May 9, 2025 • 31 mins
In this inaugural "vindication episode," Laura and Claire are joined by Will's father, veteran radio host Bob Lochamy, to set the record straight on some of the show’s most memorable family stories. With wit and warmth, Bob revisits tales involving a Michael Jackson joke gone wrong, a softball injury mix-up, and even a surprising run-in with Taylor Swift. Along the way, he shares heartfelt wisdom on parenting and the importance of cherishing everyday moments. A funny, revealing look at how family legends evolve—and what really happened behind the stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to, before you Cut Bangs.
I'm Laura Quick and I'm ClaireFehrman.
I am a professional storytellerand I'm currently working on my
first book.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I have worked in mental health for many years in
lots of capacities and this is areally important time to tell
you our big disclaimer this isnot therapy.
We are not your therapists orcoaches or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you shouldn't really trust us very
much at all.
Unless you want to and it turnsout well, then you can trust us
.
That's great.
Storytelling is important.
Obviously, we love it the best.
My favorite part of telling asalacious story is just making
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people laugh Like I really wantto get that laugh.
Yeah, All right, what about you?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Or cry.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, I love to bring them to tears.
That's a win.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Laugh, cry on par, but we're connecting.
And when I was in fifth grade,I got an award called Let Me
Entertain you, and nothing hasfelt better in my life than that
day.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And my senior superlative, where everyone else
is getting best dressed and youknow, highest GPA.
I got class clown.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Did you get?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
anything Most theatric, but hang on, hang on.
Or dramatic, maybe, but here'sthe deal.
Most theatric, but hang on,hang on.
Or dramatic, maybe, but here'sthe deal, it's because Of the
world of Wheel.
It's because I actually starredin the play, in the big play,
junior year and senior year.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Can you tell us more about the play?
What was it called?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Guys and Dolls, that one and the Romancers.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Those two.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
This is a shocking so I wasn't like, personality-wise
, dramatic.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We know.
I didn't think you were layingon the floors crying at school.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, we thought it was a Phantom of the Opera type
of situation.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, it's a weird one, though, when I tell people
that, because I'm like no, Doyou want?
To check on her.
It's not my.
Yeah, this is another outsideepisode and yeah, we have birds,
we have cars, we have neighbors, we have stuff and you know,
maybe it picks up on the mic,maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You never know, but if you hear some chatter,
someone in a very animated phonecall.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Good for they're telling stories.
Probably, they probably areokay.
Well, interestingly enough, Igot a call from my sister who,
this last weekend, was like hey,I caught up on five episodes of
the podcast and I just wantedto let you know that I think you
guys have done enough episodeswhere it is finally time to let
people come and vindicatethemselves and tell their side
(02:41):
of the story.
And I was like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And I was like what do you mean?
What did she mean?
Like did we say somethingreally bad?
We?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm just being generous, what?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
did you do to her?
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't get.
I have some assumptions aboutsome things that maybe she feels
like I was less generous towardher in my storytelling.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You said she's like a Disney princess.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
She is all of that.
I think she'd like to come onand be like I'm not a Disney
princess, I'm a real girl.
I'm a real girl and I think shewould also like to be like.
Okay, first of all, I don'tknow, I don't want to speculate,
but I do think we need to justkind of lean into this idea.
And since our favorite uberdriver has some time on their
(03:28):
hands today, his name is boblock me yeah, it's my dad.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's my dad.
He's the only person I reallytalk much about on this show,
just because nick nick a littlebit, but I just tell like, oh,
this one time nick and I wentand did this thing or whatever.
I don't say Bob I've like toldstories that he would probably
cringe if he knew.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I told them OK, so he's going to come.
What did you tell him aboutthis invitation?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I said, hey, you know I produced this podcast and
they mentioned having you onbecause I've talked about you
and they want you to come kindof tell your side of those
stories.
He's like, okay, uh, is itgonna be about this and this?
And I said I can't tell youthat.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I said I don't want you to know beforehand, because
I don't want you to formulateknow how hardcore you've thrown
him under the bus?
Oh, he has an idea.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, he has an idea just because he knows it's he on
the radio show.
We talk about these stories allthe time, so he knows that it's
probably some embarrassingstories about him.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So for me it's my sister, obviously.
I mentioned Shelly a ton, andthen for you the main one is my
mother.
Obvious, Steph is going to comeafter you hard, I feel like on
a vindication episode.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's hard watching your parents talk publicly.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh yes, my whole life , oh yeah, my entire life,
luckily for you guys, my parentsare never going to read my book
and they are never going tolisten to this podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I know my parents don't know how to find
the podcast, but Steph, poorSteph.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But whatever she can come on, she's going to come on
Really let me have it, but we'regoing to start with Bob because
he's around the corner.
He's got just a little bit oftime before he has to pick up
the kids from school.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
All right, let's do it.
Here's my dad, bob Lockerbie.
It's interesting because Ireally don't like say as much
about my personal life as youguys do at all all Except for
Bob.
Except for Bob, Because there'ssome good stories.
I don't it's all positive stuff, but yeah, I mean, I mean it is
positive but it's positivelyfunny.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
His mom is relieved, but she's jealous too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, she's relieved.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
She's mostly relieved .
The microphone is not her front.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, I'd like to get a full picture of the family.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh yeah, we could do that at some point.
I'm mostly thankful so we couldask some questions about Will.
This is actually anintervention for Will All right,
let's start there, let's startthere she might be a good
subject then.
Okay, good, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well then, we always start with a warm-up question or
a mixer and buckle up.
Buddy, I think it's going to beour favorite quality about you
today.
This is like a Laura Quickthing where if you're at a
dinner table, she's like let'sall go around and put a fork in.
No, she'll say let's all goaround and answer this really
(06:21):
meaningful question.
So our warm-up instead of aridiculous question like what
makes you gag.
It's your quality of Will thatyou just really appreciate, gosh
.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
This is a big leap from I don't have a microphone
and I'm just producing the showto this.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I know, Now you're like the subject matter.
We're going to start with BobBob.
What's your favorite qualityabout Will?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Oh, let's see His energy, his energy when he's
awake, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When he's sleeping.
Oh because he knows, yeah, Ican't Now.
Look, I wake up now on my ownwith an alarm clock, that's good
to hear yeah, but back in theday it would take me, you know I
still I'd snooze for 30 minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's the most artist thing of all time, though.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well actually snoozing in the shower is risky
business.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I would sleep in the shower.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I'd put my hand up on the wall like this so his now
newfound energy over the lastfew years Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now I just have more responsibility, so I know, like
I can't sleep in the shower,I'll just get my snoozing done
in the bed and then yeah, butonce I was bitten by a scorpion
in the shower.
Do we know this?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What While sleeping no.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Excuse me, yeah, so I would sleep in the shower.
Get in the shower.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
This is to like play the game of like I'm awake, but
really you were just going totake another nap in the shower.
Yeah, 100%, Got it 100%.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And then he would come and bang on the door and
that would wake me up from thatnap and then I would actually
finish the shower morning.
I I did that and then was stungby something which you'd think
is a bee, and so I went back and, like, hit you know that area
where I was stung.
It was right on my butt and Icrushed a scorpion like, and so
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there in the shower, this is myliteral nightmare on the floor
was a dead scorpion did it breakthat habit?
No, god, no no.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Pavlov's dogs.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It took many years for him to break that habit.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think, yeah, but no more, I'm a grown up.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
What about you?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think my favorite Will Lockmead.
Quality is you make everybodyyou meet feel important.
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I do try.
What do you care about them?
I try to pretend you asshole.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh wow, I do try, I try to pretend.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You asshole we thought we were important.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I'm just kidding.
You know that we've talkedabout this.
I always try to act like I knowthem if I, even if I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just think it's a nice quality.
I think you can make anybodyfeel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's cool.
All right, I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh, as is dad, I'm excited to hear that.
Yeah, see, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh well, that's a Bob treat.
I get that from Bob.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I deeply admire curious people and I think
you're very curious.
I love how much you love tolearn.
Even if you trash whatever youlearn, right after you learn it
you're like all right, I learnedit, I'm done with it.
I still think that's like sucha characteristic of somebody
that I admire is someone that'slike deep into your 40s still
learning.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He's not deep into his early early 40s.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
By deep I mean deeper than me Very deep into your 40s
.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I haven't even seen him yet.
I'm still thriving in my 30s.
Now that tells me something.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
His two children, lila and Liam, early on in their
lives.
They would always say I'm verycurious.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's such a sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Lila more than Liam, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That is such a like.
Oh, what a little sweetsentiment.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I this morning on the radio show, used the word yeet
properly for the first time everand I texted Lila.
I was like you'd be proud.
I used yeet the way it'ssupposed to be used.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And she's like, oh, can you time out and tell me
what that is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh yeet, it's a word that Lila used to use all the
time.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And so I said it a bit ironically.
That's not cool either.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
She was like oh cool, isn't it like throwing
something Throwing something,yeah, or being tossed, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So this kid was like tossed off of a rope swing and I
was like, oh, look, it yeetedhim Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I'm sure, like I can't hear the response because
people are in their cars, butyou know.
But, I'm sure the crowd wentwild.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They hazed you so hard, I'm crashing out.
Hmm, no, I mean he says that,but that I think he's always
said stuff like that it is bigwith my 20 something year old
clients and I had to look thatup and now my kids are saying it
so like if you're reallyoverwhelmed or something bad
happens, it's like, oh, I'mtotally crashing out right now.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Okay, yeah, clay does say that I'm like well, guys,
it's not that bad Just toughenup a little.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Okay, so we have Bob here as our first person to
either defend themselves,elaborate on stories we've told
make Will uncomfortable yes,which he is.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh no, I'm good, I'm great, I'm watching you.
You haven't heard anything yetthough.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Totally fine.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He's like I'm good.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Everything's fine.
This is going to be.
This isn't about me, it's aboutBob.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's all about Bob?
Yeah right, what about him?
So it's okay if the answer isno, but have you ever listened
to this podcast before?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And you say it's okay to say no.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I have not, at this point, no.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yet.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But he also doesn't listen to podcasts at all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, yeah, my parents wouldn't know where to
find one.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Okay, well, like I'm going to be your first guest, I
mean as far as whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You're not the first guest ever, family, but you're
the first family guest, familyguest.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You'll be the first podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
We feel so honored.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We are amongst royalty in the Stuart Tillich
and that means a lot becauseI've been hosting podcasts since
2009.
All right?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Oh, wait a minute.
I did listen to two oldbrothers, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Back in the day, and that is both your children.
That's right, both of his kids.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Sweet yeah, both of his kids.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So we have talked about you quite a bit.
Before I give you, or we giveyou, some of that context, tell
us something, give us your bio.
Like who are you?
Tell us why you're so good on amic.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Well, years and years ago, commuting back from
Gadsden to UAB when I was inschool at both Gadsden State and
UAB to stay awake at night Ilistened to a radio talk show
out of Cleveland, got a PeteFranklin and I was actually
quoted in Sports Illustrated inan article that I thought Pete
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Franklin saved my life becausehe kept me awake all the way on
the drive back to Gadsden and Ijust got hooked and then from
that point forward had differentopportunities to participate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Hooked on radio.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Hooked on radio, hooked on talk radio, and I
think it's very therapeutic,totally.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I can see that, so that got me started and then
things evolved.
I worked with sports teams herein Birmingham and had the
opportunity to go on talk showsand talk about the teams and all
that type thing, and so theneventually switched places.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When I'm making an assumption that you're an
Alabama football fan.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I was why aren't you.
Well, a lot of my friends wentto Auburn Okay, okay, and.
But years and years ago, beforemy wife and I knew each other,
we were both at the samefootball game Alabama-Auburn
football game and the Auburnband was playing the alma mater
for Auburn and the Alabamastudent body began to sing out.
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Oh, mcdonald had a farm.
And I just didn't take that.
Well, I mean, I just thoughtthat's not good, you shouldn't
do that.
And then I evolved.
I mean, I just thought that'snot good, you shouldn't do that.
And then I evolved, I evolved.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I still want Alabama to win their games, except for
the playoffs.
It doesn't root against.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Alabama.
Yeah, yeah, it is aninteresting.
That's an interesting flip mydad brought us.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
My dad raised us to pull for both Alabama and Auburn
and then make a decision goinginto the Iron Bowl.
Who?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
based on certain criteria.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I blew that away later, though.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, like a statewide, we're for everybody
until we're just down to one.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, until we're down to one.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I like that.
But then when you were on radio, tell people about that show
that you had.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Oh, with Feinbaum.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, how longdo?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
we have One minute One minute, one minute.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Paul is a very unique individual.
He was Johnny Carson, I was EdMcMahon.
Okay, okay, and that sums it up.
All right, and I trieddesperately never to interrupt
him.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The truth is this Paul was a writer, bob had done
a ton of radio already, and sothey became friends and they
decided to start a nighttime AMradio show called Sports and
Stuff, and so that's what it was, and Paul pretty quickly became
this radio figure and thecallers became the center of the
show, and it then evolved tothe Paul Feinbaum Show and the
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Paul Feinbaum Radio Network andall that.
So that's how that started,though I mean there wouldn't be
Paul Feinbaum.
No don that, so that's how thatstarted, though I mean there
wouldn't be Paul Feinbaum nodon't.
Okay, he would still be alive,I assume.
Yeah, but there wouldn't be themassive media giant.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well, nobody had faith in Paul.
Everybody was afraid of Paul.
I was not, and I got with himand I said look, why don't we
try to put a nightly showtogether?
He had dabbled a little bit inradio, not much as a guest, and
he said well, good, put ittogether.
And three other people havetold me they're going to do that
.
And click.
He hung up and I called himback the next day and I said
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we've got two meetings with tworadio stations and the rest is
history.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It was very popular.
Now, if you had a nighttime AMradio show, you'd be lucky I'm
not kidding to have five peoplelistening.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Totally, if you had a big family.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
If you had a big family, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But it was so meaningful.
My dad can still list exactlythe stations he listened to and
exactly what shows.
It was a huge piece of cultureuntil we all ruined it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
That's right, and I do profoundly believe talk radio
is therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I agree.
I think it makes well for merelatable, less alone
entertained.
I mean, there's a millionreasons why it feels so good
Informed occasionally.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, more entertained, and that's the key
with Paul.
He crossed his wit and hisintellect and we just rolled
along.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Are you all still friends oh?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
yes, as a matter of fact, he moved back to
Birmingham yesterday, aw, andI'm looking forward to going and
visiting him in his mansion inMountain Brook soon.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Hopefully he's going to save you a guest room.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, I love that I wanted to be a doorman for him
there, but he said he alreadyhad someone.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was a weird situation when I started working
at the SEC Network.
The first time I went up therefor this meeting.
I'm in the lobby like waitingfor my pass to go in and Paul
walks in and he didn't get usthat job.
It's just a weird.
Like Reed and I had already hadthis other TV show, so it was a
weird thing.
But then he's like explainingto the security guard TV show.
It was a weird thing.
But then he's explaining to thesecurity guard.
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He's like you know, linda and Inever had kids.
He's like it's going to soundweird, but he and his brother
are kind of like the closestthing we have to kids.
Aww.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Paul, actually when it was, you were in elementary
school no middle school and Paulwould go up.
They had a little TV show andthe first thing in the morning
at the school and Will and twoor three other guys hosted it.
Well, paul would go up and betheir guest.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was a big deal.
We had Paul Feinbaum and we hadJulie from the real world Wow
yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Never invited.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Famous since seven years old at Wheel World, not to
be confused with Will World.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh yeah, that's a whole world of wheels.
I was never invited.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I was never invited to do.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But here you are now, and where's Paul Feinbaum?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh, exactly, preach.
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So we've got to roll out a lot of these things, but I
will say, like we don't have aton of men that listen to our
show, this could be the episodeoh good.
They're like Paul Feinbaum Bob.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
AM radio.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It'll be my dad's first episode to listen to as
well.
I think Excellent.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
All right, Tell them some things We've talked about
you a few times and I really amjust guessing at what they are,
but surely there have been a fewthings that have happened where
a little faux pas, if you will,and I want to start with this
one.
So we were having dinner onceat the house and there were a
lot of people there, I remember,like ron and chrissy were there
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.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You're not going into , I'm going here, yeah, we've
already been here, I just wantto get your.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So also.
I remember that our preacherhad just retired.
He was at the house yeah,because we were friends with
them as well, and so we're allsitting around and you had
learned a joke that day.
Do you remember this?
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
this joke?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
It was the Michael Jackson joke.
That's right, You'd learned thejoke and when it was told to
you that day it got a hugeresponse apparently.
So you thought I'll tell thisjoke, but you didn't really get
the joke, I missed it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I don't tell jokes well, no, no, no, I don't really
get the joke.
I missed it.
I missed it.
I don't tell jokes well, well,no, no, no, I don't.
Or riddles, do you know?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
we do a riddle each week at our family dinner.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, what, at family dinner, we do a riddle each
week.
It's a table.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He doesn't understand the difference between a joke
and a riddle.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, he'll hash that out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So the joke.
Do you remember the joke?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm trying to forget it, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It was about a it was .
Speaker 4 (19:39):
McDonald's I thought at least this was not about a
softball game.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I played no, we're getting there.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
It was about a hot dog.
No, no, it was a hamburger.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
McDonald's had a new McJackson burger.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, something whatever, but you just said it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Why don't you tell it Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, so he says at dinner.
He says I don't know if youguys heard about this.
He didn't set it up Like I havea joke to tell you.
He says I don't know if youguys heard about this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Your dad's going to be watching this.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, he said, yeah, it's called the McJackson Burger
, and of course we all this wasin the heyday of Michael Jackson
being on trial and all that,and we were just like, oh no,
pedophile stuff, sure, yeah,everyone's familiar, yeah.
And so we immediately knewwhere this was going, even
having not heard the joke.
(20:28):
And then stop me.
No, why would we stop you?
And so then he goes on to sayyep, that's right, it's
12-year-old meat in between two32-year-old buns.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And at that moment did you realize he got it
backwards, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh, 32-year-old meat in between two 12.
Yes, sorry, that's right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Hate to have to repeat it.
Integrity in this joke.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Okay, so you realized at that moment, idea in that
moment, yeah, what, what thepunchline meant?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
well, the preacher and and your mom yeah sort of
gave me a clue, yeah yeah, reedand I were too.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We were crying, we couldn't, uh, say anything
because we were crying.
Yeah, at that point I couldn'tsay anything either at that
point.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, it was good, I'd said enough.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So you said it in hopes that it was just going to
bring some laughter, some joy,and then it really A riddle,
Frivolity.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It'll lead to something you know.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
If any conversation at dinner gets anywhere serious
at all, he's like no, no, no, wegot to turn this somewhere fun.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I see where this comes from for you.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Especially if it goes in a political direction.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And then we got a preacher and a wife and a wife
and children, friends of thefamily, good friends, how old
were you?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I bet you I was 12.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
You weren't much older than that, Jim 12,.
Yeah, Rough time to hear thatJim Fatherly direction.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Right, yeah, I know right.
The ripe age, mm-hmm, it wouldhave been 92.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You had 12-year-old buns actually.
That's right, I did, I did, ohgoodness Safe safe, thankfully
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
so another one, and I know there list okay, but
there's one where you had aninjury.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Can I come back sometime?
You had an injury once and thisis also at dinner.
Well, this is uh, and we goback to eli gold and his wife
claudette lived across thestreet years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Okay, where we're sitting now on my porch, as you
hear the bird no idea will wouldbe living here at that time.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Oh, come on now.
Yeah, okay.
So I got, uh, I was playingsoftball for the church team,
okay, and ran into the centerfielder I was playing second
base, and no, I was playingcenter field second base and ran
into me and hit me right squarein the middle of the chest.
Okay, so then later thatafternoon I was on the phone
(22:49):
with eli and I said oh, oh, doyou really want me to tell?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
you, yeah, I mean yeah.
You're here to defend yourselfand tell your side of the story.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah.
So anyway, eli says Claudettesaid you got hurt in the game or
something.
I said yeah, but you just tellher my scrotum's fine,
Everything's good.
Oh see, and that's not theversion I have.
Oh yeah, well, I got the rightversion.
And so, anyway, eli goes what,what Call that?
And I said no, no, no, no, no,my sternum.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Oh see, and I told the story and this is how I have
it in my head is that you saidto everyone.
Oh, I can't believe this, ohgosh.
And rubbed your sternum andsaid oh my scrotum.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
No, no, no, no, no.
It came later in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
That story has evolved.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Eli's never forgotten that.
Oh, the story has evolved.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So you have a moment because I know you're on kid
pickup duty, which is reallykind I'm the Uber for the
grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You are the coolest Uber driver.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I've ever, ever met.
It's his favorite job, so it ismy favorite that is really
special.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I know my parents live very far she's.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Don't get her crying literally.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I've already cheered up several times already um, so
before you have to uber, forfree um, anything that you
really need our listeners toknow from when your son has
thrown you under the bus withthese stories.
Well, that he embellishes Sure.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He has a you know, I don't know what he's told you
about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh, you know we don't have time, not today.
Oh, bob, I don't think so.
Bob hung out with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you a Swifty?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
He hung out with her.
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I don't mean that negatively, but I mean no.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You hate her?
Oh no, he likes her.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He doesn't know her music, but he likes her
personally because he knows her.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We visited Taylor in her hotel room and 15 years ago
in Nashville, I was babysittingWill's first child, lila.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh-huh, you want me to do this, yeah it's great.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, so we ran into, we were getting back on, they
had all gone to a wedding and weweren't going to take a crying
baby to a wedding, and, um, sowe were, lila and I were getting
on the elevator and there wasthis guy and this older lady and
not that much older, but youknow and the the.
The guy said well, that's a cutebaby.
And he's kind of looking at melike that's not yours, is it?
(25:14):
And I said well, it's mygranddaughter.
And about that time the ladysaid would you like to go out
with us?
And my daughter just lovessmall children, yeah, taylor.
And she then says to the guyTaylor, and I'm not really
thinking that clearly at thispoint, where are we going?
We walk in and there's TaylorSwift and Bob and Lila hang out
(25:40):
with.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Taylor.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Swift.
How old was Lila?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
baby.
No, she was not a year, not one.
Yeah, yeah, almost one, wow,and so anyway, Wow, what a
legacy story for Lila she tookLila and you know that was a
heck of a coronation.
I guess you know.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
She was playing at the arena Bridgestone Arena,
next door to our hotel.
It's that hotel that flooded afew years ago, or whatever.
We were in that hotel.
And so she was yeah, had aconcert that night at
Bridgestone.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Bob, are you proud that Will is in radio.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yes, and he didn't take my advice.
He said do not get into radio,do not do it.
Don't get in radio and don'tget in politics.
I've been in both.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, so you didn't want it.
I am very proud.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm very proud of Birmingham Mountain Radio and
I'm very proud of his civicactivity and usually very proud
of his humor.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Oh, he said usually Usually Well, we saw some
distaste.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, that was just sort of a twist.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
A real twist.
Honestly, he brought you overhere thinking you were going to
be interviewed, not roasted, hesaid though last night he's like
is this gonna be about when Iscrewed him?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
yeah, when we walked to the car and I said, I said
I'm gonna try to is this and Iwas like, I just said I didn't
lie, I just said I can't tellyou, I can't tell well, you knew
deep down in your soul, didn'tyou listen?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
we have so many questions about how to raise a
child with his temperament we'renot doing it.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Those are good questions.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Here's a quick one.
While he's here, he does thisthing where he's always like I
am so sorry that I was notaround much with you growing up,
especially in your teens.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Regrets, regrets, yeah, but I don't know that I
don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I remember being around him all the time.
Too much maybe, no, butseriously, I went to the radio
station with him.
I went to all the events withhim.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Y'all had family dinners on Sundays, jokes and
riddles with pastors.
Now it's on Tuesday nights.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean we've bobbed and weaved our schedules.
My wife Will's mom was ateacher, so that gave her
stability of time and scheduleand I had none of that.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, but I just don't remember that.
That's the point of that.
He has this parental regret.
Okay, wait, I'm always likewhat are you doing?
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Bob, what's one piece of advice you would give to a
parent right now?
That's navigating a busyschedule.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I do this.
I walk up to young couples withsmall children coming out of
restaurants and my wife goesdon't you know.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So I don't go to restaurants.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Welcome.
I walk up to them and I saiddad, can I borrow you for a
second?
And the wife is, like you know,the mom and and he goes.
Yeah, sure, and I go don.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I said we have two.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
We have two boys.
I said they're in their 40searly 40s, and I said one more
year, early 40s and and so youknow, and I say, just don't let
these days get by, and they'llget by, because moms and dads
are too busy and and that justhappens, and uh.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So that's, that's my advice that's so good, all right
, one more question.
Sure, what's one conversationyou wish younger people would
have more these days?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
oh goodness, um, I think about friendships.
Uh, my dad once told me thatyou really won't go much beyond
one handful of five true friendstier one yeah that's right so
just don't, uh don't missopportunities to bond and
continue bonding thosefriendships if you could go back
(29:19):
and relive one moment in yourlife, what would it be?
There's no wrong answer whenthe high school coach that I was
playing for talked me out ofcoaching and teaching.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Like this talk y'all had.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You'd go back to that talk.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'd go back to that talk, would you?
Fight with him, or what wouldyou do?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
No, I would just tell him I appreciate your opinion,
but at that point of course it'sso easy now to say, well, I
would have gone in.
No coaches and teachers madenothing then right, so really
they still don't make it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I was gonna say now just rolling at it yeah, well,
but high school junior highschool, high school coaches
don't.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So his advice was good and uh, you know.
But I I do remember that and mydad telling me that I uh
shouldn't pursue a professionalgolf career Wow.
Because the pyramid was so thinthat I mean it was just his
opinion.
He said I just don't think thatit's all the glory that you
(30:19):
think it is, and so anyway, andI wasn't that good at golfing
anyway, so he knew that.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Really good advice.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah he had played Bob you are an angel.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I wish you were my Uber driver.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh listen, I have good rates.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Before you Cut Bangs is hosted by Laura Quick and
Claire Feerman and produced byWill Lockmead.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
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Welcome to, before you Cut Bangs.
I'm Laura Quick and I'm ClaireFehrman.
I am a professional storytellerand I'm currently working on my
first book.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I have worked in mental health for many years in
lots of capacities and this is areally important time to tell
you our big disclaimer this isnot therapy.
We are not your therapists orcoaches or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you shouldn't really trust us very
much at all.
Unless you want to and it turnsout well, then you can trust us
.
That's great.
Storytelling is important.
Obviously, we love it the best.
My favorite part of telling asalacious story is just making
(00:44):
people laugh Like I really wantto get that laugh.
Yeah, All right, what about you?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Or cry.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, I love to bring them to tears.
That's a win.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Laugh, cry on par, but we're connecting.
And when I was in fifth grade,I got an award called Let Me
Entertain you, and nothing hasfelt better in my life than that
day.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And my senior superlative, where everyone else
is getting best dressed and youknow, highest GPA.
I got class clown.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Sweet.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Did you get?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
anything Most theatric, but hang on, hang on.
Or dramatic, maybe, but here'sthe deal.
Most theatric, but hang on,hang on.
Or dramatic, maybe, but here'sthe deal, it's because Of the
world of Wheel.
It's because I actually starredin the play, in the big play,
junior year and senior year.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Can you tell us more about the play?
What was it called?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Guys and Dolls, that one and the Romancers.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Those two.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
This is a shocking so I wasn't like, personality-wise
, dramatic.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We know.
I didn't think you were layingon the floors crying at school.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, we thought it was a Phantom of the Opera type
of situation.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, it's a weird one, though, when I tell people
that, because I'm like no, Doyou want?
To check on her.
It's not my.
Yeah, this is another outsideepisode and yeah, we have birds,
we have cars, we have neighbors, we have stuff and you know,
maybe it picks up on the mic,maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You never know, but if you hear some chatter,
someone in a very animated phonecall.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Good for they're telling stories.
Probably, they probably areokay.
Well, interestingly enough, Igot a call from my sister who,
this last weekend, was like hey,I caught up on five episodes of
the podcast and I just wantedto let you know that I think you
guys have done enough episodeswhere it is finally time to let
people come and vindicatethemselves and tell their side
(02:41):
of the story.
And I was like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And I was like what do you mean?
What did she mean?
Like did we say somethingreally bad?
We?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm just being generous, what?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
did you do to her?
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't get.
I have some assumptions aboutsome things that maybe she feels
like I was less generous towardher in my storytelling.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You said she's like a Disney princess.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
She is all of that.
I think she'd like to come onand be like I'm not a Disney
princess, I'm a real girl.
I'm a real girl and I think shewould also like to be like.
Okay, first of all, I don'tknow, I don't want to speculate,
but I do think we need to justkind of lean into this idea.
And since our favorite uberdriver has some time on their
(03:28):
hands today, his name is boblock me yeah, it's my dad.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's my dad.
He's the only person I reallytalk much about on this show,
just because nick nick a littlebit, but I just tell like, oh,
this one time nick and I wentand did this thing or whatever.
I don't say Bob I've like toldstories that he would probably
cringe if he knew.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I told them OK, so he's going to come.
What did you tell him aboutthis invitation?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I said, hey, you know I produced this podcast and
they mentioned having you onbecause I've talked about you
and they want you to come kindof tell your side of those
stories.
He's like, okay, uh, is itgonna be about this and this?
And I said I can't tell youthat.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I said I don't want you to know beforehand, because
I don't want you to formulateknow how hardcore you've thrown
him under the bus?
Oh, he has an idea.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, he has an idea just because he knows it's he on
the radio show.
We talk about these stories allthe time, so he knows that it's
probably some embarrassingstories about him.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So for me it's my sister, obviously.
I mentioned Shelly a ton, andthen for you the main one is my
mother.
Obvious, Steph is going to comeafter you hard, I feel like on
a vindication episode.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's hard watching your parents talk publicly.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh yes, my whole life , oh yeah, my entire life,
luckily for you guys, my parentsare never going to read my book
and they are never going tolisten to this podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, I know my parents don't know how to find
the podcast, but Steph, poorSteph.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But whatever she can come on, she's going to come on
Really let me have it, but we'regoing to start with Bob because
he's around the corner.
He's got just a little bit oftime before he has to pick up
the kids from school.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
All right, let's do it.
Here's my dad, bob Lockerbie.
It's interesting because Ireally don't like say as much
about my personal life as youguys do at all all Except for
Bob.
Except for Bob, Because there'ssome good stories.
I don't it's all positive stuff, but yeah, I mean, I mean it is
positive but it's positivelyfunny.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
His mom is relieved, but she's jealous too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, she's relieved.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
She's mostly relieved .
The microphone is not her front.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, I'd like to get a full picture of the family.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh yeah, we could do that at some point.
I'm mostly thankful so we couldask some questions about Will.
This is actually anintervention for Will All right,
let's start there, let's startthere she might be a good
subject then.
Okay, good, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well then, we always start with a warm-up question or
a mixer and buckle up.
Buddy, I think it's going to beour favorite quality about you
today.
This is like a Laura Quickthing where if you're at a
dinner table, she's like let'sall go around and put a fork in.
No, she'll say let's all goaround and answer this really
(06:21):
meaningful question.
So our warm-up instead of aridiculous question like what
makes you gag.
It's your quality of Will thatyou just really appreciate, gosh
.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
This is a big leap from I don't have a microphone
and I'm just producing the showto this.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I know, Now you're like the subject matter.
We're going to start with BobBob.
What's your favorite qualityabout Will?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Oh, let's see His energy, his energy when he's
awake, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When he's sleeping.
Oh because he knows, yeah, Ican't Now.
Look, I wake up now on my ownwith an alarm clock, that's good
to hear yeah, but back in theday it would take me, you know I
still I'd snooze for 30 minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's the most artist thing of all time, though.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well actually snoozing in the shower is risky
business.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I would sleep in the shower.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I'd put my hand up on the wall like this so his now
newfound energy over the lastfew years Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now I just have more responsibility, so I know, like
I can't sleep in the shower,I'll just get my snoozing done
in the bed and then yeah, butonce I was bitten by a scorpion
in the shower.
Do we know this?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What While sleeping no.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Excuse me, yeah, so I would sleep in the shower.
Get in the shower.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
This is to like play the game of like I'm awake, but
really you were just going totake another nap in the shower.
Yeah, 100%, Got it 100%.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And then he would come and bang on the door and
that would wake me up from thatnap and then I would actually
finish the shower morning.
I I did that and then was stungby something which you'd think
is a bee, and so I went back and, like, hit you know that area
where I was stung.
It was right on my butt and Icrushed a scorpion like, and so
(07:56):
there in the shower, this is myliteral nightmare on the floor
was a dead scorpion did it breakthat habit?
No, god, no no.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Pavlov's dogs.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It took many years for him to break that habit.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think, yeah, but no more, I'm a grown up.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
What about you?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think my favorite Will Lockmead.
Quality is you make everybodyyou meet feel important.
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I do try.
What do you care about them?
I try to pretend you asshole.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh wow, I do try, I try to pretend.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You asshole we thought we were important.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I'm just kidding.
You know that we've talkedabout this.
I always try to act like I knowthem if I, even if I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just think it's a nice quality.
I think you can make anybodyfeel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's cool.
All right, I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh, as is dad, I'm excited to hear that.
Yeah, see, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh well, that's a Bob treat.
I get that from Bob.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I deeply admire curious people and I think
you're very curious.
I love how much you love tolearn.
Even if you trash whatever youlearn, right after you learn it
you're like all right, I learnedit, I'm done with it.
I still think that's like sucha characteristic of somebody
that I admire is someone that'slike deep into your 40s still
learning.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He's not deep into his early early 40s.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
By deep I mean deeper than me Very deep into your 40s
.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I haven't even seen him yet.
I'm still thriving in my 30s.
Now that tells me something.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
His two children, lila and Liam, early on in their
lives.
They would always say I'm verycurious.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's such a sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Lila more than Liam, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That is such a like.
Oh, what a little sweetsentiment.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I this morning on the radio show, used the word yeet
properly for the first time everand I texted Lila.
I was like you'd be proud.
I used yeet the way it'ssupposed to be used.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And she's like, oh, can you time out and tell me
what that is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh yeet, it's a word that Lila used to use all the
time.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And so I said it a bit ironically.
That's not cool either.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
She was like oh cool, isn't it like throwing
something Throwing something,yeah, or being tossed, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So this kid was like tossed off of a rope swing and I
was like, oh, look, it yeetedhim Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I'm sure, like I can't hear the response because
people are in their cars, butyou know.
But, I'm sure the crowd wentwild.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They hazed you so hard, I'm crashing out.
Hmm, no, I mean he says that,but that I think he's always
said stuff like that it is bigwith my 20 something year old
clients and I had to look thatup and now my kids are saying it
so like if you're reallyoverwhelmed or something bad
happens, it's like, oh, I'mtotally crashing out right now.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Okay, yeah, clay does say that I'm like well, guys,
it's not that bad Just toughenup a little.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Okay, so we have Bob here as our first person to
either defend themselves,elaborate on stories we've told
make Will uncomfortable yes,which he is.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh no, I'm good, I'm great, I'm watching you.
You haven't heard anything yetthough.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Totally fine.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He's like I'm good.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Everything's fine.
This is going to be.
This isn't about me, it's aboutBob.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's all about Bob?
Yeah right, what about him?
So it's okay if the answer isno, but have you ever listened
to this podcast before?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And you say it's okay to say no.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I have not, at this point, no.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yet.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But he also doesn't listen to podcasts at all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, yeah, my parents wouldn't know where to
find one.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Okay, well, like I'm going to be your first guest, I
mean as far as whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You're not the first guest ever, family, but you're
the first family guest, familyguest.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You'll be the first podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
We feel so honored.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We are amongst royalty in the Stuart Tillich
and that means a lot becauseI've been hosting podcasts since
2009.
All right?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Oh, wait a minute.
I did listen to two oldbrothers, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Back in the day, and that is both your children.
That's right, both of his kids.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Sweet yeah, both of his kids.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So we have talked about you quite a bit.
Before I give you, or we giveyou, some of that context, tell
us something, give us your bio.
Like who are you?
Tell us why you're so good on amic.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Well, years and years ago, commuting back from
Gadsden to UAB when I was inschool at both Gadsden State and
UAB to stay awake at night Ilistened to a radio talk show
out of Cleveland, got a PeteFranklin and I was actually
quoted in Sports Illustrated inan article that I thought Pete
(12:39):
Franklin saved my life becausehe kept me awake all the way on
the drive back to Gadsden and Ijust got hooked and then from
that point forward had differentopportunities to participate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Hooked on radio.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Hooked on radio, hooked on talk radio, and I
think it's very therapeutic,totally.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I can see that, so that got me started and then
things evolved.
I worked with sports teams herein Birmingham and had the
opportunity to go on talk showsand talk about the teams and all
that type thing, and so theneventually switched places.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When I'm making an assumption that you're an
Alabama football fan.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I was why aren't you.
Well, a lot of my friends wentto Auburn Okay, okay, and.
But years and years ago, beforemy wife and I knew each other,
we were both at the samefootball game Alabama-Auburn
football game and the Auburnband was playing the alma mater
for Auburn and the Alabamastudent body began to sing out.
(13:42):
Oh, mcdonald had a farm.
And I just didn't take that.
Well, I mean, I just thoughtthat's not good, you shouldn't
do that.
And then I evolved.
I mean, I just thought that'snot good, you shouldn't do that.
And then I evolved, I evolved.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I still want Alabama to win their games, except for
the playoffs.
It doesn't root against.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Alabama.
Yeah, yeah, it is aninteresting.
That's an interesting flip mydad brought us.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
My dad raised us to pull for both Alabama and Auburn
and then make a decision goinginto the Iron Bowl.
Who?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
based on certain criteria.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I blew that away later, though.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, like a statewide, we're for everybody
until we're just down to one.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, until we're down to one.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I like that.
But then when you were on radio, tell people about that show
that you had.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Oh, with Feinbaum.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, how longdo?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
we have One minute One minute, one minute.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Paul is a very unique individual.
He was Johnny Carson, I was EdMcMahon.
Okay, okay, and that sums it up.
All right, and I trieddesperately never to interrupt
him.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The truth is this Paul was a writer, bob had done
a ton of radio already, and sothey became friends and they
decided to start a nighttime AMradio show called Sports and
Stuff, and so that's what it was, and Paul pretty quickly became
this radio figure and thecallers became the center of the
show, and it then evolved tothe Paul Feinbaum Show and the
(15:06):
Paul Feinbaum Radio Network andall that.
So that's how that started,though I mean there wouldn't be
Paul Feinbaum.
No don that, so that's how thatstarted, though I mean there
wouldn't be Paul Feinbaum nodon't.
Okay, he would still be alive,I assume.
Yeah, but there wouldn't be themassive media giant.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well, nobody had faith in Paul.
Everybody was afraid of Paul.
I was not, and I got with himand I said look, why don't we
try to put a nightly showtogether?
He had dabbled a little bit inradio, not much as a guest, and
he said well, good, put ittogether.
And three other people havetold me they're going to do that
.
And click.
He hung up and I called himback the next day and I said
(15:42):
we've got two meetings with tworadio stations and the rest is
history.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It was very popular.
Now, if you had a nighttime AMradio show, you'd be lucky I'm
not kidding to have five peoplelistening.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Totally, if you had a big family.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
If you had a big family, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But it was so meaningful.
My dad can still list exactlythe stations he listened to and
exactly what shows.
It was a huge piece of cultureuntil we all ruined it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
That's right, and I do profoundly believe talk radio
is therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I agree.
I think it makes well for merelatable, less alone
entertained.
I mean, there's a millionreasons why it feels so good
Informed occasionally.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, more entertained, and that's the key
with Paul.
He crossed his wit and hisintellect and we just rolled
along.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Are you all still friends oh?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
yes, as a matter of fact, he moved back to
Birmingham yesterday, aw, andI'm looking forward to going and
visiting him in his mansion inMountain Brook soon.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Hopefully he's going to save you a guest room.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, I love that I wanted to be a doorman for him
there, but he said he alreadyhad someone.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was a weird situation when I started working
at the SEC Network.
The first time I went up therefor this meeting.
I'm in the lobby like waitingfor my pass to go in and Paul
walks in and he didn't get usthat job.
It's just a weird.
Like Reed and I had already hadthis other TV show, so it was a
weird thing.
But then he's like explainingto the security guard TV show.
It was a weird thing.
But then he's explaining to thesecurity guard.
(17:11):
He's like you know, linda and Inever had kids.
He's like it's going to soundweird, but he and his brother
are kind of like the closestthing we have to kids.
Aww.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Paul, actually when it was, you were in elementary
school no middle school and Paulwould go up.
They had a little TV show andthe first thing in the morning
at the school and Will and twoor three other guys hosted it.
Well, paul would go up and betheir guest.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was a big deal.
We had Paul Feinbaum and we hadJulie from the real world Wow
yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Never invited.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Famous since seven years old at Wheel World, not to
be confused with Will World.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh yeah, that's a whole world of wheels.
I was never invited.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I was never invited to do.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But here you are now, and where's Paul Feinbaum?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh, exactly, preach.
Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So we've got to roll out a lot of these things, but I
will say, like we don't have aton of men that listen to our
show, this could be the episodeoh good.
They're like Paul Feinbaum Bob.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
AM radio.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It'll be my dad's first episode to listen to as
well.
I think Excellent.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
All right, Tell them some things We've talked about
you a few times and I really amjust guessing at what they are,
but surely there have been a fewthings that have happened where
a little faux pas, if you will,and I want to start with this
one.
So we were having dinner onceat the house and there were a
lot of people there, I remember,like ron and chrissy were there
(18:35):
.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You're not going into , I'm going here, yeah, we've
already been here, I just wantto get your.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So also.
I remember that our preacherhad just retired.
He was at the house yeah,because we were friends with
them as well, and so we're allsitting around and you had
learned a joke that day.
Do you remember this?
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
this joke?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
It was the Michael Jackson joke.
That's right, You'd learned thejoke and when it was told to
you that day it got a hugeresponse apparently.
So you thought I'll tell thisjoke, but you didn't really get
the joke, I missed it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I don't tell jokes well, no, no, no, I don't really
get the joke.
I missed it.
I missed it.
I don't tell jokes well, well,no, no, no, I don't.
Or riddles, do you know?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
we do a riddle each week at our family dinner.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, what, at family dinner, we do a riddle each
week.
It's a table.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He doesn't understand the difference between a joke
and a riddle.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, he'll hash that out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So the joke.
Do you remember the joke?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm trying to forget it, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It was about a it was .
Speaker 4 (19:39):
McDonald's I thought at least this was not about a
softball game.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I played no, we're getting there.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
It was about a hot dog.
No, no, it was a hamburger.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
McDonald's had a new McJackson burger.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, something whatever, but you just said it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Why don't you tell it Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, so he says at dinner.
He says I don't know if youguys heard about this.
He didn't set it up Like I havea joke to tell you.
He says I don't know if youguys heard about this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Your dad's going to be watching this.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, he said, yeah, it's called the McJackson Burger
, and of course we all this wasin the heyday of Michael Jackson
being on trial and all that,and we were just like, oh no,
pedophile stuff, sure, yeah,everyone's familiar, yeah.
And so we immediately knewwhere this was going, even
having not heard the joke.
(20:28):
And then stop me.
No, why would we stop you?
And so then he goes on to sayyep, that's right, it's
12-year-old meat in between two32-year-old buns.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And at that moment did you realize he got it
backwards, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh, 32-year-old meat in between two 12.
Yes, sorry, that's right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Hate to have to repeat it.
Integrity in this joke.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Okay, so you realized at that moment, idea in that
moment, yeah, what, what thepunchline meant?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
well, the preacher and and your mom yeah sort of
gave me a clue, yeah yeah, reedand I were too.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We were crying, we couldn't, uh, say anything
because we were crying.
Yeah, at that point I couldn'tsay anything either at that
point.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, it was good, I'd said enough.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So you said it in hopes that it was just going to
bring some laughter, some joy,and then it really A riddle,
Frivolity.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It'll lead to something you know.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
If any conversation at dinner gets anywhere serious
at all, he's like no, no, no, wegot to turn this somewhere fun.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I see where this comes from for you.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Especially if it goes in a political direction.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And then we got a preacher and a wife and a wife
and children, friends of thefamily, good friends, how old
were you?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I bet you I was 12.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
You weren't much older than that, Jim 12,.
Yeah, Rough time to hear thatJim Fatherly direction.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Right, yeah, I know right.
The ripe age, mm-hmm, it wouldhave been 92.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You had 12-year-old buns actually.
That's right, I did, I did, ohgoodness Safe safe, thankfully
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
so another one, and I know there list okay, but
there's one where you had aninjury.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Can I come back sometime?
You had an injury once and thisis also at dinner.
Well, this is uh, and we goback to eli gold and his wife
claudette lived across thestreet years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Okay, where we're sitting now on my porch, as you
hear the bird no idea will wouldbe living here at that time.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Oh, come on now.
Yeah, okay.
So I got, uh, I was playingsoftball for the church team,
okay, and ran into the centerfielder I was playing second
base, and no, I was playingcenter field second base and ran
into me and hit me right squarein the middle of the chest.
Okay, so then later thatafternoon I was on the phone
(22:49):
with eli and I said oh, oh, doyou really want me to tell?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
you, yeah, I mean yeah.
You're here to defend yourselfand tell your side of the story.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah.
So anyway, eli says Claudettesaid you got hurt in the game or
something.
I said yeah, but you just tellher my scrotum's fine,
Everything's good.
Oh see, and that's not theversion I have.
Oh yeah, well, I got the rightversion.
And so, anyway, eli goes what,what Call that?
And I said no, no, no, no, no,my sternum.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Oh see, and I told the story and this is how I have
it in my head is that you saidto everyone.
Oh, I can't believe this, ohgosh.
And rubbed your sternum andsaid oh my scrotum.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
No, no, no, no, no.
It came later in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
That story has evolved.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Eli's never forgotten that.
Oh, the story has evolved.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So you have a moment because I know you're on kid
pickup duty, which is reallykind I'm the Uber for the
grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You are the coolest Uber driver.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I've ever, ever met.
It's his favorite job, so it ismy favorite that is really
special.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I know my parents live very far she's.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Don't get her crying literally.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I've already cheered up several times already um, so
before you have to uber, forfree um, anything that you
really need our listeners toknow from when your son has
thrown you under the bus withthese stories.
Well, that he embellishes Sure.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He has a you know, I don't know what he's told you
about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh, you know we don't have time, not today.
Oh, bob, I don't think so.
Bob hung out with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you a Swifty?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
He hung out with her.
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I don't mean that negatively, but I mean no.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You hate her?
Oh no, he likes her.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He doesn't know her music, but he likes her
personally because he knows her.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We visited Taylor in her hotel room and 15 years ago
in Nashville, I was babysittingWill's first child, lila.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh-huh, you want me to do this, yeah it's great.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, so we ran into, we were getting back on, they
had all gone to a wedding and weweren't going to take a crying
baby to a wedding, and, um, sowe were, lila and I were getting
on the elevator and there wasthis guy and this older lady and
not that much older, but youknow and the the.
The guy said well, that's a cutebaby.
And he's kind of looking at melike that's not yours, is it?
(25:14):
And I said well, it's mygranddaughter.
And about that time the ladysaid would you like to go out
with us?
And my daughter just lovessmall children, yeah, taylor.
And she then says to the guyTaylor, and I'm not really
thinking that clearly at thispoint, where are we going?
We walk in and there's TaylorSwift and Bob and Lila hang out
(25:40):
with.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Taylor.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Swift.
How old was Lila?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
baby.
No, she was not a year, not one.
Yeah, yeah, almost one, wow,and so anyway, Wow, what a
legacy story for Lila she tookLila and you know that was a
heck of a coronation.
I guess you know.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
She was playing at the arena Bridgestone Arena,
next door to our hotel.
It's that hotel that flooded afew years ago, or whatever.
We were in that hotel.
And so she was yeah, had aconcert that night at
Bridgestone.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Bob, are you proud that Will is in radio.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yes, and he didn't take my advice.
He said do not get into radio,do not do it.
Don't get in radio and don'tget in politics.
I've been in both.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, so you didn't want it.
I am very proud.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm very proud of Birmingham Mountain Radio and
I'm very proud of his civicactivity and usually very proud
of his humor.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Oh, he said usually Usually Well, we saw some
distaste.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, that was just sort of a twist.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
A real twist.
Honestly, he brought you overhere thinking you were going to
be interviewed, not roasted, hesaid though last night he's like
is this gonna be about when Iscrewed him?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
yeah, when we walked to the car and I said, I said
I'm gonna try to is this and Iwas like, I just said I didn't
lie, I just said I can't tellyou, I can't tell well, you knew
deep down in your soul, didn'tyou listen?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
we have so many questions about how to raise a
child with his temperament we'renot doing it.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Those are good questions.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Here's a quick one.
While he's here, he does thisthing where he's always like I
am so sorry that I was notaround much with you growing up,
especially in your teens.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Regrets, regrets, yeah, but I don't know that I
don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I remember being around him all the time.
Too much maybe, no, butseriously, I went to the radio
station with him.
I went to all the events withhim.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Y'all had family dinners on Sundays, jokes and
riddles with pastors.
Now it's on Tuesday nights.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean we've bobbed and weaved our schedules.
My wife Will's mom was ateacher, so that gave her
stability of time and scheduleand I had none of that.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, but I just don't remember that.
That's the point of that.
He has this parental regret.
Okay, wait, I'm always likewhat are you doing?
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Bob, what's one piece of advice you would give to a
parent right now?
That's navigating a busyschedule.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I do this.
I walk up to young couples withsmall children coming out of
restaurants and my wife goesdon't you know.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So I don't go to restaurants.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Welcome.
I walk up to them and I saiddad, can I borrow you for a
second?
And the wife is, like you know,the mom and and he goes.
Yeah, sure, and I go don.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I said we have two.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
We have two boys.
I said they're in their 40searly 40s, and I said one more
year, early 40s and and so youknow, and I say, just don't let
these days get by, and they'llget by, because moms and dads
are too busy and and that justhappens, and uh.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So that's, that's my advice that's so good, all right
, one more question.
Sure, what's one conversationyou wish younger people would
have more these days?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
oh goodness, um, I think about friendships.
Uh, my dad once told me thatyou really won't go much beyond
one handful of five true friendstier one yeah that's right so
just don't, uh don't missopportunities to bond and
continue bonding thosefriendships if you could go back
(29:19):
and relive one moment in yourlife, what would it be?
There's no wrong answer whenthe high school coach that I was
playing for talked me out ofcoaching and teaching.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Like this talk y'all had.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You'd go back to that talk.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'd go back to that talk, would you?
Fight with him, or what wouldyou do?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
No, I would just tell him I appreciate your opinion,
but at that point of course it'sso easy now to say, well, I
would have gone in.
No coaches and teachers madenothing then right, so really
they still don't make it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I was gonna say now just rolling at it yeah, well,
but high school junior highschool, high school coaches
don't.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So his advice was good and uh, you know.
But I I do remember that and mydad telling me that I uh
shouldn't pursue a professionalgolf career Wow.
Because the pyramid was so thinthat I mean it was just his
opinion.
He said I just don't think thatit's all the glory that you
(30:19):
think it is, and so anyway, andI wasn't that good at golfing
anyway, so he knew that.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Really good advice.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah he had played Bob you are an angel.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I wish you were my Uber driver.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh listen, I have good rates.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
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