
the veterinarian can decidewhere they send these.
You know what I mean.
So I don't know.
We'll dive into that.
I forgot what I don't know.
There's a whole proposition,whatever, and I think it started
out in colorado maybe.
And I get it from the ruralstandpoint because I mean I've
(25:11):
heard horror stories of a horsedown in the middle of nowhere
and the closest vet's four hoursaway and nobody can come.
But if you're in those areasand this sounds bad, but you do
need to be prepared to humanelyend the life of your horse if it
comes to that.
So whether that's a gun andknowing how to do it, I mean
(25:36):
those situations happen.
We don't like to think about it, but in fact, at Easter
yesterday, one of my wife'scousins are you thirsty, lenny?
One of my wife's cousins,they're his in-laws moved and
they're buying the the farm, butone of the grandpas lives there
.
Jessica's cousin was telling mehe's like, you know, we don't
(25:58):
see much of him and it's thereality is going to be like we
haven't seen him in a few days.
It's like, well, that's one wayto think about it.
So I don't know, nobody getsout of here alive, I guess.
Yeah, that's, true, and horseshorses will definitely try to
kill you and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, they're good at that.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
They're good at that.
We haven't had any well, I'mnot even going to say it Don't.
Oh, I did have a cheeklaceration this weekend, but
they got it taken care ofthemselves.
But I just did three hours ofcontinuing education on trauma
in the oral cavity.
It was a friend of mine thattexted me and I was like yes.
I was like sorry, I'm excited,but I just learned some really
(26:41):
good stuff, um, from a greatpanel of boarded equine dentist
veterinarians, that a lot oftips and tricks for fixing those
lacerations in the mouth.
And I think this one actuallygot a.
It went all the way through hischeek, oh dang.
I don't know if it was a clipor something, but maybe it's
just a phase, a little emo phase.
(27:02):
Of course I tell them just putan earring in it, put a disc in
it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, gauge out his lip.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so I guess that's about it.
We've got to get ready for abusy week.
Not too much educational-wisetoday, but we're working on some
really good ones.
I'm putting together Very longone on Laminitis or Founder,
especially after coming offtreating my own for it and as
the grass comes on, and a reallydetailed reproduction one,
(27:33):
basically on the mare.
I'm not going to talk much aboutstallion or stallion management
, but if you're going to breedyour horse, all everything for
breeding, from pasture breedingto hay breeding, to ai
especially, and what you can doto get ready, what you need to
know about everything, so yourvet doesn't have to explain
(27:55):
everything every appointment, sothat one will be really good.
And I'm hoping we can distillthat down into smaller clips and
we can put some graphics up andeverything like that and have
it kind of a have it one.
I'm going to recommend nextyear that everybody watches
before they even call anybodyabout breeding a horse, because
it may talk you into it or outof it, depending on the age of
(28:17):
your horse and complications wesee related to that and
complications we see related tothat.
And, yeah, a lot of this stuffnow that I've got horses is
firsthand.
It's put all that money to flyin semen.
And now our mare is open.
But it happens and it's stillearly, so we'll have that thing
(28:38):
for sale next year, maybe notthe mare she's actually doing
really good.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So she's gonna make a good baby, she's a good looking
, mare, and the stud you guysare going with, it's gonna make
a nice running bread, littlething yeah, we're gonna make
waves in the barrel industry iswhat I kept telling people.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I tell them it's the best barrel horse I've ever had.
I don't think she's ever seen abarrel yet, but it's the only
barrel horse I've ever had, justlike my beagle's, the best bird
dog I've ever had, or rabbitdog.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
He'll run a rabbit.
He is a good rabbit dog.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
He'll run a rabbit and a deer and a Dodge truck
with loud exhaust that drives byevery morning and the mailman
FedEx.
All right, well, we better getready.
We got some ultrasounds.
I don't know what all we gottoday.
I know we got to take a toothout this afternoon, so that's
like pulling teeth.
All right, well, thanks fortuning in and I hope everybody's
(29:35):
having a good spring.
Hope your lawnmowers areworking good and until next time
, take care of your horses andyourself.
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