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And I see a lot of people now switching to soft wax only.
I am seeing. That and I'm like what are your
thoughts? Or just everyone has their own
way of doing things. That's really cool, 'cause I
did, I, I was strolling through through your YouTube and I do
see like all the bad education that you try to push out.
Yeah. I have learned so much, man.
I'm gonna be a waxer, maybe. Born an entrepreneur.
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So I like, I mean, four or five years old, I would literally
pick flowers and like try to sell them to people.
Like and they would buy just because I was cute.
At that point I was like, oh, I got this entrepreneurship thing
down. But no, I've always like when
people would ask, what do you want to be when you grow up?
My answer was my own boss. What I wanted to do, I wasn't
sure, but I just knew I didn't want to work for anybody.
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So for someone who's established, what are some when
they're trying to scale or to togrow their team or what are
what's your advice to them? Welcome everybody to Beauty
Bound. I am your host Jackie Rodman
owner of Skinfinite here in San Antonio, TX and we have my Co
host Crystal. Yes, I'm Crystal Rubio.
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You can find me on Beauty Pro Bookkeeping on Instagram and we
are very excited because Jackie is going to introduce someone so
special that I've been looking forward to for the last.
Couple months, yes. So context, we just got back
from GLOW and Gather. We finally had the show that
we've been chatting about over the past couple weeks and we
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have our wonderful speaker, Breehere.
She was voted ASCPST of the year.
You need to do the. I know.
Wait, hold on. You have.
Sound. Effects, yes.
But I always end up fucking it up so, so bear with me.
See, that's what I'm saying. That is so.
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Cool, he's probably. Like I don't hear anything.
But yes, congratulations on thank you.
Thank you. So still seems.
Surreal. Right.
Ohh, man, I, I've, I've kind of,you know, looked at a little bit
over your, your YouTube and yourwebsite, but please tell us
about about yourself. Who am I?
Who are you? Yes, so I which camera should?
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I whichever 1 you feel more comfortable.
With and then he'll kind of likesplit between.
I want to look at you guys. OK, so Ivory Masquer, I was
named Esty of the year. I, I should, I guess I should
put that kind of in my my introductions now, but so I've
been licensed as Titian for 13 years.
I specialize really in in waxing.
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So not originally why I got intothe industry, but just naturally
progressed that way to make thisnot super long.
So 13 years worked at a day spotfell in love with waxing got
offered a job at European wax center worked there 2017 went
out on my own. I was pregnant with my third
child. We were living in an RV long
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story back story on that, but I was like no, what we need this
just I hit the the. The maximum.
Right. Yeah, that glass ceiling.
European. I'm like, OK, I'm living.
We're a young family. Third baby on the way.
Like living in a trailer in Orange County.
Like there's no I, I got to makesome more money, so I went out
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solo. So what were you doing before?
Like before you started at European wax.
Like what? Like LED you to become an
aesthetician. Yeah, well, what led me to
become an aesthetician? Actually, I was doing, I'm
working at MLM company with my grandma, which now?
Oh my God. Like what?
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Like the skin care we all know. Like, you know, it's not
professional grade. Real skin feel.
No. Hell no.
No. Are you?
All it's because it's the You'reyour own boss and you're gonna
make it. And then if you get people like
all this bullshit. Right.
I was like born an entrepreneur.So I like, I mean, four or five
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years old, I would literally pick flowers and like try to
sell them to people like and they would buy just because I
was cute At that point. I was like, oh, I got this
entrepreneurship thing down. But no, I've always like when
people would ask, what do you want to be when you grow up?
My answer was my own boss. So what I wanted to do, I wasn't
sure, but I just knew I didn't want to work for anybody.
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But so that's what I was doing. I was like, you know what, this
would be really cool if not onlyselling the product, but then
could actually like use it on people not knowing yet that
there's like professional grade skin care and all of that.
But that's what kind of got me into it.
Worked at the day spa and then we actually took a sugaring
course at the day spa. I was like, oh, hair removal.
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This is fun because I really liked doing facials, but you're
like tied down to an hour. It's all calm and soothing,
which I love, but I'm a little bit more, I'm higher energy and
fast pace. Like I'm always like working
towards like a bigger goal. And I just felt like, I don't
know, it's too mellow for me. OK, so like I like the speed
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aspect of waxing and the instantgratification too.
I'm like, OK, hair's there, Hair.
'S gosh. And then that follicle, the hair
follicle for me, that was it. Like when I would want all the
on clients or the lip wax I was like Oh my.
Gosh. They don't even give a fuck,
they're just like, take this away from my face.
Get it off of. Me and I'm over here excited
over the hair follicle but. I still get excited about it
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too. You can't not.
But yeah, then I I went to European Wax Center, went solo
and then I feel like kind of therest is history from there.
The rest is history. You have done so much and one of
the things that I loved hearing about you today during Glow and
Gather was how it was the the mats that you the wax pants that
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you created was all you know, itall started because he bought
he. Was a jet.
Ski that. He's off the hook now.
I was very upset about this jet ski when I first.
So did he go buy this without? Telling you, I can't remember.
Probably. I don't know.
Did you? Yeah, probably.
Look how guilty you are, but. Thanks to that you created
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something amazing that you knew there was a need for something
and you went and created. It yeah and I never had the
intention of selling it. I honestly didn't.
I made it for myself. I was like I need something pink
in the background. I need it to be machine while
all the things that are wax pad is and then yeah then I post it
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on Instagram and at that point Ionly had probably like 3000
followers. So goes to show, OK, yeah, it's
crazy. And I'm like, what?
Who, what, Why? But anyways, it goes to show for
for your audience. So you don't have to have a huge
audience in order to add value and reach people.
So yeah, yeah, lots of Estitiansstarted.
Reaching back home before this. Yes, yeah.
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So Rebel wax that was that's. Our is.
Newer. I'm like it's.
New. OK, so when did you decide?
OK. We had got the wax pads like
we're going to do the wax. Like, yeah, that was the wax
pads originated in. I'm originally from Orange
County, California, ME. Too.
I was, I'm Huntington Beach, born and raised.
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Five years ago we moved to Central Oregon.
So we're in Bend, OR now, brought our wax pads up there.
Long story with the wax pads andCOVID and manufacturing all the
things anyways, we now manufacture them ourselves in
house. That's awesome.
Yeah. So we were in Oregon when I just
I had AI shared a little bit of this at the glow and gather
today, but I had this defining moment.
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And I'm not going to say which brand, but I have been an
ambassador for many brands and it all came organically from
using it on my clients loving it.
And then they would reach out. Hey, you're already promoting
us. Do you want an ambassadorship?
I'm like, heck yeah, I'm alreadypromoting you anyways, yes,
let's do it. One brand in particular.
Then after I went through many brands because then want seeing
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the back end, whether it lack ofcustomer service, maybe they
treat me fantastic. But then I was getting feedback
from people. I was referring to them to like,
they're terrible. I'm like, I am so sorry.
So I couldn't keep referring. Yeah, I was like, I'm not like
customer service is everything to us.
It it really is. That's our one of our core
values for sure. So that would happen that I'd
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switch brands I could have to find a new wax and they'd offer
it. So I went through this cycle,
but there is finally this probably my 4th, 5th brand that
I was with and they owed me a huge chunk of change, like huge
chunk of change for our agreement.
And they they didn't want to pay.
And I was like, what if you got,yeah, I'm doing this myself.
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So there was just not a brand I felt checked all the boxes for
me. Customer service, great quality.
Also taking into consideration the different climates that
people work in, like here where it's humid, right?
Wax is going to perform differently in a humid climate
than it is in dry climate or different experience levels,
beginners, students up to advanced waxers who want to do
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speed waxing. So I just felt like there wasn't
something that checked all the boxes that I was looking for.
I'm like, I guess I will do thismyself.
That's awesome. I.
Love it. So basically it doesn't matter
what climate you live in, this is.
That is our 5050 blend you're holding there.
So what that is, is we are the first to bring to market where
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we pre mix our bags. So we have gel based and cream
based mix 5050. Now we also have gel on its own
and cream on its own. So we technically have three
different hard wax formulas. So there's going to be something
that's going. To work for everybody you.
Are probably the first person I've seen because I'm not a
waxer, but that I didn't know you could like mix waxes
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together and like make your own blends.
I just thought they just came asthey in the bag and you just.
Yeah, I know you totally. Can't.
So like some of our customers, if they don't like the 5050,
maybe they like a 60 B40 ratio. So then you you can really do
whatever and it's kind of taboo for some reason.
There's a lot of people draggingthat through the mud right now
saying that if you have to mix your wax, it's poor quality.
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It's like. No way.
No. And what's because it's the same
thing as products like you when you're doing moisturizer, even
with hair product, like if you're mixing you sometimes you
make your own concoction of something to put in the hair.
Yeah, like. It doesn't.
I agree. And I see a lot of people now
switching to soft wax only and I'm like what are your thoughts?
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Or just everyone has their own way of doing things.
It's all personal preference. At the end of the day, it is all
of us against the razor. We have a common enemy of the
razor. So if you're removing the hair
from the root and your your clients first and foremost happy
you're moving from the root, youhave proper technique, you're
confident in the service you're providing.
I don't care if you sugar you, soft wax, hard wax, it's
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whatever tool you use. That's what works.
For you, that's that's what works.
So I'm not against soft. We actually have soft wax
available as well. I feel like so for me I feel
like soft wax hurts more. I feel the same.
But you know, and I feel like hard wax doesn't hurt as much,
but then it's it, it's for different things too.
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I would rather get my lips sugared than I would wax,
whether that's hard wax or stripwax.
Fuck no. Like that hurts, you know, And
I've told her many times and I get so red with the regular wax
or even hard wax that I'm like, no.
So when she does my wax, it's just it's not as red with the
sugaring. Yeah.
But it's, again, it doesn't hurtas bad.
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Now, would I ever try a Brazilian with sugaring?
I don't think I would. Yeah.
And I've said it many times, 'cause I'm like, I don't know,
like, imagine that fucking smackbag like.
See my issue, because I used to,I've done all three ways.
So I've sugared. I actually started off with
sugaring, then went to hard wax and then I've played around with
soft wax too. But for me personally, sugaring,
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I feel like the application itself can be a little bit
uncomfortable because you're like really rolling and
dragging. But again, at the end of the
day, it's there's no preference for both sides, client and for
the technician. As well.
And I think for even for legs, Iwould rather do sugaring.
And it's, it is, it's a preference.
And I think there's so many people that are always like
fighting against each other. And it's like like.
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That I know we're trying. To be here.
Yeah, yeah, knowledge. I have clients that ask me to
like so is sugaring better? I'm like, no, it's preference.
Like you prefer to come see me for sugaring.
Doesn't mean I think like sugaring is like the greatest
form of hair removal. Yeah, it just means I just.
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Saw Ioffer. Yeah, yeah.
So when it comes to when it cameactually to you creating your
wax. So did you know like that there
were certain people that you wanted to try it, like sending
it out to different estheticiansso that you could get an honest
review on it? Or how, how did you go about all
that? I didn't because I had been in
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the game for so long at that point.
I knew like, I just knew what I was like and it it was really me
kind of solving my own problem because I didn't go.
Now if anyone follows me on Instagram and you're seeing
these huge shipping containers of wax coming in, right?
Our first order was like a little palette and I was like,
worst case, if this doesn't sell, like I'll go through it
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myself or my client. So I first kind of created it
more with what I was looking forin mind.
And then I was doing education stuff too.
So I, I of course had my students in mind as well, but I,
I didn't. But once it did come in, then of
course, I started sharing with girls that I had built
relationships with it and I was like, all right, give me your
feedback. And they really liked it too.
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I'm like, all right, good. Because it took a while to like
really nail down the formula. What we were OK that I knew
exactly what I wanted and was looking for.
But you know, it takes a little bit to.
Get yeah. And then, you know, like when
you come fresh out of beauty school, I know like for for
Cosmos, they teach you how to wax, right.
But they teach you how to do lipwax, eyebrow wax and then maybe
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arm wax and you learn everythingwith a strip wax.
Yeah. Or soft wax so you never even
know that there is any other waxbut the Gigi wax.
Exactly. Exactly.
Yes and so I remember like I think it was with Mercy from the
wax scene when she was showing me like Oh no, like I want this
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one. And I was like, what is the
difference? Like why would you use that?
You know for me, I'm just like there's the she's like this with
that shit and she's like, oh man.
So obviously seeing all these and seeing all their pretty
colours because I'm for some reason it's.
Attracted to pink? That's me.
Yeah. And the pretty colored.
Yeah. I'm like, oh, pretty, you know,
and that's what I get distractedwith.
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Yeah. So do you only have those two
colors? And is that just so you it could
stay on brand? No.
Well, of course I started off with pink because, you know,
yeah, it's me. But no, we have we have
different options now. So in our cream based, we have
coconut cream and pink cream, which that's what you're seeing
there. Mix the with our clear
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unscented, which is a gel based.So in our gel line, we have the
clear unscented, we have pink shimmer, blue gummy.
And then we also did have a mixture of the pink and blue
gummy. Sorry guys, it's limited
edition. I'm calling it now.
Once we're once we're sold out, we're sold out.
I'm about to order some wax. But we have them separately, we
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just won't be pre mixing the bags anymore.
So people can mix it up because that one, they're both gel
based, pink shimmer, blue gummy are both gel based.
So then you just stay with a gelformula.
So I'm like, why are we doing like so these ones though, the
pink cream clear and scented mix, coconut cream clear and
scented mix is our 5050 hybrid. So that's what we call that.
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So gel based, cream based 5050 hybrid.
Now give me some context on thatstrip that you're holding of
pink wax. Oh, on the picture today on the
slide. Show.
Yes, we were doing a branding shoot at our studio, so I just
was like. So it was that's true.
I was like, is there a reason you know?
Cuz sometimes they're like look,it doesn't crack or it doesn't
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break I. Trade shows, I'll do demos and
I'll show the it's the pliability of it.
So we have a lot of elasticity in our wax.
It's super pliable. Which girls are usually looking
for that? It helps reduce the amount of
your strips breaking during a service.
So that's horrible when it. Breaks, yeah.
And then you're trying to like. There's many different reasons.
Sometimes we're too quick to blame the wax and it can be poor
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prep on the client's part, on the service providers part.
Cold skin, dehydrated skin, There's so many different
reasons why it can break. So that's why techniques are so
important and why I put out the free six week course because I
noticed that once I got into this realm and getting all the
customer service emails, I'm running into this issue.
This this, I'm like, OK, OK, this is like a lack of proper
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training. So then I saw another knee
problem and I'm like, all right,how can I solve this?
Then we put out our free six week course because I'm like,
oh, that's awesome. I need to help.
Like the schools aren't teachingthis stuff.
No, my educator was like refusedto teach us how to do Brazilian
waxes. She had to, like, get someone
else to do it. And I was like, but well, hi,
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you know how to do it. And she's like, oh, no, no, no,
I don't want to. Like, I like, she was, like,
weird about it. Yeah, like really weird about
it. It can be maybe a little bit of
lack of confidence or there's a whole, it's a whole different
ball game to know how to do it yourself and then to know how to
teach that to someone and, and yeah, articulate all the little
steps and stuff so it can becomesecond nature.
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So then to try to break that down into, well, first do this
and hold your hand here and all that.
So I I understand there can be. But they're more used to just.
Doing it, yeah. So while you worked at European
Wax Center, I know they teach you speed waxing, right?
So was that from going from a spa where you were doing facials
to all of a sudden going here towhere you're expected to do
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what, like a wax a a Brazilian in 15?
Yeah, yeah, you'll die out when you hear what I had to do.
So I was. Please do.
Tell I was the first red level waxer at my location, so there's
different levels. So with that in 15 minutes I I
probably can't move this fast anymore, but my most common I
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could do a Brazilian, a eyebrow,upper lip and underarm and like
a stomach strip all in 15 minutes.
So I'm like just pumping them out.
So I yeah, I was like a mega speed.
I don't honestly, I got really good at just knowing which order
and what like. So it's like spread, spread.
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Yeah so I would lay 3 on Brazilian then be prepping
underarm after pulling then laying underarm.
Get the brow, do a lip while I'mat the brow like I.
Just multitask, yeah? I'm doing multiple services at a
time. I forget a strip somewhere and
be like sorry ma'am. That's why patterns are so
important and I teach all that in my course, so you.
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Can. Oh man, yes.
So where can they find that course on your website?
Correct. Yeah, lashmaxoc.com/training.
It's completely free. Literally no strings attached.
A lot of schools are actually pulling my course up.
It's so cool to hear this. I didn't know this until like
trade shows and people telling me they'll pull it up in in
class and like work through it as a class.
I'm like, OK, that's super cool,damn.
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Yeah. So that's that would be really
cool. My biggest question is how does
it feel to walk around trade shows now and people know who
you? Are it's very strange I have not
gotten used to that quite yet. I have to watch my RBF because
I'm like, I don't want anyone think I hate them or something.
It's not I never got into this for all of this.
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Like it's a byproduct for sure, but it's it's cool.
It's very, it's, it's humbling and it's, it's an honour, but
it's also just still strange to right.
'Cause when people tell you, Oh my gosh, I've watched all your
videos and I love you and you'rejust like, I don't even know who
you are. No, no, I love connecting with
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people like that. It's, it's very cool.
It's like, OK, I'm putting it, you know, I'm putting myself out
there online so to know that it's being received.
But what I love hearing the mostis that I've inspired someone to
become their best version of them.
What? When I start feeling like it's
when they're like, I want to be you.
I'm like, OK, I love this, thankyou.
But I want you to become the best version of you.
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The world needs you at your best, not another Brie or not,
you know? So it's very, yeah.
It feels like AI take it seriously, like a big
responsibility that I'm a role model to some of like the next
generation of waxers. And yeah, so it's crazy though.
How long did it like before, let's say the first time that
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you realized, oh shit, like I'm a big deal?
Because no. No, but you.
Are. You are you've done so many
amazing things for for the SD community, you know, and for the
especially for waxers, you've done you've done a lot of great
things, so you are a big deal. You freaking just got an award.
You know it's. Very crazy, yeah.
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So to know that like damn, like I obviously because to you, you
feel I'm just, I'm just like you, you know, I'm just like
any. Better than weird.
Yeah, and it's. Stumbled my words.
And and so to to know that all of a sudden you have all these
people looking at you and maybe the first time that you ever
felt that you know that people came up to you and you were just
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like, wait. I actually remember the first
moment. So we went to Vegas was our
first ever trade show. So it was my first time really
getting in front besides doing like my wax classes and stuff
privately, but getting in front of like more people.
And I was talking to my booth toset up and I'm just in like my
frumpy clothes, like what? And this girl jumps in front of
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me. She goes Bree and I'm like,
like, it scared the shit out of me.
I'm like, what? Like I thought I'd drop
something. I I didn't know that it never
crossed my mind that she recognized me from my social
media. And she's like, Oh my God, I
love you. Can I take a picture?
I'm like looking around like with who?
What? OK, yes, so it that would and
then I started realizing, OK, first of all, I got to watch my
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face when I'm walking around. The biggest thing is that I've
had my own experiences with watching people online that I
really looked up to and then meeting them in person and just
being just, they're disappointedin girls, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Star.
Mine's Jeffrey. Oh, really?
Oh, man. Yeah.
Oh, I can't say I've ever met him in.
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Person but what was it at the makeup show in LA Oh man yeah I
was so disappointed that's see and.
That sucks and I never want to make any.
And sometimes I don't know what that situation situation was,
but maybe it was unintentional. Yeah, you know, I don't know,
but I just never want to make anyone feel like that so.
Because I feel big. Deal to me.
Everybody obviously like it and it's so amazing to see that that
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people were so excited to see you and we've been so excited to
have you on the moment, you knowthat Jackie and and Matt told me
about it. Like, yes, we should definitely
have her. And I was like, hell yeah.
And then when I saw Matt come in, 'cause I, he knows.
And I'm like. Yeah, me and Matt were
contracting the plan and we werelike.
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You got me. I was.
Like, Oh yeah, that is a good idea.
Yeah, and. So then Matt commented on your
stuff and then he's like, you better get in there.
And I was like, like anxiety. I was like, she says.
No, you know. I know I've been telling
Desiree. I was like, Brick is so nice,
Like super nice. When we first had our first face
FaceTime, I was like, wow, she'sso like down to earth and so
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friendly. Thank you.
That's really. Cool.
Yeah. So I was so excited and, and
just to, I don't know, like I said, just to see how, yeah, how
down to earth you are and how you really want to help people
row. Yeah.
And that resonates with me a lotbecause the reason I became a
bookkeeper was so that I could help the beauty industry grow.
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And we need help in that department bad.
Ohh yeah. Really bad.
That was one of my first hires was a bookkeeper because
finances I'm like this is. Wild.
See, when I was behind the chair, there was nobody for me
to turn to. And I was like, and if I asked
anybody, it was like, well, no, you can't write that off.
And and I was like, but it's stuff that I use.
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And so it was very hard to get somebody that to understand the
needs. And so finally in 2021, I was
like, OK, if nobody's going to understand the needs, then I
have to be the one that understands any problem.
Yeah, you became the solution, so.
There's a theme here. Oh.
Man, so when I heard you say that today, I was like, holy
shit, that's true. You just.
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If you can't find somebody to doit for you, you have.
To do it yourself or something, yeah, absolutely do it the way
you. Want Yeah, yeah.
I love that Jackie. Oh, my dad's Jackie with her
acne treatments and all that. Yeah, I just, I'm like I have to
pull from all these different brands to get what I want.
And even with your events, I've never said like there's one
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brand that I use on just everybody.
That's that is not correct. Like I pull from like different
lines to treat people, even if it's just the same person.
The routine is. The routine is.
Yeah, man. So do you try to do a lot of the
like these events when you get asked to do them or how does
that like how does that work foryou?
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Because I know you have a team already and obviously, you know,
you have so many followers on Instagram, on YouTube, because
you've done all the things to, to help people.
So now how do people get throughyou?
And I mean, honestly, for me, I was so shocked that I even, I
was able to, you know, 'cause I was like, oh shit.
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She said yes, I've. Messaged a lot of people with no
reply or a scene message. I'm just like.
Oh no, you'll never get that from.
And if you do, I'm very sorry. It probably ended up in some
weird folder on Instagram. But no, that's no, we replied to
everybody. So yeah, to answer that question
with events like this is still pretty new to us, but once doing
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the trade shows and just seeing like it's such a higher impact
being in person. So I'm like, heck yeah, I'll do
it. I want to get in front of more
people to be able to inspire them, to help them grow and
ultimately help them towards their goals.
However it is that I can help inthat way.
So I feel I'm like, it's just crazy.
It's very cool. It's very cool to be able to be
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in this position now and be ableto give back in that sort of
way. That's awesome.
I enjoy it. So as far as I know you have,
you obviously have the free course for for waxing, but I
know you also help mentor peopleor coach people to get to their
first, what, 100,000? Yeah, I always, everyone kind of
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has that goal in mind, right? Their first goal to hit 6
figures. I definitely at this point feel
super confident to be able to help people beyond that as well.
But most of my audience seems tobe newly solo or maybe they've
built to a certain point, they just need that help to get that
extra boost. So yeah, that's kind of my focus
is like, get to your first six figures.
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But we can even scale beyond that as well.
I've learned a lot with my product side of my business and
building our own team. I believe we're at like at least
nine employees now and there's some contractors and stuff as
well. So yeah, I, I love coaching is
like sometimes I'm like, I feel like I should be paying them for
this a little bit. I love being able to have like
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an outsider's view into someone's business and be able
to see like, OK, if we tweak this and this and this and it
not be necessarily my business Ihave to take home.
So it's it's really fun to be able to do that.
Because you're able to, you're able to see their problems and I
think at the same time you're able to see where you went wrong
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probably at the beginning of your business.
And you're like, man, I could help this person not go through
that. Exactly.
And that's the biggest. So I started working with a
business coach myself personallytwo years ago.
His name's Pedros Coolian. If anyone's heard of him, he's
kind of like a he's a man's man.He talks more to men than he's
definitely. I was the first beauty industry
coaching client of his, but it'sjust like completely changed,
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changed us personally and our business.
And so I'm, I'm a huge advocate now for like just hire a coach
sooner, but you have to be careful who you hire has to be
someone who's not talking theoryand who has done the thing that
you're looking to do. So that's the biggest thing with
that because there's, there's plenty of coaches within our
industry now that are, are greatchoices too.
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So whoever you vibe with, whoever has done the thing
you're looking to do, I'm a big fan of it because you, you
bypass what's my, my coach callsit ignorance tax.
That's what it is. You get to like save on the
ignorance tax. So and that's true and even, you
know, I always I'm sure you get them out a lot too, but where
people are sending you DM sayinglike, oh, I could help you grow
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your social media or I could help you do this.
Like those weird. Yeah, and it's like you go and
look at their page because that's what they do, right?
And they have like 100 followersand you're like, motherfucker,
how are you going to help me when you can't even get.
I tend to. I wonder that myself.
Or they have a scary amount of you like or sorry a scary amount
of followers but like no likes, no comments and stuff.
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Yes, engagement. They have.
They have bought the follows. Yeah, I will absolutely never.
That destroys pages and brands when you get up.
Yeah, it's just so tacky. Then you see, and then if you
are following their account, 'cause you haven't caught on
yet, you get like hit with a bunch of bots in your like your
message, your DMS. And I'm just like, oh, I know
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that girl. I've built my, I've sit on the,
I've built my dog's IG. So I can like tell what other
people now are like have bots. Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, what's the goal with that?
Because those bots are not goingto become clients, they're not
going to become customers. That's what I.
Don't understand. I don't.
I don't understand. And not only that, it actually
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takes away from getting in frontof the right eyes and the right
audience. It messes with the Algar, all of
it. Don't buy followers.
I was at the end and don't buy followers.
And then it's embarrassing when you know that somebody else is
buying followers and they act like they don't buy the
followers because I've I've had that happen to our really.
Bro. Like I know you don't have that.
We we know yes, it's like you goand get the engagement like you
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said. So for you, when you started
growing your business for the waxing part of it first and
getting the clients and and doing all that, did you ever do
like the Google paid ads? Did you ever do the Instagram
paid ads? Not originally.
I am now for my new studio. We just opened in January.
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So I've had this salon for four years, but I I was working out
of it. Then once I was out of treatment
room, we just started renting out the rooms.
Now we're doing Commission based, so new to new realm to
me. So we are doing that now, but I
never did that and I built my own client.
OK, I'm not opposed to it though.
Now that I'm working with my coaching clients, I'm like, heck
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yeah, let's do it. But you have it's all in the
conversion. So if you can pay and drive
traffic to your page or to your website, but if your website
isn't built or your Instagram isn't built to convert them,
then it's like you're paying forall this traffic, but they're
not going to book. So we always get all that set up
first before ever looking at paid organic is king.
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So organic content or and getting all that set up first
before ever doing paid ads is really important.
So you're no longer behind the chair?
I'm not. That's awesome.
It's so sad. OK, that was my next question.
Does it make you feel sad? Do you miss?
It I do miss it, but my team needs me and my business needs
me elsewhere right now. So maybe in the future, who
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knows, maybe I'll have like a day a week or something.
Or do I still get to wax though?Because I do on YouTube.
I have my educational, you know,demos and stuff like that.
That's really cool because I didI I was strolling through
through your on YouTube and I dosee like all the bad education
that you try to push out Yeah, I.
Have learned so much. Like, man, I'm gonna be a waxer
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maybe so I can play with it. Right.
Oh my gosh, I swear those on TikTok sometimes that's what
gets me when they're just like melting the wax and they just
they just. Pull on that oddly sound.
No, I like the. The ASMR.
Laying, laying it. I'm like, yeah.
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
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OK, so you have 3 kids. 3 Yep tell.
Us a little bit about that. Yeah, Oh, my goodness.
So I was a Teen Mom. So when I was in aesthetic
school, I actually, my daughter turned 1 while I was in school.
So wild time. She's going to be 15 next month,
which is so crazy, right? 15.
Why does that sound so weird? Because.
It's 15 so she'll be like 3 kidsreminding me I can get my
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permit. I know that's so.
That's crazy. That's wild.
That permit thing, let me tell you, I'm terrified.
That's scary. Yeah, that is scary.
Scary. My 22 year old just learned to
drive at the beginning of this year.
But my 16 year old has a permit.Yeah, I'm like, you guys are
still babies. This doesn't make sense.
Who let us drive at that age? I'm like, that's terrible.
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And I was in back in Orange County, so I'm driving like the
LA highways and stuff. I'm like.
This is my. God, terrifying, I think.
About that too. And I'm just like, I, I was
like, I what? I literally got behind the wheel
15. I'm like peace out.
Like I'm I'm ready to go. But now I'm like my daughter's
six and she has nine years left to drive.
Now you're counting down, yeah. And now it's.
Hilarious. I mean, we're lucky because
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there's life 360 and there is Find My iPhone or the family
thing on the on the iPhone. So you could keep track of of
where they're at. Yeah, she obviously my 16 year
old does not drive by herself yet.
She's learning to drive stick. Oh, good.
Good for you. That's very cool.
Oh. Shit, but it's scary.
I know, I know, but that's like a great like life, just skill to
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have. My husband hasn't let me like,
learn to drive the stick. Serious.
No. Wow, like you have to learn I
feel. Like you think so?
Yeah. Yes it's bad.
I feel like when a girl knows how to drive stick shift is
badass. It's pretty bad.
It's pretty badass. Gotta do it.
And who knows, you might be in asticky situation one day and
then hot wire a car. We need to like, learn to hot
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wire. Too, while we're at it.
I'm just kidding. Just.
Kidding. Commit Grand Theft Auto.
Yeah, I mean, we grew up playingGrand Theft Auto.
They were programming us. I'm just kidding.
So 15 year. Old and back to the children.
So she'll be going into high school.
Then I have my middle child girl, she just turned 10,
Trinity, she's my little entrepreneur.
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You guys will see from her. So she just told me the other
day she wants to be a waxer. I'm like, alright, so who knows
if that will stick. I, I'm never going to pressure
my kids into the business, but I'll, I'll be super stoked if at
least one of them. And then my son, he's, he's 7,
he's 7. Yep.
He's the only boy and the baby. So, but they love work in the
warehouse with us. And yeah, so they're, but the
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two little ones though you'll, you'll kind of see them on my
social media a little bit. I'm very cautious about posting
my kids too much. My oldest doesn't really love to
be on there. So you don't see too much of her
on there? She's like, forget.
She's like, whatever, Mom, Yeah.But she does.
I did earn cool points with her friends because one of them was
on YouTube and one of my shorts popped up and they're like, your
mom's a YouTube. So now I'm like.
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You're like, if you only knew, Like what's your daughter's
name? Riley.
Riley, if you only knew how coolyour mom is.
Like your mom is a badass and she is.
She is famous in this world. OK, so.
You should be very proud to me. But it's, it's so, it's so
awesome. Like I said, it's so awesome.
And it's, it's what every, I think every person in the beauty
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industry kind of strives for, not the famous part, just the,
the getting there and not meaning to become famous, but
the being able to teach others and to grow.
Stay humble. Yes, we just add that, yes.
We have a sign in our our room. It says stay humble and kind.
I guess it's a country song. I didn't know that when we
bought the the sign, but no. No, I'm going to have to look
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for that country song. Yeah, man.
If anyone knows, drop it in the.Drop it in.
Seriously. Down below.
So from all your kids, has it been easier with the girls or
easier with the boy? Oh.
It switches up. They like tag team though.
Like, all right, it's your turn now.
You're going to give them a hardtime.
Oh seriously, mine. No, mine collaborate together.
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They're like, OK, let's get let's do this behind mom's back.
And just like, no, they team up now when they came of age.
I feel like girls are so much easier than boys.
Yeah, our son is like, he's likemy husband's nodding in the
behind the singing theory. Yeah, my my son's pretty.
He's I don't know. I I feel like though it's more
of a what do they call that birth order?
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I feel like it's more of a birthorder thing.
Like my oldest is very much the oldest.
My middle child is very much themiddle child and the baby is
very much acts like the baby. So there was like a TikTok.
Sound, have you seen this? Yes, I've seen it.
And have you seen the the 1:00 where they're putting like their
rent? I think the oldest was like 500
or something like that or 100 and then the middle child 500
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and then plus they had to do thelawn and all kinds of other shit
and then the baby take out the trash.
I was like, damn, that's so real.
I know. It really is.
Yeah, 33 is funny. It's a it's a thing.
Yeah. I feel like have two or four. 3
is like. So that's why I have 4:00
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because I, I couldn't have a, anodd number because then the
middle child was very much the middle child.
And so we're like, no, we can't have the middle child.
And then she would get forgottenbecause she's so easy and or
she's, you know, the one that's always trying to do good.
And so she wants to go unnoticed.
And I'm just like, OK. But now it's the two girls.
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The two boys. Perfect.
Yeah. But the, the girls are so much
easier than the boys. The boys.
Oh, man, they gave me insane. I love.
Them Oh no, my my daughter is like the boss of me sometimes,
or she at least she thinks she is.
She's very sassy, really like she needs to be like the mom and
then bosses like my son around, which is she's the younger boy,
right? So he's just like Sophia, like
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he throws his fits like 'cause she's trying to tell him what to
do. Yep.
But then sometimes she's like, oh, Callum, go crazy or or go go
wreck this. I'm just.
Like, oh. My, I heard you.
That's. Crazy.
So how long have you been married?
We have been married 10 years. Oh my God, I'm like, you're
inviting me Also. Oh my God, the.
Personal question. Yeah, we celebrate 10 years in
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September. Thank.
You we're middle school sweethearts, we like to say.
So we met and dated in 8th grade, whatever that means.
I think we held hands and like had a, a Peck or something.
And then we kind of like went inour separate ways for a little
while. So we we haven't been dating
since 8th grade but we reconnected when we were both
21. Oh, that's awesome.
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Oh man. So how does it feel?
Because I know you mentioned on your stories yesterday that this
was that you were glad you were,that he was going to be able to
come with you. So are you always traveling
alone? Most of the time, so usually I
have my husband or we're as a team.
So my husband, my videographer and my assistant.
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Or it will be just myself and myvideographer.
And has he always been this supportive?
Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Yeah.
And yeah, my husband's awesome. We've always just filled in
where we needed to. So whether it was me supporting
him and we had a moving company when we first were dating.
So you know, I was supporting him in that and then it
transferred like this was starting to really take off.
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So he supported. We just like fill in where his
where he's needed. So it's we make a good team and
I know not a lot of people have that and I don't realize that
until I spend a lot of time around.
There may be couples in businessor, or just talking with other
women entrepreneurs. So very blessed in that.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's one of the things that I
always say like your partner hasto be supportive and because I
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think things run so much easier because whatever you can't do,
he can do and or you know, vice versa.
And for me, I feel like, man, ifmy husband wouldn't have
supported me and all the crazy shit that I'm constantly
thinking about, I don't know where I'd be right now, you
know? But because he always follows
along, even if it's crazy even. If he thinks.
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It's not going to, you know, it's not going to work.
He doesn't tell me it's not going to work.
He'll just be like, OK, all right, Yeah.
And if it doesn't work and I'm I'm all bummed, he's like, well
at least you tried. It on to the next what's your
next idea Let's go. But it's so important we're
actually having that conversation earlier today and
it's like really your partner makes it or break it if if
you're especially as an entrepreneur, it really can make
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it or break it for you and and they can be supportive in other
ways. Not everyone has the luxury of
now working full time together like we do.
It can just be supporting you like it does emotionally.
It doesn't have to be actually working.
And some people maybe they shouldn't work in business
together too. But you can support in so many
different ways and so important.Me.
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My goal is for my husband to notwork.
AW2UH huh. And so that we could just, you
know, kind of work together, I. Love that.
Weather, whatever that might look like.
Yeah, but I'm like, imagine likewe could travel wherever we want
whenever 'cause even. And it's a really.
Oh my God. Exactly.
Yeah. Because even now, like, we go on
vacation, but he has to get vacation time.
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And I'm just like, well, you tell me when 'cause I could
bring my work with me, you know?Yeah.
Which that's a blessing too. So you're, you're on, you're
almost there. You're almost there.
That's very cool. Yeah.
So I'm just like, come on. You just gotta, you know, Yeah,
get there. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I gotta get there so that we could get there.
Yeah, but that's the goal. It's always, I think, to have
that supportive husband and thenthe kids too, because I think if
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the kids are not understanding of what you're doing, why it is
that you're doing everything that you're doing.
A lot of the times also as a mom, you get that mom go, yeah.
Does that ever happen to you? Sometimes, but I have to say I'm
we're so much more present with our kids now than we ever were
before. Because before it's like we both
were on separate schedules and we weren't both dropped.
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Now we both dropped the kids offat school.
We both picked them up and like,yeah, we'll do things like this,
but we're gone for 2-3 days. And but they get us on the daily
throughout, you know, on a regular basis.
And then when it's us traveling,they're with their grandma.
So my husband, my mother-in-law,my husband's mom.
And so we spend so much more time together now.
So even though we, we're definitely very busy, but it's
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very, it's quality time. We're both and we can drop
everything. If the school calls and one of
them's sick, we can drop everything.
We're busy, but we're, we're flexible and we own, we finally
own our schedule rather than when he was working, you know,
blue collar wear construction, Iwas at European wax center.
We were on someone else's schedule.
We weren't there for, we had to find babysitters all the time
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and after school care and all ofthat.
So they are yeah, I it doesn't creep in as much now I'm I'm
very proud of what we this was always the intention was that's
awesome. The time and financial freedom.
And then at that time you were in California, correct?
So in California you have to work like 10 jobs I swear.
Seriously. Husband, wife, 2 jobs each year
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and you're still struggling to pay the bills?
Yeah. Because I remember living down
there and just, you know, I mean, I grew up in, I'm from,
from Tijuana. I was born in in Tijuana, raised
in San Diego, and then the last 10 years of being in California,
I lived in the high desert, okay.
Where? Where about Hesperia?
Okay, cool. Yeah, my husband has a lot of
family in like Palm Desert. Okay, cool.
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Yeah, so man, you know, and thenit just got.
We were both working, you know, and I was driving to Hollywood
for school, and then I was doingall the things.
But it's like, yeah, I'm like, how are we still broke?
Yeah, you know, and. Like how am I working this hard?
Yeah, and our. Time with our kids.
And then the time with the kids was like almost non existent.
And then you still have the housework to do and the grocery
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shopping and all that. So then you're just always tired
and stressed and. Yeah.
And then we moved here and I'm just like.
Oh, breath of Yeah, although thehumidity, I don't know, you get
used to it. I.
Promise you, you get used to it.I remember the first time I ever
came to to Texas was in 2015, and it was for a conference for
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an MLM company. And Houston, yeah, and Houston.
And I remember just getting out of the airport and I was like,
what the fuck? Is that it hits, Yeah.
It was horrible, Yeah. It was like the worst thing
ever. And I was like, there's no way I
could ever live here. And here you are.
And loving it. Yeah, that's awesome.
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I love that. I feel like so many once you
kind of leave California, it's hard to, I don't know, you go
back the only I just feel bad. Everyone always asks, do you
miss California? I'm like miss my family and
maybe the weather, but I'm like,I'm not going to live somewhere
just for the weather. I miss the beach.
I do miss. And that's it.
Yeah. That is the literally that is
it. Yeah.
See. I have family out there too, and
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that's the only thing that I miss from California, you know,
Yes, the weather's nice, but would I ever go back?
Yeah, Fuck no. Yeah, there's no way you're done
with California. There is no way and and I love
everything here. I homeschool my kids.
Yeah, that's amazing. Your.
Time. Yeah, yeah.
So if you ever think about it, you should do it.
I'm telling you it's it'll be the best thing you could ever.
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We may do that with our our, we'll see.
High school starts in September,so Oh my God.
Oh man, so they have a long break.
Yeah, we're like on the old school.
That's schedule of like getting started after Labor Day.
Yeah, an actual 3. Almost three months, right?
Yeah, like 2 1/2, three months, yeah.
'Cause I think it's like a monthnow for yeah.
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And then they go to school from like freaking 8:00 to 5:00.
Oh wow, that's crazy. Here, at least, it's like, yeah.
Work to five, yeah. That's a long.
It's like a. Full time job bro.
Yeah, my daughter goes to well. Oh, she goes to a little church
school, though it looks like a small little thing.
So it's like still. Trying to keep things.
Like 9:00 to 2:45. Oh, that's.
Normal. I.
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Don't. I don't want to start time.
Oh, good start time. Girl waking up.
Early, don't get me started. I yeah, that's a good.
I did something else before and I just, I was like late every
single day or my kids didn't want to wake up and I'm like, I
don't want to either. Oh man, so, so from here, you
know, like you've reached your goals that you had at the
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beginning. What are?
What is? What's next?
World domination. I'm just I'm.
Just kidding. Well, that's the thing.
None of this really was the goal.
I have to say. Like it really.
It's just organically and naturally has come about.
But I've always been one to see a problem, want to create a
solution, right? So without saying too much, I
see a big problem with when girls graduate, they don't have
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really solid place to go work and make a thriving wage, get
the good training and a thrivingwage talking specifically
waxing. So I will just say I'm starting
with with my first studio and then we will see where that
grows down there. How exciting because a lot of
the times too, I don't know whatthe, the, the laws are where
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you're at, but I know laws always change as far as having a
W21099 or, you know, Commission employee.
A lot of the times things get blurred and salon owners
sometimes don't know exactly howthings should be running and
they end up paying. Telling somebody you're
commissioned but you're not an employee.
You're 1099, but that's not. No, that's not, that's not.
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There's a lot of people misclassified for you, yes.
Yeah. Yeah, so we're doing things by
the book and. So how?
Because I know you said you usedto have Commission, correct?
We have, we've transitioned to Commission to Commission now in
January. So how hard was that for you to
do, or how easy was it for you to do?
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It wasn't hard or easy. I don't know.
We just kind of like dove in butt.
I've been working with my business coach, so I had him
first of all to go to and I I'vemade relationships within the
industry like Lady Ping and Tanya with just the strip.
So they gave me some guidance aswell.
So I felt like I was in a good position.
Like if I would have done this earlier it I would have been
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probably super messy, but it wasjust a good timing.
So it was pretty easy. But always with anything new,
there's always those hurdles that come up and then you just
kind of, I don't know, as an entrepreneur, you have to be a
good, you're a firefighter and you're a problem solver.
So I'm constantly putting out fires and solving problems.
So I just did the same with the studio.
So for someone who's established, what are some of I
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guess some advice that you couldgive them when they're trying to
scale or to, to grow their team or what are your, your, what's
your advice to them? Yeah.
So first of all, creating the systems and automations like we
were talking about today so thatyou can easily pass it along to
someone else. So if we're still doing old
school like book booking of people and the follow-ups and
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all of that, it's not that's notreally scalable or easy to pass
along to someone. So really nailing it down for
yourself first and then just hiring the right people.
So I mean, for me, like having abookkeeper was super important
for me. So having all the back end stuff
taken care of so that now you could put really your focus into
the training. Then like super tactically, I
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would say at least being able tobring 30 to 40 new clients in a
month. So if you know how to market and
do that and consistently be bringing in 30 to 40 new clients
and that's a great time to bringon an employee.
And then the hiring process is really important so you're
getting the right people. We've learned so much on our
product side and hiring within our warehouse and just on our
team of what not to do so. Yeah, just.
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Knowing how to hire correctly isgoing.
To be really important, right? Like whatever you're hiring for
or the, the position that you'rehiring for, they're all
different. It's all not it's not like it's
a cookie cutter that you're paying everyone.
You're not paying everyone the same.
Everybody has a different job. So then you have do you have
employee handbooks? We are creating that, but now
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we're we're getting a lot betterat yeah, no, because it's hard.
It's so hard having your the correct title for people.
It's easier to promote than it is to demo.
So you know, if anything start with like a lower people are
very into their the titles of their positions.
And I didn't realize how big of a thing this was, the
description and just job duties and all that super important to
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have very clear or if you're unclear, like we just kind of
created a new position that wasn't.
So she's my social media assistant.
So I just, I needed someone to help me execute on all these
different things. So I'm like, this isn't a
position we've ever had before. So we're kind of creating a
position. So being really clear at the
beginning, like this is chaotic.We're going, we're building
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together. Like we don't have a clear
description. So is there anything that you
are just unwilling to do? Like let us know now.
So sometimes you're creating something out of nothing too.
But for other positions like, well, bring it back to waxers
and stuff like that's pretty straightforward and clear of
like the job duties that you want them to, you know, do.
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How hard is state board exactly where you're at now?
It's. Not been difficult, but I've
also I've this is now my third time building a clientele.
Yeah, so it's not I just know where to go now to find the
answers to my questions. Honestly, though, ChatGPT
nowadays, you guys, holy crap. If I would have had that when I
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first was building, geez. But yeah, I'm just, I would say
I'm more resourceful that it's, it's much easier for me to find
the answers to my question. Yeah.
State board hasn't, but we just got inspected and we.
Everyone's going. Yeah, I forgot to hang my
license up on the wall. That was the only thing.
He's like, great that you have it here.
It's in the drawer. It needs to be on the wall.
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I'm like, oh, yeah. So he was really nice and my
husband went and hung it for us and I was it.
I feel like California is the hardest state board.
It is Oregon's pretty is really follows California though.
But coming from California, you're like, you're just used
to. Yeah, 'cause I remember 30.
Yeah, the first time I ever had today board show up here in
Texas at my studio, I remember, like, I knew they were coming
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because it was at a sola, so they have to tell you that
they're coming, OK? So I remember when I found out
they were coming, I made sure everything was labeled properly,
that everything was exactly how we were supposed to have it back
home. And then I remember they came in
and he just kind of looked over everything.
And then he was like, OK. And I was like, wait, so I, I,
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I'm a dumbass. I stopped and asked questions
because I, I'm like, well, I have a question like, is this,
how is this supposed to be this way?
Because I'm from California, so I heard some you don't have to
label these things and he's, Oh no, you don't have to, but good
for you. I was like, what?
You know, like, so there were certain little things and I was
like, I was expecting so much more because I remember the
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fines that I got out there for. We were traumatized, yes.
It's some PTSD going on there. But no, OK, so I'm glad.
So they follow through kind of like California as well.
OK. Well, that's good.
But I just so for your audience,wherever you're at, like look up
on Google or tragedy, which I just self inspection list.
So I would type in like California State board aesthetic
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self inspection list. So that's just what we do and we
kind of went through our own self inspection.
Yeah. And then keep keep one too, like
print it out and keep it out of your spa so you don't forget in
case because I'm always like, I keep searching and searching and
I was like, no, I need to just have the list handy just so I
like can refer to it. Yeah, yeah.
Especially now you're moving to a different state.
You are. She's leaving.
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She's leaving me. I know.
So my husband's in the Air Force, so we jump around, but
I'm going to North Carolina, where didn't.
You live in North Carolina. My husband was there.
Really. OK, Did you like it?
I asked her. I asked her husband today.
I'm like, are you excited, Tylerto be going to?
He's like, no. And I said because I know you
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didn't like San Antonio. He's like, well, if I had a
choice, I'd rather stay in San Antonio than go to North
Carolina. It's an adventure.
It's I just, I just like new, just a new vibe, a new.
That is all down for moving. I'm so down.
I wanted to go to Europe, but I mean, North Carolina is great
too. We'll take that.
Yeah, whatever she's like, it iswhat it is.
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Yeah. All right, So can you let people
know where they can find you? Yeah.
Which I mean, I'm sure y'all, ifyou're watching it, you know
where you can find her. But still, please let us know
where they can find you. What are you going to be doing
next? Are you going to any
conferences? What's coming up for?
Yeah, yeah. OK, so you can find me on
Instagram, Bree Masquit, YouTube, Bree Masquit, TikTok,
Bree Masquit. You can also find our product
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Lash and Wax OC, which hopefullya rebrand will be coming soon.
Where it be just Rebel Wax lash and wax OC came from that was my
salon and and it just kind of stuck.
So it's time for. The lashes.
I did I did lashes and waxing inOrange County.
That's why I lash and wax OCA lot of people think it's CEO for
like company, but it's OC for Orange County and stuff.
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But where will we be next? So we have Long Beach coming up
in August. So the trade show I'll be doing
a wax class in Long or in Fountain Valley.
So in Orange County as well. So if anyone and I do business
building. What was that?
It's ISIS, right? That's the show and and my
workshop is like I just do that privately.
So that's that's awesome. We'll be in Fort Lauderdale.
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I was just asked to go there. I feel like we have a lot Oregon
aesthetic show. So that's in Portland.
That's in October and I'm sure we'll be some other places.
Just follow me on the gram Follow.
Her. Watch her her YouTube channel,
she has a lot of useful information.
The Rebel show, yes. Yes, my podcast The Rebel.
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Yes. So are you also on Apple and?
Yes, anywhere where there's. Garden casts where you can.
Watch this. Every everything will be tagged
below. So yes, Matt, Matt, but yes,
please follow her. We're so grateful that you took
the time out of. Your day, I'm grateful.
Thank you for. Having with us, we're so
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excited. We're very happy that you were
here. We're very happy that you were
at GLOW and gather with Jackie'sevent.
Yeah, that was a great event that was.
You guys did a great job. Thank you.
That is so impressive to fill a room that size with that many
people. No, don't say that.
No, it is. No, seriously, that's like
extremely impressive. I was telling my husband, I'm
like, dude, look at all these people they got here.
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That's you're building community.
It's really beautiful to see. We need more of that.
Yeah, that's that's why Glow andGather is really important to me
in Desiree because I feel like the community is so large out
here in South of Texas, but there's just no education out
here and events like this for people in San Antonio or even
like South Southern than that, like some people can't drive to
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Dallas like 5 or so many hours. Gosh, I did not realize how.
I mean, I knew Texas was big, but like takes.
Like 8 hours to get out of freaking Texas.
That's. Crazy.
Man, So yeah, no. It's very impressive.
You guys did a great job, right?Thank you so much.
That means a lot coming. And especially.
And I mean, I'm not blowing smoke.
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I just would be quiet, man. Look at look at how you guys got
like I it's the speakers that you guys had.
They they're so knowledgeable and I think that's so great, you
know, and that's what I told you.
I'm like, I'm so proud of you that you know that this is your
second year and. 2nd year. Yeah, second.
Year, I feel like we're in the baby process.
Like it's. That's super cool.
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Yeah. But see, this is exactly what I
always try to tell them. Just get started.
You can figure it out as you go too, Literally.
Then you, you know, pivot where you need to be.
Each year will get better and better.
But it was fantastic. That was great.
You did a great job. So thank.
You so much for being on. Of course, we're so happy that
you were that that you like I said that you took the time and
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we can't wait to keep on following you and, you know,
listening to you on your podcast.
Yeah. Don't forget to follow.
And that's all guys. Thank you so much for for
watching us every week. And you know yes, this is our
last guest episode together. Together, yes, with, you know,
Bree and and Jackie and Jackie. Yes, this is so you're you're
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basically I move very soon. Yes, yeah.
So you're our our cherry on top,you know to end her her.
Thank you. My rain is clean.
The beauty bound, Yeah. Yeah, so, so thank you so much
for making you know her her lastguest episode with, you know,
with our with an amazing guest and.
Oh my gosh, yes. We're so, so lucky to have you
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here and it's been a long day. I know it's.
Just like my eyes are like hurting.
Like are your eyes hurting? Yeah, bye, guys.
Thank you. Yes, bye.