THE INTUITIVE HEALING EPISODE

In this episode we will be exploring Intuitive Healing which is a powerful way to shift your energetic and physical body into a higher state of healing and frequency..

Colleen Meisel is a licensed practitioner of Chinese medicine specializing in the treatment of emotional imbalances, using a combination of acupuncture, herbs and intuitive communication to create a space for the healing and well being of an individual’s highest good.

Colleen received her Masters in Traditional Chinese Medicine from Emperor’s College in Santa Monica, and then went on to study different aspects of energy work at True Insight, including meditation, clairvoyance, and hands on healing. She continues her spiritual and academic education through various programs and workshops all over the country.

Our willing participant is Quiana, a corporate executive who is energized by art, design, music, and culture. She has always felt a strong alignment to Spirit and has always relied on that alignment to navigate through life. It has motivated her to open up to and explore traditional and non-traditional spiritual methods and paths, with the goals of experiencing multi-layered awareness and healing, reconnecting to her authentic self, committing to her heart's desires, and surrendering to be guided by Spirit to and through her divine journey.

Episode Transcript

Colleen (00:05):
I think it's also important to remember that this
is life's work, right?
It's really the path, it's alifestyle in a way.
You're never going to stoplearning.
You're never going to stopdiscovering if you embrace this
path.
Anytime you start to feel thatit gets to be work or effort I
think it's helpful to just takea moment and see what are you

(00:26):
resisting?
Why does it have to be work?
Why can't it just be self love,I have seen when, you take that
effort piece out, when yousurrender to it, it doesn't mean
that you are allowing it toovertake, you're allowing it to
move.
Just being in that flow andbeing in that movement, it helps
the lifestyle helps the pathbecause every day, every moment,

(00:48):
it becomes an opportunity forgrowth.
Whatever that is for theindividual.

Krista (00:53):
Welcome to the Beginner's Guide to the Third
Eye, the podcast that delvesinto the profound realms of
spiritual experiences, exploringthe dedicated practitioners and
various modalities that guide uson our transformative path.
Together, we will explore themystical, the magical, the
enlightened, and the sacred.

(01:14):
In each episode, we pairseasoned practitioners,
spiritual experiences, orhealing modalities, and a
willing participant to sharetheir experience in working
together.
We will explore the uniqueinsights, stories, and wisdom
gained from their own profoundjourneys, unveiling the
extraordinary narratives thatshape spiritual seekers and

(01:35):
practitioners alike.
My name is Krista Rauschenbergand my work as a healer has
emerged from hundreds of hoursof certified training, spiritual
initiations, direct experience,and deep personal work.
I have been employed in thehealing arts as a postpartum
doula, an advanced Akashicreader, an Akashic breathwork
practitioner, and a writer.

(01:57):
Facilitating and educatingpeople through their personal,
spiritual, and healing journeysis my greatest source of
happiness.

El (02:04):
And I'm Elle Larson.
I use sound and space to helpbalance internal and external
environments.
I've practiced holistic healingmodalities for over 20 years,
and my work includes Tibetanbull sound healing, feng shui,
reiki, and shamanism.

Krista (02:17):
Welcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the
Third Eye where we demystify themystical.
On today's show, we'll beexploring intuitive healing,
which is a powerful way to shiftyour energetic and physical body
into a higher state of healingand frequency.
Intuitive energy healing is analternative healing approach
that combines intuitiveabilities with the concept of

(02:40):
energy healing.
It is rooted in the belief thatthere is a subtle energy that
flows through and around thebody.
And disturbances or imbalancesin this energy can lead to
physical, emotional, orspiritual issues.
Practitioners of intuitivehealing often rely on their
intuitive abilities to perceiveand interpret energy.

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This may involve sensing energyblockages, imbalances, or
disturbances in the client'senergy field.
Intuitive healing typicallytakes a holistic approach,
considering theinterconnectedness of the
physical, mental, emotional, andspiritual aspects of an
individual.
Practitioners aim to address theroot causes of issues rather

(03:24):
than just alleviating symptomsand the process is often client
centered, meaning the healerworks in collaboration with the
client to identify and addresstheir specific needs and
concerns.
The intuitive insights of thehealer guide the session,
allowing for a personalized andtailored approach.
Let's welcome our guests forthis episode of intuitive

(03:46):
healing.
We are lucky enough to haveColleen Mizell, who is
incredibly gifted in this field.
Colleen is a licensedpractitioner of Chinese
medicine, specializing in thetreatment of emotional
imbalances using a combinationof acupuncture, herbs, and
intuitive communication tocreate a space for, the healing
and well being an individual'shighest good.

(04:09):
She has been practicing for over20 years and received her
masters in traditional Chinesemedicine from Emperor's College
in Santa Monica, California.
She then went on to studydifferent aspects of energy
work, including meditation,clairvoyance, and hands on
healing.
Colleen continues her spiritualand academic education through
various programs and workshopsall over the world.

(04:31):
And our willing participant isQuiana, who has generously
offered to share her experiencein working with Colleen.
Quiana is a corporate executivewho is energized by art, design,
music, and culture.
She has always felt a strongalignment to spirit and has
relied on that alignment tonavigate through life.
Welcome to you both.

(04:51):
Elle and I are so happy to haveyou.
A big part of why we createdthis podcast was to showcase
energy workers and demystifywhat they do.
So Colleen, I'd love to startwith you and get a bit of your
background.
Tell me what was your firstexperience with the metaphysical
world?
How did this work come to you?
And how has your life unfoldedto get you where you are today?

(05:13):
On today's show, we'll beexploring intuitive healing,
which is a powerful way to shiftyour energetic and physical body
into a higher state of healingand frequency.
Intuitive energy healing is analternative healing approach
that combines intuitiveabilities with the concept of
energy healing.
It is rooted in the belief thatthere is a subtle energy that

(05:34):
flows through and around thebody, and disturbances or
imbalances in this energy canlead to physical, emotional, or
spiritual issues.
Practitioners of intuitivehealing often rely on their
intuitive abilities to perceiveand interpret energy.
This may involve sensing energyblockages, imbalances, or

(05:55):
disturbances in the client'senergy field.
Intuitive healing typicallytakes a holistic approach
considering theinterconnectedness of the
physical, mental, emotional, andspiritual aspects of an
individual.
Practitioners, aim to addressthe root causes of issues rather
than just alleviating symptomsand the process is often

(06:17):
client-centered, meaning thehealer works in collaboration
with the client to identify andaddress their specific needs and
concerns.
The intuitive insights of thehealer guide the session, and
tailored approach.
Let's welcome our guests forthis episode of intuitive
healing We are lucky enough tohave Colleen Mizell, who is

(06:40):
incredibly gifted in this field.
Colleen is a licensedpractitioner of Chinese medicine
specializing in the treatment ofemotional imbalances, using a
combination of acupuncture,herbs, and intuitive
communication to create a spacefor healing and well being of an
individual's highest good.
She has been practicing for over20 years.

(07:01):
received her master's intraditional Chinese medicine
from Emperor's College in SantaMonica, California, and then
went on to study differentaspects of energy work,
including meditation,clairvoyance, and hands on
healing.
She continues her spiritual andacademic education through
various programs and workshopsall over the world.

(07:21):
And our willing participant isQuiana, who is generously
offered to share her experiencein working with Colleen.
Quiana is a corporate executivewho is energized by art, design,
music, and culture.
She has always felt a strongalignment to spirit and has
relied on that alignment tonavigate her work.
Through life.
Welcome to you both.

(07:41):
Ellen.
I are so happy to have you.
A big part of why we createdthis podcast was to showcase
energy workers and demystifywhat they do.
So Colleen, I'd love to startwith you and get a bit of your
background.
Tell me, what was your firstexperience with the metaphysical
world?
How did you come to do the workthat you do?
And then how has your lifeunfolded to get you where you

(08:02):
are today?

Colleen (08:03):
Well, I'm happy to be here and happy to help demystify
energy work because I think itis definitely within everybody's
grasp.
We're all innately born with,these muscles and it's just
whether or not we've had theopportunity to work them.
I was trying to think about thisquestion earlier, and there were
experiences that I had as achild that I think were probably

(08:29):
more energetic or more sensitiveor intuitive.
I don't think that I really sawit that way.
And I don't think people aroundme necessarily saw it that way.
It wasn't until I had sometraining and was able to put the
pieces together.
In undergrad, I studiedanthropology, and most of the
anthropology that I was drawn towere more of like the

(08:52):
shamanistic types of practices,so that person within a culture
that was in charge of thespiritual well being of a group
or a community that wasfascinating to me.
I then went into studyingChinese medicine and realized
that the basis or the roots ofthat kind of medicine was in

(09:13):
shamanism.
So that opened that paradigmback up for me that I felt very
comfortable in and it madesense.
It just absolutely totally 100percent resonated with me.
So once I got my master's inChinese medicine and I started
practicing, I started to reallyrealize that I did better if I

(09:33):
was not using the textbookprotocols for certain things
that when I brought in a levelof just going with my intuition
that the treatments were a lotstronger and my Patients would
comment on that as well.
So I started to study meditationand energy work formally through

(09:54):
a school and program doingcoursework and then some
workshops and that was probably10 years And at some point
during that 10 years, I broughtthe two together.
So I brought the Chinesemedicine, the acupuncture, that
whole world, and this idea oflooking at energy and reading
energy and using the intuitionand more the clairvoyance to

(10:17):
bring those two together for thewellbeing and the growth and
evolvement of people.

Krista (10:23):
Amazing.
Tell me, going back just a bit,tell me what those experiences
were in your childhood that youlooked back on and thought, Oh,
that was something otherworldlyor energetic.

Colleen (10:34):
Yeah.
I used to write a lot as a kidand a lot of the things that I
would write about were thingsthat were paranormal or time
travel a things that were outthere.
And I think what that was.
me trying to verbalize orexpress my connection to, maybe

(10:56):
what we would call past lives orlinear lives.
But I was definitely feelinglike I was in touch with other.
Parts of me, other higher partsof me, or other maybe like
dimensional type of thing.
I do remember that when mygrandfather passed away I think
I was in third grade, I wouldsee him I would get visits from

(11:16):
him, and I thought, These aredifferent than dreams.
My dream space as a kid wasreally vibrant, and I think that
I was getting a lot ofinformation through the astral.
Those are some of my earlierchildhood memories I'd get
feelings too when I'd walk intoa room or into a place where it
was Beyond what I was physicallyseeing.

Krista (11:38):
Was there anything about having those experiences or that
level of sensitivity that madeit difficult for you in
childhood?
Did you feel supported?
Were you able to speak of it toyour family?

Colleen (11:52):
Yeah, I think I was able to speak to it freely as a
kid, although I don't think thatI really knew what I was
speaking to.
But I was excited by it.
I was fascinated by it.
I think, when I was a kid, I wasthe one that was into ghost
stories and things that go bumpin the night.
And that definitely did notscare me.
I think it scared my parents alittle bit that those were the

(12:13):
things that I really thoughtwere fun.
But I wasn't weird about it.

Krista (12:18):
Nice.
That's lucky.
A lot of people have theopposite, these qualities and
abilities and sensitivitiesoverwhelm either them or their
family of origin or both.
And it gets shelved or shutdown, yay that you didn't have
to go through that.
And then did you have any sortof, awakening?

(12:40):
Was it a slow evolution?
Did it all evolve naturally, ifyou will?

Colleen (12:44):
I think for me I would have to say it evolved more
naturally.
I've heard people who've gottenhit over the head with it, it's
all of a sudden they've foundthe path but I think mine was a
little bit more organically andit's interesting that I cannot
remember the exact moment orreason why but when I switched
from studying anthropology andchoosing to study Chinese

(13:05):
medicine I can't recall Whatthat was a lot of times people
have a story, Oh, Chinesemedicine, acupuncture helped
with a condition and then I wassold and I wanted to give this
to the rest of the world kind ofa thing.
And I, I don't have that story.
But I do feel if I have to put aname to it, if I have to

(13:26):
describe it, I do feel like Iwas guided to do it because as I
look back, At my trajectory, Ican see where there were points
in my life where it was like,nope, this is a really good
nudge this way.
And then let's nudge this way.
So I do feel like I have beensupported spiritually.
But I don't have an origin storyin that way.

(13:48):
Much more kind of trusting Inthe path that lies ahead,

Krista (13:54):
Curiosity led you

Colleen (13:56):
for sure.
Curiosity.
Absolutely.

Krista (13:59):
Yeah.
Then the satisfaction of havingthose questions or those
sensations answered, and thengoing into the next, going into
the next.
Quiana, tell us a bit about yourbackground, what kinds of
readings or healings have youhad before this?
And then what were yourexpectations coming into this or
any reservations if you had any?

Quiana (14:20):
Yeah, absolutely.
From a historical perspective Ihad my first energy reading, I
would say maybe 15, 16 yearsago.
So it's been quite a while.
And I was led to her because I,um, Funny story.
my mom came to visit.
After a breakup and anyone thatknows me is knows I'm a neat

(14:44):
freak.
So my home is always very cleanand everything's very in order.
And she came and she was like,the amount of dust in this place
is ridiculous.
She was like, I think you'redepressed.
And so I started to seek,therapy especially because, When
you look at the relationship, Iwasn't really happy in the

(15:05):
relationship anyway.
So why wasn't I experiencing afeeling of relief of not being
in it versus being devastatedand not cleaning my house.
So I started to seek the help oftherapists and it just wasn't,
Connecting.
At the time I was doing a lot oftalking in the sessions and I

(15:25):
was looking for more guidancethan I was getting.
And a friend of mine introducedme to that.
And I felt like I could talk toher about what was going on.
So a way for me to release that.
And she gave me the guidancethat I was looking for, but on
top of that, she introduced meto Reiki healing.

(15:47):
And I was able to expressmyself, but also open myself to
the healing that I needed atthat point, I was just focused
on getting past the breakup.
But as time has passed, I lookmore at these spiritual methods
as ways for me to reconnect tomy authentic self and learn more
about myself.

(16:07):
And.
continue to heal myself and beon the path to who God has
created me to be.
So in addition to the Reiki, tofurther answer your question,
I've gotten tarot card readingsas well.
I've had experiences withChinese medicine, acupuncture.
I have even experienced aceremony of ayahuasca.

(16:29):
And I do a lot of meditationmyself, a lot of journaling.
And what I have learned throughthese readings is a lot of the
readers have told me about myintuitive gifts Yvette was the
first one to tell me about it.
And I my response was, Okay,like I have no idea what you're

(16:49):
talking about, but okay, I haveintuitive powers.
I don't know what that means,but the more I continue to hear
it from different people thatdid not know each other, I was
like, Oh, they may be ontosomething.
And one of the tarot cardreaders she actually, shared
with me, this is how you tapinto.

(17:09):
Your intuitive gifts if you'reinterested in exploring that.
And so I followed thoseinstructions and was absolutely
freaked out and also amazed atwhat I experienced.
And so I'm grateful to havefound that part of myself as
well.

Krista (17:25):
What were those instructions?

Quiana (17:27):
She told me to grounded.
I have quite a few crystals.
So I used my, smoky quartz andthe clear quartz to ground
myself.
And then I also used my amethystto activate my third eye.
Because in addition to tappinginto those powers, I also wanted

(17:48):
to energetically communicatewith someone that I was having a
hard time.
communicating with in 3D.
And so activated my third eye.
And in the case of trying tocommunicate with someone, she
instructed me to ask this personfor permission to access.
Him or her.

(18:09):
And so I did that and apparentlyI received permission.
And so it was a very interestingcollaborative exchange on an
energetic level.
And I called immediately Oh myGod, if you were right.

Krista (18:26):
Wow.
And you have continued thispractice.
Is it like a meditative statethat you achieve?

Quiana (18:32):
I had a very specific purpose.
Time.
So it's not something that I do.
All right, even that I've donequite often this part of the in
sometimes communicates with me.
Because when I called her and Iwas like, Oh my God.
I can't believe it.
She's do you know what thatmeans?
And I said, no, I'm like, stillfreaked out.

(18:53):
I need some time to process it.
And she said, it means that theother person has intuitive
powers as well.
And although I have notinitiated that exchange, I have
received it from that sameperson before.
And to be clear, this person isliving, not passed over,

(19:13):
correct?
Living.
Exciting.
Colby, can you tell us about thework that you do for someone
that has never heard ofintuitive healing or as you like
to call it intuitivecommunication how would you
describe it and what would youconsider its purpose to be?

Colleen (19:32):
Sure.
I would describe intuitivecommunication as a spirit to
spirit conversation.
And what I take a look at iswhat is, Standing between them
and what they are trying tocreate in their life.
So what are those things thatthey are tripping over or that
show up as blockages Or hurdlesfor them to get over in order to

(19:57):
bring more of what they arewanting to create into their
life.
So it's, Bringing them more inalignment with their higher
selves, so to speak.
I look at the aura and thechakras Sometimes past life
information does come through,sometimes spirit guides,
sometimes loved ones that havepassed on.
I just let it all unfold.

(20:18):
To show me what's going on inyour space.
And then that person really setsthe tone.
I do feel like, I create ahealing space and I just hold
that for somebody to come into,whether they want to walk into
it or not, it's up to them.
But I do hold the space and letthem write the story, write the

(20:38):
session.
And I'm just observing andcommunicating or relaying what
that person is showing me.

Krista (20:47):
Would you say that they reveal as much as they are
willing or able?
So if the body is ready torelease, have you seen it where
the body can be in conflict withthe mind or the mind can try to
control?
Would that be considered some ofthe barriers that you may find?

Colleen (21:04):
Yeah, there's no limit to The barriers that we've
created for ourselves.
So yeah, sometimes they lie inthe body.
The physical body the emotionalbody the mental is a big one.
People really get tied up intheir own head so Helping people
realize When that's happeningoftentimes I see people getting

(21:26):
in their own way, their mindIt's like a hamster wheel,
right?

Krista (21:30):
How does that come through the energy because I
find that the mind is ourbiggest hurdle to overcome and
it interferes a lot.
Do you see that, In theenergetic realm.
And is it something that you tryto diffuse?
Does it sometimes create toomuch interference and you can't
move through it?

Colleen (21:50):
I think that it's very easy to feel it from an
energetic space, a busy mind.
There's a lot of filters that wehave in our brain just based on
our our belief systems.
And a lot of times it's theattachment to those belief
systems that kind of keeps youin these parameters, these boxes

(22:11):
of limitations.
So when you can when you can tosomebody look you have some
limitations based on a beliefsystem that No longer serves you
boom.
That really opens up a space forpeople because most of the time
they're completely unaware thatthey have them or that they've
been operating on them and tohelp people step out of that box

(22:35):
that's a pretty, that's a reallybeautiful thing to observe in
somebody because you're watchingsomebody actively evolve,

Krista (22:45):
I think that we all carry different levels of
conditioning through not onlyour childhood, but inheriting
the beliefs and conditioning ofour parents and their parents.
Even past lives can affect someof our thinking and behaviors.
Have you seen that to be true?

Colleen (23:02):
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And that's why it's importantthat when I open up a session
that I'm letting that personshow me where to go, what to
look at, because sometimespeople will come right up with
past life energy and wherethings are stuck in those
spaces.
And other times it's childhood.

(23:24):
Other times it could beyesterday.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
Where it comes from.
Sky's the limit.

Krista (23:33):
If something comes up in a session with me, Often clients
will say, but I already healedthat.
Or I've worked on that, or,basically it's finished.
We don't recognize the roots andthe layers and how, those things
can come back up to furtherinform us, to help us navigate,
to bring our attention to, yeah,it might be this that healed,

(23:55):
and I'm using air quotes, butthere's root structures that
extend outside of that as well.
And, if we are ever listeningand growing and changing and
evolving, then it's reallyimportant that we participate in
and not, try to control, right?
There's no boxes to check off.
We should live in all of it andlet all of it inform us.

Colleen (24:19):
Yeah.
I think that's a reallyimportant thing that you bring
up about the layers of aparticular trauma or a
particular picture that somebodymight be stuck on is that, yeah,
you could work that entire thingfor a lifetime or several
lifetimes.
And it just depends on whatlayer of that thing you're now
ready to peel off.

Krista (24:41):
And even how far back it goes.
Yeah.
There's almost no way of tellinghow deep it is.
And I don't know that's evenimportant.
If it's still showing up foryou, then it's your
responsibility to honor it andkeep working with it for as long
as it needs your love andsupport and attention.

Colleen (25:00):
Absolutely.

El (25:02):
Colleen, back to the shamanism do you have a personal
journeying practice or did youexplore more of that on your
own?

Colleen (25:09):
I think for me, personally, the whole idea of
shamanism can be a broad term.
So I don't personally considermyself a shaman.
a shaman, but I think that someof the things that I do could be
considered in that world.

El (25:24):
Like a journey space when you're working?

Colleen (25:27):
Yes.
A lot of times I do likesometimes That's so weird.
These lights never flicker likethat.
Or is it not weird, right?
Yeah, it's not

Krista (25:38):
weird at all.
Colleen the lights in her homeare flickering on and off
repeatedly.
It's

El (25:44):
like Morse code.
It's the Wu shamanesses comingto you.
Oh, now we've lost hercompletely.
All right.
It's definitely the Wushamanesses then.

Krista (25:53):
What is that?

El (25:54):
They were the original female shamans in China.

Krista (25:59):
Oh, wow.
And El, will you describe whenyou ask about journey, what are
the layman's terms?
What would you define as ajourney practice?

El (26:08):
Shamanism is the oldest spiritual practice in the world
and it's really connectedworldwide by using, either a
substance or rhythm or music orfasting to enter an altered
state of consciousness or atranscendent state of
consciousness to access in coreshamanism, they're going to call
it the lower, the middle and theupper world.

(26:30):
So essentially you're accessingthese alternate faces of The
world that surrounds us, thesealternate faces of reality.
It could be that, or maybe we'rejust tapping into our
subconscious, regardless, we'regoing to get information from
those spaces.
So this practice of going into atranscendental state, which is
essentially letting go of yourthinking mind, which, Colleen
was just talking about gets inour way.

(26:51):
And then we're able to accessthis more intuitive space, this
subconscious space, or thisExtra layer of reality space.

Krista (26:59):
So the power and the entire house just went out.

El (27:02):
Oh, no.

Krista (27:04):
And Colleen is checking the breaker.
Let's see if she can get backonline.
Quiana As the recipient of thiswork with Colleen, how would you
describe the experience?

Quiana (27:15):
As she was explaining or describing it it mirrored
exactly my experience with hernormally, I guess this is my
type a brain.
There are certain bullet pointsthat I want to touch on.
But in this session, I had noplans whatsoever, no
expectations whatsoever.
I wanted to just go into it.

(27:36):
And my only prayer was Godcontinued to be present, during
this session cover the, both ofus during this session and
reveal to Colleen, what sheneeds in order to reveal to me
the information that you'd likefor me to have.
So That's that was my onlyexpectation in ask via prayer.
But she is very aligned andgifted.

(27:58):
And in the session, there wasreally nothing that I disagreed
with or questioned.
There were some things that sheshared with me that actually
gave me a few aha moments andconnected.
Things that I'd known, but notquite understood why they were

(28:20):
the way that they are.
So specifically speaking we weretalking about people's beliefs
and how what you believe.
Determines ultimately what youexperience in life.
And as we were talking about mebeing in this space of releasing
more masculine energy that Ihave been leading with, like

(28:41):
from a work perspective andLiving independently and having
to do all the things, mostthings on my own.
Some releasing those masculineenergies and embracing my
feminine energies a part ofembracing that feminine energy
for me is being much more openfrom a heart center perspective,
much more open in regards tolove and one of the beliefs that

(29:04):
she called out was how I've beencarrying around this belief that
love is pain.
And if you look at myexperiences from a relationship
perspective, they've not beendeeply painful.
There's been some hurt, ofcourse, and some pain, but it's
not too deep.
And so she's you have thisbelief because it's been passed

(29:28):
down to you.
And so if I look back over myancestors some of which are
still here and what theirexperiences have been in this
space, it has been very painful.
And so when you pass that downand my mom may have responded a
certain way to my grandmother'sexperience.

(29:50):
My mom's response to that formsher belief, which she passes on
to me and my sister and so itwas really eye opening for me to
be able to connect it for one tohear her say that, because
that's never a belief that Ithought I embedded.
Or had embedded, but to hear hersay it, I was like, you know

(30:11):
what makes perfect sense.
And now I can figure out wherethat came from and how to
address it.
So it was an amazing session.

Colleen (30:18):
All right, so Quiana, I'm just gonna start by having
you, close your eyes for amoment, and take a deep breath,
or two, and allow yourself toground, to come into this
moment, to allow yourself to bein the space of healing, and the

(30:42):
vibration of receiving.
Giving yourself permission torelease anything that no longer
serves you.
And when you're ready, you canopen your eyes, Quiana, what
would your healing request befor today?
What is it that you want to takea look at?

Quiana (31:02):
Interestingly, it's what you just stated, which is Giving
myself permission to let go ofwhat no longer serves me.
As I mentioned, I do feel likeI'm in a space of transition.
And so I know that there's beena lot of release already.
And so if there's any, anythingelse that needs to be released I

(31:26):
welcome that insight.
And also any information thatneeds to be revealed to me to
help me.
Along the the path of where I'mheading.

Colleen (31:38):
And just to remind you, I work this like a conversation.
So anything that might come upthat you feel like you need more
clarification on or you want todo a deeper dive into or you
have something to say or commentabout just speak up.
Okay, I will do.
Okay, Quianaana, the your secondchakra is really.
Catching my attention right nowyour second and your crown.

(32:02):
There's a lot of female energy,feels like part of this
transition that you talked abouthas to do with Your female
energy some of it on a physicallevel, but then there's this
part about the crown that kindof chimes in and looks like it's
elevating your female energy.
So there's this kind ofempowerment or strength that's

(32:25):
coming in with your femaleenergy.
That is coming from a femalesource or strength or space.
It looks like in the past youhave used some male energy.
We're all A combination offemale and male energy.
we have learned from eitherupbringing or society that we
have needed to use our maleenergy for certain things.

(32:46):
You are looking at some of theplaces where you have used the
male energy and this is part ofthe transition the realization
that you can come from thosereally deep wise female spaces
and be just as effective, evenmore effective because you're

(33:07):
being more true to yourself.
than using the male part.
You are evolving in that way andreleasing some of that male
energy that ultimately becomeslimiting for you, especially in
the ways that you're wanting tocommunicate.
Thing that's coming up is yourfourth chakra.
The heart space right herethere's some guarding there's

(33:29):
also a sense of going back tothe female energy you're also
bringing up your mom.
So there's a bit of an ancestralpiece to this as well.
I feel like you were having someissues with your mom or your mom
was having some of her ownissues.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
Yeah.

Quiana (33:48):
Yeah, a couple of months ago she was in the hospital

Colleen (33:52):
part of what you're doing, and this involves your
crown, your fourth, and yoursecond, going back to the
ancestral piece separating yourfemale energy from other female
energies in the family.
So where the patterns of beliefor ideas, things that have been
quote unquote passed down arenot in complete and total

(34:15):
alignment with or you've grownout of.
These are also releasing out ofthese three spaces.

Quiana (34:23):
I agree with that.

Colleen (34:25):
The fourth right now seems to be the hardest or the
most stubborn one.
And there's a protective or adisconnect with some of your own
feelings or your ability toreceive.
And this is where some of thattoughness That you may have used
over your lifetime where itbecomes, almost too painful to

(34:48):
lead with the heart.
So you control how much youallow in or out.
There's some childhood picturesthat are coming up where you
felt, you felt bad aboutyourself, invalidated.
It's so good.
It feels like, um, you know,when you're a kid and you get in
trouble and you just feel crummyabout things for a while.
It's like that.

(35:08):
So you're releasing some oldenergy out of your fourth it's
almost like you were coming froma place of joy or like a higher
vibration and then an adult or aperson in authority popped your
bubble, so to speak.
And then there was this feelingof feeling bad about yourself.
So you're releasing some ofthose pictures, those memories,

(35:30):
because where you're reallygoing is it looks like, part of
your next step is incorporatingthat higher female wisdom into
your space, but also this ideaof really self acceptance.
And coming from a space ofsafety almost that it's okay to

(35:52):
be in your heart space and it'sokay to not only love yourself,
but also to show that out to theworld, but at the same time, be
able to receive when somebody isacknowledging you, especially in
a really loving way or in aalmost like giving you praise.

(36:12):
Does that make sense?

Quiana (36:13):
It does makes makes full sense.
It's been this particular topicof feeling safe to be in my
heart space.
Safe to show myself to theworld.
It's just people in general.
And to be able to receive hasbeen something that I've been

(36:35):
working on for a while.

Krista (36:38):
So in having that recognition of how these beliefs
That you held and how theytelegraph out into the world or
can impact your decision makingsince the session.
Have you been able to pull thatback into behaviors and thoughts

(36:59):
Has it shifted your approach

Quiana (37:02):
It has.
And even beyond that, I'm askingmyself, what is the experience?
That I truly want to have whatis going to bring me joy, like
in this space because anotherthing that we talked about is
how I have been attached to thispatriarchal system that honestly

(37:22):
doesn't align with the truth ofwho I am or what I want.
I'm more of an unorthodox, nontraditional type of girl and
trying to fit yourself into abox.
That was never designed for youis very challenging and very
frustrating.
And you don't really get theexperience that you want.
And so post that session, I'vebeen asking myself what does
that look like?

(37:43):
And who do I want to show up asin that relationship, or who do
I need to be in order to havethe experience that I'm looking
to have.
Also in that session, she talkedabout the chakras that stood out
to her and it's very interestingshe said she saw colors of green
and violet and orange.

(38:05):
And those are colors that, thatseemed to follow me during my
ayahuasca experience, in mykaleidoscope visions, those were
the colors.
Those are areas that either are.
Highly active for me and, orareas that need to be further
healed.

Krista (38:23):
Going back to your box analogy, I could imagine that it
pulled the veil and you can lookat your life.
And the people in it and thinkis that another box that I am
expected to fit into or I wastrying to fit into and scrapping
the box and creating your own,whatever you want it to be.
Yeah.
But you might look at thelandscape and think, wow, that's

(38:44):
a lot of boxes out there.
I'm gonna clean, sweep it.

Quiana (38:49):
Yeah.
And it could be overwhelming,but I'm enjoying it.
Ultimately, I feel okay.
Someone's giving me a blankslate and I get to write the
story that I want to come tolife.
And not only am I thinking aboutthat from a relationship
experience, but also from a workperspective.

(39:11):
And tapping into the power ofowning that we're able to write
our own stories and be inalignment with spirit, with God
and ask to be guided towards theactions that we need to take in
order to bring that in.

Krista (39:27):
Right.

Quiana (39:28):
I'm excited.

Krista (39:29):
I'm excited for you.
I'm going to.
Go back to this box analogy,because I think that the world
wants us to live in boxes.
And I think there's a big partof all of us that feel safe just
complying to what is expected ofus.
It gives us the illusion ofcontrol.
And so to break away from thatand break free is incredibly

(39:50):
counterintuitive.
Even on a primal level, to bedifferent, to be separate to
separate.
So it's a huge shift that, thatyou're endeavoring into that we
all, I think everyone here todayis endeavoring into or has,
yeah.

Quiana (40:07):
As I look back over my life, when I choose to conform
or put myself in a box at acertain point, I'm going to
experience frustration.
That's not where I belong, andI'm not wired to stay where I
don't belong for too long.

(40:28):
I think we can all overstay ourwelcome.
But at a certain point, thefrustration will be so high for
me that I have to leave.
And I try not to do it abruptly,although, in my younger days was
like, you know what, I'm out.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
But I've got to get out of thisspace.
So for me, when I'm frustrated,it lets me know that I need to

(40:49):
pay attention to my environmentand start asking myself
questions about, what's working,what's not working and what I
need to change.

Krista (40:59):
I see that as your heightened relationship to the
feeling part of you and yourability to listen to that,
because I think we're allhardwired to not be where we
don't belong and we will getsignals or signs or intuitive
hits and we can numb that,right?
We can disassociate from that.

(41:20):
We can shut that down, suppressthat.
And then it will often come upin physical ailments.
Or phobias or anxiety orinsomnia.
We're being told all the time.
It's whether we're willing andable and ready to listen.

Quiana (41:35):
To your point about me being in tune to my feelings,
definitely more so now than everbefore.
And so when I feel thatfrustration, it's much more
intense.
Now, I have to pay much moreattention to it and ask the
questions and be guided.
So I agree with you on that.

Krista (41:56):
It's so inspiring.
The session really blew me away.
There was so much precision init.
Like Colleen was able toidentify a recent ailment of a
family member and it showed upin your body.
And she was able to even sharethe identity of that family
member.
That must have been a wild kindof experience for you or very
surprising.

Quiana (42:18):
Yeah.
Because I've been doing this fora while, but I do continue to be
surprised by people, gifts andtalent.
So absolutely.
That was surprising.
But I also embraced that and wasvery grateful.

Krista (42:32):
Yeah, it was beautiful.
It was interesting that someonethat you care about that was
struggling that she could seethat in your energy.
It just goes to show thebeautiful connectivity that we
all have.
if we're open and available toit.
It made me think that, in youdoing your healing if that
person's showing up in yourenergy, then you're healing and

(42:54):
your higher vibration can showup in, their energy as well.
So we're all so connected.
She was also able to identifythat you came into this life
with so much light and joy.
And I saw you light up.
It was beautiful.
It's as if you had to hide thatpart of you a way to survive in
this world and receive love.
And yet you are now at a timeand place in your life where

(43:16):
it's safe to call that part ofyou forward and let that part of
you lead.
Would you agree with that?

Quiana (43:22):
I absolutely agree with that.
And.
It's a build on top of what sheread and shared with me about
how I came into the world.
And first of all, I needed tohear that because I've been
seeking joy, so deeply, soaggressively in the past few

(43:45):
years.
And I was just like, everythingis too heavy and too serious all
the time.
I want joy.
I want to go skip down thestreet and invite other people
to come skip down the streetwith me.
Like, how are we enjoyingourselves?
And because I've been seekingthat to hear her tell me, I came
into the world as a joyfulbeing.
But when I was met with thebeliefs of other human beings,

(44:10):
that stunted the truth of who Iam.
And then I started to conformand get in the box and believe
that I have to prove my myselfto others to be loved and be of
service to others in a way thatdepletes me.
And so just the total oppositeof who I am.

Krista (44:30):
I could imagine that having someone that's just
reading your soul's energy toidentify that has to be such a
positive reinforcement towardsclaiming those parts of you
back.

Quiana (44:43):
Yeah, it absolutely is.
I've also walked out realizingI'm no longer going to beat
myself up about, any challengesthat I have with humans from a
relationship perspective.
Cause Hey, maybe that's, moremore work, that I have to do.
And colleen told me the samething.
She said, love is easier for mefrom a spiritual perspective

(45:06):
than it is from, the heart shockor a human perspective.
And again, it just all aligns.
And I enjoy having thatawareness and learning more
about who I truly am and fullyembracing it.
And going back to the blankslate, me rewriting the story of
the impact of love andrelationships and people in my

(45:31):
life.

Krista (45:32):
So belief begets trust, begets surrender, expansion.
Yeah.
A

Quiana (45:40):
lot of surrender going on over here.

Colleen (45:42):
Colleen is back with us.
Woohoo! That was weird.
Holy cow, man.
Something.
Anyway.
Woo.
It's still not on.

Krista (45:54):
It's so all of the energy in your home shut down.
Who's powerful.

Colleen (46:00):
Yeah.
Okay, to just, I've and I don'tthink this is uncommon
electrical things can get weird,but I don't know if any of you
have had the experience.
I have personally had thisexperience more times than I can
count, that when I am in a superhighly emotional space, my phone
will not work.

(46:21):
Or when I've been doingreadings, my face recognition on
the phone won't work.
My phone won't recognize me.

Krista (46:28):
Wow.
Um,

Colleen (46:30):
Or my computer, my laptop shuts down.
Wow.
And I don't think this iscompletely unusual.
I don't think this is what thatwas.
I'm not like highly emotional atthe moment, but that was just
weird.
And I don't know what to make ofthat.

Krista (46:46):
I've encountered kinds of people and, had personal
experiences.
I think we probably all havewhere,

Colleen (46:52):
yeah,

Krista (46:52):
at a higher vibration things start to wobble.
Yeah.
And misaligned.

Colleen (47:00):
But anyway, that was fun.

Krista (47:01):
Yeah, that was awesome.
Glad you're back.
So Kalinda really, reallyinteresting to watch you work.
It was as if you were listening.
How does this work, work withinyou?
Do you see it, feel it, hear it,all of the above?
Tell us about your experiencein, holding a session.

Colleen (47:20):
Yeah, I think I definitely am when I'm seeing
things it's seen through thesex.
I know there's a whole bunch ofdifferent Claire's out there,
like Claire Sentient, ClaireAudient, Claire Voyant, and
there's others.
Sometimes it's the seeing,sometimes it is the knowing,

(47:41):
which I think comes more fromthe crown.
Sometimes it's a hearing andit's not like hearing voices in
your head.
It's more of just like messagesthat seem to come through.
And sometimes it's more likehaving a conversation.
If a person brings in a spiritguide or a past loved one or
something, somebody who has amessage, sometimes it's just

(48:04):
about listening to what thatmessage is.

Krista (48:07):
Is it unique to each person?
I guess it has to be, right?
Whatever they bring in is howthe information will connect to
you.

Colleen (48:14):
Yeah.
Sometimes people are supervisual and it's like watching a
movie.
Sometimes it's not pictures atall.
And it's just messages that comethrough.
And sometimes they're justfeelings.
And I don't always know wherethe information comes from.
A lot of times people ask me torepeat something, and I have a

(48:36):
hard time doing that becausesometimes once it's out of my
mouth, I'm not connected to itanymore.
I have to go back and bring inmy mental part.
I don't think it's a channelingbut I also don't always remember
the sessions or even fiveminutes ago within a session.

Krista (48:57):
That's interesting.
You don't consider itchanneling.
What would you distinguishchanneling to be if this isn't
that?

Colleen (49:03):
I I don't know.
I think that's something yet toexplore.
I've never really consideredmyself a channeler.
I think maybe my sort of,Sophomoric understanding of
channeling is more feeling thatthere's an entity that might be
coming through or somebodywithout a body.

(49:23):
But I don't know that'snecessarily the case.
If I'm channeling, I'm doing itunintentionally.

Krista (49:30):
Got it.
So you mentioned that yousometimes encounter entities
that have attached to anindividual's energy.
What kinds of things have youseen that has surprised you or
shocked you or even scared you?
Did this work take getting usedto in that sense?

Colleen (49:47):
Yeah, in the beginning when there were what you would
consider more lower vibrationalenergies that You know are
attached or hang out withpeople.
I think that was a little bitunsettling but I Gotten to a
point where I'm not afraid of itThey are for the most part just

(50:08):
low vibrational energies and aslong as I keep my energy Higher
there's nothing they can reallydo And in fact, they just go
away They put on the scary maskto try and, give you a shock,
or, instill a little fear, butit really just feels like smoke
and mirrors

Krista (50:29):
do they always release in League?

Colleen (50:31):
Not always.
Not always.
Sometimes it's an agreement thata person has with that energy
and if that person's not readyto release that, they're part of
the agreement, then it's more ofa process.
And maybe they release later.

Krista (50:50):
Because there's something that they will be
learning.
It's some lesson, yeah.
Something that person is incommunication with or in
agreement to, correct?

Colleen (51:00):
Yes.
Definitely.
But I would say the majority ofthe time when people, Come in
with another energy.
It's usually good.
I set the space.
My intention for the space isthat if any other energies are
coming in, that they are for thehighest good of that person.
I actually really physically saythose words.

(51:22):
With some of these energies,people are they're already
there.
Like they're already ready torelease.
This, the energy that has beenholding them back or standing
between them and what they'retrying to create by controlling
what they are allowed to bringinto their space.
So a lot of times it's a half inhalf out.
And so when somebody comes intoa session and that comes up it

(51:46):
doesn't take a whole lot for Itto finally take the step out or
for that person to Bring inenough of their own personal
seniority and ownership to makethat final release.
That makes sense Yeah,

Krista (51:59):
perfectly.
That being said are there anydifficulties that come with your
work?
Are there any obstacles that youface?

Colleen (52:07):
The continued awareness and Dedication to separating
from people is something that Ihave to really keep in mind and
do my due diligence inseparating energies not going
into healing spaces.
Because there's that part of, Ithink a little bit in all of us

(52:29):
that do this kind of work, thishealing stuff that.
You want to go in and fix.
You want to make somebody feelbetter.
You're like, okay, just hang inthere.
We'll go in there and, fix it.
And the reality is that's not inthe highest good of the person.
The highest good of the personis to allow them to have their
own experiences, take their ownsteps so that they can take back

(52:51):
their seniority and make theirown changes.
And that goes back to just,reminding myself to hold space.
I'm holding space, notcontrolling or fixing or
healing, necessarily.
It's just about creating theopportunity for somebody to do
that in a really safe andvalidating way.

Krista (53:12):
Yeah, I think anytime you get into performance, I'm
going to heal you.
Then you step into egoicplacement of savior and victim
and nothing gets accomplished inthat dynamic.
It is a recipe for disaster.
We don't heal each other in thatway I don't think that is

(53:32):
actually possible.
I can't heal you.
You can't heal me.
We can hold space for eachother.

El (53:40):
And support healing in each other, for sure, 100 percent we
can support healing in eachother.
But if I'm not ready to behealed, it doesn't matter how
many magic tricks you throw atme, I'm not going to be healed.
That's not really how it works.
There's going to be a lot ofresistance and probably adverse
effects if people aren't readyto field what is being thrown at
them, if they're being forced orpushed into a certain direction.

Krista (54:02):
Maybe hold a light or point a finger in the right
direction.
Yeah.

Colleen (54:09):
Right exactly to shine some awareness on something so
that when somebody then sees itit might be just brewing in
their space But then whensomebody says hey, have you
looked at that then that givesthem the opportunity to be like
Okay, I think there was a pointin the session Quiana where You

(54:31):
had an aha moment about someancestral energy You And I
thought that's a good example ofwhat I'm talking about.

Quiana (54:37):
Yeah, it was when you revealed to me that I've been
carrying around the belief thatlove is pain.
So yeah that indeed was an ahamoment.
also through that awareness.
I believe that it is helping toheal that not just within me,
but all the way back up

Colleen (55:00):
this piece about love and who you love.
Especially when it comes in withregards to romantic situations,
you're speaking to that in yourcrown.
It's like you embody it.
More completely than just inyour fourth or, just for
yourself or, in certainsituations, you really take that

(55:21):
love piece and it becomes whoyou are in general.
I hope I'm describing thatbecause I can see it and it's
really beautiful.
Sometimes it loses it in thetranslation.
So this is interesting.
You're more comfortable comingfrom that place of love in your
crown than you are in yourfourth.
This is a harder place.

(55:41):
This is like a little bit moreof an effort piece for you which
you're working on, but it'seasier for you to feel love
almost out here on the outsideof your body, then you are like
inside but when you do bringthat vibration in, it helps to
work that lifetime starting whenyou were a kid of these pain

(56:03):
pictures or these memories ofwhere some of those family
programs landed.
But it was supported, byexperiences over a lifetime that
supported that guarded feelingor that feeling of not feeling
safe and that the world wasn'ttrustworthy and people weren't
trustworthy.

Quiana (56:22):
Is it more comfortable for me spiritually than it is

Colleen (56:26):
Yeah.

Quiana (56:27):
Within my body, meaning like my heart and my in my mind.
It's not as comfortable in thosespaces.

Colleen (56:34):
That's a really good point that you make.
Yes.
You seem to be getting it moreor it's easier for you to make
those evolutionary steps.
More from a spiritual level oflove and harder in the body
space or the heart space becauseit does bump up against some of

(56:55):
those pain pictures that arereal.

Quiana (56:56):
What is the best way to Work on releasing that so that
it's more comfortable for me,both outside and inside
spiritually.
And I guess you could sayphysically,

Colleen (57:10):
let me take a look at this.
Everything is in motion rightnow.
So it's not like there's a lotthat you need to do it's not
really a doing thing.
It's more about having theawareness of you're starting to
feel shut down, on a love level,whether that means for yourself
or for other people, whetheryou're having a hard time

(57:32):
receiving.
And the more that you are awarethat this is something that's in
process and this is somethingthat you are working the more
you can speak to it, and reallygive it a moment of attention.
And it's that moment ofattention or that illumination
that helps it to continue tomove.
Does that help?

(57:54):
Yeah.

Quiana (57:55):
We've spent a lot of time on the fourth chakra, but
you also mentioned in the secondchakra, there's energy blocks

Colleen (58:05):
yeah, so those are moving, but it feels dense in
here and these feel like placeswhere you have stored away.
Emotions.
And I would also say this is aplace where you could continue
to be aware of letting go.
There's a bit again ofprotection there.

(58:26):
And a little bit of a guardedfeeling as well it feels
difficult to be vulnerable.
You also carry in there whetherit's personal or from the family
or maybe just like women ingeneral, but there is a feeling
of carrying female abuse orabuse on the female.

(58:47):
So whether that is physical oremotional.
Just saying hello to allowingthat to release.

Quiana (58:56):
I think I just had an aha moment.

Colleen (58:58):
Oh, good.
Aha moments are great.

Quiana (59:00):
You said physical or emotional.
So I have not experiencedphysical abuse.
Not so much emotional.
But.
My grandmother, my mother'smother,

Colleen (59:19):
yeah.

Quiana (59:20):
Fortunately has only experienced physically and
emotionally abusiverelationships.
And so I think that probablyfeeds into the mindset that I
shared that my mom passed downthat no one can be trusted or
love is.

(59:41):
I don't know.
Maybe I love his pain.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And so maybe that stems fromthat.

Colleen (59:52):
Yes.
Yes.
So this is where that pieceabout releasing the mother, the
grandmother, the ancestralenergy and coming more into a
space of your female energy thatis more in alignment with you
because these are not yourstories you've been carrying
them, but they're not yours tocarry and They're not your

(01:00:17):
responsibility to heal.
And in fact, when they'rereleased it allows for that
person, whether she's present orshe's passed for that person to
heal on their own, within theirown soul's journey, you're
giving the energy back to them,but it's not like you're giving
them something bad.

(01:00:37):
You're giving it back to them sothat they can heal it.

Quiana (01:00:40):
That's good also to hear, because I have given
myself this family healerresponsibility and label and
perhaps that is hindering me

Krista (01:00:55):
colleen, it seemed as though the information coming
through was based around thechakra system.
Is that the case in all of yoursessions or was that unique to
this one?

Colleen (01:01:05):
I think I probably start there because it's
familiar.
Like when you start aconversation with a person, it's
a getting to know you a thing.
So when I sit down withsomebody, yeah, it's let's just
start here and see what's goingon.
And I'm saying hello to a personin spirit I'm basically looking
at a person on the other side ofmy aura so I know where my

(01:01:28):
boundaries are energetically.
I'm looking at them on the otherside of that.
So that's where I start and thenI just watch things unfold and I
might have a little bit of aquiet spirit to spirit
conversation with them before Iactually start talking to them
verbally.
Beautiful.

Krista (01:01:47):
Do you actually see the release take place?
Is that a visual that you canexperience?
Or is it a feeling?
Is that something that has shownup for you in sessions.

Colleen (01:02:00):
Yes, definitely.
Absolutely.
Seeing people's energy move.
That happens for sure.
And so whether that's, Happensvisually or sometimes people
feel it in their bodies.
They can feel things leave, theycan feel things move they'll
have all kinds of differentphysical experiences and then

(01:02:20):
sometimes I'll get a text or anemail a few days later, and
they'll say, since our session,that has happened.
Yeah.
Or the movement or the change lands, they incorporate
that release and it opens upspaces in them where more of
their own personal informationcan come in.

(01:02:44):
So they are more of the captainof their own ship.
That is.
The goal of a lot of this is howmuch ownership can you have of
yourself?
You know in present time, andwhen you're in present time,
it's a lot easier to feel Thatoneness that centeredness that
alignment with yourself so a lotof times people live too much in

(01:03:08):
the future or too much in thepast and they spend very little
time in the present just YouBeing and existing in that
moment.
That's part of the awareness toois to recognize when you're
acting too much in the futureand when you're, operating too
much from past information.

Quiana (01:03:27):
I would love to to respond to this as well, about.
The release for me post sessionbecause of the awareness that I
received during the session.
I've been doing this for a whileand sometimes you're like, okay,
what else do I need to know?
Like how much work do I need tocontinue to have to do?

(01:03:49):
But you get to the point whereit's I'm embracing whatever I
need to be aware of.
And post a session with Colleen.
I really.
I was honing in on, wow, I'vebeen carrying around a belief
that I didn't really know I hadthat I know that I need to
release.
And one morning while I wasmeditating, I was motivated to

(01:04:15):
journal and I literally listedeverything that I need to
release, like beyond what she isaware of.
And I kept going and going.
I kept writing and writing.
I was like, Oh, I need torelease this or this may be
another belief that I need toget rid of.
Then after writing the list, Ididn't view it as complete.

(01:04:37):
I left myself open to continueto identify more beliefs,
thoughts, experiences that Iwant to release.
And once I felt the list wascomplete, I started to say,
okay, if I'm releasing thesethings, what do I want to
replace that with?
In my life.

(01:04:58):
So where are the experiencesthat I want to have in place of
what I'm releasing that justnaturally flowed after my
session.
So thank you again for that.

Colleen (01:05:10):
Of course, that's beautiful.
Thank you.

El (01:05:13):
Did you find that writing that list helped you to release
some of those things or someelement of those things by
acknowledging it Yeah, I did.

Quiana (01:05:21):
And so I wrote it and then I read the list.
I spoke into existence that I amreleasing these things, and I
asked for guidance from God,from spirit in helping me.
To release them.
So yes, and even after doingthat, I felt lighter.
I knew that the work wasn't donethat quickly.

(01:05:42):
Although I would have welcomedit to be done.
But but yeah, I felt lighterjust even after that.
And I also allowed myself torevisit it a few times to be
reminded of what I'm releasing.
So yeah, I I say yes to that.
And the only thing I've not doneyet, but this will be the finale

(01:06:05):
for the release, is to actuallyburn that list.
I was gonna say

Krista (01:06:08):
that, yes, Oh, that's awesome.

Colleen (01:06:11):
Love it.
I think it's also important toremember that this is life's
work, right?
It's really the path, it's alifestyle in a way.
You're never going to stoplearning.
You're never going to stopdiscovering if you embrace this
path.
Anytime you start to feel thatit gets to be work or effort I
think it's helpful to just takea moment and see what are you

(01:06:34):
resisting?
Why does it have to be work?
Why can't it just be self love,I have seen when, you take that
effort piece out, when yousurrender to it, it doesn't mean
that you are allowing it toovertake, you're allowing it to
move.
Just being in that flow andbeing in that movement, it helps
the lifestyle helps the pathbecause every day, every moment,

(01:06:56):
it becomes an opportunity forgrowth.
Whatever that is for theindividual.

Krista (01:07:01):
I see surrender is the act of inviting other benevolent
forces to participate.
I think that in the humancondition, we get surrendered.
It's so overwrought with I'vegot to do this.
It's all on me.
Only I can do it, but when Isurrender, I have so much help
and grace and support andinformation and love.

(01:07:23):
I feel loved and supported, butI'm no longer participating
fully in the human experience atthat point.

El (01:07:30):
One quick question.
When Colleen mentioned selflove, I really felt it in my
heart.
So I was curious to see whatthat experience was for you is
self love also like a conceptthat you, that you kind of sense
in your, in your crown or isthat,, does that connect with
your, with your heart space?

Quiana (01:07:47):
I'm starting to feel it in my heart space more.
I'm also working on not beingruled and controlled by my mind
and allowing myself to be in mybody more.
Whereas before it would be moreof a mental thing, I am starting
to feel that more as well.
And when she said that I smiledand was like, yeah, why does it

(01:08:11):
have to be work?
And once it gets to a pointwhere it feels like work to our
point, it's okay maybe we justtake a step back and Go skip
down the street for a little bit

Krista (01:08:23):
Get together at some point Idea Colleen, did you want
to answer that as well?

Colleen (01:08:30):
About where do I feel the love?
Yeah, I you know, I think theself love Is ever evolving.
I'm getting better at it, but Ithink that, like a lot of
people, there's a lot ofopportunity for, self judgment,
self criticism, even selfpunishment, blame, guilt.

(01:08:51):
It has a lot of names and a lotof feelings to it.
And just every time that comesup really trying to give
yourself some grace, if you'vedone the best that you can do,
if you were the best version ofyou in that particular day, then
you rocked it.
And you know that the next daymight be different.

Krista (01:09:13):
The next day is always different.

Colleen (01:09:15):
Yeah.

Krista (01:09:17):
Colleen and Quiana, tell us why this work is important to
you.
What does it mean to you?
What does it give to you

Colleen (01:09:25):
I think that this work shifted the way that I look at
life.
This paradigm that started withChinese medicine and maybe even
before that, the anthropologywith the shamanism stuff So
shifted how I look at everythingin life.
The more I get into the energywork, I do believe it gives
every moment an opportunity, forgrowth.

(01:09:45):
Now am I always a hundredpercent conscious of every
moment in my day being a growthsituation?
Not necessarily, but it's thesum of all the parts.
So for me, the continuation ofexploring and giving myself the
opportunity to change and torelease, and to discover

(01:10:07):
different parts of myself,whether, I agree with them or
not.
That self awareness and thatself knowledge, getting to know
myself even more that keepsunfolding, and I keep surprising
myself.
That to me is why I continue todo it, because I think there's
more to discover.

Krista (01:10:29):
Isn't that amazing?
And you've been doing it as longas you have, and yet you're
still discovering newinformation and experiences and
methods, probably

Colleen (01:10:38):
yeah.
And I don't ever see myselfstopping that because the
movement is so important.

Krista (01:10:47):
Yes, movement is incredibly important.
Quiana, what would you like toshare in terms of why you do
this work?

Quiana (01:10:55):
It's important to me for multiple reasons.
I think we're so focused on theexternal and so affected by the
external.
I've gotten to a point where.
I am exhausted being at effectof other people or things like
outside of me to the point thatit takes me away from myself.

(01:11:19):
So it's important to me becauseit allows me to focus inward,
and to understand myself morethrough the awareness that we
were talking about and openmyself up to the healing.
That I need in order toreconnect to my authentic self.
And in order to open yourself upto that healing, you have to be

(01:11:42):
vulnerable.
And that's been a challenge forme.
But I also believe that's wherethe magic happens.
Like when you're able to be.
Vulnerable and be open to eventrying things that you've not
done before.
Like I researched ayahuasca along time ago.
I was like, Oh, that soundsinteresting, but maybe not for

(01:12:04):
me.
And now I've had that experienceand it was absolutely life
changing.
So I think, the.
Experience of being vulnerableenough to be taken where you
need to go to become who it isyou were created to be.
Oh my God, I've

Krista (01:12:20):
seen that again.

Quiana (01:12:22):
Oh, what did I just say?
To become vulnerable enoughwhere you need to go to become
who you were created to be is iswhy I do it.
And I think what my heartdesires matters.
And I have to honor that and Ihave to get myself into a place
where I can honor that.

(01:12:42):
And so this work helps me dothat because if not, I'm only
partially living life and I'mnot here for that.
I want to live it fully andenjoy it and be an example to
other people that they can havethat experience.

Krista (01:13:04):
I'm left speechless.
That's so beautiful.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
So we'd like to ask everyone toshare with us your spiritual
practices, the ones that youutilize on a regular basis to
help you find balance andconnection.
Quiana, do you want to start?

Quiana (01:13:23):
My spiritual practices,

Krista (01:13:25):
Anything that are your go to remedies or practices?

Quiana (01:13:30):
From a meditation perspective based on what I'm
feeling do I feel like my auraneeds to be cleansed?
Do I want to focus on my rootchakra today?
I'll find meditation music.
To leverage for that duringthose meditation sessions.
I mentioned giving myselfreadings before.
I have two separate decks.
An Oracle deck and a Tarot deck.

(01:13:52):
From a breath work perspective,I use the information that
you've shared with me Kristathat's been very helpful as
well.
So those are my main methods atthis time.
A spiral notebook from Targetfor journaling,

Krista (01:14:09):
any excuse to get a target run in Colleen, what
about you?

Colleen (01:14:15):
I use meditation a lot.
Definitely every day, maybemultiple times a day.
Especially if I'm working.
I ground and run energy throughmy body running that energy
through my body and being awareof where my aura is and how to
cleanse that It's like taking anenergetic shower and then when I

(01:14:38):
do that making sure that I fillup with What it is I need in
that moment.
So whatever that is and justdoing that in an intentional way
you know that I find a lot ofspiritual connection to the
earth so i'm gardening quite abit Oh, nice.
And that really helps and Iwould say hiking and running for

(01:14:59):
more of that active physicalpiece and running was probably
one of my earliest go tos whenit came to, centering and
getting more into a groundedstate and an opportunity to
release.

Krista (01:15:13):
Yeah.
It's so effective.
I love it too.
All right.
Before we close, is thereanything that any of you would
like to share that we didn'tcover or anything you'd like to
ask of each other?
Everyone feel

Colleen (01:15:26):
good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you, Krista.
This is a fun opportunity.

Krista (01:15:30):
Oh, so much.
Colleen, let's tell everyonewhere they can find you.

Colleen (01:15:36):
You can find me at wild dash healing.
com is my website.
So that's an opportunity.
And I work out of an office inPalos Verdes.

Krista (01:15:49):
Beautiful.
And we'll put that on thewebsite as well.
Okay, great.
Thank you.

El (01:15:54):
Thank you both.
It was really nice to meet you.

Krista (01:15:56):
Nice to meet you too, Elle.
Nice to meet you, Elle.
Thanks so much, ladies.
It was a beautiful conversation.
And thank you for theopportunity

Quiana (01:16:04):
to share.
I loved it.

Krista (01:16:06):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Okay.
Bye.

Colleen (01:16:09):
Bye.
Take care.

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