November 22, 2024 • 69 mins
In this episode we explore Anima Ventus Breathwork, which is a combination of vocal toning, expression, alignment and breathwork.
Mike Pinette and Julia Cubo Pinette are the founders of Anima Ventus. Together, they facilitate a journey enabling participants to release limiting beliefs, reconnect with abandoned parts of themselves and rediscover their inner knowing.
Mike's expertise with breathwork uncovers and reintegrates hidden aspects of the self, promoting deep somatic release, while Julia's skill in sound therapy and vocal activation enhances the experience. Her intuitive use of voice and healing sounds is tailored to resonate with each individual's unique energy, Making every session a deeply personal and immersive experience.
Our willing participant is Gina Minardi, a licensed marriage and family therapist with a specialization in art therapy. Over the last 13 years, Gina has worked in homeless shelters, rehabs, and is now in her own private practice. She is also the host of Spaces In Between, A podcast dedicated to the spaces between laughter, tears, ego, soul, and messy growth.
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Mike (00:05):
It's like the small self thinks and the true self knows.
The things that we think aboutand the things that we ruminate
with and keep us in the mind andnot really truly in our hearts
or truly in our sensing body,where I feel like the gnosis and
the real intuition and thewisdom resides.
I think it's a tug of war, we'reconstantly have to play that
game of who.
Who's in control here?
(00:25):
So I think breathwork takes youto that state that gives you a
little bit more alleviation fromthe heaviness and the knowing
that is really within you thatis like This is true for me and
I feel this now and it's whetherit's going to take you on a
different path or not It's oneof those things that helps Give
a moment of clarity and whetheror not it sticks and takes,
we'll see.
Krista (00:45):
Welcome to the Beginner's Guide to the Third
Eye, the podcast that delvesinto the profound realms of
spiritual experiences, exploringthe dedicated practitioners and
various modalities that guide uson our transformative path.
Together, we will explore themystical, the magical, the
enlightened, and the sacred.
(01:06):
In each episode, we pairseasoned practitioners,
spiritual experiences, orhealing modalities, and a
willing participant to sharetheir experience in working
together.
We will explore the uniqueinsights, stories, and wisdom
gained from their own profoundjourneys, unveiling the
extraordinary narratives thatshape spiritual seekers and
(01:27):
practitioners alike.
My name is Krista Rauschenbergand my work as a healer has
emerged from hundreds of hoursof certified training, spiritual
initiations, direct experience,and deep personal work.
I have been employed in thehealing arts as a postpartum
doula, an advanced Akashicreader, an Akashic breathwork
practitioner, and a writer.
(01:49):
Facilitating and educatingpeople through their personal,
spiritual, and healing journeysis my greatest source of
happiness.
El (01:56):
And I'm Elle Larson.
I use sound and space to helpbalance internal and external
environments.
I've practiced holistic healingmodalities for over 20 years,
and my work includes Tibetanbull sound healing, feng shui,
reiki, and shamanism.
Krista (02:09):
Welcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the
Third Eye where we demystify themystical.
On today's show, we'll beexploring Anima Ventus
breathwork, which is acombination of vocal toning,
expression, alignment andbreathwork.
We will be joined by MikePinette and Julia Cubo Pinette,
(02:29):
who are the founders of AnimaVentus.
Together, they facilitate ajourney enabling participants to
release limiting beliefs.
Reconnect with abandoned partsof themselves and rediscover
their inner knowing.
Mike's expertise and breathworkuncovers and reintegrates hidden
aspects of the self, promotingdeep somatic release, while
(02:50):
Julia's skill in sound therapyand vocal activation enhances
the experience.
Her intuitive use of voice andhealing sounds is tailored to
resonate with each individual'sunique energy, Making every
session a deeply personal andimmersive experience.
And our willing participant isGina Minardi, a licensed
(03:11):
marriage and family therapistwith a specialization in art
therapy.
Over the last 13 years, Gina hasworked in homeless shelters,
rehabs, and is now in her ownprivate practice.
She is also the host of Spacesin Between, A podcast dedicated
to the spaces between laughter,tears, ego, soul, and messy
(03:32):
growth.
It's one of my favorite podcastsand always leaves me feeling
seen and inspired.
Breathwork is a practice that isnear and dear to my heart as I
practice it on a regular basis.
I teach it and I also prescribeit to my clients.
So I was really excited to bringthis new form to our show.
I would like to mention that Iparticipated in this session
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along with Gina, having neverworked with Mike and Julia in
this capacity before.
Let's welcome our guests.
Julia, I'd love to start withyou.
How did this work come to youand how has your life unfolded
to get you where you are today?
Julia (04:09):
It's started in a very different kind of ambience.
I'm an opera singer and I wasclassically trained since I was
Eight years old, I was going toconservatory for a classical
music training for piano voice.
I was Really focused ontechnique being stylistically
correct, which I really enjoyedit allowed me to travel and
(04:31):
discover different cultures,different countries.
I learned languages and aboutThree years ago, I started
having a sort of artistic crisisin terms of why do I do what I
do?
And I would get a lot offeedback saying, your music
transforms me and gets me toanother Real.
(04:53):
It's not just what you sing andwhat I hear is what I feel.
And I cannot quite explain whatit is.
And I felt signs from theuniverse telling me, I think you
should really think about whatis your true purpose of why
you're singing and why youenjoyed singing instead of just
using your voice as a tool Ofrefinement on a technical and
(05:17):
stylistic way, and it was thenwhen I started being really
interested in sound frequencyand sound healing and how to use
music and your voice to reallyuse it as a channel to transport
people to get into asubconscious where we can.
(05:38):
Deal with and heal traumas orunresolved issues with our
voice.
And it was then when I startedworking with Alexandra Tanu,
which is a master on soundfrequency and really getting
very in depth with thetechnicality of the frequency of
the sound and how we can get onthese subconscious layers.
(06:01):
It was then when I started aswell improvising and developing
my own technique and my own wayof dealing with voice at first I
would just do more primal soundsand then I realized why not also
using my operatic voice and thetechnique to use different
explorations with voice.
(06:21):
Why only, I was again, using toomuch of my classical mind of if
I do this style and I should notdo this other style.
And then I said, I want to mixthis.
I'm going to create nasty soundsas well.
Sometimes when we think ofmusic, let's make beautiful
sounds.
Why?
In life, there's beautiful andnot so beautiful and what's
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beautiful and what's notbeautiful anyway.
So I wanted to play withfrequencies and resonances in
the head, in the body and try tomake other people feel what I
was feeling, like getting myvoice in their vocal cords.
Krista (06:58):
When someone said to you that your voice transforms me,
did you have an inclinationprior to someone pointing that
out that you had some kind ofresonance or channel what was
happening for you before someoneelse made you aware of what was
happening for them?
Julia (07:17):
First, I wasn't aware of it.
And then I realized that throughmy voice and through music
connecting to other people'senergies and feeling what they
were feeling and trying to pullthem towards me to try to make
them feel bringing them to meand then make them feel whatever
emotional state, or say I wassinging a song about I don't
(07:41):
know, bringing like Casta Diva,bringing peace on earth, I would
try through emotion to bringthem to me and then to express
that message.
So we would be connected in theroom because I used to do
concerts for private partieswhere there was very few people
and that would get veryintimate.
And that was a great opportunityfor me to feel into the
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vibration of people.
And that's when I realized if Ican do this for an entertainment
purpose, if I have this abilityto really get them without
asking questions, just from amusical point of view I think
this is somewhere where I canexplore and I'm still working in
progress, with thisexperimental.
(08:25):
And now with Mike, we'reincluding breath, which is
primal.
There's no sound without breath.
And I learned the diaphragmaticclassical way of breathing, but
he knows many different stylesof breathing, which I'm now
applying to my own singing.
And it's allowing me to get evenmore deep into the subconscious.
Krista (08:45):
Yeah, the session was incredible but also grounded,
unexpected in places.
I'd never experienced anythinglike it.
How did you guys come up withthe idea and are you still
creating it?
is each session fluid where youjust see where it takes you?
Tell us about your experiencecombining your talents.
Mike (09:08):
I can tell him my side.
I just remember we both had verycommon interests.
We were both very fascinatedabout the same worlds.
And when we started talking anddiscussing some of these things,
we were doing some trading ofher showing me how to open up
the voice and use differentparts of the body to open up the
vocal cords.
And then I was showing herbreath work, like different
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things that I've been using tocreate the same feeling or
sensation, but to alleviatesomething or to feel something
or to welcome in some sort ofClearing process.
So combined, we're naturallyorganically started to
experiment.
Yeah, it's been a realplayground of experimenting what
opens up certain parts and howdo we connect this to other
(09:53):
elements that could be out ofalignment and how can we
formulate it in a way that'sreally specific.
Krista (10:00):
And when you say open up, that is an opportunity to
release, correct?
Or actually receive as well?
Mike (10:08):
For sure.
I think, you have to make spaceto receive.
I think there is like a certaineither clearing or opening
process to actually welcome insomething.
How do you feel about that?
Julia (10:20):
Yes.
I think you must be open toTapping to people's energies as
well.
If they're confronting their ownshadow.
Maybe sometimes you can add evenmore of that shadow through
sound and precaution becausehe's a wonderful precautionist.
There's also another wonderfulmix between sound and rhythm,
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which he would be more groundedearth element, and I would be
more water and air.
That really helps diving intothese subconsciences, There must
be a synergy of, communicationreceiving and given, and also
intuition how much you should gothere and when to stop and
release and be gentle,especially when you don't know
(11:04):
the person, if it's someone thatyou work for the first time.
Krista (11:08):
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Cause some of the sounds youwere making were really
confronting, but it was meeting,parts of me that needed that
connection, even if it didn'tfeel good, it was incredibly
impactful and purposeful becausewe don't always reach for those
parts of ourselves that don'tfeel good.
(11:29):
If ever.
Mike, just for context, I'd loveto get a bit of your background.
Tell me about your experiencewith breathwork, how you came
about it, how long have you beenteaching it?
Mike (11:39):
Yeah started out doing yoga very early on and that was
like my entry point for Any formof breath work that was
connected to mindful breathing.
I have been about over a decadeworking with different
practitioners, I've studied withWim Hof, with Laird Hamilton,
with XPT.
I've done many different kind ofexperimental, more holotropic,
(12:01):
more Stanislav Grof and like thewhole.
the whole crew.
I've invited everybody'sperspective as far as like, how
do we breathe and how do wepinpoint certain experiences and
altered states of consciousnessthrough breath, but also
physiologically, how are wefunctionally breathing or how
can we use the breath to changeour state in a sense?
So, um, yeah, it's been justover time and just with practice
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and, uh, I love surfing.
So breath is very important asfar as that is involved.
It's always been inspired by,some sort of functional use, but
I found the deeper I went withbreath and the more longer
journeys that I took with it,the more it opened up just
getting high on my own supplyand not needing external things
to get to be to a certain place.
And so that was the.
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The journey that got me to thispoint.
And then with the vocal aspectto just as this whole other
dimension to it, where it'susing frequency and sound to
access parts that may bedormant, that the breath can't
always send life energy to.
So,
Krista (13:03):
Yeah, it's amazing how something that we take for
granted possesses so much wealthand health and even magic.
There's so much in our breaththat is undiscovered.
It's really interesting, thework that you're doing and
Julia, before we move on, I'dlove to understand.
(13:24):
So you trained as an operasinger in Spain, in Europe,
Julia (13:28):
In Spain, in, in Boston, New England Conservatory.
I did my bachelor's degree.
And then I did my master'sdegree at Cardiff university in
Wales.
And then I was doing differentproductions for young artists
programs in all around Europe.
Yeah, that was pretty much whatI was doing for until I was
around 28.
(13:50):
Then I started working fordifferent agencies for corporate
events to concerts with aquartet, string quartets as
well.
I was doing oratorio, which ismore sacred music as well.
So I went through differentphases.
Traveling around exploringdifferent styles, like between
German opera, French opera,Sarzuela, which is the small
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genre of Spanish opera.
So yeah, it was a journey for meon many levels.
Krista (14:18):
Gina, tell us a bit about your background and
experience.
I'd love to know what kinds ofreadings or healings you've had
before just to give us contextin terms of what you were coming
in with.
Gina (14:29):
I would say I wasn't coming in with a ton.
I had done, probably a fewbreathwork sessions And, they
were much more subtle than whatwe experienced And then I did
take a course of holotropicbreath work and working on that
myself and bringing that toclients.
(14:50):
So as far as readings, you meanlike intuitive readings or.
Krista (14:55):
Sure.
So I consider this more of ametaphysical practice.
Certainly working with energyand you're opening up to
something that you can't reallysee.
So in that realm, what otherthings have you done or did you
have any apprehension orexpectations coming into this?
Gina (15:14):
Yeah, great question.
I think that I just had a lot ofexcitement because I was really
in a, I think I said this whenwe were meeting, I was in a
really funky sort of stuckspace.
So I knew that Breathwork wasreally going to open me up.
My main emotions going into itwere excitement and and I think
(15:35):
any deep dive that I've done,it's that surrender into, you
don't know how you're going torespond.
But this is like what I live foris stepping into these unknown
spaces where you just don't knowemotionally what's going to come
up and what's going to be shown.
So yeah, I was blown away withyou guys.
Krista (15:52):
Mike and Julia for someone that's never experienced
breath work, how would youdescribe it?
What is it?
And what is its purpose?
Fundamentally,
Mike (16:04):
for me, it's a bit of a palate cleanser as far as like
our emotional debris that we mayhave still residing within us.
I think it's really one of thosethings that really does help
reset and whether you're feelingor coping with something at the
moment, it gives you a littlebit of space to look at it with
a little more depth or clarityor have a wider.
(16:26):
Like peripheral gaze as to whatis actually important or what
needs to focus.
For me, breath and the way thatwe kind of work with it has been
that to create a space that iswelcoming and inviting for that
type of release and ability togo into the things that are
uncomfortable to help getthrough that whole idea of on
the other side of that type ofemotion is some sort of euphoric
(16:48):
bliss.
Julia (16:49):
Yeah, I would even consider as a daily emotional
hygiene, and use your voice tocommunicate and to teach people.
Cause there's a lot of peoplethat don't use their voice for
anything and how to become morefamiliar with this.
I always invite people in thesessions to sing along with me
to use the voice because we'reall singers.
(17:09):
We all know how to sing.
It's such a primal thing is oneof the most primal things.
And we have this judgmentwhether it should be pretty
sounds or not pretty sounds,there's no such thing, we all
have a voice and we should allbe able to use it for different
purposes, emotional purposes,communication.
(17:30):
So I think I consider this asemotional hygiene.
And if we could do this on aregular basis, I think our life
would really change on manylevels.
Krista (17:40):
I think the world would change.
And I think it's no accidentthat your throat chakra is your
truth, right?
Julia (17:46):
Absolutely.
Krista (17:46):
It's a way to express your truth instead of hiding
your truth or denying yourtruth.
Yeah, I like the way you saythat though, Julia.
That's It's powerful.
El (17:56):
I always tell clients that, especially whatever I teach
vocal toning, that your voice isthe most intimate experience of
sound that you have.
It, it really is becauseotherwise sound is always coming
from an external source, but tohear it coming from an internal
source and actually resonatingyour body centers, your energy
centers.
Because your head is basically aspeaker.
Nobody else hears your voice andexperiences your voice the way
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that you do.
That's one reason why it's weirdto hear a recording of yourself
because you're missing all thatadditional resonance that
happens in your head that youdon't hear when it's recorded
and played back to you.
So, Encouraging clients toparticipate in that with you can
be super transformational.
Julia (18:36):
absolutely.
Yes.
Krista (18:38):
Yeah.
I had no idea that Sound andtoning and singing and all of
that frequency could impact mein that way.
That sound really took me.
It was wild.
It was wild to allow it to takeme to feel it take me.
(18:59):
I learned a lot about what wecan do with our own bodies using
breath and tone and sound andmovement and all of it.
I think that so much of what wecan do and who we are is
Undiscovered,
El (19:17):
it's a really powerful way to extract emotion using your
voice to latch on to aspects ofenergy or emotion and then
express it and release it andgoing back to this concept of
your voice is the most intimateexperience of sound and
vibration that you'll feelbecause you're creating it
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inside of you.
So then To grab on to something,dislodge it using your voice.
Grab onto it, whether it's aconcept or energy, anxiety, can
be super powerful.
Mike (19:50):
Absolutely.
Krista (19:51):
Funny when you say that, I remember.
Immediately that I coach peopleto use tone and sound in
breathwork sessions in groundingsessions so that they can, use
it as a tool is a vehicle torelease energy.
What I think I wasn't aware ofis how someone else's tone and
(20:12):
sound can do that for us to.
But how did I not know that?
I mean, That's what music is andthat's what, singing along to
the radio is that's what, cryingis.
Yeah, it just it, thisexperience opened me up.
To a completely different levelof understanding of it or
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understanding of the power ofit.
I would say how effective it is.
It's far more complex than Igave it credit for.
Gina, I would love for you totell us about your experience
bring us into your world.
Gina (20:50):
I giggle because I know that you and I have been,
sending each other voice memos,both from Our immediate
experience of it and then whathas unfolded post session.
I would say I felt the biggestemotional release that I had in
such a long time.
And I would say the level ofintuition pouring through me.
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Just felt crystal clear aboutthe direction I needed to head
in my life, where I need to beliving my relationship with my
son.
It was just so much.
I was like, okay, ding ding.
The next day I went surfing andI swear I was almost like
borderline.
I don't want to use the wordmanic because that kind of puts
a little bit of a negativeconnotation, but I was.
(21:37):
Just like one of my girlfriends,we had a tea after and she was
like, what did you, what didthese people do?
You are just, and I was like,I've got everything sorted and
blah, and I was just like, andshe was sitting there and she's
you really Gina seem so, and I'mlike, yep, and I think I'm going
to be living half the year inMexico and I'm going to spend
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the rest in Ojai.
So fast forward to where I amnow.
This is a vulnerable, honest,where I'm like, am I allowed to
swear on this show?
No.
Okay.
No.
Some people actually, it'sreally, it's a thing.
There's Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You
El (22:15):
can totally swear on this show.
Gina (22:17):
Okay.
What the fuck?
That space of that, it was themost euphoric 24 hours that I
think I've had outside of doingsome like medicinal stuff or
drugs in my past.
And now I'm just bumping upagainst Lots of shadow, stuck
(22:42):
material, relational patterns inmy relationship.
I feel like, I don't know if youguys, you probably witnessed me,
I was shaking on such a levelwhen we were doing it, That, and
you probably both could speak tothis more.
For me, it felt like this insanekind of Kundalini rising or
something.
(23:04):
That, yeah, I felt like itblasted my world a little bit.
And and I don't say this withany negative connotation.
I say this with just like thingsthat I've needed to face with my
partner or, who I am as amother.
And even though all those verycrystal clear intuitions came
through, I assumed all of thatwas going to be easy, and I
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assumed that I was just like,yeah, I've got the clear
direction, but now I'm likereally facing I'm just facing a
lot is what I want to say.
Krista (23:35):
Yeah, that it opens you up and now you're facing the
obstacles that are in your wayto get to that place became
crystal clear.
It gives you access to all ofit.
But in all of it, there arebarriers and limitations and
beliefs and behaviors.
So it's regulating and movingthrough.
(23:58):
But I think what a gift to seeall of it.
The good and the bad.
What's not allowing you fullaccess.
Full liberation, let's say, doesthat feel true?
Gina (24:10):
It's very true and very well said what you just shared
because I feel like, all thethings that I felt, whether it
was my own podcast and thesecertain things that I was like
yes.
And then, when you go back toyour normal daily life.
And bump up against your woundedparts, your shadow material.
It's these things where it'sokay, Jean, are you really going
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to, lovingly hold, but face thisstuff so that you can move
through to these other spacesthat were very clear.
So it was almost like I don'twant to say this.
The experience for me was likeCandyland.
It was just like, yes, and thennow I'm, yeah, in a scary ride.
(24:53):
No that's a dramatic, it'sYou're in a real ride.
I'm on a real ride.
Not scary.
That wasn't the right word, butI'm on a real ride with my life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It reminds me quickly.
I had an experience where wilddolphins sonar my heart and
blasted it open.
And I immediately burst intotears and my heart was so open
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and I was in the highest stateof bliss and love I've ever
experienced.
But in opening my heart,everything that I had
suppressed, like all the pain inmy heart came up, like the next
day, I was like, Oh, there'sthis too.
And I've got to deal with this.
It allows you access to, themost magnificent realms that we
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as humans can a cane, there'sthe contrary, right?
There's the pendulum swing tothe other side as well, which is
also magic.
I always say our one job on thisplanet is to feel our feelings
good and bad.
And we live in a culture thatgives us, a gazillion
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opportunities to distractourselves and not feel.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Mike (26:09):
Gravity tends to take effect.
Like even though you can fly upreally high, it's like there's
something that does, there's adensity that comes in that wants
to ground us again, too.
And sometimes that can be apattern that can be like a, some
sort of emotional thing thatwe're going through, or just.
I don't know.
I think it's our ability toconfront it with a new
perspective, or even likeknowing that higher that, that
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peak state is also stillavailable on as we're moving
through these different things.
Krista (26:38):
That's why we move through the deeper things to get
to that place.
I think we lose perspective whenwe're in the heavy or the shadow
of like, this is it.
This is my life.
This is all I've got and forgetthat we're processing to
alleviate so that we can reallyraise our vibration, our
frequency, our existence into amore blissful state.
Mike (26:59):
Absolutely.
It's like the small self thinksand the true self knows.
The things that we think aboutand the things that we ruminate
with and keep us in the mind andnot really truly in our hearts
or truly in our sensing body,where I feel like the gnosis and
the real intuition and thewisdom resides.
I think it's a tug of war, we'reconstantly have to play that
game of who's in control here?
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I think breathwork takes you tothat state that gives you a
little bit more alleviation fromthe heaviness and the knowing
that is really within you thatis like This is true for me and
I feel this now and it's whetherit's going to take you on a
different path or not It's oneof those things that helps Give
a moment of clarity and whetheror not it sticks and takes,
we'll see.
but I hope it absolutely doeskeep unfolding.
Gina (27:43):
I hope I'm still moving to Mexico.
Yeah.
To your point, Mike, I thinkthat my small self started to go
into this space of questioning,like questioning were those
really like real intuition?
Was that just this false,totally, otherworldly.
And then I was like, wait asecond what, and I had to really
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check myself and that small selfcreating that story of maybe
those weren't really real thingsand you were creating some story
of this, like magnificent, youknow, but I've watched a lot of
my clients who go deep intoceremony, and have really
intense euphoric, you know, aredancing in other realms and
other dimensions and then haveto come back and have to
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integrate and ground and, reallyfind where does the information
apply in this.
In this physical realm and inthis experience in our life and,
I was shocked that the breathwork and, Julia's voice really
took me there was, yeah.
Krista (28:46):
So, powerful.
I was with you in the sessionand had my own experience of it
felt like there was angelicpresence, and I don't go to
angels that's not my go to.
So to say that for me is.
and It was the most loving andbenevolent mother.
(29:09):
Angel energy came in and held meand allowed me to, I'm going to
cry, allowed me to, huh,interesting um, allowed me to be
healed in a way that I obviouslyreally needed, but it was so
unexpected.
It was such a journey.
It was like a plant medicinejourney.
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It took me all these places.
And then sometimes when you weretoning, I was like, I couldn't,
it was so confronting and youwere singing, right?
That's so incredible to me thatyou have that ability through
your voice, through your body,and I consider what you were
doing and we had a conversationabout it that we should open up
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now, but that you werechanneling something.
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I don't know what this song isabout, but please do it.
Mike (33:17):
Starting to bring your awareness back into the room
back into this moment, knowingthat whatever came through today
was exactly right for thismoment, for this day, no more,
no less, just allowing it to bewithout judgment, without it
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having to be a certain way, butjust accepting and allowing
Trusting that everything rightnow is in its perfect place, in
its perfect order.
Bringing yourself back, and whenyou're ready, without rushing,
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coming up to a seated position.
At your own pace, slowly andgently.
Krista (34:10):
Hi.
Hi.
Welcome back.
Wow.
How
Julia (34:17):
was it?
Gina (34:20):
I've done some breath work before, but nothing quite like
that.
That was Yeah.
That was incredible.
Thank you guys.
I felt an immense amount ofgratitude and to you, Krista,
for having me join.
So incredible.
Wow.
Yeah.
Julia (34:42):
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you for being up for this.
That's great.
So special.
Gina (34:47):
I don't know about Krista, but I feel like it hit all the
points.
Like I felt like when I was likereally like in the arc, as you
were describing, it was.
Yeah.
The music was beautiful.
Krista (34:59):
Yeah.
Gina (34:59):
I feel
Krista (35:07):
like If I start talking, I'm going to cry.
Yeah.
Um, Julia, I mean, you're nothuman.
Yes.
There were moments.
I don't love, I don't know if Ican put into words, but I was
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held with such a like purefeminine motherly healing Yeah.
I, I, I, I, I can't, I don'tknow if words can express, but
it was incredible.
And thank you.
Julia (35:44):
Thank you.
I felt really, you were veryreceptive.
Yeah.
I felt it really thereceptivity.
That's why there was receivers,resp, reciprocated, yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
Yeah.
Krista (35:57):
Would love to understand your experience as the
practitioner.
What are you feeling?
What are you looking for?
What are you honing in on interms of how you're holding
space for the client?
Because I had my own wildexperience.
Gina had her own wild experiencewas very separate.
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So how do you navigate that forboth of you as practitioners?
Julia (36:22):
I think we've, we start by creating a, an atmosphere,
making everybody comfortablethrough breath.
We stabilize everybody.
And then for me, he provides therhythm.
Rhythmic pattern that gets me ona trance.
I start getting a certain typeof euphoria which is good, but
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again, you see this, we playwith this duality and I start
really sensing you.
He really keeps me groundingbecause I think he's more earth
element and more air.
So I need that type ofgroundness that it's safe
because I have this tendency ofgoing very much with the energy
of the room and there has to bea sort of a Space, you know a
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safe space between I'm here andThere so because I need to
really being charged in controlof the situation
Krista (37:17):
Exactly.
And you're taking the roomsomewhere, so you can't be too
of the room.
Correct.
Yeah.
Julia (37:23):
So breath provides the stability and sound allows you
and enables you to take you intothis insinuating space.
Sound frequency that enables usto, whether you're in a state
where maybe I feel we need to godeeper there and then back and
also playing because everybody,as you say, is experiencing
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different journeys, differentemotional journeys.
Yeah.
Dancing.
But even if everybody'sexperiencing, I always sense
this, even if everybody's goingthrough their own journey,
there's always a general energywithin the room.
Yeah.
It's like a synchronicitybetween everybody.
Krista (38:01):
What does that feel like?
How would you describe that?
Is it like a kind of a pitch ora level.
Mike (38:07):
It's like a temperature change.
Yes.
If we're like in water, it feelslike when you're swimming in the
ocean, it's oh, that's warm allof a sudden.
Like what?
It feels almost like that.
It's very interesting.
Krista (38:17):
That's a beautiful way to describe it.
Julia (38:19):
Sometimes we go with everybody.
We need to release we do a lotof release cleanse keeping
focused with our breath as well.
That the breath really keeps ussane and, staying there.
And then the sound is what isdriving us where we want to go.
And if maybe we need to switchbetween one, one energy to
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another.
That's where sound takes us alsowith with percussion, with
different rhythmic patterns anddifferent instruments.
If we need to alleviate, if weneed some sort of water and
refreshment, you use otherinstruments to, to change the
the color the color of the roomthe temperature of the energy.
And I also, there's really,there's an intuition.
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How much you can push and whenyou should hold back and push
back and say, Okay, that'senough.
It's about being gentle and notso gentle sometimes, and the
duality and the beauty ofsadness and trauma as well.
There's a, people with theirmovement, like Gina, we saw you,
you were so beautiful.
Your body was a wave.
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Your breath, your body was sosynchronized that allowed me
that inspired me as well.
So I'm not just on a healingpoint of view, but on a musical
point of view.
So there's a symphony occurring,not just on a healing point of
view, but on the musical pointof view.
That inspires me to go somewherewhere, I don't know, where I
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stop using this and somethingchannels in the room and
something is guiding us, all ofus.
So it's not just us, it's all ofus, guiding this.
Mike (40:01):
It isn't interesting because we have a structure for
sure.
There is this journey in the arcand there's like points that we
know we're going to hit, butit's very like jazz.
It's always different.
We're always going to be playingit slightly unique to whatever
the room is asking for, it'swildly different every time.
Julia (40:16):
We learned so much from each session.
Krista (40:21):
I'm sure.
How do you prepare for eachsession to allow yourself to be
open and fluid, but also tocreate a protection for your
energy?
How do you prepare?
How do you step into eachsession?
Mike (40:36):
We do a lot of grounding techniques time in nature
meditating.
Usually in the space, I wouldopen up the directions and Colin
support and we ask all theancestors from different
lineages different parts thatwe've all.
Inherited it's welcoming them into help heal and alleviate any
pains or traumas that maybe wehave on from them.
And what can we learn and whatcan we gain?
(40:56):
And how can we like walk in agood way with this information?
So for me, like connecting tothose forces and elements really
helped me ground.
As much as I can be an anchorfor the group, that's really
what I do to really focus myenergy.
But it's a little different foryou.
You have a little more warmingyour tones.
Yes.
Julia (41:14):
I vocally warm up, obviously from a vocal point of
view, there's warming up.
I try to also do breathingexercises to really warm up all
the core, because sometimes it'svery intense vocal sessions of
one hour, almost nonstop.
I need to take breaks where hereally helps me grounding again
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through breath because thetendency with me is to really go
and take off and I really needthis grounding moments to, go
back and reset, so I can be inbetter, better service for
everybody.
Krista (41:53):
Beautiful.
And you have us at the beginningof the session, we did some
manual massage around ourdiaphragm, and then you had us
warm up our voices as well.
And I'd never experienced thatin a breathwork session before.
Julia (42:08):
This is a little warm up to activate our diaphragm, we're
going to start massaging themuscles behind the rib cage,
feeling them, unlocking any sortof tension we have there.
Mike (42:21):
If you follow the sternum right under the breastbone and
you go under the ribs betweenthe ribs and the abdomen, you
can get into those tight spots,give yourself a little massage.
As you exhale, you'll be able tocreate a little more space.
You feel how that expands.
Sidewise.
Focusing on belly breathing deepdown into the lower diaphragm,
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creating more space in the spineand the side body.
Julia (42:48):
Now we're going to activate our vocal, head
resonance through differentexercises.
The first one will be through ahum.
We start with four takes in,they're gonna be like short,
quick inhales.
And then we're gonna pause andthen we're gonna do the
hum.
Which is hum.
So we hear this buzzing kind ofsound.
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That helps us, being familiarwith the head resonance.
So we'll exhale all the way out.
Mike (43:14):
Inhale for five, one,
Julia (43:19):
hold it.
Mike (43:22):
Mm.
Pause.
Inhale for 5 1 2.
Julia (43:44):
Now with the mouth open, we're going to hum as well,
making an NG sound like, We'regoing to use
the root of the tongue againstthe soft palate.
Inhale again for five.
1, 2, 3, 4.
Five.
Hold.
(44:05):
We're gonna do it again The nextexercise, we're going to try to
release through a, I call itupwards and downwards siren.
So we're going to try to get theresonance of the voice, the high
resonance in the third eyethrough a nym nym.
(44:27):
Very tiny sound.
So we take a breath.
(44:58):
Near, near, near, near, near,near, near, near.
Mike (45:02):
This should open up some of the pineal gland.
Some of the third eye shouldactivate, feel the vibration.
Just starting really small verysmall in order to really get the
vibration and the placement ofthe the third eye, this is where
exactly the resonance point ofthe sound starts.
(45:22):
So it's like a threading, like aneedle thread, and then it
expands.
That's how you get to hit theright resonance for any sound
that you're going to makewhenever we use our voice.
Julia (45:33):
Mostly just to warm the body up, get yourself
acclimated, calm the nervoussystem also.
It's a little bit activating butit also gives you an
understanding of how thedifferent breath and the sounds
can maybe open different thingsand unlock parts of you.
And so throughout the wholebreath work, there is an
opportunity and invitation tojust explore that.
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Let this be a playground.
And see if certain forms oftoning or sounds can allow
something new to appear or torelease.
Because each one of theseparticular sounds and shapes
that we're making with themouth, access different parts of
the chakra systems and thefrequency allows for more space
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to heal.
I think it's very important on avocal point of view, if you're
going to use your voicethroughout the session to be
more open to it to have thethroat chakra more open.
And as I always say, I inviteeverybody to join me through
singing and I've experiencedthat the people that join me,
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they use my voice to link to myvoice.
Their voice with mine, Someclients have told me, I felt
your voice in my voice, and thethings that I couldn't express,
I could express through you aswell.
I really invite people to alwaysuse the voice in the sessions.
I think it's crucial causebreath takes you on a very
subconscious level very, verydeep.
(46:58):
But if you combine that withsound It takes you to even a
deeper level.
Krista (47:03):
It's as if you're allowing us to piggyback or tack
on to you as you take us higher.
Yes, exactly.
Julia (47:10):
I want everybody to use my voice in order to Lift off
with their own voice.
As I even make more invitingsounds, not so pretty, I'm going
to make nasty sounds.
So everybody joins me, see, Idon't need to sing pretty as
when we say sing, I don't know,I should call it another name.
So everybody would feel morewelcome and be invited to join
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with their vocal cords.
Krista (47:33):
I think we live in a state of performance, right?
We want to be accepted.
We are people pleasers to somedegree.
And I think we all live.
In some facet of performativelife.
So if I'm going to sing or makenoise in the world or open
myself up into the world, it'sgot to be acceptable.
(47:54):
So doing the contrary and then,Seeing that, I'm safe and that's
okay.
It's just expression.
I think that's so important,especially for women too.
To be
Julia (48:05):
absolutely.
Yes.
Krista (48:06):
Small or coquettish or demure or pretty is such a big
thing.
Julia (48:12):
So getting rid of any form of.
Mental judgment that we have isa daily hygiene, for, or your
spiritual well being.
Krista (48:22):
I'd also extend that into that we all connect to
source and spirit through achannel.
We all have that wiring in us.
People are more aware of it andpractice it on a bigger level
than others, but same kind ofthing where other people have no
awareness of it or don't thinkthey can do it
Mike (48:42):
on top of that, the different resonance points and
where the vibration is reallymost impactful with certain of
the exercises that we shared.
And that kind of builds on whatElle was saying how.
We don't often hear our ownvoices and we're in these kind
of chambers and music andvibration.
I love the saying architectureis frozen music and it's like
some of these vibrations andtones and frequencies help
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unlock parts and bring music orsome sort of orchestration for
the body to give movement andfluidity to these parts that are
usually locked up and we onlyjust have our one tone or we're
just singing one note, but thishelps open up the whole
cathedral in a lot of ways.
Krista (49:22):
Beautiful.
Gina, what do you think?
Gina (49:25):
I was actually just thinking about my girlfriend,
Katie, who's very active, had astroke within the last six
months.
And it was shocking to us andher obviously the most.
So she recently wrote an articleon how she.
Re established a relationshipwith herself because she didn't
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really know who she was afterthe stroke so I, I said to her
what were your top three things?
And she said, number one wassinging and this was a couple of
days after our session, shesaid, singing, looking at
pictures of when I was a child.
And there was something else,but it all for me to what you
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were saying, Krista was likeopening up her channel and her
connection to source.
It was so beautiful, but yes, soto all of this, I think that
singing is incredibly impactful.
Krista (50:18):
what do you think the scope of breathwork is?
What can it do for someone orwhy would someone practice it?
Mike (50:27):
Not everybody's a good fit for a lot of these things.
It can be really unsettling ordisruptive.
Typically there is an intakeform and we do make sure that
people are in a good state toactually participate in these
things.
If someone is like on the edgeor having a hard time coping
This can amplify a lot of thosethings.
If there is a certain trauma orsomething that hasn't been fully
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processed, it can put somebodyinto a retraumatized state that
breath can actually trigger andthey can relive those moments.
Krista (50:57):
Does that have to do with the central nervous system?
Is it disregulating them in away that then circulates a
pattern of thinking that'soverwhelming.
Mike (51:05):
Yeah, I think hyperventilating and what that
does to the body and the mind.
So what, when we do ourpractice, it's all through nasal
breathing.
We try to activate theparasympathetic nervous system
that gets people more into astate, and they can be more in a
calm state to process thesethings.
It's usually not as activatingif you're taking mouth inhales,
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which is during this the likefight or flight and getting
people in a more aroused state.
This is more of a subtle, aslow, gradual climb with the
nasal breathing.
But it, choose your ownadventure.
There's nothing wrong with doingthe mouth breathing and going
more of a activating breath.
But the nasal breathing helpswith that to help bring that
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kind of calm uplift.
With anybody with any type ofreally hard to cope with trauma
that they're trying to process,it has to be under really, Close
care or something in person andbreath work, I wouldn't say is
the first place to start forsure.
So it's like being able to sitwith yourself, sit in
contemplation and confront someof the hardest parts of
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ourselves is really importantbefore going into a session that
might just throw everything inyour face and be very unsettling
for somebody.
But yeah, physically there areother contraindications, whether
it's like kidney disease oranybody that's had detached
retina or blood pressure, orcardiovascular disease or
anything like that, there arethings that it can be unhelpful
(52:33):
for, but there are things thatyou can do that aren't what we
practice that are still steps inthe right direction or towards
that, that just aren't as.
intense, I would say.
Krista (52:46):
Gina, as a therapist, what are your thoughts?
in terms of breathwork.
I'm thinking breathwork would bein the same vein as plant
medicine.
Anything that takes you to analtered state can be incredibly
dysregulating because you arejourneying into parts unknown,
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parts in yourself.
So Love to hear your thoughts onthe mental component to this.
Gina (53:17):
I feel like Mike articulated it really well, I
look at talk therapy as acontainer, and it's a limited
container so we go to deeperthings like the plant medicine
or the breath work.
To really access these spaces ofdeep trauma.
Not that we can't access that innormal talk therapy, but that's
also why I do things like EMDRand things that really access
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the body and the subconsciousmind.
I don't really like to stick todiagnoses or the DSM but maybe
somebody with tendencies thatmight shoot somebody into a
manic episode yeah, that wouldbe my gut would be just to use
with caution.
Krista (53:58):
It goes back to an earlier thought of there's.
the experience of being in theintellect, and that's what a lot
of talk therapy addresses,intellectualizing and
understanding our traumas.
But then this brings us intoalmost the home of the trauma.
I believe our trauma lives inour body and our feelings.
And so it's taking us into adifferent, space I think the,
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Intellect gives us the illusionof control.
And in journeying into thesespaces, we are actively
releasing our Intellectualconception of control and
surrendering.
We're surrendering into partsunknown.
And I think that can beincredibly dysregulating if
someone doesn't feel like theyhave, solid ground or never
(54:45):
established solid ground.
Mike (54:47):
But it reminds me of, I think it's MDAs for somebody.
It's if you try to bring who youthink you are into infinite
consciousness, you're not gonnahave a good time It's.
That surrender, it is, it's likea full let go, a full send, that
can be the heart of it.
Krista (55:02):
And that's incredibly scary.
Gina (55:04):
Yeah,
Krista (55:05):
This work certainly had a big impact on Gina and I it
opened up things that I now haveaccess to that I'm so grateful
for.
I think anytime we can pull backthe curtain or change the lens,
have you seen anything thatyou'd like to share with your
work in terms of the impact it'shad on your clients?
Mike (55:26):
Yeah.
We've worked with a good rangeof people.
Some people that were likeconfronting cancer diagnosis and
really like deep grief and lossand
Julia (55:35):
grief and a lot of trauma really locked in their body.
Some people really.
Somatized to a level that,causes all these physical
illnesses to people that feeltrapped, feel they're not able
to communicate to express thingsand they feel so subdued in a
way and breath and voice reallyhelps them on a subconscious
(55:58):
level to really speak theirtruth.
For artists that feel stack thisis a great exercise to really
reset on an artistic level.
Krista (56:07):
Yeah, any kind of artistic block to transcend and
reconnect.
That's beautiful.
Tell us what clients actuallycome to you for, in addition to
what you just mentioned.
Why would clients seek you out?
Mike (56:21):
Yeah, I think it's a combination of curiosity to
explore themselves deeper Ithink what we do is we provide
the space and we play a certainpart, but it's really for people
to go in and become their ownhealer and really work through
and come to their own innerknowings and sense making and
self creation.
We really do promote and try tohelp attract and be on that
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frequency of we're not here toheal anybody.
We're here to create a space foryou to explore and experiment
with.
Parts of yourself that may bedormant or be hindered by some
sense of who you think youshould be.
Julia (56:54):
Go back to their inner child, the playfulness of things
where their true identity reallyemanates.
And that we lose, as we grow andwe experience different
circumstances and events andtraumas and life itself.
But there's a personality thatwe form.
And then there's our inner coreidentity that is to most of us.
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I speak for myself as well,dormant on many levels, because
we think that's not allowed andaccepted because we've got this
sense of judgment.
And to provide this safe spacewhere you have the freedom to
express on any level, on anemotional level, on an identity
level as well, where we don'tjudge if that's accepted or not
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accepted by society.
Krista (57:40):
That just made me so happy to think of it in that
context.
That's so beautiful.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Gina, I'd love to include you inthis because I consider you a
healer, If you could tell us allwhy you do the work you do what
does it mean to you?
What does it give to you?
Gina (57:57):
I think, if I'm to say this in the most succinct way
possible, getting people back totheir inner essence.
I'm going to sound maybe rom dosy in just like bringing people
back home.
I think that's why I do what Ido.
And if I'm to go a little bitdeeper into it, losing a mother
to cancer at 17 and then reallynot understanding because there
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wasn't much language for griefin Western culture.
And, as a teenager notunderstanding God, my emotions
are so big.
And.
Navigating that territory foryears yeah, just helping people
walk through their pain, becauseas humans, we're going to
experience in this incarnationsuffering and pain and we try to
(58:42):
avoid it at such deep levels,but yeah There is a part of me
that I just really love thejourney of just being with
people in all moments and allspaces of their life and yeah,
that's why I do what I do, Weneed to heal, the level of
conflict, the level ofaggression, and this tribal
family system of where we'rejust not healed,
Krista (59:04):
Funny you say that.
After this session, I said toall of you, what came through
for me is that I've beenfighting so much all my life.
And I so got the message of, Idon't have to fight anymore, but
it didn't occur to me.
I was in such a routine or adiscipline even of everything's
a fight.
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And I got this big wave of God,what if I don't fight?
What if I don't have to fight?
What if the fighting is over?
But, you look at the landscapeof our world and It's a fight
everywhere, in every way, we'reall fighting, mike and Julia,
whoever would like to go firstin terms of what this work means
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to you, why do you do it, whatdoes it give it to you?
Julia (59:53):
To me, it's not a work, it's my identity it's my
passion, it's my way ofexpression.
And it's something that I alwaysknew what I wanted to do.
I remember before I was evenable to speak, I would hear
music and I would hear voiceslike singers.
And I knew I could do that.
I knew I could sing.
(01:00:13):
I knew I could use my voice toexpress.
So it was a very innate instinctfor me.
And I think if I could use thistool to help other people and to
connect, which there's so much,I feel there's so much
disconnection between us in theworld.
I don't think there's any otherway for me.
This is my little grain of sand,you know, towards not little,
(01:00:37):
but
Krista (01:00:38):
okay.
Beautifully done.
Thank you.
Mike (01:00:44):
Uh, the question, what does this work mean to us?
And what does it do for us?
Krista (01:00:49):
Why do you do this work?
Um, what does it give to you?
What does it mean to you?
Mike (01:00:54):
Yeah, I do this work just to continue exploring.
One of our mutual friends callshimself an experienced beginner
treating everything is he's juststarting out.
And I love that.
And I think that's super humble.
And I come to everything, everypart of this work or anything
that I approach I'm here tolearn and I want to help other
people and that feels good toselfishly, it feels good for me
(01:01:17):
to help people.
I'm here for that.
And I really love just, it ismusic.
It doesn't feel like work.
It's definitely play andproviding a space for people to
open up and explore their ownparts really is fulfilling, so
it's a selfish endeavor.
Krista (01:01:35):
Having not much knowledge of what the session
was going to be or what yourwork is, I now want to do it all
over again.
Now that I have experience of itand know more about it, I want
to dig in deeper.
Julia (01:01:48):
Yes, that would be even a much more powerful experience.
Krista (01:01:53):
Yeah.
So expect that phone call.
As practitioners, as humans, asbeautiful beings, what are your
self care practices or yourspiritual practices?
how do you balance your energyand what kinds of things knock
you out of alignment?
Gina (01:02:10):
For me, surfing is number one.
But it's an interesting thingbecause I have to watch.
I'm a bit of an addict with it.
I think there's worse thingsthat I could be addicted to than
being in the ocean.
But for me, It's been a practiceever since I went to grad
school, just getting into theocean.
And I imagine, client's energy,anything that I've maybe picked
(01:02:31):
up, I just imagine it drippingout.
But yeah, the ocean for me isnumber one.
The other big ones, obviouslymeditation.
I chant, chanting is a reallybig one for me.
What knocks me off?
I would say in years prior, evena few glasses of wine, and I've
gotten to a space at 42 yearsold now that I'm like, alcohol
(01:02:54):
is not.
So I would say that wassomething in the past that I
could really feel like, Oh no, Ican just have a glass of wine.
And it really, would knock meoff.
And so I think another part ofmy self care is really honoring
how sensitive I am.
And I think any of us who dothis work, we're sensitive for a
reason.
Yeah, I can be a little bit typeA about how I'm taking care of
(01:03:16):
my energy field and just mybody.
But that's what works.
And when I fall off of that it'shard to show up for clients.
So not sleeping for a year withmy baby was, that'll be the last
thing I say that threw me offbig time.
Just, really.
Yeah.
So I had to find other ways toground in that space.
(01:03:38):
Cause you're like in analternate state.
Yeah.
So those are my things.
Krista (01:03:43):
Beautiful.
Julia (01:03:45):
We were discussing this, because we do tarot reading as
well.
And we were talking about theethic and the the commitment
towards clients, whether you'regoing to give a reading to feel
committed to come from a neutralplace where you're balanced on
an emotional level.
So you can have the presence tochannel what comes because, if
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you're not in a healthy state ona spiritual level, on a mental
level, on an emotional level,you're not going to be able to
provide, whether if it's aacoustic breath session, tire
breathing psychotherapy, anyform of healing practice.
I think there is a commitmentand an ethical code that you
should have to take care ofyourself in order for you to be
(01:04:27):
able to provide the best serviceyou can possibly provide.
Absolutely.
Mike (01:04:33):
What is that for you?
Julia (01:04:35):
Meditation, grounding.
I need a lot of grounding.
Emotions, sometimes can lift us.
I need a lot of grounding,routine it's very crucial for
me.
Even if I'm here or there ortraveling, I need some form of
even silly routine.
I like to write things I'mgrateful for on a daily basis.
(01:04:56):
And people I send my love to andmore things I.
wish, to the universe.
And they're just littlepractices, that set me on a good
vibrational state.
And that, that helps setting thecolor of the day, especially in
the morning.
Beautiful.
Krista (01:05:14):
Yeah.
I love a routine.
I've always loved a routine andI can feel so it's a grounding
technique for me.
Mike, anything you'd like toshare.
Mike (01:05:29):
Similar to Gina, I just love nature, being near the
ocean, surfing.
That helps me ground breathwork, obviously.
Movement, very important for me.
I just need to stay physicallyactive.
Routines with that is reallyimportant.
And doing art, my form ofmindful meditation is just doing
my painting and things likethat.
Things that knock me off balanceare definitely Julia's emotions.
(01:05:53):
Yeah.
Krista (01:05:58):
Good work, Julia.
Julia (01:06:01):
I left him off.
Yes.
Krista (01:06:02):
Yeah.
Gina, have you seen Mike'sartwork?
No.
Oh, my God.
No.
Take a look.
It transcends or transforms you.
You'll have a visceralexperience just looking at it.
You'll really love it.
Surfer to surfer.
I think you guys will have thatconnection.
(01:06:23):
Yeah.
this has been so beautiful.
I'm just so grateful to all ofyou, such incredible individuals
and seekers and healers andadventurers.
Is there anything else thatanyone would like to share?
Mike (01:06:42):
We're studying an online course so people can go through
these.
Different exercises andpractices to help open up their
voice and explore everything.
Yeah, that'll be, that's comingsoon.
It'll be, by the time this isout, it'll be ready.
So yeah, excited to share thatand make it, more available to
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people.
But yeah, we're also we're justequally as grateful for all of
you and to make this possible.
Absolutely.
For the work that you're doing,we're just shining that light
back at you.
Thank you.
Julia (01:07:15):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Krista (01:07:18):
And then where can people find you?
Mike (01:07:21):
Animaventus.
com is our website.
Krista (01:07:25):
And that'll be on our website and Gina I mentioned at
the top of the show yourpodcast, but tell us a little
bit about where we can find youand what you're working on.
Gina (01:07:34):
You can find me at Gina minority.
com.
Or people can find me on spacesbetween social media.
Krista (01:07:42):
All right guys.
Thank you.
Thank you Thank you.
Thank you so much.
This thank you.
An honor and a pleasure.
Yeah.
Thank you guys.
Gina (01:07:51):
Very inspiring.
Yeah.
Hope to see you all in theflesh.
Krista (01:07:56):
Yes.
Soon.
Yeah, soon.
Yeah.
Love you.
Love you.
Love you.
Okay,
Love,
love.
Bye bye.
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It's like the small self thinks and the true self knows.
The things that we think aboutand the things that we ruminate
with and keep us in the mind andnot really truly in our hearts
or truly in our sensing body,where I feel like the gnosis and
the real intuition and thewisdom resides.
I think it's a tug of war, we'reconstantly have to play that
game of who.
Who's in control here?
(00:25):
So I think breathwork takes youto that state that gives you a
little bit more alleviation fromthe heaviness and the knowing
that is really within you thatis like This is true for me and
I feel this now and it's whetherit's going to take you on a
different path or not It's oneof those things that helps Give
a moment of clarity and whetheror not it sticks and takes,
we'll see.
Krista (00:45):
Welcome to the Beginner's Guide to the Third
Eye, the podcast that delvesinto the profound realms of
spiritual experiences, exploringthe dedicated practitioners and
various modalities that guide uson our transformative path.
Together, we will explore themystical, the magical, the
enlightened, and the sacred.
(01:06):
In each episode, we pairseasoned practitioners,
spiritual experiences, orhealing modalities, and a
willing participant to sharetheir experience in working
together.
We will explore the uniqueinsights, stories, and wisdom
gained from their own profoundjourneys, unveiling the
extraordinary narratives thatshape spiritual seekers and
(01:27):
practitioners alike.
My name is Krista Rauschenbergand my work as a healer has
emerged from hundreds of hoursof certified training, spiritual
initiations, direct experience,and deep personal work.
I have been employed in thehealing arts as a postpartum
doula, an advanced Akashicreader, an Akashic breathwork
practitioner, and a writer.
(01:49):
Facilitating and educatingpeople through their personal,
spiritual, and healing journeysis my greatest source of
happiness.
El (01:56):
And I'm Elle Larson.
I use sound and space to helpbalance internal and external
environments.
I've practiced holistic healingmodalities for over 20 years,
and my work includes Tibetanbull sound healing, feng shui,
reiki, and shamanism.
Krista (02:09):
Welcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the
Third Eye where we demystify themystical.
On today's show, we'll beexploring Anima Ventus
breathwork, which is acombination of vocal toning,
expression, alignment andbreathwork.
We will be joined by MikePinette and Julia Cubo Pinette,
(02:29):
who are the founders of AnimaVentus.
Together, they facilitate ajourney enabling participants to
release limiting beliefs.
Reconnect with abandoned partsof themselves and rediscover
their inner knowing.
Mike's expertise and breathworkuncovers and reintegrates hidden
aspects of the self, promotingdeep somatic release, while
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Julia's skill in sound therapyand vocal activation enhances
the experience.
Her intuitive use of voice andhealing sounds is tailored to
resonate with each individual'sunique energy, Making every
session a deeply personal andimmersive experience.
And our willing participant isGina Minardi, a licensed
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marriage and family therapistwith a specialization in art
therapy.
Over the last 13 years, Gina hasworked in homeless shelters,
rehabs, and is now in her ownprivate practice.
She is also the host of Spacesin Between, A podcast dedicated
to the spaces between laughter,tears, ego, soul, and messy
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growth.
It's one of my favorite podcastsand always leaves me feeling
seen and inspired.
Breathwork is a practice that isnear and dear to my heart as I
practice it on a regular basis.
I teach it and I also prescribeit to my clients.
So I was really excited to bringthis new form to our show.
I would like to mention that Iparticipated in this session
(03:55):
along with Gina, having neverworked with Mike and Julia in
this capacity before.
Let's welcome our guests.
Julia, I'd love to start withyou.
How did this work come to youand how has your life unfolded
to get you where you are today?
Julia (04:09):
It's started in a very different kind of ambience.
I'm an opera singer and I wasclassically trained since I was
Eight years old, I was going toconservatory for a classical
music training for piano voice.
I was Really focused ontechnique being stylistically
correct, which I really enjoyedit allowed me to travel and
(04:31):
discover different cultures,different countries.
I learned languages and aboutThree years ago, I started
having a sort of artistic crisisin terms of why do I do what I
do?
And I would get a lot offeedback saying, your music
transforms me and gets me toanother Real.
(04:53):
It's not just what you sing andwhat I hear is what I feel.
And I cannot quite explain whatit is.
And I felt signs from theuniverse telling me, I think you
should really think about whatis your true purpose of why
you're singing and why youenjoyed singing instead of just
using your voice as a tool Ofrefinement on a technical and
(05:17):
stylistic way, and it was thenwhen I started being really
interested in sound frequencyand sound healing and how to use
music and your voice to reallyuse it as a channel to transport
people to get into asubconscious where we can.
(05:38):
Deal with and heal traumas orunresolved issues with our
voice.
And it was then when I startedworking with Alexandra Tanu,
which is a master on soundfrequency and really getting
very in depth with thetechnicality of the frequency of
the sound and how we can get onthese subconscious layers.
(06:01):
It was then when I started aswell improvising and developing
my own technique and my own wayof dealing with voice at first I
would just do more primal soundsand then I realized why not also
using my operatic voice and thetechnique to use different
explorations with voice.
(06:21):
Why only, I was again, using toomuch of my classical mind of if
I do this style and I should notdo this other style.
And then I said, I want to mixthis.
I'm going to create nasty soundsas well.
Sometimes when we think ofmusic, let's make beautiful
sounds.
Why?
In life, there's beautiful andnot so beautiful and what's
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beautiful and what's notbeautiful anyway.
So I wanted to play withfrequencies and resonances in
the head, in the body and try tomake other people feel what I
was feeling, like getting myvoice in their vocal cords.
Krista (06:58):
When someone said to you that your voice transforms me,
did you have an inclinationprior to someone pointing that
out that you had some kind ofresonance or channel what was
happening for you before someoneelse made you aware of what was
happening for them?
Julia (07:17):
First, I wasn't aware of it.
And then I realized that throughmy voice and through music
connecting to other people'senergies and feeling what they
were feeling and trying to pullthem towards me to try to make
them feel bringing them to meand then make them feel whatever
emotional state, or say I wassinging a song about I don't
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know, bringing like Casta Diva,bringing peace on earth, I would
try through emotion to bringthem to me and then to express
that message.
So we would be connected in theroom because I used to do
concerts for private partieswhere there was very few people
and that would get veryintimate.
And that was a great opportunityfor me to feel into the
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vibration of people.
And that's when I realized if Ican do this for an entertainment
purpose, if I have this abilityto really get them without
asking questions, just from amusical point of view I think
this is somewhere where I canexplore and I'm still working in
progress, with thisexperimental.
(08:25):
And now with Mike, we'reincluding breath, which is
primal.
There's no sound without breath.
And I learned the diaphragmaticclassical way of breathing, but
he knows many different stylesof breathing, which I'm now
applying to my own singing.
And it's allowing me to get evenmore deep into the subconscious.
Krista (08:45):
Yeah, the session was incredible but also grounded,
unexpected in places.
I'd never experienced anythinglike it.
How did you guys come up withthe idea and are you still
creating it?
is each session fluid where youjust see where it takes you?
Tell us about your experiencecombining your talents.
Mike (09:08):
I can tell him my side.
I just remember we both had verycommon interests.
We were both very fascinatedabout the same worlds.
And when we started talking anddiscussing some of these things,
we were doing some trading ofher showing me how to open up
the voice and use differentparts of the body to open up the
vocal cords.
And then I was showing herbreath work, like different
(09:30):
things that I've been using tocreate the same feeling or
sensation, but to alleviatesomething or to feel something
or to welcome in some sort ofClearing process.
So combined, we're naturallyorganically started to
experiment.
Yeah, it's been a realplayground of experimenting what
opens up certain parts and howdo we connect this to other
(09:53):
elements that could be out ofalignment and how can we
formulate it in a way that'sreally specific.
Krista (10:00):
And when you say open up, that is an opportunity to
release, correct?
Or actually receive as well?
Mike (10:08):
For sure.
I think, you have to make spaceto receive.
I think there is like a certaineither clearing or opening
process to actually welcome insomething.
How do you feel about that?
Julia (10:20):
Yes.
I think you must be open toTapping to people's energies as
well.
If they're confronting their ownshadow.
Maybe sometimes you can add evenmore of that shadow through
sound and precaution becausehe's a wonderful precautionist.
There's also another wonderfulmix between sound and rhythm,
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which he would be more groundedearth element, and I would be
more water and air.
That really helps diving intothese subconsciences, There must
be a synergy of, communicationreceiving and given, and also
intuition how much you should gothere and when to stop and
release and be gentle,especially when you don't know
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the person, if it's someone thatyou work for the first time.
Krista (11:08):
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Cause some of the sounds youwere making were really
confronting, but it was meeting,parts of me that needed that
connection, even if it didn'tfeel good, it was incredibly
impactful and purposeful becausewe don't always reach for those
parts of ourselves that don'tfeel good.
(11:29):
If ever.
Mike, just for context, I'd loveto get a bit of your background.
Tell me about your experiencewith breathwork, how you came
about it, how long have you beenteaching it?
Mike (11:39):
Yeah started out doing yoga very early on and that was
like my entry point for Any formof breath work that was
connected to mindful breathing.
I have been about over a decadeworking with different
practitioners, I've studied withWim Hof, with Laird Hamilton,
with XPT.
I've done many different kind ofexperimental, more holotropic,
(12:01):
more Stanislav Grof and like thewhole.
the whole crew.
I've invited everybody'sperspective as far as like, how
do we breathe and how do wepinpoint certain experiences and
altered states of consciousnessthrough breath, but also
physiologically, how are wefunctionally breathing or how
can we use the breath to changeour state in a sense?
So, um, yeah, it's been justover time and just with practice
(12:26):
and, uh, I love surfing.
So breath is very important asfar as that is involved.
It's always been inspired by,some sort of functional use, but
I found the deeper I went withbreath and the more longer
journeys that I took with it,the more it opened up just
getting high on my own supplyand not needing external things
to get to be to a certain place.
And so that was the.
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The journey that got me to thispoint.
And then with the vocal aspectto just as this whole other
dimension to it, where it'susing frequency and sound to
access parts that may bedormant, that the breath can't
always send life energy to.
So,
Krista (13:03):
Yeah, it's amazing how something that we take for
granted possesses so much wealthand health and even magic.
There's so much in our breaththat is undiscovered.
It's really interesting, thework that you're doing and
Julia, before we move on, I'dlove to understand.
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So you trained as an operasinger in Spain, in Europe,
Julia (13:28):
In Spain, in, in Boston, New England Conservatory.
I did my bachelor's degree.
And then I did my master'sdegree at Cardiff university in
Wales.
And then I was doing differentproductions for young artists
programs in all around Europe.
Yeah, that was pretty much whatI was doing for until I was
around 28.
(13:50):
Then I started working fordifferent agencies for corporate
events to concerts with aquartet, string quartets as
well.
I was doing oratorio, which ismore sacred music as well.
So I went through differentphases.
Traveling around exploringdifferent styles, like between
German opera, French opera,Sarzuela, which is the small
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genre of Spanish opera.
So yeah, it was a journey for meon many levels.
Krista (14:18):
Gina, tell us a bit about your background and
experience.
I'd love to know what kinds ofreadings or healings you've had
before just to give us contextin terms of what you were coming
in with.
Gina (14:29):
I would say I wasn't coming in with a ton.
I had done, probably a fewbreathwork sessions And, they
were much more subtle than whatwe experienced And then I did
take a course of holotropicbreath work and working on that
myself and bringing that toclients.
(14:50):
So as far as readings, you meanlike intuitive readings or.
Krista (14:55):
Sure.
So I consider this more of ametaphysical practice.
Certainly working with energyand you're opening up to
something that you can't reallysee.
So in that realm, what otherthings have you done or did you
have any apprehension orexpectations coming into this?
Gina (15:14):
Yeah, great question.
I think that I just had a lot ofexcitement because I was really
in a, I think I said this whenwe were meeting, I was in a
really funky sort of stuckspace.
So I knew that Breathwork wasreally going to open me up.
My main emotions going into itwere excitement and and I think
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any deep dive that I've done,it's that surrender into, you
don't know how you're going torespond.
But this is like what I live foris stepping into these unknown
spaces where you just don't knowemotionally what's going to come
up and what's going to be shown.
So yeah, I was blown away withyou guys.
Krista (15:52):
Mike and Julia for someone that's never experienced
breath work, how would youdescribe it?
What is it?
And what is its purpose?
Fundamentally,
Mike (16:04):
for me, it's a bit of a palate cleanser as far as like
our emotional debris that we mayhave still residing within us.
I think it's really one of thosethings that really does help
reset and whether you're feelingor coping with something at the
moment, it gives you a littlebit of space to look at it with
a little more depth or clarityor have a wider.
(16:26):
Like peripheral gaze as to whatis actually important or what
needs to focus.
For me, breath and the way thatwe kind of work with it has been
that to create a space that iswelcoming and inviting for that
type of release and ability togo into the things that are
uncomfortable to help getthrough that whole idea of on
the other side of that type ofemotion is some sort of euphoric
(16:48):
bliss.
Julia (16:49):
Yeah, I would even consider as a daily emotional
hygiene, and use your voice tocommunicate and to teach people.
Cause there's a lot of peoplethat don't use their voice for
anything and how to become morefamiliar with this.
I always invite people in thesessions to sing along with me
to use the voice because we'reall singers.
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We all know how to sing.
It's such a primal thing is oneof the most primal things.
And we have this judgmentwhether it should be pretty
sounds or not pretty sounds,there's no such thing, we all
have a voice and we should allbe able to use it for different
purposes, emotional purposes,communication.
(17:30):
So I think I consider this asemotional hygiene.
And if we could do this on aregular basis, I think our life
would really change on manylevels.
Krista (17:40):
I think the world would change.
And I think it's no accidentthat your throat chakra is your
truth, right?
Julia (17:46):
Absolutely.
Krista (17:46):
It's a way to express your truth instead of hiding
your truth or denying yourtruth.
Yeah, I like the way you saythat though, Julia.
That's It's powerful.
El (17:56):
I always tell clients that, especially whatever I teach
vocal toning, that your voice isthe most intimate experience of
sound that you have.
It, it really is becauseotherwise sound is always coming
from an external source, but tohear it coming from an internal
source and actually resonatingyour body centers, your energy
centers.
Because your head is basically aspeaker.
Nobody else hears your voice andexperiences your voice the way
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that you do.
That's one reason why it's weirdto hear a recording of yourself
because you're missing all thatadditional resonance that
happens in your head that youdon't hear when it's recorded
and played back to you.
So, Encouraging clients toparticipate in that with you can
be super transformational.
Julia (18:36):
absolutely.
Yes.
Krista (18:38):
Yeah.
I had no idea that Sound andtoning and singing and all of
that frequency could impact mein that way.
That sound really took me.
It was wild.
It was wild to allow it to takeme to feel it take me.
(18:59):
I learned a lot about what wecan do with our own bodies using
breath and tone and sound andmovement and all of it.
I think that so much of what wecan do and who we are is
Undiscovered,
El (19:17):
it's a really powerful way to extract emotion using your
voice to latch on to aspects ofenergy or emotion and then
express it and release it andgoing back to this concept of
your voice is the most intimateexperience of sound and
vibration that you'll feelbecause you're creating it
(19:37):
inside of you.
So then To grab on to something,dislodge it using your voice.
Grab onto it, whether it's aconcept or energy, anxiety, can
be super powerful.
Mike (19:50):
Absolutely.
Krista (19:51):
Funny when you say that, I remember.
Immediately that I coach peopleto use tone and sound in
breathwork sessions in groundingsessions so that they can, use
it as a tool is a vehicle torelease energy.
What I think I wasn't aware ofis how someone else's tone and
(20:12):
sound can do that for us to.
But how did I not know that?
I mean, That's what music is andthat's what, singing along to
the radio is that's what, cryingis.
Yeah, it just it, thisexperience opened me up.
To a completely different levelof understanding of it or
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understanding of the power ofit.
I would say how effective it is.
It's far more complex than Igave it credit for.
Gina, I would love for you totell us about your experience
bring us into your world.
Gina (20:50):
I giggle because I know that you and I have been,
sending each other voice memos,both from Our immediate
experience of it and then whathas unfolded post session.
I would say I felt the biggestemotional release that I had in
such a long time.
And I would say the level ofintuition pouring through me.
(21:15):
Just felt crystal clear aboutthe direction I needed to head
in my life, where I need to beliving my relationship with my
son.
It was just so much.
I was like, okay, ding ding.
The next day I went surfing andI swear I was almost like
borderline.
I don't want to use the wordmanic because that kind of puts
a little bit of a negativeconnotation, but I was.
(21:37):
Just like one of my girlfriends,we had a tea after and she was
like, what did you, what didthese people do?
You are just, and I was like,I've got everything sorted and
blah, and I was just like, andshe was sitting there and she's
you really Gina seem so, and I'mlike, yep, and I think I'm going
to be living half the year inMexico and I'm going to spend
(21:57):
the rest in Ojai.
So fast forward to where I amnow.
This is a vulnerable, honest,where I'm like, am I allowed to
swear on this show?
No.
Okay.
No.
Some people actually, it'sreally, it's a thing.
There's Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You
El (22:15):
can totally swear on this show.
Gina (22:17):
Okay.
What the fuck?
That space of that, it was themost euphoric 24 hours that I
think I've had outside of doingsome like medicinal stuff or
drugs in my past.
And now I'm just bumping upagainst Lots of shadow, stuck
(22:42):
material, relational patterns inmy relationship.
I feel like, I don't know if youguys, you probably witnessed me,
I was shaking on such a levelwhen we were doing it, That, and
you probably both could speak tothis more.
For me, it felt like this insanekind of Kundalini rising or
something.
(23:04):
That, yeah, I felt like itblasted my world a little bit.
And and I don't say this withany negative connotation.
I say this with just like thingsthat I've needed to face with my
partner or, who I am as amother.
And even though all those verycrystal clear intuitions came
through, I assumed all of thatwas going to be easy, and I
(23:26):
assumed that I was just like,yeah, I've got the clear
direction, but now I'm likereally facing I'm just facing a
lot is what I want to say.
Krista (23:35):
Yeah, that it opens you up and now you're facing the
obstacles that are in your wayto get to that place became
crystal clear.
It gives you access to all ofit.
But in all of it, there arebarriers and limitations and
beliefs and behaviors.
So it's regulating and movingthrough.
(23:58):
But I think what a gift to seeall of it.
The good and the bad.
What's not allowing you fullaccess.
Full liberation, let's say, doesthat feel true?
Gina (24:10):
It's very true and very well said what you just shared
because I feel like, all thethings that I felt, whether it
was my own podcast and thesecertain things that I was like
yes.
And then, when you go back toyour normal daily life.
And bump up against your woundedparts, your shadow material.
It's these things where it'sokay, Jean, are you really going
(24:32):
to, lovingly hold, but face thisstuff so that you can move
through to these other spacesthat were very clear.
So it was almost like I don'twant to say this.
The experience for me was likeCandyland.
It was just like, yes, and thennow I'm, yeah, in a scary ride.
(24:53):
No that's a dramatic, it'sYou're in a real ride.
I'm on a real ride.
Not scary.
That wasn't the right word, butI'm on a real ride with my life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It reminds me quickly.
I had an experience where wilddolphins sonar my heart and
blasted it open.
And I immediately burst intotears and my heart was so open
(25:15):
and I was in the highest stateof bliss and love I've ever
experienced.
But in opening my heart,everything that I had
suppressed, like all the pain inmy heart came up, like the next
day, I was like, Oh, there'sthis too.
And I've got to deal with this.
It allows you access to, themost magnificent realms that we
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as humans can a cane, there'sthe contrary, right?
There's the pendulum swing tothe other side as well, which is
also magic.
I always say our one job on thisplanet is to feel our feelings
good and bad.
And we live in a culture thatgives us, a gazillion
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opportunities to distractourselves and not feel.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Mike (26:09):
Gravity tends to take effect.
Like even though you can fly upreally high, it's like there's
something that does, there's adensity that comes in that wants
to ground us again, too.
And sometimes that can be apattern that can be like a, some
sort of emotional thing thatwe're going through, or just.
I don't know.
I think it's our ability toconfront it with a new
perspective, or even likeknowing that higher that, that
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peak state is also stillavailable on as we're moving
through these different things.
Krista (26:38):
That's why we move through the deeper things to get
to that place.
I think we lose perspective whenwe're in the heavy or the shadow
of like, this is it.
This is my life.
This is all I've got and forgetthat we're processing to
alleviate so that we can reallyraise our vibration, our
frequency, our existence into amore blissful state.
Mike (26:59):
Absolutely.
It's like the small self thinksand the true self knows.
The things that we think aboutand the things that we ruminate
with and keep us in the mind andnot really truly in our hearts
or truly in our sensing body,where I feel like the gnosis and
the real intuition and thewisdom resides.
I think it's a tug of war, we'reconstantly have to play that
game of who's in control here?
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I think breathwork takes you tothat state that gives you a
little bit more alleviation fromthe heaviness and the knowing
that is really within you thatis like This is true for me and
I feel this now and it's whetherit's going to take you on a
different path or not It's oneof those things that helps Give
a moment of clarity and whetheror not it sticks and takes,
we'll see.
but I hope it absolutely doeskeep unfolding.
Gina (27:43):
I hope I'm still moving to Mexico.
Yeah.
To your point, Mike, I thinkthat my small self started to go
into this space of questioning,like questioning were those
really like real intuition?
Was that just this false,totally, otherworldly.
And then I was like, wait asecond what, and I had to really
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check myself and that small selfcreating that story of maybe
those weren't really real thingsand you were creating some story
of this, like magnificent, youknow, but I've watched a lot of
my clients who go deep intoceremony, and have really
intense euphoric, you know, aredancing in other realms and
other dimensions and then haveto come back and have to
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integrate and ground and, reallyfind where does the information
apply in this.
In this physical realm and inthis experience in our life and,
I was shocked that the breathwork and, Julia's voice really
took me there was, yeah.
Krista (28:46):
So, powerful.
I was with you in the sessionand had my own experience of it
felt like there was angelicpresence, and I don't go to
angels that's not my go to.
So to say that for me is.
and It was the most loving andbenevolent mother.
(29:09):
Angel energy came in and held meand allowed me to, I'm going to
cry, allowed me to, huh,interesting um, allowed me to be
healed in a way that I obviouslyreally needed, but it was so
unexpected.
It was such a journey.
It was like a plant medicinejourney.
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It took me all these places.
And then sometimes when you weretoning, I was like, I couldn't,
it was so confronting and youwere singing, right?
That's so incredible to me thatyou have that ability through
your voice, through your body,and I consider what you were
doing and we had a conversationabout it that we should open up
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now, but that you werechanneling something.
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I don't know what this song isabout, but please do it.
Mike (33:17):
Starting to bring your awareness back into the room
back into this moment, knowingthat whatever came through today
was exactly right for thismoment, for this day, no more,
no less, just allowing it to bewithout judgment, without it
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having to be a certain way, butjust accepting and allowing
Trusting that everything rightnow is in its perfect place, in
its perfect order.
Bringing yourself back, and whenyou're ready, without rushing,
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coming up to a seated position.
At your own pace, slowly andgently.
Krista (34:10):
Hi.
Hi.
Welcome back.
Wow.
How
Julia (34:17):
was it?
Gina (34:20):
I've done some breath work before, but nothing quite like
that.
That was Yeah.
That was incredible.
Thank you guys.
I felt an immense amount ofgratitude and to you, Krista,
for having me join.
So incredible.
Wow.
Yeah.
Julia (34:42):
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you for being up for this.
That's great.
So special.
Gina (34:47):
I don't know about Krista, but I feel like it hit all the
points.
Like I felt like when I was likereally like in the arc, as you
were describing, it was.
Yeah.
The music was beautiful.
Krista (34:59):
Yeah.
Gina (34:59):
I feel
Krista (35:07):
like If I start talking, I'm going to cry.
Yeah.
Um, Julia, I mean, you're nothuman.
Yes.
There were moments.
I don't love, I don't know if Ican put into words, but I was
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held with such a like purefeminine motherly healing Yeah.
I, I, I, I, I can't, I don'tknow if words can express, but
it was incredible.
And thank you.
Julia (35:44):
Thank you.
I felt really, you were veryreceptive.
Yeah.
I felt it really thereceptivity.
That's why there was receivers,resp, reciprocated, yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
Yeah.
Krista (35:57):
Would love to understand your experience as the
practitioner.
What are you feeling?
What are you looking for?
What are you honing in on interms of how you're holding
space for the client?
Because I had my own wildexperience.
Gina had her own wild experiencewas very separate.
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So how do you navigate that forboth of you as practitioners?
Julia (36:22):
I think we've, we start by creating a, an atmosphere,
making everybody comfortablethrough breath.
We stabilize everybody.
And then for me, he provides therhythm.
Rhythmic pattern that gets me ona trance.
I start getting a certain typeof euphoria which is good, but
(36:47):
again, you see this, we playwith this duality and I start
really sensing you.
He really keeps me groundingbecause I think he's more earth
element and more air.
So I need that type ofgroundness that it's safe
because I have this tendency ofgoing very much with the energy
of the room and there has to bea sort of a Space, you know a
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safe space between I'm here andThere so because I need to
really being charged in controlof the situation
Krista (37:17):
Exactly.
And you're taking the roomsomewhere, so you can't be too
of the room.
Correct.
Yeah.
Julia (37:23):
So breath provides the stability and sound allows you
and enables you to take you intothis insinuating space.
Sound frequency that enables usto, whether you're in a state
where maybe I feel we need to godeeper there and then back and
also playing because everybody,as you say, is experiencing
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different journeys, differentemotional journeys.
Yeah.
Dancing.
But even if everybody'sexperiencing, I always sense
this, even if everybody's goingthrough their own journey,
there's always a general energywithin the room.
Yeah.
It's like a synchronicitybetween everybody.
Krista (38:01):
What does that feel like?
How would you describe that?
Is it like a kind of a pitch ora level.
Mike (38:07):
It's like a temperature change.
Yes.
If we're like in water, it feelslike when you're swimming in the
ocean, it's oh, that's warm allof a sudden.
Like what?
It feels almost like that.
It's very interesting.
Krista (38:17):
That's a beautiful way to describe it.
Julia (38:19):
Sometimes we go with everybody.
We need to release we do a lotof release cleanse keeping
focused with our breath as well.
That the breath really keeps ussane and, staying there.
And then the sound is what isdriving us where we want to go.
And if maybe we need to switchbetween one, one energy to
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another.
That's where sound takes us alsowith with percussion, with
different rhythmic patterns anddifferent instruments.
If we need to alleviate, if weneed some sort of water and
refreshment, you use otherinstruments to, to change the
the color the color of the roomthe temperature of the energy.
And I also, there's really,there's an intuition.
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How much you can push and whenyou should hold back and push
back and say, Okay, that'senough.
It's about being gentle and notso gentle sometimes, and the
duality and the beauty ofsadness and trauma as well.
There's a, people with theirmovement, like Gina, we saw you,
you were so beautiful.
Your body was a wave.
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Your breath, your body was sosynchronized that allowed me
that inspired me as well.
So I'm not just on a healingpoint of view, but on a musical
point of view.
So there's a symphony occurring,not just on a healing point of
view, but on the musical pointof view.
That inspires me to go somewherewhere, I don't know, where I
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stop using this and somethingchannels in the room and
something is guiding us, all ofus.
So it's not just us, it's all ofus, guiding this.
Mike (40:01):
It isn't interesting because we have a structure for
sure.
There is this journey in the arcand there's like points that we
know we're going to hit, butit's very like jazz.
It's always different.
We're always going to be playingit slightly unique to whatever
the room is asking for, it'swildly different every time.
Julia (40:16):
We learned so much from each session.
Krista (40:21):
I'm sure.
How do you prepare for eachsession to allow yourself to be
open and fluid, but also tocreate a protection for your
energy?
How do you prepare?
How do you step into eachsession?
Mike (40:36):
We do a lot of grounding techniques time in nature
meditating.
Usually in the space, I wouldopen up the directions and Colin
support and we ask all theancestors from different
lineages different parts thatwe've all.
Inherited it's welcoming them into help heal and alleviate any
pains or traumas that maybe wehave on from them.
And what can we learn and whatcan we gain?
(40:56):
And how can we like walk in agood way with this information?
So for me, like connecting tothose forces and elements really
helped me ground.
As much as I can be an anchorfor the group, that's really
what I do to really focus myenergy.
But it's a little different foryou.
You have a little more warmingyour tones.
Yes.
Julia (41:14):
I vocally warm up, obviously from a vocal point of
view, there's warming up.
I try to also do breathingexercises to really warm up all
the core, because sometimes it'svery intense vocal sessions of
one hour, almost nonstop.
I need to take breaks where hereally helps me grounding again
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through breath because thetendency with me is to really go
and take off and I really needthis grounding moments to, go
back and reset, so I can be inbetter, better service for
everybody.
Krista (41:53):
Beautiful.
And you have us at the beginningof the session, we did some
manual massage around ourdiaphragm, and then you had us
warm up our voices as well.
And I'd never experienced thatin a breathwork session before.
Julia (42:08):
This is a little warm up to activate our diaphragm, we're
going to start massaging themuscles behind the rib cage,
feeling them, unlocking any sortof tension we have there.
Mike (42:21):
If you follow the sternum right under the breastbone and
you go under the ribs betweenthe ribs and the abdomen, you
can get into those tight spots,give yourself a little massage.
As you exhale, you'll be able tocreate a little more space.
You feel how that expands.
Sidewise.
Focusing on belly breathing deepdown into the lower diaphragm,
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creating more space in the spineand the side body.
Julia (42:48):
Now we're going to activate our vocal, head
resonance through differentexercises.
The first one will be through ahum.
We start with four takes in,they're gonna be like short,
quick inhales.
And then we're gonna pause andthen we're gonna do the
hum.
Which is hum.
So we hear this buzzing kind ofsound.
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That helps us, being familiarwith the head resonance.
So we'll exhale all the way out.
Mike (43:14):
Inhale for five, one,
Julia (43:19):
hold it.
Mike (43:22):
Mm.
Pause.
Inhale for 5 1 2.
Julia (43:44):
Now with the mouth open, we're going to hum as well,
making an NG sound like, We'regoing to use
the root of the tongue againstthe soft palate.
Inhale again for five.
1, 2, 3, 4.
Five.
Hold.
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We're gonna do it again The nextexercise, we're going to try to
release through a, I call itupwards and downwards siren.
So we're going to try to get theresonance of the voice, the high
resonance in the third eyethrough a nym nym.
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Very tiny sound.
So we take a breath.
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Near, near, near, near, near,near, near, near.
Mike (45:02):
This should open up some of the pineal gland.
Some of the third eye shouldactivate, feel the vibration.
Just starting really small verysmall in order to really get the
vibration and the placement ofthe the third eye, this is where
exactly the resonance point ofthe sound starts.
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So it's like a threading, like aneedle thread, and then it
expands.
That's how you get to hit theright resonance for any sound
that you're going to makewhenever we use our voice.
Julia (45:33):
Mostly just to warm the body up, get yourself
acclimated, calm the nervoussystem also.
It's a little bit activating butit also gives you an
understanding of how thedifferent breath and the sounds
can maybe open different thingsand unlock parts of you.
And so throughout the wholebreath work, there is an
opportunity and invitation tojust explore that.
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Let this be a playground.
And see if certain forms oftoning or sounds can allow
something new to appear or torelease.
Because each one of theseparticular sounds and shapes
that we're making with themouth, access different parts of
the chakra systems and thefrequency allows for more space
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to heal.
I think it's very important on avocal point of view, if you're
going to use your voicethroughout the session to be
more open to it to have thethroat chakra more open.
And as I always say, I inviteeverybody to join me through
singing and I've experiencedthat the people that join me,
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they use my voice to link to myvoice.
Their voice with mine, Someclients have told me, I felt
your voice in my voice, and thethings that I couldn't express,
I could express through you aswell.
I really invite people to alwaysuse the voice in the sessions.
I think it's crucial causebreath takes you on a very
subconscious level very, verydeep.
(46:58):
But if you combine that withsound It takes you to even a
deeper level.
Krista (47:03):
It's as if you're allowing us to piggyback or tack
on to you as you take us higher.
Yes, exactly.
Julia (47:10):
I want everybody to use my voice in order to Lift off
with their own voice.
As I even make more invitingsounds, not so pretty, I'm going
to make nasty sounds.
So everybody joins me, see, Idon't need to sing pretty as
when we say sing, I don't know,I should call it another name.
So everybody would feel morewelcome and be invited to join
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with their vocal cords.
Krista (47:33):
I think we live in a state of performance, right?
We want to be accepted.
We are people pleasers to somedegree.
And I think we all live.
In some facet of performativelife.
So if I'm going to sing or makenoise in the world or open
myself up into the world, it'sgot to be acceptable.
(47:54):
So doing the contrary and then,Seeing that, I'm safe and that's
okay.
It's just expression.
I think that's so important,especially for women too.
To be
Julia (48:05):
absolutely.
Yes.
Krista (48:06):
Small or coquettish or demure or pretty is such a big
thing.
Julia (48:12):
So getting rid of any form of.
Mental judgment that we have isa daily hygiene, for, or your
spiritual well being.
Krista (48:22):
I'd also extend that into that we all connect to
source and spirit through achannel.
We all have that wiring in us.
People are more aware of it andpractice it on a bigger level
than others, but same kind ofthing where other people have no
awareness of it or don't thinkthey can do it
Mike (48:42):
on top of that, the different resonance points and
where the vibration is reallymost impactful with certain of
the exercises that we shared.
And that kind of builds on whatElle was saying how.
We don't often hear our ownvoices and we're in these kind
of chambers and music andvibration.
I love the saying architectureis frozen music and it's like
some of these vibrations andtones and frequencies help
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unlock parts and bring music orsome sort of orchestration for
the body to give movement andfluidity to these parts that are
usually locked up and we onlyjust have our one tone or we're
just singing one note, but thishelps open up the whole
cathedral in a lot of ways.
Krista (49:22):
Beautiful.
Gina, what do you think?
Gina (49:25):
I was actually just thinking about my girlfriend,
Katie, who's very active, had astroke within the last six
months.
And it was shocking to us andher obviously the most.
So she recently wrote an articleon how she.
Re established a relationshipwith herself because she didn't
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really know who she was afterthe stroke so I, I said to her
what were your top three things?
And she said, number one wassinging and this was a couple of
days after our session, shesaid, singing, looking at
pictures of when I was a child.
And there was something else,but it all for me to what you
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were saying, Krista was likeopening up her channel and her
connection to source.
It was so beautiful, but yes, soto all of this, I think that
singing is incredibly impactful.
Krista (50:18):
what do you think the scope of breathwork is?
What can it do for someone orwhy would someone practice it?
Mike (50:27):
Not everybody's a good fit for a lot of these things.
It can be really unsettling ordisruptive.
Typically there is an intakeform and we do make sure that
people are in a good state toactually participate in these
things.
If someone is like on the edgeor having a hard time coping
This can amplify a lot of thosethings.
If there is a certain trauma orsomething that hasn't been fully
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processed, it can put somebodyinto a retraumatized state that
breath can actually trigger andthey can relive those moments.
Krista (50:57):
Does that have to do with the central nervous system?
Is it disregulating them in away that then circulates a
pattern of thinking that'soverwhelming.
Mike (51:05):
Yeah, I think hyperventilating and what that
does to the body and the mind.
So what, when we do ourpractice, it's all through nasal
breathing.
We try to activate theparasympathetic nervous system
that gets people more into astate, and they can be more in a
calm state to process thesethings.
It's usually not as activatingif you're taking mouth inhales,
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which is during this the likefight or flight and getting
people in a more aroused state.
This is more of a subtle, aslow, gradual climb with the
nasal breathing.
But it, choose your ownadventure.
There's nothing wrong with doingthe mouth breathing and going
more of a activating breath.
But the nasal breathing helpswith that to help bring that
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kind of calm uplift.
With anybody with any type ofreally hard to cope with trauma
that they're trying to process,it has to be under really, Close
care or something in person andbreath work, I wouldn't say is
the first place to start forsure.
So it's like being able to sitwith yourself, sit in
contemplation and confront someof the hardest parts of
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ourselves is really importantbefore going into a session that
might just throw everything inyour face and be very unsettling
for somebody.
But yeah, physically there areother contraindications, whether
it's like kidney disease oranybody that's had detached
retina or blood pressure, orcardiovascular disease or
anything like that, there arethings that it can be unhelpful
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for, but there are things thatyou can do that aren't what we
practice that are still steps inthe right direction or towards
that, that just aren't as.
intense, I would say.
Krista (52:46):
Gina, as a therapist, what are your thoughts?
in terms of breathwork.
I'm thinking breathwork would bein the same vein as plant
medicine.
Anything that takes you to analtered state can be incredibly
dysregulating because you arejourneying into parts unknown,
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parts in yourself.
So Love to hear your thoughts onthe mental component to this.
Gina (53:17):
I feel like Mike articulated it really well, I
look at talk therapy as acontainer, and it's a limited
container so we go to deeperthings like the plant medicine
or the breath work.
To really access these spaces ofdeep trauma.
Not that we can't access that innormal talk therapy, but that's
also why I do things like EMDRand things that really access
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the body and the subconsciousmind.
I don't really like to stick todiagnoses or the DSM but maybe
somebody with tendencies thatmight shoot somebody into a
manic episode yeah, that wouldbe my gut would be just to use
with caution.
Krista (53:58):
It goes back to an earlier thought of there's.
the experience of being in theintellect, and that's what a lot
of talk therapy addresses,intellectualizing and
understanding our traumas.
But then this brings us intoalmost the home of the trauma.
I believe our trauma lives inour body and our feelings.
And so it's taking us into adifferent, space I think the,
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Intellect gives us the illusionof control.
And in journeying into thesespaces, we are actively
releasing our Intellectualconception of control and
surrendering.
We're surrendering into partsunknown.
And I think that can beincredibly dysregulating if
someone doesn't feel like theyhave, solid ground or never
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established solid ground.
Mike (54:47):
But it reminds me of, I think it's MDAs for somebody.
It's if you try to bring who youthink you are into infinite
consciousness, you're not gonnahave a good time It's.
That surrender, it is, it's likea full let go, a full send, that
can be the heart of it.
Krista (55:02):
And that's incredibly scary.
Gina (55:04):
Yeah,
Krista (55:05):
This work certainly had a big impact on Gina and I it
opened up things that I now haveaccess to that I'm so grateful
for.
I think anytime we can pull backthe curtain or change the lens,
have you seen anything thatyou'd like to share with your
work in terms of the impact it'shad on your clients?
Mike (55:26):
Yeah.
We've worked with a good rangeof people.
Some people that were likeconfronting cancer diagnosis and
really like deep grief and lossand
Julia (55:35):
grief and a lot of trauma really locked in their body.
Some people really.
Somatized to a level that,causes all these physical
illnesses to people that feeltrapped, feel they're not able
to communicate to express thingsand they feel so subdued in a
way and breath and voice reallyhelps them on a subconscious
(55:58):
level to really speak theirtruth.
For artists that feel stack thisis a great exercise to really
reset on an artistic level.
Krista (56:07):
Yeah, any kind of artistic block to transcend and
reconnect.
That's beautiful.
Tell us what clients actuallycome to you for, in addition to
what you just mentioned.
Why would clients seek you out?
Mike (56:21):
Yeah, I think it's a combination of curiosity to
explore themselves deeper Ithink what we do is we provide
the space and we play a certainpart, but it's really for people
to go in and become their ownhealer and really work through
and come to their own innerknowings and sense making and
self creation.
We really do promote and try tohelp attract and be on that
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frequency of we're not here toheal anybody.
We're here to create a space foryou to explore and experiment
with.
Parts of yourself that may bedormant or be hindered by some
sense of who you think youshould be.
Julia (56:54):
Go back to their inner child, the playfulness of things
where their true identity reallyemanates.
And that we lose, as we grow andwe experience different
circumstances and events andtraumas and life itself.
But there's a personality thatwe form.
And then there's our inner coreidentity that is to most of us.
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I speak for myself as well,dormant on many levels, because
we think that's not allowed andaccepted because we've got this
sense of judgment.
And to provide this safe spacewhere you have the freedom to
express on any level, on anemotional level, on an identity
level as well, where we don'tjudge if that's accepted or not
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accepted by society.
Krista (57:40):
That just made me so happy to think of it in that
context.
That's so beautiful.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Gina, I'd love to include you inthis because I consider you a
healer, If you could tell us allwhy you do the work you do what
does it mean to you?
What does it give to you?
Gina (57:57):
I think, if I'm to say this in the most succinct way
possible, getting people back totheir inner essence.
I'm going to sound maybe rom dosy in just like bringing people
back home.
I think that's why I do what Ido.
And if I'm to go a little bitdeeper into it, losing a mother
to cancer at 17 and then reallynot understanding because there
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wasn't much language for griefin Western culture.
And, as a teenager notunderstanding God, my emotions
are so big.
And.
Navigating that territory foryears yeah, just helping people
walk through their pain, becauseas humans, we're going to
experience in this incarnationsuffering and pain and we try to
(58:42):
avoid it at such deep levels,but yeah There is a part of me
that I just really love thejourney of just being with
people in all moments and allspaces of their life and yeah,
that's why I do what I do, Weneed to heal, the level of
conflict, the level ofaggression, and this tribal
family system of where we'rejust not healed,
Krista (59:04):
Funny you say that.
After this session, I said toall of you, what came through
for me is that I've beenfighting so much all my life.
And I so got the message of, Idon't have to fight anymore, but
it didn't occur to me.
I was in such a routine or adiscipline even of everything's
a fight.
(59:25):
And I got this big wave of God,what if I don't fight?
What if I don't have to fight?
What if the fighting is over?
But, you look at the landscapeof our world and It's a fight
everywhere, in every way, we'reall fighting, mike and Julia,
whoever would like to go firstin terms of what this work means
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to you, why do you do it, whatdoes it give it to you?
Julia (59:53):
To me, it's not a work, it's my identity it's my
passion, it's my way ofexpression.
And it's something that I alwaysknew what I wanted to do.
I remember before I was evenable to speak, I would hear
music and I would hear voiceslike singers.
And I knew I could do that.
I knew I could sing.
(01:00:13):
I knew I could use my voice toexpress.
So it was a very innate instinctfor me.
And I think if I could use thistool to help other people and to
connect, which there's so much,I feel there's so much
disconnection between us in theworld.
I don't think there's any otherway for me.
This is my little grain of sand,you know, towards not little,
(01:00:37):
but
Krista (01:00:38):
okay.
Beautifully done.
Thank you.
Mike (01:00:44):
Uh, the question, what does this work mean to us?
And what does it do for us?
Krista (01:00:49):
Why do you do this work?
Um, what does it give to you?
What does it mean to you?
Mike (01:00:54):
Yeah, I do this work just to continue exploring.
One of our mutual friends callshimself an experienced beginner
treating everything is he's juststarting out.
And I love that.
And I think that's super humble.
And I come to everything, everypart of this work or anything
that I approach I'm here tolearn and I want to help other
people and that feels good toselfishly, it feels good for me
(01:01:17):
to help people.
I'm here for that.
And I really love just, it ismusic.
It doesn't feel like work.
It's definitely play andproviding a space for people to
open up and explore their ownparts really is fulfilling, so
it's a selfish endeavor.
Krista (01:01:35):
Having not much knowledge of what the session
was going to be or what yourwork is, I now want to do it all
over again.
Now that I have experience of itand know more about it, I want
to dig in deeper.
Julia (01:01:48):
Yes, that would be even a much more powerful experience.
Krista (01:01:53):
Yeah.
So expect that phone call.
As practitioners, as humans, asbeautiful beings, what are your
self care practices or yourspiritual practices?
how do you balance your energyand what kinds of things knock
you out of alignment?
Gina (01:02:10):
For me, surfing is number one.
But it's an interesting thingbecause I have to watch.
I'm a bit of an addict with it.
I think there's worse thingsthat I could be addicted to than
being in the ocean.
But for me, It's been a practiceever since I went to grad
school, just getting into theocean.
And I imagine, client's energy,anything that I've maybe picked
(01:02:31):
up, I just imagine it drippingout.
But yeah, the ocean for me isnumber one.
The other big ones, obviouslymeditation.
I chant, chanting is a reallybig one for me.
What knocks me off?
I would say in years prior, evena few glasses of wine, and I've
gotten to a space at 42 yearsold now that I'm like, alcohol
(01:02:54):
is not.
So I would say that wassomething in the past that I
could really feel like, Oh no, Ican just have a glass of wine.
And it really, would knock meoff.
And so I think another part ofmy self care is really honoring
how sensitive I am.
And I think any of us who dothis work, we're sensitive for a
reason.
Yeah, I can be a little bit typeA about how I'm taking care of
(01:03:16):
my energy field and just mybody.
But that's what works.
And when I fall off of that it'shard to show up for clients.
So not sleeping for a year withmy baby was, that'll be the last
thing I say that threw me offbig time.
Just, really.
Yeah.
So I had to find other ways toground in that space.
(01:03:38):
Cause you're like in analternate state.
Yeah.
So those are my things.
Krista (01:03:43):
Beautiful.
Julia (01:03:45):
We were discussing this, because we do tarot reading as
well.
And we were talking about theethic and the the commitment
towards clients, whether you'regoing to give a reading to feel
committed to come from a neutralplace where you're balanced on
an emotional level.
So you can have the presence tochannel what comes because, if
(01:04:06):
you're not in a healthy state ona spiritual level, on a mental
level, on an emotional level,you're not going to be able to
provide, whether if it's aacoustic breath session, tire
breathing psychotherapy, anyform of healing practice.
I think there is a commitmentand an ethical code that you
should have to take care ofyourself in order for you to be
(01:04:27):
able to provide the best serviceyou can possibly provide.
Absolutely.
Mike (01:04:33):
What is that for you?
Julia (01:04:35):
Meditation, grounding.
I need a lot of grounding.
Emotions, sometimes can lift us.
I need a lot of grounding,routine it's very crucial for
me.
Even if I'm here or there ortraveling, I need some form of
even silly routine.
I like to write things I'mgrateful for on a daily basis.
(01:04:56):
And people I send my love to andmore things I.
wish, to the universe.
And they're just littlepractices, that set me on a good
vibrational state.
And that, that helps setting thecolor of the day, especially in
the morning.
Beautiful.
Krista (01:05:14):
Yeah.
I love a routine.
I've always loved a routine andI can feel so it's a grounding
technique for me.
Mike, anything you'd like toshare.
Mike (01:05:29):
Similar to Gina, I just love nature, being near the
ocean, surfing.
That helps me ground breathwork, obviously.
Movement, very important for me.
I just need to stay physicallyactive.
Routines with that is reallyimportant.
And doing art, my form ofmindful meditation is just doing
my painting and things likethat.
Things that knock me off balanceare definitely Julia's emotions.
(01:05:53):
Yeah.
Krista (01:05:58):
Good work, Julia.
Julia (01:06:01):
I left him off.
Yes.
Krista (01:06:02):
Yeah.
Gina, have you seen Mike'sartwork?
No.
Oh, my God.
No.
Take a look.
It transcends or transforms you.
You'll have a visceralexperience just looking at it.
You'll really love it.
Surfer to surfer.
I think you guys will have thatconnection.
(01:06:23):
Yeah.
this has been so beautiful.
I'm just so grateful to all ofyou, such incredible individuals
and seekers and healers andadventurers.
Is there anything else thatanyone would like to share?
Mike (01:06:42):
We're studying an online course so people can go through
these.
Different exercises andpractices to help open up their
voice and explore everything.
Yeah, that'll be, that's comingsoon.
It'll be, by the time this isout, it'll be ready.
So yeah, excited to share thatand make it, more available to
(01:07:03):
people.
But yeah, we're also we're justequally as grateful for all of
you and to make this possible.
Absolutely.
For the work that you're doing,we're just shining that light
back at you.
Thank you.
Julia (01:07:15):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Krista (01:07:18):
And then where can people find you?
Mike (01:07:21):
Animaventus.
com is our website.
Krista (01:07:25):
And that'll be on our website and Gina I mentioned at
the top of the show yourpodcast, but tell us a little
bit about where we can find youand what you're working on.
Gina (01:07:34):
You can find me at Gina minority.
com.
Or people can find me on spacesbetween social media.
Krista (01:07:42):
All right guys.
Thank you.
Thank you Thank you.
Thank you so much.
This thank you.
An honor and a pleasure.
Yeah.
Thank you guys.
Gina (01:07:51):
Very inspiring.
Yeah.
Hope to see you all in theflesh.
Krista (01:07:56):
Yes.
Soon.
Yeah, soon.
Yeah.
Love you.
Love you.
Love you.
Okay,
Love,
love.
Bye bye.
Thank you.
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