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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hello everybody, and I would like to welcome you to
with the beard Out Podcast, the podcast about two of
the greatest things in the world. Year and Weird Hew,
and we are starting side two of the Dare to
Be Stupid album Deep Dive, And if you recall, we
started side one with friend of the show, an overall
(00:54):
excellent fellow, Noah. And guess what, Noah's here to start
side two of Dare to Be Stupid with us as well,
and I say us meeting me and you. So Noah, Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I am great? Yeah, I'm doing real real good. Happy
to be here, happy too, Uh kickoff side too.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Here, huzzas kicking off side two Kicking off twenty twenty five,
and we had we had one episode this year so far,
but it was about the uh New Year's Eve Polko
five four three two one. Now we're back into regular stuff,
thank you very much. I felt like, uh, so, you know,
not to delve too far back into what's already happened.
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But folks, if you haven't listened to the New Year's
Eve Poko five four three two one episode, it was
a big first for this program.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
There were four.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
People on the episode and we were all recorded it
in one place. We were all sitting in the room
that I'm in right now. I had four mike arms
and four microphones, and my friend Chris, who was on
the show, had to bring over two extra chairs because
we don't have that many chairs. Speaking of which, Noah,
I could be putting you on the spot right now,
(02:11):
but there is a YouTube music video and I don't
remember who does it. It's just one of those things
that lives rent free in my head. It's a parody
of that Welcome to Welcome to my house. We don't
have any chairs here?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yep, yes, Ven Johnson, So there you go. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I just know that every time I think about the
lack of chairs, I was like, we.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Don't have any chairs here. So well done.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, people should check that out because that's funny. So so, Noah,
first of all, here at the beginning of the show,
I have to make sure I say something otherwise I'll
forget to say it. I am enjoying a Sweetwater four
twenty gummies sour watermelon IPA. Yeah, well the Sweetwater Brewing
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Company they're you know, from the brewer of Atlanta, Georgia.
So I guess four twenty is an interstate that goes
through there, but it's a gummy There's like like gummy
sharks all over the can and it's green and it
looks like, you know, gummy, it's slimy. And so that's
what I'm having to go with our discussion of Georgia
of the Jungle and slime creatures from outer space. But also, Noah, yes,
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is there anything at the beginning that you would like
to make sure that the listeners of the show check
out that you do or anything like that, because I
know you do things.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I do things. Oh boy, do I do things. So
if you want to, you can go to my YouTube channel,
the Entertainment Zone. I mostly post videos about Doctor Who,
and I have not posted anything in a while there,
(03:58):
but I covered most of the last season in the
sixtieth anniversary specials, which I very much enjoyed. And then
if you want to follow me, you can follow me
at No One Will Say on Twitter, where I do
a lot of twitting about reality television. We got some
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good shows coming up here, So if you have seen
me in the Twitter threads for the beard Ol podcast,
it's similar to that, except you know, talking about stupid stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So well, you know, look at everything everybody talks about
as stupid, right, And I do have to say that
I feel like reality television gets pooped on a lot,
but I also feel like there are so many redeeming
qualities to it as an entertainment form, right, that the
(04:55):
people who poop on it don't necessarily get So I
like you, you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Talk about it in a very intelligent way.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Absolutely. Oh oh, trust me. You do not want to
get me going on that bandwagon, because I will go
to bat for a lot of reality television competition shows.
But yeah, so's it's a fun time and it's a
nice little corner of the world. You know. I've got
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my weird al fandom, which is its own cool community,
and then the reality TV community is also also pretty great,
and I've met a lot of great people through those shows,
so that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm all about finding community around the things that we
like and enjoy and celebrate in our own weird little way.
And so, speaking of celebrating things in our own weird
little way, this is going to be a two for
episode because I didn't feel like the song George of
the Jungle could carry an entire episode of this show,
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so I needed to talk about it a little bit.
So this episode is going to cover both the George
of the Jungle cover as well as the original Slim
creatures from outer space. So the show is gonna be
formatted exactly like these episodes are usually formatted. I'm gonna
have some facts and information at the beginning, and then
we're gonna dive into talking about what we think works
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about both of the tracks.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We're gonna take a little break to pay some bills.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't know why all these Williams need money from me,
but we're gonna pay some bills and then come back
on the other side with stuff that we maybe think
doesn't work, and give the tracks a rating on a
scale of one to twenty seven. And we're gonna rate them. No,
what you know, what, Pat, do you want to do it?
Do you want to rate each one separately?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm I'm fine doing every doing them separately, because yeah,
it's just the way you've been doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You're all ready for that. So we'll rate that separately.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're doing them as one episode, but we will rate
them separately in the final segment of this particular program.
So without without further ado, let's dive in to side
two of Dare to Be Stupid, and Side too inexplicably
kicks off with the cover of the George of the
Jungle cartoon theme song. It's a whopping one minute and
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five seconds and it is a cover of the George
of the Jungle theme song written by Sheldon Aulman and
Stan Worth. And this is a bit of an anomaly
in Weird Owl's ouvre because as far as I can tell,
it's the only really straight up cover that exists on
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an album.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right, Yep, I'm not wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I don't think no, no, I don't think there has
been any other covers, which is one of the things
that confuses me.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
This is very confusing, right, Like, so, I was trying
to figure out why this existed, and I spent probably
too much time trying to like various you know, forums
and message boards and this, that and the other, trying
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to be like, why in the great good heck did
this happen? And somebody somewhere on some Reddit thread had
said that the record label demanded that he have one
straight cover on the Dare to Be Stupid album, just
like they demanded a Cindy Law proparity and this is
just what al came up.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
With to fulfill that obligation.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And I couldn't find any concrete information to verify that.
But I also couldn't find anything to the contrary.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, I mean in terms of yeah, I mean
in terms of if you're gonna do a cover, you know,
I think doing something from an animated television show works,
you know, I think, you know, I could see him
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doing something for the Flynnstones or something of that. Ilk here,
so's it's a nice choice if he's being forced to
do it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, if he's being forced to do it, right, And
so here's the thing, coming from a weird ol fan
who got into weird ow in the mid nineties, as
was age appropriate for myself to do. That was just
prior to the nineteen ninety eight Brendan Fraser George of
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the Jung film.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I was very confused by this for a very long
time because I got into weird Alt and I start
getting his stuff. Then I hear him cover George of
the Jungle, and then all of a sudden there's Brendan
Fraser looking all like Brendan Fraser being George of the Jungle,
and it's connected in my brain somehow, But like, there's
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no reason Al didn't record this for the soundtrack of
that because this happened thirteen years before. But in my brain,
I'm experiencing all of this at the same time, so
I don't know, and so none of it made sense.
And now, like retrospectively looking back at it, I'm like,
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I don't I truly truly don't understand this. And now
I gotta know. Was this like we just like weird
Al's favorite cartoon.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have to I have to imagine because again, it
just feels like, if you're gonna do something like this,
you're you're gonna do something that's a bit childish, a
bit silly, and you know, uh so I would imagine
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that he would kind of dive into something that was
kind of relevant to when he grew up. Yeah, but yeah,
it's it's such a weird choice to me because one,
he had never done this before. He didn't do it
on his first album, he didn't do it on in
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three D. And it's like, if you're going to do something,
you know, like I'm I'm surprised he didn't do something like, uh,
beat on the brat or you light up my life,
which you know, because there's demos of him doing those
songs out there, so I'm surprised he didn't opt for that.
(12:04):
But again, this it's just it's such such a weird
choice and is one of many things that I don't
get about Side To here.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, and so so this is all very a very good,
very good point because it's like this particular song and
this side of the album rather, it's like we're already
getting into all of the things I don't like about
There to Be Stupid, Right, it's the first side.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
There's so much that works and so much that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And these next couple of episodes, like the oh, this
whole side basically sorry listeners is going to be me
complaining about how this could have been so much better
because you you can listen to There to Be Stupid, Right,
You end side one with.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
What does it end with? Yo? Right?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yoda?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You end with Yoda. You flip it over and you
get this yep.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I hate that, Like, yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah. I I was listening to Side to in preparation
for this, and that that was one of the things
that I noticed, is, you know, Yoda is a slower song.
It's it's a bit more mellow. So I do think
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that starting with something that like really, you know, if
you started started this side with like cable TV, that
might kind of jolt the listener a little bit. But
you could have just flipped these two songs.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You could have flipped these two songs I have.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
As you go through side to, I'm going to start
slowly unraveling what I think would make this better.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And we're not even anywhere near.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
The polka, you know what. We're getting into conversation that
we shouldn't even be having it. You know, we're talking
about the fact of course now no, no, it's not you,
it's me. This is my freaking show. And I'm just
going all over the place. So George of the Jungle,
why is it there? We don't know, But anyway, that
song happens. And then you go into Slime Creatures from
Outer Space, which is about slime creatures from outer space
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and it is a style parody purportedly of Thomas Dolby,
specifically the song Hyperactive, which I did listen to, and
I'm like, okay, I get that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I can see that. Why you know why that's the idea.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
There and just a couple little trivia nuggets that I
got from the weird Al fandom wiki page, as I
do for these, because why not, you know. At the
end of the song, turning up the volume allows a
Ghostbuster's reference to be heard, where Al says who are
you gonna call? And the response is slime Creatures, which
I tested and it's like, okay, that does work. According
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to an ask al response, the line quote blow you
up real good is a reference to SCTV's farm film
Celebrity blow Up Sketches and the other thing, where it's like, okay,
why But the lyric They'll suck your brain out through
a straw is similar to an episode's of the Kids
WB cartoon series Detention, where Emmett Roswell imagines his high
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school principal, mister McQueen, sucking people's brains out through straws,
which is just like, okay, this is a similar thing.
It has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah. And also Recess came out in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, exactly, so maybe they're trying to say that, hey,
Recess maybe heard this. The Recess people define people.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
At Recess.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That that makes more sense.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, So who knows who knows. So, yeah, so you
got this.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Track right, and I like this song. I don't love
this song, but I like this song, and I don't
have any further factual information about it. It just kind of
is what it is. So I guess let's just get
into going to talk about what we like about George
of the Jungle and Slim Creatures from Matter Space we
might as well.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, So I think for me, what I like about
George of the Jungle is it's a competent cover. Like
there's nothing here that I think is worse than the original.
In many ways, I think it's a good update, you know.
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I like the fact I feel like there's a lot
of auditory kind of gags that are kind of made
longer and just kind of stretched out a little more
and given a little more room to breathe, like, you know,
(17:08):
I love the yell or when he's like hitting the tree.
So I I think there's a lot in the construction
of this cover that improves upon the original.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yes, I absolutely am right there with you. And what's
fun is that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Weird aw not one to there's no other way for
me to put this, not one to half ass anything,
even the stuff that doesn't deserve even part of an
ass whole asked the George of the Jungle cover, insofar
as he got Bill Scott, George of the Jungle himself,
to do that, the yells are actually George of the Jungle. Like,
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that's not a sample, that's not anything from the cartoon.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's the guy.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's the guy, and that's really cool and it's like,
interestingly enough, Bill Scott, the voice of George of the Jungle,
passed away in November of nineteen eighty five, not long
after this was done, so this is very much one
of the last things.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Things that he did.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And you're right, it's a very competent, like totally fine
cover of the George of the Jungle theme song. And
according to the rest of the Internet, the song later
appeared on the soundtrack to the nineteen ninety seven film
adaptation of George of the Jungle. So that could be
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why my brain made the I was not one to
go out and purchase the soundtrack album to the nineteen
ninety seven filed film adaptation of George of the Jungle,
but apparently this song is on there.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That that makes sense. Yeah, I find you know when
you're a kid and you're listening to different things and
then maybe you uh, you know, you see the thing
that it's based off of, then you connect the two.
(19:21):
I was more of a Tarzan guy because that that
came out around the time that I was a kid.
So I believe that I saw George of the Jungle
at some point, but I was more familiar with Tarzan
and uh, that soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I mean George of the Jungle being a parody
of Tarzan. Play all of this, right, and so like
we're kind of hitting on the the cycle of parody
that sort of ends up happening here, right, because you've
got George of the Jungle, which is a parody of Tarzan,
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and then Weird now covers the George of the Jungle
theme song, and then his cover of the George of
the Jungle theme song ends up on the nineteen ninety
seven live action film adaptation of George of the Jungle,
and then not long after that comes Disney's animated version
of Tarzan. So you get all these shirtless men swinging
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from trees and it's like, what song goes with what
You'll be in my heart?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Or is it this?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
So exactly it's very interesting. It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so I like it in that it's fine as
a standalone thing, and I will save my criticism for
a different portion of this episode. But yeah, since we're
talking about two different songs here on this episode, did
you have anything.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Else you want to say about George of the Jungle
or do you want to move on.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
To talking about the slime Creatures as they were?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think the only other thing that I'll say is,
you know, I I like the kind of vocal inflections
that Al's doing, you know, I think that kind of
I love that last little bit when he goes tree.
Uh that that's kind of a nice little way to
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and the whole thing there. But yeah, I mean that again,
like I said, this is this is fine there. Everything
that is on this track I think just kind of
elevates the cover. So I'm I'm not mad about that. Yeah,
I'm just a just puzzled about why this is here.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
It's puzzling as indeed puzzling.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So yeah, yeah, that minute and five has then followed
by the almost I've been long Slime Creatures from outer Space, which,
like I said before, it's a it's got your Thomas
Dolby bit to it, but then there's also just the
whole cheesy fifties sci fi soundtrack deal to the whole song.
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As far as stuff that I think really works about
Slime Creatures.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
From outer Space is.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You can listen to this song three, four or five
times in a row and pick a different instrument or
thing to be on the lookout for, and have a
completely different experience every different time you listen to it.
I feel like this song has a lot of instrumental
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like musical layers that at first blush can can often
be discounted because of the placement of the song or
just the fact that it's not really it's not parodying
anything in particular, you know, it's it doesn't shine as
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well as a style parody as like a Dare to
Be Stupid does. Okay, but I think there's some great
stuff in it. In particular, I'm absolutely going to call
out Steve J's bassline in this song, yeah, because it slaps.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Absolutely. Yeah, That's That's what I was going to pick out,
is that is just a wonderful way to kind of
start the song here. You know, you got the you know,
he got that bassline, he got the drums, you've got
the theorem in in the background, which is another one
(23:50):
of uh my favorite bets, you know, And yeah, it
it feels like a sci fi themes. It feels like
something that could have easily been in one of these
eighties sci fi you know, Blockbusters. You know, it could
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have easily been in something like Ghostbusters, and and you know,
so I think that that is something that really works,
and it's something that like when I think of Dare
to Be Stupid, this is one of the songs besides
the title Trek that I think of because I feel
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like even looking at the cover art, it's just listening
to that song and looking at the cover art for
the album, it kind of puts me in a very
like the right mood to get into that headspace for
this song.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I think I like that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And actually, this this point that I'm about to make
this thing, I am about to say, I feel like
lands on the complimentary side of Slime Creatures based on
you know, especially what you just said that this should
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have been the album closer. This should be this song
that ends this album. I will talk later, but how
I hate the fact that this album ends with the
Polka doesn't Nope, that's just bad form. And I this
song should have ended this album because it continues in
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that pattern, right, the self titled and I'm pointing at
it hanging on my wall, which is why I'm gesturing
up this way. The self titled debut album ends with
Mister Trump and the Iron Lung, then in three D
ends with Nature Trail to Hell. This album should have
ended with slime creatures from outer space, because that's what
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, it is. There's so much going
on in the song, like you said there, there's so
much to pick out that it feels like kind of
the event that the album should end on. You know
that the album is kind of sparse when it just
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kind of goes out with a whimper, you know, with
that polka so one of.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
The go ahead o you go.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh okay. I was just gonna say, you know, to
the effect, to that effect, you know, I love the fact,
like like I love all the sound effects that are
in this song. I know you've talked in previous episodes
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about certain songs where the sound effects kind of cheapen,
uh the weird al song. So looking at something like
Achy Breaky's.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Song, Yeah that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That very much feels like, you know, once you start
doing those types of effects, it's like, do you really
have confidence in your song that, like the rest of
it's good that you know, you don't need to be
doing all these gags here. But with something like Slime
Creatures from Outer Space, I really feel like the instrumentation
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and all the sound effects here really kind of help
set that feel and really heightens the song.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, oh absolutely this needs it, right, this absolutely needs it.
You know you mentioned the theoremon earlier, like this song
wouldn't be half as awesome as it is without the theoremon,
And that's also courtesy of Steve J. So he's got
the baseline and the theorem, and so like Steve J
is like half the reason this song slaps as much.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
As it does, because he's like, well, I'm just gonna
do this other thing and like I would love to
live in a world.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So again, like I said, as we go through this,
because this is not a complaint, right, this is saying
that Slime Creatures is good enough to close this album,
and so I will say things like this as we
continue on through side too.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But I feel like.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Take the Polka have a closed side one move Yoda
to open side two, follow Yoda with Georgia of the
Jungle for all I care, okay, and then close it
with slime Creatures from outer Space, and it's already better.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But yeah, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, I hear you. I not h not to get
too deep into things, but I do feel like there's
a lot of steam that gets lost here. You know,
you start off side one so strong, and there's just
nothing on side too that keeps that momentum kind of going. Here.
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It's a quicker side to get through, but you know
that that certainly is kind of a downside of it
as a whole.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, I feel like side one of There to Be Stupid.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I think I said this when talking to Insaney, and
I think Side one of There to Be Stupid is
a great EP. You almost don't need side two. You know,
the songs are there's every song on side two has
a moment none of it's none of them are bad. Okay,
we're gonna talk about stuff we don't like here after
the break in a little bit, but none of them
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are bad. It's just when you compare anything on side
do to side one, it's like, why am I here?
You know, This is why when I was a kid,
I listened to Derby Be Stupid on shuffle, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But yeah, yeah, this is one of the few that
I don't I don't go back to I I like
you kind of said, I listened to all these songs sporadically,
just not not together.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So, but to just make sure that I keep talking
about stuff that we like, about slam greasers or matter space,
because this is what I'm gonna have to keep doing.
It's not it's it's not even you, Noah, It's it's
the nature of this side. Is any good thing that
anybody has to say is gonna be like, oh but
it could have been better off this, this.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
This and this and this happened.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's like, well, it's gonna be incumbent upon me to
be like, okay, here we are right. So lyrically, I
think this song does one of those things that weird
aw just does so incredibly well. And and that's putting
just a really like oh gosh, I'm just so slightly
annoyed by this thing when the thing is something really
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really big. You know, it's like I just shampooed the rug.
It's okay, but like alien apocalypse though.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Right, Yeah, exactly, there's you know, they they took Tokyo
and then uh what they went for New York and
then they're blowing people up there. There's just all all
this destruction. They're reproducing in the sewers.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I love that he says, now they're reproducing in the sewers.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh yeah, that's a perfect way to like cap off
that verse. That's just a really funny way to cap
it off.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So yeah, I don't do Do you have anything else you
love about either of these?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, like you said, I I do kind of like
that thing you said of of him taking something that's
really serious and kind of minimizing it. I always go
back to the fact that he is so good at
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painting a visual picture of everything. So you know, you
can always like his really good songs or you know,
really proficient songs are the ones that really paint that
picture in your mind. And this is no different where
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you know it is, Yeah, just a very visual representation
of what's going on here. And so that's what I
always kind of appreciate. It's it's just kind of let
me close my eyes and just kind of really hear song,
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feel it, say it all of that and he does
that really well.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah, he absolutely does.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And this is when it's visceral in its way, you know,
because you can see it, you can hear it, you
can picture it.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
In your mind's eye.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And this is one of those songs that, uh there
there's a couple of pinball machines at one of the
arcades the rest that I go to a lot that
they're kind of based in like this kind of situation
where it's either like, you know, aliens are coming or this,
that and the other. I'm trying to think of the
names of some of them off the top of my head,
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but I can't right now. I'm just I just keep
seeing doctor Dude, and I'm like, I know that's not
the one. But anyway, so I'll play these pinball machines
and then like my brain will start going on for
you a life stim creatures, you know, it's like, okay,
that would that's what would make sense, Like if this
pinball machine had a soundtrack, it would be something like this.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
So there's a time and place for this. It's just
it's at the end of.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
The album, not right after George's Jungle, that's all.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah. So yeah, absolutely, I think you know, I think
even this could it could either start side to or
end it because I feel similar to how Yoda is
more kind of mellow. I feel like this is a
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song that is, you know, with that bassline and everything.
It's not super like Jolty, so it has that similar
kind of view thereof just kind of easing you back
into the music. So I think it could go kind
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of either way. But I think that's I would either
place it at the beginning or or end.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, I know, I get that. I feel like I'm
going to end up. I think Ian and I talked
about this too. I'm gonna end up doing an episode
that's like separate from all of this, where I was
just like, all right, let's let's reorder this whole damn thing,
you know, so.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Rip and open make it better. I have I can
fix it. We have the technology.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
You can make it better. But anyway, I think that's
a that's a good place to throw it to some
man breaks here, pay those Williams and then come back
on the other side and talk a little bit more
about what really gets grinds our gears, what is stuck
in our craw and well we'll come back at you
(35:37):
uh in a couple of minutes and with all of.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
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Speaker 4 (36:07):
Hey, I'm Hansel Saren from the bfytw podcast here with
my buddy Stevie Hey, was up and Aggie Hey, and
we're here to first of all, categorically deny the rumors
going around that all we've been doing lately is copying
other podcasts. This is categorically untrue and we deny it completely.
Having said that, please continue to enjoy the beard Al Podcast,
(36:29):
But when you're done, please check out our new project,
the weird Ale Podcast, where we pair an ale with
a weird al song. Pretty sure that hasn't been done before.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Our back. Gosh, that was a great head break.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Who love them? Love those ads? Oh my God, and
you really know how to pick them.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I really do know how to pick them, don't. I Like,
it's like I curated them by hand for.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
All of you.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Okay, so we're here now to talk about what we
think doesn't work about George of the Jungle and Sam
Creech is a matter space and as I'm sure all
of my intelligent listeners can glean, we we have things
that we don't like.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes we do.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Did you want to go first? Do you want me
to go?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'll go first? I mean okay, So for George of
the Jungle, and I really have said this is that
it just doesn't make sense that they would ever make
weird I'll do a cover, you know. I I don't
know if covers were a big thing in eighty five,
(37:54):
but it just feels like a really weird choice when
that's not something that he had done for the previous
uh yeah, previous two albums.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, I been better, even a better pick here.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Like yeah, and this is not like because Owl's not
bad at covers like I, I for one have seen
I've watched every single cover that closed the different dates
on the uh the ridiculously self indulgent, illandvised Man is
Vanity Tour and the Unfortunate Return of the ridiculously self
(38:38):
indulgent illandvis Vanity Tour. And the man is good at
doing covers. I have beat on the Brat on Vinyl.
I have heard and love his cover of What Is
Life by George Harrison. I think that is such a
beautiful and earnest cover. So the man can do straight
covers more than competently. He can do them expertly. This
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still doesn't make this make sense, and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
It had it had to be.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
It had to be somebody making him do this, because
this is not This is not like, it doesn't feel
like it fits at all. It just feels very This
feels very like you know how when somebody makes you
(39:33):
do something and you're just like, okay, well fine, you know, yeah,
that's what this feels like.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
What's interesting is he's not showing the same animosity for
this song that he did for Girls Just Want to
have Lunch like that one. You would think he like
had a gun to his head and he's just like,
all right, well I'm gonna my teeth and do list. So,
(40:04):
I mean, I'm surprised that it came out so well.
But yeah, it's it's just it's such a weird, weird,
weird choice.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
It's so strange, it's so strange, and actually not to
not to foreshadow too deeply, but I will be talking with.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Lily Hirsh about girls just want to have lunch and.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Felt like she felt like the only appropriate person to
have that conversation with.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
So that's what's about to happened.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. I'm interested
to see how that goes, because I could either end
up making her hate it more or I could end
up walking away with a deeper appreciation for it based
on her musicologist analysis of the track.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
But yeah, this, like I guess for something that he
was I'm gonna just guess forced to do. Yeah, at
the very least he picked something that he thought was
fun based on it because at George of the Jungles,
a nineteen sixty seven cartoon which tracks for al being
born in nineteen fifty nine, right, this would have been
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a cartoon he watched as a kid, and he was like, well,
you know, whatever, that would be like me if I
was forced to do a cover, I'd be like, oh,
this is a story about a guy named Alan.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
He lives in Serrum and Sampton. Right, somebody made me
do a cover. That's what I do. So I get it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I totally understand it, but at the same time, it
doesn't make sense. I understand it, but it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
And I hate it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, a Slime Creatures, Is there anything you don't like
about that?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So? I think for Slime Creatures, it you know, so
you touched on this when you know there there's the
two most prevalent categories of weird al songs are you know,
either something is going really horribly around him and he's
(42:27):
trading it like it's nothing, or something is not given
enough weight. And I feel like my only issue with
Slime Creatures is I don't think that it goes hard
enough in either direction. You know. I feel like he
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you know, he talks about the gravity of the situation.
You know, there's this phasian they try to stop it
and are almost immediately neutered, and then there's you know,
all this chaos that is being rained down, and he
does have some of that nonchalance, but you know it,
(43:21):
I feel like it kind of comes to a head
with the whole I hope they don't come in here.
I just shampooed the rug. I don't feel like he
really you know, it's not like one of those days
where it's just getting progressively worse and worse and he's
just acting more nonchalant. It's just like, uh, it remains
(43:45):
kind of even keeled throughout when I feel like he
could have gone a little bit harder.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
One way or the other.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
No, absolutely, that totally makes sense, you know, because I
mean then even ends with the like what do they
want from us?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Who do they think they are? Oh?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You know, it's like, well, okay, yeah, yeah, Like for
as much as there is that's funny and like very
very weird al about all of the lyrical content that occurs.
It's you're you're totally spot on with the fact that
it doesn't it doesn't feel like it goes hard enough
one way or the other.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
This is very like.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
They're here, it's annoying. Oh no, there goes tokyo. Oh no,
their nails are bad a.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Right, It's it's it's almost like he had to throw
in the thing about how they need manicures and how
they're slimy to to make it a little funnier and
make it a little more nonchalant, because yeah, it remains
very even keeled. I feel like, and this might be
(44:51):
a good segue, but I feel like it could be
a perfect song to use in a movie for, you know,
some kind of sci fi adventure here, and so maybe
that pays credence, you know, you know, maybe that pays
(45:14):
credence to the fact that it's kind of more even keeled.
Even though when this song was released, it it wasn't
specifically for a soundtrack on a movie.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
No, you're right, it absolutely wasn't.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
But you do give me a good segue to a
thing that I almost forgot to talk about. In organizing
my thoughts for this episode, it came to my attention
that Slime Creatures from Outer Space features on the soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
To Scooby Doo and the Alien Invaders.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It originally obviously by Weird Now, and on the soundtrack
it was performed by Gary Falcone and Joe Pizzulo. And
this all happened in the year two thousand.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Which I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
By the way, it's not on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I had to dig to find it on internet. On
the Internet. But it's there and I heard it and
it exists.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
And when I shared it with you, Noah, you were like,
why didn't they just use a house?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, I I I don't understand that decision either, Like, yeah,
it's it's it's a comedy song, Like it's it's a
comedy song for this kid's cartoon. Like I don't know,
maybe they couldn't get the rights maybe outon of the
time and re record.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well he didn't even so now this is this is
my brain doing what my brain does now because now
you're thinking about there to be Stupid?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
His cover of George of the Jungle appeared on the
soundtrack to the George the Jungle movie in nineteen ninety seven.
One of the other tracks on this album, This is
the Life, appeared in the film soundtrack Johnny Dangerously in
nineteen eighty four, and then did Dare to Be Stupid
the title track famously in Transformers the movie in nineteen
(47:18):
eighty six or seven.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I believe something like that. And so.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
This having to be re recorded by other people for
a Scooby Doo direct to video movie doesn't make sense
to me. But I am also not in the record business.
I don't know how any of this works. But the
fact that there were three other songs from this that
(47:51):
were used for movies, they that right, I'm like, you know,
because weird All didn't record Dare to be Stupid four Transformers.
He didn't record George of the Jungle for George of
the Jungle. I think he did This is the Life
for Johnny dangerously and then put it on this album.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
But yeah, and then I don't think they ended up
using uh, using This is the Life for it.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
It's on the soundtrack, like there's movie clips in the
video for This is the Life. But like, I don't,
I just I don't. I don't know, So I will say,
listeners of the.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Beer Dob podcast.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
You you can find slime creatures from outer space from
the soundtrack of Scooby Doo and the Alien Invaders if
you search hard enough on the internet, if you decide
to do that, if you decide to Scooby do that,
please let me know what you think of it, because
(48:53):
it's not better than this by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know, you know what it is like, It's so
I don't know. If you were familiar with kids Bop, I.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Am familiar with Kids Pop.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, so the way that kids Bop was always advertised
is it was these kids making like clean covers of
pop songs, but you would go to buy the CD
and it would always be some like forty year old
guy as the lead singer with the kids' is back
(49:32):
backing vocals. This is almost what that sounds like, except
for the kids in the background. Like it's just weirdly
produced and it sounds like they just kind of threw
it together.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
It's like kids Bop, Kids Bop? Uh, weird, Now that's weird.
We don't need that.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, we did not know.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
So I feel like we've done a lot of complaining.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Over the course of this episode in general, and I'm
warning people the next several episodes of this show are
going to have some complaining. I've got Lily Hirsch coming
on to talk about girls just want to have lunch.
I don't have it scheduled yet, but he's agreed to
do it, so I'm going to announce it.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Jeff one of the producers of the Titan Nerdy documentary
about the Weird Now burlesque troupe, and also just like
the guy who answers Al's fan.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Mail is just like right, he's gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Jeff is super cool. He's been on the show before
to talk about his documentary, and now he's gonna finally
do a regular ass episode with me, which.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I think is sweet.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
And I don't have anybody else lined up for the
rest of it, so I don't know. I'm gonna force
Russ to rolland for something on the side too, of
dare to be stupid because he can't get off that easy.
You know, you can't be married to me and not
have to talk about these things at some point. So
absolutely complicated, right right, I mean that he knew what
(51:07):
he was getting into. So I think all we have
left to do is rate these two tracks on a
scale of one to twenty seven. So I'm going to
go first for each I'll give my George of the
Jungle number, then you yours, Then I will give my
Slime Creature's number, and then you yours. George of the
(51:28):
Jungle gets a ten from me because it is a
very competent and passable cover of the nineteen sixty seven
children's cartoon theme song.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
But I don't understand why it's.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Here, all right, Uh, I'm going to give it a
I'm going to give it a five.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, oh wow, you're harsher greater than I am.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
I'm going to give it a five because I don't
know why it's here. It shouldn't be here, and it's
it's fine, but it's it's like, it's not one that
I'm ever coming back to unless I absolutely have to.
And you know, so, I mean, yeah, it's just not
(52:15):
what I go to Weird Else music for.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I'm here for that. I love. That's that's really good.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
I felt like I was being like really harsh with
the ten, so like here you go. Noah'm just like
what whacking them down? That's great. I mean, I know
how I grade though, So this is Mike. This has
got like the Laren curve on it. So if any
of my students are listening to this, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I'm great, pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
And so then Slime Creatures from Outer Space on my
scale of one to twenty seven, I'm going to give
it a If George of the Jungle is a ten,
I'm going to give Slime Creatures a seventeen because, like
I said, I think there's a lot going on with it. Instrumentally,
I think it's very very complex, and I think it
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shows his band at their full power at the time,
doing some really really.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Entertaining and funky things.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I just don't think that there's enough in the song
to really grab onto to make it like a weird
al classic.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
It's subject matter is vague at best, you know, so
like while I can picture it's I don't find it
super compelling, you know, And so that's why it's.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Getting a seventeen okay.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I so I am I'm also kind of putting it
if this might not be fair, but I'm like also
putting it up against like nature, trail hell and attack
at the radio active hamsters from the planet near Mars,
just because it's that because.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
I'm it's that ILK. I get it.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
It's that ILK, and so so I don't like it
better than any of those, so I'll probably I'll trail
you a little bit and probably give it a sixteen
okay of twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's totally fair and that makes complete sense. I'm already
like proud of myself with there to be stupid that
I haven't painted myself into a corner like I did
on in three D.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Where I was like everything's twenty two or better because
it's a weird No.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
It's like, no, look it, I've created a new baseline
here and this is where we are.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
So we did it.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
We talked about Georgia of the Jungle and Sime creatures
from outer space. We have kicked off side too of
the Dare to be Stupid deep.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Dive and.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Noah, yes, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
I know I see that. Yeah, we don't worry that.
That frenzied I'm here, I'm here is because we had
a little internet spinny thing happened. But guess what, still here. No,
thank you for being here to talk about these things.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
You're You're welcome here whenever you like. I'm sure you'll
be on to talk about something on the Polka Party
album because that's what's gonna come up next after it
to be Stupid. So you know, those of you listening along,
that's how things are going. Uh, that's where we'll be.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
That's how it's gonna go.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
It is the natural progression of things as life, as
life happens. So so Noah, you talked about your YouTube
and your your Twitter.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's what I'm calling it.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Still about all things reality TV at the beginning. I
will do my best to put links in the show notes.
Uh so anybody who wants to check any of that
stuff out can easily access it there. And we're gonna
come at you the show in h two weeks with
the girls. Just want to have lunch. Like I said
(55:53):
with Lily Harsh, who has written the weird Al Seriously,
she's she's the author of a book about Weirdel that
weird Al you know knows about and was like instrumental
in making happen. And that if you get the expanded edition,
I'm featured in the afterward. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I have it, you have it.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
There you go ide, that's great. See, this is one
of those things, right you try hard enough, you get
your name printed in books about Weirdell.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Absolutely, so that's the dream.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
I've peaked, but no, honestly, like also, just just knowing
you and being able to call you a friend is
another thing for me that has absolutely made doing this
show a great pleasure of my life. So thank you
for always being here and always commenting on the episodes
as they come out, because I look forward to that
(56:53):
just as much as I look forward to putting the
episodes out in the first place.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Well, I appreciate that I have said this many times,
but I love the podcast. I love what you're doing
because again, I am a guy that's all about community,
and I think anything that is enhancing the community and
encouraging conversation is something that should be valued. So I
(57:20):
very much appreciate what it is that this podcast does.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Oh, thank you, And on that extremely complimentary of me
note I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Edit sold.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
No, thank you so much for being here and being awesome.
All right, everybody will see you next time.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Bye bye.