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May 9, 2025 42 mins
The Beer’d Al Podcast is back with the second installment of our Polka Party album series, and this week we’re diving headfirst into the caffeinated chaos of “Dog Eat Dog”! Lauren and Russ are joined by none other than Jim Elek, the fearless and fabulous admin of the Close Personal Friends of Weird Al Facebook group.

Together, we unpack the deliciously bizarre brilliance of this Talking Heads-inspired track, discuss corporate life in the ‘80s (and beyond), and ponder the eternal question: How much coffee is too much coffee? There are laughs, deep cuts, and of course, beers. Come for the “Dog Eat Dog” discourse, stay for the delightful detours.

Grab your mug, fire up the copy machine, and let’s get weird!

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
I would like to welcome everybody to be Beer dot Podcast,
the podcast about two of the greatest things in the world,
Beer and weird Al and Boy We've got it. Yes,
we've got a doozy over here today people, because it's
track two of Polka Party, which is donkeyat Dog and
Boy Good Howdy? Are we excited to talk about it?

(00:55):
Russ is here as usual. Ish, Hello, Ish, Ish.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I look over there and I say, this is my
beautiful wife, get it.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Because it's you did a thing, hooray.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And then we have somebody who If you spend any
time at all on the Internet in any spaces dedicated
to weird Al, particularly on yie old Book of the Face,
then you are probably familiar with a group that is
run and moderated by our dear guest here today. So Jim,
first of all, thank you for doing what you do

(01:32):
for the weird al fan community, and also thank you
for being here.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
You're welcome on both counts. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, this is super exciting. I uh so for for
for the folks who are listening. Jim runs the close
personal Friends of weird Al Facebook group, which is a
delightful and wonderful and weird space where like minded weird
al fans just share all of their weird al and

(02:01):
as somebody who moderates several other non weird out related
Facebook groups, it's it's a difficult task.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's like herding cats.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It is.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
It is sometimes, but we have a great group of
people are usually very supportive of each other, so the
admin aspect is actually fairly easy compared to some other groups.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, that's that's totally fair.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean what we have a We have a saying
on the show that weird al people are good people,
and by and large that does tend to be true.
This is also the part of the show where I
don't have too many guests anymore outside of myself, who
is legally obligated to have a beer on this show
because it's my show and it is the beerd Out Podcast.

(02:48):
So I have a beer that I would like to
talk about because I'm excited about it. If you, I
saw you had a bottle of something over there, So
if you'd like to let the world know what you're
drinking today as we talk about Dog Eat Dog.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Sure, I am drinking New Holland Dragon's Milk. This is
a beer made in Michigan. It is a barrel aged beer.
It really was one of the first to come out
in Michigan when the craft beer revolution started. But I'm
not drinking it out of the bottle. I'm drinking out
of my coffee mug with my name right on it.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's beautiful and big bold letters, so everyone knows it's yours.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's wonderful. That's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
We have a fun little story about Dragon's milk. Do
tell this part of this will mean nothing to anyone
except for Lauren who's met this person. But you know
the sized person, Chris Kimmel is.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, he's a tiny man.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
He's a much smaller person than I am. I am
six foot. He's probably at a guest five to four.
I am around three hundred pounds. He is probably half
of that. So you probably know where this Dragon's Milk
story is going. But when we were at his rehearsal
dinner for his wedding, we went over and they had like,
you know, bud light, Miller light on tap, and the

(04:02):
only other thing that they had on tap was Dragon's milk.
And I never tried. I'm never trying to be that
guy with someone to be like, do you know what
you're doing? Like, you know, I don't like when people
do that, you know, but he like he was like
on his like third one, and I was like, it's
the nicest way possible. I was like, I don't think
that you should be drinking that money with how Like again,
he had never in his life had anything outside of

(04:23):
like a bud light. So without oversharing on someone else's evening,
you can guess how the rest of that night went. Yes,
well there was like there was an easy forty minute
section of crying and have I ever told you guys
how much I love you? You know that type of thing,
and then that did It was not that after that.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
But yeah, so I gotta be careful.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, that is a great That is a great beer.
But every single time I see it, I'm always like,
oh boy, what is that like? And then yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Think around there. I don't know if they don't always
put it on the bottle, So I think.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
If I'm right, then I don't know if I should
be proud or ashamed of myself for knowing the ABV
of Dragon's mouth phone.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Oh here's right here, yeah yeah eleven, Oh look at
me go focus.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's great. That's a really good beer. Yeah, that's that's
a good one to have here, I am.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But that would have been back around the time when
it when it debuted to That's kind of what triggered
the memory when you said it was one of the
first Yah. Yeah, because we were I'm from Detroit originally,
so that was.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, yeah, we're going to hang out at the show.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
That's right. Yeah, Pineap.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Again, I know, which is crazy. I used to Uh.
I used to live within walking distance of Pineab so
I've seen like every show ever there.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
So it's great.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. So anyways,
you have an interesting beer there.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I do have an interesting beer. So I didn't buy this.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
We recently had a two day long Wrestlemanium party at
our house, as you do, you know, and as our
friends are all wonderful and they are firm believers in
the phrase what a beer laid is a beer played right,
Meaning I had a friend bring beer for herself to
drink to our party, and she put it in our

(06:18):
beer fridge, and this is one of the beers that
she did not drink at WrestleMania, and so it was
left in my beer fridge, and so that means it's
fair play for me now because it was in my house.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
It is a.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It is from Hidden Springs Ale Works in collaboration with
the Thirsty Tofer in Tampa, Florida, and it is a
sour called Manchild, and it is a peanut butter and
jelly sour with grape and BlackBerry. And I decided to
drink this while talking about Dog Eat dogg because it's

(06:54):
so there's one more jelly donut.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
They'll never miss it. And like the fact that, like.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
A friend left this beer in my fridge and I'm like, oh,
she'll never miss it. And I'll tell you what. Peanut
butter and jelly sours. I don't know if you're into
sours at all. They were the last style I developed
a palette for. Peanut butter and jelly sours are either

(07:22):
excellent and taste exactly like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Or terrible. There is no in between.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So I was a little nervous when I cracked this
open because I had not had it. But this is excellent,
so I'm excited. And it's a it's in a beer
glass with my show right on it.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oh there you go, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, so I think that covers the introductory portion of
our time here together. Next up is me talking about
some fun facts regarding the song. And I do very
extensive research insofar as I go to the weird al
Wiki fandom page and look at the trivia for the song.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
So that's one I would say, that's on my next
tab over see.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So yeah, so you're gonna know exactly what I'm talking
about here. I'm not gonna go through it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Just like you're like. I do very extensive research in
that I read what someone else did very extensive research.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Some of this is even like, okay, right.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
One thing that is interesting about this is the first
time I saw weird Out performed Dog Eat Dog live,
was on the Ridiculously self indulgent, ill advised Vanity Tour,
and he said, he goes, this is fun for me.
I usually have to wear a big, big coat when
I sing this song, and but not today. And yeah,

(08:43):
so the fun fact here is like he typically wore
like a David Byrne like oversized suit jacket when he
performed Dog Eat Dog. And so the next time I
saw him perform this song, because I have seen him
do No, no, I've never seen him do it in
the suit. Never mind, I'm wrong, but he was doing
all the like the arm choppy moves anyway. Still, so
that's weird Al for you. This next fact, a lot

(09:07):
of these are just kind of relating weird Al back
to talking Heads.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
But this is something that I did not know.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And now I'm gonna have to get my original copy
of Dare to Be Stupid down and take a look
at it, because apparently there's an inscription on the dead
wax of Dare to Be Stupid that reads more songs
about TV and food, which is making reference to the
talking Heads, more songs about buildings and food, and so
I have I'm looking because it's hanging on the wall
in this room because we have the Squeeze Box box sets,

(09:35):
so there's no need for my original copy of There
to Be Stupid anymore. So I'll have to take a
look at that. But yeah, then all the fun little
bits that weird Al shouts out in this song are
all like nods to specific talking Head moments, like They'll
Never Miss It is a reference to born under punches,
found a job at a great big office, maybe a
reference to the track found a Job. The utterance of

(09:58):
watch Me Work is a referen reference to the track
The Good Thing. And sometimes I tell myself, this is
not my beautiful stapler and all that stuff is obviously
once in a lifetime, and this is this next fact
like just makes me sad.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
If you're gonna if you're gonna read the one I
think you're gonna read. Just so you know, I've been
staring at that screen the whole time you've been talking,
and I've been ready to say as soon as you
finish it gross. Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, this is the only song on Polka Party to
be featured on the Essential Weird Al Yankovic Conversation.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, justice for Polka Party.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I feel that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I feel that. I feel that.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So Jim, Actually, I do have a question for you, like,
while we're here at the beginning, before we dive into
this song specifically as somebody as like deeply into the
weird al space as you are, what is your overall
opinion of Polka Party as an album?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Uh? Well, of those the early set of albums, like
I should say, right after you know, in three D,
which was the big one with eat It, it was
a little weaker but there are some gems in it,
of course, and Doggie Dog really is one of them.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I guess I can see both sides of Some people
are like you guys are obviously saying it's an underrated album,
and when some people and some people say it wasn't
all that great, I can I can kind of I
can kind of see both sides of that. And I
think a lot of the songs are maybe a little
more dated than some of the other songs in other albums,

(11:36):
but I still listen to it, so yeah, I mean
I could take it out of the rotation.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
No, that's that's a really great answer to it too.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And I feel similarly to you, like I I'm absolutely
like justice for Poka Party because there are so many
gems on it that people forget about.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
But I've been excited.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
To go through this whole album kind of uncover them
in new ways and have conversations with different people about
these songs. So I was so happy when you agreed
to be on to talk about Dog Eat Dog because
I'm like, look at I'm just it's just like a
riff with weird out people.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You see Russ is over here looking at the dead
wax on the day.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Sorry, yeah, it's there.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's there. Yep, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's plain as day. I owned this obviously, I owned
this record when I was a kid. It's right here,
you have an upside That's why I kept being like
what what? That's not right? But it's because I was
looking at an upside down you see it? But yeah,
I was. As you know, I bought Dirty Stupid like
that was the first new weird al album I bought.
And I bought it on vinyl the day I came in,

(12:36):
and I'm just shocked that I never noticed that as
a kid.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
So here we have it. Mystery solid everyone, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
So now we get into what, honestly, I think is
the most fun portion of this program, where we just
talk about the song. So Dog Eat Dog obviously is
a a pastiche or a style parody of the Talking
Heads basically their entire ouvra up until that time, but specifically,

(13:07):
I guess right, it's kind of riffing on and she
was once in a lifetime and stuff that I've already
already mentioned. So so Jim, I guess I'm gonna let
you kick it off with initial initial thoughts about Dogg
Eat Dog.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Well song came out, the album came out. I was
about thirteen or fourteen, so I had not had a
job in a great, big office or anything like that.
So those aspects were just stuff he saw on TV
and things like that. I was not a huge Talking
Heads fan. Of course. I was a fan of Burning

(13:43):
Down the House, their huge hit a lot of playtime
on MTV, and I was kind of aware of their
songs that David Burton was kind of a weird guy
or you know, had that appearance. So I didn't always
get all the Talking Heads reference. But I thought it
was a cool song, and you know, I talked a

(14:05):
lot of interesting things, you know, like having having your
own Scotch tape dispenser and uh, you know, whether you
have your beautiful stapler or not.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I think I want to say this is already the
most literal episode of I.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Know you've got like everything from the song, how what
what is your what is your paper clip?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Small animal?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh I'm not That's not my kind of art form.
So I didn't. I didn't bend any paper clips. I
would never be you know, I wouldn't get on Letterman
for something like that.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So you know, I had a lot of fun references,
you know, coffee with a carcinogenic sweetener. That might be
a little dated because he's referring to saccharin, but it
was a fun song for us, a fun melody and
way to go. And then when we did grow up
being my weird el friends and we got jobs in

(15:07):
a great, big office, it was you know, it was
a struggle to get your own scotch tape, the spenser
things like that.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, Like I totally hear what you're saying about.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Like subject matter wise, there's some stuff in this song
that is dated, especially in like a post COVID world.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh yeah, we don't have those office antics anymore, which
kind of makes me sad. But yeah, I mean so.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So the first time I saw this on the track
listing and stuff like dogg Eat Dog, I was like
a kid obviously and full on expecting a track about dogs,
like I was expecting, like a song about dogs. And
I didn't understand it either, like I because I had
no concept of what working in an office meant. I

(15:55):
didn't know what the word carcinogenic meant. You know, I
know any of these things, but this was always one
of those ones that I just found so incredibly catchy,
like right, this is a really really catchy song, and.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right, because it absolutely is.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I would argue that this is just as if not
more catchy than any like actual Talking Heads tracks, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Has has David Byrne ever talked about this song?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I not that I'm aware of. I mean everything every
artist has ever said about I'm music. You would think
if he said something either way, it would be something
that would be known in the community because I know
which artists are fans, which artists have turned them down,

(16:48):
you know, and things like that.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, we usually know, right, because the reason I
ask you about you know, So that's why I ask.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Because this song I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
But like this song and there to be Stupid are
in the same like mental Rolodex file for me because
there's such spot on style parodies of like eighties stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, sound agree. That's That's how I
feel about that. Russ. What are your initial thoughts on
Doggie Doug?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I mean, it's it's so good Like when I was
when I first bought Polka Party. I I, like any
other kid at that age, we had all heard burning
down the house and Once in a Lifetime because they
were of like MTV and radio stables, it was weird.
Once in a Lifetime was more of an MTV stable,
and burning down the House was more of a radio stable.

(17:41):
But all of us knew it, and so the only
thing that hit me at first was just like, well,
this is obviously the talking Heads, but to my knowledge
of Talking Heads only did like exactly one thing, you
know what I mean, Because like I knew Once in
a Lifetime more than anything, right, and this is like
very very solid. It it leans into once in a

(18:03):
Lifetime very hard. So as soon as the track started,
before the vocal even started, I was just like, oh,
I think I know what this is. And then as
soon as the vocal comes in, you're like, well that's yeah,
it's a David Byrne bit. You know, yeah, I like
it a lot. I mean, it was always something that
I like. I will say, it's not even right to
use the phrase grew on me, But years later, when

(18:25):
I became a much bigger Talking Heads fan, this started
to mean a lot more to me. The only the
only comparison I can make it to it is and
I've told you this many times. I don't know. I'm
sure I've mentioned it on the show. But when when
Cosmic Thing came out and I really got into the
Bee fifty twos and Channel Z is extremely close to

(18:52):
mister Popial on its own, but obviously Weird I was
not doing a style period of a song that was
that came out ten years after.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
As far as I know, he hasn't perfected time travels.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So that that made me go, Okay, well, that's obviously
not it. So the be fifty twos must have something
I don't know. And I went back in front rock
Lobster and was like, oh, right, right, right, right, right right.
So this was kind of that for me, like the
when I got into the Talking Heads, I went back
and listened to this more and started to love it
even more. Like I never there was never a point
where I just liked it, But the more I got
into the talking Head the more I love this song.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, that totally makes sense.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
And David Byrn, I know, he's never done it, and
he's never a very valid point that like if David
Byrn had like whispered the name of Weird now like
all of us would know about it, you know, I would.
He's and I mean, I'm going to use this word
in the highest complimentary way you can use this word.
David Byrn is such a goofy dude that it wouldn't
surprise me if he would just put this in a
Talking Head set or in like a solo set and

(19:46):
just like do it and not see if anyone notices
that it's not one of their songs.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Oh, I could see that. I could see that.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I mean, my head would explode if it happened.
But like I bet you, there are many Talking Heads
fans who would be like, oh, yeah, I've always loved
this song and we like you know you don't you know.
And he's the type of dude that that's why he
would do that.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
That's fairy, that's fair. I Uh. I did the thing
where I you know, I get to use this drop here.
Wait a minute, I'll go check. Just did some googling.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I wanted to know if David Burn or anybody in
the Talking Heads had said anything about Dog Eat Dog.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I'm in the weird al FORUIM.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now you should there's a really good Facebook page, you
know what I should?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I should ask them.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
And everybody's like, uh, nobody else from Talking David Byrne
nor the Talking Heads have said anything about Dog Eat
Dog And this was like somebody uh eleven years ago
posted that in a weird el for him and yeah
nobody so yes, as far as the weird elgmunity at

(21:00):
large is concerned, nobody from the Talking Heads have acknowledged
the existence of this song, which, okay, fine, whatever they're
missing out.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, I don't. I don't think that ever means no,
I know, like you know what I mean, No, I
I just I think sometimes, especially with a with a S,
I feel like a lot of times this stuff probably
never never crosses their desk, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Especially it's not one of his hits, you know, so
it's it's not like their fans would be asking about it.
Hey I heard this else, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna you know, I'm not going to do
it now because I don't have the time to dig
into this hole. But when when I have some downtime,
I'm going to dig into talking headspaces of the Internet
and see if any of them know about it.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I bet that's I bet that's some that's some water
to wait into.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I bet I bet it is. I bet it's really weird,
weird water.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
There's like a whole thing where if you mentioned the
Time Time Club, you'll get banned by some people. Oh
that's solo work on other forums get banned And yeah,
I mean not that I would know from being in
the gen R community forever, but you know, people get
sensitive over things. First, I kid you not. The first
music forum I ever went on in my entire life
was somewhere around like nineteen ninety five, Like we have

(22:14):
Prodigy and all that stuff before that, but I mean,
like the actual Information super Highway. Oh, very first post
I ever made on any music form, I had the
nerve to say that I like the Division Bell and
am used to death the latest Ping Floyd record and
the latest Roger Waters solo album, and literally got banned
by the admin. So just just be careful with that
when you go into talk.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh I'm not going to talk.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I'll say I'm bad.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, people say you're bad.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like again, you just maintaining you're trying to maintain some
sort of peace, you know. Yeah, the internet's a wild, wild,
wild place. So again, regarding the song Dog Eat Dog,
I feel like we would be remiss if we didn't
talk a bit about how spot on an amazing Al's vocal.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Is on this track. My opinion of it is that
it's what's the best way to say this.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's not like he's doing a David Byrne impression, but
he's almost singing as David Byrne if he were singing.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Does does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Well, he's not exaggerating it as an impression. He sounds
like him. Yeah, so yeah, I get it. It's it's
it's it's it's kind of hard. You're right, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
As I'm going to say a thing I've said on
your show many times. I'm probably thinking too much about this.
I envisioned this to be the guy the character who
is singing. The character is trying to sing like David Byrne,
not wear it. Al so like he's all excited about

(23:58):
his corporate life and he doesn't understand the college music
that he was just listening to, like is against everything
that he is. So he's like still trying to look
up to his hero David Byrne while singing this song
in the style of David Byrne about how all of
these things are important that would not be important to
David Byrne. And again, I always booke in my crazy
stuff with I'm probably thinking too much about that.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
It is deep. That is deep.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
That is deep. It is deep, you know what?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
On that deep note, I feel like, let's digest that
a little bit. I'm going to kick this over to
to a wee little ad break so we can pay
some bills for this show, because you know we're working hard,
right So and again.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I like that I broke the show. You're like, you
know what I need to You're going to come back
with a break and be like anyways.

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Speaker 2 (25:33):
What is happening.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Nothing. I'm giving myself a space so I know where
this is. I'm just being goofy.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, I was. I was, so, I was like, wait,
but this is different.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
No, well, well you see now I'm giving this.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is not your beautiful break.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
No, now I get an out take.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Right, each of us identify with one of the Golden Girls.
I'm Sophia, Aaron is Dorothy, Kristen.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Is Sweet Roads.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
And each week we'll have a guest sit in the
blanched bought the Naughty Seat, come join us on the
Lunai for some cheesecake.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Part of the Odd PUDs Media Network.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And we're back.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
They can't get back in that can. Yeah all right,
I'll never not think that's funny.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, it's always funny. I kind of like that. It's
how we come back from ad breaks on this show.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Now, I say this every single time, but we're gonna
have to go watch that Scotch right after the subject.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I know we have two things we need to watch
after this. I'm going to derail here for just a second.
Oh boy, not really. We have a YouTube channel, Jim.
If you didn't know, it's all about music, right, and
we recorded a video today about artists singing re recording
their own tracks in different a different language. Okay, so

(26:45):
obviously I mentioned Weird Nowt doing Jurassic Park of Japanese,
and we had the Beatles doing She Loves You and
I Want to Hold Your Hand in German.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
The whole video was inspired by the fact that we
recently bought a copy of David Lee Roth's solo album
Eataman Smile, where he recorded the entire album in Spanish,
and it is one of the greatest things every year.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, you could check that out right, But what we
need to go check out after this is because you
said you were going to check it out after we
recorded our videos, and you did. Peter Gabriel re recorded
two of his albums in German, and are you familiar
with the Peter Gabriel track Shock the Monkey.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh yes, Okay, imagine that song in German.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I should know how to say it in German, but
I don't.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
But that song is supposed to be in German. So
we're gonna listen to that shore after we're done here.
So to pile on to Russ's crazy from before the Break,
I too have some crazy regarding this song.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I have and nobody can tell me that I'm wrong
with this.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I have created in my head basically a head canon
that this song is part of. In my mind, there's
a three part thing that occurs Doggie Dog where it's
the eighties.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
The guy is super excited to be claiming the corporate ladder.
This is great, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
By the time the mid nineties roll around, he's disillusioned
and he's calling.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
In sick, Oh you've told me this.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, And then you know, he does that, he takes
his break, he has something happens, and then by the
time the the the twenty tens roll around, he's mission statement.
It's one guy in my mind, that's a triptich that's
a story over a decade.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think you are accidentally like supporting my theory because
people who are into the talking heads in that era
in college would be into like the calling and sick
is not. I don't think Colin in sick is yeah,
but it sounds like complain what I call complaint rocket

(28:59):
or stuff that came between grunge and like Creed and everybody.
There was just like nineteen ninety five to two thousand,
the year two thousand where everyone was just complaining in
their music. Sure, I want to be clear, it's it's
not grunge, Like grunge is not as complaining as people
say it is. But there was an era where all
rock songs were guys just complaining. And then that guy

(29:21):
would be old enough to look back by that time,
because when he was in college, Crosby Sales and Nash
he would have been too cool for that. But then
when he gets older he would look back on that,
and now he's trying to emulate them. So I think,
in my opinion, I think we should just shut the
internet down. I think we've just I think we've just

(29:42):
made a whole thing that I would love. I've told
you this before, like with no like oh man, but
I'd love to hear where like I would love to
hear where d all listen to? Just even that. I
would love to see it, just to see if he's like,
are you too dumb? Like you know what I mean,
like like or for him to be like, holy Rapp,
you're the guys that figured it out, right, I'm pretty sure.

(30:02):
I'm pretty sure it would be like are you too dumb?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
But like you know, I just want to know and
you would tell by his face, like even if he
was like, wow, you figured it out, you could be
you could look at his face and be like he
thinks braviot's you know.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Anyways, So in my opinion, your guy is the same guy. Yes,
but through the phases of his life, he's emulating the
things that he's listening to because those things are cooler
than him.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Mmmm.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Did we just put do we blow our own minds?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Just now?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well only for myself when I said I blow my.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Mate, Well, isn't it. Isn't there another fan theory that
all his like sad love songs, it's the same guys.
I've heard that too, Yeah, you know, having the same
problems with women or all these different problems with women. Yeah,
or himself or himself Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah yeah, that's also very very true.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Like and you gotta wonder, you really got to wonder,
just like like Russ said, like if if I you know,
if I talk to al and like I take my
one moment to basically be like, so here's my thing,
dog eat dog calling in sick mission statements.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Same guy, one big story. Would he look would he
look at me and do that thing where he goes, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Or what.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I'm pretty sure that's fine and that's all right. Well
you know what, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah. So is there anything about dogg Eat Dog? Because
I feel like we gotta be fair with this discussion.
You know, we're talking about like what's good about and
I feel like musically it's absolutely like Russ said, I
could see the talking heads like whipping this out and
like point playing it just to see if anybody noticed
or any you know, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Is there anything that doesn't quite work or sit right
with this song for either review?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Mm?

Speaker 4 (31:58):
No, I mean, like you said, I mean it's a
product of its time. It's eighties corporate life. So you know,
now looking back, jeez, are we talking almost forty years later?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah we are.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, look it back forty years later.
It seems a little dated, but that's the way it
was back then.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
So if what would a twenty twenty five Dogg Eat
Dog look like?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Oh, it would be it'd be about your home office, Yeah,
and your cat jumping on your keyboard or something.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, it would be. It would be about how many.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Da something like this. It'd be your your camera and
your headset.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I was just going to say, I think they'd be
having amount of like zoom meetings and stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
You're not being on mute or or it would be
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
The terrible life of an influencer, of being an influencer. Oh, which,
by the way, is I cannot stand that word. I know,
me neither, mostly for the people that have ruined it,
like the people that are considered influencers. I don't like them,
like you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, yes, I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, it's cheap and the word influence.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
No, I toltally I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, Or how many days in a row can you
go without wearing real pants?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I mean so far, I'm up to probably about one thousand.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So the only issue that I have with this song
is something that would not be easily rectified at all
at that time. And I also don't know if it
would work. But when I first heard it, I never
this never crossed my mind because again I only knew
so much of the talking heads. Years later, when I
learned so much more of the talking heads, I wish

(33:47):
that this was I mean this, this is pretty much
a straight on nod to h once in a lifetime
in many ways. And even by then, the Talking Heads
had like a lot of different sounds. Sure, and I
wish that there was at least one gear shift in
the song that like went to a different style. But
the reason why I say I don't know if that
would work is number one, he didn't have the ability

(34:10):
at that time that he would eventually have, like like
he could have never pulled off Genius from France at
that time, because he could, it would have been like
a Zappa genre, right, Whereas like he waited to do
this Zappa thing until he could cover all of them
get one. Yeah, yeah, as you know, Greg Googolimoogly. And
not only do I think that at that time, nobody

(34:31):
from a record label would have been like, yeah, keep
doing that. Sure changed you know, no one, no one's
going to get this, so keep that up, you know.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
And then also again I think maybe people like me
at the time would have been like, I don't know
why it changed to a holy because it took me
like another ten years to get the rest of the
talking Ants right. So and that's like a whole twenty
twenty thing for me. So it's not even a valid complaint, really,
it's not even a complaint. It's just a thing that
when I listened to the song, I always wish that
it had like a little of something else that they

(35:01):
do as well.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I get that, I get that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But to be fair, one of your biggest complaints also
about weird Al music is how disjointed the plumbing song is.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh for sure. Yeah, well, I mean that's that's a
whole different.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's a whole different can of worms. Yeah, a different
can of worms.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, I mean so, like again, Doggy Dog, top notch,
top notch weird outtrack. I feel like it's it's unfortunate,
in my opinion, that more people don't know about this beautiful,
beautiful song.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's because the album is criminally underrated.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Hmm. It's one of the bright spots of the album.
I mean it's all you know, it's almost better than
I think it's better than the lead.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Track, so oh yeah, yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
It is like if I take a look at Poka
Party as a whole, Like, this is absolutely one of
my one of my favorite songs on it. Yeah, yeah,
I love this. I love this song so so very much.
But I mean, I don't know, we don't need to
belabor any points. Jim, did you have anything further you
wanted to add about Doggie dog?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Do you feel like you.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
And I think I think we've used it up. I've
used all my props, so.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yes, they're perfect for the audio medium that this is right.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
You know it would have been It would have been
even better if he didn't have the props and we
just acted like he did. Oh my god, you know
when he's beautiful. Yeah, we're like, oh, good one. You know, well,
actually could have faked the paper clip thing.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Oh you could have. We could have sat here in awe.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, that's what I'm saying. Don't even say something of specific.
He could have been like, well I do this. We
could have been like, oh, that's the most beautiful. You
should we should you should go back and drop this
into that part.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh my gosh, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Well we have so the setup of the room that
we're in right now, and I promise this is going
somewhere related to the song is my work office is
on the other side of this room, and the podcast
stuff is on this side of this room. So I
roll my office chair over from one side of the
desk to the other, and he rolls his office chair
from his office into.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Here to do this entirely different room, which I think
deserves credit.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's true. That's a lot of effort there. So we
were recording our YouTube videos earlier and his chair was
in this spot and my chair was over there. But
because I take the lead on this, because this is
my podcast, I had to switch chairs and my.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Brain I was literally like, this is not my beautiful chair.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
So with that, then the last thing that we have
to do here is give the track a rating on
a scale of one to twenty seven. And that can
mean whatever you want it to mean. You know, it's
a it's a wide range, I admit, but you know
we have to respect the twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
With that said, I'm going to give this song a
twenty seven because I got no problems with it. This
is one of my favorite tracks on Poka Party and
there will be no changing my mind about that.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Jim, would you like to go?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I would say I hate giving specific numbers, but you
know it's it's definitely in the high twenties, maybe twenty four. Okay,
I'll take it, because, like I said, you know, you
just said it. I said, it's one of the brighter
spots of the album.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, I like that. On twenty four, I'll give it
so twenty seven to twenty four, Russ.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I'll go twenty six. Okay, we're removing a point for
no reason whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Okay, So now this means that I have to do
the thing. We've got. Twenty seven plus twenty four plus
twenty six divided by three is twenty five and two thirds.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So that is our official rating of this song between
the three of us present on this call today. So
I feel like we can wrap it up. Jim, is
there anything that you'd anybody, anything you'd like to shout out?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Say thank do.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
At the end, I would just say, if you're on Facebook,
check out close personal friends of weird Al.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'll link it in the show notes.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Okay, great. I did not create it, but I am
the caretaker now and it's it's the people who make
it great. I post very little, so come and join us.
You'll see things, see and hear things you've never heard before.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
That's a fact. That's a fact. And the post about
this episode is one of the things that you can
see in that group. Because I'm surely going to share
it in there. Sure, Russ, anything you want to do?
I know, I know you know, but did you want
to know?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I just if nothing else. We always have the Infectious
Group of Music YouTube channel. Three videos every week. We
do stuff that vinyl review videos and reaction videos and
then our fun music discussion videos. And it's all positive
because there's way too much negativity.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And if you made it this far and you are
a close personal friend of Al, check out the Infectious
Group Music YouTube channel, because a couple of months ago
I did a video about.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
What's so great about John Bermuda Schwartz.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Talking about you have your interview with the director of
the movie.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh, that's right, My interview with Eric Appel is on there.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
We've done We've done quite a bit of weird action
yeah and stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah yeah, so we got weird al all the time
twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Right, that's how to say that, as it should be,
as it should be.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And on that note, this has been the Beer Al podcast.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
We're gonna come at you again in two weeks, uh
with Addicted to Spuns and we have a repeat offender
who we haven't recorded it yet, but I'm going to
announce it anyway. We have Ian Globinger who is one
of the creative creative He's the creative director for the
Roosevelt's shirt brand that we love so very very much

(41:13):
here in this house. So if you like fun, ridiculous,
loud pop culture shirts, stay tuned to that because Ian's
a cool guy. And he actually did a custom drawing
of weird Al from the Fat video for me that
is presently hanging in my living room. So I have
an original piece of weird Al art from a very
very good artist that I literally just got a frame

(41:36):
for it last week, so I'm very pleased with it.
But with that, I will see you again next time,
and stay weird, be awesome, and be nice to everybody.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Bye.
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