The END of UniFi and Mystery Beers?

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(00:30):
Hey Chris, how you doing?
Good, how you doing, John?
I'm doing great. Hope everybody else is doing good.
Yeah.
We are back at it.
Yes, we are.
Everything's feeling like it's in a groove.
We're moving here.
I gotta tell you, thanks for
putting out that
mid-show

(00:52):
show.
Mid-break show.
I learned a few things, and I know
now if I was going to do it over, there's
a few things that I would change.
Mainly, I probably wouldn't do as many microphones.
Okay, no, I
get that for sure. And it was a little bit
like, there were definitely a couple of them that I was like
that's not really
distinguishable.

(01:14):
I felt like on the
the mic
hero, the high
pass, I didn't
it was very, very subtle, but I could hear
it. The EQ was way
more noticeable on my voice.
And then when I went into
the Pod Mobile,
I could hear more of
the difference I felt like

(01:36):
to my ears than what I was hearing
necessarily from the mic hero.
Interesting.
And that may be the difference in the mic
hero, which is the first product,
and the Pod Mobile is using the DSP chip.
So they're two completely
different animals. They are very different
animals. And I
don't know that I would have predicted that direction,
but that's... Now there were some

(01:58):
subtle, I
would say, on the Pod Mobile
listening, especially between
was jumping between the
320
and the 27. They're
already so close, in my
opinion, where the 20, I
could hear a difference between the 20 and the 320
versus the 27.
Because the 27 and the 320

(02:20):
are very bright
in nature, where the 20 is not quite
as bright. So I could definitely tell
the difference in those.
I could obviously hear a difference when I was on
the SM7B.
And then the
LUITs, I could
maybe hear a little bit of difference.
There's maybe a little bit more
clarity out of the 440.

(02:42):
But I think that has to do with the fact that
the 440 is a large diaphragm,
where the 240 is not a large
diaphragm.
So I think that was the main difference that I was
probably catching between those two mics.
Between the condenser mics?
Yes, the two condenser mics.
I think that that's a...
But it was good

(03:04):
to hear that it could handle all of
these different microphones.
Again, Fernando, great
job.
Hey, we got a surprise today.
We do. It's even a surprise for us.
Yes, it is.
Which is not very normal.
We have Mystery Beer.
Mystery Beer. From a friend of the show.

(03:26):
From the friend of the show.
Also known as Jason Court.
Jason Court.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
There's a lot of noises happening over there right now.
This comes all the way from Michigan.
It's stapled. I have no idea what's in the
back. Okay. If it's a cat,
I'm going to be very upset. I know what I
hope it is. Well, yeah.

(03:48):
But I don't know what it is.
So, we're going to find out.
It's stapled. It is stapled.
Wow. It's stapled.
It's stapled. It's stapled.
There we go.
Jason, we're not peeking. You don't have to
like put
locks on the thing.
What are you showing?
You're peeking. Hey.

(04:10):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I am peeking.
Don't do this to me.
Are you ready? Yeah.
There are actually, it looks like
two different beers in here. Two different beers.
Oh, Dragon's
Milk Reserve
Oatmeal Cookie.
Okay. Okay. Okay. So there's two
of those. We're going to find out. And then we've got
cans. Cans down

(04:32):
where I can't see.
And this is Old
Native Solace. Or Old Nation.
Old Nation Brewing Solace.
Black Lager with natural
flavors.
What natural flavors?
We're about to find out.
I guess so. Okay.
So I got to tell you, I kind of
want to start with the can. But

(04:54):
do you want to start with the
oatmeal cookie? We can certainly start with the can.
Do you want
to do, like you start with the
oatmeal cookie and I start with
the can? And then we switch? And then we switch?
That's fair. We can do that.
The Dragon's
Milk is 11%.
It's high gravity?
What's the? 5%.

(05:16):
5%. Okay.
So that averages out. Just saying.
What we got
here are 2, 8%.
Oh, sorry. I just
armpitted that microphone.
I need an editor. I think I like
that math. It does average out
to about 8%.

(05:38):
Right?
That's good math. Oh my gosh.
Did you bring your?
I...
Oh, no I don't.
Let me see.
This is the moment in the show
where we realize we didn't prepare for the show.
Every
part of this show is...
What

(06:00):
are we doing today?
Oh, my wife got me this
cool key thing that's
like...
It's not sharp, but it's
like it comes to a point
and I have to be able to
open boxes and
I kind of was
hoping that it had a...
And I didn't bring my usual

(06:22):
key so I don't have
my backup opener.
We're gonna...
Lots of dead noise. Yeah. We're gonna start
with the can
and while you're talking for a little bit, I'm
gonna go get a
bottle opener. Okay. Yeah. I can do the usual
read the blurb and

(06:44):
all that kind of stuff
and we'll
go from there.
Okay.
So we're gonna start with
Old Nation
Brewing Company.
I'm assuming that's pronounced Solace.
Black Lager with natural
flavors. Oh, for sure it's Solace.
5% alcohol

(07:06):
by volume. Low on the IBU. It's only
a 20.
Oh, that sounded good.
That just got on my computer.
You have been baptized.
Yes.
All right. It's only a little bit of beer.
It's only a little. It's only a little.
Have any of y'all in the
IT world gotten that?
It was just a little bit of coffee.

(07:28):
It was only a little
bit of Gatorade. Yes. Yes.
Luckily, I am actually just on this
metal housing. That's good.
Okay. So Solace
Black Lager is surprisingly delicate
and easy to drink.
Even though at first it appears
dark and heavy, its palette
has a hint of roasted malt
while the aroma carries a smooth blend

(07:50):
of natural mandarin zest,
dark spices,
and the cozy sweetness
of, oh boy,
speculus.
How do you pronounce that?
S-P-E-C-U-L-O-O-S.
Speculous.
I'm going to roll with it.
Speculous cookie flavors.
That must be a Michigan thing.

(08:12):
I guess so. It's the perfect
fireside companion for a chilly
fall night with familiar spices
lingering in every sip.
Is this going to taste like pumpkin?
I don't know.
Anytime somebody says fall spices,
thank you,
Starbucks, for giving us
pumpkin everything.
Yes, but it is Michigan made

(08:34):
and it is locally owned.
Alright.
So, independent craft.
Watch your computer.
Oh yeah.
Alright, cheers.
Cheers.
Oh.

(08:56):
Something hit me
and then it went really quick.
Yeah, what is that? It's like mint.
Right?
What is that?
Oh, what did they do to me?
These natural
flavors.
Oh.
It's given me
flashbacks of

(09:18):
Russian Imperial Stout almost.
Okay, so I think it's some mandarin
zest or whatever.
I'm not getting dark out of this.
Maybe that cookie is what I'm tasting.
Whatever that cookie is called.
But it's like, it's something that's
almost like a
like a
it's like
cool. You know what I'm talking about?

(09:40):
It kind of makes my tongue feel cold.
It's mint-ally.
Oh, thank you for that.
Yes.
But there's something in the flavor
though that it's given me like
I can tell you, it's not
the, it didn't have the bitter
of the Russian Imperial Stout.
No. But it's got that
it's something in that flavor

(10:02):
that twang.
And it's like on the side of the tongue.
Side of the tongue. Yes. That's where I'm feeling
cold. But then it just kind of like
dissipates.
So.
So I just like on the, okay.
On the beginning of that I got the
orange zest. Yeah.
Which again is
throwing me because it's like orange

(10:24):
zest and then mint.
Guys.
Jason, I'm not sure I can recommend this.
Yeah.
I'm going to finish it because I mean
if I could make it through Old Rasputin
I can make it through this. Yeah, you can.
Yeah, this is
I don't think I can recommend. No.

(10:46):
It's okay. If you're
one of these, if you are
like I, so there's a
picture of fire on the outside of this.
Yes there is. It talks a lot about like
fall and malt and warm
and things like that. And I was
just not expecting
the flavor that this
has in it, especially for a dark
beer. It's, you just

(11:08):
you don't expect it to be
You can smell
the mandarin
when you smell it, or orange when you smell it
out of the can. Yes, you definitely can.
It hits and then there's
something very minty.
Unless that's, maybe that's the spice
that they talk about. Yeah, but they said dark spices.
This is not dark. Like there's
nothing, sorry, the beer is

(11:30):
very dark. The
color of the beer
is very dark. I just, I don't
want you to be thinking, like
we're about to drink one that's called Oatmeal
Cookie. I don't think
like this is not
in the
oatmeal cookie
No, cause it does
What cookie did it say?

(11:52):
Well maybe that's what we're getting.
Maybe it is whatever this
speculoos, speculoos cookie.
Maybe it's this cozy sweetness. It's
gotta be the speculoos cookie.
We gotta, the speculoos
spectacle cookie.
Speculoos
Now we're on a hunt.
We gotta find out what it is.
It's a type of spice

(12:14):
short, short crust
biscuit. Okay.
Short crust biscuit.
It's very sweet. Some of the pictures I'm seeing
are very gingerbread-y.
I mean that's gotta be what that is.
But it's like, it is
a lot of it. I'm just
I'm telling you right now.
If you like these speculoos
cookies

(12:36):
does it have somebody reading
like what, how you actually pronounce this name?
No.
Let's see if I can find it. Google pronounce?
Yeah, it can be dangerous.
But like
it's a lot of that.
First it appears dark and heavy. I'm not
getting heavy. Are you getting heavy at
like, sorry.

(12:58):
Speculoos
Speculoos
Okay, whatever. There's two o's.
You can't say o's.
Thank you.
Speculoos. Sorry, you were
saying something there? I'm saying it's not
it says even though at first
it appears dark and heavy
they must mean that by looking at the
color of the beer because there

(13:20):
is nothing dark and heavy about this.
I'm not getting dark or heavy.
What I will say
that this beer has successfully done
is it's made us talk more about
the beer that we're drinking.
That's one of the areas where I feel like we've
needed to really kind of
extrapolate a little bit more and this beer has
achieved that. Sure, but mostly I'm
interested in drinking beer, not talking about

(13:42):
what the heck was that?
Correct, correct. But I mean, most of the
time we take a drink like that's great.
Alright, what are we talking about tonight?
That's great. I'm going to drink this
now. Yes, I'm going to drink.
What are you going to tell people? Yeah, why don't you talk while
I drink this? No, absolutely.
It is definitely, it's the perfect
fireside companion for a chilly fall night.
I'm not going to

(14:04):
agree with that just because
Maybe you just have to grow
up eating those cookies to appreciate this beer.
There's got to be something
about this beer for people
that like it that's a little bit nostalgic.
I guess so. Jason,
did you eat these cookies?
There's a
high probability or
I got to know what he likes

(14:26):
about this. Or he set us up.
Or he set us up.
This is going to blow their minds.
I can't wait to hear this show. They're not going to
know what this is. They thought the Russian
Imperial Stout was bad.
It's not, it's not bad.
No, it's not that bad. It's not, it's not
bad. It's just like it,
you don't expect it.
And then all of a sudden you've got a

(14:48):
mint ball in your mouth.
I was going to say,
based off of previous episodes,
this would be like a good beer
number three. Beer number three.
When you're into beer number three,
taste kind of starts to go out the window.
Okay, speaking of third beer,
I'm going to open my

(15:10):
second beer. And then
Old Nation can be my
third beer.
There you go.
Okay, this is the
Dragon's Milk
Reserve Oatmeal
Cookie.
Got it.
Found a key.

(15:32):
Okay.
Stout with cinnamon.
Oh, okay.
Brown sugar, raisins,
oats and vanilla extract.
This, this, this could go
sideways on us. Yeah.
It's a treasure trove for the
adventurous spirit.
Jason, we're not adventurous.

(15:56):
Alright, we're adventurous today.
Each entry in the Reserve
series is crafted to
push the boundaries
of our signature stout. An epic
journey awaits.
I feel a little bit weird about them messing
with perfection though.
The adventure begins with a
slumber in the...
Oh my gosh. Oh boy.

(16:18):
There you go. With a slumber in the select
bourbon barrels, imparting notes
of vanilla and oak to this brew.
Real oats,
raisins, cinnamon, brown sugar
and pure vanilla extract are
added. Okay.
To create a creamy experience.
Reminiscent of a
freshly baked cookie
that completes the quest.

(16:40):
Raise a glass to victory. Okay,
guys, like I gotta tell you, like you...
I'm seeing the connection here.
I do see the connection here. I see...
They both rave about cookies.
I just, I'm nervous.
Because Dragon's Milk is so
good. It is.
Okay, here we go.
You ready?

(17:02):
Oh, you're... I'm gonna power through.
You're gonna power through Solace. Well, I'm gonna drink this
one and then I'm gonna go back to that one.
Okay. Okay.
It's gonna happen. Here we go. Here we go, folks.
Uh...
Oh!
I can see the faces.

(17:24):
He's not certain yet.
Yeah, I'm not certain.
It's a little syrupy.
Ooh. You know?
Like, I think that them putting other things in there...
I mean, you can taste all the things.
Like, individually, I feel like I can taste all the things.
I'm having a little bit of trouble.
Because the raisin is mixing a little bit with the...

(17:48):
Is it brown sugar or is it just cinnamon?
Well, the raisin is definitely the...
Yeah, brown sugar. So the raisin and the brown sugar
are kind of mixing and mixing.
And maybe that vanilla is just getting hidden in there.
But like, all of them together are just making it feel really thick.

(18:10):
Almost like...
Yep.
Not in a great way, in like the medicine-y way.
Oh, that's not good.
But it's definitely...
Like, it's a very different thing than what you're drinking right now.
Yeah, so to me, the raisin is the piece where I kind of scratch my head.
Well, I mean, they had to for the...

(18:32):
Of all those combinations.
Oatmeal cookie, I feel like.
It's the... I don't know, somebody trying to...
Oh, what you need is an acidic taste in there.
With all these sugars.
You said acidic, but I heard hasicic.
Nope, that's not what I meant.
You made me think of the Jewish people.

(18:54):
No?
There you go.
Yeah, it's just... It's different for sure.
It's more what I expected this one to be like.
When it was talking about fall, I guess.
But it is... Like, it's a very...
It's a syrupy thing.

(19:16):
Like, the sweetness is kind of...
Is kind of...
It almost feels like manufactured sweet.
You know? Not like...
Okay.
Well, at least I know what I'm getting into.
Yeah, you sure don't.
Until you taste it.
Okay.

(19:38):
Okay.
It says hereby dragons at the top of it.
Sorry, I had my ringer on.
Okay.
Before I go just full bore into this 11% beer,
why don't you tell us what we're talking about?
Well, real quick, I'd like to do a recap of the last two shows.

(20:04):
Okay.
Yeah, let's do it.
Anybody out there listening, I really would love for you to push those two shows.
Yeah.
Get them out there.
Share, share, share.
And yeah, there's obviously a benefit to us,
but more importantly, I want to see a benefit to Fernando.
Yeah.
Just because he was very frank and open and honest with me

(20:27):
with what he's going to have to do in order to continue to grow in this new year.
And so, if you're feeling generous, go buy all three.
Yeah.
Otherwise, just pick up at least one.
Help the man out.
You got some money from Christmas?

(20:48):
Yes.
Go ahead.
Go right ahead.
Keep an eye out for the B-Stock on the...
B&S?
Oh, my brain just shut down.
Mike Hero DSP.
Yeah, you're right.
BSW.
BSW.
So, yeah.
I was going B&H there for a second.

(21:09):
I could see that.
Sorry.
Overall, I enjoyed the last show.
Yeah.
Doing a product demo.
A lot of things I would change.
A lot I learned.
Well, we enjoyed it.
We'll have more in the future.
I had fun doing it.
As your listeners, we enjoyed it.
Well, and I think the other thing that was a takeaway from me
that I probably should have done differently

(21:31):
is when I was doing each individual mic,
I should have just done one continual take instead of,
okay, I've done it on this pause.
Okay, now I've done it on this.
So I tried as best I could to try to merge that together
to not hear those edits and cuts.
Right.
But they're there.
I mean, yeah.
So, I think so.

(21:52):
But all that to say, love the product, highly recommend it.
If anybody's even remotely thinking
that they want to start tinkering around,
this is where to go.
This is where to start.
Or if you just want to be more mobile than you are.
Correct.
Yeah.
So if you develop a mobile rig, here you go.
Again, I would say spend the extra $89, get the Mike Hero DSP,

(22:15):
and you've got a killer setup.
So.
I really, I mean, I really am impressed with how they sound
and the flexibility inside of them.
I think part of it in you doing that many different microphones,
the benefit is seeing how many different microphones
it can sound good with.

(22:37):
Correct.
And styles and.
And it pushed all those mics without any assistance.
I didn't have to put Cloudlifter, anything like that,
especially even on the SM7B.
Which is notoriously.
Which is getting hungry.
Yeah.
And it just, it worked.
It didn't introduce a bunch of hissing noise
because the preamps are solid.
So solid product, buy as many as you can.

(23:02):
Hand them out for birthdays.
Give them Christmas gifts.
Father's day gifts.
Find that podcaster in your life.
Give them the gift of mobility.
There you go.
I don't know.
I'm just trying to.
I see where you're going.
Okay.
All right.
So tonight is just kind of going to be bouncing around,

(23:24):
hopefully wrapping up Unify.
So I don't necessarily have as detailed a notes.
So I think you'll just have to kind of bear with us as we go through this.
I would like to hit a little bit on protect, a little bit on access.
And then maybe we can hit a couple of the other little oddities that they make.

(23:45):
But then I know you have something that you want to discuss tonight as well.
So definitely want to get that in.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, if we get to it, then that'd be great.
Okay.
So let's pick up with Unify protect.
I think we're using it here at the church.
I also use it at home.
So you've got technically four different options to use this.

(24:12):
You still have the option of the CloudKey Plus, which can hold a single.
Sorry.
When you're saying options to use this, you're talking about what is necessary
hardware wise from Ubiquiti in order to be able to use it.
Yeah.

(24:33):
In order to really leverage.
Yeah.
Protect just as it is.
Protect is, and let's just go back to the beginning of this really, because these are
different apps.
Yes, within the ecosystem.
I mean, can you call them apps?
I feel like they're different subdivisions of Ubiquiti's offerings.

(24:55):
I would still call them apps.
They're apps that basically run on top of the Unify OS.
Yeah.
But I still want to maintain that when you are looking at them, you can do it through
one pane of glass.
Yes.
Yes.
Anyway.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So kind of the entry is the CloudKey Plus.
CloudKey Plus can do way more than Protect.

(25:17):
You can do the full suite of apps that they offer, but the price point might hit right
for somebody at $249.
You can put a hard drive in it.
You can, I believe it was up to 15 cameras on that particular one.
So that would be more than enough for home and in most businesses.

(25:38):
And you can, again, you can just set up Protect, run the mobile app on your phone.
You can hit everything in the web browser if you want.
And you're off and running.
And that kind of that next level would be the UDMs that we talked about.
Yes.
That has, again, the full suite of applications, one or two hard drive based, depending upon

(26:01):
which model of the UDM now you purchase.
That's a kind of higher hit on entry.
But again, if you're doing it at home and you're trying to bring in the full suite of applications
or if it's a business and you're bringing in the full suite of applications, those are
kind of the two paths in that you're going to want to go.
If all you want is just Protect only, you just want essentially video.

(26:29):
You're not worried about any of the other pieces.
There's kind of two levels left that you can get your way in to Protect.
There are the regular video recorders.
They refer to them as NVR.
You've got the NVR and the NVR Pro.
The NVR is a 1U, four drives.
The NVR Pro is 2U with seven drives.

(26:56):
So that really comes down to how many cameras do you think you are going to potentially
use?
How much recording do you want to use?
These are SATA drives?
Yes, they are.
Are they hot swappable?
Yes, they are.
Nice.
So on the NVR, you can do 18 4K cameras or 60 full HD.

(27:26):
On the NVR Pro, you can do 24 4K or you can do 70 full HD.
So there's a lot of capability baked into these.
So let me double check.
I was thinking it ran one other application.
Does it do access?

(27:50):
I was thinking access was a part of it.
That would make sense.
Now, access is like, I mean, Protect kind of makes sense.
You're protecting what you own with cameras.
You're protecting what you own with this system.
Access is letting people in.

(28:14):
So I mean, think of door locks and you can see why you may put cameras and door locks
right next to each other.
Yeah, and that's what it is.
It is access.
And then so kind of that last level that they've introduced, which is reasonably new to me,
is the NVR Enterprise.
You're talking a $2,000 expenditure before you had hard drives.

(28:39):
This is three years.
So a little bit more rack space, but you can do up to 16 hard drives.
This also introduces fiber SFP, depending on what you would you need for connectivity.
And then you're going to again have protecting and access.

(29:00):
That's a part of it.
You can do 70 4K cameras or you can do 210 full HD.
I mean, there are people who need this.
Correct.
I am not one of them.
No, no, no, no.
But God bless you.
And then they have a whole host of cameras that you can consider.

(29:24):
They've got bullet style.
They've got dome style.
They've got what I would almost call turret style.
They have a couple of variations on the turret style.
Yes.
Yeah.
I had to be careful on how I said that.
You've got a couple of PTZ.
They've got their Theta series, which is really designed around trying to make it as hidden

(29:47):
as possible and basically like in a ceiling tile.
Yeah, I've seen those.
It's pretty hidden.
It is.
It is.
And then you've got their AI series.
They have basically the gin foreign up.
They offer what they call AI detection.

(30:08):
That means it can detect the person.
It can detect the car and can detect an animal.
And that's what they call AI detection.
But then you step up into the specific AI series, whether that's the dome, the 360,
whatever you're the PTZ, whatever you're choosing.
They're getting into the way that it can actually not just tell that that's a car, but I'm actually

(30:32):
now going to read that license plate.
So depending upon on what you need, you can take your pick.
I mean, you can get a camera for as low as $99, which is USB-C and it just leverages
Wi-Fi all the way up to the big $1,800 PTZ and they have a whole ton in between.

(30:59):
And then the couple of other things that I wanted to hit that's a part of this is their
doorbell falls into the protect lineup.
So it goes up against ring doorbell, ecobee doorbell.
I mean, kind of you name it.
Sure. But I mean, it's connected to an entire world of possibility where, you know, you

(31:24):
have to create that for yourself and these others.
Correct. They have a floodlight.
So that's kind of different.
The other thing that's intriguing, but I think this would kind of because it this would tie
in well if you're using the access part is they have what they call their all in one
sensor.
And so that can tell you if a door is open, is a window open.

(31:47):
It can give you temperature and humidity.
It has ambient light sensing.
It can also sense an alarm if an alarm is going off.
So a lot of capability baked into this, this little sensor that ties directly into protect.
And then the one other thing that is intriguing, if you wanted to give somebody visibility

(32:12):
in, they have the protective viewport.
You plug that into your network and gives HDMI out on the other end.
And now you can run the video output of protect onto a monitor.
Yeah, that I feel like they've needed that for a while because it does get a little bit
annoying to have to have a like a separate device hooked up to this like for other things.

(32:41):
I mean, you know, like we've we just we just had for the one that I was looking at because
we only really are using one camera on our protect, but it was just running on an iPad.
Now, what is cool is that if you set up your phones right and you have one of the nice
phones, you can see the camera from the phone.
That is nice.

(33:02):
I mean, again, that's one of those like, hey, all these things are connected.
So, you know, and through the viewport, you can view up to 16 different camera feeds.
So there's some some really interesting capabilities at a time, at a time.
Yes, at a time.
So more than that, you can't tell what's going on.
I can tell you from I mean, unless you just have a what a 70 inch TV that you're looking

(33:27):
at, which don't we all wish everybody has those laying around.
I mean, now, holy cow.
So I was at Best Buy the other day looking at one of those curved glass ones that feels
like it goes on for eternal for the gaming.
I mean, they're like they're enormous now.
Yes.
And also really expensive still.

(33:48):
Yes.
Those gamers, man.
Yeah. So the only thing that I haven't seen with them yet, I know they're still at least
supporting the Gen three, even though they're up to Gen five.
I have a Gen three at home.
I haven't seen anything on what the expected life's expected, I guess, expected life expectancy,
whatever that the life expectancy of the product.

(34:12):
There you go.
So is Gen three going to die off when they released in six?
Is it going to hang around?
I would like to think that because their cameras and there's not a whole lot going on here
that the camera is literally going to run for you until it dies.
I don't need to make a movie with this thing.
I need to be able to see what is going on.
Yes.
It's either going to be it's died or for whatever reason you want higher resolution out of it.

(34:38):
Because I need to see not only what the license plate is, but what kind of bug he hit last.
For me, it's I want to see who that is and whose dog is that that's doing that in my yard.
That's the joy of being on the corner.
I can read his name tag.

(34:59):
Yes, that and I want to know who thinks that my yard is their trash can.
You're an old man.
Well, again, I think it's I think it's the things that people don't tell you about when you live on the corner.
That you get the random beer cans, you get the random wrappers.
It is always funny to me that the things that blow into my yard that I'm like,

(35:24):
that's not my trash.
Yes.
I didn't.
Yes.
I don't smoke those.
I think you got to walk your dog, but just be nice enough to pick it up when he's done.
My dog just goes in the middle of the street.
OK, he's got no qualms about anything here in the street.

(35:45):
You can this kid is the worst.
The streets better than somebody else's yard.
I'm just saying like he really is.
I will never own a small dog again.
I made an exception.
It was a bad idea.
You all have to be here for this.

(36:07):
But Chris just keeps drinking the Old Nation and then his head shakes.
I'm going. I'm not giving up.
I'm not giving up. I'm a trooper.
I'll push through.
So that's just kind of a real quick overprotect.
There's so much here that I just I didn't want to sit here and literally go camera by camera by camera by camera.

(36:28):
No, but there's there's a tremendous product line here.
Again, we use it at the church. I use it at home.
I love it.
I would if I could, I would probably add five more at my home to give my wife the additional visibility that she would love to have.
And the safe room in the safe room.
There you go.
And again, the mayor may not exist.

(36:50):
You got guys.
We're looking at you.
Yeah, you can get the Gen five bullet.
I have the Gen three.
When I bought my Gen three, it was 200 bucks.
The Gen five.
You can get it now for one hundred and twenty nine dollars.
And you're getting a higher resolution, better optics, better nighttime visibility.

(37:13):
That I'm getting out of mine.
If I want to improve the night and visibility of mine, I'm going to buy that add on our disk.
Oh, yeah.
And I just I just don't want to get into that.
So that's annoying.
That is the protect line.
So then we'll shift gears to access this.
We've seen we've talked about it.

(37:34):
We haven't actually used it.
Yeah, access is I wish when we had when we were when we were doing our expansion with our door locks and at the church, I wish that access had been further along.
If it was then where it is now, then I really would have pushed hard to make sure we were moving in this direction.

(37:58):
Because once again, we have a system that now has the capability of being able to use this product seamlessly.
And instead, we've got to go through another solution.
It's annoying.
But once you started down one of these passes, hard to change.
It will dominate your destiny.

(38:20):
Thank you.
Yes.
So just real quick, looking at this page, what stands out to me that's new is there on a can full of the readers.
They're now saying Apple Wallet support.
See, that didn't used to be an option.
So how cool would that be for those who don't necessarily know what that means.

(38:42):
Your phone literally becomes your father.
It's amazing.
I love that.
I don't have to carry anything else on my key chain.
I just go.
I hate you.
So these you can either introduce brand new.

(39:03):
You've never had this before.
You can get the kids.
You can get all the magnets, the strikes, the whole the whole nine.
Or if you have an existing system and you're wanting to now introduce this, you can put these controllers in.
And it will leverage your existing equipment at your doors.
So the only other thing that you would have to replace would be the fob reader because you've got to have one of theirs.

(39:30):
But your magnets are going to stay the same.
You're pushed to open.
It's going to be able to pick that up.
If you've got the strike latch, I guess is what they call that.
You can leverage leverage that because those things are all the same.
They get a signal to do open or close, lock, unlock.

(39:53):
So it's great that you can leverage a lot of your existing infrastructure and then just add this on top of it.
I got to think through that.
That doesn't sound as painful as what I thought it was going to be.
Correct.
I know when we had looked at it in the beginning, you couldn't you couldn't necessarily buy the magnetic locks, the electric locks, those pieces from them.

(40:21):
But now you can.
Yeah.
And I'm realizing that while it means that you can use your watch to.
Yeah, that would make sense.
Suck.
So the one thing that would get interesting with this, if you were going this route and you're trying to protect against power outage, the couple shows back, we talked about the mission critical switch that has the UPS baked into it.

(40:53):
This could be a great solution because your control hubs aren't necessarily going to be in a server room.
They're going to be in some mechanical closet somewhere.
Yeah, now you can introduce that to give you battery backup for this system.
Now if you have the luxury that it also happens to be in your server room, and you can use your existing UPS. Yeah, but not everybody's going to have that.

(41:19):
No.
And there. Even if you do have that it may not be handy for it to be in every location that you would want to put one of these.
Correct.
Because that's just not.
We've, I mean, we've got a lot of doors here that unlock this way.
Yep.
We have our churches a little bit different in that it's not just, you know, the normal external doors on a building, but it's like we've got a campus so it's got a whole bunch of different buildings so every door, basically on the outside of these buildings has these fobs on them.

(41:57):
Yep, fob readers, so it just, it comes with its own set of problems. Yep. So looking at the readers, the readers are, it's not bad. I mean you can get a reader on the outside for as cheap as $99.
And then they also have the intercom that makes into this. So you could have have that on the outside. The person sitting at the front desk could then communicate, there's a camera built in you can see who it is. And then you could potentially buzz them in.

(42:29):
Yeah, that intercom looks pretty fancy. It does. And then it's got that wall situation, which would be more of like being at home.
Can you imagine seeing the camera pop up whenever somebody comes.
Wow, no, that's a different thing.
Wow, okay.

(42:52):
There's a lot there. There is. And then when you look at the, the hubs as they're referring to them.
There is just the simple, simple hub that can just do a single door, which is how most of this is going to go or they do have the, the enterprise access hub.
And again, that depends on how many doors come back to a single location, but you can have multiple, multiple doors controlled by that access hub.

(43:20):
So you're doing the standard door hub, $199. But again, you could reuse the vast majority of all your existing equipment on that door.
You'd put that door hub in, you put your reader on the outside. This all gets adopted into your UDM or cloud key or whatever you're using.
And you're off and running.

(43:41):
Golly, this intercom viewer door unlock it or intercom viewers that that's a thing.
Okay.
So, and then you can do standard access card.
You can get the little, the little round fog little key chain fobs. Yep.

(44:03):
Pocket fobs, whatever you want to call those. Yeah, they call them pocket key fobs.
Yep. And then again, now you can, again, with specific readers.
So that's going to be the G3 Pro, the reader flex and the G3.
Those specifically, you can leverage Apple Wallet as your fob.

(44:27):
And because it can, again, I keep running into different things that Apple Wallet will allow you to do. You can give somebody a key for a period of time just by texting them or messaging them, I guess, the pass.
So you're sharing it out of your wallet to them?
No, it's not yours. Like you would have to, it would have to be an admin in the system, I think from what it looks like. It would have to be an admin in the system.

(44:57):
But the admin could like say, hey, you can, you coming to the church today?
Okay, well, just I'm going to send this to your phone. Okay.
And put it in your wallet and you pull it up in your wallet. It's just a unified card for that. But you know, once they're done, then it's, it's almost like a ticket into the building.

(45:19):
This key fob will self-destruct.
Man, they just, their video for this also has it as like, it's like it's biometric, like the little thing that they're talking about with this. This lady's like leaning forward with her face and it's pretending like it's reading her face.

(45:42):
So I don't know which one of these.
That's probably the reader pro because it looks like it's got a camera.
I'm just saying if they're actually doing facial recognition facial recognition.
Not sure I feel about that one.
Chris, you know, they have your photo and license plate or license, right?

(46:04):
I'm an American, let me gripe.
My security users will receive 10 free touch passes in the first year to get started.
Additional passes are $5 per user per year.
Yeah, on the G3 reader it specifically says unlock using the NFC card pen, unify identity mobile app, face unlock and touch pass.

(46:33):
Does it make you stand in front of it and turn your head in a circle?
I want to know what happens when I put the eyeball on my forehead.
I bet it doesn't know who I am anymore.
Wait a minute. That's not you.
If it can't recognize me with a mask on, it can't recognize me.
Well, I have to say, since COVID, they've really done some improvements on facial detection when you're trying to get around it.

(47:01):
So I wouldn't be surprised if they've if the old extra third eye on the forehead no longer works anymore.
It's worth knowing though, Dr. Strange would be in trouble.
Are you done with it?
It's done.
Okay. Well, now I get to know what you think about the other one because I cannot recommend.

(47:24):
Here it comes.
It's just mint like it is.
It is the the orange peel and the mint like it's just if you know it's coming, maybe it's fine.
But we didn't know it was coming.
No, we didn't.
We we read the label and we still didn't know it was coming.
Bottoms up, bro.

(47:47):
Oh, I'm telling you, I feel all kinds of warm inside right now.
Eleven percent.
Yes, I bet you do.
I was trying to drink that fast so I could get back to the solace and was brown sugar one of them.
Yeah. Okay.
That's what I'm smelling.
I'm telling you, it is syrupy.
All right.
Cheers.
Cheers.

(48:08):
I'm really impressed with how many options are in this reader's wheelhouse.
So this is exactly the face I feel like I was making when I drank it the first time.
I'm really loving this.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
Where you're like, wait, what am I tasting?

(48:29):
It's not.
It's not bad.
No.
Did I say it was bad?
No, it's just not.
Oh, there's like delayed cinnamon.
Yeah, delayed cinnamon.
Well, I don't know that I get the cinnamon really.
The cinnamon is not over.
I actually thought I was like, this is going to taste like fireball.
Like as soon as it says cinnamon, I'm like, it doesn't matter what other flavors it says it has.

(48:52):
I'm not getting the raisin.
But the cinnamon is better.
I'm not getting the vanilla.
Okay.
The raisin to me, I have decided is the like, there's something again, kind of on the edge of your tongue.
To me, it's on the right side of my tongue.
It's where I'm tasting it.

(49:14):
It's almost, it's like if you're, you ever hear Chris Rice's song,
Smell the Color Nine?
Yeah.
It's like tasting red, like a dark red.

(49:35):
Okay.
Like, and not like wine.
Like it's like if the color had a taste to it, it's like right there.
So it's this kind of sweet, but kind of like, I don't know what else to call it.
Like it, it, it's just a weird flavor that I can't put with brown sugar.

(49:57):
Like it's not, it's not brown sugar.
And I don't think it's cinnamon, but maybe it is.
But to me, there's like a delayed hit of cinnamon, but it's not strong.
There is definitely a strong smell of brown sugar smelling it out of the bottle.
Does, does it feel thick to you?
Like, like, yeah, it's like, it leaves a little something on the tongue.

(50:19):
Viscous.
Yeah.
And the, the, what's the viscosity on this?
Yeah.
The bourbon.
10W30, 10W20.
The bourbon barrel into the flavor doesn't hit too hard.
Cause I've had some that are bourbon barrel aged and boy, can you tell it?
It hits pretty hard on that flavor.

(50:42):
That's like on the back of the tongue though.
Yep.
Almost in the throat area.
Anyway, it's, it's a very, do you know what I mean though?
That this is, this is more what I was thinking whenever that it was talking about in old
nation, the like fall warm, whatever it was like, this is very that, but it's also,

(51:08):
it's way more cookie than the way more cookies.
Sweet.
Yeah.
This is the one that Jason had told me at work.
They had some of this, I believe it's his father-in-law had it and nobody really liked it.

(51:29):
Thanks, Jason.
That's what I say.
He, he pulled the fast one.
I think.
We'll, we'll bring up, we'll bring a safety beer next time.
Well, all that to say, I still love you, dude.
Don't like these beers, but you're still, you're still a good dude.

(51:51):
Not our, not our favorites, but anyway.
So, okay.
All right.
So I think that kind of concludes access unless there's anything else that you.
No, I just, I keep looking at the access, like a little commercial that they have rolling
at the top of their page for door access and it is not unattractive.

(52:15):
Okay.
So then we've got just a couple more quick to hit.
I'm beginning to wonder if they just no longer make the PDU that I have.
Cause whenever I come to the power section, it's never there.
They have the high density that's meant to be installed vertically.

(52:37):
And then there's the mission critical.
And then the power backup.
You're never, sorry, I don't know that one.
It's fine.
It's cake.
I think I only know like maybe one cake song.

(52:58):
Oh, sorry.
We're going to get copyright infringement.
Be careful.
No, the copyright infringement is like, you didn't even get close.
Like that didn't sound anything like it.
Keep drinking the beer, man.
Stay, stick with the beer.
Stick with the beer.
They cake was the, he's going the distance, right?

(53:21):
I think that's probably about the only cake song that I know.
Well, I mean that one and never there were probably there.
Okay.
But like, I really, they've got one called no phone, which is just awesome.
Yeah.
Reluctantly crouched at the starting line.
That I know.
That one.
Yes.

(53:42):
He's pumping and thumping in time.
Sorry.
He's going for speed.
My cousin introduced me to cake.
Okay.
So I think that's, there's just a few of their songs from probably those three, honestly.
Wait, was a stick shifts and safety belts.
Was that cake?
That may have been cake.
I sometimes I forget like everything that they did, but anyway, there's a few of their

(54:07):
songs that are like fantastic.
I think if, if stick shifts and safety belts are cake, you need to listen to that one.
It's just funny.
And then, uh, did you talk about the song that called that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Cause it's not one of their albums.
No, no, it's not an album.
It's just a song.
And then, uh, what was the other one?
No phone.

(54:28):
Yes.
It is cake stick shifts and safety belts.
So steak shifts and safety belts and no phone are two.
Okay.
And remember like you need to, I, can you look up no phone and see when it was released?
Let's see.
Early.
I'll be your Jamie.
Thank you.
If anybody knows the reference 2004.

(54:50):
So yeah, early, early two thousands.
Yeah.
No phone.
So in 2004, I want you to remember what kind of phone you had.
2004 I was working.
I, well, I got married in March.
I was working at Toys R Us.
Yeah.
At best.
I probably had some cheap flip phone that summer.

(55:15):
I started working at Cox communications, took advantage of theirs and bumped my way up big
time to the Nokia that flipped open and gave you the full QWERTY.
Oh, look at you.
Oh, I felt I had, I had a red Nokia that had an extendable antenna.
Oh, I felt pretty good about that extendable antenna.

(55:36):
Those days are long gone.
Oh my gosh.
So, but like that is what this song is written about.
Okay.
And if you just like expand to what phones are now, it's okay.
For some reason cake makes me think of the band but whole surfers.

(55:58):
I mean, I don't know why.
Sure.
I don't know why.
Anyway, there's just, yeah.
This, this show brought to you by cake.
Yes.
The beer is sending us off the rails.
I mean in directions that are most unexpected, very unexpected.

(56:23):
Okay.
You were talking about power.
Power.
So I have of all things, I have the power distribution pro.
So more of a traditional PDU, even though it is more than when you, it's got USB C that you can leverage the all of the power plugs are switched.
So you can power cycle anything that you want.

(56:47):
One port in particular is assignable as where your modem is plugged in so that if you lose your internet connection, it will automatically power cycle your cable modem or whatever modem you have or router, whatever it may be to try to see if it can restore service.
And it notifies you of that.
And that I did this once, obviously once everything comes back, comes back up.

(57:13):
But I just haven't seen it on here in quite a while.
No, I don't think that they're.
But then they have the high density.
But again, that's designed to go vertical in a nice big network rack.
So that's a cabling excellence.

(57:34):
Yes, but then they have the power backup, which is a one you it's got 950 watts, but it's really meant as the redundant power supply to specific switch models that they offer.
Which if you have that capability, that's a nice extra bonus. And then again, the mission critical that we were talking about that is a actual switch, but it has that battery backup built inside of the device.

(58:04):
Three hundred and sixty one hours.
Goodness.
So I really wish that they have the pro I, I love mine.
I enjoy it. You can go again. It's all these things are all manageable through the mobile app.
It's fun to go in and go, you know, I haven't rebooted that switch in a while.

(58:26):
I should probably give it a dust boot and I go run into the app and do it.
What was your so yours is called the should be the PDU pro.
So they have the USB PDU pro power distribution pro.
Sure. Not showing up in the store though.
Am I not in the store?

(58:48):
I'm text bags.
Ui.com.
Yeah, see if I just Google search for it, I get ahead.
It's power distribution pro, but it says sold out.
Yeah, no. Okay.
It's not in the store anymore.
It's just they're giving me tech specs on what it was.
So maybe they just don't make that model anymore.
I'm telling you though.

(59:10):
That's that's pretty good looking.
I've really I've enjoyed it.
It's been nice and you can rub it in.
Yeah, not trying to.
Yeah, I've got the power back.
This is that different version of gas.
I mean, I know there's not a different version of gas.

(59:31):
I have two versions of gas.
Dear acquisition syndrome is just as bad as guitar acquisition.
If you just call it gear acquisition syndrome, I feel like guitars fall in that.
They do fall into that category.
Absolutely. Very easily.
Absolutely. Well, all that to say, if you can get your hands on one of these power distant pros, I highly recommend it.

(59:53):
Oh, that hit him.
Oh, folks, this is one of the few times that I wish we had video.
Are you going to make it?
Yeah, so I forgot that I switched beers.
So I think I was I was I was like.

(01:00:17):
I was bracing myself for the like sugar syrup.
And instead, I got all orange.
Oh, so you just took a swig of solace.
That was yeah.
I'm sorry. I thought you took a swig of Dragon's milk and something got you.
No, that was I finished Dragon's milk and I switched back to solace and I thought I was still on Dragon's milk.

(01:00:38):
So what? OK, that was a very strange kind of like when it was it felt like my brain just said, hey, that beer curdled.
Oh, boy, that's that's that's probably even a little bit beyond you thought you were drinking Dr. Pepper, but it's actually tea.

(01:00:59):
Yeah, I know that's that's that's real bad.
Yeah, that's that it's flat.
No, that's not flat. Oh, what's wrong with that?
Yeah. OK. All right.
Well, there's nothing else left in power.
So when you hit integrations real quick and I would say we're kind of.
Yeah, I would say, though, that the the power distribution high density, that's that's a lot of options on distributing power.

(01:01:23):
It is. I don't really like the nema plug, but whatever.
Yeah. OK. So when you get into the integration, there's some interesting things here.
There's some odd things here on the odd side.
EV charger. Where does that even fall into the lineup?
Well, now with the access, you can give access to things like EV chargers, which is a thing.

(01:01:50):
I guess if you're an Apple company.
Well, these guys are from our Apple.
That's what I'm saying. So I think I know where they live.
OK. And I think where they live, EV chargers or something that you want to make sure that only your employees have access to.
Fair enough. Fair enough. If you're going to be something you're talking about, California, I don't know what you're.

(01:02:13):
You mean Southern Canada?
Yes, Southern Canada.
Yes. There's some things here that are like it almost this integrations part kind of feels like beta, except for the catch all.
Yeah, except for the phones like the phone shouldn't be an integration.
They should be their own thing because you've got you've got camera security and you've got door access separate.

(01:02:38):
Phone should be separate.
Yeah, I don't know why phones are included in here.
It makes me nervous that they're thinking about not having them anymore because they took out the flex.
Now there's just the Max and the touch and the telephone adapter, which we use as a fax machine adapter.
Yes.
But it just may be that they just found that most people weren't wanting the flex after all.

(01:03:02):
I hear what you're saying, but I still would like for them to have it as an option.
They don't even have it in the tech specs, which I mean, if they've got the power distribution pro in the tech specs and they don't have the flex, they're saying that thing is bye bye.

(01:03:23):
Yeah.
I really like their phones. I think their phones are great.
They've been the flex is just the one that we've used as kind of a for people that are for people that are used to just a very normal basic phone.

(01:03:44):
The touch and the Max or the touch and the touch Max.
They seem more like what phones should be to me.
What a desk phone now should be should be absolutely.
And I like both of them a lot.
We don't. We actually have some.
We have a lot of staff that don't want their phones, which I'm like, I don't understand.

(01:04:10):
You really want everyone to have your cell phone.
Okay, I just don't think that that's.
Now, granted, this is a church. It's a little bit. Maybe there's some difference there, but just thinking in terms of from a business approach.
You don't want people getting so used to that particular person's number.

(01:04:35):
And then eventually they're going to be gone.
And now everybody is still thinking that person, that number versus if it was a church owned number as people move on, the number continues to function.
It just happens to go to the next person.
So, yeah, there's some business continuity to consider there.

(01:04:57):
Yeah, I think.
I think that's a real thing.
And some of it is the church part, some of it's the mom and pop.
True. Very true. Backwards.
So the next thing in the list, I'm still shocked you haven't bought one. The power.
Yeah, the only reason I haven't bought it is I don't like I don't have.

(01:05:19):
I don't have anybody that's asking me for this.
That's true. And I'm like, I, man, I wish I could justify the cost.
Yeah, it's expensive. So yeah, I mean, so basically for everybody out there, this is basically their version of the Sonos amp.
You bring your speaker, you plug it into here, and now you can essentially cast audio anywhere, anywhere where this is that to those speakers, because I actually.

(01:05:49):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I understand that you said it correctly. Cast anywhere to those speakers. You can plug in a lot of different speakers to this.
There's a lot of functionality here.
Yes. Oh yeah.

(01:06:11):
I don't know.
But at $599, it's a little cost prohibitive for most people.
Yeah, no, it's a weird thing to have in your home.
Yes. So for me, although I want what I would like to do at home.
We have particular friends that like I feel like I don't understand why they don't have this.

(01:06:32):
That's true. I'm not going to name any names.
Animal houses going to my head.
Anyway, there's there's a lot of like, why, hey, can you buy this?
Can you can you? I just want to play with it for a little bit before you install it in your house.

(01:06:53):
Yeah. So for me, what I want to do is I want to put some speakers on my back patio.
And these, this would be great.
But that's a lot of money.
So what I'm looking at is essentially and it pains me to say this just because I know how low end it is.

(01:07:14):
And I know you're now going to think less of me as I say this.
But I'm literally looking at a Bluetooth enabled receiver made by pile.
I see the look of disappointment on your face, but I could pick it up for seventy five dollars off of Amazon.
It can go in my network rack, but it's actually rack mountable.

(01:07:39):
I run my speaker wire out to those outdoor rated speakers and.
I can now send my audio.
Yeah, what's your what's your distance on your back porch to the where it would be sitting?
I'm probably going to be pushing it right at the edge.

(01:08:01):
That's the only thing that Bluetooth. I'm like, what the heck, dude.
Yeah. So what I was really originally looking for is could I find a rack mount receiver that is cost effective?
Oh, there's the face that has HDMI in because what I wanted to do is I just simply wanted to plug in a Chromecast.

(01:08:22):
OK, and I could cast the audio. Sure. No, that makes sense.
But when I start getting into those type of receivers, we're now talking a whole different cost category.
Yeah. And I just have to decide, am I am I ready to make that purchase?
So do you see this as HDMI, my arc? Oh, on the power amp.
That's not surprising. Just throw it out there.

(01:08:47):
You want to go 50 50. Sure.
Then we have to figure out joint custody, joint custody.
Listen, whoever whoever uses it for two weeks has to bring it back to the show.
Yes. We'll have a nice parting gift with its. Blankie and toothbrush.

(01:09:11):
OK, so is there anything left?
I kind of like the phone. I'm concerned that their digital signage kind of just been stuffed into this category.
I don't I don't know how well it's been received, but always a question.
But like the yes, I like them.

(01:09:34):
I think the Kinect display, just because of its size, has a very like it's a most of the time whenever I need an independent signage thing,
I'm not looking for something small.
If I need if I need something that. I'm going to wheel from one place to another or anything like that, or just have in one place or another, like it needs to be bigger.

(01:09:58):
This this is almost like. The size of it is almost.
It's their displays too small. Yeah, it's just it's room like like room number size.
You know what I mean? Yes. And I just I don't I don't have a lot of use for that.
Yeah, I mean, a 21 inch display just isn't going to work for, in my opinion, for a lot of places.

(01:10:22):
But that's where the display cast in the cast display cast pro are different, because now you can just attach this to any existing display you have and turn it into a Kinect display.
And I remember like when we talked about the display cast in the display cast pro, you and I had different opinions about which one of these was actually more.

(01:10:46):
Bang for your buck. Yes. But I don't remember what that discussion was or even why I had the opinion that I had.
But I like the idea of being able to and I guess it's just it has to do with particular use case in what problems I'm being asked to solve right now.

(01:11:08):
The idea of having something connected to our network that then I can use not only for signage, but for specific like I need this room to have this information in it right now.
Like that's really important. Yeah, I'm trying to look real quick to see what the differences are.

(01:11:38):
Yeah, I forgot that you could actually create playlists and then send the playlist. That's intriguing. Right.
I mean, that's to me, that's that's so much of our signage is a playlist. Yes, like it's a I need this and then this and then this.
So I guess the pro gives you the ability to power on and off the display. You know, the HDMI, you can do a keyboard and mouse control via USB C.

(01:12:13):
Well, again, I'm concerned that it's just kind of been tucked in the back corner here and yeah, I think there was something else. So I can't remember what it was.
So yeah, nothing else is really standing out when I look at the two comparisons because you can send the content in 4K and do your playlists.
The pro gives you the turn it off and on again, keyboard and mouse with that.

(01:12:41):
You can do Wi-Fi or ethernet on the pro and I look at the cast to present the 4K playlist, we can automatically power off this one, but the cast is Wi-Fi only.

(01:13:07):
Yeah, I'm not seeing anything between the two that really that really stand out.
Yeah.
So.
Okay, and then in the integrations, I haven't had a chance to try one. I think it'd be interesting to try just to see how it works. Is there basically their mobile routers?

(01:13:29):
Yeah, holy cow. I'd I I've tried a few different times to get people to hey, you want to.
You know, you want to buy one of these for your.
System.
Let me play with it.
But what's weird is that the mobile router is 199, but the mobile router ultra ultra pro max is 129.

(01:14:00):
Yeah.
So if it's better, why is it cheaper?
Always a good question.
And then they do have a industrial version which will hold up to somewhere in terror at 199.
So I wouldn't mind buying the 129 and giving it a try and see how it works.

(01:14:27):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Because it's got the LTE capability built in so you can pop in a sim and go and be a road warrior, if you will.

(01:14:56):
So and then I guess the last two things here is if I remember correctly, Chad had one of their LTE fell overs, but there was a bug in the mix that drove up the cost for him.
Does that sound familiar to you?
No, I thought that happened to Chad.
But I mean, he may just not have told me about it.

(01:15:18):
Okay, so they do have that it's the LTE backup pro.
You can bring your own sim or you can pick a data plan through them.
To me, if I was going to do it, I would bring my own sim.
And I think in that scenario, you're putting yourself in a position where you know what your costs are going to be.

(01:15:40):
And then the other thing and I think it's I like the idea of it, but it's way too expensive because they have their own cable modem.
Yeah, and it's rack mount, which is which is nice because mine is literally just kind of laying in my rack on the side.
But I be honest, how many of y'all that's the case.
Yeah, it's either it's either standing on top of a switch or it's laying on its side.

(01:16:05):
So but for $279, I don't think I'm getting enough to justify that cost.
Well, tell us what we are getting.
That was your you're getting a cable modem.
You're getting a cable.
That's rack mountable.
That's rack mountable.
But yeah, no, we're turning $79.
I'm just saying it's rack mountable because mine is also like the one for the church.

(01:16:33):
Yeah, sitting on top of everything else.
Yep.
Yeah, just waiting for a strong wind to blow it off.
Well, I'm sure if I would take the time to do some design, I could probably print a 3D mounted rack for my yes, you absolutely could spend the $2 to print that.

(01:16:55):
But then how much of your time did you just waste?
Hey, if it works, I can sell it off of eBay and Etsy.
Etsy.
There you go.
What was that?
There was a meme the other day that was like thinking about selling my kids on eBay.

(01:17:18):
And the response was, don't sell them on eBay.
You made those things.
Sell them on Etsy.
There you go.
Okay.
So the last thing in this real quick is this is new.
I'm surprised they've kind of tucked it back in here.
They basically took the NVR Pro.

(01:17:39):
Yes.
That's what it looks like to me.
But this is an actual NAS.
Yeah, UNAS.
UNAS.
There you go.
UNAS Pro.
Care for how you sound.
That sounds like a slur to the Cajun people.
Sure, but they deserve it.
You know what you did, Louisiana.
Don't play coy with me.

(01:18:00):
Yeah, because again, you can put the same seven drives.
So.
Did we talk about on the internet modems, the, sorry, hold on.
I know I'm jumping backwards here for a second, but did we talk about the LTE backup Pro?

(01:18:21):
We did, because we were talking about.
Yeah, because we were talking about Chads.
I thought Chads had one and had a bad experience.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Yes.
And then the UNAS.
Yes.
Sorry.
Good job, Ice.
So, and then beyond that, in the accessories, there's really not a whole lot to talk about
there.
No.
It's SFP ports, some of their fiber patches, their Keystone jacks.

(01:18:49):
You know, nothing there that's unusual.
So, so I would say that would conclude Unifi for us.
Unifi.
Hey, Unifi is not hurting.
So I'm not like telling you to go look at Unifi because they need your help or anything

(01:19:14):
like that.
I think Unifi offers a unique solutions set.
They do.
And take it or leave it.
You know, you may, whatever, but if you're not like Cisco branded out the wazoo, I think

(01:19:36):
it's worth looking at, especially if you don't have the, don't have quite the capital or
if you're just not wanting the year over year investment.
Yeah.
And you can avoid the subscription costs.
Right.
It just keeps coming at you.

(01:19:57):
Yeah, it does.
You don't own that.
No.
And the other thing that's great about this, because of the...
Chris, do you like buying things that you don't own?
No, no one likes that.
No, nobody likes that.
Silicon Valley thinks you do though.
They don't think you like it.
They think you're stupid enough to keep doing it.
Yes.

(01:20:18):
Well, fair.
I said what I said.
You said what you said.
That's fair.
It's free country for now.
Okay.
So do you have time anything to talk?
Probably not.
Mighty Networks?
I want to prep you for Mighty Networks.
Okay.
So this was actually brought to me by a friend who wanted to talk initially with me about

(01:20:41):
podcasting.
He had an idea for a podcast that he and his friend wanted to get started on.
And so he was asking me questions about gear as one would.
Yes.
Hey, what gear do you...
He wanted to sit down and have a conversation about this.
Well, because of life and everything else, that got pushed.

(01:21:02):
Sure.
To where we finally got around to it.
And when we sat down this time, he was like, okay, I'm a little more knowledgeable than
I was before.
We've already started to do some of this, but we've decided that instead of a podcast,
what we want to build is a community.
And so there's the part of me that is immediately suspicious whenever there's a software or

(01:21:30):
a offering or whatever that comes out that's new.
But that's why I want to look at this together.
What he has suggested is this mightynetworks.com.
Mighty Networks seems to be what they're selling is the idea that instead of a podcast or a

(01:21:53):
YouTube channel, they want to give you the option of being able to put different resources
together but that are geared towards a specific group of people.
Sure.
Now, what they really want you to do is to be able to turn that into income by paying

(01:22:15):
them.
Yes.
Obviously.
Everybody wants money.
So you pay them.
We turn this into income by making all of them like you have to pay to get access to
the foundation.
Access or access to anything.
I don't know if there's a free version for each channel or not.

(01:22:38):
I call it a channel because that's what it's historically been called, but they would call
it a community.
If there's like free versions of these communities and there's a paywall or if all of it is
behind a paywall, so you subscribe by actually subscribing to financially somebody.

(01:22:59):
But they actually also like this when I was going through it and like, oh, well, let's
see what it looks like to whatever.
It was very much immediately moving me towards like, okay, well, if you have this many subscribers
and you have this many events in a year and you charge this much per prescription and

(01:23:25):
you charge this much per event, like then your income will be this.
And I was like, oh, I feel greasy.
Like immediately.
Yeah.
I'm having a hard time with it.
I have some feelings about paywall.
Yeah.
So this almost feels a lot like locals.com.

(01:23:49):
I don't know if you're familiar with that.
Yes.
Again, it's that same thing about build a community.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So mindy networks.com.
What I want to talk about is not necessarily the way that this is doing this, but the idea
that what we want is not just to be able to, you know, even in podcast communities, you

(01:24:19):
enjoy listening to these other people's thoughts, but you would like it better if you were sitting
in the room with them.
Sure.
I think, I mean, I think there's a step in between.
I think you like listening to them, but you would like it better if you could see them.
You like seeing them, but you would like it better if you were sitting next to them.
Yeah, but I have a face for radio.

(01:24:40):
I so do I.
But you know what I mean?
Like we have this interaction that is at least half visual.
Yeah.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Like the fact that we keep referencing like, oh, I wish you could see his face right now.
Like the, like there's, there's things happening that you can't see.
But that's, but that's where chapter art comes in.

(01:25:01):
No, absolutely.
I don't think that there's not other ways to overcome this.
And there's something very, like there's the, we have movies, but people still read books.
I'm not saying that one takes out the other, but I do think that like there's, there's
a, there's a place for like, let's figure out how to bring all of these pieces together

(01:25:25):
and make this a, this type of, like even if, you know, like I would love for, there's
there to be a seamless way to say like, if you want to listen to the podcast, that's
an offering.
Yeah.
If you want to see us in the room, that's an offering.
You know, like if you want to have a conversation, that's an offering.

(01:25:51):
Like the, that, that all of these places are all tied into the same place.
Okay.
I like that idea and so the, the idea that Mighty Networks is kind of doing some of that,
it's attractive to me.
I don't like it feels sleazy.
The minute I start talking about having a paywall, paywall, that's, that's only because

(01:26:15):
I'm not trying to make this my job.
Sure.
I'm sure that people who are trying to make this their job really appreciate how easy
it is for them to do the paywall.
Anyway.
I guess the bummer here is that you missed the opportunity to pitch audio Sigma with,

(01:26:37):
with them.
Sorry.
Yes.
That's okay.
Sorry, Fernando.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's a, that's a good teaser for next, for next show.
Wait, no, I did.
Nevermind.
Go ahead.
So, but yeah, I guess so next show we can kind of dig into that a little bit deeper

(01:26:59):
and kind of talk about what it offers.
Yeah, I would, I would love for us to maybe the, maybe the like theme of the show can
be what?
How to try to drive a community.
And like driving a community.
What, what the advantages of, of like different venues of that, that are available to it.

(01:27:22):
I don't know if venues is the right word, but like offerings, different ways of doing
this.
Yeah.
Do they have advantages?
Do we, are we sticking up our nose at this type of, you know, way of doing this?
Is this, we're not going to change what we're doing.

(01:27:42):
I'm not saying that I'm saying like, if it's a, if it's a thing, why is it a thing?
And then the, you know, the fact that this is part of what technology has turned into
is these, we all crave these communities in one way or another.
And we want to find our tribe, find our people.
Yeah.
And the, I mean, technology is very much trying to scratch that edge inside of what we're

(01:28:10):
giving.
So anyway, always glad to hang out with you.
You enjoyed it, man.
Thank you for the beer, Jason.
Yeah, thank you for the talking points.
Yes.
Wow.
Yikes.
See you everybody.
See you.
Well, hello there friends.
Guess what we're making today?
Butter.
We're going to make butter from squash, friends.

(01:28:51):
It's so easy.
You're not going to believe it.
If you come to my house, I promise you, you'll feel better when you get out because you have
so much butter.
My mom calls WD-40.
It's fabulous lubrication.
Butter makes everything better.
Butter makes everything butter.
No, butter makes everything.

(01:29:11):
Did I say butter?
I said butter.
I say butter makes everything butter.
Butter makes everything better.
It really does.
I love butter, but we can talk about that some other time.
You can skip the butter.
I was only kidding.
Don't skip the butter, okay?
I'm using a butter olive oil.

(01:29:35):
Butter olive oil.
Anybody who doesn't like butter, I don't trust them.
I have the ball of butter right there.
That's just for emotional support because I don't think I'm going to put any butter in
there.
Maybe we'll put some in there.
We'll see.
They say you have enough butter in the dough.
You know what I say?
You never have enough butter.

(01:29:56):
Somebody is going to say, oh, I like your food, but it's too much butter.
Well, guess what?
Go eat somewhere else, okay?
Because my food is going to have butter.
We're going to finish it up with butter.
Yeah, you got to have butter.
Butter, oh baby.
No margarine.
Margarine is a molecule away from acrylic.
You like plastic?
You eat your margarine.
Yeah, eat your margarine.
I'll eat my butter.

(01:30:17):
Thank you very much.
It wouldn't be our channel if we didn't use any butter.
So butter is good for you.
The right way to do it, don't be afraid now.
Butter is our friend.
You don't have to put butter if you don't want to put butter.
But I do.
That's for emotional support.
I have to stop for a second because I need to get some butter and cream.

(01:30:43):
I like better butter, but it's really up to you.
It doesn't matter.
I love my butter.
This is going to be good.
The main ingredient of a lemon sauce, believe it or not friends, the main ingredient of
a lemon sauce is butter.
Fresh lemon juice.
This is going to be very acid.

(01:31:05):
I love it when it's very acid because the more acid it is, the more butter I can put
in.
So you want to put a little butter in there.
Measure carefully.
We're going to put a little bit of butter on the pan.
Just a little bit of butter.

(01:31:26):
Maybe a little bit more.
I'll publish the exact recipe.
There's never enough butter.
And of course we're going to use a little butter.
I love butter.
You know that right?
Butter is good for you.
My mom calls it WD-40.
It's good for you.
We're going to use the butter.
Don't worry.
See look at that.
We're going to put a little bit of chicken stock.

(01:31:48):
Maybe just a little bit of cream.
What do you think?
And butter.
We're going to put butter.
We're going to put butter friends.
Butter it is.
Butter it is.
Butter is good.
All right friends.
Butter is good.
You know Time Magazine had an article, Eat Butter.
I'll show you.
I'll show you the article.
It's very old.
No it's not at all really.

(01:32:10):
Look it was 2014.
Not that long ago.
Time life.
Eat butter.
You know how many times I read this?
Look at this.
It's a little old right now.
Eat butter.
Scientists label fat the enemy.
Why they were wrong.
Read the article.
Butter is good for you.

(01:32:31):
Look.

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