UHF's Got Character - Exploring the Ensemble Cast

While we're taking a break between sides on Dare to Be Stupid, we're gonna stretch our legs a little bit for the holiday season.

Today is a fun one! Russ & Lauren are joined by Ian Glaubinger to discuss UHF (and other things!). We're going to dig into some of the more minor characters in the film--you know, the ones that have amazing moments but aren't George or Stanley. 

Ian's bio:
Professional doodler specializing in limited edition screen prints, posters and apparel. I'm an art director and production designer for apparel company; The Roosevelts (RSVLTS) where I create licensed and unlicensed designs. In addition to creating over-the-top apparel, I've also worked with companies like Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Nickelodeon, WB, Pixar, Cartoon Network, Fox, Toho, Universal, NHL, NFL and so many more. If you dig pop culture, Tiki vibes and Americana; boy are you in for a treat.

If you want to see some more of Ian's work, check it out! (Our friend Al is familiar with it!)
Instagram
Twitter/X
Bluesky

Beer'd Al is a very well-dressed member of the OddPods Media Network.

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/beer-d-al-podcast--5439475/support.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:36):
All right, everybody, welcome to yet another episode of the
beard Ol Podcast. Is the podcast about two of the
greatest things in the world, beer and weird out. And
I'm Lauren. I'm always here, and uh We're gonna have
some fun today because this is just a random, fun
conversation about a topic that's near and dear to all
of our hearts and so Russ is here as semi usual.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hello, I am. I like to think of myself as
the world's foremost authority on UHF because I'm always the
only person on any UHF episode who saw it when
it premiered in the theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, so I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Kind of a big deal, you are kind of everyone
else was in the other room seeing Batman, but I
saw UHF first.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And that's why I married you. And we have somebody
who who has not been on this show before, but
is near and dear to our hearts and closets in
a lot of ways. First of all, Ian, welcome, Thank
you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, and I feel like, since you know you're generally
the people that come on this show are either podcasters
or somebody who does that more often than the other
than the cool stuff you do, Like right here at
the beginning, tell the people listening to the beard ob podcast,
like like, you do awesome things, and I think it's

(01:57):
I think it's pretty amazing. You drew a weird al
and that's what made me ask you to even come
on the show in the first place.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
So yeah, so you know, you guys, welcome me on
the show. And the first thing I see, I know,
for the this is not video, but for the use
it you guys at home, Russ is wearing a Roosevelt shirt.
And that was the first thing I noticed because it's
what my eye is drawn to. I'm a designer art

(02:23):
director for the Roosevelts, and you know, I'm just I'm
the tiki guy. I've done lots and lots of shirts.
Beyond that, it's getting close to one hundred designs that
I've done for Roosevelts. I've been designing for them since
twenty nineteen, and I went full time with them in

(02:45):
December of twenty twenty one. And long before that, I've
been a freelance illustrator working for all the company same
with Roosevelts, doing all the licenses. I'm the mid century
cartoony guy. Yeah, everything steeped in eighties and nineties culture,
but kind of in a fifties sixties you know, or forties,

(03:10):
fifties and sixties aesthetic. You know. Yeah, that's what I do.
It's what I love to do. But also, you know,
the reason I'm on the show is because you know,
you saw the weird out thing, and even though I
love that fifties and sixties style, I you know, maybe
I'm not old enough, but I am an eighties kid.

(03:33):
You know, I was born in eighty two, so really
I didn't like come online until like the late eighties.
So Russ, you saw it in the theater and you
said everyone else was watching Batman. Well I was seven,
and I don't think I was seeing either of those,
so yeah, I wasn't shown. Honestly, I can't tell you
when the first time I saw UHF. It was definitely

(03:54):
on VHS. It was definitely probably with my friend my
you know, one of my oldest friends and best friend, Russ.
Not you, but my Russ. We used to just watch everything,
you know, every Friday night. It was just you know,
cram as much as he can on BHS, and I
don't know where he had heard of it, he's the
same age as me. He had he has he had

(04:15):
an older brother, Doug, who three years older, so maybe
he knew about it. But even before that I knew
who weird Al was. I think the first time I
was introduced to weird Al, whether I knew it or not,
was probably the Transformers movie because he's got there to
be stupid in it. I didn't know it was him.

(04:36):
It was just a song that I knew. And then
as I got older, when I kind of went back
and started listening to weird Al, I was like, Oh,
that's that guy, that's that song. So you know, that
was kind of my entry way into weird Al. And
I think the first album that I ever had by
him was on cassette. Oh hang on, I'm getting a

(04:57):
spam call.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Sorry about that spam in the place where you live.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh yeah, that's on the soundtrack for this movie.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, So the first album I had was the It
was a I think it was a best of cassette
where Al is like scrunched up into the shape of
the like the cassette that like, I've got.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I've got that cassette over on my bookshelf. Yeah, that's
the greatest.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, so that I remember very vividly owning that
and listening to it and like you know, being in
car rides whether I could even listen to it because
whether I had a walk by or not, I would
just bring that with me because I felt like an
adult because I you know, weirdly, I didn't. Uh that's
kind of late bloomer to music. I know, that's a

(05:51):
weird thing. I know, very vividly, not like showing an
interest in like I guess what people consider real music
until like seventh or eighth grade in my life. But
way before that, I was like into weird Al and
it was like my I had an older sister who
was like very in touch and very in the know

(06:13):
and very cool about music. So it's like I didn't
have anything, so like weird Al was like, look what
I have? I know music. So the the comedian Brian
Hosain like very relatable to me. He always has the
bit of when you know, when his he's gonna play
weird Alt for his kid first, so that when his
kid grows up and goes to a party and here's

(06:34):
Michael Jackson to be like, this guy's ripping weird al
Low like that that was me. You know, yeah, I
knew who Michael Jackson was, but like I like weird
al more.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, And I think so you found a good
pair of people to have a really good conversation about
weird al with and about UHF with for darn Shore
and you know, for those of you who are our
regular listeners to this this program, we have talked about
UAHF quite a bit, but we're gonna try and do

(07:06):
something you know that we're gonna come at it from
an angle that we haven't come at it before yet.
The beginning of the show, we're just gonna kind of
do our general thoughts general. I've got some fun facts
about the about the film that I think i'd like to,
you know, share with the group and kind of get
our reaction to, because I find some of them to
be quite entertaining and quite interesting. And then on the

(07:28):
flip side of the ads, we're each going to talk
about some of the uh smaller bit characters that we
find interesting, uh because we've talked so much about you know,
George and Terry and Stanley and all of that. But
then there's there's folks that it's like, wait a second,

(07:49):
it's the ensemble that really makes the movie. So we're
gonna highlight those a bit.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well to interrupt. I realized in my long winded self introduction,
I didn't tell you why I'm on the show. You
mentioned it, but the thing that I had done a sketch.
I do these like private sketch commissions, and it's whatever
people want within the normal realm of like don't make
me draw you, don't make me draw your kid or ye,

(08:17):
your dog, like just pop culture. Let me trust and
someone custody weird out, so you know. And it's funny
that in my flailing, failing social media presence that nothing
somethings get like twenty likes, and for whatever reason, anytime
I do weird out, it like kind of not like astronomical,

(08:38):
but like, oh I didn't think. I didn't think I'd
get any likes for this, and then it ends up
getting way more than I thought. And then right before
that one which built the scheme for that that commission,
I think it's what inspired someone to get that commission
was I was asked by h I have you know,
we're not on video, but I have it to beside.
Here's a there's a video still or called Outpost video

(09:03):
five twelve or Outpost five to twelve video. You guys
can see it. But they had asked they had it's
a gallery slash video store in Austin, Texas or in Texas.
Uh to say Austin is strange because Texas is very big,
So I'm not going to aim it's near, uh says

(09:24):
Taylor Texas. So if you if anyone's listening, you know
you'll wherever that means. But uh, off point, they do
this gallery show where they ask artists to draw a
VHS cover and it's whatever they want, and they send
these blank you know, you guys can see it.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's a blank it's an actual VHS cassette cover.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, and it's got a blank white space. And they
asked draw what excuse me? Draw whatever you want as
long as it's a movie that was in fact on VHS.
And I know the poster gallery scene and I know
this type of scene. And when you ad someone to
do a VHS cover, it's five hundred blade runners, five

(10:05):
hundred robocops. Uh, it's you know the thing. It's stuff
like that, and it's all serious, guys, and you know,
if your view viewers haven't realized it from this point
or your listeners haven't realized at this point my stuff
is not realistic. It's very cartoony. Yeah, uh And I
wanted the VHS tape that was one something that I

(10:27):
loved and two something that it was related to my style.
So it was between a toss up between the original
Ninja Turtles movie and uh UHF. So in the end
I ended up choosing u HF because because there's nothing
out there for it, or there's not enough out there
for it artwork and there's and you know, Ninja Turtles

(10:48):
is my favorite thing ever, but trust me, there's no
one's no one's gonna miss it. There's there's plenty of
Ninja Turtle stuff, so there's not a lot, not enough
v or UHSTU. And part of the thought processes, I
want to make sure a piece sells, so having uniqueness
may help, and it didn't. It was an original as
a hand drawn so it's sold. I'm sure we can

(11:11):
put a link to it. So if your listeners want
to see it after.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I might, even I might even if
you don't mind, I might make that one of the
key visuals for this episode itself.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, you guys, will.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting you bring that up, because
I didn't really I've never really thought about it. But
I mean, I know the movie poster is the same
as the album cover is the same as the VHS.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Cover was, but TV with his face with his last.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And uh I never really thought about how fitting that
cover art is for the film. Like outside, the only
other thing I think they could have done for the
film is and this would have been lame. Is like
a collage of the parodyff like Rambo and Indiana Jones
and stuff, just so people are like, yeah, this is
a collash of like yeah, so that's a whole different thing.

(12:01):
Europe poster, Yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Have you guys seen have you guys seen it?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm scrolling through right now because I did.
I did see it, but I'm trying to find it
to show rest. But I have on the back of
the door here the the European movie poster for the
UHF film. And in Europe and Australia and stuff, the

(12:27):
movie was put out as the Vidiot from UAHF because
UHF wasn't a thing that made sense as a term
outside of the United States. So but the poster for
it outside of the US is very much like it's weird,
Al kind of tipping his glasses up, and it's just
a bunch of TV screens with the Indiana Jones, you know,

(12:49):
riff On at the Dire Straits, riff On at the
Rambo riff On. It's just it's very straightforward. There's the
weird now, Okay, I'm getting close. I'm getting real close.
But while I'm looking at finding this, I I did
want to cover some of the fun facts that I

(13:10):
found about the film. I found it. So he's looking
at it now. So I love this fact, and I
think I've mentioned it before, But these are just some
things that amuse me about the film itself. So for
the shot of the Spatulist City billboard, the production team
actually bought a billboard on a remote stretch of highway
and for months afterwards, drivers taking that exit would ask

(13:31):
nearby businesses about spatual the city and that they had
to finally take the billboard down because the businesses that
kept getting asked about Spatualist that he complained.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's fantastic, that's great.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, people probably saw the ad and wanted to take
advantage of the sale.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, you know you did the ninth one for just
one penny.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, you by nine get to get the tents for
just one penny.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Sorry, but yeah, yeah, I found it and I showed
him and that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I like the channel line up at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, like I thought, remember the old channels where you
would just the preview channels and would just scroll through
the it was you know, it's not exactly like that,
but the movies. What makes the movie so memorable is
all the different TV shows, and I knew I wanted
to include that in some way.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, I think it's super important. And speaking of the
different TV shows, here's something that may make you feel
some sort of way when you watch UACHEF. Real fish
were attached to the wheel of fish. They were bought
at a local fish market early one morning, and the
set designer began attaching them to the wheel around six am,

(14:38):
making sure that the wheel spun smoothly. Filming started at
four thirty PM on a hot summer day in a
building that wasn't air conditioned, filled with the hot studio lights.
In over one hundred extras on the DVD commentary for
Uajef weird Out described the filming conditions as quote ripe.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I can't even imagine that, like and that's something that
like today, I don't even think would even be in
the discussion, like you know what I mean, if somebody
said they were going to do that, I think there
would be like seventeen different commissions that would be like no,
you know what I mean, Like I don't think it's
a thing that would be allowed.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
So look old I'm an old man. But like they
were dead, right, bro, No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I totally yeah, yeah no, it wasn't like they were
just flopping around on the wheel until they already y yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah,
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Right, I mean people live to complain, but oh.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, that's my thing is I figured like somebody would
complain until.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I just thought that was amazing. And so then in
another scene, George and Bob are discussing the television lineups
at the UHF station, and one show is called Volcano
Worshippers Hour. And that's particularly amusing because in high school,
weird Al started a Volcano Worshippers club just to get

(15:57):
a picture in the yearbook.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I just watched the movie yesterday just as a refresher
and when him and George are going through or when
George is going through all the different new shows, when
they're like when they're big the bottom right last show
and I can't remember specifically, but it was something like

(16:22):
Beast Reality Hour, and I'm like, oh man, I missed
that one.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I feel like, at some point I'm going to do
an episode of the show that is just a deep
dive into all the TV show titles that you miss
because they happen so quickly, because there's just so much
that's in there that you know. It doesn't get a
lot of screen time because it goes by so fast
cause your focus on everything else.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I think it's the first Wayne's World movie, but there's
a bit in it where Wayne is like, we were
going to be on at our ten thirty hour, but
it was like Sewing World wanted it, and.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
So that's Wayne's World.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Is it too? Okay?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
You may notice that we're on a bit earlier because
they're gonna go see Arrowsmith and like it was like
neo Nazi someone Yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I like where he's like, we were able to get
them to switch with White Supremacy World, and so it
all worked out.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what that's what I think of it,
like when I when I saw that in which it
turns out Wayn's World too, which is ironic that I
didn't think of that, because I like Wayn's World two
better than the first one.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm like the only person on the planet that likes
the second one better than the first one.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
But no, that's not true. I don't like the first
one more than the second one. They're just one awesome movie.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Uh but uh I love them both dearly.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, there's they're they're very very good. But I uh,
when I saw that in Wayne World, I instantly thought
of back. I mean it was only a couple of
years later, but I instantly thought about that in UHF
when they're because if you that's as soon as you
get a VHS copy, even with the lower resolution of VHS,
that's a thing to like, pause, look at.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Clearly you guys are fans of the movie. Stay tuned. Yeah, wait, Lauren,
you give me a dumb found to look like you
don't even know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm a little lost, and that's okay.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Which is okay. It's fine. I'm not that guy who's like,
what do you mean, no.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Thank you for that. I'd kick you off the show
right now if you were.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Stay Tuned was a movie in the I think it
was the early nineties. John Ritter, you know Three's company.
He's obsessed with TV and you know, he's a couch potato.
He's he's stuck at home. I think he lost his
job beginning of the movie, and then the literal devil
portrayed by Jeffrey Jones, the dad from a Beetlejuice, comes

(18:47):
to his door and says, have I got a deal
for you and sells him a like a TV entertainment center.
But he's the devil, and the TV is supposed to
like suck you in, and so all the it's called eight,
like they call like HTV, you know, hell TV or
the that's their MTV knockoff in the show or in

(19:08):
the movie. But all the move all the channels, he
just keeps going clicking through them, and it's like Dwayne's Underworld,
you know, all the shows are like skewed, bad or Evil. Yeah,
and it honestly, Stay Tuned it's not in the same
I love UHF, I don't laugh out loud at movies.

(19:30):
I just I think they're funny. UHF makes me giggle
out loud, and Stay Tuned doesn't. But I love it.
But it belongs in that same conversation. It's that same vibe.
It's not a parody like you, it's not like bonkers
like UHF is, but it's in that same vicinity.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
In some way. It's been It's been at least a
decade maybe too since I've seen it. But a loose
descriptor I would give you is it's if Pleasantville was
honey oh oh, so like where they where you're like
in you know that person.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Jump, Yeah, John Riddard jumps from like if he once
he gets sucked in, it's like, oh he's in the
Old West. Oh he changed. They find the remote. Now
he's a cartoon. It's like an evil Tom and Jerry.
Or it's like, uh a TV movie of he sucked
into the French Revolution, or a black in the White
noir where he's talking and he's like, wait a minute,

(20:29):
why do I hear my voice? What is like an
old like we gotta get him? So like yeah, it's
very much of its time, and it's and I love
it and it's Eugene Levy in it, John Ritter, I
forget the woman who plays the plays his wife. But
it's fun. I give it a watch. I'm planning on

(20:49):
it now. It won't it won't make you upset. It's
a fun movie.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
It won't make you upset.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
That's what it's like.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Lights right.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
We just watched Wild Hogs the other night. I had
never read.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That the biker movie. Yeah, like John.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Before I pushed play because I had seen it and
she had. I was like, it's not the greatest film
ever made, but it's inoffensive and it's a fun time,
you know, Like.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's that I've seen it. That was that. Robin Williams too, No.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
William H. Macy, Rris Travolta, Martin Lawrence. Yeah, and Tim
Allen and William H. Macy is the reason to watch
the movie. He's just hilarious in the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm good for movies that I
won't that won't make me mad, won't make me upset.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
It's light all right. So I interrupted, No.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, I've got I've got three more little tidbits.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Pam Dauber was the wife in Tuned from Mark and Mindy.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
So it's like seventies sitcom Royalty in the I'm Down movie.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I'm Down for it. I love I love John Ritter.
I'm like, I'm like personally shocked at myself that this was.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Not yeah he did just Hollywood squares.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Just Hollywood squares. Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
People like that. They're like, well, I've never even heard
of that movie.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, now it's I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
We're gonna for free.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I found out it's on Tooby for free.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I mean, I own it on the on the digital
video disc. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Here's a fun fact. And that was I didn't even
segue that one, and I don't even care.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, you know what.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Weird Al wanted to use the song Kung Fu Fighting
for the scene with Uncle Harvey in the pool. They
could not afford the rights to the song Kung Fu Fighting.
So that's why weird Al wrote let Me be Your Hog.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
When I when that movie first came out, I was like, oh, wow,
what is this song? Or you know, when I first
seen it, like, oh, I you know what, what is
that song? Sounds familiar? And I just I guess it
didn't register. I'm like, oh, that's weird app.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I love I love it so much. That song
is well, I think it's something like eight seconds of magic.
It's on my workout playlist.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So I've told the story on the show before, but
actually never to do with this song. So Ian I
happened to be on a family vacation driving from Detroit
down to West Virginia with my family and UHF the
soundtrack was released during that trip, so at like a
stop on the way, like Kmart or something. I bought
the cassette for UHF. And my parents were always like

(23:27):
pretty tolerant of weird Al's stuff, just because of all
the genre hopping. Like it wasn't like, oh, we're gonna
listen to the one kid's like hard rock now or
the other kids pop music. Like my parents would let
me play a lot more weird now because there was
so many different types of music on the one tape, right.
But anyways, the two things I remember from that is one,

(23:47):
you have the Biggest Ball of Twine in Minnesota on there,
which is about a family trip, and I was like
on a family trip when I heard that song, you know,
So it was like a kind of a fun little
thing there and then. But the other thing is my
mom was always so so about everything to do with
weird al but the first time, let me be your hog,
play to the car and as short as it is.
When it was done, she goes, maybe maybe don't play

(24:08):
that song again? Oh so what it noted? For the
record that apparently is my mom's leaks favorite weird hell song.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Okay, then crushed, she I've crushed. I've got two more facts.
This one is not super fun just because of how
it starts, but I think it's interesting information to have
and kind of a bit of a what could have been.
The movie UHF is dedicated to Trinidad Silva from Raoul's

(24:40):
Wild Kingdom because the actor was killed by a drunk
driver midway through production of the movie. Had he survived?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, So now, because didn't you ever have you ever
had that moment you were like, man, I wish there
was more Raoul, because I do.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
We talked about this, you and I not even on
your show, like we talked about this like in life,
and I think you googled him or something and found
that out and we.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Were both like Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So, had Trinidad survived, the movie would have developed the
character Raoul Hernandez a little bit more, such as the
fact that he was a postal worker, and it would
have included a scene involving revenge of the flying poodle Fifi,
who was unmercifully thrown from at a second story window.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, hold on, may I I would argue, if she
had learned to fly, that wouldn't have been a problem.
That's true, Okay, I just want to make that clear.
It was on the.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Poodle, not Yeah, there was a scene with attacking poodles
filmed after Trinidad's passing, using another actor doubling for him
with stuffed poodles attached to his body and covering his
face to kind of put a pin in the whole
Raoul storyline.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
But it was.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Lots of poodles, man got poodle hat, weasels on your face,
animals like yeah. So one of the things that has
always felt like a like a whole I guess, And
it's weird because of how you know, the patchworks together.
This movie is in the first place, one of the things.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
You're gonna say, it's a weird alum movie, right, like
you I know it's a weird parody movie. Yeah, but
go ahead continue.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
All I have to say is I feel like there
are so many things that Weird l does that are
so incredibly They may seem random at first, you know,
at first glance or whatever, but but so much is
so incredibly deliberate. And the fact that Raoul's character has
like these two amazing scenes and then is not heard

(26:44):
from again doesn't feel right, you know, it doesn't feel
like no. So I always just kind of felt like
I was like, oh, what happened? And then I found
out what happened.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
But I think it's perfectly bookended. And maybe maybe they
wrote this after the fact when they're just like this
guy and then they you know, they show the whole
rolls Wild Kingdom and they're just like, man, where did
you find this guy? It's like I thought you found
this guy. I thought you found this guy. Huh. And
then it just ends, and I'm like, it's kind of perfect.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And I will say that I don't think I would
have ever thought of why wasn't like when when you
and I talked about it, I was like, why didn't
we ever see him in anything else, Like I wasn't like,
why wasn't there more of him in that movie? You
know what I mean? Yeah, So like knowing that now
makes me be like, oh, well, yeah, there could have
been more of them in the movie. But I never
I never wondered why the character wasn't in there more

(27:35):
ahead of that.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
There could have been, but I never. It's note a knock.
It's just like it was perfect, Like I thought it
was perfect that you know.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, I don't know, and I don't know how many
times in life I've ever said, I know it's a
different obviously based on a different quote, it's a parody
of a different movie quote. But never in my life
have I said, we don't need no stink in badges.
Ever since, it's always been Badgers ever since seeing uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's badgers, stinking badgers.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
By the way, it took me like ten years to
know that that was a parody line. That's great, Yeah,
because like the.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Way I was there that it was a parody. I
just never knew, like, oh, this is from something, but
I don't care enough.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
That, Okay, that's what I mean. Like the way it's
presented in the movie when you see it You're like,
that's from something, yeah, but yeah, but I didn't. I
didn't know what it was from for like a decade later.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh, actually this is gonna seguay into a funny little
story that I can tell Ian for for for Lauren.
So you're familiar with Amash Paradise because everyone on Earth is,
and you're familiar with the film Pulp Fiction because everyone
on Earth is. Yes, So Lauren watched last Year for
the first time in her life pulp Fiction and when

(28:52):
that one and when that scene happens, and uh, Marcella
s Wallace says, do you hear me talking hillbilly boy,
I'm gonna get medieval on your ass. A solid thirty
seconds later, Lauren goes, oh my god, I get the
line in Amish Paradise now.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Because I was.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
That coined in yes.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Oh, yes, before not I'm gonna get medieval. No, oh,
that came from politiction.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I didn't you know what, I guess. I didn't realize
that either the way someone had him explained to me
that like that, like JIBEBRONI was like a new word.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, So that line when he says
you know or else I might have might have to
get medieval on your Heidie's is a reference to pulp fiction,
and she just kind of was like, oh, Nate, weird
Al wrote some lyrics like not knowing what it was.
And then so we're watching that movie. That scene is
obviously you know, it's a very serious scene in many

(29:53):
different ways, and so there's like a solid thirty seconds
of silence in our house. People have very many different
reactions to that scene, and she's like, oh my god,
now I get Amish paradise.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Wait, so did you what did you think weird Al
meant when he said get me medieval on your heine.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I truly just thought it was a reference to the
fact that, well, medieval on your heinee fine, But I
truly thought it was a reference to the fact that,
like the Amish didn't have a lot of modern conveniences.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, I mean it is that, but also he's I
didn't look.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Any further into the joke. I felt, you know, because
they're going to party like at sixteen ninety nine, Like, okay,
you go two hundred years before that, then it's medieval
on your heinie. Like it's fine, you know, it makes
sense to me somehow.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
But I think the word in itself, and that's more
Tarantino is just like I guess, you know, I never
thought about it. It was never used before that. But
the idea that someone could say, I'm gonna get medieval
on your ass, like I know what that means. I
don't fully know what that means. But like they were,
they were brutal and primal in medieval times, not like
you know, the you know place with the castle and

(31:01):
the sand and no utensils and everything. But I guess
I never thought about it like that. I guess it's
like when they say it's like in the pantheon, like
Tarantino's vernacular so ingrained in us.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just yeah, yep, no, I totally, I totally get that.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I just didn't get it. I just didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, that's good. I wish I was like experience. Actually,
I wish I was experiencing cult fiction for the first time. Now,
I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
What a fantastic film.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
See this is this is one of the joys of
being me.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And she just watched The Crow for the first time
a couple of weeks ago too, and like everybody brow yeah,
nearly everybody messaged me and was like, how does she
like it?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
So you probably let me let me you probably didn't
love it. Do you think it was cheesy? And okay, I.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Didn't think it was best. I didn't think it was cheesy,
Like I under I hear. I guess here's the best
way for me to put it. I get why people
like it.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
But it's not nineteen ninety four anymore, and people wearing
trench coats and it's a little like it's a little
hot topicy.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I love it. And it was like something that I
I'm nostalgic for. And my wife came to it late
and she's like, that's all right, it's kind of dumb,
and I was like, it is. And the dialogue is like,
and you know, I could get crucified for this, but
the dialogue is a little like, really, that's that's what
you're gonna say. Yeah, yeah, but I love it. I

(32:34):
do love it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's the thing. There's things that like I am and
I'm going to say this on an episode of the
show where we're talking about UAHF, there are some people
who are grown adults today who have never seen UAHF.
And if you show it to them, they're gonna go,
huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, they kind of have to. They have to be weird. Yeah,
they have to be weird like that, you know that,
that kind of humor. They have to like that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And the chances are if they like that, they probably
already were familiar with weird Al as his sentiment and
his you know, his style of comedy. Like if you
were to show someone all right, so that one's old
and very of its time, but if you were to
show someone in the movie weird, they again, they have
to like that. If they don't, it's going to be like,

(33:21):
why the why is this movie acting like this because
it's weird?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Al Well, I'm not going to derail this completely. I
have one more fun fact, but I need to make
this point. There have even been people with Weird the
Al Yankovic story. There are people like within the quote
end quote weird Al fandom that didn't understand what was
happening in a Weird the Al Yankovic story. They're like

(33:45):
they were expecting.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
They made a parody, the King of Parody, made a
parody of behind the Scenes, you know, MTV v H one. Yeah,
and you know, my biggest problem was is that it ended?
And I went, oh, I want more silllliness.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, yeah, it might happen.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Weirdell recently uh shared the news that he finished a
new script, and the director of Weird l Yankovic story said, oh, really,
so did I today, Like at the same time, so so,
And they've talked sequel before, so I know, I know for.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Anyone who I mean, anyone listening to should have seen it.
But I won't say anything about the ending, but like
it ended, and I went, oh that's so great. Yeah,
but I want more.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, we're going to get more. We're going to get more.
One final fun fact, we are going to get weird.
We're gonna get like so super weird. My last fun fact.
I'm just throwing this on here because you know, Russ,
being the music guy, I felt like you'd appreciate knowing
this that Ginger Baker, the drummer from Cream, actually auditioned
for the role of the panhandling bum.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I knew that somewhere along the way. But
that's fun.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Because he's a weird Al fan. Or was there is.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was yeah
and I yeah, So anyway, we got what we got
and that's it. I actually do sometimes when our old
doberman is outside and he's taking his sweet time in
the yard, I will actually go put my head out
the back door and I'll go, hey, mister, mister, hey, mister,

(35:15):
I get to try to come in. All right, guys,
I think this is a good time to take a
tiny little break. Throw it over to some ads. If
you don't like the ads, it's your fault for googling
what you google.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Hey, you there, We've got a question for you. Are
you tired of clickbait stories and the loudest voices driving
discussions and culture and entertainment.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
If so, I'm Dylan, I'm Kendall, and I'm Corey, and
we host the podcast from the Middle.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
We're middle class guys living in the middle of America,
in the.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Middle chapters of our lives with points of view Somewhere
in the middle.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
We take a more reasonable and centrist approach in our discussions,
covering genres like comedy, culture, entertainment, and interviews with really
interesting folks like business owners, comic creators, doctors, news anchors,
New York Times best selling illustrators, professional stand up comics.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
And more.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
We really value a relaxed and conversational podcast, one that
we hope is so fun and laid back you'll forget
you're not actually hanging out with us.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
So search at from the midpod just like it sounds,
or check us out everywhere you can find podcasts.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
Hey, I'm Hansel Sarin from the bfytw podcast here with
my buddy.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Stevie Hey, what was up?

Speaker 7 (36:35):
And Augie Hey? And we're here to first of all,
categorically deny the rumors going around that all we've been
doing lately is copying other podcasts. This is categorically untrue
and we deny it completely. Having said that, please continue
to enjoy the beard Al Podcast. But when you're done,
please check out our new project, the weird Ale Podcast,

(36:56):
where we pair an ale with a weird l song.
Pretty sure that hasn't been done.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Before, and we're back. Weren't those great ads?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I didn't care for that second one, understand?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah? What what are roosevelts? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
What could you not to get that? I got a
thing for like a duck robot?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Sounds like you got hit by auto correct.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh man, that took me a second. I like it.
Move along, moving along. So in this next second half
of second half of the show. Yeah, why not. That's
we're gonna call it. We're gonna be talking about some
smaller characters that we think make the movie special.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
So first list them and then talk about them. Like,
are we all gonna list our own and then dive
into it, or we're gonna each go in our own segment.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
We could do it however you want to do it.
I kind of feel like if you want to go,
and then you kind of go and we'll just kind
of have conversations about it. I've got a little list. Yeah,
you should probably have him list his off, you list
yours off, build a conversation.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
He hasn't hit you can, and I'll talk on both.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, So I have my first runner up only because
my wife and I are in a rewatch of The
Sopranos and I for some reason I always thought like,
and I forget the character's name, like the goon who
you know kidnaps Stanley, He's like the head goon. Yeah,
I always, for some reason thought it was Stallone's brother. Y. Yeah,

(38:40):
I've seen him. I've seen the movie a million times.
But now I'm like, oh my god, that's Richie April
from the Sopranos, whether you guys, And I was like,
oh man, and we so we're like, you know, we're
watching We're almost done again. But I'm just like he
like he's playing the same character but with none of
the grab top and I'm just getting staples in the face.

(39:03):
So I love him because he because like now, because
we're rewatching that, I have this like, ah that guy.
Uh so all right, so my real list is in
order is and I'm sure it's the same as you guys.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh well Cooney. Yeah, well let's let's let's stop and
talk about Cooney for a little bit here.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay, So I cannot hear any type. I can never
hear the word snapper common but like, which I realize
is also a another name for ladies. Sure, anatomy. Yeah.
But when if I'm anywhere at a restaurant or anything

(39:46):
and I hear red snapper, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean, I was there was a phase in my
life where I was playing a lot of animal crossing
and in the game Animal.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
That like like, oh, don't tell.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Me, don't tell anyone. No, I mean, like, don't tell anyone,
because I haven't really been back to my island in
like a year, so it's probably like really overrunning their
own men at me. Don't tell Tom Nook, okay, but
you go fishing in that game, and one of the
fish that you catch as a red snapper, and like
every time every time I go, whoa.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Very tastes and you and you want to yell stupid
at everyone.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh for sure. Like we watch a lot of on
Pluto TV. There's a twenty four hour Prices right channel
where all they do is good. Yeah, they show them
from like seventy seven to like eighty three, and anytime
anyone does anything wrong, I'm like stupid. But what the
one Lauren knows this. We go for sushi quite a bit,
and we've gone from like hole in the wall, like

(40:44):
I'm not sure if this is really fish sushi places
all the way up to like, oh, I think we're underdressed,
like sushi places. Does not matter where we are and
what the place is. Every single time I pick up
a menul, at some point I will be like ooh yeah, right,
snap off it, hoping just hoping for like someone to
hear it and give you that look like oh yeah, Jeff.

(41:06):
It's like like.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Someone's like chowing down on sashashimi, Like you're just like.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, can we be best friends? Now?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I have a T shirt that has it's just stylized
version of Cooney doing karate, and underneath it it says
supplies and Russ won't let me wear that to the
nail salon.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And me doing his voice on this podcast is gonna
very well get me canceled.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
No, you're on a weird al podcast. We don't get
cancel Quoting dialogue. Yeah, also here you know what else
I'm going to say? Then weave a.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
That the I love and I know it's not Cooney directly,
but I love George. In the apartment that they live,
they're just they're cool with like like oh what time
is it? And like the arm punches through and like,
oh my god. I'm like, I just like, I don't

(42:07):
know why. It's like, it's just I don't know. It's
so funny to me that they're okay with like arms
and body parts busting through their walls.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Well in a in an earlier version of the script,
Cooney was actually their landlord.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I mean he's still technically could he could be.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's just not explicitly stated, so like maybe that's that
my maybe that should be the head canon there, like
he's punching through the wall because it's his wall.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, not not unrelated, but like I some of the
artwork that I do, I'm I love like diners, drivings,
and dives, whether it's the TV show or actual the
physical places. And something I love to do is I
love to draw diners, drivings and dives with like local
places that I love to go to. And now it

(42:53):
turns out I'm I did one for like a local
hot dog place in North Jersey, and now I'm gonna
be working with them all because I drew something and
they saw it. But that's besides the point.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
When I was rewatching it, I was like, oh my god,
should I do a piece of art based on like Oh,
and I can't. I'm gonna call her big.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Big Big Nah.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, big Big Edna her Burger shop. Yeah, it's got
a front, it's got a sign. There's enough dialogue there
that I could create some text for it, but I
feel like I would do that, and you know, twelve
people might buy a print, so you know it's that
kind of maybe I'll just do it digitally for myself.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, well, I will tell you that scattered throughout our
home we have various prints and original pieces of weird
now artwork.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
So so one I got one customer, Yeah for.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Sure, Yeah for sure. If you do, if you do,
and I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
If it helps, we could split it into two different payments.
You can cause two different customers. It would still be
one sale. But would I would have split that?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
That's too funny.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
So one thing I want to mention on this with
him punching through the wall, and this is going to
segue into something else that I was telling Laura I
desperately want to bring up on this episode. But when
he punches through the wall years later, if you've ever
seen the movie Ted, that's another one where I think
the second one is just as funny as the first one.
But the movie with Ted with uh Mark, there's a

(44:23):
whole scene where they get to do a huge fight
with their martial arts neighbor and they end up punching
through the wall and the whole thing goes down, And
it's one of those things where I'm like someone on
this saw UHF like you know what I mean, Like
someone here like knows that that's a reference in some
way to UHF, I hope. So yeah, I believe and

(44:43):
so and then this is the other thing that I
wanted to bring up. And I was telling Lauren about this,
so about Geez, I don't know. Within the last six
months or so, uh, the ww W excuse me, the
WWE put up a backstage short from their NXT, which
is there minor league. And in this short was CM Punk,

(45:04):
Seawan Michaels, and Triple H. So like the guy who
runs the WWE, the guy who runs their minor league,
and one of the biggest names in wrestling. So all
three of these guys are in the thing and CM
Punk has these like really short shorts on and a
cowboy hat and they're both standing there talking and Shawn
Michaels walks into the frame and he goes take that

(45:24):
ridiculous thing off. Yeah, And CM Punk takes off his
cowboy hat all sad and gives it back to Sean Michaels.
And I told Laura I couldn't I couldn't run in
Lauren's office fast enough. I was like, they just made
an obvious reference to U. Jeff.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Okay, calm down, yeah, breath, I think before you speak.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Go yeah, yeah, That's exactly what I'm like. I'm like,
go to YouTube, go to YouTube, because it's to me,
it's like that to me confirms that at least one
of those three guys, probably all three have some reverence
for Uhi.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I feel like I've heard see him punk and like
weird Al's name, and like the same sentence that like
maybe he's a fan.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah yeah, that would that would track, That would make
sense in a whole lot of ways. Yeah yeah, because
I mean, obviously Russ is referencing the take the Ridiculous
thing off when the guy peels off his mustache, and
we spent like, like, now, we both have full time
jobs and stuff, but we spent I know, I know
we both spent too much time today trying to find

(46:30):
the name of the actor that portrayed the gentleman who
peels off the mustache. And I don't know who he is.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
So if you're yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
If you're listening to this and you happen to know,
because I'm sure that there's some nerd listening to this
that knows. And I'm saying nerd in the most loving
and kind and like complimentary way. There's some nerd out
there that knows, so please tell us because that's one
of Russ's favorite minor characters in this film.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yes so, but I just wanted to bring that up.
And when you brought the punching through the wall, that
reminded me of the Ted Friends. But by all means,
let us know who else who you got next on
your list?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Number two again, not in any order, is the bum? Yes,
just like, oh, I got a roll like that likes like, yeah,
that spitty s.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
A lot like yeah, this is like it's.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Weird because he's got like kind of that Julie rubbery face.
But so does that. You know, guns don't kill people,
I do. They kind of have that rubbery face like look,
and they're both in the movie. But yeah, it's funny.
When I was, you know, trying to be cool and
look up their names because like a lot of them don't,

(47:46):
I was like, do they even say their character's name?
He doesn't have a name. He's just listed as bum.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah. The actor is Vance Colvic Junior, who actually just
passed away relatively recently. Well no, this wasn't relatively recently.
If nineteen eighty nine was recently, No, he passed away. Yeah,
I knew this was one of his last film roles, actually,
and it was his last like uh in Theater's motion
picture before he before he passed away.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
So, but what she was saying earlier about the art Doberman,
he's not the brightest in the first place, and he's
nine now. And when she goes to the backyard, she'll
literally sometimes just be like, hey, makes care, Hey, mas care,
and then he'll just look like me who you you know? Like,
and I'm just like, I don't, honey. He barely knows

(48:35):
his own name anymore. Like you can't you can't go
throwing impressions at him from.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
A movie from from I know. I but I do
think that the bum is such an amazing character in
this film because he is the embodiment of dis x Makana. Right,
He's the.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Thing, the machine of God.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, that's the what, that's the plot plot driving device
for like the thing that corrects something that in like
a completely illogical sort of way, right, the only.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
One because.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Because of the Penny.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
From like the Indian Head Penny.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Hey, mister, hey, mister, and so like he's the reason
that the station gets saved. It's this bum and the
character doesn't even have a name right, So.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I know, I know this is literary.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I love that gag where you know, got any change
and it's just a make change of a dollar. I know.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I love it so much.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
It's fantastic. I hope that you're going where I think
you're going with your next character. But if not, we
we will definitely bring him up.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Uh, it's ul all right, Okay, he steals like it's
a scene stealer, whether it makes sense or not, whether
I knew what the reference was or not. Like I
vividly remember quoting like you know, fly Pe with like
Scott Rubinstein, you know, whether we understood the subtleties of

(50:12):
the movie or not when we were a kid, just
like imitating and quoting like throwing dogs and like I
can't see a turtle, and you know I like Ninja
turtles a lot. So it's like it comes up a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
The nature section. Yeah, you know, throw.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Up like it's funny, and that that throwaway joke of
like I thought you hired this guy. No, I thought
you hired this guy is so perfect, Like I love that,
and yeah, it just he steals the scene and that's it.
That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think that's beautiful. I think that's beautiful. Yeah, I
mean I love Raoul and we you know, we talked
about you know, Trinidad and Silva earlier in the in
the show and stuff and how like, I love Raoul
so much. I wish there was more Raoul. But I
appreciate you saying no, we got just the right amount
of row.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Sure. Wait, so Russ, who was who did you think
I was gonna say the first one on your list there?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, Joe early the.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I thought about that. He's great. I can't take anything
in a way. I just, for whatever reason, I didn't
name him.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
The amount of times in my life that I have said,
mister butterfingers.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Scene when I again, I was watching it yesterday and
you know, I'm watching it on my second monitor while
I'm working, and three times where I would kind of
pause and look over and for the first time in
four million viewings of this, I noticed his thumb, like
you could see it clear as day. Oh yeah, he's like,

(51:48):
oh I got it all. But he's just got it
like tucked under his hand. But in like one scene
where he likes he's like flailing it at George, like look, look,
you can clearly see it tucked under just like makes it.
I don't know if that makes it even better.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
It does, And that's what I think. I love how
like silly it is and like how you could tell like,
oh no, like this isn't really actually happening.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah, I'm not even fully aware of who Emo Phillips
is as much as like this kind of offbeat comedian
that associates with weird Al.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, that's I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
One of the last times we saw weird Aw, he
opened for him.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, the last two times I saw Weirdell on the
Unfortunate Return of the Ridiculously self Indulgent Advice Vanity Tour,
Emo Phelis did open for weird Al and he didn't.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Whatever you stand up, Yeah, and his stand up is
very close to what you see in that scene, except
he doesn't injure himself. Yeah, weird style and everything. Yeah,
Like I heard of Emo Phillips, Like, and I always
tell Lauren about this, but way back before both of
you were born, in the eighties, they used to have
a lot more stand up on TV than on regular

(52:58):
TV than they do now. Like, well there's none on
TV now, but there used to be like Fox when
Fox first launched. They used to have stand up every
night at seven o'clock for a half hour, and I
would see there's people I tell you about the names
like David's Baide and all sorts of people's who I
ever heard of first. But Emo Phillips was like way
different than all of the other comics, so I always
remembered him. And then when he showed up in UHF,

(53:19):
I was like, Oh, it's that guy. And then you know,
he didn't really go out of like greatness or anything,
but yeah, I knew of him before that because he
was so distinct, like him Stephen Wright, Like there were
guys who had like a distinct style.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah, they weren't like telling jokes, they were just like
weirdly existing.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
There was a thing in the eighties like that, Like
Steven Wright is one of my favorite comics of all time,
who just his whole thing is his dry delivery. That's
totally different than how any other comic deliveries. Gallagher. I know,
he's known for the watermelon thing, but like all the
rest of the jokes that he had were just completely
different than how anybody else did things. Because there was
there was that subset of people like that in Emo

(53:59):
Phillips and everything, and then there was exactly and I'm
going to fall into a crappy Seinfeld here, but the
whole rest of all of comedy was you know, the
slick looking suit and what's the deal with the airline food?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
You know?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Like, yeah, absolutely, and uh so I I was. It
always stood out to me when somebody was unique, that's
why somebody liked. But that's all Emo films thing was
was he would come out and do what you see
him doing in UHF without the cutting his thumb. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I mean, as as a as a weird al fan,
I have to say that we all do go through
our Emo phase.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Oh good one, good home almost.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I have two and a half more characters that I
feel like I need to mention.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Oh no, is that the joke I think it is?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
No, Actually it's not.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Oh wow, Oh no.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Noodle's Macintosh. I'm not making a joke about him being
a small.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Person talk about getting cancer.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I wasn't. No, it was honestly for how much of
a smaller part The other one is, Oh no, I
didn't do that on purpose. I really didn't, oh dear,
Because the whole point I wanted to make about Noodle's
Macintosh is Oh my god, see I'm gonna get canceled.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Anyone to your show knows you didn't mean.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I didn't mean.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
It's more on me for thinking.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
What I love about Noodle's Macintosh is when he first
appears right and and fran Dresher's character is there, like
looking for her cameraman, and then she's on the phone
and she's freaking out because she can't find him. He
shows up and he's as small as he is. She
doesn't say anything about it. She goes, oh, there you
are great. You know now follow me yea. I love

(55:42):
that about her character, and like how like Noodle's Macintosh
is just respected for what he is and then he
gets knocked down to the ground after the broadcasting isn't
for broads or broad say.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Out of broad and broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I don't like it, are you kid? Even then you've
got you've got You've got Noodle's Macintosh with his scuffed
up elbow back in the in the in the state, which.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Was the worst thing that happened to him until you
insulted him here ago. I know, sorry that happened.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Everyone I know. Did you know Billy Barty who he
passed away in two thousand. He would have turned one
hundred this year.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, yeah. He was born in nineteen twenty four October
twenty third, nineteen twenty four, which is also weird Al's birthday,
but not the same the same. Yeah, But Billy Barty
and his wife, who was also a small person. Billy
Party was actually an activist and he founded the Little

(56:40):
People of America Foundation for that, and I think that's
pretty cool. And his wife and ce Cee. I wasn't
making fun of him.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I'm hurriedly trying to undo that.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I am undoing it. And he he and his wife
actually you know, both had dwarf Ism. But their son,
he's a movie producer and he's five eleven.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
So me too.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Really, you're mistallic noodles kid.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Your hair, My hair makes me like six to two.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
But oh yeah, see that'll do it. That'll do it.
That's why I see, that's why I put this ponytail, uppie.
This makes me like five to two.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Maybe the next one is Richard Fletcher, who's the son
I'm going for the son here played by John Paragon,
mostly because of Happy Father's Day, dude, I love that
so much.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I all I can think of in that entire scene
is I.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Wanted to roll like you, I know, And Kevin McCarthy,
he's too major of a character for me to feel
like I wanted to mention on this on this list,
but that actor weird Al says on the on the
DVD commentary that that anytime Kevin had to be especially
mean in his role, as soon as they called cut,

(58:02):
he started bursting out laugh and he was having an
absolute laugh riot.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Really that makes me feel better because like part of me,
I really I have the DVD, I really got to,
like listen to the commentary. Part of me sees it
as like almost like Alec Guinness in like Star Wars,
where he like he's in it and everyone loves him.
You're like, oh he hated it like it and you're

(58:28):
just like I could see a serious actor doing this
and going, what the what the ship am I on?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
You?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Like? What kind of crap is this like this?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (58:39):
But the idea that he was having a great time
makes me enjoy it more.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
It should. It absolutely should. And one little fun fact
about John Peregon Are you a pee Wee's Playhouse guy?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Okay, so he.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Pee wee when pee Wee passed. It was like actual heartbreaking. Yeah,
well I love yeah, so go ahead.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Fun fact before the fun fact actually touching fact and
then another touching fact. Uh. Before Paul Rubens passed away.
He actually saw Weird the Al Yankovic Story before anybody
else did because of him being portrayed in the the
pool scene. Yeah, so he got to see he got

(59:21):
to see that before he left us.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
It's weird. Did al know that he was sick and
that's why?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah. He was one of
those guys who I interviewed Eric Appel, the director of
Weird the Al Yankovic Story, on the show a while ago. Yeah,
and he he told me that, you know, he was
on Paul's Christmas card list. He's on Weird Alice Christmas card.
These guys are all like big sending cards out to

(59:49):
people that are important to them kind of yelseide we.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Would call or Paul would call everyone everyone on their birthday.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah, yep, that's it. That kind of deal. So it's
it's just one of those great things. But John Paragon,
who he played Jamby the Genie on Peewe's Playhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Wait, the owner of Channel eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yeah, the the young the son the fathers did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah, And he that actor actually passed away in twenty
twenty one, and his urn is quote a perfectly crafted
depiction of the purple and gold Genie box from Pee's Yep,
so his urn looks like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I feel like, like, that's like mad respect.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I think that's amazing connected to art that you made.
That's where I'll tell you offline afterwards, because I don't
want to be a jerk to somebody. But there's a
there's a very famous actor who uh a comedian and writer,
has a big problem with and tells a lot of
stories how much he hates his fans and the things
that he's known for and and whatnot, and uh, people

(01:01:05):
were quoting his lines to him once and as soon
as they walked away, he was like, that's the ones
I hate the most, you know, and that's just such
a bummer and uh yeah, And and with this it's like,
you know, do you think that guy probably at some
point in his life was not in the mood to
hear Macaleka high, you know, like, but to be to

(01:01:25):
just take it, to own that so much and be
like and then when I'm gone, I'm I'm going to
be in this because I'm okay with being identified with
something that brought people so much joy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
It's a legacy, Yeah, for sure, for sure. I have
one last This is the half character because it's such
a bit little part.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
The is it the guy who trips? Is it the cameraman?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
And it's it's the blind guy with the Rubi's cube?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Is this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
It is this? It is this? It is this? It like,
it's such a good gage. So I just thought he
was fabulous and I felt like the guitar guy, No,
the blind guy with the rubis cue just got me.
So so I think we covered, Like you you kind

(01:02:21):
of planned this right well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I told you. Yeah. She was like, and you should
have a list too, And I was like, y'all are
going to have enough list to where I can just
talk about what you're going to because a lot of
what I would have picked would have matched up anyways.
You know. But I don't know. It sounds to me
like there needs to be I mean, everybody lobbies for
Whirdel Roosevelt shirts, but it sounds to me like there
needs to be a shirt dedicated to just the side

(01:02:44):
characters from yeah, but not one with George or Terry
or any just the side characters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Five people would buy it, and I would buy I
would be I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Was gonna say, you can, you can sign this up.
That's two sales, right again, that's two you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I mean, I don't want to turn this into a
Roosevelt pot podcast. But like, if it was weird, it'd
be an easier sell to do a weird Al shirt
because he owns his likeness. We couldn't likely do the
like song lyrics. Then it would be a license with

(01:03:19):
the with whatever the producer, the record producer is that
you could do a weird oul shirt. Uh. And if
you do a UA chef shirt, then it's O'Ryan, which
is MGM, which.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Is I say that the change the rights have to
have changed hands like three thousand times.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I think Amazon own owns MGM. But regardless, it'd be
easier to do a weird Al just a singular weird
Al shirt. I also think it would be uh in
Roosevelt's best monetary interest to do weird awl over a
side character.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Second, whatnot lies lies?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I know that weird that that Al has worn the
shirts he's been He's worn some Star Wars ones. And
it's funny like before Roosevelts, I was a very like
black T shirt, black grays blues. And then the the
first shirt that I bought from them, I was like,

(01:04:23):
am I gonna do this?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
May?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Maybe am I gonna try this? Was a Wendy and
the Beast of the beat. So it's like that bright
blue one with you know, the you know, the dog
and the girl on it. And then since then I've
kind of like dipped my toe into it. And then
when I got when I got a job with Roosevelts

(01:04:46):
or doing freelance, I would get copies of my shirts
and it's just like, yeah, I'm gonna wear my shirts.
And then and then it like, oh yeah I love this.
I am I will wear wild shirts. There's some stuff
I still don't want to wear. Maybe it's just a
color preference, but when people when I tell people like

(01:05:06):
who I am now, I'm in my weird alface. I
like to wear a rock and shirt just playing pants
and you know, for a while I wore them out,
but I had these like slip on sneakers that had
dinosaurs all over there. Yeah, but I like broke the souls,
but like I'm in my weird al face.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I love that. Don't ever leave it. I feel like
I've been in I've been in my weird al phase
since nineteen eighty six, and uh yeah, I just own it.
It's it's a great way to be. It's a wonderful
I like, because here's the thing, Like I wouldn't even
be like into the the Roosevelt's shirts at all if

(01:05:44):
it wasn't for the the weird al of it, Like
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Like, how you is that how you like got introduced?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Well, yeah, well my brother got me my first one,
and you know, we've been weird al fans since we
were kids, and he was into the shirts to be
because of the patterns and the funness about the wacky
of the whole of the whole deal. So I you know,
I kind of started learning about what the what the
shirts are and my first one was the pink Lacroix.
The So so that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I can quickly share it because my I think my
story about how I got into Roosevelts is funny or
funny because Lauren, we live here in Jacksonville, Florida, which
is where Aaron Williams lives. Who is a big, huge
part of the Roosevelts community. And Lauren Yeah yeah, And
so Lauren knew him and was friends on Facebook with him,
And every single time her and I posted a picture

(01:06:35):
on social media, Aaron, who I'd never met in my life,
had no idea who he has, would be like, looks
like you're having a good Saturday. I wish your man
had a better shirt. Like every single time we posted
a picture, he would insult whatever shirt that I was wearing.
And I told him, I'm like who Yeah, I was like,
why is this person? Like I've never who is this guy?
So she bought me a w W. She bought me

(01:06:59):
a Degeneration Act Roosevelts, and like everybody else, the first one,
first time I put my arm in one, I was like,
oh that's comfortable, you know. Uh? And then but I
used to I mean, I grew up in Detroit. I'm
a big, huge music guy. My entire lifetime before this
has been spent in jeans and rock t shirts. And
and I once I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Switched pretty much where I was living too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, and literally I every single because I work from
home every single day, I wear a different Roosevelts and uh,
tuxedos in the whole nine yards. Her, her father and
I have matching tuxedos, and yeah, so it's it's it's
it really, it's a big part of our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And we're Yeah, we wore we wore Roosevelt shirts when
we got married, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, which ones?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
He wore the midnight the Miami Lacroix tux, so he
had the shirt and the shorts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
And you get married, you're gonna married.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
And I wore a white dress with a garden party.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, so I mean it's it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
And then we had our reception the following year and
it was all Roosevelts out too. It was kind of ridiculous.
So you know, we love the whole colorful thing of it,
and like we're just so happy to you know, like
I love that you like literally feel like you're in
your weird al phase of life, because that's what these
these shirts are. People wear, whether they realize it or not,

(01:08:16):
are living like they're weird l fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
The Steve, the co founder, you know, unfortunately passed away,
but he had said wearing the shirts for a lot
of people is like a like a suit of armor.
It's something that they would have never have done, and
when they wear it, they feel a little stronger, a
little more outgoing, a little bolder, and it gives people

(01:08:40):
a this like this confidence they may not have had where.
I mean, you you wear the shirts and you wear
them out in the bout, and I'm sure you've had
people come up to you and talk to you about
them in the past, like get the fuck away. Yeah
right now, you're kind of like, let's talk about these shirts. Constant,

(01:09:01):
Steve Stephen John, We're onto something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
There for sure quickly, because I know, I know, we
got to wrap up. But we just had the big
Jacksonville meet up down here and Lauren and I led them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
We saw your video. You were great, Yeah, we did.
We saw a conflict of interest. You were being very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Well, I I'm from Detroit, so I was like, it's fine,
he's doing the Motor City comic gown. It's fine. But
we Lauren and I led the pub crawl around Jacksonville
on Saturday. We had I don't know about forty of
us or so. And uh, anyways, at least at two
of the five pubs that we stopped at, we all
ended up having people be like, Okay, what's with the shirts,
and like, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Know, are you guys in a cult?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yeah? Well yeah, we were like we were like, until
there's a Netflix documentary, it's not a cult. So I'm
just saying that. But but we did have at least
two or three people that like took all the information
down and scanned the QR codes and well, you know,
we're like, oh, we want to be a part of
this too, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
So it was really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah, we're recruiting, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I know, we we gotta wrap up, but I was
doing it. Yeah, you'd see if you use words like recruit,
that's how we get to the Netflix stock.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Well, you you want to you know, you got your
different tiers and you want to get to the top
of the nebula. Yes, and then you can recruit more insiders.
I've said too much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I was gonna say, did you have to do
it the right? Am way? Wait a minute, I didn't
mean to use those words.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Oh oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Anyway, that was delightful.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I will say since it has been the beard Ou podcast,
I have enjoyed a Sweetwater Brewing Company gummies, fruit punch,
I p A. I think I've had something from this
series on this show before. But it's delightful and uh
to kind of put a pin in that little funny
joke that we were making there. This sort of tasted
like kool aid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Good one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
And thank you so much for being here to talk
about UHF with us today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
It's been delightful, my pleasure. It's I mean, who doesn't
want to talk about movies in general, especially not I
mean especially movies we love. So yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah, And I would encourage everybody to check out the
show notes for this because I will throw some uh
lenks to things that Ian has done and just other
general things that we we've talked about here today. So
you know, if anything interested you, uh, I'm gonna try
and make it as easy as possible for you to
find it. And with that rush, thank you, thank you
for rolling in from the living room, you know, and

(01:11:29):
uh we'll come at you again next time. Folks. We're
we're in the holiday season and I haven't decided yet
if we're gonna do a holiday episode or if I'm
going to jump into side too of there to be stupid,
So I guess you're gonna have to wait and see
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Bye, Thanks for having me, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Bye. Yeah