January 19, 2025 • 28 mins
Clint Pulver emphasizes the critical importance of quality in content creation, particularly in the world of speaking and online presence. He shares his journey back into aviation after overcoming significant health challenges, highlighting the power of storytelling in his new YouTube series, "Finding Hill."
Clint discusses how a single video he produced generated over $3.5 million, showcasing the impact of investing in high-quality production. He stresses the necessity for speakers to present themselves professionally, from their websites to their keynote performances, to stand out in a competitive industry. Throughout the conversation, Clint underscores the significance of being not just successful but truly significant in life, advocating for a focus on creating meaningful experiences for audiences and fostering a positive impact on their lives.
Clint's insights on the power of high-quality content and personal branding offer a compelling narrative for anyone interested in the speaking industry or content creation. He argues that the first ten seconds of a video are crucial for engaging an audience, and underscores the significant impact that well-crafted visuals and messages can have on business success.
With a striking personal example, Clint recounts how a $1,500 video produced for his business generated over $3.5 million. This story illustrates the tangible rewards of investing in quality content and the dangers of adopting a 'good enough' mentality in an industry where excellence is the norm.
The conversation takes a personal turn as Clint discusses his journey back into aviation, chronicled in his YouTube series 'Finding Hill'. After facing the life-altering challenge of losing his medical clearance to fly due to a medical condition, Clint’s return to the skies is not just a testament to his passion for aviation, but also to resilience and hope. He emphasizes the importance of aligning one’s professional path with personal beliefs and values, particularly family and faith, which he considers the core of his life. This alignment influences the decisions he makes regarding the organizations he works with, opting to decline opportunities that don’t resonate with his ethical standards.
As the discussion unfolds, Clint shares his philosophy on creating experiences rather than mere presentations, a crucial distinction for anyone looking to make an impact as a speaker. He advocates for continuous improvement and excellence in every aspect of one’s work, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own journeys. The conversation serves as a powerful reminder that true significance in life comes not from financial success alone, but from fostering connections and creating lasting positive impacts in the lives of others.
Takeaways:
- The first 10 seconds of your video are crucial for capturing attention and engagement.
- Quality content creation is essential; hands-on involvement can set you apart from others.
- Success in the speaking industry requires a commitment to excellence and continuous improvement.
- Building a strong online presence and having high-quality materials can significantly impact your business.
- Creating a memorable experience for your audience is more important than just delivering a presentation.
- True significance in life comes from how you impact others, not just your success.
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The attitude of it's good enough.
It's an extremely quick way tobecome irrelevant in this business.
You know, it cost me $1,500 toproduce that video, and it's generated
over $3.5 million in my business.
Yeah, I think the power of thefirst 10 seconds in your video is
everything.
Video matters in this business.
Your website matters in this business.
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If you're a $20,000 keynotespeaker, your website better look
like a $20,000 website.
I don't care what you think.
I'm a just do me.
And I want to hear you sing.
I got working seven days aweek in 24 hours.
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Clint Pillar, welcome to the show.
And welcome to become your own superhero.
I'm honored to be here.
Thanks for inviting me.
Well, congusto, as they say in Spanish.
And Clint, you may not knowthis about me, but I've been privileged
to spend quite a few months inliving in Utah in the last couple
of years and Highland andAmerican Fork.
That's awesome.
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It's a good place.
Great place for great peopleand just for the folks at home.
Where are you dialing in from today?
I'm in Utah, just a little bitsouth of Heber City.
So I looked up ChatGPT and Iwanted to get some information about
Heber City.
And you know, it's obviously abeautiful place and there's hikes
and all this other stuff.
And I was like, give me somenotable people out of Heber City.
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And it gave me some likeNordic cross country skiers.
And I said, what about Clint Palmer?
And then it gave you a bit ofa breakdown about some of your background,
which we'll get into in a minute.
But I was like, what doesClint need to do in order to get
an automatic recognition fromAI when we search?
And he says to become amillion widely recognized and audit
more Mac notable person.
When searched, Clint Palmercan undertake several strategies
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to boost his visibility and influence.
Expand media presence,increase online engagement, public
speaking and events.
Collaborate with influencersand awards and recognitions, books
and publications.
Leverage SEO and onlinepresence, online courses, webinars,
community engagement, networking.
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Now, I don't know about you,Clem, but I don't know how much more
you could do to your name outthere into the world.
That's right.
I guess I need to just do moreof it.
So for the folks at home,stick around today, Clint is an extraordinary
transformational speaker, abrilliant author, a fascinating helicopter
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pilot and father andeverything in between.
And if you're looking for agap in your life that needs plugging
to help take you along to thenext step in your life.
This is going to be theconversation you're going to want
to hear today.
Clint, I really wanted tostart off today with a question for
you.
What currently on your heartthat's a major priority in your life
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that you're.
Dealing with 100% always.
My My family, my family and my faith.
Those are the two centralfocus points of everything.
Everything that I do on andoff the stage, everything I do in
my secular life, everything Ido, even my passions, it all typifies
to my faith and my family.
So outside of family andfaith, what are the topics of interest
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that are on your on your mindat the moment?
Yeah.
So right now we just launcheda new YouTube series called Finding
Hill and it's documenting myjourney back into the world of aviation.
I was a pilot 18 years ago andI had a medical disease with my eyes
and I was going blind and Ilost my medical and I wasn't able
to fly anymore.
And I won't ruin the story.
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You'll have to go watch theseries on YouTube.
But through a series of someamazing miracles, I'm able to fly
again.
And we purchased a helicopterin the UK that has never been seen
before and it's changing thegame of aviation and it's just a
wild and full, full onpassionate adventure in the pursuit
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of happiness and joy andpurpose for the folks.
I will have this the link tothe YouTube series in the show notes,
but I've watched both of theavailable ones so far and one thing
that really struck me,Clinton, and it struck me all about
everything that I've come toknow about you in the research I've
been doing is that theproduction quality of everything
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that you touch is probablysome of the best I've ever seen.
And given you are on thesurface of it, a one man show.
And I know that's probably notthe case.
I'm fascinated to know as afellow content creator and speaker
and whatever you want to callit, like what are you doing that's
so different to other peoplethat makes you stick out like that?
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Because it's just phenomenalto me.
I think for me, I've alwaysstrived to be very hands on in my
content creation.
I'm writing, I'm directing,I'm storyboarding, I'm visualizing
it, I'm going through andediting specific clips and again,
just trying to tell the beststory possible.
And I think sometimes ascontent creators it's here's a bunch
of footage, here's A bunch ofcontent and we hire it off to a team
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and chop it up and give mesomething that I can put on social
media.
And there's definitely somepros to that, but for me, I think
the differentiating factor hasbeen the involvement and the hands
on and how much I care aboutthe story and what it invokes in
people.
And so I think that would be alittle bit of the secret sauce maybe.
Do you get other peoplecommenting similar feedback to you?
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I do.
I mean, still to this day, thenumber one keynote generator in my
business came from a videocalled be a Mr.
Jesse.
And it has over 9 millionviews across all of the platforms
that that video lives on.
And I mean it won an Emmy award.
Like that's kind of crazy.
You know, it cost me $1500 toproduce that video and it's generated
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over $3.5 million in my business.
So I would say yeah, I wouldsay yeah, the quality has, has made
a difference and the marketand the audience has definitely taken,
taken note of that.
When I love that.
And look, a large number ofthe audience will be people in that
entrepreneurial space.
A lot of them will be speakersand writers and coaches, that type
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of thing.
Like what?
You know, you would easily berecognized as one of the top paid
speakers in the world, I wouldimagine, certainly in North America.
What advice would you give to,let's say me, right.
Who's four years into this andstill at times finding his feet.
What would be your specificadvice for someone like me with regards
to the way that I need topresent my website and any content
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that's on there that's reallygoing to make the most amount of
impact and compress time the fastest.
Yeah.
I think the power of the first10 seconds in your video is everything.
Video matters in this business.
Your website matters in this business.
If you're a $20,000 keynotespeaker, your website better look
like a $20,000 website.
Your book better look and feeland be that level of quality.
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Your keynote must be amazing.
You must be astonishing on stage.
You could be the mostbrilliant marketer that will get
you a few keynotes.
But the number one revenuegenerator and keynotes is being a
good keynote or having a greatspeech, being excellent on stage.
How do you create anexperience for your audience and
not just a presentation?
There's a big difference and Ithink understanding how to create
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that in everything that youdo, from your video to your website,
to your branding, to theconversations that you have with
individual, I mean, it all matters.
It's all about the experiencethat you provide.
And so just further to that,would you recommend basically not
having anything at all untilyou've got it to that point?
Like, is it going to do moreharm than good having a subpar website
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or subpar links and social media?
No, I think everybody,everybody has to start out with what
they have.
But you have to ask yourselfand have a serious conversation,
is it.
What I have is, is what I'mdelivering, is what I've put together
on my website, on my demovideo, is that the best I can do?
The attitude of it's good enough.
That's an extremely quick wayto become irrelevant in this business.
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Yeah, it's fine.
That'll do.
That's a really quick way tobecome irrelevant because there's
too many speakers and too manyauthors and too many coaches that
are doing this at a high levelin an amazing way, at all different
levels of experience and expertise.
And so if where you're at inyour journey and what you've put
on your site and what you'vecreated is the best that you can
do right now, then wonderful.
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Then you, you go as far as youcan see and when you get there, get
ready to go a little bit further.
But there really is no barrierto entry in this industry.
Anybody, anybody can literallychange their LinkedIn profile and
say, I'm a professional speaker.
And you kind of could be, butto do it at a high level consistently,
where you can do this for aliving, you can, you, you're making
consistent high fees, workingwith top tier organizations and associations
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and, and businesses as thekeynote speaker.
Very, very, very few people do that.
And it requires a specificlevel of excellence.
Always be the top of the top,everything, you know, expensive or
elaborate.
No, because that might not bewhere you're at.
You might be just trying toscrape by to get two keynotes so
you can create a demo video.
Do the best with what you have.
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And quality, quality always wins.
From a, an advice perspective.
Clint, who are some of thebest names that you can recommend
that people go and deep diveon to learn how to become the best
keynote presenters?
And for me, one of them is VinZhang out of Australia.
I'm sure you heard of Vin.
Vin's a great friend.
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Yeah, brilliant.
So, and for you, recommendations.
Yeah, Vin's incredible.
Vin and I are managed by thesame management company and so Vin
and I have known each otherfor, God, almost six, seven years
now.
Vin would be a definite one to watch.
Mark Scherembrock would beanother incredible person to, to
watch.
There's Even Chad Hymas is, is amazing.
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Jason Hewlett, who you and Iboth know is an incredible spe.
Phil Jones is another amazing speaker.
You know, and then you've gotEd Milet and Simon Sinek and some
of the other well knownspeakers that do a great job.
But there's many speakers, Imean, Matt Townsend, you've probably
never heard of him.
The dude's amazing.
Best, one of the best thatI've ever heard of.
But he's very specific in hisniche and what he does.
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But yeah, those would be a fewof my board of mentors, some of my
dear friends and people thathave expedited my success de.
Risked my failure rate in thisbusiness that I owe a lot to.
Yeah, some grind.
Couple of former guests onthere as well.
Chad Imus, one of the mostincredible, you know, paralyzed with
85% of his body and still oneof the most compelling speakers I've
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ever had the privilege oftalking to.
You know, and Clint, like,like a lot of professional speakers
and, and people in your space.
Do you like if for people thatare maybe a bit further along, that
have the resources and the,the baseline, can they hire you to,
to work one on one to, to workon these kind of things?
Yeah, yeah, I've worked, I'veworked one on one with, with speakers
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many times.
Yeah, it's something that Idon't necessarily promote or, or
do a lot of, but with select individuals.
Is there anyone that you'vementored or worked with in the past,
maybe in years gone by that'sblown up and that we might have,
that we might have heard of?
Two great speakers right nowthat are definitely worth following
and two, two gentlemen that I,I love and admire and I'm very proud
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of, Ryan Campbell out ofNashville, Tennessee, and, and Kyle
Shealy, who lives in Wisconsin.
Two up and coming speakersthat I've had the opportunity to
mentor and develop greatrelationship with and they're absolutely
crushing it right now on the circuit.
Man, you give me plenty ofnames to go back over and start doing
so.
It's amazing.
It's amazing being in thespace for as long as I have.
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I've interviewed 220 plusguests, probably about 20 hall of
Fame speakers, and I stilldon't recognize a lot of those names.
You know what's interesting, Plynden.
My wife and I just arrivedback in Australia after being on
the road for two and a half years.
And we, we went to Mexico andback and forth the United States
and, and in the US My accentallows Me to get away with blue murder.
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And.
And since I've been back,we're in the sunshine coast, which
is north of Brisbane.
Here it's a much smallercommunity, and what astounds me is
the sheer number of peoplethat say, you know, they talk to
me for a little bit, they go,laban, you, man.
You got the real gift of the gab.
You know, what's your adviceor your thoughts to those people
about this whole gift of thegab versus a learned skill?
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I think that some people haveinnate talents and gifts and abilities
and may be more naturallyinclined to talk to large groups
of people or love to beextroverted and carrying on conversations.
You know, I would evenconsider myself to be more of an
introvert.
You know, people ask, do youwant to go socialize with the client
before the event?
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And do you want, like, no, no,that's not like my jam.
I.
But the people would neverreally suspect that, right?
As a professional talker, aprofessional speaker, I love.
I love this, this.
This.
This philosophy.
Disney.
One of their principles isnever show the chords.
Never show the chords.
And if you go to Disneyland,you'll never see a cord, like an
electrical outlet, a plug.
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You know, you're watching theride, you're looking at the animatronics,
the magic, and you just don'tsee the chords.
And I love that.
And I think communication issomewhat like that.
Sometimes we're given a littlebit more natural ability or instinct
or talent, whatever you wantto call it.
But over time, I think toreally master it, whether you're
gifted with it or not, or youfeel like you have it or you don't,
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it is a skill that is craftedand reps are required and to the
point where when you get up onstage or even in a com.
In a conversation, they don'tsee the chords.
But it's.
But it's been rehearsed, it'sbeen practiced, it's been thought
through, it's been worked on,it's been reiterated and viewed and
reviewed and maybe feedback'sbeen given.
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And how you hold aconversation or how you listen or
how you have hardconversations can improve.
And I think always, in theworld of communication, what a gift,
right?
What a powerful tool that Ithink always requires constant tweaking
to the point where peopledon't necessarily see the chords.
And it becomes natural, itbecomes authentic, it becomes moving,
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powerful.
I think that's a beautifulpart of communication.
And what I find fascinating aswell, Clint, is like, if you were
to guess how manypresentations have you given in your
life off the top of your head?
Probably over 2,000 at this point.
Yeah.
So you're talking at least2,000 probably hours just in that.
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And that excludes all therehearsals and all the other stuff
you've done in between.
So your 10,000 hours islooking pretty good in terms of mastery
and dropping.
Out the arm for all the hoursthat were not on stage.
You know, Those are just 2,000hours on stage.
It is all the hours ofrehearsal and rehearsal and rewriting.
It's a lot like peoplesometimes it blows them away at what
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some speakers get paid to sayfor one hour.
But when you see the time, theeffort, the energy, everything that's
gone into creating that kindof magic, you know what I'm talking
about?
When you go, when you seesomeone on stage and it's like, that
was unbelievable.
That was a journey.
That was a moment in time thatI will never forget.
That moved me to my core.
Like, that is.
That's 10,000 hours.
You know, that is the unseenstuff behind the curtains of that
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stage that really make it whatit is.
Hey, g'day there.
And pardon the interruption.
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(15:36):
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Now back to the show.
And, you know, just from apersonal point of view, Claire, I
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gotta say, you are easily oneof the best technically brilliant
speakers that I've ever seen.
And I've, you know, consumed a lot.
And I was just fascinated toget to jump on this podcast with
today and ask you a few ofthese questions, really selfishly
for myself.
But I know other people willtruly benefit, because it just shocks
me the number of people thatdon't link their gap between the
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work that you need to do andthe link between being a brilliant,
effective communicator andseeing you present makes me sometimes
think, man, I like much morehave I got to go?
Because a lot of the time wespent when we're overseas, we were
in countries like Mexico,India and Colombia for the last five
months.
I Don't speak very good Spanish.
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And so I'm not getting that.
I'm not doing in person keynotes.
A lot of the stuff I was doingis with virtual, which I'm very,
very comfortable doing virtual.
Now that we're back here, I'mputting myself out there to get booked
for in person keynote, whichis what I really love to do.
And I love that energy.
There's no comparison forbeing in person versus virtually,
you know.
Totally.
And Gol.
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I remember.
I'll never forget 2020, March6, 2020, when the whole world changed
and we.
We.
Everything every I had, I.
I lost 30, 30 gigs that week.
And what went from an amazingyear and grit and determination and
all the blood, sweat and tearsto get to that point in my career
to then in a matter of a weekand a half, everything disappeared
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and we, we morphed intovirtual and gal.
It really weeded out a lot ofindividuals in our industry because
it became extremely tough and,and so that's awesome to hear that
you're still doing the virtual presentations.
I'm sitting right now in myvirtual studio that I created in
2020 that's still here.
And it's been interesting tosee the dynamics of.
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Of the industry.
As short time have I that I'vebeen a professional speaker to watch
how much it has changed evento today what what people are booking
and looking for.
I'm curious, Clinton, whatpercentage of those lost bookings
ended up converting to virtualpresentations later on?
Yeah, so they, they actuallythe two events that didn't cancel
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were the saving grace that Icredit so much of my success during
that, that pandemic too.
They canceled their liveevent, but they said we will keep
your original fee if you cando a virtual presentation.
I had never done a virtualpresentation in my life.
I have drums.
I mean that's part of my show.
How do you bring drums onto azoom call?
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How do you make this?
I create an experience througha virtual platform and it forced
me, but it also was a blessingbecause it gave me the budget to
create something that wasrevolutionary, that was unlike anything
else that had been done ordone in a way that nobody else was
doing in that during that time.
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And so because of those twoevents, I went all in where many
speakers were kind of, ah,this will pass.
Let's give it a few months.
I'm.
I'll be all right.
I've got, you know, and I justsaid I'm.
I got to go all in because Iwant to keep this fee.
I want to serve this clientand they're in a hard spot and we
got to make this epic.
And doing that and thencreating the demo video springboarded
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really a specific, specificstandard that that could be achieved.
Not that I'm, I'm saying thatit was anything amazing, but it just
showed clients, it showedbureaus like, oh my gosh.
Like, this is, this is another level.
Like, we had light up drums,we had five different cameras, we
had switchers, we had.
And it just created an experience.
And then that springboardedinto us having a halfway decent year
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during 2020 and then an evenbetter year beyond that in the virtual
space.
Yeah.
And that's awesome.
Clinton One of the, one of theguests on the podcast who then went
on to write a beautifulendorsement of my book was Sean Kanungo,
who I'm guessing you know, orhave heard of, certainly, who was
in the same situation as younever done a virtual and then ended
up being given the, the awardfor, from Forbes magazine, most best
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virtual keynote in the worldfor 2020.
You know, like, talk aboutsaying pretty special stuff.
You can't have been farbehind, I'll tell you that much for
nothing.
Yeah, it's a crazy time.
Crazy time.
Clint, A question that I'vegot for myself again, and folks listening.
Hope you don't mind me beingselfish here.
How do you navigate with your,with your faith and turning work
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away from companies that youdon't align with ethically or energetically
or spiritually?
Yeah, for me, my wife, myfamily and me, I made that decision
a long time ago that there arecertain values, there's certain core
beliefs and things that I'mfully all in on, I guess is a good
way to put it.
And when an organization comesin that's not aligned with that or
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does not promote that or isunethical in that regard, or again,
just a brand that I don'tbelieve in or support or fully want
to align myself with, thenwe've made that decision many times
and you know, it's full Vevent and it's, you know, at the
end of the day, like there'sjust so much more than, than, than
money.
And it's not even a brand or acompany that might not even align
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with what I'm doing.
There's certain things in mylife that I'm not going to miss.
There's something to be saidfor, excuse me, financial affluence
in this business.
And then there's another thingto be said for time affluence.
And thankfully, you know,through a lot of Hard work.
We've reached a point where,you know, the financial side is.
Is sufficient for me and mylife and my family.
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And the rest of it is now howdo I get more time affluent, to where
I have more time, where I canbe home when I want to be home.
And I can not miss theimportant sacred days and the moments
that, you know, as I've gotthree little kids, that there's just
a lot of things I don't wantto miss.
And before COVID I was on the road.
I had 112 events in a year.
That was the highest amount ofevents that I'd ever done, and I'll
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never do that again.
And so now.
Now the number is.
Is 50.
I won't do more than 50 eventsa year.
And we're.
We're approaching that number.
And so then we'll.
We'll roll it into next year.
He's not available this year,but you can roll.
And so it's.
It's being really focused onyour core values again, things that
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truly matter at the end of the day.
And for me, that's my faith inmy family.
So that's awesome, Clint.
I appreciate that a lot.
As we're coming to our aconclusion, are you okay for time
at the moment?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I want to talk aboutthis book, I Love it here, that came
out two and a half years ago.
Just for the folks listening,just a quick overview what the book's
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all about and what youintended to achieve when you wrote
it.
Yeah.
So six and a half years ago, Istarted a research project called
the Undercover Millennial Program.
And I'm a millennial.
That's the generation I wasborn in.
So I would go undercover intoorganizations as a young person looking
for a job, and I wouldinterview them, and I would say,
hey, I'm just thinking about applying.
What's it like to work here?
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And the employees would tellme everything.
And we worked with hundreds oforganizations, and I, as of this
year, I've interviewed over11,000 employees undercover.
And we created a book called ILove it Here.
And that's why I titled itthat, because that was the magic
of all of the research, iswhen I would go undercover and I'd
say to an employee, you know,I'm secure.
What's it like to work here?
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And when they would say, Ilove it here, I love.
I love my job.
Why?
What were those leaders doing?
What were the managers doing?
What were the bosses doing tocreate that kind of a response in
an employee?
And then the next employee andthe next.
And they created a culturewhere people didn't just survive
at work, but they actually thrived.
And it took me four years towrite the book.
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I'll never, I'll never writeanother book again.
I've said that for many years,and I still stand by that.
It was one of the farthestthings I have ever done in my life,
but I'm so proud of it.
It's, it's probably some ofmy, my best work in my professional
life, and I'm really proud of it.
But it took a lot.
It took a lot to writesomething that was different, unique,
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captivating.
You're taking all of thisresearch and you're combining it
into something that, thatmoves the needle, right?
It's not just some, you know,this is like, I think there's, like,
somebody told me there's like,15 leadership books published every,
like, six hours or something.
Like, I don't know.
There's just a lot, There's alot in this space.
And I wanted to createsomething that wasn't just a calling
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card, that wasn't just a book,because you need a book in this industry,
but something that was truly amanagement classic, something that
five years from now, it wouldstill be selling, it would still
be relevant.
And, you know, we're two and ahalf years out, and the book's still
performing very well, and it'sstill influencing a lot of people.
And still to this day, mycareer and my keynote is founded
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upon that.
So it took a lot of work.
I'll never do it again, butI'm really glad that I did.
Never say never, Clint, is mywhat I've learned.
And, because, and, and it is abrilliant book.
And there's someone who,because people like Shep Hyken and,
and Scott McCain have beenformer guests as well.
I've developed a real intriguein customer experience, and I find
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myself going out of my way toring organizations to let them know
how they can improve stuff.
And sometimes it's really wellreceived, and sometimes it's, you
know, because I, I, I become abig brand ambassador for brands and,
and products that I reallylove and utilize, and I want them
to succeed.
And when I can see thembringing detrimental things to themselves,
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it's like, let me help you.
Let me help you.
And so who knows, maybethere's a pathway later on for Laban
to, to talk about these kindof things as well.
I've got some great stories in there.
But, Clint, I'm very, veryappreciative and respectful of your
Time.
And I've grosslyunderestimated just how much time
we needed today because youhave such an incredibly broad and
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diverse background andinterest and we haven't really even
touched on the helicopterstaff and we had an opportunity to
share many of these stories.
So maybe there's anopportunity for you to come on the
show another time in the future.
My encouragement would be Iwould love to read a book about you,
like a memoir style book.
And I know never say never,but you know, mine has transformed
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my life.
It did a lot of healing andit's helped a lot of people through
the raw vulnerability that Iwas able to display there.
And just that's myencouragement from one professional
to another.
Do with that when you will.
But how do people get a holdof you?
Yeah, all the, all the, allthe usual places your website is,
clipholder.com Instagram,LinkedIn, all the social media platforms.
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Yeah.
Reach out anytime.
Anything I can do to help andsupport people, I'm in.
Brilliant.
Hey Clint, do you have anyconcluding thoughts for our amazing
audience today?
I guess the one thing that Iwould maybe just leave is something
that I look back on and we'vetalked a lot about just my career
and the speaking industry isthere's a difference in being successful
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in your life and truly beingsignificant in your life.
And at the end of a life, Idon't care what any of us do, none
of us are getting out of life alive.
And at the end of that life, Ithink everybody will be surrounded
by two things.
You'll be surrounded by thewoulda, shoulda, coulda's, or you'll
be surrounded by the do it,did it, done it's and to do things
in your life that have a levelof significance, not just success.
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I believe is a life well lived.
And my mantra and somethingthat I believe in and strive to create
my brand around is that it'snot about being the best in the world,
it's about being the best forthe world.
And that's what I cherish themost about my job, is that every
day and when I'm on stage, offstage, everything that we're striving
to do is to be the best forthe world, to be the best for that
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organization, to be the bestfor my friends, to be the best for
my family.
Can we create an organizationthat because of maybe something that
I said or maybe something thatI did, that a manager might implement
to the point that their teamgoes home better moms and they go
home better dads because workis a fulfilling experience.
It's a significant experience.
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And then because of that, wemight create better families.
You know, what an ideal, whata thing for me that's achieved a
level of passion, purpose, andthe ability to provide.
And it's something I'mgrateful for.
So something to think about.
How am I striving to not justbe the best in the world at what
I do, but how can I be thebest for the world at what I do?
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And that's something I thinkeverybody at one point will remember
you for.
Thank you for.
And again will mark a lifewell lived.
Ladies and gentlemen, Clint Pola.
The attitude of it's good enough.
It's an extremely quick way tobecome irrelevant in this business.
You know, it cost me $1,500 toproduce that video, and it's generated
over $3.5 million in my business.
Yeah, I think the power of thefirst 10 seconds in your video is
everything.
Video matters in this business.
Your website matters in this business.
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If you're a $20,000 keynotespeaker, your website better look
like a $20,000 website.
I don't care what you think.
I'm a just do me.
And I want to hear you sing.
I got working seven days aweek in 24 hours.
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Clint Pillar, welcome to the show.
And welcome to become your own superhero.
I'm honored to be here.
Thanks for inviting me.
Well, congusto, as they say in Spanish.
And Clint, you may not knowthis about me, but I've been privileged
to spend quite a few months inliving in Utah in the last couple
of years and Highland andAmerican Fork.
That's awesome.
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It's a good place.
Great place for great peopleand just for the folks at home.
Where are you dialing in from today?
I'm in Utah, just a little bitsouth of Heber City.
So I looked up ChatGPT and Iwanted to get some information about
Heber City.
And you know, it's obviously abeautiful place and there's hikes
and all this other stuff.
And I was like, give me somenotable people out of Heber City.
(01:22):
And it gave me some likeNordic cross country skiers.
And I said, what about Clint Palmer?
And then it gave you a bit ofa breakdown about some of your background,
which we'll get into in a minute.
But I was like, what doesClint need to do in order to get
an automatic recognition fromAI when we search?
And he says to become amillion widely recognized and audit
more Mac notable person.
When searched, Clint Palmercan undertake several strategies
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to boost his visibility and influence.
Expand media presence,increase online engagement, public
speaking and events.
Collaborate with influencersand awards and recognitions, books
and publications.
Leverage SEO and onlinepresence, online courses, webinars,
community engagement, networking.
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Now, I don't know about you,Clem, but I don't know how much more
you could do to your name outthere into the world.
That's right.
I guess I need to just do moreof it.
So for the folks at home,stick around today, Clint is an extraordinary
transformational speaker, abrilliant author, a fascinating helicopter
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pilot and father andeverything in between.
And if you're looking for agap in your life that needs plugging
to help take you along to thenext step in your life.
This is going to be theconversation you're going to want
to hear today.
Clint, I really wanted tostart off today with a question for
you.
What currently on your heartthat's a major priority in your life
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that you're.
Dealing with 100% always.
My My family, my family and my faith.
Those are the two centralfocus points of everything.
Everything that I do on andoff the stage, everything I do in
my secular life, everything Ido, even my passions, it all typifies
to my faith and my family.
So outside of family andfaith, what are the topics of interest
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that are on your on your mindat the moment?
Yeah.
So right now we just launcheda new YouTube series called Finding
Hill and it's documenting myjourney back into the world of aviation.
I was a pilot 18 years ago andI had a medical disease with my eyes
and I was going blind and Ilost my medical and I wasn't able
to fly anymore.
And I won't ruin the story.
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You'll have to go watch theseries on YouTube.
But through a series of someamazing miracles, I'm able to fly
again.
And we purchased a helicopterin the UK that has never been seen
before and it's changing thegame of aviation and it's just a
wild and full, full onpassionate adventure in the pursuit
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of happiness and joy andpurpose for the folks.
I will have this the link tothe YouTube series in the show notes,
but I've watched both of theavailable ones so far and one thing
that really struck me,Clinton, and it struck me all about
everything that I've come toknow about you in the research I've
been doing is that theproduction quality of everything
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that you touch is probablysome of the best I've ever seen.
And given you are on thesurface of it, a one man show.
And I know that's probably notthe case.
I'm fascinated to know as afellow content creator and speaker
and whatever you want to callit, like what are you doing that's
so different to other peoplethat makes you stick out like that?
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Because it's just phenomenalto me.
I think for me, I've alwaysstrived to be very hands on in my
content creation.
I'm writing, I'm directing,I'm storyboarding, I'm visualizing
it, I'm going through andediting specific clips and again,
just trying to tell the beststory possible.
And I think sometimes ascontent creators it's here's a bunch
of footage, here's A bunch ofcontent and we hire it off to a team
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and chop it up and give mesomething that I can put on social
media.
And there's definitely somepros to that, but for me, I think
the differentiating factor hasbeen the involvement and the hands
on and how much I care aboutthe story and what it invokes in
people.
And so I think that would be alittle bit of the secret sauce maybe.
Do you get other peoplecommenting similar feedback to you?
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I do.
I mean, still to this day, thenumber one keynote generator in my
business came from a videocalled be a Mr.
Jesse.
And it has over 9 millionviews across all of the platforms
that that video lives on.
And I mean it won an Emmy award.
Like that's kind of crazy.
You know, it cost me $1500 toproduce that video and it's generated
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over $3.5 million in my business.
So I would say yeah, I wouldsay yeah, the quality has, has made
a difference and the marketand the audience has definitely taken,
taken note of that.
When I love that.
And look, a large number ofthe audience will be people in that
entrepreneurial space.
A lot of them will be speakersand writers and coaches, that type
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of thing.
Like what?
You know, you would easily berecognized as one of the top paid
speakers in the world, I wouldimagine, certainly in North America.
What advice would you give to,let's say me, right.
Who's four years into this andstill at times finding his feet.
What would be your specificadvice for someone like me with regards
to the way that I need topresent my website and any content
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that's on there that's reallygoing to make the most amount of
impact and compress time the fastest.
Yeah.
I think the power of the first10 seconds in your video is everything.
Video matters in this business.
Your website matters in this business.
If you're a $20,000 keynotespeaker, your website better look
like a $20,000 website.
Your book better look and feeland be that level of quality.
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Your keynote must be amazing.
You must be astonishing on stage.
You could be the mostbrilliant marketer that will get
you a few keynotes.
But the number one revenuegenerator and keynotes is being a
good keynote or having a greatspeech, being excellent on stage.
How do you create anexperience for your audience and
not just a presentation?
There's a big difference and Ithink understanding how to create
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that in everything that youdo, from your video to your website,
to your branding, to theconversations that you have with
individual, I mean, it all matters.
It's all about the experiencethat you provide.
And so just further to that,would you recommend basically not
having anything at all untilyou've got it to that point?
Like, is it going to do moreharm than good having a subpar website
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or subpar links and social media?
No, I think everybody,everybody has to start out with what
they have.
But you have to ask yourselfand have a serious conversation,
is it.
What I have is, is what I'mdelivering, is what I've put together
on my website, on my demovideo, is that the best I can do?
The attitude of it's good enough.
That's an extremely quick wayto become irrelevant in this business.
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Yeah, it's fine.
That'll do.
That's a really quick way tobecome irrelevant because there's
too many speakers and too manyauthors and too many coaches that
are doing this at a high levelin an amazing way, at all different
levels of experience and expertise.
And so if where you're at inyour journey and what you've put
on your site and what you'vecreated is the best that you can
do right now, then wonderful.
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Then you, you go as far as youcan see and when you get there, get
ready to go a little bit further.
But there really is no barrierto entry in this industry.
Anybody, anybody can literallychange their LinkedIn profile and
say, I'm a professional speaker.
And you kind of could be, butto do it at a high level consistently,
where you can do this for aliving, you can, you, you're making
consistent high fees, workingwith top tier organizations and associations
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and, and businesses as thekeynote speaker.
Very, very, very few people do that.
And it requires a specificlevel of excellence.
Always be the top of the top,everything, you know, expensive or
elaborate.
No, because that might not bewhere you're at.
You might be just trying toscrape by to get two keynotes so
you can create a demo video.
Do the best with what you have.
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And quality, quality always wins.
From a, an advice perspective.
Clint, who are some of thebest names that you can recommend
that people go and deep diveon to learn how to become the best
keynote presenters?
And for me, one of them is VinZhang out of Australia.
I'm sure you heard of Vin.
Vin's a great friend.
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Yeah, brilliant.
So, and for you, recommendations.
Yeah, Vin's incredible.
Vin and I are managed by thesame management company and so Vin
and I have known each otherfor, God, almost six, seven years
now.
Vin would be a definite one to watch.
Mark Scherembrock would beanother incredible person to, to
watch.
There's Even Chad Hymas is, is amazing.
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Jason Hewlett, who you and Iboth know is an incredible spe.
Phil Jones is another amazing speaker.
You know, and then you've gotEd Milet and Simon Sinek and some
of the other well knownspeakers that do a great job.
But there's many speakers, Imean, Matt Townsend, you've probably
never heard of him.
The dude's amazing.
Best, one of the best thatI've ever heard of.
But he's very specific in hisniche and what he does.
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But yeah, those would be a fewof my board of mentors, some of my
dear friends and people thathave expedited my success de.
Risked my failure rate in thisbusiness that I owe a lot to.
Yeah, some grind.
Couple of former guests onthere as well.
Chad Imus, one of the mostincredible, you know, paralyzed with
85% of his body and still oneof the most compelling speakers I've
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ever had the privilege oftalking to.
You know, and Clint, like,like a lot of professional speakers
and, and people in your space.
Do you like if for people thatare maybe a bit further along, that
have the resources and the,the baseline, can they hire you to,
to work one on one to, to workon these kind of things?
Yeah, yeah, I've worked, I'veworked one on one with, with speakers
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many times.
Yeah, it's something that Idon't necessarily promote or, or
do a lot of, but with select individuals.
Is there anyone that you'vementored or worked with in the past,
maybe in years gone by that'sblown up and that we might have,
that we might have heard of?
Two great speakers right nowthat are definitely worth following
and two, two gentlemen that I,I love and admire and I'm very proud
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of, Ryan Campbell out ofNashville, Tennessee, and, and Kyle
Shealy, who lives in Wisconsin.
Two up and coming speakersthat I've had the opportunity to
mentor and develop greatrelationship with and they're absolutely
crushing it right now on the circuit.
Man, you give me plenty ofnames to go back over and start doing
so.
It's amazing.
It's amazing being in thespace for as long as I have.
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I've interviewed 220 plusguests, probably about 20 hall of
Fame speakers, and I stilldon't recognize a lot of those names.
You know what's interesting, Plynden.
My wife and I just arrivedback in Australia after being on
the road for two and a half years.
And we, we went to Mexico andback and forth the United States
and, and in the US My accentallows Me to get away with blue murder.
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And.
And since I've been back,we're in the sunshine coast, which
is north of Brisbane.
Here it's a much smallercommunity, and what astounds me is
the sheer number of peoplethat say, you know, they talk to
me for a little bit, they go,laban, you, man.
You got the real gift of the gab.
You know, what's your adviceor your thoughts to those people
about this whole gift of thegab versus a learned skill?
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I think that some people haveinnate talents and gifts and abilities
and may be more naturallyinclined to talk to large groups
of people or love to beextroverted and carrying on conversations.
You know, I would evenconsider myself to be more of an
introvert.
You know, people ask, do youwant to go socialize with the client
before the event?
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And do you want, like, no, no,that's not like my jam.
I.
But the people would neverreally suspect that, right?
As a professional talker, aprofessional speaker, I love.
I love this, this.
This.
This philosophy.
Disney.
One of their principles isnever show the chords.
Never show the chords.
And if you go to Disneyland,you'll never see a cord, like an
electrical outlet, a plug.
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You know, you're watching theride, you're looking at the animatronics,
the magic, and you just don'tsee the chords.
And I love that.
And I think communication issomewhat like that.
Sometimes we're given a littlebit more natural ability or instinct
or talent, whatever you wantto call it.
But over time, I think toreally master it, whether you're
gifted with it or not, or youfeel like you have it or you don't,
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it is a skill that is craftedand reps are required and to the
point where when you get up onstage or even in a com.
In a conversation, they don'tsee the chords.
But it's.
But it's been rehearsed, it'sbeen practiced, it's been thought
through, it's been worked on,it's been reiterated and viewed and
reviewed and maybe feedback'sbeen given.
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And how you hold aconversation or how you listen or
how you have hardconversations can improve.
And I think always, in theworld of communication, what a gift,
right?
What a powerful tool that Ithink always requires constant tweaking
to the point where peopledon't necessarily see the chords.
And it becomes natural, itbecomes authentic, it becomes moving,
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powerful.
I think that's a beautifulpart of communication.
And what I find fascinating aswell, Clint, is like, if you were
to guess how manypresentations have you given in your
life off the top of your head?
Probably over 2,000 at this point.
Yeah.
So you're talking at least2,000 probably hours just in that.
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And that excludes all therehearsals and all the other stuff
you've done in between.
So your 10,000 hours islooking pretty good in terms of mastery
and dropping.
Out the arm for all the hoursthat were not on stage.
You know, Those are just 2,000hours on stage.
It is all the hours ofrehearsal and rehearsal and rewriting.
It's a lot like peoplesometimes it blows them away at what
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some speakers get paid to sayfor one hour.
But when you see the time, theeffort, the energy, everything that's
gone into creating that kindof magic, you know what I'm talking
about?
When you go, when you seesomeone on stage and it's like, that
was unbelievable.
That was a journey.
That was a moment in time thatI will never forget.
That moved me to my core.
Like, that is.
That's 10,000 hours.
You know, that is the unseenstuff behind the curtains of that
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stage that really make it whatit is.
Hey, g'day there.
And pardon the interruption.
It's Laban Ditchburn here,affectionately known as the world's
best courage coach.
And if I'm someone that you'vebeen listening to or watching on
this podcast that you resonatewith in some way and you see me as
being a possible solution tosome of your biggest challenges,
(15:36):
I would love to make availableto you today a complimentary transformational
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And I have limited space available.
If this is something thatresonates with you, go into the Show
Notes or on the YouTube or therumble, find the scheduling link,
book the time on yourcalendar, and let's get this started.
Now back to the show.
And, you know, just from apersonal point of view, Claire, I
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gotta say, you are easily oneof the best technically brilliant
speakers that I've ever seen.
And I've, you know, consumed a lot.
And I was just fascinated toget to jump on this podcast with
today and ask you a few ofthese questions, really selfishly
for myself.
But I know other people willtruly benefit, because it just shocks
me the number of people thatdon't link their gap between the
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work that you need to do andthe link between being a brilliant,
effective communicator andseeing you present makes me sometimes
think, man, I like much morehave I got to go?
Because a lot of the time wespent when we're overseas, we were
in countries like Mexico,India and Colombia for the last five
months.
I Don't speak very good Spanish.
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And so I'm not getting that.
I'm not doing in person keynotes.
A lot of the stuff I was doingis with virtual, which I'm very,
very comfortable doing virtual.
Now that we're back here, I'mputting myself out there to get booked
for in person keynote, whichis what I really love to do.
And I love that energy.
There's no comparison forbeing in person versus virtually,
you know.
Totally.
And Gol.
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I remember.
I'll never forget 2020, March6, 2020, when the whole world changed
and we.
We.
Everything every I had, I.
I lost 30, 30 gigs that week.
And what went from an amazingyear and grit and determination and
all the blood, sweat and tearsto get to that point in my career
to then in a matter of a weekand a half, everything disappeared
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and we, we morphed intovirtual and gal.
It really weeded out a lot ofindividuals in our industry because
it became extremely tough and,and so that's awesome to hear that
you're still doing the virtual presentations.
I'm sitting right now in myvirtual studio that I created in
2020 that's still here.
And it's been interesting tosee the dynamics of.
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Of the industry.
As short time have I that I'vebeen a professional speaker to watch
how much it has changed evento today what what people are booking
and looking for.
I'm curious, Clinton, whatpercentage of those lost bookings
ended up converting to virtualpresentations later on?
Yeah, so they, they actuallythe two events that didn't cancel
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were the saving grace that Icredit so much of my success during
that, that pandemic too.
They canceled their liveevent, but they said we will keep
your original fee if you cando a virtual presentation.
I had never done a virtualpresentation in my life.
I have drums.
I mean that's part of my show.
How do you bring drums onto azoom call?
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How do you make this?
I create an experience througha virtual platform and it forced
me, but it also was a blessingbecause it gave me the budget to
create something that wasrevolutionary, that was unlike anything
else that had been done ordone in a way that nobody else was
doing in that during that time.
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And so because of those twoevents, I went all in where many
speakers were kind of, ah,this will pass.
Let's give it a few months.
I'm.
I'll be all right.
I've got, you know, and I justsaid I'm.
I got to go all in because Iwant to keep this fee.
I want to serve this clientand they're in a hard spot and we
got to make this epic.
And doing that and thencreating the demo video springboarded
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really a specific, specificstandard that that could be achieved.
Not that I'm, I'm saying thatit was anything amazing, but it just
showed clients, it showedbureaus like, oh my gosh.
Like, this is, this is another level.
Like, we had light up drums,we had five different cameras, we
had switchers, we had.
And it just created an experience.
And then that springboardedinto us having a halfway decent year
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during 2020 and then an evenbetter year beyond that in the virtual
space.
Yeah.
And that's awesome.
Clinton One of the, one of theguests on the podcast who then went
on to write a beautifulendorsement of my book was Sean Kanungo,
who I'm guessing you know, orhave heard of, certainly, who was
in the same situation as younever done a virtual and then ended
up being given the, the awardfor, from Forbes magazine, most best
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virtual keynote in the worldfor 2020.
You know, like, talk aboutsaying pretty special stuff.
You can't have been farbehind, I'll tell you that much for
nothing.
Yeah, it's a crazy time.
Crazy time.
Clint, A question that I'vegot for myself again, and folks listening.
Hope you don't mind me beingselfish here.
How do you navigate with your,with your faith and turning work
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away from companies that youdon't align with ethically or energetically
or spiritually?
Yeah, for me, my wife, myfamily and me, I made that decision
a long time ago that there arecertain values, there's certain core
beliefs and things that I'mfully all in on, I guess is a good
way to put it.
And when an organization comesin that's not aligned with that or
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does not promote that or isunethical in that regard, or again,
just a brand that I don'tbelieve in or support or fully want
to align myself with, thenwe've made that decision many times
and you know, it's full Vevent and it's, you know, at the
end of the day, like there'sjust so much more than, than, than
money.
And it's not even a brand or acompany that might not even align
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with what I'm doing.
There's certain things in mylife that I'm not going to miss.
There's something to be saidfor, excuse me, financial affluence
in this business.
And then there's another thingto be said for time affluence.
And thankfully, you know,through a lot of Hard work.
We've reached a point where,you know, the financial side is.
Is sufficient for me and mylife and my family.
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And the rest of it is now howdo I get more time affluent, to where
I have more time, where I canbe home when I want to be home.
And I can not miss theimportant sacred days and the moments
that, you know, as I've gotthree little kids, that there's just
a lot of things I don't wantto miss.
And before COVID I was on the road.
I had 112 events in a year.
That was the highest amount ofevents that I'd ever done, and I'll
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never do that again.
And so now.
Now the number is.
Is 50.
I won't do more than 50 eventsa year.
And we're.
We're approaching that number.
And so then we'll.
We'll roll it into next year.
He's not available this year,but you can roll.
And so it's.
It's being really focused onyour core values again, things that
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truly matter at the end of the day.
And for me, that's my faith inmy family.
So that's awesome, Clint.
I appreciate that a lot.
As we're coming to our aconclusion, are you okay for time
at the moment?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I want to talk aboutthis book, I Love it here, that came
out two and a half years ago.
Just for the folks listening,just a quick overview what the book's
(22:36):
all about and what youintended to achieve when you wrote
it.
Yeah.
So six and a half years ago, Istarted a research project called
the Undercover Millennial Program.
And I'm a millennial.
That's the generation I wasborn in.
So I would go undercover intoorganizations as a young person looking
for a job, and I wouldinterview them, and I would say,
hey, I'm just thinking about applying.
What's it like to work here?
(22:57):
And the employees would tellme everything.
And we worked with hundreds oforganizations, and I, as of this
year, I've interviewed over11,000 employees undercover.
And we created a book called ILove it Here.
And that's why I titled itthat, because that was the magic
of all of the research, iswhen I would go undercover and I'd
say to an employee, you know,I'm secure.
What's it like to work here?
(23:17):
And when they would say, Ilove it here, I love.
I love my job.
Why?
What were those leaders doing?
What were the managers doing?
What were the bosses doing tocreate that kind of a response in
an employee?
And then the next employee andthe next.
And they created a culturewhere people didn't just survive
at work, but they actually thrived.
And it took me four years towrite the book.
(23:37):
I'll never, I'll never writeanother book again.
I've said that for many years,and I still stand by that.
It was one of the farthestthings I have ever done in my life,
but I'm so proud of it.
It's, it's probably some ofmy, my best work in my professional
life, and I'm really proud of it.
But it took a lot.
It took a lot to writesomething that was different, unique,
(24:01):
captivating.
You're taking all of thisresearch and you're combining it
into something that, thatmoves the needle, right?
It's not just some, you know,this is like, I think there's, like,
somebody told me there's like,15 leadership books published every,
like, six hours or something.
Like, I don't know.
There's just a lot, There's alot in this space.
And I wanted to createsomething that wasn't just a calling
(24:21):
card, that wasn't just a book,because you need a book in this industry,
but something that was truly amanagement classic, something that
five years from now, it wouldstill be selling, it would still
be relevant.
And, you know, we're two and ahalf years out, and the book's still
performing very well, and it'sstill influencing a lot of people.
And still to this day, mycareer and my keynote is founded
(24:43):
upon that.
So it took a lot of work.
I'll never do it again, butI'm really glad that I did.
Never say never, Clint, is mywhat I've learned.
And, because, and, and it is abrilliant book.
And there's someone who,because people like Shep Hyken and,
and Scott McCain have beenformer guests as well.
I've developed a real intriguein customer experience, and I find
(25:05):
myself going out of my way toring organizations to let them know
how they can improve stuff.
And sometimes it's really wellreceived, and sometimes it's, you
know, because I, I, I become abig brand ambassador for brands and,
and products that I reallylove and utilize, and I want them
to succeed.
And when I can see thembringing detrimental things to themselves,
(25:26):
it's like, let me help you.
Let me help you.
And so who knows, maybethere's a pathway later on for Laban
to, to talk about these kindof things as well.
I've got some great stories in there.
But, Clint, I'm very, veryappreciative and respectful of your
Time.
And I've grosslyunderestimated just how much time
we needed today because youhave such an incredibly broad and
(25:47):
diverse background andinterest and we haven't really even
touched on the helicopterstaff and we had an opportunity to
share many of these stories.
So maybe there's anopportunity for you to come on the
show another time in the future.
My encouragement would be Iwould love to read a book about you,
like a memoir style book.
And I know never say never,but you know, mine has transformed
(26:09):
my life.
It did a lot of healing andit's helped a lot of people through
the raw vulnerability that Iwas able to display there.
And just that's myencouragement from one professional
to another.
Do with that when you will.
But how do people get a holdof you?
Yeah, all the, all the, allthe usual places your website is,
clipholder.com Instagram,LinkedIn, all the social media platforms.
(26:34):
Yeah.
Reach out anytime.
Anything I can do to help andsupport people, I'm in.
Brilliant.
Hey Clint, do you have anyconcluding thoughts for our amazing
audience today?
I guess the one thing that Iwould maybe just leave is something
that I look back on and we'vetalked a lot about just my career
and the speaking industry isthere's a difference in being successful
(26:55):
in your life and truly beingsignificant in your life.
And at the end of a life, Idon't care what any of us do, none
of us are getting out of life alive.
And at the end of that life, Ithink everybody will be surrounded
by two things.
You'll be surrounded by thewoulda, shoulda, coulda's, or you'll
be surrounded by the do it,did it, done it's and to do things
in your life that have a levelof significance, not just success.
(27:18):
I believe is a life well lived.
And my mantra and somethingthat I believe in and strive to create
my brand around is that it'snot about being the best in the world,
it's about being the best forthe world.
And that's what I cherish themost about my job, is that every
day and when I'm on stage, offstage, everything that we're striving
to do is to be the best forthe world, to be the best for that
(27:39):
organization, to be the bestfor my friends, to be the best for
my family.
Can we create an organizationthat because of maybe something that
I said or maybe something thatI did, that a manager might implement
to the point that their teamgoes home better moms and they go
home better dads because workis a fulfilling experience.
It's a significant experience.
(27:59):
And then because of that, wemight create better families.
You know, what an ideal, whata thing for me that's achieved a
level of passion, purpose, andthe ability to provide.
And it's something I'mgrateful for.
So something to think about.
How am I striving to not justbe the best in the world at what
I do, but how can I be thebest for the world at what I do?
(28:20):
And that's something I thinkeverybody at one point will remember
you for.
Thank you for.
And again will mark a lifewell lived.
Ladies and gentlemen, Clint Pola.
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