February 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Should you only travel with tier-one friends? How are you going to decide on who plays the music in the car? Most importantly, who will be there to talk Claire out of going to live with the monks? Those questions are answered this week on Before You Cut Bangs.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to, before you Cut Bangs.
I'm Laura Quick and I'm ClaireFehrman.
I am a professional storytellerand I'm currently working on my
first book.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I have worked in mental health for many years in
lots of capacities and this is areally important time to tell
you our big disclaimer this isnot therapy.
We are not your therapists orcoaches or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you shouldn't really trust us very
much at all, unless you want toand it turns out well, then you
can trust us, that's great.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Where in the United States would you like to go that
you've never been?
What's a bucket list place inthe United States?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Montana.
I want to do a dude ranch inMontana.
I want to go pretend like I'm agirl who wears boots and jeans
and rides horses and lives onthe land, but only for a couple
hours, to get some good photosand see some mountains.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I could help accommodate that.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'd like, I'd like to do that.
You're invited, Wilbur.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh, the Redwoods it's like the that and Napa are the
only I swear like because oftouring like over and over.
Those are the two spots.
Everyone else I'm like oh yeah,at least I've been there for a
day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I've never done Redwoods either, and I'd love to
do it.
What about you, great Lakes?
I want to sit in like a littlecabin with a lake view and you
know I want it to be warm butnot hot.
Maybe it never gets hot, Iwould know.
I haven't been, you know, but Ihave some visions of mahjong
and knitting and outdoor timeand I imagine there's quaint
cafes and bookstores yeah, I'venever been to the UP as I say
(01:49):
right Claire just wrote a uh, aromance novel like setting like
I just took this girl's trip andI was knitting and all this.
I would have had to like lose mybakery business first, you know
of course, you're on the heelsof a tremendous loss.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You have only just the amount of money it will take
to, can I?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
escape to the UP UP when a shirtless angler came.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Named Bobby.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Even though it is still cold outside.
This is the time of year wherepeople are thinking about the
trips they want to take with thepeople that they love, they
want to make memories with.
It's like bucket list time,like are you going international
?
How many times are you going tothe beach, like you know?
Is there a mountain trip onyour radar?
Are you hanging out at the lakefor a weekend or a long weekend
(02:41):
, like with great friends?
And we're going to talk abouthow disastrous it can be if you
just have one person, oh god,who just doesn't travel well
with you and your crew I umwould like to say that the first
born females of a family Iwould say are typically pretty
(03:03):
good travelers, according tothemselves.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I am the first born female.
I love an itinerary, I love aplan.
Oh, if y'all can stop.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No, no, you're good.
What we love that Y'all are allmoaning.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Like ugh, ugh.
I was silent.
I was giving feedback.
You were making faces, facesmoving were making faces, faces.
Maybe I was silent.
This is an audio platform.
I saw you through my littlering over here go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, I think we get a bad rap because of our um,
maybe I would call itdecisiveness and enthusiasm, and
that's been perceived ascontrolling, oh and bitchy, and
I disagree with that.
I have learned to relax a lotover the years, but I do love a
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plan.
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I feel like a lot of times your trips are with a lot
of people right, Like y'all dobig family vacations.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's a lost fucking cause.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You might need an itinerary.
You've had to really go and letGod on those trips, those I let
go and let God on Fairmanfamily vacations.
I just like she tried for solong to just be defeated and
beat down, so she had to let itgo and let God yeah, and of
course my mom's gonna come up inthis.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
She, she, just my mom's a step worse than me, only
child female.
So she's like what we're eatingfor lunch today is this.
I've already packed 17sandwiches and you're like, yeah
, that's what I'm eating forlunch today, you know.
So there's like a nice quality,you don't really have to do
anything.
I'm talking like, maybe agirl's trip, here's my, my thing
.
If I, if Laura, was like, hey,let's fly to New York for the
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weekend, I wouldn't be like,okay, from 8 to 8 50, we're
gonna do this.
I like to budget my timebecause it is valuable to me to
make sure I get the most out ofit, and some of that might be
scheduled time of doing nothing.
I'd like to move on from me.
Scheduled time of doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm a pick a destination, like have a flight
in, have a flight out, figureout what happens when we get
there.
I treat every place I gowhether I've been there a
hundred times or I've never beenthere before like I'll come
back, because if I like it, I'llcome back.
You're so relaxed.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, I'm, I'm that's, that's surprising, that's truly
surprising.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm a flexible traveler.
I I don't so much of my lifehas to be scheduled that when it
comes to travel, I just like.
I'm such a curious person thatI kind of like just letting
whatever's gonna happen happen.
So it's not that I don't lookand you don't make a dinner
reservation, not until, like I'mlike we want to do dinner in
two hours let's see what's up.
(05:35):
That's so brave.
Listen.
Shane and I went on a honey,our honeymoon.
We only had a flight in toParis and a flight out of Paris
three weeks apart.
We had no reservation anywhere.
We made everything on theflight there, like hotels and
like where we're going to hop,and we loved it so much.
Again, so much of our life hasto be scheduled because of work.
(05:57):
That is kind of this like fun,like whatever, but that's one
side of me.
I also.
I am cool with a Claire in thegroup.
That does not bother me, Iactually like it.
I like for you to have done theresearch, you plan the things,
as long as you're not likewhipping me, I'm very adaptable.
(06:18):
Yeah, you know we have to leavein five minutes to be at
so-and-so.
That's the kind of shit thatmakes me fall for radar.
Okay, yeah, you would do that.
I will say in regards to justlike a not my favorite
experience and now, if you'relistening, I love you so much.
So just know that my sister,who is an angel, like a literal
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Disney character level human wetraveled a couple years ago to
St Thomas and all I wanted to dowas eat tacos and like they
have this like beach and on StJohn's where you can like swim
with the big turtles and likehang out, and like I just wanted
to eat tacos, drink margaritas,swim with those turtles, take a
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couple pics, get the hell outof there.
This bitch pulls up all trailsand she's like I feel like what
about?
Like a quick hike?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
like just a quick hike, and I was like remind our
listeners you chose to hike 18miles in alaska because oprah
did it all right.
Well, that is different.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That was a because Oprah did it All right.
Well, that is different.
That was a Oprah did it.
I didn't know.
It was 18 miles.
I would have never agreed tothat either.
With this, she said a quickhike.
She promised it would bring usback to the beach with the tacos
and the turtles, when I telly'all it was 9,000 degrees, it
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ended up being five miles acrossthe island.
We never saw that beach again,ever.
We hitchhiked because I was somad and hot and disgusting
looking.
I also had a little Elizabethin my hair then when we went a
couple years ago A couple crisesI've had over the years,
anyways and she was so chillabout it.
(08:06):
And what I need y'all to know isthis is the the thing about my
sister.
She is so laid back, she's notgoing to push, she'll go with
the flow, but she will fuckingclose those rings on her little
Apple watch.
There will be a ring closingand when I closed the ring I
don't have an Apple watchanymore because I hated it so
much but when I had to close it,you know I was like closing
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that thing with 400 calories,you know, like a couple thousand
steps.
I wasn't trying to be ambitious.
Sure, when she closes it, likeshe, she 15,000 steps.
Not 150 miles.
Like is the kind of bike ridesshe does in like one day or two
days or whatever.
I'm like who are you?
You psycho anyways.
(08:48):
So to sum up our trip, Iremember this moment while I'm
watching sun set on the thepatio of this, overlooking St
Thomas really mad.
Never saw the turtles, nevergot the tacos, went on a long
ass.
I'm sure my body appreciated it, but I was pissed and I look
back in the room while I'mjournaling about the day and
(09:11):
this bitch is doing squats andlunges across the hotel room and
I was like we're not the same.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You got to close those rings.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean, we're just not the same and I love her and
if you're listening and I knowyou probably are I love you so
much and I admire your passionto health and you will be 85 and
can still open a jar of picklesand climb 30 steps stair cases.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, I bet you're a really easy traveler.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, so we're well I mean in the sense of, in the
sense of here's the deal.
I Well, I mean in the sense ofhere's the deal I'm not going to
travel with a big group, I'mjust not.
Yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Just because I want to, even if you're related to
them, oh, yeah, oh especially ifyou're related, I mean you know
how much I love my family.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We just don't, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, some stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The.
Fairmans are special I get itand stuff, but we haven't.
We've all been so busy.
We haven't done that in a fewyears.
So, generally speaking, like weare, I think, going to Alaska
in a few months, she's got ahike to recommend I've got you
covered.
We are going to do some hikes.
But we're not going to plan anyof that.
We're going to plan our flightsand our first night hotel and
that's it, and then it's goingto be wherever we end up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hotels tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
My friend, nick, and I do these trips where we go fly
to a city.
The last one was Denver andwe're going to end up in LA and
we have seven days to do it onthese motorcycles and we only
plan the first night's hotel,that's it, and that's it.
And then every day it's likeall right now, where do we want
to go?
And if we can't get there, itsnows or rains or something we
can change.
So that's generally.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
If we go to the beach , uh, we go once a year for
seven days we book one dinnerand that's it, and the rest of
it we cook it's the only placeI'm relaxed.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What's that?
There's no other plan.
And if people want to gosomewhere that we are with,
let's say there's like four ofus or five, and the final one is
like all right y'all have fun.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We'll see when you get back I think that you know
there is the non-plan plan whenyou go to the beach, where you
don't really have to have a planbecause the plan is we're going
to the beach and then you knoweverything's accessible,
whatever.
I think what is reallyinteresting to me is in my 20s
and 30s, when I'd plan, like agirl's trip, there'd always be
the girl.
(11:20):
I had to explain to the rest ofmy friends Like're always.
I cannot think of one timewhere I didn't have to be like
listen, she's going to complainabout every food item that hits
the table.
She's going to like taste thetea in front of the server to
make sure that it's good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's like a bachelorette trip.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
No, like well, I mean , I had several, obviously, but
there's just girls trips whereeveryone's not tier one.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's good.
Is it like a bachelorette trip?
No, like well.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, I had several , obviously, but there's just
girls trips where everyone's nottier one In my early.
That's a great question In myearly 20s and 30s 100%, and I
learned a lot from that.
Now, when I plan a trip, Idon't ever have to worry Because
, like everybody is.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Tier one.
Well, and most of them areconnected enough to know whether
or not they would say yes or noto a trip only travel, it's
here 100 like oh, we're bloodrelations in the same place,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But like, if we're like meeting up in a city and
like you're there and I'm thereand we have our own
accommodations, yeah, whatever,yeah, that's fine.
I also had a girlfriend say,like I think what's important is
to know the people, to know whoyou can trust and who you
cannot trust with accommodations, Because this is a big deal.
Shane went on a guy's trip andShane bougie, so he needs to
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like, he's got to have controlof like where somebody's staying
.
So there's this group of guysthat goes to this one game I
think it's like the TexasAlabama game or I don't remember
what game it is like every yearand he finally like, he's like,
yeah, I'll go.
He said there were roaches inthe Airbnb and it was like a
disaster and they were like well, it was only $28 a person.
(13:00):
And he's like well, no shit.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It was so like there's that too, like who's in
charge of accommodations, I canliterally eat dinner at a gas
station, and I mean that myfavorite one is the floor alley
gas station, where they havefried chicken, livers and
gizzards.
Delish they run out fast on asunday though, um, but I have to
sleep in complete cleanliness.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It is the thing that I feel like I would rather
invest in.
I'd rather only eat one coolmeal a day and like kind of
skimp on everything else, but Iwant to stay in a nice hotel.
I just want to stay in a nicehotel.
I want the bed to becomfortable.
I don't want to ever have toworry about cleanliness like
that Cannot be a thing.
Um, and I want the mattress tobe comfortable.
Like Don't want to ever have toworry about cleanliness that
cannot be a thing.
And I want the mattress to becomfortable.
(13:46):
We too old to be getting kinksin our neck.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What's up.
I can agree with that For sure.
Even touring when we were notmaking a ton of money, we would
still.
It was a hotel.
We didn't sleep on people'sfloors, we didn't crash or find
a place.
No, that was the agreement.
We didn't care on some of thetours, like we bought clay.
Clay slept in vans like he'slike yeah and then the other
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tours was like nicer and likewhatever.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But on the, the indie tours or whatever that was, the
goal was to everybody gets ahotel every night, and then
we're good I don't like to stayat other people's houses unless
we are like incredibly close,and even then I would prefer
just to like kind of do my ownthing.
I get a little bit of anxiety.
Um, when bobby and I starteddating, we went to stay with his
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really good friend and hisgirlfriend in pensacola and, um,
I was really anxious, like Idid, I'd never met them.
Can we just say how brave thator maybe maybe had a beer with
them or something, but it wasvery light.
They're amazing people, so thishas nothing to do with them.
Um, but in their guest room,the um, the bed I don't even
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know how to describe it otherthan like the center of the bed
was up and the longer we slepteach side was was going in.
So we're like rolling, rolling,bleep it.
Bobby's rolling into the walland I'm rolling onto the floor
and so we're like fuck it.
So like we flip to the otherside.
We just are trying to sleeplike the wrong way.
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Whatever Bobby is like is likewell, like no conflict, like he
will just deal with it, you know, so I have to.
I don't barely know thesepeople.
So like I am also going tosleep sideways for the next few
nights.
Um, and they eat dinner likenine or ten grandma eats, like I
was asleep, sitting up whenthey were like dinner's ready.
(15:41):
No, I heard them in that likehalf wake, half sleeping, like I
bet our guests are gettinghungry, and I was like sleep
laughing, and I'm like I'm sohungry I'm not hungry anymore,
like I'm past, so we, we leave,and I'm like I was like I can't
do it again.
I love them, I want to befriends with them.
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I will travel with them.
I cannot sleep there again.
And Bobby's like I think thatthe uh box spring was upside
down, oh yeah.
And I'm like how, how do you dothat?
So we go back like six monthslater and I'm like I, I'll give
it one more time, like that.
That's it.
(16:22):
You're so brave.
I would be like no, we're gonnahotel, it was everything was
like now.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
There's a mystery to solve well, bobby's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
He's like, hey man, uh, just so, you know, last time
we were kind of rolling awayfrom the bed and the guy's like
you know, my mom or dad orwhoever said the same thing and
we're like we think your boxspring is upside down and he's
like there's no way.
And then he lifted up and solike the mattress was just like
curling up into this thing.
So after like those instances,I'm like I will pay whatever I
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have to pay.
I will use whatever Marriottpoints I have stashed away, just
so I have control over mybedtime, my dining rituals and
my skincare routine.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's true, I have a thing Staying at people's houses
.
I've got to know you deeplyknow you Stay at my sister's
house.
I obviously would stay at bestfriend's house.
Tier one, Tier one.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Top of tier one.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Top, top, top, top, top, top of tier one, Top of
tier one, tier one, top of tierone, top, top, top, top of tier
one, top of tier one.
And it's funny because, like,even, like, even in my, like,
obviously, shelly tier one Istay with her and, like you know
, we're like slumber partybecause we don't get to see each
other like all the time.
So I'm like in her bed, likewe're like what are you doing?
What's been up?
We're like scrolling throughwhatever that's tier tier one,
top of the top, top, top.
And she's got like 700 kidsover there.
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But, like, even with my family,I'm getting a hotel room.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Especially.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Definitely getting a hotel.
Not me, not this girl oh no,you're like pile them all in
here.
We are making a Griswold familysituation out of this.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There are only four or five adults that I can think
of, that I will ride in a carwith for longer than 30 minutes
or something.
Oh, I want my car for sure,yeah, but like even just in the
same car for a long period oftime, me and Shane will drive
separate to Nashville.
Oh, I like Danielle.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
No, no, listen, but I love him, but if it's work time
when we're leaving, I'm notlistening to have 30 like his
business?
Yeah, it's like and then I havea business call and then it's a
disaster.
There have been times whereI've had to crawl to the very
back of the car to try and like,huddle down and be on a call.
While he's on a call, I'm likenever again.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Bobby doesn't even like like.
If I'm at my office he's on acall, I'm like never again.
Bobby doesn't even like like.
If I'm at my office and he's atthe house, I'm like hey, do you
want to meet to eat dinner?
He's like well, I mean, willyou at least pick me up so we
can ride together?
He does not like to even drive10 minutes alone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, I'll drive alone all day.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Same.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I love alone time in a car, my friend who lives right
here across the street, who'smy best friend.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Did you just move in yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I did just a week ago , two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's awesome.
Do you all spend the night eachother?
We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But he owns an insulation business, right, and
so he's the only one of ourfriends who has to make work
phone calls on trips.
And it's really funny becausewhen you do an insulation job,
the spray foam that's calledgiving a blowjob.
And so he just constantly onour beach trips, is telling
people and they just skim rightover it Like all right, so you
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have two blowjobs here today andit is the best, we just all
giggle.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We got 13 blowjobs on the schedule for today.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You think they would change what that's called, but
they just call it that andthat's what it is what would you
call it?
Um, yeah, that's great.
Uh, a job, a job beat.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
No, I don't know see I think blowjob is the only way
to go.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's what it is I'd maybe just say insulation
installation, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
A spray job, a spray job which also has connotations.
That also sounds pretty, yes,yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I actually think I like blowjob better than spray
job.
I guess we want you to do 12spray jobs today.
I think you can get that in.
It's definitely not as bad asblowjob yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It's a little softer.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
The first thing that came to my mind when you started
this episode was like one timesomeone brought a date, like a
new person, on our big beachtrip.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The Karen of the group.
Oh, just a disaster.
Go ahead and tell that story.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, I mean I don't know that, I want to get into
specifics, but this could besomebody who definitely listens.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Same with the one I have.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, my sister's going to hear same with the one
I have, um, yeah, just newpeople.
So so one of my big things isI'm just done with new people
coming on trips.
We're past that now, likeyou're too old for that yeah,
we're just done like, if youhave someone new, y'all do a
trip.
You guys do a trip, we're notgonna do that as part of our one
beach trip a year yeah, yeah,okay, okay yeah I think what's
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the rest of the story?
yeah, every time I'm like oh,because I, because here's what I
can.
Then I'm like no, I can't saythat publicly.
No, I can't say that bachelor.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I planned a bachelorette party for a young
woman.
I was also young.
I was in my 20s, she was in her20s, she was younger than me
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and she had so many friends.
One of those things where she'sjust like, oh my god, there's
gonna be 47 people there and I'mlike, great, so we just take
this is when I lived in savannah, planned a trip to atlanta.
When I tell you that there werelegitimately 15 women.
Okay, we had like four hotelrooms at the west end.
(21:55):
She wanted to do the wholestrip club situation well, this
all of sounds like my.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
If you're like here's the worst trip you could go on,
yeah, no, no, it was 15 womenin Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, well, calm down .
I was in my 20s and this waslike a big deal to her.
This is what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I am only just delivering a thing she wanted,
and I'm just saying you'redescribing my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Continue, it is a nightmare as I look back at it.
When I tell y'all that half thegroup got roofied I was in
charge I thought you were goingto say food poisoning.
Nope, Roofied.
I definitely think it wasroofied.
Maybe it was food poisoning.
Let me tell you why Differentsymptoms.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That is a very ambitious rapist Half the group.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, well, let me keep telling you about the group
.
So it wasn't all women.
There were two gay dudes in thegroup and they were having a
great time at the male stripclub.
Like inappropriate.
The girls didn't know what theywere doing.
The bride forgot to wearpanties, but she was pulled on
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the stage so it became superexplicit, like quotey fingers
forgot to wear, but you don'tforget to wear.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You just didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You just didn't wear, okay well, I was trying to be
nice.
Maybe she listens to this.
I'm not sure it's a long timeago, but what I can tell you she
probably does.
Um, what I can tell you is thatthe two dudes got roofied like
for real roofied, and the vanthe driver of the like party van
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was homophobic.
We didn't know that, butbecause the gay guys were like
really, really, I thought theywere just really drunk and I'm
like God and this is the kind ofthing where I was mother hen,
so I had like all just reallydrunk and I'm like God and this
was the kind of thing where Iwas mother hen, so I had like
all the dollar bills and I'mlike you can't sit next to the
stage unless you're giving money.
Like it's like a whole thing,okay, and we're talking about
(23:50):
like a different lifetime for me.
But we leave the van driver'shomophobic, he starts cussing
out the gay guys and I'm like,hey, man, we're not doing that.
Like, just take us to our hotel.
We get out.
One of them gets what I thoughthe was.
He got sick on the on theelevator going to the like top
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of the thing.
I'm dying.
All the girls go to their room.
I wake up in the middle of thenight and one of the gay guys is
peeing on the window.
Like this was like a disasterand I thought to myself even in
my mid-20s.
I was like never again, I willnever do another trip like a
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disastrous, quintessential firstmarriage.
Like I wanted this trashywhatever and not to say she was,
she wasn't, she was just youngand wanted that experience.
I've never wanted that.
I don't have been marriedsometimes.
I just never wanted to do this,never, never.
But that is what happened.
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It was a disaster.
And the other one lockedhimself in the bathroom and was
in the shower for like forever.
But I definitely feel like atleast the two dudes were roofied
.
But two of the girls also saidthey felt like because they,
like couldn't keep their craptogether.
They only had three drinks likeover the course of not the guys
, come with the girls the guysonly had three drinks that you
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know of I I
Speaker 3 (25:17):
we.
I used to have a guy that Iworked with but he was also a
friend, but we knew each otherthrough work who had a drinking
problem.
But he would just routinely belike, yeah, somebody put
something in my drink and he wasthe kind of person who would
pee in the corner of the room atthe hotel and stuff.
And it was always like, yeah, Igot roofied I don't know what.
And it's like, no, dude, youjust have a drinking problem.
(25:38):
But it was all the time he gotroofied I was like no, no, he
didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I definitely knew these guys very closely and had
never seen them behave this wayEver.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Look, whatever Y'all need to tell yourselves for this
story.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
But that just sounds really awful.
The reason I'm telling thestory is because it was really
awful and I think, like ifyou're in your 20s, I don't even
know if those are things peoplestill do it feels kind of like
I don't know, Like is that athing that people do for
bachelorette parties now?
Like, do they even do that?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh, I haven't been to one in quite some time and I
declined most of them, so Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I think, like when you think about when you're
traveling in your 20s, it'sdifferent than when you when
you're in your 30s or your 40s,I do think, because it is a
little bit more like you madeevery mistake you could possibly
make in college and in yourearly 20s by saying yes to a
trip where you didn't knoweverybody.
That's a disaster, I think.
Saying yes to a trip wherethere's that one person that's
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just high maintenance and theworst and complains about
everything, like you've alreadydone that trip, you know how it
is, you know what it's like tolet the control freak on your
trip the one, not the Claire,not the good one, not the one
that you're like.
Oh, she was so thoughtful, shethought of all the things we
didn't think about.
See, you're welcome, I wouldtravel.
I have traveled with you and Iloved it.
(27:04):
It was very relaxed.
But anyways, I 100 would not goback and do what I did in my
20s ever again how did we get tocalifornia on that trip?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
where did we fly to?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
what were we?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
doing was this a dream no, I remember it
happening in like 20.
Who are we meeting with?
Were we on?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
site.
Oh yeah, okay, I.
You were already there for workand I flew in and ubered to the
place where staying, before wewent on site in california the
hotel, the hotel got it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, you had a hotel and I just came and crashed
with Place where I was stayingbefore we went to on-site in
California.
The hotel, the hotel Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it.
You had a hotel and I just cameand crashed with you the night.
Yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This isn't like gross , horrifying or drugged, but I
remember two of my friends weredoing internships in New York
when we were 20.
And so I went and stayed withthem and it was like they came
of age in Manhattan without me.
It was just the weirdest thing.
They were so cold.
They put me in the bunk room,which I say that it was a
(28:11):
stunning apartment in ColumbusCircle.
It was crazy nice.
But they just didn't want to dothese things that I wanted to
do and I had made some plans.
They mean-girled you becausethey mean-girled me Because they
were just New Yorkers and youknow when you switch from
calling it Like they really wereNew Yorkers or they were
pretending to be New Yorkers.
No, Once you change from callingit like Manhattan or New York
(28:34):
to the city you've turned on meOkay so there's, there's the
city and um, so I made us thiswas wicked, had like just come
out, so because we I know wecouldn't drink, so like wicked
was still really new and my dadknew somehow somebody.
(28:57):
We had some crazy connectionand we just got like crazy good
seats at wicked and then we justlike don't really do shows
until, like I have and.
Wicked's like new and excitingat this point.
And then there was a restaurantit's probably still there, I
think it's in Chelsea called thecafeteria, and it was this like
24-hour diner, but they hadreally good food and so, like I
(29:18):
get us a reservation, or thatwas my plan and they're like so.
So like right before the showI'm sure I had on like a nice
little outfit and I was readyand they were like we're just
not going to go.
So they've just like I've donethat.
I learned a lot about how toget around New York I'm sorry,
the city, that trip.
Like I learned how to use thesubway.
They like wanted nothing to dowith me, it was, I know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I do not like this story.
Kill me their names and phonenumbers.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, wait, there's a funny part to this story.
So I sell the other two ticketsbecause I'm like, well, I got
them for free, I'll get someextra cash.
And I sold them for a lot Imean fair, but they were
expensive tickets.
So I get this cash and I go seeWicked next to the people I
sell the tickets to.
And the last scene beforeintermission is defying gravity,
(30:02):
okay, and I guess I likeblacked out.
I don't know what happened.
You were refeed, I was refeed,nope Sober, wasn't even old
enough to drink and could notpass with the fake ID.
But like it ends and I had liketears streaming down my face
and I look at the guy and hiswife.
(30:24):
I was like that was so good andthey're like you aren't so bad
yourself.
I had been fucking singing likeright there the whole time, I
don't fucking know.
But then I was like I, I wantto go home I need to beam myself
out of here as quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It's where you want to melt into the floor.
You pretend pass out aftersomething like that, so I sang.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Defying Gravity, unbeknownst to me because I'd
had a very emotional experience.
And then I go to thatrestaurant by myself Totally
fine to eat alone, still loveeating alone and I get back and
they're like we went and triedthat restaurant and I'll never
forget what they said.
It actually was really good andI was like fuck all of you
people, but I really wasindependent in the city.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm mad at them right now.
I do not like this at all.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
While we're on the city, take it or leave it.
A few years after that, I wason this kick of just really
finding myself and instead ofmaybe, like I don't know,
reading a book on it orsomething, I decide I'm going to
go to a Buddhist monastery ofcourse, in New.
York, as one does go on.
(31:36):
It's 25.
It was my 25th birthday and mymom was in New York first, and
so we met in the city and it wasthe best.
We had like the best few daysshopping, eating.
It was so fun.
Um, she took me to Tiffany.
I still wear it.
She bought me this prettylittle silver band at Tiffany's
for my 25th birthday.
It was just a precious trip.
And then I was supposed to geton a bus, not supposed to.
(31:58):
I did, so I get on a bus and Iforget the bus station in New
York.
It's disgusting.
Anyways, I was like this is amistake Immediately.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm like who am I?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
When you said bus, I was like no, oh, but I was like
full 20-something hippie kidgoing to take my bus like a bat.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You were a pretend hippie, totally 100% so.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I ride this bus and I will never forget turning
around and seeing the skylinebehind me and being like this
feels so wrong to be leavingthis.
So Woodstock's gorgeous, by theway.
I'm like this will be fine.
So I get to this monastery.
It's also stunningly beautifuland it is led by Zazen monks and
(32:43):
they can be male or female and,uh, the first day I'm still
super excited.
And then I'm put in like a bunkroom of these, like wooden
bunks with mattresses as thin aspaper with tons of not getting
a good rating on airbnb.
I can tell you that right now noso bad, and the first part of
the retreat was a silent retreatwhere you did all of the chores
(33:04):
of the monastery in silence asa form of meditation oh, uh-huh,
I see what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, see yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, this is a great rite of passage for you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And I'm like I'll never forget.
I had to chop like 50 pounds ofbasil and I was like this is
what it takes to like find outwho I am.
And then you would meditate forhours and hours in this like
(33:36):
sanctuary, for lack of a betterword.
If you slouched or looked likeyou were falling asleep, a monk
would pop you on your shoulderswith a stick so you would
straighten up.
I could like sense them coming,so I would just always be like
I never got popped, but everyonearound me got popped see, I'm
mad at the monks, like you weremad at the mean girls yeah, but
poor like yeah, I had a cellphone.
I guess iphones were out.
But because people, when I'vetold that story, they're like
why didn't you leave?
(33:56):
It didn't occur to me that Icould just be like this isn't
for me.
It was like I gotta get throughthis.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Hey, listen, you don't know that when you're 25,
you actually don't.
I'm telling you, no one does.
I feel like if you're 25 andyou're listening right now, it
is totally okay.
If you still think you have tofinish bad books, stay for
shitty movies, eat a crappy meal, stay at a monastery with monks
who beat you, like it is okayIf you're that person.
(34:25):
I was also 25 and believe thosethings.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I have night terrors, not often, but when they happen
.
And if you don't know thedifference, it's atrocious to be
next to the person.
Wait, is this like?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
will ferrell and like stepbrothers, night terrors,
where they get up and they'relike making a bunch of food and
throwing it at each other I didthat, but, um, mine's usually
really scary.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Sometimes my eyes are open and I'm seeing a dream,
but I look like I'm present withyou, so it's very scary for
people that are with me, sopossession.
It's really unpleasant okay, Ihave some funny ones, which this
isn't we'll do a dream episodeor sleep study episode, but
point being, they're really,it's really loud.
When this happens to me and ithappens when I'm in high stress
(35:08):
times in my life well, I had oneat the monastery, in the bunk
room and I was and when I wakeup I'm usually like, or I'm
usually woken up because I'vescared the shit out of somebody.
Um, when I awoke or was shakenby this really nice lady, I was
shaking the um ladder of thebunk bed saying I've got to get
(35:31):
out of here, I've got to get outof here, and that sweet lady
like tucked me in and put meback to bed.
But you know, the other womenin there were just like laying
there, like what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, they definitely were like she's demon possessed
.
She needs to be here, so I waslike yeah we're not letting her
leave.
Let's put her back to bedhappened, wicked too maybe no, I
was wide I was passionate andwicked, so passionate so those
are my sad, sad travel stories Idon't know, those are pretty
great.
(36:02):
I do think we everybody has togive one piece of travel advice,
like, as people are planning,you're planning your travel for
with your tier one friends,hopefully, okay, unless you're
young and you're going on thesilent retreat which obviously
is going to be great for you.
You're going to chop lots ofbasil and probably get beat by a
monk, but what's your piece oftravel advice for people who are
(36:22):
planning to take their tripsthis year?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Keep it simple.
When you're in the new placeand you say to your friend or
spouse or partner, I couldtotally live here, that's not
true, you're just enjoyingvisiting there.
And I'm going to say, for mepersonally, tier one only just
makes it easier and you don'thave to include everybody,
(36:45):
that's okay, or you're going toend up with the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Oh God, Let us rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That version of me all that and go ahead and
preemptively download all thepodcasts you want to listen to,
and then some to have all thatstuff in case you have bad
reception or whatever, becauseyeah it's just a nice little
escape in case you need ittraveling.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh yeah, podcast is one of the best parts about
traveling I don't know if weshould put this in or not, but I
forgot to mention that, um, wetook our boys on an
international trip like twoyears ago and we were like, wow,
this is going to be thegreatest gift ever, and they
were actually just littleassholes who totally did not
appreciate it at all.
So traveling with family can belike really tricky.
The other thing is Shane askedme to make all the reservations
because we were with our kids,so we needed to have a place to
(37:29):
stay in every city we were goingto and he Clark have a place to
stay in every city we weregoing to.
And he clark griswold thatthing and drove 1200 miles from
paris to italy so exciting inthe worst little station wagon
situation of all time, and he'dbe so mad.
He'd be like the swiss alps andthe kids are like sleeping in
the back seat, like totally notgiving a shit, and he'd be like
these assholes.
I'm like I know, um, but we,every time we got to a new place
(37:53):
, without fail, every time weget there, and I'd be like, oh
my god, so charming, like inthis great little village,
whatever.
When I tell you, shane wouldimmediately open his laptop and
start looking for a better placeto stay, because he didn't
believe that the place that Ihad gotten us and I was like you
will be murdered.
On this trip.
You will be you approved all ofthese places.
You will get murdered.
(38:15):
So my travel advice is to letthe person who is the most picky
for sure Make the decisions,because that way they cannot
bitch, because they will bitch.
If they're picky, they willfind a reason to bitch, and it's
okay If you're traveling withsomeone who's particular,
normally it's better for all ofus.
(38:35):
They make those decisions inthe control.
Give them the control, let goand let god, as I say.
So I will say that would be onepiece of advice.
The second piece of advice istier one.
I'm with y'all on tier one.
Only I'm old enough now.
And, by the way, if somethingsucks, just leave.
You can leave leave, leave.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I left for my honeymoon, the first one I hated
it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Last thing, and I'll make it so quick, but when I was
in elementary school, thisfriend of mine invited me to go
to Six Flags for two days.
Who does that Like?
Now?
That's so weird looking back.
So it was a hotel.
We're going to go for a a day,then spend the night at hotel do
(39:19):
it again the next day, but theywere like uh like he got
limousines every uh birthday andstuff in elementary school.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Fancy loves those.
Yeah, sure uh.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So they probably had a garage fridge probably you
know they did so the mom it wasjust me and him and his mom and
of course she like found all thestuff wrong with the hotel and
I was looking around like whatthis is great, what are you
talking about?
And so we upped and just cameback to Birmingham.
Now we did come back to makehim happy, so he wouldn't throw
a fit, she got a penthouse atWinfrey or something for us for
(39:46):
a night, but then that justmeant the next day we were just
heading back to their house andmy parents were going to come
pick me up.
We were just heading back totheir house and my parents are
going to come pick me up.
But, boy, the dad did notexpect that.
He thought we were going to bein Atlanta for two days.
And, holy moly, talk aboutwalking in Like as a kid.
I don't even know what.
What did you see?
Well, the lady wasn't there anylonger.
(40:08):
But all of the evidence of thelady was there All of the
underwear, the all kinds ofstuff.
Yeah, Whoa.
Disaster.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Third grade.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Wow, that's kind of like a.
That's that age where you go.
Oh shit, it's not a fairy tale,something very bad and there's
no cell phone.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So I have to wait for her, for, like, she's using the
phone calling all these peopleand whatever and I have to sit
through all of it before I canbe like can I use the phone now?
Can I call my mom?
Do you think maybe my mom could?
Come pick me up, because thisis weird, for me Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Okay, so definitely make sure that you're
strategically planning to dowhatever kind of shady shit you
might be doing too I'm justkidding.
Don't do anything shady.
Be good to people, be good toeach other.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
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Speaker 1 (41:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I have worked in mental health for many years in
lots of capacities and this is areally important time to tell
you our big disclaimer this isnot therapy.
We are not your therapists orcoaches or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you shouldn't really trust us very
much at all, unless you want toand it turns out well, then you
can trust us, that's great.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Where in the United States would you like to go that
you've never been?
What's a bucket list place inthe United States?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Montana.
I want to do a dude ranch inMontana.
I want to go pretend like I'm agirl who wears boots and jeans
and rides horses and lives onthe land, but only for a couple
hours, to get some good photosand see some mountains.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I could help accommodate that.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'd like, I'd like to do that.
You're invited, Wilbur.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh, the Redwoods it's like the that and Napa are the
only I swear like because oftouring like over and over.
Those are the two spots.
Everyone else I'm like oh yeah,at least I've been there for a
day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I've never done Redwoods either, and I'd love to
do it.
What about you, great Lakes?
I want to sit in like a littlecabin with a lake view and you
know I want it to be warm butnot hot.
Maybe it never gets hot, Iwould know.
I haven't been, you know, but Ihave some visions of mahjong
and knitting and outdoor timeand I imagine there's quaint
cafes and bookstores yeah, I'venever been to the UP as I say
(01:49):
right Claire just wrote a uh, aromance novel like setting like
I just took this girl's trip andI was knitting and all this.
I would have had to like lose mybakery business first, you know
of course, you're on the heelsof a tremendous loss.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You have only just the amount of money it will take
to, can I?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
escape to the UP UP when a shirtless angler came.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Named Bobby.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Even though it is still cold outside.
This is the time of year wherepeople are thinking about the
trips they want to take with thepeople that they love, they
want to make memories with.
It's like bucket list time,like are you going international
?
How many times are you going tothe beach, like you know?
Is there a mountain trip onyour radar?
Are you hanging out at the lakefor a weekend or a long weekend
(02:41):
, like with great friends?
And we're going to talk abouthow disastrous it can be if you
just have one person, oh god,who just doesn't travel well
with you and your crew I umwould like to say that the first
born females of a family Iwould say are typically pretty
(03:03):
good travelers, according tothemselves.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I am the first born female.
I love an itinerary, I love aplan.
Oh, if y'all can stop.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No, no, you're good.
What we love that Y'all are allmoaning.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Like ugh, ugh.
I was silent.
I was giving feedback.
You were making faces, facesmoving were making faces, faces.
Maybe I was silent.
This is an audio platform.
I saw you through my littlering over here go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, I think we get a bad rap because of our um,
maybe I would call itdecisiveness and enthusiasm, and
that's been perceived ascontrolling, oh and bitchy, and
I disagree with that.
I have learned to relax a lotover the years, but I do love a
(03:50):
plan.
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I feel like a lot of times your trips are with a lot
of people right, Like y'all dobig family vacations.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's a lost fucking cause.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You might need an itinerary.
You've had to really go and letGod on those trips, those I let
go and let God on Fairmanfamily vacations.
I just like she tried for solong to just be defeated and
beat down, so she had to let itgo and let God yeah, and of
course my mom's gonna come up inthis.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
She, she, just my mom's a step worse than me, only
child female.
So she's like what we're eatingfor lunch today is this.
I've already packed 17sandwiches and you're like, yeah
, that's what I'm eating forlunch today, you know.
So there's like a nice quality,you don't really have to do
anything.
I'm talking like, maybe agirl's trip, here's my, my thing
.
If I, if Laura, was like, hey,let's fly to New York for the
(04:37):
weekend, I wouldn't be like,okay, from 8 to 8 50, we're
gonna do this.
I like to budget my timebecause it is valuable to me to
make sure I get the most out ofit, and some of that might be
scheduled time of doing nothing.
I'd like to move on from me.
Scheduled time of doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm a pick a destination, like have a flight
in, have a flight out, figureout what happens when we get
there.
I treat every place I gowhether I've been there a
hundred times or I've never beenthere before like I'll come
back, because if I like it, I'llcome back.
You're so relaxed.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, I'm, I'm that's, that's surprising, that's truly
surprising.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm a flexible traveler.
I I don't so much of my lifehas to be scheduled that when it
comes to travel, I just like.
I'm such a curious person thatI kind of like just letting
whatever's gonna happen happen.
So it's not that I don't lookand you don't make a dinner
reservation, not until, like I'mlike we want to do dinner in
two hours let's see what's up.
(05:35):
That's so brave.
Listen.
Shane and I went on a honey,our honeymoon.
We only had a flight in toParis and a flight out of Paris
three weeks apart.
We had no reservation anywhere.
We made everything on theflight there, like hotels and
like where we're going to hop,and we loved it so much.
Again, so much of our life hasto be scheduled because of work.
(05:57):
That is kind of this like fun,like whatever, but that's one
side of me.
I also.
I am cool with a Claire in thegroup.
That does not bother me, Iactually like it.
I like for you to have done theresearch, you plan the things,
as long as you're not likewhipping me, I'm very adaptable.
(06:18):
Yeah, you know we have to leavein five minutes to be at
so-and-so.
That's the kind of shit thatmakes me fall for radar.
Okay, yeah, you would do that.
I will say in regards to justlike a not my favorite
experience and now, if you'relistening, I love you so much.
So just know that my sister,who is an angel, like a literal
(06:40):
Disney character level human wetraveled a couple years ago to
St Thomas and all I wanted to dowas eat tacos and like they
have this like beach and on StJohn's where you can like swim
with the big turtles and likehang out, and like I just wanted
to eat tacos, drink margaritas,swim with those turtles, take a
(07:05):
couple pics, get the hell outof there.
This bitch pulls up all trailsand she's like I feel like what
about?
Like a quick hike?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
like just a quick hike, and I was like remind our
listeners you chose to hike 18miles in alaska because oprah
did it all right.
Well, that is different.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That was a because Oprah did it All right.
Well, that is different.
That was a Oprah did it.
I didn't know.
It was 18 miles.
I would have never agreed tothat either.
With this, she said a quickhike.
She promised it would bring usback to the beach with the tacos
and the turtles, when I telly'all it was 9,000 degrees, it
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ended up being five miles acrossthe island.
We never saw that beach again,ever.
We hitchhiked because I was somad and hot and disgusting
looking.
I also had a little Elizabethin my hair then when we went a
couple years ago A couple crisesI've had over the years,
anyways and she was so chillabout it.
(08:06):
And what I need y'all to know isthis is the the thing about my
sister.
She is so laid back, she's notgoing to push, she'll go with
the flow, but she will fuckingclose those rings on her little
Apple watch.
There will be a ring closingand when I closed the ring I
don't have an Apple watchanymore because I hated it so
much but when I had to close it,you know I was like closing
(08:28):
that thing with 400 calories,you know, like a couple thousand
steps.
I wasn't trying to be ambitious.
Sure, when she closes it, likeshe, she 15,000 steps.
Not 150 miles.
Like is the kind of bike ridesshe does in like one day or two
days or whatever.
I'm like who are you?
You psycho anyways.
(08:48):
So to sum up our trip, Iremember this moment while I'm
watching sun set on the thepatio of this, overlooking St
Thomas really mad.
Never saw the turtles, nevergot the tacos, went on a long
ass.
I'm sure my body appreciated it, but I was pissed and I look
back in the room while I'mjournaling about the day and
(09:11):
this bitch is doing squats andlunges across the hotel room and
I was like we're not the same.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You got to close those rings.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean, we're just not the same and I love her and
if you're listening and I knowyou probably are I love you so
much and I admire your passionto health and you will be 85 and
can still open a jar of picklesand climb 30 steps stair cases.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, I bet you're a really easy traveler.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, so we're well I mean in the sense of, in the
sense of here's the deal.
I Well, I mean in the sense ofhere's the deal I'm not going to
travel with a big group, I'mjust not.
Yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Just because I want to, even if you're related to
them, oh, yeah, oh especially ifyou're related, I mean you know
how much I love my family.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We just don't, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, some stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The.
Fairmans are special I get itand stuff, but we haven't.
We've all been so busy.
We haven't done that in a fewyears.
So, generally speaking, like weare, I think, going to Alaska
in a few months, she's got ahike to recommend I've got you
covered.
We are going to do some hikes.
But we're not going to plan anyof that.
We're going to plan our flightsand our first night hotel and
that's it, and then it's goingto be wherever we end up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hotels tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
My friend, nick, and I do these trips where we go fly
to a city.
The last one was Denver andwe're going to end up in LA and
we have seven days to do it onthese motorcycles and we only
plan the first night's hotel,that's it, and that's it.
And then every day it's likeall right now, where do we want
to go?
And if we can't get there, itsnows or rains or something we
can change.
So that's generally.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
If we go to the beach , uh, we go once a year for
seven days we book one dinnerand that's it, and the rest of
it we cook it's the only placeI'm relaxed.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What's that?
There's no other plan.
And if people want to gosomewhere that we are with,
let's say there's like four ofus or five, and the final one is
like all right y'all have fun.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We'll see when you get back I think that you know
there is the non-plan plan whenyou go to the beach, where you
don't really have to have a planbecause the plan is we're going
to the beach and then you knoweverything's accessible,
whatever.
I think what is reallyinteresting to me is in my 20s
and 30s, when I'd plan, like agirl's trip, there'd always be
the girl.
(11:20):
I had to explain to the rest ofmy friends Like're always.
I cannot think of one timewhere I didn't have to be like
listen, she's going to complainabout every food item that hits
the table.
She's going to like taste thetea in front of the server to
make sure that it's good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's like a bachelorette trip.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
No, like well, I mean , I had several, obviously, but
there's just girls trips whereeveryone's not tier one.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's good.
Is it like a bachelorette trip?
No, like well.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, I had several , obviously, but there's just
girls trips where everyone's nottier one In my early.
That's a great question In myearly 20s and 30s 100%, and I
learned a lot from that.
Now, when I plan a trip, Idon't ever have to worry Because
, like everybody is.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Tier one.
Well, and most of them areconnected enough to know whether
or not they would say yes or noto a trip only travel, it's
here 100 like oh, we're bloodrelations in the same place,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But like, if we're like meeting up in a city and
like you're there and I'm thereand we have our own
accommodations, yeah, whatever,yeah, that's fine.
I also had a girlfriend say,like I think what's important is
to know the people, to know whoyou can trust and who you
cannot trust with accommodations, Because this is a big deal.
Shane went on a guy's trip andShane bougie, so he needs to
(12:39):
like, he's got to have controlof like where somebody's staying
.
So there's this group of guysthat goes to this one game I
think it's like the TexasAlabama game or I don't remember
what game it is like every yearand he finally like, he's like,
yeah, I'll go.
He said there were roaches inthe Airbnb and it was like a
disaster and they were like well, it was only $28 a person.
(13:00):
And he's like well, no shit.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It was so like there's that too, like who's in
charge of accommodations, I canliterally eat dinner at a gas
station, and I mean that myfavorite one is the floor alley
gas station, where they havefried chicken, livers and
gizzards.
Delish they run out fast on asunday though, um, but I have to
sleep in complete cleanliness.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It is the thing that I feel like I would rather
invest in.
I'd rather only eat one coolmeal a day and like kind of
skimp on everything else, but Iwant to stay in a nice hotel.
I just want to stay in a nicehotel.
I want the bed to becomfortable.
I don't want to ever have toworry about cleanliness like
that Cannot be a thing.
Um, and I want the mattress tobe comfortable.
Like Don't want to ever have toworry about cleanliness that
cannot be a thing.
And I want the mattress to becomfortable.
(13:46):
We too old to be getting kinksin our neck.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What's up.
I can agree with that For sure.
Even touring when we were notmaking a ton of money, we would
still.
It was a hotel.
We didn't sleep on people'sfloors, we didn't crash or find
a place.
No, that was the agreement.
We didn't care on some of thetours, like we bought clay.
Clay slept in vans like he'slike yeah and then the other
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tours was like nicer and likewhatever.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But on the, the indie tours or whatever that was, the
goal was to everybody gets ahotel every night, and then
we're good I don't like to stayat other people's houses unless
we are like incredibly close,and even then I would prefer
just to like kind of do my ownthing.
I get a little bit of anxiety.
Um, when bobby and I starteddating, we went to stay with his
(14:35):
really good friend and hisgirlfriend in pensacola and, um,
I was really anxious, like Idid, I'd never met them.
Can we just say how brave thator maybe maybe had a beer with
them or something, but it wasvery light.
They're amazing people, so thishas nothing to do with them.
Um, but in their guest room,the um, the bed I don't even
(14:59):
know how to describe it otherthan like the center of the bed
was up and the longer we slepteach side was was going in.
So we're like rolling, rolling,bleep it.
Bobby's rolling into the walland I'm rolling onto the floor
and so we're like fuck it.
So like we flip to the otherside.
We just are trying to sleeplike the wrong way.
(15:20):
Whatever Bobby is like is likewell, like no conflict, like he
will just deal with it, you know, so I have to.
I don't barely know thesepeople.
So like I am also going tosleep sideways for the next few
nights.
Um, and they eat dinner likenine or ten grandma eats, like I
was asleep, sitting up whenthey were like dinner's ready.
(15:41):
No, I heard them in that likehalf wake, half sleeping, like I
bet our guests are gettinghungry, and I was like sleep
laughing, and I'm like I'm sohungry I'm not hungry anymore,
like I'm past, so we, we leave,and I'm like I was like I can't
do it again.
I love them, I want to befriends with them.
(16:01):
I will travel with them.
I cannot sleep there again.
And Bobby's like I think thatthe uh box spring was upside
down, oh yeah.
And I'm like how, how do you dothat?
So we go back like six monthslater and I'm like I, I'll give
it one more time, like that.
That's it.
(16:22):
You're so brave.
I would be like no, we're gonnahotel, it was everything was
like now.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
There's a mystery to solve well, bobby's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
He's like, hey man, uh, just so, you know, last time
we were kind of rolling awayfrom the bed and the guy's like
you know, my mom or dad orwhoever said the same thing and
we're like we think your boxspring is upside down and he's
like there's no way.
And then he lifted up and solike the mattress was just like
curling up into this thing.
So after like those instances,I'm like I will pay whatever I
(16:51):
have to pay.
I will use whatever Marriottpoints I have stashed away, just
so I have control over mybedtime, my dining rituals and
my skincare routine.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's true, I have a thing Staying at people's houses
.
I've got to know you deeplyknow you Stay at my sister's
house.
I obviously would stay at bestfriend's house.
Tier one, Tier one.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Top of tier one.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Top, top, top, top, top, top of tier one, Top of
tier one, tier one, top of tierone, top, top, top, top of tier
one, top of tier one.
And it's funny because, like,even, like, even in my, like,
obviously, shelly tier one Istay with her and, like you know
, we're like slumber partybecause we don't get to see each
other like all the time.
So I'm like in her bed, likewe're like what are you doing?
What's been up?
We're like scrolling throughwhatever that's tier tier one,
top of the top, top, top.
And she's got like 700 kidsover there.
(17:46):
But, like, even with my family,I'm getting a hotel room.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Especially.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Definitely getting a hotel.
Not me, not this girl oh no,you're like pile them all in
here.
We are making a Griswold familysituation out of this.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There are only four or five adults that I can think
of, that I will ride in a carwith for longer than 30 minutes
or something.
Oh, I want my car for sure,yeah, but like even just in the
same car for a long period oftime, me and Shane will drive
separate to Nashville.
Oh, I like Danielle.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
No, no, listen, but I love him, but if it's work time
when we're leaving, I'm notlistening to have 30 like his
business?
Yeah, it's like and then I havea business call and then it's a
disaster.
There have been times whereI've had to crawl to the very
back of the car to try and like,huddle down and be on a call.
While he's on a call, I'm likenever again.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Bobby doesn't even like like.
If I'm at my office he's on acall, I'm like never again.
Bobby doesn't even like like.
If I'm at my office and he's atthe house, I'm like hey, do you
want to meet to eat dinner?
He's like well, I mean, willyou at least pick me up so we
can ride together?
He does not like to even drive10 minutes alone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, I'll drive alone all day.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Same.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I love alone time in a car, my friend who lives right
here across the street, who'smy best friend.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Did you just move in yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I did just a week ago , two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's awesome.
Do you all spend the night eachother?
We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But he owns an insulation business, right, and
so he's the only one of ourfriends who has to make work
phone calls on trips.
And it's really funny becausewhen you do an insulation job,
the spray foam that's calledgiving a blowjob.
And so he just constantly onour beach trips, is telling
people and they just skim rightover it Like all right, so you
(19:32):
have two blowjobs here today andit is the best, we just all
giggle.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We got 13 blowjobs on the schedule for today.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You think they would change what that's called, but
they just call it that andthat's what it is what would you
call it?
Um, yeah, that's great.
Uh, a job, a job beat.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
No, I don't know see I think blowjob is the only way
to go.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's what it is I'd maybe just say insulation
installation, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
A spray job, a spray job which also has connotations.
That also sounds pretty, yes,yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I actually think I like blowjob better than spray
job.
I guess we want you to do 12spray jobs today.
I think you can get that in.
It's definitely not as bad asblowjob yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It's a little softer.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
The first thing that came to my mind when you started
this episode was like one timesomeone brought a date, like a
new person, on our big beachtrip.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The Karen of the group.
Oh, just a disaster.
Go ahead and tell that story.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, I mean I don't know that, I want to get into
specifics, but this could besomebody who definitely listens.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Same with the one I have.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, my sister's going to hear same with the one
I have, um, yeah, just newpeople.
So so one of my big things isI'm just done with new people
coming on trips.
We're past that now, likeyou're too old for that yeah,
we're just done like, if youhave someone new, y'all do a
trip.
You guys do a trip, we're notgonna do that as part of our one
beach trip a year yeah, yeah,okay, okay yeah I think what's
(21:03):
the rest of the story?
yeah, every time I'm like oh,because I, because here's what I
can.
Then I'm like no, I can't saythat publicly.
No, I can't say that bachelor.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I planned a bachelorette party for a young
woman.
I was also young.
I was in my 20s, she was in her20s, she was younger than me
(21:34):
and she had so many friends.
One of those things where she'sjust like, oh my god, there's
gonna be 47 people there and I'mlike, great, so we just take
this is when I lived in savannah, planned a trip to atlanta.
When I tell you that there werelegitimately 15 women.
Okay, we had like four hotelrooms at the west end.
(21:55):
She wanted to do the wholestrip club situation well, this
all of sounds like my.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
If you're like here's the worst trip you could go on,
yeah, no, no, it was 15 womenin Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, well, calm down .
I was in my 20s and this waslike a big deal to her.
This is what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I am only just delivering a thing she wanted,
and I'm just saying you'redescribing my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Continue, it is a nightmare as I look back at it.
When I tell y'all that half thegroup got roofied I was in
charge I thought you were goingto say food poisoning.
Nope, Roofied.
I definitely think it wasroofied.
Maybe it was food poisoning.
Let me tell you why Differentsymptoms.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
That is a very ambitious rapist Half the group.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, well, let me keep telling you about the group
.
So it wasn't all women.
There were two gay dudes in thegroup and they were having a
great time at the male stripclub.
Like inappropriate.
The girls didn't know what theywere doing.
The bride forgot to wearpanties, but she was pulled on
(23:02):
the stage so it became superexplicit, like quotey fingers
forgot to wear, but you don'tforget to wear.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You just didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You just didn't wear, okay well, I was trying to be
nice.
Maybe she listens to this.
I'm not sure it's a long timeago, but what I can tell you she
probably does.
Um, what I can tell you is thatthe two dudes got roofied like
for real roofied, and the vanthe driver of the like party van
(23:30):
was homophobic.
We didn't know that, butbecause the gay guys were like
really, really, I thought theywere just really drunk and I'm
like God and this is the kind ofthing where I was mother hen,
so I had like all just reallydrunk and I'm like God and this
was the kind of thing where Iwas mother hen, so I had like
all the dollar bills and I'mlike you can't sit next to the
stage unless you're giving money.
Like it's like a whole thing,okay, and we're talking about
(23:50):
like a different lifetime for me.
But we leave the van driver'shomophobic, he starts cussing
out the gay guys and I'm like,hey, man, we're not doing that.
Like, just take us to our hotel.
We get out.
One of them gets what I thoughthe was.
He got sick on the on theelevator going to the like top
(24:11):
of the thing.
I'm dying.
All the girls go to their room.
I wake up in the middle of thenight and one of the gay guys is
peeing on the window.
Like this was like a disasterand I thought to myself even in
my mid-20s.
I was like never again, I willnever do another trip like a
(24:32):
disastrous, quintessential firstmarriage.
Like I wanted this trashywhatever and not to say she was,
she wasn't, she was just youngand wanted that experience.
I've never wanted that.
I don't have been marriedsometimes.
I just never wanted to do this,never, never.
But that is what happened.
(24:53):
It was a disaster.
And the other one lockedhimself in the bathroom and was
in the shower for like forever.
But I definitely feel like atleast the two dudes were roofied
.
But two of the girls also saidthey felt like because they,
like couldn't keep their craptogether.
They only had three drinks likeover the course of not the guys
, come with the girls the guysonly had three drinks that you
(25:15):
know of I I
Speaker 3 (25:17):
we.
I used to have a guy that Iworked with but he was also a
friend, but we knew each otherthrough work who had a drinking
problem.
But he would just routinely belike, yeah, somebody put
something in my drink and he wasthe kind of person who would
pee in the corner of the room atthe hotel and stuff.
And it was always like, yeah, Igot roofied I don't know what.
And it's like, no, dude, youjust have a drinking problem.
(25:38):
But it was all the time he gotroofied I was like no, no, he
didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I definitely knew these guys very closely and had
never seen them behave this wayEver.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Look, whatever Y'all need to tell yourselves for this
story.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
But that just sounds really awful.
The reason I'm telling thestory is because it was really
awful and I think, like ifyou're in your 20s, I don't even
know if those are things peoplestill do it feels kind of like
I don't know, Like is that athing that people do for
bachelorette parties now?
Like, do they even do that?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh, I haven't been to one in quite some time and I
declined most of them, so Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I think, like when you think about when you're
traveling in your 20s, it'sdifferent than when you when
you're in your 30s or your 40s,I do think, because it is a
little bit more like you madeevery mistake you could possibly
make in college and in yourearly 20s by saying yes to a
trip where you didn't knoweverybody.
That's a disaster, I think.
Saying yes to a trip wherethere's that one person that's
(26:43):
just high maintenance and theworst and complains about
everything, like you've alreadydone that trip, you know how it
is, you know what it's like tolet the control freak on your
trip the one, not the Claire,not the good one, not the one
that you're like.
Oh, she was so thoughtful, shethought of all the things we
didn't think about.
See, you're welcome, I wouldtravel.
I have traveled with you and Iloved it.
(27:04):
It was very relaxed.
But anyways, I 100 would not goback and do what I did in my
20s ever again how did we get tocalifornia on that trip?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
where did we fly to?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
what were we?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
doing was this a dream no, I remember it
happening in like 20.
Who are we meeting with?
Were we on?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
site.
Oh yeah, okay, I.
You were already there for workand I flew in and ubered to the
place where staying, before wewent on site in california the
hotel, the hotel got it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Okay, you had a hotel and I just came and crashed
with Place where I was stayingbefore we went to on-site in
California.
The hotel, the hotel Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it.
You had a hotel and I just cameand crashed with you the night.
Yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This isn't like gross , horrifying or drugged, but I
remember two of my friends weredoing internships in New York
when we were 20.
And so I went and stayed withthem and it was like they came
of age in Manhattan without me.
It was just the weirdest thing.
They were so cold.
They put me in the bunk room,which I say that it was a
(28:11):
stunning apartment in ColumbusCircle.
It was crazy nice.
But they just didn't want to dothese things that I wanted to
do and I had made some plans.
They mean-girled you becausethey mean-girled me Because they
were just New Yorkers and youknow when you switch from
calling it Like they really wereNew Yorkers or they were
pretending to be New Yorkers.
No, Once you change from callingit like Manhattan or New York
(28:34):
to the city you've turned on meOkay so there's, there's the
city and um, so I made us thiswas wicked, had like just come
out, so because we I know wecouldn't drink, so like wicked
was still really new and my dadknew somehow somebody.
(28:57):
We had some crazy connectionand we just got like crazy good
seats at wicked and then we justlike don't really do shows
until, like I have and.
Wicked's like new and excitingat this point.
And then there was a restaurantit's probably still there, I
think it's in Chelsea called thecafeteria, and it was this like
24-hour diner, but they hadreally good food and so, like I
(29:18):
get us a reservation, or thatwas my plan and they're like so.
So like right before the showI'm sure I had on like a nice
little outfit and I was readyand they were like we're just
not going to go.
So they've just like I've donethat.
I learned a lot about how toget around New York I'm sorry,
the city, that trip.
Like I learned how to use thesubway.
They like wanted nothing to dowith me, it was, I know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I do not like this story.
Kill me their names and phonenumbers.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, wait, there's a funny part to this story.
So I sell the other two ticketsbecause I'm like, well, I got
them for free, I'll get someextra cash.
And I sold them for a lot Imean fair, but they were
expensive tickets.
So I get this cash and I go seeWicked next to the people I
sell the tickets to.
And the last scene beforeintermission is defying gravity,
(30:02):
okay, and I guess I likeblacked out.
I don't know what happened.
You were refeed, I was refeed,nope Sober, wasn't even old
enough to drink and could notpass with the fake ID.
But like it ends and I had liketears streaming down my face
and I look at the guy and hiswife.
(30:24):
I was like that was so good andthey're like you aren't so bad
yourself.
I had been fucking singing likeright there the whole time, I
don't fucking know.
But then I was like I, I wantto go home I need to beam myself
out of here as quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It's where you want to melt into the floor.
You pretend pass out aftersomething like that, so I sang.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Defying Gravity, unbeknownst to me because I'd
had a very emotional experience.
And then I go to thatrestaurant by myself Totally
fine to eat alone, still loveeating alone and I get back and
they're like we went and triedthat restaurant and I'll never
forget what they said.
It actually was really good andI was like fuck all of you
people, but I really wasindependent in the city.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm mad at them right now.
I do not like this at all.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
While we're on the city, take it or leave it.
A few years after that, I wason this kick of just really
finding myself and instead ofmaybe, like I don't know,
reading a book on it orsomething, I decide I'm going to
go to a Buddhist monastery ofcourse, in New.
York, as one does go on.
(31:36):
It's 25.
It was my 25th birthday and mymom was in New York first, and
so we met in the city and it wasthe best.
We had like the best few daysshopping, eating.
It was so fun.
Um, she took me to Tiffany.
I still wear it.
She bought me this prettylittle silver band at Tiffany's
for my 25th birthday.
It was just a precious trip.
And then I was supposed to geton a bus, not supposed to.
(31:58):
I did, so I get on a bus and Iforget the bus station in New
York.
It's disgusting.
Anyways, I was like this is amistake Immediately.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm like who am I?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
When you said bus, I was like no, oh, but I was like
full 20-something hippie kidgoing to take my bus like a bat.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You were a pretend hippie, totally 100% so.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I ride this bus and I will never forget turning
around and seeing the skylinebehind me and being like this
feels so wrong to be leavingthis.
So Woodstock's gorgeous, by theway.
I'm like this will be fine.
So I get to this monastery.
It's also stunningly beautifuland it is led by Zazen monks and
(32:43):
they can be male or female and,uh, the first day I'm still
super excited.
And then I'm put in like a bunkroom of these, like wooden
bunks with mattresses as thin aspaper with tons of not getting
a good rating on airbnb.
I can tell you that right now noso bad, and the first part of
the retreat was a silent retreatwhere you did all of the chores
(33:04):
of the monastery in silence asa form of meditation oh, uh-huh,
I see what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, see yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, this is a great rite of passage for you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And I'm like I'll never forget.
I had to chop like 50 pounds ofbasil and I was like this is
what it takes to like find outwho I am.
And then you would meditate forhours and hours in this like
(33:36):
sanctuary, for lack of a betterword.
If you slouched or looked likeyou were falling asleep, a monk
would pop you on your shoulderswith a stick so you would
straighten up.
I could like sense them coming,so I would just always be like
I never got popped, but everyonearound me got popped see, I'm
mad at the monks, like you weremad at the mean girls yeah, but
poor like yeah, I had a cellphone.
I guess iphones were out.
But because people, when I'vetold that story, they're like
why didn't you leave?
(33:56):
It didn't occur to me that Icould just be like this isn't
for me.
It was like I gotta get throughthis.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Hey, listen, you don't know that when you're 25,
you actually don't.
I'm telling you, no one does.
I feel like if you're 25 andyou're listening right now, it
is totally okay.
If you still think you have tofinish bad books, stay for
shitty movies, eat a crappy meal, stay at a monastery with monks
who beat you, like it is okayIf you're that person.
(34:25):
I was also 25 and believe thosethings.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I have night terrors, not often, but when they happen
.
And if you don't know thedifference, it's atrocious to be
next to the person.
Wait, is this like?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
will ferrell and like stepbrothers, night terrors,
where they get up and they'relike making a bunch of food and
throwing it at each other I didthat, but, um, mine's usually
really scary.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Sometimes my eyes are open and I'm seeing a dream,
but I look like I'm present withyou, so it's very scary for
people that are with me, sopossession.
It's really unpleasant okay, Ihave some funny ones, which this
isn't we'll do a dream episodeor sleep study episode, but
point being, they're really,it's really loud.
When this happens to me and ithappens when I'm in high stress
(35:08):
times in my life well, I had oneat the monastery, in the bunk
room and I was and when I wakeup I'm usually like, or I'm
usually woken up because I'vescared the shit out of somebody.
Um, when I awoke or was shakenby this really nice lady, I was
shaking the um ladder of thebunk bed saying I've got to get
(35:31):
out of here, I've got to get outof here, and that sweet lady
like tucked me in and put meback to bed.
But you know, the other womenin there were just like laying
there, like what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, they definitely were like she's demon possessed
.
She needs to be here, so I waslike yeah we're not letting her
leave.
Let's put her back to bedhappened, wicked too maybe no, I
was wide I was passionate andwicked, so passionate so those
are my sad, sad travel stories Idon't know, those are pretty
great.
(36:02):
I do think we everybody has togive one piece of travel advice,
like, as people are planning,you're planning your travel for
with your tier one friends,hopefully, okay, unless you're
young and you're going on thesilent retreat which obviously
is going to be great for you.
You're going to chop lots ofbasil and probably get beat by a
monk, but what's your piece oftravel advice for people who are
(36:22):
planning to take their tripsthis year?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Keep it simple.
When you're in the new placeand you say to your friend or
spouse or partner, I couldtotally live here, that's not
true, you're just enjoyingvisiting there.
And I'm going to say, for mepersonally, tier one only just
makes it easier and you don'thave to include everybody,
(36:45):
that's okay, or you're going toend up with the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Oh God, Let us rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That version of me all that and go ahead and
preemptively download all thepodcasts you want to listen to,
and then some to have all thatstuff in case you have bad
reception or whatever, becauseyeah it's just a nice little
escape in case you need ittraveling.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh yeah, podcast is one of the best parts about
traveling I don't know if weshould put this in or not, but I
forgot to mention that, um, wetook our boys on an
international trip like twoyears ago and we were like, wow,
this is going to be thegreatest gift ever, and they
were actually just littleassholes who totally did not
appreciate it at all.
So traveling with family can belike really tricky.
The other thing is Shane askedme to make all the reservations
because we were with our kids,so we needed to have a place to
(37:29):
stay in every city we were goingto and he Clark have a place to
stay in every city we weregoing to.
And he clark griswold thatthing and drove 1200 miles from
paris to italy so exciting inthe worst little station wagon
situation of all time, and he'dbe so mad.
He'd be like the swiss alps andthe kids are like sleeping in
the back seat, like totally notgiving a shit, and he'd be like
these assholes.
I'm like I know, um, but we,every time we got to a new place
(37:53):
, without fail, every time weget there, and I'd be like, oh
my god, so charming, like inthis great little village,
whatever.
When I tell you, shane wouldimmediately open his laptop and
start looking for a better placeto stay, because he didn't
believe that the place that Ihad gotten us and I was like you
will be murdered.
On this trip.
You will be you approved all ofthese places.
You will get murdered.
(38:15):
So my travel advice is to letthe person who is the most picky
for sure Make the decisions,because that way they cannot
bitch, because they will bitch.
If they're picky, they willfind a reason to bitch, and it's
okay If you're traveling withsomeone who's particular,
normally it's better for all ofus.
(38:35):
They make those decisions inthe control.
Give them the control, let goand let god, as I say.
So I will say that would be onepiece of advice.
The second piece of advice istier one.
I'm with y'all on tier one.
Only I'm old enough now.
And, by the way, if somethingsucks, just leave.
You can leave leave, leave.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I left for my honeymoon, the first one I hated
it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Last thing, and I'll make it so quick, but when I was
in elementary school, thisfriend of mine invited me to go
to Six Flags for two days.
Who does that Like?
Now?
That's so weird looking back.
So it was a hotel.
We're going to go for a a day,then spend the night at hotel do
(39:19):
it again the next day, but theywere like uh like he got
limousines every uh birthday andstuff in elementary school.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Fancy loves those.
Yeah, sure uh.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So they probably had a garage fridge probably you
know they did so the mom it wasjust me and him and his mom and
of course she like found all thestuff wrong with the hotel and
I was looking around like whatthis is great, what are you
talking about?
And so we upped and just cameback to Birmingham.
Now we did come back to makehim happy, so he wouldn't throw
a fit, she got a penthouse atWinfrey or something for us for
(39:46):
a night, but then that justmeant the next day we were just
heading back to their house andmy parents were going to come
pick me up.
We were just heading back totheir house and my parents are
going to come pick me up.
But, boy, the dad did notexpect that.
He thought we were going to bein Atlanta for two days.
And, holy moly, talk aboutwalking in Like as a kid.
I don't even know what.
What did you see?
Well, the lady wasn't there anylonger.
(40:08):
But all of the evidence of thelady was there All of the
underwear, the all kinds ofstuff.
Yeah, Whoa.
Disaster.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Third grade.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Wow, that's kind of like a.
That's that age where you go.
Oh shit, it's not a fairy tale,something very bad and there's
no cell phone.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So I have to wait for her, for, like, she's using the
phone calling all these peopleand whatever and I have to sit
through all of it before I canbe like can I use the phone now?
Can I call my mom?
Do you think maybe my mom could?
Come pick me up, because thisis weird, for me Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Okay, so definitely make sure that you're
strategically planning to dowhatever kind of shady shit you
might be doing too I'm justkidding.
Don't do anything shady.
Be good to people, be good toeach other.
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